August 14, 2025 • 45 mins
Brice and Bianucci break down the early weeks of the college football slate, BYU and Utah Fall Camp, the Angels' sweep of the Dodgers, the Mets' collapse, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From Lovevell Edwards Stadium to Rice Ecle Stadium. It's time
to talk Cottage football with Lisen Bia Neugi in the
morning on one O three nine at ninety eight three
the Band part of Utah's ESPN Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hour number two eight oh five on this Thursday, August
the fourteenth, Bryce and Bianucci right here on your radio
one O three nine to ninety a three ESPN the
Fan live here every single weekday from seven to ten am.
Some news coming down from college football that will tell
you about about Michigan along with a coach that got
very passionate about name, image and likeness. That is in
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two minutes time right now. I have a question for you.
I asked you earlier on X what are you going
to do with your last free weekend until college football
starts up? This weekend is your last free Saturday before
you got Week zero the next week and then you
have football on consecutor weeks until February. Your last free weekend.
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What are you going to do with it? Well, one
thing that I could tell you you should do with
it is head out to Sansbury Park golf Course. Everyone
is talking about Tuila County's historic golf course Stansbury Park
Golf Course, and for good reason. It's the perfect combination
of challenge, pace and price. There's water on almost every
single hole, greens that roll true, and a layout that
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keeps you focused and fired up. Jordan, I went out there,
played with a couple of friends and it was not
a good day for me because anytime I see water,
that's where my ball is headed. So if there's water
on every single hole, you can be sure that I
lost at least eighteen balls that day.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Bryce get wet Larson, so get this.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You could also play a full round without spending your
whole day out there. It's really fast speeds. They keep
it moving along. There's no long way, it's no overpriced
green fees, just pure golf. You could play eighteen holes
during the week for only forty five bucks, which is
incredible these days. I mean we're talking sixty four to
sixty five dollars up and down the Wahsatch front for
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eighteen holes with the cart. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
That's a good deal.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm a cart guy, So forty five bucks for eighteen
holes fifty dollars on weekends, that's a great deal. Right
off of I eighty is super easy to get to,
uh and it's starting to become a lot of people's
go to spot over the weekend. So head to Stansbury
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dot gov slash golf. All right, let's jump into the
latest news around college football this morning eight oh eight
on Bryce and Biannucci. According to Pete Dammel and Dan Wetzel,
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the NCAA has formally notified parties tied to the Michigan
NCUBAA infractions case. That and an announcement on the findings
and punishment will be publicly released on Friday. So tomorrow
we're gonna get an announcement on the infractions and whether
or not Michigan is going to get the book thrown
at them. This is for the Connor Stallions signs stealing
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operation situation. Jordan Biannuchra, My question to you, will Michigan
get punished by the nc doable A in the way
that they should. Will the punishment fit the crime.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know what does that mean? You know what
I mean? What at this point? What is the like
what I don't know what the punishment would fit the ground?
Like how that works? Like what should the punishment be? Really?
Because the people that are there, I get a lot
of them are still there.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Black Harpa's gone, yeah, Connor Stallions is doing podcasts.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Now, Yeah, Like what what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What's Sharon Moore still the head coach? He was on staff?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, but like what is is it to punish those players?
Not a lot of them? You know, it's not the
same team.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I had the opportunity to talk to Andrew Gentry who
played on that team.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Did you ask him about that?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I should have.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
You should have asked him.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Missed opportunity. Next time, I'm gonna request Andrew Gentry again,
only to not even to do an interview with him,
just to ask him about Connor Stallions And if he
actually like interacted with him at.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
All, I don't even know. I doubt he did, because
probably not Stallions would come in and just you know,
do his own thing, do his own thing, get it done.
You benefited from Connor Stallions, although was it mostly it
was a It was mostly a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Probably a defensive thing. Yeah, maybe it could have been
an offensive thing. Well, there was this wing, the defensive signs.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
There was a documentary on Netflix that basically walked through. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He also did a sit down interview with Craning Company.
Our friend Ja Crane sat down and they had Connor
Stallion's on. They asked him his his you know, theories
and everything the way that he would do it Connors. Yeah. Man,
that's one of the greatest stories in all of college
football in my opinion, that dude. The fact that he
was on the sidelines as a coach for a different team. Yeah,
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that's crazy, that's insane. That's dedication right there.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, what in what world did he not think he
was going to get caught for that? Like it's not
in nineteen ninety five, Like there are a billion cameras.
You don't think somebody sometime somewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, that's just wild. That is crazy. All right, Well
we'll stick around there close to Big ten Country because
Northern Illinois, their head coach had a lot to say
about Nil. His name's Thomas Hammock. This is a part
of his press conference from the other day, Thomas Hammock
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went off about NIL players transferring for money lessons that
he learned as a college football player, and then started
to go viral across social media. This is what Thomas Hammick,
the head coach of the Northern Illinois Huskies, had to
say about NIL and kids transferring out of his program.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah to me, I mean to be honest with you,
I love the challenge. You know. It don't bother me
one bit because you know what, in life, you're gonna
make decisions right. Sometimes it's gonna work in your faithor
and sometime it's not. I told our team the other day,
you know, we lost all these guys. Let's see who plays.
So it's all good when people put it on Twitter. Hey,
all glory to God. I'm going in the transfer portal.
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Let's see if they play. How many of other guys
gonna play or travel or get snaps? You know, I
was thinking I was gonna tweet something the other day
a picture of me and say, you know what, I
enjoyed my college experience. I didn't get one dime, but
the lessons I learned was more valuable than any money
you can ever pay me. And I appreciate that because
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that is long term. People are losing the fact that
this is short term. I coached in the National Football
League for five years. Five years, right, don't lose fact,
don't lose focus or what the long term.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Get your degree, learn.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Valuable lesson that's going to help you in the long
term of your life. That's the whole purpose. This is
a transition from being a kid to a grown up.
And I hope people don't lose focus of that. Everybody's
talking about everything else besides what is the most important
thing for going to college? Because if you going to
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college to go get a couple of dollars, you might
have just go get a job. This is too hard
to go get a couple dollars. Learn the lesson that
you need to learn to be successful in life for
the next forty to fifty years of your life. That
I would do it again for free, for free because
of the things I learned. That's why I'm standing here today,
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because of what I learned in college, not because of
how much somebody gave me. That's what I would tell
people and parents they need to learn that lesson too.
Stop trying to live through your kids, teach your kids,
what the order to think they need to learn to
be successful. That's what I'm telling my kids. I don't
care about no nil, no revenue share. I can care less.
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You need to learn things in college to get you
prepared for life, to be a father, a husband, to
work everything else. Those are the most important things. That's
what people are missing, in my opinion, just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's Northern Illinois head coach Thomas Hammock Jordan. He was
the coach of that NIAU team that ended up beating
Notre Dame a season ago.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, you know, he's not wrong. And what's interesting about
this is he's not talking or at least I don't
take it this way because the players that are leaving
his program generally are not going to LSU to make
five million dollars or you know what I mean whatever
he's talking about. Dudes that are like leaving, I bet
you to make what upper upper tens of thousands of
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dollars somewhere, And he's they may not get snaps, may
not get playing time. Because if you're I if it's
life changing money, I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like it's hard.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
You know, you could arguably shouldn't pass that up. But
I think we I think, and I'd like to ask
him this, but I bet you a ton of the
guys that he lost got a little bit more money
than they were getting it. M IU, does that make sense? Like,
you know, not not. We're not talking life changing money.
We're talking like, I don't know, I'm just gonna throw
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out like, let's say, fifty thousand dollars, that's a lot
of money. It's not life changing money. So I'm I'm
with him. The other aspect of this is he mentioned
that like college is a time where you are like
you're you're learning new things, You're you're broadening your horizons,
you're trying different things out, You're all this stuff. The
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problem is, if you're a college football player, most of
them don't have time for any of that because they're
so focused on football. That's the bigger issue I see
with like major at major college sports, and we talk
about it all the time, is that he's right, except
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that these guys don't have the time to be normal
college students, and so they end up just chasing money.
And because he's not wrong, like the degree is more
valuable for most of the guys he's coaching than the
nil money they're going to get. But how valuable is
that degree when it's in you know, like whatever major
has the easiest schedule that fits with college football. Yeah,
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that's that's a bigger issue.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I Yeah, I like what he had to say about
these players moving on whatever. And he also said he
likes the challenge. He enjoys bringing kids in and having
to go and recruit guys over again and trying to
make sure that he retains his team and different things
like that. But a lot of people like what he
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has to say because there are lessons to be learned
in college football and it's not all just about the money,
especially at that level. At that level, guys aren't getting
paid the big time bucks. There will be some dudes
that move on from that program to go make life
changing money. But even at other power for schools, there's
guys that aren't making power you know, life changing money. Yeah,
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And I guess it kind of depends on what you
deem is life changing money, because I guess, you know,
getting a head start with one hundred and fifty thousand
bucks coming out of college, that's I mean, that could
help you out pretty true. Pretty well, if it's just
one hundred and fifty grand.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's no, absolutely, don't get me wrong. However, a college
degree in something that here's the thing, A college degree
or the college experience that is invaluable. And that's that's
where I agree with him. But as an athlete, it's
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hard to have that experience. But yeah, he's right, Like,
would if you're asking me, would I rather have a
college degree and that experience or just a one time
payment of one hundred grand? I take the degree in
the experience.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, go ahead? Would you like to hear? Mason Madson,
former Utah basketball player, he posted something on Instagram talking
about how much money he made throughout his basketball career. So,
Mason Madson, this is on his Instagram page, just one
of the reels. He posted it a while ago. He said,
how much money did I make playing Division one college basketball?
His freshman year was twenty twenty to twenty twenty one,
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said nil wasn't a thing. Yet he got about nine
hundred dollars a month the cost of attendance stipend from Cincinnati,
and then he saved most of it and bought a
two thousand and seven Prius for thirty seven fifty Okay,
and he still drives it today? Nice? All right? So
that was his freshman year, sophomore year twenty one to
twenty two.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
What year was the prius?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That was twenty to twenty one, So he wasn't getting
paid nil at that but he didn't say what year
the prius? Two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's what I'm hurt. A two thousand and seven prius
is still running. That's what we're talking. Wow, now we're talking.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
His sophomore year in twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two,
his first year of nil, things got interesting. He said,
we had a three point dunk contest that paid everyone
seven thousand, five hundred bucks. Still early days in nil,
but fun. His total that year was twelve thousand, five hundred.
It was sophomore year twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three.
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He transferred to Boston College. Said he thought they'd be
on top of nil since it was the ACC, but nope,
barely got anything twelve to fifty per semester CoA total
two thousand, five hundred. Okay, cost of attendance is what
he's talking about there. His senior year twenty twenty three
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to twenty twenty four, Boston College was still behind on nil.
His fifth year is total only total to twelve thousand,
five hundred bucks. He'd he did say most of the
money that he made, or most of the money from
Boston College went to one of his teammates. According to
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Mason mattson fifth year, he transferred to the University of
Utah to play with his twin brother. Boston College coaches
told me told him his portal value would be anywhere
from two hundred to three hundred thousand dollars, but he
signed with Utah, didn't ask for more money, and he
got paid one hundred thousand dollars total in NIL plus
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thirty thousand in rent stipend.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Thirty thousand dollars in rent stipend. Yeah, good lord, living
in a penthouse, living on top of yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
In Federal Heights, just hanging out, thirty thousand bucks a
month in rent.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Stipe thirty that way, not a month, right, it was total,
I don't know it was thirty dollars. But even thirty
thousand total, that's well, how much my Yeah, that's a lot. Well,
you know, honestly, it's not that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, that was total one hundred thousand dollars in NIL
and thirty thousand in rent stipend.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Okay for masons, it's not crazy. But he's living in
a nice place though.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, sell one hundred thousand bucks, that's how bad?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But here's the thing is that that's a kid. I mean,
and that's a couple of years ago. Even he's said.
The crazy thing is if I came into college now,
I would leave with well over one million dollars in
my account.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well that's the difference between basketball and football, right, Yeah,
because with basketball, the market is ridiculous. Like the amount
of money guys are getting that are going to power
for schools and are coming off the bench is absurd.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Not even power for schools. I was told by a
couple of coaches that there were kids who averaged like
twelve points a game in a West Coast Confine in
school that had over six different offers of over a
million dollars. Are you paying a kid from a West
Coast conference school that averages about twelve twelve and a
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half points a game over a million bucks in nil
to go play for your team?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And what I don't understand, what I don't understand is
where they think that's like, why is that financially feasible? Like,
is that kid contributing to them bringing in that much
more money?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's why I'm said, like, I don't get where these
numbers are coming from, and I think it's mostly just
boosters thrown out random ass numbers.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah and kids.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Right, yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, here's the thing, Like, you make a good point,
because if you get a guy like AJDT Bantsa, who
is the number one recruit in the nation, you pay
him a lot of millions of dollars because you get
the marketing from that that equals ten times that I
mean more invaluable.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like yeah, like you could not pay him enough at BYU,
you would Still the payback is enormous.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Is it that? The amount of primetime games, the amount
of graphics, the amount of media coverage exactly just publicity.
Apparently when Jimmer went on that run and is Jimmermania like,
it was upwards of fifty million dollars worth of free
marketing and advertising for BYU.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And that's that's the thing is with by that's a
very specific case because if you went to Kansas, it's
not the same because Kansas, yeah, you want him and
he's going to be great and you're going to make
money off of him. But you're Kansas. Everyone knows who
you are already. BYU, you're at a point where it's
like no one really knows BA basketball, you know what
I mean, Like BAU basketball isn't really well known nationally.
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So it's you could pay him one hundred million dollars
and it's still worth it, right, But yeah, absolutely, But
these other guys.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A guy that scores twelve point five, twelve and a
half points game.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Hey, good, more more power to you. But I don't Yeah,
I don't. I don't know. Wow, that's paying off for
the school.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So Thomas Hammick, the head coach of NIU, that was
his speech about learning things from playing college football and
how he would not be there if he didn't learn it,
and you'd go back and play for free. He would
do it for free. You wouldn't ask for a dime,
all right, head coach of Northern Illinois, which.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
By the way, no, he wouldn't. You don't think so
you wouldn't take the money. They'd be like like, hey,
you're gonna have the money. He's like, nope, I'm ripping
up the check. No, you would take you'd take the money.
I'm not saying he would leave where he went and
like Joe Chase money. But don't say you'd do it
for free. I don't. That's where I'm just like, Okay, well, no,
you wouldn't do it for free.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's an interesting time in all of college athletics, that
is for sure. Eight twenty four This Morning on Bryce
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on the conversation and am image and likeness playing for free?
Which play college football for free? There are some people
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out there that would play college football for free.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh a lot of people. Yeah, which a.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Lot of dudes that would be like, I'll do it
for free, coach, just let me get out there on
the field.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm not playing any football for free, high school nothing.
I'm like, oh wait, I get to ram, I get
to ram my brain into some other kid, like I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's actually crazy that I was listening to an interview
I can't remember who. It was a while ago, and
this was a dude that helps high school players get
nil deals. Imagine being a high school player and you're
making even just ten fifteen thousand bucks. I don't know
what I would do with fifteen thousand dollars as a
high school kid.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I can't believe that. I mean, those are talk about
financial feasibility, Like maybe in Texas or somewhere else, it's different.
There's nowhere in Utah where that makes sense for the school.
That's Buddy Garrity paying that money car dealership. That's the
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there was. And I'm trying to remember who the guest
was on Cougar Sports a few weeks ago, they had
on somebody at high school who knew high school sports,
and he said that it would not surprise him in
the next few years if high school sports kind of
diverts from football teams being associated with their actual high
school and more like CLUBAAU teams.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh yeah, I've heard of that before, Bishop Sycamore.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, how depressing is that. That doesn't mean that we're
not going to have high school He's like high school
sports would become like intramurals. Basically, He's like the big
time athletes would play on these club teams. It wouldn't
be associated with the school. It's no longer sanctioned.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, well, it would make sense because there's a lot
of things that have happened in the last couple of
years in high school football here in the state of Utah,
even with the sanctioning body, the governing body, similarly similar
to what the NCAA going through.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, but talk about killing high school football and what
the whole point of amateur athletics is. I mean that
is that doesn't make you want to fill your pockets
with rocks and walk into the ocean. That's just that
is such a bummer.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I just you've already got your academies in different schools
that are playing right now, Like I amg academy Bishop Gorman.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, well but yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know exactly how Bishop Gorman set up if
they still compete for state titles, but they just have
a bunch of national championship banners hung around that stadium.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Which, by the way, as a as a student, like
a kid going too high school and as a member
of the community, who gives an.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Ass about if you're a national champion?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, you know, what's that's not you know what I mean, Like,
don't get me wrong, You're like, that's cool. Did I
get to go to the National Championship with my friends
at like the University of Utah and see them beat
the town next to me. Now they beat a town
in Florida. Actually, they didn't even beat a they beat
a they beat they beat another another prep academy in
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clear Water that I've never heard of.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
All Right, There's also like Sunrise Christian in Kansas that
pumps out a lot of basketball players. There's another one
in Kansas City. Like, there's a lot of prep schools around.
And you know what, it wouldn't surprise me if now
that we see universities go away from Olympic sports, if
we see like those academies start popping up for Olympic sports, soccer,
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different things, and we go to more of a European
model where these kids go to like RSL Academy, which
is already a thing here in the state of Utah,
and they specifically go there to play soccer. They do
have a basketball team as well.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Though RSL Academy has a basketball team.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I think they have multiple sports, so it's not
just soccer. But these academies start popping up where it's
a sports academy. They go to school there, but it's
really focused about getting that kid from RSL Academy to
play for Ral Salt Lake one day. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well look, I mean it's a j Da Bonsa and
all these guys go into Utah Prep. Yeah yeah, like it,
but but it is a it's a bummer like Ajda
Bonza did not experience what high school basketball is about
and what what it could be. Now, look, he's trading
that for what I here. I'll be honest with you.
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What I don't get is he's going to be a
great player anyway. He's going to be an NBA player anyway.
You don't need to watch Thatch Academy to get prep
acamy or yeah whatever, Yeah exactly, like so that I
don't I don't get. But these guys like you are
trading a once in a lifetime invaluable experience. There's nothing
like high school basketball in a pack gym where the
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people are right on top of the floor and they
care about the outcome. They're not there to see you
because you're this superstar. No, they they they want to win.
There's nothing more intense than that. It's more intense than
college because you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, that's the thing about those prep academies. Is that
a lot of times the athletes are the only kids
that go to the school. So you're right, there's not
a student section. They are the students.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
There are no home games like they're very like for
so it's.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Just really not unless they like come up with one.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
No, but there's not that that's.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right going after the Boozer twins.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Exactly when and that's not a rival, you know what
i mean, Like, yeah, there's no So you're just missing
out on something that you will you cannot put a
dollar amount on, Like it's just you can't.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, I think A j Evans will be fine though.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
He will, but that that's what I don't like. He
will financially, but he'll never have that experience. That is true,
and he's probably like, yeah, I traded that for like
hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Right, Okay, there's a lot of people that do that.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Then I'm like, yeah, that's fine with although with ag
I Bondza, I still don't really. I'm like, dude, you
could have just gone to a regular high school if
you wanted to, and you'd still be a great player,
Like you know what I mean, you'd still make hundreds
of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Just the way that, Yeah, there are some dudes out there.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah for sure, because he's a different that's a different dude,
Like he doesn't need you got prep to get him to.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And part of that might just be because you play
on the regular high school circuit, you're not going to
be playing good enough players to get you prepared for
college and to be a freshman at the college level.
You play on those higher circuits, it's college players already. Essentially,
it's the Boozer Twins. You're playing against Bryce James, You're
playing against the biggest recruits in the rest of the nation.
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I think that is probably more of what they're going
after than getting the experience of playing. Here's the difference though,
in California, Like Bryce James, he played at a real
high school, Lebron james Son, both of them played at
a real high school, and they play for a high
school that still goes out and competes in the national
level and gets good games, but also plays in their
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circuit and play he plays regular high school kids too.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, and that that's.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
What in fact, their high school game got put on
TV over Seattle and Utah, Valley because Seattle couldn't put Yes,
you couldn't get ESPN in the building. That's right.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
They didn't have an extension court long enough.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Literally, come on, yeah, that's the that's the team the
West Coast Conference wanted to.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Luck. Uh, you need some install some more outlets. Yeah,
I mean, that's what I'm saying that like you can
have you, you can kind of have both in some
some instances. But if I'm a sure fire prospect, I'm like, dude,
I get one shot at playing high school basketball, and
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so I'm gonna take it. I'll make my money in college,
I'll make it in the pros. Yeah, but it's just yeah,
I mean it's sad because we will, you will lose
something when that, if that does go away.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
All right, we'll take a break here eight thirty two
this morning on Thursday, August the fourteenth. We appreciate you
being along for the ride. On Bryce and Biannucci. Coming
up next more for Major League Baseball, the Mets, the Giants,
all of it was a mess last night in Major
League Baseball. Will bring you sound and more from that.
That's all coming up in about three minutes time. On
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Bryson bian Nucci one of three nine and ninety eighty
three ESPN Back at It Bryson Bianucci eight thirty six
(27:53):
This morning, Thursday, August the fourteenth, Live from our downtown
Salt Lake City studios. It's Bryson Bianuci, Bryce Larceny alongside
Jordan bian Ucci. Just a couple of days away from
some football on sixteen days, three hours, twenty two minutes,
forty seven seconds. We got it down to the second
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over on espnefan dot com.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Just yeah, just a couple of days, a couple of days,
sixteen You can almost count them on two hands.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But my man's not very good. You could almost count
him on two hands.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
But almost count them on three hands. You could almost
count him on on the two hands. If you have
a horrible deformity.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That's funny. Eight thirty seven this morning, we're talking to
Major League Baseball. We do have a text or two
to get to at eight seven seven three five three
zero seven hundred one that came in about our previous
conversation that I do want to touch on this. This
this text message. Actually I've heard a lot about this
in the last couple of months, so I wanted to
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touch on this one text message saying, I think what
is killing high school sports even more dramatically is the
increase in participation fees. A kid should not have to
pay three thousand dollars to play football or twenty four
hundred to play baseball at a public school. You were
cutting off students whose families cannot afford a child to
play high school sports. That is wrong. I would agree
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thousand percent. I just texted my parents to ask him
how much they paid when I was in high school
to play football. Jordan, Yeah, you want to take a
stab at how much they paid.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You were in high school ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, my senior year was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I bet you what are they what? Eight hundred bucks?
One hundred bucks?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
My dad texted and said, I don't think it was
very much. Probably one hundred and fifty to two hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Are you serious? That's the way it should That's yeah,
that's how it's supposed to be. You into a public school. Yeah,
you're we fund that. We're host a fund that. Yeah,
based on tax dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like there was one year that I played accelerated Football NYFL,
and it was like six or seven hundred dollars. Well,
what is that it's it's a tackle football league before
you get into high school.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, so yeah, not your high school public school league.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, that we're we're look, we're just ruining that so
many aspects of what Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So one one thing that I was told from some
people that know is that some school districts have taken
here in the state of Utah, I have taken gate
revenue away because there were people that said, I don't
want I don't want to have to pay to go
and watch my kid play a sport. Okay, So they
took the gate revenues away, which made a lot of
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money for these schools to help subsidize, yes, ticket revenue.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
They made it free to get into the game.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, okay, you could walk right in and you don't
have to pay in some school districts, not all school districts,
but some school districts.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So that took away a lot of the money that
would subsidize and help pay for these kids to play sports. Yeah.
And because they took that away, now these kids are
having to pay twenty four hundred to three thousand dollars
each just to play the sport.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's so that's the dumbest.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That kind of backfired on the parents that we're complaining
about having to pay to get into the game. Well,
you're gonna have to pay anyway, because you have to
pay for your kid to play the sport. Three thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Now, would you like to pay five dollars to get
into the game or three thousand dollars? Good lord? What
that like? I'm all, the ticket to a high school
football game should not be more than seven dollars. It
just it shouldn't. Yeah, but yeah, that that can help subsidize. Yeah, seven,
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that's okay, and it should Yeah, and if you want
to go kids therefore, look, yeah, exactly, kids under ten
get in for free. Whatever. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And the students you just show your student card, student
gets in.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
For students absolutely, student shouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
To pay to do that, although I think it comes
out of their student in the beginning of the year.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's all screwed up. But like, what are we doing that?
That's why we have We've just lost We've lost hold
of the rope as to like why we have these
sports in the first place, Like why they even exist
in public schools? Why do we have athletics? It's not
to train the best of the best to get to
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the next level. That is not why these teams exist.
I just I that is so. So Now you've did
You have again taken a portion of the population which
cannot afford to pay yeah, three grand to play football
for their kid, which is a sizable portion of the population,
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and you've got okay, you don't get to participate in
this just because you don't have the money. Yeah, it's
just and I mean, man, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So really good text message coming through on that text
in line eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
Let us know your thoughts on that and more here
in the state of Utah on that text in line
eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred, another
text coming through. This is an incredible statistic. The Brewers
are seventy six and forty four thirty two games over
five hundred. They were thirty one and twenty eight at
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the end of May. In July and August they are
combined twenty nine and seven and have won twelve games
in a row and undefeated in August. In June they
were sixteen and nine. This means they've only lost sixteen
games in the last two and a half months.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's incredible. Sixteen games in the last two and a
half months.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That team is hot. But are they hot at the
wrong time.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's a good question. I've been thinking about that watching
him the last few days. I mean, look, it's never
bad to be hot, so no, but you're just hoping
you don't get cold come early October. It's funny. Yelich
win on and I I can't remember whose podcast it was,
(34:04):
it was today this morning. It said basically, he's like,
I don't know why everyone's surprised. Everyone just expects us
to be bad. Like everyone's like, what a great story.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
The Brewers, because you're in the worst division in baseball.
That's why that's good. Yeah, you can make an argument,
is there is there a worst division in baseball? I mean,
you've got the lowly Pirates, the Reds, Sales Central, the Cubs.
I guess the Cubs aren't bad this year, but normally
the Cubs are bad.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I go AELs, I think thee Central's worse. You think so,
because it's really it's the Tigers, and then the Guardians
are Okay, they're not, you.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Know, yeah, and the Cubs are better this year.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah's and the Reds are. I'd go the Reds and
Guardians are exactly, They're they're similar.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But traditionally, in the last ten years, that's been the
worst division in baseball.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's been a fight. You could get in the playoffs
with six wins in that division.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Sixty wins Mathematically, it seems impossible, but you could do it.
By rule Day had to let you in.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Falcons and Bucks get into the playoffs with eight wins
every year.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Oh man, no kidding. Just ticks off the L E,
the NL West. It just ticks off the Rockies and
the Giants and the potteris yeah, exactly. By the way,
you want to hear an interesting note, This is from
Jeff passon division leaders on June fourteenth. This is who
led the divisions in June fourteenth, NL wes, the Dodgers
led the division. Guess who wins in the N West
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on today August fourteenth, two months later, Potter's lead the
division different different and L Central. You know that different
teams and L Central.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I didn't thank you for clarifying, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Exactly, and L Central on June fourth, fourteenth, the Cubs
led that division. Today two months later, Brewers, n L
East on June fourteenth, who led the division? The Mets,
who leads it today the Phillies and then the NL
or make that the East the Yankees on June fourteenth.
Then today it's the Blue Jays, then the Red Sox. Yeah,
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Ale West, Ale Central, same Astros, Tigers, but but Mariners
right there in the West. That's pretty incredible. This is
It's been a pretty wild season as far as teams
getting hot and then teams just going ice cold. It's
been fun. It's been a really interesting, unpredictable year in
a lot of ways in baseball.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, it definitely has.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Here's another I got notes coming out of everywhere. Last night,
a certain team walked off their opponent for the first
time this year. You know who that was?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Last night? A certain team walked off.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
At their first They had their first walk off last night, a.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Team for the first time this year. Trying to think back,
did I see any walk offs? Was it? Was it
a late game that got rain delighted?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh, that's a that's a that's a good guess, I leave.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Was it the Seattle Mariners over the Baltimore Orioles?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Sort of? It was the it was the Baltimore Orioles
over the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Ah, I got it backwards.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, little Baltimore first walk off that we thought that
team was going to be maybe a you know, World
Series contender.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, at Baltimore Orioles team. What a disappointment.
Probably the biggest disappointment in all of Major League Baseball
is Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think maybe the Braves.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Who's the I was gonna say it would be go
Orioles one because the Braves just injuries. Yeah, like and
also that terrible start to the season. Uh, you're right,
So I'd go Baltimore biggest disappointment Braves number tw who's
your third biggest disappointment?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Third biggest disappointment? I'm thinking really hard, third biggest disappointment because.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I throw maybe the Rangers in there.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I'm gonna say, when the Mariners don't make the playoffs,
they will be the third biggest disappointment this season.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yes, when the.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
When the Mariners, it's bound to happen. Sorry, Mariners fans,
we all know what happens in the last month this.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Season exactly when they inevitably don't win a game in
September or that will be the biggest disappointment. Absolutely, Yeah,
I throw the Rangers up there. I think the Giants
are a big disappointment. I think who that's a good question.
I'll tell you right now. The Yankees are a huge disappointment.
It's brutal. Yeah, but no Orioles number one disappointment.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
They're right up there for sure. I'm gonna go back
to the Brewers and mention something because the Brewers they
won twelve games in a row. Now a local burger
chain has to give away free Hamburgers to all the
fans in Brewers Country.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's what That's what they said. Oh boy, this is
a chain that's been open since the sixties, and somehow
the Brewers, by the way, what's that good for them? Yeah,
they've been, they've been. They're hanging in there. Uh. The
Brewers have been around only since I want to say
seventy because they moved. They were the pilots in sixty
nine in Seattle. So the Brewers weren't even around when
they started like doing this. I read in a note.
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But the Brewers won thirteen games in a row in
eighty seven, and this chain gave away free hamburgers. Did
it in twenty eighteen, they won twelve in a row
now this year, and they're like, listen, we can't give
away Hamburgers tomorrow, but we will announce a date where
we can give them away soon. I don't know if
it's all.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Wosconsan it's like the Taco Bell World Series Free taco
for a stolen base.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, exactly, except you got to win twelve in a row.
Twelve in a row?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Are these real, like the real big ones? Because I
know those Taco Bell tacos were kind of they were small.
With the Dorito's Locos tacos, they weren't very like you know,
it's just one hard shelter.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, give me a full full hamburger, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Have you been following the Brewers like the pocket pancake thing?
I know, have you heard about this?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I think I've heard in passing that they have pancakes
in their pockets.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
It's a great guess based on what I just told you. Uh,
the Brewers, No, they were. They were interviewing Pat Murphy,
the manager, and he I don't know how it came up.
It's a great you know, but he's like, no, he
pulled a pancake out of his pocket in his uniform,
and the dugguns like, yeah, I put food in my
pockets because I get I'm during the games. They're like pancakes.
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He's like, yeah, they fold up real easy. They're like what.
He's like, what what else do you put in your pockets?
He's like pizza? They like, how do you put pizza
in your Pocket's like, well, it's got to be cold
pizza and then you just kind of fold it over
and you can eat. Know, this is the real thing.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Put pizza in your pocket.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
He has a pizza in his back pocket. He goes
sometimes He's like the best is when I wear a
hoodie and I have that pocket right in the sea.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
I understand that no dude has a pan, can't put
him in the pants pocket.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, dude had basically, because yeah, basic, if you born
baseball pants, they don't have pocket. It's in the front,
like they're just back pockets.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
If you're putting anything edible in the pockets, it's gotta
be something like a wrapped piece of candy. Yeah, And
if it's not wrapped, it's gotta be like skittles because
it's like a hard shell. You're not gonna get anything
on it. I'm just worried about what it's gonna stick
to it. Exactly where's he putting that polish sausage that
we can't be putting pizza in the back pocket. You're
gonna get linked stuck to it. You can't be eating that,
(41:25):
you know what I mean? Like, what if you had
some sunflower seeds in their previous and maybe some of
the shells came off, and it happened to me you
have a sunflower shell on a sunflower seed shell on
your pizza. He's gonna get stuck to the pizza. I
don't think that's you can't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I don't think he's worried about it. Listen, if you're
putting pizza in your back if you're putting pizza in
your back pocket, you're you're there are things in life
that you're letting go, you're focusing on it.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Sounds like pizza in the pocket. That's a no go.
I can't be doing pizza in.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
The pockets in his pocket and pancakes all right. Got
to see the Brewers nutritional staff is.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
On it. We got more from Major League Baseball here.
Little Mets and Giants are going to save it. Come
up on the flip side with it.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'll tell you what, Let's save it because we well,
I'll give you one thing and then we can save it,
all right. The Giants, the freaking Giants yesterday they lost
eleven to one, ten to one, and I mean, I
don't even know where to start, but ball Many Machado
hits one out to the left, Ramos plays elliot. Ramos plays
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a nice karm off the wall, bare hands it and
then throws it into the grass. This is our friend,
Dave Fleming on the call.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
The bitch Machado blast one the left field. Ramos is
not going to catch it. One hop up against the wall.
He'll play the karm Berrian style of then he throws
to nobody, and Tatiz, who had stopped at third, will
come into you're Ramos' throw.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I don't know if he got caught in between and was.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Thinking third and then picked up the cutoff man or what,
but his throat spiked in the grass and started rolling
towards left center field.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Tatiz scores.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
It's six nothing Padres and the Giants, it's just unraveling, man.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Ugly.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Dave Fleming, our friend friend of the program, Dave Fleming
on the call for the Giants on that one.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
We're gonna get Dave on in the next month.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
He better be careful saying unraveling. You might say the wheels,
the wheels have fallen off, and you might get some
mean calls.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
You get a call from Ramos's mom. Don't go any
don't go any college baseball, Dave, you to get cut,
some call from some parents.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
The wheels have fallen off.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The wheels have come off. You don't know what you're referring.
You got to explain to the people. Utah Valley a
few years ago was bad, really bad, and we call
the games and I said, there was a dude in
the right field. He just dropped a fly ball. And
I said, and it was a routine, Yeah, routine fly ball.
I just dropped you. This is the Division one athlete
and and this is you know, one error in a
(44:17):
comedy of errors. And so it was like the you know,
straw that broke the camel's back. I said, the wheels
are coming off here in the eighth inning or whatever,
and we got a Utah Valley got a call from
an angry from an angry perhaps an ebriated parent was
not happy with my treatment of how they're playing.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, that don't worry. The administration came to me and
they said, no, you're okay. It was pretty bad. They
said that was that's fairly They're like, that's fairly accurate.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
You're okay. Eight to fifty three this morning on Bryson
BA Nucci one up three, nine ninety eight three ESPN
The Fan. That's a little bit around major League Baseball.
We still got more to go the Mets. Also in
dire straits. We'll talk a little bit about the Mets.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Kind up I have you're not gonna believe this. I
have another great note on the other side, the Padre.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I do not believe it. I cannot believe that that
is the case with Jordan Bianucci and major League Baseball.
We'll take a break here, we'll come back our number
three coming up next here on Bryce and Bianucci. Stick
with us. The nine o'clock hour is yours on Thursday,
August the fourteenth, live from our Salt Lake City studios
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From Lovevell Edwards Stadium to Rice Ecle Stadium. It's time
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hour number two eight oh five on this Thursday, August
the fourteenth, Bryce and Bianucci right here on your radio
one O three nine to ninety a three ESPN the
Fan live here every single weekday from seven to ten am.
Some news coming down from college football that will tell
you about about Michigan along with a coach that got
very passionate about name, image and likeness. That is in
(00:41):
two minutes time right now. I have a question for you.
I asked you earlier on X what are you going
to do with your last free weekend until college football
starts up? This weekend is your last free Saturday before
you got Week zero the next week and then you
have football on consecutor weeks until February. Your last free weekend.
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What are you going to do with it? Well, one
thing that I could tell you you should do with
it is head out to Sansbury Park golf Course. Everyone
is talking about Tuila County's historic golf course Stansbury Park
Golf Course, and for good reason. It's the perfect combination
of challenge, pace and price. There's water on almost every
single hole, greens that roll true, and a layout that
(01:27):
keeps you focused and fired up. Jordan, I went out there,
played with a couple of friends and it was not
a good day for me because anytime I see water,
that's where my ball is headed. So if there's water
on every single hole, you can be sure that I
lost at least eighteen balls that day.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Bryce get wet Larson, so get this.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You could also play a full round without spending your
whole day out there. It's really fast speeds. They keep
it moving along. There's no long way, it's no overpriced
green fees, just pure golf. You could play eighteen holes
during the week for only forty five bucks, which is
incredible these days. I mean we're talking sixty four to
sixty five dollars up and down the Wahsatch front for
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eighteen holes with the cart. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
That's a good deal.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm a cart guy, So forty five bucks for eighteen
holes fifty dollars on weekends, that's a great deal. Right
off of I eighty is super easy to get to,
uh and it's starting to become a lot of people's
go to spot over the weekend. So head to Stansbury
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dot gov slash golf. All right, let's jump into the
latest news around college football this morning eight oh eight
on Bryce and Biannucci. According to Pete Dammel and Dan Wetzel,
(02:55):
the NCAA has formally notified parties tied to the Michigan
NCUBAA infractions case. That and an announcement on the findings
and punishment will be publicly released on Friday. So tomorrow
we're gonna get an announcement on the infractions and whether
or not Michigan is going to get the book thrown
at them. This is for the Connor Stallions signs stealing
(03:19):
operation situation. Jordan Biannuchra, My question to you, will Michigan
get punished by the nc doable A in the way
that they should. Will the punishment fit the crime.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't know what does that mean? You know what
I mean? What at this point? What is the like
what I don't know what the punishment would fit the ground?
Like how that works? Like what should the punishment be? Really?
Because the people that are there, I get a lot
of them are still there.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Black Harpa's gone, yeah, Connor Stallions is doing podcasts.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Now, Yeah, Like what what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What's Sharon Moore still the head coach? He was on staff?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, but like what is is it to punish those players?
Not a lot of them? You know, it's not the
same team.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I had the opportunity to talk to Andrew Gentry who
played on that team.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Did you ask him about that?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I should have.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
You should have asked him.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Missed opportunity. Next time, I'm gonna request Andrew Gentry again,
only to not even to do an interview with him,
just to ask him about Connor Stallions And if he
actually like interacted with him at.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
All, I don't even know. I doubt he did, because
probably not Stallions would come in and just you know,
do his own thing, do his own thing, get it done.
You benefited from Connor Stallions, although was it mostly it
was a It was mostly a.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Probably a defensive thing. Yeah, maybe it could have been
an offensive thing. Well, there was this wing, the defensive signs.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
There was a documentary on Netflix that basically walked through. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
He also did a sit down interview with Craning Company.
Our friend Ja Crane sat down and they had Connor
Stallion's on. They asked him his his you know, theories
and everything the way that he would do it Connors. Yeah. Man,
that's one of the greatest stories in all of college
football in my opinion, that dude. The fact that he
was on the sidelines as a coach for a different team. Yeah,
(05:12):
that's crazy, that's insane. That's dedication right there.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, what in what world did he not think he
was going to get caught for that? Like it's not
in nineteen ninety five, Like there are a billion cameras.
You don't think somebody sometime somewhere.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, that's just wild. That is crazy. All right, Well
we'll stick around there close to Big ten Country because
Northern Illinois, their head coach had a lot to say
about Nil. His name's Thomas Hammock. This is a part
of his press conference from the other day, Thomas Hammock
(05:48):
went off about NIL players transferring for money lessons that
he learned as a college football player, and then started
to go viral across social media. This is what Thomas Hammick,
the head coach of the Northern Illinois Huskies, had to
say about NIL and kids transferring out of his program.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah to me, I mean to be honest with you,
I love the challenge. You know. It don't bother me
one bit because you know what, in life, you're gonna
make decisions right. Sometimes it's gonna work in your faithor
and sometime it's not. I told our team the other day,
you know, we lost all these guys. Let's see who plays.
So it's all good when people put it on Twitter. Hey,
all glory to God. I'm going in the transfer portal.
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Let's see if they play. How many of other guys
gonna play or travel or get snaps? You know, I
was thinking I was gonna tweet something the other day
a picture of me and say, you know what, I
enjoyed my college experience. I didn't get one dime, but
the lessons I learned was more valuable than any money
you can ever pay me. And I appreciate that because
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that is long term. People are losing the fact that
this is short term. I coached in the National Football
League for five years. Five years, right, don't lose fact,
don't lose focus or what the long term.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Get your degree, learn.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Valuable lesson that's going to help you in the long
term of your life. That's the whole purpose. This is
a transition from being a kid to a grown up.
And I hope people don't lose focus of that. Everybody's
talking about everything else besides what is the most important
thing for going to college? Because if you going to
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college to go get a couple of dollars, you might
have just go get a job. This is too hard
to go get a couple dollars. Learn the lesson that
you need to learn to be successful in life for
the next forty to fifty years of your life. That
I would do it again for free, for free because
of the things I learned. That's why I'm standing here today,
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because of what I learned in college, not because of
how much somebody gave me. That's what I would tell
people and parents they need to learn that lesson too.
Stop trying to live through your kids, teach your kids,
what the order to think they need to learn to
be successful. That's what I'm telling my kids. I don't
care about no nil, no revenue share. I can care less.
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You need to learn things in college to get you
prepared for life, to be a father, a husband, to
work everything else. Those are the most important things. That's
what people are missing, in my opinion, just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's Northern Illinois head coach Thomas Hammock Jordan. He was
the coach of that NIAU team that ended up beating
Notre Dame a season ago.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, you know, he's not wrong. And what's interesting about
this is he's not talking or at least I don't
take it this way because the players that are leaving
his program generally are not going to LSU to make
five million dollars or you know what I mean whatever
he's talking about. Dudes that are like leaving, I bet
you to make what upper upper tens of thousands of
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dollars somewhere, And he's they may not get snaps, may
not get playing time. Because if you're I if it's
life changing money, I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Like it's hard.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
You know, you could arguably shouldn't pass that up. But
I think we I think, and I'd like to ask
him this, but I bet you a ton of the
guys that he lost got a little bit more money
than they were getting it. M IU, does that make sense? Like,
you know, not not. We're not talking life changing money.
We're talking like, I don't know, I'm just gonna throw
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out like, let's say, fifty thousand dollars, that's a lot
of money. It's not life changing money. So I'm I'm
with him. The other aspect of this is he mentioned
that like college is a time where you are like
you're you're learning new things, You're you're broadening your horizons,
you're trying different things out, You're all this stuff. The
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problem is, if you're a college football player, most of
them don't have time for any of that because they're
so focused on football. That's the bigger issue I see
with like major at major college sports, and we talk
about it all the time, is that he's right, except
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that these guys don't have the time to be normal
college students, and so they end up just chasing money.
And because he's not wrong, like the degree is more
valuable for most of the guys he's coaching than the
nil money they're going to get. But how valuable is
that degree when it's in you know, like whatever major
has the easiest schedule that fits with college football. Yeah,
(10:37):
that's that's a bigger issue.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I Yeah, I like what he had to say about
these players moving on whatever. And he also said he
likes the challenge. He enjoys bringing kids in and having
to go and recruit guys over again and trying to
make sure that he retains his team and different things
like that. But a lot of people like what he
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has to say because there are lessons to be learned
in college football and it's not all just about the money,
especially at that level. At that level, guys aren't getting
paid the big time bucks. There will be some dudes
that move on from that program to go make life
changing money. But even at other power for schools, there's
guys that aren't making power you know, life changing money. Yeah,
(11:24):
And I guess it kind of depends on what you
deem is life changing money, because I guess, you know,
getting a head start with one hundred and fifty thousand
bucks coming out of college, that's I mean, that could
help you out pretty true. Pretty well, if it's just
one hundred and fifty grand.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's no, absolutely, don't get me wrong. However, a college
degree in something that here's the thing, A college degree
or the college experience that is invaluable. And that's that's
where I agree with him. But as an athlete, it's
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hard to have that experience. But yeah, he's right, Like,
would if you're asking me, would I rather have a
college degree and that experience or just a one time
payment of one hundred grand? I take the degree in
the experience.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, go ahead? Would you like to hear? Mason Madson,
former Utah basketball player, he posted something on Instagram talking
about how much money he made throughout his basketball career. So,
Mason Madson, this is on his Instagram page, just one
of the reels. He posted it a while ago. He said,
how much money did I make playing Division one college basketball?
His freshman year was twenty twenty to twenty twenty one,
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said nil wasn't a thing. Yet he got about nine
hundred dollars a month the cost of attendance stipend from Cincinnati,
and then he saved most of it and bought a
two thousand and seven Prius for thirty seven fifty Okay,
and he still drives it today? Nice? All right? So
that was his freshman year, sophomore year twenty one to
twenty two.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
What year was the prius?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
That was twenty to twenty one, So he wasn't getting
paid nil at that but he didn't say what year
the prius? Two thousand and seven.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That's what I'm hurt. A two thousand and seven prius
is still running. That's what we're talking. Wow, now we're talking.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
His sophomore year in twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two,
his first year of nil, things got interesting. He said,
we had a three point dunk contest that paid everyone
seven thousand, five hundred bucks. Still early days in nil,
but fun. His total that year was twelve thousand, five hundred.
It was sophomore year twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three.
(13:28):
He transferred to Boston College. Said he thought they'd be
on top of nil since it was the ACC, but nope,
barely got anything twelve to fifty per semester CoA total
two thousand, five hundred. Okay, cost of attendance is what
he's talking about there. His senior year twenty twenty three
(13:50):
to twenty twenty four, Boston College was still behind on nil.
His fifth year is total only total to twelve thousand,
five hundred bucks. He'd he did say most of the
money that he made, or most of the money from
Boston College went to one of his teammates. According to
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Mason mattson fifth year, he transferred to the University of
Utah to play with his twin brother. Boston College coaches
told me told him his portal value would be anywhere
from two hundred to three hundred thousand dollars, but he
signed with Utah, didn't ask for more money, and he
got paid one hundred thousand dollars total in NIL plus
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thirty thousand in rent stipend.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Thirty thousand dollars in rent stipend. Yeah, good lord, living
in a penthouse, living on top of yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
In Federal Heights, just hanging out, thirty thousand bucks a
month in rent.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Stipe thirty that way, not a month, right, it was total,
I don't know it was thirty dollars. But even thirty
thousand total, that's well, how much my Yeah, that's a lot. Well,
you know, honestly, it's not that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, that was total one hundred thousand dollars in NIL
and thirty thousand in rent stipend.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Okay for masons, it's not crazy. But he's living in
a nice place though.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, sell one hundred thousand bucks, that's how bad?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But here's the thing is that that's a kid. I mean,
and that's a couple of years ago. Even he's said.
The crazy thing is if I came into college now,
I would leave with well over one million dollars in
my account.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well that's the difference between basketball and football, right, Yeah,
because with basketball, the market is ridiculous. Like the amount
of money guys are getting that are going to power
for schools and are coming off the bench is absurd.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Not even power for schools. I was told by a
couple of coaches that there were kids who averaged like
twelve points a game in a West Coast Confine in
school that had over six different offers of over a
million dollars. Are you paying a kid from a West
Coast conference school that averages about twelve twelve and a
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half points a game over a million bucks in nil
to go play for your team?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And what I don't understand, what I don't understand is
where they think that's like, why is that financially feasible? Like,
is that kid contributing to them bringing in that much
more money?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
That's why I'm said, like, I don't get where these
numbers are coming from, and I think it's mostly just
boosters thrown out random ass numbers.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah and kids.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Right, yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, here's the thing, Like, you make a good point,
because if you get a guy like AJDT Bantsa, who
is the number one recruit in the nation, you pay
him a lot of millions of dollars because you get
the marketing from that that equals ten times that I
mean more invaluable.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Like yeah, like you could not pay him enough at BYU,
you would Still the payback is enormous.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Is it that? The amount of primetime games, the amount
of graphics, the amount of media coverage exactly just publicity.
Apparently when Jimmer went on that run and is Jimmermania like,
it was upwards of fifty million dollars worth of free
marketing and advertising for BYU.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And that's that's the thing is with by that's a
very specific case because if you went to Kansas, it's
not the same because Kansas, yeah, you want him and
he's going to be great and you're going to make
money off of him. But you're Kansas. Everyone knows who
you are already. BYU, you're at a point where it's
like no one really knows BA basketball, you know what
I mean, Like BAU basketball isn't really well known nationally.
(17:48):
So it's you could pay him one hundred million dollars
and it's still worth it, right, But yeah, absolutely, But
these other guys.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
A guy that scores twelve point five, twelve and a
half points game.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Hey, good, more more power to you. But I don't Yeah,
I don't. I don't know. Wow, that's paying off for
the school.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
So Thomas Hammick, the head coach of NIU, that was
his speech about learning things from playing college football and
how he would not be there if he didn't learn it,
and you'd go back and play for free. He would
do it for free. You wouldn't ask for a dime,
all right, head coach of Northern Illinois, which.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
By the way, no, he wouldn't. You don't think so
you wouldn't take the money. They'd be like like, hey,
you're gonna have the money. He's like, nope, I'm ripping
up the check. No, you would take you'd take the money.
I'm not saying he would leave where he went and
like Joe Chase money. But don't say you'd do it
for free. I don't. That's where I'm just like, Okay, well, no,
you wouldn't do it for free.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's an interesting time in all of college athletics, that
is for sure. Eight twenty four This Morning on Bryce
and ba Nucci, Thursday, August the fourteenth. Hit us up
on the text in line eight seven seven three five
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on the conversation and am image and likeness playing for free?
Which play college football for free? There are some people
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out there that would play college football for free.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh a lot of people. Yeah, which a.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Lot of dudes that would be like, I'll do it
for free, coach, just let me get out there on
the field.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm not playing any football for free, high school nothing.
I'm like, oh wait, I get to ram, I get
to ram my brain into some other kid, like I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's actually crazy that I was listening to an interview
I can't remember who. It was a while ago, and
this was a dude that helps high school players get
nil deals. Imagine being a high school player and you're
making even just ten fifteen thousand bucks. I don't know
what I would do with fifteen thousand dollars as a
high school kid.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I can't believe that. I mean, those are talk about
financial feasibility, Like maybe in Texas or somewhere else, it's different.
There's nowhere in Utah where that makes sense for the school.
That's Buddy Garrity paying that money car dealership. That's the
(20:03):
there was. And I'm trying to remember who the guest
was on Cougar Sports a few weeks ago, they had
on somebody at high school who knew high school sports,
and he said that it would not surprise him in
the next few years if high school sports kind of
diverts from football teams being associated with their actual high
school and more like CLUBAAU teams.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Oh yeah, I've heard of that before, Bishop Sycamore.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, how depressing is that. That doesn't mean that we're
not going to have high school He's like high school
sports would become like intramurals. Basically, He's like the big
time athletes would play on these club teams. It wouldn't
be associated with the school. It's no longer sanctioned.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, well, it would make sense because there's a lot
of things that have happened in the last couple of
years in high school football here in the state of Utah,
even with the sanctioning body, the governing body, similarly similar
to what the NCAA going through.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, but talk about killing high school football and what
the whole point of amateur athletics is. I mean that
is that doesn't make you want to fill your pockets
with rocks and walk into the ocean. That's just that
is such a bummer.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
I just you've already got your academies in different schools
that are playing right now, Like I amg academy Bishop Gorman.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, well but yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know exactly how Bishop Gorman set up if
they still compete for state titles, but they just have
a bunch of national championship banners hung around that stadium.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Which, by the way, as a as a student, like
a kid going too high school and as a member
of the community, who gives an.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Ass about if you're a national champion?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, you know, what's that's not you know what I mean, Like,
don't get me wrong, You're like, that's cool. Did I
get to go to the National Championship with my friends
at like the University of Utah and see them beat
the town next to me. Now they beat a town
in Florida. Actually, they didn't even beat a they beat
a they beat they beat another another prep academy in
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clear Water that I've never heard of.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
All Right, There's also like Sunrise Christian in Kansas that
pumps out a lot of basketball players. There's another one
in Kansas City. Like, there's a lot of prep schools around.
And you know what, it wouldn't surprise me if now
that we see universities go away from Olympic sports, if
we see like those academies start popping up for Olympic sports, soccer,
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different things, and we go to more of a European
model where these kids go to like RSL Academy, which
is already a thing here in the state of Utah,
and they specifically go there to play soccer. They do
have a basketball team as well.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Though RSL Academy has a basketball team.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, I think they have multiple sports, so it's not
just soccer. But these academies start popping up where it's
a sports academy. They go to school there, but it's
really focused about getting that kid from RSL Academy to
play for Ral Salt Lake one day. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well look, I mean it's a j Da Bonsa and
all these guys go into Utah Prep. Yeah yeah, like it,
but but it is a it's a bummer like Ajda
Bonza did not experience what high school basketball is about
and what what it could be. Now, look, he's trading
that for what I here. I'll be honest with you.
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What I don't get is he's going to be a
great player anyway. He's going to be an NBA player anyway.
You don't need to watch Thatch Academy to get prep
acamy or yeah whatever, Yeah exactly, like so that I
don't I don't get. But these guys like you are
trading a once in a lifetime invaluable experience. There's nothing
like high school basketball in a pack gym where the
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people are right on top of the floor and they
care about the outcome. They're not there to see you
because you're this superstar. No, they they they want to win.
There's nothing more intense than that. It's more intense than
college because you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, that's the thing about those prep academies. Is that
a lot of times the athletes are the only kids
that go to the school. So you're right, there's not
a student section. They are the students.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
There are no home games like they're very like for
so it's.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Just really not unless they like come up with one.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
No, but there's not that that's.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right going after the Boozer twins.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Exactly when and that's not a rival, you know what
i mean, Like, yeah, there's no So you're just missing
out on something that you will you cannot put a
dollar amount on, Like it's just you can't.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, I think A j Evans will be fine though.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
He will, but that that's what I don't like. He
will financially, but he'll never have that experience. That is true,
and he's probably like, yeah, I traded that for like
hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Right, Okay, there's a lot of people that do that.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Well.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Then I'm like, yeah, that's fine with although with ag
I Bondza, I still don't really. I'm like, dude, you
could have just gone to a regular high school if
you wanted to, and you'd still be a great player,
Like you know what I mean, you'd still make hundreds
of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Just the way that, Yeah, there are some dudes out there.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah for sure, because he's a different that's a different dude,
Like he doesn't need you got prep to get him to.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
And part of that might just be because you play
on the regular high school circuit, you're not going to
be playing good enough players to get you prepared for
college and to be a freshman at the college level.
You play on those higher circuits, it's college players already. Essentially,
it's the Boozer Twins. You're playing against Bryce James, You're
playing against the biggest recruits in the rest of the nation.
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I think that is probably more of what they're going
after than getting the experience of playing. Here's the difference though,
in California, Like Bryce James, he played at a real
high school, Lebron james Son, both of them played at
a real high school, and they play for a high
school that still goes out and competes in the national
level and gets good games, but also plays in their
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circuit and play he plays regular high school kids too.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, and that that's.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
What in fact, their high school game got put on
TV over Seattle and Utah, Valley because Seattle couldn't put Yes,
you couldn't get ESPN in the building. That's right.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
They didn't have an extension court long enough.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Literally, come on, yeah, that's the that's the team the
West Coast Conference wanted to.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Luck. Uh, you need some install some more outlets. Yeah,
I mean, that's what I'm saying that like you can
have you, you can kind of have both in some
some instances. But if I'm a sure fire prospect, I'm like, dude,
I get one shot at playing high school basketball, and
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so I'm gonna take it. I'll make my money in college,
I'll make it in the pros. Yeah, but it's just yeah,
I mean it's sad because we will, you will lose
something when that, if that does go away.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
All right, we'll take a break here eight thirty two
this morning on Thursday, August the fourteenth. We appreciate you
being along for the ride. On Bryce and Biannucci. Coming
up next more for Major League Baseball, the Mets, the Giants,
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That's all coming up in about three minutes time. On
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Speaker 6 (28:17):
Just yeah, just a couple of days, a couple of days,
sixteen You can almost count them on two hands.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But my man's not very good. You could almost count
him on two hands.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
But almost count them on three hands. You could almost
count him on on the two hands. If you have
a horrible deformity.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
That's funny. Eight thirty seven this morning, we're talking to
Major League Baseball. We do have a text or two
to get to at eight seven seven three five three
zero seven hundred one that came in about our previous
conversation that I do want to touch on this. This
this text message. Actually I've heard a lot about this
in the last couple of months, so I wanted to
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touch on this one text message saying, I think what
is killing high school sports even more dramatically is the
increase in participation fees. A kid should not have to
pay three thousand dollars to play football or twenty four
hundred to play baseball at a public school. You were
cutting off students whose families cannot afford a child to
play high school sports. That is wrong. I would agree
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thousand percent. I just texted my parents to ask him
how much they paid when I was in high school
to play football. Jordan, Yeah, you want to take a
stab at how much they paid.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
You were in high school ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, my senior year was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I bet you what are they what? Eight hundred bucks?
One hundred bucks?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
My dad texted and said, I don't think it was
very much. Probably one hundred and fifty to two hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Are you serious? That's the way it should That's yeah,
that's how it's supposed to be. You into a public school. Yeah,
you're we fund that. We're host a fund that. Yeah,
based on tax dollars.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Like there was one year that I played accelerated Football NYFL,
and it was like six or seven hundred dollars. Well,
what is that it's it's a tackle football league before
you get into high school.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Okay, so yeah, not your high school public school league.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Yeah, that we're we're look, we're just ruining that so
many aspects of what Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So one one thing that I was told from some
people that know is that some school districts have taken
here in the state of Utah, I have taken gate
revenue away because there were people that said, I don't
want I don't want to have to pay to go
and watch my kid play a sport. Okay, So they
took the gate revenues away, which made a lot of
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money for these schools to help subsidize, yes, ticket revenue.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
They made it free to get into the game.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, okay, you could walk right in and you don't
have to pay in some school districts, not all school districts,
but some school districts.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So that took away a lot of the money that
would subsidize and help pay for these kids to play sports. Yeah.
And because they took that away, now these kids are
having to pay twenty four hundred to three thousand dollars
each just to play the sport.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's so that's the dumbest.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That kind of backfired on the parents that we're complaining
about having to pay to get into the game. Well,
you're gonna have to pay anyway, because you have to
pay for your kid to play the sport. Three thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Now, would you like to pay five dollars to get
into the game or three thousand dollars? Good lord? What
that like? I'm all, the ticket to a high school
football game should not be more than seven dollars. It
just it shouldn't. Yeah, but yeah, that that can help subsidize. Yeah, seven,
(31:43):
that's okay, and it should Yeah, and if you want
to go kids therefore, look, yeah, exactly, kids under ten
get in for free. Whatever. Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And the students you just show your student card, student
gets in.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
For students absolutely, student shouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
To pay to do that, although I think it comes
out of their student in the beginning of the year.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's all screwed up. But like, what are we doing that?
That's why we have We've just lost We've lost hold
of the rope as to like why we have these
sports in the first place, Like why they even exist
in public schools? Why do we have athletics? It's not
to train the best of the best to get to
(32:23):
the next level. That is not why these teams exist.
I just I that is so. So Now you've did
You have again taken a portion of the population which
cannot afford to pay yeah, three grand to play football
for their kid, which is a sizable portion of the population,
(32:43):
and you've got okay, you don't get to participate in
this just because you don't have the money. Yeah, it's
just and I mean, man, all right.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
So really good text message coming through on that text
in line eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred.
Let us know your thoughts on that and more here
in the state of Utah on that text in line
eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred, another
text coming through. This is an incredible statistic. The Brewers
are seventy six and forty four thirty two games over
five hundred. They were thirty one and twenty eight at
(33:17):
the end of May. In July and August they are
combined twenty nine and seven and have won twelve games
in a row and undefeated in August. In June they
were sixteen and nine. This means they've only lost sixteen
games in the last two and a half months.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's incredible. Sixteen games in the last two and a
half months.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That team is hot. But are they hot at the
wrong time.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
It's a good question. I've been thinking about that watching
him the last few days. I mean, look, it's never
bad to be hot, so no, but you're just hoping
you don't get cold come early October. It's funny. Yelich
win on and I I can't remember whose podcast it was,
(34:04):
it was today this morning. It said basically, he's like,
I don't know why everyone's surprised. Everyone just expects us
to be bad. Like everyone's like, what a great story.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
The Brewers, because you're in the worst division in baseball.
That's why that's good. Yeah, you can make an argument,
is there is there a worst division in baseball? I mean,
you've got the lowly Pirates, the Reds, Sales Central, the Cubs.
I guess the Cubs aren't bad this year, but normally
the Cubs are bad.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I go AELs, I think thee Central's worse. You think so,
because it's really it's the Tigers, and then the Guardians
are Okay, they're not, you.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Know, yeah, and the Cubs are better this year.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah's and the Reds are. I'd go the Reds and
Guardians are exactly, They're they're similar.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
But traditionally, in the last ten years, that's been the
worst division in baseball.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's been a fight. You could get in the playoffs
with six wins in that division.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Sixty wins Mathematically, it seems impossible, but you could do it.
By rule Day had to let you in.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Falcons and Bucks get into the playoffs with eight wins
every year.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Oh man, no kidding. Just ticks off the L E,
the NL West. It just ticks off the Rockies and
the Giants and the potteris yeah, exactly. By the way,
you want to hear an interesting note, This is from
Jeff passon division leaders on June fourteenth. This is who
led the divisions in June fourteenth, NL wes, the Dodgers
led the division. Guess who wins in the N West
(35:35):
on today August fourteenth, two months later, Potter's lead the
division different different and L Central. You know that different
teams and L Central.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I didn't thank you for clarifying, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Exactly, and L Central on June fourth, fourteenth, the Cubs
led that division. Today two months later, Brewers, n L
East on June fourteenth, who led the division? The Mets,
who leads it today the Phillies and then the NL
or make that the East the Yankees on June fourteenth.
Then today it's the Blue Jays, then the Red Sox. Yeah,
(36:06):
Ale West, Ale Central, same Astros, Tigers, but but Mariners
right there in the West. That's pretty incredible. This is
It's been a pretty wild season as far as teams
getting hot and then teams just going ice cold. It's
been fun. It's been a really interesting, unpredictable year in
a lot of ways in baseball.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, it definitely has.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Here's another I got notes coming out of everywhere. Last night,
a certain team walked off their opponent for the first
time this year. You know who that was?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Last night? A certain team walked off.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
At their first They had their first walk off last night, a.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Team for the first time this year. Trying to think back,
did I see any walk offs? Was it? Was it
a late game that got rain delighted?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh, that's a that's a that's a good guess, I leave.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Was it the Seattle Mariners over the Baltimore Orioles?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Sort of? It was the it was the Baltimore Orioles
over the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Ah, I got it backwards.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, little Baltimore first walk off that we thought that
team was going to be maybe a you know, World
Series contender.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, at Baltimore Orioles team. What a disappointment.
Probably the biggest disappointment in all of Major League Baseball
is Yeah, I think so, yeah, I think maybe the Braves.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Who's the I was gonna say it would be go
Orioles one because the Braves just injuries. Yeah, like and
also that terrible start to the season. Uh, you're right,
So I'd go Baltimore biggest disappointment Braves number tw who's
your third biggest disappointment?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Third biggest disappointment? I'm thinking really hard, third biggest disappointment because.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
I throw maybe the Rangers in there.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I'm gonna say, when the Mariners don't make the playoffs,
they will be the third biggest disappointment this season.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yes, when the.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
When the Mariners, it's bound to happen. Sorry, Mariners fans,
we all know what happens in the last month this.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Season exactly when they inevitably don't win a game in
September or that will be the biggest disappointment. Absolutely, Yeah,
I throw the Rangers up there. I think the Giants
are a big disappointment. I think who that's a good question.
I'll tell you right now. The Yankees are a huge disappointment.
It's brutal. Yeah, but no Orioles number one disappointment.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
They're right up there for sure. I'm gonna go back
to the Brewers and mention something because the Brewers they
won twelve games in a row. Now a local burger
chain has to give away free Hamburgers to all the
fans in Brewers Country.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's what That's what they said. Oh boy, this is
a chain that's been open since the sixties, and somehow
the Brewers, by the way, what's that good for them? Yeah,
they've been, they've been. They're hanging in there. Uh. The
Brewers have been around only since I want to say
seventy because they moved. They were the pilots in sixty
nine in Seattle. So the Brewers weren't even around when
they started like doing this. I read in a note.
(39:18):
But the Brewers won thirteen games in a row in
eighty seven, and this chain gave away free hamburgers. Did
it in twenty eighteen, they won twelve in a row
now this year, and they're like, listen, we can't give
away Hamburgers tomorrow, but we will announce a date where
we can give them away soon. I don't know if
it's all.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Wosconsan it's like the Taco Bell World Series Free taco
for a stolen base.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, exactly, except you got to win twelve in a row.
Twelve in a row?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Are these real, like the real big ones? Because I
know those Taco Bell tacos were kind of they were small.
With the Dorito's Locos tacos, they weren't very like you know,
it's just one hard shelter.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, no, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I mean, give me a full full hamburger, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Have you been following the Brewers like the pocket pancake thing?
I know, have you heard about this?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I think I've heard in passing that they have pancakes
in their pockets.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
It's a great guess based on what I just told you. Uh,
the Brewers, No, they were. They were interviewing Pat Murphy,
the manager, and he I don't know how it came up.
It's a great you know, but he's like, no, he
pulled a pancake out of his pocket in his uniform,
and the dugguns like, yeah, I put food in my
pockets because I get I'm during the games. They're like pancakes.
(40:33):
He's like, yeah, they fold up real easy. They're like what.
He's like, what what else do you put in your pockets?
He's like pizza? They like, how do you put pizza
in your Pocket's like, well, it's got to be cold
pizza and then you just kind of fold it over
and you can eat. Know, this is the real thing.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Put pizza in your pocket.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
He has a pizza in his back pocket. He goes
sometimes He's like the best is when I wear a
hoodie and I have that pocket right in the sea.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
I understand that no dude has a pan, can't put
him in the pants pocket.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yeah, dude had basically, because yeah, basic, if you born
baseball pants, they don't have pocket. It's in the front,
like they're just back pockets.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
If you're putting anything edible in the pockets, it's gotta
be something like a wrapped piece of candy. Yeah, And
if it's not wrapped, it's gotta be like skittles because
it's like a hard shell. You're not gonna get anything
on it. I'm just worried about what it's gonna stick
to it. Exactly where's he putting that polish sausage that
we can't be putting pizza in the back pocket. You're
gonna get linked stuck to it. You can't be eating that,
(41:25):
you know what I mean? Like, what if you had
some sunflower seeds in their previous and maybe some of
the shells came off, and it happened to me you
have a sunflower shell on a sunflower seed shell on
your pizza. He's gonna get stuck to the pizza. I
don't think that's you can't be doing that.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
I don't think he's worried about it. Listen, if you're
putting pizza in your back if you're putting pizza in
your back pocket, you're you're there are things in life
that you're letting go, you're focusing on it.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Sounds like pizza in the pocket. That's a no go.
I can't be doing pizza in.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
The pockets in his pocket and pancakes all right. Got
to see the Brewers nutritional staff is.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
On it. We got more from Major League Baseball here.
Little Mets and Giants are going to save it. Come
up on the flip side with it.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'll tell you what, Let's save it because we well,
I'll give you one thing and then we can save it,
all right. The Giants, the freaking Giants yesterday they lost
eleven to one, ten to one, and I mean, I
don't even know where to start, but ball Many Machado
hits one out to the left, Ramos plays elliot. Ramos plays
(42:36):
a nice karm off the wall, bare hands it and
then throws it into the grass. This is our friend,
Dave Fleming on the call.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
The bitch Machado blast one the left field. Ramos is
not going to catch it. One hop up against the wall.
He'll play the karm Berrian style of then he throws
to nobody, and Tatiz, who had stopped at third, will
come into you're Ramos' throw.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I don't know if he got caught in between and was.
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Thinking third and then picked up the cutoff man or what,
but his throat spiked in the grass and started rolling
towards left center field.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Tatiz scores.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
It's six nothing Padres and the Giants, it's just unraveling, man.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Ugly.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Dave Fleming, our friend friend of the program, Dave Fleming
on the call for the Giants on that one.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
We're gonna get Dave on in the next month.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
He better be careful saying unraveling. You might say the wheels,
the wheels have fallen off, and you might get some
mean calls.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
You get a call from Ramos's mom. Don't go any
don't go any college baseball, Dave, you to get cut,
some call from some parents.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
The wheels have fallen off.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The wheels have come off. You don't know what you're referring.
You got to explain to the people. Utah Valley a
few years ago was bad, really bad, and we call
the games and I said, there was a dude in
the right field. He just dropped a fly ball. And
I said, and it was a routine, Yeah, routine fly ball.
I just dropped you. This is the Division one athlete
and and this is you know, one error in a
(44:17):
comedy of errors. And so it was like the you know,
straw that broke the camel's back. I said, the wheels
are coming off here in the eighth inning or whatever,
and we got a Utah Valley got a call from
an angry from an angry perhaps an ebriated parent was
not happy with my treatment of how they're playing.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
That's unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, that don't worry. The administration came to me and
they said, no, you're okay. It was pretty bad. They
said that was that's fairly They're like, that's fairly accurate.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
You're okay. Eight to fifty three this morning on Bryson
BA Nucci one up three, nine ninety eight three ESPN
The Fan. That's a little bit around major League Baseball.
We still got more to go the Mets. Also in
dire straits. We'll talk a little bit about the Mets.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Kind up I have you're not gonna believe this. I
have another great note on the other side, the Padre.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I do not believe it. I cannot believe that that
is the case with Jordan Bianucci and major League Baseball.
We'll take a break here, we'll come back our number
three coming up next here on Bryce and Bianucci. Stick
with us. The nine o'clock hour is yours on Thursday,
August the fourteenth, live from our Salt Lake City studios
right here on one oh three, nine to ninety eight
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