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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Card King here right come.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hell up, music fans, the music collectors, and all hobbyists.
Welcome to the Carking Sports and Variety Show. I am
your host, the Catman, Brian Catequit aka The card King.
We are live on ABC's k M E T fourteen
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thank everyone for tuning in this morning on the program.
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This morning, I welcome in American singer and musician best
known for his work with a heavy metal band Pantera
from nineteen eighty one to eighty six. I welcome in
the legendary Terry Glaze. Terry, great to have you, great
to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Brian, thanks man.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
My pleasure, and you know I want to congratulate you
on your newest release. It came out what about a
month ago, TMF, which from Raised by God's single give
us some information, talk about its formation and all that.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jazz well Raised by Gods as a duo with my
best friend Mike Harrington, who's a drummer, and he lives
out in Los Angeles and I live on the East Coast,
so he records the drums in Los Angeles, and sends
them to me, and then I write the songs and
then I send it back to him and it's a
completed song that he's never heard before. So it's a
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really inspiring backwards kind of a thing. And several years back,
his daughter Alex got cancer and fought through it and
came out on the other side and it's cancer free.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Right after that happened, my daughter Ida got cancer. Oh wow,
ought through it and it's now cancer free. And so
we wrote the lyrics to this song TMF, which stands
for Toughest Mother Fighter. And what we're trying to do
is write a song, like a fight song for anybody
who's going through anything that's you know, tough, but immediately
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but the you know, the immediate idea was our two
kids fighting through cancer, and that's where the song came from.
If you go to our website, Terry Glaze dot com,
you'll just see the link for TMF. Click on it,
and there's a story about the disease and how they
came through it, and we're just trying to inspire anybody
who's having a struggle to get through it. And the
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lyrics are there and it's, uh, it's probably the most
important song I feel like I've ever done. So I'm
really proud of it, and I feel so fortunate that
we all came out on the other side.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh that's really inspiring. You know it's it's it's great
news they came out of it. And you know, we
have a little excerpt or a little clip of your
new single. Let's let's put let's air it now for
the audience to hear awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
To get about. The body's gonna make shops have to
focus on needs to be don tell you, says I
maybe not having f shop to get at is.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm saying, saw him, she couldn't take it.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
He take him with that? You spar I'll I'm gonna
make it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I maybe be down with this fight.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm not ready to go down.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So what you read about shore Life get a follow.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Your glasses go come come off.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm not ready to go down.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So what you read about shore Tony get all.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean, I mean, there's a little sample you just
heard TMF new single by Terry Glaze from Raised by
God's You just heard it here on k n e
T Radio with us. Is the legendary Terry Glaze, I
mean Terry when I hear that, for me, it gets
rid of my depression, gets rid of my worries.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That is exactly what we were trying to do. I'm
so glad you know, if it, if it gives anybody
a lift in their step, We're so thankful.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Great work.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Now again for any everyone listening, Terry, where can they
purchase this? I know you said to go on to
your website, Terry Glaze dot com. Anywhere else they can
purchase this new release.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
That song is everywhere you stream music, so anywhere and
everywhere iTunes everybody you know where at Spotify where we
all go, just you'll find it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It's everywhere, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So let's cook a little bit about your history with Pantera.
You're one of the originals of Pantera frontman rhythm guitarists
right from the early eighties. Now now reading your career,
is it true eighty one around eighty one? You were
originally part of the band as second guitarist.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, when we started the band, we were kids in
high school, Me and my buddy Tommy Bradford, he plays bass.
We wanted to play with a better drummer, and Vince
Abbott was the best drummer.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
In the school. We were juniors in high school.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
It's probably eighty and so we got together and jammed
in my garage and it was really fun, and so
we thought, let's put a band together. So we had
a friend, Donnie Hart, who was our singer. He had
a microphone. Vince's little brother was in middle school, and
Vince did not want to join if if they were
a package deal, so we had to bring a little
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kid from middle school.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
In and thank goodness, we did.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And so we started jamming and Vincent Darrell's father was
a recording studio engineer. So we're in high school and
writing little songs and you know, learning how to do
it and at night going to the recording studio and
recording songs. And their father, Jerry Abbott, was our first manager,
our first sound engineer. Our parents would take us to
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the bars and we would play clubs. Back then, drinking
age was eighteen and me and Vincent we were all sixteen.
I think Daryl was fourteen or fifteen, and we just
got started. We were so lucky to have a complete
system of parents that just you know, backed us in
support system and we just never stopped.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So so to put all the the so to put
all the line up in perspective, the first original members
were Vinnie Paul died Bag, Daryl Terry Glaize yourself and
Tom Bradford.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Right, and Donnie hart Hart, so that there were five
of them.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So so Donnie leaves and it opens the door for
you to become lead singer.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Right. There was nothing that went down other than the
fact that as we started writing our own songs, I
really wanted to sing my own songs. And that's the
only thing that happened. Everything was fine before that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's just, uh, I wanted to sing my own songs,
and Tommy, going into his senior year in high school,
did not want to be in a rock and roll
band as much as he wanted to be in the
marching band at school.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So that opened the door and we brought in Rex
Brown to play bass.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So you so you know, in actuality, you know, looking
at your career, you left your legacy pretty quickly, you know,
pretty swiftly in about five years, with Pantera being on
the first three albums during that glam metal eras sound right.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Right, right, But you know, for a lot of bands,
one album is an eternity. We did three albums, and
it was a great It was a great time to
learn your craft, and I was so thankful for all
the time that I was with the band. It was
the most fun and that was a great feeling to
have a band that good behind you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
When you're on stage, you feel like you can do anything.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So the first three albums, just to remind everyone listening,
you had an eighty three was Metal Magic, eighty four
was Projects in the Jungle, and eighty five I Am
the Night Right and then yeah, now when you look
back at those three pan Terra albums, were you satisfied
When you look back now, were you satisfied with the
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work that you left behind you contributed or was it
anything that you would change as your approach if you
had a time machine to go back to that era.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I wouldn't change anything. You know, we're little kids.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
That first record, we're learning how to do the process
of recording songs.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So first the first record was just a collection of
songs that we had been.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Doing, and we put the record out ourselves through Vincent,
Gil's dad, and then we start playing live and we're
selling records off the bandstand. Between then, between that record
and the second record, we kind of started to become,
you know, a professional band, and we're inspired on that
second record by you know, bands like Motley Crue and
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def Leppard, and so I hear that inspiration on the
second record. The second record is my is my favorite
one that I got to do. And then what changed
after Projects was Metallica happened and Vincent Darrell would hang
out with guys in Metallica and that inspiration comes through
and you can see the music got heavier and I
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Am the Night and that was a lot of fun too.
So we go from listening to def Leppard and Motley
Crue to listening to Metallica and Judas Priest and UFO
and Iron Maiden, So all those influences of your heroes
start to come through your music, and you know, we're
teenagers early twenties learning how to do it. So it
was it was a really great time.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, you know, metal magic.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
A lot of people say there's a lot of sound influencing,
you know, likes of Kiss van Halen.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Absolutely absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And then Projects in the Jungle, a little bit of
Judas Priests is mixed in like a like a sound
of Judas Priest. I don't know if you agree with that.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
One of my favorites priests is the best.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now, let's talk a little bit about your departure from
that group of what exactly happened. You wanted to branch
out and do your own work.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Well, you know, you've heard things like musical differences and
stuff like that, and it it the way I remember it,
That's not what it was. It was just you know,
relationships and personal getting along. You play two hours a day,
that's the best time of your life. It's the other
twenty two hours of the day that you have to
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figure out how to get along. And I think we
just needed a break from each other, you know, So
those two hours on stage every night, we're the greatest.
And I had no problems with any of the music
we did. I love everything we did. Like I said,
the luckiest guy.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I mean, you're right. You guys are like a baseball team,
you like a family.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean you're together all the time, you travel with
each other all the time. Uh, you know, any differences
with Vinnie Paul dine Back, Darryl Bradford, Donnie Hart that
you had that maybe we don't know about any like
arguments anything that you know Newsworthy that you can share
with us.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You know, I'm still best friends with Tommy Bradford.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And uh the last time I saw Darryl was a great,
a great event offstage.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Uh. I saw Vinnie Paul.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Just before Darryl passed and uh now uh we I
always had high hopes that we would get to get
together again sometime and make music.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And and you mentioned dine Back Arrol, who's arguably one
of the top guitarists of all.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Time, all time, all time. Uh. So tragic the way
you know he passed away. If if you go.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Back to that time, did you do you know offhand
if he had any enemies that you know that stirs
you know, you know, crazy enemies that were going to
approach him prior to his death or at the time.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I bet you, I bet you if you did research.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
The guy who the crazy person who killed him probably
was a huge fan of his. Nobody ever, I don't
remember anyone that didn't love Darryl. Daryl was the greatest.
He would give you the shirt off his back and
one of the most kind giving humans that I've ever
been lucky enough to be around.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It is so tragic. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I want to ask you, so, when you left Phil, Anselmo,
the vocalist now for Petera took over. I don't know
how your relationship is with Phil. Uh what do you
see in your heart of Hearts that differs your vocal
style compared to Anselmo's vocal style.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh yeah, apples and oranges. It's just totally two different things. Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, after I left, they they they took a
while to get lucky enough to get Phil. They went
through one, two, three, four, maybe five other singers. And uh,
you know, when we were younger, you're influenced by your
by your heroes, and at that time, Motley Crue was
huge and Iron Maiden and all that style of singing
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back there was you know, I'm singing high and uh,
like I said, influenced by by my my, the bands.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
That I love.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
As the music got heavier and heavy and heaver heavier,
that's Phil's style came in. So I think both styles worked.
When you listen back to the Opantea that I was on,
I think the music sounds very consistent. Rex's bass, Darryl's guitar,
Benny Fall's drums. They were refining it over time, but
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I think they sound very consistent all the way across.
The main difference is, you know, me singing like a
little boy and Phil singing like a grown man, you know,
because that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And uh, I'm very proud of what I did.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
But yeah, I think if you go back and listen
to the only the old songs I was on, the
only songs that are kind of a silly the parts
are my vocals because I couldn't sing like that anymore,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, you're you're right, I mean, And not to take
anything from away from Anselmo, I mean, he's he's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I love what I love what fill did with Pantera.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
H he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But you know, when I hear your sound on those
early Pantera albums, I feel that your sound is explosive.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I mean, you know, it's it's it's it's a it's
a photo, it's a snapshot in time. And at that
time in the early that's kind of how it was,
you know, glam and.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Motley Crue and all that stuff that we were seeing.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And then by the time Pantera breaks huge with Phil
the world has kind of changed and it's much more
heavier and and you know, like I said, it just
it just moved with the times, which thank god, you know,
that's what you got to do.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And we're talking with the legendary vocalist, one of the
well one of the originals of Pantera, Terry Glaze. He's
with us this morning, Terry Glaze. Terry, you know, I
was just thinking, uh, the time that you departed Pantera, Now,
was there any other bands that you were eyeing that
you wish to be you know, that you you wish
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you were part of, or that wanted you to join
their their band.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
There were a couple of bands that reached out to me.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
That I went out and checked out, but they weren't
as good as my band, and so it was a
you know, it was nice to be as but you know, Pantero,
even though we were younger, those three guys were incredible musicians
and we were really great band.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So I wasn't interested at that time.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And uh, in between, after I got out of Pantera,
I uh, you know, talked with a couple other bands,
but ultimately ended up getting my own thing together.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Which thank god I did, because that was the next
best thing I ever did in my life.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, you know, very successful, no question.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But can you mentioned a couple of those bands that
that you had conversations with just out of curiosity because
I'm a big fan of yours.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
The only one that I remember was a band out
of Phoenix called Icon. I flew out there and had
a jam with them, and it was really good. They
ended up going with someone who had much bigger hair
than me. But uh, thank God, like I said, because uh,
like I said, I'm just thankful the way it worked out.
I wouldn't change the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
All right, So you know I have I have a
few minutes left with you. So what's down the pipeline
for you? What do you have going on in the
new your future?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Okay, Well, when COVID hit in twenty twenty, all the
tourist got shut down and all the musicians had to
go home. Well, I tried to do something productive with that.
So I started reaching out to all my heroes who
were stuck at home, and I've been recording remotely with
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them with different people across the world for the last
you know, since twenty twenty, and I'm finally about ready
to start releasing some of this music. Just before COVID,
I put a band together with my friend Tommy Roberts
in Dallas. That's me, Tommy Roberts, Kettley Wolf, and Taz Bentley.
We've put out five or six songs throughout this past
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few years under the name Evil Freely.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
And the way we got the name was we.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Like Evil Knievel and we like Ace Freely, so we
weren't going to go with Ace Knievl, so we wont
with Evil Freely.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So check that out. Evil Freely got a song called
Buddhicom which I love.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Me and my friend Mike Raised by Gods. We just
put out this song TMF. We're really excited about that.
I've got some unreleased Lord Tracy that I'm hoping to
put out later this year. And I've gotten a record
I did right after Lord Tracy with my friends Rob Cooper,
Mike Heineman, No Dave Heineman, Mike Milennan, Rob Cooper. We
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did a record and we're gonna put that out. So
I've got basically like a shoe box of unreleased music
that I'm hoping to put out this year.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I'm really looking forward to the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And you know, Terry, I'm looking at your website again,
Terry Glaize dot com for everyone listening, you're right now.
There was you put out a release a twenty twenty
three a psyche Psyche.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Is that what it is? Psyche?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, so just background on that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
My wife is a big boss at NASA, and uh,
there was a person in charge of a rocket mission
to a heavy metal asteroid and the lady, Lyndy asked me,
she said, would you write me a theme song for
my rocket mission? I said, yes, I will. So that's
what that is. That's a I try to write a
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quote heavy metal song for a heavy metal asteroid, and
that's what that is.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah. I mean you've been busied.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
There's a lot of there's a lot of tracks here
on your website, like a Snake was another one released
a few years.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I've been really
lucky to get to play music.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah. So you know you've traveled.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm assuming you traveled the entire world playing music, and
anyone that you've met through your travels, any other musicians
that you were in awe of that you got a
dream to play with.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Never got to play with them. But I've got to
meet Brian.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
May a couple of times, and I was just in Alle,
you know, but I have not got to jam with
these people, but I've got to meet a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And so yeah, incredible, credible the way the way the
world works.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
When you walk around and turn a corner and there's
a rock star or a famous artist that you that
you grew up loving you.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And so many years in the business terry up from
the early eighties to today, you must have seen so
many changes in the industry. Right.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Oh yeah, in the old days, we used to get
paid for playing music. You know, I was I was
Lord Tracy, Lord Tracy. We late eighties Lord Tracy and
Pantera we both get record deals, huge budgets, video budgets, tours, everything,
And now, uh it is not like that. So you
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gotta you gotta scramble today to be able to continue
to play music. And so I encourage everybody to, you know,
buy music from the artists so they can continue to
keep making music. Uh, it's not as easy as.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It was before.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But you know, you do it because you love it
and you can't not do it. So I feel lucky
that I get to make music every day.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, and you know, I have a lot of musicians
on and they all say the same thing that basically,
the executives they're looking for that one big hit. They're
not looking for the long you know, eight nine track singles.
You know, they're looking for that one big hit to
stand out.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know, in the late fifties it was one hit
wonders and then they in the sixties, they would put
out singles and then if they would collect them and
make a record. Remember when we were younger, you'd buy
the vinyl because you didn't have a choice. You really
only wanted one song, but you bought the vinyl, so
you paid for ten songs. And all of us growing up,
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we had all those records. Thank goodness. The artists were
lucky that they got They got ten times as much
money from us. Because now people pick and choose songs,
and I do the same thing too, You pick and
choose a single here and there, and so it's a
different it's a different style. Also, now with video and YouTube,
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there's not as much of a mystery as what the
show is going to be, you know, So the anticipation
and waiting now it's instant. I want this now, which
is just the way the world has changed, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
So we got a roll with it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, and you know, around two thousand and six, I
remember watching vh ones Behind the Music, Man, You're all
over that, You're you're all over that. I don't know
if you got a chance to recently watch that. I mean,
your appearance is throughout vh Ones Behind the Music Pantera,
So it was definitely.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, they flew I can't remember where they flew me out.
I don't even know where I was. Maybe they flew me.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I think they flew me into Dallas and we did
that over over an extended time.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But that was a great experience. That was really fun.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yes, you know it makes me think that you are
the face off Pantera.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But I'm just glad to be, you know, a footnote
or or mentioned with everybody else. But uh, you know,
that's set me on my life, life path, and I'm
the luckiest, like I said, the luckiest guy.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You ever met.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
My goal usually in every band I get into is
try and be the worst one in the band. And
if you do that, you got a chance to be successful.
And you know, whether it was Pantera or Lord Tracy
or the band's.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
After that and now Raise my Gods.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know, I'm just the luckiest guy in the world,
evil freely getting to still have friends through lifelong friends
and keep making music.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Feel very fortunate and Terry, before I let you go,
my final question to you twenty twenty five Pantera, if
you were managing that group, I think anything that you
would change.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
From what I hear.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They're being very successful and it's a great opportunity for
the young kids to get to celebrate Vincent Dimes music,
you know, and a lot of young people never got
to see him the first time through.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So it's just, you know, a celebration of music.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
And I don't I don't see how you could think
anything other than it's great to celebrate the all the
Pandura's catalog, all.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Right, because you know you you are a pioneer for
that band. So that's why I wanted to ask you, well,
thank you so much. Absolutely so, you want to mention
before we say goodbye, you want to mention your website
again and where they can get the everyone can get
the new single.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Sure, new single, Raised by Gods. It's called TMF.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
My name's Terry Glaze, My website's t E R R
Y g l a Ze dot com, Terry Glaze dot com.
Uh all, my music is everywhere you download music, iTunes, Spotify,
all those places where you wherever you get your music,
and uh hit me up on Facebook and Instagram and whatever,
and everybody, keep it alive, keep the spirit alive, and
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keep keep making art and support artists.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You just heard rock icon Terry Glaze of Panterra. Terry,
thanks so much. We'll speak soon. Thank you, Brian, Best
day you two until next week, Happy collecting to all,
Card King here right come.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hell up, music fans, the music collectors, and all hobbyists.
Welcome to the Carking Sports and Variety Show. I am
your host, the Catman, Brian Catequit aka The card King.
We are live on ABC's k M E T fourteen
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thank everyone for tuning in this morning on the program.
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This morning, I welcome in American singer and musician best
known for his work with a heavy metal band Pantera
from nineteen eighty one to eighty six. I welcome in
the legendary Terry Glaze. Terry, great to have you, great
to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Brian, thanks man.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
My pleasure, and you know I want to congratulate you
on your newest release. It came out what about a
month ago, TMF, which from Raised by God's single give
us some information, talk about its formation and all that.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jazz well Raised by Gods as a duo with my
best friend Mike Harrington, who's a drummer, and he lives
out in Los Angeles and I live on the East Coast,
so he records the drums in Los Angeles, and sends
them to me, and then I write the songs and
then I send it back to him and it's a
completed song that he's never heard before. So it's a
(01:28):
really inspiring backwards kind of a thing. And several years back,
his daughter Alex got cancer and fought through it and
came out on the other side and it's cancer free.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Right after that happened, my daughter Ida got cancer. Oh wow,
ought through it and it's now cancer free. And so
we wrote the lyrics to this song TMF, which stands
for Toughest Mother Fighter. And what we're trying to do
is write a song, like a fight song for anybody
who's going through anything that's you know, tough, but immediately
(02:04):
but the you know, the immediate idea was our two
kids fighting through cancer, and that's where the song came from.
If you go to our website, Terry Glaze dot com,
you'll just see the link for TMF. Click on it,
and there's a story about the disease and how they
came through it, and we're just trying to inspire anybody
who's having a struggle to get through it. And the
(02:26):
lyrics are there and it's, uh, it's probably the most
important song I feel like I've ever done. So I'm
really proud of it, and I feel so fortunate that
we all came out on the other side.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh that's really inspiring. You know it's it's it's great
news they came out of it. And you know, we
have a little excerpt or a little clip of your
new single. Let's let's put let's air it now for
the audience to hear awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
To get about. The body's gonna make shops have to
focus on needs to be don tell you, says I
maybe not having f shop to get at is.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm saying, saw him, she couldn't take it.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
He take him with that? You spar I'll I'm gonna
make it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I maybe be down with this fight.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I'm not ready to go down.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So what you read about shore Life get a follow.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Your glasses go come come off.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm not ready to go down.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So what you read about shore Tony get all.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I mean, I mean, there's a little sample you just
heard TMF new single by Terry Glaze from Raised by
God's You just heard it here on k n e
T Radio with us. Is the legendary Terry Glaze, I
mean Terry when I hear that, for me, it gets
rid of my depression, gets rid of my worries.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
That is exactly what we were trying to do. I'm
so glad you know, if it, if it gives anybody
a lift in their step, We're so thankful.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Great work.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Now again for any everyone listening, Terry, where can they
purchase this? I know you said to go on to
your website, Terry Glaze dot com. Anywhere else they can
purchase this new release.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
That song is everywhere you stream music, so anywhere and
everywhere iTunes everybody you know where at Spotify where we
all go, just you'll find it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It's everywhere, all right.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So let's cook a little bit about your history with Pantera.
You're one of the originals of Pantera frontman rhythm guitarists
right from the early eighties. Now now reading your career,
is it true eighty one around eighty one? You were
originally part of the band as second guitarist.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Well, when we started the band, we were kids in
high school, Me and my buddy Tommy Bradford, he plays bass.
We wanted to play with a better drummer, and Vince
Abbott was the best drummer.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
In the school. We were juniors in high school.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
It's probably eighty and so we got together and jammed
in my garage and it was really fun, and so
we thought, let's put a band together. So we had
a friend, Donnie Hart, who was our singer. He had
a microphone. Vince's little brother was in middle school, and
Vince did not want to join if if they were
a package deal, so we had to bring a little
(05:59):
kid from middle school.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
In and thank goodness, we did.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
And so we started jamming and Vincent Darrell's father was
a recording studio engineer. So we're in high school and
writing little songs and you know, learning how to do
it and at night going to the recording studio and
recording songs. And their father, Jerry Abbott, was our first manager,
our first sound engineer. Our parents would take us to
(06:24):
the bars and we would play clubs. Back then, drinking
age was eighteen and me and Vincent we were all sixteen.
I think Daryl was fourteen or fifteen, and we just
got started. We were so lucky to have a complete
system of parents that just you know, backed us in
support system and we just never stopped.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
So so to put all the the so to put
all the line up in perspective, the first original members
were Vinnie Paul died Bag, Daryl Terry Glaize yourself and
Tom Bradford.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Right, and Donnie hart Hart, so that there were five
of them.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So so Donnie leaves and it opens the door for
you to become lead singer.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Right. There was nothing that went down other than the
fact that as we started writing our own songs, I
really wanted to sing my own songs. And that's the
only thing that happened. Everything was fine before that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
It's just, uh, I wanted to sing my own songs,
and Tommy, going into his senior year in high school,
did not want to be in a rock and roll
band as much as he wanted to be in the
marching band at school.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
So that opened the door and we brought in Rex
Brown to play bass.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
So you so you know, in actuality, you know, looking
at your career, you left your legacy pretty quickly, you know,
pretty swiftly in about five years, with Pantera being on
the first three albums during that glam metal eras sound right.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Right, right, But you know, for a lot of bands,
one album is an eternity. We did three albums, and
it was a great It was a great time to
learn your craft, and I was so thankful for all
the time that I was with the band. It was
the most fun and that was a great feeling to
have a band that good behind you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
When you're on stage, you feel like you can do anything.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
So the first three albums, just to remind everyone listening,
you had an eighty three was Metal Magic, eighty four
was Projects in the Jungle, and eighty five I Am
the Night Right and then yeah, now when you look
back at those three pan Terra albums, were you satisfied
When you look back now, were you satisfied with the
(08:35):
work that you left behind you contributed or was it
anything that you would change as your approach if you
had a time machine to go back to that era.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I wouldn't change anything. You know, we're little kids.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
That first record, we're learning how to do the process
of recording songs.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So first the first record was just a collection of
songs that we had been.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Doing, and we put the record out ourselves through Vincent,
Gil's dad, and then we start playing live and we're
selling records off the bandstand. Between then, between that record
and the second record, we kind of started to become,
you know, a professional band, and we're inspired on that
second record by you know, bands like Motley Crue and
(09:18):
def Leppard, and so I hear that inspiration on the
second record. The second record is my is my favorite
one that I got to do. And then what changed
after Projects was Metallica happened and Vincent Darrell would hang
out with guys in Metallica and that inspiration comes through
and you can see the music got heavier and I
(09:39):
Am the Night and that was a lot of fun too.
So we go from listening to def Leppard and Motley
Crue to listening to Metallica and Judas Priest and UFO
and Iron Maiden, So all those influences of your heroes
start to come through your music, and you know, we're
teenagers early twenties learning how to do it. So it
was it was a really great time.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, you know, metal magic.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
A lot of people say there's a lot of sound influencing,
you know, likes of Kiss van Halen.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Absolutely absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And then Projects in the Jungle, a little bit of
Judas Priests is mixed in like a like a sound
of Judas Priest. I don't know if you agree with that.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
One of my favorites priests is the best.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Now, let's talk a little bit about your departure from
that group of what exactly happened. You wanted to branch
out and do your own work.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Well, you know, you've heard things like musical differences and
stuff like that, and it it the way I remember it,
That's not what it was. It was just you know,
relationships and personal getting along. You play two hours a day,
that's the best time of your life. It's the other
twenty two hours of the day that you have to
(10:53):
figure out how to get along. And I think we
just needed a break from each other, you know, So
those two hours on stage every night, we're the greatest.
And I had no problems with any of the music
we did. I love everything we did. Like I said,
the luckiest guy.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I mean, you're right. You guys are like a baseball team,
you like a family.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I mean you're together all the time, you travel with
each other all the time. Uh, you know, any differences
with Vinnie Paul dine Back, Darryl Bradford, Donnie Hart that
you had that maybe we don't know about any like
arguments anything that you know Newsworthy that you can share
with us.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
You know, I'm still best friends with Tommy Bradford.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
And uh the last time I saw Darryl was a great,
a great event offstage.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Uh. I saw Vinnie Paul.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Just before Darryl passed and uh now uh we I
always had high hopes that we would get to get
together again sometime and make music.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I love those guys.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And and you mentioned dine Back Arrol, who's arguably one
of the top guitarists of all.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Time, all time, all time. Uh. So tragic the way
you know he passed away. If if you go.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Back to that time, did you do you know offhand
if he had any enemies that you know that stirs
you know, you know, crazy enemies that were going to
approach him prior to his death or at the time.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I bet you, I bet you if you did research.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
The guy who the crazy person who killed him probably
was a huge fan of his. Nobody ever, I don't
remember anyone that didn't love Darryl. Daryl was the greatest.
He would give you the shirt off his back and
one of the most kind giving humans that I've ever
been lucky enough to be around.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What a tragedy.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
It is so tragic. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I want to ask you, so, when you left Phil, Anselmo,
the vocalist now for Petera took over. I don't know
how your relationship is with Phil. Uh what do you
see in your heart of Hearts that differs your vocal
style compared to Anselmo's vocal style.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Oh yeah, apples and oranges. It's just totally two different things. Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know, after I left, they they they took a
while to get lucky enough to get Phil. They went
through one, two, three, four, maybe five other singers. And uh,
you know, when we were younger, you're influenced by your
by your heroes, and at that time, Motley Crue was
huge and Iron Maiden and all that style of singing
(13:41):
back there was you know, I'm singing high and uh,
like I said, influenced by by my my, the bands.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
That I love.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
As the music got heavier and heavy and heaver heavier,
that's Phil's style came in. So I think both styles worked.
When you listen back to the Opantea that I was on,
I think the music sounds very consistent. Rex's bass, Darryl's guitar,
Benny Fall's drums. They were refining it over time, but
(14:10):
I think they sound very consistent all the way across.
The main difference is, you know, me singing like a
little boy and Phil singing like a grown man, you know,
because that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And uh, I'm very proud of what I did.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
But yeah, I think if you go back and listen
to the only the old songs I was on, the
only songs that are kind of a silly the parts
are my vocals because I couldn't sing like that anymore,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
No, you're you're right, I mean, And not to take
anything from away from Anselmo, I mean, he's he's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I love what I love what fill did with Pantera.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
H he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But you know, when I hear your sound on those
early Pantera albums, I feel that your sound is explosive.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I mean, you know, it's it's it's it's a it's
a photo, it's a snapshot in time. And at that
time in the early that's kind of how it was,
you know, glam and.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Motley Crue and all that stuff that we were seeing.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
And then by the time Pantera breaks huge with Phil
the world has kind of changed and it's much more
heavier and and you know, like I said, it just
it just moved with the times, which thank god, you know,
that's what you got to do.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And we're talking with the legendary vocalist, one of the
well one of the originals of Pantera, Terry Glaze. He's
with us this morning, Terry Glaze. Terry, you know, I
was just thinking, uh, the time that you departed Pantera, Now,
was there any other bands that you were eyeing that
you wish to be you know, that you you wish
(15:43):
you were part of, or that wanted you to join
their their band.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
There were a couple of bands that reached out to me.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
That I went out and checked out, but they weren't
as good as my band, and so it was a
you know, it was nice to be as but you know, Pantero,
even though we were younger, those three guys were incredible musicians
and we were really great band.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
So I wasn't interested at that time.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
And uh, in between, after I got out of Pantera,
I uh, you know, talked with a couple other bands,
but ultimately ended up getting my own thing together.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Which thank god I did, because that was the next
best thing I ever did in my life.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, you know, very successful, no question.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
But can you mentioned a couple of those bands that
that you had conversations with just out of curiosity because
I'm a big fan of yours.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
The only one that I remember was a band out
of Phoenix called Icon. I flew out there and had
a jam with them, and it was really good. They
ended up going with someone who had much bigger hair
than me. But uh, thank God, like I said, because uh,
like I said, I'm just thankful the way it worked out.
I wouldn't change the thing.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
All right, So you know I have I have a
few minutes left with you. So what's down the pipeline
for you? What do you have going on in the
new your future?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Okay, Well, when COVID hit in twenty twenty, all the
tourist got shut down and all the musicians had to
go home. Well, I tried to do something productive with that.
So I started reaching out to all my heroes who
were stuck at home, and I've been recording remotely with
(17:21):
them with different people across the world for the last
you know, since twenty twenty, and I'm finally about ready
to start releasing some of this music. Just before COVID,
I put a band together with my friend Tommy Roberts
in Dallas. That's me, Tommy Roberts, Kettley Wolf, and Taz Bentley.
We've put out five or six songs throughout this past
(17:44):
few years under the name Evil Freely.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
And the way we got the name was we.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Like Evil Knievel and we like Ace Freely, so we
weren't going to go with Ace Knievl, so we wont
with Evil Freely.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So check that out. Evil Freely got a song called
Buddhicom which I love.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Me and my friend Mike Raised by Gods. We just
put out this song TMF. We're really excited about that.
I've got some unreleased Lord Tracy that I'm hoping to
put out later this year. And I've gotten a record
I did right after Lord Tracy with my friends Rob Cooper,
Mike Heineman, No Dave Heineman, Mike Milennan, Rob Cooper. We
(18:24):
did a record and we're gonna put that out. So
I've got basically like a shoe box of unreleased music
that I'm hoping to put out this year.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I'm really looking forward to the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
And you know, Terry, I'm looking at your website again,
Terry Glaize dot com for everyone listening, you're right now.
There was you put out a release a twenty twenty
three a psyche Psyche.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Is that what it is? Psyche?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, so just background on that.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
My wife is a big boss at NASA, and uh,
there was a person in charge of a rocket mission
to a heavy metal asteroid and the lady, Lyndy asked me,
she said, would you write me a theme song for
my rocket mission? I said, yes, I will. So that's
what that is. That's a I try to write a
(19:13):
quote heavy metal song for a heavy metal asteroid, and
that's what that is.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah. I mean you've been busied.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
There's a lot of there's a lot of tracks here
on your website, like a Snake was another one released
a few years.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah. I've been really
lucky to get to play music.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah. So you know you've traveled.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm assuming you traveled the entire world playing music, and
anyone that you've met through your travels, any other musicians
that you were in awe of that you got a
dream to play with.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Never got to play with them. But I've got to
meet Brian.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
May a couple of times, and I was just in Alle,
you know, but I have not got to jam with
these people, but I've got to meet a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And so yeah, incredible, credible the way the way the
world works.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
When you walk around and turn a corner and there's
a rock star or a famous artist that you that
you grew up loving you.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
And so many years in the business terry up from
the early eighties to today, you must have seen so
many changes in the industry. Right.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Oh yeah, in the old days, we used to get
paid for playing music. You know, I was I was
Lord Tracy, Lord Tracy. We late eighties Lord Tracy and
Pantera we both get record deals, huge budgets, video budgets, tours, everything,
And now, uh it is not like that. So you
(20:37):
gotta you gotta scramble today to be able to continue
to play music. And so I encourage everybody to, you know,
buy music from the artists so they can continue to
keep making music. Uh, it's not as easy as.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
It was before.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But you know, you do it because you love it
and you can't not do it. So I feel lucky
that I get to make music every day.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yeah, and you know, I have a lot of musicians
on and they all say the same thing that basically,
the executives they're looking for that one big hit. They're
not looking for the long you know, eight nine track singles.
You know, they're looking for that one big hit to
stand out.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
You know, in the late fifties it was one hit
wonders and then they in the sixties, they would put
out singles and then if they would collect them and
make a record. Remember when we were younger, you'd buy
the vinyl because you didn't have a choice. You really
only wanted one song, but you bought the vinyl, so
you paid for ten songs. And all of us growing up,
(21:35):
we had all those records. Thank goodness. The artists were
lucky that they got They got ten times as much
money from us. Because now people pick and choose songs,
and I do the same thing too, You pick and
choose a single here and there, and so it's a
different it's a different style. Also, now with video and YouTube,
(21:55):
there's not as much of a mystery as what the
show is going to be, you know, So the anticipation
and waiting now it's instant. I want this now, which
is just the way the world has changed, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
So we got a roll with it.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, and you know, around two thousand and six, I
remember watching vh ones Behind the Music, Man, You're all
over that, You're you're all over that. I don't know
if you got a chance to recently watch that. I mean,
your appearance is throughout vh Ones Behind the Music Pantera,
So it was definitely.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah, they flew I can't remember where they flew me out.
I don't even know where I was. Maybe they flew me.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I think they flew me into Dallas and we did
that over over an extended time.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
But that was a great experience. That was really fun.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yes, you know it makes me think that you are
the face off Pantera.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
But I'm just glad to be, you know, a footnote
or or mentioned with everybody else. But uh, you know,
that's set me on my life, life path, and I'm
the luckiest, like I said, the luckiest guy.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
You ever met.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
My goal usually in every band I get into is
try and be the worst one in the band. And
if you do that, you got a chance to be successful.
And you know, whether it was Pantera or Lord Tracy
or the band's.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
After that and now Raise my Gods.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know, I'm just the luckiest guy in the world,
evil freely getting to still have friends through lifelong friends
and keep making music.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Feel very fortunate and Terry, before I let you go,
my final question to you twenty twenty five Pantera, if
you were managing that group, I think anything that you
would change.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
From what I hear.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
They're being very successful and it's a great opportunity for
the young kids to get to celebrate Vincent Dimes music,
you know, and a lot of young people never got
to see him the first time through.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So it's just, you know, a celebration of music.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
And I don't I don't see how you could think
anything other than it's great to celebrate the all the
Pandura's catalog, all.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Right, because you know you you are a pioneer for
that band. So that's why I wanted to ask you, well,
thank you so much. Absolutely so, you want to mention
before we say goodbye, you want to mention your website
again and where they can get the everyone can get
the new single.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Sure, new single, Raised by Gods. It's called TMF.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
My name's Terry Glaze, My website's t E R R
Y g l a Ze dot com, Terry Glaze dot com.
Uh all, my music is everywhere you download music, iTunes, Spotify,
all those places where you wherever you get your music,
and uh hit me up on Facebook and Instagram and whatever,
and everybody, keep it alive, keep the spirit alive, and
(24:49):
keep keep making art and support artists.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You just heard rock icon Terry Glaze of Panterra. Terry,
thanks so much. We'll speak soon. Thank you, Brian, Best
day you two until next week, Happy collecting to all,
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