November 26, 2025 • 46 mins
The coaches welcome retiring Campbell County Coach Brian Weinrich.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Coach David Buchanan.
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Coach Chuck Smith, two legendary high school football coaches. This
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our show tonight. Our guest coach tonight is Brian Rick.
Brian has just retired from Campbell County High School. He's
spent most of his coaching career at Highland's High School,
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where he coached them to the twenty fourteen state championship.
We're gonna bring Brian on in just a second. So
this whole dight our tough topic for tonight is Dave Burntworth.
His question is what can coaches do to get their
numbers up? And David now'll have an answer for that.
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Then the games of the week, we're going to pick
the state finalists in each class. Okay, so just hang
tight with that. We're going to get to that first.
A little bit about Brian before we bring him on.
As I said, coach Ron Rick was the or was
the head coach of Campbell County High School. He just
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recently retired on the postseason of their season, you know,
when their season ended. He retired at Campbell County High School.
He was at Campbell County High School for the twenty
twenty two through the twenty twenty five seasons. I guess
that's four seasons. But prior to that, he was the
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head football coach at Newport for a season of the
twenty twenty one season, and then prior to that is
where he spent most of his career. He was at
Highlands High School I believe from nineteen ninety five all
the way to twenty fourteen, and then he was the
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head coach at Highlands High School. I'm sorry he was
there till twenty twenty. He was the head football coach
there from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty, and as I said,
he won the state championship in twenty fourteen. From nineteen
ninety five as an assistant to twenty thirteen, he was
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the DC for most of that time. He won about
one hundred state championships. No exaggeration there. Brian was about
to tell me how many he won. I couldn't count
them all, but they won a bunch of state championships
during that time that he was an assistant coach and
then later as the defensive coordinator. Brian did play at
Highlands and was on their nineteen eighty nine state championship team.
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So not too many people in the state can say
they played for a state championship, they were an assistant
coach for a state championship, and they were a head
coach for a state championship. That's that's pretty impressive in itself.
Brian did play college football at Campbellsville University. Anybody, guys
that have played with Brian, played for Brian, coach with Brian.
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They all have nothing but good things to say about Brian,
and he just but if you ever meet him, he
is that kind of a guy. He's very he's very likable.
I don't. I think that's just a true testament about
who you are is when people talk really high about
you and the impact that you had on their life
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when you're not around. I think that's a you know,
that's admiration, praise, that's just a true testament of who
you are as a person. David, you want to bring.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Brian on, Hey, I do. I'm going to really go back.
I'm gonna go back about thirty years here. Hey, Brian,
do you remember when I was at Mason County and
I tried to hire you. I think you were like
a volunteer at Highlands. You remember that.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah? Yeah, that was back when there was a job
board or something. I came or where it was, and
there was I was just finishing up school and I needed,
you know, a teaching job too. I couldn't just keep
coaching and hanging out. And Mason County had a social
studies position in an assistant Foball coach position, and we
lived down a wilder right on double A Highway on
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you know, back then, when you're young, you're like that,
when you coming in driving is gonna be that big deal.
That's right, it was uh yeah, it was pretty close
to that happening.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I went after Brian. If nothing else, I make
Dale get things moving. They got even teaching job. But
I tried to make him a royal get down there
and uh he likes that blue and white. I thought
I could keep him. But anyway, ay, Brian, uh man,
it's it's pretty cool to think about that thirty years ago.
But man, thank you so much for joining us tonight
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as a guest and a We're really excited about it.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I appreciate you guys having me this is this is
a really neat experience. And sorry about all the technical
different technical difficulty, but.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well that just means you're officially an old coach. You're
all right?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
H r.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Hey, Bron, I've got the first question here. I've always
and we've we've we've battered each other some, you mostly
as you as the defensive coordinator, but I've always felt
that your defense has had a unique style and it
just were consistently challenging from an offensive standpoint. What was
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your defensive philosophy and what do you think a major
units so effective you know from a schematic.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
View, Well, I mean honest with you, you had a
lot to do with it. You know, we played you
guys in two thousand and three in the regular season
and lost twenty one, and then turn around and played
to you guys in the state finals, and you guys
got a running clock on us. And so we had
quite a bit of film and you know, had a
lot of time to reflect that off season, and you know,
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Coach Mueller made this, you know, the point of the
off seasons that we got to out boil boil, you know,
because we talked about all three that whole year. We
kept talking about how much you guys were like Marines,
and everything you did was just so disciplined and tough
and fast and hard news and it just you know,
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mistakes and you could make a mistakes. And so I said, okay,
what can I do to do that? And so I
was just watching so much film of you guys defensively,
and because I remember our offensive coaches leading up to
that game, you know, they would know where you ever
to line up, and then sure enough, you ever lined
up right where they thought you were going to line up,
and it couldn't get anything. And what I realized right
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then and there was it doesn't have to be complicated,
figure out what it did, you know, And I think
that's the most important thing coaching wise, Like you got
to do what you know and what you're comfortable with
and what you can teach. Uh. You know, if you're
trying to do something or anything about you're you're doing
your players at the service, So be honest with you.
It was a lot from you guys trying to help
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boil boil and that was it just be disciplined to
be great at what we were doing. And that was
just being just obsessed with fundamentals. And you know, we
had we have some drills that you know, instead of
doing drills from a book, we just watched a lot
of tape and said what do we need to get
better at and how can we practice that and get
better at it? So as far as schematically goes, you know,
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we were three three at our personnel and it was
a little bit unique. You know, a lot of teams
did it and playing the option offensively growing up, and
you know I didn't, you know, coach Tony Campbells we
would always talk about how it was hard for other
teams to prepare for us because it was such a
unique offense. And so I thought about that defensively, what
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can we do that's unique and so obsessed with fundamentals
and try to do something a little bit different than
most people were doing it. And you know, we always
talked too about not letting the brain getting away with
the feet. You just play fast, just be be confident,
be physical, be aggressive, and just play fast.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Good.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, you got did a great job of that, really
and your your your your system was pretty unique. I
thought y'all did a really good job. It was always
sound discipline and uh, you know, it's just it gets
back to it's not what you do, it's how you
do it, you know, And that's the way I always
that always drove me. And you guys did a really
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nice job.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know, we played you guys. It was it was
he had burbat on a couple of weeks ago, and
how smart he is. He was our safety and so
got safety. That's gonna you know, fast forward twenty years
even the then coach of Maler and he's your safety.
That that's that's not a bad situation to be it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know, that's something that's come up the last couple
of weeks is you know how much it helps to
have and tell football players this time of year, you know,
to be able to make adjustments, and uh A, Burt.
Burt would certainly follow in that category. You know, uh Ri,
I would ask you about this. You know, you played
for Tom Duffy and then you coached with Dell Bmueller.
They both were successful. How would you compare those two
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guys as the head coach at Highlands? How were they similar?
How were they different?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Wow, they're similar. That they were winners. They were demanding
and that was uh that was a conference when they
also were great at getting a lot out of the
guys and they went about that differently. But like with
coach Duffy, you know my senior class that we you know,
we won the state championship in ninety eight nine. But
as freshmen, we we were in conversation with one of
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the worst freshman football teams in Highlands that we were
we were just not good. And but coach Stuffy came
along and about halfway through our high school career and
he just he just had confidence in us, and he
convinced us to have confidence in ourselves to each other
and convinced us that we were going to out work
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everybody and be tougher in everybody and you know that
nothing was going to get in our way. And he
did it in a way that was you know, he
wasn't naturally the most approachable guy all the time, but
you knew he had your back, and so you wanted
to play for him. And then you know, coach Mueller
was also demanding and got a lot out of his guys,
but he did it and and I don't want to
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say in this word sometimes with football coaches did some
friends a little bit. But we would have fun. You know,
we had fun of practice. You know, he just he
didn't ever think things. He just said, what can we
do to get more athletics and almost tricked the guys
into working real hard while we're having fun. And and
you came up multiple times and watched us, and we
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would just call him tags and we would just make
up games that they really were there in games just
learning how to you know, they didn't actually understand that
they were learning angles and you know, all those different
things with you know, how to make a move in space,
because you know, he just wanted to get a ball
and an offensive guy's hand, get him in space, making
somebody miss. And defensively, we want to make tackles in
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space and so really our whole all season program was
about that. And so the differences weren't how they approached
the practices, but you know again they were they were
both just you know, focused on winning and focused on
the guys getting better all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hey, Brian, we're still using those tag drills and I
those were great. We wore that out at Mason County
and and we we used them as much at Mercer
and and stell and. But but you're right, man, you
can get those guys sprinting and sweating pouring off of
them and they don't really understand that. You know, you're
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doing what you're doing. But but you're right, you can
make that fun. I agree. Go ahead, Chuck, my bet. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I stole some of those tag drills too. We did
them in and Boil as well. I thought they were
pretty good. And uh, and it did make it fun.
It did make it fun. The kids really liked it,
and they were getting better at you know, space playing
and that that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But you know, the last thing for Chuck goes on
what I liked about your tag games and the things
you all did is it sort of felt like, hey,
there's a freedom here to come up with new games
and different games and different ways to do it. It's
like it wasn't like you had this menu of games
that you had to do. Man, you all were pretty
good about, hey, we're going to try something different today.
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And I liked that because I thought that was good
for me and making me change things up. So I'll
be quiet, But I liked that part of your approach
as well.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Ay, Brian, with your coaching career, you know, if you
had a chance to do anything over again, what would
it be. Do you have any regrets with your coaching career?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I think all coaches I don't know if regret is
right where, but I think we've all had games, play
his game plans, you know, whatever the case is a
practice that that we wish we could do over. You
know we we would could have called this, and could
have you know, should have called that. But you know,
people that have never had to take toost calls in
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that moment that they don't understand all the stuff that
goes through in it and through with goes through with
making that call. But you know, there's a lot of
calls you wish you could could do over, and games
you could do over. If there's one thing I wish
that And I would say this all the time. I
probably said it the last week the season this year.
I would just say it to the assistant coaches all
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the time. And I think I've been saying it for
a long time. And I never I never did it.
And that was not let one guy ruin like today,
like you know what I mean, like ruin your mood.
You know that one guy doesn't show up, one guy
has attention, one guy has a social injury, one guy
has a physical injury, and and sometimes you let that
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one thing distract you and pull you away from the
rest of the team that's out there begging to be
coached and want to get better. And I honestly would
have conversations myself that did not let that happen. And
and and it does and and I guess that's something
I wish that. And I'm sure all coaches feel that
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way that you know, about letting that one guy mess
the moment up, whether they do it on purpose or not.
And any other thing I guess is enjoy some of
the moments more. You know, been part of a lot
of great games, you know a lot of just great atmospheres,
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a lot of big games, a lot of big situations
with guys. And I'm not not necessarily talking about the
ones that you make the news. Just sometimes just a
moment with a player, something they did, break through, a
NiFe for him, and you know, as coaches, you're just
games over automatically on the next one, and it's and
even if it's the last end of the season. I mean,
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you know, bus right home from you know, Mulling Green
and you're going through the depth charts, all right, I
lost this guy, lost this guy. Okay, we talked about
moving this guy in this position next season, and you're
not even back at school yet to send them on
their way for the end of the season. And you're
already going through stuff for the next season, as opposed
to you know, enjoying the moment and you know, savoring it.
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But I think that's why coaches are coaches and not fans,
because we're constantly kicking on to that next step.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You know, Ryan, what you said there about letting one kid,
It's like, I look back, I can't believe I was
this stupid and this bad a person, but I had
a kid one morning. Quit. I think we're in two
days he quit, and I was mad at all the
other kids the rest of the day. They're the ones
that are there. I should have been treating them good
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and been nice to them, but instead I'm mad about
the one that quit. And that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, Brian said that really well, because I fit both
of those two points that you uh, that you mentioned.
I would let one, you know, somebody that was laid
or somebody that didn't show run my whole day, And
as soon as we won the state championship, I'd already
have the next year's depth part made out before we
got home. You know, I didn't, you know, but I
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Brian one more follow up here. So for the record, Uh,
you do not regret going to Mason County when you
could have thirty years. That's not one of your regrets.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Oh that was a trick question.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Then, hey, Brian, don't answer it. There's no good way.
There's no good way to come out of that one.
Don't sweat it. Hey. So here's here's my question for you.
When you went to Campbell County, how did you adapt
your approach to being a head coach as compared to
being the head coach at Highlands I mean, I know,
for me, I've been four different places and you sort
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of got a you sort of got to adjust a
little bit. But maybe you did. I don't know. Did
you have to make any adjustments compared to being the
head coach at Hollands to being at Campbell Camp?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yes, and I didn't think I did. I would for first,
I never spent one minute of my assistant coaching career
worrying about being a head coach. I was good where
I was.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I had a great situation.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Kach Bueller was the best head coach ever to work for.
We had great assistant coach you know, basically the entire
state well, I would say seventy percent of the staff
probably was together from ninety five through the entire time
I was there. You know, a couple people every now
and then. But I had no desires and didn't spend
any time thinking about head coaching stuff. We just we
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did what we did. And then, you know, Coach Huller
drops a bomb on me, you know, right before our
team meeting and right after the twenty thirteen seasons, saying
he's going to retire. And I said, you got to
be kidding me. He said, you didn't catch my hints.
I said, hints, I bought lunch last week, don't you remember,
because that's yeah, this character, you know, back to diet, coke, sheese,
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an apple every day. Like for him to buy lunch
was out of character. But to your question, you know,
not spend a lot of time thinking about it, and
I guess I just got used to. You know. The
fortunate thing at a place like Islands was the foundation
was set. The foundation was set a long time ago,
and the expectations were set a long time ago, and
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you guys just knew if you've practiced, started it Monday
at this time, that's when they were there. They showed
up and they travel hard, and that wasn't really something
you had to spend a lot of time worrying about.
And that's what they do and that's what they wanted
to do. You know, coming out to Campbell County. There's
great kids out here, great people. But it was an
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adjustment to I focus on making the norm showing up,
showing up on time like this is this is a commitment.
Did you sign up play football? This This starts you know,
December January and it and it rolls all the way
through and that that that took a while and he
was still building that, but it became the last couple
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of years, it was much it was the norm, you know,
showing up with And that's what I talked to the
guys when I had to meet with them this past Monday,
is you know, I appreciated them making that the norm,
making that the standard, you know, showing up because it
takes a lot of commitment to do it. And the
other thing was the stuff we were just talking about,
like the games and things like that. That's what I
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That's what I knew could get you better as a
football player. I knew that could get you better as
a defense, as an offenses, as a kickoff team. And
bottom didn't you know, they didn't buy into it in
the beginning. They couldn't understand how, you know, playing tag
and all these different we keep calling a tag, but
you know it's it's a lot more depth than that.
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But playing these type games, you know, it took a
long time for them to to really understand and see
the benefits. And once you know all these different drills
we do that they're pretty un orthodox. A couple of
years of doing them, been starting to see them on film,
and then they're starting going, oh okay, we get it now.
And I think I think they're in a position right
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now to really make a turn. There's a lot of
a lot of good young kids out here that that
are completely bought in, and uh, you know, so there
there was an adjustment. You know, they're good guys, but
it's just the standard that they were used to wasn't
what was going to work. And and once we started
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getting that, you know, you know in Northern Kentucky football,
I mean you schedule learn in Kentucky, schedule every week
is brutal. I mean, every week is brutal. You're playing
a class a new caf all the way up to
Ryle and everybody in between, with Lloyd and Beechwood and
Islands and Cooper, and I mean it's just it's a
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gauntlet week after week after week, and it just it
tested you and it really makes you understand how important
showing up every day on time and working real hard
every day, how much that matters.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, hey, you talk about that Gauntlin in Northern Kentucky.
At Paris in ninety three, we won our district. We're
playing Dayton, who's five and five, and my bunch is thinking, man,
this is going to be easy. And I'm like, now,
wait a second. Their losses are to Beechwood, Lloyd new
Cast Bellevue had beat them in one other and I
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mean it was all we could do to beat them.
It was a In fact, there was a time there
the only only team out of our district that could
even win a game. We were the only ones. I mean,
Raceland couldn't beat them, Painsfull couldn't beat them, nobody could.
And you're right about that. I mean, if you come
out of the have of Northern Kentucky and you might
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be seven and three, but you're seven and three better
than a lot of people out of state they're nine
and one or ten. And oh it is a tough,
tough deal. Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, hey go ahead, Uh yeah, Chuck,
you got the next one my bank, Go ahead, Brian.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Just what's next for you? You know, how are you
going to spend retirement?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Well, well, what's funny is you know when my wife
and I talked about making this decision, and you know,
because she she we met each other before she here
in college, and so ever since we've been together, our lives,
our calendars were of all around football calendar and you know,
we were excited to be able to not have that.
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And so she told me a few just make sure
that you don't schedule the banquet for Monday, November twenty fourth.
I bought his tickets to a Christmas concert. I said,
a right, good, no banquet on number twenty fourth. And
so last week or earlier this week, whenever it was
that you contacted me and I made a comment here.
I said, yeah, I said you Monday night, and she's
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like okay and doesn't say anything. And then yesterday or
it was Saturday, and I made a comment and she said, yeah,
that concert, I'm just going to go with go with
one of my friends. And I'm like, oh my gosh.
She's like, we'll just let him know that. You know,
the whole point of your retiring was to give us
time to do things without the football schedule. That schedule
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in football is something else, football wise scheduled. So I
don't I don't know what what's next. I still have
to teach you a couple more years to maximize that
and that. That's been one of the hard things with
with this is I, uh, you know, I've just tried
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to be a good company guy and not press the
issue too much. And you know, teach in full classes
all day long and and head coaches, it's very you know,
it's hard, it's very stressful, it's exhausting. And uh that
that that had a lot to do with you know it.
Know it was time to just kind of step back
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and take a break and see what happens from there.
But you know, I just I plan on hanging out.
I know that. Uh you know, we got a Disney
trip playing sometime soon. But the big thing is what
my daughters get married next September, and that's the that's
the focus of this house for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Hey, if I didn't know better, i'd say, your daughter
playing that wedding to force your hand to make you retire.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
You know. And she's she has been the absolute biggest
supporter and big fan. I mean, she's it's ridiculous how
dedicated she is of a fan. Even when my wife
couldn't go to game, my daughter would drive by herself
and keep me in the stand. And so you know,
this is her time and we're going to make sure
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it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, man, I hope you guys have a great wedding
and he congratulations, man, you have absolutely killed Kentucky high
school football. I'm glad what Chuck said about as a
player and assistant and a head coach and that that's
got to be an extremely short list. That's very impressive,
Very rob.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Brian, Is there any is there any consideration about joining
the Chalk Brothers up there in northern Kentucky?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
What with the old man?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Oh my god, No, no, that's all him. One funny story,
real quick is we were we went out to breakfast
yesterday morning and ran into Jared Lorenzo's dad and we
were talking and I was saying how my first coaching
job was nineteen ninety five, and deer was He said,
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you know you're gonna help coach freshman And then I said,
I'm want to help with Barthy as much as I can.
And they said, okay, cool is there. Here's your quarterback
and here's your tight end. And it was Jared Lorenzen.
It was a quarterback and Derrick Smith was the tight end.
I didn't know who they were, so we just lined
up and we're scoring fifteen points a game, and I'm thinking,
this coaching thing is the easiest thing. I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's a great.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I mean to walk in your first shot at a
freshman coach have Jerry Lorenzo. It was a farsity caliber
quarterbacks pressman football.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It was.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
It was a cool experience.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That's pretty cool. That's that's a neat story. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Thank you, Brian. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Brian, You've been super thanks for doing this. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I really appreciate it. I appreciate listening to all these
podcasts and it's a great thing for high school football.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Appreciate you, Thank you, Good luck to you.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right, Well, David, Now, Brian made me feel bad
with his wife.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I know, I'm like, I feel like I'm a bad
husband now in multiple marriages, not just my own, you know,
like Lee, and you're right there with me, big boy,
don't you mean me?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
These coaches wives are good women. They are.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah. We can't we really we really can't. Yeah, I
mean they are. They are special people, they really are
they Yeah, yeah, I mean yes, Hey.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
David, we're going to go to the next phase segment
of the show. And that is of course our tough
copy and it's from Dave Burntworth. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
The just correct?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, And the question is what can coaches do to
get numbers upsides besides.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Baby Yeah, yeah, well, uh, hey, I'll go first. Uh
And this really, this one goes back to my dad
and it was very simple, and I think it's simple,
but I still think it's the best one. And he
said this, he said, the best, the best way to
get your numbers up. He said, treat the kids you've got,
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treat them well, and if you treat them well, they're
going to recruit other kids for you. He says that,
and that was really the end of the story for him.
And I think that's most important. But I don't. I
don't think that can just be it anymore. And uh,
you know one thing I copied off of you is
the youth camps. You know, we do a Friday night camp.
We're doing camps in during school with all the fifth graders,
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and then we also do a morning camp with the
sixth graders, so we go to them to the school.
It's a very short camp and I'm not going to
get into all the details on all of it, but
youth camps, we do a recruit night, which we make
like a college program, have have recruits come to a
college basketball game. We'll feed them, they'll meet our coaches
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and all that. And that's copied off of the way
that colleges would do recruiting back in the day with
official visits. I think social media can help be visible
and active in your high school. Attend extracurricular activities, be
supportive of multi sport athletes if that's a big one,
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and then you'll get a kick out of this. I mean,
this is where we are in twenty twenty five. Find
a reason to write a handwritten note to their house today.
I had no idea what I was going to do
this today, but I met somebody. I won't go into
the whole thing. To make a long story short, I
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wrote a note to a fourth grader today and send
it to his house that I've never met before. But
if people think, well, that's crazy, but it's like I
just I think there's I think he got to do
some things that others will think of extreme or you know,
not necessary, But I think it's I think it takes
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a lot of hard work. And then the flip side
of it is, though you know, our numbers have been up.
We got up over seventy five at Mercer my last
three years in A three A school we had seventy
and you know, we don't bave in. We don't we
don't kiss their tails. We hold them accountable, but we
try to make all the other things around it make
it attractive so that they want to be part of
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our program. And I do think this. I wish i'd
put this in here, but I still think Friday night
high school football is one of the best things in
small town America. And I think you've got to work
really hard to make people aware of it because I
think I think we've got the best commodity for a
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young man that's there. I don't think there's anything better.
And I feel like if I can just help them
understand that, that's going to draw into the program. So
that's long or short, that's my antron. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Well, of course, I agree with a lot of things
you said. I've probably done a lot of those things
that you said I did.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I didn't need them off for you recruit.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But I've always believed that you have to work from
the ground up. That that was my philosophy and my belief. Uh,
you know, this is the foundation of your program. So
I would start really young. I always thought it was
really difficult to recruit high school kids. I thought that
was tough. But as far as when I got into
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you know, trying to build my numbers, trying to build
my program, I started from the ground up. I started
the young kids, with the with the uh uh you know,
youth camps and uh. I even wrote you know, letters
to some middle school kids before uh. I mean, I
tried all of those things as well, and I think
they paid off. I really do. I think it was
good stuff. As far as recruiting high school kids, I
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only recruited, you know, like select active ones in the
high school the ones that I thought that and that
we thought as a staff could help us win, those
were the ones that I tried to recruit. I think that,
you know, you got to be careful, you know, recruiting
high school kids to get your numbers up. I really think.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
You know, if you if you get the wrong kids
and they joined for the wrong reasons, they joined because
you talked them into it, not because they really wanted
to play, then I think they can probably do more
damage to your program than good. So I didn't never
I didn't spend a lot of time recruiting high school
kids unless it was a kid that was athletic that
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I thought could come out and help us right away.
And I would I would. I would go all in
on it if I thought there were somebody there, and
I would recruit them hard. But basically, you know, that's
that's that's how I did it. And if you do
recruit from the ground up, you're usually always going to
have good number, you know, and make sure you have
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a good school coach, uh that keeps kids out, and
make sure you have a good freshman JV coach that
keeps kids out. And I think that's how you keep
your numbers up.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You know. I'll try to track it, like I'll make
a list of the high school kids we tried to
recruit when I went to each new place and all
that kind of stuff, and UH, at Mason and Mercer,
I thought we got one or two new high school
kids out that really helped us. And and Anderson, I
tell you what we it almost all of the influx
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and improven in numbers has come from from the eighth
graders to the freshman and on a I mean almost
all of it. It's just it just has not it
hasn't been the same, and it's been tough, but I
sort of figured out, you know, it's it's pretty much
probably decided by the time they're a freshmen at Anderson
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County already made. Yeah they have yeah, Yeah, so hey
that and that's fine. I wish those guys the best.
I don't know, I tell you what. One of the
things I guess I changed a little bit on is
and I sort of blame you and my dad and
Coach Frinch's. You know, I used to have a mindset
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that I thought we could take about anybody and make
them a football player. I don't think that as much
as I used to. I don't. Maybe it's because now
I'm playing against better people and so I know it's
gonna be tougher. But you know, used to, I mean,
part of was ego, part of me being stubborn. I
think I can take that guy and I can make
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him a football player. And I don't think that as
much as I used to. I just have the right
to play football. You're gonna have the right mentality. Yeah,
And maybe that's it, because I don't think there's as
much of that mindset in twenty twenty five as there
was when my dad's was at Boyle and Mercer and
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you and coach French and our mindset is not does
not prevail like the old days. It just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Hey, David, let's go into the last segment, which is
where we pick state finalists. But first, let's recap last week. Okay,
all right, you hit nine out of eleven. Last week,
you hit ten out of eleven. This past week, you
hit nine out of eleven.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Anybody, So what were the two I missed? I don't
even remember now.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Oh, I don't remember either. I don't remember it. I
can look it up, but I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, I know one was I missed Scott County beaton Woodford. One.
I missed that one. Don't worry about it, that's all right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But anyway, you've hit twenty out of twenty three for
the year so far in the playoffs. Wow, all right,
that's pretty impressive. Uh I hit last week, I hit
eight out of eleven, so I wasn't too far there,
you go that we ago that I was less than
fifty percent. And so for the year, I've got fifteen
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out of twenty three so far. I've gotten up over by.
But uh now, let's get into uh this week's and
this is the uh. This is the semi finals. This
is this is you know, the uh, the right to
go to the big show. You know, yes, sir, we'll
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start with one A. Okay, first first game up is
Pipeful and Raceling. For God's sakes, this is every year.
It's they're either playing for the state championship or the
semi finals. Pipeful and Raceling. Every year. It's just a
common it's just a common occurrence. Ye, Pipeful, you're taking
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Pipeful now?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yep? You know.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Pipeful's had a kind of a down year to to
their standards. I know they're in the semi finals, but
usually they need by hundred points. I think I'm gonna
go with Racelin.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
There you go, all right?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Campbellsville and k c D. I think they play yeah
one earlier in the year. Boy, you're pretty close.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Fire tonight.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, Well, we're.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Not going to agree because I'm going with Campbellsville. I
think Campbell you can't be a good team.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Twice like that, I got you, all right, won the
first one Campbellsville.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Really No, I don't wrong moment, I don't think so.
How about two A? How about Beachwood and Owensboro Catholic.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Let's go Beachwood.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know how anybody's gonna beat
those guys. They just they just don't like about there.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, I'm going to Beachwood too.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
How about Belfree and l c A l.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
C A l c A Yep.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
And that's that LCA too. I tell you, I just
think there's some magic going on at Belfrey. I really do.
I know it's gonna be hard. I think l c
A is probably the heavy favorite. But you know what,
I think I am going to go with Belfrey in
this game.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Three A David and we got Bell County who's always there.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
And Cal.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
I mean dal Oh, somebody's gonna have to get close
to beating them before you can pick against Cal. You
know they're going for the four P. I don't see
anybody beating myself. How about Murray and Lloyd Memorial?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
All right, now, you may get me slow down on
that one. Is that I think it's at Murray, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
No, it's at Lloyd. That's along time.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Lloyd GUYSH Well, I tell you what I'm going to
go back to. I'm going to bring up a bad
memory He's come to Mercer County in eighty six. I
think they're both really good. I do, But I think
I'm gonna go with Murray. I think Murray's going to give.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Him well, I thought for sure you'd go with and
Murray got some magic going on.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
They do.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
But I'm I'm going Floy I'm going Floyd.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, hey, that's a I had a lot of good
nights up there, a lot of good memories in November.
I mean, I can see him, I can see him
doing it. I can right.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Four A, You've got Corbin and Boyle. That's become a
good rivalry. Yes, Boyle, I'm gonna go with Boyle as well.
Corbyn just hadn't been consistent enough. Corby's got some good players,
but they just hadn't been as consistent this year as
I think they have been in the past. How about
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Paduca Tilman and Franklin Franklin County. Really, Yeah, you're surprising.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Me a little bit.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
That's who I'm going with too, is Franklin. But you're
kind of surprising me with your picks tonight. You're kind
of pulling me off a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Here.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Uh, let's go, let's go to.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Five going you off because I'm not telling you five
stories for every game we're picking. I'm trying to keep
a lid on it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Fire sold me off.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah about five.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Let's go with Atherton and Pulaski County. Atherton, Well, I'm
gonna go with Pulaski. They gotta go to Pulaski. Yes,
you play that physical brand of ball, it might pay off.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Uh yeah, I mean here's the thing. Every game you've
got up here, I mean, yeah, they're they're both good.
They're they're not good there. It wouldn't be in the
semi finals.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
They wouldn't be in the semi finals. Everybody's good.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Let's go with Woodford, your your district and Borough Woodford,
I figured you'd picked that one. I want to go
with Orangsboro. That running back is the real deal. I
mean i'd give times. I'd give it to him forty
times in this game.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Well, I mean, though, I will tell you this, though
I know Hampton's really good, but one of the best
d linemen I've seen in a long time. Guys, I'm
gonna have to look up his name. Uh, big number
eighty eight for Woodford County. He is really good. He
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is really good. He he can he can shoot a
gap and pick a side and get there, or he
can attack you head up and squeeze and cross face.
I think I think eighty eight. I want, I want.
Since I brought his name up, I'm on, I'm gonna
try to right up his number. Uh let's see here,
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tag on it. Dude, I can't even find it here now,
but uh.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
You can look for it. And uh, David at six's
a and there's a conflict of interest. So we're not
going to pick in in six.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I don't want to, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
I don't want to do that either, and uh, you know,
but they've got some good games. We've got Rile in
South Yorick and we got say next in Trendity two
really uh not, all four of them are really nice team.
So uh that'll be an interesting the way that turns out.
But we won't pick those because I do have a
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little bit of a conflict of interest there.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Absolutely. Yeah, as friends, I want to say good luck
to you guys. Hey, number eighty eight. Name from Woodford
County that I think is crazy good. His name is
Josiam McKee. But I think he I think he's really good.
I mean, I he litt if I ways say he's
the best player I saw season, but he's in the conversation.
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He's really a good player. Hey, lucky me. I think
he's only a junior. How great is that I get
to see him next year?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, yep, well he uh, he's gonna have his hands
full of this week. That yeah, flying up in there.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Well and then a the Woodford quarterback. Uh. During COVID,
I couldn't do my quarterback workouts because of khes double eight,
but Trish for could and Fights Combs would come to
our neighborhood at seven am so we wouldn't get busted
by the governor, and they do workouts. Hey, Fights would
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drop the ball. Frostford took a pool noodle and tied
it around fights His mid section, so Fights would have
to keep the ball up here. Anyway, Fights is the
quarterback at Woodford County, and we're really proud of him,
and he's doing a good job. I got to see firsthand.
Those guys are good.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Hey, David, what do you got for us for next week?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Well, I tell you what. Right now, it's a little
bit up in the air. Uh, We're gonna sort of
see maybe how these games play out. Uh, sort of
doing a little digging. May look at some coaches with
some state championship uh background, maybe bring them in even
our I tell you what our tough topic is really
up in the air right now too. So hey, if
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listeners through social media or email want to send us
a tough topic, they send that to us. Uh things,
but yeah, things right now are uh you know, they're
pretty fluid. And they're fluid because we want to do
a great job for our listeners. So that's why we're fluid.
And uh, it's just like coaching on Friday night. You
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gotta be able to adjust. And we're gonna have to
do some adjusting Saturday and figure out what the best
way is if if we don't pull the trigger before
Saturday and pick another guest. But hey again, social media, email,
put it on Bluegrass Preps. You got suggestions, whether it's
for a coach or a tough topic, they send it
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to us, and hey, we'll go from there.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Sounds exciting, Kate, Wait, thank you all for being I'll
see We'll see you next week.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
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our show tonight. Our guest coach tonight is Brian Rick.
Brian has just retired from Campbell County High School. He's
spent most of his coaching career at Highland's High School,
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where he coached them to the twenty fourteen state championship.
We're gonna bring Brian on in just a second. So
this whole dight our tough topic for tonight is Dave Burntworth.
His question is what can coaches do to get their
numbers up? And David now'll have an answer for that.
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Then the games of the week, we're going to pick
the state finalists in each class. Okay, so just hang
tight with that. We're going to get to that first.
A little bit about Brian before we bring him on.
As I said, coach Ron Rick was the or was
the head coach of Campbell County High School. He just
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recently retired on the postseason of their season, you know,
when their season ended. He retired at Campbell County High School.
He was at Campbell County High School for the twenty
twenty two through the twenty twenty five seasons. I guess
that's four seasons. But prior to that, he was the
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head football coach at Newport for a season of the
twenty twenty one season, and then prior to that is
where he spent most of his career. He was at
Highlands High School I believe from nineteen ninety five all
the way to twenty fourteen, and then he was the
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head coach at Highlands High School. I'm sorry he was
there till twenty twenty. He was the head football coach
there from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty, and as I said,
he won the state championship in twenty fourteen. From nineteen
ninety five as an assistant to twenty thirteen, he was
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the DC for most of that time. He won about
one hundred state championships. No exaggeration there. Brian was about
to tell me how many he won. I couldn't count
them all, but they won a bunch of state championships
during that time that he was an assistant coach and
then later as the defensive coordinator. Brian did play at
Highlands and was on their nineteen eighty nine state championship team.
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So not too many people in the state can say
they played for a state championship, they were an assistant
coach for a state championship, and they were a head
coach for a state championship. That's that's pretty impressive in itself.
Brian did play college football at Campbellsville University. Anybody, guys
that have played with Brian, played for Brian, coach with Brian.
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They all have nothing but good things to say about Brian,
and he just but if you ever meet him, he
is that kind of a guy. He's very he's very likable.
I don't. I think that's just a true testament about
who you are is when people talk really high about
you and the impact that you had on their life
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when you're not around. I think that's a you know,
that's admiration, praise, that's just a true testament of who
you are as a person. David, you want to bring.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Brian on, Hey, I do. I'm going to really go back.
I'm gonna go back about thirty years here. Hey, Brian,
do you remember when I was at Mason County and
I tried to hire you. I think you were like
a volunteer at Highlands. You remember that.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah? Yeah, that was back when there was a job
board or something. I came or where it was, and
there was I was just finishing up school and I needed,
you know, a teaching job too. I couldn't just keep
coaching and hanging out. And Mason County had a social
studies position in an assistant Foball coach position, and we
lived down a wilder right on double A Highway on
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you know, back then, when you're young, you're like that,
when you coming in driving is gonna be that big deal.
That's right, it was uh yeah, it was pretty close
to that happening.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I went after Brian. If nothing else, I make
Dale get things moving. They got even teaching job. But
I tried to make him a royal get down there
and uh he likes that blue and white. I thought
I could keep him. But anyway, ay, Brian, uh man,
it's it's pretty cool to think about that thirty years ago.
But man, thank you so much for joining us tonight
(05:56):
as a guest and a We're really excited about it.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I appreciate you guys having me this is this is
a really neat experience. And sorry about all the technical
different technical difficulty, but.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Well that just means you're officially an old coach. You're
all right?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
H r.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Hey, Bron, I've got the first question here. I've always
and we've we've we've battered each other some, you mostly
as you as the defensive coordinator, but I've always felt
that your defense has had a unique style and it
just were consistently challenging from an offensive standpoint. What was
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your defensive philosophy and what do you think a major
units so effective you know from a schematic.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
View, Well, I mean honest with you, you had a
lot to do with it. You know, we played you
guys in two thousand and three in the regular season
and lost twenty one, and then turn around and played
to you guys in the state finals, and you guys
got a running clock on us. And so we had
quite a bit of film and you know, had a
lot of time to reflect that off season, and you know,
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Coach Mueller made this, you know, the point of the
off seasons that we got to out boil boil, you know,
because we talked about all three that whole year. We
kept talking about how much you guys were like Marines,
and everything you did was just so disciplined and tough
and fast and hard news and it just you know,
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mistakes and you could make a mistakes. And so I said, okay,
what can I do to do that? And so I
was just watching so much film of you guys defensively,
and because I remember our offensive coaches leading up to
that game, you know, they would know where you ever
to line up, and then sure enough, you ever lined
up right where they thought you were going to line up,
and it couldn't get anything. And what I realized right
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then and there was it doesn't have to be complicated,
figure out what it did, you know, And I think
that's the most important thing coaching wise, Like you got
to do what you know and what you're comfortable with
and what you can teach. Uh. You know, if you're
trying to do something or anything about you're you're doing
your players at the service, So be honest with you.
It was a lot from you guys trying to help
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boil boil and that was it just be disciplined to
be great at what we were doing. And that was
just being just obsessed with fundamentals. And you know, we
had we have some drills that you know, instead of
doing drills from a book, we just watched a lot
of tape and said what do we need to get
better at and how can we practice that and get
better at it? So as far as schematically goes, you know,
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we were three three at our personnel and it was
a little bit unique. You know, a lot of teams
did it and playing the option offensively growing up, and
you know I didn't, you know, coach Tony Campbells we
would always talk about how it was hard for other
teams to prepare for us because it was such a
unique offense. And so I thought about that defensively, what
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can we do that's unique and so obsessed with fundamentals
and try to do something a little bit different than
most people were doing it. And you know, we always
talked too about not letting the brain getting away with
the feet. You just play fast, just be be confident,
be physical, be aggressive, and just play fast.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Good.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, you got did a great job of that, really
and your your your your system was pretty unique. I
thought y'all did a really good job. It was always
sound discipline and uh, you know, it's just it gets
back to it's not what you do, it's how you
do it, you know, And that's the way I always
that always drove me. And you guys did a really
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nice job.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know, we played you guys. It was it was
he had burbat on a couple of weeks ago, and
how smart he is. He was our safety and so
got safety. That's gonna you know, fast forward twenty years
even the then coach of Maler and he's your safety.
That that's that's not a bad situation to be it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
You know, that's something that's come up the last couple
of weeks is you know how much it helps to
have and tell football players this time of year, you know,
to be able to make adjustments, and uh A, Burt.
Burt would certainly follow in that category. You know, uh Ri,
I would ask you about this. You know, you played
for Tom Duffy and then you coached with Dell Bmueller.
They both were successful. How would you compare those two
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guys as the head coach at Highlands? How were they similar?
How were they different?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Wow, they're similar. That they were winners. They were demanding
and that was uh that was a conference when they
also were great at getting a lot out of the
guys and they went about that differently. But like with
coach Duffy, you know my senior class that we you know,
we won the state championship in ninety eight nine. But
as freshmen, we we were in conversation with one of
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the worst freshman football teams in Highlands that we were
we were just not good. And but coach Stuffy came
along and about halfway through our high school career and
he just he just had confidence in us, and he
convinced us to have confidence in ourselves to each other
and convinced us that we were going to out work
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everybody and be tougher in everybody and you know that
nothing was going to get in our way. And he
did it in a way that was you know, he
wasn't naturally the most approachable guy all the time, but
you knew he had your back, and so you wanted
to play for him. And then you know, coach Mueller
was also demanding and got a lot out of his guys,
but he did it and and I don't want to
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say in this word sometimes with football coaches did some
friends a little bit. But we would have fun. You know,
we had fun of practice. You know, he just he
didn't ever think things. He just said, what can we
do to get more athletics and almost tricked the guys
into working real hard while we're having fun. And and
you came up multiple times and watched us, and we
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would just call him tags and we would just make
up games that they really were there in games just
learning how to you know, they didn't actually understand that
they were learning angles and you know, all those different
things with you know, how to make a move in space,
because you know, he just wanted to get a ball
and an offensive guy's hand, get him in space, making
somebody miss. And defensively, we want to make tackles in
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space and so really our whole all season program was
about that. And so the differences weren't how they approached
the practices, but you know again they were they were
both just you know, focused on winning and focused on
the guys getting better all the time.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hey, Brian, we're still using those tag drills and I
those were great. We wore that out at Mason County
and and we we used them as much at Mercer
and and stell and. But but you're right, man, you
can get those guys sprinting and sweating pouring off of
them and they don't really understand that. You know, you're
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doing what you're doing. But but you're right, you can
make that fun. I agree. Go ahead, Chuck, my bet. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I stole some of those tag drills too. We did
them in and Boil as well. I thought they were
pretty good. And uh, and it did make it fun.
It did make it fun. The kids really liked it,
and they were getting better at you know, space playing
and that that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But you know, the last thing for Chuck goes on
what I liked about your tag games and the things
you all did is it sort of felt like, hey,
there's a freedom here to come up with new games
and different games and different ways to do it. It's
like it wasn't like you had this menu of games
that you had to do. Man, you all were pretty
good about, hey, we're going to try something different today.
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And I liked that because I thought that was good
for me and making me change things up. So I'll
be quiet, But I liked that part of your approach
as well.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Ay, Brian, with your coaching career, you know, if you
had a chance to do anything over again, what would
it be. Do you have any regrets with your coaching career?
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I think all coaches I don't know if regret is
right where, but I think we've all had games, play
his game plans, you know, whatever the case is a
practice that that we wish we could do over. You
know we we would could have called this, and could
have you know, should have called that. But you know,
people that have never had to take toost calls in
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that moment that they don't understand all the stuff that
goes through in it and through with goes through with
making that call. But you know, there's a lot of
calls you wish you could could do over, and games
you could do over. If there's one thing I wish
that And I would say this all the time. I
probably said it the last week the season this year.
I would just say it to the assistant coaches all
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the time. And I think I've been saying it for
a long time. And I never I never did it.
And that was not let one guy ruin like today,
like you know what I mean, like ruin your mood.
You know that one guy doesn't show up, one guy
has attention, one guy has a social injury, one guy
has a physical injury, and and sometimes you let that
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one thing distract you and pull you away from the
rest of the team that's out there begging to be
coached and want to get better. And I honestly would
have conversations myself that did not let that happen. And
and and it does and and I guess that's something
I wish that. And I'm sure all coaches feel that
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way that you know, about letting that one guy mess
the moment up, whether they do it on purpose or not.
And any other thing I guess is enjoy some of
the moments more. You know, been part of a lot
of great games, you know a lot of just great atmospheres,
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a lot of big games, a lot of big situations
with guys. And I'm not not necessarily talking about the
ones that you make the news. Just sometimes just a
moment with a player, something they did, break through, a
NiFe for him, and you know, as coaches, you're just
games over automatically on the next one, and it's and
even if it's the last end of the season. I mean,
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you know, bus right home from you know, Mulling Green
and you're going through the depth charts, all right, I
lost this guy, lost this guy. Okay, we talked about
moving this guy in this position next season, and you're
not even back at school yet to send them on
their way for the end of the season. And you're
already going through stuff for the next season, as opposed
to you know, enjoying the moment and you know, savoring it.
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But I think that's why coaches are coaches and not fans,
because we're constantly kicking on to that next step.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
You know, Ryan, what you said there about letting one kid,
It's like, I look back, I can't believe I was
this stupid and this bad a person, but I had
a kid one morning. Quit. I think we're in two
days he quit, and I was mad at all the
other kids the rest of the day. They're the ones
that are there. I should have been treating them good
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and been nice to them, but instead I'm mad about
the one that quit. And that's a great point.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, Brian said that really well, because I fit both
of those two points that you uh, that you mentioned.
I would let one, you know, somebody that was laid
or somebody that didn't show run my whole day, And
as soon as we won the state championship, I'd already
have the next year's depth part made out before we
got home. You know, I didn't, you know, but I
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Brian one more follow up here. So for the record, Uh,
you do not regret going to Mason County when you
could have thirty years. That's not one of your regrets.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Oh that was a trick question.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Then, hey, Brian, don't answer it. There's no good way.
There's no good way to come out of that one.
Don't sweat it. Hey. So here's here's my question for you.
When you went to Campbell County, how did you adapt
your approach to being a head coach as compared to
being the head coach at Highlands I mean, I know,
for me, I've been four different places and you sort
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of got a you sort of got to adjust a
little bit. But maybe you did. I don't know. Did
you have to make any adjustments compared to being the
head coach at Hollands to being at Campbell Camp?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Yes, and I didn't think I did. I would for first,
I never spent one minute of my assistant coaching career
worrying about being a head coach. I was good where
I was.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I had a great situation.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
Kach Bueller was the best head coach ever to work for.
We had great assistant coach you know, basically the entire
state well, I would say seventy percent of the staff
probably was together from ninety five through the entire time
I was there. You know, a couple people every now
and then. But I had no desires and didn't spend
any time thinking about head coaching stuff. We just we
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did what we did. And then, you know, Coach Huller
drops a bomb on me, you know, right before our
team meeting and right after the twenty thirteen seasons, saying
he's going to retire. And I said, you got to
be kidding me. He said, you didn't catch my hints.
I said, hints, I bought lunch last week, don't you remember,
because that's yeah, this character, you know, back to diet, coke, sheese,
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an apple every day. Like for him to buy lunch
was out of character. But to your question, you know,
not spend a lot of time thinking about it, and
I guess I just got used to. You know. The
fortunate thing at a place like Islands was the foundation
was set. The foundation was set a long time ago,
and the expectations were set a long time ago, and
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you guys just knew if you've practiced, started it Monday
at this time, that's when they were there. They showed
up and they travel hard, and that wasn't really something
you had to spend a lot of time worrying about.
And that's what they do and that's what they wanted
to do. You know, coming out to Campbell County. There's
great kids out here, great people. But it was an
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adjustment to I focus on making the norm showing up,
showing up on time like this is this is a commitment.
Did you sign up play football? This This starts you know,
December January and it and it rolls all the way
through and that that that took a while and he
was still building that, but it became the last couple
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of years, it was much it was the norm, you know,
showing up with And that's what I talked to the
guys when I had to meet with them this past Monday,
is you know, I appreciated them making that the norm,
making that the standard, you know, showing up because it
takes a lot of commitment to do it. And the
other thing was the stuff we were just talking about,
like the games and things like that. That's what I
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That's what I knew could get you better as a
football player. I knew that could get you better as
a defense, as an offenses, as a kickoff team. And
bottom didn't you know, they didn't buy into it in
the beginning. They couldn't understand how, you know, playing tag
and all these different we keep calling a tag, but
you know it's it's a lot more depth than that.
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But playing these type games, you know, it took a
long time for them to to really understand and see
the benefits. And once you know all these different drills
we do that they're pretty un orthodox. A couple of
years of doing them, been starting to see them on film,
and then they're starting going, oh okay, we get it now.
And I think I think they're in a position right
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now to really make a turn. There's a lot of
a lot of good young kids out here that that
are completely bought in, and uh, you know, so there
there was an adjustment. You know, they're good guys, but
it's just the standard that they were used to wasn't
what was going to work. And and once we started
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getting that, you know, you know in Northern Kentucky football,
I mean you schedule learn in Kentucky, schedule every week
is brutal. I mean, every week is brutal. You're playing
a class a new caf all the way up to
Ryle and everybody in between, with Lloyd and Beechwood and
Islands and Cooper, and I mean it's just it's a
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gauntlet week after week after week, and it just it
tested you and it really makes you understand how important
showing up every day on time and working real hard
every day, how much that matters.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah, hey, you talk about that Gauntlin in Northern Kentucky.
At Paris in ninety three, we won our district. We're
playing Dayton, who's five and five, and my bunch is thinking, man,
this is going to be easy. And I'm like, now,
wait a second. Their losses are to Beechwood, Lloyd new
Cast Bellevue had beat them in one other and I
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mean it was all we could do to beat them.
It was a In fact, there was a time there
the only only team out of our district that could
even win a game. We were the only ones. I mean,
Raceland couldn't beat them, Painsfull couldn't beat them, nobody could.
And you're right about that. I mean, if you come
out of the have of Northern Kentucky and you might
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be seven and three, but you're seven and three better
than a lot of people out of state they're nine
and one or ten. And oh it is a tough,
tough deal. Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, hey go ahead, Uh yeah, Chuck,
you got the next one my bank, Go ahead, Brian.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Just what's next for you? You know, how are you
going to spend retirement?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Well, well, what's funny is you know when my wife
and I talked about making this decision, and you know,
because she she we met each other before she here
in college, and so ever since we've been together, our lives,
our calendars were of all around football calendar and you know,
we were excited to be able to not have that.
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And so she told me a few just make sure
that you don't schedule the banquet for Monday, November twenty fourth.
I bought his tickets to a Christmas concert. I said,
a right, good, no banquet on number twenty fourth. And
so last week or earlier this week, whenever it was
that you contacted me and I made a comment here.
I said, yeah, I said you Monday night, and she's
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like okay and doesn't say anything. And then yesterday or
it was Saturday, and I made a comment and she said, yeah,
that concert, I'm just going to go with go with
one of my friends. And I'm like, oh my gosh.
She's like, we'll just let him know that. You know,
the whole point of your retiring was to give us
time to do things without the football schedule. That schedule
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in football is something else, football wise scheduled. So I
don't I don't know what what's next. I still have
to teach you a couple more years to maximize that
and that. That's been one of the hard things with
with this is I, uh, you know, I've just tried
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to be a good company guy and not press the
issue too much. And you know, teach in full classes
all day long and and head coaches, it's very you know,
it's hard, it's very stressful, it's exhausting. And uh that
that that had a lot to do with you know it.
Know it was time to just kind of step back
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and take a break and see what happens from there.
But you know, I just I plan on hanging out.
I know that. Uh you know, we got a Disney
trip playing sometime soon. But the big thing is what
my daughters get married next September, and that's the that's
the focus of this house for a while.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Hey, if I didn't know better, i'd say, your daughter
playing that wedding to force your hand to make you retire.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
You know. And she's she has been the absolute biggest
supporter and big fan. I mean, she's it's ridiculous how
dedicated she is of a fan. Even when my wife
couldn't go to game, my daughter would drive by herself
and keep me in the stand. And so you know,
this is her time and we're going to make sure
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it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, man, I hope you guys have a great wedding
and he congratulations, man, you have absolutely killed Kentucky high
school football. I'm glad what Chuck said about as a
player and assistant and a head coach and that that's
got to be an extremely short list. That's very impressive,
Very rob.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Brian, Is there any is there any consideration about joining
the Chalk Brothers up there in northern Kentucky?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
What with the old man?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Oh my god, No, no, that's all him. One funny story,
real quick is we were we went out to breakfast
yesterday morning and ran into Jared Lorenzo's dad and we
were talking and I was saying how my first coaching
job was nineteen ninety five, and deer was He said,
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you know you're gonna help coach freshman And then I said,
I'm want to help with Barthy as much as I can.
And they said, okay, cool is there. Here's your quarterback
and here's your tight end. And it was Jared Lorenzen.
It was a quarterback and Derrick Smith was the tight end.
I didn't know who they were, so we just lined
up and we're scoring fifteen points a game, and I'm thinking,
this coaching thing is the easiest thing. I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That's a great.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I mean to walk in your first shot at a
freshman coach have Jerry Lorenzo. It was a farsity caliber
quarterbacks pressman football.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It was.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
It was a cool experience.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That's pretty cool. That's that's a neat story. That's cool.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Thank you, Brian. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Brian, You've been super thanks for doing this. We appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I really appreciate it. I appreciate listening to all these
podcasts and it's a great thing for high school football.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Appreciate you, Thank you, Good luck to you.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right, Well, David, Now, Brian made me feel bad
with his wife.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I know, I'm like, I feel like I'm a bad
husband now in multiple marriages, not just my own, you know,
like Lee, and you're right there with me, big boy,
don't you mean me?
Speaker 4 (28:20):
These coaches wives are good women. They are.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah. We can't we really we really can't. Yeah, I
mean they are. They are special people, they really are
they Yeah, yeah, I mean yes, Hey.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
David, we're going to go to the next phase segment
of the show. And that is of course our tough
copy and it's from Dave Burntworth. Is that right?
Speaker 1 (28:50):
The just correct?
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah, And the question is what can coaches do to
get numbers upsides besides.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Baby Yeah, yeah, well, uh, hey, I'll go first. Uh
And this really, this one goes back to my dad
and it was very simple, and I think it's simple,
but I still think it's the best one. And he
said this, he said, the best, the best way to
get your numbers up. He said, treat the kids you've got,
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treat them well, and if you treat them well, they're
going to recruit other kids for you. He says that,
and that was really the end of the story for him.
And I think that's most important. But I don't. I
don't think that can just be it anymore. And uh,
you know one thing I copied off of you is
the youth camps. You know, we do a Friday night camp.
We're doing camps in during school with all the fifth graders,
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and then we also do a morning camp with the
sixth graders, so we go to them to the school.
It's a very short camp and I'm not going to
get into all the details on all of it, but
youth camps, we do a recruit night, which we make
like a college program, have have recruits come to a
college basketball game. We'll feed them, they'll meet our coaches
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and all that. And that's copied off of the way
that colleges would do recruiting back in the day with
official visits. I think social media can help be visible
and active in your high school. Attend extracurricular activities, be
supportive of multi sport athletes if that's a big one,
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and then you'll get a kick out of this. I mean,
this is where we are in twenty twenty five. Find
a reason to write a handwritten note to their house today.
I had no idea what I was going to do
this today, but I met somebody. I won't go into
the whole thing. To make a long story short, I
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wrote a note to a fourth grader today and send
it to his house that I've never met before. But
if people think, well, that's crazy, but it's like I
just I think there's I think he got to do
some things that others will think of extreme or you know,
not necessary, But I think it's I think it takes
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a lot of hard work. And then the flip side
of it is, though you know, our numbers have been up.
We got up over seventy five at Mercer my last
three years in A three A school we had seventy
and you know, we don't bave in. We don't we
don't kiss their tails. We hold them accountable, but we
try to make all the other things around it make
it attractive so that they want to be part of
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our program. And I do think this. I wish i'd
put this in here, but I still think Friday night
high school football is one of the best things in
small town America. And I think you've got to work
really hard to make people aware of it because I
think I think we've got the best commodity for a
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young man that's there. I don't think there's anything better.
And I feel like if I can just help them
understand that, that's going to draw into the program. So
that's long or short, that's my antron. What do you think?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Well, of course, I agree with a lot of things
you said. I've probably done a lot of those things
that you said I did.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I didn't need them off for you recruit.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
But I've always believed that you have to work from
the ground up. That that was my philosophy and my belief. Uh,
you know, this is the foundation of your program. So
I would start really young. I always thought it was
really difficult to recruit high school kids. I thought that
was tough. But as far as when I got into
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you know, trying to build my numbers, trying to build
my program, I started from the ground up. I started
the young kids, with the with the uh uh you know,
youth camps and uh. I even wrote you know, letters
to some middle school kids before uh. I mean, I
tried all of those things as well, and I think
they paid off. I really do. I think it was
good stuff. As far as recruiting high school kids, I
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only recruited, you know, like select active ones in the
high school the ones that I thought that and that
we thought as a staff could help us win, those
were the ones that I tried to recruit. I think that,
you know, you got to be careful, you know, recruiting
high school kids to get your numbers up. I really think.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
So.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
You know, if you if you get the wrong kids
and they joined for the wrong reasons, they joined because
you talked them into it, not because they really wanted
to play, then I think they can probably do more
damage to your program than good. So I didn't never
I didn't spend a lot of time recruiting high school
kids unless it was a kid that was athletic that
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I thought could come out and help us right away.
And I would I would. I would go all in
on it if I thought there were somebody there, and
I would recruit them hard. But basically, you know, that's
that's that's how I did it. And if you do
recruit from the ground up, you're usually always going to
have good number, you know, and make sure you have
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a good school coach, uh that keeps kids out, and
make sure you have a good freshman JV coach that
keeps kids out. And I think that's how you keep
your numbers up.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You know. I'll try to track it, like I'll make
a list of the high school kids we tried to
recruit when I went to each new place and all
that kind of stuff, and UH, at Mason and Mercer,
I thought we got one or two new high school
kids out that really helped us. And and Anderson, I
tell you what we it almost all of the influx
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and improven in numbers has come from from the eighth
graders to the freshman and on a I mean almost
all of it. It's just it just has not it
hasn't been the same, and it's been tough, but I
sort of figured out, you know, it's it's pretty much
probably decided by the time they're a freshmen at Anderson
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County already made. Yeah they have yeah, Yeah, so hey
that and that's fine. I wish those guys the best.
I don't know, I tell you what. One of the
things I guess I changed a little bit on is
and I sort of blame you and my dad and
Coach Frinch's. You know, I used to have a mindset
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that I thought we could take about anybody and make
them a football player. I don't think that as much
as I used to. I don't. Maybe it's because now
I'm playing against better people and so I know it's
gonna be tougher. But you know, used to, I mean,
part of was ego, part of me being stubborn. I
think I can take that guy and I can make
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him a football player. And I don't think that as
much as I used to. I just have the right
to play football. You're gonna have the right mentality. Yeah,
And maybe that's it, because I don't think there's as
much of that mindset in twenty twenty five as there
was when my dad's was at Boyle and Mercer and
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you and coach French and our mindset is not does
not prevail like the old days. It just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Hey, David, let's go into the last segment, which is
where we pick state finalists. But first, let's recap last week. Okay,
all right, you hit nine out of eleven. Last week,
you hit ten out of eleven. This past week, you
hit nine out of eleven.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Anybody, So what were the two I missed? I don't
even remember now.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Oh, I don't remember either. I don't remember it. I
can look it up, but I don't want to know.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Well, I know one was I missed Scott County beaton Woodford. One.
I missed that one. Don't worry about it, that's all right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But anyway, you've hit twenty out of twenty three for
the year so far in the playoffs. Wow, all right,
that's pretty impressive. Uh I hit last week, I hit
eight out of eleven, so I wasn't too far there,
you go that we ago that I was less than
fifty percent. And so for the year, I've got fifteen
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out of twenty three so far. I've gotten up over by.
But uh now, let's get into uh this week's and
this is the uh. This is the semi finals. This
is this is you know, the uh, the right to
go to the big show. You know, yes, sir, we'll
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start with one A. Okay, first first game up is
Pipeful and Raceling. For God's sakes, this is every year.
It's they're either playing for the state championship or the
semi finals. Pipeful and Raceling. Every year. It's just a
common it's just a common occurrence. Ye, Pipeful, you're taking
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Pipeful now?
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yep? You know.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Pipeful's had a kind of a down year to to
their standards. I know they're in the semi finals, but
usually they need by hundred points. I think I'm gonna
go with Racelin.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
There you go, all right?
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Campbellsville and k c D. I think they play yeah
one earlier in the year. Boy, you're pretty close.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
You're not.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Fire tonight.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, Well, we're.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Not going to agree because I'm going with Campbellsville. I
think Campbell you can't be a good team.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Twice like that, I got you, all right, won the
first one Campbellsville.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Really No, I don't wrong moment, I don't think so.
How about two A? How about Beachwood and Owensboro Catholic.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Let's go Beachwood.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know how anybody's gonna beat
those guys. They just they just don't like about there.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, I'm going to Beachwood too.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
How about Belfree and l c A l.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
C A l c A Yep.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
And that's that LCA too. I tell you, I just
think there's some magic going on at Belfrey. I really do.
I know it's gonna be hard. I think l c
A is probably the heavy favorite. But you know what,
I think I am going to go with Belfrey in
this game.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Three A David and we got Bell County who's always there.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
And Cal.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
I mean dal Oh, somebody's gonna have to get close
to beating them before you can pick against Cal. You
know they're going for the four P. I don't see
anybody beating myself. How about Murray and Lloyd Memorial?
Speaker 1 (39:47):
All right, now, you may get me slow down on
that one. Is that I think it's at Murray, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
No, it's at Lloyd. That's along time.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Lloyd GUYSH Well, I tell you what I'm going to
go back to. I'm going to bring up a bad
memory He's come to Mercer County in eighty six. I
think they're both really good. I do, But I think
I'm gonna go with Murray. I think Murray's going to give.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Him well, I thought for sure you'd go with and
Murray got some magic going on.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
They do.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
But I'm I'm going Floy I'm going Floyd.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Well, hey, that's a I had a lot of good
nights up there, a lot of good memories in November.
I mean, I can see him, I can see him
doing it. I can right.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Four A, You've got Corbin and Boyle. That's become a
good rivalry. Yes, Boyle, I'm gonna go with Boyle as well.
Corbyn just hadn't been consistent enough. Corby's got some good players,
but they just hadn't been as consistent this year as
I think they have been in the past. How about
(40:56):
Paduca Tilman and Franklin Franklin County. Really, Yeah, you're surprising.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Me a little bit.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
That's who I'm going with too, is Franklin. But you're
kind of surprising me with your picks tonight. You're kind
of pulling me off a little bit.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Here.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
Uh, let's go, let's go to.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Five going you off because I'm not telling you five
stories for every game we're picking. I'm trying to keep
a lid on it.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Fire sold me off.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yeah about five.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Let's go with Atherton and Pulaski County. Atherton, Well, I'm
gonna go with Pulaski. They gotta go to Pulaski. Yes,
you play that physical brand of ball, it might pay off.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Uh yeah, I mean here's the thing. Every game you've
got up here, I mean, yeah, they're they're both good.
They're they're not good there. It wouldn't be in the
semi finals.
Speaker 4 (41:51):
They wouldn't be in the semi finals. Everybody's good.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Let's go with Woodford, your your district and Borough Woodford,
I figured you'd picked that one. I want to go
with Orangsboro. That running back is the real deal. I
mean i'd give times. I'd give it to him forty
times in this game.
Speaker 5 (42:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Well, I mean, though, I will tell you this, though
I know Hampton's really good, but one of the best
d linemen I've seen in a long time. Guys, I'm
gonna have to look up his name. Uh, big number
eighty eight for Woodford County. He is really good. He
(42:42):
is really good. He he can he can shoot a
gap and pick a side and get there, or he
can attack you head up and squeeze and cross face.
I think I think eighty eight. I want, I want.
Since I brought his name up, I'm on, I'm gonna
try to right up his number. Uh let's see here,
(43:05):
tag on it. Dude, I can't even find it here now,
but uh.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
You can look for it. And uh, David at six's
a and there's a conflict of interest. So we're not
going to pick in in six.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I don't want to, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
I don't want to do that either, and uh, you know,
but they've got some good games. We've got Rile in
South Yorick and we got say next in Trendity two
really uh not, all four of them are really nice team.
So uh that'll be an interesting the way that turns out.
But we won't pick those because I do have a
(43:41):
little bit of a conflict of interest there.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Absolutely. Yeah, as friends, I want to say good luck
to you guys. Hey, number eighty eight. Name from Woodford
County that I think is crazy good. His name is
Josiam McKee. But I think he I think he's really good.
I mean, I he litt if I ways say he's
the best player I saw season, but he's in the conversation.
(44:06):
He's really a good player. Hey, lucky me. I think
he's only a junior. How great is that I get
to see him next year?
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Yeah, yep, well he uh, he's gonna have his hands
full of this week. That yeah, flying up in there.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Well and then a the Woodford quarterback. Uh. During COVID,
I couldn't do my quarterback workouts because of khes double eight,
but Trish for could and Fights Combs would come to
our neighborhood at seven am so we wouldn't get busted
by the governor, and they do workouts. Hey, Fights would
(44:45):
drop the ball. Frostford took a pool noodle and tied
it around fights His mid section, so Fights would have
to keep the ball up here. Anyway, Fights is the
quarterback at Woodford County, and we're really proud of him,
and he's doing a good job. I got to see firsthand.
Those guys are good.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Hey, David, what do you got for us for next week?
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Well, I tell you what. Right now, it's a little
bit up in the air. Uh, We're gonna sort of
see maybe how these games play out. Uh, sort of
doing a little digging. May look at some coaches with
some state championship uh background, maybe bring them in even
our I tell you what our tough topic is really
up in the air right now too. So hey, if
(45:29):
listeners through social media or email want to send us
a tough topic, they send that to us. Uh things,
but yeah, things right now are uh you know, they're
pretty fluid. And they're fluid because we want to do
a great job for our listeners. So that's why we're fluid.
And uh, it's just like coaching on Friday night. You
(45:51):
gotta be able to adjust. And we're gonna have to
do some adjusting Saturday and figure out what the best
way is if if we don't pull the trigger before
Saturday and pick another guest. But hey again, social media, email,
put it on Bluegrass Preps. You got suggestions, whether it's
for a coach or a tough topic, they send it
(46:12):
to us, and hey, we'll go from there.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
Sounds exciting, Kate, Wait, thank you all for being I'll
see We'll see you next week.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
On Thanksgiving Day, November twenty fifth, nineteen forty eight, Wave
TV in Louisville broadcast the state's first sports event. It
was the annual mail manual football game. That day, it
was a manual fourteen to nothing victory. Join us next
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