November 23, 2023 • 51 mins
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
2:29 - Who is Project Pat (Drug Lord to Men's Health Optimization Coach)?
06:00 - Are you numbing or distracting yourself?
7:45 - Do you secretly hate your job?
16:20 - How you are draining your own energy, explained.
20:20 - THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
26:06 - What does it mean to be "mentally shredded?"
28:30 - How to build consistency (something is ALWAYS better than nothing)
30:22 - Pat's experience at The Immersion
31:41 - Your THOUGHTS become your REALITY
34:29 - Do THIS if you feel stuck (step by step)
40:08 - The power of visualization (how-to manifest)
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
2:29 - Who is Project Pat (Drug Lord to Men's Health Optimization Coach)?
06:00 - Are you numbing or distracting yourself?
7:45 - Do you secretly hate your job?
16:20 - How you are draining your own energy, explained.
20:20 - THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
26:06 - What does it mean to be "mentally shredded?"
28:30 - How to build consistency (something is ALWAYS better than nothing)
30:22 - Pat's experience at The Immersion
31:41 - Your THOUGHTS become your REALITY
34:29 - Do THIS if you feel stuck (step by step)
40:08 - The power of visualization (how-to manifest)
Connect with Pat:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/patsmithwellness/
Website: https://direct.me/patsmithwellness/ #meditation
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(00:00):
You know, drinkings five six timesa week in MDMA and cocaine pretty much
every time I was drinking basically,couldn't name a time where I didn't have
a blood in my hand. Hereyou are fully in the present moment,
your battery level, your charge levelsone hundred percent. The moment you start
worrying about what's going on tomorrow orwhat you have to do in the future,
you're like draining yourself of this energy. You're gonna attract more of those
(00:22):
things that it sounds like you probablydon't want. If you're worrying about them
or fearful of what happened in thepast, You're gonna attract more of those
in the future, Whereas if you'rein the present moment, you're gonna have
a lot more contentionality and focus onthe things that you do want. They
always tell me you won't believe whathappened, and I'm like, I believe
it. You've changed, You aredifferent than where you were before. A
couple of minutes and in the saunaafter the gym, a guided two minute
(00:44):
meditation in the sauna, I'm like, I can't. Pat Smith is joining
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me today on tiny table talks withTata. Pat, you are a repeat
guest on the show. I firsthad you on when after you invited me
to the Doctor Joe Despends an advancedmeditation retreat down in San Diego. That
was a wonderful time. That wasactually one of the big shifts in my
life after I got to experience that, which which we're definitely gonna get into
(01:34):
today. And before we do that, we're gonna take shots. We're gonna
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Pat Smith, Hello, good morninglad. I love seeing your face and
your energy. It's you just embodythe work that you do so to begin
(02:44):
it, tell everybody about the workthat you do, and then we'll get
into a little bit of your backstoryand what brought you here. Sure.
So, currently I'm a men's healthoptimization coach and the other part of my
business is consultant for a group calledNeurochange Solutions. It's an organization run by
doctor Jo Despenza, and we takein meditation, emotional intelligence, and stress
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regulation into the workplace to really createcultures that are more productive, efficient,
collaborative. Knowing that right now inthe current business landscape that you have to
think alternatively to get new results andbetter results with such a drastically changing world
around us, and the companies thatare diving in to ultimately invest in their
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employees and develop them are the onesthat are going to be there for decades
to come, and the ones thataren't are going to fall by the wayside.
So my mission, based off mypast corporate experience, is to be
able to go into these companies toevolve them, to grow them, to
open their mind to new ways ofthinking instead of being stuck in their old
(03:53):
ways. I like the example yougave in the sauna yesterday about how companies
say that they want to increase theirrevenue, and what are they doing to
do that? The same old thingover and over again. If you want
to talk a little bit about thatand why that doesn't work, sure,
yeah, it's you know, Ithink there's an Albert Einstein quote that says,
you can't fix the you can't fixthe same problems with the same mind
(04:15):
that created them. And so ifyou think of business in a sense,
we see, especially in the Americansociety, that everybody wants more, more
and more and more money, moresales, more growth, but they're not
willing to do anything differently. Sothe majority of leaders are so stuck in
their ways that the uncertainty of doingsomething differently scares them so much that they
(04:38):
just keep doing the same things,but then getting upset that they haven't reached
the true success that they've they've theywant to reach in their business. And
so by investing in their employees,teaching them these emotional type skills, teaching
them meditation, teaching them breathing techniques, it actually puts them into a better
state of mind, so they canstart to receive new information, they can
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start to act on new things thatare gonna then transcend a business from where
they are now to where they reallywant to go, five, ten,
fifteen, twenty years down the road. Yeah. The definition of insanity exactly
doing the same thing exactly and expectingdifferent results. And we do the same
thing in our lives, right,yeah, outside of a business sense,
we all do this, like wesay we want this thing, but we
(05:24):
keep repeating the same patterns and habitsover and over. Right, And you
know a little bit about habit change, yeah, yeah, so yeah,
before we get into the ins andouts of habit change and how to change
your energy to ultimately change your lifeand create the life that you want to
live, talk to us a littlebit about your background and your origin story,
(05:45):
Like you weren't always this optimized,no jacked, And yeah, I've
got a man, I've got aus you know right here, the Project
Pat. So that's the nickname thatall my friends back in my hometown used
to call me early on. Reallyfocused on partying all the time, right,
drugs, alcohol, used to sellall types of drugs And you know,
I don't even know if I've saidthat on a podcast before, but
(06:08):
I just telled everybody, so don'tincriminate me. But and yeah, that
was my story. From fourteen totwenty four, I was really in the
depths of drug and alcohol addiction,even though from the outside looking in things
looked normal. I had. Ihad, I played baseball the way up
until I got to college. Iwent to a state school, had a
(06:30):
really good GPA, graduated in fouryears. Somehow, while you know,
drinking five six times a week inMDMA and cocaine pretty much every time I
was drinking, and basically couldn't namea time where I didn't have a blunt
in my hand. And you know, there was some specific circumstances that came
that happened when one of my familymembers passed away that where I really hit
(06:50):
rock bottom, and I had togo into the depths of myself to figure
out, what is it do Iactually want in life? And when am
I actually going to take ownership andresponsibility for my life? And when I
did that, I got really intounderstanding how stress can mentally strain our body
and emotionally strain our body. AndI realized that for so long I had
(07:12):
never paid I've never I never paidattention to my mental and emotional health because
I was always numbing what I hadwith drugs and alcohol, and so that
got me really into understanding meditation anddiving deeper and working for my working on
myself, and then over the courseof time, just figuring out, Okay,
if I felt that bad at rockbottom, what's the opposite of that?
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And the opposite is how healthy,how fulfilled, how like focused can
I be? And that that's whatreally got me on the journey to where
I am today and where I stillplan to go. I remember, that's
what brought you to me because youstarted as a client of mine. Yeah,
just how can I optimize my life? Right? And one of the
(07:54):
things that we talked about that hasbeen brought up here many times is you
were at the time working a jobthat you weren't fulfilled with, that you
knew you weren't going to spend therest of your life and that was a
big sticking point for you. Ohyeah, right, So talk to us
about how you were able to recentlycome to the decision that you were done
with that and now onto what youdo now. Yeah. It's actually a
(08:16):
funny story because, like Taylor andI said, we started working together I
think it was in January of lastyear, and we really talked about you
know, talk about optimizing your lifeand my nutrition, my movement, my
meditations. They were good. Iwas making good money too at my old
job, right, multiple six figures, And you know, there was still
(08:39):
that nagging voice in the back ofmy head, like this isn't what you're
supposed to be doing the rest ofyour life. And fast forward a few
months later, Taylor and I metin person for the second time and went
to the Joda Spenzer Retreat. Well, we first met in Virginia. Yeah
that I was saying. That wasour second time in person, and I
trusted him enough that I let himstay in my hotel room for the entire
week. So and that's a wholedifferent story, but it was. It
(09:03):
was. It was a great week, by the way, but it just
opened my eyes to everything that wasavailable. And that actually brought me into
uh seeing the organization Neural Change Solutions, because they kind of were promoting it
there at the week long retreat,and it started to get me thinking about,
Wow, I see these same needsin the company that I was in,
(09:24):
and I was like, maybe Ineed to be that person to really
help them, because I really understandwhat this work is about. So fast
forward a few months later, andI had at the time, this was
in October, late September, Octoberof last year, and I had I
had an inclination that no matter what, by the end of the year,
(09:45):
by the end of last year,I was going to quit my job,
no matter what. And so Ihad been saving up money. And then
I was actually at another week longretreat, doctor Joe Spend's retreat at the
end of September and October. Andas Taylor knows, the walking meditations that
we do are very powerful because youstart walking and acting as if you're already
(10:07):
living a life before it actually happens, and that feeling is it's kind of
indescribable powerful. And so the firstday, I you know, I didn't
necessarily take vacation that week from myjob, but I was also working remote
and I always handled my stuff,nothing ever got done. I never kind
(10:33):
of slipped past. I ever goteverything done, had a great sales territory,
highest in the company, pretty close. And I just remember that that
morning we were doing walking meditation andI was sitting there and I was in
pure bliss, sun shining down onme, and I kind of just got
this voice that whispered to me,and looking back, I think it was
a voice of whether it was myselfor my cousin who passed away, and
(10:56):
it said, why are you alwayswasting your time on other people's dreams but
you won't waste it on yours,not waste it, but won't take time
for your own dreams. What makesyou think that if you can't be successful
at chasing someone else's dreams, thatyou can't be successful at chasing yours.
And I was like, damn,Like okay, and then I didn't have
my phone. I have my phoneon airplane mode. We went to breakfast.
(11:18):
Next thing you know, I openedmy phone on up and I put
it off airplane mode. And Ihad been blown up by everyone in my
company, which to me was surprisingbecause I get stuff handled. They never
really have to worry about me.And there is just some circumstances that it
was like it was an opportunity.And we talked about this yesterday that I
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do have something for me to workthrough is when I have to go talk
to someone about something tough, man, I really feel it there in the
throat chakra. But it was likethe situation that happened and some of the
questions like, hey, do youeven enjoy this job? That was asked
to me by my boss and myowner was like opening the door wide open
for me to be like, Yo, now's your time. You don't even
(12:01):
have to step into the uncomfort becauseit's already sitting there waiting. And I
pretty much told them, hey,let's just cut to the chase. By
the end of the year, Iwas gonna quit my job anyways. I'm
just gonna put my two weeks innow, and like this, this weight
like fell off, and you know, they asked, if you know what,
what would it take for me tostay there? Money, whatever,
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And I told him that's not that'snot what it's about anymore. You know,
I was making multiple six figures.It's not about the money. It's
about me feeling fulfilled. And Ijust had turned thirty a couple of months
ago, and so I was Iwas thinking to myself, if I don't
do it now, I'm more thanlikely going to trick myself into thinking that
I'm never going to be able todo it, especially down the line if
I look into marriage and kids.And so that's what led me to really
(12:48):
just taking that leap. And Iwill say that my life has changed dramatically
for the better since then. Yeah, it's a it's a noticeable difference.
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so before we continue on, Iwant to take it back to before,
back to when you were Project Pat. Yeah, before the path that's
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sitting before me. Now, yeah, you said you weren't focusing on your
mental health. What were you focusingon at that point? Everything I could
do too to distract myself from thoseemotions. Unknowingly, I didn't even know
that it was a thing, andso all I was worried about was,
you know, it's like they sayto the rap songs, it's like fuck
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bitches get money. I was kindof really what was serious? I mean,
like, you know, smoking weed, drinking, partying, like doing
anything that you can think of toliterally distract myself from ever facing some of
the things that we worked through yesterday, right, pain and suff pain and
suffering, but pain and stories andsituations as a child with parents splitting up,
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and other things that you know,unconsciously I didn't even realize were affecting
me. And so that's all,that's all I spent my time doing,
I didn't you know. But thenon the on at the same token,
I was also making sure that Iput on a nice facade for my parents
of getting good grades and playing sports. Now it didn't mean that I didn't
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come reaking of weed every night intothe house, but hey, I got
to practice, and I got goodgrades and I could get into school,
and you know, I kind oftry to cover it up to that sense.
But looking back, I realized howdetrimental the things I was doing was
pushing me. So the gap betweenme understanding my emotions every time was pushing
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me further and further away, youknow, year after year, blunt after
blunt, whatever, trip after trip, drink after drink, it just it
just took me so much further away. So when I had to come back
to further on in late or earlymy early twenties, like I was in
a really down bad spot mentally.Yeah, those are you guys who know
my story. I can relate tothis. When I was in the Marine
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Corps, like I was in thebest shape of my life, Like I
was fit as fuck, and onthe outside I was living a great life
right like I was a marine.I looked good, I had a great
family. But inside I was notdepressed. But I would frequently say that
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I hate my life. And aswe know the power of words, that
is what I was affirming. Thisfucking sucks. I hate my life.
I would dread getting back on theplane after taking leave from the Marine Corps
and having to go back to base. It was just this feeling of like
emptiness and apathy, like I didn'tcare if the plane crash, Like I
(16:07):
knew that what I was going backto fucking suck. So I was like,
what's what's the point? Right?And you know this the diagram that
doctor Joe puts in becoming supernatural ofthe person with you know, the energy
radiating on them, and it's youknow, all of these external factors texts,
(16:30):
emails, work, relationships, cartroubles, groceries, the news,
social media. So it sounds likeyou and I were both placing all of
our energy and attention on these externalfactors, and because of that, we
had no energy for ourselves, whichis why we were in that state.
(16:51):
Yact, you want to talk alittle bit about how where you place your
attention is? Where is where youplace your energy? Yeah, I just
I looked at a dive very similarlywhere No, it's like you here in
the middle. This is how Iat least imagine it or pictured it in
my head. Is you know,here you are fully in the present moment,
and your your battery level, yourcharge levels one hundred percent. The
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moment you start worrying about what's goingon tomorrow or what you have to do
in the future, and you startthinking about what that person did to you
a few days ago, two yearsago, ten years ago, twenty years
ago, you're like draining yourself ofthis energy, and so now you don't
really have any true energy to focuson the things that you do want because
your battery level is so drained down. So you're going to attract more of
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those things that it sounds like youprobably don't want if you're worrying about them
or fearful of what happened in thepast, you're going to attract more of
those in the future, or asif you're in the present moment, you're
gonna have a lot more intentionality andfocus on the things that you do want
because you're not worried about what's goingon later or what happened yesterday. You're
fully focused in That is a vibrationalfrequency, and I mean, you know
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it's it's definitely something that it can'tbe seen. When we were talking about
it in the sauna, right,there's like a sixth sense out there.
It's just this frequency and that youcan't you can't see it, but you
can feel it. And when yousurrender into the present moment, those things
match what you had to what youhave to offer. And I think Nate's
breath work last night was a greatexample of it. You know, him
(18:23):
and I discussed, you know,do you want to do a meditation afterwards
and then breathwork first? And thenI went up to him and mentioned to
him that, hey, you know, why don't you just go ahead and
do the breath work and the meditationthat I had written down, which I'm
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show. So breathing in through theroute basically like he was saying, bringing
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in through the kind of through thethrough your root chakra up into your upper
torso, through the heart, throughthe chest, out through the rest,
through the top of the head,and let it go into the universe,
putting your hand on your heart,opening your heart like it's like he had
read this book before it actually happened. But it's these synchronicities, these things
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that are weird, which aren't necessarilyweird. It's just you know, when
you're sitting there surrendering into the presentmoment, that stuff plays out all the
time. And I noticed it withmy clients. I notice it with myself
and my own situations. I mean, there's endless counts of where that's happened
to me and where that's happened toclients, And they always tell me,
you won't believe what happened, andI'm like, I believe it. You've
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changed. You are different than whereyou were before. You're not focused in
worried about what's going on. You'rejust settled into your body, comfortable and
trusting that the universe has so muchin store for you. And that energy,
just that belief is telling the energy. Okay, they accept in our
believing that we're there. Now weneed to kind of gift them to that.
And there's things that pop up inmany different ways. Yeah, there
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really are no coincidences in my experience. What I used to think were coincidences,
now I just see as of course, Yeah, of course that happened
because that is what I was drawingin. Joe, who's videoing right now.
Shout out to Joe Buchanan Linley.There before the immersion, some logistical
(20:45):
things fell through with the videographer whowas supposed to attend. I reached out
to Joe like a few days beforethe immersion, and it was like,
hey, and I had just methim at the time. We just recorded
podcasts together. I knew he didvideography and editing. I was like,
hey, would you be available tofly out in a few days to come
(21:06):
film the immersion? And he hadjust been let go of his job,
and it was like just this perfectserendipitous energy, like of course this happened
right now. Yeah, and herehe is fucking loving the experience as he's
nodding his head. So yeah,it's of course these happen for a reason.
(21:26):
Like people think that it's random orcoincidence, it's not like it's meant
to be. And there's so manyof those little moments that have been happening
here. Yeah, I'm going tojust share a quick story, so very
similarly me working with companies. WhenI started to getting into it, you
know, I noticed myself getting somewhatanxious or worried about when am I going
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to be able to start working withcompanies and sharing this information. And I
started meditating on it and just relaxingknowing that it's well on its way.
And I'll be honest, I didit for a couple of days through meditation,
and then one morning I opened myemail and I'm open my computer and
my email and the email address isspecific to my neuro Change Solutions email account,
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which not many people at all haveemail address, and I get this
email from this gentleman and I don'tknow who he is. And he messages
me and say, hey, Ifound your email address on the NCS website.
I'm local to Charlotte, and I'minterested in bringing the work that you
do into my company. I'm like, oh my god, like I was
(22:30):
just thinking on this, And evenfurther, he says, Hey, I'm
located in Dilworth, which is aneighborhood in Charlotte of all the neighborhoods of
a town of two, you know, a million to two hundred a million
to two million people in the greaterCharlotte area. And it's the same neighborhood
I live in right a few blocksdown the road. Hey, maybe we
(22:51):
could get on a call. AndI'm like, no, maybe tomorrow.
We meet for a coffee and he'slike okay, and we start hitting off
perfect right, this isn't it.So I'm like, okay, well that
just fell in my lap. Theguy's right down the street. He's got
his own business. It's a functionalmedicine business, which is like right up
my alley. We really got toconnect it off. So I start training
(23:11):
his group in himself, and Iwas chatting with him a little bit,
and they're moving from a specific businessmodel to a new business model, and
I start talking to him about,you know, what he wants for his
company, and he really wanted individualsto step out and start taking charge on
their own within the business without withoutwith him being a little more hands off.
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And there's a fifty five and oldercommunity that's keep being built by me
into a luxury condo building, andhe is all focused on health and wellness
and longevity. He's like, itwould be a great thing to be partners
with those types of buildings because wealready know those are our prime demographics.
And I said, yeah, that'dbe you know, that'd be wonderful.
Well, we're there with about sixor seven of his team members. We
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go through the training, it goesgreat. Then I go into their shop
a couple of days about a weeklater, and I go in and I'm
talking with the owner, and thenafterwards I have one of the gals grabbed
me and she said, hey,do you mind chatting with me behind the
building. And I'm thinking, okay, sure, Like maybe she had some
questions about the training, and shesaid she really enjoyed the training so much
(24:19):
that she was asking if I doanything personally one on one. And the
majority of the people that I workwith are men, but I of course
wanted to hear her out one seewhat she was getting used to Fast forward,
we start working together two three weekslater, and I asked her how
things are going at work, andshe's the wellness coordinator and she said,
oh, well, I'm having ameeting later. I said, oh,
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yeah, you having a meeting withShe said, well, the wellness director
or the director of this fifty fiveand older building is called in asking to
speak to me to find out ifwe could become partners for their new condo
building that's going up, which islike right next to my building. And
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I said, is the name ofit the Village? And she said,
well yeah. And I'm like,you know that your owner and I were
talking about that in the presence ofyou, and you weren't even aware of
the conversation. And they called youout of nowhere to find out if that
you could be their preferred company towork with and a wellness and she's like
wait what And I'm like, yeah, does he even know about The owner
didn't even know about it. Shedidn't know about it, and it was
(25:26):
just like the weirdest thing. Itwas like these things were just starting to
fall in her lap. And Inoticed her energy because she was so she
wasn't so worried about when things weregoing to happen. She just knew they
were going to happen. And itwas almost like I heard a guy in
the sun and the other day sayingthat you know, when you're worried or
you're anxious, you're literally blocking yourblessings from coming in because you can't see
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those possibilities that are right out infront of you. And it was the
same thing for her. And whenshe started to drop into the energy to
trust herself, that stuff just fellright in her lap. And I was
I couldn't believe it to be true. But then I'm thinking, this happens
way too often, and I onehundred percent believe it. Of course,
of course, yeah right, youcan't you can't create from a place of
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stress. And last, yeah right, so of course, change your energy,
change your life quite literally, SoI want to bring it back a
little bit. So you and Iwere both physically shredded and in good shape,
but mentally we weren't. You're wearinga sweatshirt that says mentally shredded.
(26:30):
Yeah, I shout out to myboy Chris and Charlotte. This is his
mental health awareness company, so nice. So how can we We've already covered
a lot of it, but alot of guys are focused on getting physically
shredded, right, and not thatthat's bad, right, nothing is either
good or bad, but thinking makesit so being physically fit is great,
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Like, that's fantastic, And Ithink take out the thing. Too much
of the focus, energy and attentiongoes into looking a certain way but without
feeling a certain way, because alot of people want to start going to
the gym to feel the way thatthey imagine that the person with the six
pack fuels. Right. But asyou and I have both personally experienced,
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we were physically shredded, but mentallywe're like fuck this right, right,
So we've already covered a lot ofit, But how are some other ways
that we can become mentally shredded?I mean, one of the things happened
yesterday, right? Can you beas vulnerable as you can and break down
that barrier? Because that first andforemost is going to get you focused on
your emotions that maybe you were blockingfor so long. And you know,
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using as Chase was talking about usingthe gym as therapy, Yep, that's
not the case. You have togo inward. So it can be as
much as you know what we experiencedyesterday with writing out your stories, meditating,
sitting with yourself, understanding your emotions. I mean, there's so many
tools, but I like to utilizethose. And to your point is,
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you know, you can put someonewith very little confidence in red sports car
and they can be confident for alittle bit, but the moment they get
out of a sports card, they'renot there. So it's it's almost too
The way I think about it islike you have to feel what that feels
like ahead of the actual event,especially with whatever it is emotion you're trying
to reach in the gym. Youwant to be confident. That's what you
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know, a lot of people think, oh, once you're shredded, you're
this super confident guy. But ifyou go in there and you're just covering
it up and covering up, you'reactually distancing yourself from understanding your emotions.
So when I think and what workedfor me. My personal story is one.
It really just started with a gratitudejournal, right, I was writing
out, Okay, what are thethings I'm grateful for in the morning,
just three things. I was like, I thought I was like killing it
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and that's a great start. Andsame thing when I was meditating a couple
minutes and in the sauna after thegym, a guided two minute meditation in
the sauna, I'm like, fuck, yeah, like I'm killing it.
Something is always better, right,It's like one step at a time.
Right, it was up climbing thismountain that we talk about, but it's
one step of the time. It'sno big jump or leap, and that's
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what it starts to build up.So the consistency and the intentionality of doing
it and believing that it's going towork for you are I think like the
two or three things that are gonnacan get individuals to reach their meat.
They're sorry, peak mental fitness.Yeah, that's what I to reach their
meat. Yeah, reached their meat. That that hasn't been a problem for
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me. I've always been able tosee it, to reach it, to
do whatever I please with it.He wasn't saying that after the ice earlier.
Yeah, little shriveled, little shriveled. Yeah. The journey to the
top of the mountain begins with withone step. But oftentimes we look up
at the top of the mountain,we see, fuck, that's going to
be a bitch, and we failto see the one step that we have
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to take, which is very simple. Right, you look up, you're
like, fuck, I can't dothat. What can you do? You
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to get yours today. Back tothe show. How was that story work
session yesterday with with Chasin Dave?You tell me how you thought it went
for me? Phenomenally? What whatunlocks there for you? Or what has
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changed from yesterday to today? Imean today, yesterday was a great day,
right, you know, I thinkI told y'all y'all saw me in
tears, which I don't necessarily cryoften. I hadn't cried and I couldn't
tell you in a while. Butit just reminded me that the stories and
the specific circumstances that I've been through, whether they seem trivial to some people
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based off what other people are goingthrough, they're my own and and I
don't have to live by those Andyou know, Nate took me through.
You know that we had the breakthe breath work last night and which was
fucking phenomenal that way. And it'snot here, but that was amazing,
Nate, wherever you're at, Nate, thank you. Yeah, And it
was just it just definitely reminded methat when you can surrender into your body
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and surrender, that things are gonnawork out exactly for you. I mean,
things start to come up right.I start to realize that as I
mentioned the stories that were once withme, especially about love and about opening
the heart and letting love in,we're all things based off me being stuck
on something that happened to me inthe past. And we talked about it.
If you're if you're stuck on theways in thinking of the past,
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you can't step into a new futurebecause you're stuck in the past, and
if you're thinking or feeling in thepast, you're not in the present moment.
And yeah, that just that reallyhelped me. And it also reminded
me that the more I trust myself, the more I'm vulnerable, the more
I open up, and the moreI have my own back and be my
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own cheerleader. Like, there's nothere's no limit to any of the possibilities
that are out there for me andwhatever it is I want in my life.
Yeah, the only limits are theones that we consciously or subconsciously place
on ourselves. And that's the powerof the words and the story works.
Yeah, we've been telling ourselves thisstory that has not been useful to us,
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Right, It's kept us in thisposition of stuckness or hurt or haunted.
And until we address that story,we're just going to keep reliving the
same patterns expecting different results. Yeah, And to that point, one of
the things that I noticed, especiallywhen I was coming out of being or
kind of really addicted to drugs andalcohol, was I didn't realize that those
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thoughts that I was having. Everytime you have a thought, you produce
this chemical and if if you havea negative thought, you produce a negative
chemtmical. And it wasn't that Iwas just addicted to the chemicals of drugs
and alcohol. I was addicted tothe chemicals of my thoughts. And it
was this such a hardwired loop thatit was that automatic program that I didn't
even realize it was going on.And so it just reminded me that if
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you can have a negative thought,you're going to produce negative chemicals. But
if you can start to think thegood thoughts, you're going to start to
develop the good chemicals, and thatcan start to rewrite the program of how
you want to feel on a dayto day basis, because if people don't,
then they're constantly living by that negativechemical and that chemical is sending a
stress response, just like if youbreak your leg. It's the same stress
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response as if you break your leg, as if you feel that emotional stress
in your body, and in thatyou're moving into these higher, higher brain
waves and you can't even fathom andBrooks was talking about, right, you
have a veil. You can't evenfathom that there's another possibility other than the
one that you're seeing because you're soin this heightened state unbeknownst to you.
But you're in this heightened state thatyou can't even accept any new information.
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And when you drop that barrier tobecome vulnerable, and of course through the
breath work, it really allows youto get out of this sympathetic into the
pair of sympathetic. I mean thatveil gets removed. The doors that you
see of all the opportunities come wideopen, and they present themselves to you
in a way that is is aI guess priceless, indescribable, sometimes feels
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too too real to be true.Almost. Yeah. A lot of people
are addicted to living in a familiarhell, yeah, and scared of going
into an unfamiliar heaven. Right,So we're just stuck in these these habits
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and patterns and negative feedback loops thatthat keep us in the familiar hell.
But it's okay because it's what weknow and doing anything different is the unknown.
Right. So I imagine we've we'vetalked a lot about it. Sure
ready, But what are some someaction items that you recommend people take if
they are stuck in these negative feedbackloops? Sure? Well, one I
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would say, right out where you'retrying to go and I look at it
as this. You know, thisis based off some of the work with
doctor Joe de Spender, but it'swe call it the river of change.
So you can go from the oldself to the new self. But to
get from the old self to thenew self, you've got to get through
the river of change. And theriver of change has some very fucking choppy
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waters. There's gonna be some logsin the river, and there's gonna be
some blocks, and you might getstuck and they might can rap it.
There might not be a current foryou to move along with. But first
and foremost, find out where you'retrying to go how you know, write
that down, figure it out,get very crystal clear, very specific on
where you want to go. Specificit is key, yeah, very specific.
I mean you have to give yourbrain and body instructions on where it
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wants to go. If you want. You know, someone told me,
hey, if you want more money, I can give you a dollar,
but that doesn't do anything for you. Right, how much money do you
want? How do you want tothink, act and feel? Who do
you want to be around? Wheredo you want to be? Like?
Getting crystal clear on that vision andhaving that vision as that guiding light,
because when you enter in and havethat vision, then you can utilize that
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as your guide, guidance point,or guide guide through life. Because then
there's gonna be specific obstacles that comeup from your environment. Certain people that
are gonna come up. They're gonnatry to persuade you say, oh,
you shouldn't do this or this istoo hard. Nope, you have to
hold the vision higher than where they'reat. Your body is going to try
to persuade you no matter what,to go back to that familiar Hey Brooks,
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that's not familiar. We should goback to what we were doing before
because that doesn't feel right. No, you have to you have to keep
that vision higher than that. Andthen, of course if we're focusing on
only on the past, if we'reonly focused on the past, then ultimately
you're gonna do more of the sameinstead of thinking about that future. Is
so getting very clear, specific ideaof where you want to go, utilizing
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things like journaling, meditation, andnoticing. The first part I think is
just noticing and having conscious awareness whenthose obstacles come up, whether it's from
the environment, something around you,whether it's an urge from the body to
try to tell you to go backto what's familiar and known. Like that
awareness first and foremost is going toget you thinking in new ways. And
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once you start doing that and youstart seeing it, you can't not see.
It's just like the red sports caranalogy. Once you see by one
and then once you see it,you're going to see more of it.
So if you start to see thatvision and you start to get up against
an obstacle that's against the grain ofthat vision and you see that vision instead,
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victory, victory, victory. Nowthat new program is going to run
on autopilot for you, and that'sgoing to become the new voice inside of
your head opposed to that victim mentalityor that feeling stuck. Yep, that's
the reticular activating So exactly, I'vetalked about many times on this podcast,
we're going to continue to find moreof what you're looking for. So I've
given this example many times on thepodcast, like right now, and everybody
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can do this. Look around andcount as many black objects as you can
find right all right time. Howdid you get? I got at least
five or six? I got Igot ten? Now, how many red
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oxects. Did you count? Yeah? Nothing? And you can replace the
colors with positive and negative situations inyour life, right, Like, if
you're always looking and focused on everythingthat's going wrong, everything that you need
to be stressed out about, you'regoing to continue to find more of those
things because then the lines start toblur. It's like, well, is
that black or is that gray?It looks a little gray, but I'm
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going to call it black because that'swhat I'm looking for, right, And
we just completely block out all ofthe positive aspects, not that they're not
there, but we're just not lookingat them, right, And that voice
in the head when we're when we'retaking action towards habit change can be very
loud because your body and your brainis like, hey, this is unfamiliar
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to us. Why don't you goback to your comfort zone. Regardless of
whether or not whether or not thatcomfort zone was beneficial for you, you
want to return to that state becausethat's your habit. So that voice can
be very loud. And I liketo remind my clients when that voice is
screaming at them to return to theirfamiliar ways, to remember their why,
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because as Victor Frankel, said inMansarch for meaning, a man who has
a strong enough why can bear almostanyhow So, when you're in those challenging
moments, those those dark places whereyou really don't want to get up and
get in the ice bath, oryou really don't want to go work out,
you remember your why why am Idoing this? And that becomes your
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north star. I have my clientscreate their MVVP mission, vision, values
and purpose, and that becomes yourtreasure. You're sure north Sorry, this
is where I'm going and why I'mgoing there? Yeah? Right, And
also to what you're saying earlier,the brain can't differentiate between what is imagined
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and like what you're envisioning versus what'sactually happening, right, So talk to
us about the power of visualization andvisor rehearsal. Yeah, and so you
were mentioning a little bit right.When you're stressed, you can't see anything
equal, you can't take any informationor feel anything equal to other and how
you're feeling. So if you're thinkingstressed, right, you're in this high
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beta brainwave pattern. And just likeif Taylor was super pissed off and I
tell him to calm down, likewhen Jeremiah drank my coffee this week.
Yeah, if I tell him tocalm down in that heightened state, he
can't take any new information in otherthan how he's feeling based off his brainwave.
If you look at a bit highbeta brainwave pattern, it's so imagine
trying to entering information. And whenI think of it as like think of
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a money counter where it's try toput more money in. It's not going
to work, but you have tolet it slow down. And first meditation
allows it to let it slow down. And getting into this from the analytical
mind into the subconscious mind, andwhen you're there, you're in a very
highly suggestible hypnotic state ultimately to adegree. And the brain is a fascinating
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thing. But the one thing thatit doesn't necessarily have unless you're conscious of
it, is a filter. Sothe brain doesn't know the difference. It
thinks you're living in a past.If you think of something negative in the
past, it believes it's living inthat past life experience and feels like that
same emotion from that past life experiencebecause it does to pause right there.
That's why when we're going through storywork, that's why we get these physical
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sensations in the body as if we'rereliving that moment, because in the brain
we are. We're in that state. Yeah, and the brain doesn't know
the difference between the emotion that's createdfrom the real life experience and the motion
that you can create through thought alone. So if you can think something enough
times, the brain and the bodybiologically, neurochemically, the neurocircuitry in your
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brain, your hormones, your geneexpression literally are gonna start to change,
and you're gonna start to act inmore familiar, more common, more normal
ways, like that specific person beforethe event actually happens. And that's visualization
at its finest. And you think, I've seen some different studies. One
of them was a group of basketballplayers shooting free throws for a month straight.
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You know, the guys who physicallydid it for a month straight improved
by twenty four percent. The individualswho just mentally rehearsed it were able to
then go out on the court andimprove twenty three percent from their original time
to the other. Then, ofcourse there's a control group, and it
just shows the power of visualization andunderstanding. And I know for myself without
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a doubt that's helped me get towhere I am and really just feel what
it would feel like around that,so that when you are in the face
of fear, it's going to feelso much more normal. You're already you've
already experienced it because you've thought itenough times that when you walk in that
discomfort it might still be there,but not to the degree that it's going
to scare you off, because yourbrain and body have already been given instructions
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on what to do next. There'sa fantastic example of Michael Phelps doing this
in the Olympics. When he dovein the water, his goggles filled with
water, and so you know,most people would, I mean I would
fucking like panic or like mess withthe goggles and try to fix them.
But because he had rehearsed it somany times, he basically did the whole
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race with his eyes basically closed andyou know you can't see. But because
he just rehearsed it so many times, he actually won. Yeah, which
is just fascinating, right, Yeah, I never heard that. That's amazing.
Yeah. And there's also examples ofstrength adaptations through just the power of
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the mind. Yeah, there's abicep curl I think study where it showed
individuals who were actually curling versus mentallythinking that they were curling weights, and
there was actually growth in their musclesfrom that alone. Is that how you
got so jacked just fucking meditating allday? I'm double I tell people,
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I say, do take the actions. You got to take the actions in
real life, but double dip inthe work meditation. It's already fast forwarding
you to get to that result aheadof time. And that's what I love
to do when I'm working with companiesis their competition doesn't know that. They
don't know this stuff. They're notwilling to seek out the time and energy
to do it. So it's like, WHOA, what if I could tell
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you what it would feel like togrow your business from ten million to one
hundred million. If that's the caseof who I'm working with, shout out
to anybody who wants to work together, because I haven't worked with a ten
million dollar client, but you knowthe potentials out there, It's already exists.
But yeah, it's can you visionwhat you need to feel, like,
how the operation needs to be run, how efficient it needs to be,
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how collaborative you and your team needto be and that alone is giving
you instructions to already like just thinkingnew ways so that when you step in
you actually can see those possibilities.And I mean you can double dip into
work and whatever it is you wantto change personally, professionally, spiritually.
However, I think that's but yeah, that's that's a mix of how I
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got so Jack, Yeah, yeah, all right, Before we get to
the last two questions, where canpeople find more about you and what you
do? For sure, the majorityof my stuff is on Instagram Pat Smith
Wellness. I also have website PatSmith Wellness, and if anybody's looking to
work together in terms of a preflike a company standpoint, there's a page
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on my website under courses for PatSmith Wellness is going to explain some of
the trainings and workshops that I dowith companies. But the majority of my
stuff will be on Instagram. Isthe best? All right? What are
you currently most excited about? Bigbreath. Excitement is a fun, fun
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emotion. I'm most excited about seeingwhere I'm at a year from now.
A year ago was when I metI'll saw Taylor for the first time or
second time in person, when wewere at the Doctor Joe Retreat, and
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I realized looking back the tremendous amountof growth I've had, you know,
patting myself on the back and actuallycelebrating that and realizing that if I can
do that in a year while stillworking a corporate job, like a full
year of my own focus on myown business with the companies that I plan
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to work with, and some ofthe retreats and things that I have planned
out in the future, I'm justit just gets me so excited to know
that I actually took the leap offaith and trusted in myself, and even
more excited to keep leaning in inthe next couple of days here at the
Immersion to still get deeper into understandmyself better because the more I do,
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the better my life gets. Andthat's that's fucking exciting. Yeah, we
got two full days left. Yeahthis is Friday, and we're just getting
started. Then we got a wholeanother day, so I'm excited for that
as well. And yeah, especiallywith the competitive advantage that you have of
being both physically and mentally shredded,because a lot, well not a lot,
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because as I've said, this isa twenty eighteen stat that seventy five
percent of Americans are overweight or obese, and since the pandemic, that number
has obviously increased. So not alot of people are physically in shape,
but it provides such a competitive advantagewhen you can be both physically and mentally
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understanding words and how your energy affectsyour physical reality. Right, Like,
that's I'm excited for you. Appreciateit to see the growth in the next
year. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna We're gonna blast off,
that's for sure. I fucking blastedoff on these key tones. I was
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thinking the same thing I must havebeen talking about. I felt it.
Yeah, all right, last question, what does thriving mean to you?
Thriving is just being my greatest selfin all areas as a friend, as
a family member, as a assomeone who respects themselves and is willing to
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focus on all areas of their life, not just their physical looks and attributes,
but their mental and emotional health,their financial health. And when you
can at least give yourself time intoevery segment of those areas, like you're
bound to thrive and each and there'sebbs and flows, so some time you'll
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be more focused on your financial healthor physical health, but knowing if you
can you know, very similar towhat Chase mentioned, right, we saw
the Captain's Code. We all gota copy of it. When you can
start to implement all of those areasthat are there at least as frequently as
possible, maybe not all of themin every day, but if you can
start to just focus on one ofthose per day, I mean, there's
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no reason not to thrive. AndI want to be that leading example.
And when I'm there, when youget calls like you know, Taylor gets
calls from former marine guides and whatnotis when you get calls from people from
your random people you haven't talked todecades, Like you know, you're you're
stepping in that lane. And I'mjust really looking forward to leaning into that
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and and I know that I'm thrivingas best as I can now because I
am leading in ato all those Yeah, and especially for all the listeners out
there, leaning into the areas thatyou're most scared of exploring, that is
where the growth lies. One ofmy favorite quotes from Stephen Pressfield is fear
tells us exactly what we need todo, and that's what most people neglect
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because there's a monster in there.Your greatest growth is on the other side
of fear. There we go,pat My purpose is to hashtag make Thriving
Standard. Thank you for coming outto the immersion and being on The Captain's
Lifestyle podcast for round two and helpingme fulfill my purpose. I make the
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standard. Appreciate all you've done LiveThe Captain's Lifestyle. Peces not COTTI at the pis
You know, drinkings five six timesa week in MDMA and cocaine pretty much
every time I was drinking basically,couldn't name a time where I didn't have
a blood in my hand. Hereyou are fully in the present moment,
your battery level, your charge levelsone hundred percent. The moment you start
worrying about what's going on tomorrow orwhat you have to do in the future,
you're like draining yourself of this energy. You're gonna attract more of those
(00:22):
things that it sounds like you probablydon't want. If you're worrying about them
or fearful of what happened in thepast, You're gonna attract more of those
in the future, Whereas if you'rein the present moment, you're gonna have
a lot more contentionality and focus onthe things that you do want. They
always tell me you won't believe whathappened, and I'm like, I believe
it. You've changed, You aredifferent than where you were before. A
couple of minutes and in the saunaafter the gym, a guided two minute
(00:44):
meditation in the sauna, I'm like, I can't. Pat Smith is joining
(01:11):
me today on tiny table talks withTata. Pat, you are a repeat
guest on the show. I firsthad you on when after you invited me
to the Doctor Joe Despends an advancedmeditation retreat down in San Diego. That
was a wonderful time. That wasactually one of the big shifts in my
life after I got to experience that, which which we're definitely gonna get into
(01:34):
today. And before we do that, we're gonna take shots. We're gonna
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cheers. Also second shot nice shoutout to key Tone IQ for being a
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Pat Smith, Hello, good morninglad. I love seeing your face and
your energy. It's you just embodythe work that you do so to begin
(02:44):
it, tell everybody about the workthat you do, and then we'll get
into a little bit of your backstoryand what brought you here. Sure.
So, currently I'm a men's healthoptimization coach and the other part of my
business is consultant for a group calledNeurochange Solutions. It's an organization run by
doctor Jo Despenza, and we takein meditation, emotional intelligence, and stress
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regulation into the workplace to really createcultures that are more productive, efficient,
collaborative. Knowing that right now inthe current business landscape that you have to
think alternatively to get new results andbetter results with such a drastically changing world
around us, and the companies thatare diving in to ultimately invest in their
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employees and develop them are the onesthat are going to be there for decades
to come, and the ones thataren't are going to fall by the wayside.
So my mission, based off mypast corporate experience, is to be
able to go into these companies toevolve them, to grow them, to
open their mind to new ways ofthinking instead of being stuck in their old
(03:53):
ways. I like the example yougave in the sauna yesterday about how companies
say that they want to increase theirrevenue, and what are they doing to
do that? The same old thingover and over again. If you want
to talk a little bit about thatand why that doesn't work, sure,
yeah, it's you know, Ithink there's an Albert Einstein quote that says,
you can't fix the you can't fixthe same problems with the same mind
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that created them. And so ifyou think of business in a sense,
we see, especially in the Americansociety, that everybody wants more, more
and more and more money, moresales, more growth, but they're not
willing to do anything differently. Sothe majority of leaders are so stuck in
their ways that the uncertainty of doingsomething differently scares them so much that they
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just keep doing the same things,but then getting upset that they haven't reached
the true success that they've they've theywant to reach in their business. And
so by investing in their employees,teaching them these emotional type skills, teaching
them meditation, teaching them breathing techniques, it actually puts them into a better
state of mind, so they canstart to receive new information, they can
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start to act on new things thatare gonna then transcend a business from where
they are now to where they reallywant to go, five, ten,
fifteen, twenty years down the road. Yeah. The definition of insanity exactly
doing the same thing exactly and expectingdifferent results. And we do the same
thing in our lives, right,yeah, outside of a business sense,
we all do this, like wesay we want this thing, but we
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keep repeating the same patterns and habitsover and over. Right, And you
know a little bit about habit change, yeah, yeah, so yeah,
before we get into the ins andouts of habit change and how to change
your energy to ultimately change your lifeand create the life that you want to
live, talk to us a littlebit about your background and your origin story,
(05:45):
Like you weren't always this optimized,no jacked, And yeah, I've
got a man, I've got aus you know right here, the Project
Pat. So that's the nickname thatall my friends back in my hometown used
to call me early on. Reallyfocused on partying all the time, right,
drugs, alcohol, used to sellall types of drugs And you know,
I don't even know if I've saidthat on a podcast before, but
(06:08):
I just telled everybody, so don'tincriminate me. But and yeah, that
was my story. From fourteen totwenty four, I was really in the
depths of drug and alcohol addiction,even though from the outside looking in things
looked normal. I had. Ihad, I played baseball the way up
until I got to college. Iwent to a state school, had a
(06:30):
really good GPA, graduated in fouryears. Somehow, while you know,
drinking five six times a week inMDMA and cocaine pretty much every time I
was drinking, and basically couldn't namea time where I didn't have a blunt
in my hand. And you know, there was some specific circumstances that came
that happened when one of my familymembers passed away that where I really hit
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rock bottom, and I had togo into the depths of myself to figure
out, what is it do Iactually want in life? And when am
I actually going to take ownership andresponsibility for my life? And when I
did that, I got really intounderstanding how stress can mentally strain our body
and emotionally strain our body. AndI realized that for so long I had
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never paid I've never I never paidattention to my mental and emotional health because
I was always numbing what I hadwith drugs and alcohol, and so that
got me really into understanding meditation anddiving deeper and working for my working on
myself, and then over the courseof time, just figuring out, Okay,
if I felt that bad at rockbottom, what's the opposite of that?
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And the opposite is how healthy,how fulfilled, how like focused can
I be? And that that's whatreally got me on the journey to where
I am today and where I stillplan to go. I remember, that's
what brought you to me because youstarted as a client of mine. Yeah,
just how can I optimize my life? Right? And one of the
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things that we talked about that hasbeen brought up here many times is you
were at the time working a jobthat you weren't fulfilled with, that you
knew you weren't going to spend therest of your life and that was a
big sticking point for you. Ohyeah, right, So talk to us
about how you were able to recentlycome to the decision that you were done
with that and now onto what youdo now. Yeah. It's actually a
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funny story because, like Taylor andI said, we started working together I
think it was in January of lastyear, and we really talked about you
know, talk about optimizing your lifeand my nutrition, my movement, my
meditations. They were good. Iwas making good money too at my old
job, right, multiple six figures, And you know, there was still
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that nagging voice in the back ofmy head, like this isn't what you're
supposed to be doing the rest ofyour life. And fast forward a few
months later, Taylor and I metin person for the second time and went
to the Joda Spenzer Retreat. Well, we first met in Virginia. Yeah
that I was saying. That wasour second time in person, and I
trusted him enough that I let himstay in my hotel room for the entire
week. So and that's a wholedifferent story, but it was. It
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was. It was a great week, by the way, but it just
opened my eyes to everything that wasavailable. And that actually brought me into
uh seeing the organization Neural Change Solutions, because they kind of were promoting it
there at the week long retreat,and it started to get me thinking about,
Wow, I see these same needsin the company that I was in,
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and I was like, maybe Ineed to be that person to really
help them, because I really understandwhat this work is about. So fast
forward a few months later, andI had at the time, this was
in October, late September, Octoberof last year, and I had I
had an inclination that no matter what, by the end of the year,
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by the end of last year,I was going to quit my job,
no matter what. And so Ihad been saving up money. And then
I was actually at another week longretreat, doctor Joe Spend's retreat at the
end of September and October. Andas Taylor knows, the walking meditations that
we do are very powerful because youstart walking and acting as if you're already
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living a life before it actually happens, and that feeling is it's kind of
indescribable powerful. And so the firstday, I you know, I didn't
necessarily take vacation that week from myjob, but I was also working remote
and I always handled my stuff,nothing ever got done. I never kind
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of slipped past. I ever goteverything done, had a great sales territory,
highest in the company, pretty close. And I just remember that that
morning we were doing walking meditation andI was sitting there and I was in
pure bliss, sun shining down onme, and I kind of just got
this voice that whispered to me,and looking back, I think it was
a voice of whether it was myselfor my cousin who passed away, and
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it said, why are you alwayswasting your time on other people's dreams but
you won't waste it on yours,not waste it, but won't take time
for your own dreams. What makesyou think that if you can't be successful
at chasing someone else's dreams, thatyou can't be successful at chasing yours.
And I was like, damn,Like okay, and then I didn't have
my phone. I have my phoneon airplane mode. We went to breakfast.
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Next thing you know, I openedmy phone on up and I put
it off airplane mode. And Ihad been blown up by everyone in my
company, which to me was surprisingbecause I get stuff handled. They never
really have to worry about me.And there is just some circumstances that it
was like it was an opportunity.And we talked about this yesterday that I
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do have something for me to workthrough is when I have to go talk
to someone about something tough, man, I really feel it there in the
throat chakra. But it was likethe situation that happened and some of the
questions like, hey, do youeven enjoy this job? That was asked
to me by my boss and myowner was like opening the door wide open
for me to be like, Yo, now's your time. You don't even
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have to step into the uncomfort becauseit's already sitting there waiting. And I
pretty much told them, hey,let's just cut to the chase. By
the end of the year, Iwas gonna quit my job anyways. I'm
just gonna put my two weeks innow, and like this, this weight
like fell off, and you know, they asked, if you know what,
what would it take for me tostay there? Money, whatever,
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And I told him that's not that'snot what it's about anymore. You know,
I was making multiple six figures.It's not about the money. It's
about me feeling fulfilled. And Ijust had turned thirty a couple of months
ago, and so I was Iwas thinking to myself, if I don't
do it now, I'm more thanlikely going to trick myself into thinking that
I'm never going to be able todo it, especially down the line if
I look into marriage and kids.And so that's what led me to really
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just taking that leap. And Iwill say that my life has changed dramatically
for the better since then. Yeah, it's a it's a noticeable difference.
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so before we continue on, Iwant to take it back to before,
back to when you were Project Pat. Yeah, before the path that's
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sitting before me. Now, yeah, you said you weren't focusing on your
mental health. What were you focusingon at that point? Everything I could
do too to distract myself from thoseemotions. Unknowingly, I didn't even know
that it was a thing, andso all I was worried about was,
you know, it's like they sayto the rap songs, it's like fuck
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bitches get money. I was kindof really what was serious? I mean,
like, you know, smoking weed, drinking, partying, like doing
anything that you can think of toliterally distract myself from ever facing some of
the things that we worked through yesterday, right, pain and suff pain and
suffering, but pain and stories andsituations as a child with parents splitting up,
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and other things that you know,unconsciously I didn't even realize were affecting
me. And so that's all,that's all I spent my time doing,
I didn't you know. But thenon the on at the same token,
I was also making sure that Iput on a nice facade for my parents
of getting good grades and playing sports. Now it didn't mean that I didn't
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come reaking of weed every night intothe house, but hey, I got
to practice, and I got goodgrades and I could get into school,
and you know, I kind oftry to cover it up to that sense.
But looking back, I realized howdetrimental the things I was doing was
pushing me. So the gap betweenme understanding my emotions every time was pushing
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me further and further away, youknow, year after year, blunt after
blunt, whatever, trip after trip, drink after drink, it just it
just took me so much further away. So when I had to come back
to further on in late or earlymy early twenties, like I was in
a really down bad spot mentally.Yeah, those are you guys who know
my story. I can relate tothis. When I was in the Marine
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Corps, like I was in thebest shape of my life, Like I
was fit as fuck, and onthe outside I was living a great life
right like I was a marine.I looked good, I had a great
family. But inside I was notdepressed. But I would frequently say that
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I hate my life. And aswe know the power of words, that
is what I was affirming. Thisfucking sucks. I hate my life.
I would dread getting back on theplane after taking leave from the Marine Corps
and having to go back to base. It was just this feeling of like
emptiness and apathy, like I didn'tcare if the plane crash, Like I
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knew that what I was going backto fucking suck. So I was like,
what's what's the point? Right?And you know this the diagram that
doctor Joe puts in becoming supernatural ofthe person with you know, the energy
radiating on them, and it's youknow, all of these external factors texts,
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emails, work, relationships, cartroubles, groceries, the news,
social media. So it sounds likeyou and I were both placing all of
our energy and attention on these externalfactors, and because of that, we
had no energy for ourselves, whichis why we were in that state.
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Yact, you want to talk alittle bit about how where you place your
attention is? Where is where youplace your energy? Yeah, I just
I looked at a dive very similarlywhere No, it's like you here in
the middle. This is how Iat least imagine it or pictured it in
my head. Is you know,here you are fully in the present moment,
and your your battery level, yourcharge levels one hundred percent. The
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moment you start worrying about what's goingon tomorrow or what you have to do
in the future, and you startthinking about what that person did to you
a few days ago, two yearsago, ten years ago, twenty years
ago, you're like draining yourself ofthis energy, and so now you don't
really have any true energy to focuson the things that you do want because
your battery level is so drained down. So you're going to attract more of
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those things that it sounds like youprobably don't want if you're worrying about them
or fearful of what happened in thepast, you're going to attract more of
those in the future, or asif you're in the present moment, you're
gonna have a lot more intentionality andfocus on the things that you do want
because you're not worried about what's goingon later or what happened yesterday. You're
fully focused in That is a vibrationalfrequency, and I mean, you know
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it's it's definitely something that it can'tbe seen. When we were talking about
it in the sauna, right,there's like a sixth sense out there.
It's just this frequency and that youcan't you can't see it, but you
can feel it. And when yousurrender into the present moment, those things
match what you had to what youhave to offer. And I think Nate's
breath work last night was a greatexample of it. You know, him
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and I discussed, you know,do you want to do a meditation afterwards
and then breathwork first? And thenI went up to him and mentioned to
him that, hey, you know, why don't you just go ahead and
do the breath work and the meditationthat I had written down, which I'm
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show. So breathing in through theroute basically like he was saying, bringing
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in through the kind of through thethrough your root chakra up into your upper
torso, through the heart, throughthe chest, out through the rest,
through the top of the head,and let it go into the universe,
putting your hand on your heart,opening your heart like it's like he had
read this book before it actually happened. But it's these synchronicities, these things
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that are weird, which aren't necessarilyweird. It's just you know, when
you're sitting there surrendering into the presentmoment, that stuff plays out all the
time. And I noticed it withmy clients. I notice it with myself
and my own situations. I mean, there's endless counts of where that's happened
to me and where that's happened toclients, And they always tell me,
you won't believe what happened, andI'm like, I believe it. You've
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changed. You are different than whereyou were before. You're not focused in
worried about what's going on. You'rejust settled into your body, comfortable and
trusting that the universe has so muchin store for you. And that energy,
just that belief is telling the energy. Okay, they accept in our
believing that we're there. Now weneed to kind of gift them to that.
And there's things that pop up inmany different ways. Yeah, there
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really are no coincidences in my experience. What I used to think were coincidences,
now I just see as of course, Yeah, of course that happened
because that is what I was drawingin. Joe, who's videoing right now.
Shout out to Joe Buchanan Linley.There before the immersion, some logistical
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things fell through with the videographer whowas supposed to attend. I reached out
to Joe like a few days beforethe immersion, and it was like,
hey, and I had just methim at the time. We just recorded
podcasts together. I knew he didvideography and editing. I was like,
hey, would you be available tofly out in a few days to come
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film the immersion? And he hadjust been let go of his job,
and it was like just this perfectserendipitous energy, like of course this happened
right now. Yeah, and herehe is fucking loving the experience as he's
nodding his head. So yeah,it's of course these happen for a reason.
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Like people think that it's random orcoincidence, it's not like it's meant
to be. And there's so manyof those little moments that have been happening
here. Yeah, I'm going tojust share a quick story, so very
similarly me working with companies. WhenI started to getting into it, you
know, I noticed myself getting somewhatanxious or worried about when am I going
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to be able to start working withcompanies and sharing this information. And I
started meditating on it and just relaxingknowing that it's well on its way.
And I'll be honest, I didit for a couple of days through meditation,
and then one morning I opened myemail and I'm open my computer and
my email and the email address isspecific to my neuro Change Solutions email account,
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which not many people at all haveemail address, and I get this
email from this gentleman and I don'tknow who he is. And he messages
me and say, hey, Ifound your email address on the NCS website.
I'm local to Charlotte, and I'minterested in bringing the work that you
do into my company. I'm like, oh my god, like I was
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just thinking on this, And evenfurther, he says, Hey, I'm
located in Dilworth, which is aneighborhood in Charlotte of all the neighborhoods of
a town of two, you know, a million to two hundred a million
to two million people in the greaterCharlotte area. And it's the same neighborhood
I live in right a few blocksdown the road. Hey, maybe we
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could get on a call. AndI'm like, no, maybe tomorrow.
We meet for a coffee and he'slike okay, and we start hitting off
perfect right, this isn't it.So I'm like, okay, well that
just fell in my lap. Theguy's right down the street. He's got
his own business. It's a functionalmedicine business, which is like right up
my alley. We really got toconnect it off. So I start training
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his group in himself, and Iwas chatting with him a little bit,
and they're moving from a specific businessmodel to a new business model, and
I start talking to him about,you know, what he wants for his
company, and he really wanted individualsto step out and start taking charge on
their own within the business without withoutwith him being a little more hands off.
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And there's a fifty five and oldercommunity that's keep being built by me
into a luxury condo building, andhe is all focused on health and wellness
and longevity. He's like, itwould be a great thing to be partners
with those types of buildings because wealready know those are our prime demographics.
And I said, yeah, that'dbe you know, that'd be wonderful.
Well, we're there with about sixor seven of his team members. We
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go through the training, it goesgreat. Then I go into their shop
a couple of days about a weeklater, and I go in and I'm
talking with the owner, and thenafterwards I have one of the gals grabbed
me and she said, hey,do you mind chatting with me behind the
building. And I'm thinking, okay, sure, Like maybe she had some
questions about the training, and shesaid she really enjoyed the training so much
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that she was asking if I doanything personally one on one. And the
majority of the people that I workwith are men, but I of course
wanted to hear her out one seewhat she was getting used to Fast forward,
we start working together two three weekslater, and I asked her how
things are going at work, andshe's the wellness coordinator and she said,
oh, well, I'm having ameeting later. I said, oh,
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yeah, you having a meeting withShe said, well, the wellness director
or the director of this fifty fiveand older building is called in asking to
speak to me to find out ifwe could become partners for their new condo
building that's going up, which islike right next to my building. And
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I said, is the name ofit the Village? And she said,
well yeah. And I'm like,you know that your owner and I were
talking about that in the presence ofyou, and you weren't even aware of
the conversation. And they called youout of nowhere to find out if that
you could be their preferred company towork with and a wellness and she's like
wait what And I'm like, yeah, does he even know about The owner
didn't even know about it. Shedidn't know about it, and it was
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just like the weirdest thing. Itwas like these things were just starting to
fall in her lap. And Inoticed her energy because she was so she
wasn't so worried about when things weregoing to happen. She just knew they
were going to happen. And itwas almost like I heard a guy in
the sun and the other day sayingthat you know, when you're worried or
you're anxious, you're literally blocking yourblessings from coming in because you can't see
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those possibilities that are right out infront of you. And it was the
same thing for her. And whenshe started to drop into the energy to
trust herself, that stuff just fellright in her lap. And I was
I couldn't believe it to be true. But then I'm thinking, this happens
way too often, and I onehundred percent believe it. Of course,
of course, yeah right, youcan't you can't create from a place of
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stress. And last, yeah right, so of course, change your energy,
change your life quite literally, SoI want to bring it back a
little bit. So you and Iwere both physically shredded and in good shape,
but mentally we weren't. You're wearinga sweatshirt that says mentally shredded.
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Yeah, I shout out to myboy Chris and Charlotte. This is his
mental health awareness company, so nice. So how can we We've already covered
a lot of it, but alot of guys are focused on getting physically
shredded, right, and not thatthat's bad, right, nothing is either
good or bad, but thinking makesit so being physically fit is great,
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Like, that's fantastic, And Ithink take out the thing. Too much
of the focus, energy and attentiongoes into looking a certain way but without
feeling a certain way, because alot of people want to start going to
the gym to feel the way thatthey imagine that the person with the six
pack fuels. Right. But asyou and I have both personally experienced,
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we were physically shredded, but mentallywe're like fuck this right, right,
So we've already covered a lot ofit, But how are some other ways
that we can become mentally shredded?I mean, one of the things happened
yesterday, right? Can you beas vulnerable as you can and break down
that barrier? Because that first andforemost is going to get you focused on
your emotions that maybe you were blockingfor so long. And you know,
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using as Chase was talking about usingthe gym as therapy, Yep, that's
not the case. You have togo inward. So it can be as
much as you know what we experiencedyesterday with writing out your stories, meditating,
sitting with yourself, understanding your emotions. I mean, there's so many
tools, but I like to utilizethose. And to your point is,
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you know, you can put someonewith very little confidence in red sports car
and they can be confident for alittle bit, but the moment they get
out of a sports card, they'renot there. So it's it's almost too
The way I think about it islike you have to feel what that feels
like ahead of the actual event,especially with whatever it is emotion you're trying
to reach in the gym. Youwant to be confident. That's what you
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know, a lot of people think, oh, once you're shredded, you're
this super confident guy. But ifyou go in there and you're just covering
it up and covering up, you'reactually distancing yourself from understanding your emotions.
So when I think and what workedfor me. My personal story is one.
It really just started with a gratitudejournal, right, I was writing
out, Okay, what are thethings I'm grateful for in the morning,
just three things. I was like, I thought I was like killing it
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and that's a great start. Andsame thing when I was meditating a couple
minutes and in the sauna after thegym, a guided two minute meditation in
the sauna, I'm like, fuck, yeah, like I'm killing it.
Something is always better, right,It's like one step at a time.
Right, it was up climbing thismountain that we talk about, but it's
one step of the time. It'sno big jump or leap, and that's
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what it starts to build up.So the consistency and the intentionality of doing
it and believing that it's going towork for you are I think like the
two or three things that are gonnacan get individuals to reach their meat.
They're sorry, peak mental fitness.Yeah, that's what I to reach their
meat. Yeah, reached their meat. That that hasn't been a problem for
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me. I've always been able tosee it, to reach it, to
do whatever I please with it.He wasn't saying that after the ice earlier.
Yeah, little shriveled, little shriveled. Yeah. The journey to the
top of the mountain begins with withone step. But oftentimes we look up
at the top of the mountain,we see, fuck, that's going to
be a bitch, and we failto see the one step that we have
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to take, which is very simple. Right, you look up, you're
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to get yours today. Back tothe show. How was that story work
session yesterday with with Chasin Dave?You tell me how you thought it went
for me? Phenomenally? What whatunlocks there for you? Or what has
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changed from yesterday to today? Imean today, yesterday was a great day,
right, you know, I thinkI told y'all y'all saw me in
tears, which I don't necessarily cryoften. I hadn't cried and I couldn't
tell you in a while. Butit just reminded me that the stories and
the specific circumstances that I've been through, whether they seem trivial to some people
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based off what other people are goingthrough, they're my own and and I
don't have to live by those Andyou know, Nate took me through.
You know that we had the breakthe breath work last night and which was
fucking phenomenal that way. And it'snot here, but that was amazing,
Nate, wherever you're at, Nate, thank you. Yeah, And it
was just it just definitely reminded methat when you can surrender into your body
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and surrender, that things are gonnawork out exactly for you. I mean,
things start to come up right.I start to realize that as I
mentioned the stories that were once withme, especially about love and about opening
the heart and letting love in,we're all things based off me being stuck
on something that happened to me inthe past. And we talked about it.
If you're if you're stuck on theways in thinking of the past,
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you can't step into a new futurebecause you're stuck in the past, and
if you're thinking or feeling in thepast, you're not in the present moment.
And yeah, that just that reallyhelped me. And it also reminded
me that the more I trust myself, the more I'm vulnerable, the more
I open up, and the moreI have my own back and be my
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own cheerleader. Like, there's nothere's no limit to any of the possibilities
that are out there for me andwhatever it is I want in my life.
Yeah, the only limits are theones that we consciously or subconsciously place
on ourselves. And that's the powerof the words and the story works.
Yeah, we've been telling ourselves thisstory that has not been useful to us,
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Right, It's kept us in thisposition of stuckness or hurt or haunted.
And until we address that story,we're just going to keep reliving the
same patterns expecting different results. Yeah, And to that point, one of
the things that I noticed, especiallywhen I was coming out of being or
kind of really addicted to drugs andalcohol, was I didn't realize that those
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thoughts that I was having. Everytime you have a thought, you produce
this chemical and if if you havea negative thought, you produce a negative
chemtmical. And it wasn't that Iwas just addicted to the chemicals of drugs
and alcohol. I was addicted tothe chemicals of my thoughts. And it
was this such a hardwired loop thatit was that automatic program that I didn't
even realize it was going on.And so it just reminded me that if
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you can have a negative thought,you're going to produce negative chemicals. But
if you can start to think thegood thoughts, you're going to start to
develop the good chemicals, and thatcan start to rewrite the program of how
you want to feel on a dayto day basis, because if people don't,
then they're constantly living by that negativechemical and that chemical is sending a
stress response, just like if youbreak your leg. It's the same stress
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response as if you break your leg, as if you feel that emotional stress
in your body, and in thatyou're moving into these higher, higher brain
waves and you can't even fathom andBrooks was talking about, right, you
have a veil. You can't evenfathom that there's another possibility other than the
one that you're seeing because you're soin this heightened state unbeknownst to you.
But you're in this heightened state thatyou can't even accept any new information.
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And when you drop that barrier tobecome vulnerable, and of course through the
breath work, it really allows youto get out of this sympathetic into the
pair of sympathetic. I mean thatveil gets removed. The doors that you
see of all the opportunities come wideopen, and they present themselves to you
in a way that is is aI guess priceless, indescribable, sometimes feels
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too too real to be true.Almost. Yeah. A lot of people
are addicted to living in a familiarhell, yeah, and scared of going
into an unfamiliar heaven. Right,So we're just stuck in these these habits
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and patterns and negative feedback loops thatthat keep us in the familiar hell.
But it's okay because it's what weknow and doing anything different is the unknown.
Right. So I imagine we've we'vetalked a lot about it. Sure
ready, But what are some someaction items that you recommend people take if
they are stuck in these negative feedbackloops? Sure? Well, one I
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would say, right out where you'retrying to go and I look at it
as this. You know, thisis based off some of the work with
doctor Joe de Spender, but it'swe call it the river of change.
So you can go from the oldself to the new self. But to
get from the old self to thenew self, you've got to get through
the river of change. And theriver of change has some very fucking choppy
(35:30):
waters. There's gonna be some logsin the river, and there's gonna be
some blocks, and you might getstuck and they might can rap it.
There might not be a current foryou to move along with. But first
and foremost, find out where you'retrying to go how you know, write
that down, figure it out,get very crystal clear, very specific on
where you want to go. Specificit is key, yeah, very specific.
I mean you have to give yourbrain and body instructions on where it
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wants to go. If you want. You know, someone told me,
hey, if you want more money, I can give you a dollar,
but that doesn't do anything for you. Right, how much money do you
want? How do you want tothink, act and feel? Who do
you want to be around? Wheredo you want to be? Like?
Getting crystal clear on that vision andhaving that vision as that guiding light,
because when you enter in and havethat vision, then you can utilize that
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as your guide, guidance point,or guide guide through life. Because then
there's gonna be specific obstacles that comeup from your environment. Certain people that
are gonna come up. They're gonnatry to persuade you say, oh,
you shouldn't do this or this istoo hard. Nope, you have to
hold the vision higher than where they'reat. Your body is going to try
to persuade you no matter what,to go back to that familiar Hey Brooks,
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that's not familiar. We should goback to what we were doing before
because that doesn't feel right. No, you have to you have to keep
that vision higher than that. Andthen, of course if we're focusing on
only on the past, if we'reonly focused on the past, then ultimately
you're gonna do more of the sameinstead of thinking about that future. Is
so getting very clear, specific ideaof where you want to go, utilizing
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things like journaling, meditation, andnoticing. The first part I think is
just noticing and having conscious awareness whenthose obstacles come up, whether it's from
the environment, something around you,whether it's an urge from the body to
try to tell you to go backto what's familiar and known. Like that
awareness first and foremost is going toget you thinking in new ways. And
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once you start doing that and youstart seeing it, you can't not see.
It's just like the red sports caranalogy. Once you see by one
and then once you see it,you're going to see more of it.
So if you start to see thatvision and you start to get up against
an obstacle that's against the grain ofthat vision and you see that vision instead,
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victory, victory, victory. Nowthat new program is going to run
on autopilot for you, and that'sgoing to become the new voice inside of
your head opposed to that victim mentalityor that feeling stuck. Yep, that's
the reticular activating So exactly, I'vetalked about many times on this podcast,
we're going to continue to find moreof what you're looking for. So I've
given this example many times on thepodcast, like right now, and everybody
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can do this. Look around andcount as many black objects as you can
find right all right time. Howdid you get? I got at least
five or six? I got Igot ten? Now, how many red
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oxects. Did you count? Yeah? Nothing? And you can replace the
colors with positive and negative situations inyour life, right, Like, if
you're always looking and focused on everythingthat's going wrong, everything that you need
to be stressed out about, you'regoing to continue to find more of those
things because then the lines start toblur. It's like, well, is
that black or is that gray?It looks a little gray, but I'm
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going to call it black because that'swhat I'm looking for, right, And
we just completely block out all ofthe positive aspects, not that they're not
there, but we're just not lookingat them, right, And that voice
in the head when we're when we'retaking action towards habit change can be very
loud because your body and your brainis like, hey, this is unfamiliar
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to us. Why don't you goback to your comfort zone. Regardless of
whether or not whether or not thatcomfort zone was beneficial for you, you
want to return to that state becausethat's your habit. So that voice can
be very loud. And I liketo remind my clients when that voice is
screaming at them to return to theirfamiliar ways, to remember their why,
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because as Victor Frankel, said inMansarch for meaning, a man who has
a strong enough why can bear almostanyhow So, when you're in those challenging
moments, those those dark places whereyou really don't want to get up and
get in the ice bath, oryou really don't want to go work out,
you remember your why why am Idoing this? And that becomes your
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north star. I have my clientscreate their MVVP mission, vision, values
and purpose, and that becomes yourtreasure. You're sure north Sorry, this
is where I'm going and why I'mgoing there? Yeah? Right, And
also to what you're saying earlier,the brain can't differentiate between what is imagined
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and like what you're envisioning versus what'sactually happening, right, So talk to
us about the power of visualization andvisor rehearsal. Yeah, and so you
were mentioning a little bit right.When you're stressed, you can't see anything
equal, you can't take any informationor feel anything equal to other and how
you're feeling. So if you're thinkingstressed, right, you're in this high
(40:35):
beta brainwave pattern. And just likeif Taylor was super pissed off and I
tell him to calm down, likewhen Jeremiah drank my coffee this week.
Yeah, if I tell him tocalm down in that heightened state, he
can't take any new information in otherthan how he's feeling based off his brainwave.
If you look at a bit highbeta brainwave pattern, it's so imagine
trying to entering information. And whenI think of it as like think of
(40:58):
a money counter where it's try toput more money in. It's not going
to work, but you have tolet it slow down. And first meditation
allows it to let it slow down. And getting into this from the analytical
mind into the subconscious mind, andwhen you're there, you're in a very
highly suggestible hypnotic state ultimately to adegree. And the brain is a fascinating
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thing. But the one thing thatit doesn't necessarily have unless you're conscious of
it, is a filter. Sothe brain doesn't know the difference. It
thinks you're living in a past.If you think of something negative in the
past, it believes it's living inthat past life experience and feels like that
same emotion from that past life experiencebecause it does to pause right there.
That's why when we're going through storywork, that's why we get these physical
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sensations in the body as if we'rereliving that moment, because in the brain
we are. We're in that state. Yeah, and the brain doesn't know
the difference between the emotion that's createdfrom the real life experience and the motion
that you can create through thought alone. So if you can think something enough
times, the brain and the bodybiologically, neurochemically, the neurocircuitry in your
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brain, your hormones, your geneexpression literally are gonna start to change,
and you're gonna start to act inmore familiar, more common, more normal
ways, like that specific person beforethe event actually happens. And that's visualization
at its finest. And you think, I've seen some different studies. One
of them was a group of basketballplayers shooting free throws for a month straight.
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You know, the guys who physicallydid it for a month straight improved
by twenty four percent. The individualswho just mentally rehearsed it were able to
then go out on the court andimprove twenty three percent from their original time
to the other. Then, ofcourse there's a control group, and it
just shows the power of visualization andunderstanding. And I know for myself without
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a doubt that's helped me get towhere I am and really just feel what
it would feel like around that,so that when you are in the face
of fear, it's going to feelso much more normal. You're already you've
already experienced it because you've thought itenough times that when you walk in that
discomfort it might still be there,but not to the degree that it's going
to scare you off, because yourbrain and body have already been given instructions
(43:12):
on what to do next. There'sa fantastic example of Michael Phelps doing this
in the Olympics. When he dovein the water, his goggles filled with
water, and so you know,most people would, I mean I would
fucking like panic or like mess withthe goggles and try to fix them.
But because he had rehearsed it somany times, he basically did the whole
(43:32):
race with his eyes basically closed andyou know you can't see. But because
he just rehearsed it so many times, he actually won. Yeah, which
is just fascinating, right, Yeah, I never heard that. That's amazing.
Yeah. And there's also examples ofstrength adaptations through just the power of
(43:54):
the mind. Yeah, there's abicep curl I think study where it showed
individuals who were actually curling versus mentallythinking that they were curling weights, and
there was actually growth in their musclesfrom that alone. Is that how you
got so jacked just fucking meditating allday? I'm double I tell people,
(44:14):
I say, do take the actions. You got to take the actions in
real life, but double dip inthe work meditation. It's already fast forwarding
you to get to that result aheadof time. And that's what I love
to do when I'm working with companiesis their competition doesn't know that. They
don't know this stuff. They're notwilling to seek out the time and energy
to do it. So it's like, WHOA, what if I could tell
(44:36):
you what it would feel like togrow your business from ten million to one
hundred million. If that's the caseof who I'm working with, shout out
to anybody who wants to work together, because I haven't worked with a ten
million dollar client, but you knowthe potentials out there, It's already exists.
But yeah, it's can you visionwhat you need to feel, like,
how the operation needs to be run, how efficient it needs to be,
(44:57):
how collaborative you and your team needto be and that alone is giving
you instructions to already like just thinkingnew ways so that when you step in
you actually can see those possibilities.And I mean you can double dip into
work and whatever it is you wantto change personally, professionally, spiritually.
However, I think that's but yeah, that's that's a mix of how I
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got so Jack, Yeah, yeah, all right, Before we get to
the last two questions, where canpeople find more about you and what you
do? For sure, the majorityof my stuff is on Instagram Pat Smith
Wellness. I also have website PatSmith Wellness, and if anybody's looking to
work together in terms of a preflike a company standpoint, there's a page
(45:39):
on my website under courses for PatSmith Wellness is going to explain some of
the trainings and workshops that I dowith companies. But the majority of my
stuff will be on Instagram. Isthe best? All right? What are
you currently most excited about? Bigbreath. Excitement is a fun, fun
(46:07):
emotion. I'm most excited about seeingwhere I'm at a year from now.
A year ago was when I metI'll saw Taylor for the first time or
second time in person, when wewere at the Doctor Joe Retreat, and
(46:30):
I realized looking back the tremendous amountof growth I've had, you know,
patting myself on the back and actuallycelebrating that and realizing that if I can
do that in a year while stillworking a corporate job, like a full
year of my own focus on myown business with the companies that I plan
(46:52):
to work with, and some ofthe retreats and things that I have planned
out in the future, I'm justit just gets me so excited to know
that I actually took the leap offaith and trusted in myself, and even
more excited to keep leaning in inthe next couple of days here at the
Immersion to still get deeper into understandmyself better because the more I do,
(47:15):
the better my life gets. Andthat's that's fucking exciting. Yeah, we
got two full days left. Yeahthis is Friday, and we're just getting
started. Then we got a wholeanother day, so I'm excited for that
as well. And yeah, especiallywith the competitive advantage that you have of
being both physically and mentally shredded,because a lot, well not a lot,
(47:37):
because as I've said, this isa twenty eighteen stat that seventy five
percent of Americans are overweight or obese, and since the pandemic, that number
has obviously increased. So not alot of people are physically in shape,
but it provides such a competitive advantagewhen you can be both physically and mentally
(48:00):
understanding words and how your energy affectsyour physical reality. Right, Like,
that's I'm excited for you. Appreciateit to see the growth in the next
year. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna We're gonna blast off,
that's for sure. I fucking blastedoff on these key tones. I was
(48:20):
thinking the same thing I must havebeen talking about. I felt it.
Yeah, all right, last question, what does thriving mean to you?
Thriving is just being my greatest selfin all areas as a friend, as
a family member, as a assomeone who respects themselves and is willing to
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focus on all areas of their life, not just their physical looks and attributes,
but their mental and emotional health,their financial health. And when you
can at least give yourself time intoevery segment of those areas, like you're
bound to thrive and each and there'sebbs and flows, so some time you'll
(49:15):
be more focused on your financial healthor physical health, but knowing if you
can you know, very similar towhat Chase mentioned, right, we saw
the Captain's Code. We all gota copy of it. When you can
start to implement all of those areasthat are there at least as frequently as
possible, maybe not all of themin every day, but if you can
start to just focus on one ofthose per day, I mean, there's
(49:37):
no reason not to thrive. AndI want to be that leading example.
And when I'm there, when youget calls like you know, Taylor gets
calls from former marine guides and whatnotis when you get calls from people from
your random people you haven't talked todecades, Like you know, you're you're
stepping in that lane. And I'mjust really looking forward to leaning into that
(49:59):
and and I know that I'm thrivingas best as I can now because I
am leading in ato all those Yeah, and especially for all the listeners out
there, leaning into the areas thatyou're most scared of exploring, that is
where the growth lies. One ofmy favorite quotes from Stephen Pressfield is fear
tells us exactly what we need todo, and that's what most people neglect
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because there's a monster in there.Your greatest growth is on the other side
of fear. There we go,pat My purpose is to hashtag make Thriving
Standard. Thank you for coming outto the immersion and being on The Captain's
Lifestyle podcast for round two and helpingme fulfill my purpose. I make the
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standard. Appreciate all you've done LiveThe Captain's Lifestyle. Peces not COTTI at the pis
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