Rescue Yourself, Rescue Others, and Live Fulfilled (Pilots To The Rescue)

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This episode of The Captain's Lifestyle podcastis my first reposted interview. I had
Michael on the show back in twentytwenty one, episode eighty eight. During
that interview, he mentioned he'd liketo have me come on one of the
rescue flights for Pilots to the Rescue. Took a few years due to our
busy travel schedules, but we're finallyable to make it happen earlier this year.

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You can watch the entire experience ofthe seven Dog Rescue now on Living
the Captain's Lifestyle on YouTube. SoI figured what better time to repost this
interview so you can learn more aboutMichael, his personal development journey, and
ultimately why he started Pilots to theRescue. But first, I want to
tell you about a few of thetravel hacks that I used to reduce the
stress of flying. Because when wefly, we're being exposed to extremely high

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levels of electro magnetic fields, somuch so that airline workers are actually classified
as radiation workers. So Michael askedme about ways to reduce the stress of
travel. This is what I toldhim. One of the key negative effects
associated with prolonged mure is oxidative stress. Other complications of m exposure include the
opening of what are called calcium channelsin the brain, along with an increased

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use of magnesium, calcium, andzinc, leading to depleted levels of these
crucial nutrients. Calcium channels exist inthe body to selectively allow calcium ions into
our cells, which are charge moleculesthat play an important role in cell activity
and function. They help with communicationbetween the cells and affect all stages of
our cell's life cycles. This systemis tightly regulated, so when these channels

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begin opening abnormally due to EMF radiation, it can lead to symptoms such as
headaches, irritability, fatigue, insomnia, and more. Natural remedies for this
include protecting yourself from EMFs and supplementingwith magnesium. Magnesium is a crucial nutrient
for protection against EMFs because it isinvolved in over six hundred chemical processes in

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the body, including the support ofseveral antioxidant enzymes. With magnesium acting to
fuel our antioxidant enzymes, it ultimatelyhas the ability to decrease oxidative stress due
to sustained EMAF exposure. In addition, magnesium acts as a natural calcium channel
blocker. Beyond magnesium's role in improvingantioxidant capacity and calcium channel blocking. It

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regulates neurotransmitters and enables us to transitionaway from our fright or flight reactions and
into a calm or peaceful state.In fact, the calming effect of magnesium
is so significant that it has beencoined the original chill pill. So for
those struggling with poor slid quality andimpaired immunity due to stress, EMFs or
inflammation, magnesium supplementation is key,especially because eighty percent of us are deficient

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in it, as it's nearly impossibleto get adequate amounts from diet alone due
to poor farming practices depleting our soilof nutrients. I use Magnesium Breakthrough,
which combines a seven forms of bioavailablemagnesium for maximum benefit. I take two
caps before flying and three caps anhour before bed. It's my number one
recommended supplements and one of the thingsI make sure to travel with. To

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experience these ship pills for yourself,head to mag Breakthrough dot com, slash
tailor or click the link in theshow notes. Two other things I always
travel with are my Lamb's clothing andAERA's devices, both of which protect me
from EMFs. Lamb's clothing is madeof silver fiber, which blocks ninety nine
percent of EMPs. This is whyif you wear it through security, you're

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going to get padded down because itshows up as metal. I recommend getting
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another travel essential I always have onme. In fact, I gave mine
to Michael during our flight. Asyou can see in the show, they
work by modulating chaotic energy from theEMFs, neutralizing their effect on the body.
I have on my phone, computer, Wi Fi router, and always
one around my neck. The oneI've got on now is their Life Tune
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Hello, and welcome on board anotherepisode of the Captain's Lifestyle Podcast. This
is your Captain speaking Taylor Morgan.On today's we have another special guest.
His name is Michael Schneider. Michaelis the founder and executive director AKAA,
Top Dog of Pilots to the Rescue, a five oh one c three nonprofit

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that he founded back in twenty fifteento combine his love of aviation as well
as saving animals. Michael has overten years of experience as a private instrument
related rated pilot, with more thansix hundred hours when he's not flying.
He enjoyed spending time with his wife, four boys, and his ninety pound

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rescue dog, Michael. Welcome tothe show. Hey, thanks, thanks
for having me. I appreciate it, of course. So, as we
were just talking about before we startedrecording, we kind of went back and
forth a few times on scheduling this. But I gotta say, you have
given the most badass reason forever needingto reschedule. The first reason was that

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you were doing a rescue that day. That's right, Yeah, that Trump's
almost anything. And then the secondreason is the family that Trump's even rescuing.
Yes, I'm glad that you givelegitimate reasons. Both of those are
amazing. So now let's get intothat. Well, before we get into
that, just go ahead, givea brief little background about yourself personally.

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Sure thing. Yeah, I'm fortyfour years old, I'm married with four
boys five and under, and Ilive in Brooklyn, New York. I
never thought I would be embarking ona career in aviation, but you know,
we talk about silver linings during thepandemic, and I'm being a serial
entrepreneur. My business was my mainbusiness was business to business events, specifically

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hospitality interior design, which literally gota viscerated during COVID. So the silver
lining was I didn't know it,but this is what I really wanted to
do when I grow up. Itwas side hustle, it was a side
charity. It was doing okay,but really it was just so I could
fly a kick ass plane that Icouldn't normally afford and be close to animals,

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which I love. So the silverlining really was, you know,
now, I realized this is somethingI want to do full time, and
like they always say, figure outwhat you want to do and then figure
out a way to make a livingout of it. And that's literally where
I'm sitting right now in front ofyou today. That's awesome. I'm glad
you had that mindset of figure outwhat you want to do. And I'm

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guessing you mean figure out what youenjoy, what you want to enjoy doing,
and then figure out how to makethat a living, because I think
I feel like so many people gothe opposite route. I feel like a
lot of people just figure out wherethe money is and then they do that
thinking that the money will make themhappy. What was it or how did
it get ingrained to you? Thatyou know, figure out what you want

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to do first, and then figureout how to make it a living.
I think it's because I already hadfigure out a way to make a nice
living and a comfortable lifestyle. Andthen it's like, okay, I have
enough money, I have you knowwhat I want material wise, And then
I checked off the box getting married, loved my wife, been married almost
six years, we have four amazingkids, so checked off that box.

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Then it's about finding fulfillment. Youknow. I think that we are a
little bit like a dog chasing ourtail, trying to find happiness and fulfillment.
And I realized that the things thatyou do that make you feel fulfilled
inside are giving back. So givingback is a way you can really reward
yourself and get satisfaction in life.And honestly, it's not really about making

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lots of money now, it's justabout how can I pay myself enough money
to run this charity full time becausethe fulfillment is off the charts. Whereas
in the other job, I figuredout how to make lots of money,
but maybe the fulfillment wasn't really there. So fulfillment is greater than making lots
of money, and now that's whatThat's the realization that I came to during

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COVID, and I think a lotof people really came to the realization because
prior to the pandemic, we wereall a little bit like chasing our tail.
Yeah, So when when was itthat you or that that mindset was
fully ingrained into When when did thatbecome a realization that fulfillment is like you
derive fulfillment by giving back to otherpeople, animals, the environments. Because

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for me, it took me awhile to figure that out because as I'm
sure most you know, teenage boys, we grew up being pretty selfish,
you know, just worried about ourselves. And especially in entrepreneurship. So many
people are in entrepreneurship just for themselves. They want to make all the money
to have the lifestyle of freedom.And but so when did you figure out

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that your ideal lifestyle includes giving back? I think it's when I started,
you know, calling myself out onall my bs, you know, when
I realized that it's not about me. I was basically having some issues in
life, call them blind spots,call them whatever, But I wasn't able
to achieve certain things I wanted tomainly meeting a partner, meeting finding someone

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that I could marry, and Irealized that that stem from my parents getting
divorced when I was a teenager.But through that exploration, I realized there
were other things I was doing toself sabotage myself. And once I got
rid of all those issues, Iaddressed all those issues and called myself out
on those things, I created enoughspace to realize that, Okay, you

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know, I have all these skills, I have all these tools. I've
achieved a lot in my life ata relative a young age. It's time
to offer myself and use the powerof listening to give other people a chance
to help other people, whether itbe pets or otherwise. Because now I've
done that work for myself. Imean, if I were to today,

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I would be happy. Of Course, there's a lot of things I want
to achieve, but it's really recognizingthat what you have right now is all
you need to be happy. It'sof course we all want to achieve more.
Of course we're looking for the future, but you have to be happy
with what you have now. Andeasier said than done. But I think
it's really when I truly put thatwork into myself and call myself out on

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all the issues that were sabotaging myself, that I realize that it's not about
me anymore. It's it's about goingout there making a difference, contributing to
society, and that will come backto you tenfold. There are a lot
of things in my life I can'texplain that are positive in my life,
and I can only attribute it tothe good things that I do to give
back. All this rescue work thatI do, all these animals that I

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say, all this inspiration that I'mcreating for other people, it comes back
to me tenfold. And that's thebest thing I can say for your people
listening to this podcast is whether youbelieve in karma or what goes around comes
around, just try it. Tryit out. Go to your local food
pantry, go to your local animalsshelter, whatever it is that lights you

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up that you care about. Don'tjust write a check. Actually go there,
roll up your sleeves and do somethingand watch what happens in your life.
Yes, sorry for the brief pausethere. I'm just taking to come
back to this yea. But Iwant to stick on the topic that we
originally started talking about before. Yougave me a nice little side topic to

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go into later. Let's stick onwhat was it? Because it takes a
lot of self awareness to call yourselfout and to understand that, Okay,
I'm having a difficult time right nowfinding a partner, you know, in
business, whatever it is. Ittakes a lot of self awareness to understand

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that it's you that's causing your ownproblems and it's you that's holding yourself back.
So you made it seem so simple, like, oh yeah, once
I just called myself out. Butwhat was it? What was it that
put you in that mindset that madeyou realize that it was your fault and
not some external circumstance. That wasgreat question. Well, I certainly had
quite a few breakdowns. I've definitelyhad my history of alcohol abuse, drug

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abuse, promiscuity, you know,reckless lifestyle in my late twenties that I
you know, waking up not realizinghow I got to a place like blacking
out, you know, from partyand whatnot. Yeah, so after you
have these several destructive phases, youstart, you know, you could really
you come to a precipice. You'relike, Okay, is this gonna be

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my lifestyle, and am I goingto become a statistic like all these people
you hear about when you wake upand you're fully closed and you're lying in
a bathtub or your hotel room andyou don't know how you got there and
you're wondering where your car is.I could have easily been one of those
people that killed someone driving drunk,you know, and you really feel for
those people. So when you havea lot of those breakdowns, you realize

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that whatever you're doing, he's notworking for you. So I started with
restriction. I just woke up,I just decided one day, you know,
I'm not going to drink. AndI was sober for eleven years,
thank you. And then I didother kinds of restriction. I went without,
you know, having sex, soI could get close to a female
and a relationship without that clouding orjudgment. Obviously no drugs. And through

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that restriction, by taking something away, things became more clear. And then
I started doing a lot of differentwork, self help books, kabbala what
made the biggest difference in my life? And people they may feel it,
they may have a certain opinion aboutit. But I did this program called
Landmark, and Landmark really was,you know, without going into the minutia

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about Landmark and details about it.They had this thing called the Big Game,
and that's where pilots arrested came from. And the Big Game basically they
said, you have forty eight hoursto pick an unreasonable goal and create something
you've always wanted to do, butfor whatever reason, you make every excuse
in the book not to do.I don't have time, I don't have

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money, I'm not smart enough,whatever it may be. So it was
through Landmark that I worked through alot of those issues. Cabalah helped self
help books, helped pick your poison, whatever it's going to work for you.
But they had a very effective programbecause it's extremely confronting. They create
these exercises like the Big Game thatyou have no excuses but not to call

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yourself out on this BS. Sowe explored why I wasn't able to get
into a relationship, you know,more than a few months, why I
was promiscuous, and I realized Icame from my parents getting divorced when I
was nineteen. Oh, my parentsgot divorced. That's the only relationship I
know. I guess I can't dothat now. I can't get in a
relationship that they got divorced. Andthen, you know, back to the

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big game that I picked doing POLITSIrescue, combining my love of aviation and
rescue almost because I had already starteddabbling in that and I'm being an entrepreneur,
I felt I could build a bettermass trap. So within forty eight
hours I wanted to raise ten thousandbucks. I did it through my friends
and family, and literally when Iwalked through that center after forty eight hours,

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I raised the money. So itreally just set an unreasonable goal in
your life, give yourself a timelimit to do it and see what happens.
You might not make it, butthat's okay. You're going to surprise
yourself. How much should be wereif you didn't try? That's right,
that's right. So to answer yourquestion, it was through self exploration,
through using a multidisciplinary approach, youknow. But the most effective I found

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to be Landmark. So that wasa great program. Okay, was there
because it sounds like we have,you know, relatively similar paths because I
used to be in the Marine Corps, you know, drunk all the time,
driving drunk, you know, horrible, I myself got sober for two

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years, and you know, itwas at that time when I was just
being drunk and stupid that I cameto the realization like, Okay, something
needs to change. So for you, was there a specific moment that you
can remember or was it just kindof a culmination of all of these other
incidents that kind of led up tothis one moment. I think the scariest

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moments were the blackouts. You know, for me, not being able to
remember what transpired the night before.By the way, thank you for your
service and being part of the corethat's tremendous. To the fact that you
were able to achieve that is greatand then you're you're here today to talk
about it. So but yeah,it was those blackouts. I mean,
that's a scary thing to not beable to recollect that what you did the

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night before, and to wake upand be like, WHOA, how did
I get here? What happened?And needing to fill in those details.
That's when I knew I kind ofwent off to the deep end in that
aspect, and I do thank Godthat I'm able to that I was able.
Something inside of me or someone abovewas looking after me and said,
hey, Michael, you need.This is not the direction you need to

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go. And I would love togo to those people that don't go in
that direction of bringing their life backand ask them how they were not able
to recognize that they didn't have aproblem. You know, what did they
do? Was it their egos saying, you know, you're not doing anything
wrong, go out there and party. Why Why were we able to realize
that and take action and other peopleweren't the Only thing I could say is,

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you know, I grew up ina background with even if my parents
got divorced, they provided me witha nice upbringing. Maybe it was the
environment part of it. Yeah,maybe it was. Maybe it was the
genetics. Who knows, But I'mjust glad I recognized that and I was
able to do one eighty and turnmy life around. Yeah, thank goodness.

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And I think I think the peoplewho are able to do that,
or who are able to recognize it, I think it's environments is huge because
you're the sum of the five peopleyou spend the most time with, so
who you have around you is huge. But if you're in that situation,
chances are your friends are probably doingsimilar things with you. So I think

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it goes above your environments. Ithink it also goes to like your your
conditioning, like your past experiences.So for me, I know that what
was able to pull me out ofthat was my upbringing. Like I was
always you know, I was nevera bad kid. I was always you
know, above average and like athleticsin school. I always consider myself a

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high achiever. And then I wokeup one day, well it was after
this certain incident, and I waslike, this is not who I want
to be, and it like justswitched. I started, you know,
diving deep into the self help realm, just like you did. And so
that leads me to my next question. First off, what is Cabalah.
I've never heard of that. Cabalais Jewish mysticism. UM. Interesting.

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Yeah, it's been around for overfive thousand years, and it focuses on
tikkun. What tikkun is giving back. It's in a form of light um.
If you know, there's there's alot of other parallel religions and transformational
work that um is similar to cabala. But if it focuses on your body

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as a vessel, and you know, the more you fill up the vessel,
the more it runs over so youhave light to give back to people.
UM. So it's interesting. It'svery interesting work, and you don't
have to be Jewish to do it, although some extreme um sets of Cabalah
believe that you should be Jewish andyou have to be at least forty years

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old. There's all these rules,but you can go down to yeah,
yeah, yeah, of course.Yeah. UM. The one thing I
would the one thing I will saynow speaking with you, UM, referencing
like how I was able to bringmyself back from the precipice. I actually
had. Oh some of that tomy older brother. He was a problem
child growing up and he got afar worse trouble than I did. Um,

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so that may have had something todo with it, you know,
sending a bad example my older brother. You knew that path, It's possible,
and I remember he tried to.He I got wrapped up in some
of his bad deeds growing up inhigh school, earlier age where he got
more trouble, and I was like, oh, maybe I should you know.
Yeah, so some of that mighthave Yeah, some of that might
be working. You have siblings.I do. I'm a younger brother,

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so that specific thing doesn't really applyto me. But okay, I think
I think another part of it isI just didn't want to, I guess
let my family down because I don'tknow, I just didn't want to be
seen as you know this, notthat they ever thought this, because you
know, to the outside world,if you were to look at me at
the time, you'd be like,oh, wow, he's a fit dude,

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CrossFit coach in the Marine Corps,like he's doing good things. But
I knew personally that I wasn't reachingmy expectations that I had set for myself,
and I didn't want to, youknow, shy away from that,
both selfishly and also to you know, to always strive for greatness for in
the eyes of my parents and familyall that stuff. Um, okay,

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next question, what is a landmarkYou mentioned a little bit about it.
Is that like a coaching courses thatin person online? Yeah, so,
I'm sure they do a lot ofstuff online because of the pandemic, and
now they'll probably getting back to aperson. But it's trans they call it
transformational work. It's not like therapy. They have these centers, they're all
around all around the world, andbasically they focus on these blind spots.

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So Basically, we do things toself sabotage ourselves or we're not able to
achieve certain things in life and wedon't understand why. You know. It's
sort of like you have that blindyou have these blind spots. So they
do these explorative explore exploration of whatare you doing or what are you not
doing to not achieve your goals?And a lot of times it's wrapped into

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a story or reasons or things thathappen in the past that are you know,
creating lenses and filters UM a certainway of looking at life, and
they through group sharing UM or partnersharing you explore. It's like a very
confronting boot camp. So they havethey have the Forum is the first first

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program, then they have the AdvancedCourse, and then they have this thing
called Self Expression Leadership Program, andit has Landmark doesn't have the greatest reputation
because it comes from M. S. S. T. S Is Werner
Earhart, one of the founders ofScientology. So Landmark bought that technology from
s and they've done a lot torid themselves of that bad stuff in the

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past. But it's a terrific program. I would highly recommend it. It's
one of the best educations I evergot. I owe them my marriage,
I owe them my kids than thischarity, and I owe them this sense
of freedom and the ability just tobe with people and have the power of
listening and understand that it's not aboutme, and it makes me a highly

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effective and powerful person in life.And I really do owe a lot to
that To Landmark, I'm a bigproponent of it. I haven't done anything
to enroll and register anybody in years, but to this day it's had a
profound effect on me. Where itkind of goes sideways a little bit is
they try. They want you toenroll people that are in your life,

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that you love, your friends andfamily, and then it becomes a little
bit like, oh, is ita cult? You know, like I'm
working for Landmark for free. Putall that aside, you know, get
out of it as much as youcan. And if that works for you
you want to go up into teachingother people, great. If it doesn't
work for you, it didn't workfor me. I didn't want to become
a coach for free, and atthat point I was like, thank you,

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Landmark. Now I'm gonna go outin the world and make a difference.
Not for Landmark, but for me, my family, for the charity.
That's really what it's about. Andit's not easy for everybody to separate
those two things. But it's agreat, great program, high they recommend
it. Awesome. Yeah, okay, And for everybody listening, I'll put
links to everything we mentioned in theshow notes. And this has been a

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common reoccurrence for every high achieving entrepreneurthat I interview some type of coaching and
or mentorship. And I was talkingwith my client on a podcast either day
who just finished up my program,and he now realizes that some type of
coaching and or mentorship is essentially requiredto be an entrepreneur because everybody else has

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one. Everybody else is constantly gettingbetter. So if you're the only one
who doesn't have a mentor who canyou teach you show you your blind spots,
you're going to stay at the samelevel and everybody else is going to
progress. So yeah, I justwant to emphasize this for all the listeners.
If you don't have some type ofcode or mentor that you can look
up to you, that should bea priority. And it doesn't have to

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be a paid thing like podcast.What you're listening to right Now is a
great start. Obviously, one onone or you know, intimate group programs
are best because you can get personalizedand custom results tailored to your specific situation.
But then there's things like books,which you also mentioned. What are

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some of the books that you wouldrecommend or that you use to start this
journey. Yeah, some of myfavorites are like How to Win and Influence
People Dale Carnegie. Yeah, Iwould say it's probably it's just such simple
and effective advice. My grandfather,who was a big entrepreneur, that was
one of his favorite books, andit became one of my favorite books.
Absolutely, it's one of my favorite. There's I can't remember some of the

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other ones. There's like The Secret. I know that's way out there,
but I really enjoyed that book becauseit's about just thinking about and visualizing what
you want and it's going to cometoo, And I really do believe in
that. It's it's the power ofpositive thinking and thought. You know,
if you can visualize what you wantin life and you align your thoughts with
that, then you're gonnact. We'reall connected. This whole universe is connected.

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There's a reason why you chose meand why I'm speaking to you right
now, and such amazing things thatcome out of it that we can't even
fathom right now. It might nothappen right now or tomorrow, but it
could happen in months or years fromnow. So, um, there's another
guy to the Um. I'm gonnahave to think about it and get back
to you later. The Power ofNow, what's that guy's name? Um,

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you know what I'm talking about,Dale something Power of Now his name
is Kart. Yeah, for somereason, I was thinking Dale Ekartle.
But yeah, that had a lotof influence on me too. So Carnegie
Toll, whoever wrote the Secret,I don't remember her name, but I
know why I was thinking Dale becauseI said Dale Carnegie and then it was

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yeah, yeah, whatever'll side tangentthere. But yeah, The the or
How to Win Friends and Influence People, that's among my top three books that
I recommend every single person read.I've read it three times. I just
think everybody needs to understand those principlesin that book, just because they're so
foundational to not only health and happiness, because relationships play a huge role in

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your health and happiness, but alsofor business too, because you have to
be able to make quality connections withother people in business in order to have
a successful business. And yeah,again we'll link to all these things in
the show notes. But people thinkthat like manifestation and you know, setting

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goals and okay, if I thinkit, I can achieve it. People
think that that's all woo woo andit's kind of out there, but it's
really not, like honestly, like, yes, you have to put hard
work into it, of course,but if you just put that energy out
into the universe, like you weresaying with the what's it called the Big
Game as part of the Landmark program, Yeah, self limiting beliefs are holding

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you back from everything you want.And I love that they said, Okay,
go make or come up with somebig, hairy, audacious goal.
You have forty eight hours to achieveit. And then look what happened.
You actually raise the ten thousand dollarsin two days. Like if you wouldn't
have gone through that program, thatnever would have happened. It would have
stayed this. Oh yeah, maybesomeday I'll get to that in your head.

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But because you were able to manifestit, essentially you thought it,
you took action to make it happen, and then it happened. I think
people drastically underestimate what they're actually capableof, and a lot of that's just
because they never They just think thatthat's not possible, so they just keep

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it as a maybe one day I'llget to that. But human being are
way more powerful than they think theyare. Yeah, average you know the
you know, it's amazing the thingsthat we've accomplished as as as a human
race. And you're only limited yourpossibilities is only limited by your what you

(30:15):
believe or you believe you can't do. Yeah, So it's that simple.
I'm sure going through the Marine Corpslike to most people is like how physically
and emotionally am I going to beable to do that? But plenty of
people have done it right, andthat you're in you're subconscious when you're going
through your training. I'm sure attimes it was like I can't do this,
but you realize, well, yes, I can do it, and

(30:37):
I have my you know, myfellow soldiers to prop me up. And
I'm only as strong as my weakestlink and all this stuff. So life
is like training. And to goback to your point about before about having
a mentor coach. Absolutely, ifyou're not always learning, you're not growing
if you're not. I tell peoplewhen i'm flying. One of the reasons

(30:59):
I love lying is because not onlydo I learn something with every flight,
but I scare myself a little bitevery time I fly. It's still scary
for me to fly. By theway I have nearly seven hundred hours and
been flying for over ten years,it's still scary. Things happen and it
is dangerous. Just like when Ihad a motorcycle and jumped on the bike.
I mean I didn't go on andget on the bike thinking, oh,
I'm gonna get in a crash today, because you're you're probably not gonna

(31:22):
ride that well if you're like worried. Same with flying. But it's important
to scare yourself a little bit everyday, to keep pushing yourself because that's
how you expand as a human being, and the training and the mentorship is
a huge part of that. Really, what we need to do is sometimes
are things that we don't want toand that's how we grow. You know,
absolutely, you know whether it's oh, I don't want to work out,

(31:45):
but that's the time you need towork out. I don't want to
have that difficult conversation with that personI've been spoken to in a while,
you know, So that's a that'sthat confrontation, you know, with your
ego and this voice in your headthat gets that voice in your head that's
sponge gets in the way of everythingthat you can accomplish. So when you
feel like you can't accomplish or dosomething in life, look in the mirror,

(32:07):
say what am I doing that's keepingme from doing it? Stop doing
it and just being in action.I'm a big proponent of being an action,
Like, don't overthink things because thatgets in the way of progress.
It's that simple, you know.I'm not saying like being impulsive, not
that like, of course things requiresome planning. But if you find yourself

(32:28):
procrastinating, or you find yourself drawing, pushing something off or drawing it out
at the risk of maybe being alittle impulsive, just be in action and
do it. What's the worst thatcan happen? You know? Yeah,
I always like to say that anytimeyou feel hesitation, or you feel like
it'll be an uncomfortable situation, oryou don't want to do something, I

(32:52):
say, okay, that is yourcue that you need to go do that
thing. Like that thing that youfeel comfort or hesitation about doing that is
what's holding you back from success.So if you go do that thing,
that will bring you closer to yourgoal. It's the hot girl in the
bar. Yeah, nobody wants togo up and talk to her, but

(33:14):
the only way you're going to getto her is if you go up and
talk to her. Yeah. Yeah, And we're in twenty twenty one.
So if there's any female listeners,right, don't we as guys find it
doesn't matter how she looks. Ifa girl comes up to you and hits
on you, it's great. Ohwow, you know you want it.
It doesn't matter if she's like theyou know, unattractive or not your type,

(33:36):
it doesn't matter. So um,it's just recognizing an opportunity and seizing
it. And if it just ifit means you're slightly impulsive and you fall
flat in her face, so much, get up, do it again?
Good experience practice Yeah, fail,fail and learn like fail forward. Um,

(33:57):
I'm forgetting the quote that I wantedto mention. Its from one of
my podcast guests. Oh I rememberedit, so Ryan Hudson Pralta the most
inspirational dude I've ever met. Hewas born with no arms, no legs,
has accomplished more things than most ablebodied people. He's actually flown a
plane and landed it, which isincredible with no arms or legs. I

(34:19):
don't know how, but he's successfulentrepreneur anyways. One of his quotes is
fail and figure it out. Sofor him, failure is a must.
So the common phrase failure is notan option, that's bullshit. Like you
you should actively be seeking out chancesand opportunities to fail because the more you
fail, the more you can learnand implement, you know, the strategies

(34:40):
to improve and get better. Absolutely, I totally agree with that. That
reminds me of this graphic of aguy who's doing push ups in a wheelchair,
and it's like, failure is notan option? You know, love
that this guy's guy No, no, it doesn't have use of his legs.
He's we push ups a wheelchair attachedto him. You know, it's

(35:01):
like, what are you complaining about? Exactly? Yeah, this guy Ryan
again, no arms, no legs, and he still works out. So
if you think that you have anexcuse to not work out, you're bullshitting
yourself. That is, that isan example of a self limiting belief.
You know, you are the onlyone holding yourself back. Um, yeah,

(35:22):
so no excuses. It's crazy,but it's really great that it's very
poignant this analogy that you're making,because I use it a lot with my
kids. You know, my oldis just five years old, the three
year old. I yeah, soI oftentimes give references to kids that don't

(35:42):
have food or don't have the abilityto move, and just as to try
to ingrain in them that they havea lot of privilege. They are growing
up. Yeah, they're growing upwith a lot of benefits, and they
need to achieve as much as theycan with the tools that they are given.
You know, I don't think it'sa bad think to ingrain that in
your kids at an early age.Let them know that there's other people out

(36:05):
there that have ad a less advantageand actually can achieve more. Yeah,
it's all about perspective, that's right. Yeah, it's it's unfortunate that a
lot of the depression comes from alack of gratitude, you know, because

(36:28):
you know the millionaires, for example, or billionaires, they're they're sons or
daughters. If they don't raise themproperly, you know, they're just they
grow up to be entitled to allthese whatever, and then they're not truly
happy because they don't understand how luckythey are to actually have all that that.
You know, maybe they didn't haveto work for anything, so they

(36:50):
didn't understand the value of things.But I always like to say, gratitude
is an amazing drug. Like,no matter what your situation, material possession,
money, none of that matters ifyou're grateful. You know, there's
people in third world countries who seeminglyto us have nothing, but there's some
of the most happy people on theplanet because they have each other, they

(37:12):
have their relationships, which is oneof the best things that you can have
for health and happiness. So yeah, I love that you're teaching your kids
that. Something that I wanted togo back to is you mentioned every time
you fly you get a little bitscared. Do you experience flow flow state
when you're flying. You're familiar withthat. I've heard that term before,

(37:35):
if you could describe it to me, and yeah, so it basically it
just means that you know you're inthe zone, you're focused. It's kind
of like a tunnel vision. Doyou experience that when you're flying? Yeah,
So one of the reasons I loveflying is because they would create it
demands presence and attention, and everythingelse in my life kind of just melts
away, and while I'm up there, I don't think about anything other than

(37:58):
being in this machine and responsible formyself and the other people and people on
the ground and all these animals thatI'm transporting. So I would definitely say
the flow state is an accurate representationof what it's like to fly or anybody
that's connected to something they're really passionateabout. So absolutely. Okay, Yeah,
I was just because I'm reading StephenCotler's book, his new book,

(38:21):
The Art of Impossible. He's apeak performance coach like myself, and in
there he talks about one of thethings to achieve flow state is there has
to be, you know, avery small level of fear or discomfort or
challenge something. You know. Heget gives an example of you know,
people who do extreme sports like extremeskiers or whatever, there's always some level

(38:45):
of fear there. It's not thatthose extreme sports, you know, athletes
don't experience fear. They're scared,but they do it anyways, and by
putting themselves into those increasingly more challengingsituations that you know, because they're in
flow state, then they're able toperform like that. But if you just

(39:06):
took me and put me in thatsituation, it would be I would be
overloaded with fear because I hadn't beentrained for that. So there's got to
be a slight, just little levelof fear or challenge to be into that
flow state. Yeah, it createsa heightened sense of awareness exactly, keeping
you on your toes, making youreally sharp. Yes, and um,

(39:28):
I would agree with that statement forsure. Yeah, you know, it's
funny. I'm pretty sure that fearand excitement are Your body physiologically doesn't know
the difference. It's only the brainthat makes you think about it. Yeah,
yeah, is this scary or isthis exciting? You know? So
with a little bit of training andtrust and skills, that scary turns into

(39:52):
can turn into exciting and you makethe choice. The only reason, well,
I'd say there's a has two reasonswhy people would be scared. One
is that there's immediate you know danger, like you will experience bodily harm if
you fail, and then number twois like the social isolation fear. For
example, public speaking is the numberone fear. But there's no danger when

(40:16):
you're public speaking. There's absolutely zerodanger besides the fact if there's some crazy
person in the audience who's wanting toattack you. But you know, besides
that crazy random situation, there's absolutelyno actual danger in public speaking. The
reason why it's a fear of mostpeople is because you know, the back

(40:37):
to the tribal mentality. If,for example, your speech bombs and everybody
booze you, which would never happenpeople are not that disrespectful at least like
hope not, then you would beostracized from the group. You know,
you'd be kicked out. Social isolationthat back in the day would cut would
lead to death because you're away fromthe tribe. You can't survive on your

(40:59):
own. But now it doesn't matter. So now if you switch your mindset
to, like you said, excited, then it's like wow, it turns
away from fear and goes into excitement. That's a whole you know, new
new experience. But before we runout of time, I want to get
into the reason why I had youon this show in the first place,

(41:21):
which is your business, Pilots tothe Rescue? Tell me about So we
talked about what you know got youinto that, But tell me how it's
been going the past few years.So you said it was founded in twenty
fifteen, but then you said thatbecause of the lockdowns, then you really
started going hundred percent into it.Yeah. So the one thing I'll say
is I don't It's not a business. It's a five to one C three

(41:44):
charity. Yeah. So the reasonwhy I mentioned five to one C three
is because we're a public benefit organization. We are here and exists to benefit
the public. What does that mean? That means my priority is not profiting
or putting money in my pocket,never has been. As a matter of
fact, the first five years aroundthe organization, I'm paid myself to zero.

(42:06):
It was only till this year thatI kicked myself off the board and
made myself executive director, paying myselfa paltry salary only so that I can
dedicate more to what I love andI'm passionate about. And there's no way
anybody's gonna be able to hire someonelike me for as little money as I'm
paying myself. But that comes upa lot with charities. You know,
some of these more established charities thatbring in millions of dollars that you start

(42:30):
looking about how much I pay theirexecutives, and people are like, hm,
how much money go actually goes tothe costs, etc. So these
smaller charities that are a little bitunder the radar or newer are actually great
charities to give too, because ahigher proportion of money does actually go to
the costs. Just a little tidbitif you were thinking about donating to a
charity. So Pilots the Rescue startedin twenty fifteen and up until twenty twenty.

(42:57):
Last year we rescued just over fivehundred animals, and this year we're
on pace to exceed that um morethan five hundred, So this year will
be more than the whole history ofthe organization. That's the transformational shift is
last year during COVID, I realize, you know, this is what I
really want to do. I wantto focus more attention. So then I
started making those changes and I've beenI've done eighteen missions this year so far,

(43:22):
and I'm hoping we can reach ourgoal of a thousand animals saved,
which doesn't sound like a whole lotwhen you consider this volume of animals that
are still be euthanized in the country. But what I realize is it's it's
kind of novel. It's a noveltyto rescue animals using an aircraft. There's
there's only a handful of us doingthis. So we're creating more awareness about

(43:43):
this problem of euthanizing animals. It'sa it's a vehicle, it's a mechanism
to spread awareness, you know,because a thousand animals when you're when we're
euthanizing close to a million still inthis country is nothing um but by our
storytelling, which is part of whatyou do. Also, when you podcasts,
you're you're you're setting out a messageand our you know, social media

(44:05):
and stuff like that, we're gettingpeople's attention. Let's put it that way,
so that that's really helped. I'mlooking at your website right now and
it says that you've rescued one wolf. That's right. Yeah, we've done
three wolves in the history of theorganization, but this year was a big
deal. That red wolf was namedDevon. They all have these they all

(44:27):
have these numbers. It's like DVfifty nine forty or whatever. So they
effectually named the wolf Devon. Butwe rescued that wolf. We brought him
from the Wolf Conservation Center in NewYork and Westchester County down to North Carolina.
And that was a big deal becausethey're releasing that wolf to the wild,
and they only released red wolfs everyfew years and they needed federal quarter

(44:47):
approval. So the red wolf isthe most endangered canaan in the whole world.
There's only like ten of them,ten red wolves in the wild that
we know of. College that's itin the whole world. Holy shiteah.
Yeah, So by actually helping transportthese animals and mating them with other ones,
we're keeping that species going. Andwhat people don't understand is endangered species

(45:10):
why you want to save them?Is there part of a larger ecosystem.
We are part of that ecosystem.No, So if that red wolf goes
away, some other animals can periferate, and this has happened. There's countless
stories of this. So we neededto keep the ecosystem in balance. And
where would the domesticated dog be withoutthe wolf. If you go back and

(45:31):
you research about wolves and dogs,dogs are domesticated wolves so wolves realize that
if they were played nice with humans, you know, they saw these fires,
they saw us cooking food, ifthey played nice with humans, they
would get food. So over timeevolution, the dog became domesticated. So
it's really it's really important to dothat kind of work. And I can

(45:54):
really give back in more much fundamentalway when I rescue one wolf to not
to say that dogs and cats arenot worth it. That's our bread and
butter what we do every day.But we've done sea turtles. Also,
we've done We've done veteran airlifts.We've helped veterans get to places to see
loved ones. Um that, yeah, we've done that. Um. We've

(46:15):
done foster flights for foster kids,discovery flights. Um. So we do
all kinds of public benefit flights eventhough we're known for animals. Wow,
that's cool. Um, before wego on, what do you know the
word for that, like a keystonespecies or something like if you picture an

(46:37):
arch and like an arch made outof blocks, and you take out the
middle block, then the whole youknow, ecosystem structure collapses. You know
the specific word for that. I'mblanking on it. M I don't know
this for the ecosystem collapsing if youtake out or something, Yeah, m
collapse, species collaps know, likethe I don't know, I can't remember

(47:00):
the word. But yeah, thecoral reefs, for example, that's a
that's another good example, like peopledon't understand, like if the coral reefs
go away, like us as ahuman race is going to be endangered just
because of how huge of a rolethat plays in the whole entire ocean.

(47:21):
And obviously if we don't have ahealth healthy ocean, we won't have a
healthy population. Yeah. Or bees, bees with a columns another big one.
Starters. You know a lot offruits and vegetables need to be pollinated.
Yeah, absolutely, So that's importantwork. And when you transport those
endangered animals, it's always a crapsheet. You don't know if they're going to
thrive in their new environment, butyeah, you have to try. Ye,

(47:43):
try. So you mentioned you helphumans as well other than animals.
So do you want to read usthe mission statement of pilots to the rescue?
Read the mission statement? Yeah?Oh, do I want you to
read it? No? I doyou know the mission statement of the top
Yeah, I would have to lookit up the word for word, but

(48:05):
basically or a public benefit aviation organizationand we help volunteer pilots give back by
doing rescue flights for animals or medicalflights veterans. Wherever we can make an
aviation resource benefit public society. Anda lot of times it's getting people or

(48:27):
animals to places faster because they couldnot endure that length of drive. So
we try to place the aviation resourceswhere they're most needed, and a lot
of the times for the animals,certainly senior senior animals, disabled, sick,
but also to alleviate the ground cruise. You know, there are amazing
people doing work. Talk about wantingto give back. If you want to

(48:51):
get back, you don't have tobe a pilot. If you have a
car and a driver's license, youcould drive these animals as long as you
like going on the road. Sowe oftentimes become alleviate was amazing ground heroes,
ground transport and with with the workthat we do. But our mission
stament is putting our these aviation resourcesto go to good use because it would

(49:12):
be very expensive to charter these aircraftotherwise. So it sounds like there's three
possibly more benefits of the aviation rescueone, the kind of storytelling aspect of
it. You get to brand yourselfa little bit different to get the awareness
out there. To the speed ofit, because obviously it's faster than ground

(49:35):
travel. And then three you're alleviatingthe ground forces who are already overworked.
Right. Are there any other benefitsof the aviation aspect of it. Well,
we do promote general aviation, whichis a dying thing. Unfortunately,
it's become very time consuming and costly. So there's the I love being an

(49:57):
aviator and a pilot, and Ilove to offer that other people. So
I've been bringing more influencers with meand sharing the experience and that you know,
they push it out to their channels. They also like to come on
a rescue flight and experience it.And I'd like to think to some degree,
I'm spreading the good will of generalaviation, which is amazing thing.
That the fact that a citizen canstudy and become a pilot and some amazing

(50:23):
responsibility. But if it makes youa better person, that's really the takeaway.
It's not about going from point Ato point B. It's about climbing
that mountain and achieving something and thenbeing able to do something that not everybody
else can do, like becoming amarine. I mean, how many people
can do that, right? Andthat is ingrained in every fiber of your

(50:45):
being and how you approach life andhow you're able to accomplish certain things,
and the becoming a pilot, it'sthe same thing. So I would say
spreading general aviation has become the responsibilityof mine now because I am more visible
in the community, and we needmore aviators like myself. We need more

(51:07):
females in aviation. So whenever Isee a female pilot, I always commend
them because we need more of thathappening. They make excellent pilots, arguably
better than men because they're better multitaskers. Interesting, Yeah, what is the
best thing that you've learned from beinga pilot. The best thing I learned

(51:28):
from being a pilot is how tohandle stressful situations or urgent situations should they
come up. There are rarely emergencies, by the way. We all go
out there in life thinking, ohmy god, that person cut me off.
It's an act of war in acar, you know. So if
being a pilot you have to becalm, you have to approach. You

(51:49):
have to have aeronautical decision making.That's you know, sound ADM we call
it. You need to recognize hazardousattitudes like impulsivity and being macho and these
type of there's certain antidotes to it. I mean, this is stuff that
I'm learning right now. I'm gettingmy commercial pilot's license right now. And
it seems so logical, right,but we don't necessarily study it. And

(52:12):
then when you read those hazardous attitudes, you realize, wow, yeah,
those things would not work well flyingthis plane, but they also don't work
well in life. So the bestthing I learned from being a pilot really
is there's rarely emergencies. It's aboutwhat you do when the urgent situations arise.
You know, I like how you'recrying about Yeah, I was just
gonna say, I like how youryour voice is getting louder as the kids

(52:35):
are getting louder in the background.Yeah, it puts things in perspective.
Yeah, you know, Okay,let's let's can you tell us a crazy
rescue story that comes to mind,Like, what's one of the more I
guess, non routine ones that you'vebeen through. Sure, so mechanically with

(52:55):
these older planes. The plane mayflies in nineteen eighty two. The one
we have before was a seventy seven. It almost doesn't matter the age of
the plane. Things break all thetime, but a few that come to
mind are the I've had situations whereI've had mechanical failures, like I lost
an alternator, and when you loseyour alternator, eventually going to lose all
electric in the plane that was goingin to pick up animals. So not

(53:19):
so much with the animals, butI did have a full load of animals
once and I landed in an instrumentapproach, which basically means you can't see
anything and you have to land justby instruments. And then I've also lost
a break upon landing, so itjust goes to the floor and you have
to feather it. But specific tothe animals themselves, I've had escape artists,
escape artist in the plane and escapeartists at the airport. So,

(53:45):
yeah, it was a cat inthe plane, you know, all crawl
up over my shoulder, you know, so you know, so luckily nothing
happened, but I've had that happen. And then the dogs, when you
open up the crates sometimes they dartout of there, you gotta be ready
to slip leashes. And when theyget out in the runway environments, you
have to notify someone because you canhave planes landing and departing and they have

(54:05):
to go out and get the animals. So let's see. I think that's
pretty much it. That disabled animalsreally got me, either missing limbs or
missing eyes or remember this one dogthat was blind and another one that had
cerebral palsy. But I've never beenbitten. I consider myself a pretty good
dog handler. I would never takean animal that was vicious, and generally

(54:27):
they don't. That's a safety offlight thing. So I've identified animals that
are very stressed, and the loadingand unloading issues, specifically the loading of
the of the animals. When youget to the receiving end, it's not
as bad, but the loading andthe animals is when you could start to
identify animals that are overstressed. Andwe had one not too long ago.

(54:49):
It was actually eating through the plasticcrate and it was getting really bloody and
it was just very distressed. Sowe took that animal off. We didn't
fly with it, and you know, everything was fine, but and then
they poo and they vomit and pand all that stuff, and you get
these smells in the cabin. Yeah, so you got to redirect events and
all that stuff. Have you thoughtabout using any type of CBD? Is

(55:14):
what comes to mind for me forthe animals, for the stressed out ones,
just to get them to relax orwhat are some of your stress reduction
tactics if you have any. Yeah, So we generally we don't feed the
animals anything before they go and transport, just to keep the p and the
pooh and all that stuff down.I've received CBD supplements before, but I

(55:37):
generally don't give the animals anything beforeflight. We just load them in the
crates and they take care of thatat the receiving end. You know.
The it's kind of it's loud inthe cabin and the plane. We wear
these headsets, but it's very loudand there's a lot of vibration, so
the animals just generally go to sleep. Plus, we're generally flying between six
and eight thousand feet. We can'tgo above eight thousand feet because they've become

(55:59):
hypoxic lack of oxygen. So andhumans, we don't get a high box
set like twelve to fourteen thousand feet. So, um, they just go
to sleep, They just get tired, you know. So there's not much
I really can do. You know. They're just that's really you know,
they're good passengers at we sat passengers. Yeah. Nice cool. Yeah.

(56:24):
As soon as you said escape artists, I was like, oh, that's
got to be cats. Um,we have We just got a kitten three
months old. We take her tothe beach. She's going to be our
adventure cat. You know. Wegot her as a kitten so we could
take her everywhere on a leash andshe loves it. But this last time
a train ran by, or thetrain didn't run by, but the train

(56:47):
went by and she got scared andat the time she was offer leash,
and she ran up a palm treeand I had to go climb up the
palm tree and get her down.And so I was a little bit upset
about that, but um, Idid my my rescue for the day.
Yeah, that's great, that's awesome. So what what constitutes a rescue?

(57:13):
Like, do do people call youto to let you know or how how
does the whole process work? Yeah, so the one plane that we own
and operate out of New Jersey isIts range is generally you know, the
Carolinas to Maine, so then youknow kind of South um to the Northeast,

(57:34):
and that's a that's a very neededcorridor of the United States. The
South unfortunately has really bad euthanasia race, specifically Florida, Georgia, Tennessee,
the Carolinas. They do it,they just don't. They have overcrowded shelters,
municipally run shelters, so um andwe just get known, you know
people. We have relationships with sheltersthat we work with all the time on

(57:57):
the origin destination. We recently hookedup with a Bissell pet Foundation, the
Bissell Vacuums, and they are great. They do a lot of coordination logistics.
We also work with best Friends andASPCA and Bissell best Friends ASPCA.
They don't operate any shelters themselves,but they put together rescue partners and it's
great because I have these huge networksand they have a lot of people and

(58:20):
resources at their disposal, so wedon't have to really do anything but focus
on the rescue mission. And yeswe get emails and phone calls. A
lot of the work that we dowith that plane is excuse me, as
larger loads of animals typically anything fromlet's say ten to twenty as our sweet
spot. But we also work withvolunteer pilots that generally fly smaller planes and

(58:44):
they just rescue a few. We'regetting ready to launch a new transport board
where people anywhere in the country canget involved and they can have a discussion
over doing rescues. So and we'resaving to get our next aircraft, which
is a Sessnic caravan and it's aboutone point five million, It's got a
fifty two foot wingspan, is hugeaircraft. We could save over one hundred

(59:06):
animals and the cost per animal savedis actually less than the plane were flying
now, Yeah, because it's gotsuch a large cabin. I don't think
the military uses any of those planeswith FedEx stuffs. Fedexually uses them for
like intermediary way points for mission criticalpackages and stuff like that between major airports

(59:29):
and stuff like that, feed orroutes. So yeah, all right,
last question before we or before youlet people know where they can find more
about what you do. What isit that you're excited about four pilots to
the rescue. I'm excited about doingthis full time and putting my heart and
soul and skills into growing this organizationso other people can benefit from this and

(59:55):
enjoy what I've come to enjoy runningthe organization for six years and giving back
to society in the best way Ican and touch as many lives as I
can, and that will provide rewardsand fulfillment like and nothing I've ever had.
Ye. All right, well,now let's tell people where they can

(01:00:19):
find more about Pilots to the Rescue, where they can donate all that stuff.
Yeah, so our website is agreat place to start. Pilots to
the Rescue dot org. It's allspelled out, pilots t O t H
Rescue dot org. I'm sure ifyou put it into Google Search, I
hope we come up on the firstpage, Pilots to the Rescue. Yeah,
okay, good, did it allright? Great? We have an
active Facebook page also with sixty thousandfollowers. Instagram we have like sixteen thousand

(01:00:44):
followers. Social media is amazing becausewe can't capture that all on a website.
We actually brought those feeds into thewebsite now because it's its own ecosystem.
Donate is you could donate through thesocial channels, or you could donate
through our page, and we haveways of donate that won't necessarily cost you
money, whether it's Amazon, Smile, Wishless, double your donation, volunteer

(01:01:07):
as an influencer. You're on theWest coast, right, yes, sir,
Yeah, well if you ever cameto the East Coast, you can
come on a rescue mission. That'sa way of volunteering. Absolutely, I
would love that. Yeah, verycool, um, and yeah again we
will link to all this stuff inthe show notes. And yeah, just
as mentioned, another free method ofcontributing just sharing, you know, on

(01:01:29):
social media, sharing a post thatyou like. That that all helps,
you know, with engagement and reach. So, Michael, thank you so
much for coming on the show.I really love what you're doing. And
I think I will take you upon that trip to the East coast.
I'll make it happen and let's let'sdo a rescue flight. Let's do that.

(01:01:50):
I would love that. Taylor,thank you so much for having me
on. I appreciate it, ofcourse. Yeah, we'll be in touch
and don't forget live the Captain's Lifestyle. Peace,

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