18 - Carry That Weight (Sexual Harassment on NY College Campuses Series Pt. 3) - The Brolic

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It's always the same story. Imean, it happens out here too.
Even if it's a news story,it's still the same story. It's
true, that's true. I thinkyou and I might have been on the
phone when this happened earlier this week. But out here it's not just the
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no west than three times. Itwas pretty pretty incredible, and I was
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behave like a normal car. Andthen suddenly it's making a right turn across
fucking sidewalk, right, hitting curvesright. Yeah, I know. And
you can't really hear it coming becauseit's electric. It just whispers that it
sticks up on you, you know, like fucking a wind. Hey mama,

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make this little little slide in thatlittle red turn right on red classic.
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truck or the Silverado, but thensays, not good enough, not good
enough, we gotta lift it.It's gotta be even more noticeable. Oh,

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I actually have got to be.There's gotta be preuss that can go
under it. That's right, tryingto get a sufficiently short enough car.
We'll give you actually more more leewayon the highway, yeah, as you
have more escape options. No.I saw someone in a brand new they
got their brand new big ass truckU you know, like bigger than even

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your standard pickup, and they parkedit across two spaces right in front of
a store out here in two spacesin my Yeah, they parked a diagonally
across two parking spaces. I guessbecause they didn't want anyone to get too
close to it, or because itliterally could not fit in a spot one
spot. They needed the extra space. M yep. And they also needed

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to be like super super close tothe store, a grocery store. Yeah.
And you gotta figure if you gottaif you gotta like do this to
like get the groceries in the car, Like, oh I can't, I
gotta reach the tailgate. That's awhole problem that I actually just made your
life harder. Nay, didn't,because it's it's all worth it. It's

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all it's all worth it. It'sall worth it. To tell people that
you live on the thin blue line. You live die crying, I go
to bed. Everything you do ison the I don't live behind it being
protected by the police. I liveon the other side of attarchy. Yes

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I will. It is my picnic. I will eat all these groceries.
I am on that line, allfighting fighting back the communist lives while also
making sure the police never showed gotaway. That's the guy that I literally
saw, this really old guy frommy neighborhood. He's like one Republican and
he went up to this cop becausebecause the cops are always doing their favorite
job, which is watching people vote, just that one cop that sits down

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and does crossword puzzles while he's watchingpeople vote, because they have to have
a cop there with a weapon,because you have to because in case Ethel
bubbles in some shit wrong, youdon't know what's gonna pop off. You
don't know if you gotta take theclock nine out. Oh oh oh no,
oh no oh, I'll pitch.But anyway, So and it's always

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great because there's some people that taketheir job even if they don't have a
gun. They take the job.Wait too seriously because one time the same
guy also worked at the election thing. So I was saying one day and
I was like, oh, thisis gonna be a thing. The second
I go up to him, I'llsay, hey, I need a change
of address from He's like, youneed to change your address, so okay,

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come come with me. Come withme. He's like, okay,
here's what you do. You needto do this provisional they you need to
do this. I'm like I movedlike five feet. I mean, it's
so not But he's like, no, but here's the thing. If you
do this and you don't put likelike this guy's been this guy went to
sleep training for this moment. Yeah, like like he he's gone to bid

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the past few nights. Wait,I can't wait until I will be called
upon to figure out that to fuckingmake sure the provisional ballot. Okay,
So that guy, So he goesup to the cop and he's like,
while he's doing the cross world,while fucking the canal, he's doing his
crossrod puzzles just at its faith asfavorite day of the fucking year, votered
voter day. Just watch people andsit down on a wooden sharing a public

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school. Okay, favorite fucking day. He just knocks and goes you know,
you know they say, defund thepolice. You know what I say,
Yeah, what do you say?Refund the police? That guy lives
on the thin blue lick and hasa and has a lifted self, and

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he kept saying it is like eventhe cop was like, all right,
I get it, I get it, but yeah, yeah, but it's
like it's what old people, especiallyoh white people's like It's kind of like
this thing we talk about where there'sjust no social awareness after a certain point
in life. It's just like,just like you just keep saying it.
You just some people. Some peoplejust like all of it. Just some
people. I say, refund,refund the police, and it's like it's

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like, oh so painful. Theolder they get, the more, the
more and more they become like DJKhalid. Yeah, they they can load
exactly one and a half sentences inapplication memory. You look, one gig,
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up two gigs so far. We'regonna have to hold you for a second.
All right, we're gonna have tohold you. Memories started to you
know, man, he starts totake up take up space. That's one
thing. I can't wait for theretrospectives on that guy and how he anyway
we're getting we're getting defund it.But I just can't wait for someone to

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be like, yeah, this ishow DJ Khalid succeeded in spite of himself.
I can't wait for that. Didyou see the hot Ones thing he
was on where he was he didn'the didn't believe Melvin showed it to me
at his bachelor party. He waslike, he's like, now, Evan,
you have to see had his ownhad his own people bring his wings,

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and because he didn't trust that dude'swings yet to have his, he
had his own chef bring the wings. And then I shouldn't be chef.
And then they all they all havetheir own chefs. But it's like you
go to someone's show where this foodinvolved, usually you respect the food on

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that show. Yeah, yeah,maybe you don't. Even they've even talked
about how they order it. Theyget the waist for a pizza voice that's
supposed to be like down the blockfrom where they shoot it. Yeah,
it's like, yeah, but likeyou respect however they do the show as
long as there's nothing on it.That's like, I don't know, gonna
kill you. Like they you respecttheir methods. But but DJ call is

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like, nah, I gotta Igotta be the one this time to bring
my own wings to it. Andthen on top of that, he said,
after a certain point, he waslike, uh he the guy was
explaining Sean Evans explained to him howhow the show went, and at one
point it was like the first secondsauce it was like the first to second
sauce and it was too spicy.He's like, he couldn't do it.

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He's like he's he's he's gonna stopand and and but but it can't just
be that simple. It can't justbe that simple. Dj kal it goes
they put something different. You gotdifferent sauce to me. You got different
sauce to me. And Chandon waslike, no, it's it's the same
sauce. But and J, let'slet's switch. Let's switch. So they
switch plates and like he has Showd'swings and J anyway that if you do

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shit like that, that's how youget ahead in life and become CEO that
people who do things like that arethe ones that end up getting the big
books. And we're just people getthe wings down the block, telling the
brain the whole. Oh yeah,all right. Uh So in part three

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of this horrendous saga that is umabject failure on three. Yes, there
is part three, whole intro fifteenminutes. We have to laugh so we
cannot cry it how terrible we areat at any any form of uh abolishing

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uh sexual assault and eating gender equity. You know. So um we've been
talking about throughout the Quney system.Now I'm going to throw in some of
the private school. So we're gonnastart this off with the most famous story
and then get into the rest ofit, kind of just like reading headlines.

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So basically we're doing our own versionof both parts of the Dollop,
which is the Dollop and then thepastimes, So the New York version of
both of these. So please hearus give us money until then, allegedly
allegedly allegedly allegedly because we're trying tobring out as funny uh funny takes,

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but at the same time really importantstories that don't get enough attention. And
even if they did get enough attention, it was only on the post or
it was only solely on things thatthat like it doesn't get covered, like
it should get covered. I'm alreadymad, so um. Of course,
the most famous story is part ofa broader performance art piece called Carry That

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Weight, which many of us inNew York remember, but it became a
global piece, this beautiful, powerful, groundbreaking it. Really before we talked
about me too, I still feltlike Carry that Weight brought to the forefront
a lot of the conversations that we'rehaving with me too in the Internet era.

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To be clear, me too actuallystarted well before twenty sixteen. Toronto
Burke started a movement called me Toodecades prior. But we did not have
the Internet at that We had theinternet, but we did not have the
internet as it is now short time. We were still in like our dial
up days. But so I firstgive her a credit for that. But

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before me Too movement and the hashtag, the Weinstein story broken, all that
there was carry that weight, thatwas a performan. Uh. We were
talking about this last time. Ithink maybe we quot was it was about
the woman who carries the mattress fromclass, carries the mattress. Yes,
so, Emma, we'll just sayMS carried this mattress that she was raped

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on, which in itself is awildly daily triggering act to do. And
but it to me, it's insanelypowerful because what it's basically saying is try
denying this. Try denying this actthat I'm doing. Like you can say
whatever you want, I'm literally carryinga mattress around campus from class to class.

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Try denying it. Try denying thatyou can't see this. That's why,
that's why when people are like,well, why does Kaepernick neil at
a fucking football game? Because everybodyknows? Because he knows everybody's watching it.
That's why he kneels. He knowsyou're gonna see it. He knows
it's gonna bring up a conversation.So Emma asked, it was the same

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she knew and and this is literallythe most triggering piece of this traumatic event
that she is carrying around. Soyou can't make it any more personal.
Now, I don't I mean togo into the story. I'm going to
go into it briefly because there isparts of it that are important because it
goes into the concept of ongoing consent. This person is saying, yes,

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I began to have sex with someonewho I even had sex before. We'll
call him Paul, because this Paul. N Okay, so Paul, they
did have consensual sex earlier, andthen they started again. But this is
the thing with consensual sex. AsI always say, men act like consentual

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sex is this random abstract practice untila woman says, okay, so it's
Peggan time, right, because suddenlynow you understand that that's not what you
agree. Like we agreed though,so we we Pagans are good, right
because we because we agreed to sex. So if sex means everything on sex
means pagan sex means whips and change, right, that's all sex. And

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it's like it's like ah, famno, okay, so so wait bro,
then we do understand it. SoI've never heard it that way.
That's very good. Yes, Isaw it in a meme once and obviously
I put my own spin on it. But um, but in this case,
obviously one type of intercourse was agreedto, you know, vaginal,
but anal was not. And whenthat's the case, that is that does

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become rape. When someone says hey, I don't want this stop, It's
not like, hey, you agreedto A, so that means you agree
to Z. Right, That's nothow it works. So so here's the
thing. A lot of people won'teven get to that layer of this because
of layer A. It's like,well, she agreed to have sex,

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so everything, so I'm not goingto believe anything she says now because she
agree to have sex with someone,It's like, that's that's what That's all
dumb. It's like, well,uh, you invited him to your house,
so if he stabs you, fuckyou. You invited that kitchen knife.
You invited them to be stucked.You invited him. It's like,

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it's like even people who play baseball, you don't. You don't go up
to bat to be beamed in thefucking face, right, you go up
to hit the baseball. If there'san accident, there's an accident, and
then the pitcher usually even says sorry. But when pitchers are fucking purposefully throwing
balls at people's face, what usuallyhappens is that guy gets suspended because you're

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not supposed to do that, eventhough the game involves a baseball in the
bat in the batter. It's amazing. I always say, like, motherfuckers
can have the most. They couldplay World of Warcraft and manage armies,
but the second it comes to twomotherfuckers trying to have consensual sex as all,
oh wait a second, now,I don't know what that equation.

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I don't know what you're talking about. I could, I could fucking put
gorlac In in Spectacle five, butI can't do this anyway. Point being,
it's not that complicated. You askpeople for this type of shit,
right, But but people lost theirminds. You know, they couldn't they

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couldn't process this. They were believedbecause because the thing is like it's if
if you're gonna lie, that's sucha specific thing to lie about. It's
like why would you why why wouldanybody say, like I mean, is
this this is not exactly an easyway, like if you want to if

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you want to extort money from someone, you lay down in front of their
fucking car or something. Right,you don't, you don't do this.
This is the hard this way tolike if you know what I mean,
like like this is this is okay, great, I'm I want to get

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you know what, what little thisperson has in savings into my account.
So I'm going to invite like permanentinternet hate for the rest of my life,
permanent Internet hate and say he said, hey, mail people finding my
address. Yeah, and and whilethey're doing that, I'm going to carry

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something that is eighty fucking I don'tknow, I know, no legal resolution,
yeah, no legal resolution. SoI'm gonna that's how I just could
carry some that's like, you knowwhatever, I mean, when people say
there every day that someone's doing somethingfor attention, it's like, okay,
well that's one concern, right,But like most people do something dumb on

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YouTube for attention. It doesn't andit doesn't involve sexual violation. I don't
know, man. And also it'slike like she did everything after that,
like she made everything in it likeintentionally harder for her. After it's like

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it's like you can't. It's notlike she tried to hide. It's not
like the school really loved this.Yes, and that's why I'm saying she
she even though at first she didn'twant to report it. She didn't want
to report it because what the fuckdo they usually do? And and also
she knew that because initially what shetried to do is actually talk to this

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person, because initially, like Iread her initial accountries like I really actually
was friends with this person beforehand,and I just wanted to like get an
apology at first. But after acertain point it became this thing where the
you know, now the person islike trashing her. And now when she
when she's it came to her feeling, Okay, I can't get justice in

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the school, I can't get justicefrom the person. I'm going to do
this art piece now, but nowthat I can't even I can't even express
myself through art now because God forbidthat I go to a liberal arts school
and do something that's liberal art.I mean, who the fuck thought of
that one? Larry, It's allI'm telling you. There have been so

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many Larry Ray, just like DonaldTrump, Larry Ray, There's been many
Larry Rays. You're not fucking special. The world has been full of y'all.
It just took certain Internet phenomena foryou to get the fame that you
got. I do love that Larryhas become our our always gonna be a
callback, always, always gonna bea callback of the atrocity that is him.

(22:55):
Oh and his uh in his lackof uniqueness. We have to done
something deeply special. Yes, youknow it is in his weird, fucked
up world. You know it's justah. Yes, he's in neptitude.
His fraw raw in neptitude is amazing. He has he has this, He

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has this incredible ability to fail upwardsin a way not even upwards, just
like just in a way where apparentlyno one notices. Yet he don't fail
and survive. This is this isnot what this episode is about. But
yes, this is This guy isNo, it's because of Larry Rays that

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we have this ship. It's becauseof Larry Rays that even liberal arts colleges
don't take this seriously because they takean idiot like seriously, well they they
well, they didn't even know hewas fucking there. Apparently if they do.
Those otherfuckers were like they were walkingback the fifty year old bald guy

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every day. They're like, oh, that's weird data whites here like,
and then they just find about thebusiness. Every you have to understand.
Every ra in that building was like, what the all right, it's gotta
be someone's dad who lives here.Yeah, somebody's or or sugar daddy.
Um. So, so Columbia didn'tdo much. They you know, and

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they had everything. They had thisgender Resource Center, they have you know,
they have an administration, they haveTitle nine. Emma organized about twenty
three complaints and then there was aday of match, like multiple people in
carried mattresses. And this is anotherthing Emma did that I thought was very
smart. Some people then started postingthey said they weren't support, but they

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did with pillows, and she literallysaid don't do that shit because she was
like, you're making it seem veryeasy to replicate and like it's kind of
like the pussy has you know whatI mean, it's kind of like you're
it's she saw what the left,or not even the left, like the
Dems should have seen earlier with alot of the women's rights moments, like

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be careful that you don't end uplike white capitalizing this shit. Don't make
it like just for cute, likefucking hashtags and trends. Don't don't like
take the weight. It's literally carrythat weight and don't take the weight out
of it. So by making itlike hey, here's my pillow, I
support, It's like, no,no, it's a fucking mattress. And
it's supposed to be a mattress becauseit's supposed to be heavy, like the

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trauma, and it's supposed to besomething that's inconvenient. It's not supposed to
be easy, and and and likethe foresight and also the bravery to say,
even among people who kind of actlike they're supporting you, to say
that. I give her a lotof credit for that, because there's again
it's like effectively had turned down somekind of support, right. She Again

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it's like if someone wants credit andthey want attention, she's literally doing every
single thing to make things worse forher because she's actually believing in this shit.
Like but anyway, these dumb folksdon't see that. Um So then,
uh, what happens is the guyPaul, So of course he's getting
giddy at supporters and he's saying,you know what, I'm gonna countersuit on

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title nine. So he's the onethat actually ends up using title nine.
So so when you say countersuit shedid, she's well, she point there
was a point where her and otherpeople i should say, brought the claims
multiple and it was after she spoketo other people that Paul had dated that

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said there was similar behavior or otherkinds of abuse. So the guy has
a track So the guy has atrack record, yea. And then there
were other people including him, whosenames were written as people who were known
abusers in the school. They werelike written like they someone wrote them down.

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And and following that there was thishuge event. There was twenty three
complaints. There were people with theirmattresses. So now Paul's like, all
right, my name is going tobe out there now. Now I'm going
to sue her on the title ninegrounds. So the thing that usually the
person the survivor sues on or makesyou know, some sort of really big

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case on he's gonna do it becausehe's saying, well, the way this
is all looking, it looks likeit's very gendered against me as a man
attending college. Not what title nineI mean, it could be for anybody.
But Title nine is is that weall have equal rights to not be
discriminated against based on gender and havean equally you know, a safe experience

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on college campus. So he's usingthat, and ultimately the courts sided with
him. Goddamn that that and theyand even though Columbia didn't do shit really
and whatever shit that they finally startedto do and they did start to like

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have more resources at their centers afterthis, they started to make like very
small and cremental changes because they gavethem a list of demands that they wanted.
Um. But even after all that, they the courts actually said that
Columbia was going too far. Andmind you, this is a this is

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an institution that there were there wereyou know, scores of people who felt
they couldn't make a complaint, thatno one was getting punished, that they
felt they had to write the namesdown, that they felt that had the
carry fucking furniture out in the fuckingcampus to get attention. And yet the
courts are seeing now them libtards aren'tdoing nothing, all right and now and

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now I'm assuming now there's precedent forfor effectively the guy for the guy.
Well, if I'm accused that Icould always just lean on the very thing
mint, then I can lean ontitle nine, right, okay, so

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Jesus Christ. And then later therewas a settlements have very much of the
U that reminds me of the whatwas it the Triple P loans or something
at the beginning of the pandemic.Oh do you remember this? Uh wait
are you talking about? Um?The ones that some of the businesses took

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and some of the politicians could took. Yeah, because it was like they
put this effectively fund out there thatyou could just apply for and get government
assistance for you to keep your businessrunning. Yeah, But the people who
run you know, like small localto medium sized businesses would apply for it
and find out that like all themoney had dried up within you know,

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hours, because all the really bigstores applied anyway, even though they weren't
supposed to. It just took allthe money and there hasn't been like any
recourse for that to my knowledge,just the first thing that springs to mind
there. Yeah, so it ultimatelywent against its initial purpose, so that
so we paid, we paid taxpayermoney, right for really big business to

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be like, oh, they tookall the money and all the all the
money that we wanted our communities andyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
gone. Yeah. But I thinkthere's a few Republican congress people who got
it and never paid it back.I think, yeah, I've heard of
that too, you m in aminute, it's I've heard an update on

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that ship. I wonder that mighthave to be a ton episode at some
point, but it probably doesn't happenus to do with New York unless what's
his face Santas? Oh yeah,that George Santos whatever whatever whatever name he's
going by now. Uh. Columbiarecognizes University stood by the finding against Paul,

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I mean four Paul. Columbia recognizesthat, after the conclusion of the
investigation, paul remaining time at Columbiahas become very difficult for him and not
what Columbia would want any of itsstudents to experience. Columbia will continue to
review an update its policies ensuring thatevery student accuser and accused, including those

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like Paul, every who are notwho are found not responsible, shoot respectfully
and as a full member of theColumbia community. And there was a settlement
Columbia landing really hard on the onthe forced anal sex angle here. Yeah,

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thanks a lot, Columbia for that. Yeah, yeah, thanks for
taking an opportunity as a progressive institutionto at least mention that while this is
the legal proceeding, Columbia also wantsa students to know what the fuck ongoing
consent is or also so all thePauls don't get pegged, or maybe maybe
that should be the next thing,should Paul's get pegged, because then you

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will certainly see a group of menfighting for something. Now for the past,
now for the past times, allright times. Union sexual assault remains
vastly underreported as New York colleges,despite at New York colleges, despite legislation.

(32:58):
All right, let's format that onegreat um, I've done a word
good. I did an acronym thatinvolves all the first letters of each of
the words. It actually it's notlike what was the what was the one
spark and it had like nine otherwords that had nowhere in the fucking acronym.

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You can't just you can't just pickany letter from any of the words
you're trying to use. That's nothow that works. Don't try telling police
that scorpion and the efful words arelike easter baskets for the homeless. We
just wanted to sound cool. Um. So there's a twenty fifteen law ensures

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that victims are made aware of theirreporting options, including contacting law enforcement.
Oh, we didn't know about thatone, and pursuing other college the colleges
parties and and and the and thecollege is a judication process which, by
the way, remember the beginning ofthis process and a lot of at least

(34:06):
a lot of the Querney's is speakwith public safety, and we know public
safety that's handled uniquely positioned to handlethis situation, especially those who once wanted
to become the NYPD but for somereason are now here uniquely positioned to handle
it in the worst possible way.Great group, we have we have now

(34:30):
been. We have now been aparty. We have now been Sorry,
witness, I don't want to sayparty. No one, no one tried
to be a party. To this, we have now been witnessed to public
safety Keuney public safety handling things sopoorly prior that the mere mention of keuney
public safety actually makes a situation tentimes worse. Yes, yes, and

(34:55):
it triggers the thing you want toavoid. That word and everything that follows
it triggers a reaction just by thename before even show up. I think
that. I think that I thinkthat people who make fun of things being
triggering have not seen real world results, the real world consequences of someone actually

(35:20):
freaking the fuck out. Yeah,when some shit is because if you see
that one, you see someone withthe men, the mere mention of something
making someone want to throw the cellsonto some train tracks will stop you from
saying shit well, or you know, the fear for my life thing is
sort of it's triggered. I think. I think. I think when you

(35:42):
have to go to a trigger,you are triggered. I think so.
I think it works that way,not even a metaphor, just like on
head on. I just pretty muchthink you were triggered. All right.
So but those avenues just make ithomeboys, just make it home. Let's

(36:07):
make it home, all right.So Kingsborough you get the ID shift,
make it home after you make surethey're uh ninety pound antic fucking victim might
threaten us fingers on trigger's voice,we're getting triggered. And and make sure

(36:29):
that the semester sticker was updated.That's right, all right, don't be
a victim because if not, you'renot getting back to Basha, getting short.
Gotta make it back home to bemy wife. Heyt the NYPD,
all right, that's by their ownreporting. And I don't even know how

(36:52):
old that study was. It's noteven a joke. Uh so, but
those avenues can be traumatic, yousay, and offers per accusations a bias,
which is why those who work withsurvivors say it's critical of students have
access to victims services as a pathwayto healing. And that's why we have
signs that say, don't be avictim of sexual harassment. Talk to public

(37:13):
safety. We're all on the samepage here, boys. Referrals to these
outside organizations are still inconsistent, Accordingto Lindsay Cruising News director of Crime Services.
Yeah, I just got assaulted bysomebody and I'm just really in a

(37:36):
vulnerable space right now. Can Isee the director of Crime services please,
Yeah, I can make an appointmentthree months from now. It really comes
down to how the college or universityinterprets that at a law. That sounds
great, that sounds comforting, lookslike we got this consistency there. Congratulations,
This will be up to legal interpretations. I hope that brings you closure.

(37:58):
Legal interpretations of non legal parties cango interpretations, because I like lawyers
are doing this. This is sergeantBob who's interpreting this. Okay, this
is that an esquire. All right, wait, what do you mean he

(38:19):
does he touched your butt? He'strying to say he touched your butt with
what with? What? It couldhave been the corner of a book?
All right, well you complain nowback in my back in might day,
that meant that many liked you.You got a boy who likes you.
Isn't that a wonderful thing? Allright? Well, I'll put it up
alright, fine, alright, I'llput it on the pie. I'll put

(38:40):
it on this paper. All right, off, I'll put this in.
But I don't know when we're gonnaget to this. I don't know when
we're gonna get to this. I'llput it on the post. It on
her office. She's out to thelunch right now at the Trump rally.
She'll get back though. Don't worryabout it. She's in Washington. Don't
worry about it. It's fine.Yeah, yeah, there'll be another January
sixth. So even here in thecapital regions, schools very widely, and

(39:02):
how they interpret the legis all right, So this is about I mean,
I think they're talking about New YorkState as a whole, but right now
from Albany saying in the Capitol region, and of course that's the same case
here in the city. Yeah,not something I would want to vary widely
on whether or not you got likeviolated. Yeah, you know, should

(39:28):
be pretty consistent there anyway. Allright, Uh, let's see, these
are forty five upstate New York collegecampuses that reported the most assault ranked.
We're going down the list. Yep. Well, I'm not going to read

(39:52):
all of them, but all right, we got Buffalo the Wait are these
are these states? These are theseare just upstate? These are just upstate?
Wait? Are they just upstate?I don't think so, because I
thought I saw sorry, I thoughtI saw the city once here too.

(40:15):
Let me see, well, Iknow, you know, you know,
for a fact, people are goingto fight about what whatever the study determines
is upstate is upstate as well?Yeah, is it you know, north
of Albany or is it like Putnam? Yeah? Uh yeah, we're just
west. We're just west. That'snot fair. Of course, these um

(40:38):
small liberal arts colleges with like lookat this enrollment two thousand, two hundred
twenty. That's that's a fucking dithat's not even a division in a Quney
Hobart and William Smith, Hamiltons,these little colleges Hamilton, New York.
The enrollment of Hamilton, New Yorkis like five people less than the size

(40:58):
of Hamilton, New York. Okay. The fact that there were thirteen rapes
in one year, in one year, what that's a lot. Yeah per
thout even seven per thou. Ohmy god, that's so much barred Vasser

(41:22):
all these liberal amazing, so manyof these liberal liberal arts colleges. It's
almost like, well Vasser, justhaving been close to Vassar, we we
always had stories about that. Yeah, as a I've heard at the New
Paul's community. I believe most ofthe stories with that they with that they
were freaks and that the STDs wereoff the motherfucking chain. That's still can

(41:45):
be as still if you don't disclosethat shit, just can Cornell number two
number one not Man, the stockimages they use in for this are not
appropriate. Wells in Cayuga County,I don't even I know. Cayuga's just

(42:05):
way up the fuck there. Um, I haven't heard of welles. Wow.
Fifty nine per one thousand, that'sa lot. That's a that's a
big fucking number. Fifty nine perone thousand. That's holy shit. That's
that's a that's well on its waytowards one percent. Yeah, that's that's

(42:30):
half a percent of all people.Yeah, yeah, that's like, you
know, one in every two hundredthat's getting Isn't that getting close to COVID
number death from COVID numbers? Wasn'tit like one percent of all people?
Think about it? Just think aboutan auditorium that has like four hundred people

(42:51):
in it, right, So thenso then you already got two motherfuckers in
there for every like every time youassemble that have been victims of wild All
right, I wonder if I wonderif that's like, man, that there's
so many questions there, like isthat is that different people committing us out

(43:13):
or is it like one serial rapistrunning well, I mean the people who
I mean, I don't know.I'm I'm uncertain on the logic behind this.
Law enforcement believes that the way thesethings work is that it generally is
due to repeat offenders. I'm notso certain. I think that I think

(43:37):
both are true. I think thereare repeat offenders that we don't know about
all the offenses, or we haven'tmeaningfully investigated all the offenses. And I
think they're just some people who flyunder the radar because they're able to conceal
it enough, victimize people enough.So he was vulnerable enough, you know,
like the the Larry Rays of theworld. We're just able to get

(43:59):
away with it for a while.And our repeat offenders both Yeah, well
that's certainly Larry um. So.As of twenty twenty, Cornell and Yu
topped the list. So this saysof twenty twenty, though Cornell was number
two on the other one, butthat was older. That one I think

(44:20):
was twenty eighteen. As of twentytwenty, Cornell and NYU. So Cornell,
yeah, go ahead, No,I just I just wanted to say
I had my earliest experience going tocollege was this really really unfortunate, like
three day long orientation we needed toattend, and I never heard of any

(44:43):
other school doing that, And thatwas not fun by any stretch of the
imagination. But the one thing Iremember from those three days is having to
sit in a room just with twentyother guys, only guys, and one
counselor or acilitator sitting there who likelooked at each of us. He was
like, is rape a fucking joketo you? Or not? Like,

(45:05):
is this is it? Like you? You do you understand the gravity of
the fucking situation or no? Hewould just like sit there waiting, And
it's the only it is. Literally, I mean, it left such a
huge impact, you know what Imean? We need more of that.
We need we need that guy tojust get groups of twenty dudes and do
the exact same thing. Someone LikeI watched someone's face while they thought about

(45:28):
making a joke, and and Iwatched us. I watched the thought leave
the face they waited. They likethis guy's face, you could you could
like watch his soul recede into thebag. He was like, Oh,
this guy's kind of serious, Okay, yeah, yeah, because it is
serious. All right, Yeah,go back to Cayuga County and tell your

(45:51):
fucking joke, all right, havefun. Um. Yeah, all these
race I just I always go backto that, like, yeah, you're
you're a racist coming from Cayuga Countyon Indaga County. Yeah, saying about
how you were the first American here, I'm from Cayuga. First of all,

(46:12):
why do you have a Confederate flag? Well, they're not gonna open
with that. And it's like,well no, but they but half of
these guys haven't. But having theseguys that like the the upstate racist and
like and even even another country,even in countries, even though the counties
around the country, around the countrythat have like Latino names like Nate,

(46:32):
like the names of the counties aren'tSpanish, or the names of the counties
are are clearly after Native American tribe. It's like, it's amazing how they
don't sound. Realize they're not ridiculousthey sound they're not They're not they're not
here to be Why these are notnamed like Marshallton County all right, It's
it's like they're not they're not hereto have an argument about it. They're

(46:57):
just here to be allowed and insistthat, right, yeah, and to
breathe oxygen. That's about it.So anyway, all right, this is
a biggie. So two hundred eightytwo complaints amongst a campus, I mean,
I don't even care how many Cornellhas or Canal's twenty five thousand,

(47:19):
which is which is actually quite large. That's about all of City College.
I think. I think that's alittle more than all of City College has
if you include the grad programs andthe PhD programs. That's that is a
big campus. But look, Idon't care how many you have. That's
still two hundred and eighty two people. That's a fucking lot of people in
a year that are that are givensome sort of complaint. And why you

(47:43):
had one hundred seventy three at afifty two thousand still I mean over one
hundred, but over two hundred people, but state but statewide only sixty six?
Wow, So so those are justwait, is this okay? Is

(48:07):
this saying statewide? Is this sayingstatewide? All right? Posts, let's
let's you know, use the descriptorhere please? Is this saying statewide based
on these two colleges or this sayingstatewide, including in every state college.
Either way, you heard those twonumbers. So even if we were just
talking about NYU and Cornell, sothat's two hundred eighty two plus one hundred

(48:30):
seventy three. You know, we'regoing over four hundred complaints here. Only
sixty six students accused of misconducts statewidein twenty twenty or at least going back
twenty nineteen, we're thrown out.Okay, okay, now it makes sense.
So statewide, the entire fucking NewYork state, only two at Cornell
and one at NYU. So youyou heard those numbers just for Cornell and

(48:53):
NYU, and that was two atCornell and one at NYU. Two out
of the two eighty two. That'sinsane. It's like you're they're probably more
fuckers who got who got caught,like like cheating on digital electronics or a
fucking released now than this ship.I mean, it's it's grim, but

(49:14):
you have to it's it's it's alittle surprising to me that it isn't like
I said that, you know,my my school took it or seemed to
take it. I won't I won'tsay they took it seriously, because I
don't really know. I don't haveany experience with it, and I've never
looked into the stats or anything.But like just that, just that initial

(49:35):
talk was like you would you wouldwant a college to give that kind of
talk to its incoming students, right, teenagers with a ton of new independence
and all that shit. And it'sand it's crazy to me that these other
schools don't. I don't know what. I don't know what their investment is
in education on this sort of stuffor or prevention, but like it's always

(49:57):
surprising to hear that it isn't alittle bit more because past a certain point,
you have to figure this news isgoing to hurt us, right,
Like who would who would want to? These colleges are always trying to get
make it to the top of somefucking list somewhere, right, Every part
of it is like jerking itself.I was like, oh, we have
the best fucking basket weaving program inthe nation, number three on the Forbes

(50:21):
list of basket weavers, right yeah, but like you've been out of charges
too for these motherfuckers. That's butBut if if if a big name publication
wanted to put together a list ofthe college that people are most likely to
be raped or assaulted on. Right, that would be not a good fucking
time for the college. Right,So you you you're I'm amazed that I

(50:45):
don't know. I'm just amazed thatthey aren't in a race to zero for
this shit. I under I understandthat that's like that that's like a you
know, it's it's a pipe dreamto to have no crime on canvas and
shit, But like, I don'tknow, I just don't Well, they
could, honestly, they could easilymake it close to zero if they made

(51:05):
the complaint if they made the complaintantprocess harder. Because this is going by
their own numbers, Who the hellknows how many there really should have been,
right, So, but I alsothink that this has become a political
issue even though it shouldn't be.It's like it's like saying now saying shit,
like, hey, I hope ourdemocracy doesn't absolutely fall apart. You're
a Democrat, and it's like Ijust don't want, um, I don't

(51:30):
know, abject chaos. But it'sbut it's like to say that, yeah,
I'm I'm really against campus assault,and I don't like these ratios that
I'm seeing here with all these complaintsand all these people not getting expelled.
Well, it's like, no,you're just you know, part of the
libtard mafia who wants, you know, to emasculate. Man. It's like

(51:52):
no, I just don't want like, like again, it's not easy to
tru and fall into a sexual assault. It's like I just thought I was
buying her a cheeseburger, and thensuddenly here I am in a paper saying
I was grabbing some ass. It'slike, it doesn't you don't you don't

(52:15):
like blink and it happens. It'sit's it's it's a it's amazing that this
has become any sort of partisan issue. But yeah, Cornell two hundred eighty
two complaints, two expulsions, NYUone hundred and seventy three, one expulsion,
Sunny Albany one fifty five, fiveexpulsions, Sunny Binghamton one thirty six,

(52:42):
zero expulsions, Plattsburgh. I went, I went to Binghamton briefly.
That was man, it wasn't exactlya happy place. No I heard.
It's no, I heard, it'snot a happy town. It's kind of
dreary. Plattsburgh one hundred thirteen zeroexpulsions, Columbia one hundred eleven two.

(53:05):
Well, we ain't even get intodouble digits with any of these. Courtland
one hundred and four five, Rochesterninety two, Syracuse seventy nine, three
broom community called seventy one. Noneof these cracked five, and they were
mostly over one hundred and the restclose to eighty. And this is all
in one years. The top tenfor as of through twenty nineteen. Posted

(53:31):
early twenty twenty. Columbia University undercriminal investigation for its handling of sex assault
allegations against doctor Manhandy A pursuing criminalinvestigation, Columbia University's handling of incidents and
forming involving all right, so someof these I'm reading them as with you

(53:54):
for the first time too, handlingincidents and involving a former. Here it
is an ecologist accused of sexual assaultby dozens of patience. Y'll tire him?
Why this fucking christ innocent will provenguilty? Be? Why? I

(54:15):
mean? But can we hire someoneelse? Now? Tire him? God?
Charge Robert had in charge Wednesday FederalCourt in six cases with patients travel
from out of state for appointments andmenical offses affiliated with Columbia University. It's
a lot of people, budd Thatis a lot of people. And to

(54:38):
go against a doctor, I meanthere's already some you know, trepidation there
to go against These are fucking sixpeople, but now the prosecutors saying it's
actually dozens, including multiple miners.Uses Christ, fuck Colombia, why even
bother Jesus Christ. Hey, we'rereally hoping that this is fine, but

(55:06):
we were hoping for someone with likewar crimes in Kosovo? Do we do
we have can we get can weget like a war criminal, like preferably
maybe from Serbia? Or yeah?Does he have a paper in his pocket?
Does he? Does he? Doeshe that he can produce? He
needs to really enjoy I'm gonna say, abject human suffering. It would be

(55:31):
a nice to have. I'm justsaying, yeah, he's got to be
proud of it. He's got tohave the receipts. What you'll do here,
Columbia a job description make people literallythe most uncomfortable they've ever been.
M thanks for making Columbia Columbia.All right, Well, Columbia in the

(55:55):
news again. Uh. This onefrom twenty seventeen Distinguishers Storian at Columbia University
accused this month of kissing and gropingtwenty nine year old female doctoral student.
Steps down. All right, hestepped down. I'm sure he's still getting
paid somewhere. Lawsuit filed October secondManhand Federal Court against university and historian seventy

(56:17):
nine year old William V. Harris. So fifty years older, fifty half
of a century. He could kindof be studying himself as a historian.
At repeatedly forced himself on the woman, belittled her when he rejected the advances

(56:39):
ignored, took superficial steps from thewoman, identified just a. Jane Doe
reported doctor Harris's behavior. Email describedthe allegations as subject of considerate discussion and
discern and concern. Well, itwas enough time for him to step down.

(56:59):
Columbia is doing the right thing.They did the right thing. I
thought he stepped down, all right, So he's doing the right thing.
How nice? All right? Uh, let's see come on camera Cornell suspend
Cornell back again in the DMS.All right, This one's from twenty twenty
two. Cornell suspends frat parties afterreports of drug drinks and sexual assault.

(57:22):
Never heard those two things go togetherbefore frat parties and drug drinks. Cornell
University spended all parties and social eventshosted by fraternity after police said one student
reported sexual assault, further reported thedrinks being drug This is not even a
year ago, November last year.Uh wait a second here, the student

(57:46):
led into fraternity Council, which governsall council recognized fraternities at Cornell, made
the decision to temporarily suspend social events. So wait, let mean Cornell did
the student or the student like,because I was about to say, if
it's up to the fucking students todo this, that's stupid? And did

(58:08):
let me? And did they?And did they just do a slightly better
job than the administrations have been doing? Yeah, by suspending all that would
be that would be truly right?Right? Uh oh right? And the
Cornell universe, you know, it'sonly you know, it's even better than
the police, the Cornell University,the Cornell student led university police signify unit

(58:36):
division scorpion cap blue line. Uhlet's see. Oh yeah, no,

(58:57):
where do these fucks get? Youknow what? I'm not even gonna say,
of course, the whining Cornell isgonna sell hit No of course it's
someone in the fucking alleys, andif the cup probably makes their money that
way. I have never I justdon't know where. I don't I don't
I am. I am truly oneof the last people anyone would come to

(59:20):
for drugs or where to get them. But even with what limited knowledge I
have and what a few people I'veknown who do drugs, I don't think
those people know how to get well. Like, That's what I'm saying,
Like, you gotta be a sickfuck like you gotta be the type of
person who wants that is. Yeah, that that is that is like the

(59:42):
earliest. That is the earliest fuckingsign that some shit is going wrong.
I mean looking for it obviously,right, but like committed to getting it,
Yes, is really a big deal. You don't just have it.
No one just has Again, youdon't trip in farms like but I thought
was fucking Ricola Battle's robuts us andhow did how did I get the hips?

(01:00:12):
All? Right? Uh? Cornellback at it again? Must face
ex professor's lawsuit overskewed sexual Oh ohso fighting back here? Let's see why.
Let's see how are we fighting backagainst it? Uh? Is this
is this the the the guy whofucked up? Is he the is he

(01:00:37):
the the assailant? Is he fightingback? Yes? Yeah? Okay,
okay, um oh, we're gonnaget a name right here. I hope
you're ready for this name. Okay, So, Federal Appeals court rule the
former system professor of physics can sueCornell University for gender discrimination overclaims that it

(01:00:59):
disciplined him foul a skewed investigation untila female's harassment claims against him. Second
Circuit Court of Appeals revived. Getready, mccund veelator. So I thought,
what the fuck is this person from? I thought it first you were

(01:01:22):
agoing eastern Europe and then we've gotvery Italian. We're just I didn't I
didn't know. I didn't know wherewe were gonna land it generally geographically until
the second half of the last name, like, like, is the thing?

(01:01:45):
Bro? You best be innocent becauseain't nobody forget that it's not Bob
Jones, it's maucund. What likeyou gotta you gotta be so innocent and
fucking invent a fucking missile silo ifyou want to overcome this one. Oh

(01:02:13):
my god, hold, I thinkI found there, there's definitely only one
doctor. All right, Seriously,where the fuck is this guy from?
What is that name? Literally,what is that name? There's a there's
a doctor. There's a doctor mccunvengelatore who was hired uh by DARPA in

(01:02:34):
May of twenty twenty two. Thatprobably they're more than one of these.
The next month, the next month, mister DARPA would have been in court
because this is June twenty twenty two, so he was hired by DARPA a
month before. Unless there's unless there'smore than one, unless there's a vengelatory

(01:02:59):
empire. And mccuns um so,the judge in the case says that there's
an example of a disturbing trend ofthreats to due process. Damn. Wait
a minute, university faculty, waita minute. I'm sorry, I believe
that guy is on YouTube. BelieveI believe he's in a YouTube video.

(01:03:22):
Okay, I'm just I'm just alittle amazed at he Okay, sorry,
my internet is now taking its turnwith freaking the fuck out. Oh I'm
sorry, it's it's not it's cuneyTV. Oh yeah yeah, an episode
of two In episode two or fourof Science goes to the Movies series.

(01:03:43):
Co host Doctor Heather Berlin and FaceSiey are joined by mccun vangulatory, atomic
physicist and assistant professor of physics atCornell University to talk about quantum physics in
the British sci fi show Doctor Who. So they ultimately conclude did uh,
mister vengulatory didn't rape the student,but that the secret consensual relationship was a

(01:04:06):
violation um and I'm sure there wereno power dynamics there. So even so
at this point he's like, allright, you know, inappropriate consensual relationship.
I'm still gonna sue like like youknow how like if you're if you're
gonna like, you know, howarrogant you gotta be at this point to

(01:04:29):
come out like Ball's blazon with themccun vengulatory in the courtroom s Sam that
you basically it's known you'd had sexwith someone that's your student and this much
younger in your power over them,and you're saying, yeah, I want
more attention. Well this but thisis what this is what I was talking
about from that first mention of howthe we're using Paul. I don't know

(01:04:53):
if that's his real name, butPaul countersues. His name is his real
name is Paul. Yeah, Imean, did Dad effectively open the floodgates
for this sort of like past acertain point. It's almost as if I
wonder if his lawyers were like,actually, would make more sense for you
to get something out of this now? Right? Probably? Right? Because

(01:05:14):
if because now, if there's precedentfor it, right and if his if
his name is already out there ona bunch of news sources and he's not
winning money, then you might aswell start winning money. You might as
well countersuit against the college to seeif you can get literally anything from them,
right right, I mean, it'samazing how how you must feel so

(01:05:35):
oppressed to feel that, yeah,I can now go and sue a countersuit
and get money based on this,Like, if you feel truly that oppressed,
you don't feel empowered to do anyof this, bud And no,
but what but what But what I'msaying is no, but I know I'm
saying these professors like clean, they'reso oppressed. Well yeah, but I

(01:05:58):
think, but I think that's partof what are told to do as part
of like exactly but also but alsowe've you know, I'll play devil's advocate
against myself. Here. The firstepisode we did on this, this motherfucker
is sitting there texting that he's gota pre a prism, he's got he's
got a direction lasting like six straightfucking gallers that won't go away. Um,

(01:06:23):
and you know, suspension a semester. Sometimes motherfuckers are are that shitty
at this? Yes? Yes,sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's not about
the tactical decision that just makes sensebecause your lawyers tell you too. Sometimes
you just do things because you're you'rea fucking idiot. No, or you

(01:06:43):
think I can have sex with anyoneI want because I have a heart condition.
Um, that guy too, rememberI actually don't. I actually don't
remember. That detail was that itwas another case. It was another case.
The guy brought the student and saidI could come so much as money,
waking out my fucking ears. Justremember he said he got her to

(01:07:04):
her house and wanted to give herwine and said showed her the scar and
was like, oh my god,I forgot about that. I'm going to
die and I have problems with mywife. Please fuck and I will pass
you on quit and you know what, you know what you know what,
I don't know that that is goingto settle your hard condition. I think

(01:07:25):
that I think that having sex rightnow will will actually undo what little time
you may have left. Oh God, anyways, Um, another student was
brave enough to talk about her experiencein front of many people. Um,
and this is the beginning of twentytwenty two. At University Nebraska and Lincoln,

(01:07:49):
Hannah Johnson stood on the steps ofstudent union and told everyone on kid,
like, this is what students needto put themselves through, this like
a reliving of this traumatic experience infront of all these people. Like they
can't even have the luxury of justgoing to a therapist and talking about this.

(01:08:10):
They have to do all this,carry the fucking mattress. They have
to go on the steps of astudent union front of just on a mic
and say, because if I don'tdo this, it won't get the attention,
Like this is the type of shitI need to do to get people
to care, to get pressure puton the administration. And after all that
most of the time nothing even happens. Ah, but she's doing it for

(01:08:32):
money. Yeah, she's doing itto be it's more dat not there was
money debt. Now now there's socialdebt. Yeah, money m but she
reported it though, of course tothe very very competent University of Nebraska Lincoln

(01:08:53):
Police, and they must be onmy optimum because now everything froze. Um,
so let's see what did what didyou? U? And L do
you? Okay? Now, let'slet's just move them out. Let's just

(01:09:14):
let's just move the text around thepage. Let's just have a jump around.
I have a jump around. Yeah, let's see Betsy Divos face again
because that's what I want to see. All right, all right, go
down, all right, yeah,alright, optimum. Yeah, let's let's
pause all operation right now, rightnow, let's do it. Let's do

(01:09:36):
it. We only we only paythem, you know or whatever. Um,
okay, so you n L PoliceDepartment and Office of Institutional Equity and
Compliance, so you know they willdo all of those things. Because if
there's anything this podcast, the dollup and the news that showed us when

(01:09:59):
you name it off, is somethingthat specific they're gonna do, it's gonna
fucking each one of those things andput it in an acronym that makes total
sense. They're gonna do some equity, They're gonna do some compliance. Motherfucker.
They might even do some office andand so she took so they handled
the Title nine investigations. All right, we're in the right place. It

(01:10:20):
was a zoom hearing between her andher alleged assailant. He's in the zoom.
Okay, wait a minute, Waita minute, I think that you
know what, this just sounds likea really big misunderstanding. So can we
just get the two of you ona call real quick? And I'm sure
he can explain that you weren't punchedin the face thirteen times. I'm sure

(01:10:42):
that's not actually how that happened.Um, And the case was closed with
the Title nine committee, of course, deeming her party was not responsible.
There was a there was a therewas a brief moment while we were waiting
for the page to load on yourside. I'm saying that because I don't
know if you're gonna cut that outor not. U where I was like,
well, you know, Evan endedthat segment technically with into the page

(01:11:09):
load part with let's see what theNebraska police or about Nebraska? Was it?
Yeah, Nebraska, Lincoln, youknow, the city up Nebraska.
And I was like, you know, we shouldn't we shouldn't you know,
I've been who knows, maybe theygot maybe they got some real competent people,
or maybe they got some real competentpeople in the Office of Compliance and

(01:11:30):
Inequity. Yeah, man, andboy do I feel dumb? Well,
so what happened is she heard againsomeone gets raped on campus and and of
course they this office did amazing thingsto prevent and create awareness for these types
of things. So, um,someone else was raped at the five Gamma

(01:11:55):
Delty fraternity house, best known byits nickname Fiji Cool. The assault had
been reported. Uh, and therequest for public records were denied. Cool.
That's always, as always a bigstep in Uh huh. That's why

(01:12:16):
they're public records, so they canbe denied. You asked publicly and we
denied. Yeah. Uh, italready had a reputation. We yeah,
your public request. Uh. Soapparently the Fiji House, as as my

(01:12:43):
laptop dies because it also has noBut it's okay, I have I have
a few thoughts in the chamber.Um. So, apparently the Fiji House
is known prior to this for beinga place also like, I you know,
great name the Fiji House in Nebraska. I'm I'm thinking that trying to
class up the place a little.Yeah, this is gonna be Yeah,

(01:13:04):
this already sounds like it's going tohave a great reputation. It had so
Yeah, it had a reputation forthis type of stuff, and clearly the
investigative authorities. You know, it'dbe great if there was a campus police
that could like do investigations intoday.That's like, that's like a known It's
just crazy, how like this onebuilding seems to produce a lot of people

(01:13:26):
who insist on things that didn't happen. You know, it's like wild,
It's like a horror movie. Thisone little house just gives us so much
paperwork that doesn't do anything because we'renot gonna do anything about the paper already.
I know. It's it's like,you know, God, it's we're

(01:13:48):
so fucking oppressed. Man, can'twait till thirty thirty when I can leave
for the day. Yeah, thinblue line treating us like animals. Yeah,
my silverado, um so while mybattery h charges and will last for

(01:14:15):
a few minutes. Um all right, here we go. Had a reputation
among the students. I've being unsafe. We're looking at your left shoulder right
now, sir, nice, okay, uh, In fact, it had
only did it? Did it dieagain? Or are we waiting waiting for

(01:14:40):
the charge to cork up? Everytime you hit that space far you trained
two and a half percent battery ofmy life two and a half percent the
battery as the end of my life. Yep, yep, yeah. All

(01:15:08):
right. Well, um, let'ssee by the time where this loads up
again, there'll be Maco's thirteen.Good good. Um. So this uncomfortable

(01:15:30):
silence in the final edit, perhapswe can we can guess, um how
the police reacted to the complaints.What what I think probably happened is that
half of their kids are in thefrat. But maybe that's jumping a bit.
It's not like in a small notsmall, but it's not like in

(01:15:54):
Nebraska. Well they I mean,they don't need to school. All the
kids are just going to join theforest. They don't have to go to
school. Right. Oh, ithad only emerged. Oh wow, it
must have done some shit because itactually did get suspended. That house had
a three year suspension. Wow,so they must have done something. Oh,

(01:16:18):
probably because they felt emboldened enough tochant no means yes to protesters.
I remember at the Winnen's march inLincoln, the Bresk. Wow, you
know, actually there's a few.I've seen a few of these ridiculous protests

(01:16:39):
by the Frats. There was one. It was either Yell at Harvard,
one of those esteemed institutions, wherethe students covered themselves in white sheets.
Already, we're not off to agood start. Start enough great, and
these are kids were clearly smart,though they'll claim they had had nothing to
do with the KKK. And howcould you even like, I didn't know

(01:17:00):
that here, I'm ignorant. I'mignorant. I'm in Harvard. Why would
I would I know? Why wouldI know things just because I'm in a
top one percent skull? Yeah?Yeah, so what it was either Harvard?
Yeah, and they so they coveredthemselves in cheats. They went outside
the students dorms, that the women'sstudents dorms, and they said no means
yes, yes means anal And ina very eerie foresight. That tells you

(01:17:27):
and even though this happened, thefirst story happened at Columbia, that tells
you the mind of a lot ofmen. It's like this, they didn't
even know about Emma. I don'teven I don't even know if I forget
if that that thing happened, um, either before after, But it still
goes to show you that in alot of the mind of these guys that
yes means that that's not random,that's saying that's that's exactly the mindset that

(01:17:51):
this guy had that she was talkingabout. That yes means that's it.
I can do whatever I want.But anyway, so they were fresh office
through your suspension, and the reasonthey were suspended had to do about obviously
a masterful understanding of consent. Sono no related behavior here, uh hazing,

(01:18:15):
reckless alcohol use, all right,well everything we expect um, Okay,
So let's see in secret meeting,NYU defends potential hiring a research or
accuse of sexual misconduct. NYU leadershave gone to extraordinary lengths to defender research

(01:18:40):
accused sexual misconduct, acting as afunctional PR team for him to their own
community. Interesting. Yeah, Isaw a lot of protests about this guy.
Another Italian. We are just strikingout on the Italian last names lately,
David Sabbatin. Yeah, yeah,but last you know, like maybe
I see that last name was Italianand the other half I don't know.

(01:19:02):
That was basically feeds from that seventiesshow. Just ambiguous. You could you
could not find a more ambiguous name. Literally where that's where the nation of

(01:19:24):
mccund in east just say, ifyou if you damn it, if you
gave me just mkund, I'd belike, Okay, maybe I could come
up with like a short list often nations. And I think that name
could come from. And then therest of the his surname comes barrowing through
like a like a train off thefucking rails, and it's like, wow,

(01:19:45):
where are we going today the world? This is extra terretorial. Now,
oh my god, it is funny. It is? It is not
funny? Uh the other what thefun Okay? Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought I've lost my dogative verycontained room here oh here. This week

(01:20:11):
I was looking up um, Iforgot. I forgot how I got to
it. I think I was lookingup some I don't know, some some
important figure or something in the worldof programming. Uh. And I wented
on the page for uh this guyuh named Eric S. Raymond? And

(01:20:31):
and my gotten that right? Ibelieve I am. I shouldn't just randomly
forget his name. Let me justdouble check. Yeah, Okay, So
eric As Raymond is like eric AsRaymond is like legendary. He's he's written
so much of the important shit.If you if you've ever used a GPS

(01:20:55):
literally ever, his code probably runsthe GPS like he was just one of
the first people to write shit likethat. His his shit is everywhere and
on the surface, right, atleast what he presents about himself. He's
a smart guy. He's been workingon I don't know, all kinds of

(01:21:16):
open source software for ages. He'syou know, fucking maybe first red Flag.
He's like a big libertarian, buthe's like, look, personal rights,
like gotta whatever, all right,they're they're out there definitely in programming.
And then you get you get tothe part of his Wikipedia page where
it's like controversies and and it's thatI actually, I don't even think it's

(01:21:41):
that long. It's just like itgoes from being like, hey, this
guy, you know he um hedeveloped I believe, cerebral palsy at a
young age. He found an escapein computers. Yeah, he's put his
he's putting you know, his hislife's work is is making making shit of
it, like free as in theright to use us and shit like that,
right, and then you crack openhis twitter, his blog, and

(01:22:06):
it's like, I believe that.The thing anyway, the thing that I
noticed that that came to mind herewas that at some point he was he
called uh, he called the AdaFoundation and other women in tech groups.
Um. He basically accused them ofcreating a pipeline of getting women who were

(01:22:29):
not previously at all interested in techdown the pipeline to accusing people in tech
of having men in tech of havingdone some kind of actual misconduct. And
and it was just like, ohmy god, what the fuck? It
was just like Eric, what thefuck are you talking about? Right now?

(01:22:50):
Right? Like Eric, all right, girl, stick to stick to
writing see and doing graph theory onWinnis packages for sure, Like definitely never
air this this opinion out ever again, Like I just don't. I don't,
you know what, It's kind ofgood he did, because now we
know, see, I'm like tornif it's even better for society. This

(01:23:15):
is what I'm This is what I'msaying. I know you and I have
have touched on this in the groupchat before, and it's a it's a
topic in programming fail loudly for sure, Like, like, if you believe
this shit, let the room knowso that we do not invite you to
the next party. I want tohear about it so that you are going
Do you do you understand the levelsof conspiracy this man is talking about.

(01:23:40):
He's he's basically saying like women arerecruited, like you know, like from
fucking high school. Hey, State'sUh you like to code? Yeah?
Okay, cool? Um? Doyou like accusing men shit that they didn't
do as well? Do you likeas much as you liked code? What?

(01:24:01):
It's just, it's just it's likeit's like, listen, I I'm
sure they look there's I'm sure there'sa lot of shit that goes wrong in
the programming world. It's people arepeople everywhere. I'm sure there's plenty of
sexual misconduct. Matter of fact,you can look at almost any you can
look at almost the news. Aroundalmost any game developers conference. I think

(01:24:25):
it typically happens here in San Francisco. Uh, And there's always some shit
where it's like way we you know, it's like a bunch of people discussing
a really passionate trade and then theygo to a party afterwards and drinks are
spiked and people get fucking felt upand and and assaulted and ship when they
really didn't want that. Yeah,right, And and so I don't I

(01:24:51):
don't think we don't. We don'tneed like you don't have to funnel people
in to make more accus that.There's plenty of accusations happening, you know
what I mean, Like like there'snot no because of them, all these
because of the funnel. It's allthe funnel. I bet I bet that

(01:25:14):
all these accusations in Eric's mind,he's like, oh, man, you
know, it's just that I betnone of these women were ever interested in
programming, And you just wanted togo to a game developers conference with a
bunch of Splice people. And haveyou have you ever been evan to Comic
Con? Because it doesn't fucking smellgood? And and I know for a

(01:25:34):
fucking fact that GDC also probably doesn'tfucking smell good. We are not trying
to go to GDC unless we appreciatethe work. Man. Yeah, that's
that's what happens. Or apparently ifyou're just like a serial fucking rapist or

(01:25:57):
some shit. But it's like thisis the same think birds aren't real.
It's like, well, you know, haven't you seen a dead bird.
It's like it's like that I thinkthat's all a joke. I know that,
I know that there's a group ofpeople who but but I'm sure that
there are people who believe it.I'm sure there are people who believe it.
And I'm saying it's the same logicbecause like, once you've opened that

(01:26:18):
rabbit hole, it is an eternity, because it's like it's the same thing
here, Like you're saying, like, well, there, of course there's
been so many cases before this guyeven thought about putting pipelines for women into
like that end up being fucking manaccusers. But it's like, no,
those were also pipelines. They werejust underground pipelines. It's just like,

(01:26:40):
yes, yes there was a deadbird, but you know what the government
planted that. They created the deadbird, every dead bird you've ever seen,
the government, Like, like youonce you have that rabbit like,
there's nothing you can say. It'sit's all part of the same conspiracy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kind of like it's kind of
like saying the moon landing wasn't realor whatever. Yeah, it's it's all
fake. It's just I guess I'mjust not I guess I'm just not prepared

(01:27:03):
that like, someone not believing thatthe moon landing is real is like infinitely
more acceptable to me than someone whobelieves that birds I think that are just
around everywhere are not real. Yeah, but have you seen the inside And
if you have seen the inside,yes, have you seen one that they

(01:27:25):
eat them? Yeah? But butbut the government planted those. They planted
them on your plate, they plantedthem in the air fryer, they planned
them in the oil. The handof Fauci is everything, dude. I
don't think you understand Keystone Excel isall about putting fake Well have your own

(01:27:45):
chicken carcasses into American homes from Canada. I okay, I want to get
back to this mister Sabbatini here orother unfortunate pies on so uh so he's
so basically NYU is having this townhall with students and interested parties and staff

(01:28:06):
who are trying to confront them aboutthis hire. This man has a history
of assault. A few people haveasked, this may be the best one
I've heard. So why people haveasked, why hire someone who has this
type of controversy instead of hiring anequally talented scientist that doesn't have these accusations.
We just really, we just reallywanted someone who made people want to

(01:28:30):
throw up? Why can't we,as Columbia have that. Columbia has the
has my best YU still but stillyeah, yeah, we have the best
people who want to make other peoplethrow up? Okay, and as as
the leading academic institution, were aboutto give you s yeah, tuition dollars

(01:28:53):
that work? Um the all Theadministrator replies, The only thing I can
say is that we hired a fairnumber of people. Yeah, I had
a controversy surrounding them. The onlything that changes social media. That's really
the only thing. So, likethey've always been fucked up people, but

(01:29:14):
now they're on Twitter. Get overit. This is administration. Yeah,
and why administration is just saying whatwe've always what We've always always hired people
with controversy. We've always had peoplehere. Mistake was paying us and when
doing us expose you to them?Yeah, you're a mistake. Yeah,

(01:29:34):
blame blame Zuck, Zuck. BlameZuck from this is having a slave the
platform. This is basis this fault. Yeah, Sabbatini. I love how
it's just like a fucking hot potatowith these guys he resigns from, might
is like, all right, wherecan I go now sexually assault someone and

(01:29:57):
then go somewhere else. It remindsme of like the Steven Seagal Dollar,
where Seagal had so many cases ofsexual assault that like he had to just
keep moving around from places, andlike they fucking deputize the guy in another
state. Yes, I'm talking aboutthe actor. They deputized a fucking sheriffs

(01:30:20):
that Stephen Seagal fucking called up andasked to be deputized, and they did.
But it's like they didn't know.Either they didn't or they didn't care,
but the states weren't communicating about theBut it's like even if that Stephen
Seagal, wouldn't you ask, like, why is Stephen Seagal? Fuck?
Why is Stephen Seagale even becoming muteyourself fifteen times in a second? But

(01:30:47):
there's so many what the fuck's here? But it just it just reminded me
of him bouncing from jurisdiction and jurisdictiontrying to do this TV show where he
is like this law enforcement guy,and then after some point they kicked him
out of one jurisdiction and they puthim in another, and now we're doing
with academics. It is interesting thisguy, I mean, this guy's whole
argument is like it's such a it'ssuch a massive redirect that it's almost like,

(01:31:15):
why, like, even all right, disregarding the fact that you have
a responsibility to stop fucked up peoplefrom being hired at your school for this
exact fucking perfect problem that you're facing, right forgetting all of that, why
is why is that the art likeI don't get. It reminds me of

(01:31:36):
another person, another like legend inprogramming, who actually was caught up with
some of the Epstein stuff for forfor ultra weird You mentioned MT for ultra
weird reasons because he didn't he didn'thave anything to do with it. He
just had ties to people at MIT. He knew people at MIT. Literally,
that's it. Richard Stallman. He'salso kind of a legend and um,

(01:32:01):
and he had this whole thing wherehe was like he was like,
uh, you know, um yeah, uh. Evesteen probably brought people to
his island and shit and then wrongfullypresented these people these girls to his clients
to have sex with. But inall likelihood his clients like didn't know they

(01:32:25):
were under age or whatever, right, Like I mean it's it's that could
be just as likely. And it'slike Richard, yes, that could happen.
That's what said. That doesn't that'snot what happened. What happened is
said these girls were like sixteen,stop but stopped. But also but also

(01:32:45):
they could be trafficked anyway, right, and and that's what and he was
this is this is this is theship that confuses me about about these kinds
of arguments that he was even acknowledgingthat. He was like, well,
they're probably traffic, but you know, oh that doesn't mean that the person
knew they were underrated. It waslike, okay, but they can still
see that there was a trafficked personliterally standing in front of them, right

(01:33:08):
what what? Why is? Whatis this a point that needs to be
anyway? I would I think Iwas trying to make a broader point about
how like why would you why wouldyou try to put women in a pipeline
of accusing accusing men of sexual assaulteven because clearly, even though they're capable
of it, some of these guysare so far up their own asses talking
that they would never get the opportunityto actually have sex with anyone. But

(01:33:29):
I suppose that's neither you're nor there. Um yeah uh. Going back to
the there was like a fifty God, there's been so many one of the
many Columbia ones we mentioned where therewas a Columbia on fucking fire tonight.
Well, well, let me tellyou something. This is the dichotomy of

(01:33:49):
being an institution. Because Columbia andNYU and Harvard and Yale, their student
papers can get as much a publicityas a national newspaper. If city the
city college, like, we couldn'thave just as smart students. The things

(01:34:10):
we put in our fucking campus paperdoesn't go anywhere half the time. But
but if but if the Crimson postssomething, then yeah, it's gonna go
places. Or if Columbia's paid postsomething, But then that also means when
you fuck up, that's going placestoo, And when I need to find
shit again, Why would you nottake this more seriously as a college institution

(01:34:32):
If you're if you're, if you'rea big name, and your students can
get into every building because there's studentsthere. Yeah, there's a reason why
most of it. Before I remember, I told you I had to go
to the post to get things,not now talking about ivy leagues. Now
I get the times, I getall these motherfuckers I get. I get

(01:34:54):
some posts thrown in there to getthe extra shit. Like when this guy
that was to teaching Greco Roman literatureasked in quotes, so, I don't
hope, but I hope for thesake of showing how dry he is.
He actually said said this um kissedher while asking him to send sexually explicit

(01:35:15):
emails. The fact that they putin quote, I hope it was that
because that means that this dry fuckersaid, can you send me sexually explicit
emails? H Harris, this isthe guy who asked this stupid just said
my phone really sucks, So Iwould really like it if you if you

(01:35:39):
could just send me, dude tomake sure it's so. That's a that's
John uh dot no dot not ScottJohn dot Delaware at earthlink at earthlink,

(01:36:00):
that'll be that'll be at yahoo dotcom. Please yeah so so Harris,
who specializes in Greek and Roman literature, allegedly said the woman was just being
too emotional when she complained about hisunwanted advances. She was too emotional.
My penis being out. I like, how the I will say this?
At least the post is no showcalling him geriatric. I'm like, yeah,

(01:36:24):
let's let's let's roll it over.Thanks getting shipped on by the post.
Well, I guess they do that. Yeah, all right, this
guy resigned. This guy resigned.Okay, right, this was the one
who resigned, because that's justice,right, Uh Cornell has well listen,
man, Honestly I would I wouldtake these motherfuckers resigning and getting no people

(01:36:47):
over over what typically happens. Well, I don't know about that. Well,
if you, but this is thething is that if you've, if
you've let to college, do somethingabout it. They just suspend people with
pay, apparently indefinitely, like wecover in the first episode, just get
paid sex figures forever to do nothingall for for what for? For touching

(01:37:08):
people inappropriately? Like come on.So some statistics here. Most of New
York City prosecutors offices projected a greaterpercentage of sex crime and cases in twenty
nineteen, the last case we're reliabledata is available, and they did roughly
a decade earlier before the case againstHarvey Weinstein happened. So they rejected a

(01:37:32):
greater percentage of cases in twenty nineteenthan a decade earlier. For Weinstein.
Manhattan District Attorney's Office prosecutors dropped fortynine percent of sexual assault cases. So
basically, had a crime I doubtedstaffing? Okay, Uh, let's no,

(01:37:58):
but there was one which was theone I wanted to say. Ah,
it began okay, Columbia settles acomplicated sexual assault case. Great title,
we know nothing. It began asa night of drinking flirtation between two

(01:38:19):
Columbia censer romantic between Columbia University classmatesfour years ago, turn into a federal
lawsuit with unusually detailed documentation. Okay, and now it has ended in a
settlement that underscores contentiousness of national debateover sexual was kind of cases? Who
who wrote this extraordinarily passive article TheNew York Times? The postes, this

(01:38:45):
is the time? So are youready for the name? Are you ready?
Nah? I'm not. I knowthem well after the last one.
I sure as hell wasn't expecting afucking alien. You are you ready?

(01:39:08):
Because I just noticed it when youstarted saying who wrote it? That's why
I'm like, oh my god,I can't even believe this is said.
Okay, no, I don't think. I don't think this. Hold a
candle to that last guy. I'msorry that that last one just called me
ultra off guard. Um okay.So uh. Under the settlement filed December

(01:39:30):
twenty three, Columbia restored the diplomaof ben Fi Bulman, whom a three
member university panel had found responsible tosexually assaulting female classmate. Oh wow,
so they a panel found him responsibleand said we're gonna find that diploma responsible
too. But all right, hereyou go. So wait a minute.

(01:39:54):
So so a panel found him responsible, took took his diploma away, and
a sensibly come out. Uh,they restored the restored after a settlement.
So a settlement restored the diploma.Hannel found him responsible, and the settlement

(01:40:15):
agreed to pay him. And sohis statement to a prospector employees employer describing
him as an alumnus and goods standing. So he sued. I guess he
I guess he's sued back. Yeah. Um, like the case spanned two
presidential administrations. Uh wait wait,we'll we'll wrap up. Despite the aggressive

(01:40:41):
and howering attempts to Shamer through thecourt system, she has no regrets coming
forward, nothing about the settlement charges. What yeah, but but lady,
what the fuck happened? Can canwe can? Miss um? What's um?
Hor top? Don't don't don't try, don't hurt yourself, don't hurt
yourself about Can you say? Whatthe fuck happened? It is it?

(01:41:04):
Yeah? It is a kind ofa passive article for sure. Yeah,
what the fuck is going on?The times of sexual song and harassed,
including digital penetration, choking, twillthe human was a capable of giving consent?

(01:41:25):
Holy fuck? And it Columbia's disciplinaryfindings remain unchanged. So even the
universities like, now, we stillbelieve he did all this shit. And
we know now at this point thatif Columbia is like, no, no,
no, no, no, no, you you did some fucked up
shit. You don't pay somebody anythingor award them diploma if you think they

(01:41:51):
were a rapist. So the factthat miss lou miss louds his at turn,
you're saying, the fact that Columbiagave him back his diploma, he's
no longer a rapist, even thoughthey continued to find him guilty of it.
Are they are? They like,did did they? Well? He

(01:42:13):
had to sue to get his diplomaback, right, I mean they're effectively
saying like, fine, we'll giveit to you, but we don't fucking
agree with this. It's just it'sjust the courts telling us we have to
right. This might be this mightbe the one w we here for Columbia
all night. Yeah, it probablyis. And it's it's a partial.
It's more like a v okay amI am, I am I reading the

(01:42:43):
thing? You know how? Allright? So um apparently Fall twenty sixteen,
mister fableman met um, can wegive her full issue? Given a
name or not? Given this guysuch a romantic lead up? Thirty three
former marine serves six months in Iraqdischarges sergeant His accuser was, Oh,

(01:43:08):
yeah, well we know there's there'sno such thing as a sexual assault in
the military. Now, that doesn'thappen at all. Uh. They were
acquainted and became flirting a journalism schoolreception. They continued their trist their trist
we're fucking Shakespeare now on the roofof a nearby Minhattan apartment building. But

(01:43:29):
the woman scampered up a ladder tothe sloped water tower a top of this
is the great fucking Gatsby. Whatare we looking at here? What?
God? So she so she runsup the water tower. Why, I
guess, I think away from him. I guess they're trying to say that
there's I'm making them okay, Sothey're teasing each other and making Marines scared

(01:43:53):
reform. Then she performed a reversetumble role. You know what, I'm
not even going to read the endof this one because the way it's written
is making me mad. I'm gonnasay. I'm gonna say that hate the
New York Times, you know whatI'm gonna I'm gonna say that the fact
that the person who wrote this neededto write it in such a way for
this guy is telling me already.The slant that it's taking towards him,

(01:44:17):
and the fact that Columbia fucking insufferable. It's it's just why why are we?
Why are we ending this series withthe Post getting more more tallies than
the New York Times, is whatI want to ask. Oh my god,
than the New York Post. Ohmy god, Uh, come on,

(01:44:38):
I just wanted to the New Yorkpost is for people who think birds
aren't fucking real. Fuck, where'sthe one? There was just one title
I wanted to share because it wasso stupid, Christ Like, where is
it? Whatever? The title,but the title basically said professor stops job

(01:45:04):
search after getting fired for sexual assault. It was like in the New York
Times too. I'm trying to findit, but it was like it was
so it was so it was likethe worst title. It was like a
real Pasttimes title because it was likeit was like, yeah, I stopped
my faster unable to find jobs,also killed fifty people the last months.

(01:45:30):
It's like, yeah, you couldstop use job search because you get hired,
or you could stop because yeah,I think anymore spent free time poisoning
children's Halloween candy. Yeah. Ashame that this master of Greco Roman history

(01:45:50):
cannot find a single institution in NewYork and he didn't get tenure. Um,
all right, Garia would fire him, QUARTI is the only one York,
all right, will take him anyway, I'll, i'll, I'll edit
these. But the point being that, uh, okay, are we back

(01:46:15):
on? We're back here? Yeah, you got you get a distinct lean
to one side but you're almost there. I got some lean, I got
some codeine, um, I gotthat that grimace shake. Don't start with
me and that shit. Um.So we've made progress, obviously, in

(01:46:35):
by progress I mean progressing you know, down the ship or uh. But
that's it. There's no but itsucks as usual as usually, like what
we didn't We didn't really learn much. The only thing I could say is
that what NYU pointed out in thatstupid response that yes, we've always had

(01:47:00):
professors who had controversy, but nowwe have social media that actually, in
its own way is kind of thesilver lining here. It's like, oh
fuck, now we can't hide itas much anymore. Now we know you're
gonna get us on these stupid zoomtown halls and hold us accountable. It's
like, yeah, we are.Yeah, and that's and that's the only

(01:47:24):
thing. Now everybody's got a fuckingphone, you know, no one's paying
attention anything anymore. Yeah, it'slike it's one of those but that is
the only way. Like, asmuch as I don't like many of the
ways that the Internet can be usedand to data mind and to get into
people's dms and our lots and theirlives for every little issue that they've done.

(01:47:46):
There are certain instances where the abilityto find this type of information does
matter because it's there are moments whereif it wasn't for people doing that type
of digging, it wouldn't get onthe Times, it would barely get on
the Post. It I apparently didn'tget on the fucking Times, even though

(01:48:08):
they wrote a whole article about it. And that's the journalism we leave you
with. So uh, this clearlyis a subject that needs immense amount of
attention, wholesale changes and liberal institutionsthat only fame liberalism for money and clout,

(01:48:32):
much like the Democratic Party. Butat the end of the day,
it is up to the viewers andthe listeners like you you all seven people
all and us including us including fivepeople. Is that verified? Do we
actually have five listeners on this show? I'm gonna guess we got like four

(01:48:56):
and a half. Yeah, we'vehad twelve unique down Our record is sixteen
unique downloads look at us. Sothat's that's something. Anyway, it needs
talking and needs a discussion. It'snot a joke, and we need more,
Honestly, we need more people likethe guy that you said led that

(01:49:18):
orientation at new poles. We needpeople especially. It wasn't it was it
was obviously it was a good thing. It was. It was like it
was like a solid look. Itwas. It was uncomfortable as fuck right
sitting there, getting getting you know, yelled at for shit. Then yeah,
I assume none of us had donewrong, right, I hope no

(01:49:41):
one in the room had actually hadactually done anything. By the statistics of
it, probably was, but youknow, it was an important thing to
to get out there. I thinkbefore like it's even not knowing how how
strong we the school actually handles thatstuff. I don't know. It was

(01:50:05):
I think just a good thing tobe put on notice, right like that
that that isn't that's not a badthing because hers are like, hey,
right, just say you though,like your parents are in here and you
can royally fuck up, so youdon't don't fuck this up. Don't do
that shit, right, Yeah,And I think that I would like to

(01:50:27):
think at least that that deterred someonefrom from doing something terrible. It's it's
sets a tone, it's sets aculture that's saying, at least someone here
takes this shit seriously, right,and we don't see enough men especially that
do it, that that set thattone, that truly take it seriously,
And we don't see administrations that,Like you said earlier, we see administrations

(01:50:53):
setting a precedent more so the conditionsto get away with something than the conditions
to actually protect someone. Well,that's what really stood out to me.
I think the most from from fromthis one today was how have we we?
I think we have yet to hearabout a single title nine investigation that
actually worked, and and we've actuallywe've actually got stories from this episode where

(01:51:18):
the title title nine investigation sided withthe person who did all the fucked up
shit. Yeah, and I don'tknow what. I don't know what to
say about that, besides that Ican't fight. Like I already knew,
there were there were I think momentswhere, uh when, at least when

(01:51:40):
I was in college, I hadfriends at other colleges who would tell me
about shit that they reported under Titlenine and it appeared to be taken quite
seriously. Right, But if ifit's also just an escape hatch for the
people right doing something wrong, it'slike, man, that that's not you're

(01:52:00):
telling me. We couldn't, wecouldn't, we couldn't really lock down the
language on this to say like,hey, baby, just don't fucking rape
people, right, like kind ofbut anyway, but also to understand what
rape is because guys like Paul thisstude, there are guys like him that
now know, Okay, I canget away with that, I can get

(01:52:20):
away with taking consensual sex. It'sbecause because there's multiple aspects here. There's
the teachers abusing the students, theteachers abusing each other, and there's the
student abuse within the student body,and especially within the student body, it's

(01:52:41):
like, you have this ability.That's a lot of the students who sees
verdict like that feel like, allright, I have this new foundability that
once I enter consensual sex, Iwill be protected for anything I do after
that moment. Yeah, and that'sfucking scared. It's it's one of the
I think it's one of the criticismspeople have of how do I how do

(01:53:06):
I want to say this? Like, I think it's one of the criticisms
that people have with sex and videogames because it's often it's often it's not
bad that there's that sexist incident ofit. So it's the way it's often
used is effectively as like the rewardfor a wind condition right after which oh

(01:53:29):
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like oh, you chose all the
right dialogue options, like now youcan just now you get like a sex
scene. And I think I thinkpeople don't really bad an eye at that
because they that's kind of how theyjust think about. They're like, oh,
well, you're started at having zaxand it's just like whatever, you
know, then I can I canprobably just do whatever because where we already

(01:53:54):
got here, I passed the finishline a while ago. Yeah, I
got It's it's like it's exactly.It's like a one finish line. It's
not like there's multiple lines where youcheck in and you have stages to change
course. It's you pass one andit's go, and that's it. And
that's the message men are getting.And yeah, and and you're right,

(01:54:18):
it's video games. It's you know, probably it's probably the browsers, but
I think the world that they're outhere watching, it's like all that that.
I think that the video games arenot not the cause of but the
result of things. Yeah, theresult of a thinking that automatically exist by
some of the developers that we justsaid are not exactly are are committing some

(01:54:43):
of this ship also, and andand just I don't know. To end
on a slightly halfier note, I'veactually seen evidence of the of the opposite
thing happening, at least in thevideos where user control is important, where
some there are characters who would justbe like, hey, do you want
to sex? And you can justsay yes or no? Right, like
you are given a choice that youwopped into, instead of it being like

(01:55:06):
I killed fifty people fast enough andnow we get to bound down, you
know what I mean. That's theworst combination. Um, But yeah,
that is better. I think that. Yeah, I think that we hope
it's just it's just a more plain, realistic scenario where it's like, hey,

(01:55:27):
here's a yes or no question.How do you feel as as the
user, as like the real personin the room. And I think and
I think that is the note weshould end up. That's a good way
to end this. How do youfeel we should? That is what we
have control over. We have controlover checking in with our feelings and the
other person. And I've always said, if you are a man and you're

(01:55:50):
one of these people who think,well, oh my god, I don't
know. In twenty twenty three,how to like not get accused and me
too, and almost. If yougo into a situation and your top priority
is everybody feeling comfortable. I'm comfortable, she's comfortable. If it's a throuble,
we all comfortable. They all comfortable, everybody comfortable, all right.

(01:56:14):
If you go into a situation andthat's your priority, everybody good, you,
everything else will follow. If yougo into a situation thinking what can
I get away with? What canI get her to do? Then you
will find yourself in this situation andyou know what, it doesn't matter what

(01:56:36):
legal precedent did. You're doing thewrong thing. If you know someone's uncomfortable
and you're continuing to do that action, that's wrong. And it doesn't matter
what any panel says. If youstart with the mindset of comfort, you
will end generally at a comfortable outcome. If you start at the mindset of

(01:56:58):
only my comfort and no one elsecomfort manners, the outcome will follow.
Yeah, so just don't do weirdshit. That's don't doo. Just just
don't do weird shit. I wassitting here thinking I didn't. We're we're

(01:57:21):
we're, we're we're in the we'rein the post game of the episode.
Now, yeah, I was sittinghere thinking, Okay, who just tries
switching Tanal in the middle of likethat is fucking You have to be insane
to just do that. Think you'reliving out of brassers. You gotta think.

(01:57:43):
That's what brawsers, bros do.That's what that's what that's what alpha's
do. Man, no regard foranything. And and you know what,
Bud, that's what alpha females dotoo. So have fun and that's how
fun. Okay, all right,take care of guys. You're trying not
to get pegged. I guess

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