September 24, 2025 • 51 mins
Coach Les Talks To Jeff Hauser (Sporting News) About the College Football Landscape
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Does it bad?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Nobody I can come closer that close.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
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main man fifty grand Jeff howser on Jeff, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Brother? Oh man? Long time no talk. I've been good, man,
I've been good.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You were Sporting Sporting News now, huh Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I made the jump to Sporting News and it's it's
been good covering college football for them over there.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's it's been a good go okay for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
For sure, Man, we're gonna have to get together at
a game somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I don't know. Uh, one of one of the Well.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You you're out there in sec A CC, Yes, but
you're sec ACC world, So you're you're, you're, you're the
thick of it.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Okay, here there everywhere, just waiting to see what Week
five brings, and man, a bunch of good matchups going
on around the nation.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Hey but before yeah, but before we jump into that,
I just mentioned ACC. Dude, Dabbo Sweeney one in three
right now, couldn't happen to a better guy if you
ask me, uh so, I know that's that's that's that's
hating at its finest. But he couldn't happen to a
better guy. He's one and three, and from the looks
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of the schedule that's coming up, there's some more als
coming in his direction.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yes, a lot more at least you could predict that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We we don't know how the season will shake out,
how everything will will lay itself out, but you know,
he they do have the bye week this week.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
They needed Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
North Carolina and they're gonna meet each other coming off
of a bye so that's gonna be a very interesting matchup.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But you're right, there is a.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Lot of turmoil right now internally at Clemson just trying
to figure everything out. You know, this is a new
this new landscape of college football has really morphed to
finding coaches like Davo who have that old style of
thought and really pushed them behind.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And you know these some.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Of these coaches are trying to play catchup, as we
saw with Oklahoma States.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Might got ya this week. He got fired a day ago.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, and you know that there was a.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Lot of internal conversation about does he retain his job,
will he stay around in Stillwater? And I kind of
thought that he would given his tenure at the school.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
But I mean the writing was on the wall as
of last year. You're talking about in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
State team that had no big twelve wins last season.
So the leash got really short. And if Dabble continues
to lose, that leash is going to get even shorter.
But you know, to the teams that he's traced into
their credit, they ran into a good LSU team right
out of the gate, and Brian Kelly shook off that
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early season jitter that he has had ever since he's
been down in the VAYU. And you know that the
Tigers actually look good in the SEC right now as
the one of the SEC favorites. Whether they stay on
the tracks, I guess we'll see. But then also, you
hit a Georgia Tech team.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I was just about to say that on.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
The seconds with a one hack of a field goal,
and then to roll from that to Syracuse.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean it just the losses just keep getting worse
and worse. For Clemson.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
They started the season ring number four, so this wasn't
a team that came into the season and then they
went to the playoff last year.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But the last year.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, but think about something though, Jeff Davos Sweeney. You know,
I'm not gonna compare him to Nick Saban, but I'm
saying they're always going to be ranked in the top
ten or top five just because of the school, which
I think is unfair because I don't think coming in
they should have been ranked that high.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh, I would agree with you, but given who I mean,
you had to give k club.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Nick under center. They have a ton of stars on
that offense, and they have some good defenders as well.
You know, you gotta give him that shape given what
they did last year to get there.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But you're right, I mean, I think the preseason poll
is really impredictable, and we've now seen what can happen
in a moment's notice, especially for for Gabbo.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I mean that he got up one week and he's
spouting off for all of us. Oh did you hear that? Yep, yep.
I was getting to that. I was getting to that next.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I think I'm gonna tell you right now that
right there could be the reason that they get rid
of him, because now he's saying without he's saying it, basically,
Clemson is mine. I Bill Clemson. No one else did,
and that's just how he sounded.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
He did.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But you know, at the tail end of that conversation
he did say, you know, if Clinton wants to, if
they want to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Get rid of me, they can send me packing on
my way. But I'm not going to the beach. And
I mean, if that's a communication, he's gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
If okay, least on his own or he gets fired.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Okay, But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
What Power five team, unless they're unless they're you know,
and I hate to say this, unless they're like Vanderbilt
or somebody. What Power five team is going to take him?
With his own way of thinking.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, I mean he's gotta adapt. He has to change that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
This is not the this is not the the amateurism
that was in college football, even in college sports.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Is not what it is now. It's it's not whatever
this is. This is a semipro.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Model, is moving more and more towards the NFL system
of a year round conglomerate, if you will, And then
they're adopting more and more of the NFL rules and regulations.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
So, I mean, he can't keep that same style of thought.
I think that he gets it now. He was way
behind in the transfer portal. Oh yeah, he came out
and said, I'm not gonna hint up the transfer portal. Yep,
I don't believe in it. I gotta recruit.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, you found out real quick that all these other
teams that use the transfer portal to their advantage.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I'm surging past him.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, he's he's way behind the eight ball. He's going
to figure out how to make this all happen. Now,
Clipson does have resources lists.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So let's not for Oh yeah, they do.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But in order to use those resources, the coach has
got to be willing to say I want to use
those resources.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
No, absolutely, And either to answer your question there are
Power five teams out there who would want sweety, but
he has to show an initiative to come of age.
And it's the same reason why Nick Saban left the game.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You know, it was good for him while it lasted.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, but if other teams were in other programs are
doing it, No, I mean it wasn't. It wasn't for him,
and that's why he said, no, I can't do this,
because these kids are gonna be.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Making millions, and why he can. Yeah, I'm the only
millionaire in this equation exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know, I get it, I get it. I get
it speaking of it, since you brought up, since you
brought up saving dude, what is going on with Alabama?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Can de Bourne is doing what he can?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Wait wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Here's my thing
with that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
They brought him in as if he was gonna come
in and shake up everything and keep everything going because
of his season at Washington or his coaching at Washington.
From the beginning, I didn't think that was a great
fit because what he brought from the Pac twelve was
not gonna work in sec.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, and you're realizing that this is not Alabama what
it used to be.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, you know, because you had Saving and his staff
hitting the ground hard in areas and they were bringing
in kids who they knew would be a good fit,
and they had a ton of resources to do that.
But you're seeing that play out over the course of
you know, the last twenty years.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But I will give killing Bore a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Credit because I think that he understands that he's not
Saving and that's something that you know, he's trying to
create his own pathway there in Tuscaloosa, where you know,
a lot of coaches that that's a high profile job
coming right after Saban, who had tremendous success and is
considered one of the greatest of all time in the
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college game, if not probably the realm of coaching either
in the NFL or in.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
College, you know, between the two. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Just think that if you're looking at this Alabama squad,
they're just they're an average team.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Again, you know, before Nick Saban got there, Yes, oh.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely, I mean and even the first couple of years
of Save him was there before he actually started.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well that that well, that first that first year Saban
still went to a Bowl. If I'm not mistaken, You're right,
he went to a bowl. He just wasn't he just
wasn't that that national championship, Nick Saban. But at that
second year he started to win again because he knows
how to go out and recruit. Here, here's what and
this is something else. I think people fail to realize
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when it comes to Nick Saban. I think everyone, including
people just watching it. Nick Saban doesn't go after four
and five star athletes. He goes after two and threes.
They become five star athletes after he talks to them,
And I think people don't realize that, and they need
to look it up and see they are actually two
and three uh stars, they're not five. Minute he talks
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to him, though they shoot him all the way up.
That's I guess that's the Nick Saban effect.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Could be.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, and I see what you're talking about because some
of the the outlets who do star rankings, you.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Know there, there's there's some bias there and.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They they vote between who they who they view is
the next upcoming star.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And you know too, for what.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Saban did in Alabama, though you don't think that we're
ever going to see that. On another level, We're not
going to see another dynasty run at least not in
the playoff format that we saw. The only thing, the
only similar model to that is Ohio State. But even
Ohio State will falter a year here, a year there.
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It won't be consistent to the point where it was
with Nick Saban. So you got to give him a
lot of credit for what he brought to the game.
And and uh, you know, continues to bring in some fashions.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No, that's true. Last year.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I uh, I watched a lot of Indiana games this year.
I'm gonna be honest with you. At the beginning of
the season, I was like, I'm not watching him. He
had that one good year. He's gonna be he's playing
in the big team. He had one good year. This
dude is kicking buttocks again.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, is for real.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I want to ask you something, though I don't mean
to cut you up, but I wan't ask you something.
What Where is he getting these players? What? Because, dude,
when I hear the names and he's a he's a
guy full of two and three stars too and transfer kids,
where the hell is he getting these kind of studs?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's he a pition me of a real coach. Wow,
there's nothing else that you can say about it. Cursik
Nitty's doing what he can to make everything work in Indiana,
and it's working.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, he's going after these kids and he's finding
them in in that belt around the round Ohio is
around the region.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
They're kind of in the Midwest, if you will. But
then he's.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He's not afraid to to dip his paws and in
the the stands of Florida or even down in Texas.
And you know, it's it's an all out, it's an
all recruiting blitz.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And you know he's also pulling in players from.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
The transfer portal, Yeah, that are willing to come there
and do good things.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But what they're doing on the field is just it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And you know, I know that a lot of people
are upset at him for trying to run up a score,
but you know he.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I know, he doesn't care. No, he doesn't, he doesn't.
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Do you remember his interview when he first got the
Indiana uh two years ago and and the reporter said
something to him and said basically like who are you?
He said, pull me up on Wikipedia. That's what he
said in the press conference. So this is a guy
that's very confident in himself. And I'm sure she looked
she looked.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
At me was exuded this week?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh my goodness, did you look at what he.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Said about Iowa? And you know, for for some that's
a trap gick. You have a very hot Indiana team
going into Iowa, and you know, some may consider that
one of the underrated matchups of the week. But if
Indiana has done what they what they strive to do
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this season, and what they've done in the last couple
of weeks, if I'm in if I'm Iowa looking at
this matchup, I'm wondering to myself, are we going to
be the next you know, sixty point blowout? Because look
at the way that they handled Indiana or Illinois Alloy
they were number nine in the nation.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah wow, the number nineteen in the nation.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And then with that win, Indiana went from nineteen to
eleventh in the country.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
They should have never been that low anyway, because if
we're talking about based off the years, and even though
Indiana only.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Had really that really great year last year.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The way I was just talking about Dabbo getting in
the top five just because it's Clemson, he should have
been He should have got a better shot at it too,
And I'm sure he'll let us know about it if
he wins a few more games, because he's that kind
of guy.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And I mean Illinois came into that game very cocky.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Oh yes, and they knew it.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
They they thought that they were that they were running
in there, and that they were the fighting and line
I and you know that they were one of the
favorites in the Big ten outside of you know, Ohio
State or or a Penn State, and you know, to
give them to push him into the top ten, I
mean that that was a stretch to begin with, but
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then to see what Indiana did to them, it's like, yikes, that's.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We we all understand the pecking order.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But then you gotta ask yourself this question, is Indiana
going to be that team that everybody fears to face this.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Year in the Big twelve? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean you just got to ask yourself because for Indiana,
if if you're thinking about this season, about what they
want to do, which is of course get back to
the playoff.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But man, I mean they have a stretch of games
after Iowa. I mean, they have a bye week and
then they go and play at Oregon, you know, and
we'll see what Oregon does this week.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Against Penn State.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's gonna be one magic to watch because you're putting
together or you're putting together two really good coaching minds
and Dan Lanning and and James Franklin to see what
they could do. But then you know, there towards the
end of the stretch, they do have to go to
Happy Valley three games before the finale to play Penn State.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So we're talking.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
About if this Indiana team gets a ton of confidence
and if they go into Autsin and knock off the Ducks,
we're gonna be talking about this Indiana, this Indiana team
as being a for real content.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, yeah, I agree with that, and I say something else.
So I'm not a big fan of Landy, but I will.
I almost want to say guaranteed. Like Charles Barkley, I
think he'll be in the NFL in three years. I
can see that because he fits the model temperament is
good for the NFL. Oh, well, it'll have to change
because those players are't gonna deal with it. It'll change
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immediately because he comes in there and says one wrong
thing to one of those players. They're gonna be fine
for hitting him or throwing them across the table.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I just wonder. You know, there are some coaches
that are cut out for.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
The NFL because they understand that that's the route that
they're trying to go to get there. And you know,
like for instance with Dabos Sweeney, Dabo Sweeney can not
go to the NFL. No, no no way, shape or form.
I mean, he is good for the college game because
that's what suits him. And it's a lot like Saban
I mean, Saved had to find out the hard way
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by coaching in Miami Dolphins. Yeah, and you know he
did good, he led them to winning seasons, but you
know that those gap years for him, he realized real
quick that this wasn't for him.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, the pro and college game is two different animals,
especially when it comes to when it comes to men
against and not calling college guys that they're not men
but they're not quite there yet. They're not quite there yet.
But the NFL player is not gonna hit it. I
can remember when Mike Shanahan got into it with I
can't remember his name, when they asked him something that
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practice one day, they say, are you gonna be playing
next week, and he said, you got to go up
there and ask that little man up there. That's the
little man that's in charge. I can't remember his name,
the one that came in and got all of the money.
Was it Albert I can't think of his name, but
that's what he said to the news. I think Channel
nine news is I go ask a little man up there.
I don't know if I'm playing or not. I was like, Wow,
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they traded him. They traded him next week.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It sounds about on part for Shanahan. Yeah. Yeah, So
another another.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Coach who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
and hopefully he gets it one day.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
He will.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But you're you're a Homer though you're a Broncos lover. Uh,
let's get back.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
We all know that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We know that, So I'm not hating. I'm just saying
you're a Bronco fan. But he does deserve to be
in there.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Nonetheless, you're still out a Bronco fan. Hey, so that
who I know? You have a Heisman vote right now?
Who are you looking at as winning the highs? Let
me give you two questions as the Heisman front runner,
and what do you think about manliness.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I can't tell you who I have. No I said
front runner, your front runner.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I can't tell you who I have is my front
runner because I don't even think that there's one.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Nobody right now.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
This year is tough because nobody's really broken out and
put up the numbers that is just like, ah, look
at this guy. You know, he's he's doing things. We
all thought that that would be Arch Manning at this
point down in Texas and lo and behold. You know,
he had a rough start in that high state game
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to start the season and then he really hasn't picked
up anything since he beat Sam Houston State last week
at you know, not really a signature win, but he
got back on track.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
He shook off some of that rust that he had, and.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Really people have speculated if he's injured right now, at
least from the signs that he's showing others during games.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You know, he's he has gone and.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Grabbed his arm in a in a heavy, heavy, deep
pain after throwing. So some have speculated if he's playing injured,
but you know, he still is entering a pretty stout
slate of SEC games. Yeah, he's gonna have to prove
himself time and time again, I mean, this is this
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doesn't just stand on his background is being Cooper's son
and uh, you know, having Peyton and Eli as as
an uncle. Okay, where he's really gonna have to stand
alone on his own.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, you know, as of right now, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, I mean, well, if that's the case, then Jeff
talking to Jeff Howison's Sporting News. Hey, Jeff, Now, if
that's the case, then that means that Arts can start
to roll off games and he could be back in
the hunt for the Heisman. You know, I I mean
you said, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But I just the head to head competition that he
had early with Ohio State really exposed a lot of
his game.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And made him look average.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And that that's you know, it's not my words, is
what some of the pundits have called him.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
It's just an average quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So I think time the jury is still out on
him and if he can get back into being the
kind of the kind of favorite, I don't I don't
even know favorite is the right word to call him
at this point, because I think that he's done some damage.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Should I mean, that was a that was a huge.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Game in the moment that if you step back and look,
you know, you's got to say.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Well, shoot, what can he do to get back in it?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And and really, is he going to have some type
of like aha moment in the ace in the sec
slate to push him forward?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, it's a valid question.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I honestly think he will, because all he has to
do is prove himself what maybe two good teams and
they'll be talking about him again because he's gonna beat
the teams that he should beat.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
But but how I understand that, and I understand your logic,
But then you also have three really good quarterbacks ahead.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Of him right now.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean, you got Carson back down in Miami everything right,
you know, coming over from Georgia, there was a lot
of speculation on what how his transfer might go back
home because he's a kid from Florida.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But it's gone good for the Canes and for him.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But then there's also Dante mood in Oregon who's shined,
and then you.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Know Fernanda Mendoza Indiana.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
All three very good signal callers who I would say
at this point, and you know, I would even throw
Juli Aguilar in there from Tennessee. So there's four really
good cornerbacks ahead of Arch and Garrett Neusmeyer from Ye
there's five really good signal callers who I would say
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right now are ahead in the favorite pool ahead of Arch.
I think the Arch has really done damage to to
that he's gonna have to come in and take just
grab those reins and will Texas into looking almost like
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a contender in the ACC side of the schedule. Otherwise
if it's not gonna happen for him.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, that's fair enough, that's fair enough. Uh, we had
we we we talked about Alabama. But what about Georgia.
How do you just is Georgia legit this year? Because
to me, last year they weren't legit. They got in
because of course they're in SCC strength to schedule. But
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I know this year they look a lot better.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
We're about to find out what they're what what they're
gonna do, and through the team the two teams you
just mentioned Alabama. You know, Georgia has that favorable home
matchup against Alabama and we're gonna find out a lot
about both squads, you know, and really, when when you
look at the remainder of Georgia's schedule here towards the end.
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I mean it's it's the Alabama matchup at home, but
then they also have Kentucky and then they go on
the road against Auburn and then they come back home
for what's what will likely be another Top twenty.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Five matchup with Old Miss.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Auburn has surged a little bit, but then they got
knocked back down night just last week, and you know,
they're they're kind of one of those SEC teams that
you don't really want to sleep on them because you
you don't know which Auburn team you're gonna get this week. Yeah,
we're gonna find out real quick. And I mean, the
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the overtime shootout with Georgia and Tennessee was was a.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Good both programs exactly the ball last.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So you know, and we're we're talking about two very
good heavyweight playoff contenders. But I want to see more
of what Kirby Smart is gonna do this year with
the team. But you know, they they have.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Some weaknesses in that defense that they need to shore
up before SEC play really hits the heart and we
start getting into, you know, the middle of October, because
if they don't ratch it up a little bit, they're
gonna find they're gonna run into one of these teams
down the schedule and it's they're gonna have a surprise.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Loss, and that would hurt, especially late in the season.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Absolutely, And you know, we'll see what happens this week
between Ole Miss and LSU and how those two teams.
You know the result from that, because if ole Miss wins,
they'll likely be a top ten team. LSU may still
be in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Even if they lose. If they win or loss, I
mean on that.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Side, I to be quite honest, I was a batman.
I take Old Miss only vibs a batman. I'm not
a batman, so I'm not taking anything.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
The match was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And you know, if if we thought that LSU was
for real when they beat Clemson to start the season,
then then we'll see if they're for real against an
ole Miss, a hungry Ole Miss team with Lane Kiffen
at the helm. I mean that that's the That's what
this matchup comes down to is did Brian Kelly turn
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really turn a corner going into SEC play and does
he have the Tigers back as being a very good
top five team or his Old Miss gonna come in
there at ranked thirteenth and really sneak.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
One over at home.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Nonetheless, I mean, this is going to be a great.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Game in Oxford. No, it is. It is? Uh so
was it?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
What were you?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
You? You know me and you go so far back?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
When were you writing for the Raffie Report twenty thirteen, fourteen?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
But how long ago was that?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well a decade ago? I know it decade ago from
the from the fields of it. Actually, yeah it was.
It started over a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, that's what I thought. And now you're Sporting News.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But you've been with SI, You've been with a few
But uh, dude, I cannot get you off of this
show without talking about the Buffs. What what are we
looking at? What are we looking at? As far as quarterbacks?
Tell me who you think should be the starting quarterback
for your CU Buffs?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Oh, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean it's it's a Kitten Salter.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I mean, you can't you can't not have Kitten Salter
as your starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
He's the most experienced quarterback on this ross.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And you know Ryan Stole was brought in as a
third string option.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
But what I find interesting about this whole care cell
with Dion Sanders is.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Just the it goes two ways, right, Like, this is
a very interesting conversation, and I want everyone who listens
to this to understand.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I'm not a Dion hater. I'm not at all.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm a d On realist, and I understand what he's
trying to do. But then on the other side of
the equation, I think that that there.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Needs to be a realistic conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You bring in Kayden Salter, who was a two year
starter at Liberty. Granted, I mean that is a lesser
division of play if he will, but you know, he
took them to some very good postseason play, and then
he rolls on.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Comes to Colorado. But then you also have the vont
and five.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Star Lewis who comes in, as well as Ryan stab
who stayed as being shud or Sanders backup.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So you start the season with Salter. Things didn't go
as planned.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You take the loss to Georgia Tech, and then you
roll off of that and you hit the next week
to play the carousels.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
So you start off with Salter and then you throw.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
In Julian and then you land with Stobb, who goes
in there and picks up the pieces and looks great.
And then you decide to keep stop as a quarterback
going into the Houston game, Well he, you know, a
lot like arch Manning got off to a rough start
against a decent team for Big twelve standards, and it
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just everything crumbled because he couldn't quite keep the horse
in front of the car. And now you go back
to Salter and then you know, like you just got
to ask yourself what's going on? Like is this just
an overreaction because he has dealt with with Shador, who's
of course now the NFL, But I mean he's dealt
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with him his entire career from from high school, I
mean even before prep level high school.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Jackson State, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And you know, it's just you was this just an
overreaction because you you didn't have the you don't have
the relationship do you do with any of the three
of the quarterbacks in your quarterback room that.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
You had with Shador? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean, is it it just kind of it comes
down to asking more questions than getting answers. But then
Dion's words this week were, you know, we we did
this on purpose to show Kayden that that uh, you know,
we want to get in Then aha, moment to that
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he really got it and understood, which I don't think
that puts confidence in your quarterback because that's kind of
the same level of thought process that the the Carolina
Panthers did with Bryce Young and bringing in Andy Dalton
and having Dalton start a couple games and then all
of a sudden switching back to Bryce Young and they
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had success there towards the end of the year. I mean,
that's kind of the same logic. But you know, it
just goes to show you that you won. I mean,
Kayden Salter should be the starting quarterback from here on out,
no questions asked.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's his senior year.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
He has that level of success or has had that
level of success, and the coaches are there behind him.
I mean, you have Byron left Which as his quarterback
coach right now.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
There's no reason why he should not be getting the
knowledge that he needs to be that next level type
of cornerback.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But then, you know, the other question that comes up
is Pat Sherman's offense stale.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
We all were sitting on the.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Couch watching these bubble screens predicting what's about to happen.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
And I'm not not being a homer from his days
in Denver or you know, even it goes back further
from his time in the NFL at several different stops.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
But you know you have a Super.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Bowl winning offensive coordinator on your staff and Byron Leftwige, Yeah,
why not let him give some run, move Sherman back
to the analyst position and give play calling over to
Byron Lefwig.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You'll be more creative. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And he plays a style or he played a style
of football that he understands like he he comes at
this knowing what a quarterback has to do in the
pocket that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
And if you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Have a a quarterback who is going to stand and
in the pocket and throw down field, you know, the.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Pat Shermer.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Picking Duncan dink offense of picking your plays that this
is not.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Gonna work anymore. And the faster that Dion realizes that,
the sooner.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
They can move on and try to really be a
surprise team in the Big twelve. But it's gonna take
a lot. I mean they have to. The defense cannot
stop anyone. Let me say that again. The defense has
not been able to stop anyone at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
And you know, I know everyone.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is elated to have this this win over Wyoming. But
if you're looking at this from a from a different perspective,
you know that's a Mountain West team. You're not playing
any of the rest of the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So yes, the win against Wyoming was great, but do
you also have to move off from that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Okay, So I'm looking at b YU this this Saturday. Uh,
what's your outlook on the B y U c U game?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You know, this is a rematch of last year's.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Alimable but they didn't show up an Animal Bowl at all.
I don't even think they because I don't think they
wanted to be there.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
No, and I would agree with you on that. But
then this is a.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
This is a slightly different YU team because Jake Retzelov
had to leave the university in Nasa Chulane, so that
there the quarterback situation is hasn't really been an influx.
But you know B YU is is a different team.
But also we're we're gonna learn a lot about CU
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because B y U is ranked twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, you know, can can they compete?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Is this is this a game that we look at
later and say, well, you know, SeeU is making strides or.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Is it gonna be a lot of the same.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know, I I just go back in my mind
to pinning this on.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
You know, you can have all.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
The NFL experience as a player, and I know what
Deon's trying to do is turn some of these players
into coaches. And you've had Randy Moss with They haven't
announced his his hiring by any stretch of the imagination,
but he's been on campus all of the last three weeks.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yes, in all the videos.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Wondered about his status because he's there, and even Dion
has referenced him as coach.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Moss and put in last.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Week's post game presser, so you know, you've Randy Moss
coaching up the receivers. You have Byron Leftwich working with
the quarterbacks. You you've got the Pat schirmers, you you've.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Got Mars Marshall Fox too, he's got the running backs.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You've got Warren Sap, You've got Marshall Farkley. He had said, Yeah,
when is all this gonna matter?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Well, you know this is how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I look at it a little bit different than you
h but almost still the same. I feel like when
they had when they had Shador and they had Travis.
People wanted to come play around them, so they didn't
really lose a lot of people those two years. Now
that they're gone, it's like every year they're starting, it's
starting all over again. They have got to get some
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continuity with some of the players that are here now
instead of constantly going to get the four and five stars.
But that's just my point of view, you know, that's
how I see it. They've got to build something because
they were building stuff with his son and with well
some can say Travis is his newly adopted son. So
he was building stuff with those two guys, and people
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wanted to be there. Not that people don't want to
be here now because he's still getting people.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Tell your story.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'm driving down the street with my son and we're
going down Colfax and he says, let's go over there
and eat. I know, I want something to eat. I
was like, all right, that's cool. He was like, it's
a taco Bell right there. I said, bro, I'm not
eating taco bell. He was like, Dad, I'm hungry. So
we go on Taco Bell. We get some food, and
I'm looking at the cups and the Cubs have players
(38:15):
pictures on them. And I'm like what because I get
you know, I don't watch TV. I watched sports, but
I don't really look at TV to see that he
had got all these deals for these players at Taco Bell,
they even have their own meals. What he gets money
for the players. So if you come there, he's gonna
get you money. And that's why it's so many kids
killing themselves to get there. Do you think they make
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a ball this year? Because when you look at their schedule,
this schedule is not easy. These last few games are
not easy. They're pretty what is it six more games left?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Ye? These are some rough games. No, I actually know you.
You've got eight more games left. Hey, I'm sorry one
through the way through the season. But man, they got
they gotta love schedule A big question. Well, and in
this by you manage up as a trap game. You
have a you have a top twenty.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Five team coming into your stadium for a late another
leg game.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
And I know that they they love having Dion lay
on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It's it's great for their ratings. People stay up and watch.
But the winds have to matter. They have to they
have to come from somewhere and it can't just be
in the checkbooks and the nil margins.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I mean, that's that's just where they're at right now.
They have to have some.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Measurable success on the field otherwise what is it all for?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Is this just.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
To get these kids their pockets lined and somehow try
to get them to the NFL, because that's not.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
What I saw in some of the pregame videos for
the Houston game.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I saw a team that was eerily similar to when
they went to Oregon and Dion's first year when Boone
Knicks went out there and went wild on Coloro's defense
and they just could not stop anyone.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
It was.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
It was a non confident team. And that's the football confidence.
I should say. They lacked having football confidence. They had
all the confidence and swagger in the world. I saw
chains strolling strolling around on the field looking like a
tourist taking pictures. But that's not and that's not an
overarching sign of success when it comes to wins on
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the football field. And I think that people have to
ask that question, what you know, where's the discipline?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Where it Where is this team?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And you know, Dion got slacked very he got slacked
for his time management and excuse me, a clock management
in the Georgia Tech game. You know, you have the timeouts,
you didn't use the timeouts, and he's trying to come
up with some type of logic behind how that all
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happened from him there at the end of the game,
you know, But that's just a it's a mistake that
can't happen.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
And I think people are gonna start asking those questions.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Is is the prime has the prime effect Rossin's luster
in Boulder.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Now that I don't see that happening as long as
he's there.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I honestly don't even if they if they were to go,
but I will say this, if they have five wins,
he's still gonna get in the bowl.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
This year.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Somebody will get him into a bowl because it's if
it's against a mid mid American anything, they will get
him into a bowl because they know people are gonna
show up for Deon Sanders Bowl. You know, he doesn't
have to They're not bound by the Pac twelve anymore.
They don't have to worry about that where they have
to go in play at the Alamo Bowl. Again, that's
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over with, thank goodness, or is it that is over right?
Because they were bound last year about that back twelve.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Jim, because it's still it would still be the it's
the current and former teams of the pop.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Twells oh Man, they can't keep going to the Alamobowl. Man,
I want to go somewhere. I want to go somewhere.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Nice, I want to go.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I mean yeah, but I mean when you think about
the bull structure as it is, Alamo's actually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
It has a pretty good payout.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well, well, wait a minute, CSU went to the LA Bowl,
didn't they. I think they went to one of those bowls,
like I think it so far somewhere.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yeah, So that.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Snoop Dog sponsored by oh that was at Arizona. That
was Arizona. Was that in Arizona? Something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:51):
I think it wasn't in Arizona. But did Jimmy Kimobowl?
I think it. It was like one of those the
naming sponsors on some of these bulls.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, they're crazy, absurd, They're crazy. Hey, one last thing
before I let you go. Talking to Jeff Houser Sporting News.
So what's I was trying to explain this to somebody.
I didn't really know it very well. But what's the
deal with females and the money. The splitting of the money.
Is that the not the nil money, but the collective
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what are they doing something different with the money for
female athletes?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
That is.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Kind of a determined at this point.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Okay, the overall the collective any even collectives, it.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Is their discretion on how they spend or split the money. Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
And you know it's up to twenty point five million
per school.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Wow, So up to.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Doesn't necessarily mean right at Okay, And I concied that
with a lot of a lot of people who ask
that question, because I mean, you got to realize that
if that's across the higher athletic budget or any of
the athletic programs, I mean, we've already started.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
To see some of these programs.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Go away due to lack of funding and and and everything,
because it's it's the shift. I mean, no longer are
is a football program holding up there into the bargain
for other programs to exist. And in some of these schools,
it's just it's the way that everything is currently. Sadly,
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because you know, I'm a firm believer that any university
wins when you have the most amount of programs competing
at any given time.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I agree with that, and you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
About to experience something wild with all of this nil stuff.
You know, it's not just in the legislation and how
the the House settlements about to come down or is
actually now starting.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
To come down, But.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We're gonna see a new era where some out of
the box things are gonna happen and we're gonna scratch
our heads and be like, hmm, that's interesting, how did
that happen? Well, because now it's a race for money
is how can we get the most amount of money
in the shortest amount of time to.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Make sure that we're building these programs up.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
And you know, some of these programs are built for success,
they really are, and they have high profile boosters. I mean,
look at what's going on in Michigan. Larry Ellison, the
founder of Oracle, has now donated. He had his largest
donation ever last month.
Speaker 8 (45:50):
Or excuse me, earlier this month, and people are talking
about how you know he he now is the feast
of path Elon.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Musk recently as the world's richest man. So to say
to yourself, he has written a blank check.
Speaker 9 (46:07):
And he is now funding everything that is for Michigan Athletics,
especially football because Bryce Underwood flipped his commit from LSU
to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, because Ellison stepped in at the last moment to
secure ANIL funding for him. Yep, that's huge. I mean,
that's that's the way that the landscape is gonna be.
And I'm very curious to see how all this is
gonna shake out because it's an arms race that nobody.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Nobody could have seen this coming five years ago.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But now that everything has scaled itself back and we
keep pilling the onion backed layer by layer this, you know,
it's a slippery slope because now you're gonna want results.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
I mean, if you have if you.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Have mega boosters who are funding these programs, they're gonna
want to see wins and uh for instance, And I'll
leave you with this. Ryan Smith, the mega donor at
b YU, is pumping money into athletics right now.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
He of course.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Started the tech booms there with Salt Lake City, and
he owns the hockey team, he owns the Utah Jazz,
and he's a he's a big name mover and shaker
in the region if you will. But you know, a
j debants, the top basketball player isn't going to b
(47:41):
YU without Ryan Smith's.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Given in that money. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
And you know b YU football has had a good resurgence.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Coloniasaki is a really good coach.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
But you know they're not pulling in a talent that
they pull in without Ryan Smith. And it's it's him
in a handful of other billionaires around the country.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
And you know, look.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
At I know that Oklahoma State did this with te
Boone Pickens, the oil tycoon. Yeah, and that you know
he the stadium is named after him, and he was
a big donor. When he passed away. That said a
lot of things in motions backwards for Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
State because you have that big source.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Of money dwindling, and you know that's that's what it's
going to turn into, is well, if if we lose
this billionaire, we'll shoot. We gotta go find another one. Yeah,
it's the king constant needed to finding steady cash flows
and really boosters who were contributing you know, six and
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seven figures. That's nice, but you know they with everything
the way that it is, the ones who come in
and have an open check book, you are willing to.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Just lay down everything on the table. It's totally different.
It is it's gonna James landscape as we know it
of college forts, especially college football.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, hey, Jeff Houses Sporty News. Hey, Jeff, tell everybody
how they can hear what you write. I mean read
what you.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Write on Non Sporty News is main website under the
college football section, and you know that. Definitely give us
a look because we got some good things going on
over there.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Right right on, Jeff, as always, man, tell wifey the
kid olds. I said, hello, you got three of them.
Now you've caught me. But yours are younger.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Keep wondering how that happens. Yeah, yours are younger, minor older.
Xavier is nineteen? Is it? I'm done? That's it for me.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Uh, think about that when you when we're looking at yours,
because I remember when your wife was walking around pregnant
and I told Xavier, I said, pretty soon his oldest
is going to be nineteen and we'll be like, whoa.
I remember when he was a baby and her belly.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Wa it would be grandpa less.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yes, sir, Hey, man, I appreciate you as always. Man,
tell the wife and everybody. I said, hello, appreciate that
all right right on, man, later on, let it, Jeff, Hawser,
Sporting news Man.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
That's some good insight, some great insight.
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
Brother? Oh man? Long time no talk. I've been good, man,
I've been good.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You were Sporting Sporting News now, huh Yeah.
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I made the jump to Sporting News and it's it's
been good covering college football for them over there.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's it's been a good go okay for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
For sure, Man, we're gonna have to get together at
a game somewhere.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I don't know. Uh, one of one of the Well.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
You you're out there in sec A CC, Yes, but
you're sec ACC world, So you're you're, you're, you're the
thick of it.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Okay, here there everywhere, just waiting to see what Week
five brings, and man, a bunch of good matchups going
on around the nation.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Hey but before yeah, but before we jump into that,
I just mentioned ACC. Dude, Dabbo Sweeney one in three
right now, couldn't happen to a better guy if you
ask me, uh so, I know that's that's that's that's
hating at its finest. But he couldn't happen to a
better guy. He's one and three, and from the looks
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of the schedule that's coming up, there's some more als
coming in his direction.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yes, a lot more at least you could predict that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
We we don't know how the season will shake out,
how everything will will lay itself out, but you know,
he they do have the bye week this week.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
They needed Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
North Carolina and they're gonna meet each other coming off
of a bye so that's gonna be a very interesting matchup.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But you're right, there is a.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Lot of turmoil right now internally at Clemson just trying
to figure everything out. You know, this is a new
this new landscape of college football has really morphed to
finding coaches like Davo who have that old style of
thought and really pushed them behind.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
And you know these some.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Of these coaches are trying to play catchup, as we
saw with Oklahoma States.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Might got ya this week. He got fired a day ago.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, and you know that there was a.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Lot of internal conversation about does he retain his job,
will he stay around in Stillwater? And I kind of
thought that he would given his tenure at the school.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
But I mean the writing was on the wall as
of last year. You're talking about in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
State team that had no big twelve wins last season.
So the leash got really short. And if Dabble continues
to lose, that leash is going to get even shorter.
But you know, to the teams that he's traced into
their credit, they ran into a good LSU team right
out of the gate, and Brian Kelly shook off that
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early season jitter that he has had ever since he's
been down in the VAYU. And you know that the
Tigers actually look good in the SEC right now as
the one of the SEC favorites. Whether they stay on
the tracks, I guess we'll see. But then also, you
hit a Georgia Tech team.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I was just about to say that on.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
The seconds with a one hack of a field goal,
and then to roll from that to Syracuse.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean it just the losses just keep getting worse
and worse. For Clemson.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
They started the season ring number four, so this wasn't
a team that came into the season and then they
went to the playoff last year.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But the last year.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, but think about something though, Jeff Davos Sweeney. You know,
I'm not gonna compare him to Nick Saban, but I'm
saying they're always going to be ranked in the top
ten or top five just because of the school, which
I think is unfair because I don't think coming in
they should have been ranked that high.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh, I would agree with you, but given who I mean,
you had to give k club.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Nick under center. They have a ton of stars on
that offense, and they have some good defenders as well.
You know, you gotta give him that shape given what
they did last year to get there.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But you're right, I mean, I think the preseason poll
is really impredictable, and we've now seen what can happen
in a moment's notice, especially for for Gabbo.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I mean that he got up one week and he's
spouting off for all of us. Oh did you hear that? Yep, yep.
I was getting to that. I was getting to that next.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And I think I'm gonna tell you right now that
right there could be the reason that they get rid
of him, because now he's saying without he's saying it, basically,
Clemson is mine. I Bill Clemson. No one else did,
and that's just how he sounded.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
He did.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But you know, at the tail end of that conversation
he did say, you know, if Clinton wants to, if
they want to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Get rid of me, they can send me packing on
my way. But I'm not going to the beach. And
I mean, if that's a communication, he's gonna go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
If okay, least on his own or he gets fired.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Okay, But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
What Power five team, unless they're unless they're you know,
and I hate to say this, unless they're like Vanderbilt
or somebody. What Power five team is going to take him?
With his own way of thinking.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Well, I mean he's gotta adapt. He has to change that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
This is not the this is not the the amateurism
that was in college football, even in college sports.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Is not what it is now. It's it's not whatever
this is. This is a semipro.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Model, is moving more and more towards the NFL system
of a year round conglomerate, if you will, And then
they're adopting more and more of the NFL rules and regulations.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
So, I mean, he can't keep that same style of thought.
I think that he gets it now. He was way
behind in the transfer portal. Oh yeah, he came out
and said, I'm not gonna hint up the transfer portal. Yep,
I don't believe in it. I gotta recruit.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, you found out real quick that all these other
teams that use the transfer portal to their advantage.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I'm surging past him.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, he's he's way behind the eight ball. He's going
to figure out how to make this all happen. Now,
Clipson does have resources lists.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So let's not for Oh yeah, they do.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
But in order to use those resources, the coach has
got to be willing to say I want to use
those resources.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
No, absolutely, And either to answer your question there are
Power five teams out there who would want sweety, but
he has to show an initiative to come of age.
And it's the same reason why Nick Saban left the game.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You know, it was good for him while it lasted.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, but if other teams were in other programs are
doing it, No, I mean it wasn't. It wasn't for him,
and that's why he said, no, I can't do this,
because these kids are gonna be.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Making millions, and why he can. Yeah, I'm the only
millionaire in this equation exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know, I get it, I get it. I get
it speaking of it, since you brought up, since you
brought up saving dude, what is going on with Alabama?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Can de Bourne is doing what he can?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Wait wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Here's my thing
with that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
They brought him in as if he was gonna come
in and shake up everything and keep everything going because
of his season at Washington or his coaching at Washington.
From the beginning, I didn't think that was a great
fit because what he brought from the Pac twelve was
not gonna work in sec.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, and you're realizing that this is not Alabama what
it used to be.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, you know, because you had Saving and his staff
hitting the ground hard in areas and they were bringing
in kids who they knew would be a good fit,
and they had a ton of resources to do that.
But you're seeing that play out over the course of
you know, the last twenty years.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But I will give killing Bore a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Credit because I think that he understands that he's not
Saving and that's something that you know, he's trying to
create his own pathway there in Tuscaloosa, where you know,
a lot of coaches that that's a high profile job
coming right after Saban, who had tremendous success and is
considered one of the greatest of all time in the
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college game, if not probably the realm of coaching either
in the NFL or in.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
College, you know, between the two. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Just think that if you're looking at this Alabama squad,
they're just they're an average team.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Again, you know, before Nick Saban got there, Yes, oh.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Absolutely, I mean and even the first couple of years
of Save him was there before he actually started.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well that that well, that first that first year Saban
still went to a Bowl. If I'm not mistaken, You're right,
he went to a bowl. He just wasn't he just
wasn't that that national championship, Nick Saban. But at that
second year he started to win again because he knows
how to go out and recruit. Here, here's what and
this is something else. I think people fail to realize
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when it comes to Nick Saban. I think everyone, including
people just watching it. Nick Saban doesn't go after four
and five star athletes. He goes after two and threes.
They become five star athletes after he talks to them,
And I think people don't realize that, and they need
to look it up and see they are actually two
and three uh stars, they're not five. Minute he talks
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to him, though they shoot him all the way up.
That's I guess that's the Nick Saban effect.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Could be.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, and I see what you're talking about because some
of the the outlets who do star rankings, you.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Know there, there's there's some bias there and.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
They they vote between who they who they view is
the next upcoming star.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And you know too, for what.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Saban did in Alabama, though you don't think that we're
ever going to see that. On another level, We're not
going to see another dynasty run at least not in
the playoff format that we saw. The only thing, the
only similar model to that is Ohio State. But even
Ohio State will falter a year here, a year there.
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It won't be consistent to the point where it was
with Nick Saban. So you got to give him a
lot of credit for what he brought to the game.
And and uh, you know, continues to bring in some fashions.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
No, that's true. Last year.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I uh, I watched a lot of Indiana games this year.
I'm gonna be honest with you. At the beginning of
the season, I was like, I'm not watching him. He
had that one good year. He's gonna be he's playing
in the big team. He had one good year. This
dude is kicking buttocks again.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, is for real.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I want to ask you something, though I don't mean
to cut you up, but I wan't ask you something.
What Where is he getting these players? What? Because, dude,
when I hear the names and he's a he's a
guy full of two and three stars too and transfer kids,
where the hell is he getting these kind of studs?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
He's he a pition me of a real coach. Wow,
there's nothing else that you can say about it. Cursik
Nitty's doing what he can to make everything work in Indiana,
and it's working.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
You know, he's going after these kids and he's finding
them in in that belt around the round Ohio is
around the region.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
They're kind of in the Midwest, if you will. But
then he's.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He's not afraid to to dip his paws and in
the the stands of Florida or even down in Texas.
And you know, it's it's an all out, it's an
all recruiting blitz.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And you know he's also pulling in players from.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
The transfer portal, Yeah, that are willing to come there
and do good things.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But what they're doing on the field is just it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And you know, I know that a lot of people
are upset at him for trying to run up a score,
but you know he.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I know, he doesn't care. No, he doesn't, he doesn't.
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Do you remember his interview when he first got the
Indiana uh two years ago and and the reporter said
something to him and said basically like who are you?
He said, pull me up on Wikipedia. That's what he
said in the press conference. So this is a guy
that's very confident in himself. And I'm sure she looked
she looked.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
At me was exuded this week?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh my goodness, did you look at what he.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Said about Iowa? And you know, for for some that's
a trap gick. You have a very hot Indiana team
going into Iowa, and you know, some may consider that
one of the underrated matchups of the week. But if
Indiana has done what they what they strive to do
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this season, and what they've done in the last couple
of weeks, if I'm in if I'm Iowa looking at
this matchup, I'm wondering to myself, are we going to
be the next you know, sixty point blowout? Because look
at the way that they handled Indiana or Illinois Alloy
they were number nine in the nation.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah wow, the number nineteen in the nation.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And then with that win, Indiana went from nineteen to
eleventh in the country.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
They should have never been that low anyway, because if
we're talking about based off the years, and even though
Indiana only.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Had really that really great year last year.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The way I was just talking about Dabbo getting in
the top five just because it's Clemson, he should have
been He should have got a better shot at it too,
And I'm sure he'll let us know about it if
he wins a few more games, because he's that kind
of guy.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And I mean Illinois came into that game very cocky.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Oh yes, and they knew it.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
They they thought that they were that they were running
in there, and that they were the fighting and line
I and you know that they were one of the
favorites in the Big ten outside of you know, Ohio
State or or a Penn State, and you know, to
give them to push him into the top ten, I
mean that that was a stretch to begin with, but
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then to see what Indiana did to them, it's like, yikes, that's.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
We we all understand the pecking order.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
But then you gotta ask yourself this question, is Indiana
going to be that team that everybody fears to face this.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Year in the Big twelve? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I mean you just got to ask yourself because for Indiana,
if if you're thinking about this season, about what they
want to do, which is of course get back to
the playoff.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But man, I mean they have a stretch of games
after Iowa. I mean, they have a bye week and
then they go and play at Oregon, you know, and
we'll see what Oregon does this week.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Against Penn State.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's gonna be one magic to watch because you're putting
together or you're putting together two really good coaching minds
and Dan Lanning and and James Franklin to see what
they could do. But then you know, there towards the
end of the stretch, they do have to go to
Happy Valley three games before the finale to play Penn State.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So we're talking.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
About if this Indiana team gets a ton of confidence
and if they go into Autsin and knock off the Ducks,
we're gonna be talking about this Indiana, this Indiana team
as being a for real content.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Well, yeah, I agree with that, and I say something else.
So I'm not a big fan of Landy, but I will.
I almost want to say guaranteed. Like Charles Barkley, I
think he'll be in the NFL in three years. I
can see that because he fits the model temperament is
good for the NFL. Oh, well, it'll have to change
because those players are't gonna deal with it. It'll change
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immediately because he comes in there and says one wrong
thing to one of those players. They're gonna be fine
for hitting him or throwing them across the table.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Yeah, I just wonder. You know, there are some coaches
that are cut out for.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
The NFL because they understand that that's the route that
they're trying to go to get there. And you know,
like for instance with Dabos Sweeney, Dabo Sweeney can not
go to the NFL. No, no no way, shape or form.
I mean, he is good for the college game because
that's what suits him. And it's a lot like Saban
I mean, Saved had to find out the hard way
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by coaching in Miami Dolphins. Yeah, and you know he
did good, he led them to winning seasons, but you
know that those gap years for him, he realized real
quick that this wasn't for him.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, the pro and college game is two different animals,
especially when it comes to when it comes to men
against and not calling college guys that they're not men
but they're not quite there yet. They're not quite there yet.
But the NFL player is not gonna hit it. I
can remember when Mike Shanahan got into it with I
can't remember his name, when they asked him something that
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practice one day, they say, are you gonna be playing
next week, and he said, you got to go up
there and ask that little man up there. That's the
little man that's in charge. I can't remember his name,
the one that came in and got all of the money.
Was it Albert I can't think of his name, but
that's what he said to the news. I think Channel
nine news is I go ask a little man up there.
I don't know if I'm playing or not. I was like, Wow,
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they traded him. They traded him next week.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It sounds about on part for Shanahan. Yeah. Yeah, So
another another.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Coach who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
and hopefully he gets it one day.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
He will.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
But you're you're a Homer though you're a Broncos lover. Uh,
let's get back.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
We all know that.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
We know that, So I'm not hating. I'm just saying
you're a Bronco fan. But he does deserve to be
in there.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Nonetheless, you're still out a Bronco fan. Hey, so that
who I know? You have a Heisman vote right now?
Who are you looking at as winning the highs? Let
me give you two questions as the Heisman front runner,
and what do you think about manliness.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I can't tell you who I have. No I said
front runner, your front runner.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I can't tell you who I have is my front
runner because I don't even think that there's one.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Nobody right now.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
This year is tough because nobody's really broken out and
put up the numbers that is just like, ah, look
at this guy. You know, he's he's doing things. We
all thought that that would be Arch Manning at this
point down in Texas and lo and behold. You know,
he had a rough start in that high state game
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to start the season and then he really hasn't picked
up anything since he beat Sam Houston State last week
at you know, not really a signature win, but he
got back on track.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
He shook off some of that rust that he had, and.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Really people have speculated if he's injured right now, at
least from the signs that he's showing others during games.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
You know, he's he has gone and.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Grabbed his arm in a in a heavy, heavy, deep
pain after throwing. So some have speculated if he's playing injured,
but you know, he still is entering a pretty stout
slate of SEC games. Yeah, he's gonna have to prove
himself time and time again, I mean, this is this
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doesn't just stand on his background is being Cooper's son
and uh, you know, having Peyton and Eli as as
an uncle. Okay, where he's really gonna have to stand
alone on his own.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, you know, as of right now, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, I mean, well, if that's the case, then Jeff
talking to Jeff Howison's Sporting News. Hey, Jeff, Now, if
that's the case, then that means that Arts can start
to roll off games and he could be back in
the hunt for the Heisman. You know, I I mean
you said, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But I just the head to head competition that he
had early with Ohio State really exposed a lot of
his game.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And made him look average.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And that that's you know, it's not my words, is
what some of the pundits have called him.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
It's just an average quarterback.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So I think time the jury is still out on
him and if he can get back into being the
kind of the kind of favorite, I don't I don't
even know favorite is the right word to call him
at this point, because I think that he's done some damage.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Should I mean, that was a that was a huge.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Game in the moment that if you step back and look,
you know, you's got to say.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Well, shoot, what can he do to get back in it?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And and really, is he going to have some type
of like aha moment in the ace in the sec
slate to push him forward?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Well, it's a valid question.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I honestly think he will, because all he has to
do is prove himself what maybe two good teams and
they'll be talking about him again because he's gonna beat
the teams that he should beat.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
But but how I understand that, and I understand your logic,
But then you also have three really good quarterbacks ahead.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Of him right now.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I mean, you got Carson back down in Miami everything right,
you know, coming over from Georgia, there was a lot
of speculation on what how his transfer might go back
home because he's a kid from Florida.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But it's gone good for the Canes and for him.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But then there's also Dante mood in Oregon who's shined,
and then you.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Know Fernanda Mendoza Indiana.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
All three very good signal callers who I would say
at this point, and you know, I would even throw
Juli Aguilar in there from Tennessee. So there's four really
good cornerbacks ahead of Arch and Garrett Neusmeyer from Ye
there's five really good signal callers who I would say
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right now are ahead in the favorite pool ahead of Arch.
I think the Arch has really done damage to to
that he's gonna have to come in and take just
grab those reins and will Texas into looking almost like
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a contender in the ACC side of the schedule. Otherwise
if it's not gonna happen for him.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Okay, that's fair enough, that's fair enough. Uh, we had
we we we talked about Alabama. But what about Georgia.
How do you just is Georgia legit this year? Because
to me, last year they weren't legit. They got in
because of course they're in SCC strength to schedule. But
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I know this year they look a lot better.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
We're about to find out what they're what what they're
gonna do, and through the team the two teams you
just mentioned Alabama. You know, Georgia has that favorable home
matchup against Alabama and we're gonna find out a lot
about both squads, you know, and really, when when you
look at the remainder of Georgia's schedule here towards the end.
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I mean it's it's the Alabama matchup at home, but
then they also have Kentucky and then they go on
the road against Auburn and then they come back home
for what's what will likely be another Top twenty.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Five matchup with Old Miss.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Auburn has surged a little bit, but then they got
knocked back down night just last week, and you know,
they're they're kind of one of those SEC teams that
you don't really want to sleep on them because you
you don't know which Auburn team you're gonna get this week. Yeah,
we're gonna find out real quick. And I mean, the
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the overtime shootout with Georgia and Tennessee was was a.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Good both programs exactly the ball last.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
So you know, and we're we're talking about two very
good heavyweight playoff contenders. But I want to see more
of what Kirby Smart is gonna do this year with
the team. But you know, they they have.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Some weaknesses in that defense that they need to shore
up before SEC play really hits the heart and we
start getting into, you know, the middle of October, because
if they don't ratch it up a little bit, they're
gonna find they're gonna run into one of these teams
down the schedule and it's they're gonna have a surprise.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Loss, and that would hurt, especially late in the season.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Absolutely, And you know, we'll see what happens this week
between Ole Miss and LSU and how those two teams.
You know the result from that, because if ole Miss wins,
they'll likely be a top ten team. LSU may still
be in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Even if they lose. If they win or loss, I
mean on that.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Side, I to be quite honest, I was a batman.
I take Old Miss only vibs a batman. I'm not
a batman, so I'm not taking anything.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
The match was very interesting.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And you know, if if we thought that LSU was
for real when they beat Clemson to start the season,
then then we'll see if they're for real against an
ole Miss, a hungry Ole Miss team with Lane Kiffen
at the helm. I mean that that's the That's what
this matchup comes down to is did Brian Kelly turn
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really turn a corner going into SEC play and does
he have the Tigers back as being a very good
top five team or his Old Miss gonna come in
there at ranked thirteenth and really sneak.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
One over at home.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Nonetheless, I mean, this is going to be a great.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Game in Oxford. No, it is. It is? Uh so
was it?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
What were you?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
You? You know me and you go so far back?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
When were you writing for the Raffie Report twenty thirteen, fourteen?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
But how long ago was that?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Well a decade ago? I know it decade ago from
the from the fields of it. Actually, yeah it was.
It started over a decade ago.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Yeah, that's what I thought. And now you're Sporting News.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
But you've been with SI, You've been with a few
But uh, dude, I cannot get you off of this
show without talking about the Buffs. What what are we
looking at? What are we looking at? As far as quarterbacks?
Tell me who you think should be the starting quarterback
for your CU Buffs?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Oh, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I mean it's it's a Kitten Salter.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I mean, you can't you can't not have Kitten Salter
as your starting quarterback.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
He's the most experienced quarterback on this ross.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And you know Ryan Stole was brought in as a
third string option.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
But what I find interesting about this whole care cell
with Dion Sanders is.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Just the it goes two ways, right, Like, this is
a very interesting conversation, and I want everyone who listens
to this to understand.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I'm not a Dion hater. I'm not at all.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm a d On realist, and I understand what he's
trying to do. But then on the other side of
the equation, I think that that there.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Needs to be a realistic conversation.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
You bring in Kayden Salter, who was a two year
starter at Liberty. Granted, I mean that is a lesser
division of play if he will, but you know, he
took them to some very good postseason play, and then
he rolls on.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Comes to Colorado. But then you also have the vont
and five.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Star Lewis who comes in, as well as Ryan stab
who stayed as being shud or Sanders backup.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So you start the season with Salter. Things didn't go
as planned.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You take the loss to Georgia Tech, and then you
roll off of that and you hit the next week
to play the carousels.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
So you start off with Salter and then you throw.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
In Julian and then you land with Stobb, who goes
in there and picks up the pieces and looks great.
And then you decide to keep stop as a quarterback
going into the Houston game, Well he, you know, a
lot like arch Manning got off to a rough start
against a decent team for Big twelve standards, and it
(30:51):
just everything crumbled because he couldn't quite keep the horse
in front of the car. And now you go back
to Salter and then you know, like you just got
to ask yourself what's going on? Like is this just
an overreaction because he has dealt with with Shador, who's
of course now the NFL, But I mean he's dealt
(31:12):
with him his entire career from from high school, I
mean even before prep level high school.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Jackson State, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
And you know, it's just you was this just an
overreaction because you you didn't have the you don't have
the relationship do you do with any of the three
of the quarterbacks in your quarterback room that.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
You had with Shador? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (31:38):
I mean, is it it just kind of it comes
down to asking more questions than getting answers. But then
Dion's words this week were, you know, we we did
this on purpose to show Kayden that that uh, you know,
we want to get in Then aha, moment to that
(32:00):
he really got it and understood, which I don't think
that puts confidence in your quarterback because that's kind of
the same level of thought process that the the Carolina
Panthers did with Bryce Young and bringing in Andy Dalton
and having Dalton start a couple games and then all
of a sudden switching back to Bryce Young and they
(32:20):
had success there towards the end of the year. I mean,
that's kind of the same logic. But you know, it
just goes to show you that you won. I mean,
Kayden Salter should be the starting quarterback from here on out,
no questions asked.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
It's his senior year.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
He has that level of success or has had that
level of success, and the coaches are there behind him.
I mean, you have Byron left Which as his quarterback
coach right now.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
There's no reason why he should not be getting the
knowledge that he needs to be that next level type
of cornerback.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But then, you know, the other question that comes up
is Pat Sherman's offense stale.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
We all were sitting on the.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Couch watching these bubble screens predicting what's about to happen.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
And I'm not not being a homer from his days
in Denver or you know, even it goes back further
from his time in the NFL at several different stops.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
But you know you have a Super.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Bowl winning offensive coordinator on your staff and Byron Leftwige, Yeah,
why not let him give some run, move Sherman back
to the analyst position and give play calling over to
Byron Lefwig.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You'll be more creative. Absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
And he plays a style or he played a style
of football that he understands like he he comes at
this knowing what a quarterback has to do in the
pocket that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
And if you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Have a a quarterback who is going to stand and
in the pocket and throw down field, you know, the.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Pat Shermer.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Picking Duncan dink offense of picking your plays that this
is not.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Gonna work anymore. And the faster that Dion realizes that,
the sooner.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
They can move on and try to really be a
surprise team in the Big twelve. But it's gonna take
a lot. I mean they have to. The defense cannot
stop anyone. Let me say that again. The defense has
not been able to stop anyone at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
And you know, I know everyone.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is elated to have this this win over Wyoming. But
if you're looking at this from a from a different perspective,
you know that's a Mountain West team. You're not playing
any of the rest of the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So yes, the win against Wyoming was great, but do
you also have to move off from that.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Okay, So I'm looking at b YU this this Saturday. Uh,
what's your outlook on the B y U c U game?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
You know, this is a rematch of last year's.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Alimable but they didn't show up an Animal Bowl at all.
I don't even think they because I don't think they
wanted to be there.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
No, and I would agree with you on that. But
then this is a.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
This is a slightly different YU team because Jake Retzelov
had to leave the university in Nasa Chulane, so that
there the quarterback situation is hasn't really been an influx.
But you know B YU is is a different team.
But also we're we're gonna learn a lot about CU
(35:50):
because B y U is ranked twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, you know, can can they compete?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Is this is this a game that we look at
later and say, well, you know, SeeU is making strides or.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Is it gonna be a lot of the same.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know, I I just go back in my mind
to pinning this on.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
You know, you can have all.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
The NFL experience as a player, and I know what
Deon's trying to do is turn some of these players
into coaches. And you've had Randy Moss with They haven't
announced his his hiring by any stretch of the imagination,
but he's been on campus all of the last three weeks.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yes, in all the videos.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Wondered about his status because he's there, and even Dion
has referenced him as coach.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Moss and put in last.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Week's post game presser, so you know, you've Randy Moss
coaching up the receivers. You have Byron Leftwich working with
the quarterbacks. You you've got the Pat schirmers, you you've.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Got Mars Marshall Fox too, he's got the running backs.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
You've got Warren Sap, You've got Marshall Farkley. He had said, Yeah,
when is all this gonna matter?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Well, you know this is how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I look at it a little bit different than you
h but almost still the same. I feel like when
they had when they had Shador and they had Travis.
People wanted to come play around them, so they didn't
really lose a lot of people those two years. Now
that they're gone, it's like every year they're starting, it's
starting all over again. They have got to get some
(37:28):
continuity with some of the players that are here now
instead of constantly going to get the four and five stars.
But that's just my point of view, you know, that's
how I see it. They've got to build something because
they were building stuff with his son and with well
some can say Travis is his newly adopted son. So
he was building stuff with those two guys, and people
(37:50):
wanted to be there. Not that people don't want to
be here now because he's still getting people.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Tell your story.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I'm driving down the street with my son and we're
going down Colfax and he says, let's go over there
and eat. I know, I want something to eat. I
was like, all right, that's cool. He was like, it's
a taco Bell right there. I said, bro, I'm not
eating taco bell. He was like, Dad, I'm hungry. So
we go on Taco Bell. We get some food, and
I'm looking at the cups and the Cubs have players
(38:15):
pictures on them. And I'm like what because I get
you know, I don't watch TV. I watched sports, but
I don't really look at TV to see that he
had got all these deals for these players at Taco Bell,
they even have their own meals. What he gets money
for the players. So if you come there, he's gonna
get you money. And that's why it's so many kids
killing themselves to get there. Do you think they make
(38:37):
a ball this year? Because when you look at their schedule,
this schedule is not easy. These last few games are
not easy. They're pretty what is it six more games left?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Ye? These are some rough games. No, I actually know you.
You've got eight more games left. Hey, I'm sorry one
through the way through the season. But man, they got
they gotta love schedule A big question. Well, and in
this by you manage up as a trap game. You
have a you have a top twenty.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Five team coming into your stadium for a late another
leg game.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
And I know that they they love having Dion lay
on ESPN.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
It's it's great for their ratings. People stay up and watch.
But the winds have to matter. They have to they
have to come from somewhere and it can't just be
in the checkbooks and the nil margins.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I mean, that's that's just where they're at right now.
They have to have some.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Measurable success on the field otherwise what is it all for?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Is this just.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
To get these kids their pockets lined and somehow try
to get them to the NFL, because that's not.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
What I saw in some of the pregame videos for
the Houston game.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I saw a team that was eerily similar to when
they went to Oregon and Dion's first year when Boone
Knicks went out there and went wild on Coloro's defense
and they just could not stop anyone.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
It was.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
It was a non confident team. And that's the football confidence.
I should say. They lacked having football confidence. They had
all the confidence and swagger in the world. I saw
chains strolling strolling around on the field looking like a
tourist taking pictures. But that's not and that's not an
overarching sign of success when it comes to wins on
(40:40):
the football field. And I think that people have to
ask that question, what you know, where's the discipline?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Where it Where is this team?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And you know, Dion got slacked very he got slacked
for his time management and excuse me, a clock management
in the Georgia Tech game. You know, you have the timeouts,
you didn't use the timeouts, and he's trying to come
up with some type of logic behind how that all
(41:14):
happened from him there at the end of the game,
you know, But that's just a it's a mistake that
can't happen.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
And I think people are gonna start asking those questions.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Is is the prime has the prime effect Rossin's luster
in Boulder.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Now that I don't see that happening as long as
he's there.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I honestly don't even if they if they were to go,
but I will say this, if they have five wins,
he's still gonna get in the bowl.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
This year.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
Somebody will get him into a bowl because it's if
it's against a mid mid American anything, they will get
him into a bowl because they know people are gonna
show up for Deon Sanders Bowl. You know, he doesn't
have to They're not bound by the Pac twelve anymore.
They don't have to worry about that where they have
to go in play at the Alamo Bowl. Again, that's
(42:03):
over with, thank goodness, or is it that is over right?
Because they were bound last year about that back twelve.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Jim, because it's still it would still be the it's
the current and former teams of the pop.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Twells oh Man, they can't keep going to the Alamobowl. Man,
I want to go somewhere. I want to go somewhere.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Nice, I want to go.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
I mean yeah, but I mean when you think about
the bull structure as it is, Alamo's actually pretty good.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
It has a pretty good payout.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Well, well, wait a minute, CSU went to the LA Bowl,
didn't they. I think they went to one of those bowls,
like I think it so far somewhere.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yeah, So that.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Snoop Dog sponsored by oh that was at Arizona. That
was Arizona. Was that in Arizona? Something like that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:51):
I think it wasn't in Arizona. But did Jimmy Kimobowl?
I think it. It was like one of those the
naming sponsors on some of these bulls.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, they're crazy, absurd, They're crazy. Hey, one last thing
before I let you go. Talking to Jeff Houser Sporting News.
So what's I was trying to explain this to somebody.
I didn't really know it very well. But what's the
deal with females and the money. The splitting of the money.
Is that the not the nil money, but the collective
(43:21):
what are they doing something different with the money for
female athletes?
Speaker 1 (43:24):
That is.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Kind of a determined at this point.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Okay, the overall the collective any even collectives, it.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
Is their discretion on how they spend or split the money. Okay.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
And you know it's up to twenty point five million
per school.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
Wow, So up to.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
Doesn't necessarily mean right at Okay, And I concied that
with a lot of a lot of people who ask
that question, because I mean, you got to realize that
if that's across the higher athletic budget or any of
the athletic programs, I mean, we've already started.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
To see some of these programs.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Go away due to lack of funding and and and everything,
because it's it's the shift. I mean, no longer are
is a football program holding up there into the bargain
for other programs to exist. And in some of these schools,
it's just it's the way that everything is currently. Sadly,
(44:32):
because you know, I'm a firm believer that any university
wins when you have the most amount of programs competing
at any given time.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I agree with that, and you know, we're.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
About to experience something wild with all of this nil stuff.
You know, it's not just in the legislation and how
the the House settlements about to come down or is
actually now starting.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
To come down, But.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
We're gonna see a new era where some out of
the box things are gonna happen and we're gonna scratch
our heads and be like, hmm, that's interesting, how did
that happen? Well, because now it's a race for money
is how can we get the most amount of money
in the shortest amount of time to.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Make sure that we're building these programs up.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
And you know, some of these programs are built for success,
they really are, and they have high profile boosters. I mean,
look at what's going on in Michigan. Larry Ellison, the
founder of Oracle, has now donated. He had his largest
donation ever last month.
Speaker 8 (45:50):
Or excuse me, earlier this month, and people are talking
about how you know he he now is the feast
of path Elon.
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Musk recently as the world's richest man. So to say
to yourself, he has written a blank check.
Speaker 9 (46:07):
And he is now funding everything that is for Michigan Athletics,
especially football because Bryce Underwood flipped his commit from LSU
to Michigan.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, because Ellison stepped in at the last moment to
secure ANIL funding for him. Yep, that's huge. I mean,
that's that's the way that the landscape is gonna be.
And I'm very curious to see how all this is
gonna shake out because it's an arms race that nobody.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Nobody could have seen this coming five years ago.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
But now that everything has scaled itself back and we
keep pilling the onion backed layer by layer this, you know,
it's a slippery slope because now you're gonna want results.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
I mean, if you have if you.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Have mega boosters who are funding these programs, they're gonna
want to see wins and uh for instance, And I'll
leave you with this. Ryan Smith, the mega donor at
b YU, is pumping money into athletics right now.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
He of course.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Started the tech booms there with Salt Lake City, and
he owns the hockey team, he owns the Utah Jazz,
and he's a he's a big name mover and shaker
in the region if you will. But you know, a
j debants, the top basketball player isn't going to b
(47:41):
YU without Ryan Smith's.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
Given in that money. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
And you know b YU football has had a good resurgence.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Coloniasaki is a really good coach.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
But you know they're not pulling in a talent that
they pull in without Ryan Smith. And it's it's him
in a handful of other billionaires around the country.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
And you know, look.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
At I know that Oklahoma State did this with te
Boone Pickens, the oil tycoon. Yeah, and that you know
he the stadium is named after him, and he was
a big donor. When he passed away. That said a
lot of things in motions backwards for Oklahoma.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
State because you have that big source.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Of money dwindling, and you know that's that's what it's
going to turn into, is well, if if we lose
this billionaire, we'll shoot. We gotta go find another one. Yeah,
it's the king constant needed to finding steady cash flows
and really boosters who were contributing you know, six and
(48:46):
seven figures. That's nice, but you know they with everything
the way that it is, the ones who come in
and have an open check book, you are willing to.
Speaker 4 (48:57):
Just lay down everything on the table. It's totally different.
It is it's gonna James landscape as we know it
of college forts, especially college football.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, hey, Jeff Houses Sporty News. Hey, Jeff, tell everybody
how they can hear what you write. I mean read
what you.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
Write on Non Sporty News is main website under the
college football section, and you know that. Definitely give us
a look because we got some good things going on
over there.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Right right on, Jeff, as always, man, tell wifey the
kid olds. I said, hello, you got three of them.
Now you've caught me. But yours are younger.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Keep wondering how that happens. Yeah, yours are younger, minor older.
Xavier is nineteen? Is it? I'm done? That's it for me.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Uh, think about that when you when we're looking at yours,
because I remember when your wife was walking around pregnant
and I told Xavier, I said, pretty soon his oldest
is going to be nineteen and we'll be like, whoa.
I remember when he was a baby and her belly.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Wa it would be grandpa less.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yes, sir, Hey, man, I appreciate you as always. Man,
tell the wife and everybody. I said, hello, appreciate that
all right right on, man, later on, let it, Jeff, Hawser,
Sporting news Man.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
That's some good insight, some great insight.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Well, that was the day's episode of The Coach Last
Show on iHeart, Spotify, wherever you get your news at, Hey,
your podcast at check this out, don't forget. You can
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Speaker 4 (50:49):
Hey, those are the ways you can reach me.
Speaker 3 (50:52):
They tell me what you think about what my show said,
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Peace ye
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