Did Robert Welsh pay CC Suarez to lie for him?

One of our fav Anti MLM content creators is back to help out a make-up company crush the competition by spewing her lies and manipulative eye rolling "facts" that she just can't ever seem to back up. This time she's endorsed by youtuber Robert Welsh to "discredit" the MLM industry on what seems to be on behalf of his brand, in direct reply to a competing company. Once again, CC didn't think anyone would check her "facts". Enjoy this like we did!

Episode Transcript

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Mus Dominic is open business and welcometo the bowl of MLM Network Marketing Warfare
Channel. This channel is dedicated tostick the crap industry of what network marketing
and MLM has become. What Imean by that is, if you've been
involved with network marketing for god knowshow long, you know that it's affectionately
known as the pyramid scam, theoh my gosh, you're just in that

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recruiting business. And I do aton of uh hopefully professional rebutes, rebuttals,
feedback if you will, to answerthe Q and A of what this
industry is. This industry is simplywith the two things, selling product and
recruiting people to sell product. Idon't know why we have to make it
so dimncomplicated. I started this industryin twenty eleven, twenty twenty twelve,

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twenty eleven, and I was,like everybody else, I sucked at it.
We had to do the whole livingroom parties back that Oh my god,
those were the stuff frigging worst holyshit. You had to get people
and have them come to a presentationat your home. It sucked. You

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guys, think you have it badnow with your hate. I guess the
anti MLM. People now call itthe hay hunt stuff. You guys think
you had a bad back then.Now, back then, in my era
of anti network marketing, anti MLM, because I was so anti MLM,
we used to have to invite people. You got out the dining room chairs,

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the kitchen chairs, make sure theplace didn't smell like dog or cat
if you had them, and thenyou'd have a flip chart of stuff.
Oh dude, it was horrible.Now in this time in uh, you
know, our our our, our, our entrepreneurial abilities. It's easier than
hell. Social media gives you anopportunity to go out and recruit or market

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your stuff at a number that wejust didn't have so many years ago.
It's a good and bad thing.The bad thing is is now we're getting
even more people coming into the businessand then quitting saying it's a scam and
whatnot because of poor representation for whatis done with the industry. I mean,
the industry has horrible reputation. Itsucks. I don't know why people

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continue to make bullshit income claims.I do not know why people continue to
wind up. Now, all yougot to do is two people. That
was my shit right when I madethe transition. It was I literally I
did I read this book by RobertKiyosaki, Business of the twenty first Century,
when I went shit. The mindsetswitch, and it's really a mindset

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switch that some people understand and thenother people just they just they refuse it.
To accept it is if I lookas I'm as, my mindset is,
I have a product I'm gonna sell. All right, I'm gonna sell
these shaker cups, and then I'mgonna recruit people to sell the shaker cups
for me. It's one thing.But literally, if I go, okay,
I'm a business owner with the companythat sell I'm a franchise business owner

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that sells the shaker cups with thecompany, and then I'm going to leverage
the tax laws and write off taxes. I'm a business owner who takes my
own product. That's the mindset switch. The problem is right, and the
antimlum community having a mindset switch isn'tgood enough. You're not allowed to say
to the anti mlum community, I'ma business owner. I'm a franchise owner,

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because then they come back to youwith, oh, here's a reality.
You're not a franchise owner, becausehere's the definition of franchise. They're
the same people that would walk upto a kid who has a lemonade stand
and go, where's your fucking businesslicense? Oh, you're only ten years
old. You're not allowed to haveany profits coming in You're until you're eighteen
in the state of Illinois. Sohere's the deal. If you're doing MLM,

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your business is simply selling your productor service and then recruiting other people
to do it. End of story. The semantics of the game comes in
with the mind fuck that the antimlumcommunity likes to bring to you to wind
up making you think, oh this, maybe I'm not a business owner.
Maybe I'm not this, maybe I'mnot that. It's my job to go

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through content and just give you apeace of mind because I'm not gonna lie.
This is an extremely difficult industry becauseyou're dealing with other human beings.
You're dealing with your own timetable,your own schedule. You have to set
your own will. How am Igoing to be lazy today? All this
It's a lot of friggin work thatyou have to do because you're not responsible

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for a boss just giving you alist and saying here's your task for the
day. Right. My job asa cop was was easier because I knew
what I had to do. Goahead and initiate calls and get my performance
evaluation underdue and you know, andthen respond to calls. This is simpler.
The job I have now simpler.It's contact, invite people, show

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them my plan and show them myproduct, and then transaction sale or recruitment.
It's simpler. It's just a lotmore work because I'm dealing with people.
Right, it's all about influence.So here's the deal. I want
to start going over review stuff rightnow. I picked one at random.
I just typed an anti MLM andthis popped up first. I haven't seen
this yet, so this is goingto be a reaction video with you guys.

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But it's got one of my favoritesin there, CC Suarez, who's
got one of the largest YouTube channels. When it comes on anti MLM.
Even though she's self admitted I believethe longest she's ever been in an in
an network marketing company is seventy twohours. So again, like everybody else
is in this industry, here's thetwo. These are the two types of
people who are anti MLM, peoplewho are really successful right out of the

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gate, recruited a lot, madea lot of money. Then they couldn't
handle the pressure of actually realizing thisis a business of fucking working for the
people underneath you. And it's nothey, just go call to people and
then get me on the phone.It is staying on top of your people.
It's people management. And then theother tipe of people who've never done
it before, but they know onYouTube all they have to do is tap

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into a niche, which is abunch of people who've been in this industry
burn screwed over and they can makemoney with views or selling their products,
just like Suarez and all the othersdo. But tonight, let's look at
Robert Welsh together makeup artists. Iknow nothing about him. He's got one
point one million followers to his YouTubechannel, so remember he's got influence and

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what he says, man, thepeople are gonna like, They're gonna like
a lot. And then he hadcci honest content. So she just got
access to a base of a millionpeople and she's able to spread content.
I want if I have an answerfor what she says. Great if I
don't. I don't. But let'stake this for a spin and see how
we all enjoy tonight. I doI have a if you're we're gonna build

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this live, this is live.There's the number scrolling on the screen.
If you want to call or havea conversation about anything, please do.
Of course, we know that theanti MLM trolls won't call in and debate
ever, but one can hope,right, one can hope. All right,

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let's take a look at this together. Robert Welsh, makeup artist,
the viral makeup cunt cent se In t the makeup MLM with I amcc
suarez. Understand before I go intothis, I know nothing about this company.
I don't care about the company perse, meaning that yeah, if
the company is doing immoral things andI don't support it whatsoever. I want

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to hear what she has to sayabout the industry of network marketing slash MLM
in totality and see if I canIf I can't answer what she's saying,
oh and shit, just means Ihave more work to do, right,
But let's play this together and listento has to say. Could you have

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been so close to accidentally joining aCOT just by consuming beauty content on TikTok
umbreos and perhaps maybe clicking on alink in a number one. I don't
care who I offend. There's somegreat people out there, like this man's

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our hisstic ability. I know whois it, James Charles, James or
James Charles. That guy's damn goodat what he does. Jeffree Star,
damn good at what he does.This guy's stuff damn good. I'll say
it because I'll never watch this.But my older brother, I'll throw this

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one out there. It's Scott Barnes, Jlo's makeup artist. I know Scott
very well, he's my older brother. But can we just say that probably
with this is going to come feminineenergy with this, right, which is
something that you need to know.If you're going to be in sales,
you need to have masculine energy anda thick skin. I'm assuming i'm labeling.

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I'm critiquing off the bat. WhenI see this already, I see
a condescending Betty who's about to sitthere and lay hate in the network marketing
industry. Even though I'm gonna makeventure a guess that Robert Welsh has his
own product that he wants to selland push out there you're saying, but
let's get in this together and findout how this goes a bio. Yes

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you could. You wouldn't even realizethat I would take it. To dive
into this multi level marketing company state, or an MLM as it's widely known.
I have some healthdays. I ama sucker for British accents, don't
I wish I heard one? Justdon't have one, but yeah, well
done? Yeah, oh my NoSouth African accents? Oh my god,
women who have South African accents.I swear to God, that's all you

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gotta do is come up to meand talk Afrikaans. I think it's Africana
and I will ask you to marryme if you're a woman. Just let
you know. Saying what multi levelmarketing company is. But some of you
may be wondering why I want tolook at multi level marketing companies in particular,
and this in particular makeup brand.Now, I'm strongly against multi level
marketing companies and a business structure.Any brand that does business structure. Again,

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multi level marketing is to sell theproduct you buy into the company.
Now, remember one of CC's mostfamous short videos was you don't have to
buy into a company if you're goingto own it. Well, then then
why does McDonald's charge a franchise fee? Why does all the Taco Bell,
Burger King? Why is there afranchise fee in there? Affiliate marketing,

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you don't need to which means thatif I put the promo code izzo and
there's a landing page for these shakercups, if I worked for first Form,
which I'm not associated with or affiliatedwith at all. But if I
did, and I sold these cups, and I attached to link firstform dot
com slash Izzo, and you clickedon that and then you ordered because it

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went through me and I marketed,I get a percentage of that. I
don't have to buy in. Thenagain too, first Form doesn't have to
pay me unless a transaction is madeusing my link. When it comes down
to this stuff, the multi levelmarketing business is you're going to pay a
entry fee into the company, whichI wish was incredibly high. I wish

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to buy in was at least fifteenhundred to two thousand to five thousand dollars,
you would have more people turn awayfrom it and say I'm not doing
it, you'd have more skin inthe game. For those who do do
it would take it more seriously andthey'd be like, damn, I need
to just invested in this. Ireally need to take the time to make
this work. The fact that theentry the cost for entry for network marketing

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company is so ridiculously low it attractspeople of a weak, non business mind.
I'm sorry if you got suckered intoa network marketing company and didn't know,
I'll just try it. I'll justspend one hundred dollars buy in,
and then you failed. It's yourfault. It's your fault. But the
business model you buy in, youget on their product, so you are

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your own customer, and then yousell their product. I'm not familiar with.
I've never been a part of theold Amway model where you buy a
bunch of product and then sell it. I'm not a fan of that at
all. I would never do that. I am. I bought into a
company. My company's the distribute distributioncenter. All I am is the mouthpiece

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for the company that tries to getpeople to go to my link to buy
the product. End of story.That's it. That's all I've ever done
with network marketing and I've been successfulwith it, and I like the business
model, but that's the business model, and it's not for everybody. You
have to have a personality, youhave to have a thick skin, you
have to have a sales drive,you have to have integrity, and you
have to know what you're doing.It's this I'm like instantly, no,

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I'm not gonna be interested in it. I'm not going to try to product.
And by the end of this video, I hope that you would understand
why and also form your own opinionon why molti level marketing companies MLMs are
bad. You may have heard ofthe name of it. Dude, thank
you, thank you already this mangives its credit from me because he said

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there, Multi level marketing companies arebad. He didn't say scam now because
he said that, he's gonna getmy respect and attention because yeah, there's
a lot of bad with it.There's a lot of bad because nobody sits
there and has a system or aplan going. Hey when you come in,
because the typical thing with network marketingis I recruit you, I dump

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you off. Get to people onthe phone with me, dude, No,
get You're going to spend a weekwith me, minimal an hour a
day, and we're going to goover the product, the company history,
the compensation plan, the time thatyou need to dedicate for this, the

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reasonable expectations, the duplicated system ofhow you do it, your expectations.
Don't you dare try to close somebodyon your own, Don't you dare talk
about money, Don't you dare callyour friends and family, Don't you dare
lie? There are so much shitthat you have to talk about in the
beginning. Just set people up theright way. But they don't do that.
So the system isn't bad. Buthow the system is conveyed by the

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lazy reps who do nothing but goonline and point at the Instagram air words
that come by and do their littledances. I can't believe I made twenty
five thousand dollars as a single momhere on this and blah blah blah.
That's the shit that gives us abad fucking name. Would you stop doing
it please and take yourselves a littlebit more seriously Because you're attracting people who

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think that this business is easy.It's not easy. It's incredibly simple.
You reach out to people, Youhave conversations, you introduce your products,
you try to sell your products,You try to recruit them if interested at
another point in time. Simple,not easy. Thank you, Uh,
I can't remember this chen's name,but thank you for expressing that it's bad.

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Bad can be cleaned up. Scam, it's not a scam to damn
scheme to system. Scheme and systemare the same damn thing. But let's
keep going. I'm around everywhere andwonder why there's a whole subcoast of anti
MLM videos on YouTube and content online. But here's what I want to say
to everyone right now. This isgoing to make sense a little bit later,

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but there is going to be areason why we touch on coat like
mentality today now after you've watched thisvideo, because everybody wants to be liked
and accepted, and the story there, you go, Why do you think
so many of you are just nowtouching on the precipice of narcissism by having
your content up on social media thatyou want to be liked. You want

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to have minimal contact with people,but you want everybody to like your stuff,
comment your stuff, share your stuff. And you can't understand why you're
something go by. Human psychology isreally easy. You want to be liked
and accepted for who you are withminimal effort and return on liking and accepting
other people. It's just how weare as human beings. We need to
come back a few hours later,even a few days later and take a

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look through the comments that. Ihave no doubt people who are involved in
this brand will work. This brandwill leave beneath this video one. They
will be strange comments, they maybe trauma dumb, piece of trigger warning,
and they will be coat like right. And I'm simply going to reply
to these comments example so you cansee an example of what these strange,

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weird comments look like and the mentalityof people who work for this brand and
MLMs in general. Okay, soI'm incredibly lucky. But one thing I
have to do wonder too, isthis guy is brilliant because he is a
makeup artist. I'm wondering if hehas his own brand and he's attacking an
ANTA and MLM makeup company. Yeah, he's trying to kill their business so

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his business doesn't get killed. It'spretty smart, nothing wrong about it.
It's just a matter of influence.Does this gentleman Robert Welsh. Does he
have more influence than the typical distributoror representative of this CNS company whatever it
is, I don't know, haveto pronounce it, but that makes it
do this business. It's war Sogive him credits. So far I like

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this guy. Yeah, I'm soexcited to be joined today by CiCi Suarez.
Chelsea, who is at content Iabsolutely love. I watch all the
time. She makes incredible content basedon emlems but also around scams and other
things like that, and I feellike we have the same level of passion
for our particular fields and subjects.You know, she is as equally passionate
about exposing scams and MLMs as Iam about makeup And you know, remember

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Chelsea invited me to a debate anda discussion on her YouTube channel and then
backed out when I said, absolutelyas long as it's not edited or it's
live, and she thought, Ihave to cancel it because I want to
spare my audience from the views ofhaving his language. Remember, Chelsea,

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you know you ran from me.You you bad girl. You reacting to
make up videos. And I haveasked her to help me explain certain things
about MLMs throughout this video because sheis so educated on it, and so
she's not, well, she's not. She's self admitted never did. All
right, I get let me thinkabout this for a second. What the

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hell did I do? Let's see, I'm gonna sit there, and I
would be embarrassed if I said thatI was an expert in something because I
watched a bunch of YouTube videos onit. Whatever, All right, I
go, let's just keep going.Well as I'm not, so, I
thought, what best a person thattell us to help me out? So
she is going to tell us rightnow? What is an MLM or a

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multi level marketing company? Multi levelmarketing is an industry that goes by many
names you may know. It isnetwork marketing, direct sales, social selling,
influencer marketing, high ticket affiliate sales, affiliate marketing, digital sales.
It's not affiliate marketing. It's notdigital sales. Network marketing is MLM,
multi level marketing and network marketing,even those are two a little bit different.

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It's not affiliate sales, it isnot quite a few of the things
that she said. It's direct sales. So let's let's stick to those three.
Multi level marketing is MLM. Networkmarketing, direct sales, or social
media marketing in some cases, butmostly people refer to them as pyramid schemes.
Now, under the direct selling umbrella, there are two different types of

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organizations. There's single level marketing,which means that the distributor is getting a
commission for whatever product they are sellingthrough the company that they're working for.
And then there is multi level marketing, which means that they are getting a
commission for whatever product they are sellingthrough the company they work for, and
then they are also getting a commissionfor recruiting other people to become distributors,

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and also off of those people's salesas well, whether they mostly and now
I don't think, I uh,the company I'm with, I don't get
any bonus for recruiting somebody in.I just don't so when they come in
and they pay their and the companyI've been with is fifty two years old,
it's one of the longer the crapout there. Very very simple company,

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very simple product. I make nomoney when somebody comes in and pays
that entry fee. That just don't. I make money when somebody hits certain
rank and then I get a percentageoff of their sales provided my sales and
points are at a certain rate andlevel if you will, So don't just

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think that you bring somebody in andyou make money. You don't. They
have to work, You have towork for them. Which is the biggest
backwards mindset in network marketing is peoplethink that you bring somebody and they work
for you. Dude, you're workingfor your people. If you're not,
if you're not selling and recruiting andpouring into the people underneath you, yeah,
you're gonna end up like CC Suarezand not knowing what the hell you're

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talking about and hating this business becauseyou tried it for three days and then
you left. The company is moneyand you are selling monet or the opportunity
to sell shampoo. Ork, whyis she do that? It's money money
or money? It's not money eight. You know exactly what it is,
but you disrespect it and didn't youuse the product for quite a while.
I think we had some videos ofyou up there with their product in the

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background. Whatever. Companies like IGenius and IAM Academy where you are selling
access to a financial literacy, andyou got to notice she's not joining either.
CC doesn't do live stuff. Idon't think she can. Everything's edited
so you can see she's skipping everythree four seconds here because CC Suarez does
not like to think off the cuff. This is why she cannot debate,

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because she'll get her ass handed toher. Simple as that Percy program and
trading education or the opportunity to alsosell that industrywide. Per studies done by
the FEC and the AARP, theaverage profit is zero thanks to the evolution
of social media and the accessibility thatI gave. This is something I've always

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wondered. The average product profit iszero reported because I want to know how
that. This is something I don'tknow. I don't know how the surveys
are done. Like I know thatI'm gonna get my tax information at the
end of the year and I getpaid monthly. Now I make more money

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than I spend for the company I'mwith. I'm not required. I am
not required to be on product inorder to make money. There are very
big success stories in my company.People who have hit the highest level have
never been on the product. Okay, great. I don't know that gives
you any credibility as far as beinga consumer and somebody get advocated. But

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I want I want. This issomething I truly don't understand. So I
want to know if let's just say, for argument's sakes, I make one
hundred dollars a month and I haveto spend I don't know, ninety bucks
a month, right, and I'mI'm gonna try to formulate my argument through
this process. I make ten dollars. Great, it's gonna be on paper

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with the company because the company's gonnaknow, all right, you made a
transaction for ninety bucks a month inour product, You made a hundred bull,
you made one hundred dollars that wipesoal, You made ten dollars a
month. Okay. I have towonder how they're getting an average of zero
unless people are talking about the othercost of businesses on there. Right,

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this is where you get me whois filling out surveys And I know that
every every what do you call it? Every company is an income disclosure and
you're gonna have ranks on their listedAre they listing their personal income as well?
Too? I mean, my ismy income going to be listed on

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my company's website to be part ofa survey that says that the average has
made zero? Because there's two differentways to look at it. If I
say I am on the product though, Okay, here's what I make a
month, then deduct what I spentin the company a month on product,
I'm going to be at X amountof dollars of profit. Right. But
now maybe if I include, Okay, this is my business, I'm out

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of an office. This is whatthe rent is. This is what the
electric bill is, this is whatthe cell phone bill is, this is
what the heat is. This isnow here's the business costs? Overhead?
Those they let's just say those areoutweigh the cost of what I'm bringing in.
So I'm in the rent on thisone? Am I do? I

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let people know? How do theyknow what I'm spending on overhead to run
my business? This is where Idon't understand where they're getting this. Outside
of do you just survey a bunchof people and who are asked so,
do you make any money? No? I didn't. I want to know
are people legitimately handing over their theirtheir W two's or ten ninety nine's,

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whatever they're putting on for their income. Are they disclosing their income or does
the company do it for ust?Because if that's the case, I didn't
know the company could tell people whatI make every year. I'm sure I
don't mind it, go ahead anddo it, But I wonder who is
actually how are these surveys derived?This is information I don't have. If
CC has it, I'll have todo more research on it. But this

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is just something I'm not familiar with. There's many ways to look at Yeah,
I made money, No, Ididn't make money. It's just something
that I'm personally not familiar with.So people say, if they ever ask
you, well hired, if theaverage income is zero, what is that
based on? And then what isthis study base? Let me you know
what, let me see something reallyquickly. We'll look at this. The
opportunity we'll do this shampoo or companieslike I Genius and I AM Academy where

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you are selling access, I'll dothis in real change literacy program and trading
education, or the opportunity to alsosell that industrywide per studies done by the
FEC and the AARP. Okay,FTC, let's see let's look at this
really quickly. Here, let's goto FTC, FTC MLM Multi Level Marketing,

(26:03):
Federal Trade Commission Pyramid schemes. Letme see if I can find and
I'm right for you, ask questionsof your homework past. Okay, multi
marketing studies, average income FTC,MLMs abysmal numbers. Let's look at this.

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I want to know what they're basingthis study on. All right,
let's see legal disclaimer. I amon a pdf from the What tax studies
ever ever revealed about MLM profitabilities?The Wisconsin experience with Amway in nineteen eighty

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is a part of a suit againstamwaing. An investigation was undertaken by the
Office of the Attorney General by theState of Wisconsin, led by Blah Blah
Blah. Approximately twenty thousand distributors operatingWisconsin. State tax returns were obtained,
all from the Amway direct distributed tonumbers of Wisconsin which numbered about two hundred,
which represented approximately the top one percentin Wisconsin. Attached to the number

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of returns were federal income forms whichrevealed a breakdown of the revenue expenses.
So again, okay, this answersmy question. All right, So if
CC is saying, if you're justgonna say, shit, well, the
average income is zero. You didn'ttake every every company out the world.
You said twenty thousand people out ofamway in nineteen eighty is what this study

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says. Then, now, ifyou know your taxes, you don't want
to take a hit. You're gonnasay, yeah, I had to buy
a pair of cheaters this year todo my bus business, So can I
write that off? It's gonna beoff balanced. You guys are so full
of shit, it's ridiculous. Iwant to know the bottom number. How
much money did you spend with yourcompany versus how much you make? Now,

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if you're gonna if you're doing alegitimate business, yeah, let's talk
about your overhead. If you areone hundred percent, just focus completely on
the MLM and you're paying your lightbill as a business, your heat bill,
AC, your set up your lectureto your phone. Yes, and
you are not making that up revenueto cover the costs. Something's wrong.

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Shouldn't be doing that in the firstplace. But don't be disingenuous CC and
say, oh, this study flatout says that the average cost is zero.
No, this study says in nineteeneighty, approximately twenty thousand distributors operating
Wisconsin. Now here's the other dealtoo. Don't be disingenuous in your bullshit,
how many hours a day, aweek, a month, a year

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did these people wind up putting intheir business. It's not a possible measure
to take account for when you're goingto say the average number of people make
zero, because you know what,the average number of people who come into
a network marketing don't do shit.Eighty percent of the people quit. So
you want to keep going on thisfucking line that the average is zero,

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ask legitimately, how many hours aweek did you put in? Oh,
you only worked for two weeks outof the first six months, and then
you did it for three weeks isstraight? Then you got fed up and
you quit again. You spent atotal of five weeks one hour a day
doing it. Don't bring your horseshit as this just some social media influencer

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who think she knows what she's talkingabout to this bullshit. If you're gonna
say the average number of zero basedon a stupid study from nineteen eighty with
twenty thousand people who probably didn't doanything, now what I want you to
see is give me eighty percent oftwenty thousand. I'm not doing the math.
I'm not gonna wiggle my toes inthat those are the number of the
people are going to drop off.So number one, don't give me the

(30:04):
horseshit of well, it's the percentageof yeah, it's zero is what makes
ninety nine percent? Makes zero?Your sister's ass. The average profit is
zero. Thanks to the evolution ofsocial media and the accessibility that it gives
us, distributors for these companies andthe network marketing companies themselves are able to

(30:25):
recruit and manipulate people with ease.Marketing themselves is hobbits, just like you're
doing right now. You're full ofshit, all you guys in the anti
MLM industry. You're lying about things. Everything has a standard. How many
hours did you work, how muchdid you wind up putting into it?
What did you spend? What doyou what do you make it? How
you literally literally I don't understand whythis is still a discussion, But you

(30:47):
guys are worse when it comes downto the manipulation of facts because you're not
putting all this shit in the table. You just got butt heart in the
industry, some of you, someof you found out I'll have to do
is paint my face, go onlineand talk about life. Drink lattes gain
weight and look at my ologist.Life is so tough for me and lie
about an industry that you were nevera part of in the first place.

(31:10):
So shut the fuck up financial freedomand time freedom in order no anybody.
I'll do this too. There's nosuch thing as financial freedom or time freedom
if you're involved in network marketing.There's not I don't know a single business
on the planet, and I've saidthis. This is where the anti MLM

(31:30):
crew gets my support. If you'retelling somebody you're going to be free to
do vaca your business from vacation onthe beach, really, then you're not.
If you're on a beach and youare trying to recruit somebody or self
somebody, you're not giving them yourundivided attention. It's not right, it's
stupid. I think it's disingenuous andit's against fucking gross. If you do,
you could take a month off rightagain. God bless her every now

(31:56):
and then she'll pop in my headand miss a shit out of her.
Jesse Lee Ward the single most successfulnetwork marketer in the fucking world. I
don't think that bitch ever took dayoff one never. She was always working
financially free. No, that womanwas always making money to give back,
well to spend to get back toopen businesses. But no, if you're
coming in this to be financially freeor time freedom, they go hand in

(32:21):
hand. You can't make five milliondollars and say, Okay, I'm gonna
step back now and not expect thatincome to drop month after month after month
after month because your time and financiallyfree. Now, that's a bunch of
bullshit. And I agree with themon this. To recruit unsuspecting, uneducated,
unknowing and honestly just people who aredesperate for money, housewives saying this

(32:45):
one for a long time, justlike you do. You could see these
anti MLM ors prey on females,women who are home with kids, who
are looking for something else, anda lot of network marketers do it right.
They'll go to their reels and they'llput music up on the background.
They'll start pointing and all this shitand blah blah blah blah blah blah,
make money. I made five thousanddollars yesterday. All this stuff they're praying

(33:06):
on women who are spending a lotof time at home with their kids,
with their families, where their husbandsare at work and they want to do
something and they think all they haveto do is pop in. This is
where they get the hay hunt stuff. Hey hunt and do this stuff.
It's just wrong. They prey onwomen, they always have or a way
out of their currents less than favorableliving situation, and they're recruiting people into
these scams for their own financial gain. In recent years, thanks to the

(33:30):
rise of the influencer, multi levelmarketing destiniers have been parading themselves all over
social media as influencers. This iswhat they do, such as I get
paid to wash my hair, Iget paid to share these products, I
get paid to promote XYZ click.Yeah, but don't be a hypocrite.
You do the same thing. Youliterally put on makeup and you get paid

(33:51):
from your YouTube stuff. Right,But the number one argument they all say
is but I'm not recruiting. No. But just like affiliate marketing or anything
else, you're flushing people to youronline store that has a link in your
YouTube channel. You get paid fromYouTube, you get paid from anything you're
promoting. You get paid for anythingthat youre is a link. So stop

(34:13):
being this horseshit of you're the highand righteous whatever, the savior of anti
MLM. The only difference thus farbetween what you're doing and what you're accusing
these women of doing is you're justnot making money off of people who wind
up sharing your content or spreading yourstuff or recruit or are you Have you

(34:35):
ever asked anybody to share one ofyour videos? Are you recruiting them to
do work for you? Yeah?But I didn't tell them to pay.
I didn't really, I don't know. Are you maybe in some associated way
asking people to sign up for theYouTube that's got the fifteen bucks a month
with no commercials and all this kindof stuff? And is YouTube leveraging your

(34:58):
image and kind of Everything's a fuckingrecruit game. Stop your shit. Look
the link in my bio and fillout my influencer application. I make money
from home being an influencer. Ican monetize my social media, so can
you. I ashore how you're scrollingall day on social media anyway, you
might as well get paid for it. If you're not getting paid. In

(35:19):
this day and age, there's nodifference between what these women are doing and
OnlyFans either, which why would youhate the game? It's capitalist society right.
So if a girl's good looking,got a great smile, can flash
or pearly whites, her blue eyes, blonde hair, and she can gain
a money off of that, whyare we hating her? I don't understand
cc. She's not an unattractive womanor personality makes her unattractive. She is

(35:45):
leveraging her looks to gain views,clicks on her store, all this kind
of stuff. I don't know whythis is a big issue, but I
do. This is where women shouldbe disclosing. Yeah, yeah, here's
how I really have to make mymoney. But again too, it's marketing.

(36:07):
It's marketing cores light markets that ifyou crack open a can the silver
bullet on the hottest summer day possible, a train from the Rocky Mountains with
snow on it is going to comecool you off with twenty Swedish bikini models,
all with double D tits and blondehair, who probably don't speak English,

(36:29):
but they'll do anything you ask.When we know that the reality of
is that you're probably a fat whiteguy who's sitting at home just dripping cheese
nachos all over your stomach, watchingthe football game, looking at the commercial
and it's reinforcing you. All youhave to do is crack open this cores
light. It's marketing. It's marketing. Stop with this horse shit. You're

(36:51):
not saying MLM is so bad becauseit's marketing. This is the disingenuous.
Shit's ridiculous. And we're only fiveminutes in this video. For scrolling on
social media, you're missing out andso on and so on and so on.
But here's the truth from someone whois actually a content creator and has
been four years now. You puton fucking makeup. That's your great distribution

(37:17):
to society. Shit, man,My years in retail, my years of
owning a gym, my years ofteaching martial arts, my almost twenty years
as a cop man, that's nothing. Damn I wrote a book published it.
Fore, I guess that's nothing comparedto sitting down, sipping a latte
out of a fucking Starbucks cup,putting makeup on my face, and going,

(37:42):
I'm a content creator. But again, I can't hate the game because
this is where we're at now.But thank you for your contribution to siding
capitalism. Girl. Well, thisis my primary source of income, as
it is Roberts as well. Letme be straight with you. There is
no such thing at all as aninfluence application. Filling out a form in
someone's bio does not make you aninfluencer. Neither does becoming a salesperson,

(38:07):
paying to become a salesperson, tobecome a contracted ten ninety nine distributor for
a multi level marketing company. Nothingis an influencer. You guys gave yourself
that title. Influencing is the abilitywith charisma and integrity which you don't have
to wind up getting someone to dowhat you want. Then there's two ways

(38:30):
of doing it, Chelsea. That'sinfluence and manipulation, and you operate on
manipulation. So don't call yourself aninfluencer. You're a girl who sits at
a counter with a ring light infront of herself, painting her face.
It almost comes up like a ghostlike clown. Stop it. You're not
an influencer. You're a kid infront of a friggin microphone and a camera

(38:52):
that edits her stuff to tell otherwomen how what they're doing is either good
or bad. And sadly, thesewomen just soak the shit up because they
want to be like, Oh,that does not make you an influencer.
These people are also not paid atall, ever, never, ever,
ever. They're not paid to poston their social media or to promote the

(39:13):
products for the multi level marketing companyor whatever products or opportunity that they are
selling. They are only ever paidwhen they recruit someone or when they sell
the product, and that is it. They are not putting off of their
engagement relating to their multi level marketingcompany. They are not paid perviews relating
to their multi level marketing company.No, you're full of shit. If

(39:36):
somebody has a YouTube channel and they'retalking about their content and that YouTube channel
is monetized like yours is, they'regetting paid. If you're talking about through
the company, company is not gettingpaid. Stop lying, girl, stop
it, stop it, getta stop. Man. I would have so much

(39:57):
more respect for you if you didn'tlie. But you're still understanding all the
time. Your eye rolls, Ohmy gosh, this and that. Man,
all we had to do is youhave that debate. We could have
been friends. They might also createother content, maybe YouTube or something like
that, but that's not what they'rereferring to. When they say that they
can teach you how to do it, they are trying to recruit you into

(40:19):
their multi level marketing company that theywork for. It is completely different than
what actual content creators do. Whenwe do affiliate marketing and share affiliate links.
For instance, this lipstick, Ican share an affiliate link for it.
Robert and other YouTubers as well willshare their affiliate links and disclose them
properly per the FTC guidelines. Andthen if you click that link and purchase

(40:40):
the product, then yes, manytimes we will make a commission off of
whatever affiliate link. We all thetime we make a commission off of it.
I don't understand what you're talking about. If somebody is doing something deceptively,
you'll get my backing and agreeing withyou. But if I'm saying X,
Y and Z this right now onthis YouTube channel, I'm not going
to talk about where people can windup getting a hold of me. You

(41:01):
see that number on the bottom there. Yeah, if they want to call
me or text me and do businesswith it's another story. But I'm not
gonna say, hey, please fillout my affiliate lincoln it. No,
I'm not doing that. I amnot associating my business with this video or
this YouTube channel. I'm not gonnado that because I'm not going to try

(41:22):
and take a chance of violating compliance. Right, this is all my opinion.
My view is completely separate with mycompany is what it is. I'm
not a representative all of this inthis video. But I don't understand why
if somebody you're you're your logic andargument, and it makes no sense why
you're so different from what they're doing. They're they're they're if they're leaving out

(41:42):
information in the initial uh uh posting, like hey girl, all you gotta
do is recruit and sell and both, and they're not saying that kind of
stuff. I don't think that that'sa violation of any type of compliance.
I don't know. They're just doingone step extra or that you don't have
to do, which is recruiting people. I just wish to god it would

(42:02):
all come back down to these peoplesaying, oh, they got to recruit,
got to recruit, got to recruit. Your problem is with recruiting,
you still have to put up goodcontent otherwise your views go down. Sadly,
negative behavior tracks good consistent content.Because you bitch so much, people
are always gonna watch yourself. Allyou do is complain used. However,

(42:23):
that is not the same as joininga multi level marketing company. We are
not limited to just one product orone brand. Many YouTubers such as myself
and Robert do sponsorships to add integrationson our channels, in which we are
paid a set rate whatever is agreedupon between us, our management, the
brand, whoever management the brands,the product management. This woman talks about

(42:47):
her management team, right, She'sgot one hundred thousand subscribers to our YouTube
channel and she has management. Right. I got one YouTube channel's got one
hunred twin one thousan subscribers. Thisone's only guy like seven hundred. I
run a live, five day aweek podcast that is streamed to multiple platforms

(43:08):
and distributed to a nine million subscriberlist. I don't have one fucking manager.
I do it all myself. Iedit all my own videos I put
up on all the distributing platforms Irun. I run four different YouTube channels
with different types of content, fourdifferent podcasts, And you have a management

(43:30):
team for your cute little one hundredthousand things that you o. My management
team is going to wind up contry. Yeah. If you can't manage it
yourself, you got a problem toour audience. On our videos, we
are paid to promote and for themto be able to have access to our
audience. That is not what ishappening with multi level marketing company distributors.

(43:54):
You're not paid to promote. Itis not a sponsorship. They are a
salesperson nothing more. You're not anindependent business congratulations, Yes we are independent
business owners. Right, that's themindset. I don't give a shit what
You're not an independent business owner.You're a girl with a camera and a
ring light. There's nothing business aboutyou. Big fucking deal. Anybody could
do what you're doing, whether ornot they're gonna get views of a different

(44:15):
story. That's all I am innetwork marketing. I sell a product.
I sell the business opportunity. Ihave no problem admitting that. Great.
Now what owner? They are notan influencer. They are an independent sales
market for influence multi level marketing company. Now, I've personally never been affected

(44:38):
by a multi level marketing company.Stay away from CC threw into my life
or anything like that. But throughoutthese deep dive videos, as I'm sure
you aware, I make a lotof content on the ethics behind brands and
people who own it, what theydo as a company, and how they
behave and basically basically if they fuckup. And I always say the modern
way of shopping for brands is thatlike you're looking at like a metaphorical person.

(45:00):
What is this brand like if theywere to be a human being?
Do they give to charity? Dothey ruin people's lives? Is the owner
of a racist? You know?All this stuff I'm saying about that brand.
That's just an example, but mesaphorically, remember started to think, I'm
a Mastagy generation people. So youmay know someone who is in or was
in an MLM. Maybe your mumor your auntie sells Avon or Sensy,

(45:22):
or maybe they have like essential oilparties or something like that, and the
host of those parties is in amulti level marketing company. There's some brands
you may even know a multi levelmarketing companies or have that structure within their
business, like body Shot and somersAvon Locks of Tan is a newer one.
And some people who work for thesebrands are lucky enough not to get

(45:42):
too negatively caught up in it.It doesn't affect their lives to intensely,
but for some people it can fullon ruin their lives. And I've had
messages from some of you when I'vetalked about this over and Instagram, people
who are in tens and thousands ofdollars worth of debt because of multi level
marketing companies. But how can amulti level marks and company ruins someone's life?

(46:02):
Oh the hell? I want toknow from this aspect signing my mouse
here for a company, I'm gonnaask, how the hell are people in
tens of thousands of dollars of debtwhen unless unless, unless they're buying product?
Right? You got ten thousand dollars? What's her name? Did this?
She caught herself Aaron B's caught herselfin a lie when she did that

(46:27):
interview with Marco talking about how shewould pad her stats right. She bought
products and then opened up other uhother other distributors like under fake names.
I did. I did a videoup out of the channel. I can't
remember what it was, but shedefrauded the company in order to pat her
stats right, So I and I'venever done that. I don't know what

(46:50):
it's like to buy like again,if I work for First Form again,
I'm not associated with them, butI was on the anti Forselis podcast.
If I have a hundred of theseI I I'm gonna try to sell them,
right, or am I in debtif I can only move one of
them, I'm stuck with ninety nine. I'm having a hard time understanding how

(47:12):
that is just not like common inany business outdoor? Or is this a
generational thing? My generation, weknew that you had it's supply and demand
product and services. You can't.The pyramid scam definition is if I sell
air right, meaning I take money, and then I recruit two people,

(47:35):
and from that money that I tookfrom the first person, I distributed it
down there, or vice versa.When you exchange a product for a service
or in money, it's not ascam. My point being is I'm at
a loss. Does this generation thinkthat if you order one hundred count of
something, it's gonna automatically sell likecrazy. If that's the case, then

(47:57):
go to your jewel, your Kroger, your CV, your Walgreens, and
go run your your finger over thethe back of a robotusin coft syrup.
That's almost see how much dust ison there. Well, no, they
got it in the order, they'regonna sell it. Go work in retail,
Go work in any go look atthe profit loss of a of a

(48:19):
of a dairy or milk company thatwhen they sell their bread to a grocery
store that's got like the shelf lifeof week and it doesn't move, it
has to be destroyed per law.You cannot donate it to a homeless shelter.
You can't because if that person getssick off of it, then they're
gonna sue the original distributing company.So I don't understand why. This is

(48:42):
why everybody think I'm tens of thousanddollars in dead. That's because we attract
the wrong type of people in MLM, and we do. We should have
a higher entry rate to come in. Hey, it's gonna cost five thousand
dollars to do this business. Whatwhy? Because you have to know what
the fuck you're doing. You haveto know what the risks are. So
at the end of the day,if you're like, oh, I did
I just c C. Suarez toldme to buy seventeen orders to makeup for

(49:04):
the today and I sold one thisyear? Why did you know what you
were doing? No, she influencedme because she's the influencer. Okay,
cool, guys, if you're ifyou're gonna get in this industry. It's
simple, but it's not easy.You have to understand what it's gonna take.
Oh, I mean you mean Igotta call people every day that's gonna

(49:28):
take four or five hours to do. Well. Well my phone bill?
I have to I have to increasemy plan. That cost me money.
I made no holy shit, andshove me in it. Don't tell me
that people who are not doing thisbusiness professionally CC aren't business owners. I'm
a fucking business owner. I doten times more than you do, especially
in the network marketing industry, whichyou couldn't You couldn't find your way out

(49:52):
of what paper bag for? Anddon't tell me that the people who are
doing this business do not have thesame responsibilities, if not more than you.
You put on makeup, you complainabout things, and you tell people
not to do it, and thensay, go click my link for this
T shirt and slip gloss. You'rea trained monkey, that's all you are.

(50:14):
Tell us the explain this one.Joining a multi level marketing company can
have a negative impact on your lifefinancially, emotionally, and mentally. Although
these opportunities will be promoted and marketedto you, as if they are going
to bring you financial freedom, asif it's the solution to all of your
problems, and as if you'll havetime freedom as well. You'll be able
to work from home with your kids, You'll be able to have multiple streams

(50:37):
of income, and so on andso forth. Keep in mind, per
the FTC, the Federal Trade Commissionin the US, these multi level marketing
companies are not allowed to market themselvesin that way. However they still do
it, unfortunately more often than not. What will happen is once you so
start biling up, you should beyou should be using your influence to get

(50:58):
massive complaints to any company that doesn'tget him shut down. Right now,
you got one hundred thousand followers.You're on a channel, this guy one
point one million viewers. This videowas released two weeks ago. Get whatever
you see shut down, do it. File complaints like crazy. If you
believe so much of this, takeyour sphere of influence and power and shut
the motherfuckers down. If my companyis doing it, shut them down,

(51:22):
Come on CC, go ahead anddo it. We need you for this.
Join the company and get into it. What you've been promised is not
reality. What you've been marketed isnot actually how the inner workings of the
team you've joined or the company actuallyworks. And that how the team in
the inner company works is sell product, recruit people, sell product, recruit

(51:45):
people, sell crop products, recruitpeople. The business I'm in, I
could sell product all day long,never recruit people. I'll make decent money,
but I won't make the real moneythat I want to, So I
have to recruit people, recruit peopeople. Stop. It's like every goalpost
moves with these influencers who are tryingto sit there and talk about MLM when
all they have to say is listen, this is how do you scare people

(52:08):
away from network marketing? You haveto sell product. Are you comfortable calling
people coldly that you don't know andtrying to get them buy the product that
you're not one hundred percent fully investorbelieve in yet? No, then don't
do it. Okay, all right, here's the second part. Are you

(52:28):
comfortable trying to recruit people for yourbusiness that you've been in for two days
for don't know anything about it?You? Are you comfortable with trying to
impress people enough, convince them,influence them, not manipulate them, Because
we don't do that. We don'twant it, but they do do it,
So I understand. Are you comfortableenough for that? No, then

(52:49):
don't do it because this business,the ultimate thing, is requiring you to
communicate with people and offer solutions fortheir problems. Oh here, back hurts,
here's my product. Oh you haveno money, here's my business opportunity.
Oh you don't know how to meetpeople, Come in our business opportunity
and go to the next convention wherethere's going to be all these men and

(53:09):
women there you can shake hands withon making new friends with. Like anything
else, network marketing is a business, and business's job is to solve people's
problems. CCY unlike you too.To be honest, there are people who
are involved this industry who are justunbelievably happy with being customers and getting the
opportunity to meet with other people becausethey don't have the time where they could

(53:30):
be friends with people like you andhave millions of people adorning you and CET,
you're so wonderful and they just wantto be part of fucking something and
you're shitting on it. You areso Instead of going back to the FTC's
study done on twenty thousand people fromWisconsin in nineteen eighty. Shut the fuck
up. You don't know what you'retalking about, and itself is a scam.

(53:53):
In these types of companies, itis pretty clear that if you are
able to make any sales of theproduct, will be making pennies. However,
if you are able to recruit peoplemonth after month and keep meeting requirements
which typically are extremely unattainable and unsustainablefor you, this is it's not the

(54:21):
benchmark for the lowest standard. I'mtalking the entry level for people to start
making money that could offset the costof what they get for their own products.
In other words, listen to mevery carefully. Success if every single
person made enough to cover the costof what they spent in their network marketing

(54:45):
company on the product alone, thereforethey are their own customer who they made
enough to pay for the product,and the product costs them nothing. That's
succeeding in network marketing number one,number two, That standard is so fucking
low it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.So again, this is all the bullshit

(55:06):
of this is great marketing. She'shyping up stuff. That's Oh, it's
you have to talk to fifty thousandpeople a month to do this. No,
you don't. Recruiting people is theway to go. Distributors are coached
and just to sell this opportunity andpromote these products and their new side hustle

(55:27):
to I always love this when sherolls her eyes and then she goes back
and forth with it's just the hairflip and oh my god, it's so
dramatic. Every business out there's jobis to sell their damn product. Waiters
and bartenders, you have to upsellliquor. Oh hi, see you see,
it's good to see it. Tonightyou got a night out with the
husband on a day here? Ohyou want a vodka tonic? Would you

(55:50):
like that as a Gray Goose ora Tito's Tonight? I'm suggestively nodding and
up selling so that instead of spendingI don't know what it is anymore,
seven fifty for a cravodka Cranberry,you're gonna now spend twelve to fifty out
tonight. Yeah, my boss ishappy now because I had suggestive selling abilities.
Hey, Czi, do you knowanybody else out there? You bring
anybody else in? Man, yournext round is gonna be on me.

(56:10):
Shit? Am I getting you torecruit people for me. Stop fucking acting
like recruiting is exclusive only to thenetwork marketing business. You look like a
fucking fool. What's known as theirwarm market first, which is their friends
and family and basically everyone you know. After they've completely obligated I agree with
you run through their stay away fromyour friends and family, talk about that

(56:34):
all time the way. They arethen encouraged to tap into their cold market,
which means people on social media thatmaybe you really don't talk to,
and basically just anyone you come intocontact with. That's where the trope of
the hay hunt or the hey girlmessage comes in, also known as the
girl from high school who bullied younow coming into your DMS saying that you
would be great at this new opportunityand you would absolutely kill it in the

(57:00):
I don't understand why you're why youhave such a problem with this type of
introduction. When ninety nine percent ofmen out there are gonna fucking lie to
try to get in a woman's pants, they're marketing themselves, right or women
a CCI go out in public withoutany makeup on, Go ahead, strip
all that salac paint off your face, go out looking like the skeleton painted

(57:22):
over by death that you are.Why are you marketing yourself to look like
something that you're not. It's marketing. McDonald's is probably carcinogen served in a
bun, But what do they do. I'm loving it, right, I
mean shit, I remember as akid all this stuff that we had for
McDonald's, which is so great.That's probably why I'm thirty pounds overweight,

(57:45):
because I fucking love my fast food. But my fast food, just like
the Cores light advertisement commercial, makesme think that life is gonna be so
damn great. And if all Ido is get a double triple, oh
my god, maybe a double quarterpounder, which, oh, it's only
eleven hundred calories, it's Grade Dmeat. It's gonna taste so good going

(58:06):
down. But shit, when Iwind up getting out binded up later and
have acid reflux in the middle ofthe night, thirty seconds that it took
me to eat it, damn thatwas worth everything. Stop with your horseshit
on marketing. If you have sucha problem with it, attack the porn
industry next, Attack the fashion industryafter that, Go after Hollywood, go
after any go after any established supplementcompany on the planet. Who uses influencers

(58:31):
on their social media get ten percentoff my code. You you're a fucking
fraud. You're put on a boatloadof makeup and act like you're a friend
of the women just to sell yourlit claus. Dude, it's all a
game. Don't act like you're nota part of it. Distributors are also
unfortunately encouraged to overshare and be veryvulnerable via social media, sharing their life

(58:57):
stories, their sob stories. They'rered. I don't know if I could
keep going this video. Does anybodyremember or CC talked about her miscarriage.
I don't want to be the assholein the room here, but nobody wants
to remember the time that she wasonline crying talking about her miscarriage. Heybody,

(59:20):
hello, Okay to richest stories sometimesexaggerating and don't get me wrong,
I am a fan of vulnerability andreal. However, things my girl Jessica
Hickson crying in every damn video sheever did well. A lot of times
people are pushed to share things thatthey never wanted to and then they end

(59:43):
up embarrassed. But they'll use thistactic, which is known as trauma dumping
or sad again. This is allhole based on the individual. This is
what you women do. See.The number one trauma dumper out there from
the ant community is Julie Joe.Julie Joe talking about her psychological issues and

(01:00:05):
her friggin title her social media iswalking on Lexapro. Lexapro is an antidepressant,
a severe antidepressant. She comes intalking to how can relate to women
and this and I'm trying to shieldyou guys from this very bad triggering stuff.
This is I don't know why thisis exclusive to the network marketing industry.

(01:00:28):
You in the anti MLM community,what you do is you suck people
in by trying to tell them you'rehere for them, you relate to them,
you want to be there for them. You told your own audience you
would not debate me because you wantedto protect them from my language. Okay,
mom, holy shit, trauma dumping. See, that's not my game,

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don't I don't need to do that. That's none of my business.
I don't care what you want towin through. I don't like mixing emotions
with business. People know on myteam, I said a bad day today,
put my dog down. I don'tfucking care. I told you in
the beginning. You come in asbusiness. I do not care about your
personal life. I can't afford tocare about it. This shit. The
problem I have is is the antiMLM community. They act like this is

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mutually exclusive for us and not them. Fishing in order to try to connect
to other people who maybe have similarstories and use that trauma to try to
connect with people to then ultimately recruitthem beyond the pyramid scheme. As I
said, MULTILEVELM mark dude, asa guy, we do that shit all

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the time. Wait a second,So you're saying that network marketing is I
got to relate to you on someform of trauma in order to get you
on my team. As a guy, is in my job to go yeah,
that's interesting, Yeah, right whenthe whole time I'm going, I
just want to fuck her. Ijust want to fuck her and leave.
Oh yeah, I guess, isn'tthat what I'm doing? Yeah? That's

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a oh you did that? Yeah? Yeah. Relatability isn't the key word
and maybe I'm stupid. Isn't theroot and key word in relationship, which
is what you're trying to form.I don't know if you've ever closed out
one of your videos or told yourfans I love you, which is one
of the stupidest things I've ever heard, because I don't know how you love

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people you've never met. Right,you're appreciative of them, But isn't the
key word for relationships to relate?And how can you relate unless you don't
establish commonality? Now I can't standthe kumbaya bullshit. My upline did it
years ago. I told her flatout, Man, I went to a
retreat or event. I'm like,I don't like this crap at all.
I'm not here to be all inmy feels and emotions. I can't fucking

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stand that. And then faith.Now I'm a christ follower, I'm not
a Christian. I think Christians aresome of the most hypocritical people on the
planet. There's some sick draw thatthe MLM community has to leverage Jesus in
your business. My former upline forthe last business I was in before going
back to what I'm at now,I declare my business with Jesus Christ.

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That's awesome, dude. I thinkyou should do that. It's all God's
money. Anyways, Malachi three ten, you know, go ahead. You
should learn how to tithe anything youmake should go back ten percent first to
what God wants. But I'm gonnatell you I don't leverage that shit because
atheist's money is green, Muslims moneyis green, Hindus money is green.
I'm not interested in your religion oryour sob story, but that's also what

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makes me different. I'm here forbusiness. I'm here to help you grow
and be successful. I don't wantto fucking get personal. Let's keep going.
Marketing companies can have a negative impacton your life financially. Not only
do all of these companies have starterkits of products or monthly fees that you
have to purchase to actually join thecompany or remain active, there's also annual
fees, website fees. The averagestarter kit is around two hundred dollars industry

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wide. And then also there's ongoingproducts that you'd be purchasing merchant how much
you if you spend on your camera, your ring light, your microphone,
your internet service. But I don'thave to do anything for YouTube. Okay,
I understand what you're talking about.That YouTube is also a distribution center.
They're making money off of you.As long as you put out content,

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you're responsible for content. You don'tget paid. You gotta put out
content every other day, or you'renot making money or you're irrelevant. So
it's taking up a lot of yourtime. Now, don't it's a disingenuous
bullshit. Costs this stuff again jandiceapps subscriptions, and also keep in mind
the money that they are receiving.If any. There's the Eyeroll marketing company

(01:04:36):
that is pre tax and pre expense, so you're looking at revenue and not
profit, which is extremely important tounderstand. Like I said, many distributors,
are you there are no sales?Are you suggesting that people before they
get involved with this, know whatbasic business is. I owned a gym
now my gym is a twenty sevenhundred square foot gym I owned in the

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Chicago area between twenty fourteen and twentyeighteen, and it was where I filmed
my YouTube videos for my YouTube channel. Now my YouTube channel which didn't write.
I didn't have to pay anything onYouTube. I had to have a
place to do my videos. Myrent was eighteen fifty a month. My
utilities were another three hundred dollars amonth. The equipment was several thousand dollars,

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The security, the insurance, allthat I had a monthly overhead every
single month that outweighed my YouTube channelthat didn't have to pay for. But
my YouTube channel I did make moneyoff of that that offset my rent.
I don't know, is this exclusiveonly to network marketing and MLM the business
costs and whatnot, because that's revenueand I barely profited, which was okay

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because I was a full time cop, so I didn't care. I was
specifically doing it for YouTube to buildmy brand. Why maybe it's generational.
I know she's only in her maybelate twenties, early thirties something like that,
so I know she does and getit. The video that got me.
No company cost charges you to buyin. When I fucking heard that
about that, This woman has noidea what she's talking about. She's a

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good scripted regurgitator of what the massconsensus thinks the network marketing is. She
has no experience requirements, but thereare. It's actually very silly that they
say this, because the only thingthat separates a multi level marketing company from
actually being classified as a straight uppyramid scheme is the fact that they have

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products and that there are personal salesrequirements. Every single month so then it's
not a pyramid scheme? Is itbecause a pyramid scheme? So I don't
know what? So again, whyare you keep using pyramid scheme when you
describe this? Thank you, youjust said it. Network marketing MLM multi
level marketing is not a pyramid scheme. There is a legitimate exchange of product

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for service, a product service formoney. Thank you, you just proved
network marketing is not a pyramid scheme. Good job. Just because you're not
calling it a sales goal and you'recalling it personal volume or group volume doesn't
mean that it means something different.It means the exact same thing. You
do have to meet certain requirements everymonth to be able to remain active and

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also to get paid as well,and to keep your rank and to keep
other benefits that you have within thecompany, if any other than apps and
subscriptions and monthly costs, merchandise,books, additional training seminars, flights and
travel costs, the conferences or othertrips which not a single one is required.

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You ready for this? One?Started with my company that I'm with
now March of twenty twelve, waswith for several years, branched off to
go explore the network marketing space andthen came back right to the company with
now you know that conference thing,and my upline hates this. I have
never once been to conference. WhenI came back to the company last year,

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I ran I on my uplines team. She's been running your team for
thirty or twenty years plus. Ihave been the fastest promoted rank in her
a team in twenty year history.Didn't go to conference, didn't go to
conference years ago. She hounds meall the time. You need to go
to conference. You to go toconference. No, I don't need to

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go to conference. I understand thevalue of conference, but I don't need
I don't like to fly, Idrive. I don't need to spend the
gas go there just to get chargedup over a company. I'm already charged
up about right now in my specificgoals, I do not need to go
or want to go to conference.Now, what that will do is that
will have her spend less time withme. It'll have other people who are

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of importance in the company spending lesstime with me because maybe they think I'm
not taking myself seriously or this businessseriously, even though I outrank most people.
You don't need to there's no need. You may get shunned, but
that's like anything else. That's likebeing a fucking professional athlete and your boy
only shows up to practice once aweek. It's like, I'm why would

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I invest in you at all?Stop lying? For the love of fucking
hate dude. So that you're takingthere are a lot of hidden costs that
come with it. Oh, there'snot a multi level marketing company. No,
there's might be thinking, well,if it costs so much money,
then why do people stay in it? If they are losing money? This
is where the sunk cost fallacy comesin. The sunk cost fallacy is basically

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when you either spend so much timeor money on something and your thought process
is, well, I've already spentthis much money, I've already spent as
much time. I might as wellkeep going. What business passion? Doesn't
it apply to restaurants, gyms,clothing lines, podcasts? What there's that?

(01:10:05):
You ever see the meme of thetwo guys digging for diamonds and like
one guy stops and turns around likeone more pickax swing away from a shitload
of diamonds, and the other guykeeps going at his diamonds right there.
It's like he's just gotta keep going. When do you say I'm done?
When do you say I'm done?So again, this is a false equivalency

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once again that there's no measure forcounter with the anti MLM crew because every
argument they put up put up it'sbased in either the loosest of facts like
the Wisconsin nineteen eighty twenty thousand personsurvey or their feelings. You have to
spend all this money, No,you don't. There is not one fact

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that can back up what she justsaid about all these hidden costs. No,
there's not. I don't know asingle company out there that says you
have to buy this app, youhave to pay for this, you have
to do this. No. Now, if it's almost like going to a
gym, all right, I wantto lose weight. Okay, Well there's
hidden agendas. You have to eatproperly, you have to lift weights,

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you have to lift heavier, youhave to show up five days a week,
you have to do cardio, youhave to do get a proper education.
There's nothing that says I can't goto a gym and just fucking walk
on a treadmill for twenty minutes aday and be satisfied with that. There
is no haf to. You'll bemore successful if you do everything I just
said versus walking twenty minutes a day. Stop the fucking lying. You guys

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are utter scumbags. You're just liarswho have no credibility to your argument because
you put up something online. Thisis the fallacy an individual's commit to sun
cost fallacy when they continue behavior orendeavor as a result of previous invested resources.
Time on Holy shit. If that'sthe case, then every profession athlete

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or kid who never made it intheir sports as a musician, as an
act go to. Then I guessevery fucker who is working in some diner
in LA who thinks they're going tobe an actor one day, but now
that Harvey Weinstein's no longer around ablow to get that promotion, I guess
they're all in this sunk costs offallacy too as well. Right, Stop

(01:12:24):
thinking that the corner market is ownedby network marketing. With this shit that
can be applied for any venture outthere. It's kind of like including yours.
How many people are trying to makea YouTube channel grow in this shit,
but they can't because they don't havethe looks, they can't articulate,
they don't have the reach, theydon't know the proper keywords to type in,

(01:12:45):
or the proper thumbnail to make,or what are you helping them?
You're a pioneer in this field.Are you making yourself retibily literally available to
the other people out there to furtherthe cause of network marketing? Or is
this capitalism and you're trying to makeall the fucking on yourself. Now,
I keep watching The Walking Dead becauseI've spent so many years watching it,
I might as well keep going eventhough it's garbage. Now, another aspect

(01:13:08):
of that's subjective. That's your opinion. Holy sh Why am I even continuing
with this? Because I'm a gluttonfor punishment. So you're saying, now,
I liked The Walking Dead, right, I watched it, So because
you didn't watch it, it wasa waste of time because you didn't like
it, that's your opinion. Everythingyou're saying is based off of opinion.

(01:13:32):
I'm hoping if you are watching this, you can see. All I want
to do is I want to counterall these people are saying because I know
that if you're watching this, you'regonna get bullies like this and anti MLM
community who claim they hate bullying,when that's all they are condescending, talking
shit about something that can be appliedto anything. Rest assure change MLM,

(01:13:54):
change network marketing, change affiliate marketing, direct marketing. You could come up
tomorrow and say I've got the bestI knit for housecats cable knit sweaters,
and I'm gonna branch them off,and this broad would come up with you
with this same fucking slide presentation andshow you and go, oh, this
a fela. How many? Howmany more years are you gonna sell your
cat cablet sweaters to people out there? It's cost sunk fallacy. You gotta

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get more absentence, there's hidden costsin it. Holy shit. It applies
to any business out there. Theonly difference is the recruiting factor. That's
all they fucking If you remove recruitingfrom network marketing, you'd be a full
time salesperson operating on one hundred percentcommission. None of these people would have
any damn problem with it. It'sthe recruiting they have a problem with,

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and they just don't flat out sayit that. When marketing, promotion and
social media comes into play is thatwith most of these multi level marketing companies,
you are encouraged to make a postannouncing your new side hustle, your
new business. So you've already toldall your friends about this. I think
I'm gonna I'm gonna let this playbecause I can't keep stopping her every five
seconds. None of what she hassaid is true in the sense of how

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she's presenting it. She is presentingthis as if it is a must.
It is one hundred percent fucking liescoming out of her mouth, and she
knows it. It's like saying,Cci, you have to get a good
camera to do YouTube. You haveto get good lighting, you have to

(01:15:25):
get audio. No, if youwant to really improve your equality of your
videos, yeah, get your goodlighting, get your good audio, get
your good relay system to wind upputting this out for your YouTube channel.
But you don't have to. Youdon't have to, So I'm going to
continue to let this play and I'llchime in when I feel like it.

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You've already tried to recruit all ofthem, and your family and other people
as well. You've already made multipleposts about it, so if you quit,
you're going to be seen as afailure. Right, so you might
as well just keep going and tryto make it work to prove everyone wrong,
to prove the hater is wrong andthe people who said that it was
a scam or that it was apyramid scheme. Okay, so now you
know MLM's are little the worse.Let's look abouts and taste brand. No,

(01:16:05):
they're the worse for weak people,And hopefully you'll be watching this content
saying shit, if I really doneed to go, I need to uh
have my shit all in a row. If I'm going to wind up doing
this business, I need to knowthis is business. I need to be
accountable, know where I'm gonna spendmy money. I'm gonna spend my money,

(01:16:26):
all that kind of stuff that Ijust same s E I n T
okay me, Well, you knowwhat, let's stop there, because I
know nothing about this company scent thatthey're going to be talking about. Here's
the brilliance of what they just did. She just set up the standard,
bad bad, bad bad. Nowthey're going to spend thirty minutes since income

(01:16:54):
disclosure recruitment process makeup artists. They'regoing to be spending the next thirty minutes
shitting all over this product. Now, what Robert Wels did was he recruited
Chelsea CC Suarez onto his YouTube channelto give her expectee expertise about how bad

(01:17:18):
network marketing is, so that anybodywho is a competitor of his thinking about,
well, Robert, why would Ispend X amount of hours on your
makeup brand when I can go toa cent. You just recruited CC.
You probably paid her so that shewould come on there to bash the shit
out of the industry, to crushyour sales competition. Holy shit, Robert,

(01:17:42):
did you just market? Is thatwhat you just did? Wow?
Damn kids, listen, I hopeyou enjoyed this. We're gonna start doing
this more often. There's not onedamn thing that CC said that is true
that it cannot be just completely destroyedwith Hey, here's the object, see

(01:18:04):
C Let's look what's behind it.There zero people or ninety nine percent of
people make zero dollars. Yeah,based off of a survey that had twenty
thousand people in nineteen eighty. Okay, we saw that one. You gotta
spend all this money, says,who show me one company? Shut man.

(01:18:25):
I would love to retract this I'llshut the fuck up if you can
show me one company that says youmust spend money and go to conference,
you must buy this app, youmust buy this website, all those hidden
costs you talk about, I wouldshow me who is requiring this and then

(01:18:48):
how that is counterbalancing their sales tomake it almost virtually impossible for them to
make money. Like you said,Yeah, yeah, kids, this was
fun. We're gonna be doing thesemore often. Live. You got any
questions about anything I can help you? Seven oh eight ninety two zero nine

(01:19:08):
seven four. You want to talkabout coming on my team and doing network
marketing with me seven o' eight ninetwo zero ninety seven four, Make no
mistake. I will try to sellyou and recruit you. I will try
to sit there and one hundred percentget your business and get you to join
my team so I can work forand with you. Other than that,
guys, remember, yeah, thisindustry is great. This industry has got

(01:19:29):
a lot of work ahead of it. But you know, we have people
like CC Suarez doing all the shitfor us. It makes it easier for
us to look good in the process. Have a great damn night, guys.
You have some integrity see on thenext video