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April 3, 2023 55 mins
The Change Zone warmly presents episode 67 "People as Things with Mac Bogert!" Warmly presents people as things you might enquire mildly, your eyebrows rising. And yet, Gail MacDonald and Susan Sneath know Mac Bogert. Mac brings lively conversations of warmth and snap. He finds opportunities to help people explore, clarify, and challenge what they have been told they should be because of their labels.
Colin D. Smith notes "An incredibly, deep, insightful, and thoughtful man, Mac is, as many of us know so well. A joy to spend time being with him."

We will look at three themes of interest in this powerful and sometimes controversial topic: Things (a recent blog post), Character over Category (an ongoing project spread through conversations), and Gender Crap, a pro bono book project to reach the marketplace of ideas May 15th.
Remember, there is only one authority for self – you!!!

Where can you find Mac Bogert?
LinkedIn: https://lnkd.ingV79BHiz
Website:www.azalearning.com; www.gendercrap.com
Amazon : Humanity@Work, Gender Crap (as of May 15)
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