168: How to Identify (and Fix) The Root of Your Pain with Aleks Rybchinskiy

Taylor interviews Aleks Rybchinskiy, a holistic health practitioner, about his
health journey and approach to helping clients with various health issues. They discuss Aleks's childhood, his near-death experience, his work with Paul Chek, and his business, Primal Fusion.

Aleks emphasizes the importance of addressing emotional issues and how they can impact physical
health. He also shares tips for improving overall health, such as drinking clean water, getting enough
sleep, and cutting out processed foods. Additionally, Aleks talks about bridging the gap between
dentists and practitioners to maximize potential and achieve faster results.

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Timestamps:

• Almost Drowning and Tracheotomy [00:00:01]
• Introduction and Taking Ketones [00:00:42]
• Childhood and Struggles with Weight [00:04:27]
• Childhood Eating Habits [00:05:52]
• Almost Dying [00:08:01]
• Weight Loss and Social Development [00:09:42]
• Childhood friendships [00:10:51]
• Meeting Paul Chek [00:12:37]
• Getting his body back in shape [00:14:53]
• Teeth and Body Health [00:15:42]
• Sports Injuries [00:16:29]
• Meeting Paul Check [00:17:54]
• Starting a Business [00:20:11]
• Moving to Austin and Getting Married [00:21:52]
• Primal Fusion Holistic Health Coaching [00:22:59]
• Practitioner Relationship [00:25:05]
• Physiological Limitations [00:26:47]
• Posture and Health [00:28:49]
• Proper Breathing Techniques [00:29:53]
• Organ Dysfunction [00:31:29]
• Proper Rib Angle [00:33:39]
• Posture and Breathing Exercise [00:35:17]
• Impact of Jaw on Posture [00:36:53]
• Recurring Injuries [00:40:08]
• Recurring injuries and common referrals [00:40:14]
• Four-hour assessment [00:41:12]
• Testing for potential injuries [00:42:42]
• Assessment Process [00:46:01]
• Posture and Trauma [00:46:48]
• Breathing and Movement Patterns [00:48:17]
• The Importance of Proper Breathing [00:49:40]
• Compounding Effects of Poor Health Habits [00:50:29]
• Realizing the Benefits of Healthy Habits [00:52:56]
• Drinking Habits [00:54:58]
• Alcohol Alternatives [00:56:52]
• Healthy Habits [00:59:09]
• Clean Water, Sleep, and Pooping [00:59:35]
• Bridging the Gap Between Practitioners [01:03:16]
• Addressing Mouth Issues [01:04:11]
• Dr. Felix Liao [01:04:52]
• Thrive [01:06:55]
• Making Thriving Standard [01:08:41]

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
How did you almost die? Whatwas it? I had laryngitis and then
I couldn't breathe, and then mymom was up all night, so the
nurses came in and gave me sleepingpills so my mom can get some rest.
And then I suffocated in the middleof the night, and then I
didn't have it. I couldn't.Yeah, I was They found my mom
found me blue, and then shecalled the nurse and they wheeled me away
and they sent my mom home becausewhen you do r surgery, the mom
now gets at home. Cool.So we are here at does this place

(00:45):
have a name? Ony Onky?All right? We are here with Alex
Rubchinsky at It's a beautiful property.This place is amazing. I like the
marshmallow type of ceilings. Uh.I knew we were driving up to a
check practitioner when we saw stacks ofrocks everywhere. I was like, this

(01:07):
is definitely the right place. Sowe're going to take these shots. And
the first thing that I want todive into is your health journey, like
wherever I'm sure you didn't start off, you know, just this optimized human,
right, So that's that's where we'regoing to start on after we we
cheers in and take a shot atthese keytones. I always checking the ingredients.

(01:34):
Yeah, always got a double check. It's look good to you.
Yeah, water, monk fruit.I don't know what keytones. That's the
ketone is Yeah, that's that's thekeytones, Petrick acid, Yeah, basic
vitamin scene Yeah yeah, okay,Jake sure, and then cheers down the

(02:00):
match. So on about twenty minutes, you should notice a heightened just like
clarity, is what I noticed fromhim. So all right, let's be
cool. Yeah, let's let's diveinto your background. Alex Riptchinski. Talk

(02:21):
to us about your transition from babyboy to grown man that we see today.
Baby boy born in Ukraine yea,and moved to the United States around
when I was four or four anda half. Live in Buffalo Grove pretty
much my whole life twenty four years. And then it met my beautiful wife,
Sarah, who's like two hundred feetaway from me at all times pretty

(02:45):
much. But she's here right nowin spirit. Oh yeah, yeah,
she's she's probably listening a little bitor she's not a called one of the
two. But I got a backtrack, obviously asked me baby boy, so
um, I almost drown when Iwas one, almost died when I died
when I was three, um,and they had to give me a tracheotomy

(03:07):
revived me. So that didn't makesense until I was later later in my
life as to why things make differentaccesses to different spirit points um more accessible.
And then Soviet Union collapse and myparents were like, we're gonna get
out of here. So we camehere as refugees. What year ninety two

(03:30):
and uh so pretty much lived mylife here. My parents thought that you
know, the food that was there, because they had food mostly from farms,
and you know, your neighbor wouldslaughter a pig and then you eat
pig like you knew what that pigeight. And then we moved here and
I was like rail thin, youknow, I was like skin and bones
and you know, some little bitof meat on me. And so,

(03:53):
as you know, my parents wereworking NonStop as immigrants, trying to you
know, put food on the tableand make sure we have a house to
live in and things of those immigrantlifestyles. I was eating things that were
not always optimal. You know.My bomb would always cook at home,
and like once a week we wouldget hamburgers which I'm sure my parents mind

(04:15):
not knowing the history of commercial fastfood. I'm sure, as I say,
you'll know exactly which one I'm talkingabout. But it was a we
would get big Mac. I'll geta big Mac, supersize fries, and
a triple thick shake, sometimes twobig Macs, And that was like my
treat of like, Okay, you'regonna get bread and meat and vegetables and
potatoes and milk spun up into ashake. You know. They didn't know.

(04:40):
I didn't know. And by thetime I was ten years old,
away like one hundred and eighty poundsand I was like under five feet tall,
and it was my dad weighed aboutone hundred and forty pounds and he's
five seven and a half and uh, you know. So then I would
experience people making fun of me formy weight the way I looked, and
it didn't make sense to me becauseI speak Russian, so my brain things

(05:02):
get translated differently, and Sarah wasthe running joke. Is Sarah's my translator.
So when when I say something,sometimes it comes off very blunt,
but it's honest, it's true.And I've been learning for since I've met
her. Pretty much how to saythings differently, especially with kids. You
can't say certain things to kids directlybecause it doesn't make sense or whatever.
And so back to the ten yearsold, you know, people would make

(05:26):
fun of me and uh, youknow not maybe not want to play with
me, and uh, you knowfor for you know, simple thing like
the way I look, And itnever made sense to me, like why
why wouln't you want to play withme? I'm pretty cool, like I
like I play video games like you, and I like play sports like you.
And I was very active. Iwould take my bike out because my
parents would be working pretty much allday, so I found out the term
latchkey kid from Sarah. Uh.They would be gone all day and I

(05:51):
would go at home. I wouldwalk my get up, make myself a
toaster, struddle, watch monsters,inc. Walk myself to school, come
home from school, let the dogout, you know, maybe feed the
dog, play with the dog,and then get on my bike. And
then it'd be gone for until myparents got home and I got to had
all the time to me to doall those things. And when people didn't

(06:12):
want to play, I'd have likeone kid that I'd play with and we'd
or another one, and we'd rideour bucks all day. So I was
active, but I was still overweightbecause when I'd get my lunch from home,
it was healthy, it was homecooked. But then I'd go to
school and I'd see pizzas and otherkids are eating fruit roll ups and fries,
and you know, they would dabtheir pizzas with the napkins, and

(06:35):
I'm like, why, that's thegood stuff. You know, that's the
good flavor. And I would eat. I'm like, you've done with that.
I'd eat their food and my foodand other people's food. When they
were done, I was like,it didn't make sense to me. And
this little detail didn't hit me untillater in life. So, oh,
my grandpa came with us from Ukraine, and my grandfather on my mom's side
and my grandmother on my dad's side. Oh yeah, my grandmother my dad's

(06:58):
side, So my dad's mom andmy mom's ad. We were sitting there
and I was eating slow, andhe goes the first person to finish his
eating can go back to work andmake more money for the family. And
ever since then, I like inhaledall my food and it never hit me
until probably years ago. I waslike, oh, at least you know,
that thought is still rolling around inmy brain. So I had to,
like, I'm working on constantly makingsure that are you full? Do

(07:21):
you it's okay that we put thisfood away, And so instead of having
it thrown away, I put itin a tupe ofware and I have it
later, so that way I don'tsit there and eat till I'm sick,
you know. And uh So,when I got out of middle school started
going to a high school, myparents back to the dying thing, my

(07:42):
parents were very like sheltered over mebecause you know, seeing your kid lifeless
and come out from the operation roomwith a tube in your throat, Like
you went in fine, you cameout not fine. You know, well
I came in blew because the doctorsgave me sleeping pills things. You know.
People, people have a really interestingperspective on the medical system here,
like you can go and like watchsomeone surgery and you can like be in

(08:03):
the room. When in Ukraine,when you get delivered, the father is
sent home like out of the hospitaland the mom after the delivery only gets
to see the baby for feeding time, no holding. And and here I
have you know, a seven yearold now and she never left my side.
Blood work. I'm with you.You know, I'm coming with you.

(08:24):
You know you got a pricker.Oh, Oh, she's gonna cry.
I'm like, that's fine. I'drather see what's happening. And so
when, yeah, when I died, they were they trying to keep me
from any kind of trauma at thatpoint, because I can imagine now what
it feels like to see that happenand then go, no, how did
you almost die? What was it? I had laryngitis and then I couldn't

(08:48):
breathe, and then my mom wasup all night, so the nurses came
in and gave me sleeping pills somy mom can get some rest. And
then I suffocated in the middle ofthe night, and then I didn't have
it. I couldn't. Yeah,I was they've found My mom found me
blue, and then she called thenurse and they wheeled me away and they
sent my mom home because when youdo r surgery, the mom now gets
at home. And we would neverhave found out if my grandma didn't work
at that hospital and did some diggingto find out actually what happened, because

(09:11):
you know, the kid went inwith laryngitis inflammation in his throat and then
came out with a tube sounded likea robot with a tracheotomy, and like
tied up the tubes and they're likewhat happened? And so moving back to
high school, I asked, canI played some football? And they're like,
no, like I'm doing it.So I signed up for football and
they were like, oh great.So then I became like a three three

(09:35):
sport athlete and I played football,I wrestled, and then I played volleyball
and interesting combo. I know right. I had fun doing all of them.
And when I signed up for football, it was the summer training camps.
The summer, I forget what it'scalled when you're trained in the summer
before the season. I ended uplosing like forty pounds and gaining in getting

(10:01):
taller. And then I noticed thepeople that went to me with the same
high school. I noticed that theywere nicer to me. And I don't
know if there's a transition between youknow, middle school and high school,
but I did notice it, andso I took note of it because my
brain sees things very rationally, likeokay, well you were this way,
now you're this way and then sothen I'm all right. So then as

(10:22):
wrestling season goes on, you know, by the senior year, I'm back
up to one hundred and ninety pounds, but five like my size now.
And then there'd be like off seasonswhere I'd gained weight and I noticed people
wouldn't treat me the same. Andthen I'd lean up for wrestling after wrestling,
and people treated me different, andI'm like, what is happening?
So that was the beginning of mysocial development of how people interacted with me.

(10:46):
And at the time, you didn'tcorrelate it to the weight I had
had a I had a feeling,and but I couldn't There's no way to
prove it. I was not likeI never asked anyone like, hey,
do you have friends with me becauseI'm fat? You know, straight up
yeah? And uh. And butwhat I noticed is I had friends in

(11:07):
all different groups, and I foundthe people that had interesting conversations who I'd
gravitate towards. So I'd sit withpeople who are like, you know,
white makeup on their face and blackeyeshadow and and all black, and then
and then some friends with some cheerleaders, and then sit at the jock table
every now and then, and thenhang out with some some nerds that you

(11:28):
know are on their computers or someor you know, talking about video games.
I'm like, I love all ofthat, and whoever had the best
conversations is who I'd sit by,and I got I did know that I
didn't want to talk about shallow stuff. Yeah, and that's good at that
age. That's that's awesome. YeahI didn't know then, right, but
yeah, on reflection, yeah,it makes it's it's a it's pretty neat

(11:52):
to know that that started early versuslike people probably listening to podcasts now trying
to get depth out of life.And so then I got I got into
trouble with some police when I wasseventeen, and then to stay out of
trouble, I started exercising after highschool. And then there was a big
once again my parents were questioning whetherI was actually exercising because I would go

(12:16):
from work too. I was abouncer on the weekends. And then so
after work, I get off atlike nine o'clock, ten o'clock, go
to the gym, and they go, you're not exercising. Six months later
do they go, oh, yeah, he's definitely exercising, and that never
really stopped until and then I playedsome of my professional football after high school,

(12:37):
and then I kept getting bigger.I was like two hundred and forty
pounds shredded, and then I gotinjured. I kept there's always injuries in
my life, and I got injured, and then I was at two forty
not shredded. But I noticed.That's when I met Paul check and I
got some advice from Paul in oneof his courses. It's just like a
famous amount of famous. It's highlightingto me and all the people around me

(13:01):
remember that story because everyone would ask, you know, simple questions to Paul,
because Paul tends to rant, youknow, for a long time,
which is wonderful because that's where allinformation and the juices, you know.
And uh, everyone was asking,so, what's the best, you know,
certain exercise and Paul would entertain it, you know, and then what's
what's the best diet? And Paulwould entertain it. And I remember going
like, well, I need toask him a good question. I go,

(13:22):
Paul, how can I best tohelp myself? And it was like
Moses parting the room and everyone disappeared, and then Paul went right up to
my face and he goes, getthis and the nuts off your desk.
How do you know you could drinkraw milk? You look, you look
at yourself. You can't drink rawmilk and get gluten and you really everyone
was so uncomfortable. But I'm overhere taking notes, you know, I'm

(13:43):
like, okay, Yeah, that'sthat's here. That's going okay. By
the time I went to the nextclass four months later, he didn't recognize
me anymore. So I've had allthese little journeys of injuries and these kind
of interactions, and then as thelevels go up, you learn about teeth
and I m S four, youlearn about how the jaw impacts the rest

(14:03):
of the body. And so Ihad this intuitive thing for since I stopped
training after I was playing football,and my last season that I played,
this guy felt and I could seehis whole face mask in my hand.
And I was a neurosomatic therapist.I was doing manual therapy. I had
my own business. I was alreadycoaching people since I was nineteen years old.
And he fell on my hands andthere was this moment in mid game,
I go, what am I doing? I need these and so from

(14:26):
after that season, I quit football, and I also stopped exercising as hard
as I did, because in throughthrough coaching with Paul and his course,
as I realized that there's a lotof resentment and anger towards my dad that
he didn't deserve, you know,as a child, I needed that.

(14:48):
And as seasons of life comes aroundand I have my own child, I
go, wow, I'm hearing thesame thing that my kids said, saying
to me that I'm sad that Iwas upset at my dad for except I
Paul, I can pause and speakfrom a different experience and go, this
doesn't make me love you less.I still stalk and talk and play games
and spend tons of time and putother things aside to make sure that that's

(15:11):
not how they feel, and theyknow I care about them, and so
I also se yes, after thatmoment, I got my body back in
shape, and I stopped exercising forabout eight years, and I only recently
started up as my seventh week backof consistent training since I got my teeth
put back together and I can actuallybite my teeth or a mess I can
chew you some pictures later, theywere all messed up. But the body,
the way the teeth interdigitate or coupletogether, they could either make you

(15:35):
stronger or wear your teeth down.Impact your breathing turn off. Like a
hydraulic press, if has too muchpressure, du it turns itself off and
the depressurizes itself so it doesn't breakthe press. And so a lot of
people like grip strength issues and theywear wraps and things like that. That's
a that's a teeth issue for themost part. And so after the last

(16:00):
two years, I got him offin November and so I go, okay,
it's about time my teeth because theyfelt like piano keys you take the
braces off, and they were wiggily. Oh shit, yeah, so everything
every time those teeth wiggle, mywhole body felt like it was falling apart.
So after about yeah, three fourmonths, after getting that out,
three months, because it's November,it's about it's April now, so I've
been yeah, it's over a monthnow, Oh my other things time.

(16:25):
And sure enough my body feels greatand I can chew, I could sleep
better, I don't snore anymore.After getting all those things done, and
I still have more to go.That's the thing. There's so much more
to go. So that's kind ofbeen the development of, you know,
seeing how people treat me, buildingmyself up, getting injured, rebuilding myself
getting injured, rebuilding myself getting injured, and you know, thinking that I

(16:48):
wanted to play the NFL, andthen getting injured. Every time I tried
to go to the next league orlike a Rena league, I would get
injured. I tore a ligaments tomy ankle, you know, and then
I'd go back to training. Andthen some friends were like, hey,
let's play volleyball, and it's allthat's fun, and then it became competitive
U And then I did a jumpjump a vert test at at a volleyball

(17:10):
tournament on the third day and Ihit a forty two in vert and I
didn't think I jumped high, andI knew I jumped high, but I
didn't know like numbers, why numbers, why as if it was high or
not. And so all the mystatistics were high that fit like professional athletes.
But every time I try to compete, it brought me back down.
So talking to my soul enough,I go, you can have you can

(17:32):
you need to be able to belike that without actually competing and making money
because of the work is interpersonal.The work is helping people out and making
sure they can get back on theirfeet and not be injured, and U
live a good life that's filling andpurposeful. But that's kind of from baby
to where I am now? Loveit? Love it? How did you
meet Paul? So? After personaltraining school, I went to work for

(17:59):
lifetime and there was a guy stayingnext to me, and I was I
understood the materials so well, butI had questions. And there's this guy
sitting next to me, and Imade fun of his last name, and
I go, who wouldn't be tragicif this is your last name? He
goes, this is my last name. And I felt so awkward. And
then ever since then he would begunning for me to prove me wrong somehow
and like put me my place.And so he was doing something over a

(18:22):
foam roller that I didn't agree with, and he goes, well, if
my body moves in this direction,why can't they do it? I go,
where'd you learn this from? Andhe gave me two names, Charles
Polloquin, and he gave me Olympiclifting nutritional supplements and I'm like, already
did that. A I worked atGNC. I have a five hundred pounds
squat and deadlift and almost a fourhundred pound bench. I was like,

(18:45):
okay, I did that. ButI'm like, but then, who's Paul
Check? And he goes, well, he does the whole thing he does
holistic, emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual, and go, okay,
well that covers two other things thatI don't know much about. And
so I went and about any Inever looked him up about all about all
the introductory courses. Wow, Andthe first time I put a DVD in,

(19:08):
all the questions that I had atthat time were filled in within the
first two hours of watching his stuff, and obviously maybe more have more questions
after that, Well, well thisis true, then this, what's this?
Then what's this? And then andthen so, but then he answered
those things, and then so Ihad to sit with all those things.
And then I would go back tolifetime, and I became a menace and
go why are you doing that?Well, why are you doing that?

(19:30):
But that kinteracts that, and everyone'slike, leave me alone. And then
so, but then when they werein a pinch, they'd come and ask
me some questions, but then afterthe questions we're done. They're like all
right, kind of like how Iwas treated when I was younger. So
there's all these cyclical patterns that areoccurring. But that's how I'm at Paul
through a random conversation, through someonecheck in my attitude and then me asking

(19:51):
where did you learn this information?Wow? Yeah, I imagine that a
check practitioner doesn't fit in very wellat at Lifetime. Yeah, so what
was the journey from then? Iimagined shortly after you left Lifetime Fitness and
then from then? So I gotfired from Lifetime for not listening to what
they were telling me to do.Sounds accurate? Yeah, And uh so

(20:12):
I've I've been secretly plotting on leavingfor a while, looking up business locations,
looking up equipments, looking up howto start a business, all these
things. The day I got fired, I walked over to this person I
knew who was a chiropractice, andI go, do you know any buildings
around here? She sent me tothis management company that was right behind Lifetime,

(20:36):
and so I would talk to her. The first building she brought me
into was a guy that I've beenfriendly with for three years and like cordial
and we're always saying hi to eachother and you know, talking about lifting
together. And I'm looking at him, what are you doing here? He
goes, what are you doing here? I'm like, I'm looking from a
building. I'm looking for a building. Goes, I owned this building,
and I go, Okay, we'regood. And then she and then the
managers like can we go somewhere elseand I'll show you other buildings. I'm

(20:57):
like, I'm good. And that'show I started the business. In that
day, I signed a lease andthen I went on and paid for a
lawyer to start my LLC. Andthen I sat with the guy that introduced
me to Paul Check and he grilledme questions on like what kind of business?
So I want to start? What'sthe logo? It's the branding,
And I came up with Fusion HealthChicago, and because it blended the East
and the West together, so refusinghealth together. And I'm in Chicago,

(21:19):
so that's what it is. Andso then that's how it all started.
And I worked there for in Chicagountil I moved here. Yeah, trial
by lots of trial by fires andpainful experiences and my understanding about business was
do really good work, solve people'sproblems, and they will pay you money

(21:41):
for it. Imagine that. Imaginethat, Imagine that. So when did
you move down here? Like,how long were you in Chicago? Twenty
four years? I met Sarah actuallyat HLC three in California. Yeah,
at Paul's house. No, atPaul's course, Okay, And then we
hit it off. We became goodfriends. And then Sarah got a divorce,

(22:07):
and then I came down here forpaleo effects and uh she tells me
a month later that she's pregnant.And then three months later I moved down
here and then I've been here eversince. And here we are, and
here we are, and here weare. In October twenty twenty, we
got married through all the chaos,and we had to reschedule our wedding several
times, and it was the secondreschedule, like we're not moving. The

(22:30):
third one, whoever's communists coming?And then yeah, everyone showed up,
open everything, Everyone had a greattime. No one got sick and go
figure, but yeah we were wewere like we're gonna go do what we
want to do. And uh yeah, So I've lived here almost eat going
on nine years, I think twentyfifteen I moved down here. It seems

(22:51):
like the right move. So let'slet's let's talk about Primo Fusion and all
the things that you guys do becauseit's you guys do a lot? Do
you a lot? Okay? SoPrimo Fusion coalistic health coaching company that integrates
mental, emotional, and spiritual bodieswith high level glinical assessments and scientific programming.

(23:15):
What does that mean? The easiestway to describe it is, if
someone has a problem that they can'tfix, we want to first figure out
where it's coming from. So mostpeople when they get injured or hurt,
and the metaphor, let's say,is they have a house and their floors

(23:36):
are flooded, they want to cleanup the floors as fast as possible,
but no one ever looks up tosee if the roof is leaking. So
our assessments are four hours long,sometimes more depending on what we need to
do. A paper We have tonsof paperwork that people fill out so we
can get an idea of what isthe biggest problem that people experience, and

(23:59):
then we address the biggest problems inthe room and whether it be through manual
therapy, whether it be through movement, getting getting reintegration of certain tissues a
lot like some people have miswiring intheir muscles. You know, their hamstrings
are firing too soon instead of theirglutes, and then you rewire the glutes
to fire before the hamstrings, andthen and then their backstops starting. And

(24:21):
it's something sometimes so simple like that. But then what's causing the glutes to
stop firing? And then you gottakeep Oh, what's the food? Okay,
well we gotta look at food.And then so when we have this
broad net that we cast and figureout how to how to lower the stresses
on all the physiological responses in someone'sbody, their body has a chance to
recover itself. And then anything thatwe don't do, like the teeth stuff,
I refer them out to certain practitioners, and I also monitor what they're

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doing, and I'm constantly openly communicatingwith what other people are doing to make
sure that they're getting the proper carebecause most people, I don't know how
many people do or don't think aboutthis when referrals, but I feel at
my referrals weigh on me based onmy recommendation to make sure that they get
what they need from someone. Soif I send someone to uh, you

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know, Ferrari dealership, you're gonnaget a Ferrari. But then they sell
them a Honda for the same priceas a Ferrari. That's on me because
I didn't I didn't go check.I didn't check it for the Ferrari dealership
had Ferrari's there. So I trymy best to develop as best of a
relationship with different practitioners that are referout to, so that way we can
work with the person to get thembetter and then depend on depending on what

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they need, is is what weend up going through. UM and sometimes
people need heavy manual therapy. Sometimespeople need heavy coaching. Sometimes UM we
need to talk about what's happening intheir childhood and it being okay or not
okay or how how do we howdo we work through that? And do
they need a therapist? Do theyneed a certain recommendation? Do they do
they move right? Do they breatheright? Do they sleep right? Do

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they poop right? You know whatis what is the most optimal thing?
And if they if they're not sleepingunless they their sleep gets off, what
stop in there from sleeping instead ofgiving them aids to sleep, going,
why aren't you sleeping in the firstplace, because you should be able to
close your eyes be tired by theend of the day. So it could
be like, oh, is that'sa Cicadian rhythm thing? While are they
watching a screen up until it's twelveo'clock and they go, I can't sleep

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and they have blasted with blue lightand you go, you're on the other
orange light on your phone. Getsome blue blockers and they go, oh,
sleep so much better. Well yougo figure you know, But that's
that's those simple things that people overlooka lot of times is if they're single
modality, they tend to go,Okay, well this is what I'm good
at and this is what I'm astick to, and then they kind of
dabble versus we we kind of getoverboard on a lot of different modalities because

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I'm curious to know why things howand things work. So that's what we
end up doing. What are someof the main issues that people come to
do with, Um, they havea client right now without an organ oh
wow, with organs, So wehave to figure out how they what how
do we clear their system out?So they can eliminate properly, how they
can sleep properly. And clients thatcouldn't walk very well, like I'd have

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to pick them up and move themthrough the threshold of my house and a
step it's probably like three four inchestall. But then this is a common
occurrence, and now they're moving aroundand deadlifting and squatting and cold tubbing,
overcoming whatever limitations ahead in their mind. People have injuries that they can't figure
out. They've been going to physicaltherapists, like knee injuries, ankle injuries,

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shoulder injuries, elimination issues. Peoplewho have women who don't menstrate or
can get pregnant, and you lookat their physiology and you go, nothing's
nothing that you're doing is going tosupport life going there because your pelvis is
so cranked, it's compressing all yourspinal your spinal cords. There's no innovation
going to your organ down there andthen blood flow. And then so once

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we restore their their physiology to theirto the optimal posture, which most people
think posture is like a straight line, but posture is fifteen degree curvatures,
the seventeen and I have degree couragesthrough the through the spine, through the
cervical spine, through the rassic spine, through the lumbar spine, and those
were designed by osteopaths because when theyalign the spine in those angles, those

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are the frame and where the veins, arteries, and nerves come out of.
That's the hole that's the biggest opening. And so if you have nerve
innervations and blood supply, there's agood chance that you're going to survive better.
So that when people when I sayposture, that's what I mean.
Proper curvatures that can be stabilized bythe internal unit, the stabilizing muscles,

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and then the outside muscles. Asthey move, they don't interfere with those
openings, and they can return backto those openings. So when they sleep,
some people don't have they have aflattened spine even when they sleep.
But when I lay down, youcan still feel the curvature because the muscles
are doing or they're supposed to do, on a almost like a background noise.
What are some of the common problemsthat come from poor posture that people

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might not even be aware that areattributed to poor posture, like tightness and
their hamstring. They could have hamstringinjuries, they have poor digestion, They
can't breathe right because if you're sittingin your and your diaphragm is being collapsed.
The diaphragm in the way it worksis it's like an umbrella. The
more you pull the umbrella down andthen the fan opens. And so if

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you collapse the rib cage and therib cage can't move, your diaphragm can't
work, which means there's the othermechanism has to work, which has to
lift your rib cage off of yourbody, which then allows the lung to
inflate. So that's a more activesystem, but that is being used by
your scalings, your traps, yourpeck miners, your sternal cloud of mastery.
Lifting the rib cage over and overover twenty thousand times a day.

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It's exhausting on muscles that probably areno bigger than my thumb versus your diaphragm,
which is this huge muscle that allhad with this huge central tendon that
one inhale opens and sucks air throughyour into your body. So how do
we breathe properly if we put ourhands on our belly and we put our
hands on our chest so if youtake a deep breath in I'm not going

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to breathe, So that way peopledon't know. If you take a deep
breath and you feel your upper handmove, which is your chest hand,
that means you're breathing from your chestif your lower hand isn't moving. If
you take a deep breath and yourlower hand moves first, and then let's
say your lower hand moves in yourupper hand doesn't, that's a passive breath.
And we're not talking about taking likea whim hof or like a full

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meditation breath like we're sitting here idly. But if you take a full breath,
you should have full inhalation of yourbelly then in your chest. Then
you can even lift the shoulder andget it all up while keeping your belly
expanded. But at the end,a lot of people draw their bellies in
to take that breath, which meansthey don't really breathe in more air.
They exchange the pressures. So theidea is to drop the diaphramp to load

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the pressure into your thoracic cavity,into your abdominal cavity, and then when
you flex your abs over it ordraw your belly button in it creates this
lifting mechanism on your spine, whichkeeps your spine safe, which is why
I don't lift with belts, andif if I did, it was a
powerlifter, it wouldn't be till nine. But because it creates an inverted breathing

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pattern when you could be really strong, you know, in the gym.
But what it teaches you is theopposite of what we talk about. Because
the mechanism that we're talking about drawingin your transverse subdominants and how you activate
that through a belt. The beltis the transverse subdominus. So you push
your belly against the breath or againstthe belt, So you have to actually

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push out when you breathe in versuslet the belly open and then draw in,
which creates all that tension. Andso the ideal regular breath as you're
sitting here, you know behind adesk, is chest doesn't move belly in.
And then also another little extra tipis making sure people exhale all the

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way so when they're sitting here andmaking sure that belly draws in. And
if people feel abdominal scumfort, there'san organ dysfunction, so something in your
organ system is not happy because they'recalled viscera because they're viscous oil is viscous
oil is in the car in thepistons, so the piston doesn't fly through

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the through the cylinder head. Ithink that's that's the right thing. Yeah,
car terms anyway, Yeah, itstops that movement because viscous fluid does
not like to be compressed, andso that way it slows the mechanism down,
the speed down, which allows themto move properly on both ends.
And since organs are viscous tissues,they don't like to be compressed, so

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when you compress them, they pushagainst So when you draw in and they're
not moving or allowing that compression becausethey're either inflamed, they're going to create
pain responses. So the best wayto know if you are your organs are
in dysfunction, you can even putyour hands on your knees, fully exhale,
and then try to suck your bellyin like you see a lot of

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yogis do. And some people willfeel the scum for like all over the
place. First it's here, thenit's then, then it's on the right
side, then it's low, thenit's high, then it's like under the
rib cage, and then those aregoing to be where the organs are not
feeling the best um. So Ithink I think I cover that right.
The passive belly in if you're goingto take a full breath, belly until
it can't expand anymore, and thenalso then chest and then a little extra

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detail, don't let the rib cagecollapse should be at about a ninety degree
angle. So as you take adeep breathin a lot of people that breathe
through their belly, there as theycall it the sternal costal angle from your
sternum, your sternum to your costal, your ribs, it collapses, which
means that you're not one on theinhale, So the belly comes out,

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but the rib cage collapses. Thosebeing able to maintain that a rib angle
or slightly expand and you're gonna noticeyou can't breathe out or breathe in.
As far you know a lot ofa lot of good belly breathers that you
see that when they breathe in,the rib cage collapses. So it's do
you have that rib stability while youinhale, and then when you take that

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full breath, you're gonna notice Ican't breathe as far as they used to.
And then breathe through your chest andthen through your neck, and then
you can fully let an exhale andthen follow your exhale down from your belly,
and then draw the belly in.And you're gonna notice right in the
opposite sides of your hip bones,like where or the A size. But

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if you don't know, right aroundthose bony structures on your hips right inside,
you're gonna feel as you exhale,they're gonna start to burn a little
bit. And that's your TVA activating. That's a good sign. Say that
one more time. So the hipbones. When people see their hip bones
right right where their bleak angles are, they're gonna see these little bones stick
out, or you can they canfeel them about an inch in and an

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inch down. As you exhale andyou draw that belly in and you draw
it hard, and you squeeze youranus up and you draw hard, you
might notice that they start to burn. And if so, someone without a
properly developed transverse abdominus, that's youknow, it's contracting. After a while,
it'll it'll stop spasmy Um, sothat's how you take a proper breath.

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And then there's more to it.But I feel like we're gonna what
other tips do you have for properposture aside from breathing mechanics. UM,
I like, I like. Um, here's here's a fun one that actually
I'm going to share with you first. I've been playing with this. So
you put your heels up against thewall or a little bit off the wall,
depending on you know, if youlift or not. You may have

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a bigger but standing and you putyour hand under your back and you slide
your whole palm behind your back aroundthe thickest part is your fenr eminence.
You slide that through the thickest part, and you see if you can touch
your back or your upper back,your butt and your head on the wall
without straining, and if you can'tdo what we did right now, which

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is put it there and then drawyour TVA in and you're gonna notice that
it's going to straighten you up.And if it does, that means your
TVA you're trans versus dominance is notintegrated into your breathing pattern and into your
movements, and it's collapse and you'reusing your ligament a system to hold you
up like a crane almost like kindof holds you up through through the through
the legamented system, which also takesload and it does get stronger over time,

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but when you rely on it,that's how people get hurt and still
bony structures move and that's how theydevelop injuries. They could have strong ligaments
and then when they live too muchor in the wrong direction and the joint
loses its rotational ability to stabilize orit's instantaneous access of rotation being stabilized,
then you get injured, like withinmoments. So that's a good way to

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get in the posture. And alsosome people have um there's different ways,
there's different there's different um observations,different postures. A lot of people have
forward head, but they also canhave an elevated chest, so that usually
means that they have a flat spinein their in their neck, not extra
curved, but flattened. So thereare different things they need to happen.

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So if you someone notices like they'relike a confident posture, like their chest
their chest is way up and you'regoing to notice their their chin is closer
to their sternum, and that usuallymeans that their spine is straighten, which
is usually a jaw issue because asyou maybe you start off with this kypotic
posture, your head is forward,and then you do all the exercises,
you know, the leaning against thewall or stretching your soapboxypital, stretching your

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neck, bringing you back, butthen you can't breathe because you're maxillis,
your mandibilis in your airway, soyou have to compensate to open your air
way up. So now you havethis confident posture, but it's not a
relaxed posture. And you could eventry People can try this at home where
if you were to bring your headback retraction and stick your jaw forward.

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Now, breathe through your nose.A lot of people might be able to
breath through the nose. Now,when once they get a good solid feeling,
now bite again, they may noticeit's going to impact their airway.
Yeah, so they need a goodaway doctor like doctor Felix Leo six foot
tiger three footage is a good introductionto this whole world. It spells it

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out very simply, gives you studies, shows his progress with his patients.
It's a wonderful easy read to knowhow the jaw can impact your airway.
And so for a lot of peoplethat are working with people for a head
posture, let's say they don't havean airway or a jay issue. You
can fix that super easily, butthen lessen them on your head's back to

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where it's supposed to be. Butpeople that have reoccurring problems, there's something
else going on. It's usually it'seither an airway or an atlas, or
a cranium misalignment or an organ dysfunctionthat every time they get in a good
posture, they get compression on theirorgans. Oh you go back down because
they're not changing their habits around whatthey're eating because they don't want to get
rid of it, or they're notdrinking enough water in their bodies dry and

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it doesn't doesn't eliminate properly, andthen so it basically folds them in on
themselves and then hardens them up.Let's do that exercise after we're gen recording.
I think that'd be good to insertinto the video. There are so
many things that can be the causeof whatever people's issues are. What's the

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problem with going to most doctors tofix these things. And I'm talking traditional
Western medicine doctors because from my experience, I'll just prescribe you some pills and
just try to cover it up.But obviously that persists, and we just
barely scratched the surface of what theseissues could be caused by posture breathing.

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So what are some what are someof the most common issues that people come
to with? I think I askedthat already, But the things that you
mentioned, those can't be the mostcommon, like the person who had trouble
like stepping over the step, sothey're not the most common. Yeah,
what are the most common that peoplecome to you with? Reoccurring injuries?

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Okay, okay? And basically thewith athletes or general population, reoccurring injuries
with athletes that they can't get tothey can't get over once they get to
a certain area, something breaks,something breaks, and then they try again
and it breaks or they get tweaked, and it's something It creates hesitation in

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going full out for the most part. Also, it's um and the conversation
sends to be whenever someone hears thatknows about me and they they're talking to
someone and then someone's complaining about thesame thing that's been happening that they can't
treat their like on ghostiaks. That'slike the commonest, most common way that
people get on the phone with meand go, oh, I've been complaining

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about it and someone told me tocome see you, and they said you'd
be able to fix it. Butthe back of the prescription bottle all the
symptoms. Those are those simple It'sa simple way to go if you have
a high blood pressure and you know, but you know, for all intents
and purposes, I don't treat anyof that stuff, but I, you
know, work on the whole personand then if they go way great,

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you know whatever. So in yourfour hour assessment, give us some examples
of some of the things that youtest for. So in the four hour
assessment, we go through the veryfirst thing. As we go through breathing,
we make sure that how are youbreathing, what your airway like,
is it narrowed as restricted? Isyour how your ribs while you're breathing,

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what's happening are they expanding collapsing?What we will look at each rib as
if that's an issue. I seesome ribs that it need to be addressed,
then I'll go measure those. Thenwe go to the jaw and then
we you know, we look atand I see you, do you have
any metal in your mouth? Doyou have missing teeth? Do you have
cavitations? Uh? Do you talkto him about? Do you have abscesses?

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Have you gotten any teeth pulled?What dental work you have or had?
Do you have surgeries in your mouth? Because anesthesia also plays a huge
part root canals, So we figureout all those things. And if people
usually I ask people ahead of timeand like if you have dental records,
like save me the time, saveyou the time. Then we go through
their atlas and we see is therea their cervical spine, so that where
if you take someone's head off,and then for people that don't know what

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analysis, it's your c one vertebrae. So if you take the head off,
that's the top topmost vertebrae of yourspine. You put the head back
on that you got your seed oneand that accounts for fifty percent of your
rotation in your whole spine, andyour cranial nerves and vertibo arteries go through

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your atlas. So if that's rotatedmore than a degree each way you're going
to start cutting off circulation in places, which means you're not going to get
blood flow innervation into your hands.And then all the way down the body,
so we see what is your atlisdoing in relationship to itself and also
the movement that you go through.So it could be straight when you're moving,
but then you turn your head andit's locked in one position. Is

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it fixed to the skull? Isit fixed to the spine? We need
to figure out all those things.Then we go through the to the spine
and go as any or any jointsblocked or is anything not moving? Then
we go to the shoulder and thenwe then then i'd run a couple of
simple tests to go um actually reallysimple, but UM run some tests to
see do you have a potential laboromtear. So that way I need to
go, Okay, well this personmay need a doctor, you know,

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they need to go get a surgeonto go fix your shoulder. And maybe
they never go they didn't want togo to the hospital. But then they
get a holistic guy like me andgo, hey, you got you got
some stuff torn off your body,like you may you need to do this
first or you need to go geta consult to see whether this is what
we think it is or not.And if they pass those, then we

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go to see as it any impingements, Um, are there range of motion
issues? Is it end range?Is it through the range? Like?
Where does it hurt? And uh? Is there any limitations to your movement?
And then and then we go downthe rest of your spine. We
check spinal angles to make sure areyou in that proper posture, are you
in the seventeen degree range? Orwhat's off? So we look at the
cervical spine and relationship to the thoracicand relationship to the lumbar spine and what

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is your all of us doing andall of this. Then we measure the
pelvic angles. Then we measure yourcore function. Is your is all of
the inner unit muscles working and ifthey're not okay, noted? And then
we go through all the primal patternmovements to make sure all the movements that
you're doing, how what do theylook like? You know, are you
squatting properly? Are you leaning?Are you tilting? Is your knee going

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in? What's happening? What isprogrammed in your mind. Almost nobody's squats
properly. It's scary. Yeah,I mean, I mean, you know
you told me that I look likea very healthy guy. And even I
am like, I'm not going topush my squats because something feels off today,
and I know that if I can'tbury my squad and I work on

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it, yeah, you know,if the chances of the general population being
like, no, my squad's perfect, it's slim to none. And then
what's even interesting is like what's Icheck what's programmed in their mind? Which
is interestingly enough is when I askpeople a squat, it's atrocious. And
then I'm I'll fake like an irritationand go go sit down, and they
do a perfect squad, and I'llgo stand up, sit down, stand

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up. So I'm like, whatare you doing, Like that's a perfect
squad. Why don't you squad likethat? I'm like, I don't know.
My trainer back he told me tothis is a squad. I go.
So you sit and poop probably threetimes a day, hopefully on one
to three times a day. Ihope. The constipation is another thing people
come seeing before. But people haveprograms in their mind thinking that the certain

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lift corresponds with a certain movement,but they do the movement all the time.
So then I have to rewire theirmind to do different things like that
that thing, that atrocious wobbly thingthat you showed me, is not a
squad. You sitting down is aperfect squad. Now let's grab a kettle
bell. Now, okay, pretendyou're taking a poop. Oh, okay,
that's perfect. Great. Okay.Now now every time I say do

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a squad or take a poop,I say, okay, now you're doing
a squad. Now you reprogrammed.This is actually a squad. So we
have to why or how the brainworks, but that's that's later. So
once I identify that there's an issuewith some kind of muscular imbalances and then
then I go and read it takeslike two hours to read all seventy pages

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and then put a program together thatdirectly fixes those issues. And it takes
me. It takes a lot oftime. And if you know, if
I get broken, I have togo and take more time. So I
have to find time to like reallysit down, clock all doors, turn
off all the things, all thephones, and then focus on this thing.
Because there's like seventy pages of assessments. It's hundreds of assessments. I

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read through and make sure I don'tmess something up, because you can prescribe
an exercise, and to be thisprecise, I need to make sure that
I am very diligent that I don'tprescribe one exercise or give them one exercise
that counteracts another exercise. And sothat's that's basically what the assessment is.
And then we once they submit theirpaperwork, then we have a whole other

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dive into what's happening and there intheir food and their mind, in their
relationships at home, one of thebiggest struggles traumas, And that way we
can have a big understanding of what'sburdening someone. You know, someone has
four head posture and capotic like someonecould be heartbroken and they could be overwhelmed
and they can't get over the overwhelmedand this posture is like I can't fucking

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do anymore. Reaffirms Yeah. Andthen so when you find that out and
you go, well, what ifwe lift that. Let's pretend that we
lift and you see them get better. You see them lift right up and
they go, how they feel somuch better? And I'm observed they don't
even know what they're doing, butI'm observing them get right up right and
go, wow that if I feelconfident, that would feel a lot better.
And then they end up getting onlike perfect posture. So these things
they all interact, and Joseph Campbellsays the best you can't touch any part

(47:45):
of the spiderweb without affecting the wholespiderweb or the rest of the spiderweb.
Hopefully answer your question, yes,yeah, for the most part. I
mean it's a four hour assessment,so yeah, there's there's a lot to
it. What do you think thatthe main cause of poor movement patterns is
because as babies, we understand howto squad perfectly, Like if you look

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at a baby in a squad,it's the perfect squad. And then we
get older and what happens from ourperfect movement patterns to where we are now?
I see this happen in women alot, because babies breathe perfectly,
right, But let's start there.Babies breathe perfectly, And what happens when
kids get older and they say randomstuff and mean stuff to see how the

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powerful their words are. And Iknow many people like this that when they
take any deep breath at some pointin their life, someone goes, oh,
your belly looks fat, and theysuck it in. They never breathe
again through their belly. Yeah,And it's tragic because I have three daughters
and I'm always breathing through my stomach. I'm always affirming them and making sure

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that like this, this is functional. Yeah, that is a mental disease
you're about to put yourself into.Like that is to functional. You're breathing
with your belly. And then theyall know now that breathing with your belly
is how you regulate your system.So, but most people don't have these
conversations. Most people haven't spent sixteenyears in coaching, in twelve years,

(49:12):
thirteen years with Paul Check, hangingaround, hanging around Paul Check and have
ingrained this into my nervous system andbe able to speak and at articulately and
have you know young kids. Yourkids trust you and they're like, okay,
that makes sense. And also I'llbe able to explain to them in
a way that they can understand.So I would say it starts there,
and once you restrict the amount ofoxygen that's coming in you. You are

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now forcing you know, let's saybelly is two thirds of your breath.
Well, let's say also at seventyease, now you have the one third
of your breath. But also yourarroway is restricted. Your posture is changed,
which means your blood flow and youroxygen exchange between your lungs and your
heart and you and your muscles andtissue. Your detoxification goes off. Now

(49:57):
you add some food every now andthen, that's not helpful, or let's
say more often than now and then. And now you add your body can't
compensate that by detoxing because you havepoor, poor airway, poor breathing.
And you do that for twenty thirty, forty years, fifty years, and
you have a stock pile. Itlooks like what happened in the ocean.
We don't notice it right front.And now you have a big pilot garbage

(50:21):
in the ocean, except you could. It shows up in your body,
not somewhere else you can't see,and so that's where it starts. Now,
if you have organ inflammation and youcan't draw your belly, you can't
stabilize your pelvis, and if yourjaws underdeveloped from poor or from malnutrition,
which is weston a price's work.If your jaws malnourished and deforms, and

(50:45):
now you can't have proper airway,proper breathing, and then now you can't
stabilize your core. What you're gonnado, You're gonna hang off your ligaments.
And then on top of that,we're sitting at desks at school and
you know, desks at work,and then we think it's a good idea.
Then barefoot running shoes and trained formarathons after we've been sedentary for thirty
years and our feet are all bustedup, ankles are busted up, can't

(51:06):
squad even more, your calves aretight, fashions bound up, you're like
in a straight jacket in your fascia. And you're telling me about the foam
roller with the vibration in there.I'm like, I don't even heard of
that. I gotta try that out. But people don't even like laid on
their muscles, and they're going,that hurts, I won't do it again.
But it's like, no, ifit hurt, you should probably lay
on. It's more so those compoundingthings over years of our lives cause problems,

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and also a lot of us dohigh school sports, middle school sports,
college sports. And then I've workedwith more professional athletes that I've seen
carry terrible squad form where I'm like, how are you doing that? How
are you not injured? Like I'veseen people take three hundred and fifteen three

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hundred and sixty five pounds and looklike they're going to fold in half like
origami, and they come right backup, and I'm like, this is
insane, and how you're You're like, oh, you're probably not gonna live
very long in the in the inthe league, and sure enough they don't
because they don't take the time tofix these things. They're like, oh,
it's working for me. And socoaching is also a big thing.
Education of coaches is a huge thingon that point of it's working for me.

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What do you say to somebody whosays I'm fine, who you can
clearly tell it is not fine.I think a lot of people don't know
how good they could feel. Myselfincluded, like when I was in high
school eating the cheeseburgers and all thecrap, Like I thought I was feeling

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okay until I learned that there's thiswhole other world out there of healthy food
and learning, proper movement and breathing. So what do you say to those
people who think that they're doing fine? Well, you only know what you

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know. Yeah, And what Icould say to people like that is anyone.
I mean, I'll start with I'llstart with this analogy. Someone is
excited about having a kid, andthen they have a kid. They thought
they knew love until they had theirkid. Then they're like, I had
no idea what love was. Andyou can. You can do that for

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many things like freedom. You go, you thought you had freedom. You
know, you go to work,you got your money. Until you started
your own business, it was hard, and all of a sudden, now
you feel freedom because you've built yourbusiness up and you go. So most
of the time we don't even knowwhat the horizon is because we get it's
almost like we boil ourselves like frogs. You know that analogy. You can't
boil a frog by throwing in ahot water. You gotta slowly tune it
up. I actually heard that that'sfactually false, Like I think if it

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sounds good, though it does soundgood, like it makes sense, but
I think factually like that doesn't happenfor for analogy sake, then yes,
but I appreciate that because I yeah, I don't I don't want to think
that anymore if it's not true.Um, there's an example of how people
could change, like, oh,facts yet with information, let's change.

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I mean, let's get a factchecker on that. From my understanding,
it boils for this analogy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You don't know
how good you could feel and untilyou feel that way. But I will
say this, if they trust theprocess long enough, let's say they give
themselves three months to a year,even two months, let's say two months
to a year. If someone canmaintain good habits, then they go back

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to their old habits and they willnotice the difference. That's the best way
to tell. Because you don't knowhow far you're going if you never look
back. So if you're walking upa mountain, you don't know actually how
far you're going because you can't seethe top of the mountain and you can't
see the bottom of the mountain.But then when you look back, you
go, holy smokes, I've traverseda lot of mountain and that's the same
analogy. And when you're walking towardsthe horizon, you don't know because the

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horizon stays the horizon all the time. So every time you're walking towards love,
love is the horizon. You're yourpotential is the horizon. But you
never get to the horizon, andso you'll always keep walking. But you
never really know how far you're goneuntil you actually try to go backwards,
and you go there's a certain pointwhere you go, I'm further forward than
I am back to where I was. And as long as they can cross

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that threshold, then they start feelingbetter. So I haven't drank in like
eleven years, and I did forSarah's birthday. You know, someone was
like an organic wine, biodynamic,give me all the you know, there's
no there's no sult fates in them. And so I started drinking and the
next day I was like, Ifeel horrible. Really yeah, So I

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noticed the opposite. I noticed thatDryfarm Wines, who is biodynamic, bullshit
free. I noticed that I wasable to wake up the next morning feeling
great, like seemingly no impact insleep, no reduction in HRV resting heart
rate. And I track it witha whoop. But how many glasses you
have? Okay, well, there'sa lot of glasses. Yeah, yeah,

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my or on like two two glasses. I rarely go over that.
The way the way my brain worksis, uh, it's either or all
out. You know, I getit, and so it's either because if
I drink, I'm also Eastern European. I used to be heavily. I
used to be drink heavily. Andmy parents used to drink like they can

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finish a handle and you won't evennotice, noble, no problem. And
I've had some friends later when Iwas still drinking try to like keep up
with them, and they were blastedand it's an impressive amount that they used
to drink. But now they diddrink a lot less um, like a
lot less um and um. Sothe way my body works is it doesn't
really uptake that is efficiently, andso I have to drink more. So

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it's if I want to feel tipsyor something or or or um get to
that like good tipsy feeling, Ihave to drink more. But if I
drink more, I feel like crap. Have you played around with like kaba
or gabba or any sort of likealcohol alternatives I have played around with.
Uh, I'm not gonna say thename, but creatum and cava mixtures,

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and I got heavily addicted to thatstuff, and uh it was painful getting
off of it. Um. Imy At this point in my life,
I don't want to do anything thattrips anything like that up anymore. I
have a good enough time honestly drinkingwater. I have imagine that you can
have fun with just water. Yeah. Crazy and uh eating eating good food,

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and I like to eat snacks thatI make so I'll get an antifungal
Like we have antifungal cookbooks and Imake antifungal desserts so that way I can
at least over eat. And Iknow my body can process food because I
have a healthy digestive system, andI've put on more fat than I'll get
rid of the fat at some point. Um. But the way my body
feels on other substances, I'm alwayssober. Yeah, when I'm when I'm

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with people, um is I like. I like it. I've had enough
of blackout days, and I've hadenough of feeling terrible, and I've had
enough of making a fool out ofmyself at times that i I'm like,
what's wrong with me? Yeah?Being me? Yeah? And if someone's
listening to this, and they maybe triggered. It's like, I'm not
talking about you, talking about me. Remember this my experience, this is

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how I feel, and this iswhere I'm at in my life. So
I'm speaking for no one but myself. And yeah, those are those moments
where I'm like, but I ifI drink wine, I still feel groggy
because in order to get the thingI want, I'm not drinking it for
the taste, Like the taste isgood, but you're drinking for the benefit,

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and the added social benefit doesn't outweighthe way I feel the next day
when I'm pretty charismatic and fun,yeah and goofy as it is. That
was me in the Marine Corps.It's like, I'm not drinking too have
a few drinks, like I'm drinkingto get drunk, and yeah, after
enough of that, I realized,Hey, life is good, sober,
I can just enjoy this clearheaded.And I couldn't move like I couldn't exercise.

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The next day, I couldn't.I wasn't flexible. My stomach hurt,
like my head hurt. I couldn'tthink. I couldn't play with my
kids, like there's so many thingsthat you know, doesn't make sense,
doesn't make sense to me anymore.So talk on some of the most important
healthy habits that you recommend. So, if going back to that person who
quote unquote thinks that they feel goodand they're curious about exploring the the state

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that we're referring to, what arethe most beneficial healthy habits that they could
start with? In general? Um, drink clean water. Stop drinking tap
water. Get either a good filter. Here's here's the math. For anyone
not convinced. You know, ifyou buy a gallon of water a dollar
a day, you drink a gallonof water a day, let's say for
most people, three hundred and sixtyfive bucks. A good filter, a

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good reverse house most as filter isgoing to cost you four to seven hundred
dollars two years. Your your wholefilter is paid for. You have free
water. Now after that it's free. Drink enough water that you can feel
hydrated. Have some minerals in yourbody where you add salt to those.
Re add some salts to those minerals. Go to bed by ten o'clock.

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If you could fall asleep at tenand get up at six, you're without
going into how the body restores itself. There's a reason why people say that
with your matches, your circadian rhythms, and your organs and your mental state
to recover it in the middle ofthe night when you go to bed from
ten to six, there's a there'sa function that happens that recovers your mental
and physical state, which means you, guys say, notice stuff, Um

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yeah, so quits staying up late. It's the easiest way to build up
cortisol and add add fat to yourbody. If people are feeling brave enough,
cut out processed food and stay awayfrom gluten and commercial dairy. I've
even tried the best of the bestof dairy and it doesn't work for me.
And I cut out eggs two soit doesn't work for me. Stay
away from process sugars. Poop.If you pop once a day, like

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if you can get a good poopin, it should be about twelve inches
long, brown, and please don'thold your poop in if you have to
poop whatever. To go poop,it's the most satisfying feeling and you're getting
rid of all this stuff. Sopoop goo to bed on time, drink
water, cut out certain foods andI'm not even saying all the foods that

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aren't gluten and dairy and eggs,eggs. You know some most people can
do eggs, but I body buildedand I ate egg everything, egg,
white, protein everything, and I'mgetting myself an allergy. So I can't
eat eggs anymore. Yeah, itsucks because I like eggs. Yeah,
and then cut out process sugar andprocessed foods meaning like bars and de hyde,
like dry things that you know,nuts, because nuts will tend to

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constipate a lot of people, especiallyif they're eating eaten with like meat and
starches and then nuts. I mean, it's a recipe for your body to
create like compact dry coaling, becauseyour body has to hydrate that and where
it is a hydrator from a hydratesfrom your body, pulls water out of
your body to hydrate your poop soyou can get it out of your body.

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And if you don't have enough water, then it stays in there and
then it rots. So now youhave bacteria, fungal over girls, parasites,
and now they're eating for you.And so let's digress a little bit.
Go for a walk after meals.You know you you eat lunch,
Go for a walk thirty minutes.Nothing, nothing crazy, you know,

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make sure you're not like huffing andpuffing, and go for a regular walk,
look around at nature. If youcan get your feet on the ground
every day, great, If it'snot every day, okay, get a
grounding mat, you know, ifyou're living a high rise, if you're
live in a condo apartment where there'stons of electronmatic stress around, you get
a grounding mat. Watch how bethow much better you'll feel? And you

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combine all those together, then it'sa good recipe for starting that train off
right. And most of that stuff'sfree, you know, watching the sunrise,
rounding clean water is basically free.You find a spring dot com,
find a spring dot com, getsome water. It's free. Two final
questions, What are you most excitedabout right now? So I'm really excited

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about bridging the gap between practitioners andintroducing them into airway mouth dentists. So
one of our colleagues on our communityof Primal Pride, where people come in
on office hours and every Monday,we come in for two hours live and
I answer all our questions deeply,way deeper than I can get anywhere,
and then and then we record them. Storm so they ask a lot about

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mouth stuff because I've been going throughit. They've been watching me go through
it for two years and struggling,and I can't chew anything and complain the
whole time. And but I'm noticedtelling them all the benefits that I'm getting.
And so one of our colleagues wasasking what they could do, and
I was like, I'll read thisbook. So she reached out to doctor
Felix Leal and then and then doctorFelix Leao who wrote that book and several

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other books. I think My Child'sBeautiful Face is great for any parent who
has kids and how to how toaddress those mouth issues before he gets really
complex nasal breathing and stuff like that. Um, well, if you're taking
the job in the mouth, youcan breathe out of your nose. And
then if you bring them, ifyou bring the maxilla forward, the vomer
has somewhere to sit, so youcan't really if someone has a deviated septum,
could be a maximal maxilla retraction becausethen the volmer has nowhere to go

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and he either goes through the palette. So if people can if the people
feel like this sounds like them,put tongue to really of your mouth.
You feel a lump under that.That's your nose. Is it your vomer
slicing through your maxilla and taking upspace because has nowhere to go forward.
It needs to be brought out ofyour nose. But it can't do that
without a longer track to sit in. So with with him, he found

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he found a practitioner in Canada.She worked with Canada start getting migraine.
She flew down here to come seeus, and I tuned her up.
She came back to Canada and shegot observed by her by her dentist.
She goes, what happened. I'venever seen so much structural change occur,
and all and all the symmetry happenedso quickly. So then she reached out

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to doctor Felix Leout. Doctor FelixLeout reached out to me, and then
we started talking and it was likea fifteen minute console that was an hour
and a half conversation, and wewere nerding out about what we are doing.
And so he's working on getting practitionerslike me to bridge the gap for
dentists because dentists are bent over atable all day and they're also needing people

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like us. So we're going towork together to get a person like me
to connect dentists with practitioners. AndI couldn't. I couldn't think of a
better thing to do in a timelike this and this whole time. So
and then work with doctor Felix Leout, getting him as a case study to

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work to show him what I do. And then then you use that as
a case study to show dentists thepower of a check practitioner, nursematic therapist
to do the structural work with theairway dentistry to really maximize the potential,
because if you work on the teeth, the body could could fall back in
place. That's the chiropractic mindset.If we move this back, everything else

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kind of shifts back after a time. But if we could do both of
them at the same time, that'smassive, not only change for a person,
but faster they don't have to spendso much time doing both one then
you got to go find the other. It's like, no, let's pair
it all together. Let's see whowe all are and hold each other accountable

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and help each other out and referback and forth, but also treat each
other. So that's what I'm reallyexcited about bridging this gap in the works
currently, very exciting. All right, last question, what does thriving mean
to you? Thriving thriving Thriving seemslike it's easy, it's ease, ease

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of life where you have you don'thave to have the stuff figured out.
But you know where you're going,and you see light at the end of
the tunnel and you're not living indarkness of where your health is going,
where your mind is going, whereyour relationship is going, where you know
life is going. That seems likethriving to me. Not the absolving of

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stress, but knowing how to navigateit in a life that wants to push
put You know things of gallet meand lust in front of you. You
know how to navigate these situations.And I feel like if you know how
to navigate certain situations, especially witha modern marketing nowadays and fear, then

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I think you're thriving because you haveyour own mind. I means you have
your own mind, you make youcritical, you have critical thinking abilities,
you have discernment, know what you'relooking at um and even in you're okay
with being alone and then by beingalone paradoxically you find people that are also
on the same journey, and thenbeing there long enough, you find out

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you're not alone. And if you'relistening to this, you're definitely not alone.
So that I feel like that's thriving, even if it doesn't feel like
there's people around you and it doesn'tshow up the same way you see on
Instagram with like the lambeau and yourdriveway and like you know yachts and you
know, superficial situations. I stillthink you're thriving. You have a you
have a good head and shoulders,Your kids are fed, you, your

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love, your partner, You've gotall the love. You're thriving a great
love that Alex. Thank you forhelping me fulfill my purpose, which is
to make thriving standard. I thinkyou summed it up perfectly. Appreciate you
coming on the show. I needto find a place to put this that
that means that I can see it. Yeah, let's make thriving standard.

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I like it, love it,Pease