November 12, 2024 • 17 mins
The BUZZ had a thought-provoking discussion with director Andrew Abrahams about the film, "Dog War."
"Dog War" follows a duo of war-hardened, canine-loving combat veterans fighting to stop the dog meat trade in South Korea. Surveilling and infiltrating hidden meat farms and markets, they risk it all to save as many dogs as possible. At the same time, the film spotlights a country at war with itself over the issue, igniting questions about cultural difference, and social and generational change. "Dog War" probes these questions without simple black and white answers—about animal rights vs. human livelihood, heroism vs. vigilantism, respect for another culture, and how far we can justly go to save man’s best friend.
Abrahams talked about how this project started six years ago. He also called out my own naïveté about this happening across the globe. While I kept saying this was a difficult watch, one thing that wasn't said by me was how eye-opening it was to discover that this was happening. It opened up a lot of other questions that I could not get into during this conversation, but one thing is for sure... what can we do to stop this from happening going forward? This also was addressed in conversation and in the film, as South Korea's National Assembly voted to ban the dog meat industry beginning in 2027. This will make it illegal to breed, slaughter, and sell dogs and dog meat for human consumption. However, consumption of dog meat will still be legal.
We will inform you on how to watch "Dog War" when it becomes available.
"Dog War" follows a duo of war-hardened, canine-loving combat veterans fighting to stop the dog meat trade in South Korea. Surveilling and infiltrating hidden meat farms and markets, they risk it all to save as many dogs as possible. At the same time, the film spotlights a country at war with itself over the issue, igniting questions about cultural difference, and social and generational change. "Dog War" probes these questions without simple black and white answers—about animal rights vs. human livelihood, heroism vs. vigilantism, respect for another culture, and how far we can justly go to save man’s best friend.
Abrahams talked about how this project started six years ago. He also called out my own naïveté about this happening across the globe. While I kept saying this was a difficult watch, one thing that wasn't said by me was how eye-opening it was to discover that this was happening. It opened up a lot of other questions that I could not get into during this conversation, but one thing is for sure... what can we do to stop this from happening going forward? This also was addressed in conversation and in the film, as South Korea's National Assembly voted to ban the dog meat industry beginning in 2027. This will make it illegal to breed, slaughter, and sell dogs and dog meat for human consumption. However, consumption of dog meat will still be legal.
We will inform you on how to watch "Dog War" when it becomes available.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on, everybody. It's Nobelle Jay with a new
buzz cast here at Buzzworthy Radio, and I had the
chance to sit with Andrew Abraham who talked about his
movie Dog War. One of the things I will say
about this interview, I did keep saying it was a
hard watch, and I gotta give him credit. He did
call me out on that, so I have to tell you,
(00:23):
while I get while I do say this a lot
during this conversation, he brought up some very valid points
about it. This movie does follow the story of two
people who are in South Korea and they look into
the fact of dog meat trades. So you're basically seeing
(00:44):
these two individuals trying to save as many dogs as
possible because you are seeing them getting mutilated and beaten
to the point where they are eaten. They're basically eating
dog meat. No it's hands orbuts about it. So there
are parts of it that, while as I said and
kept saying, is a hard watch, is very informative because
(01:08):
it showed aspects of life that I had no idea existed.
And I think that was really the premise of this film.
This documentary is showing us exactly what goes on in
other parts of the world that we are not privy
to here in the States. So for me, it was
very eye opening and very in knowing certain terms, it
(01:31):
was very enlightening to the subject matter because now it
brought a whole other aspect to what we live, what
we see, what we may not see in life, and
knowing that this exists. So please enjoy this interview with
Andrew I personally did, and hopefully you guys do as well.
Check it out. I'm sitting here with Andrew Abraham's and
(01:55):
we are talking about dog War. First of all, Andrew,
thank you so much much for stopping by the bus
to talk to me about this. Really appreciate it. Great
to be here. I am going to first of all
start off by saying this was a very very hard watch,
and it wasn't easy, and I think there were I
(02:19):
know I was already warned about potentially seeing some things
that I was not ready for, but when I got
to the parts where I and guys, when I tell you,
when you're seeing dogs being torched, you're seeing these dogs
being beaten, You're going to see this in this film
when you have the opportunity to see, which I implore
you to do, and we're going to get into that.
(02:40):
As to why I suggest that you do see this,
it's it was hard for me to see that. I
literally jumped out of my skin, especially not thinking I
was going to see the dogs being hit and beaten,
let alone burned. I was not ready for that, and
when I saw it literally scared me to death.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So I don't know if you're gonna draw many viewers
based on that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
No, but it's it for me. I think because a
lot of people know I love dogs and people like
to no uncertain terms do. Nicknamed me the dog Whisperer,
so I think that's probably another reason why they'll understand
why I'm a bit upset by watching this, but also
trying to get this message out as well. This was
(03:32):
in South Korea, if I'm not mistaken where this took place,
and I want to know one how I believe I
might have had this wrong, but I believe this was
what six years? Was it? Six years? And making this okay?
And it basically stems from seeing not just these dogs
(03:53):
being beaten in torture, but there are people who are
eating dog meat over in this area, and we have
these two war veterans who are going over to want
to save these dogs. How did you get in? How
did you get involved in this project from the job?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Uh, Like like all my films, it's it's something that
stands out. It needs to be something that stands out
to me. Something I didn't know about, something that's unseen, unknown,
something that's sort of like falling through the cracks. And
in this case, when it came to me, when someone
came to me with this issue, I didn't know anything
(04:32):
about it. I was kind of shocked. But it wasn't
just the issue of eating dog meat. It was also
some of the other other aspects of it, like some
of the myths about it, that that it was good
for you, it was good for your health, that it
was that that it was like a natural viagra.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That it was.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know basically, you know, male stamina was increased, and
so so this was These were kind of angles that
I was very interested in, and I needed a some
kind of angle entree into this world.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And when I learned about this.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Team of or this group or team of of of
combat vets who were basically dedicating their lives to saving
dogs throughout the world, I was intrigued.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This this sort of like.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Juxtaposition of war, heart hardened vets trained to kill, you know,
macho guys with you know, a heart of gold, you know, soft,
you know, animal loving. At the same time that that
intrigued me. So I'm interested in contrasts. I'm interested in
in that kind of place where our assumptions collide, you know.
(05:46):
And this was also it's also West versus East in
some way, And what what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Is this cultural imperialism? Is this just cultural difference? Is
there are there borders for dogs and in other borders
for like some of the questions of ethics and humanity. So, uh,
those are things that just intrigued me.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And so.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Basically my grappling with the with the subjects and with
the questions or something that I want to I basically
want to be a proxy for the viewer to ask
those same questions and to struggle with them as well.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's interesting how you talked about when you got involved
with the project, about the myths that were associated with
this when you first heard about it. You know, it's
sort of you sort of dive into that during during
this as well. I know one of the things that
were called out was that one of the one of
the girls that gave a commentary was about how if
(06:46):
you were to harm a dog, if you were to
torture them so much, then the meat would be softer
and tender to eat and everything like that, And I
just kind of saptiricaled, like, but that's not okay either way,
and just that part of it, and then the conflict
between certain certain people there where you're seeing on one
(07:08):
side of it, people are just in the streets going like,
let's eat, let's go ahead and do this, Let's go
ahead and eat the dog. Met then you have the
other side of it going like, no, we got to
say the dogs, we got to save the dogs. So
I feel I'm just wondering just from your position, just
standing there and seeing these size going at it, and
how difficult for you was it to be in that
(07:29):
present moment where you're watching this unfold with with everybody,
because I know there are certain aspects, especially when they're
going in and trying to infiltrate, how how how difficult
was that in order for you to not I don't
want to say stay out of the way, but enough
to where you can get what you need in order
(07:51):
to convey the message for everybody that's watching.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think what I'm taking from this question is, like,
is how is it being in the midst of a war,
being in the midst of this dog war? And you know,
I can say a lot of things about that, Like
war is fascinating, Like if it weren't for the violence
(08:15):
of war, you know, for the for the the death
and destruction of war, sort of like writ large, it's
fascinating because like this is what it is. Is like
it's a it's a contrast, it's a clash of ideas,
and you know, and and so that's gonna happen, Like
(08:37):
that happens all the time, that contrasting, and you know,
hopefully we get to a point where that war doesn't
where it doesn't become violent and destructive. So I'm intrigued
by it. I'm intrigued by the questions, like I said,
and the contrasts that are coming together. And in this case,
(08:58):
it's around the dog meat in this street. Ah. I
do have a point of view, but I also understand
that it's important to represent all the different points of view.
I don't want to I don't want to spoon feed
pardon the expression, uh to the audience what they should think.
(09:20):
I want them to come to their own conclusions and
sort of show them against the Smorgasboard pardon the expression
of of of the different points of view. So I
like that, Like I really like that the tension that's
involved in the the the dog war issue and to
(09:42):
a greater extent, you know, the wars and tensions that
are all about us.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And like I said, I wish we could deal with
those in a way that is that is that is
not violent, that is more respectful, and I think we
would have better better outcomes if we didn't have to
resort to to violence. Ultimately, in this case with the
with dog war and with dog meat industry in South Korea, UH,
there is a happy ending, which is that the South
(10:12):
Korean government has banned the UH the industry and take
take it'll it'll start in twenty twenty seven, but it's
only because of because of this this UH, this war
that's been ongoing in South Korea for a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's that's great to hear. Thank you for sharing that
with us. And I believe that this this film is
actually premiering at the Chelsea Film Festival tomorrow. It's a.
It's a US premiere.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It had the world premiere at the rain Dance Film
Festival in London earlier this summer.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, so this is the North American premiere tomorrow. Okay, gotcha?
And I I, like I said, I know it's a
very it's a very hard while, but I really would
encourage everybody to see it because, again, as you just
said yourself, very very eloquently, you're telling this story. You
have your point of view from this, but also you're
getting everybody else's point of view in this film. What
(11:12):
you're trying to get from from those who provided the
commentary as well as what you were able to capture.
And I'd like to say, can I say something about that? Yeah?
Is this you know, I hear.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
This a lot about like it's hard to watch, it's
hard to watch, and you know, most people aren't going
to go to a film that that, you know, when
they're being told it's hard to watch, it's hard to watch.
And so I'll say it's sometimes I call it the
must see film or a must see film that you
thought you couldn't watch. It's it's people who do watch
it usually say I thought it I didn't think I
(11:47):
thought it was going to be much worse than it was. Yes,
there were some difficult moments, but overall, you know, I
was drawn in, I was fascinated, and it left me
thinking and you know, I can't stop thinking about this.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's sort of like.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Grabbed, grabbed me and and won't let me go. So
I want people to have that experience of being challenged,
being questioned, like like, that's a great place to be.
And so I I you know, and I think we're
in a time where, you know, there are wars going
destructive wars going on in the world right now, and
(12:23):
people don't want to be like it's like we want
our safe spaces. We don't we want we don't want
to go through trauma and uh, for better for worse.
That's kind of the sort of the zeitgeist of the moment.
But I think we need to continue challenging ourselves and
in some ways come out of our bubble of protection
(12:44):
and safety so that we can see the world in
a fresh way. So that's how I would sort of
represent it. It's something that's good for you, not like
overall bad for you, something that will make you, uh,
that will expand your horizons, not just you know, make
you curl up into a into a shell and you know,
(13:06):
give give up.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I like how you put that, because it's exactly really
what happened after I was finished watching it. Because I
did come out out of the movie where I did
have thoughts about it, did have questions about it. I
also was one that did not know this was going on,
and so just to have that visibility into it, to
(13:30):
your point, I agree, I it wasn't as hard of like,
it wasn't that difficult to watch. I came out of
that basically going like I learned something from it, and
now I get to question I get to question it
what we watched and how are we able to take
that and discuss it even further continue to have that conversation.
(13:52):
So I definitely agree with that assessment because that's honestly
what happened with me when I watched the film. It
really was a thought provoking film, and I also appreciated
everything that was brought to the screen, and I was
able to see people's happiness when the vets came in
and saved and saved the dogs, and it was just
(14:15):
it really was. It was challenging for me that I
never knew about it, but then as I got to
watch it and see everything progress, I was very happy
with the outcome that we were able to end on
the note with yeah, yes. So I appreciate that you
(14:37):
were able to convey that message not just in the
film but also in the conversation that we're having now.
So thank you for that. And I really hope everybody
gets to watch this when it does premiere tomorrow at
the Chelsea Film Festival, because again, like me, you're gonna
come out of this with you never knew about it,
but you're going to now realize, oh my gosh, this
(14:59):
is happening. What other you know, what other things can
we talk about or what can we see? Yeah, and
it's you know, what I'd like to add to that
is that it's also a film, you know, and as
a film film films need to entertain, they need to engage,
and I think the film apart from you know, any
(15:20):
sort of like questions of ethics and morality and and
and and sort of like those those overarching questions like
it's it's you take a ride in this film, like
you know, it's a real like it's a it's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
A it's a thriller in a way, and I know,
so I don't want to like when I say entertaining,
I don't. I don't want to be sound flippant. But
it's a moving film, like in all the different ways,
Like you're moved from beginning to end, and you get
to a different place at the end than when you started.
And I think that's what makes a good film.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It does, and it, honestly, it really did. It really
did change the feeling of what I watched it. I
was in this one place because I kept saying that
in the beginning, as you called out, But then when
I got to the end of it, I was like,
this was this is good. This was good. And I'm
a big thing of documentaries as it is, so I
enjoyed it very very much and getting the chance to
(16:23):
learn something new that I had not learned before. So
thank you very much for bringing that to me and
being able to review it and discuss it with you.
I would love to talk about this more if I
could ever get the opportunity to do that with you.
I would love to sit back and talk with you
a lot more about this, for sure. I'd be more
than happy too. Absolutely Andrew, thank you so much for
(16:43):
stopping by. I really really appreciate it. All right. The
film made its US premiere at the Chelsea Film Festival
last month, and when we learned more, we'll let you
know on how you can watch Dog War itself. Many
thanks to Andrew Abraham for stopping by the buzz Cast
to talk about this documentary and bringing more information to
our eyes. Here. That's gonna do it for me for
(17:05):
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(17:26):
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What's going on, everybody. It's Nobelle Jay with a new
buzz cast here at Buzzworthy Radio, and I had the
chance to sit with Andrew Abraham who talked about his
movie Dog War. One of the things I will say
about this interview, I did keep saying it was a
hard watch, and I gotta give him credit. He did
call me out on that, so I have to tell you,
(00:23):
while I get while I do say this a lot
during this conversation, he brought up some very valid points
about it. This movie does follow the story of two
people who are in South Korea and they look into
the fact of dog meat trades. So you're basically seeing
(00:44):
these two individuals trying to save as many dogs as
possible because you are seeing them getting mutilated and beaten
to the point where they are eaten. They're basically eating
dog meat. No it's hands orbuts about it. So there
are parts of it that, while as I said and
kept saying, is a hard watch, is very informative because
(01:08):
it showed aspects of life that I had no idea existed.
And I think that was really the premise of this film.
This documentary is showing us exactly what goes on in
other parts of the world that we are not privy
to here in the States. So for me, it was
very eye opening and very in knowing certain terms, it
(01:31):
was very enlightening to the subject matter because now it
brought a whole other aspect to what we live, what
we see, what we may not see in life, and
knowing that this exists. So please enjoy this interview with
Andrew I personally did, and hopefully you guys do as well.
Check it out. I'm sitting here with Andrew Abraham's and
(01:55):
we are talking about dog War. First of all, Andrew,
thank you so much much for stopping by the bus
to talk to me about this. Really appreciate it. Great
to be here. I am going to first of all
start off by saying this was a very very hard watch,
and it wasn't easy, and I think there were I
(02:19):
know I was already warned about potentially seeing some things
that I was not ready for, but when I got
to the parts where I and guys, when I tell you,
when you're seeing dogs being torched, you're seeing these dogs
being beaten, You're going to see this in this film
when you have the opportunity to see, which I implore
you to do, and we're going to get into that.
(02:40):
As to why I suggest that you do see this,
it's it was hard for me to see that. I
literally jumped out of my skin, especially not thinking I
was going to see the dogs being hit and beaten,
let alone burned. I was not ready for that, and
when I saw it literally scared me to death.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So I don't know if you're gonna draw many viewers
based on that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
No, but it's it for me. I think because a
lot of people know I love dogs and people like
to no uncertain terms do. Nicknamed me the dog Whisperer,
so I think that's probably another reason why they'll understand
why I'm a bit upset by watching this, but also
trying to get this message out as well. This was
(03:32):
in South Korea, if I'm not mistaken where this took place,
and I want to know one how I believe I
might have had this wrong, but I believe this was
what six years? Was it? Six years? And making this okay?
And it basically stems from seeing not just these dogs
(03:53):
being beaten in torture, but there are people who are
eating dog meat over in this area, and we have
these two war veterans who are going over to want
to save these dogs. How did you get in? How
did you get involved in this project from the job?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Uh, Like like all my films, it's it's something that
stands out. It needs to be something that stands out
to me. Something I didn't know about, something that's unseen, unknown,
something that's sort of like falling through the cracks. And
in this case, when it came to me, when someone
came to me with this issue, I didn't know anything
(04:32):
about it. I was kind of shocked. But it wasn't
just the issue of eating dog meat. It was also
some of the other other aspects of it, like some
of the myths about it, that that it was good
for you, it was good for your health, that it
was that that it was like a natural viagra.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That it was.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know basically, you know, male stamina was increased, and
so so this was These were kind of angles that
I was very interested in, and I needed a some
kind of angle entree into this world.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And when I learned about this.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Team of or this group or team of of of
combat vets who were basically dedicating their lives to saving
dogs throughout the world, I was intrigued.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
This this sort of like.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Juxtaposition of war, heart hardened vets trained to kill, you know,
macho guys with you know, a heart of gold, you know, soft,
you know, animal loving. At the same time that that
intrigued me. So I'm interested in contrasts. I'm interested in
in that kind of place where our assumptions collide, you know.
(05:46):
And this was also it's also West versus East in
some way, And what what does that mean?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Is this cultural imperialism? Is this just cultural difference? Is
there are there borders for dogs and in other borders
for like some of the questions of ethics and humanity. So, uh,
those are things that just intrigued me.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
And so.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Basically my grappling with the with the subjects and with
the questions or something that I want to I basically
want to be a proxy for the viewer to ask
those same questions and to struggle with them as well.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It's interesting how you talked about when you got involved
with the project, about the myths that were associated with
this when you first heard about it. You know, it's
sort of you sort of dive into that during during
this as well. I know one of the things that
were called out was that one of the one of
the girls that gave a commentary was about how if
(06:46):
you were to harm a dog, if you were to
torture them so much, then the meat would be softer
and tender to eat and everything like that, And I
just kind of saptiricaled, like, but that's not okay either way,
and just that part of it, and then the conflict
between certain certain people there where you're seeing on one
(07:08):
side of it, people are just in the streets going like,
let's eat, let's go ahead and do this, Let's go
ahead and eat the dog. Met then you have the
other side of it going like, no, we got to
say the dogs, we got to save the dogs. So
I feel I'm just wondering just from your position, just
standing there and seeing these size going at it, and
how difficult for you was it to be in that
(07:29):
present moment where you're watching this unfold with with everybody,
because I know there are certain aspects, especially when they're
going in and trying to infiltrate, how how how difficult
was that in order for you to not I don't
want to say stay out of the way, but enough
to where you can get what you need in order
(07:51):
to convey the message for everybody that's watching.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think what I'm taking from this question is, like,
is how is it being in the midst of a war,
being in the midst of this dog war? And you know,
I can say a lot of things about that, Like
war is fascinating, Like if it weren't for the violence
(08:15):
of war, you know, for the for the the death
and destruction of war, sort of like writ large, it's
fascinating because like this is what it is. Is like
it's a it's a contrast, it's a clash of ideas,
and you know, and and so that's gonna happen, Like
(08:37):
that happens all the time, that contrasting, and you know,
hopefully we get to a point where that war doesn't
where it doesn't become violent and destructive. So I'm intrigued
by it. I'm intrigued by the questions, like I said,
and the contrasts that are coming together. And in this case,
(08:58):
it's around the dog meat in this street. Ah. I
do have a point of view, but I also understand
that it's important to represent all the different points of view.
I don't want to I don't want to spoon feed
pardon the expression, uh to the audience what they should think.
(09:20):
I want them to come to their own conclusions and
sort of show them against the Smorgasboard pardon the expression
of of of the different points of view. So I
like that, Like I really like that the tension that's
involved in the the the dog war issue and to
(09:42):
a greater extent, you know, the wars and tensions that
are all about us.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And like I said, I wish we could deal with
those in a way that is that is that is
not violent, that is more respectful, and I think we
would have better better outcomes if we didn't have to
resort to to violence. Ultimately, in this case with the
with dog war and with dog meat industry in South Korea, UH,
there is a happy ending, which is that the South
(10:12):
Korean government has banned the UH the industry and take
take it'll it'll start in twenty twenty seven, but it's
only because of because of this this UH, this war
that's been ongoing in South Korea for a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's that's great to hear. Thank you for sharing that
with us. And I believe that this this film is
actually premiering at the Chelsea Film Festival tomorrow. It's a.
It's a US premiere.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It had the world premiere at the rain Dance Film
Festival in London earlier this summer.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Okay, so this is the North American premiere tomorrow. Okay, gotcha?
And I I, like I said, I know it's a
very it's a very hard while, but I really would
encourage everybody to see it because, again, as you just
said yourself, very very eloquently, you're telling this story. You
have your point of view from this, but also you're
getting everybody else's point of view in this film. What
(11:12):
you're trying to get from from those who provided the
commentary as well as what you were able to capture.
And I'd like to say, can I say something about that? Yeah?
Is this you know, I hear.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
This a lot about like it's hard to watch, it's
hard to watch, and you know, most people aren't going
to go to a film that that, you know, when
they're being told it's hard to watch, it's hard to watch.
And so I'll say it's sometimes I call it the
must see film or a must see film that you
thought you couldn't watch. It's it's people who do watch
it usually say I thought it I didn't think I
(11:47):
thought it was going to be much worse than it was. Yes,
there were some difficult moments, but overall, you know, I
was drawn in, I was fascinated, and it left me
thinking and you know, I can't stop thinking about this.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's sort of like.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Grabbed, grabbed me and and won't let me go. So
I want people to have that experience of being challenged,
being questioned, like like, that's a great place to be.
And so I I you know, and I think we're
in a time where, you know, there are wars going
destructive wars going on in the world right now, and
(12:23):
people don't want to be like it's like we want
our safe spaces. We don't we want we don't want
to go through trauma and uh, for better for worse.
That's kind of the sort of the zeitgeist of the moment.
But I think we need to continue challenging ourselves and
in some ways come out of our bubble of protection
(12:44):
and safety so that we can see the world in
a fresh way. So that's how I would sort of
represent it. It's something that's good for you, not like
overall bad for you, something that will make you, uh,
that will expand your horizons, not just you know, make
you curl up into a into a shell and you know,
(13:06):
give give up.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I like how you put that, because it's exactly really
what happened after I was finished watching it. Because I
did come out out of the movie where I did
have thoughts about it, did have questions about it. I
also was one that did not know this was going on,
and so just to have that visibility into it, to
(13:30):
your point, I agree, I it wasn't as hard of like,
it wasn't that difficult to watch. I came out of
that basically going like I learned something from it, and
now I get to question I get to question it
what we watched and how are we able to take
that and discuss it even further continue to have that conversation.
(13:52):
So I definitely agree with that assessment because that's honestly
what happened with me when I watched the film. It
really was a thought provoking film, and I also appreciated
everything that was brought to the screen, and I was
able to see people's happiness when the vets came in
and saved and saved the dogs, and it was just
(14:15):
it really was. It was challenging for me that I
never knew about it, but then as I got to
watch it and see everything progress, I was very happy
with the outcome that we were able to end on
the note with yeah, yes. So I appreciate that you
(14:37):
were able to convey that message not just in the
film but also in the conversation that we're having now.
So thank you for that. And I really hope everybody
gets to watch this when it does premiere tomorrow at
the Chelsea Film Festival, because again, like me, you're gonna
come out of this with you never knew about it,
but you're going to now realize, oh my gosh, this
(14:59):
is happening. What other you know, what other things can
we talk about or what can we see? Yeah, and
it's you know, what I'd like to add to that
is that it's also a film, you know, and as
a film film films need to entertain, they need to engage,
and I think the film apart from you know, any
(15:20):
sort of like questions of ethics and morality and and
and and sort of like those those overarching questions like
it's it's you take a ride in this film, like
you know, it's a real like it's a it's it's it's.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
A it's a thriller in a way, and I know,
so I don't want to like when I say entertaining,
I don't. I don't want to be sound flippant. But
it's a moving film, like in all the different ways,
Like you're moved from beginning to end, and you get
to a different place at the end than when you started.
And I think that's what makes a good film.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It does, and it, honestly, it really did. It really
did change the feeling of what I watched it. I
was in this one place because I kept saying that
in the beginning, as you called out, But then when
I got to the end of it, I was like,
this was this is good. This was good. And I'm
a big thing of documentaries as it is, so I
enjoyed it very very much and getting the chance to
(16:23):
learn something new that I had not learned before. So
thank you very much for bringing that to me and
being able to review it and discuss it with you.
I would love to talk about this more if I
could ever get the opportunity to do that with you.
I would love to sit back and talk with you
a lot more about this, for sure. I'd be more
than happy too. Absolutely Andrew, thank you so much for
(16:43):
stopping by. I really really appreciate it. All right. The
film made its US premiere at the Chelsea Film Festival
last month, and when we learned more, we'll let you
know on how you can watch Dog War itself. Many
thanks to Andrew Abraham for stopping by the buzz Cast
to talk about this documentary and bringing more information to
our eyes. Here. That's gonna do it for me for
(17:05):
right now. I'm the veljle making sure you keep getting
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(17:26):
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