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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey, well, it's a rainy day. Are you doing? Don't
you want to come hang out inside?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's what we're doing. We're hanging out inside Crow and
Wolf off of Herndon at one sixty eight. We're gonna
be here till seven o'clock talking Fresno State Baseball. If
you need some tickets for the next home series, come
let us know. The Dogs will host Nevada Conference opening weekend.
That's a week from Friday, but this weekend there in
Big Twelfth Country, fort Worth, Texas to.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Take on the Horn Frogs.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
To see you wait, back when that was a conference
rival of Fresno States. In fact, when I started to
in the games quarter century ago, TCU was in the
whack with Fresno State. Now the Frog's a perennial Omaha
contender out of the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We're gonna talk about that series.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
We talk about last weekend, a big win Sunday at
UC Santa Barbara. There was a game last night at
home as well. And we're gonna look ahead and look
backwards when we talk about Pete Biden Day, which is
coming up March fifteenth. And I've seen something already tonight
that I've never seen before in my life, so we'll
talk about what that is. I've seen coach Ryan Overlin
(01:29):
a few times. I remember seeing him back when he
was a freshman catcher from a Taska Darrow for the
Diamond Dogs many moons ago. Was that in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Two thousand and five, twenty years ago. Twenty years you
must be getting old now.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I get reminded of that more often than than i'd like.
But yeah, twenty years ago. At least, I'm not getting old. No,
you're not, absolutely as thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We've got another special guest going to join us here shortly,
a Hall of Fame coach here in the Valley, merv Carter,
who played on the very first Bulldog team to make
it to Omaha back in nineteen fifty nine the College
World Series coached by Pete Biden. So merv's going to
tell us a little bit about Pete as we prepare
to honor his legacy. The first of three legacy coaching
days at Fresno State March fifteenth is Pete Biden Day.
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April fifth, will be Bob Bennett Day April twenty sixth
Mike BATESL Day. The idea is, we want all Bulldog
fans to come in all of those, but if you're
someone who played for one of those incredible coaches, Fresno
State being the first school in college baseball history to
have three consecutive coaches post at least six hundred wins,
if you played for one of them, we want you
to come back and tell a few stories and honor
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the coach who made your career special at Fresno State.
So March fifteenth, Pete Biden Day, April fifth, Bob Bennett
Day April twenty sixth, Mike BATESL Day.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Pete first out of the gate because he was the
guy who got it started.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
When he came to campus back in nineteen forty eight.
And if you never met him, you can look at
that great Statue down the third baseline to get a
taste of the presence in the shadow he cast the
Fresno State.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But we'll hear some first hand memories from MERV.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Carter, who also I don't know if you remember this
Coach over Then, but Mrv's got a connection to your
series coming up at TCU as well.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, remember his grandson real well at a
Clovis North High School and made his way to the
horn Frogs.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
In fact, he's got one of the game programs with
his grandson on the cover of it that he brought
here tonight, so we can cover a lot of bases
when Coach Carter joins us. But we've got Coach over
then right now, and Coach, let's start with last night
because there are some Bulldog fans out there. You had
an earlier start time of five o'clock on a Tuesday
night against cal Poly and Larry Lee, who you've known
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most of your life, and the early innings that look
like a game that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Could go either way. Cal Poly had a left.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He had pitched three innings in his career, ended up
making it into the fifth on the mound.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You guys had some opportunities early to maybe get a lead,
and what.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Looked like great opportunities to score didn't end with as
many runs as you thought on a Tuesday night. Is
that still something that you you know, it sticks in
your crime. You get pretty frustrated with how do you
channel what you saw last night?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, I'm glad, that's well, not glad sarcastically where we're
starting there with almost coming up on twenty four hours
now reliving it last night and also this morning and
little meeting this afternoon with a team about some of
those things that came up. Yeah, it was obviously a
frustrating game that had a lot of opportunities. There are
three innings in a row with the runners on base,
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nobody out went out and only getting two runs out
of it. Some situations that are in your control as
a team that in the game of baseball, there's a
lot of things you can't control, but some situations there
that yeah, I got away from us a little bit,
and then that kind of changes a game. Now it
stays at five to two, and then they were extended
to seven to two, and then obviously we got one
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late that that wasn't enough. So those types of things,
I mean and just understanding what the team of you
got to You got to go attack things and go
win games and not just wait to hopefully make less
mistakes than the other team. And obviously we're on the
wrong side of that and continuing to move forward with that,
and we've played a tough schedule to this point for
that reason, to make sure that we're don't get away
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with some mistakes and all of a sudd now you
get in the conference, get into a regional, get into
the games that matter, and all of a sudden, they're
magnified when the better opponent you're going to play, the
less margin Ferrara, those have been and we've also been
kind of told that let the game tell us that
a little bit, and we're gonna get another really good
challenge of that this weekend.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Sure are at TCU Friday, four o'clock. Our time will
be the first pitch Saturday. It'll start at noon Sunday
at eleven am. We're here at Crowing Wolf. If you've
never been here, it's just off a herndred in one
sixty eight. I know it's raining outside, but we're nice
and cozy inside.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The bar has whatever you want to drink.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Outside We've got a couple of food trucks here tonight
and they even have a tent so you can stay
dry while you or sauced Up Barbecue is here tonight,
and Pizza Yolo, a pretty popular Italian truck. Pizza Yolo
and saut Up Barbecue your trucks tonight. And if you're
into singing, karaoke starts as soon as we wrap up.
We're stealing an hour of the normal Wednesday night karaoke
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time here at Crow and Wolf. So think about what
you want to sing. I know Jim and Dug are
going to sing a duet or maybe Tom's going to
join him for a trio tonight. Well, we'll listen for
the three part harmony coming up. I'm not going to
ask coach over them to sing. You were talking about,
you know, the game last night. Obviously some teachable moments,
some things to be disappointed with, frustrated with, channeling into
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improvement in the future. It's a team in cal Poly
has played a tough schedule too. In fact, did something
similar to what you're doing this weekend, went all the
way to the lone Star State and beat a really
well funded program, got to win from at that point
the number one team in the country Texas A and M.
But the Mustangs are also the team that you grew
up pretty close to on the Central Coast. You went
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to their baseball camps. We've talked about Larry Lee and
his influence on you. Does it feel any different when
you're going up against the Mustangs.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean that's going up going to games. And
I was, like you said, knowing coach lead back to
I mean he was a head coach Atquesto and I
was four or five years old going to his baseball camps,
and yeah, it's a it's an honor to, you know,
be on the other dugout aside from him, one of
the greatest coaches in California history. What he's done at
doxy the junior college level in his twenty years at
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cal ply his team's his teams are going to be
well prepared. I mean it came obviously hit and run
that first pitch, you know another you're going to get
that type of stuff from. So yeah, a lot of
familiarity with not only the program for myself and coach
Price growing up around the program, but also just over
the years playing them as well.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, your third base coach Richie Price. His father rich
Price was Larry's predecessor there at cal Poly, and the
must will be back at the end of the month.
That's gonna be a Monday afternoon game, March thirty first.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, Monday, two oh five. I believe Caesar Chaves Day
on a holiday. Yeah, we'll play them on a holiday,
a little different, different look during the day on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It'll be a quick turnaround. We'll be at San Jose
over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
On Sunday, they'll be up at Davis, I believe, So
come down after the night there and hopefully be a
little more ready to play than we were.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
The first couple inning yesterday.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Sounds like a plan, and you're definitely gonna need to
be ready to play Friday at TCU.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Against the horn Frogs.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
We're gonna talk more about that series and we're going
to have mrv Carter join us as well. But over
the weekend, you played three really good games, really tight games,
really intense games, three games.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That felt like playoff games at least to me.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And you're playing a team that's going to be in
a regional somewhere, may end up hosting a regional like
they did last year, the UCSB Gauchos, and when you
got there, nobody had beaten UCSB in a weekend game
since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You had a chance Friday almost did it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Saturday you end up losing an extra innings, and I
know it's just one out of three that you got
the win in, but did it almost feel a little
more satisfying the way you guys had to do it
to overcome heartbreakers Friday and Saturday and then gut check
moments Sunday find a way to get it done.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I mean, obviously the goal of the weekend was not
to go in and win one and lose the series.
I mean we went there with the attentions of taking
two out of three, if not winning all three when
you go there and obviously having the opportunity to do
it with a really tight game on Friday, and you know,
one plague goes your way real against you, real quick,
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and then the two run home run right after, and
then not only for our guys to come back with
what Crimerosa did after his start the weekend before and
giving us what he did, but also just the team
in general after being down six nothing in the first
on Saturday, came back, got the lead, had some opportunities
to extend it and then even get a run when
it was tied there. And then to come back and
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win a close game like that. Yeah, I mean, you
leave there, go under two plays away from sweeping them,
but you're also one play away from getting swept.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And that's what high.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Level college baseball is, especially when you're playing really good
coach teams on the West Coast and gonna pitch like
Santa Barbara. Did I mean that's Friday Bremner. That's a
top fifteen pick in this year's draft. Flora might be
the same next year. Came out of the hit one
hundred miles an hour a couple of times in that
first inning. That's two of the best arms in college baseball.
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That that obviously we would have loved to have left
their winning the series. It's not a good taste to
you know, just leave them with one. It's better than none,
obviously getting the win on Sunday, but there's definitely a
lot of experience and some things in that series that'll
carry our guys through the rest of the year that
they you wouldn't get that playing a you know, maybe
a lesser opponent that you away with some of those
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mistakes and still find a way to win because the
other team made more mistakes. You got to play, You
got to play clean throughout, You got to pitch well
and play good defense. That for the most part, we
did for the weekend. Just a couple of plays here
and there changes it. But that's that's what college baseball is.
You got to be on the right side of.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Them, and you'll have something similar this weekend. Going to TCU,
a program that has been to Omaha a lot in
the last decade.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's very well funded, has a ton of talent.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Was in the top twenty five and till losing two
out of three this last weekend at home to Southern
miss Looking forward to that, we'll preview that series a
little more. But in terms of the U see Santa
Barbara series and the Gauchos were ranked nineteenth when you
played them. I haven't checked all the latest rankings this year.
I know this week, I know they moved up to
like fifteen or sixteen in one of the polls. Obviously
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a highly regarded opponent you were up against. Were there
any other situations that your team encountered there in Santa
Barbara over the weekend that you can look at now
and say, you know what, it might be good in
the long run or beneficial for this team to have
faced that kind of challenge in this situation, and it's
gonna pay dividends down the line.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean definitely, you know, facing that type of pitcher.
I mean, you get into a regional, everybody's good, and
everybody's got an ace, and that's who you want to
win the first game of a regional. That's the type
of arm you're gonna have to face. And you know,
had some runners on those first couple of innings, got
a couple of guys to third base less than two
outs and didn't didn't get them in. And that's in
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those games you're gonna win, gonna be three to two,
You're not. You're not gonna get six to seven off
those types of guys. So executing in those times comes
down with the one or two pitch, you know, and
then obviously you know the defensive mishap that leads to
the two run home run that that can be the
change in those games. So experiencing that, knowing what that
feels like, and even for some of the guys with
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a little less experience in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
For you know, j T.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Carrero to throw those innings on Friday, you know relatively well,
didn't go perfect, But that's again, you don't get that
in the other type of situation. For Hay to come
in on Sunday get the last seven outs in that
type of environment, you don't get that in a lot
of places.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, he was flawless.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Didn't allow a base runner to get that first career
save on Sunday. We're talking to coach Ryan Overland here
and Crow and Wolf the Bulldog Baseball Hour with you
till seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Would love to see you come join us if you
like pizza.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Pizza Yolo is here the other food truck tonight sauced
up barbecue, and you can stick around afterwards for a
little karaoke Here at Crow and Wolf.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
With James Johnson running the show.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I want to ask you one more thing before we
take the break here last night's game, I know it
wasn't the results you wanted. There were some moments. Sky
Collins got to hit his first career home run, But
how about the freshman that you stuck at shortstop? He
has started a game of d AGE the previous Tuesday.
This first time he started a game at shortstop in
his college career. And not only does Owen Foules handle
the defensive side man, he took some really impressive at bats.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, really well, owens to taking some really good at
bats in the short time getting in there. The start
last week at d H and he's put the ball
in the barrel all eleven at bats and got on
base six times, and put the ball in the barrel
four times yesterday, and was you know, the first guy
to kind of jump a fastball yesterday like we should
have been from the beginning and hit that double, And
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especially it was good to see the defense too. He
looked comfortable, and you know he's been the state at
shortstop more kind of out of necessity as the team
then maybe it gives him the best chance to get
on the field as a freshman.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But he's handled it well.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And you'd like to see guys get rewarded like that
when they get the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He keeps doing that, he's going to be hard to
keep off the field. Yeah, find a way in there somehow.
Keep doing that.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
The kind of problems coaches love to have. He's Coach
Ryan Over. Then he's with us here at Crow and
Wolf here till seven o'clock tonight when we come back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Coach Over then played in the College World Series and
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Speaker 2 (14:52):
Thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But almost a half century before that, another young man
who's with us tonight was playing in Omaha for the
Diamond Dogs. To talk to him about the legacy of
Pete Biden, and he knows a thing or two about
the Dog's opponent this weekend TCU as well. Come join
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Speaker 3 (18:17):
Welcome back to the Bulldog Baseball Hour. We're here at
Crowing Wolf here till seven o'clock. Crowing Wolf, if you've
never been, is just off a hundred at one sixty eight.
It's well inlaid it in here so it's nice and warm.
The food trucks are outside tonight. Your selections are Pizza
Yolo and sauced up Barbecue. I didn't have a chance
to look through the menus, but I've seen people eating
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some pretty good stuff from both of those food trucks.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And then they.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Have karaoke here at Crowing Wolf tonight. So you know,
actually I've heard Coach over that, and I've never I
don't know if you've ever heard this. Have you ever
heard about Pete Biden's love for singing.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Here and there? Here and there? I don't know that
I know lot of details, but here and there I
never got to hear them sing.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
But we've got someone with us now who certainly did
and before I introduced him, let me throw you under
the spotlight again here, Coach Overlin. Have you heard many
stories about the first Diamond Dog team to ever make
it to Omaha back in nineteen fifty nine?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Not enough? Not enough?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I have heard some, but that type of stuff I
could listen to all day. And for what Coach Biden's teams,
what they've meant to this program and the players that
were on that team, and what they've meant to the
program building forward, I could hear those stories all night.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, we've got a little bit of time and we
have someone who can tell some of those stories. And
this is what's special about the Fresno State baseball program.
There's a lot of schools that have been to the
College World Series. There aren't too many who had a
team in the College World Series. Let me do the
Matthew real quick, coach, what is that sixty six years ago?
And still have players from that team actively engaged in
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the program and coming to games. And merv Carter is
not the only one. If you go to the next
home series, I'm sure you'll see Stan Bush at the
dugout Club table trying to make sure you're a member
of the Dugout club and maybe as a hat or
a book for you. You'll see other members of those
Pete Biden teams on March fifteenth, and we have Pete
Biden Day, the first of three coaching legacy days. Put
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them all on your calendar right now. They're all Saturday afternoon,
three o'clock games. March fifteenth is Pete Biden Day. April fifth,
Bob Bennett Day April twenty six Mike Bates Al Day.
So coach MERV Carter and I got to call you
that because you're in the Fresno County Athletic Hall of
Fame for your coaching career, not just at Clovis High,
but McClain High sent the Diamond Dogs pretty good shortstop
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who went on to play in Omaha too. Huh, Jason Wood,
that was one of your guys. Just make sure your's
microphone's on here and well here you.
Speaker 13 (20:56):
Yeah, he was one of my guys. Key And the
thing I'm really proud of. We had mighty mouths at
second base.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Too, Phil Romero.
Speaker 14 (21:04):
Phil Romero.
Speaker 13 (21:05):
So when you get two kids out of the same
high school starting to shortstop and second base, for Fresno
State and they made it to the College World Series.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They must have had a pretty good high school coachw
coach over they I'd say so, but let's go back
MERV Because I mentioned singing, it's karaoke night here. I'm
not going to ask you to.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Sing thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Maybe maybe I should no, But I hear that Pete
Biden every once in a while would burst into song.
Or on some of these bus trips he tried to
get the whole bus or the whole van singing.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How did that work?
Speaker 13 (21:40):
Well, that was later on maybe when we we didn't
have busses.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
We drove in cars.
Speaker 14 (21:46):
Uh huh, you know, and sometimes in.
Speaker 13 (21:49):
A car, if you were in his car, you would
get some singing from them. But uh, we had some
wild drivers. Sometimes we were laying on the floor back
afraid of who's driving our car. But luckily we made
most of the trips and we had a good time.
Speaker 14 (22:07):
And but back in the day, it wasn't like we
flew anywhere.
Speaker 13 (22:14):
When we went to Washington in the playoffs to play
University of Washington to see who would go to the
College World Series, that was probably the first plane trip
for all of us.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Wow, so after you survived all those car trips. Yes,
Now I've got to ask Coach over and if you
think back to your team in two thousand and eight,
coach that won the College World Series, you think of
the guys on that team, how do you think it
would have been if you guys had to take cars
to all your road games.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
That'd be a different story for sure. But time like
being guys first plane trips. There's usually one or two
a year. We'll have a freshman that I'll joke about,
is this your first plane trip? And usually somebody goes,
yeah it is. But yeah, I mean by Coach Price
of myself those days at South Dakota State made some
serious bus trips, so I know that's a little different.
(23:09):
Now we have the bus ride just to Reno or
to Vegas. Sometimes six seven hours feels like a long
long trip. That's a whole other world. You're talking fifteen
to twenty hour bus ride.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, it's like being in the minor leagues or something.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
We're talking to Coach Ryan Overland of your Fresno State
Diamond Dogs and former Bulldog merv Carter, who played on
the first Diamond Dog team to make it to Omaha
way back in nineteen fifty nine, and Coach Overlin, if
you have questions for merv feel free to jump in too.
I'm just wondering when you first came to Fresno State,
and we have to talk about what you brought for
(23:42):
Coach Overland to night too. But when you first came
to Fresno State, who is this Pete Biden character and
what kind of impression did he make on you?
Speaker 14 (23:50):
Well? First, first off, I met.
Speaker 13 (23:55):
Coach Biden at the University of California in Berkeley. They
were plane col Presnel State was and so I was
with my coach, George Poles, and my dad and he
came over to the.
Speaker 14 (24:13):
Stands, to the edge of the stands. He was in
his uniform and everything. And the first thing he did
him was.
Speaker 13 (24:19):
Grabbed me by the wrist and says, Coach Poles tells
me you're pretty good, pretty good, And I said, yeah,
thank you. He says, well, we want you to come
down to Fresnel State.
Speaker 14 (24:31):
I want to see how good you are.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
And that was my first introduction to Pete. And then
the next time I talked to him, I was down here.
I had got a room in the tower district in
a boarding house, thinking that Fresnel State was still at
City College. And then I found out Nold they had
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just moved out the Shaw and I didn't have a
car or anything when I came down here, and so
I was l three days late to practice. I didn't
even know we didn't have cell phones, of course.
Speaker 14 (25:14):
But started class.
Speaker 13 (25:15):
I barely got around the school with bumming a ride
and taking the bus, and he says, where you've been,
lad Barria, Go get some clothes so we can work
you out. So Soupy Holmes, he gave me all this
stuff that I think used to be Pete's. Pete had
a big sweatshirt and then hang off his shoulder, and
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I was one hundred and forty pounds. So I go
out there with a size forty pair of pants, old.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Wool socks, Pete Biden's shirt and the hat was size eight.
And so he said, well, let's go take some fly balls.
Speaker 13 (25:59):
So he sends me out there, and Mike Matheson and
Jerry White they're laughing at this skinny guy that couldn't
keep his hat on, had a belt tied, So hold
my pants up and he hits me fly balls and
runs me back and forth and brings me in.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
He says, very god there where you get those clothes?
Speaker 13 (26:23):
I said, get them from your your equipment, man, he says, well,
you can't dress like that on my field, but your
fly ball pretty good. So that was my first introduction
to Pete Biden coach over and you feel like you
know Pete Biden a little better.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Now, but a little bit. Yeah, it'd be a little
different story today. Somebody showed up three days later.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's right, wearing size forty pants and I had that
won't stay on. It's amazing you found all those fly
balls that he hit you with that famous fungo and
that's we need to take a break. But you hit
on something there. He referred to you as Bay Area
because that's where you were from. I was from Oakland,
And he had some other colorful nicknames for people, but
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a lot of times he didn't from what I understand,
he didn't usually call guys by their actual name.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
No, you might be deflopper, you might be Barria or Valeo.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Is that what he called Augie Girta Valeo?
Speaker 14 (27:25):
Valeo?
Speaker 13 (27:26):
Uh huh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Well Valeo turned out okay too.
Speaker 14 (27:29):
Yeah, you got a number.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
Of players out of Valao and knowing then up and
down the valley.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Lots of history with Fresno State Baseball, and that's one
of the reasons that Pete biden Day and Bob Bennettey
and Mike Bates all day are there to remind people
of what a special baseball program this is. We'll talk
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we come back. If you've got a question for either one,
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Right off for a Herndred at one sixty eight the
Bulldog Baseball Hour Tonight. Coach Ryan Overland kind enough to
come out, even though he's got an early flight to
the Metroplex in Texas.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Dogs take on TCU the horn Frogs Friday at four
Saturday at noon Sunday at eleven our time, of course,
at Central time there in Texas. We've been talking to
Coach Overland and another outstanding.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Coach, MERV.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Carter, who played on Fresno State's first College World Series
team back in nineteen fifty nine, played for the great
Pete Biden, who will be honored March fifteenth. The legacy
of Pete Biden will be on display. If you know
someone who played for Pete Biden, make sure they're there
March fifteenth. Anybody who played for Pete gets a free ticket,
a free commemorative hat. And we'll do the same for
Bob Bennett and Mike Bates a little bit later on
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in the season. Coach Carter, you brought something today that
I just saw you hand to Coach over then that
I hadn't seen before. I mean, I've seen some things
like it, but that autograph on that authentic wooden baseball
bet you have there is one we don't see too
much anymore.
Speaker 14 (32:35):
Yeah, old Mickey Mantle bet.
Speaker 13 (32:38):
You know when it's got Frisno State stamped on it.
And I brought it to the coach. I thought, I
think keep it as a souvenir, use it at a
raffle or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Does that mean anybody uses it has to switch hit
since it says Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 13 (32:55):
Other Well, you know, he was a pretty special guy
out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I imagine as you being an outfielder playing in
the nineteen fifties at Fresno State, that's probably a guy
you admired a little bit.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 13 (33:11):
No, I've was very fortunate. You know, the Giants came
to San Francisco when I was coming down here in
fifty eight, so I always had to go home and
work to pay.
Speaker 14 (33:26):
For school the next year, and so.
Speaker 13 (33:30):
I got to go to some of the Giant games
and sit in the right field bleachers for two dollars
to see the Giants play.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Uh huh.
Speaker 14 (33:40):
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Two dollars, two dollars to watch?
Speaker 13 (33:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Ooh, coach over then, you ever seen a back quite
like that before. That's a first for me.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
That's a pretty unique and something I don't think I
would have expected to see Fresno State and Mickey Mantle together.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So thank you, coach. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, and we were talking about Pete Biden.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
We can come back around.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
To that, but let's talk about this series this weekend
TCU A program. It's funny how small the world of
college baseball is And here's one of Fresno State's Paul
of Fame alumni, merv Carter, who's got a connection to
TCU and coach Overlin. Even the horn Frog coaching staff
has some connections and cross pollinations to Fresno State.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, their assistant coach, coach Moseelo, played at Fresno State
and he was the assistant at TCU for a while,
left for a couple of years be the head coach
at Ohio State, and now back there, so they got
some familiarity. It's only Fresno State, but West Coast baseball
in general with their head coach, coach sar Lewis at
a time at Fullerton and littly pitching the Big Leagues,
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and coach Lawn, who had been a lot of schools
on the West Coast for a very long time. So
there's a lot of West Coast baseball connections with this team.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Coach Lawn was even in your league for a while
at Nevada. Was he in New Mexico too for a minute.
It's just Nevada, I think Nevada and coach Carter. Uh,
you know a thing or two about TCU, So tell us.
What your connection is there to the horn frogs and
what Bulldog fans who might be going this weekend can
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expect from that setting for college baseball, the environment, anything
else that you.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Want to share.
Speaker 13 (35:25):
Well, my connection is basically I have a grandson, middle grandson.
Speaker 14 (35:32):
I'm my youngest daughter, and.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
He graduated from the University of Oregon but had a
COVID year left and uh he decided after going into portal,
he chose TCU because his brother was in Texas and
his younger brother was going to TCU, and so he
ended up pitching that year in twenty twenty two, and
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they won the Big Twelve championship, and he ended up
starting thirty one games. Between being at the University of
Oregon and at last year at TCU, I'm thirty eight.
He had thirty eight starts in Division College one baseball.
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And so this last year at TCU, I learned in
twenty two the field there, the ball carries, they like
to steal bases. They're good hitting team and a good
defensive team, and they recruit real well, and so you're
going to have a tough road to Hall.
Speaker 14 (36:47):
That's all I can tell you about them.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's pretty spot onto what we've seen so far.
Speaker 13 (36:52):
Are you ready and the fans come out and support them?
You know sometimes early season they're not there, but I
think they'll recognize the Bulldogs come in to play, and
I'm sure they're going to have a good crowd.
Speaker 14 (37:08):
If the weather's good.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And Coach Overlin remind me, am I forgetting something or
is this the first time the Diamond Dogs have played
a game in Texas since you were playing and Rice
was still.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
In the whack? Maybe Texas A and M twenty fifteen.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I didn't go on that trip with tex A and
M in twenty fifteen. I'm glad to see. That's why
I asked you. I was doing a basketball game somewhere.
I didn't get to go to that. And you've played
plenty of big time teams. Do you notice a difference, like, say,
going up against TCU this weekend compared to some teams
you'll see in the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Do you know it's a difference in the.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Level of depth that this big twelve, well funded TCU program.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Is going to have this weekend.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, I mean it'll start on the mound really, with
the depth of pitching and the velocity the bodies and
the velocity that you'll see in the South and in
Texas there's a little more abundant and with a lot
more kids staying in school in those regions of the country,
with not only some menil opportunities to compete with major
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league signing bonuses, but just kids growing up wanting to
go to a TCU, wanting to go to a University
of Texas, that type of thing. So the depth on
the mound that the team speed will definitely be the
thing that'll stick out. This will be by far the
fastest team will play all year, which is routine.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Girn balls.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
You know, we're gonna infielder's got to be ready for
the speed to play and obviously, like a coach said, they'll.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Be ready to steal some bases.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And it sounds like you're excited about that challenge and
maybe see some benefit in the long term for your
team to go up against the squad like that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah, it's gonna be a really good challenge and again
one more opportunity to really play the game and have
a really good opponent to kind of exploit your weakness
to a little bit in some things that maybe you
wouldn't get that in some other environments. And you know
they're opening weekend last week. There's fifty five hundred people
on Friday and Saturday, so it'll be a good loud environment.
That again, you know, playing with the expectations of getting
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in the NCAA tournament and playing in a regional that's
the type of environment you're going to be. So that's
I'm excited for our guys to go compete and get
after him and come home with a series win.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Sounds like a plan.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Friday at four, Saturday, at noon, Sunday at eleven, the
game time's our time here in the valley, and we've
got another twenty minutes here at Crowing Wolf tonight here
till seven o'clock the Bulldog Baseball Hour. Come hang out,
stay around for karaoke if you want. Coach Overland is here,
MERV Carter is here. We'll talk some more about Pete
Biden and the twenty twenty five Diamond Dogs when we
come back. If you've got a question we haven't asked yet,
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be like Robert, I'm gonna read his question when we
come back. There are some other questions that might be
coming in. We'll pass them on to coach Overland and
to our special guest, former bulldog nerv Carter, come join
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We're here at Crowing Wolf tonight till seven o'clock talking
Fresno State Baseball.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
The Diamond Dog's. The next home series is March fourteenth
through sixteenth.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
That'll be the conference opening weekend against Nevada and the.
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Saturday game March fifteenth at three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
First pitch is going to be the first in a
series of three coaching Legacy Days celebrating the incredible tradition
of Fresno State Baseball, the first school in college baseball
history to have three straight coaches win six hundred games
at that school. So Pete Biden Day is up first
March fifteenth. If you know someone who played for Pete,
make sure he's there on March fifteenth. Every year we've
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done this, it's been neat to see.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
And you know, I realized Merv Carter.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
We have Merv Carter here along with Coach Overlin because
Merv played for Pete Biden in fact, played in that
College World Series in nineteen fifty nine. What I realized,
Coach is, as we get ready for this, there were
guys that were at last year's Pete Biden Day or
the one we did before that, that aren't with us anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
And that's why it's so important for guys to come right.
Speaker 14 (44:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 13 (44:12):
I mean, our numbers are dwindling and some of them
now aren't in good health.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Well, we're really glad you could come here and represent today,
and I'm sure Coach Overland would love as much as
I would to hear a story about that nineteen fifty
nine team, I do want to pass on a question
at coach Overland that came in on the ex app
Robert wants to know.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
He used that hashtag ask fs.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
He said, given how they've done in the midweek games,
will Tyler Patrick and Owen Fouss get a chance to
play on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean, obviously that's with your younger guys and seeing
how they handle the environment and how they handle when
the lights come on is a big piece to that,
and kind of getting them in the right opportunities early
and for Allen taking some really good abouts and like
I said earlier, more importantly the way he played defense
look comfortable and made some really nice plays on defense.
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That you want to keep rewarding guys of getting them
back out there. And you know, the competitor Tyler Patrick
is he's gonna pitch some big outs for us and
get some big innings. So yeah, obviously you want those
guys to keep developing into bigger roles, and the guys
earn spots and keep developing into more as the season
goes on.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Usually, most good teams.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
You got guys come on from something maybe you didn't expect,
or a guy has a career year, or you know,
really step on to a role maybe you didn't expect.
And so far those two guys are two good candidates
for that.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Oh, we'll look forward to more of those youngsters on
the diamond. Back in the late nineteen fifties, Merv Carter
was a youngster who came to Fresno State from the
Bay Area played for the great Pete Biden. You told us,
Merv that when you guys went up to Seattle for
the NCAA playoffs that year in nineteen fifty nine for
a spot in the College World Series, is the first
time you guys had been on an airplane.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Then you get to go to Omaha. What kind of.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Spectacle was the College World Series in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 13 (46:06):
Well, you know, we played at the old Rosenblatt Stadium
and they didn't have seats in the outfield, just down
the right field line. But it was a big ballpark.
I think it was a Triple A ballpark at the time.
And the fans, though, were fantastic.
Speaker 14 (46:27):
Even then.
Speaker 13 (46:28):
Back then, we expected who's going to know about Fresno State. Well,
we land and there's a bunch of fans there to
greet us, and they put us in convertibles and we
were sponsored by a nursing school and they drove us
in the town.
Speaker 14 (46:48):
Then the next day.
Speaker 13 (46:50):
They have a ticker tape parade around the city of
Omaha and people throwing confetti out the windows. And so
we were and here we are, you know, at all
with the whole thing even being there, and we had
no idea what it would be like, you know, And
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so you know, we were the first state college team
to ever play from the state of California to go
It was always you know, USC or Stanford or Coal
you know in those days, that especially USC, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And a lot of people don't realize how many College
World Series Pete Biden probably would have gone to if
it were handled the way it is now, because it
was a truly regional format.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
So there are a lot of years he had a team.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
That was number two in the country or number three,
but had to play number one just for a spot
to go to Omaha, whether that was USC or Santa
Clara in some years.
Speaker 14 (47:53):
Right, and sometimes it didn't matter where.
Speaker 13 (47:58):
Fresno State was okay, because it was like Rod Dadel
was the area commissioner so to speak, and the coach
down there at SC and so he got to pick
and choose, like what four teams would represent them to
go play two games or three games series and then
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play the next week and then that was the Omah.
It wasn't like a whole bunch of teams playing back then.
It was really a limited schedule.
Speaker 14 (48:36):
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
There are plenty of politics involved now, but it was
a little more political.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh yeah back then.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
And what you guys did, I'm glad you brought up
the fact that you were the first California state school.
So really what you guys did in nineteen fifty nine
kind of paved the way for the cal State Fullertons
of the world, for other teams that have had a
chance to go there since then. And you talked about
the parade before you played a game there, Coach Overlin,
correct me if I'm wrong, But when you want it
all in two thousand and eight, you guys had to
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wait till after you want it all to get a parade,
didn't you.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
That's what I was going to say. Must have felt
like you had already wonted and you hadn't even stepped
on the field. But yeah, that's a that's a cool
story and something i'd you know, enjoy hearing because obviously
when we went by two thousand and eight, it's such
an ESPN spectacle. You've seen it on TV and you
kind of know what to expect, and for us it
was a little bit of getting there and we're there
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what we've seen on TV, and for you guys kind
of not really sure where you're going and what.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
You're getting into.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
That's a that's a cool story to hear what it
was like and the expectations going into it.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
And the way it ended up is quite a story too.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Have you ever heard that coach over then about why
Fresno State was third in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I believe I've heard a story of a misplayed ball
that was late in one of the games or point
point clip.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
We've got to have coach Carter tell you the story,
but we've got to at our last break. Then we'll
hear it from the horse's mouth. Nerv Carter, former Bulldog,
is with us. His coach Pete Biden's legacy will be
honored March fifteenth. Don't miss that at Pete Biden Field
at Bob Bennett Stadium, and if you're in a hurry,
you can catch us before we leave here at Crow
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Bulldog Baseball Hour on the Bulldog Sports Network from their field.
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Well, we're almost out of time on the Bulldog Baseball
Hour tonight coming down the home Strategic Crow and Wold.
If you missed us tonight, maybe you can catch us
next time. I know everybody here is having a good time,
not only inside, but they're getting their food outside.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Those food trucks are a big hit, saust Up Barbecue
and Pizza Yolo.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Some of them are waiting for karaoke, which starts in
about seven minutes. But before we run out of time,
we got to get the rest of this story. Coach Overlin,
who helped the Diamond Dogs win a national championship in
two thousand and eight, hasn't heard the story of the
nineteen fifty nine College World Series and why Fresno State
finished third, not first or second.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
So, Murph Carter, you were on that team.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Did it really come down to a coin flip to
decide and we played.
Speaker 14 (54:08):
For the absolutely? Yes, you know.
Speaker 13 (54:12):
It came down to Arizona, University of Arizona, Fresno State,
and Oklahoma State. We all finished the first rounds at
three and one. We had eight teams back there and
the three of us, and we had a great left hander,
Leroy Gregory beat Arizona who was undefeated at the time.
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He threw a shut out against him, two to nothing.
So it came out three of us at three and
one records. They flipped the coin and the one that
had the odd man out got to buy so we
ended up having to play Oklahoma State and go with
our number five pitcher against their number one ace because
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of the rotation in and then uh, Oklahoma State came
back and beat Arizona anyway, and they won the College
World Series. But that's how we finished third. We lost
the flip and lost the game.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Paul, I got a I got a question that's gonna
the coaching side of me of a coin flip to
the side a three team tiebreaker. Did you have a
three sided coin? How do you clip a coin for
three teams? You've obviously me versus you, the verse him,
and it was the odd one.
Speaker 13 (55:32):
It was all three flipped and I think it's two
heads and one tail, and the tail was them.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
So was coach Biden there for the the flip or
he had a representative or that's what I was thinking
of the results, I don't.
Speaker 13 (55:47):
We had a couple of assistant coaches, you know, one
one was a student coach, and one Bill Harbor, who
came out of the service and helped Peak for a
few years.
Speaker 14 (56:01):
But basically, you know, in those days, we had one coach.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
He did it all.
Speaker 14 (56:07):
I mean, Pete was a master of pitching, catching, and defense.
Speaker 13 (56:16):
And scouts and major league organizations. He spent a year
going to spring training and they would tell him, Coach,
if we got a kid from Frisnell State, we knew
that he knew how to play baseball and do.
Speaker 14 (56:32):
It right because of you. And that's the kind of
coach Pete was.
Speaker 13 (56:37):
A lot of people said he was kind of gruff
and he's tough, but no, when he wanted to say
something to correct you, he had a holder you like
hand on your arm or hold onto your shoulder. He
was a great man and a sweet man, but a
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tough guy, and he wanted to win, and he wanted
us to love the game and teach the game correctly.
And out of our roster of about twenty five guys,
I think eighteen of us became coaches.
Speaker 14 (57:14):
Wow out for fifteen nineteen, okay.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
And one of them was for a while the winning
this coach in college baseball history.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Wow, you bet you what a story.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
I wish we had more time, coach, But on Pete
Biden Day, March fifteenth, I hope you'll come out and
have some of your teammates. We'll have you up in
the booth tell some more Pete Biden stories. Boy, so
many places we could go as we get one last
question in for you will make it easy on coach Overland.
So Oggi got to take his Titans there and win
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some national championships. Then he went with Texas. But for
you and the rest of the guys on that team,
you're waiting almost fifty years. And then the team he
played on as a senior two thousand and eight finally
wins the national championship. For some one who had come
so close and lost out on a coin flip, to
see those guys do it all those years later, what
did that mean to you?
Speaker 14 (58:06):
Well? I loved it.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
I was there.
Speaker 13 (58:08):
I mean I I took my grandkids, two of them.
I have a boy wanted to end up pitching to
UCLA and wanted to pitch at Oregon in.
Speaker 14 (58:18):
TCU And.
Speaker 13 (58:23):
They were twelve and ten when we went back to
the College World Series and they were so impressed they
wanted to go and play in that College World Series also.
So no, get that team back there again. I'd love
to be seeing Prisles Spate playing it again.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Absolutely, that's the goal is to get a team back there.
For our team that to twenty eighteen, so many teams
before us that were just as deserving and maybe even
better teams that had the opportunity so to do that
for the rest of the program that means a lot.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
And who knows it was seven teen years between appearances
for the twenty eighteen it's been seventeen years since, so
maybe it's time for another Diamond Dog squad to go
to Omaha.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
We're out of time. A big thanks to.
Speaker 3 (59:09):
Coach Ryan Overland and the one and only merv Carter.
Be there on March fifteenth for Pete Bidenderry. Be there
the night before when the Dogs open that conference opening
series against Nevada four o'clock Friday, our next baseball broadcast.
Thanks for listening to the Bulldog Baseball Open.
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hey, well, it's a rainy day. Are you doing? Don't
you want to come hang out inside?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's what we're doing. We're hanging out inside Crow and
Wolf off of Herndon at one sixty eight. We're gonna
be here till seven o'clock talking Fresno State Baseball. If
you need some tickets for the next home series, come
let us know. The Dogs will host Nevada Conference opening weekend.
That's a week from Friday, but this weekend there in
Big Twelfth Country, fort Worth, Texas to.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Take on the Horn Frogs.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
To see you wait, back when that was a conference
rival of Fresno States. In fact, when I started to
in the games quarter century ago, TCU was in the
whack with Fresno State. Now the Frog's a perennial Omaha
contender out of the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We're gonna talk about that series.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
We talk about last weekend, a big win Sunday at
UC Santa Barbara. There was a game last night at
home as well. And we're gonna look ahead and look
backwards when we talk about Pete Biden Day, which is
coming up March fifteenth. And I've seen something already tonight
that I've never seen before in my life, so we'll
talk about what that is. I've seen coach Ryan Overlin
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a few times. I remember seeing him back when he
was a freshman catcher from a Taska Darrow for the
Diamond Dogs many moons ago. Was that in two thousand
and five.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Two thousand and five, twenty years ago. Twenty years you
must be getting old now.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I get reminded of that more often than than i'd like.
But yeah, twenty years ago. At least, I'm not getting old. No,
you're not, absolutely as thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
We've got another special guest going to join us here shortly,
a Hall of Fame coach here in the Valley, merv Carter,
who played on the very first Bulldog team to make
it to Omaha back in nineteen fifty nine the College
World Series coached by Pete Biden. So merv's going to
tell us a little bit about Pete as we prepare
to honor his legacy. The first of three legacy coaching
days at Fresno State March fifteenth is Pete Biden Day.
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April fifth, will be Bob Bennett Day April twenty sixth
Mike BATESL Day. The idea is, we want all Bulldog
fans to come in all of those, but if you're
someone who played for one of those incredible coaches, Fresno
State being the first school in college baseball history to
have three consecutive coaches post at least six hundred wins,
if you played for one of them, we want you
to come back and tell a few stories and honor
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the coach who made your career special at Fresno State.
So March fifteenth, Pete Biden Day, April fifth, Bob Bennett
Day April twenty sixth, Mike BATESL Day.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Pete first out of the gate because he was the
guy who got it started.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
When he came to campus back in nineteen forty eight.
And if you never met him, you can look at
that great Statue down the third baseline to get a
taste of the presence in the shadow he cast the
Fresno State.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But we'll hear some first hand memories from MERV.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Carter, who also I don't know if you remember this
Coach over Then, but Mrv's got a connection to your
series coming up at TCU as well.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, remember his grandson real well at a
Clovis North High School and made his way to the
horn Frogs.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
In fact, he's got one of the game programs with
his grandson on the cover of it that he brought
here tonight, so we can cover a lot of bases
when Coach Carter joins us. But we've got Coach over
then right now, and Coach, let's start with last night
because there are some Bulldog fans out there. You had
an earlier start time of five o'clock on a Tuesday
night against cal Poly and Larry Lee, who you've known
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most of your life, and the early innings that look
like a game that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Could go either way. Cal Poly had a left.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He had pitched three innings in his career, ended up
making it into the fifth on the mound.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
You guys had some opportunities early to maybe get a lead,
and what.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Looked like great opportunities to score didn't end with as
many runs as you thought on a Tuesday night. Is
that still something that you you know, it sticks in
your crime. You get pretty frustrated with how do you
channel what you saw last night?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, I'm glad, that's well, not glad sarcastically where we're
starting there with almost coming up on twenty four hours
now reliving it last night and also this morning and
little meeting this afternoon with a team about some of
those things that came up. Yeah, it was obviously a
frustrating game that had a lot of opportunities. There are
three innings in a row with the runners on base,
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nobody out went out and only getting two runs out
of it. Some situations that are in your control as
a team that in the game of baseball, there's a
lot of things you can't control, but some situations there
that yeah, I got away from us a little bit,
and then that kind of changes a game. Now it
stays at five to two, and then they were extended
to seven to two, and then obviously we got one
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late that that wasn't enough. So those types of things,
I mean and just understanding what the team of you
got to You got to go attack things and go
win games and not just wait to hopefully make less
mistakes than the other team. And obviously we're on the
wrong side of that and continuing to move forward with that,
and we've played a tough schedule to this point for
that reason, to make sure that we're don't get away
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with some mistakes and all of a sudd now you
get in the conference, get into a regional, get into
the games that matter, and all of a sudden, they're
magnified when the better opponent you're going to play, the
less margin Ferrara, those have been and we've also been
kind of told that let the game tell us that
a little bit, and we're gonna get another really good
challenge of that this weekend.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Sure are at TCU Friday, four o'clock. Our time will
be the first pitch Saturday. It'll start at noon Sunday
at eleven am. We're here at Crowing Wolf. If you've
never been here, it's just off a herndred in one
sixty eight. I know it's raining outside, but we're nice
and cozy inside.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
The bar has whatever you want to drink.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Outside We've got a couple of food trucks here tonight
and they even have a tent so you can stay
dry while you or sauced Up Barbecue is here tonight,
and Pizza Yolo, a pretty popular Italian truck. Pizza Yolo
and saut Up Barbecue your trucks tonight. And if you're
into singing, karaoke starts as soon as we wrap up.
We're stealing an hour of the normal Wednesday night karaoke
(06:17):
time here at Crow and Wolf. So think about what
you want to sing. I know Jim and Dug are
going to sing a duet or maybe Tom's going to
join him for a trio tonight. Well, we'll listen for
the three part harmony coming up. I'm not going to
ask coach over them to sing. You were talking about,
you know, the game last night. Obviously some teachable moments,
some things to be disappointed with, frustrated with, channeling into
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improvement in the future. It's a team in cal Poly
has played a tough schedule too. In fact, did something
similar to what you're doing this weekend, went all the
way to the lone Star State and beat a really
well funded program, got to win from at that point
the number one team in the country Texas A and M.
But the Mustangs are also the team that you grew
up pretty close to on the Central Coast. You went
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to their baseball camps. We've talked about Larry Lee and
his influence on you. Does it feel any different when
you're going up against the Mustangs.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, I mean that's going up going to games. And
I was, like you said, knowing coach lead back to
I mean he was a head coach Atquesto and I
was four or five years old going to his baseball camps,
and yeah, it's a it's an honor to, you know,
be on the other dugout aside from him, one of
the greatest coaches in California history. What he's done at
doxy the junior college level in his twenty years at
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cal ply his team's his teams are going to be
well prepared. I mean it came obviously hit and run
that first pitch, you know another you're going to get
that type of stuff from. So yeah, a lot of
familiarity with not only the program for myself and coach
Price growing up around the program, but also just over
the years playing them as well.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, your third base coach Richie Price. His father rich
Price was Larry's predecessor there at cal Poly, and the
must will be back at the end of the month.
That's gonna be a Monday afternoon game, March thirty first.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Yeah, Monday, two oh five. I believe Caesar Chaves Day
on a holiday. Yeah, we'll play them on a holiday,
a little different, different look during the day on a Monday.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It'll be a quick turnaround. We'll be at San Jose
over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
On Sunday, they'll be up at Davis, I believe, So
come down after the night there and hopefully be a
little more ready to play than we were.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
The first couple inning yesterday.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Sounds like a plan, and you're definitely gonna need to
be ready to play Friday at TCU.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Against the horn Frogs.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
We're gonna talk more about that series and we're going
to have mrv Carter join us as well. But over
the weekend, you played three really good games, really tight games,
really intense games, three games.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That felt like playoff games at least to me.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And you're playing a team that's going to be in
a regional somewhere, may end up hosting a regional like
they did last year, the UCSB Gauchos, and when you
got there, nobody had beaten UCSB in a weekend game
since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You had a chance Friday almost did it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Saturday you end up losing an extra innings, and I
know it's just one out of three that you got
the win in, but did it almost feel a little
more satisfying the way you guys had to do it
to overcome heartbreakers Friday and Saturday and then gut check
moments Sunday find a way to get it done.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I mean, obviously the goal of the weekend was not
to go in and win one and lose the series.
I mean we went there with the attentions of taking
two out of three, if not winning all three when
you go there and obviously having the opportunity to do
it with a really tight game on Friday, and you know,
one plague goes your way real against you, real quick,
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and then the two run home run right after, and
then not only for our guys to come back with
what Crimerosa did after his start the weekend before and
giving us what he did, but also just the team
in general after being down six nothing in the first
on Saturday, came back, got the lead, had some opportunities
to extend it and then even get a run when
it was tied there. And then to come back and
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win a close game like that. Yeah, I mean, you
leave there, go under two plays away from sweeping them,
but you're also one play away from getting swept.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And that's what high.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Level college baseball is, especially when you're playing really good
coach teams on the West Coast and gonna pitch like
Santa Barbara. Did I mean that's Friday Bremner. That's a
top fifteen pick in this year's draft. Flora might be
the same next year. Came out of the hit one
hundred miles an hour a couple of times in that
first inning. That's two of the best arms in college baseball.
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That that obviously we would have loved to have left
their winning the series. It's not a good taste to
you know, just leave them with one. It's better than none,
obviously getting the win on Sunday, but there's definitely a
lot of experience and some things in that series that'll
carry our guys through the rest of the year that
they you wouldn't get that playing a you know, maybe
a lesser opponent that you away with some of those
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mistakes and still find a way to win because the
other team made more mistakes. You got to play, You
got to play clean throughout, You got to pitch well
and play good defense. That for the most part, we
did for the weekend. Just a couple of plays here
and there changes it. But that's that's what college baseball is.
You got to be on the right side of.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Them, and you'll have something similar this weekend. Going to TCU,
a program that has been to Omaha a lot in
the last decade.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's very well funded, has a ton of talent.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Was in the top twenty five and till losing two
out of three this last weekend at home to Southern
miss Looking forward to that, we'll preview that series a
little more. But in terms of the U see Santa
Barbara series and the Gauchos were ranked nineteenth when you
played them. I haven't checked all the latest rankings this year.
I know this week, I know they moved up to
like fifteen or sixteen in one of the polls. Obviously
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a highly regarded opponent you were up against. Were there
any other situations that your team encountered there in Santa
Barbara over the weekend that you can look at now
and say, you know what, it might be good in
the long run or beneficial for this team to have
faced that kind of challenge in this situation, and it's
gonna pay dividends down the line.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, I mean definitely, you know, facing that type of pitcher.
I mean, you get into a regional, everybody's good, and
everybody's got an ace, and that's who you want to
win the first game of a regional. That's the type
of arm you're gonna have to face. And you know,
had some runners on those first couple of innings, got
a couple of guys to third base less than two
outs and didn't didn't get them in. And that's in
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those games you're gonna win, gonna be three to two,
You're not. You're not gonna get six to seven off
those types of guys. So executing in those times comes
down with the one or two pitch, you know, and
then obviously you know the defensive mishap that leads to
the two run home run that that can be the
change in those games. So experiencing that, knowing what that
feels like, and even for some of the guys with
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a little less experience in the bullpen.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
For you know, j T.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Carrero to throw those innings on Friday, you know relatively well,
didn't go perfect, But that's again, you don't get that
in the other type of situation. For Hay to come
in on Sunday get the last seven outs in that
type of environment, you don't get that in a lot
of places.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, he was flawless.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Didn't allow a base runner to get that first career
save on Sunday. We're talking to coach Ryan Overland here
and Crow and Wolf the Bulldog Baseball Hour with you
till seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Would love to see you come join us if you
like pizza.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Pizza Yolo is here the other food truck tonight sauced
up barbecue, and you can stick around afterwards for a
little karaoke Here at Crow and Wolf.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
With James Johnson running the show.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I want to ask you one more thing before we
take the break here last night's game, I know it
wasn't the results you wanted. There were some moments. Sky
Collins got to hit his first career home run, But
how about the freshman that you stuck at shortstop? He
has started a game of d AGE the previous Tuesday.
This first time he started a game at shortstop in
his college career. And not only does Owen Foules handle
the defensive side man, he took some really impressive at bats.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, really well, owens to taking some really good at
bats in the short time getting in there. The start
last week at d H and he's put the ball
in the barrel all eleven at bats and got on
base six times, and put the ball in the barrel
four times yesterday, and was you know, the first guy
to kind of jump a fastball yesterday like we should
have been from the beginning and hit that double, And
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especially it was good to see the defense too. He
looked comfortable, and you know he's been the state at
shortstop more kind of out of necessity as the team
then maybe it gives him the best chance to get
on the field as a freshman.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
But he's handled it well.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
And you'd like to see guys get rewarded like that
when they get the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
He keeps doing that, he's going to be hard to
keep off the field. Yeah, find a way in there somehow.
Keep doing that.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
The kind of problems coaches love to have. He's Coach
Ryan Over. Then he's with us here at Crow and
Wolf here till seven o'clock tonight when we come back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Coach Over then played in the College World Series and
helped the Dogs win the World Series in two.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
But almost a half century before that, another young man
who's with us tonight was playing in Omaha for the
Diamond Dogs. To talk to him about the legacy of
Pete Biden, and he knows a thing or two about
the Dog's opponent this weekend TCU as well. Come join
us here at crowan Wolf here till seven o'clock the
Bulldog Baseball Hour on the Bulldog Sports Network from their field.
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Welcome back to the Bulldog Baseball Hour. We're here at
Crowing Wolf here till seven o'clock. Crowing Wolf, if you've
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And then they.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Have karaoke here at Crowing Wolf tonight. So you know,
actually I've heard Coach over that, and I've never I
don't know if you've ever heard this. Have you ever
heard about Pete Biden's love for singing.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Here and there? Here and there? I don't know that
I know lot of details, but here and there I
never got to hear them sing.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
But we've got someone with us now who certainly did
and before I introduced him, let me throw you under
the spotlight again here, Coach Overlin. Have you heard many
stories about the first Diamond Dog team to ever make
it to Omaha back in nineteen fifty nine?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Not enough? Not enough?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I have heard some, but that type of stuff I
could listen to all day. And for what Coach Biden's teams,
what they've meant to this program and the players that
were on that team, and what they've meant to the
program building forward, I could hear those stories all night.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Well, we've got a little bit of time and we
have someone who can tell some of those stories. And
this is what's special about the Fresno State baseball program.
There's a lot of schools that have been to the
College World Series. There aren't too many who had a
team in the College World Series. Let me do the
Matthew real quick, coach, what is that sixty six years ago?
And still have players from that team actively engaged in
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the program and coming to games. And merv Carter is
not the only one. If you go to the next
home series, I'm sure you'll see Stan Bush at the
dugout Club table trying to make sure you're a member
of the Dugout club and maybe as a hat or
a book for you. You'll see other members of those
Pete Biden teams on March fifteenth, and we have Pete
Biden Day, the first of three coaching legacy days. Put
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them all on your calendar right now. They're all Saturday afternoon,
three o'clock games. March fifteenth is Pete Biden Day. April fifth,
Bob Bennett Day April twenty six Mike Bates Al Day.
So coach MERV Carter and I got to call you
that because you're in the Fresno County Athletic Hall of
Fame for your coaching career, not just at Clovis High,
but McClain High sent the Diamond Dogs pretty good shortstop
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who went on to play in Omaha too. Huh, Jason Wood,
that was one of your guys. Just make sure your's
microphone's on here and well here you.
Speaker 13 (20:56):
Yeah, he was one of my guys. Key And the
thing I'm really proud of. We had mighty mouths at
second base.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Too, Phil Romero.
Speaker 14 (21:04):
Phil Romero.
Speaker 13 (21:05):
So when you get two kids out of the same
high school starting to shortstop and second base, for Fresno
State and they made it to the College World Series.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They must have had a pretty good high school coachw
coach over they I'd say so, but let's go back
MERV Because I mentioned singing, it's karaoke night here. I'm
not going to ask you to.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Sing thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Maybe maybe I should no, But I hear that Pete
Biden every once in a while would burst into song.
Or on some of these bus trips he tried to
get the whole bus or the whole van singing.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
How did that work?
Speaker 13 (21:40):
Well, that was later on maybe when we we didn't
have busses.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
We drove in cars.
Speaker 14 (21:46):
Uh huh, you know, and sometimes in.
Speaker 13 (21:49):
A car, if you were in his car, you would
get some singing from them. But uh, we had some
wild drivers. Sometimes we were laying on the floor back
afraid of who's driving our car. But luckily we made
most of the trips and we had a good time.
Speaker 14 (22:07):
And but back in the day, it wasn't like we
flew anywhere.
Speaker 13 (22:14):
When we went to Washington in the playoffs to play
University of Washington to see who would go to the
College World Series, that was probably the first plane trip
for all of us.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Wow, so after you survived all those car trips. Yes,
Now I've got to ask Coach over and if you
think back to your team in two thousand and eight,
coach that won the College World Series, you think of
the guys on that team, how do you think it
would have been if you guys had to take cars
to all your road games.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
That'd be a different story for sure. But time like
being guys first plane trips. There's usually one or two
a year. We'll have a freshman that I'll joke about,
is this your first plane trip? And usually somebody goes,
yeah it is. But yeah, I mean by Coach Price
of myself those days at South Dakota State made some
serious bus trips, so I know that's a little different.
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Now we have the bus ride just to Reno or
to Vegas. Sometimes six seven hours feels like a long
long trip. That's a whole other world. You're talking fifteen
to twenty hour bus ride.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, it's like being in the minor leagues or something.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
We're talking to Coach Ryan Overland of your Fresno State
Diamond Dogs and former Bulldog merv Carter, who played on
the first Diamond Dog team to make it to Omaha
way back in nineteen fifty nine, and Coach Overlin, if
you have questions for merv feel free to jump in too.
I'm just wondering when you first came to Fresno State,
and we have to talk about what you brought for
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Coach Overland to night too. But when you first came
to Fresno State, who is this Pete Biden character and
what kind of impression did he make on you?
Speaker 14 (23:50):
Well? First, first off, I met.
Speaker 13 (23:55):
Coach Biden at the University of California in Berkeley. They
were plane col Presnel State was and so I was
with my coach, George Poles, and my dad and he
came over to the.
Speaker 14 (24:13):
Stands, to the edge of the stands. He was in
his uniform and everything. And the first thing he did
him was.
Speaker 13 (24:19):
Grabbed me by the wrist and says, Coach Poles tells
me you're pretty good, pretty good, And I said, yeah,
thank you. He says, well, we want you to come
down to Fresnel State.
Speaker 14 (24:31):
I want to see how good you are.
Speaker 13 (24:34):
And that was my first introduction to Pete. And then
the next time I talked to him, I was down here.
I had got a room in the tower district in
a boarding house, thinking that Fresnel State was still at
City College. And then I found out Nold they had
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just moved out the Shaw and I didn't have a
car or anything when I came down here, and so
I was l three days late to practice. I didn't
even know we didn't have cell phones, of course.
Speaker 14 (25:14):
But started class.
Speaker 13 (25:15):
I barely got around the school with bumming a ride
and taking the bus, and he says, where you've been,
lad Barria, Go get some clothes so we can work
you out. So Soupy Holmes, he gave me all this
stuff that I think used to be Pete's. Pete had
a big sweatshirt and then hang off his shoulder, and
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I was one hundred and forty pounds. So I go
out there with a size forty pair of pants, old.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Wool socks, Pete Biden's shirt and the hat was size eight.
And so he said, well, let's go take some fly balls.
Speaker 13 (25:59):
So he sends me out there, and Mike Matheson and
Jerry White they're laughing at this skinny guy that couldn't
keep his hat on, had a belt tied, So hold
my pants up and he hits me fly balls and
runs me back and forth and brings me in.
Speaker 14 (26:17):
He says, very god there where you get those clothes?
Speaker 13 (26:23):
I said, get them from your your equipment, man, he says, well,
you can't dress like that on my field, but your
fly ball pretty good. So that was my first introduction
to Pete Biden coach over and you feel like you
know Pete Biden a little better.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Now, but a little bit. Yeah, it'd be a little
different story today. Somebody showed up three days later.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's right, wearing size forty pants and I had that
won't stay on. It's amazing you found all those fly
balls that he hit you with that famous fungo and
that's we need to take a break. But you hit
on something there. He referred to you as Bay Area
because that's where you were from. I was from Oakland,
And he had some other colorful nicknames for people, but
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a lot of times he didn't from what I understand,
he didn't usually call guys by their actual name.
Speaker 13 (27:14):
No, you might be deflopper, you might be Barria or Valeo.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Is that what he called Augie Girta Valeo?
Speaker 14 (27:25):
Valeo?
Speaker 13 (27:26):
Uh huh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Well Valeo turned out okay too.
Speaker 14 (27:29):
Yeah, you got a number.
Speaker 13 (27:31):
Of players out of Valao and knowing then up and
down the valley.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Lots of history with Fresno State Baseball, and that's one
of the reasons that Pete biden Day and Bob Bennettey
and Mike Bates all day are there to remind people
of what a special baseball program this is. We'll talk
more with merv Carter and also Coach Ryan Overlan when
we come back. If you've got a question for either one,
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means we've got a half hour left. We're here at
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Right off for a Herndred at one sixty eight the
Bulldog Baseball Hour Tonight. Coach Ryan Overland kind enough to
come out, even though he's got an early flight to
the Metroplex in Texas.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Dogs take on TCU the horn Frogs Friday at four
Saturday at noon Sunday at eleven our time, of course,
at Central time there in Texas. We've been talking to
Coach Overland and another outstanding.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Coach, MERV.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Carter, who played on Fresno State's first College World Series
team back in nineteen fifty nine, played for the great
Pete Biden, who will be honored March fifteenth. The legacy
of Pete Biden will be on display. If you know
someone who played for Pete Biden, make sure they're there
March fifteenth. Anybody who played for Pete gets a free ticket,
a free commemorative hat. And we'll do the same for
Bob Bennett and Mike Bates a little bit later on
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in the season. Coach Carter, you brought something today that
I just saw you hand to Coach over then that
I hadn't seen before. I mean, I've seen some things
like it, but that autograph on that authentic wooden baseball
bet you have there is one we don't see too
much anymore.
Speaker 14 (32:35):
Yeah, old Mickey Mantle bet.
Speaker 13 (32:38):
You know when it's got Frisno State stamped on it.
And I brought it to the coach. I thought, I
think keep it as a souvenir, use it at a
raffle or whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Does that mean anybody uses it has to switch hit
since it says Mickey Mantle.
Speaker 13 (32:55):
Other Well, you know, he was a pretty special guy
out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
And I imagine as you being an outfielder playing in
the nineteen fifties at Fresno State, that's probably a guy
you admired a little bit.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 13 (33:11):
No, I've was very fortunate. You know, the Giants came
to San Francisco when I was coming down here in
fifty eight, so I always had to go home and
work to pay.
Speaker 14 (33:26):
For school the next year, and so.
Speaker 13 (33:30):
I got to go to some of the Giant games
and sit in the right field bleachers for two dollars
to see the Giants play.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Uh huh.
Speaker 14 (33:40):
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Two dollars, two dollars to watch?
Speaker 13 (33:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Ooh, coach over then, you ever seen a back quite
like that before. That's a first for me.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
That's a pretty unique and something I don't think I
would have expected to see Fresno State and Mickey Mantle together.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So thank you, coach. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, and we were talking about Pete Biden.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
We can come back around.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
To that, but let's talk about this series this weekend
TCU A program. It's funny how small the world of
college baseball is And here's one of Fresno State's Paul
of Fame alumni, merv Carter, who's got a connection to
TCU and coach Overlin. Even the horn Frog coaching staff
has some connections and cross pollinations to Fresno State.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, their assistant coach, coach Moseelo, played at Fresno State
and he was the assistant at TCU for a while,
left for a couple of years be the head coach
at Ohio State, and now back there, so they got
some familiarity. It's only Fresno State, but West Coast baseball
in general with their head coach, coach sar Lewis at
a time at Fullerton and littly pitching the Big Leagues,
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and coach Lawn, who had been a lot of schools
on the West Coast for a very long time. So
there's a lot of West Coast baseball connections with this team.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Coach Lawn was even in your league for a while
at Nevada. Was he in New Mexico too for a minute.
It's just Nevada, I think Nevada and coach Carter. Uh,
you know a thing or two about TCU, So tell us.
What your connection is there to the horn frogs and
what Bulldog fans who might be going this weekend can
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expect from that setting for college baseball, the environment, anything
else that you.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Want to share.
Speaker 13 (35:25):
Well, my connection is basically I have a grandson, middle grandson.
Speaker 14 (35:32):
I'm my youngest daughter, and.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
He graduated from the University of Oregon but had a
COVID year left and uh he decided after going into portal,
he chose TCU because his brother was in Texas and
his younger brother was going to TCU, and so he
ended up pitching that year in twenty twenty two, and
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they won the Big Twelve championship, and he ended up
starting thirty one games. Between being at the University of
Oregon and at last year at TCU, I'm thirty eight.
He had thirty eight starts in Division College one baseball.
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And so this last year at TCU, I learned in
twenty two the field there, the ball carries, they like
to steal bases. They're good hitting team and a good
defensive team, and they recruit real well, and so you're
going to have a tough road to Hall.
Speaker 14 (36:47):
That's all I can tell you about them.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's pretty spot onto what we've seen so far.
Speaker 13 (36:52):
Are you ready and the fans come out and support them?
You know sometimes early season they're not there, but I
think they'll recognize the Bulldogs come in to play, and
I'm sure they're going to have a good crowd.
Speaker 14 (37:08):
If the weather's good.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
And Coach Overlin remind me, am I forgetting something or
is this the first time the Diamond Dogs have played
a game in Texas since you were playing and Rice
was still.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
In the whack? Maybe Texas A and M twenty fifteen.
That's right.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I didn't go on that trip with tex A and
M in twenty fifteen. I'm glad to see. That's why
I asked you. I was doing a basketball game somewhere.
I didn't get to go to that. And you've played
plenty of big time teams. Do you notice a difference, like, say,
going up against TCU this weekend compared to some teams
you'll see in the Mountain West.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Do you know it's a difference in the.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Level of depth that this big twelve, well funded TCU program.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Is going to have this weekend.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, I mean it'll start on the mound really, with
the depth of pitching and the velocity the bodies and
the velocity that you'll see in the South and in
Texas there's a little more abundant and with a lot
more kids staying in school in those regions of the country,
with not only some menil opportunities to compete with major
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league signing bonuses, but just kids growing up wanting to
go to a TCU, wanting to go to a University
of Texas, that type of thing. So the depth on
the mound that the team speed will definitely be the
thing that'll stick out. This will be by far the
fastest team will play all year, which is routine.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Girn balls.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
You know, we're gonna infielder's got to be ready for
the speed to play and obviously, like a coach said, they'll.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Be ready to steal some bases.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
And it sounds like you're excited about that challenge and
maybe see some benefit in the long term for your
team to go up against the squad like that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah, it's gonna be a really good challenge and again
one more opportunity to really play the game and have
a really good opponent to kind of exploit your weakness
to a little bit in some things that maybe you
wouldn't get that in some other environments. And you know
they're opening weekend last week. There's fifty five hundred people
on Friday and Saturday, so it'll be a good loud environment.
That again, you know, playing with the expectations of getting
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in the NCAA tournament and playing in a regional that's
the type of environment you're going to be. So that's
I'm excited for our guys to go compete and get
after him and come home with a series win.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Sounds like a plan.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Friday at four, Saturday, at noon, Sunday at eleven, the
game time's our time here in the valley, and we've
got another twenty minutes here at Crowing Wolf tonight here
till seven o'clock the Bulldog Baseball Hour. Come hang out,
stay around for karaoke if you want. Coach Overland is here,
MERV Carter is here. We'll talk some more about Pete
Biden and the twenty twenty five Diamond Dogs when we
come back. If you've got a question we haven't asked yet,
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be like Robert, I'm gonna read his question when we
come back. There are some other questions that might be
coming in. We'll pass them on to coach Overland and
to our special guest, former bulldog nerv Carter, come join
us at Crowing Wolf and keep it here on the
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then welcome back to the Bulldog Baseball Hour.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
We're here at Crowing Wolf tonight till seven o'clock talking
Fresno State Baseball.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
The Diamond Dog's. The next home series is March fourteenth
through sixteenth.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
That'll be the conference opening weekend against Nevada and the.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Saturday game March fifteenth at three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
First pitch is going to be the first in a
series of three coaching Legacy Days celebrating the incredible tradition
of Fresno State Baseball, the first school in college baseball
history to have three straight coaches win six hundred games
at that school. So Pete Biden Day is up first
March fifteenth. If you know someone who played for Pete,
make sure he's there on March fifteenth. Every year we've
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done this, it's been neat to see.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
And you know, I realized Merv Carter.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
We have Merv Carter here along with Coach Overlin because
Merv played for Pete Biden in fact, played in that
College World Series in nineteen fifty nine. What I realized,
Coach is, as we get ready for this, there were
guys that were at last year's Pete Biden Day or
the one we did before that, that aren't with us anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
And that's why it's so important for guys to come right.
Speaker 14 (44:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 13 (44:12):
I mean, our numbers are dwindling and some of them
now aren't in good health.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
Well, we're really glad you could come here and represent today,
and I'm sure Coach Overland would love as much as
I would to hear a story about that nineteen fifty
nine team, I do want to pass on a question
at coach Overland that came in on the ex app
Robert wants to know.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
He used that hashtag ask fs.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
He said, given how they've done in the midweek games,
will Tyler Patrick and Owen Fouss get a chance to
play on the weekends.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
That's a really good question.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
I mean, obviously that's with your younger guys and seeing
how they handle the environment and how they handle when
the lights come on is a big piece to that,
and kind of getting them in the right opportunities early
and for Allen taking some really good abouts and like
I said earlier, more importantly the way he played defense
look comfortable and made some really nice plays on defense.
(45:06):
That you want to keep rewarding guys of getting them
back out there. And you know, the competitor Tyler Patrick
is he's gonna pitch some big outs for us and
get some big innings. So yeah, obviously you want those
guys to keep developing into bigger roles, and the guys
earn spots and keep developing into more as the season
goes on.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Usually, most good teams.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
You got guys come on from something maybe you didn't expect,
or a guy has a career year, or you know,
really step on to a role maybe you didn't expect.
And so far those two guys are two good candidates
for that.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Oh, we'll look forward to more of those youngsters on
the diamond. Back in the late nineteen fifties, Merv Carter
was a youngster who came to Fresno State from the
Bay Area played for the great Pete Biden. You told us,
Merv that when you guys went up to Seattle for
the NCAA playoffs that year in nineteen fifty nine for
a spot in the College World Series, is the first
time you guys had been on an airplane.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Then you get to go to Omaha. What kind of.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Spectacle was the College World Series in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 13 (46:06):
Well, you know, we played at the old Rosenblatt Stadium
and they didn't have seats in the outfield, just down
the right field line. But it was a big ballpark.
I think it was a Triple A ballpark at the time.
And the fans, though, were fantastic.
Speaker 14 (46:27):
Even then.
Speaker 13 (46:28):
Back then, we expected who's going to know about Fresno State. Well,
we land and there's a bunch of fans there to
greet us, and they put us in convertibles and we
were sponsored by a nursing school and they drove us
in the town.
Speaker 14 (46:48):
Then the next day.
Speaker 13 (46:50):
They have a ticker tape parade around the city of
Omaha and people throwing confetti out the windows. And so
we were and here we are, you know, at all
with the whole thing even being there, and we had
no idea what it would be like, you know, And
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so you know, we were the first state college team
to ever play from the state of California to go
It was always you know, USC or Stanford or Coal
you know in those days, that especially USC, you know.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And a lot of people don't realize how many College
World Series Pete Biden probably would have gone to if
it were handled the way it is now, because it
was a truly regional format.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
So there are a lot of years he had a team.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
That was number two in the country or number three,
but had to play number one just for a spot
to go to Omaha, whether that was USC or Santa
Clara in some years.
Speaker 14 (47:53):
Right, and sometimes it didn't matter where.
Speaker 13 (47:58):
Fresno State was okay, because it was like Rod Dadel
was the area commissioner so to speak, and the coach
down there at SC and so he got to pick
and choose, like what four teams would represent them to
go play two games or three games series and then
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play the next week and then that was the Omah.
It wasn't like a whole bunch of teams playing back then.
It was really a limited schedule.
Speaker 14 (48:36):
Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
There are plenty of politics involved now, but it was
a little more political.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh yeah back then.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
And what you guys did, I'm glad you brought up
the fact that you were the first California state school.
So really what you guys did in nineteen fifty nine
kind of paved the way for the cal State Fullertons
of the world, for other teams that have had a
chance to go there since then. And you talked about
the parade before you played a game there, Coach Overlin,
correct me if I'm wrong, But when you want it
all in two thousand and eight, you guys had to
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wait till after you want it all to get a parade,
didn't you.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
That's what I was going to say. Must have felt
like you had already wonted and you hadn't even stepped
on the field. But yeah, that's a that's a cool
story and something i'd you know, enjoy hearing because obviously
when we went by two thousand and eight, it's such
an ESPN spectacle. You've seen it on TV and you
kind of know what to expect, and for us it
was a little bit of getting there and we're there
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what we've seen on TV, and for you guys kind
of not really sure where you're going and what.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
You're getting into.
Speaker 4 (49:35):
That's a that's a cool story to hear what it
was like and the expectations going into it.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
And the way it ended up is quite a story too.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Have you ever heard that coach over then about why
Fresno State was third in nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 4 (49:49):
I believe I've heard a story of a misplayed ball
that was late in one of the games or point
point clip.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
We've got to have coach Carter tell you the story,
but we've got to at our last break. Then we'll
hear it from the horse's mouth. Nerv Carter, former Bulldog,
is with us. His coach Pete Biden's legacy will be
honored March fifteenth. Don't miss that at Pete Biden Field
at Bob Bennett Stadium, and if you're in a hurry,
you can catch us before we leave here at Crow
and Wolf. Seven o'clock is when we wrap up the
Bulldog Baseball Hour on the Bulldog Sports Network from their field.
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Well, we're almost out of time on the Bulldog Baseball
Hour tonight coming down the home Strategic Crow and Wold.
If you missed us tonight, maybe you can catch us
next time. I know everybody here is having a good time,
not only inside, but they're getting their food outside.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
Those food trucks are a big hit, saust Up Barbecue
and Pizza Yolo.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Some of them are waiting for karaoke, which starts in
about seven minutes. But before we run out of time,
we got to get the rest of this story. Coach Overlin,
who helped the Diamond Dogs win a national championship in
two thousand and eight, hasn't heard the story of the
nineteen fifty nine College World Series and why Fresno State
finished third, not first or second.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
So, Murph Carter, you were on that team.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Did it really come down to a coin flip to
decide and we played.
Speaker 14 (54:08):
For the absolutely? Yes, you know.
Speaker 13 (54:12):
It came down to Arizona, University of Arizona, Fresno State,
and Oklahoma State. We all finished the first rounds at
three and one. We had eight teams back there and
the three of us, and we had a great left hander,
Leroy Gregory beat Arizona who was undefeated at the time.
(54:35):
He threw a shut out against him, two to nothing.
So it came out three of us at three and
one records. They flipped the coin and the one that
had the odd man out got to buy so we
ended up having to play Oklahoma State and go with
our number five pitcher against their number one ace because
(54:58):
of the rotation in and then uh, Oklahoma State came
back and beat Arizona anyway, and they won the College
World Series. But that's how we finished third. We lost
the flip and lost the game.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Paul, I got a I got a question that's gonna
the coaching side of me of a coin flip to
the side a three team tiebreaker. Did you have a
three sided coin? How do you clip a coin for
three teams? You've obviously me versus you, the verse him,
and it was the odd one.
Speaker 13 (55:32):
It was all three flipped and I think it's two
heads and one tail, and the tail was them.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
So was coach Biden there for the the flip or
he had a representative or that's what I was thinking
of the results, I don't.
Speaker 13 (55:47):
We had a couple of assistant coaches, you know, one
one was a student coach, and one Bill Harbor, who
came out of the service and helped Peak for a
few years.
Speaker 14 (56:01):
But basically, you know, in those days, we had one coach.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
He did it all.
Speaker 14 (56:07):
I mean, Pete was a master of pitching, catching, and defense.
Speaker 13 (56:16):
And scouts and major league organizations. He spent a year
going to spring training and they would tell him, Coach,
if we got a kid from Frisnell State, we knew
that he knew how to play baseball and do.
Speaker 14 (56:32):
It right because of you. And that's the kind of
coach Pete was.
Speaker 13 (56:37):
A lot of people said he was kind of gruff
and he's tough, but no, when he wanted to say
something to correct you, he had a holder you like
hand on your arm or hold onto your shoulder. He
was a great man and a sweet man, but a
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tough guy, and he wanted to win, and he wanted
us to love the game and teach the game correctly.
And out of our roster of about twenty five guys,
I think eighteen of us became coaches.
Speaker 14 (57:14):
Wow out for fifteen nineteen, okay.
Speaker 3 (57:18):
And one of them was for a while the winning
this coach in college baseball history.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
Wow, you bet you what a story.
Speaker 3 (57:26):
I wish we had more time, coach, But on Pete
Biden Day, March fifteenth, I hope you'll come out and
have some of your teammates. We'll have you up in
the booth tell some more Pete Biden stories. Boy, so
many places we could go as we get one last
question in for you will make it easy on coach Overland.
So Oggi got to take his Titans there and win
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some national championships. Then he went with Texas. But for
you and the rest of the guys on that team,
you're waiting almost fifty years. And then the team he
played on as a senior two thousand and eight finally
wins the national championship. For some one who had come
so close and lost out on a coin flip, to
see those guys do it all those years later, what
did that mean to you?
Speaker 14 (58:06):
Well? I loved it.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
I was there.
Speaker 13 (58:08):
I mean I I took my grandkids, two of them.
I have a boy wanted to end up pitching to
UCLA and wanted to pitch at Oregon in.
Speaker 14 (58:18):
TCU And.
Speaker 13 (58:23):
They were twelve and ten when we went back to
the College World Series and they were so impressed they
wanted to go and play in that College World Series also.
So no, get that team back there again. I'd love
to be seeing Prisles Spate playing it again.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Absolutely, that's the goal is to get a team back there.
For our team that to twenty eighteen, so many teams
before us that were just as deserving and maybe even
better teams that had the opportunity so to do that
for the rest of the program that means a lot.
Speaker 3 (58:58):
And who knows it was seven teen years between appearances
for the twenty eighteen it's been seventeen years since, so
maybe it's time for another Diamond Dog squad to go
to Omaha.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
We're out of time. A big thanks to.
Speaker 3 (59:09):
Coach Ryan Overland and the one and only merv Carter.
Be there on March fifteenth for Pete Bidenderry. Be there
the night before when the Dogs open that conference opening
series against Nevada four o'clock Friday, our next baseball broadcast.
Thanks for listening to the Bulldog Baseball Open.
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