coaches office podcast with guests the state title coaches

The coaches welcome the Class 2A, Class 3A and Class 4A state championship coaches.  The coaches give their take on the Mr Football race and the tough topic.  Plus another Forgotten Heroes that looks back at a state title fluke.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Coach David Buchanan Coach Chuck Smith, two legendary high school
football coaches. This is the Coach's Office, a behind the

(00:33):
scenes look at Kentucky high school football.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Welcome to the Coach's Office Behind the Scenes with Chuck
Smith and David Buchanan. This is season three. This is
episode seventeen. I'm Chuck Smith. I'm joined by co host
David Buchanan, podcast editor, flashbackstoryteller Mike Yoakum.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:01):
Podcast is at tacop that's T dot C, dot O
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that helps us out a lot. A. Tonight is our
State Championship special. We have three of the state championship
coaches as our guest coaches tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
We're really excited.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
About that these guys finished off a fantastic season with
the state championship ring. We have the two A winner,
Jay Valker Am I saying that right, Jay, your last.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Name Boker, you're close to mouth. I'm good with.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It, Okay and beach Wood and then three to eight
state champion Hunter Campwell.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Of Christian Academy of Louisville.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
And then for a winner is Sean Thompson of Paduca Tilman,
and we'll bring these guys on here shortly. We have
an anonymous, tough topic question to cover tonight, and the
question is what is the right time for administration to
take a program in a different direction, you know, outside

(02:08):
of the obvious problems. And then we will discuss mister
football and the mister football candidates later on in the
show as well, you know, before we get UH or
before we UH bring on our guest coaches. I want
to congratulate all of the state championship winners. UH Sayer

(02:28):
and Chad Pennington won Class A. UH the Class A
state championship. As I said, Beechwood and Jay Walker won
the Class two A state championship, and Cal and Hunter
Campwell won the Class three A state championship.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
That was his three PET three in a row. So
he's an old pro with this. He's a been on
this show. This is a third time being on this show.
I reckon.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And then we got h Paducah Tillman and Sean Thompson
to the four A state championship. I believe that Shawn's first.
And then we got we had Bowling Green and Mark
Spader the five A state champion, and that was Marx
and Bowling Green's second in a row. I think they've
been there three so they got a good run going.

(03:16):
And then Trinity and Ja Cobb the six A state champion.
That's their second one in the row as well. Making
this forty out of forty eight years, forty out of
forty eight years that either Trinity, Saint X or Male
has won the state championship in the largest class. That's

(03:37):
that's quite a domination. And really it's in recent when
they went the six A. It's the it's the sixteenth
out of the last eighteen years that one of those
three have won the largest class state championship. David, these
guys are excited about the talk to talk about their

(03:58):
state championship experience.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
You want to bring them on.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Hey, guys, I know y'all are really busy. We're honored
that you would take the time to be with us tonight.
We'll try to be focused bringing with our questions so
you guys can get back to celebrate. So congratulations and thank.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
You thanks for having us on.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, hey, uh Hunter, I'll start I'll start off with
or I'll start off with a question and then we
just go well, well, just I tek what we do?
We go two A, three, A and four A response.
How'es that sound?

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
And the question is my question is coaches, every team
starts the season with the goal and the dream of
winning a state championship.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Was there a specific moment, a specific.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Game in which you realize, you know that this was
a realistic goal. These guys are good enough to do this,
They're determined enough to do this, They're determined enough to
be the state champion. Is there any moment during the
season that that that just kind of hit you?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Jay?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
You want to go first?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, I'll go ahead and start.

Speaker 7 (05:06):
I've kind of said it throughout last week and a
bunch of pressers and things like that.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
We were unfortunate.

Speaker 7 (05:13):
Enough we lost down in Mayfield in the semis last year,
kind of a heartbreaker thirty one twenty eight. And we
had a bunch of seniors that were going to return
this year, and as soon as they all came in
and kind of had their exit interviews, and every single
one of them was basically saying the exact same thing,
what can I do to win a state championship? I mean,

(05:35):
we had a quarterback that threw for over four thousand
yards around fifty touchdowns, and.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
He was like, what do we got to do to
be able to run.

Speaker 7 (05:42):
The ball to win a state championship? And he's not
a runner whatsoever. He's not a great athlete back there,
but his numbers died and he was okay with that
because he knew he.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Wanted to win a state championship.

Speaker 7 (05:55):
And then everybody just came through and followed suit saying
the exact same thing. So when you have a bunch
of seniors that are willing to do whatever it takes,
didn't matter about their stats, didn't matter about anything else
except for winning state. I knew it was a bunch
of guys that were going to lead us in the
right direction and knew we had a chance at that
point in time.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Awesome sacrifice, sacrifice for the team. Love it, how about you? Hunter?

Speaker 8 (06:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:21):
For us, it was really late into the playoffs. It
was the central game in the playoffs for the region championship.
They had beat us. They beat the brakes off of us,
is what they did in the regular season, and we
were battling injuries. I think there was you know, always
that goal was to be at corner Field and win

(06:42):
the last one. But I didn't know if we were
going to have, you know, the horses to do it,
and I had a lot of guys that needed to
step up. We started two freshmen at the offensive line
in that game and they carried us in the semi
finals in the state championship, starting tight end was out

(07:02):
and we just had a couple that we were just
banged up the whole year. Were able to get a
couple of guys back for that game that we thought
had season in injuries, but just really weren't sure if
we had enough in the tank to beat Central, and
those young guys and the guys behind the starters that
were hurt just continue to get better and continue to believe.

(07:23):
We had didn't have a big senior class this year,
but had really strong leadership out of that class, and
then yeah, some really talented players in that senior class
that really kept our focus and we were able to
go out at home and get a big win, and
we were able to go over the Central hump. We thought,
you know, we might have a chance to make it
to Kroger Field, and that turned out to be true.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was It was an awesome win because I'm all
to be honest, with you. I had my doubts that
you could that you could pull that off after the
way they beat you the first time.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
You know, absolute did we Sean?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
How about you?

Speaker 9 (08:00):
For me, it really goes back to actually playing against
coach Kentwell in cal I. Guess it was three years
ago at this point that we were we were good
enough to play at that level when we were down
at three A and then you know, that became the
goal then, and I as a coach kind of took

(08:23):
some things for granted, you know, young guy not realizing
it's not that easy to get there, and it took
some time.

Speaker 8 (08:30):
But we had these guys that had been there and.

Speaker 9 (08:34):
Like sixteen of them played as freshmen the last time
we were there and had an opportunity to play, and
as they grew up. We get last year to Covington
Catholic and had that let down, and on that field,
every one of those juniors came up to me and
basically said, we're going to win this thing before we
get out of here, let's go to work. So then

(08:55):
going into this year, that was the expectation, and it
was just not messing it up and making sure every
week that they remember what it felt like when we
had that let down it coming ten.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
A year ago.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
So really that was what we worked for every week
this year.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well, it takes leadership, don't the guys.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
We've got to have that leadership to get that thing
done it.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Yeah, So, coaches, what was one thing you did a
little differently in twenty twenty four as compared to the
past that you think helped your team to win a
state championship. Coach Volk, I'll let you go first.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I think one of the big things we did is
after we.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
Got through our gauntlet of a five, A six A
schedule for our first five games, and we went into
district to play and I'm not going to lie, we've
really pulled off and we must treated it like an
offseason program at that point in time. I was keeping
our guys as mentally and physically fresh as possible and
really just trying to get them to the games. On
Friday nights, we were winning games sixty one, sixty nine, nothing,

(10:01):
stuff like that, and then we would pull them in Saturday,
and those Saturdays became very intense, very aggressive for us,
and I think that kind of allowed us to keep
an edge throughout a five to seven week period where
we weren't playing great games my first year. Last year,
we did not did not take advantage of that. I

(10:21):
don't believe. We kind of played every week the exact same.
So just kind of taking week by week and allowing
our strength coach to really go after it and keep
our guys fresh, but also attack them on Saturday mornings
was huge for US.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Coach can't will What would you say?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Well, I did something I've never done as a head
coach before, and that was playing my quarterback on defense.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Hey, you were a tough topic earlier in the season.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yeah, that dilemma turned into a tough topic on this podcast.
I really appreciated you're alls inside and wisdom in that
and looking back on that decision, you know, I think
we're probably not three A state champions without you know,
our quarterback Connor Hodge playing on both sides of the ball.

(11:10):
You know, people forget and I know a lot of
people don't follow col but the quarterback from the previous season,
his his older brother Cole Hodge, as a freshman was
an All District safety for US played defense as a freshman.
It was our backup quarterback and when he took over
the reins. I was adamant, like, no, our our quarterbacks

(11:30):
don't don't play both ways. It's it's too important, you know.
We we like to throw the ball around, so we
lose that part of our of our offense. You know,
it's gonna be a tough year. But just reaching out
to to guys that I trust and done a long
time at a high level. And you know, David, you know,
thank you so much for taking the time to to

(11:52):
you know, help me out with that situation and Chuck
you as well. And playing Connor on defense, you know,
it was nerve wracking every game people watched him play.
He's not just a free safety back there, like he
will come up and absolutely knock knock your brick off.
And every time he did that, I just held my breath.
But he was a leader on both sides of the ball.

(12:14):
He gave us a spark on both sides of the ball.
He I believed two interceptions in that central playoff game,
was dominant, you know, with the ball in his hands offensively,
and so that was something that I had never done before.
Wasn't really a fan of, but you know, so glad
that we made that decision to have our best eleven

(12:35):
on the field in all three phases.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
I just certainly paid off. And I'm proud of you.
It's the old guys that don't like to change. I'm
proud of you just when you know, initially I knew
that they just made your skin crawl to even think
about it, but they heard out.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Great.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Hey, coach Thompson, what would you say?

Speaker 9 (12:58):
The first thing we did was well, I guess it's
really three things that we did. The first thing was we,
uh as a coaching staff, went off deep into the
woods into a cabin and looked in the mirror and said,
but that's what we were doing wrong because we have
all this talent here and we just weren't getting it done.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
Didn't make much sense.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
So we really broke us down as individuals, as coaches
and then as a team and looked at what we
could do better that.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
You know, the big thing that.

Speaker 9 (13:29):
Comes up with us is like a discipline all the time,
and and I don't know that our kids are that undisciplined,
but they're penalty wise. I mean, we were killing ourselves
with penalties and a lot of it was stuff that
was controllable. So you know, we were able to clean
that stuff up. And you know, one of the other
things that we changed, and I'll touch on that in

(13:51):
a minute, I think helped with that. The second thing
we did was is we made friends. You know, there's
a lot of you old timers out there who could
go back and look at football and did deep into
it in every three or four weeks. We said, you know,
those those three or four weeks out to those guys
our friends and had to break us down and look
at our tendencies. And for us, what it allowed us

(14:14):
to do was to to pick what tendencies we wanted
to keep going into the playoffs, to change it up.
You know, we we ran the ball very little into
the last two games of the season and changed up
how we were running at the time a little bit
because those tendencies we had created and were able to

(14:36):
create because we knew they were tendencies we were able
to change up in the last two So that was
the second thing. And then the third thing was this
first year, I haven't called plays for myself, and what
it did was free me up to manage everything. I
didn't have to think about offense anymore as deep as
I was before. You know, Kobe Lewis stepped in and

(14:59):
was by into coordinator him and Corey Robinson it's my
past game coordinator. And then Steve Loves was my defensive coordinator.
And then I had enough coaches. I was able to
make sure they didn't have a position either. So they
were managing offense and defense and running that part of
practice and I was running it as a whole, and
that that helped clean up the rest of the discipline issues.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
We were having good.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Deal coaches those are That was great stuff, guys, but
really our listeners are going to benefit from that. So
all right, so coach Smith, you go ahead, you uh
you get individu.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, that was good stuff. I really learned a lot
right there, guys appreciate it. Hey, the first question huntery
s c U and this is this is your three.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
P three in a row.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
You know what's the secret and win them back to
back to back.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I mean it's it's really you know when some people
another part of that question is which is harder? Is
it harder to win the first one or to keep
winning them? You know what's the secret here?

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Yeah? Well, I think it's definitely harder to keep it going.
It seems like, you know, every year it's a monumental
task to get to the last one. I think we
probably do a lot a lot of things similar to
the rest of the coaches out in the state. I
think one thing that comes to mind specifically just because
I played the position that we rely on it so

(16:21):
much of Calus is I think you've got to have
a great quarterback. I think that's one thing I've taken
away from from these three trips to to Kroger Field.
And you look around, you know all classes every year.
Man that rings true the teams that are are there
that are having success, so that you know all have
have a dude under center. And so I think for us,

(16:44):
you know, it really starts and ends at the quarterback position.
We put we put a lot on that position. We're
a high volume offense where under center we're in gun
we're r PO or naked bootleg. We'll get in twenty
one personnel and go seven stone, play action drop we
you know, screen game. We We just asked a lot,
a lot of our quarterback and so that that that

(17:06):
has really turned into kind of year round developmental uh process.
And and all of our quarterbacks connored this past season
and Cole played basketball. You know did we're multi sport athletes,
but we we have kind of developed a system where
you know, we're meeting in the mornings, we're throwing two
times a week in the gym before school starts. We're

(17:28):
we're in we're watching film, we're breaking down the offense.
You know, they're they're being quizzed by me, tested by
me regularly throughout the throughout the winner and going into
spring practice just because we feel like that they need
that and our team needs that for for this for
this offense to go. And so we've really just put
a put a large emphasis on on their development.

Speaker 8 (17:49):
You know, quarterback.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Gurus and all that stuff is great, but you know,
I want them with me. I want them to be
able to run our offense and to to incorporate our
at work and to know our reads and progressions and
and even you know, if a guy can handle it,
we'll put run game checks and pass protection checks on
their on their plate. And we've been able to do
that in the last three years. And so I think

(18:13):
just a just a tenacious approach to developing the quarterback
position has really paid off for us and really been
a big part of our you know, of our three
trips and three wins at Kroger Field.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
And you know that makes sense because you know your
your quarterbacks and all three they're mister football candidates. I
mean they're exceptional. And but I think you know, I
think for for uh Jay and Sean, I think you
say their quarterbacks are mister football candidates. So uh, I
think I think there's a lot lot there. Uh Hey, Sean.

(18:48):
So my first question for you is, you know your
passing game was exceptional in cold weather, and you know,
we hear you can't do that. We hear you know,
when it's cold, you can't throw it. And so do
you have any advice for coaches out there? How are
y'all able to throw the ball so well on a
cold December night? We were all we hear is you

(19:09):
can't do it. You got to run the ball.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
Well, you got to practice doing those things. That's that.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
That's the best advice I can give you, know when
that's what you do every day. Our receivers catch balls
every day, so when they got cold, they caught in
the cold. And the big name for them is Jack
the quarterback. Jack James is he's he's he's a good leader,

(19:34):
but he demands a lot out of his receivers. He
wants you know, he wants the ball caught, and when
it gets cold, you know, he doesn't take anything off
of it. I say, you practice, he kind of turns
it up a little bit actually, and then when they
don't do it, you know, he's on them. So when
you have a guy like that that's leading them, and
the coaches don't have to do much because they you know,
they want the ball. We have so many guys that

(19:56):
that can that could play that receiver position. You know,
you drop one or two, you and I get another
opportunity between Jack and and us taking you out.

Speaker 8 (20:04):
So we just really honed in on that.

Speaker 9 (20:08):
Some things we've done in the in the past, you know,
dip their hands and ice water and all that stuff,
no gloves, uh, stuff like that. But I think really,
when you just have the expectation this is what we
do for us to be successful, you guys got to
be able to do this. Just in reminding of them
of that could constantly, then they're going to live up

(20:29):
to those Because kids want to please, they want to
meet the expectations that you set form and I think
that for us that was a big thing. But I mean,
it goes down to really jack making good decisions and
putting the ball to the open receiver. And in the
state championship game, we had a lot of guys step
up and make incredible catches that you know that would

(20:50):
have been great in warm weather. It's just no understanding
the moment when you want to finish something you put
all that work into and this is your job. This
is how you impact the team, and living up to
that is what makes you successful in return makes the
team successful.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
I think kids just step step up to the moment.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
I like that. It's a good answer.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Coach.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Hey, Jay, I have a question for you.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
You know your early schedule, you know you played you know,
the Pulaski kind of game was pretty tight and then
you you lose to a Covingtont Catholic. But I've noticed
after you lost the covered Covingtont Catholic, then you just
really started dominating everybody.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know, what what what? What what did that loss
mean to you? What was that week like after that
Covington Catholic loss?

Speaker 7 (21:41):
Yeah, I mean we could say it was a loss,
but we got dominated, like they physically beat us up.
Going into that game, we thought our guys thought, our
coaches thought that we were pretty physical, we were good
up front, and it's kind of something that we had
started to hang our hat on a little bit, and
I think we went into that game thinking we were

(22:02):
a little bit more physical than we actually were, and
they kind of handed it to us. I think they
ran for like four four hundred and fifty yards against us.
It was something that as a defensive coach, I was
almost embarrassed to kind of have coached in that game
after looking at the stats and everything like that. But
it was just kind of a shot in us to

(22:23):
kind of refocus. I didn't change anything. I actually pulled
off of our guys a lot after that week, you know,
when we were going into an easy district game, and
I had promised them that if they gave me everything
they had going into those five weeks, that we would
take care of them. And they all play both ways,
so we're just trying to get them healthy at that point.

(22:45):
But it was just a time for us to start
to refocus and get back to yeah, we're maybe we're
not that good. We still have to continue to get better.
We still just can't can't trust that we have a
big offensive line or a bigger defensive line. We had
to continue to know our rules, to know exactly what
our scheme is, to know who we're going to and defensively,

(23:07):
it allows us to get on the board a little
bit and adjust on who we actually were. When I
first got there, I had adjusted and been a little
bit of coach rashes defense, a little bit of mine.
That game, I went a little bit back to old
school with his things, and I realized after that that
I needed to stick to my guns and know exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Who we were.

Speaker 7 (23:28):
And really, I think that's the reason we end up
beating LCA in the semi finals is because we play
a game like CUFCATH. If we don't play a game
like that and get beat like that, we get beat
by LCA because we hadn't played a game that physical
with a good offensive line a good defensive line.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
So we didn't change a ton.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
If anything, I'd say it was just an opportunity for
us to refocus and realize that it was time to
get to work and if we were going to win
State Championship number eighteen, then we weren't going to just
be able to hang out. We were going to have
to get better every single week, and our guys continue
to do so.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Hey, so Hunter, you know you've already talked about these
guys a little bit. So I mean, I think these
two cats are worthy of this question in this time.
Cole and Connor Hodge. How are they similar and how
are they different?

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Yeah, so, I mean right off the bad start with
start with Cole. I think Cole's he's when you think
of the quarterback position, you think of Cole Hodge, and
you know, a competitor, but also just very even keel,
very cerebral, can pick you apart, you know, a good
athlete in his own right, a good really really strong

(24:46):
strong leader. And then Connor's kind of the fire to
Cole's ice a little bit. Like you can tell Connor's
a free safety receiver playing quarterback. You know a lot
of times with him and you're just like, hey, take
a deep breath, Like you know, he's used to going
out there and playing with his air on fire and
hitting people and you know, making catches and breaking tackles

(25:07):
and going and scoring. And they were both extremely fun
to coach, and they both brought, you know, a lot
of energy to the position. But I think you could
definitely if you look at Cole and Connery and say,
you know, Cole, that's a that's a very cerebral even keel,
you know, just pick you apart, kind of guy quarterback,

(25:30):
you know, kind of a true quarterback. And Connor's just
you know, he's just a football player underneath center, you know,
just as liable to to clap back at you, you know,
at the quarterback position, you know, somebody's you know in
his face as he is at the free safety position.
Both wanted to be great, Both incredible work ethic, put

(25:50):
the time in different styles.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
You know.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
I think Cole, even though he's a great athlete, you know,
was more comfortable staying in the pocket and then and
deliver the ball downfield where you know, and Connor was
a little bit more comfortable outside of the pocket. And
so you know, we changed some things in our offense
to to suit both those guys. And you know, at
the end of the at the end of the day,
I think one of the things I've learned in the
playoffs is players just got to go make plays. There's

(26:16):
a lot of a lot, a lot of fifty to
fifty you know, opportunities. You know, whether the running backs
can get tackled the line of scrimmage or he's gonna
you know, he's going to get an extra five yards
with the quarterbacks and to complete that patch. But DV
he's going to break it down and on and on
and on. And I think both those guys I think
just made plays. They made plays for us in the
playoffs when it counted, when we were playing other good

(26:38):
football teams, and that was a big reason to our success.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Yeah that's good.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, Hey, Sean, your offense was very, very explosive this year,
and it gets a lot of attention for your success.
But you know, kind of looking back at your scores,
your defense with outstanding and talk a little bit about
what your defense to your team this year.

Speaker 9 (27:02):
Well, I can tell you that explosive offense gets his
tail kicked every day in practice. I cannot remember the
last time the offense won in practice. We do a
lot of good on good and yeah, offense doesn't win ever,
but no, the defense. You know, coach Love, you know,

(27:27):
been coaching a long time, and he did something that
old coaches don't do any changed for me. He went
out of his three four into a three three stack
for me and really created a lot of chaos, and
I think he ended up loving it and getting excited
about it because he could do all the stuff he
was doing before, just with different personnel and actually made

(27:53):
it more effective the way they fly around, the flights
of the football and all the different blitzes and and
things that he could do and shifts and just you
know confusion that he create.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
For me, it was just being able to.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
Create that control chaos, you know, be chaotic on on
defense and just have that mindset we're gonna hit you
and it's not just gonna be me. I'm bringing I'm
bringing ten others with me to the ball And he
really drove that home. The other thing I wanted from
him was turnovers because I wanted to get that explosive
offense the ball back. And they really took pride in that.

(28:30):
You know, for us, it's finding things, you know, the
kids get excited about. So we had the turnover trash can,
so well, anytime there's a turnover created those the kid
who created it go dunked the ball in the trash
can and it's just something you know, fun for him,
things that they could take pride in and and and
we got to where we were creating a lot of
turnovers and getting the ball back for the office. So

(28:52):
for us, the offense was good and scored a lot
of points, but the defense is what what made us
a championship caliber team. They took us to the next
level when they when they created that craziness that he's
doing now, and he did a really good job of
building it into something that was his. And you know,

(29:14):
there's times I'll be on the headset like love, what
are we doing?

Speaker 8 (29:19):
His response always, I'm just rolling the dice.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
And it worked more times than it didn't. But for us,
you know again, I'm gonna say it, that's what made
us a championship caliber team.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Got Hey. So the last question Coach Volker, you know,
Coach herget a lot of us think he's the best
player beach with have I ever had? I Man, I
had two really good teams at Paris and coach Hergett
and the Tigers. He was a quarterback back then they
got us in ninety three and ninety four. But he

(29:54):
was a great player. Really made Mike Jegle's offense go.
So he's been terrorizing Kentucky Askell football for a long time.
He's special and I'm curious though. I know that when
you took over your defensive oriented guy, part of the
deal is Greg will continue as the offensive coordinator. What's

(30:14):
that transition been like? That sounds like something that would
require some pretty skillful navigation. How does you guys make
that work?

Speaker 7 (30:25):
I mean, he's obviously the real deal. I just read
and I didn't even know this until after the game,
that he's been a part of fourteen of the eighteen
state championships as either a player or a coach. I'm
the third coach that he's coached for that he's had
state championships with.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
He just loves Beechwood. I mean it.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Would be hard to sit here and say that he's
the best one. Brandon Berger is if he listens at all.
He's a part of our coaching staff as well. Those
two do an unbelievable job with our offense. But when
I took the job, I obviously knew I was not
getting rid of Greg Herget or Brandon Berger, two of
the the all time greats at beech Wood, and they've

(31:11):
both been unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I mean they've both been.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Able there to guide me in some different ways to
make sure that we're not doing anything that's going to
upset the community or anything like that. So those guys
have been unbelievable. But it's easy to guide it when
when he scores fifty points a game, it's it's as
a head coach, it's I stay out of their way.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
It's and it's awesome.

Speaker 7 (31:37):
I mean, it's one of those things where you're going
to score fifty a game. I'm not going to say
a word to you. I don't I don't listen to
their game plan. I tell him whether or not it's
four down territory, he calls the plays, he and it's
it's worked. I mean, I think he loves the freedom.
I'm never going to yell at him for a play
call or anything that he decides to do anything like that.

(32:00):
The only thing hard is for an offensive coordinator and
a former quarterback. The guy has some serious energy and
some serious juice that you don't expect from euroc.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
He's fired up all the time.

Speaker 7 (32:14):
He's yelling at refs, he's doing all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
And that was my moo. So when I got in,
I was.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
Like, Okay, I'm going to have to take I took
a back seat a little bit. They're like, hey, You're
pretty calm on the sideline this year. I'm like, if
we're both going nuts, like, I don't know how our
team is going to react. So that's about the only
thing that I've had to adjust a ton is just
being a little bit more calm, collective on the sideline
and let him do let him do him and be crazy.

(32:41):
But you score fifty a game, you can do whatever
you want.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
And that's a pretty good way to approach it. So Hey,
yeah out if Chuck anything to finish up. Guys, thank
you all so much for your time. This is great
for our listeners, not just that you're the state championship coaches,
but you said some really good things here tonight that
if guys want to learn and become better football coaches
and better leaders.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
I think they'd learned a lot from from this episode,
and we're very appreciative. Go ahead, Chuck.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, I second that as well, guys, And we can't
thank you enough for taking the time.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
We know you're tired after a long season, and we
appreciate you taking the time out.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Hey enjoy designing them state championship rings. I know that's
going to be a fun.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Than you appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
But yeah, those guys did a really good job, and
I appreciate how creative they were. And I also appreciate them.
You know, how tough is that to take your staff
out in the cabin and say, hey, guys, we got
to look in the mirror, this is our fault. We
got to get this fixed. I thought, that's impressive. That's
a tough thing. That's a tough thing for any coach
to do, but especially a guy like Sean is so young.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
They all have some good ideas how they navigated it. Hey,
let's get onto the tough topic. And uh, it's anonymous again.
It's what is the right time for an administration to
take a program in a different direction outside of the obvious,
like something illegal or moral or unethical actions by that individual.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
You know, I've been I wanted to have a real clean,
clear cut answer, and I struggled to find it one
I really did. So what I tried to do is
I tried to flip it and look at it as
when as a head coach, I knew that, Hey, you
know what, it's just not really clicking here anymore. Here's

(34:44):
what I would say when you're an administrator and you're
convinced that your vision for the program is superior to
the head coaches to the point that you know what,
the head coach thinks, we need to do a B
and C and I'm not gonna do a B and C.

(35:06):
I don't like it. I don't think that's what we
need to do. I'm not gonna do it. I think
when an administration reaches the point that they're no longer
willing to support the version or the vision of the
current head coach, and I think they gotta I think
they gotta make a change because if you aren't really

(35:27):
sold as an administrator that your head coach has got
the right plan, you're not gonna support him. You're not
gonna help him get what he needs to get. And
you know what, the kids are gonna suffer. The kids
are gonna suffer. So I think in those two pieces,
everybody's got to be on the same page. And if
you reach the point that you can't get on the
same page, then I think you need to make a change.

(35:50):
And uh, I don't necessarily think it's a case always
of somebody's a bad coach or anything like that, but
I mean, you just you get at the end of
the day, this is always about the kids. Okay, it's
not about the adults. It's about the kids. And as
an administrator, you've got to make sure that you're willing

(36:14):
to support the things that head coach wants because that
makes sure the kids get what they need. And if
you're not going to do that, I think there's going
to need to be a change.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, that's a good answer, David.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I took it as from an administrator's standpoint too, because
I felt that's like that's what the question, or felt
like the question was coming from an administrator. But my
answer is when the coach loses control of the direction
of the team and he's not able to get it back, Okay,

(36:47):
when he loses that control, he's not able to get
it back. I think that a coach evaluates at the
end of every season where his program is as as
he pursues his big for the program.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
You know, where's it at?

Speaker 2 (37:02):
As I'm and my my progress uh and and this
plan to uh to get this program where I wanted
words of at. You know, I think as a as
a coach, you evaluate, you make that evaluation that at
the end of every year then you make your adjustments
and your fixes to stay on track to achieve those goals. Okay,

(37:25):
so it is a process. It takes time. You can't
judge success solely by wins and losses. I don't think
the administrator can can judge that success of the coach
because he is evaluating every year. He is staying on
his plan, he is staying with his vision, So you

(37:45):
can't judge it solely by wins and losses.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like, I inherited a program at Campbellsville as a young coach,
and that program was in pretty bad shape. It had
low numbers, very low numbers, and had low morale. And
my second year there, you know, we had twenty five
kids on the team. That's all I could get out
was twenty five kids. Fourteen of them were freshmen, and

(38:12):
only eleven of them were upper classmen. So we're getting
ready to go into the varsity season with eleven upper
class kids and fourteen freshmen. Now, we only won two
games that year.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
That's all we won was.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Two games, And I thought that was one of the
best coaching jobs I had ever done.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
I really did.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I mean, I was really proud of that winning two
games with that roster at the end of the year. So,
but I was also on track with my plan to
turn that program around because I had fourteen freshmen and
I knew I was going to have to build the
numbers up from the bottom up, and so I felt
pretty good about it. I felt like I was on track.

(38:50):
But so I say that to say, you can't judge
success solely by wins and losses. I think as an administrator,
then I think in a minisson has to ask themselves
some key questions when evaluating the coach, and I think
one of them is does he have a vision?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Okay? Does he have a vision? Is he on track
to see that vision through? Okay?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
And can he overcome the obstacles that are hindering him
from his progress?

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Just stay on track to that, stay on a track.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
For his vision, and if those answers are known, then
it's probably time to make a change.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
I like that answer, you know, on that third piece
of it, can he overcome those obstacles? That's where I
would probably turn the administration and say are you going
to help him deal with those obstacles? And if you're not,
then yes, you need to make a change. So I
like that was good detail in the answer. Hey, so

(39:59):
let's get in. Who are mister football candidates? And I
wanted to share a list with you here. When we
started this in twenty twenty two, we looked at this
group as sophomores. These are the people that he picked
out as potential mister football candidates and I think I
think a lot of them are still in the ballpark.

(40:20):
Deuce Bailey at Bowling Green, Brady Atwell from Owensbury Catholic,
Cortes Stone from Central Austin, Alexander from Cooper, Antonio Harris,
who was the six A player and you'll have to
help me out on this was Deuce the five A
player of the year this year. Yes, Deuce was a

(40:40):
five A, so we predicted one. They're the six A Antonio
Harris from Mail The three at excuse me, four A
player of the year was Monovan Quisenberry. We talked about him.
We talked about Bryce Button, the quarterback of South Warren,
but that was that was the extent of our list.

(41:02):
Now since that time, some guys that I've added to
the conversation. Uh, I think Jack James from Tillman would
be added. I think Jaren Johnson from Union County. I
think Clay Hayden from Beechwood, Brock Coufin and Luke Pennington
from Sayer And then, uh, I tell you what I

(41:26):
in trying to dig some things up. Devil May Care
on Bluegrass Preps. If you follow his stuff, he does
a pretty good job. And he had a write up
that included a lot of these guys.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
He made a really good argument for Connor Hodge from
cal who you know coach Cantwell talked about. So those
are some of the people that I've got that I
think are on this list. I don't know. So what
do you know? Do you think do you have a
number one? And who are some names on your list
for mister football?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Well, I just followed along the list that you have
right there. I do have a number one, and I'll
talk about him in just a second. But I like
the I like adding that Connor Hodge, remember if you
remember correctly, his brother co Hodge, I thought, you know,
should have won it last year. He would have he
would have got my vote last year. And I said

(42:19):
that on this show. But I you know, here's what
here's what I got to say about it. And then
I'll talk about the guy that I think should win it. Okay, Uh,
everybody has their opinion of what mister football should be about.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Uh is it their career stats?

Speaker 8 (42:36):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
How do how do you.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Evaluate mister foot ball? Is it their career stats? Is
it their senior year stats?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Did he win the state championship? Is it?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Is he the best college prospect you know in the state? Uh?
Is it?

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Did he lead his team above and beyond the potential
for success? I mean everybody has got a list of
how they think mister football should be evaluated. I don't
know if the people who select mister football has this list,
but I think everybody has got an opinion. Everybody's got
a player, a quarterback or player or a player on

(43:18):
their team that they think had a great year it
should be considered for mister football.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
So I'm no different here, And.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
The choice that I have checks all of those boxes
that I just said. You know, he had he threw
for over three or nearly three thousand yards this year,
thirty nine touchdown passes, ran for eight touchdowns, and he
did that all three years that he was a starter.
So his career stats are going to be mister football worthy.

(43:50):
He is a college prospect. He signed a college scholarship
at Eastern Michigan University this year.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
And he he led his team above and beyond and uh.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
The only thing he only box he didn't check was
he didn't win a state championship and he came uh
and and and but those are you know, all those
all of those checks right there are not the reason
I think he's mister football. And nobody else is going
to know this except for me because he was on
the team that I held and uh, and I'm the
one that knows. And uh, nobody else is going to

(44:26):
do this research when they select mister football.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
But this kid was worthy of it in my opinion.

Speaker 11 (44:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
He came into his senior year, David uh after losing
all of his skill people uh off as a junior
on the junior team, he lost all of his skilled kids.
He lost all of his top receivers just running back.
He even lost him on defense, all the secondary you know.
So the speculation of the team was it was going
to be a down year. Uh, and it was going

(44:54):
to be a down year for his team. And right
before a salt to the wound, right before the season started,
he had UH three of the top five players on
the team decide not to play their senior year. So
here you go, getting ready to start into your senior year.
Three of your teammates, uh that and two of them

(45:16):
were two way starters. One of them would have been
the co captain. I mean, they were the top five
players on the team, three of them, and they decided
for various reasons, uh to Bill Allen this kid and
not play their senior year. And I think basically they
did it because they didn't think the team was going
to be that good.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
And so they went, they they they quit.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
And uh and and uh leaving any team with five
you take five starters off any team going into the
Seaton going into a season, and you're you're you're gonna hurt.
You know, you're gonna hurt. That's that's a big hurt.
And not many, not many can survive that. And uh
sure he was upset about it. He was upset about it.
But instead of letting it run his senior year, he

(46:00):
found a way to take all of these young guys
and they fit with These positions were filled by inexperienced sophomores,
and he took those inexperienced sophomores, and uh, he took
him under his wing, he put them on his shoulders,
and he basically found the way to lead his team

(46:20):
to a twelve and two semi final finish and uh
only a couple of plays away from making the state
championship appearance. Uh So, in my mind, you know, that
sounds like a description of what a mister football should
be all about. And if I had a vote, if
I had a vote, my vote would go to Bryce Button,

(46:43):
the quarterback at South Warren High School.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
He would get my vote.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Hey, I you made a great case for Bryce. You
know one thing that's impressed me. And because I do
have a little more of an insight because of our relationship. Man,
in a day in time when guys are moving around
like crazy going school to school, I'm brilliant. I've got
a lot of respect for Bryce for hanging in there

(47:08):
when you know, he didn't have around him what a
lot of the other players had around then, and he
hung in there at South warn and he got a
lot of respect out of me for that. I guess
I'm supposed to pick a mister football. I'm not kidding.

(47:30):
I'll say these are the guys that at one time
or another. I still here's the thing. I'm not gonna
pretend I got a number one when I don't. I
just don't. I mean, I just don't. Uh. There have
been times that I thought that it was going to
be Deuce Bailey. There were times that I thought I

(47:50):
would go with Brady atwell. Uh, there were times. I
tell you what, Jack James guy, she was impressive in
the state championship game and has had a great career.
Then after my buddy at Bluegrass Preps. I mean, I

(48:13):
really gave a lot of thought to Connor Hodge. I mean,
a guy that has played three positions and has three
state championship rings. You know, I think that's pretty impressive.
So I know you get on me for sitting on
the fence, So I guess I'm sitting on five fences tonight.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I don't think it's a clear cut choice statement.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, I mean as as everybody, everybody's got their argument,
everybody's got their case and why their kids should be
mister football.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
I get all that.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
You know.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
The other thing too, I wanted to say is this.
I think some years you may think one guy's career
outweighs another guy's season. Sometimes somebody's I mean, it's I
really even struggle with what the definition is of mister football,
and I don't I don't know. There's still a lot
of things about it. I don't know what's that.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
But but but some.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
People get really wrapped up in oh, this is a
career award. Oh this is a uh season award. Oh
you you can't get this if you're not the state
champ or I mean, I don't know. I you know,
there's still a lot about it that I that I'm
not sure of it. I mean, I think it's obviously

(49:31):
very similar to a lot of conversations they have about
the Heisman Trophy. So I will say this, Am, if
I'm ranking this group right now, at this very moment,
I would rank number one Connor Hodge. But I'm going
to say this ten minutes from now, I could pick
somebody totally different and and also something else about Connor.

(49:56):
You know you had some You've got an insight with Bryce.
I got to spend some time with Marvin Danceler Saturday
at the state championship. Marvin and I were working together
at the KFCA hospitality room. I'm gonna tell you something,
Marvin can't say enough good things about Connor Hodge as
an athlete and a football player. And you know, I

(50:19):
think I think that that probably that insight and what
Marvin thinks of Connor probably is influencing me a little bit.
And you know what, here's what's crazy. A week ago,
I wouldn't have even had Connor on my radar. I
just hadn't really thought of him. I mean, I'm on
East thought of Connor as Cole's little brother. You know,

(50:40):
I just hadn't thought about him. But I think there's
a pretty good case to be made for him. So anyway,
he's my number one right now. If we talk about
it in ten minutes before we end the show, I
may have somebody else, but right now he's my number one.
So I do want to mention this a little bit
looking forward, and this is not a complete list, okay,
but some twenty twenty five mister football candidates. We've got

(51:04):
Marlon Harvin at Saint X, wide receiver, Evan Hampton, who
you talked about earlier in the year, running back at Owlinsborough,
Cam O'Hare, the very good quarterback at Cooper, Jarvis Strickland
at Paducah, Tillman and then Chase Burton at Mail or
all some guys in that twenty twenty five that if
you look at any of that next list, or.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I haven't looked at the twenty five list, I do
notice your twenty six lists down there, though. I yeah,
I think the Seneca Driver of Boyle County. I know
that I coached his older brother, and I know what
his mother was a student when I was teaching there,
and you could argue that she was the best athlete

(51:47):
boy or girl.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
In the entire school.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
So she was.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
She was quite an athlete herself. And I know that.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
You know, like I said, he's got two other brothers
has played. I coach one of them, and Easy we
called him Easy and uh he he uh. And then
his younger brother, Seneca was in middle school when I
was there, and I know what kind of player he is.

Speaker 8 (52:14):
He's going to be.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Uh, he'll be a legit mister football candidate.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
I got you. I wanted to add some others here.
Zane Johnson, Uh, we just won his second state title
as a quarterback at Trinity. Timmy Amongo. Uh. You know
I was on the phone with coach McKee just last night,
and I tell you what coach McKee's very very high
on Timmy and UH definitely sees him as a guy

(52:39):
that can could be a mister football in Kentucky. Kate
Gooden at Collins very multi dimensional talented quarterback. Garian Hobbs
at at cal plays linebacker. Uh. One of your former assistants,
UH is coaching Brady Hall at Pulaski County and Brady's
uh going to be one of the top linemens in

(53:01):
the state. And then and then the last name again
not not you know, this is not all inclusive, but
Jordan Haskins at Brian's Station, the son of J. T. Haskins. Uh,
he may be a guy. So uh, you know there
there are some of the best good ones coming and UH,
I think we're gonna try next week talk about coach
of the Year.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Sounds good to me?

Speaker 5 (53:23):
I got you? Okay, well man, you talk about next week.
We're gonna try not to go for two or three hours.
But I'm really excited about it. Uh. We're gonna have
ed Ral, Raymond Webb, and Randy rees On together. It's
gonna be our final episode of the year. It's gonna
be our Christmas episode which I'm also gonna reshare the

(53:45):
Christmas episode with the kids because I thought that, Man,
that was a fun episode and we had a blast
with it. But uh, next week we'll have those three
old coaches on there, and man, I love those guys.
I think it's gonna be a great show. And then
we'll talk about the Coach of the Year and then
we'll be heading into Christmas. We'll be getting going.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that show as well, David.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Some old timers, some of the older guys that some
of our older listeners will recognized those names and.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
They'll want to tune in for that.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Hey, don't forget to hang on after we sign off
and listen to Mike's historical segment. It's always really good.
And appreciate you guys tuning in. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 11 (54:28):
Sports, and in particular, high school sports, are roven into
the fabric of Americana. High school sports are part of
the DNA of communities across the country, and that is
certainly true in Kentucky. Fans know the stories of the
big names, but there are many names and many stories
that have been lost to history. This series highlights those

(54:53):
forgotten heroes Welcome to this episode of Forgotten Heroes. I'm
your host, mak Yoko. Usually we talk about forgotten players
or forgotten coaches, but today we're going to take a
look back at some forgotten teams and the fluke that
has forever etched their place in Kentucky history. We recently

(55:15):
crowned six new football state champions. Since two thousand and seven,
there have been six football classifications in Kentucky. From nineteen
seventy five to two thousand and six there were four classes,
with four A having a state division and a Jefferson
County Division, And from nineteen fifty nine to nineteen seventy four,

(55:36):
the biggest schools in the state were in the three
A class. But there was a catch, and today we
looked back at nineteen seventy one. In nineteen seventy one,
there were one hundred and ninety three schools playing football.
Eighty eight were in Class A, seventy six were in
two A, and if you're doing the math, that left

(55:58):
twenty nine in Class three A, and all twenty nine
were in Louisville, and for playoff purposes, those twenty nine
were divided into city schools and county schools. Because at
that time there was Louisville City Schools and Jefferson County Schools,
and the strong Catholic schools were with the city schools.

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The county district was divided into East and West Districts.
In the west were Stuart, Fairdale, Western, Southern, DAWs, Butler, Pleasure,
Ridge Park, Durat and Valley, and in the East district
were Moore, Ballard, fern Creek, Westport, Wagner, Seneca, Jeffersontown, Eastern,
and the state's best team in nineteen seventy one, Thomas Jefferson.

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The city schools were in one district, Central Manual Mayle, Atherton, Iroquois,
and Shawnee were joined by the powerful Catholic schools De Sales, Trinity,
Bishop David, Saint X and Flat. When the playoffs rolled around,
unbeaten Thomas Jefferson and Seneca squared off for the East Region.

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Thomas Jefferson's great running back Mike Northington, scored four touchdowns
in a thirty five to fourteen win before nine thousand
fans at Fairground Stadium. Stewart won the Rest Region seven
to six over Butler to set up a Stuart Thomas
Jefferson Final. Thomas Jefferson used their blazing speed to score

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a fifty six to fourteen win to move to the
state final. The finals of the City Region saw flage
face off with Saint X. Twelve thousand advanced tickets were
sold and it kicked off eighteen thousand fans filled Fairground Stadium.
Flajay didn't disappoint, taking home a twenty six to fourteen win.

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The Braves secured a spot in the three A finals
with Thomas Jefferson. Now this is where it gets interesting.
Flajay with size and power, Thomas Jefferson with speed to burn.
The same two schools had met in nineteen sixty seven
for the state title and Flajay won that contest twenty

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one to nothing. And Flagay Interesting had to raise forty
thousand dollars before June of the next year or they
would be forced to close before twelve thousand fans. Flageay
struck first on a John McGrath twenty six yard pass
to Jim Schuler and the point after missed. Mike Northington

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put Thomas Jefferson on the board with a one yard run,
and again the point after failed. There were two minutes
left in the game. When Northington scored, no one else
was able to put up a touchdown, and the score
finished six to six. Now here's the thing. Under KHSAA

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playoff rules, the game had to end in a tie.
There was no sudden death or overtime provisions in a
championship game. There could only be sudden death in first
or second round games so that one team could advance.
A coin toss awarded Thomas Jefferson the championship trophy to

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take home. Flaja received gold footballs to take home until
a duplicate trophy could be ordered. Imagine that a state
championship game ending in a tie and Flagjay. They didn't
close until nineteen seventy four, so I guess they raised
that forty thousand dollars they needed. Flaja and Thomas Jefferson
are just a couple of the forgotten schools who have

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won Kentucky state football titles. They are the only three
A schools. The other state champions that no longer exist
include former Class A state champions Lynch East Maine, who
won four state titles for Sales, who won in nineteen
six sixty two, Elkhorn City who won in nineteen sixty four,
Mount Sterling who won in nineteen sixty nine and Heath

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who won in nineteen eighty six, and from the two
A division Henderson City who was the nineteen fifty nine
state champions. May their legacies never be forgotten.

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