167: How to Achieve True Freedom with Mike Bledsoe

Mike Bledsoe is the CEO of The Strong Coach, helping coaches build 6 figure businesses. He brings physical, emotional, cognitive and spiritual development to every conversation for a holistic approach to life.With a background of 16 years in coaching, including 11 years specifically in the online and media sectors, Mike guided numerous clients towards transforming both their businesses and personal lives.

His ultimate mission revolves around empowering influencers to regain command over their financial stability.

For many people, ultimate freedom means having the ability to do what you want, when you want, and with who you want. As Jerry Rice once said, "I'm willing to do things other people won't so that later on in life I can have the opportunity to do what other people can't."

In this episode, we'll explore what it takes to create ultimate freedom in your life and why money alone is not enough…

If you're looking for a healthy dose of reality, inspiration, and fresh perspective...then listen all the way through this episode as we explore how you can create ultimate freedom and start living the life you truly deserve.

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TIME STAMPS

• Freedom [00:01:25] Mike and Taylor discuss different types of freedom, including emotional, physical, mental, and cultural freedom.
• Physical Freedom [00:02:45] Mike explains physical freedom as being fit and capable of doing physical activities, while some people are incapable and have limited options.
• Plane Travel and Stress [00:06:00] Mike and the Taylor talk about their experiences with plane travel and how they deal with stress, including regulating breathing and not worrying about things out of their control.
• Reluctant Entrepreneur [00:08:14] Mike talks about his initial resistance to becoming an entrepreneur and how he eventually embraced it.
• Calibrating Intuition [00:13:55] Mike discusses the importance of calibrating intuition with data and being aware of whether you are listening to intuition or fear.
• Normal Job [00:15:49] Mike explains that he would only consider a normal nine-to-five job if it was incredibly exciting, lucrative, and gave him a strong sense of purpose.
• Entrepreneurship and time freedom [00:18:47] Mike talks about his experience as an entrepreneur and how being in control of his own time has played to his benefit and detriment.
• Traveling for work vs. pleasure [00:21:28] Mike shares his experience of traveling for work and how he only started traveling for pleasure in 2018. He advises finding a balance between traveling for business and pleasure.
• Taking a vacation [00:24:14] The speakers discuss the importance of taking a vacation and just being, without worrying about work or content creation. Mike Bledsoe advises taking a vacation every third trip taken for business.
• Traveling with a crew [00:25:00] Mike talks about his experience traveling with the same crew for five years and how it created tension at times.
• Impact of government restrictions on entrepreneurs [00:25:42] The host asks Mike how the government restrictions impacted him as an entrepreneur during the pandemic.
• Realization that the pandemic was "bullshit" [00:30:44] Mike talks about how he and his friend realized that the pandemic was "bullshit" after analyzing the numbers and the narrative.
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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
All right. On this episode ofThe Captain's Lifestyle Podcast, I'm here with
repeat guest Mike Bledsoe and my balls. Balls first is how we're gonna lead

(00:35):
this episode. And uh oh beforewe do that, I forgot to charge
these Normally they sit in the quantumblock. But we'll we'll just blast off
like this. We got we gotdirty charge Yeah, keytone, I Q
action just yeah, just rip,rip and rip. Cheers down the hatch.

(00:59):
This is my third shot of theday. So I am on point.
Wow, yeah, brain is brainis on. It probably doesn't need
any more fuel for a couple ofdays. Yeah, I'll be good for
a week. No food, nowater, just air and son. All
right, So today's episode it's goingto be on freedom, freedom. Freedom.

(01:23):
So on our last episode, wetalked a little bit on emotional freedom,
and you define that as being ableto be present with any emotion that
comes up and still accept and lovethat feeling. Would you like to expand
on that definition or is that Iwould say that's pretty point for emotional freedom,

(01:47):
yeah, specifically, yeah, Yeah, there's there's different types of freedom,
so emotional being one of them.What other types of freedom? I
would say physical freedom, yes,and yeah, mental freedom, psychological freedom,
and you could probably say cultural freedomas well, which would be a

(02:12):
little different than physical freedom. Butthe way I see it is anywhere in
which you want to experience more freedomin your life, you have to become
more responsible and you have to beable to That means that you have a
greater ability to respond. So theway I see it is the more capable
I become in an area, themore freedom I get to, the more

(02:35):
options I have. What do youmean by physical freedom physical freedom? I
would say being fit is being verycapable. Like I have a lot of
physical freedom. Someone says, hey, you want to go snowboarding, or
you want to go run this race, or you want to do something comes
up and I need to lift somethingheavy. I can do it, so
we just moved. That's right exactly. So it's it's there's a lot of

(02:59):
people who they don't experience very muchphysical freedom at all because they're just incapable.
Their options are extremely limited. Someonelike yourself, you don't even know
what it's like to be limited physically, well, you have no idea,
no, But and the person that'sbeen incapable of their entire life doesn't know
what's possible. You're living in twototally different worlds. The only example that

(03:23):
I can think of when I wasor when I could have been limited physically
was when I broke my ankle andyou know, couldn't do leg exercises.
But even then I use that totrain even more. Like the doctors obviously
said stay off it, rest,don't move right, and I did the

(03:43):
exact opposite. I would you dobanded leg exercises. I would pull up
a rower and I would sit onthe rower, and then I'd put my
casted leg on the other rower andstill move I taught myself how to handstand
walk when when my ankle was broken. And people are are so quick to
make excuses as to why they can'tdo things. Yeah, yeah, I

(04:04):
remember suffering from a pretty gnarly hamstringinjury when I was weightlifting, and I
just decided to get really strong withthe rings. I got a pair of
gymnastics rings hung the twenty feet andI started I downloaded a program for ring
training, and I started doing someof those routines that you see I was

(04:25):
in like Olympics stuff. I wasn'ta pull on an iron too like that.
I was like doing one arm,but I was I was doing these
sequences that you know in CrossFit yougot rings, you might do pull ups
or dips or some muscle ups.But I was able to start. I
started stringing together some things and workingon levers. And with every injury there's
an opportunity for there to be agift. And that was the gift is

(04:48):
is I got to do a lotof things that I didn't feel like I
had time to fit in my trainingpreviously. It feels good to be able
to move your body how you wantedto be able to control roll your body
through through different ranges of motion.Yeah. I think that's something that most
people have never experienced. They don'tunderstand one how to move properly. Like

(05:12):
almost nobody knows how to squat correctly. That's something I talked about with Alex
on episode earlier today. We forgetyeah, because as babies, everything's perfect,
Like everything's perfect. You just squatand it's like the perfect squat.
And then we go throughout life,sit in school and yeah, stagnant.

(05:34):
Yeah. One thing, one thingI think you might find interesting, um
is I found you know, howlike sitting is supposed to be bad for
you right, It's like sitting forextended periods of time. Right. So
I found that I back in theday, if I jumped on an airplane,
I was on it for four hours. I would get off the plane
and I was stiff. But thenI then I got really good at regulating

(05:58):
myself and being really calm and relaxedand a lot of belly breathing, And
then now I can get off aplane after four hours, I'm not stiff
at all, and I go,I had a light go off, and
I go, oh, sitting isnot the problem. It's being in one
single position and experiencing stress where yourbreathing patterns get jacked up, and then

(06:19):
that crazies creates stiffness. Now that'sthe problem. So it is interesting kids
sit in a school room and arestressed the fuck out. They don't want
to be there. No, no, Yeah. Plane travel was something that

(06:42):
I used to experience a lot ofstress around. Relatively speaking, I never
really got super stressed. But onceI started being mindful of the breathing from
you know, oxidative stress from mf'shydration, not eating the shitty airline food,
that abs made a difference, andjust mentally to like, we don't

(07:03):
have to be so stressed out aboutall these random little things that are out
of your control. There's no useworrying about them, right. I like
to pretend like I'm gonna die onthe plane. Yeah, this this fucker
is going down. I think aboutthat. I'm like, dude, I
think goes down, I'm gonna bemellow as fuck, just like, can
I be chill? And if Ican be chilled, then the the turbulence

(07:27):
just doesn't bother me so much.Yes, I think about that. It's
like, okay, well, ifif this fucking plane breaks in half and
I'm I just find myself falling throughthe sky, I could either freak the
fuck out or I can enjoy thered like I can like, you know,
pretend like I'm flying for the lastYeah. There, it's like why
not you know, worse it couldhappen. I just fucking die? Yeah,
yeah, big deal. Yeah,Okay, I'm glad I'm not the

(07:47):
only one who's experienced. I thoughtit was like, am I fucking crazy?
Like yeah, this is what Iam? Crazy? Yes? Um?
Okay, So before we dive intothe rest of this episode, I
want to I want to touch onyou or evolution as an entrepreneur. Yeah,
so bring us back to the beginning, baby Mike. I was a

(08:09):
reluctant entrepreneur. I opened up acrossthe gym in two thousand and seven.
I did not want to be abusiness owner. In fact, when I
was I decided when I was fifteenthat I was not going to do what
my dad did. My dad owneda construction business, and I watched the
ups and downs, and it wasn'tan conscious I mean, I knew that

(08:31):
I didn't want to be like mydad, you know how it is.
Yeah, not rebellious attitude, likea load. I want to be like
him, no matter what. Andso my rebellion was to go into the
Navy. I was like, allright, I'm gonna go into like the
most corporate environment you could imagine,and I'm going to insert myself there.

(08:52):
And that didn't work out. Thatwas I did well there, but I
just didn't want to be there.So when I got out, I got
a degree, I fell in lovewith a CrossFit thing. No one had
a gym open. I was like, well, someone's got to open a
gym. Who the fuck's going todo? Oh, I guess it's me
open it. Up, and Iwas like, well, I'm not going

(09:13):
to worry about marketing business and Idon't care about the money. I don't
care about any of this stuff.Like all I do is care about training
people and having a place for meand my friends. And in my head
because I was living in in afantasy because I was getting gi Bill money
because I was also in school,so it afford I wasn't it was insulating

(09:33):
myself from feedback. So I wasinsulated from feedback, and so I didn't
realize the truth yet. And thenit hit me. I go, oh,
I am either going to have tocreate a real job and this thing
is just going to be a hobbythat eats up the rest of my time,
or I need to throw myself atit completely and I have to study

(09:56):
some business stuff. And so itwas really interesting because I resisted it so
hard in my entire life until Iwas I guess I was twenty seven,
Yeah, and I finally gave in. I'll go, okay, I'll learn
this business stuff for the sake ofthe gym. And then within two to
three months of studying business, Irealized I fucking loved it. And I

(10:20):
learned that this word entrepreneur existed.I didn't. That word didn't register for
me when I opened up my facility. And this is why I said I
was a reluctant entrepreneur. And thenand then I was studying this guy and
he goes, yeah, there's atype E entrepreneur and that type E entrepreneur
and he describes all the characteristics andI go, holy shit, that's me.

(10:43):
And so that's when I was ableto adopt that as an identity.
And then when I took on thatidentity. And then it was between that
and taking some personality tests. Iremember the first time I took the Myers
Briggs test and I think it wastwo thousand and nine, and I mean,
personality tests are all over the placenow, this is before there was

(11:05):
a dozen websites for a dozen differentpersonality tests. And I take it and
I read it. I almost startcrying because I'm like, oh, man,
I feel heard and understood, likeI felt so misunderstood up until that
point. And it was a PDFdocument and yeah, and I go,
oh, this is that people arelike this. I'm not the only one,

(11:30):
even though I was the only onethat I knew in my immediate vicinity
and I became way more open toactually leveraging these things and for the sake
of business, and it ended upbeing something I really really enjoy and I've
been I've been an entrepreneur for it'llbe sixteen years in the fall, and

(11:52):
there's been ups and downs. There'stimes where I hated it. I go,
of course, I'm like, Idon't want to you know, I
just need to find someone to partnerwith it's going to handle this and I'll
just do this creative stuff. Andbut there's no way I'm gonna let anyone
run my shit. That's what that'suh, that's what I've learned. What
about um, you said it waswhat three months into studying business where you

(12:22):
were like, oh, this actuallyis enjoyable. Like it was? It
was interesting? Okay, I wouldn'tsay it was enjoyable, okay, because
I remember I was. I gotinto it and like one of the first
things was you have to start trackingthings. That's what Yeah, like printed
off a spreadsheet. He's like,how many people are showing up the class,

(12:45):
how many people came to the website, how many people go did this?
And I was just like it seemedthe tracking seemed like an insurmountable task
relatable. But I was lucky becauseI ended up taking on a business partner
around that time, who Dug Larson, who ended up being my co host

(13:07):
on and business partner with Barbell Shrugged, and he was all about it.
I called him mister spreadsheet for awhile, and he would put it up
and he would do it even ifI didn't do it. And finally it
was I started seeing the results ofdoing it. I go, oh,
the information this gives me. Thatinformation allows me to make better decisions.

(13:28):
Oh, I can see way moreclearly, because up until that point I'd
been doing everything off of how Ifelt like, I'm just gonna run my
shit intuitively. Yeah. But theproblem is intuition is great. I operate
from intuition a lot, but ifyou don't calibrate it occasionally or frequently enough
with data, then your intuition mayjust be way off. You're not again

(13:52):
being present with the truth, whichtruth shows up in numbers? How can
we calibrate our intuition? So payingpaying attention to you know, you get
that gut feeling I should or Ishouldn't do this thing right like uh?
And then I mean, but yourintuition has been wrong before you're like,

(14:13):
oh, I should do this thing, and then you're like, what the
fuck that was a terrible decision becausethere's also this intuition is like, um,
you can mistake it for fear,like or like, oh, I
want to please somebody else. Likethere's an example of I wanted to please
somebody else and I had taken theirperspective and I had internalized it and I

(14:33):
did something for them, and Iwas speaking like coming what felt like intuitive,
But then when I look back onthe result, like, well,
my intuition, what that was wrong? But it really wasn't my intuition.
So it's not so much an intuitionbeing needs to be calibrated as like you
need to calibrate whether you are listeningto your intuition or are you listening to
some type of fear and the numbersand checking in with yourself like having the

(15:00):
awareness and going, oh, thiscreated this result. What was I feeling
right before, right when I madethat decision. Oh, when I was
having that conversation with that person andI was I made that choice, What
was my experience in that moment?Oh, Now, when I have that
experience in the future. I knowthat that's that's that feeling actually means this

(15:22):
over here, not this over here, It actually means to go the other
way. And so I think thata lot of the intuitive patterning from childhood
is good for surviving your childhood butterrible at thriving as an adult. What
would it take for you to geta normal nine to five job? Ah,

(15:50):
is there a universe that that MikeBledsoe exists. It would have to,
man, it would have to beincredibly exciting and lucrative there it would
be Um, I'd have to beworking with somebody who was really doing something

(16:11):
special, and I felt that mycontribution was making a major impact, like
feeling a sense of purpose behind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't come across anything that inspiresthat much purpose outside of my own

(16:33):
whatever I'm choosing to do. Yeahyeah, what about freedom? Like?
What about time? Freedom? Like, even if it was lucrative and you
felt a strong sense of purpose,if you had to be there, you
know the times that they said youhad to be there, well for how
long? I mean at least fora year? Yeah, yeah, I

(16:57):
could do like a lifetime Like ifyou go, oh, for the next
forty years nine to five. No, yeah, no, But because I
have actually toyed with this. Asan example, I have been involved with
a startup and on more of likeinvesting and consulting side of things, and

(17:18):
they were wanting me to come inand play with the team. I go,
you know, this is actually reallyfucking cool. I did consider it.
This is a like a year anda half ago ago. Okay,
I could. This is gonna bebig. This is gonna be you know,
there's a company that starting here andthey're shooting for a billion dollar valuation.
They're not kidding. They really wantto go they want to go public,

(17:38):
they want to be huge, andI still believe they can do it.
You know, I think they will. And I'm like I started,
I started dreaming about, oh whatwould it be like to have my own
fingerprints of creativity on this thing that'sgoing to reach millions of people. And

(17:59):
I think there was a bit egoand that popping up and going oh yeah,
I could have whatever. And Igo and and a couple of the
founders they believed that I was theright guy to do that job. And
every so I had a few meetingswith them. Every time I met with
them, I left with more oflike more of uncertainty about what I would

(18:19):
actually do to contribute to the companybecause before I had my idea. I
bring my idea in about what Iwould want to do and it's and it
got steered completely like no, weneed it more like this, and I
go, well, I don't thinkI'm the right guy for that job.
And so that was really the lasttime I that was like the first time
in the last time I entertained thatyeah, yeah, yeah. A lot

(18:42):
of people get into entrepreneurship to feelfree to do what they want to do
when they want to do it.This was the case for me. I
realized when I was coaching CrossFit andI had some I guess disagreements with the

(19:04):
owners of the gym, and theywouldn't let me run it. How we
agreed that we would run it asas head coach, and so I was
like, okay, well, I'mnot going to just stay on and do
what they want me to do whenit goes against my integrity the values that
we set for the gym. Iwanted to be free to create what I
wanted to create, and so foryou in the past sixteen years, yeah,

(19:32):
as an entrepreneur. How has howhas being able to be in control
of your own time? How hasthat played to your benefit and also to
your detriment. It's definitely done both. Yea, yeah, yeah. So
I remember when in the beginning ofmy entrepreneurial career, I didn't take any

(19:56):
vacations from two thousand and seven,from two thousand and seven to twenty twelve,
twenty thirteen, I mean I hada hard time going and driving three
hours to see my family. Wow, I was working seven days a week.
I saw no way. This iswhen you were in the gym.

(20:18):
This is when I was in thegym. So that's that's six years,
about about five or six years.I mean, I didn't know what a
vacation was, and I didn't evenI had no so I had a choice,
but I always chose to work.Did you want to take a vacation?
Absolutely? Okay, absolutely, yeah. It wasn't because I was in
love with what I was doing.Is because I was too afraid that if

(20:41):
I left that things would fall apart. And so I haven't experienced absolutely like
I haven't taken advantage of the timefreedom the entire journey. The last decade.
It was progressive. So when Istarted uh barbell shrug. When I
started out with the team and westarted traveling, we started experiencing a little

(21:04):
more freedom. I had someone elseworking at the gym and I didn't have
to I could sleep in if Iwanted, I could travel, and I
could. There was a couple timeswhere I would stay somewhere a couple extra
days, even though we didn't havework to take advantage of that. And
so that that time, freedom reallystarted happening when I was online. It
didn't it didn't happen when I wasin brick and mortar. It really started

(21:26):
happening when I was online. Andyeah, within a year of traveling constantly
for the show, the idea ofdoing a nine to five or needing to
be in one spot for very longbecame very difficult. And fast forward three
or four years into that process,where I was traveling more more days.
When I was home, I wouldbe home a max of three weeks,

(21:49):
and by that third week I wouldstart getting the itch. I go,
oh, I gotta, I gotta, I need to get out of the
house. I gotta go somewhere.I gotta go get some novelty, I
would say, I didn't. Ididn't really travel for pleasure until twenty eighteen.
It's about five years ago I realizedthat all my travel always revolved around

(22:10):
work. There's always a podcast orthere was always a workshop where there was
always it was like I was Iwas traveling the world but for work,
and I was having fun. ButI never went and just hung out with
somebody because I want to hang outwith them. There was always this fantasy
that would go hang out with them, but I always was tying work into

(22:33):
it somehow. What advice would yougive to me who is currently doing that
exact thing that you described, Yeah, well, yeah, you don't want
to. So what I did wasI walked away from everything and I only
traveled for pleasure in twenty eighteen,which did create a lot of really beautiful
things. It's actually it was duringthat time that I helped create and lifted,

(22:56):
and that's when the Strong Coach cameup and I was helping with train
Camp for the Soul. That's whenall those things occurred. Was when I
was in that super free flow state, unintentionally building things, just doing things
out of passion. But that alsowas not a sustainable way of living life.

(23:17):
I think that that finding some typeof a balance. I would say,
you know, for every third tripthat you take for business, do
something that's purely for pleasure. Yeah, I'm not bringing a camera. I'm
not I'm not doing a podcast,I'm not doing any that ship. I'm
just gonna go and I'm gonna dothis thing. I'm gonna go backpacking or
go to Mexico or all right.My big thing was there was all these

(23:38):
people who had met over the years. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna
come hang out with you, andI never did. So in twenty eighteen,
I went and hung out with thosepeople and there was no camera crew
or there was none of that,and it was a lot of fun and
um but I almost everything in mylife, I think you're very similar in

(23:59):
this is a lot of extra yeah, right, And as I've gotten older,
I go, oh, it doesn'tneed to be so extreme. I
can play in the middle here,so I can take a vacation out here,
but I can also travel for work. Yeah. This, Uh,
this has me thinking because I've I'vedefinitely experienced in the past few months like
I just want to go somewhere andjust be like, not worry about getting

(24:22):
content or you know, just takea vacation essentially. And so I'm playing
this in my head as you werethinking that, I was like, that
sounds really good. I like thatidea. I like that idea, and
I've designed my life around this wherewe do have a camera crew, so
I will I will take your adviceand just go somewhere to just be Yeah,

(24:48):
okay, that goes for all ofyou. Yes, yes, we
all need some time to just berelax. Yeah. I think there's like
a little bit of There was aboutfive years where I was traveling with the
same crew constantly for Barbel for Barbellshrug, and yeah, it just created
more tension at times the fun startedto fade away. Yeah, yeah,

(25:10):
I can see that all right,Uh, switching gears a little bit.
The past few years have impacted entrepreneursdefinitely in freedom with the government saying hey,
you cannot can no longer be inbusiness, you have to close your

(25:32):
gym, you know whatever. Howhas that impacted you if at all?
You know, it was funny becausebefore that whole debacle, Uh, that's
a nice try to get anyone canceled. I was canceled. Yeah, go
ahead and try. Uh before that, before all of that. Um I

(25:57):
was I was living in a worldwhere no one ever bothered me, and
I just got to do whatever thefunk I wanted. I want to leave
the country. I could do thatand for the first time, and it
was a twenty twenty and I andI'm like, look, I don't want
to be involved in politics. I'venever been, dude. I'm very much

(26:19):
so an anarchist. Like, I'mlike, let people have the maximum amount
of freedom as long as they're nothurting anybody. That's all that is so
anchy. Anarchy doesn't mean there's norules, but it means that there's no
ruler, right, and we getto rule ourselves. Before we continue on
that, I think it would bebeneficial to define freedom. What do you

(26:42):
mean when you say maximum amount offreedom? Not to be able to do
whatever it is that you want todo without harming without as long as you
don't harm anybody. Yeah, becausenow you're impeding on their freedom. Yes,
right, So I can do whateverthe fuck I want as long as
I don't bother your freedom. Right. And the major problem we have right
now is people whatever is happening ona micro level is happening on a macro

(27:07):
level like as above, so blow, as within, so without, And
when you work with people on apsychological level, like I've done a lot
of coaching with people on a verypsychological level. At the core of most
people's problem is they are practicing.They want to control their environment, They
want to control other people than theirrelationships, They want to control their feelings,

(27:30):
they want to control. They needthis control and letting go of that
control is an intense process. Andit's not someone something someone just chooses to
do one day. This is somethingtakes years and years and years or having
some massive experience in order to evenrealize what that means. And so what
I'm what I witness and that's whatI witnessed over the last three years is

(27:55):
and why I've never been interested inpolitics because I've always I don't care what
side of the aisle you're sitting on. Both people are arguing about how they
can control everybody else. Right,It's like, it'll be like, why
don't you vote, I'm like,because I have no business telling you how
to live your life. Yeah,Like there's no one I can vote for
that is going to be like,you know what, I'm going to do
my best just to get rid ofany laws trying to control people that aren't

(28:18):
harming anybody like that just doesn't AndI'm sure those candidates exist, but no
one ever hears ever going to win. Yeah, because the system is not
made for that. The system isbuilt. There's a there's a conference going
on in town right now where it'sit's an independent conference. And had a
few people trying to get me togo, and I was like, I'm
not interested because I'm in the I'veseen the what's app thread and it's still

(28:41):
people wanting to control other people's behaviorand so um it it's interesting. So,
yeah, the freedom is being ableto do whatever you want without as
long as I'm not bothering you,right, like not that like you not
bothering you, and that you I'mbothering something that you want to control me

(29:03):
over, but I'm not directly impedingyour ability to do what you want.
So so no one was really messingwith my freedom much. Yeah, I
had to jump through these hoops TSA. I fucked with them back uh the
going into other countries? How didyou fuck with TSA? UM? I
asked them a lot of questions.At the time I started, I was
like I was like, oh,why do you why do you want to

(29:25):
test my phone? Why do youwhy are you swabbing that? What are
you looking for? And they alwaysare so annoyed. I'm like, look,
man, you're my service to me, motherfucker, like supposedly yeah,
So like answer my questions. Youknow, you can bring water on the
airplane. What do you mean youcan? You can bring water past t
say no, yeah, just saythis is my medical grade water. They'll

(29:48):
take it and new problem solved.Yes, a little travel tip for you,
yes, yeah, um yeah,so um yeah. I mean,
I, you know, put upwith some bullshit here and there's always going
to be that, um so Iand it never bothered me. But when
they when they closed down the borderto Columbia because I had I had a
ticket and I was supposed to bein Columbia the day they shut the border

(30:11):
down, and I didn't have anywhereto go by the way, and I
was like, oh, all right, well maybe this whole two weeks to
flatten the curved thing, you know, whatever, I'll go to I'll go
to Utah, hang out at Zionfor a couple of weeks, kick it.
And I watched the stats every day. I was like, I'm watching
the numbers they're reporting, I'm watchingthis YouTube video, I'm listening to this.

(30:33):
I'm like collecting all the data.And I'm and I've got my buddy
that we were crunching the data together. And he's a very successful entrepreneur.
He's a he's an eight figure guyand very good with numbers. He was
a professional poker player before he gotinto business. He's just e can just
and he's amazing at Facebook ads andthese are just all numbers games he's really

(30:57):
good at. And we're both lookingat and it's about three weeks in,
we go, oh, it's allbullshit, Like it's like this has been
spreading exponentially for three weeks. Whyisn't the whole planet infacted yet? Like
it's like the predictions were changing bythe day, and the predictions for what

(31:17):
was going to happen after that daystarted getting more extreme, and the predictions
that were made previously were never met, and we go, oh, Okay,
it's bullshit. And so about threeweeks in, I was like,
come on, guys, like,like we figured it out, like just
by the numbers, Like and Ireally like looking at things from that perspective,
you go look just by the numbers. This was analytical, Like I

(31:37):
don't need to know the science behindthe virus. I don't need to know
any of those things. All Ineed there's two things I can look at.
I can look at the numbers andI can look at the narrative.
And when these things are not liningup, or the narrative is full of
too much fear, and the narrativeis trying to use numbers that are that
are funny, it's like, Okay, this is all bullshit, and I

(32:00):
got I got really I got reallyupset. I got really really upset.
In fact, I had bouts ofdepression after that because I was so disappointed
and how the general public responded tothe fear campaign, and it was it

(32:22):
was really enlightening to me, LikeI was presented with a truth that I
was able to ignore previously before.I was like, yeah, people are
buying into a bunch of bullshit.They're eating all this processed food, they're
killing themselves. But what what canI do about it. I'm just you
know, like I put out mymessage and if they want to come,
it's an invitation. Anyone can joinme as long as you're wanting to get

(32:44):
better, I will, I willhelp you, I will coach you,
I will whatever. If somebody comes, if somebody really wants help and they're
willing to do the work, likeI almost like all mentor somebody for free
at times, if like they know, if they're just like rabid about it,
right, you get it, likeit does no matter what you're getting
paid, as long as they're they'relike, yeah, they're into it.
And so I just, um,I was able to ignore all that,

(33:08):
but then it started directly impacting me. It's like, oh, I can't
travel because of these motherfuckers. AndI got depressed and I got angry,
and and yeah, I just reallyreally started um looking at it, and
I go, wow, how canI make an impact here? And then
if you start trying to tell peoplean opposing narrative now your shadow band,

(33:32):
it's like, what the fuck isgoing on here? Yeah you've been there.
Yeah, so it's it's a reallyinteresting thing. And um, yeah,
I come to the conclusion this isa it's a spiritual war, and
uh, people are they don't knowwho they are, they don't know themselves,

(33:53):
and all of these fear tactics,uh, you know, they're gonna
be using it around money next.Is a way of keeping people trapped and
separated from themselves. And the lessthey know themselves, the easier they are
to control. And people don't knowthemselves as sovereign beings. They don't know

(34:14):
that they are as equal to meand you there, as equal to anyone
who finds himself in some type ofpolitical office. Nobody has any more rights
than anybody else, and there isno royalty, like we're the everybody's royalty.
Right. But this idea that somepeople have more rights than others and
have the right to tell other peoplehow to live their lives, is that's

(34:37):
the war, right, That's that'sthe spiritual war, because if you know
who you are, then you knowthat we're all equal, we're the same,
we're one. And if you don'tknow that, then you're caught up
and thinking that some people are betterthan others and need to be told what
to do. So just because somebodyhas a badge and a gun doesn't mean

(34:57):
that you can tell me what todo. That's right. Wow, fascinating
concepts there. What if what ifI draw a circle around this map and
say, anybody who lives within thiscircle has to give me money because you
live within this circle exactly? Isthat that doesn't exist either? No,
oh, no, total bullshit.I Mean the way I see is,

(35:17):
if I have to pay anybody anythingfor something like that, I'm basically just
paying to be left alone. Itreat paying any agency any money for anything
as a I'm paying the gangsters whoare running the neighborhood. And if I
don't do this, they're gonna burnmy house down, you know. You

(35:38):
know, they're gonna tell you inchild, and if you resist that,
they'll fucking kill you. And sothe um and then all the wars going
on around the world are just turfwars, right, it's all this very
strategic control. The United States governmentjust bought Ukraine, the bread basket of

(36:01):
Europe, and has total control becausethey're now in a massive amount of debt
to the US that they'll never beable to pay off. So now they
have to do anything we say,or how everything the gangster saying. So
this is all gangster alliances the wayI see it, and when I look
at it like that, it allmakes way more sense than anything else.

(36:23):
Now that you put it that way, that's it makes so much sense.
Paying to be left alone. Yeah, yeah, what's going on with your
brother Matt? Oh SHITU dude.My brother Matt is in prison, federal

(36:47):
prison. He was sentenced to fouryears. He started serving at the beginning
of December for walking into the Capitolbuilding on January sixth. He was totally
not violent. He you know,he filled me and I actually recorded a

(37:07):
show with him that I have notposted, partly because there's a little bit
of concern that that because he's inthis system. A lot of times what
they do is well, okay,little little context here. When you're in
the prison system, it's a business, and they have these points systems that

(37:30):
if you behave yourself then and Iknow a couple of people in prison,
so I know this from more thanone. There is not just one perspective,
and in different prisons, so itseems like the story is pretty much
the same everywhere. So when you'rein prison, they give you points,

(37:51):
and if you get points taken off, then they take time off of your
sentence. Right. But it's beneficialto the prison to keep you as long
as possible because the longer you're inprison, the more they're going to get
money from the government for keeping youin prison. And on top of that,
if you want time off of youryour your sentence, then you work,
So you're going to do a job. So my brother is doing building

(38:13):
furniture, and then they take thatfurniture and they sell it back to the
government. And you know you werein the Marines, right, so you
know that everything that we purchase islike that the military purse. The government
spends like three times as much oneverything. If you buy a computer,
it's three times more expensive. Likeeverything is just way more expensive. So

(38:34):
he builds furniture, and his furnitureis then sold to the government. So
the prison is getting paid to housemy brother and they're getting paid for the
labor he does, and then theycan't seem to keep up with his points
very accurately. Imagine that, right, And I know another guy in prison
who has has been in a lotlonger and has experienced the same thing.

(39:00):
So it's, um, it's alittle difficult. So you gotta like ride
this line of is what I'm goingto say, going to rile up the
wrong person that makes a phone calland my brother's points get lost and now
he has to stay in longer andthen make them more money and so so

(39:22):
I I have a show that Irecorded with him that I'm a post and
that's why. But I can speakabout it to a degree and from what
I can you know, from hisreport to me, which and he never
pulled me aside privately, like butI actually did this. My brother would
tell me that shit like he knowsI'm not gonna go blathering about it.

(39:45):
And he didn't say the whole time. He was like, yeah, man,
Like I walked in and the doorswere open, we wandered around.
It was actually kind of comical becausehe had a Trump flag and he's walking
around. There's actually a video ofhim walking around that was shown in his
is a case. And then atsome point he tries to put the flag

(40:07):
in the hands of one of thestatues inside the Capitol building. It's kind
of it's kind of comical and andand then tear gas gets shot into the
place and he goes, oh,I guess it's time to leave, and
so he leaves. So there wasno like the there weren't that many people
that got four years like him,Like the was his name, the shaman,

(40:30):
I don't know Q. Yeah,yeah, he got four years.
So no one got my brother gotthe max out of everybody. So there's
only a handful of guys that gotfour years. And the reason he got
four years is because he did somethingthat was Um, look, here's the
thing. He didn't do anything immoral. He didn't do anything wrong, but

(40:52):
I won't say that he lacked judgment. It was still stupid. He walks
in the building goes, hey,where are these people? Right? Like
in a way that was like,oh wow, he's he basically created evidence,
put it on Instagram that like,he's looking for the people who are
running this show. Right. Zerothreats, no direct threats. In fact,

(41:14):
if you listen to other politicians talkabout each other, those threats are
fucking you'd be like, oh,they just threatened to kill that other person.
Yeah they should, you're supposed todo something about it. He didn't
make any direct threats about anyone inspecifically, and he didn't threaten any violence
whatsoever. He wandered in two doorsthat were already opened, which we already

(41:35):
know that you know who opened thosedoors. I'm not. I don't have
to say it. Uh and uh, you know, if you don't know
that yet, you're probably not watchingthis show watching. Yeah, you're watching
un network. Uh so. Um, by the way, I am not

(41:58):
political either. I don't want FoxNews or CNN. I could give two
ships about politics. Yeah. Solike when my brother went, I was
actually in Columbia. The border hadactually opened up, and I was down
there and he's like, I'm goingup there, and I was like,
I got on the phone in themind like I wouldn't do that. Why
why are you? Why are youinserting yourself and his bullshit? Like I

(42:22):
had had conversations with him over thelast several years where I was trying to
get him to see things from myperspective, which was like that that thing
is a is a and shambles,like like it's it's obsolete. There are
there are systems coming online. Don'twaste your time with this old system.
It seems important. And you know, the Roman Empire seemed important to the

(42:45):
people in six hundred a d.But it had already crumbled and they didn't
know that. They were still upholdingthe courts, they were still going through
the motions, but they didn't knowthat it had crumbled. And so,
um, this is my perspective,based on the research that I've done,
is everything's decentralizing, and not everyone'sgoing to be aware of how decentralized it

(43:07):
already is until much time has passed. So I tried to convince him of
that, and it was a littleI was a little frustrated that he went.
And then the night after January,like January sixth, that night had
a hard time sleeping. Actually,I saw the video of him on Instagram
and he where he did that story, and I was like, oh,

(43:27):
good for him, He's it feelslike he's getting his voice heard, you
know. That was like my Ihad no idea what building he was in.
I didn't know anything. I waslike, I was like, you
know what he's been he's getting youknow, it seems like everybody in the
US, if they want to getmad and burn something down, they get
to do that and they get to, you know, blow off some steam.
And I was like, all right, well, he's just another one.

(43:49):
It does. And then next thing, you know, he got what's
called docked, which pretty much meansthat people put his address and pictures of
his home online and then people startedcalling. He had over a thousand death
threats come in what the next dayto his business. No, Yeah,
and my sister in law. Myother brother's wife is the one that answers

(44:13):
those phones. And halfway through theday, it was just like I can't
do this anymore. So God,like all these death threats from people who
don't understand, they only believe thenarrative. They don't actually they didn't know
what happened. So and then Ihad an old intern of mine messaged me
saying she was going to turn mybrother in. I was like, I

(44:34):
was like, what is wrong withyou? Oh? You God? So
that was like that put me ina bit of a depression because I was
like I actually was. I wasquestioning whether I come back or not.
I was like, well, I'min Columbia. Do I do I go
back to the US, Like,you know, it seems like a fucking
disaster right now. And I wasreally just disappointing the general public's ability to

(44:55):
grock information and and sift through it, like just so blatantly obvious to me
that all of its bs And I'mlike, okay, so so they throw
so yeah, he has to gostay at a farmhouse for a few days,
and then his neighbors like, noone's burned your house down yet he

(45:15):
comes home and a few days laterthe FBI raid his house, like thirty
FBI agents come in, plus hisdoor down, the hinges off the door.
He's got two daughters like four andseven and a wife and they come
in and they drag him out andthey slap an ankle bracelet on him.
For a year and a half,he wears his ankle bracelet, can't leave
town before he finally and he washe was one of the few people who

(45:37):
did not plea out. He didn'ttake a plea deal because he really believed
and he's right. He was rightand he was right. But you know,
the family and a lot of thefriends were like, look, it
doesn't matter if you're right or not. The justice system isn't about right and
wrong. It's about there's way otherthere's a lot of other shit going on
here. So you know, he'she's stuck to his guns. Hired one

(46:00):
of the people that hired his owna lawyer two and he ended up getting
you know, four years and yeah, he's he's serving that now. He's
um. I think he's doing well. I get to message him. I've
had one phone call with him.The hardest part, you knows, two

(46:22):
daughters at such a young age.Just it's really sad. And you know,
I'll reiterate, like, as afather of two daughters, he probably
shouldn't be driving a DC to protestlike an election. It's kind of bullshit,
all of its bullshit. I justdon't do that, Like it's unnecessary.

(46:43):
But he felt like he was doingthe right thing, you know,
and so he's suffering some of theconsequences of jumping into a cesspool of bullshit
a broken system. It's a brokensystem. So it's really sad. It's
hard. It's really hard for thefamily. Um, you know, some
of my siblings are upset with him, some of them, you know,

(47:06):
are supportive. And there's five ofus, and it's just kind of it's
been interesting. That blows my mindthat there were that many death threats.
Oh yeah, yeah, they didn'tstop. Yeah. Well, the funny
thing is he runs he runs amoving company, and the death threats were
coming into the moving company, andthen that next year he ended up doing

(47:29):
like a record breaking amount of salesbecause for every death threat, there was
somebody who's like, I like thatguy, you know what I mean,
Well, good shit, Yeah,everything always works out. He's to be
polarized. Yeah right, yeah,wow, okay, Yeah, those people
who send him the death threats havenever experienced mushrooms. They need a macro

(47:52):
dose a couple of them. Yeah. Oh man, okay, all right,
Well, if we are in thisbroken system, which we are,
how can we become more free?Well I'm not in the system, I'm
just observing it. How can wepay for you know, things to go?
Right? Um man? There's certainthings I don't know if I should

(48:15):
share publicly, but share what youwant. Um Okay. I'll start with
the most practical and something that peoplewill feel good about it, and I'll
end with the one that seems crazy. But the first being um is you

(48:35):
can protect a lot of your stuffwith trust. Everybody with the trust,
no like uh, you know,trust has a beneficiary, and it has
somebody who's in charge of the trustee, and and somebody who manages the trust.
And so you can there's a wayof creating a system of trust that

(48:55):
holds any assets. You can putyour car in a trust, put your
house in a trust, make someoneelse the beneficiary name it's something that's not
your name, and now it's notconnected to you at all. So you
can make yourself valueless, there's nothingto come after. Right. So the
idea is that you can control allthose assets, including bank accounts, but

(49:17):
you don't technically own them, right, So you control everything, own nothing,
and you can set these trust systemsin order to do that. And
the only thing is trust can't payfor is fun, fashion and food.
So you pay yourself enough for funand fashion and food. That's the only

(49:39):
thing you're going to be taxed on. And if someone comes after you,
there's not much money in your bankaccount, so there's not really much to
come after. The ultra wealthy usedtrusts, right, And the only reason
we're not educated on Like, noone ever told you about a trust,
right, this is the first timehearing about it. Is the the government

(50:00):
gets zero benefit from you knowing aboutthese trusts. And it's worked into the
constitution. The constitution says, basically, this is the one thing that stands
outside of like, government really can'timpact this, can't it can't come after
it. Somebody sues you, somebodyin the government can't say, well they
need to Taylor needs to give thistrust to this other person. So everybody,

(50:22):
anybody could set up trusts and itdoes remove this stuff from the system.
It does become untouchable. And ifsomeone wants to try to look you
up on paper and see, likewhat's this guy worth? Is he worked
going after? Not much can showup. But if you you know,

(50:43):
everyone went crazy about Donald Trump notproviding his tax information, probably because almost
all of his shit is wrapped upin trust and he doesn't pay much in
taxes, and that wasn't going tolook good. So it's like, probably
not, But all the other politiciansdid the same ship like these are the
systems. The Rockefellers, the Rockefellers, the Kennedy's, all these mega families.

(51:07):
They keep everything in trust, andeverything just keeps flowing. The generational
wealth just keeps on flowing and it'suntouchable. So that's one thing that any
individual can do. And you canlearn how to do these trusts on your
own. In fact, if youtry to talk to a lawyer about some
of the things I talk about,they won't know much about it, because
why why it doesn't benefit the barassociation for us to know about this right

(51:32):
And so some lawyers may know somethingabout it, like it's something that's introduced,
but I don't think it's highly concentratedon and so um, and then
there's the whole um taxes like incometax, which is you know, there's
a lot of argument over whether they'reconstitutional or not. If you go to

(51:53):
the IRS website, they're definitely goingto make all sorts of statements and cite
things that make you believe. Butat the end of the day, you're
either a taxpayer you're not. Andthe only thing that makes you the taxpayers
if you admit to being a taxpayer. And anytime, the first time you
filled out at ten forty, youagreed that you're a taxpayer and you sign

(52:15):
that. Now you're in contract,so now the laws do apply to you.
But there's a way which I'm investigatingright now, to basically send them
a letter yea that basically says takeme off the taxpayer list. I'm not
doing that anymore, so I'm lookinginto that. I haven't done that yet,
but there are there are I knowof people who have basically created their

(52:39):
own sovereign nation in a way,and they have their own documents and create
their own passports. There's there's somereally interesting shit out there. If you
go and google this stuff, youwon't go get very far because it's censored,
but I am witnessing a lot ofpeople getting hip to this information.

(53:00):
This is one of the beautiful thingsabout being an American is that the Constitution
was set up in a way tolimit the government from having too much power
over the people. Yea, Andso a lot of that knowledge has been
lost, and a lot of legaljargon and fuckery has happened to trick people

(53:22):
into thinking that, you know,separating them from knowing who they are,
that they're sovereign beings. And soI think that one of the things that
is happening and I'm watching is alot more people are getting hip to these
ideas. They don't know them insideand out yet, but a lot of
people are growing. I've heard morepeople question why they pay taxes in the

(53:44):
last two years than I have myentire life. You're like reassuring, well,
it's kind of it's kind of strange. It's like, okay, so
you can just print you can justbasically double the money supply, Why am
I paying taxes? Like, can'tyou just print off the money you need?
Like this doesn't make any sense.So when they need it, you
can print it off. But whenI need it, I don't have any

(54:06):
access to it. That doesn't makeany sense. So I think that there
is as much as the information istrying to be suppressed, it is still
leaking out and if you and ifyou want to know, you can find
it. And one of the beautifulthings is podcasts because podcasts is one of
the few platforms out there that's trulydecentralized, Like you can't be shut down.

(54:28):
iTunes might take you off, Spotifymight take platforms. There's decentralized platforms
right My favorite is pod Verse.I use pod Verse and it's going to
pull from I'm going to be ableto find shows that aren't on Spotify and
iTunes. And so the more peoplewho are hipped to this and are using
these other platforms, the more informationis going to get out. And so

(54:52):
most people aren't going to ever findout about this because they've got their head
in the sand. But it's morepressure comes on. I mean, watching
some financial analysts that are pretty sharpthat are not crypto guys. These are
not crypto guys that are going youmight want to buy some bitcoin because all
these banks are going into massive amountsof debt right now, so you know

(55:15):
it's predicted that we haven't seen anywhereclose to the worst of what's happening financially,
and so when that happens, howmany more people are going to wake
up? Like how many people wokeup with the whole COVID things like oh
yeah, but the fuck that's notright? Okay? And what else?
And so these things seem to becompounding. And my my impression of all

(55:37):
of it is that these are desperateacts by centralized authority to maintain maintain that
authority. It's desperation. Violence isonly occurs when communication breaks down, and
we've had a lot of that lately, and there's people are definitely feeling on
the edge of things. But asthings decentralize and the centralized authority wants to

(56:02):
maintain control, we have to becareful because they are very dangerous. Like
you said, they have guns,and so you just because they're wrong doesn't
mean they're not dangerous, and sotreat them with the respect that they deserved
in order to keep you safe.I guess, treat them with the respect

(56:23):
that you deserve to keep you safe. Right, And so you know,
play play the game. Well,you know, you get to decide,
like do you want to like goto battle with that. I don't.
I'm just going to hang back,you know, I'm I'm going to create
as much separate I think the smartmove is create as much separation from the

(56:44):
system as possible because any participation,even resistance to it, gives it more
power. And I was like,you know what, you don't even matter.
You're not even real just a groupof people. This isn't a real
thing. There's no real power here, only the power that people give it.
And if I pull back and say, look, I'm not even going
to participate, then that starts todiminish it. And if other people can

(57:06):
hear me say hey, I'm notparticipating, they go, maybe I shouldn't
participate either. It's like, okay, try and do things legally, like
like engage with the arrest directly andsay hey, I'm not I don't think
I should be paying this, andjust see what they say, because otherwise
they're just gonna like make a bunchof shit up. Put things in trust,

(57:27):
you know, learn about these thingsthat allow you to separate yourself legally
as much as possible and really limitthe amount that other people can steal from
you, whether they're part of abig organization like the government or not.
What are some resources that you recommendto learn more about this. There's a

(57:49):
guy, oh man, I don'teven know what these people, some of
them ask not to be mentioned.So like a lot of the resources just
Jesse Elders, he's way more olderabout this, Yeah, way more about
this. We use a lot ofthe same people. There's a there's a
guy named lou Brown that does thetrust stuff. Um, and then if

(58:12):
someone reaches out to me directly,we'll probably Jesse and I would mention the
same tax person, but she askedthat I don't publicly name her, so
I if someone messages me, I'mhappy to create a connection. I like
it. Yeah, I've been doinga deep dive into different podcasts that Jesse's

(58:35):
been on and also all funds andthat whole YouTube channel familiar with him and
his telegram group. Yeah. Yeah, there's also another guy I forget his
name on YouTube that explains some ofthe stuff and it's it's fascinating. Yeah.
I want to mention I'm nowhere closeto being an expert. I'm like

(58:58):
getting into this and it all makesa lot of sense to me. Yeah,
yeah, the same with me,Like I'm I'm just learning about this
stuff, and it just seems like, of course, right, like of
course that this is this exist,that this playing into the system is voluntary.
Yeah, optional, Yeah, Iwas. I was in a meditation
the other day. I'm like,I this is so crazy, how far

(59:21):
up my mind has come, andthat I used to think that these things
were true. Yeah, and Igo, Wow, I'm I'm actually free.
I'm actually like everything I'm doing isa choice. Like it doesn't mean
that someone else isn't going to tryto conduct violence on me, but like
fuck them. Yeah, Like,if you think about it, we should
just be able to exist, right, like you said, as long as

(59:42):
we're not causing harm to anybody,who're damaging anybody's property, Like you should
just be able to roam around likeanimals do, and you and I should
be able to conduct business in anyway we want without some other parties saying
they're gonna take a cut them stopbothering me. Yeah, get out of
it. Like we're doing shit overhere. We're being productive, thank you,
exactly, especially because the work thatwe're doing is helping people become more

(01:00:06):
free, exactly, become more physicallyfree. Yeah, right, all right,
last two questions, What are youmost excited about lately? Um,
I'm most excited about Mmmm. Family. Yeah. Yeah, You're gonna be
getting married soon. Yeah, we'reon children. We're planning to be married

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in Medagine, Colombia. You likeColumbia. I love Colombia. Why?
Yeah? What about Columbia? Man, there's a there's a place down there.
I like to go and drink yaHey. Have you heard of yahy
um? Similar to ayahuasca, samebuying, different leave And it's in my

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experience, in the experience of someother people, it's more intense than ayahuasca,
which some people are like, howis that possible? Wow? But
it is. Um, I reallyenjoyed that down there. I've spent some
time down there. I've probably spenta total of three months in the country,
and I've spent a lot of timemagazine. I've got like really cool

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crew of people down there. Andwhat I can provide for a wedding experience
for my family and friends is goingto cost like a quarter of the price.
And we have access to things thatI couldn't even access in the States.
It would just like I can getrooftop restaurants and shut down and throw

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parties on them and and that kindof thing. It's like, just I
wouldn't even I don't even know howmuch I would cost here. So I'm
like, okay, I give mymy friends and family a cult everyone's looking
for an excuse to go to magazine, right, like a cultural experience and
we get to hang out. Everythingis is is cheap enough to where we
can just go all out and havea great time and the weather's always nice

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and uh yeah, it's it's strangelyenough feel at home there. I think
part of it is the the therebellious nature of the region might be part
of it. Who knows. Soundsgood to me? All right, last
question, what does thriving mean toyou? Ah? Yeah, thriving is

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um you know, you got survivingand you got thriving, and in survival,
there's the action is taken from aplace of desperation. When you're thriving,
it's coming from a place of inspiration. So inspired action, like continuous
and regular inspired action, is thriving. Love it. My purpose is to

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make thriving standard because I feel exactlyhow you said that surviving is the current
standard for a lot of people justgoing along with the narrative on autopilot.
So thank you for coming on theshow and helping me fulfill my purpose.
Having on this is great boom tofreedom. Read them live the Captain's lifestyle, Peace,