coaches office with guest Coach Sam Harp

In this episode the coaches guest is the Danville icon Coach Sam Harp

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Coach David Buchanan.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Coach Chuck Smith, two legendary high school football coaches. This
is the Coach's Office, a behind the scenes look at
Kentucky high school football.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Welcome to the Coach's Office behind the Scenes with Chuck
Smith and David Buchanan. This is off season three, episode five,
so we've already.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
This is the fifth week of the season, Boys Flying By.
I'm Chuck Smith.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm joined by co hosts David Buchanan, podcast editor Slash
Slashbackstory Tiller, mikey Oakum, and then Noah King is our
social media manager. Our YouTube version of this podcast is
at t cop TTE, dot O, dot P and if
you access that, then if you would hit like and subscribe, which.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Is totally free to do that, that would help us out.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
The show.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
We got a great show in for you tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
You know, we have one of the best coaches ever
to coach in the state of Kentucky high school football
as our guest coach, and that's Sam Hart. Sam was
the former head football coach at Danville High School. There
he won seven state championships. And we'll bring Sam on
here in just a second, but you want to stay

(01:53):
tuned and listen to Sam. It'll be a great show.
Our tough topic for tonight is by Joe Walls. How
does a new coach who comes into a program that
has not been successful several for several years rally the administration,
the potential players, the parents behind his plan.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
For the future.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
That's a really good question, and that'll be I know
both of us have had experiences with that, so we
should be able to come up with some.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Good feedback there.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And then the games of the week tonight are going
to be Bethham, Barsham, Bethham and Washington County. And then
we have Corbin and Frederick Douglas. That should really be
a good game. Corbyn and the Frederick Douglas should really
be a good game. And David and I will talk
about those games and give you our predictions. Now we

(02:45):
get ready to bringing Sam once. I want to tell
you a little bit about his background. Background. Sam, he
coached high school football for forty two years and he's
currently retired. He was, as I said, he was the
head football coach at Danville High School for twenty five years.
There he won seven state championships and had three runner ups.

(03:07):
So he was in the state championship game ten times
in his twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
That's pretty impressive right there.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
His overall record at Danville was two hundred and seventy
seven and sixty six. He was the Also, he has
a lot of coaching experiences at other schools.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
He was the head football coach at.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Callaway County for a little wall Anderson County, David's current
school for a little while, and he also was the
head coach in Lebanon, Tennessee for a little while.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Overall, his overall.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Record is three hundred and thirty two wins, one hundred
and forty two balls, three hundred and thirty two wins,
pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
He's won numerous Coach of the Year awards.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
He was inducted into the Kentucky High School Football Coaches Association,
I'm sorry, Kentucky Football High School Athletic Association their Hall
of Fame, and he was in the.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Twenty I believe he was in the twenty twenty class
of the Hall of Fame, So he's a Hall of famer.
Was He has the stadium and the complex there at
Danville named after him, so they certainly appreciated what he
was able to do for Danville.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
High school and as.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I said before, he's regarded as one of the best
coaches ever to coach in the history of Kentucky high
school football. When he was at Danville, I argue all
the time anybody that will listen, and these young coaches don't.
I don't know if they really know understand, but Danville
was They were one of the top, if not the

(04:37):
top program in the state of Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I mean, they were.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Right up there and could have easily beat Trinity and
say next, you know, on any and when he was
in his heyday and he handed at the peak, they
you know, he had it at the top and it
was it was an awesome program.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
And David, you want to bring save on.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
I do you know coach Harp I mean everything you said,
I mean phenomenal career that he's had, you know, a
little side and know what you mentioned. I'm in Anderson
County conversations with coach Harp. I had a really good
withe him before I went to Mason County and I
took the job and got a lot of good advice
and then it was a conversation with him right before

(05:17):
I went to Anderson County and I appreciate him and
his friendship, and you know he's again he's had a
phenomenal career, but he's always been willing to help out
and or help out a young guy back when I
was young. And Coach Harp, I just really appreciate once
again you making time first to be on our podcast.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Thank you well, thanks for having me. David really appreciate it.
And Chuck, thanks a lot for that introduction. Appreciate that
very much.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, hey, I want to kick us off here that
I know everybody in Anderson County wants me to ask
because coach, they love and respect you, and I drop
your name a lot because I know that I'm gonna
get a very positive response. But you know, we both
you know you've been at Anderson. I'm there and I
love being thereat. What was your favorite part of being

(06:04):
in Anderson County and what advice do you have for
a coach that wants to make Bearcat football the best
it can be.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, David, when they hired me back in eighty five,
they just made me really feel wanted. They wanted me,
like they really wanted me there for not just me
but my family as well. They basically handed me the
key of the program and then got out of my way,
which a lot of places don't do that. Friday nights,

(06:34):
it was the place to be in Lawrenceburg, Kentucky. Back
back at that time there was no radio, there were
no TVs, and the newspaper only came out on Wednesday,
So if anybody in the community wanted to know what
went on the football game, they had to be there.
So that was really great standing room only you know
when that happened. So just tremendous to be there on

(06:59):
Friday nights and have that kind of crowd there and
people just being excited that you're a part of it.
As far as advice, I'm not certain I can give
you any advice, David. You're quite a veteran coach yourself.
But I think the biggest thing is don't get bored
with repetition. I think too many times young guys do

(07:21):
that and they always looking for what's next. I think
you've got to get enormous amount of reps over and
over with what you're doing offensively and defensively.

Speaker 7 (07:33):
I don't think you can do too much.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
I think we all tend to gravitate to doing too
much or what we saw on TV the previous weekend
or whatever. I think, if you don't get bored of repetition,
I'm talking about in terms of practice. I'm talking about
in terms of your core values, your principles, the things
you believe in, and daily messages that you try to

(07:56):
get the team. And I think they just got to
need to hear the same thing over and over and
over again, uh, to get in their skulls and until
you know they can repeat it to you verbatim if
if you want them to do that. It's a close
knit community in Lawrenceburgh and a small community. And because
it is a small community, I think you gotta be

(08:20):
able to give back, you know, what you ask out
of the community. And I think that uh, it's kind
of like a return a favor sort of speak. You know,
they do something for you. I think at times you've
got to go do things for them or volunteer or
say even though they may not you know, want it.
The businesses or people whoever, churches, all whoever. You know,

(08:42):
if you can make yourself available to them, will they
want you to or not? I think it is it
goes a long way. I think you've got to promote,
promote and promote everything about your program in every way
that you can. Honestly, I think one of the best
coaching staffs that does it is Eddie James over Franklin

(09:05):
County right now. They do a tremendous job on social
media promoting the program and their kids and everything they do.
And I think, you know, we can all probably learn
a lesson from what he does there. I when Charlie
Strong was coaching at the University of Louisville, you made
a statement that came out in the paper one time
that social media will be the downfall of America. Well,

(09:28):
as we see what's going on today in today's world,
you know, that's pretty astupid when you think about it.
But I think now that we got all this social
media going on, I think you've got to do whatever
you can to use it, you know, And I think
especially comes down to what you do daily with the kids.
And lastly, as far as football, David, I always believe

(09:51):
that if I had it, if I could run the ball,
play play great defense, have a solid kicking game, I
had a chance in every game. And that's what I
pretty well myself with and everything that we did. And
I think you got that sometimes I remember when I
went to Anderson County in eighty five, I had to
dare to be different. I had to be different than

(10:12):
everybody else we played. We weren't athletically as good as
a lot of people that we had to play back
in the days with Barstown and playing Fort Knox, back
when they were a part our house, and we didn't
have that kind of talent that they had. So I
felt like we had to be different. So we ran
to split back deer. That was different what most people
were doing. We ran to split for defense. I remember

(10:34):
going blocking.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
We still blocking.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
I remember still going going over in studying with Bill
Balders when he was head coach at Georgetown College, and
I asked him, if you ever go back to high school,
what would what defense would you coach?

Speaker 7 (10:46):
He said, split forward.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
I said, okay, Coach, tell me why and then teach
me in the defense. So I spent a couple of
weekends over there, just me and Bill Balders in his
office and he's teaching me the defense. I went back
and started in Anderson County. We gave people fits with it,
and he did. He ran that defense when he was
at Harrisburg many many years ago. So those are the
things I believe in, I think, and I hope I

(11:09):
answer your question.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well, Hey, that that was a great answer, and I
appreciate it. And I think those details give an insight
into why you're still very much held in high esteem
in Larsburg, Kentucky, very much so. So I've very be
quiet with Chuck. Get the next.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
One, and and being the only show in town helps.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
A lot too, it does absolutely, especially for a small
community like that. I think that's a that's a plush Sam.
My question for you is you know what does it
take to have a program like you had at Danvil,
that elite program. What was your recipe for success?

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Well, I think, uh, the best way to do it, Chuck,
it's an easy it's easy to answer.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
Just do what you did at Ball County. That makes
it pretty easy.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
You know, it's a pretty comprehensive less obviously, I think
the number one thing is you got to have a
great administration. I was forced that. I had Bob Rowland
as a principal when I first went to Danville, and
then he became the superintendent.

Speaker 7 (12:12):
Everything starts at the top.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
If your superintendent doesn't want it, you're gonna have a
tough time, a very tough time. I think you got
to have quality coaches. Quality, to me is more important
than quantity. Example Jerry Perry that I had for many
many years that did the defense for me. You don't
find them much better than him.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
Everybody's got the.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
Enthusiastic and loyal about as coaches, and I think you
got to coach your coaches. I think sometimes we miss that.
Facilities they don't have to be new, but they need
to look good all the time. And I think that's
and I know David g prided yourself on doing that
when you got to Anderson Kennet because it needed some
dressing up. And I know you've been doing a lot

(13:01):
of that over there, feeder system from the ground up,
from little Leg all the way through. You know, a
lot of this is coach speak, but it's true too. Discipline,
you know, no one is more important than anyone else.
And it's like if you treat it that way as
a head coach, and everybody on the team knows that

(13:22):
that's that's what you believe in, and you're not going
to show favoritism anywhere. It's all straight with everybody, and
you can discipline as hard as you want to. But
it's when you separate that discipline from having favoritisms because
one guy's a great player and the other guys not
so good. That's when you struggle as a coach maintain
discipline and good quality program.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
I think.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
You got to motivate like crazy. You got to promote
your program like crazy. And that's easy. You know, if
you want to motivate your players and you promote and
promote and promote them, you know you you're gonna win
them over all the time. And you got to show
that you peer obviously, but you know you've got to
show how much you care before they care how much.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You know.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
That's oh cod speak all the time too, but it's
so true. Communication. A lot of times we forget that
once football tease it up. We forget sometimes communicate with
our administration, sometimes even with their own with our players
and their parents. I think you can't think anything for granted,
and you've got to keep Oak Linda communication going all

(14:25):
the time with those people. And I think the strength
program is probably one of the most vital things that
you can do as a coach in season, out of season,
off season. I mean, anytime that you can get there.
I think I think you need to be there. I
think that's where you build your program, and that's where
the kids earn it. You know, if they getting a

(14:47):
program and they're the busting their tails in there, you know,
for you know, three, four or five days a week
and then you know practice and you walk off that
practice field and you walk into the weight room or
you're in the weight room before you go to practice
field whatever. They're earning it every day, and I think
it benefits you so much if you can have an

(15:08):
end which one thing I know Bull County did when
Chuck was there. They had Jeff Hester. He had an
in school program strength going on. And if you got
it where the kids can have a class and do
the weightlifting and do the strength training throughout and just
not have to be football athletes either could be total

(15:28):
athletes all the way around. And you got a guy
like Jeff that does the job in there.

Speaker 7 (15:33):
I mean.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
The people, I mean, Chuck knows everybody, anybody knows how
that goes. Then you have a great chance to be successful, okay,
because they earned it all throughout the whole year and
you don't have to go brow beat them about it
when you get him out there booster clubs. Obviously you
can give you those added extras that you got to

(15:55):
have year round. Playing my planing year around can conditioning
year around. We had hard conditioning going on when we
was a damp and sometimes, you know, I know the
kids thought I would never let up. But when you
when you condition year round, Uh, it's not hard to
stay in condition. And I just firmly believe that we

(16:18):
did it.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
In the winter time. We did.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
In the summertime we did. You know, obviously during the
season during season, we didn't condition as much as we
did in the off season. We didn't have to, you know,
So I think that's extremely important. And I think you
got a recruit your kids that's got in school, I
don't think you got you know, a lot of good
kids are walking those halls, and I think you got
to continue recruiting them. And it's it's like a college

(16:40):
coaches have to do anymore and continue recruiting their players
that they have offensively and defensively. I said it before,
but I think you got to dare to be different,
you know. And uh, it's especially if you're in a
situation you might not have as good a talent as
other other places do and all. But also I think
it's extremely important to to coach what you know best.

(17:03):
So I guess you know, that's about it. In a nutshell, Chuck,
I hope to ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Okay, you did.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I think the listeners got a lot out of that, actually,
And I mean everything you said you did, and and
the and and the product you put on the field
was just really really elite.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
It really was. It was really the same.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And I had a lot of intense, tough competition, especially
later and after I got to boil out later on,
and when I first got there, it wasn't much of
a rivalry, but it became a rivalry and we had
some pretty intense game But I always respected same as
a coach.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
For every one of those games, I thought, I think
he was a great coach.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I thought, well, yeah, my dad, you know, was in
the building there at dan Well when when Sam was there,
and uh, you know, there's not a lot of guys
that my dad will say nice things about, or my
dad's got respect for, but you were certainly at the
top of his list and shared a lot of same.
You know. His perspective on you was very much like
Chuck's so I agree. He I think you may have

(18:09):
made reference to this a little bit, and I'd like
you to go in a little more detail. I remember
hearing you in a clinic. You made a list of
all the duties of a head coach, broken down for
an entire year. What led to that list and what
would you change if you were a head coach in
twenty twenty four?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
Well, what brought me to it? Coaches, I don't like surprises.
I don't like to take anything for granted. And I
think if you don't plan well, you plan to fail
is what you're going to do.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
And I really believe that even.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
To this day, although I've been retired for a while now,
I plan things out all the time. My wife she'll
make me, she'll turn a look at me, make a
funny all head coach. But I just believe you got
the plan all the time. And like I said, I
don't like surprises. So that's one reason why I came

(19:09):
up with the list that I did. I did a
month to month thing, and obviously things change over times,
and it's really easy to go in and make the
subtle changes in the list. I felt like not being
surprised would would lead lead to better preparation overall in
the total program, and I think which would lead to

(19:29):
more wins. And I also think it would give me
more time at home with my family, okay, because I'm
not up back at school or whatever dealing with a
situation that I was unprepared for. So I think all
along it really helped me a whole lot to do
that by plan, you know, each each week of the month,

(19:52):
or or at least primary things throughout the course of
the month year round. As far as it change, I
don't know that I would necessarily change anything other than
you know, as time goes on. Different schools require different
things at times. But one thing I would add more
than I think would be to hire a great person

(20:18):
that deals with technology. When when I try to do
anything technology wise, uh, it's a bus for me. Uh,
I'm I'm behind the door when they passed out that
that technology brains. So I want to I want a
good person. To me it's even it's the way things
are today, is enough value to hire that person like

(20:39):
an assistant uh coaching position. He can promote your program
with all the social media, do the film for your practices,
daily filming.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
You name it.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
That's I think that's what I would add to the program.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's a really good point. I think guys are doing that,
and uh, I think I think there's gonna be more
and more of it. I wanted to add this too
when I transition between jobs I had. I couldn't get
it all done, so I reorganized it a little bit
and I worked left or right what I thought was
most important, what was least important?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (21:16):
And you know, I love what you said about it
gave you more time with your family. I just had
this conversation with Trosper last night. You know he's helping
it UK and I said, you know, Troshpora, if you'll
invest time in being organized, it's actually going to create
time for you. But you know you've you gotta, you've
got to do that. Uh right. You know I appreciate
your answer, Coach, And uh, I tell you what if

(21:38):
a young guy, uh either set it up, get a
copy of coaches I've like I said, I've done something
that's modified. But man, you really need that these days
and there is a lot going on. I wonder what
you thought about this though, Coach. In season is actually
become easier because in season you do your practice schedule

(22:00):
and you sort of just do you just goat your team,
But I've seasoned. Take a look at that list you've got.
You've got a ton of work to do that. Really,
there's nobody standing there making you do it. You sort
of got to be self disciplined.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
To do it right, right, So absolutely.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yes, sir, Right, I'll be quiet, Chuck, you go ahead,
you got the next one.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, sam Ay, what do you think about you know,
obviously the Damibel program. You put your heart and soul
into that Damville program and building it to an elite level,
and it's kind of falling on some hard times. What
do you think about the present state of the Damville
football program and do you think that it.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Ever could get back to where you had it at
one time?

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Well, that's a good question. As far as the state
of the program now, that's pretty bad, very disappointing. My
opinion has gotten that way because there's been so many
administrative changes over the past several years, especially your superintendents.
The leader of the system had so many different superintendents

(23:04):
since since I left, and that's one of the reasons
I did leave, because the superintendence was changing all the time.
Principals open, you know, revolving door board members. It just
wasn't a good mix for now. That's not to say
they all that way, because that's that's not not would
not be correct. But it's to say that that's how

(23:27):
it got started. I believe, I wholeheartedly believe that your
football and your basketball programs, or the front porch of
the school, and somewhere along the way Danville lost that.
I don't I can't, you know, put my finger on
and say exactly when it started happening. But I know again,

(23:49):
you know that that starts at the top. Can you
get it back? I think it's possible, but it's going
to take It's going to take some work. It's going
to take the right people. Ronnie Vallor, that's a superintendent
there at Damvill right now, played for me. Uh back
in eighty eight, good football player, played linebacker.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Tough guy, went to the army, you know, worked his
way up. I think sergent major. I think that's what
what he became in the army. He knows how to
do it. It's just gonna take time. Uh And and
I hope you know he's able to do it. It
takes more than just one guy, obviously, but it's got
to start with him. He's gonna have to go. I

(24:37):
think he's gonna have to go out and recruit the
next coach. When the Davil job opened up, they recruited me.
I didn't apply for the job. They knew what they wanted,
and I'm not so sure I wanted to go there
when they when they came to me, Honestly, I turned
it down three separate times. Uh, But they kept coming
back to me, and they came to Arnesburg and sit

(25:00):
down with me, the chairman of the board and the
superintendent at that time, Jay Menahan, and told me why
I needed to come, and they convinced my wife.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
And after they convinced her, well Rescoe.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
So I think I think they got to go recruit
the right person and not just wait to get resumes.
Now that's not to say Frank Parks is there now
is not doing a good job. I don't know Frank.
I haven't seen Damvill play. I don't know what he's
what he's dealing with day to day. I know he's
got a big battle, a tough battle, so uh, I

(25:36):
wish him all the best, but I think it's tough.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
I think you got to live in Damble.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
I think if you've gone to coach at Danville High School,
you butter live in Damble. Okay, now you don't. That's
not necessary for every job, you know, and every job,
every job is different, every job has exceptions. Uh.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
But I think you've got to get in those homes.
That's the way it is.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
But I think you've got to get there, and the
people there's got to know that you care about them.
You you get them to know that you care about them,
then you you can do a lot of things. But
it comes down to, uh, you can't worry about what
other people think. Other people think or they get the
program back the way it needs to be.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
And it comes down to you either want it or
you don't. And to me, that's that's simple. And I
hope I think uh Ronnie Valor would get it going.
And I just hope people are patient and realize it's
you know, it didn't didn't falter overnight and certainly not
going to come back overnight. But there's enough athletic talent
that they still have walking those buildings, you know. And

(26:47):
I think the right guy getting in there and getting
with those feeder programs and getting them and learning the
heart of the community and all.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
I think you can get it back.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
You know. If you want to decline to answer, you can't, Okay,
But I'm also here. Uh. I think it started going
downhill when Bob Roland left.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
That's too And you're not putting on the squad at all.
I would I would say that Mesley and the superintendent
followed him was good lady. Uh and and and I
you know, I was happy with her, But then I
knew that she wasn't gonna stay there very long, okay.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
And little Birdie told me what was going on, so
I knew she was gonna step on and with her
career and the things that that she was doing at
the time. Uh, the lady was and I had no
problem with her. Not she continued what Bob had gone,
all right, But then after her is when things really
started taking a nose, diy. And that's exactly uh what

(27:48):
you said, David. If Bob Rowland was still there, I
would still be there. Honestly. I would never have left.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
Yeah. Yeah, they might be kicking me out, but I
wouldn't left them all.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
It does started the top.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
If you're superintendent if they if they, if they're not
all in on having it at an elite level, then it's.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Really not going to happen.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Right, Yeah, that's right, David.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
All Right, So, olks, you ran a variety of offenses
and defenses well over a very successful career. Looking back
on it, which offense and defense you think was the
best one.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
The ones I had the best personnel. Uh, that's a
tough question. That's a good question. But honestly, yeah, when
I had the best personnel. But again, you have to
adapt your offense to your personnel. I think, uh we
did that over time. For me, David always felt I

(28:50):
needed the run option as part of my offensive element.
We're going to run some kind of an option game. Okay,
people today called r p O s. I'm up talking
about that kind. I'm talking about down the line, dive
pits or keep you know kind of kind of deal.
And so that's why I was in a split back

(29:11):
beer when I was at Anderson County. Uh, and when
I was at Callaway County, we did slip back beer.
We did I back bear there. I wanted an option.
I wanted to stress the field horizontally. I wasn't that great.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
As far as with the passing game, all I want
to do is play action, but I wanted to make
you stop the run. If you didn't stop us on
the run, we was gonna win. Bogain wishbone t verer
kind of kind of stuff we did at dani Well
did a lot of unbalanced in the years that uh
I played against you, David and against Chuck and then

(29:46):
we did a lot of unbalanced at the time. I
think that's really good. Put slow stress on the defense.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
We did the pistol beer when when you know, we
when our personnel dictated that we really need to make
some change, we did the wing tea and ran midline
and inside and outside of eer. When we was in
the wing tea, ran some wing tea place. Wasn't just
a wing tee offense. We ran shotgun zone triple with
wishbone power. Really really enjoyed doing that. There's only two

(30:21):
offenses during the twenty five years or two looks during
twenty five years I was at Damvile that we didn't
run some type of option game. One period of time
was we was in a double tight double flanker or
double tight with trips and one back in the backfield.
We ran inside zone, outside zone, and counter trait. We
ran three plays and we were really good at and.

Speaker 7 (30:45):
We did that cause personnel.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
And then in the early two thousands, we got into
the air raid a little bit because I had a
kid that felt like I throw the ball. We did that,
I felt like we were getting soft. So I put
the Wishbone power game in with it, and we did
a little bit of both.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
And after we did that, you know, we took off again.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
We we quit being so soft when we when I
put the Wishbone in it, because my guys, you know,
like a lot of high school teams had to play
both ways, well, we were we were kind of soft
when we practice on offense because were throwing.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
The ball around a lot, and we weren't doing a
lot of banging.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
And and I just I just felt like, you know,
when those guys slipped over and played defense, we weren't
doing a lot of banging over there either. So I said,
were three weeks into the season, I put the Wishbone
power in along with the air raid.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
And we got a lot better, a lot faster, you know.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
And uh, because then we'd stand up when we'd bang
bang his with you then. But prior to that, we
weren't doing so much. So all been about three or
four years. Uh we we ran the option and uh
all those times that was then slid back, I back, wishbone, pistol,
all that kind of we ran elements of the options.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
It was inside there, it was outside.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
There is a lot of time midline with that midline
belly all option game. And uh, I know some of
our toughest games we had that we played competitively was
against Bullcannon when Chuck was there, and and uh we
did all a lot of that wishbone unbalanced and ran
the option stuff in Uh, it was it was a war.

(32:24):
But uh, you know we were able, uh you know
to run the ball a lot when we did that.
When we did it, uh going against Chuck and it
was tough running, but you know, we just I felt
like when we had that element, people had to prepare
for us differently than they did everybody else.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
So that's why we did it. Uh.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
As far as defense, you know, we ran. We was
in thirty four, the fifty probably my favorite, and then
uh uh we was in the four four four while
I was in the fifty three. When I was at
Callaway County when nobody was hardly throwing involved in So
we just put everybody up there in the Split four

(33:09):
when I was at Anderson County. So we've been been
in different ones. Like you say, I dare to be
different when I was at Anderson County, So that's why
we did the split four.

Speaker 7 (33:17):
And uh, my.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Favorite overall probably defensively would have been to fifty or
maybe the first year to thirty four now and you know,
and offensively, my my favorite offense, uh, as he asked David,
was probably when I did the shotguns on triple along
with wishbone power the last the two years I was

(33:39):
an assistant from Mark Piece there at Anderson County. That
offense we were doing then and really good, well thank you.
In the offense we ran it also against North Carolina
in the Border Bow and uh took care of that
deal pretty good. But I probably liked that more than
anything because it gave us a lot of option game.

(34:00):
It gave us a lot of gap schemes that I
that I really like that I think is good on people.
And uh, and it gave us some more of ability
to spread the field and throw the ball as well.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
So it was a good combination all the way through.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
That was a tough offense. And you had the Collins
kid and the Gillis kid in that offense. Good grief
and yeah, guys up front, thick of block too. That
was that. That was a stretch. Coach, that was a
tough one.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I know what he was running that wishbone and with
with those athletes he had over there, You're right.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I mean we couldn't prepare, prepare, prepare for it in
a week.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I would start, uh in the summer, uh putting working
on that because I knew I couldn't.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
Do it that week that that we had to play
You guys, it was pretty good.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
Coach.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
A coach appreciate you so much having you on.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
We really do appreciate you taking the time to spend
with us and our listeners.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
Well, thank you for having me. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, and again I mentioned this already, but conversations with
you really encouraged me to take the Mason and the
Anderson job, and uh man, I've been thrilled at both places,
but you You've always been good to me. And I said,
my dad thought the world of you, And Coach, again,
thank you so much for taking some time with us tonight.

(35:18):
We appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
Thank you, good luck both of you guys.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Thank you Sam.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Our next segment, which is a tough topic, and it's
by Joe Walters. Now is this Joe Walters from for Sales?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I think it is. I believe them are buddies, your pals.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
We went to We went to Florida our senior year
spring break.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Man.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
We were a good buddy. We had a great job.

Speaker 8 (35:45):
Against and get some stories on you spring Bank. That
was one awesome trip, it really. But anyway, Joe's question
is how does a new coach who.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Comes into a program that has not been successful for
several years rally the administration, the potential players and parents
behind his plan for the future, for future success.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
All right, well you want me to go first either way?
All right, I don't mind, let me take it. I
think you gotta work like crazy. I think you gotta
be grateful that you're there. I think sometimes when a
guy gets a job, he sort of acts like he's
doing them a favor that he took the job, And
I think that's horrible. I think you gotta respect and

(36:34):
honor the past players, and traditions. I think you gotta
stay focused on one play, one rep, one day at
a time.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
You know.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I think I think you sort of pick and choose
the times you talk about the big things. But you
gotta be careful about that, because when you take over
and things are bottom you talk about the big things,
people think you're nuts. I know, my middle school coach
at Mason County. I got the job at Mason County,
I start to about winning a state championship and he
hung in there with me, but he told me later

(37:03):
he said, I thought you were nuts, you know, for
even saying that. And you know, as time went on
he sort of understood. Well, I get where he's coming from.
But uh, I think I think you got to give people.
I think you got to stay focused on obviously on
the process, one day, one rep at a time. You know,
Sam mentioned this. I think you got to get organized

(37:24):
and get cleaned up. I think you've got to have
a visual that says we have a plan and we
know what we're doing. And uh, you know, one of
the things, you know, I won't say where, but one
of one of the indicators for me that I felt
like was a huge positive is in the transition early
somewhere about week one or two at a player stay.

(37:46):
To me, coach's place has never looked like this, and
I just said, well, it's gonna be a lot different
and just sort of left it at that. But I
think they need that visual that it is different. And uh,
you know, we mean business and we're going to do
our business at a very high level. So you know,

(38:06):
I mean, I love Coach Hart the things he said,
because he sort of answered this for us. He really did,
But uh, those are the main things I think I
would try to emphasize.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Yeah, and you you're actually an expert at.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
It, David, you really are. You've got it.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
You've got it successfully three or three or four times,
I guess. But anyway, I like your answer. My my
answer would be and I've done it a.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Few times myself as well. But I think the coach.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Needs to have a detailed plan that he believes in wholeheartedly,
and he needs to have the communication skills to sell
his plan to the stakeholders. And the stakeholders, of course,
would be the administration, the players, the assistant coaches, the parents,
and the community. And I think that's where you've really

(38:56):
excelled too, is you. You've got those great communications, but
you need to have the detailed plan. You need to
be able to to sell it to the stakeholders. I
think he needs to have I think he needs to
meet with each group individually, you know, not every person individually,
but the groups individually, so that he can resent this

(39:18):
plan and ask them for their help and loyalty. Because
you can't do it by yourself. You've got to have
plenty of people on board to help you. And I
think he needs to be clear in those meetings. You
know what their role should be. You know, you know,
if you're talking to the parents in the community, you
don't need any coaches, you don't need any assistant coaches out.

(39:41):
You know, you need to be clear about what their
role is and what their role should be. I think
he's got to be organized and confident because when he
has these meetings and uh, first pression, first impressions are
really important, and he need he needs to be organized
and clear.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
And and that's I think that's how he sells it.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
It takes a tremendous amount of energy and time, Uh,
you know, to turn a program around.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
It really does. I'm really impressed that I don't.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm really impressed
that you've been able to.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Do this, uh, and and doing it at Anders County
really at your age.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
It's pretty good because because because it does take a
great deal of energy. And I say that only because
I don't know if I could do it again.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
In terms of the energy and the time. And you
know that it takes to do this. Uh, there's there's
you know, so there's there's going to be very little
sleep and as you know now, you're getting very little
sleep until you get everybody on board and headed in
that right direction.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
And there's no timetable for that, so you know, it
could take a.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Year, it could take four five years to get this
thing the way you want it.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
I think he's got to be everywhere that's humanly possible.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
JV games, freshman games, middle school games, rec league games,
basketball games, baseball games. He's got to be everywhere because
he's got to be he got to be wearing his uh,
you know, football logo gear and promote this program in
person to the public and the community at all these

(41:24):
different events. He's got to show everybody that he's all
in and that he's committed and determined to make this, uh,
make this happen.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I had a conversation with one of my coaches about
this the other day, and uh, uh but I think
that you know, you mentioned that you've done this, You've
done this as well, this building thing. I've really enjoyed it.
It's hard, I've enjoyed it. But I really I like,

(41:58):
I think our coaching tree is really it's sort of
a great tree for building programs, you know, going back
to coach French and you know, and I'm biased towards
my dad, but I just I think I think that, Uh,
I think part of what has made our coaching tree
successful is that we've had to build. You know, Emma

(42:19):
likes to tease me. She says, uh, Dad is a
huge ground up guy, which is really her sort of
a dig of Dad loves to take really hard jobs
and we think he's crazy. But uh, but I think
that that really, I think that's a great foundation for coaching.
And then I think it pays off down the road.
And so I see guys like William Harris and Chris

(42:40):
Crawley Goodman, I think they're gonna be really good coaches.
And part of it's going to be because they've had
to learn how to build. It's just it is a
you know, I always go back to this. When I
was at Paris and those cats knew football. We would
work outside backer reads and it was real simple. I said, hey,

(43:01):
when the tailback steps flat, you go kill him. It's
option done. That's it. I mean, that's all I had
to do. Man at Mason, at Mercer, at Anderson County.
You got to drill that stuff over and over and
over again. And then when they're struggling with it, you
got to try to You got to work on that drill.

(43:21):
And I just here's the thing. If you love coaching football,
I think you're gonna love building because building a program
is like drinking water out of a fire hose on
full blast. I mean, like you said, you're not gonna sleep,
there's so much to do. But if you love coaching football,

(43:43):
you know, I mean, if you love coaching football, go Bill,
because you'll you'll have more than enough work to keep
you busy.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I agree, you got to do a lot of coaching
because you know, there's not too many jobs open that
have great athletes, so you don't have to coach real
hard yeah, the ones that are open are the ones
that need, uh, that need a lot of coaching going on.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
So yeah, I had an assistant I won't get into
names here, and I got a kick out of it though,
but we were working on our down block and he
had been in a more high profile, successful program. He
wanted to step at a forty five degree angle and
I used to tease him, might say, listen, man, I said,
I'm the king of bad football. I said, we had
to step flat or we're not going to get there.

(44:29):
After about six weeks, he came back to me. He said, Coach,
maybe we got to look at that flat step again.
I said, no kidding. I said, let's take a look
at it. And you just it's just it is. It's
a great It's a huge challenge, but managed rewarding and
and you know, I always go back to this boy.
I learned a lot of football with you and Jack

(44:51):
and coach French Ay. Jack was at my game Friday night.
He was at my game. I had a blast and
to visit with him. But uh, I learned a lot.
I think I learned a lot because we had to
coach our tails off. Now we had great kids that
played hard. We had two or three that had some talent,
but we were like dogs.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
We had to coach details details.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Yes, yes, we sure did. And but I think that
was a that was like a learning lad for how
to coach. I just think that I think it was awesome.
So I better be quiet. Listen, you ready to go
Game of the week? The week? All right? So we
got Bethlehem versus Washington County. I'll go first. Washington County's

(45:37):
got a new head coach and Adam Smith. They're led
by quarterback John Tate Smith and Uh, I think it's cool.
Washington County's really done well, sort of staying in the family.
Jimmy Reid was replaced by his assistant Lee glass Cock Eric.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing this thing correctly. Sagreasy

(45:58):
uh played for Lee uh. And then Adam is the
son of Larry Smith, who I believe was your teammate
at the University of Kentucky or it was Jeff Smith brother.
And you know, Charlie, their principal, played for you. Charlie
is the principal at Washington County. But I think they're

(46:20):
a little young upfront right now. I think John Tait
is a really good quarterback. I think I might give
the Bethlehem the edge right now this week, but uh,
I think Washington County is definitely on an upper trend
right now. And I'm glad we had it for the
game of the week.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah, and we talked when Sam was on.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
UH we were talking about, you know, uh, building the program,
getting going in the right direction. Well, Charlie Cox Is
it would be a great principal to do that with
because Charlie played football, he knows football, he coached football,
and I've got some good Charlie Cox stories if we
ever get time to tell though, But I do have Bethel.

(47:03):
The head football coach is Tim Maddingly. This is Tim's
This is coach Mattingly's first year.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Now.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
He made his mark.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
As a longtime head football coach at Central Harden High
School and he did a great job.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
He did an outstanding job at Central Harden.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
And I get now Bethelm has had some success and
I think he'll continue that success and I think that
he can possibly even take it to another level. His
record so far this year is three and one. Right now,
that he did have a loss last week to Lloyd Memorial.
He got beat there, but they're they're off to a

(47:39):
three and one start. They have, you know, the guys
that are leading the way for him in the quarterback
Jack Brady, and he's off to a good start.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Top rusher is Ryan West.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
And their top receivers as are Nicholas Osborne and Caleb Maddingly.
And as I said, I think, uh, I think coach
Mattingley obviously knows what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
I think he'll get that.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I think he'll get it going. And I think that
Washington County is a little bit behind in terms of,
you know, getting that program where they want it. So
I think I think I would pick that of them
in this game.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I got you well, And I'm look, I'm full disclosure here.
John Tate Smith and Jack Bradley are both two of
my quarterbacks. So I love them both. I think they're
really good players, they're good boys, and uh uh you know,
I I'm I think Bethlehem's better right now. But I'm
really pulling for both those guys. And and I'm I'm
a big Tim Mattingley and Adam Smith fan. I mean,

(48:40):
I just that's the thing, getting old like you and
me are main we know a lot of people. I mean,
we're we're for everybody, you know. So I'll go ahead.
So the next one is we got Corbin and Frederick Douglas.
I'll let you go first on Frederick Douglas.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Okay, I got Frederick Douglass.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
They're head from coaches Nathan McPeek, and he's got a
great job, man, he really has.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
He's really got that program at an elite level.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Last year in twenty twenty three, he was this is
the last three It wasn't the last three year, three
years of accomplishments at Frederick Douglas.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
That he's had.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
In twenty twenty three he was the semi finals. I
think he lost to maybe Trinity or I can't remember
who he lost too, But he.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
Was in the semifinals in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
In twenty twenty two, he was the state champion in
five A and in twenty twenty one he was a
state runner up in five A.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
So he's really got this.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Program, you know, at an elite level, and they're well
thought of and well respected across the state.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
You know, I think he does an outstanding job of coaching.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
In his record so far this year is two and two,
but he's has a tough schedule. Now he everybody in
you know that that that that that's high that's high profile.
He opened the season with a win over Bowling Green,
which you know probably is a heavy favorite to win
five A this year, and he was able to knock
them off. Phin, He's lost to Trinity, He's lost to mcmanuel,

(50:17):
two really good programs. Then he just you know, uh
killed takes Screek last week. So he's off to a
two or two start. He schedule is not getting any
easier playing Corbin. Corbin is a you know, a great program.
They've had really had a lot of success over the
last several years. His top performers uh are Jackson Strautman
at quarterback, his top runner rusher is uh to Corey Talbert,

(50:42):
and his top receiver is Averyon Schanault.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
So, uh, he got some real good athletes, some real
good players. And if I'm picking then I'm.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Picking h Frederick Douglas because every time I don't pick
Frederick Douglas.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
They texas me and gets on my butt about it. Well, hey,
I've got Corbin. They've got a new head coach, Luke
Salmon's who's been the head coach at Lawrence and Cavill Midland.
They're led by quarterback cade Elam who so far is
sixty one of seventy eight passing eight tds in eight

(51:21):
hundred and forty one yards in three games. That's not
too bad. Luke's son Mason, who's also a really good quarterback.
And I've got to work with Mason some and got
to work a little with Jackson at Douglas. Mason starts
on defense. I just bring that up because we went
through it here. Man. That's tough change in high schools,
in the middle of high school. It's tough. But sounds

(51:43):
like Mason's hanging in there, and I sure wish him
the best. Their defense is led by Jonah Mohan and
Cam east Step and Cam is averaging one hundred yards
per game receiving as well as being a leader on defense.
So I think Corbyn's got a really good, good team.
I do think this, though I would give Douglas besides

(52:06):
the fact that I think obviously Douglas is very good.
I just think luc is early in his transition. I
think Corbin in November is very is gonna and they're
still good. They're three and oh it's not like they're
not good. But I just think that Douglas right now
with the continuity has got an edge over Corbyn where
they've got the new coach, and I think I'd go

(52:28):
with Douglas, but I definitely think Corbyn is somebody that
will Corbyn will be be a very difficult opponent in November.
And uh, that's why we that's why we picked this game.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Yeah, yeah, it ought to be a really good game.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
It should be.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
I think another game is South one and Manuel this week.
It's gonna be a really.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Good That is a crazy good game. That is a
crazy good game.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
So, hey, David, we've had a man. We had a
great show to night.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Sam did an outstanding job of for for our listeners.
If you really want to learn some football, you really
need uh you know you well, I guess you're listening
to if you listen to me now, but I think
you learned a lot, you know from Yeah, Sam's contribution
to the show.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
He did a great job.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Hey, he he didn't leave any diet there. He did.
He dieded every iron, crossed every tea when he coached,
and you really can see that as he coming out. Hey,
I want to throw this at you r p A
k r P I came out this week and we've
talked a lot about r P I and I don't
want to go down that road today, but I do

(53:35):
want to say this. Some of those numbers are are
are are really sort of fascinating right now and uh,
you know by November and may be very different and
look good. Uh. But I would say here's where I'm
going with this, and we may disagree, and I know
you don't go in all this, but I think if
you look at the numbers today, I think it might

(53:57):
not make a bad argument for the cow preps are
with that, with the out of state being factored in
and things like that. Now you know, I know I
haven't looked at it. I don't. Yeah, they get take
take a look at it. Hey, let me go ahead
and mention this too. Next week our guests will be
Luke Salmon's from Corbyn, their new head coach, and h

(54:21):
our tough topic, which is really good after coach Arps
shared that list because, uh, I tell you, if a
guy were ever going to resign or retire from coaching,
he needs to do it on January first, because when
you look at the amount of work that you're gonna
have to do to get ready for a season. It's

(54:43):
there's a lot there, and the thing is, there's nobody
there making you do it. If you don't do it, it
ain't gonna get done. But here's William Blair's who we
scrimmage Madison Central. He's got a dog on good football team.
William Blair is an excellent football coach. Should coaches receive
more compensation since their jibs had become year round instead
of seasonal. I'm looking forward to hearing your answer on

(55:04):
that one. I know it'll be a good one. Yeah,
it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Yes, it's the answer, but I can give you more detail.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Hey David, Hey, if the listeners do stay on after
we sign off and listen to Mix's historical segment. It
is fantastic. I'm telling you fantastic. You will not be
disappointed if you listen to it. He does a great
job and we'll see you next week. Appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (55:33):
Yes, sir, Sports and in particular, high school sports, are
woven into the fabric of Americana. High school sports are
part of the DNA of communities across the country, and
that is certainly true in Kentucky fans know the stories
of the big names, but there are many names and

(55:53):
many stories that have been lost to history. This series
highlights those for gotten. He rose. There are stories from
every school, stories of the exploits of players and coaches,
but not many schools have stories about a teacher. For
ten years, in the nineteen sixties and early seventies, students

(56:15):
at Henderson County High in Henderson, Kentucky, and mister Savaldi's
science classes were in the presence of football royalty, a
pro wrestling legend, and a spy all rolled into one.
Mister Sevalde was jumping Joe Savaldi Jumping Joe went to
high school in Michigan before going to Notre Dame to
play for New Rockney. Josephalde starred at fullback for the

(56:38):
Irish on the nineteen twenty eight in nineteen twenty nine
national title teams. He was also an All American. He
was kicked out of school when his divorce papers from
his secret wedding were leaked to the press. Josephaldi then
signed with Packers Bears. Fans were outraged, which led George
Hallis to invoke the Grange Rule, which said you couldn't

(56:58):
sign a player whose class hadn't graduated yet. The Packers
withdrew the contract and Savaldi signed with the Bears. Lambeau protested,
but the Bears were allowed to keep Jumping Joe as
long as they paid one thousand dollars per game fine
for every game Joe played in. Josephvaldi started in the
Bears' backfield with Red Grange and Bronco Nigirski. Following his

(57:21):
NFL career, Josephaldi became a professional wrestler, where he pioneered
the flying dropkit. He became the wrestling World Champion in
nineteen forty two. During World War II, the US government
asked Jumpin' Joe to become a spy because he spoke
multiple Italian dialects, was an expert in hand to hand combat,

(57:42):
and he knew Italian geography, including the inside of Mussolini's compound.
He assumed the identity of captured Italian captain Giuseppe de
Leo on two of his missions, and on his second mission,
he extracted Italian scientist Carlo Celosi from the country. The
book Cloak and Dagger devoted an entire chapter to the

(58:04):
saga of Jumpin' Joe. It was also made into a
movie and an NBC radio show. After the war, Josephvaldi
went back to pro wrestling, but due to arthritis, he
had to give that up. He had saved his wrestling
money because he wanted to go back to college and
he wanted to become a teacher. At age fifty five,

(58:24):
Jumpin' Joe Savaldi went from college All American, pro football
star and international spy to mister Sevalde, science teacher. He
taught at Henderson County High School for ten years. He
was asked why he didn't go into coaching at Henderson County.
His answer was he would only consider coaching a prison

(58:44):
team or an orphanage team. A coach of a prison
team would never have to worry about the alumni coming back,
and an orphanage coach never has to worry about the
parents bothering him. Jumping Jose Savalde football star, pro wrestling champion,
international spy, and science teacher. Joseph Aldy passed away in

(59:07):
January nineteen seventy four at his retirement home on the
shores of Lake Barkley in western Kentucky.

Speaker 10 (01:00:00):
The sun put the sun the sun and the people

(01:00:23):
thet thet the futt, the tod ft To fend to

(01:01:20):
doing different, fer to do assas