November 12, 2025 • 48 mins
The coaches welcome Lexington Catholic Coach David Clark
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Coach David Buchanan.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Coach Chuck Smith, two legendary high school football coaches. This
is the Coach's Office, a behind the scenes look at
Kentucky High school football.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's Coaches Office trivia time. Name the schools that no
longer exist that have won a KHSAA state football title.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Welcome to the Coach's Office Behind the Scenes with Chuck
Smith David Buchanan. This is season four, Episode thirteen. Wow
and then I'm Chuck Smith. I'm joined by co host
David Buchanan and podcast editor storyteller Mike Yoakum. Our YouTube
version of this podcast is at at teacop and if
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you would hit like and subscribe when you get on
that or access that, we would really appreciate it. Our
guest coach tonight is Lexington Catholics David Clark. It's his
first year there. You know, David spent most of his
career at Barkstown High School, but boy, he's gone the
Lexington Catholic and he's got them hitting on all cylinders
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and they're looking really strong at some real impressive wins
so far this year. We're gonna bring David on in
just a second. Our tough topic for tonight that David
and I will address will be, uh, what is the
role of the parent in your football program? And that'll
that'll be an interesting, interesting question and some interesting comments
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from David. Knot games of the week. We will take
two games out of each class and we will look
at those games and predict, predict who we think will
win those games.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Uh So then come, hey, since we're both old, I
know we're both gonna have like five stories on every
team in the playoffs? Are we gonna get to tell
all five stories? Or if I got to keep it
to one? Or how's that going to go?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Now?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
They're gonna be sure it'd be a rapid fire type
of thing, but you can.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You know, rapping fire. All right, keep going?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
All right, Let's talk a little bit about David before
we bring you on. Okay, Now, David Clark is the
head football coach of Lexton Catholic High School. He's the
nineteen he is a nineteen ninety six Center College grad
and uh he played for the legendary Joe McDaniel and
he spent twenty seven years at Markstown High School, seventeen
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as the head football coach from two thousand and seven
to twenty twenty three, he was the head football coach.
Prior to that, he was an assistant coach. As a
head coach, he's had a three A regional championship, a
state runner up finish in twenty twenty two. He has
had like four state semi final games. He's had two
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undefeated regular seasons. He has over one hundred and thirty
or about one hundred and thirty one wins as a
head football coach. I don't think that's count Lexton Catholic,
but one hundred and thirty one wins as a head
football coach as an assistant. Then he won with Joey Downs.
He was assistant to Joey Downs. They won the two
thousand and one state championship. And then he retired after
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the twenty twenty three season, and then he took over
for Lexington Catholic in the twenty twenty five season. He's
currently got Lexington Catholic at nine and two going into
the second round off to a strong start. I personally
worked with David for a year. Man, what a great
outstanding football coach is and a great person as well.
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But I truly appreciate how he treated me over that
one year David. You want to bring David on?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yes, I do, and uh and we can go off
on so many tangents of center college. David was actually
a good quarterback. I was down there on the scout team.
But David, I think of all the things that may
mean the most. Man, that one year I didn't have
a team and it was rough. You let me come
down and talk to your team on one Friday at once,
and man, I had a blast. That was really cool.
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So thanks for helping a unemployed football coach out there
for a week.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was good. Thanks for joining us tonight. We're really
glad to have you.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Thanks for having me, guys, yep.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Uh, Well, David, I'll started off right here. Look you
you were, you were twenty seven years at high school. Uh,
then you come after a year off, you come back
and then you come back into the same district and
go to Lexington Catholic. So therefore that meant that you
had to line up on the opposite sideline from the
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program that you spent twenty seven years at. You know,
how can you you know you know what what what
what did you what was your faults?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You know?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
What what did you think about all that?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
I was actually at Barstown for twenty eight, I did
a bonus year. I had one more after twenty seven.
I did one more for twenty eight. Then the other
irony of it is is I'm the one who petitioned
to move us over into Lexting Catholics District back when
they realigned. Uh so, so I didn't know I was
setting myself up there.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
But football football, you know, the kids are the kids.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
So once once I got to the game, it was
just football, you know, and that it just takes over.
And you guys, know how that is the hard part
is just the relationship part of it. Seeing those guys
across and heck, most of the guys that are coaching
over there, I coached And if you're forty five or younger,
I taught you over there. So you know, seeing everybody
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that that I had a personal relationship, that that was
the tough part. And and you know the junior and
senior class, those were kids that came through our program
all the way from you know, yeah, they were little
tigers all the way through, So you know, I had
a lot of personal relationships there, so that that part
was was tough.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Did you uh what was well before the game I
guess it was all you know, lovey dovey and shaking
hands and and uh telling old stories. But then after
the game, you all kind of put it on barks down.
Kind of pretty good, wasn't it.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Well, you know, one of the things that made my
situation unique was is that I retired, so I was
their old coach. Anyways, it wasn't like I left the program.
So it was really good to see those kids. And
after the game, it was so good to give them
hugs and just tell them how proud of them I
was watching them growing up. And same thing with the
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coaching staff. So so it was it was a good
bookend to a night for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, did you it was still? Was you real nervous
or anything like that, like before the game or anything
like that? Was you you? You seem to be uh,
you know, okay with it. I mean you didn't you
didn't have any uh uh you know, like I don't
know if I would have lined up against Boyle County
after you know, like a year or so, I would
have really, I don't know. I don't know what I
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would have thought. I guess That's why I'm asking you.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yeah, And I think it comes back to what I
said first, is like, once you get in between those lines,
it's football. And you know, football is football no matter
who it is. You, you're playing a game and you're
you're strategizing, and you're trying to you know, you're trying
to reach your goals. So once once that part of
it started, everything else, that's all that's all you think about.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Hey, uh, David, tell us about your experience playing for
coach Joe McDaniel at Center and how that's impacted you
as a high school football coach.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Bro I will elaborate on that a little bit.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Is not only did I play for Joe McDaniel, but
I got the I got the honor to play for
Dan Haley in high school, which is a legendary coach
and and both of those men had had a lot
of impact on me as a person in and on
my coaching style.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Coach Haley he taught me how that.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
You could be tough and very demanding at the same time,
I show you that you care about him, and I
think that was very very important.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Coach McDonel showed me, showed me how to prepare.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
He was also very demanding, but you know, coach McDaniel
did it in a way that he treated you like
a man.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
He treated everybody like a man, and he.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Never I don't know if I heard him raise his
voice very often and you never heard him you never
heard him say across or a curse word.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Yeah, he just he just really treated you professionally at
that age.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
And that's something that I've really tried to continue on
and carry over to the kids, is.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Coach them hard. But at the same time, I'm truting, like, man, I.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Got he's come up a lot on this show. He
has he's he's really and I'm betting before through recruiting,
I really liked him a lot. He was he was
what everybody says he is and just agreed.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Coach Haley coach Yeah, okay, yeah, I thought he's come
up a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I mean other coaches have mentioned him on here and
he's done a good He was really a good guy. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
You know my dad, my dad said Dan Haley was
the best offensive line coach in the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
For what it's worth. That was that was fifty years ago.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yeah, he taught me how to run the beer and
that those principles are some of the principles that still
you is the three. You know, we ran the option
and it didn't matter what you were going to line
up in. By god, we were going to run it
every now and then we got crazy and we go
we go to receivers instead of one. But about as
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will as we got.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hey, David, you said most of your career coaching and
teaching in public schools. Now you're over at a private
school like Lexington Catholic. How would you describe the difference
in the kids, their mindsets, their attitude, even their approach
to the game.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well, I think one of the things is, like I
said before, is football is football. Kids are kids no
matter where you go. Those things aren't going to change.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
The biggest difference that I have learned that I not
necessarily understood until I was a part of it is
people that are in private education are there by choice,
and by being there by choice, you you coach them differently.
You can because they're there because they want to be.
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You know, in public education, not everybody's there because they
want to be. Now and they're grabbing a hold of
football and you're using football as a tool to help
them for their educational purposes. Here's not that's not the
same case, you know, so when somebody's there because they
want to be, you can approach the game a lot differently.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, that's interesting, But that's an interesting and a good answer.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, that is a good answer.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Hey, to talk a little bit now more about the
football piece of it. You know, you talked about I
mean your background with coach Hayley and the coach McDaniel
and then being a head coach and then before that
with Joey Dawns. So I'm going to try to narrow
it down a little bit. In the past five years,
what are changes you've made, either schematically or in the
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way that you run your program that you believe have
led to increase success on the field. What are some
adjustments you make, and specifically one I'd like to hear
about which I would think is a fairly new adjustment.
I mean, I hear a lot of talk about your
three safety defense and how effective it is and how
good it is at disguising coverages. So Hey, sort of
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tell us what are some things you've done differently here
recently that you think have helped you well.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think to.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Kind of work backwards on that.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
I think the key is to have uncompromising fundamental principles
that you have that you are not going to change,
and then you build your program based upon those principles
that there are things that we're not going to compromise on.
So we lay that foundation, and then all that other
stuff can change, like how you do your weight program,
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what scheme you're going to run, all that other kind
of stuff. You got to go with the flow. But
the things that we stand for, those things are uncompromising.
We're not going to get away from those. But you know,
when we started looking at what type of system that
we were going to run, we knew we had some
good defensive players. We knew we had some unique, uh
defensive players with our defensive line that were fast, strong
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and athletic. So we we built a system playing you know,
it's it's a form of a three five, but we
we our secondary is a major major part of what
we do. We've built that. We built that around those
three big guys that can be able to control the box.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
So you called it a three five, you say it's
a three five, It's not a three three five.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know what you
want to call it. Uh, you know, that's we're gonna
we're gonna play. We're gonna it's gonna look like a
three three five some Yeah, we're gonna play. We're gonna
play a lot of different coverages. We're gonna show you
different coverages. We're gonna you know, have it's you know
the three. The three defense is gonna be a lot
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of stunt type defense anyways, and so you know, that's
what you're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
And you're just gonna get a lot of multiple looks
from from what we do. And that's that's kind of
what we tried to do, is get as many multiple
looks as we can for the defense, to for the
offenses to have, you know, create mismatches and problems for them.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, I got cool. I say they're doing a great
job on defense. You've only given up eighty nine points
for the entire year. That's one of the top defense
in the state. I mean, yeah, are you what do
you doing, David? Are you doing the offense or defense?
Are you just being the head?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Yeah, I'm doing the offense.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
The defensive coordinator is Dave Nernberg, and he ran this
system a couple of years ago for a Lexton Catholic
and we actually played him in a scrimmage and I
loved what he did.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
And so when I came on and he was actually
on the offensive.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Side of the ball, and I said, I would like
for you to go back to the defense and run
the defense that you had.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
I really like what you do.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
And so he does an unbelievable job with it, and
he understands the kids in his schemes and he gets
the kids in the right spots.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
What's really helpful too. And I don't know, I don't
know if you I don't think if you separated as
private and public. But uh, I know at private schools,
a lot of times you get a lot of smart
kids and you can do a whole lot when you've
got that uh you know understand uh you know football
and why you're doing what you're doing, and you can
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you can make a lot more adjustments, uh and and
and checks and things like that. So you know, I
think that always seems to fit. Private school is pretty good.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Well.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Being able to run run a system with your kids
that that understand it is very very important.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Some of the other things.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
That that that help is when you have numbers and
you're only asking them to learn one side of the ball.
You can do more of that way too, so you know,
we don't have as many kids playing both both ways
in which allows us to be a little bit more
complex on on the other side of the ball when
they're only when they're only.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Having this one spot, one you know, one petition.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I always knew that when I was at Boyle and
I had a smart kids, I knew we were going
to go far. And it's the truth. I mean, it
really is. It's a game of you know, when you
get to this start getting to the second, third, and
fourth levels, the smart ones are the ones who start
separating themselves from everybody else.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
My opinion, uh, know what to knowing what to do
when you know you have a really good team is
you have players that know what to do, and then
you have players that understand why you do what you do.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Okay, David, My last question for you here is uh
some of some people in it comes up a lot
on the show. That's why I want to ask, is
uh some of the people feel that private schools should
have their own division and be separate from public schools.
Now that you've done been on both sides, you know,
what's your what's your opinion of that.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Well, if you all remember back in the day, you
all aren't much older than I am. We voted on this,
well whatever year that was, early two thousands, we voted,
and I voted to separate them. I was on the
side of the public school and I thought that the
private schools should be separate.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But as time has gone on, and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Not interruption, but that that past.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
It passed, the state legislature said no, no. When KDU
got involved in that knocked that sucker out. I don't
know if any other I don't know of any other
delegation rule that that they have overturned. That's only what
I remember in my time in for twenty some years.
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But yeah, they knocked that one down. But as time
has gone on, what we've seen is I think two
major factors have changed my opinion on it. One is
you see kids that are transferring going public with the
public at a high rate. You are not seeing very
many kids that are being denied transfers anymore. Just from
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my own experience, I didn't see it very often. The
other thing that that I thought that the private schools
had a competitive edge on the public schools was of facilities.
And since COVID. That is not the case. You know,
you see these public schools that are that are building
these beautiful facilities, and they have the same resources that
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the private schools. In some cases they have more resources
than the private schools. So you know, they're able, they're
able to I think, I think the playing field is
a whole lot more even than what it was twenty
years ago, by far. And you know, the delegation just
passed the what the one transfer rule this past September,
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so you know, things are landscape is going to change
even more depending upon whether how all that shakes out.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with what you say. There's only
there's only two exceptions to those comparisons, and they are unity. Yeah,
that's the only two uh you know exceptions to that
they they have. Well that's a whole nother subject. We'll
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get into that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Anyway, Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, I really like
what he said. And again I go back to what
Marvid Danceler shared with us. You know, I don't think
it's public private anymore. I think it's more select versus
non select. If you're going to go down that road,
because you know, as David said, there's there's as much,
if not more transfers flowing into the public schools as
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are the private now, and it's very different, very different
from say, as you said, twenty years ago when they
were voting on that.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So I appreciated David, you've been You've been a wonderful guest,
and uh, good luck this week.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
How do you prepare prepare for Central? They've changed coaches?
What's that been like?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Well, we we've prepared for him just based upon what
we've seen them on film, you know, and preparing for
them the same way. Now if they decided to do
something different, then we'll find out. But you know, uh, Lonnie,
all of them has been around for a long time.
He's been in the game for a really long time
so and he's been their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
So we think we have a pretty good idea of
what they plan to do, unless unless they just decided
to change everything. But the past two games they've been
they've been pretty consistent what they've been doing all season.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So thank got you, lucky lucky.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Thanks guys, really enjoying David.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We're going to our next segment of the podcast, and
of course that's the tough topic and it's really it's
off the Bluegrass Preps again. Bluegrass Preps has been good
to us with these uh, with these questions. This is
pretty red cat. That what it is? A al cat.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, I don't know if it's atl Cat or Atlanta Cat.
I can't tell which it is. But anyway, he's a
pretty prominent member on Bluegrass Preps and I usually enjoy
his content.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah. Well, the question is what is the role of
the parent in the football program? And of course I've
been out of it for a few years, but as
a head coach and you right in the middle of
all of.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
It here, Well, I go back to something you told
me a long time ago, and you you told me said,
people are going to especially when you're having success, people
will want to have a role in your program, and
if you don't give them a role, they're going to
find one. So I took that to heart, and we
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actually having our our player when we meet in May
with our players and parents, we have a page called
role of parents and supporting their son is a football player.
We've got eleven things listed and it's about encouraging him
to take care of his body, to do his best,
encourage your son to put the team first. That's not normal.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
You know. I put this in here. I hope this
isn't too ub notaious.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I say, you know, if I showed up at your
work to tell you how to do your job, you're
gonna think I'm crazy you walk into me. I'm gonna
be nice because I understand that your son, but I'm
thinking the same thing. So you know, we'll handle the
playing time. But then I also say this, if it's
something not to do with playing time that's bothering your son,
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I need to know about that. I want to know
about it if he needs help or there's something wrong.
We talk about helping out with concession stand boosters. I
had to throw this one in. I'm not very proud
of this, but I put it in there. But one
fall I had a college coach tell me that going forward,
when they recruit a play they were going to ask
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about the parents.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And I hate to.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Tell you this, it was one of my guys. He
went as a college football player and his dad alienated
himself from that college football staff and they could not
stand him, and they said, from here on out, we're
gonna ask about that. And so I always tell people
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on stuff, whether it's you know, character evaluation, parents, all that.
I say, Look, I said, I'm gonna tell the truth.
I said, I'm gonna try not to say bad stuff,
but I am going to tell the truth, because then
I don't have any I have no credibility if I
lie for you. And I even tell him this, say, look,
if you've got negative thoughts about the staff, you're better
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off to keep it to yourself, because it's gonna be
hard for your son to practice and play hard if
he's not real sure that the coaches do what they're doing.
So something else I had, I say, you know, being
to practice on time, your gear, all that, that's your
son's responsibility and we're gonna hold him accountable for it.
But man, if you can help him get all those
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pieces right, we'll take the help.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And you know, we had.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
A young man he was late for a Wednesday morning
practice and he said, well, it's my dad's fault.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
My dad didn't wake up.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I said, well, I said that might have been how
you all worked it out, But I said no, I said,
this is your fault.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I said, it's your job to get up and come
to practice. Is now it's my dad?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I said, no, it's not your dad's job to get
your practice, that's your job and stuff like that. But anyway,
I really stole that from you and I give that
to him in May, and I think it's helped. I mean,
I'll say this in thirty three years, Harris Mason Mercer
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now Anderson, I mean, I would say that probably ninety
eight percent of the parents have been super They have
been great. And I think there's two things for the coach.
I know he didn't ask what the coaches role. I
think there's two things that are really important. You got
to be fair and you got to communicate. And I
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think if you're the head coach, if you're fair and
you communicate most of the time, things will work out. Now,
if you're not fair or if you don't communicate, I
think you're gonna have some problems. And even looking back
on some times, like if a guy was removed from
the team, all they'd be mad at me. I mean
they'd be furious, but over time they would sort of
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handle it because they knew at the heart of the matter, well,
he's not using my kid to win. He helped us
son accountable because he wants him to be a better person.
So that sort of goes back to that communication piece again.
I think I've been very fortunate at all four schools.
The parents have overwhelmingly been supportive. They've been great, and
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I'm very thankful because I really don't like I've had
some of these horrible parents stories I hear people talk about.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I've been very thankful.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, I can see one hundred percent how you would
not have any problems with parents because you're so or you're.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Huh well, I wouldn't say I haven't had any I'd
had some.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Minimum minimum of mine because you're so organized and you're
so thorough, and I think that does have a whole
lot to do with it. Uh you know, and uh
you know. But my answer is I really believe to
run a championship program, it takes everybody being on the
same page. That's the parents along with the players, the administration,
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the community all play an important part. You know, you
can't you can't do it alone. You need all of
these people, you really do. You can't do without the
parents because the parents in today's football now are a
big part of, you know, the the image that's spread
out there of the football program. They are a big
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part of helping with the fundraising, uh, the organization of
you know everything, game day bank, what's everything. So you
need everybody in order to run a championship program. I
think as a head football coach, then you know you
need to get everybody on that same page. I think
that's kind of your job. It's it's your vision. So
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you've got to sell everybody on your vision. And then
uh then you kind of define their roles after you
sell them on your division or on their on your vision,
you know. And it all and I think a lot
of it starts with that mandatory meeting parent meeting that
you have.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I had won everyone to do that, and we have
a book we give to every family.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You've got to do that. You've got to go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I'm sorry, that's a that's a perfect example why you
had minimum Uh you know, trouble out of parents is
because of that book. You know, that organization and and
and I always at that man at that mandatory parent meeting,
then I always uh felled out everybody's you know, uh
you know kind of the the responsibility and the rules
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and you know, I went through all the rules that
I was gonna uh uh, you know, treat how it's
gonna treat their players, uh, what the rules they had
to follow. And I did it with the players and
the parents in there because I wanted them to see
how their kid was going to be coached and held accountable.
And then afterwards, you know, we always had you know, uh,
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you know, a meeting with the parents, a quarterback club meeting.
I think it really starts, uh to get this thing right.
It really starts with a great quarterback club president. And
I've been fortunate enough to have some great ones. I've
been fortunate enough to be around some great ones. You know,
that person can make your job and you are, your
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life so much easier if you have a good one,
and it can make it so much harder if you
don't have a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
And so that that is a key player in my opinion,
is to have a great quarterback club president because he
is really going to be or she is really going
to be the ones that are in charge of organizing
the parents and getting the parents. You don't have time
to do all that they're they're going to have to
do and that's going to be their responsibility. And I've
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had some great ones. I had Steve Cammy, uh was
one that was my Quarterback club president forever at Boyle County.
He was kind of like my my buddy gear of
uh you know, Friday night lights.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You know, he was.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Me and him became really good friends. You know, we
we did, uh we did a lot together and but
we were on the same page. We knew what it
was going to take. And and he did a great
job of rallying the parents and getting parent involvement and
and helping with fundraising and it was really good. Then
my last one there was Lordy Ann Clark. And what
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a super lady she is. I mean, she was a
wonderful lady. She she was such a hard worker, a
good organizer, uh, you know, kept the parents involved, and
she had the personality to do it and just a
super lady. And I know that Brandon has got one
now and uh his name is Jeff Reynolds, and I
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mean he has taken it to a whole new level.
I mean with as far as communication, organization, you know,
getting the parents to participate. I mean, if there was
a Hall of Fame for quarterback club presidents, Jeff Reynolds
would be the president of it. He's that he's that
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he had a whole new level with it. He's very,
very good. But I'm telling you it takes a good
president to help you get all of this organized. You
can't do it by yourself if you're doing that and
you're not coaching, and uh so you know you got
you've got to have one of those.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Hey, this was one time that it was a negative
that it turned out good. We're struggling, and so my
quarterback club president is calling me. They're not bad, but
they're conveying negative messages repeatedly. And so finally I said, hey,
I tell you what I got an idea. You tell
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all these people complaining that if they've got a problem,
they need to come and see me. And you're tired
of being the middleman. And guess how many times I
got a phone after that there is a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It was. It was all right after that.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
So I was glad I could help our president out
and not have to filter out so many bad messages.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
But againwhelmingly they've been good. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I never had to deal with that negativity because my
president took care of it before it ever got to me.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, and that's when you know you got a good one.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Amen. Amen, I agree. That's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah. I had one of those seats too, David, that
I would give out to the parents and it would
forgot where I got it from, and I know I
probably got it somewhere, but it was like, you know,
how you how you should handle your son when he
comes home and he's complaining about the coach. It was, Oh,
it was really really good and it uh it kind
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of have the parents out that guide him along the way,
you know, and and tech them, you know, things how
to handle those situations.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Well, you know, one of the reasons that I wanted
my sons to play football, and you know, you had this.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
With your children.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You know, our kids, for the most part, they're pretty
well behaved. They do their school work, they've got decent manners,
and was the only yeah, well, but football was one
of the few places that he would tell him, May
you got to do a lot better than that.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
May you got to give a better effort. You know.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
They they got a level of criticism and accountability at
football that other than for me and their mom, they
didn't get anywhere else. All they got everywhere else was
how wonderful they are. Well, they came to football practice,
they didn't hear about how wonderful they were all the time,
you know, and they needed that. They needed somebody to
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get it again, do it in a constructive way, positive,
not cursing them or any of that. But they needed
somebody that would say, you know what, I think they're
the better level for you here, and we're going to
work till we get it. And I Drew plaid you
about you know, how to handle your son when he's
having a tough time to practice. Man, my sons needed that,
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and I think it really helped them a lot as
adults that you know, they had to go through that fire.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It was good for him, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
And Brandan had to go through too. It was good.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, that's the of itself.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
They would take out on him what they wanted to
do to me when I was hollering at him.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah when he was young.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
When he's older, they wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Anyway, you want to get on to the next segment.
And that is the the kind of the rapid fire
second round games.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
But we did.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
We chose, you know, really two games from each class.
So there's twelve game, twelve games on here. Actually six
games twelve teams that we want to look at and
and give our opinion on what we think. We won't
spend a lot of time talking about him. Going to
just give up a quick Do you want to tally these? David?
Do you want to keep record of these and add
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them to our uh season end ending?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
This is your baby, you whatever you want, you want
to add him to the tally, Let's add him.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I keep record of how you're doing. Yeah, hey, first
came up. The first two games up in one A
is Newport Central Catholic versus Bishop Brosart.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, I'm going New Cat.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Hey, I gotta have one quick story quick. My first
playoff game as a head coach was against Newport Catholic.
Mike Yegel from Beechwood. He told me, said, David, they're
gonna come out in all these paths. He said, They're
gonna look like they're all three fifty. Said, they're not
that big. So anyway, they come out of that tunnel,
I mean, it looks like we're playing LSU.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Those suckers are monsters. They are huge.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
So anyway, hey, we're playing them, and we're they kicked
our tails when we buy fined them a little bit man. Hey,
we're trying to attack and squeeze and all this kind
of stuff. Maybe my defensive tackle, Roddy Shadal he ruus
to the sideline. He says, Coach, that technique stopped working tonight.
I said, hey, we invented a technique right there that night.
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We called it paaris. That's when we start cutting the
legs on the old lineman. If we're having If we're
having he look, but anyway, I'm going to go with
new caf A.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Bob Schneider. I got one last real story he got
on me. We had played a fifty all year my
nose guard. I only had twenty seven kids. It's a
big kid.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
He wasn't very good, but we would make him submarine
on first down. Then we'd take him out and play
at four to four, just because I had to use
the bodies. Coach Snyder tells me that we ended up
beating him that night. That was ninety four, and he
told me that night he said, David, you took out
your nose guard. He said, you destroyed my game playing.
I said, Coach, I knew he couldn't play against you.
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There's no way I would have let him play against you.
And he just sort of shook his head like that.
But anyway, Hey, I got coach Snyder. He was already
for that nose guard. And I'm like that sucker. Can't
play against New Calf No way, all right, go ahead,
I'm not bad.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Hey, that's the lad of time on the story.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
They used to be a powerhouse.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
They were Frank Jacobs remember went to Notre Dame. Hey,
Eddie Eviston. Eddie Eveston from NEWCAF, a great player and
a great coach and a guest on our podcast.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
All right, next Holy Cross out of Louisville and KCD KCD,
I'm with you on both of those so far. And
then two A we got Dan Boy in Somerset. This
might be an interesting one.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I agree. I think Somerset's going to get them. The
Davills dangerous, So who you pick it? I'm picking Somerset. Hey,
and I wanted to add this too. David talked about
public school facilities. Somerset's about ready to build something phenomenal.
I think it's gonna have an indoor perf seventy yards long. Well,
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I've been told it's gonna be the third vegas facility
in Kentucky. UK is one, Louisville is two, Somerset is three,
but then's on the horizon. Yes, gonna be an indoor
and it's gonna be phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I'm picking Dan Boying that one.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I got.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
They're having a great year. I know they're going but
and I know it to be a tall task to
get that done. But you know, they they they they've
been impressive. Uh, listen to this one. Bracken County and
Breathitt County. In Bracken County up there were by Mason.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yes, yes it is. And I tell you what that's
Uh they this is a.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Whole new level for Bracken County to be in this
position that they're in.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Uh, that is a tough one. I'm gonna go Bracken.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Whoa, whoa, I'm gonna go Breathitt County. Hard not to Yeah,
how about three A? How about Louisville Central and Laxington Catholic.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I'm gonna go with Lexon Catholic.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I am too, but I'll tell you what. Uh and
and I'm I don't I'm not second gets to myself,
but I will compliment Central, little little Central has played
pretty good the last couple of games, haven't.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
They well, hey, what they They got Bargetown, which you
know I think you I think.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I think I picked Central and you picked Barstown.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I'm not for sure, but uh yeah, they they've done
a good job and uh uh I we always do
stuff with them in the summer. Louisville Central going back
to Marvin and Mercer County days. I'm crazy about Louisville Central.
I love their kids are super But I do think
Catholic right now is going to get them.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I do.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
How about rock Castle and Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Uh I think I'm gonna go Lawrence really yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, they're playing at Lawrence County. I'm gonna go with
I'm gonna go with Rockcastle.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's a good pick.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Hey, if you ever played a game at Lawrence County
never now, Yeah, I've been there a couple of times.
I like it, but I think it's a I think
it's a tough place to go win, but I like
Lawrence County. Hey, Billy Goldsmith, there's a name, Billy Goldsmith.
I love Billy Goldsmith.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Uh, all right, we're going into four A. How about Toby.
Oh my god, this is one of the top games.
This is Covington Catholic and Johnson Central.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, and it's that it's that I would have given
the edge. It's I would have given the edge to
cub Cast.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
But at Johnson Central, I'm like, I think I'm still
gonna go with cub Casts. I think they're both, they're
both great teams. I really like this quarterback at cub Cast.
I think he's really good. And uh, I tell you
what if that cat and the bunch can roll in
and win at Bull County last year with the talent
they had, I think they can get it done here too.
I just that that was an insane win last year.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And I'm going with Johnson Central. I think I got it. Franklin,
how about this one, Franklin Simpson, Simpson and Padukah Tillman.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
That's a tough one because Wilman's been struggling now, how
like Tillman struggled our old boy William Harris at Taylor
County was the DC last week. That made it tough
on that Tilman offense. And you sort of know how
it goes. If somebody sees a blueprint on how to
defend a team, people start typing that blueprint. So I
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can see Franklin Simpson taking a lot of pieces of
Williams game plan to try to slow down Tillman. But
I sort of think I sort of still think Tilman's
going to be better and Tillman's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
That's who I'm picking as well, and they have been struggling.
That kind of concerns me a little bit.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
They get better the beer the game gets, they get better.
It's just as it started to click yet, But the
closer they get to December, they're play better.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
I don't wonder if I had any injury or anything,
because they have been really off. Either that or some
chemistry problems, I don't know. But on way five, let's
look look at here's another really good game Scott County
and Cooper.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Hey, you talk about how good our district is.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
South oldhom came in fourth and Cooper beat him two touchdowns,
and a lot of people think Cooper's gonna win it.
It's a dog on good district. I'm gonna go with
Scott County on this one, though. I think I think
the Cardinals will win. Uh, I just I think I
think Scott County is playing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Every time I picked Scott County, they lose, So I
want to pick.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Cooper, I got you, Jim will say thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Then Butler and Fardale.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Man, I tell you, if there's two that sort of
come out of nowhere, Faradale has really turned out to
be much better than what anybody anticipated. I think that's
a tough one to pick too. Uh. I think I'm
gonna go Fardale on this one.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
That's that's who I'm going with. David is Fardale.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
And then uh sixth a, we got Henderson and my kracking.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Eric. See.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I think every time I pick Henderson they win. Mojoe
Hollowell do you remember that name?
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Mojoe man he he was a heck of a coach.
Then went to Orangsboro Catholic. I believe that was it.
But yeah, I'm I'm I believe Anderson County will get it.
Randy Reech was there, Jeffries played there.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, And I'll tell you what, they've really improved as
of lately. They have really improved. But I'm gonna go
with McCracken County. I think McCracken will win it. But
I'm telling you what, it's a Tulsa it.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Really it is. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
And then the last game here is Bryan Station and
Frederick Douglass. I think that'll be a good Frederick.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Yeah, I think it will be. And I think Brian
Station this is their time of year.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
But I still think Frederick Douglass is just gonna They're
gonna have or have a few more players.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
I'm going, I'm going Frederick Douglass as well.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
That was a There was some six pretty good games,
really second round games.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Well yeah, I mean, and that's the thing you didn't pick.
You didn't pick twelve games is going to be easy
to pick the winner. You picked really good games, and
they they were tough games to pick. But you know, uh,
what matters is there's gonna be great games and great
experiences for those kids.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That's what matters.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
So you know, the final outcome, everybody won't be happy,
but for those four quarters, those kids ground the time
of their life playing in a big football game.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
There's only going to be eight teams left in each
class after this Friday.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, that sure is. That's that's
that's a good accomplish.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, I always call it. There you go, yeah, yeah, David,
what about next week?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Well, I'm excited. A he's been on for state championships.
He sends us some great questions. It's finally time. Hunter
Cantwell is going to be on next week, the head
coach at Cal who's done a great job.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And I always love to go back to this.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Two thousand and three to Friday after Thanksgiving, we're playing
at Highlands against Del Bueller's team Ed Jordan Nevills. You
and Brandon are playing Tillman with Perry Thomas, and Hunter
Camptwell's a quarterback. I mean, it's like it's like it's
like the whole family's playing in this final four.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
But I'm excited to have him. Our tough topic, I.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Think is a really good one from Bee Charger on
Bluegrass Preps. Sixty five players are one hundred and five
players nine through twelve, which is better. I thought that
was a cool question, So we'll get into that one
next week. You know something I've been through that had
never happened before. We got up to seventy seven at Anderson.
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I think we finished with seventy four, and I'm never
going to run a kid off. I don't do that.
And if everybody's doing what they should, they're welcome and
we'll give it a shot, but I have figured something
out seventy five.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
It's me. I get over seventy five. I mean, that's
a lot of people that can do a lot of stuff,
you know.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
I mean, that's a lot of people. But anyway, well,
I'm sorry, I'm already answering the question. But I'll have
a little twist on it anyway, because it actually it'll
be a qualified answer. Go ahead anyway, while or I
don't know what the word is I'm looking for circumstantially.
You know, sometimes I struggle with vocabulary on the podcast.
I get excited and what I say doesn't really make
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a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Another thing you struggle with is answering the question this
show versus next.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
I know what I'm gonna get better at that age.
Were only at week thirteen. I've got three more weeks
to try to fix this. I'm gonna next week. I'm
not going to answer the question a week early. I'm
really not.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Time for the coach's office trick. Time answers Versales in
nineteen sixty two won a Class A title. Thomas Jefferson
in nineteen seventy one won a three A title. Mount
Sterling in nineteen sixty nine won the Class A title,
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Henderson in nineteen fifty nine won the two A title,
Elkhorn City in nineteen sixty four won the Class A title.
Flage won three state titles in three A in nineteen
sixty one, nineteen sixty seven, and nineteen seventy one, and
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Lynch East Maine won four state titles in Class A
in nineteen fifty nine, nineteen sixty nineteen sixty three, in
nineteen sixty eight
Coach David Buchanan.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Coach Chuck Smith, two legendary high school football coaches. This
is the Coach's Office, a behind the scenes look at
Kentucky High school football.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's Coaches Office trivia time. Name the schools that no
longer exist that have won a KHSAA state football title.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Welcome to the Coach's Office Behind the Scenes with Chuck
Smith David Buchanan. This is season four, Episode thirteen. Wow
and then I'm Chuck Smith. I'm joined by co host
David Buchanan and podcast editor storyteller Mike Yoakum. Our YouTube
version of this podcast is at at teacop and if
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that or access that, we would really appreciate it. Our
guest coach tonight is Lexington Catholics David Clark. It's his
first year there. You know, David spent most of his
career at Barkstown High School, but boy, he's gone the
Lexington Catholic and he's got them hitting on all cylinders
(01:40):
and they're looking really strong at some real impressive wins
so far this year. We're gonna bring David on in
just a second. Our tough topic for tonight that David
and I will address will be, uh, what is the
role of the parent in your football program? And that'll
that'll be an interesting, interesting question and some interesting comments
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from David. Knot games of the week. We will take
two games out of each class and we will look
at those games and predict, predict who we think will
win those games.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Uh So then come, hey, since we're both old, I
know we're both gonna have like five stories on every
team in the playoffs? Are we gonna get to tell
all five stories? Or if I got to keep it
to one? Or how's that going to go?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Now?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
They're gonna be sure it'd be a rapid fire type
of thing, but you can.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You know, rapping fire. All right, keep going?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
All right, Let's talk a little bit about David before
we bring you on. Okay, Now, David Clark is the
head football coach of Lexton Catholic High School. He's the
nineteen he is a nineteen ninety six Center College grad
and uh he played for the legendary Joe McDaniel and
he spent twenty seven years at Markstown High School, seventeen
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as the head football coach from two thousand and seven
to twenty twenty three, he was the head football coach.
Prior to that, he was an assistant coach. As a
head coach, he's had a three A regional championship, a
state runner up finish in twenty twenty two. He has
had like four state semi final games. He's had two
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undefeated regular seasons. He has over one hundred and thirty
or about one hundred and thirty one wins as a
head football coach. I don't think that's count Lexton Catholic,
but one hundred and thirty one wins as a head
football coach as an assistant. Then he won with Joey Downs.
He was assistant to Joey Downs. They won the two
thousand and one state championship. And then he retired after
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the twenty twenty three season, and then he took over
for Lexington Catholic in the twenty twenty five season. He's
currently got Lexington Catholic at nine and two going into
the second round off to a strong start. I personally
worked with David for a year. Man, what a great
outstanding football coach is and a great person as well.
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But I truly appreciate how he treated me over that
one year David. You want to bring David on?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yes, I do, and uh and we can go off
on so many tangents of center college. David was actually
a good quarterback. I was down there on the scout team.
But David, I think of all the things that may
mean the most. Man, that one year I didn't have
a team and it was rough. You let me come
down and talk to your team on one Friday at once,
and man, I had a blast. That was really cool.
(04:41):
So thanks for helping a unemployed football coach out there
for a week.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was good. Thanks for joining us tonight. We're really
glad to have you.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Thanks for having me, guys, yep.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Uh, Well, David, I'll started off right here. Look you
you were, you were twenty seven years at high school. Uh,
then you come after a year off, you come back
and then you come back into the same district and
go to Lexington Catholic. So therefore that meant that you
had to line up on the opposite sideline from the
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program that you spent twenty seven years at. You know,
how can you you know you know what what what
what did you what was your faults?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
You know?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
What what did you think about all that?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
I was actually at Barstown for twenty eight, I did
a bonus year. I had one more after twenty seven.
I did one more for twenty eight. Then the other
irony of it is is I'm the one who petitioned
to move us over into Lexting Catholics District back when
they realigned. Uh so, so I didn't know I was
setting myself up there.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
But football football, you know, the kids are the kids.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
So once once I got to the game, it was
just football, you know, and that it just takes over.
And you guys, know how that is the hard part
is just the relationship part of it. Seeing those guys
across and heck, most of the guys that are coaching
over there, I coached And if you're forty five or younger,
I taught you over there. So you know, seeing everybody
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that that I had a personal relationship, that that was
the tough part. And and you know the junior and
senior class, those were kids that came through our program
all the way from you know, yeah, they were little
tigers all the way through, So you know, I had
a lot of personal relationships there, so that that part
was was tough.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Did you uh what was well before the game I
guess it was all you know, lovey dovey and shaking
hands and and uh telling old stories. But then after
the game, you all kind of put it on barks down.
Kind of pretty good, wasn't it.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Well, you know, one of the things that made my
situation unique was is that I retired, so I was
their old coach. Anyways, it wasn't like I left the program.
So it was really good to see those kids. And
after the game, it was so good to give them
hugs and just tell them how proud of them I
was watching them growing up. And same thing with the
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coaching staff. So so it was it was a good
bookend to a night for sure.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, did you it was still? Was you real nervous
or anything like that, like before the game or anything
like that? Was you you? You seem to be uh,
you know, okay with it. I mean you didn't you
didn't have any uh uh you know, like I don't
know if I would have lined up against Boyle County
after you know, like a year or so, I would
have really, I don't know. I don't know what I
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would have thought. I guess That's why I'm asking you.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Yeah, And I think it comes back to what I
said first, is like, once you get in between those lines,
it's football. And you know, football is football no matter
who it is. You, you're playing a game and you're
you're strategizing, and you're trying to you know, you're trying
to reach your goals. So once once that part of
it started, everything else, that's all that's all you think about.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Hey, uh, David, tell us about your experience playing for
coach Joe McDaniel at Center and how that's impacted you
as a high school football coach.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Bro I will elaborate on that a little bit.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
Is not only did I play for Joe McDaniel, but
I got the I got the honor to play for
Dan Haley in high school, which is a legendary coach
and and both of those men had had a lot
of impact on me as a person in and on
my coaching style.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Coach Haley he taught me how that.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
You could be tough and very demanding at the same time,
I show you that you care about him, and I
think that was very very important.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Coach McDonel showed me, showed me how to prepare.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
He was also very demanding, but you know, coach McDaniel
did it in a way that he treated you like
a man.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
He treated everybody like a man, and he.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
Never I don't know if I heard him raise his
voice very often and you never heard him you never
heard him say across or a curse word.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Yeah, he just he just really treated you professionally at
that age.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
And that's something that I've really tried to continue on
and carry over to the kids, is.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Coach them hard. But at the same time, I'm truting, like, man, I.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Got he's come up a lot on this show. He
has he's he's really and I'm betting before through recruiting,
I really liked him a lot. He was he was
what everybody says he is and just agreed.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Coach Haley coach Yeah, okay, yeah, I thought he's come
up a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I mean other coaches have mentioned him on here and
he's done a good He was really a good guy. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
You know my dad, my dad said Dan Haley was
the best offensive line coach in the state of Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
For what it's worth. That was that was fifty years ago.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yeah, he taught me how to run the beer and
that those principles are some of the principles that still
you is the three. You know, we ran the option
and it didn't matter what you were going to line
up in. By god, we were going to run it
every now and then we got crazy and we go
we go to receivers instead of one. But about as
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will as we got.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hey, David, you said most of your career coaching and
teaching in public schools. Now you're over at a private
school like Lexington Catholic. How would you describe the difference
in the kids, their mindsets, their attitude, even their approach
to the game.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well, I think one of the things is, like I
said before, is football is football. Kids are kids no
matter where you go. Those things aren't going to change.
Speaker 7 (10:42):
The biggest difference that I have learned that I not
necessarily understood until I was a part of it is
people that are in private education are there by choice,
and by being there by choice, you you coach them differently.
You can because they're there because they want to be.
(11:03):
You know, in public education, not everybody's there because they
want to be. Now and they're grabbing a hold of
football and you're using football as a tool to help
them for their educational purposes. Here's not that's not the
same case, you know, so when somebody's there because they
want to be, you can approach the game a lot differently.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, that's interesting, But that's an interesting and a good answer.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, that is a good answer.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Hey, to talk a little bit now more about the
football piece of it. You know, you talked about I
mean your background with coach Hayley and the coach McDaniel
and then being a head coach and then before that
with Joey Dawns. So I'm going to try to narrow
it down a little bit. In the past five years,
what are changes you've made, either schematically or in the
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way that you run your program that you believe have
led to increase success on the field. What are some
adjustments you make, and specifically one I'd like to hear
about which I would think is a fairly new adjustment.
I mean, I hear a lot of talk about your
three safety defense and how effective it is and how
good it is at disguising coverages. So Hey, sort of
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tell us what are some things you've done differently here
recently that you think have helped you well.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I think to.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Kind of work backwards on that.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
I think the key is to have uncompromising fundamental principles
that you have that you are not going to change,
and then you build your program based upon those principles
that there are things that we're not going to compromise on.
So we lay that foundation, and then all that other
stuff can change, like how you do your weight program,
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what scheme you're going to run, all that other kind
of stuff. You got to go with the flow. But
the things that we stand for, those things are uncompromising.
We're not going to get away from those. But you know,
when we started looking at what type of system that
we were going to run, we knew we had some
good defensive players. We knew we had some unique, uh
defensive players with our defensive line that were fast, strong
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and athletic. So we we built a system playing you know,
it's it's a form of a three five, but we
we our secondary is a major major part of what
we do. We've built that. We built that around those
three big guys that can be able to control the box.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
So you called it a three five, you say it's
a three five, It's not a three three five.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I mean, I don't know, I don't know what you
want to call it. Uh, you know, that's we're gonna
we're gonna play. We're gonna it's gonna look like a
three three five some Yeah, we're gonna play. We're gonna
play a lot of different coverages. We're gonna show you
different coverages. We're gonna you know, have it's you know
the three. The three defense is gonna be a lot
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of stunt type defense anyways, and so you know, that's
what you're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
And you're just gonna get a lot of multiple looks
from from what we do. And that's that's kind of
what we tried to do, is get as many multiple
looks as we can for the defense, to for the
offenses to have, you know, create mismatches and problems for them.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Yeah, I got cool. I say they're doing a great
job on defense. You've only given up eighty nine points
for the entire year. That's one of the top defense
in the state. I mean, yeah, are you what do
you doing, David? Are you doing the offense or defense?
Are you just being the head?
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Yeah, I'm doing the offense.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
The defensive coordinator is Dave Nernberg, and he ran this
system a couple of years ago for a Lexton Catholic
and we actually played him in a scrimmage and I
loved what he did.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
And so when I came on and he was actually
on the offensive.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Side of the ball, and I said, I would like
for you to go back to the defense and run
the defense that you had.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
I really like what you do.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
And so he does an unbelievable job with it, and
he understands the kids in his schemes and he gets
the kids in the right spots.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
What's really helpful too. And I don't know, I don't
know if you I don't think if you separated as
private and public. But uh, I know at private schools,
a lot of times you get a lot of smart
kids and you can do a whole lot when you've
got that uh you know understand uh you know football
and why you're doing what you're doing, and you can
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you can make a lot more adjustments, uh and and
and checks and things like that. So you know, I
think that always seems to fit. Private school is pretty good.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Well.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Being able to run run a system with your kids
that that understand it is very very important.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Some of the other things.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
That that that help is when you have numbers and
you're only asking them to learn one side of the ball.
You can do more of that way too, so you know,
we don't have as many kids playing both both ways
in which allows us to be a little bit more
complex on on the other side of the ball when
they're only when they're only.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Having this one spot, one you know, one petition.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I always knew that when I was at Boyle and
I had a smart kids, I knew we were going
to go far. And it's the truth. I mean, it
really is. It's a game of you know, when you
get to this start getting to the second, third, and
fourth levels, the smart ones are the ones who start
separating themselves from everybody else.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
My opinion, uh, know what to knowing what to do
when you know you have a really good team is
you have players that know what to do, and then
you have players that understand why you do what you do.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Okay, David, My last question for you here is uh
some of some people in it comes up a lot
on the show. That's why I want to ask, is
uh some of the people feel that private schools should
have their own division and be separate from public schools.
Now that you've done been on both sides, you know,
what's your what's your opinion of that.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Well, if you all remember back in the day, you
all aren't much older than I am. We voted on this,
well whatever year that was, early two thousands, we voted,
and I voted to separate them. I was on the
side of the public school and I thought that the
private schools should be separate.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
But as time has gone on, and.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Not interruption, but that that past.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
It passed, the state legislature said no, no. When KDU
got involved in that knocked that sucker out. I don't
know if any other I don't know of any other
delegation rule that that they have overturned. That's only what
I remember in my time in for twenty some years.
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But yeah, they knocked that one down. But as time
has gone on, what we've seen is I think two
major factors have changed my opinion on it. One is
you see kids that are transferring going public with the
public at a high rate. You are not seeing very
many kids that are being denied transfers anymore. Just from
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my own experience, I didn't see it very often. The
other thing that that I thought that the private schools
had a competitive edge on the public schools was of facilities.
And since COVID. That is not the case. You know,
you see these public schools that are that are building
these beautiful facilities, and they have the same resources that
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the private schools. In some cases they have more resources
than the private schools. So you know, they're able, they're
able to I think, I think the playing field is
a whole lot more even than what it was twenty
years ago, by far. And you know, the delegation just
passed the what the one transfer rule this past September,
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so you know, things are landscape is going to change
even more depending upon whether how all that shakes out.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with what you say. There's only
there's only two exceptions to those comparisons, and they are unity. Yeah,
that's the only two uh you know exceptions to that
they they have. Well that's a whole nother subject. We'll
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get into that.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Anyway, Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, I really like
what he said. And again I go back to what
Marvid Danceler shared with us. You know, I don't think
it's public private anymore. I think it's more select versus
non select. If you're going to go down that road,
because you know, as David said, there's there's as much,
if not more transfers flowing into the public schools as
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are the private now, and it's very different, very different
from say, as you said, twenty years ago when they
were voting on that.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
So I appreciated David, you've been You've been a wonderful guest,
and uh, good luck this week.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
How do you prepare prepare for Central? They've changed coaches?
What's that been like?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Well, we we've prepared for him just based upon what
we've seen them on film, you know, and preparing for
them the same way. Now if they decided to do
something different, then we'll find out. But you know, uh, Lonnie,
all of them has been around for a long time.
He's been in the game for a really long time
so and he's been their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
So we think we have a pretty good idea of
what they plan to do, unless unless they just decided
to change everything. But the past two games they've been
they've been pretty consistent what they've been doing all season.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
So thank got you, lucky lucky.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Thanks guys, really enjoying David.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
We're going to our next segment of the podcast, and
of course that's the tough topic and it's really it's
off the Bluegrass Preps again. Bluegrass Preps has been good
to us with these uh, with these questions. This is
pretty red cat. That what it is? A al cat.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, I don't know if it's atl Cat or Atlanta Cat.
I can't tell which it is. But anyway, he's a
pretty prominent member on Bluegrass Preps and I usually enjoy
his content.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's been pretty good.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah. Well, the question is what is the role of
the parent in the football program? And of course I've
been out of it for a few years, but as
a head coach and you right in the middle of
all of.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
It here, Well, I go back to something you told
me a long time ago, and you you told me said,
people are going to especially when you're having success, people
will want to have a role in your program, and
if you don't give them a role, they're going to
find one. So I took that to heart, and we
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actually having our our player when we meet in May
with our players and parents, we have a page called
role of parents and supporting their son is a football player.
We've got eleven things listed and it's about encouraging him
to take care of his body, to do his best,
encourage your son to put the team first. That's not normal.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
You know. I put this in here. I hope this
isn't too ub notaious.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
I say, you know, if I showed up at your
work to tell you how to do your job, you're
gonna think I'm crazy you walk into me. I'm gonna
be nice because I understand that your son, but I'm
thinking the same thing. So you know, we'll handle the
playing time. But then I also say this, if it's
something not to do with playing time that's bothering your son,
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I need to know about that. I want to know
about it if he needs help or there's something wrong.
We talk about helping out with concession stand boosters. I
had to throw this one in. I'm not very proud
of this, but I put it in there. But one
fall I had a college coach tell me that going forward,
when they recruit a play they were going to ask
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about the parents.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And I hate to.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Tell you this, it was one of my guys. He
went as a college football player and his dad alienated
himself from that college football staff and they could not
stand him, and they said, from here on out, we're
gonna ask about that. And so I always tell people
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on stuff, whether it's you know, character evaluation, parents, all that.
I say, Look, I said, I'm gonna tell the truth.
I said, I'm gonna try not to say bad stuff,
but I am going to tell the truth, because then
I don't have any I have no credibility if I
lie for you. And I even tell him this, say, look,
if you've got negative thoughts about the staff, you're better
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off to keep it to yourself, because it's gonna be
hard for your son to practice and play hard if
he's not real sure that the coaches do what they're doing.
So something else I had, I say, you know, being
to practice on time, your gear, all that, that's your
son's responsibility and we're gonna hold him accountable for it.
But man, if you can help him get all those
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pieces right, we'll take the help.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
And you know, we had.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
A young man he was late for a Wednesday morning
practice and he said, well, it's my dad's fault.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
My dad didn't wake up.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I said, well, I said that might have been how
you all worked it out, But I said no, I said,
this is your fault.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I said, it's your job to get up and come
to practice. Is now it's my dad?
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I said, no, it's not your dad's job to get
your practice, that's your job and stuff like that. But anyway,
I really stole that from you and I give that
to him in May, and I think it's helped. I mean,
I'll say this in thirty three years, Harris Mason Mercer
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now Anderson, I mean, I would say that probably ninety
eight percent of the parents have been super They have
been great. And I think there's two things for the coach.
I know he didn't ask what the coaches role. I
think there's two things that are really important. You got
to be fair and you got to communicate. And I
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think if you're the head coach, if you're fair and
you communicate most of the time, things will work out. Now,
if you're not fair or if you don't communicate, I
think you're gonna have some problems. And even looking back
on some times, like if a guy was removed from
the team, all they'd be mad at me. I mean
they'd be furious, but over time they would sort of
(25:34):
handle it because they knew at the heart of the matter, well,
he's not using my kid to win. He helped us
son accountable because he wants him to be a better person.
So that sort of goes back to that communication piece again.
I think I've been very fortunate at all four schools.
The parents have overwhelmingly been supportive. They've been great, and
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I'm very thankful because I really don't like I've had
some of these horrible parents stories I hear people talk about.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I've been very thankful.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yeah, I can see one hundred percent how you would
not have any problems with parents because you're so or you're.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Huh well, I wouldn't say I haven't had any I'd
had some.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Minimum minimum of mine because you're so organized and you're
so thorough, and I think that does have a whole
lot to do with it. Uh you know, and uh
you know. But my answer is I really believe to
run a championship program, it takes everybody being on the
same page. That's the parents along with the players, the administration,
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the community all play an important part. You know, you
can't you can't do it alone. You need all of
these people, you really do. You can't do without the
parents because the parents in today's football now are a
big part of, you know, the the image that's spread
out there of the football program. They are a big
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part of helping with the fundraising, uh, the organization of
you know everything, game day bank, what's everything. So you
need everybody in order to run a championship program. I
think as a head football coach, then you know you
need to get everybody on that same page. I think
that's kind of your job. It's it's your vision. So
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you've got to sell everybody on your vision. And then
uh then you kind of define their roles after you
sell them on your division or on their on your vision,
you know. And it all and I think a lot
of it starts with that mandatory meeting parent meeting that
you have.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
I had won everyone to do that, and we have
a book we give to every family.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You've got to do that. You've got to go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I'm sorry, that's a that's a perfect example why you
had minimum Uh you know, trouble out of parents is
because of that book. You know, that organization and and
and I always at that man at that mandatory parent meeting,
then I always uh felled out everybody's you know, uh
you know kind of the the responsibility and the rules
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and you know, I went through all the rules that
I was gonna uh uh, you know, treat how it's
gonna treat their players, uh, what the rules they had
to follow. And I did it with the players and
the parents in there because I wanted them to see
how their kid was going to be coached and held accountable.
And then afterwards, you know, we always had you know, uh,
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you know, a meeting with the parents, a quarterback club meeting.
I think it really starts, uh to get this thing right.
It really starts with a great quarterback club president. And
I've been fortunate enough to have some great ones. I've
been fortunate enough to be around some great ones. You know,
that person can make your job and you are, your
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life so much easier if you have a good one,
and it can make it so much harder if you
don't have a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
And so that that is a key player in my opinion,
is to have a great quarterback club president because he
is really going to be or she is really going
to be the ones that are in charge of organizing
the parents and getting the parents. You don't have time
to do all that they're they're going to have to
do and that's going to be their responsibility. And I've
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had some great ones. I had Steve Cammy, uh was
one that was my Quarterback club president forever at Boyle County.
He was kind of like my my buddy gear of
uh you know, Friday night lights.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
You know, he was.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Me and him became really good friends. You know, we
we did, uh we did a lot together and but
we were on the same page. We knew what it
was going to take. And and he did a great
job of rallying the parents and getting parent involvement and
and helping with fundraising and it was really good. Then
my last one there was Lordy Ann Clark. And what
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a super lady she is. I mean, she was a
wonderful lady. She she was such a hard worker, a
good organizer, uh, you know, kept the parents involved, and
she had the personality to do it and just a
super lady. And I know that Brandon has got one
now and uh his name is Jeff Reynolds, and I
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mean he has taken it to a whole new level.
I mean with as far as communication, organization, you know,
getting the parents to participate. I mean, if there was
a Hall of Fame for quarterback club presidents, Jeff Reynolds
would be the president of it. He's that he's that
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he had a whole new level with it. He's very,
very good. But I'm telling you it takes a good
president to help you get all of this organized. You
can't do it by yourself if you're doing that and
you're not coaching, and uh so you know you got
you've got to have one of those.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Hey, this was one time that it was a negative
that it turned out good. We're struggling, and so my
quarterback club president is calling me. They're not bad, but
they're conveying negative messages repeatedly. And so finally I said, hey,
I tell you what I got an idea. You tell
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all these people complaining that if they've got a problem,
they need to come and see me. And you're tired
of being the middleman. And guess how many times I
got a phone after that there is a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It was. It was all right after that.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
So I was glad I could help our president out
and not have to filter out so many bad messages.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
But againwhelmingly they've been good. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I never had to deal with that negativity because my
president took care of it before it ever got to me.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, and that's when you know you got a good one.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Amen. Amen, I agree. That's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yeah. I had one of those seats too, David, that
I would give out to the parents and it would
forgot where I got it from, and I know I
probably got it somewhere, but it was like, you know,
how you how you should handle your son when he
comes home and he's complaining about the coach. It was, Oh,
it was really really good and it uh it kind
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of have the parents out that guide him along the way,
you know, and and tech them, you know, things how
to handle those situations.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Well, you know, one of the reasons that I wanted
my sons to play football, and you know, you had this.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
With your children.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You know, our kids, for the most part, they're pretty
well behaved. They do their school work, they've got decent manners,
and was the only yeah, well, but football was one
of the few places that he would tell him, May
you got to do a lot better than that.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
May you got to give a better effort. You know.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
They they got a level of criticism and accountability at
football that other than for me and their mom, they
didn't get anywhere else. All they got everywhere else was
how wonderful they are. Well, they came to football practice,
they didn't hear about how wonderful they were all the time,
you know, and they needed that. They needed somebody to
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get it again, do it in a constructive way, positive,
not cursing them or any of that. But they needed
somebody that would say, you know what, I think they're
the better level for you here, and we're going to
work till we get it. And I Drew plaid you
about you know, how to handle your son when he's
having a tough time to practice. Man, my sons needed that,
(33:45):
and I think it really helped them a lot as
adults that you know, they had to go through that fire.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
It was good for him, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
And Brandan had to go through too. It was good.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
It was good.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yeah, that's the of itself.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
They would take out on him what they wanted to
do to me when I was hollering at him.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah when he was young.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
When he's older, they wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Anyway, you want to get on to the next segment.
And that is the the kind of the rapid fire
second round games.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
But we did.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
We chose, you know, really two games from each class.
So there's twelve game, twelve games on here. Actually six
games twelve teams that we want to look at and
and give our opinion on what we think. We won't
spend a lot of time talking about him. Going to
just give up a quick Do you want to tally these? David?
Do you want to keep record of these and add
(34:44):
them to our uh season end ending?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
This is your baby, you whatever you want, you want
to add him to the tally, Let's add him.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I keep record of how you're doing. Yeah, hey, first
came up. The first two games up in one A
is Newport Central Catholic versus Bishop Brosart.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yes, I'm going New Cat.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Hey, I gotta have one quick story quick. My first
playoff game as a head coach was against Newport Catholic.
Mike Yegel from Beechwood. He told me, said, David, they're
gonna come out in all these paths. He said, They're
gonna look like they're all three fifty. Said, they're not
that big. So anyway, they come out of that tunnel,
I mean, it looks like we're playing LSU.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Those suckers are monsters. They are huge.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
So anyway, hey, we're playing them, and we're they kicked
our tails when we buy fined them a little bit man. Hey,
we're trying to attack and squeeze and all this kind
of stuff. Maybe my defensive tackle, Roddy Shadal he ruus
to the sideline. He says, Coach, that technique stopped working tonight.
I said, hey, we invented a technique right there that night.
(35:59):
We called it paaris. That's when we start cutting the
legs on the old lineman. If we're having If we're
having he look, but anyway, I'm going to go with
new caf A.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Bob Schneider. I got one last real story he got
on me. We had played a fifty all year my
nose guard. I only had twenty seven kids. It's a
big kid.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
He wasn't very good, but we would make him submarine
on first down. Then we'd take him out and play
at four to four, just because I had to use
the bodies. Coach Snyder tells me that we ended up
beating him that night. That was ninety four, and he
told me that night he said, David, you took out
your nose guard. He said, you destroyed my game playing.
I said, Coach, I knew he couldn't play against you.
(36:39):
There's no way I would have let him play against you.
And he just sort of shook his head like that.
But anyway, Hey, I got coach Snyder. He was already
for that nose guard. And I'm like that sucker. Can't
play against New Calf No way, all right, go ahead,
I'm not bad.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Hey, that's the lad of time on the story.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
They used to be a powerhouse.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
They were Frank Jacobs remember went to Notre Dame. Hey,
Eddie Eviston. Eddie Eveston from NEWCAF, a great player and
a great coach and a guest on our podcast.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
All right, next Holy Cross out of Louisville and KCD KCD,
I'm with you on both of those so far. And
then two A we got Dan Boy in Somerset. This
might be an interesting one.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I agree. I think Somerset's going to get them. The
Davills dangerous, So who you pick it? I'm picking Somerset. Hey,
and I wanted to add this too. David talked about
public school facilities. Somerset's about ready to build something phenomenal.
I think it's gonna have an indoor perf seventy yards long. Well,
(37:50):
I've been told it's gonna be the third vegas facility
in Kentucky. UK is one, Louisville is two, Somerset is three,
but then's on the horizon. Yes, gonna be an indoor
and it's gonna be phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I'm picking Dan Boying that one.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I got.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
They're having a great year. I know they're going but
and I know it to be a tall task to
get that done. But you know, they they they they've
been impressive. Uh, listen to this one. Bracken County and
Breathitt County. In Bracken County up there were by Mason.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yes, yes it is. And I tell you what that's
Uh they this is a.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Whole new level for Bracken County to be in this
position that they're in.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Uh, that is a tough one. I'm gonna go Bracken.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Whoa, whoa, I'm gonna go Breathitt County. Hard not to Yeah,
how about three A? How about Louisville Central and Laxington Catholic.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I'm gonna go with Lexon Catholic.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I am too, but I'll tell you what. Uh and
and I'm I don't I'm not second gets to myself,
but I will compliment Central, little little Central has played
pretty good the last couple of games, haven't.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
They well, hey, what they They got Bargetown, which you
know I think you I think.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I think I picked Central and you picked Barstown.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I'm not for sure, but uh yeah, they they've done
a good job and uh uh I we always do
stuff with them in the summer. Louisville Central going back
to Marvin and Mercer County days. I'm crazy about Louisville Central.
I love their kids are super But I do think
Catholic right now is going to get them.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I do.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
How about rock Castle and Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Uh I think I'm gonna go Lawrence really yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Yeah, they're playing at Lawrence County. I'm gonna go with
I'm gonna go with Rockcastle.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
That's a good pick.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Hey, if you ever played a game at Lawrence County
never now, Yeah, I've been there a couple of times.
I like it, but I think it's a I think
it's a tough place to go win, but I like
Lawrence County. Hey, Billy Goldsmith, there's a name, Billy Goldsmith.
I love Billy Goldsmith.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Uh, all right, we're going into four A. How about Toby.
Oh my god, this is one of the top games.
This is Covington Catholic and Johnson Central.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, and it's that it's that I would have given
the edge. It's I would have given the edge to
cub Cast.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
But at Johnson Central, I'm like, I think I'm still
gonna go with cub Casts. I think they're both, they're
both great teams. I really like this quarterback at cub Cast.
I think he's really good. And uh, I tell you
what if that cat and the bunch can roll in
and win at Bull County last year with the talent
they had, I think they can get it done here too.
I just that that was an insane win last year.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
And I'm going with Johnson Central. I think I got it. Franklin,
how about this one, Franklin Simpson, Simpson and Padukah Tillman.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
That's a tough one because Wilman's been struggling now, how
like Tillman struggled our old boy William Harris at Taylor
County was the DC last week. That made it tough
on that Tilman offense. And you sort of know how
it goes. If somebody sees a blueprint on how to
defend a team, people start typing that blueprint. So I
(41:20):
can see Franklin Simpson taking a lot of pieces of
Williams game plan to try to slow down Tillman. But
I sort of think I sort of still think Tilman's
going to be better and Tillman's gonna win.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
That's who I'm picking as well, and they have been struggling.
That kind of concerns me a little bit.
Speaker 5 (41:40):
They get better the beer the game gets, they get better.
It's just as it started to click yet, But the
closer they get to December, they're play better.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
I don't wonder if I had any injury or anything,
because they have been really off. Either that or some
chemistry problems, I don't know. But on way five, let's
look look at here's another really good game Scott County
and Cooper.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Hey, you talk about how good our district is.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
South oldhom came in fourth and Cooper beat him two touchdowns,
and a lot of people think Cooper's gonna win it.
It's a dog on good district. I'm gonna go with
Scott County on this one, though. I think I think
the Cardinals will win. Uh, I just I think I
think Scott County is playing pretty well.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Every time I picked Scott County, they lose, So I
want to pick.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Cooper, I got you, Jim will say thank you.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Then Butler and Fardale.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Man, I tell you, if there's two that sort of
come out of nowhere, Faradale has really turned out to
be much better than what anybody anticipated. I think that's
a tough one to pick too. Uh. I think I'm
gonna go Fardale on this one.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
That's that's who I'm going with. David is Fardale.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
And then uh sixth a, we got Henderson and my kracking.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Eric. See.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
I think every time I pick Henderson they win. Mojoe
Hollowell do you remember that name?
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Mojoe man he he was a heck of a coach.
Then went to Orangsboro Catholic. I believe that was it.
But yeah, I'm I'm I believe Anderson County will get it.
Randy Reech was there, Jeffries played there.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, And I'll tell you what, they've really improved as
of lately. They have really improved. But I'm gonna go
with McCracken County. I think McCracken will win it. But
I'm telling you what, it's a Tulsa it.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Really it is. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
And then the last game here is Bryan Station and
Frederick Douglass. I think that'll be a good Frederick.
Speaker 5 (43:42):
Yeah, I think it will be. And I think Brian
Station this is their time of year.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
But I still think Frederick Douglass is just gonna They're
gonna have or have a few more players.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
I'm going, I'm going Frederick Douglass as well.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
That was a There was some six pretty good games,
really second round games.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
Well yeah, I mean, and that's the thing you didn't pick.
You didn't pick twelve games is going to be easy
to pick the winner. You picked really good games, and
they they were tough games to pick. But you know, uh,
what matters is there's gonna be great games and great
experiences for those kids.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That's what matters.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
So you know, the final outcome, everybody won't be happy,
but for those four quarters, those kids ground the time
of their life playing in a big football game.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
There's only going to be eight teams left in each
class after this Friday.
Speaker 5 (44:37):
Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, that sure is. That's that's
that's a good accomplish.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Yeah, I always call it. There you go, yeah, yeah, David,
what about next week?
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Well, I'm excited. A he's been on for state championships.
He sends us some great questions. It's finally time. Hunter
Cantwell is going to be on next week, the head
coach at Cal who's done a great job.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
And I always love to go back to this.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
Two thousand and three to Friday after Thanksgiving, we're playing
at Highlands against Del Bueller's team Ed Jordan Nevills. You
and Brandon are playing Tillman with Perry Thomas, and Hunter
Camptwell's a quarterback. I mean, it's like it's like it's
like the whole family's playing in this final four.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
But I'm excited to have him. Our tough topic, I.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Think is a really good one from Bee Charger on
Bluegrass Preps. Sixty five players are one hundred and five
players nine through twelve, which is better. I thought that
was a cool question, So we'll get into that one
next week. You know something I've been through that had
never happened before. We got up to seventy seven at Anderson.
(45:53):
I think we finished with seventy four, and I'm never
going to run a kid off. I don't do that.
And if everybody's doing what they should, they're welcome and
we'll give it a shot, but I have figured something
out seventy five.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
It's me. I get over seventy five. I mean, that's
a lot of people that can do a lot of stuff,
you know.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
I mean, that's a lot of people. But anyway, well,
I'm sorry, I'm already answering the question. But I'll have
a little twist on it anyway, because it actually it'll
be a qualified answer. Go ahead anyway, while or I
don't know what the word is I'm looking for circumstantially.
You know, sometimes I struggle with vocabulary on the podcast.
I get excited and what I say doesn't really make
(46:38):
a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Another thing you struggle with is answering the question this
show versus next.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
I know what I'm gonna get better at that age.
Were only at week thirteen. I've got three more weeks
to try to fix this. I'm gonna next week. I'm
not going to answer the question a week early. I'm
really not.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Time for the coach's office trick. Time answers Versales in
nineteen sixty two won a Class A title. Thomas Jefferson
in nineteen seventy one won a three A title. Mount
Sterling in nineteen sixty nine won the Class A title,
(47:20):
Henderson in nineteen fifty nine won the two A title,
Elkhorn City in nineteen sixty four won the Class A title.
Flage won three state titles in three A in nineteen
sixty one, nineteen sixty seven, and nineteen seventy one, and
(47:44):
Lynch East Maine won four state titles in Class A
in nineteen fifty nine, nineteen sixty nineteen sixty three, in
nineteen sixty eight
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