August 11, 2025 • 52 mins
Brice and Bianucci discuss BYU and Utah Fall Camp, MLB, NFL news, and more!
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From college to the pros. Bryce Larson and Jordan b
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It is Bryce's bing Ucci on a Monday morning. Jordan
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good friend behind the glass. We uh, we got a
great show today. We're gonna hey, we're gonna see where
this thing goes.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We wanna wish Bryce well woke up a little under
the weather. So Martin holding it down and Martin you
my friend, first of all, just standing ovation today. We
called Martin about twenty minutes ago and we're like, hey,
Wnny was it less than that?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It was a five forty five. I didn't way go
until six.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Okay, okay, So we gave you, we gave you a
little a little time. I was on my way in
and Bryce, yeah, I got a hold of me, and
I was like, hey, I'm I'm sick. I can't talk.
And I was like, well, that's not great for radio.
So we're like, maybe is Martin Martin awake. I was like,
there's not a chance in hell Martin is awake right now.
And I say that because I wouldn't have been awake
right now unless I had to be here, like unless
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I had a job that started this early. But just
thank you Martin coming in hot this morning producing. So
it's no, it's gonna be a fun show. We're gonna
talk some byu Utah football fall camp. Obviously, a lot
of Major League Baseball stuff coming down. We're getting into
the we are into the dog days. Actually, what else?
We got some JT wistersil from last week while I
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was gone. He gives us the inside info on the
utes up on the Hill, especially the wide receiving corps
up there. I think that's kind of the big question
mark right now for Utah. Obviously, along with the rest
of the offense. We will get into a lot of
NFL uh so many preseason games to break down. So
that's what we do on this show, get into the preseason.
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A lot of injuries Actually we'll get into that. And
a milestone can you call it a milestone or a
in preseason? I don't know something so semi interesting for
a preseason football and a whole lot more so with that,
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intention intensive job you've ever had?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
That was when I was doing car parts.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I was working for Steven Wade, Ottawa and Saint George.
I was a parts runner, so ran up and down
the entire southern Utah area.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Transmissions, engines, batteries.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You're just hauling them in like I was hauling them in.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A pickup truck, standard two door pickup truck.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I hauled five thousand dollars like lithium like energy, like
car batteries like the one, not even just like the
small ones that weigh five hundred pounds. I'm talking about
like the big ones you would put in like an
actual tesla.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So all right, so you're having to forklift those baby,
How do you get them into a forklift?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I had a forklift certification that we had an electrical
and a diesel forklift. I had both certifications for that.
I was doing that running as many parts as I could.
I delivered to collision centers. So I was delivering doors
and pipes.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Did you ever have a forkliff accident? No? Never, never
was Hey, good on you sure like driving accidents?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, yeah, I had a couple accidents. I backed into
a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We've all been We've all been there. It's why you're
it's why you're behind the glass now like Martin put
you behind the glass, not the will Martin's running into stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Listen, I broke no tail lights, just down to the
couple of bumpers. That's about it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Hey, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. I was once.
I once did the graveyard shift at the UCCU Center
and norm where you have valley basketball plays, and I
would take in the US and the crew. We would
take the court apart like a jigsaw puzzle and then
put it back together and like all the bleachers in,
all the bleachers out. That was one of the I
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don't know if it's the worst job I've ever had,
but certainly the most labor one of the most labor intensive,
and also so the most at risk for a lawsuit
they like I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That sounds like at least a decent fun job.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
No, it wasn't at all you would think maybe you
would think it was. It was not fun at all. No,
like we're snapping in these grids of the of the
basketball court. I don't have any gloves on. Hell, I
didn't have any formal training. I'm lucky. I have ten
fingers today. After we're working that job. Let's get into it.
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The I was thinking about this over the weekend. I
was out, by the way, It's great to be back.
I was out all last week in Lake Tahoe. It
was fantastic. Tuned in a little bit. I'm in the
Pacific time zone, so I wasn't waking up at you know,
six to catch the show on vacation. No offense to everybody,
but great job. You and Zach held it down for
a couple of days. Ron was in there. Yeah, Price obviously.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Held it down. Friday. It was a lot of fun
with Zach.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
We got to talk to Ronald Weaver, We had to
talk to Hardy and Tim Kin about the Big twelve.
We got to talk about b YU, listen to some
BYU and Utah sounds. So that was a lot of
fun to talk on Friday. It was a great honor,
you know, getting more and more reps at at hosting shows.
So you know, got got to clogg in one hour
and do Scott show. Now I got clocked in to
do three hours for your show. Ronald held it down
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on Thursday. I was listening to that talking to Sean Walker.
That was a lot of fun to listen about BYU.
And you're right, Bryce held it down for three days
before he went on his vacation. But apparently he's got
a little bit of an extended vacation this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I don't know if I call it. Yeah, Bryce would
argue that it's a vacation with his uh he wakes
up sick today. Yeah, well, appreciate it. Well if yeah,
If you don't know, Martin is the executive producer of
The Down and Dirty with Scott Mitchell. That is ten
to eleven on our sister station, ESPN seven hundred and one,
one to two.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, one one to two on one oh three point nine.
So we're smashed in between Dan Patrick and Sean O'Connell
on ESPN seven hundred and then we're smashed in right
in between right after Colin Cowherd, we're right before Ben
Crittle and the Cougar Sports. So we sneak our way
into the into the rundown in some lineups, and we
have fun and interrupt everyone's special sports hours for one
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hour and try to tell you what we think.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And Scott has the roll of decks that is the
Golden Rolo decks. You guys have great guests.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
We try our best.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
We're working on trying to get some you know, Hall
of Famers. We're trying to get the Hall of Famers,
and we've done it in the past. So you know what,
it's it's fun to have a former NFL quarterback who
knows a lot a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Jeez, you know, make it sound so easy.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Hey man, it's an honor to have people like Ronnie Lott,
Tony Manderich, you know, Doug Peterson, and you know, potentially
we're gonna have a couple, you know, true Hall of famers.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I say it every time you host their Producers show.
I'm like, you had Ronnie Lott. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It was absolutely awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Scott obviously Scott the color commentator for Utah football. So
and then you you feel in all the time for
Cougar Sports at two o'clock on this station. So you
know both Utah football.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You know when I'm starting to get better right when
I when I first got here, I knew nothing. Now
I feel like I'm a little bit of a in.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Enticing person around.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well. I wanted to bring it up because my question
this first segment that I want to talk about and
we'll revisit it throughout the show, is if you were
buying stock long term in Utah football or BYU football,
you can choose one. You're gonna buy stock long term
in either b YU football or the Utah football program.
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Which program would would you put your money? Which put
your money?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The Cougar fans are gonna be a little shocked because
we're up north and you would expect me to choose
the Utes, But I'm gonna choose the BYU Cougars. And
I'm gonna choose the by Cougars for two reasons. One, listen,
it's it's no denying it what BYU has done in
the ni L Spending money.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Getting the A J. I.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Bondser for the basketball program is one step, but then
locking down Rider Lions, the five star quarterback to commit
to go on to two transfer to comeback. That isn't
just enough. They got McKay Hillstead from Utah State. They
legitimately got bear Bachmeyer, so that's another potential for a
future quarterback for the program. The money that BYU is
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spending and the money that they're not shy about spending,
is giving me the satisfaction to believe that they are
a program that is going to be a legit contender
for years to come. Utah is always very, very solid,
but the idea of Kyle Whittingham retiring and then passing
down the reins is a little bit of a question
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mark and reason why I don't buy into them because right.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Now we know what a Kyle Whittingham program is.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Last season was just because they had no answer for
what to do on offense. This year, they have an
idea what they want to do, bringing in their new OC,
bringing their new quarterback from New Mexico, Devin dan Piers
look pretty good in camp.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
The long term, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
BYU because the money that they're spending in nil and
because Colonie is to tak it. Klonnie to me, is
the most dad like head coach out there in college football.
He keeps everything steady, he keeps everything neutral, everything focused
on the program, everything about trying to build legitimately. In
my eyes, he's trying to recreate exactly what BYU was
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in the eighties, and I love that idea of bringing
back that philosophy enticing that even more into the program.
Rider Lions, to me, feels like he's gonna be a
legit college quarterback. They have the futures at the quarterback
you taught to me doesn't have the futures at quarterback. Yes,
they have Devin for two more years, but after that,
I don't know what's in their room. We've seen Isaac
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Wilson and we really didn't see a whole lot of success.
I've seen what BYU has in their quarterback room, and
I'm not afraid to say it. They have a legitimately
solid amount of quarterbacks that could be year in and
year out competitive at the quarterback spot. McKay Hillstead, you
got Barr Bachmeyer, and you got Ryder Lions. I mean,
those are three guys that are gonna be there for
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the next two to three years, and no question at
that leadership position, they'll revamp their wide receiver room, their
offensive line room, their defensive line room, in their corner room.
So do that as the years go on. But I'm
buying into BYU. They have a steady program going forward.
The nil money is right, their roster building is right.
I just question if Utah after Kyle Whitningham steps down,
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will they still be the same type of program. I
doubt that, And that's my issue.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's a great no, it's a great point. I will
I will disagree with you on this. This is I
admit it's so close for me on this. I lean Utah.
And here's what you're and you know, it sounds crazy
because you look at just last year in this year
for BYU and Utah and one's sinking ship and the
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other one is just skyrocketing towards success. But it's the
longer I thought about this. It's one year. We're talking
about one year where BYU football was phenomenal and Utah
football was terrible. And we're so but you dig into
it a little bit and you said it, Martin, Utah
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was bad really for I mean a couple of reasons
last year, but really one main reason they didn't have
a quarterback, and obviously the offense suffered Utah. If we'll
talk about this later in the show, but this is
an interesting stat Utah lost and I don't have it
right in front of me. They were five and seven
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last year. Five of those losses were by just one score.
So my point what I'm getting at is that I
think recency bias comes into this a lot because BYU was,
you know, on the verge of a college football playoff
Berth last year, and Utah was was it was offensively,
it was a disaster. It's one year. We're talking about
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one year now. The other aspect that you brought up,
this is where I'm hesitant to go. Utah is winning him.
We don't know how long he's gonna coach. Now. Obviously
Utah has a plan afterward. However, BYU has a guy
at head coach who it sure seems like boy he
wants to be there, and obviously BYU wants him there,
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and he's phenomenal in Klonie Satake. So as long as
he's there, it's hard to bet against BYU. Here's it's
the same though argument against BYU that it's always been.
And if you want to check in on this, hit
us up on the text line eight seven seven three
five three zero seven zero seven hundred that is eight
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seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. We're asking
the question, if you're buying long term stock, not even
in the next two or three years, even more than
that long term stock, and either BYU football or Utah football,
where you're where are you putting your money? Where are
you getting the greater return? Let us know what you think.
Here's my it's the same old argument against BYU. BYU
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is an incredible I don't know if incredible, Like I
don't know recruiting that Like, I'm not going to pretend
that I'm like a big college football recruiting guy, Like
I'm not one of those people. I got other stuff
going out. But however, you don't have to be a
big time college recruiting guy to know that BOU has
an excellent class coming in, like you said, Martin, And
so there is that BYU from now on, as long
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as they're pretty successful and are winning games under Satake,
they're going to get and they should get the best
Mormon athletes, the best LDS athletes they should get. Other
than that, it's still going to be difficult to get
great players to go to BYU consistently who are not LDS.
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That's my hesitation with BYU and sustaining that recruiting. So
that's what. So the only reason I lean Utah football
long term is last year it was one year, and well, okay,
look we'll take two years. One year didn't have a quarterback.
The year before that didn't have a quarterback, it didn't
have anybody else due to injuries. So I want to
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pump the brakes on Utah's a sinking chip. It's not.
And also, you're look another question mark, and I don't
know how you feel about it, Martin. We don't know.
As much as I like Morgan scally as a defensive
coordinator and you love him as a defensive coordinator, I
don't know what he's going to look like as a
head coach. So that's why I'm going Utah long term.
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But boy, I'm hesitant. I'm hesitant about it. So I yeah,
I get where you're coming from with the with going
to BYU.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I mean, it's just Morgan has been such a very stronghold,
you know, legit Utah guy from the very start, and
obviously Kyle trusts.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Him a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
He's been with the program for a very long time
as coach coach safeties, coach special teams. He's been obviously
the defensive coordinator since twenty sixteen. We haven't seen him
as the head coach yet. I mean, he's not in
the realm of being too young at being a head
coach either. Forty five is not at this point. Considering
we've seen younger coaches take over programs, it's not a
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bad age at all to take over a program in
the long term. I like I said, I agree with you.
The questions I only have about Utah is not defensively.
There will be stronger defensively. It's offensively. Like I love
the fact that they have Jason Beck, I love the
fact that have Devin Dan Peter, But I just I
don't trust their their prospects in their quarterback room going forward.
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Their only legit one that you can bang gun for
the next couple of years is Isaac because he tested
the transfer market and really didn't receive anything that was
you know, forefront for him to leave. Besides a bunch
of D two schools and some mid tier D one
FCS programs, he didn't get another big FBS program to
you know, bite on his potential. So right now, in
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my eyes, if you looked at by U's you know room,
at their quarterback room. You could pluck McKay hill State
out of there. You could pluck bear Bachmeyer out of there.
You could pluck you know, writer Lions if he doesn't
get enough playing time. They have legit guys in the
program that you can legitimately bank on other FBS programs
looking at saying hey we want that guy, so I
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I And to your point about Kilane not getting non
uh LDS players, I disagree with that. I mean looking
at their roster the last couple of seasons. A case
in point l J.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Morton.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
L J.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Morten is non LDS and he left you know, uh
he left New Mexican.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
No New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You u NLV to go to BYU, and minus a
couple of injuries, he's legitimately they're stacked back.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
He No, it's a it's a good point, but you're
not gonna consistently fill your roster up with great, four star,
five star non LDS athletes.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That's very true.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
But you know what I've seen in the last couple
of years with how BYU's built their rosters, their returning
missionaries have come. I'm in NFLD down the program in
successful ways. And I believe in Colonia. I just I see,
I see there's no way the rolling of the snowball
down this hill that BYU's on. I don't see anything
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getting in his way. I think it's legitimately a program
you can buy in for the next three years look back.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And it's no longer than that. I mean, I know
it's crazy to me ask you, like ten years. Yeah,
by ten years are they Are they a perennial power
in the Big twelve?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I mean the Big twelve's door is wide open because
you no longer have the staggering, you know, top tier
of the program with Texas and Oklahoma they're gone. You
no longer have the days of the nineties where it
was Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas dominating, you know, the Big
twelve where you can never crack open that top four.
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Now these days you have a revolving door a little bit. Yeah,
Arizona State right now is the is the favorite. But
you have Arizona State, you have Kansas State, you have
Iowa State, you have BYU, Utah, Texas Tech, you have Baylor,
you have TCU.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
No, it's wide open. It's you know. What's interesting about
that though, is that, first of all, we were talking
about like five to ten years down the road. Ten years.
I don't even know if the Big twelve is going
to exist. We don't even know. But the what's fascinating
about this era of college athletics, especially college football, is
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I think your year to year success is so it's
paramount to how you do the next year. That is
to say that you if BYU has a down year
this year, and let's say they go two years this
year and next year not good, they win five games
each year, let's just for the sake of argument. No,
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I'm not saying that's gonna happen. I'm saying, but in
a hypothetical situation, let's say that happens BYU. You brought
up a great point with the money. They have more
money than Utah. I think I don't have any I'm
not an expert. It just seems I think that safe
to say BYU has a lot of money. If they
go five and seven and five and seven, those donors
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are not going to be as willing to open the
wallets as they have been after last season. Last season,
is there's a reason BYU is thrown around a lot
of money. It's because they've been they were successful last year.
Boosters are excited. Boosters with the means are excited. So
in this era of college football, it could depend on
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it could go year to year.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But also what I again to fight back or what
I also I saw from BYU especially, let's take these
last two months. Obviously, with the departure of j Greslav,
going from BYU to Tulane. What I've seen on social
media by BYU fans is they're willing to accept a
falter of a year this year. They're willing to accept
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the idea that there was a pros there's a pot
supposed to possibly win eleven games, and they've accepted that
they could possibly only win eight games. And they don't
hate the idea of going to Orlando, Florida to play
in the pop Tar Bowl. They don't hate the idea
if they had to go back to Texas to play
in the Almo Bowl this year. They are accepting the
idea that this year is a bit of a step down,
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And let me finish our banking on again. What I
keep hitting the nail on the head is they're banking
on the future of the quarterback room and Kloni in
the recruiting process to make up for which is a
great point by you as saying year by year. But
I think BYU boosters and the money and the fans
are accepting a one bad year, and we'll put the
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pressure on client and say, listen.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
We gave you one year.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You need to repeat what happened last season to come
back again for us to believe in it.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
No, no, I agree, I know absolutely. I think this
year you're getting a mull again. Absolutely, And look and
if you're BYU, if you're klown satake, you deserve one.
This year. You don't have your starting quarterback, you know,
got kicked out of school a month before the season started.
So I absolutely you're right. That's why I said. That's
why I said two years. If you go hell fine,
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we'll doree three years. If BAU is losing, for sake
of argument, they're winning five games the next three years,
that snow Just like you mentioned, success snowballs, failure, snowballs,
under achievement snowballs, even more so in this era of
nil and instant gratification. And we've seen that with Utah
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in a sense like think out dominant and how great
Utah football has been the past fifteen ten years, ten
to fifteen years, and they've had two bad seasons. And
I would argue a lot of that had to do
with bad luck as far as injuries and having a quarterback. Now,
not all of it. I don't think. I do not
think they prepared well. They did not have a backup
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plan for if their quarterback went down, which that's on
the coaching staff and everybody up there. But have the
Utah boosters. It's not that the sky is falling, but
the enthusiasm. It's taken a hit. It's taken a hit,
and you just in this era of hey we can
go get guys out of the portal. We should be
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right there every year. Man, you do not have a
long leash as a head coach any year or anymore
in college football. If you're just joining us Jordan Bianucci
alongside Martin Kelly, Bryce, hopefully we'd be back tomorrow. He's
under the weather today. You're listening to Bryce and Bianucci
on one of three nine ninety eight three ESPN the Fan.
We're asking the question, long term, if you had to
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buy stock, are you buying it? In BYU football or
Utah football. Hit us up on the text line eight
seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
We're going to.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Revisit this throughout the show, but coming up next we
will hear from some b White, maybe a little Koloni
satake sound, some Utah fall camp sound, a lot more
to get to some Major League baseball, and then obviously
our NFL Blitz coming up at seven forty five or
so this morning. We'll take a break, come back after
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Speaker 3 (25:42):
It is Bryson Bianucci on a Monday morning, Bryce under
the Weather, Jordan Bianucci holding it down with Martin Kelly
here in our downtown Salt Lake City Studios. We hope
Bryce will be back tomorrow. Bryce drink a lot. What
do you do when you have a sore thrive? Go
a lot of tea, A lot of a lot of tea.
(26:02):
Put the honey in the tea. Hot shower. That always helps.
Uh yeah, what what is your advice? Sore throats?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So it doesn't show because I'm such a giant and
my full names as irish as you could probably get.
But I'm half Hispanic, so being half Hispanic and being
that my Hispanic mother gave me the best remedies when
I was a kid. Man, I just made chicken soup
and I probably put You know, you're not supposed to
eat a lot of garlic because you know your significant
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other doesn't want to kiss the garlic he lips. But
I pound, I pound hard on the garlic. Man, I
pound hard on garlic onions. I throw that in there
and take some night quill, and you know what takes
some hot showers.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
I learned that as a remedy.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And about two days later, man, I'm feeling as fresh
as as fresh as the daisy. So you know, I
hit harder with the garlic and the onions and the soup,
chicken soup. You know, a little bit of hot showers,
some night quill, and you know some good and wake
up fresh.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
That's right. Hey, I'm with you. I it's we are
getting into during the springtime. Here's the thing during basketball
and spring. That's when Bryce and I are busiest because
Bryce will do Utah Valley basketball, I'll do Utah Valley baseball,
and in fact, Bryce will do the color for baseball.
So he's doing a ton. So we're doing three hours
in the morning and then we're doing at in the evening,
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three maybe four more hours of talking. You know, baseball.
It's you're just talking for three straight hours, if not
more so. Yeah, a lot of a lot of throat
coat tea and honey. Not stay away from the spicy foods.
That's that's one way I would go Otherwise. Yeah, I mean,
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you pretty much knelt it. Have you ever used Oh?
But the reason I brought that up was we have
we have high school football this Friday night on the station.
We're going down to Provo tune in seven o'clock kickoff.
I believe that's the way fun high school football is
back then. I'm gonna be honest, high school football starts
a little too damn early for me. It's August eleventh.
It's it's it's by the way your time in temp On.
(28:08):
It's seven point thirty three on a Monday, sixty four
degrees in downtown Salt Lake, city. We're going to get
up to a high of eighty nine. Martin, I didn't
know if you knew that. I'm a meteorologist. A little
low with sixty four today, a little low pressure system
coming in from the south. There's not I don't really
even know what that means.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Your West coast knowledge and voice are a very perfect
combination for you to be a meter outlet.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
That's right. Wait, we got a little smoke coming in
from the east from the fire that's going to burn
down the rest of the state. So just keep aware
of that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
So I'm praying out for those people out Toilla. Man,
that fire. I saw it on the news last night.
It looks it looks a bit scary, man, it is.
There was there's a fire down in Richo Stansbury area
now in Tuila, like the mountains.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Are catching on fire.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I drove past it because I was in Reno. I
was in Lake Tahoe and so I was coming east
on I eighty yeah, two days ago, Saturday, and it
was the hill the hills were black, man, it was
it was spooky. So yeah, be careful out there, uh,
Bryce and Martin holl Urchiebrys Jordan and Martin holding it
down on a Monday. We're gonna get to some Kalani
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Satake sound in this uh segment. If I'm pausing there,
it's because Martin, I have my four computer screens in
front of me right now, and our friend Ronald Weaver
the third is on Team Viewer and Mike. It makes
it look like or somebody's on Team Viewer. It makes
it look like the computer's haunted. The mouse is moving
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by itself, and it's freaking me out over here, you
and me both.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Man. He pulls that magic trick whenever he wants.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, I'm on the computer, and all of a sudden,
the mouse just starts going, the curser starts moving. All
these different places, these freaking buildings haunted, all right, Uh.
Kalani Satake spoke to the media on Friday the the
We don't play a lot of this sound on the
show because a lot of it is not super interesting,
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and it's a lot of cliches. It's a lot of
non answers because coaches don't want to give up a
lot of information fall camp. And then if you're talking
to Utah players here, Kyle Whittingham, you're getting great sound.
Sound from the jugs machine, which was just phenomenal placement
of let's interview everyone by the giant jugs and machine
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over it right, Utah, So let's get into it. We're
gonna hear just a couple of minutes of Kalani Satake
talking about Bui U's quarterbacks and a little more here
it is.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Practice today really good. We had some live work with
the ones, the twos and the threes and situational work,
so a lot of good things. First time in full pads,
so that it was good to get some tackling in,
get some tackling drills, all that stuff, so it pleases
the way the team's working. Obviously, we had some mistakes.
Just make sure those mistakes don't show up tomorrow tomorrow
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and show up in the next practice. That's going to
be the goal. And I don't expect us to not
make any mistakes in practice, but I expect us to
fix them and make sure that they're not occurring every time.
So but I think that that's a given when you
have what our defense is doing. We had a couple
of false starts and you know, had had the ball
on the ground and a bat snap. But other than that,
I think those are very fixable items. You got to
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go see how that we did. Everybody doing their one eleventh.
So what questions do you guys have for me?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Is there a quarterback that's starting to separate themselves at all?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Now?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
They're all playing at a high level, all of them,
and so that's a good sign. Makes it more difficult.
We asked them to make it difficult for us, and
so they're doing that, and we just got to keep
giving them a situational work like today and so my work,
even though the quarterbacks aren't live kind of seeing them
the decision making process for them. Are they making great
decisions and really difficult times?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Golinding with the situation with Polkai, are you concerned now
what you're running back dead?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
No?
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I mean we've had a deep group for a while now.
We're still waiting on what happens with full Ale, with
Hinkley and so, but I feel really confident with the
rest of the guys obviously, uh, the entire group. And
we removed Preston Rex over there and he's getting some
good work and Seun is doing great there, so I
think we'll be in a good spot.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So h.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Colonnie give us something. I'm begging. I'm begging these coaches,
not just called Kyle, give us something, please, anything, every listen.
I get it, that's not their job. I'm I'm joking
around here, but but we need I need I need something, Martin.
I need some sort some anything, some sort of sort
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of interesting. It's or not everyone's playing at a high
level at quarterback. I guess that could be true. Maybe.
I mean, I'm not accusing you of lying. That's good
news for b y U if that's. If that's the case,
I am so ready for actual games that I'm losing
my mind here because at least when then when we
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talk to these guys, we can be like, well, here's
what we saw on the field. You know what I mean.
You have a you have a frame of reference. It's
just so anyway, that was Clonie Satalki on Friday giving
us the rest of the if you want to get
into like the minutial, we're just talking quarterbacks right now
in this segment, but if you want to get into
he'll give you a better info on other position groups.
(33:23):
But obviously they're not going to tell you who's who's
playing better than you know who's playing the best out
of those quarterbacks. They don't want to give anybody or
Portland State or whoever. I guess a leg up. I don't.
I don't know if I totally buy that strategy, but uh,
it is what it is. That's fine right now. I
think it's just from everything I've read, it seems like
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McKay Hillstead's the guy right now. But what was interesting
is this was in I believe the Tribune on Saturday
or yesterday. Our friend Kevin Reynolds wrote a piece and
he's to and I'll have gosh darn it, I think
it was Fessei Satake he spoke to. And it's read
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between the lines of this article about ba's quarterbacks, and
guess who the number two guy is? Number ones. I
would probably go Hillstead based on the quotes in this
article in the Tribune, and check it out. Number two
doesn't sound like it's Borgae. It sounds like it's the
freshman Bear Bachmeyer. Does that surprise you, Martin?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Not really to even add to that.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
On Friday with Coudar Sports, we listened to a part
by Jerem Jordan when he was doing his show earlier
in the day, and he made the case.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
And I listened to it.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
He made the case, listen if it's close, if it's
close between McKay Hillstad and bar Bachmeyer, he'd rather start
bart Bachmeyer and have McKay Hillstad back up Bear for
the rest of the season. Now, I don't know if
that's also based on the fact that Bear's brother, Tiger
is doing pretty well in the in the in the
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wide receiver room. Now, obviously there's Chase Roberts. Chases obviously
the number one on this team. There's no question about that.
You're not taking that spot away from him. But you
know you have all the wide receiver two in three
spots open right now. You have Jojo Phillips, you have
Parker Kingston, and you have Tiger Bachmayert Can being for
that spot. Now we're talking mostly quarterbacks. To go back
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to that, I agree, I think it's McKay hill Staid.
I think it's Barry Bachmart. I don't think Trayson is
completely out of it, but I don't think Trason is
the guy that they need at that spot because what
I've seen with Trayson, he reminds me a lot of
Keys and Slovas here reminds me a lot of what
you know, Sorry, I just forgot his name. He's the
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transfer to t Lane RESLV. He reminds me a lot
of that, you know, the standard pocket quarterback, and he's
gonna make all those decisions, but doesn't have the athletic
ability to escape the pocket. I think what b Yu
wants to do is get back to that Zach Wilson,
you know, style of escaping the pocket, extending plays. I
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don't think Aaron Roderick hates that at all from his quarterbacks.
I believe he actually likes that more from his quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I think McKay hill said legitimately has the best arm
out of the talent. You know, he can throw the
forty five fifty yard bombs, he can connect with the
long plays.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
But I think Bear.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Actually makes a lot of great decisions. I think him
in the sense of running an option offense, making the
twenty twenty five yard throws, making the quick reads, doing
that running style is a real, real advantage to him.
So I really do think it comes down to those
two quarterbacks, And like Jerem Jordan said, I have to agree.
If it's really really close Bete McKay and Bear, I
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would start bear Well. I mean, you have nothing to
lose right now. Borgay is not your guy for the future.
He's a really fun quarterback. McKay hill said, yes, you
brought him in from Utah State. You convince him to
leave the Aggies to come down to Provo. You know what,
maybe it's just not in the cards and he transfers
out the season, but he'll get play in time. I
one hundred percent believe that, but I agree with it.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
If you're gonna, if.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
You're gonna swallow a mulligan type season, why not a
star bear back, myyer, You stole him from Stanford.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
You got his brother too. You might as well roll
the dice and see if that works.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Right now, I don't think BYU has anything to lose
if they pick between one of those two quarterbacks, because
they know this season is not eleven or twelve win season.
They can accept an eight win season with a little
bit of a revolving door quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah well, if yeah, no, I'm with you. If it's close,
you're going Bachmeyer because he has the longer ups the
more upside going into the future. McKay hillstead not your
quarterback of the future. The reason you would go with
Hillstead is if he's definitely the better quarterback and that
he can and he can keep you in games to
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a greater degree than Bachmeyer can. That is the reason
you go. Hill said, if you go with hill Stead,
you're going. Okay, this guy by far gives us the
best chance to win this year. And that's tempting because
if your b yu your boy, you look good everywhere
else as far as position groups go. So you that's
why there were so expectations where sky high this year
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with a with redslov coming back. So no, I agree,
if you if it's close, Bachmeyer's your your guy because
then you set yourself up for next season and then
who knows what happens with with Ryder Lions, the highly
touted quarterback recruit coming in from California, And I think
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two years is he is it?
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, it'll be it'll be twenty twenty seven. I think
it will be summer year. Yeah, well I believe you're right.
So yeah, so absolutely I would go with with with
back Meer. You know what I kept, what's I'm in
NFL mode when I'm thinking football and if your BYU
your wish this was the NFL in the sense that
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you're like, you know, if we can get Bachmeyer some
snaps and show what he can do, and the Lions
comes in and if he's ready to go, yeah we
can trade Bachmeyer.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
We can get a whole lot of draft picks.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
You never know, maybe the NFL does buy college football
and turns it into their their Triple A system.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, I'm telling you, man, Yeah we can do it. Man,
we could deal him. We get a bundle.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
But to go back to your original point in saying
Kilane doesn't give us a whole lot, I think he
gave us a whole lot with saying that you know
he wants the quarterbacks to compete. I think that's not
a bad thing at all when you have a quote,
when you have a coach that says, hey, listen, I
want him to make it hard on us to make
a decision. And I think at the end of the day,
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that's what you want to hear from your coach. That's
why I said he's such a dad of a head coach.
He won't give you absolutely every answer, but he's going
to give you little tibbets. He's going to give you
a little little signs of where he's going with his decision,
and I think he's absolutely doing it the right way.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I most coaches, when losing your starting quarterback eight weeks
prior to fall camp would be acting like this. Maybe
they would be a little bit, you know, tentative, maybe
they would be a little hesitant to talk about anything
when it comes to quarterbacks. Golanie's giving you straight up like, hey,
they're making it hard, and we want it. We want
them to make it hard.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
But I don't know if he is good. And I'm
not faulting him for this because I'm this is what
all coaches do. I don't know if he's given it
to us straight up. For all we know, one of
them looks like garbage and the other two are fantastic.
He's not gonna say that, he's not gonna and that's fine,
Like again, I get it, but but I haven't been
at practice to see. I'll take his word for it
because I'm like, you know, what else are you gonna do?
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And again, I'm not bashing on coaches for doing this.
I'm just kind of making fun of it and laughing
about it because we're all of course, you know what
I mean, Like we don't. We don't know, And no,
am I gonna trust the head coach of a college
football team? Hell no, of course I'm not gonna like
there's no reason for him to be honest with the
media at this point. And the whole read If you're
just joining us, the reason we're talking about this is
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we're just ready for games to start so we can
actually see these guys and see what they look like
on the field. We're gonna get into the NFL Blitz
coming up next. We're still talking to college football in
this segment. Utah's another one we keep hearing about, and
we're gonna hear from j. T. Wister still by the way,
our Utah insider later on in the show, but we
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don't get much from Kyle as far as the wide
receiver room goes. We did get something interesting. I was
reading this. This was on KSL from our friend Josh Furlong.
He asked, I think it was for long. He asked
with basically, what do you like about the new Jason
Beck offense? What is something that stands out? And he
said that the big play ability of this offense stands out.
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That's huge if you're Utah because that has not been
there obviously the past couple of years. And that's what look.
You bring in a guy like Devin dan Pierre. He's electric,
he's athletic, h has has an arm, can run your
biggest My biggest question mark has been the wide receiver room.
I don't think that's a real tough one if you're
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if you're Utah, and now what are we getting out
of Utah, Martin? We're getting on the wide receivers look
pretty good. They're actually stepping up some guys we didn't know.
Is that true. I'll take their word for it, like
you sure hope so if you're Utah, because that's the
Achilles heel I feel like on this team right now.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
We'll listen to some Kyle Winningham's sound later in the show.
I got a chance to listen to some of it
on Friday, and he said some of the same things
about the wide receiver room. And I trust what Kyle
has to say. Being around him is as little as
I have been. I'm going to take his word on it,
and I agree with you like I like I said,
I like the fact that Klanni keeps us straight. But
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you know, to add to what you say about coaches
not giving you everything they want, that's the kind of
I believe the Dan Asi and college Well, these days,
coaches are gonna keep their cards real close to their chest.
They're not gonna reveal anything that they have that they.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Want you to know.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
And you know what, Kyle and Klinia have been in
this business for a long time. They worked with each
other on the same staff, so they know, you know,
the same style. I think Colanie picked that up from Kyle.
You know, just kind of keep it straight, leveled, and
and give him a solid answer.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
The wide receiver room is a question mark for Utah.
You gotta think, you know, is that big playability gonna
come out this season. You mentioned Jason Beck in his
high flying offense with Devin Dan Peter One agree.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
With all those takes.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
I think Kyle is when responding to the media, he's
keeping it a straight shot. And I don't think that's
a bad idea at all to kind of keep the
cards hold, because minus what BYU is gonna have to
do is Portland State, even if they told Portland State
what they're gonna do at quarterback, Utah keeping their wide
receiver room quiet is a good thing because they got
to go up against UCLA. Ucla is not a legit
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powerhouse to win the Big Ten, but they're not gonna
be a dog walk team for Utah either. And they're
going back to the Rose Bowl. I mentioned this on Friday.
They're going back to a place. They're zero to two
and they're two attempts to win the Rose Bowl place.
It's not a very fun place for Utah fans to
go in that situation. So, you know, even playing a
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u c l A team with a transfer from you
got nicol el Man Lavea from Tennessee to come into
the program, you know what. Like, honestly, that Rose Bowl
venue is a bit of a thorn and the Utah's side.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
So I don't I don't actually.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Hate at all that Kyle Winningham keeps his cards to
himself and it's keeping UCLA in the dark when it
comes to their wide receiver room and what they're expecting.
We'll see what happens that that first night when they're
playing against the u c l A. It's gonna be
a fun game. We'll see what offense they come out with.
But I don't just I don't totally hate. Uh Kyle
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woodhean keeping his cards close to himself.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, I mean Utah again, we're not really I'm not
faulting head coaches for you know, playing it close to
the vest I get it. I'm just saying it's boring,
uh for us from a selfish stand sure, sure, yeah,
I mean, look, you're going back to the Rose Bowl.
But it's it's it's the Rose Bowl versus UCLA. It's
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not the Rose Bowl and be you know, if you
look at the record, it's interesting you say that because
Utah has played well against UCLA in in Pasadena. They
haven't been perfect. Like Utah lost their last game at UCLA,
which was three years ago, uh forty thirty two, So
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they've they played well. But yeah, I mean, I am
I've played great. That is not going to be a
difficult road environment for for Utah. I think they are
going to be a lot of Utah fans in Pasadena.
So but and I'm just saying, I don't know who's
gonna win that game. I don't know. Here's the thing
that here's my question to you, Martin. You have if
you have tickets, you're you're not a You're not a
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diehard BYU. Finger's a football fan. You have tickets to
b YU, which is like a six o'clock start something
like that, and then UTA's an eight o'clock start. But
BYU's playing Portland State? What do you what do you
get you given those tickets away?
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Absolutely listen, I have a chance. Listen.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
This is you're you and I are old enough to
know who Alan Jackson is man the granddaddy of them.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I get that.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
I I don't know if you know. I don't think
I answer asked the question properly. Are you giving up
the b YU tickets to see them live play Portland
State to just take it easy at home?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yes, okay, absolutely listen. I get that point of the question.
I went a little too far with my answer, but yes,
I'm giving out the tickets to watch the to watch
the I'm just watching it because they're playing at the venue.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
I listen.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I don't care what happens in the game. I mean, yeah,
I'm watching that game because it's it's the Rose Bowl. Man, Like,
there's not another venue like that in college football.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
No, I'm with you, and it's less to me about
like I love, I want to go to that game.
I'd love to go to the rest. But even like
just that, it's I think that'll be a good game.
I think U Ucla obviously it's the most intriguing game.
I think I might be with you. It might be
just like, yeah, going and I have I have, I could,
I could go to the BYU game.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
I mean week one.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
You will open up the season with Texas and Ohio
State at one o'clock for some reason, at ten o'clock
in the morning, and you end the night with watching
Utah and UCLA.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, maybe maybe watching BAU at home that night, maybe watching.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Ba Hey, listen, Portland State. It's a very fun Division
one FCS program. They're not a bad team at all.
I know them because they play in the UAC. They
play against Utah texts, I've seen them a couple of times.
They're a fun team. But BYU is going to roll them,
just like they did with Southern Utah Southern Illinois last year.
I want to watch a legitimately competitive game, regardless of
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the result. Utah Ucla. That's a competitive game.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
It is, and the only reason like this wouldn't even
be a question unless and we're talking, we're not talking.
If you're a BYU fan and you have tickets, even
if it's a Portland State, you're probably enjoying just getting
out of the stadium. I get that we're talking. If
you're just a football fan, yeah, and you have tickets,
you're not You're not parties in here.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
No, I have no problem passing on my tickets.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
The only reason I would ever even consider going to
the Portland State game and then missing part of that
Utah game is it's the quarterback situation. It's like, what
are we going to see?
Speaker 4 (48:36):
I bet you in a scenario if the game gets
really out of hand by the third quarter, I think
we'll see all three quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Do you really?
Speaker 4 (48:46):
I think we'll see all three quarterbacks. I think McKay
will be the one to start, and if it's thirty
five and nothing by halftime, they'll throw in probably four
gay and throw them in there for a while. And
if he has it at forty nine to nothing, we
will see Bear Blackmeyer probably play the whole entire four quarter.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I think you could maybe maybe see two if it's
a huge blout, But even then I would if it
depends how they feel about the quarterback going into that
game if they feel like, Okay, Hillstead is our guy,
there's not. We're not wavering on the like we're not.
It's not forty nine to fifty one percent. Like, No,
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he's our guy. I think you're gonna see him play,
and I think he should play the majority of the
game because he's still the more that dude needs reps.
He needs reps. Maybe I'm I'm maybe I'm wrong, but
I would boy, it's a that's a great question, Martin,
because yeah, if you're up big, do you give a
guy another because I if it's reds soft, yeah you
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take him out, but you know it's not.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Also, to add to that, I think the game BYU
fans really want to see Bear Blackmeyer come out is
the next week. Portland State is Portland State. But if
you're going I think they're going to Stanford. I have
to look at the schedule. If they're having Stanford here,
that's the game that BYU fans want to see Bear
come out because they want to see them rub it
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into the Stanford Cardinals' faces, see hey, we stole your
quarterback and your wide receiver and look at him in
our colors, with our background, with our stadium because BYU
Stadium is really beautiful with that background, and you can't
ask for much more than that. But the whole point
is that's the game. I think BYU fans want to
see him come out. They will see him come out
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of Portland State, but the big game in the first
three games if you can if because it's to me,
it's like non preseason games, it's just walk through games
that they have at the beginning of the season. They
want to see him in the Stanford game. They want
to see him fling the football against his old teammates.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, because he's only there during spring and the ten
Stanford fans that are going to make the trip aren't
going to give a damn. They didn't even know who
he was in the first place. And also they're Stanford.
They have other things on their that's true.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
They got to worry about their academic.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well, yeah, football, Like there's a there is a We
could talk about this on the show all the time
if we want to get in really get into the
things that people want to talk about Stanford football. There
is a contingent of Stanford alumni that care about football,
and they're pissed off, frankly about how it's going. But
there there's a reason there are ten thousand people showing
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up to Stanford games right now. Now. If they're good,
if they can resurrect that program, it'll be more. But
they you know, not a lot of people care. And
you know, I get it.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
We's got to see what Andrew luck can do. He's
a very smart man. Let's see what NFL strings he
can pull to pull that program back.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
It's I'm with you. That really will be interesting. The
college football is better when Stanford's good. College football is
better when Stanford is good. Let's take a break right
here on Bryce and ban Ucci. By the way, hit
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Speaker 4 (00:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We wanna wish Bryce well woke up a little under
the weather. So Martin holding it down and Martin you
my friend, first of all, just standing ovation today. We
called Martin about twenty minutes ago and we're like, hey,
Wnny was it less than that?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It was a five forty five. I didn't way go
until six.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Okay, okay, So we gave you, we gave you a
little a little time. I was on my way in
and Bryce, yeah, I got a hold of me, and
I was like, hey, I'm I'm sick. I can't talk.
And I was like, well, that's not great for radio.
So we're like, maybe is Martin Martin awake. I was like,
there's not a chance in hell Martin is awake right now.
And I say that because I wouldn't have been awake
right now unless I had to be here, like unless
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I had a job that started this early. But just
thank you Martin coming in hot this morning producing. So
it's no, it's gonna be a fun show. We're gonna
talk some byu Utah football fall camp. Obviously, a lot
of Major League Baseball stuff coming down. We're getting into
the we are into the dog days. Actually, what else?
We got some JT wistersil from last week while I
(01:53):
was gone. He gives us the inside info on the
utes up on the Hill, especially the wide receiving corps
up there. I think that's kind of the big question
mark right now for Utah. Obviously, along with the rest
of the offense. We will get into a lot of
NFL uh so many preseason games to break down. So
that's what we do on this show, get into the preseason.
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A lot of injuries Actually we'll get into that. And
a milestone can you call it a milestone or a
in preseason? I don't know something so semi interesting for
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intention intensive job you've ever had?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
That was when I was doing car parts.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I was working for Steven Wade, Ottawa and Saint George.
I was a parts runner, so ran up and down
the entire southern Utah area.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Transmissions, engines, batteries.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
You're just hauling them in like I was hauling them in.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
A pickup truck, standard two door pickup truck.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I hauled five thousand dollars like lithium like energy, like
car batteries like the one, not even just like the
small ones that weigh five hundred pounds. I'm talking about
like the big ones you would put in like an
actual tesla.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So all right, so you're having to forklift those baby,
How do you get them into a forklift?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I had a forklift certification that we had an electrical
and a diesel forklift. I had both certifications for that.
I was doing that running as many parts as I could.
I delivered to collision centers. So I was delivering doors
and pipes.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Did you ever have a forkliff accident? No? Never, never
was Hey, good on you sure like driving accidents?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, yeah, I had a couple accidents. I backed into
a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
We've all been We've all been there. It's why you're
it's why you're behind the glass now like Martin put
you behind the glass, not the will Martin's running into stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Listen, I broke no tail lights, just down to the
couple of bumpers. That's about it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Hey, that's gonna happen. That's gonna happen. I was once.
I once did the graveyard shift at the UCCU Center
and norm where you have valley basketball plays, and I
would take in the US and the crew. We would
take the court apart like a jigsaw puzzle and then
put it back together and like all the bleachers in,
all the bleachers out. That was one of the I
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don't know if it's the worst job I've ever had,
but certainly the most labor one of the most labor intensive,
and also so the most at risk for a lawsuit
they like I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
That sounds like at least a decent fun job.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
No, it wasn't at all you would think maybe you
would think it was. It was not fun at all. No,
like we're snapping in these grids of the of the
basketball court. I don't have any gloves on. Hell, I
didn't have any formal training. I'm lucky. I have ten
fingers today. After we're working that job. Let's get into it.
(06:28):
The I was thinking about this over the weekend. I
was out, by the way, It's great to be back.
I was out all last week in Lake Tahoe. It
was fantastic. Tuned in a little bit. I'm in the
Pacific time zone, so I wasn't waking up at you know,
six to catch the show on vacation. No offense to everybody,
but great job. You and Zach held it down for
a couple of days. Ron was in there. Yeah, Price obviously.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Held it down. Friday. It was a lot of fun
with Zach.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
We got to talk to Ronald Weaver, We had to
talk to Hardy and Tim Kin about the Big twelve.
We got to talk about b YU, listen to some
BYU and Utah sounds. So that was a lot of
fun to talk on Friday. It was a great honor,
you know, getting more and more reps at at hosting shows.
So you know, got got to clogg in one hour
and do Scott show. Now I got clocked in to
do three hours for your show. Ronald held it down
(07:15):
on Thursday. I was listening to that talking to Sean Walker.
That was a lot of fun to listen about BYU.
And you're right, Bryce held it down for three days
before he went on his vacation. But apparently he's got
a little bit of an extended vacation this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I don't know if I call it. Yeah, Bryce would
argue that it's a vacation with his uh he wakes
up sick today. Yeah, well, appreciate it. Well if yeah,
If you don't know, Martin is the executive producer of
The Down and Dirty with Scott Mitchell. That is ten
to eleven on our sister station, ESPN seven hundred and one,
one to two.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, one one to two on one oh three point nine.
So we're smashed in between Dan Patrick and Sean O'Connell
on ESPN seven hundred and then we're smashed in right
in between right after Colin Cowherd, we're right before Ben
Crittle and the Cougar Sports. So we sneak our way
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have fun and interrupt everyone's special sports hours for one
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hour and try to tell you what we think.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And Scott has the roll of decks that is the
Golden Rolo decks. You guys have great guests.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
We try our best.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
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Speaker 4 (08:15):
We're working on trying to get some you know, Hall
of Famers. We're trying to get the Hall of Famers,
and we've done it in the past. So you know what,
it's it's fun to have a former NFL quarterback who
knows a lot a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Jeez, you know, make it sound so easy.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Hey man, it's an honor to have people like Ronnie Lott,
Tony Manderich, you know, Doug Peterson, and you know, potentially
we're gonna have a couple, you know, true Hall of famers.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I say it every time you host their Producers show.
I'm like, you had Ronnie Lott. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
It was absolutely awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Scott obviously Scott the color commentator for Utah football. So
and then you you feel in all the time for
Cougar Sports at two o'clock on this station. So you
know both Utah football.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You know when I'm starting to get better right when
I when I first got here, I knew nothing. Now
I feel like I'm a little bit of a in.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Enticing person around.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Well. I wanted to bring it up because my question
this first segment that I want to talk about and
we'll revisit it throughout the show, is if you were
buying stock long term in Utah football or BYU football,
you can choose one. You're gonna buy stock long term
in either b YU football or the Utah football program.
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Which program would would you put your money? Which put
your money?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The Cougar fans are gonna be a little shocked because
we're up north and you would expect me to choose
the Utes, But I'm gonna choose the BYU Cougars. And
I'm gonna choose the by Cougars for two reasons. One, listen,
it's it's no denying it what BYU has done in
the ni L Spending money.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Getting the A J. I.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Bondser for the basketball program is one step, but then
locking down Rider Lions, the five star quarterback to commit
to go on to two transfer to comeback. That isn't
just enough. They got McKay Hillstead from Utah State. They
legitimately got bear Bachmeyer, so that's another potential for a
future quarterback for the program. The money that BYU is
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spending and the money that they're not shy about spending,
is giving me the satisfaction to believe that they are
a program that is going to be a legit contender
for years to come. Utah is always very, very solid,
but the idea of Kyle Whittingham retiring and then passing
down the reins is a little bit of a question
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mark and reason why I don't buy into them because right.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Now we know what a Kyle Whittingham program is.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Last season was just because they had no answer for
what to do on offense. This year, they have an
idea what they want to do, bringing in their new OC,
bringing their new quarterback from New Mexico, Devin dan Piers
look pretty good in camp.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
The long term, I'm going.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
BYU because the money that they're spending in nil and
because Colonie is to tak it. Klonnie to me, is
the most dad like head coach out there in college football.
He keeps everything steady, he keeps everything neutral, everything focused
on the program, everything about trying to build legitimately. In
my eyes, he's trying to recreate exactly what BYU was
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in the eighties, and I love that idea of bringing
back that philosophy enticing that even more into the program.
Rider Lions, to me, feels like he's gonna be a
legit college quarterback. They have the futures at the quarterback
you taught to me doesn't have the futures at quarterback. Yes,
they have Devin for two more years, but after that,
I don't know what's in their room. We've seen Isaac
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Wilson and we really didn't see a whole lot of success.
I've seen what BYU has in their quarterback room, and
I'm not afraid to say it. They have a legitimately
solid amount of quarterbacks that could be year in and
year out competitive at the quarterback spot. McKay Hillstead, you
got Barr Bachmeyer, and you got Ryder Lions. I mean,
those are three guys that are gonna be there for
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the next two to three years, and no question at
that leadership position, they'll revamp their wide receiver room, their
offensive line room, their defensive line room, in their corner room.
So do that as the years go on. But I'm
buying into BYU. They have a steady program going forward.
The nil money is right, their roster building is right.
I just question if Utah after Kyle Whitningham steps down,
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will they still be the same type of program. I
doubt that, And that's my issue.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's a great no, it's a great point. I will
I will disagree with you on this. This is I
admit it's so close for me on this. I lean Utah.
And here's what you're and you know, it sounds crazy
because you look at just last year in this year
for BYU and Utah and one's sinking ship and the
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other one is just skyrocketing towards success. But it's the
longer I thought about this. It's one year. We're talking
about one year where BYU football was phenomenal and Utah
football was terrible. And we're so but you dig into
it a little bit and you said it, Martin, Utah
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was bad really for I mean a couple of reasons
last year, but really one main reason they didn't have
a quarterback, and obviously the offense suffered Utah. If we'll
talk about this later in the show, but this is
an interesting stat Utah lost and I don't have it
right in front of me. They were five and seven
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last year. Five of those losses were by just one score.
So my point what I'm getting at is that I
think recency bias comes into this a lot because BYU was,
you know, on the verge of a college football playoff
Berth last year, and Utah was was it was offensively,
it was a disaster. It's one year. We're talking about
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one year now. The other aspect that you brought up,
this is where I'm hesitant to go. Utah is winning him.
We don't know how long he's gonna coach. Now. Obviously
Utah has a plan afterward. However, BYU has a guy
at head coach who it sure seems like boy he
wants to be there, and obviously BYU wants him there,
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and he's phenomenal in Klonie Satake. So as long as
he's there, it's hard to bet against BYU. Here's it's
the same though argument against BYU that it's always been.
And if you want to check in on this, hit
us up on the text line eight seven seven three
five three zero seven zero seven hundred that is eight
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seven seven three five three zero seven hundred. We're asking
the question, if you're buying long term stock, not even
in the next two or three years, even more than
that long term stock, and either BYU football or Utah football,
where you're where are you putting your money? Where are
you getting the greater return? Let us know what you think.
Here's my it's the same old argument against BYU. BYU
(15:03):
is an incredible I don't know if incredible, Like I
don't know recruiting that Like, I'm not going to pretend
that I'm like a big college football recruiting guy, Like
I'm not one of those people. I got other stuff
going out. But however, you don't have to be a
big time college recruiting guy to know that BOU has
an excellent class coming in, like you said, Martin, And
so there is that BYU from now on, as long
(15:27):
as they're pretty successful and are winning games under Satake,
they're going to get and they should get the best
Mormon athletes, the best LDS athletes they should get. Other
than that, it's still going to be difficult to get
great players to go to BYU consistently who are not LDS.
(15:47):
That's my hesitation with BYU and sustaining that recruiting. So
that's what. So the only reason I lean Utah football
long term is last year it was one year, and well, okay,
look we'll take two years. One year didn't have a quarterback.
The year before that didn't have a quarterback, it didn't
have anybody else due to injuries. So I want to
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pump the brakes on Utah's a sinking chip. It's not.
And also, you're look another question mark, and I don't
know how you feel about it, Martin. We don't know.
As much as I like Morgan scally as a defensive
coordinator and you love him as a defensive coordinator, I
don't know what he's going to look like as a
head coach. So that's why I'm going Utah long term.
(16:32):
But boy, I'm hesitant. I'm hesitant about it. So I yeah,
I get where you're coming from with the with going
to BYU.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I mean, it's just Morgan has been such a very stronghold,
you know, legit Utah guy from the very start, and
obviously Kyle trusts.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Him a lot.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
He's been with the program for a very long time
as coach coach safeties, coach special teams. He's been obviously
the defensive coordinator since twenty sixteen. We haven't seen him
as the head coach yet. I mean, he's not in
the realm of being too young at being a head
coach either. Forty five is not at this point. Considering
we've seen younger coaches take over programs, it's not a
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bad age at all to take over a program in
the long term. I like I said, I agree with you.
The questions I only have about Utah is not defensively.
There will be stronger defensively. It's offensively. Like I love
the fact that they have Jason Beck, I love the
fact that have Devin Dan Peter, But I just I
don't trust their their prospects in their quarterback room going forward.
(17:37):
Their only legit one that you can bang gun for
the next couple of years is Isaac because he tested
the transfer market and really didn't receive anything that was
you know, forefront for him to leave. Besides a bunch
of D two schools and some mid tier D one
FCS programs, he didn't get another big FBS program to
you know, bite on his potential. So right now, in
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my eyes, if you looked at by U's you know room,
at their quarterback room. You could pluck McKay hill State
out of there. You could pluck bear Bachmeyer out of there.
You could pluck you know, writer Lions if he doesn't
get enough playing time. They have legit guys in the
program that you can legitimately bank on other FBS programs
looking at saying hey we want that guy, so I
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I And to your point about Kilane not getting non
uh LDS players, I disagree with that. I mean looking
at their roster the last couple of seasons. A case
in point l J.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
Morton.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
L J.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Morten is non LDS and he left you know, uh
he left New Mexican.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
No New Mexico.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
You u NLV to go to BYU, and minus a
couple of injuries, he's legitimately they're stacked back.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
He No, it's a it's a good point, but you're
not gonna consistently fill your roster up with great, four star,
five star non LDS athletes.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
That's very true.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
But you know what I've seen in the last couple
of years with how BYU's built their rosters, their returning
missionaries have come. I'm in NFLD down the program in
successful ways. And I believe in Colonia. I just I see,
I see there's no way the rolling of the snowball
down this hill that BYU's on. I don't see anything
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getting in his way. I think it's legitimately a program
you can buy in for the next three years look back.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And it's no longer than that. I mean, I know
it's crazy to me ask you, like ten years. Yeah,
by ten years are they Are they a perennial power
in the Big twelve?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I mean the Big twelve's door is wide open because
you no longer have the staggering, you know, top tier
of the program with Texas and Oklahoma they're gone. You
no longer have the days of the nineties where it
was Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas dominating, you know, the Big
twelve where you can never crack open that top four.
(19:55):
Now these days you have a revolving door a little bit. Yeah,
Arizona State right now is the is the favorite. But
you have Arizona State, you have Kansas State, you have
Iowa State, you have BYU, Utah, Texas Tech, you have Baylor,
you have TCU.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
No, it's wide open. It's you know. What's interesting about
that though, is that, first of all, we were talking
about like five to ten years down the road. Ten years.
I don't even know if the Big twelve is going
to exist. We don't even know. But the what's fascinating
about this era of college athletics, especially college football, is
(20:32):
I think your year to year success is so it's
paramount to how you do the next year. That is
to say that you if BYU has a down year
this year, and let's say they go two years this
year and next year not good, they win five games
each year, let's just for the sake of argument. No,
(20:54):
I'm not saying that's gonna happen. I'm saying, but in
a hypothetical situation, let's say that happens BYU. You brought
up a great point with the money. They have more
money than Utah. I think I don't have any I'm
not an expert. It just seems I think that safe
to say BYU has a lot of money. If they
go five and seven and five and seven, those donors
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are not going to be as willing to open the
wallets as they have been after last season. Last season,
is there's a reason BYU is thrown around a lot
of money. It's because they've been they were successful last year.
Boosters are excited. Boosters with the means are excited. So
in this era of college football, it could depend on
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it could go year to year.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
But also what I again to fight back or what
I also I saw from BYU especially, let's take these
last two months. Obviously, with the departure of j Greslav,
going from BYU to Tulane. What I've seen on social
media by BYU fans is they're willing to accept a
falter of a year this year. They're willing to accept
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the idea that there was a pros there's a pot
supposed to possibly win eleven games, and they've accepted that
they could possibly only win eight games. And they don't
hate the idea of going to Orlando, Florida to play
in the pop Tar Bowl. They don't hate the idea
if they had to go back to Texas to play
in the Almo Bowl this year. They are accepting the
idea that this year is a bit of a step down,
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And let me finish our banking on again. What I
keep hitting the nail on the head is they're banking
on the future of the quarterback room and Kloni in
the recruiting process to make up for which is a
great point by you as saying year by year. But
I think BYU boosters and the money and the fans
are accepting a one bad year, and we'll put the
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pressure on client and say, listen.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
We gave you one year.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
You need to repeat what happened last season to come
back again for us to believe in it.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
No, no, I agree, I know absolutely. I think this
year you're getting a mull again. Absolutely, And look and
if you're BYU, if you're klown satake, you deserve one.
This year. You don't have your starting quarterback, you know,
got kicked out of school a month before the season started.
So I absolutely you're right. That's why I said. That's
why I said two years. If you go hell fine,
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we'll doree three years. If BAU is losing, for sake
of argument, they're winning five games the next three years,
that snow Just like you mentioned, success snowballs, failure, snowballs,
under achievement snowballs, even more so in this era of
nil and instant gratification. And we've seen that with Utah
(23:39):
in a sense like think out dominant and how great
Utah football has been the past fifteen ten years, ten
to fifteen years, and they've had two bad seasons. And
I would argue a lot of that had to do
with bad luck as far as injuries and having a quarterback. Now,
not all of it. I don't think. I do not
think they prepared well. They did not have a backup
(24:00):
plan for if their quarterback went down, which that's on
the coaching staff and everybody up there. But have the
Utah boosters. It's not that the sky is falling, but
the enthusiasm. It's taken a hit. It's taken a hit,
and you just in this era of hey we can
go get guys out of the portal. We should be
(24:22):
right there every year. Man, you do not have a
long leash as a head coach any year or anymore
in college football. If you're just joining us Jordan Bianucci
alongside Martin Kelly, Bryce, hopefully we'd be back tomorrow. He's
under the weather today. You're listening to Bryce and Bianucci
on one of three nine ninety eight three ESPN the Fan.
We're asking the question, long term, if you had to
(24:44):
buy stock, are you buying it? In BYU football or
Utah football. Hit us up on the text line eight
seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
We're going to.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Revisit this throughout the show, but coming up next we
will hear from some b White, maybe a little Koloni
satake sound, some Utah fall camp sound, a lot more
to get to some Major League baseball, and then obviously
our NFL Blitz coming up at seven forty five or
so this morning. We'll take a break, come back after
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It is Bryson Bianucci on a Monday morning, Bryce under
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here in our downtown Salt Lake City Studios. We hope
Bryce will be back tomorrow. Bryce drink a lot. What
do you do when you have a sore thrive? Go
a lot of tea, A lot of a lot of tea.
(26:02):
Put the honey in the tea. Hot shower. That always helps.
Uh yeah, what what is your advice? Sore throats?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
So it doesn't show because I'm such a giant and
my full names as irish as you could probably get.
But I'm half Hispanic, so being half Hispanic and being
that my Hispanic mother gave me the best remedies when
I was a kid. Man, I just made chicken soup
and I probably put You know, you're not supposed to
eat a lot of garlic because you know your significant
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other doesn't want to kiss the garlic he lips. But
I pound, I pound hard on the garlic. Man, I
pound hard on garlic onions. I throw that in there
and take some night quill, and you know what takes
some hot showers.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
I learned that as a remedy.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And about two days later, man, I'm feeling as fresh
as as fresh as the daisy. So you know, I
hit harder with the garlic and the onions and the soup,
chicken soup. You know, a little bit of hot showers,
some night quill, and you know some good and wake
up fresh.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
That's right. Hey, I'm with you. I it's we are
getting into during the springtime. Here's the thing during basketball
and spring. That's when Bryce and I are busiest because
Bryce will do Utah Valley basketball, I'll do Utah Valley baseball,
and in fact, Bryce will do the color for baseball.
So he's doing a ton. So we're doing three hours
in the morning and then we're doing at in the evening,
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three maybe four more hours of talking. You know, baseball.
It's you're just talking for three straight hours, if not
more so. Yeah, a lot of a lot of throat
coat tea and honey. Not stay away from the spicy foods.
That's that's one way I would go Otherwise. Yeah, I mean,
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you pretty much knelt it. Have you ever used Oh?
But the reason I brought that up was we have
we have high school football this Friday night on the station.
We're going down to Provo tune in seven o'clock kickoff.
I believe that's the way fun high school football is
back then. I'm gonna be honest, high school football starts
a little too damn early for me. It's August eleventh.
It's it's it's by the way your time in temp On.
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It's seven point thirty three on a Monday, sixty four
degrees in downtown Salt Lake, city. We're going to get
up to a high of eighty nine. Martin, I didn't
know if you knew that. I'm a meteorologist. A little
low with sixty four today, a little low pressure system
coming in from the south. There's not I don't really
even know what that means.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Your West coast knowledge and voice are a very perfect
combination for you to be a meter outlet.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
That's right. Wait, we got a little smoke coming in
from the east from the fire that's going to burn
down the rest of the state. So just keep aware
of that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Amen.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
So I'm praying out for those people out Toilla. Man,
that fire. I saw it on the news last night.
It looks it looks a bit scary, man, it is.
There was there's a fire down in Richo Stansbury area
now in Tuila, like the mountains.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Are catching on fire.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I drove past it because I was in Reno. I
was in Lake Tahoe and so I was coming east
on I eighty yeah, two days ago, Saturday, and it
was the hill the hills were black, man, it was
it was spooky. So yeah, be careful out there, uh,
Bryce and Martin holl Urchiebrys Jordan and Martin holding it
down on a Monday. We're gonna get to some Kalani
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Satake sound in this uh segment. If I'm pausing there,
it's because Martin, I have my four computer screens in
front of me right now, and our friend Ronald Weaver
the third is on Team Viewer and Mike. It makes
it look like or somebody's on Team Viewer. It makes
it look like the computer's haunted. The mouse is moving
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by itself, and it's freaking me out over here, you
and me both.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Man. He pulls that magic trick whenever he wants.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, I'm on the computer, and all of a sudden,
the mouse just starts going, the curser starts moving. All
these different places, these freaking buildings haunted, all right, Uh.
Kalani Satake spoke to the media on Friday the the
We don't play a lot of this sound on the
show because a lot of it is not super interesting,
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and it's a lot of cliches. It's a lot of
non answers because coaches don't want to give up a
lot of information fall camp. And then if you're talking
to Utah players here, Kyle Whittingham, you're getting great sound.
Sound from the jugs machine, which was just phenomenal placement
of let's interview everyone by the giant jugs and machine
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over it right, Utah, So let's get into it. We're
gonna hear just a couple of minutes of Kalani Satake
talking about Bui U's quarterbacks and a little more here
it is.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Practice today really good. We had some live work with
the ones, the twos and the threes and situational work,
so a lot of good things. First time in full pads,
so that it was good to get some tackling in,
get some tackling drills, all that stuff, so it pleases
the way the team's working. Obviously, we had some mistakes.
Just make sure those mistakes don't show up tomorrow tomorrow
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and show up in the next practice. That's going to
be the goal. And I don't expect us to not
make any mistakes in practice, but I expect us to
fix them and make sure that they're not occurring every time.
So but I think that that's a given when you
have what our defense is doing. We had a couple
of false starts and you know, had had the ball
on the ground and a bat snap. But other than that,
I think those are very fixable items. You got to
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go see how that we did. Everybody doing their one eleventh.
So what questions do you guys have for me?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Is there a quarterback that's starting to separate themselves at all?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Now?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
They're all playing at a high level, all of them,
and so that's a good sign. Makes it more difficult.
We asked them to make it difficult for us, and
so they're doing that, and we just got to keep
giving them a situational work like today and so my work,
even though the quarterbacks aren't live kind of seeing them
the decision making process for them. Are they making great
decisions and really difficult times?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
You know?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Golinding with the situation with Polkai, are you concerned now
what you're running back dead?
Speaker 1 (31:53):
No?
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I mean we've had a deep group for a while now.
We're still waiting on what happens with full Ale, with
Hinkley and so, but I feel really confident with the
rest of the guys obviously, uh, the entire group. And
we removed Preston Rex over there and he's getting some
good work and Seun is doing great there, so I
think we'll be in a good spot.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So h.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Colonnie give us something. I'm begging. I'm begging these coaches,
not just called Kyle, give us something, please, anything, every listen.
I get it, that's not their job. I'm I'm joking
around here, but but we need I need I need something, Martin.
I need some sort some anything, some sort of sort
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of interesting. It's or not everyone's playing at a high
level at quarterback. I guess that could be true. Maybe.
I mean, I'm not accusing you of lying. That's good
news for b y U if that's. If that's the case,
I am so ready for actual games that I'm losing
my mind here because at least when then when we
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talk to these guys, we can be like, well, here's
what we saw on the field. You know what I mean.
You have a you have a frame of reference. It's
just so anyway, that was Clonie Satalki on Friday giving
us the rest of the if you want to get
into like the minutial, we're just talking quarterbacks right now
in this segment, but if you want to get into
he'll give you a better info on other position groups.
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But obviously they're not going to tell you who's who's
playing better than you know who's playing the best out
of those quarterbacks. They don't want to give anybody or
Portland State or whoever. I guess a leg up. I don't.
I don't know if I totally buy that strategy, but uh,
it is what it is. That's fine right now. I
think it's just from everything I've read, it seems like
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McKay Hillstead's the guy right now. But what was interesting
is this was in I believe the Tribune on Saturday
or yesterday. Our friend Kevin Reynolds wrote a piece and
he's to and I'll have gosh darn it, I think
it was Fessei Satake he spoke to. And it's read
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between the lines of this article about ba's quarterbacks, and
guess who the number two guy is? Number ones. I
would probably go Hillstead based on the quotes in this
article in the Tribune, and check it out. Number two
doesn't sound like it's Borgae. It sounds like it's the
freshman Bear Bachmeyer. Does that surprise you, Martin?
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Not really to even add to that.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
On Friday with Coudar Sports, we listened to a part
by Jerem Jordan when he was doing his show earlier
in the day, and he made the case.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
And I listened to it.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
He made the case, listen if it's close, if it's
close between McKay Hillstad and bar Bachmeyer, he'd rather start
bart Bachmeyer and have McKay Hillstad back up Bear for
the rest of the season. Now, I don't know if
that's also based on the fact that Bear's brother, Tiger
is doing pretty well in the in the in the
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wide receiver room. Now, obviously there's Chase Roberts. Chases obviously
the number one on this team. There's no question about that.
You're not taking that spot away from him. But you
know you have all the wide receiver two in three
spots open right now. You have Jojo Phillips, you have
Parker Kingston, and you have Tiger Bachmayert Can being for
that spot. Now we're talking mostly quarterbacks. To go back
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to that, I agree, I think it's McKay hill Staid.
I think it's Barry Bachmart. I don't think Trayson is
completely out of it, but I don't think Trason is
the guy that they need at that spot because what
I've seen with Trayson, he reminds me a lot of
Keys and Slovas here reminds me a lot of what
you know, Sorry, I just forgot his name. He's the
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transfer to t Lane RESLV. He reminds me a lot
of that, you know, the standard pocket quarterback, and he's
gonna make all those decisions, but doesn't have the athletic
ability to escape the pocket. I think what b Yu
wants to do is get back to that Zach Wilson,
you know, style of escaping the pocket, extending plays. I
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don't think Aaron Roderick hates that at all from his quarterbacks.
I believe he actually likes that more from his quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I think McKay hill said legitimately has the best arm
out of the talent. You know, he can throw the
forty five fifty yard bombs, he can connect with the
long plays.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
But I think Bear.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Actually makes a lot of great decisions. I think him
in the sense of running an option offense, making the
twenty twenty five yard throws, making the quick reads, doing
that running style is a real, real advantage to him.
So I really do think it comes down to those
two quarterbacks, And like Jerem Jordan said, I have to agree.
If it's really really close Bete McKay and Bear, I
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would start bear Well. I mean, you have nothing to
lose right now. Borgay is not your guy for the future.
He's a really fun quarterback. McKay hill said, yes, you
brought him in from Utah State. You convince him to
leave the Aggies to come down to Provo. You know what,
maybe it's just not in the cards and he transfers
out the season, but he'll get play in time. I
one hundred percent believe that, but I agree with it.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
If you're gonna, if.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
You're gonna swallow a mulligan type season, why not a
star bear back, myyer, You stole him from Stanford.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
You got his brother too. You might as well roll
the dice and see if that works.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Right now, I don't think BYU has anything to lose
if they pick between one of those two quarterbacks, because
they know this season is not eleven or twelve win season.
They can accept an eight win season with a little
bit of a revolving door quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah well, if yeah, no, I'm with you. If it's close,
you're going Bachmeyer because he has the longer ups the
more upside going into the future. McKay hillstead not your
quarterback of the future. The reason you would go with
Hillstead is if he's definitely the better quarterback and that
he can and he can keep you in games to
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a greater degree than Bachmeyer can. That is the reason
you go. Hill said, if you go with hill Stead,
you're going. Okay, this guy by far gives us the
best chance to win this year. And that's tempting because
if your b yu your boy, you look good everywhere
else as far as position groups go. So you that's
why there were so expectations where sky high this year
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with a with redslov coming back. So no, I agree,
if you if it's close, Bachmeyer's your your guy because
then you set yourself up for next season and then
who knows what happens with with Ryder Lions, the highly
touted quarterback recruit coming in from California, And I think
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two years is he is it?
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, it'll be it'll be twenty twenty seven. I think
it will be summer year. Yeah, well I believe you're right.
So yeah, so absolutely I would go with with with
back Meer. You know what I kept, what's I'm in
NFL mode when I'm thinking football and if your BYU
your wish this was the NFL in the sense that
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you're like, you know, if we can get Bachmeyer some
snaps and show what he can do, and the Lions
comes in and if he's ready to go, yeah we
can trade Bachmeyer.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
We can get a whole lot of draft picks.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
You never know, maybe the NFL does buy college football
and turns it into their their Triple A system.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yeah, I'm telling you, man, Yeah we can do it. Man,
we could deal him. We get a bundle.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
But to go back to your original point in saying
Kilane doesn't give us a whole lot, I think he
gave us a whole lot with saying that you know
he wants the quarterbacks to compete. I think that's not
a bad thing at all when you have a quote,
when you have a coach that says, hey, listen, I
want him to make it hard on us to make
a decision. And I think at the end of the day,
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that's what you want to hear from your coach. That's
why I said he's such a dad of a head coach.
He won't give you absolutely every answer, but he's going
to give you little tibbets. He's going to give you
a little little signs of where he's going with his decision,
and I think he's absolutely doing it the right way.
Speaker 5 (39:59):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I most coaches, when losing your starting quarterback eight weeks
prior to fall camp would be acting like this. Maybe
they would be a little bit, you know, tentative, maybe
they would be a little hesitant to talk about anything
when it comes to quarterbacks. Golanie's giving you straight up like, hey,
they're making it hard, and we want it. We want
them to make it hard.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
But I don't know if he is good. And I'm
not faulting him for this because I'm this is what
all coaches do. I don't know if he's given it
to us straight up. For all we know, one of
them looks like garbage and the other two are fantastic.
He's not gonna say that, he's not gonna and that's fine,
Like again, I get it, but but I haven't been
at practice to see. I'll take his word for it
because I'm like, you know, what else are you gonna do?
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And again, I'm not bashing on coaches for doing this.
I'm just kind of making fun of it and laughing
about it because we're all of course, you know what
I mean, Like we don't. We don't know, And no,
am I gonna trust the head coach of a college
football team? Hell no, of course I'm not gonna like
there's no reason for him to be honest with the
media at this point. And the whole read If you're
just joining us, the reason we're talking about this is
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we're just ready for games to start so we can
actually see these guys and see what they look like
on the field. We're gonna get into the NFL Blitz
coming up next. We're still talking to college football in
this segment. Utah's another one we keep hearing about, and
we're gonna hear from j. T. Wister still by the way,
our Utah insider later on in the show, but we
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don't get much from Kyle as far as the wide
receiver room goes. We did get something interesting. I was
reading this. This was on KSL from our friend Josh Furlong.
He asked, I think it was for long. He asked
with basically, what do you like about the new Jason
Beck offense? What is something that stands out? And he
said that the big play ability of this offense stands out.
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That's huge if you're Utah because that has not been
there obviously the past couple of years. And that's what look.
You bring in a guy like Devin dan Pierre. He's electric,
he's athletic, h has has an arm, can run your
biggest My biggest question mark has been the wide receiver room.
I don't think that's a real tough one if you're
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if you're Utah, and now what are we getting out
of Utah, Martin? We're getting on the wide receivers look
pretty good. They're actually stepping up some guys we didn't know.
Is that true. I'll take their word for it, like
you sure hope so if you're Utah, because that's the
Achilles heel I feel like on this team right now.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
We'll listen to some Kyle Winningham's sound later in the show.
I got a chance to listen to some of it
on Friday, and he said some of the same things
about the wide receiver room. And I trust what Kyle
has to say. Being around him is as little as
I have been. I'm going to take his word on it,
and I agree with you like I like I said,
I like the fact that Klanni keeps us straight. But
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you know, to add to what you say about coaches
not giving you everything they want, that's the kind of
I believe the Dan Asi and college Well, these days,
coaches are gonna keep their cards real close to their chest.
They're not gonna reveal anything that they have that they.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Want you to know.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
And you know what, Kyle and Klinia have been in
this business for a long time. They worked with each
other on the same staff, so they know, you know,
the same style. I think Colanie picked that up from Kyle.
You know, just kind of keep it straight, leveled, and
and give him a solid answer.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
The wide receiver room is a question mark for Utah.
You gotta think, you know, is that big playability gonna
come out this season. You mentioned Jason Beck in his
high flying offense with Devin Dan Peter One agree.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
With all those takes.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
I think Kyle is when responding to the media, he's
keeping it a straight shot. And I don't think that's
a bad idea at all to kind of keep the
cards hold, because minus what BYU is gonna have to
do is Portland State, even if they told Portland State
what they're gonna do at quarterback, Utah keeping their wide
receiver room quiet is a good thing because they got
to go up against UCLA. Ucla is not a legit
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powerhouse to win the Big Ten, but they're not gonna
be a dog walk team for Utah either. And they're
going back to the Rose Bowl. I mentioned this on Friday.
They're going back to a place. They're zero to two
and they're two attempts to win the Rose Bowl place.
It's not a very fun place for Utah fans to
go in that situation. So, you know, even playing a
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u c l A team with a transfer from you
got nicol el Man Lavea from Tennessee to come into
the program, you know what. Like, honestly, that Rose Bowl
venue is a bit of a thorn and the Utah's side.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
So I don't I don't actually.
Speaker 4 (44:39):
Hate at all that Kyle Winningham keeps his cards to
himself and it's keeping UCLA in the dark when it
comes to their wide receiver room and what they're expecting.
We'll see what happens that that first night when they're
playing against the u c l A. It's gonna be
a fun game. We'll see what offense they come out with.
But I don't just I don't totally hate. Uh Kyle
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woodhean keeping his cards close to himself.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, I mean Utah again, we're not really I'm not
faulting head coaches for you know, playing it close to
the vest I get it. I'm just saying it's boring,
uh for us from a selfish stand sure, sure, yeah,
I mean, look, you're going back to the Rose Bowl.
But it's it's it's the Rose Bowl versus UCLA. It's
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not the Rose Bowl and be you know, if you
look at the record, it's interesting you say that because
Utah has played well against UCLA in in Pasadena. They
haven't been perfect. Like Utah lost their last game at UCLA,
which was three years ago, uh forty thirty two, So
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they've they played well. But yeah, I mean, I am
I've played great. That is not going to be a
difficult road environment for for Utah. I think they are
going to be a lot of Utah fans in Pasadena.
So but and I'm just saying, I don't know who's
gonna win that game. I don't know. Here's the thing
that here's my question to you, Martin. You have if
you have tickets, you're you're not a You're not a
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diehard BYU. Finger's a football fan. You have tickets to
b YU, which is like a six o'clock start something
like that, and then UTA's an eight o'clock start. But
BYU's playing Portland State? What do you what do you
get you given those tickets away?
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Absolutely listen, I have a chance. Listen.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
This is you're you and I are old enough to
know who Alan Jackson is man the granddaddy of them.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, I get that.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
I I don't know if you know. I don't think
I answer asked the question properly. Are you giving up
the b YU tickets to see them live play Portland
State to just take it easy at home?
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Yes, okay, absolutely listen. I get that point of the question.
I went a little too far with my answer, but yes,
I'm giving out the tickets to watch the to watch
the I'm just watching it because they're playing at the venue.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
I listen.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I don't care what happens in the game. I mean, yeah,
I'm watching that game because it's it's the Rose Bowl. Man, Like,
there's not another venue like that in college football.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
No, I'm with you, and it's less to me about
like I love, I want to go to that game.
I'd love to go to the rest. But even like
just that, it's I think that'll be a good game.
I think U Ucla obviously it's the most intriguing game.
I think I might be with you. It might be
just like, yeah, going and I have I have, I could,
I could go to the BYU game.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
I mean week one.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
You will open up the season with Texas and Ohio
State at one o'clock for some reason, at ten o'clock
in the morning, and you end the night with watching
Utah and UCLA.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, maybe maybe watching BAU at home that night, maybe watching.
Speaker 4 (47:39):
Ba Hey, listen, Portland State. It's a very fun Division
one FCS program. They're not a bad team at all.
I know them because they play in the UAC. They
play against Utah texts, I've seen them a couple of times.
They're a fun team. But BYU is going to roll them,
just like they did with Southern Utah Southern Illinois last year.
I want to watch a legitimately competitive game, regardless of
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the result. Utah Ucla. That's a competitive game.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
It is, and the only reason like this wouldn't even
be a question unless and we're talking, we're not talking.
If you're a BYU fan and you have tickets, even
if it's a Portland State, you're probably enjoying just getting
out of the stadium. I get that we're talking. If
you're just a football fan, yeah, and you have tickets,
you're not You're not parties in here.
Speaker 5 (48:21):
No, I have no problem passing on my tickets.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (48:24):
The only reason I would ever even consider going to
the Portland State game and then missing part of that
Utah game is it's the quarterback situation. It's like, what
are we going to see?
Speaker 4 (48:36):
I bet you in a scenario if the game gets
really out of hand by the third quarter, I think
we'll see all three quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Do you really?
Speaker 4 (48:46):
I think we'll see all three quarterbacks. I think McKay
will be the one to start, and if it's thirty
five and nothing by halftime, they'll throw in probably four
gay and throw them in there for a while. And
if he has it at forty nine to nothing, we
will see Bear Blackmeyer probably play the whole entire four quarter.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I think you could maybe maybe see two if it's
a huge blout, But even then I would if it
depends how they feel about the quarterback going into that
game if they feel like, Okay, Hillstead is our guy,
there's not. We're not wavering on the like we're not.
It's not forty nine to fifty one percent. Like, No,
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he's our guy. I think you're gonna see him play,
and I think he should play the majority of the
game because he's still the more that dude needs reps.
He needs reps. Maybe I'm I'm maybe I'm wrong, but
I would boy, it's a that's a great question, Martin,
because yeah, if you're up big, do you give a
guy another because I if it's reds soft, yeah you
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take him out, but you know it's not.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Also, to add to that, I think the game BYU
fans really want to see Bear Blackmeyer come out is
the next week. Portland State is Portland State. But if
you're going I think they're going to Stanford. I have
to look at the schedule. If they're having Stanford here,
that's the game that BYU fans want to see Bear
come out because they want to see them rub it
(50:09):
into the Stanford Cardinals' faces, see hey, we stole your
quarterback and your wide receiver and look at him in
our colors, with our background, with our stadium because BYU
Stadium is really beautiful with that background, and you can't
ask for much more than that. But the whole point
is that's the game. I think BYU fans want to
see him come out. They will see him come out
(50:29):
of Portland State, but the big game in the first
three games if you can if because it's to me,
it's like non preseason games, it's just walk through games
that they have at the beginning of the season. They
want to see him in the Stanford game. They want
to see him fling the football against his old teammates.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, because he's only there during spring and the ten
Stanford fans that are going to make the trip aren't
going to give a damn. They didn't even know who
he was in the first place. And also they're Stanford.
They have other things on their that's true.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
They got to worry about their academic.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Well, yeah, football, Like there's a there is a We
could talk about this on the show all the time
if we want to get in really get into the
things that people want to talk about Stanford football. There
is a contingent of Stanford alumni that care about football,
and they're pissed off, frankly about how it's going. But
there there's a reason there are ten thousand people showing
(51:23):
up to Stanford games right now. Now. If they're good,
if they can resurrect that program, it'll be more. But
they you know, not a lot of people care. And
you know, I get it.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
We's got to see what Andrew luck can do. He's
a very smart man. Let's see what NFL strings he
can pull to pull that program back.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
It's I'm with you. That really will be interesting. The
college football is better when Stanford's good. College football is
better when Stanford is good. Let's take a break right
here on Bryce and ban Ucci. By the way, hit
us up on the text line. We're asking long term,
are you buying stock in BYU football or Utah ball?
Next five years or so, maybe even a little longer,
(52:03):
are you buying stock in Utah football BYU football? Check
in on the text line eight seven seven three five
three zero seven hundred. That is eight seven seven three
five three zero seven hundred. Martin and I disagreed about
this topic, so we'll revisit that in the second and
third hour. Coming it up next though. It is your
NFL blitz right here on Bryce and Biononucci Jordan and
(52:26):
Martin Bryce under the weather on one of three nine
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