Coaches Office with guest Coach William Blair

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Coach David Buchanan.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Coach Chuck Smith, two legendary high school football coaches. This
is the Coach's Office, a behind the scenes look at
Kentucky high school football.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Welcome to the Coach's Office, behind the scenes with Chuck Smith.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
And David Buchanan.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
This is season four, Episode eleven, eleven weeks into this thing.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm Chuck Smith.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm joined by co host David Buchanan, our podcast editor
storyteller Mikey Oakham. Your YouTube version of this podcast is
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We got another great show with an excellent guest coach. Tonight,

(01:15):
we have William Blair, the head football coach of Madison
Central High School, to discuss his football team. You know,
talk about being able to drop some names with your
coaching tree. Goodness sakes, he's he's worked with three Hall
of Fame coaches, Okay, three Hall of Fame coaches, and

(01:38):
it's it's it's it's quite a coaching tree to be
able to, you know, to tell people.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
And I guess when he turns that resume in, he don't.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Have any trouble getting people's attention here in Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
But we'll bring William on in just a second.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Our tough copy is from Bluegrass Preps Ruined sixty six
and guys going both ways. How do you set up
practice through the week? Well, I know I should be
an expert on that because I've always had and I
know David has two We've never had the luxury of,
you know, having I've been able to patune the team.
So anyway, we'll get to that in just a second.

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Games of the week. We got Bowling Green and Franklin County. Well,
that's going to be a good one, Sarah and Middlesbrough
and oh, Larry Frinch is in there and that'll be
a good football game.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
A little bit about William before.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
We bring him on, Okay, As I said, he's the
head football coach of Madison Central High School. He's currently
got his team six and three. This is his third
season as the head football coach. He made it to
the second round in twenty twenty three, and he made
it to the third round in twenty twenty four. Twenty

(02:54):
eleven was William's first head football coaching job. He was
the head football coach coach of Trumbull County for one
season there, very young coach. He was there at a
very young age. He only stayed one season, and in
twenty twelve and twenty thirteen he was an assistant at
Boyle County for Larry French and then when Larry left

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and went to Southwestern High School, William went with him.
From twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen, He's also coached with
Tom Larky who he played for, and then.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
The Hidden Gym there.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Was Tony Tony Taylor was on that staff with coach Larky,
and that's his first Hall of Fame guy that he's
coached with. And then in twenty twenty one and twenty
twenty two he coached with Mike Cocomb, and Mike Cocumb
was the head football coach of Madison Central. And then

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of course he coached with Larry who's going to be
a Hall of Famer and at Boyle and then Mike
Holcomb who's going to be all Hall of Famer from Breathed,
and then but he coached with Winn. He coached with
him when he was at Madison Central. So three Hall
of Fame guys on his resume pretty good resume. David,
you want to bring William on?

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, I am. I'm excited to have him. And you
know another mutual connection. My son in law was playing
at Boyle when William was coaching there, and he stole
me by Josiah Robinson. He said, he said he's stand
next to coach Blair and that William would call the
plays of the other team when they broke the huddle,

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like by the time they got to the ball, and
he said it was crazy because it's like he was
always right.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
He knew the play so well.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
He Coach Blair's very intelligent and he's one of those
guys that I think he's got some unorthodox approaches that
are really helping him to be successful. So I know
he's not going to share all of them, but maybe
we can push him a little bit on these tip
offs and maybe even say something will help our coaches out.
So Chuck, I'll turn it over to you. But William, thanks, Hey,

(05:05):
thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
We're glad to have you.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
I'm I'm tickled to death to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
This is awesome.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I you know, you talk about two Hall of Fame coaches.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I'm getting to get to sit and spend the evening
with this is pretty cold.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, we appreciate you being on, William. My first question
for you is Matson Central was not your first head
coaching job. Most people might think it is, but it wasn't.
Trimble County was. And what did you learn from that experience?
I know you probably wasn't even thirty years old, was
you when you took over that Tremble County job?

Speaker 1 (05:36):
No, I was.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
I was twenty eight, twenty eight. It was a it
was a situation. I just started teaching when I was
twenty five and my wife was at grad school in Louisville,
so I was up there. Back then in the two thousand,
you know, it was hard to find jobs.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
You had to go and yeah it was.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
It's not like today, you know, so I rock and
you can find a teaching job now. But up got
up to Tremble County and there was a guy named
Mike Jenton from Lincoln County. He was a he was
a really good football and he hired me on to
teach middle school with the caveat you got to coach
my middle school team. So, you know, back in the
you know, I don't think many teachers are told that

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these days, well if you want the teaching job here,
you got to coach too. And uh so there was
only fifty boys in the eighth grade and I had
thirty of them playing football. And the next year the
coaches the coach left and took took another job, and
the high school job opened, but they only had six
boys returning, and so all of the middle school kids like,

(06:39):
come coach up there. So that was my I was
kind of like, all right, you know, because otherwise the
program would have fell in, and Trimble has been one
of those programs. It's in and out and uh it's
a good place, wonderful place.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
But uh, I got really humbled upfair.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
I said, they had me tough football's two uh instant
flat hands and and a thing of wasp pray. And
I looked, I said, two footballs. I said, well, these
cans for what. You got to roll and foot the
gold post onto the field. It was the baseball field,
and there was a farm next door. He let us

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play on part of the farm field. So you had
to roll the goal post up and field tires up,
roll and get rid of all the wasp and that
that was you know, you measured your field out. So
you know, coming from rock Castle, which you know, great program,
and being there working with them even at a time
down at Clay County as a defensive coordinator out the facilities.

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So I got humbled real quick with that. And but then,
but I tell you what, you know, when you played
really competitive football, you know, it's it's you know, kids
are they want to win, they want to do hard
in the weight room, they want to do you know,
they don't really want to develop. And at Trimble County,
these kids just truly played the game because they just

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loved football. They didn't have any ambitions of playing in
any more.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Football outside of high school.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
And so I kind of learned to enjoy it. But
the competitive side of me and I was like, well,
my wife got doing grad school and the job opened up,
A freshman head coaching job opened up at Bull Counting.
I sent every email, I called it. I got Tony
Taylor to give Chris Mason a call, and I mean
I was down there well, and I know they were

(08:24):
thrilled to get you that.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
So we had that freshman that we won two ball games.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
I had. I had twenty eight freshmen and three seniors
and two sophomores, one junior and we still won two.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Boss.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
That's pretty impressive. That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Hey, so William, you're the best tip off coach I've
ever met. Tell our listeners what are tip offs? Why
are they important? And look, I know you're not going
to give up all your secrets and that's cool, cool,
But is there one thing you could tell us that
would make a coach better at getting tip offs.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
From their opponent? So I know that's three parts. What
is it?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Why are they important? And then give us one thing
that if a coach is listening, he can get better
at tip offs?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
So a tip off is you know, knowing what play
or who's getting the ball, you know what the other
team is getting ready to do, you know, you know understanding,
you know, oh this is a past player, is going
to be a run play, and there will be something
that you can see.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
And there's basically two or three ways that I've done it.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
Is one just looking at the kids out there, their
body language. You know, you know the old adage, Oh
if you if they're put their hand down and you
see the wider the knuckles, Well they all wear gloves now,
So that one's out of the door.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
So uh.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
But but you know it's really you know, with these
offenses and things that people have today, there you you
really have to look at the personal in formation even more. Uh,
And so that that's the two big ways of seeing.
You know that what are they doing, what's their scheme?
And you know the process of elimination where they can't

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run this play because the wing is over here and
the back is on the same side.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So you can mark out that play and so forth.
But for me, uh, when it.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
Gets to the nitty gritty of some things, I'll give
an example. I'll give an example, two examples. Their quarterbacks feet.
You know, looking at quarterbacks feet, they can tell a lot,
so a lot about the quarterback's feet. And then you know,
whether we know how their positioning their feet, what type

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of offense are Then you know, if they're pushing their
left foot back, it means they got to turn and
get out left or right under center and then shotgun,
you know, or they got their left foot up or
right foot up, you know, so that they don't get
in away of the ball carrier or something like that.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And then.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
One of the other things is is advice for all
these coaches is, don't huddle may it'll make black Bomby
or something.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
I don't like huddle assists where they break all your
stuff down for you. To me, that was what I
did on film with coach Sailor for I scouted for
three years. Uh, I didn't coach a high school football
game for three years, but I was a coach, and
I you know, i'd watch film. I'd break everything down
first second down formations and so forth. A lot of coaches,

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you know, that's just too much time. So they pay
it for the huddle assists. And then and then they
do the snap detect and they don't watch him break
from the huddle. They just wait for him to get
on the ball snap. I said, you're missing all kinds
of stuff. So I, you know, I've got some young
guys on the statu I go, don't use the snap detect,
watch him break the huddle. Well you mean by that?
And so like, here's here's two examples of you know

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why you need to watch the ball when they break
the huddle. There's a coach out there. He may be retired.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 (11:53):
I'm not gonna give it as he was notorious when
i'd scout, he would go. He would call the play
to the quarterback. Then he would go down past the
first down marker about five or six yards.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
And I know what's because he would throw the ball
over and try to get passing the fence.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
Every other time he just takes.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's awesome.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
That's how you knew they was throwing the ball. And
then this one was years and I think I was
at trembling this one.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
There was a kid when.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
He'd break the huddle, he he touches, he'd double tapped
his chests and went up to the air the ball.
You know, and these kids are just so quirky about that.
You know, you can see all kinds of things. It's
just their mannerisms, their body language. You know, if a
wide receiver is huffing and puffing and he's he's rolling

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his shoulders coming.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Out of the huddle, you know, like, oh we're we're
on the ball. You know, that type of stuff.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
But but going back to where I got all those was,
you know, from Tony Taylor. We would watch him and
it was awesome to watch film with and and uh,
you know, he send a scout out and I would
do it by myself for years, and you know, my
my girlfriend and my wife now would go with me
and she'd just be bored out of her mind.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
This is before you could sit on cell phone. She
actually had to sit there, so I'd have to give
her job. That was our date night for you know,
I knew she was a keeper.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
I knew she was a keeper when I went to
make wand Virginia, West Virginia and she went with me
to watch a ball game. I think we were watching
like green Up for somebody, but Adam and about that,
and so even today, you know, when I watch a
play and I worked with those my younger coaches, and.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
They're like, what are you looking for?

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I'm going I'm looking for something that's not supposed to
be there.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
You know.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Uh, that's a tip off for me is is you know,
what do they do and what what is not?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
What is not the same?

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Like why is that guy moved here? You know, why
is that stance different? You know, those those type of things.
So but I really do. My biggest advice is don't
rely on somebody else to break your film down. If
you want to be good at you want to be
a good tip off, don't use the huddleist this and
don't do snap detects. Watch it from the very beginning,

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from the time the coach calls it in to whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
So yeah, that's gonna take a lot of time. So
a lot of people aren't going to do that.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
You know what, Well, I tell you what.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
They wouldn't drive the burger board down in London to
sit and meet with five different coaches to get film.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I sat down there.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
Forty dollars you know, gas money. And then while I
sit there and I eat breakfast, lunch and dinner waiting all.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
These they wrapped up. Not have them sitting there. It's
even worse. Didn't know who was coming.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
You're like, oh well, yeah, hey, well let's let's move
over to offense. William.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know what tell us about your offense and what
was the throat of the thought process in selecting that offense.
I know when my was there, y'all were spread through
it everywhere that you've kind of went gone to, uh
do you call it the flex bone?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah? And and what what's what was the
process of coming up with that? And you know, you know,
tell us about that.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
So we you know, you the one thing about working
and having a program is you got to look down
the line, you know, you got to look at the
fifth sixth grade, and so I had three feet of
middle schools coming in. So with coach Hokum being there
two years, I invested in a lot of time being
down there and seeing the type of players we we
could possibly have. And we just didn't have a big

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enough size coming up and necessarily wide receiver players, like
we had a bunch of running backs coming up. And
my concern was is we're in that district with Douglas
and Station. And I sat there and I, you know,
I hired.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Tyler come in because he's a he's a great offensive mind.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Uh guy and him talked a lot about it, and
and it was it was difficult because now you're going
athlete for athlete year and year out, and uh, you know,
Douglas is just they They're just Douglas. They They've always
got that one guy's just a little bit better than yours.
So offensively, you know, what I wanted to do was

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we had a really smart quarterback coming up with Carson Hurts.
It's really tough, he's a wrestler. And we had a
bunch of running backs and so coach Hart Sam Harp
talked about being actually on a podcast about three or
four three years ago. I think one of y'all the

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podcast said you got to do something different, and you know,
I wanted to be different, and I talked to my Princeville.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I said, we're not.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
You're gonna hear about we're not going to throw the
ball this and that, we're not gonna We're not gonna
play an offense that you see on Saturdays and Sundays
unless you're unless you go to one of the academies.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
And for us, it has allowed us to to really
control the game.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
By being able to take away the one on one
matchups in that now your best player is a defensive end,
we can't block him, and if we double team and
your linebacker's gonna kill us.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
So what we decided is we're not going block him.
We're gonna reading.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
And Aaron Stepp is really a great offensive line coach
and he's he lives down in Maria, and he came
up and me and him sat and talked for a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
And he's kind of walked us through on how to
do it. And then.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
University, the D two school down in seriously Arty if
you get to watch them, that's a if you're a
true football coach, you just love it because it's so technical.
It's so much technique. You're just not fine on pure athleticism.
I mean those got and it's physical that you've got
to be physical.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You gotta be tough.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yeah, that discipline and and for us that all those
things check the box. You know, Corey, Corey Chapman does
our weight room. He's he's uh does a great job.
He does a defense and are we're trying to build
a program based on toughness and discipline.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, getting in the.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Flex bone and the wing te type style offense goes
right with that and and the same way it carries
over the defense. Uh me and coach hoping when he
got there, he goes, uh, he would have offensive practice
and then all right, you got fifteen minutes on defense.
So so but no, it was good, you know, but

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I think for our guys there last year was the
beginning of it. We really didn't get into much of
the option on that was really you know, focusing on
the zone dives and the traps. But this year many
they soaked it up because this is a different This
option is it's not like the old school, remember the

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Titans veer. It's it's a lot of different tags. It's
just like a spread offense, you know. You know, instead
of tagging her route, now you're tagging blocks, you know, yeah,
and so, and it's based on what the defense does.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So we go up.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
We worked in and do a no huddle, and we
line up and and our guys really on it and
figured it out and said, man, this is this is
all right. And you know, four hundred and fifteen yards
rushing four hundred yards game and that's not too bad.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Pretty really good.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, very Just a side note, did you run this pass?
Coach Hokum that you was going to run that ball
instead of thrown it?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
That he he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
He goes, well, now he goes. Now, when I was
at Breadthay County in the eighties, we ran the ball.
We were not.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Oh that's good, that's good. That is you know.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
I would scout him in the mid nineties when he
was at Breathon and it's like he would be in
that shot and he would get up three or four touchdowns.
It it's like putting a genie back in the bottle.
He was back under center in the eye, run three
or four plays, get the game over and go home.
But it was it would be fun to scout him.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Speaking of Mike, you know you're an assistant for Larry
French and Mike Holcomb. What's one thing that you took
from each of them that you think has made you
a better football coach?

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well, both of them are are really good fathers and
husbands that you know, the the hours that you put
in as a coach, you've got to be able to
understand that you've got a life outside of football, and

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there's people that rely on you to be there for them.
And I got to see how coach French and Coach
Holkomb was with Debbie and Ms Connie. You know, when
coach Holcombe first got up there, his wife, you know,
she ended up having cancer and and I really you know,
he really leaned on aust coaches and pushed us. And

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since then, you know, I was like, man, you as
a head coach, I thought he was gonna come in
kind of tell us everything to do. Now he really,
you know, he he let the coaches coach and and
so that he could be be with Miss Debbie throughout
the week. But with coach French. Uh, I'm not as
as sarapus as he is. H guy's falling with him

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all the time. Oh, you call him up.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
He's terrible. I go wrong. He goes, Oh, we won't
be able to stop him. Oh he wins forty something nothing.
I go, what happened? He goes, I, you know our
guys just ate must have had a good lunch.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
But no, I was gonna say, you know why he's
so sour. It's PTSD from when I played quarterback for him.
He's never got over it.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
It was so it was so tough. He Oh, he
cracks me up. He would crack me.

Speaker 6 (22:02):
But I know I've been on the phone when he's
talking to you on the phone, he go, you know
there was some of those quarterbacks would come to your
camps and stuff, and I know he's just he go,
we're gonna have to d program them when.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
They get back. That's if he got that from Rain
and Webb. I know where that came from.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
But you know, but toughness from coach French. You know,
he he's all about doing it the right way. You know,
both of them. I found is like I'm I like
to be really organized so I remember the first you know,
time being down there at Southwestern. I really organized practice

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down five minutes and boom boom. And then Coach French goes, well,
if we can get if we get time to get
to that, but if we can't block our.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Field, go, we're gonna be there all day. That's that's
see him.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
But no that that, you know, with coach Holt or
I'm sorry, with Coach French bringing me on at Bull County,
he really exposed me to to meeting some great coaches
with Jeff Hester and and Chris I tell you what, uh,
Chris Mason elevated mind.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
You know, I've got so many that you know, on
top of.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
Coach Holk that I really admire, but Chris Mason, man,
he put me over over the top because he really
taught me more about fundamentals and techniques and and teaching
about that offensive line. And and that's what uh man,
I'm forever indebted to him. That that changed changed me
a lot and the way I do things. And then
Jeff Hester, you know, his his ability to to connect

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with kids that you know that that was awesome. That
whole experience over there. I mean, I think here's the
staff that I was on. I was with coach friends
Chris Mason, Jeff Hester, Phil Mason, UH Billy Goldsmith and
UH all Shoots Defense cornerated danebo for years, Jerry Perry.
Jerry Perry to stab those guys, And I was just

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starstruck the whole time. I foll these guys, you know,
and from my past as a player, you know, going
down to Jabez camp and seeing these guys and you know,
just just you know, it was just awesome. And that
was probably one of the greatest experiences. And so like
that's one of the things I get onto my young
coaches that they talked about being a head coach.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I go, I mean, go go find it, you know,
after you work here.

Speaker 6 (24:25):
Don't make a ladder move, but build yourself up, you know,
learn more, don't just pigeonhole you sometimes. But then when
coach Holkum, I mean, I learned how to be a
maverick that you know, that was.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
One of the things I go for.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
We do things, crazy things, you know, you know, I'm
all about fakes and trick plays and and things of
that nature. And and coach Hokum, I mean he's one
of those other guys like coach Hart be different, you know,
and I really that that was fun and he made it.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
He was a lot more fun to coach with.

Speaker 6 (25:00):
He would laugh, you know, he'd get me, he'd get
me tickled during the games.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know. Now, I got fired twice in one game
by Larry though our throat.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
So he fired me.

Speaker 6 (25:11):
After the after they fired me after they scored. And
he he looks to David. He goes, you got to check.
He goes, no, he goes, well, he better get his
acts straightened out right here. You know, Hey, talk about
those coaches. We did the All Star team in two
thousand and five. Billy Goldsmith and Coach Frinch were on

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our staff together, and they roomed together. They were real.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Gough and anyway, they love to tell the story. They's
got the lights out, and so they're in there and
Billy looks up.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
And I guess the students they put.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Those little stars up on the ceiling, and Billy's like, Whereterry,
there's stars on the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Coach Rich is like, Billy, the lights are out. Time
to go to sleep. He did, he did what he
did here, none of that.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
He's, oh my god, and I and I can't go
without talking about Coach LARKI. Yeah, So Coach Larky. You know,
we always called him the silent General. He was never
a very big voice or anything like that, but when
he spoke, we listened. But you know, something I've carried

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over is that that rock toughness in the weight room.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
And that's you know that that that weightroom. I that
is what changes your program. Believe in that.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
And so Coach Larky, you know, he pushed that weight
room and and keeping it simple and understanding you're that
you're playing for your community. And that's where I'm trying
to put some of these kids. All these kids, all
the individuality and things like that. Going back to this offense,
it's not just you know, a quarterback just doesn't get
to pick who he gets the ball to.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's based on a read. They have to work together.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
And and and come together. It's not about individualism. And
Coach Larky was great about about the community and and
that and so and Coach Okam and Coach French are
all about that.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
And so if there's anything I've learned.

Speaker 6 (27:13):
And I tell the young guys, uh there, you know
what I'm learning continuing is you got to be in
your community. You've got understand what's going on, and they
got to know who you are too. So when you
want something or need something, you know they they know
it's genuine. It's just not for uh a pony show.

Speaker 5 (27:31):
Yeah, he always shows up when he wants something. You
got to watch out for that. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, William, Uh, you've been a great guest and uh
came off to a good start, you know, getting ready
hit the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
We wish you all the luck in the world and
keep on keeping on.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
Well, I'm excited. Uh, you know we're going into this
knock on wood. You know, you always want to go
healthy and and and I'm excited to play another Hall
of Fame coach with coach Wallace on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Man, he's got a team.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
He does such a great and so you know that's
what this This is a great This is the this
is the time of year. My wife she goes, you know,
the code weather and a dreary I go, I love it.
This is my favorite time of years.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, ninety degrees. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah, man, I'm excited for you and you've done a
great job. And there's awful good things I had for you.
It's going to be super great job.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
William. Thank you guys, catch you Yeah, I appreciate you.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Part of the show, of course, is our tough topic.
We have another good question. It's from Bruin sixty six
off of Bluebrass Preps. Got going both ways? How to
get set up practice through the week.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Well, uh, we're gonna hit all three phases all four days.
Monday is punp block one thing that we've added and
we do it by position.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
They're not very long.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Periods, but every week we sort of fix the biggest
problem from the past Friday and then we look at
what's the number one thing we got to do this
week to have success, and we do that both sides
of the ball. We'll go perimeter team, offense, team defense.
We'll lotso spend a little more time defensive installed On

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Tuesday we do punt, kickoff and kickoff return first.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
That's more of a defensive day.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
We'll do a lot of defensive individual and group team
defense and we'll do we do a lot of third
and fourth and short team defense on Tuesday, and then
we come.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Back and hit it hard on Wednesday as well.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Offense will do perimeter we'll do it inside drill, and
then also on Tuesday, the last thing that practice is
at least on the field, is we'll do what we
call wind drill. We put the ball on the twenty
and we practice which we were really struggling scoring last week.
On Tuesday and Wednesday, we put the ball on the
twenty and we practice scoring against twelve guys because we

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just we had to get better at that.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
We were just really bad and needed to get better.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Wednesday will be pat block and then we'll also do
our goal line defense, our base defense, third and fourth
and short down, we'll do perimeter and inside outside drill.
On offense, we'll do team offense, and when things are good,
we'll go up and down the field. And that way,

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we worked the whole field and we worked the red zone.
But again I think this week we're gonna work really
hard on the red zone scored against twelve people because
we've got to get better when we're we've been we're struggling,
but we've been we've been better twenty to twenty and
we're not finishing drives. So we're going to try to

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work hard on finishing drives. On Thursday, will play a
scripted game.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
We get that done.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Our defense is gonna review all their stunts, tendency's main sets. Offense,
we do a lot of situational stuff in offense, but
we work that into the perimeter stuff team offense inside drill.
We try to work all of that into the normal
hearts of offense, whereas on defense is some cific third fourth.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Down period video. Tuesday video is third and fourth down defense.
We do it, then we go watch it.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Wednesday will video the team offense from the end zone
and end zone drill are inside drill, and then we'll
have huddle notes. Either send them out and if I
don't feel good about the guys watching them, then we're
gonna watch those.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
We're gonna watch Wednesday's video on Thursday before practice.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
So a lot, it's a lot that's gotta be organized
if you're gonna have a play in both ways, because
there's just a lot of little details you gotta hit.
And but as you said, you know, we don't have
the luxury of saying, okay you and you know you
what you gotta watch is this. Even if you can
divide it up eleven and eleven, you don't want to

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be in a situation where you know your ninth best
offensive lineman is starting.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, you want your six or or seventh one.
So you got to be able to rotate kids.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
And I think that's one of the lost arts of
coaching a smaller team, is I think how you rotate
players and how you manage that.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
I think it's a pretty big deal. Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's a real big deal. And I don't know if
I have a whole lot to add, you know, to
what you just said. You were a pretty thorough and
pretty detailed and obviously have put a lot of fault
in the organization and structure of practicing guys both ways.
As I said earlier, and I'll say again, I just
never had that luxury of having enough quality guys uh

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to to platoon. You know, I don't even know if
I would know how to set up a platoon practice,
because my whole career there's been playing kids both ways.
You've got to play your key players. You know, you
don't want to you know, you don't want to force
a pla a platoon if you have, you know, a

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great player that's only playing half of the game, you know,
because you are insistent upon platooning.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
You know, I don't think that would be smart, not
at the high school level. And you know what we
do basically, or I did basically kind of what you did.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
I focus on one side of the ball on Monday,
but still practice the other side of the ball.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
They don't get as much time.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
And then you flip that, you know, on Tuesday, and
then on Wednesday and Thursday, you just kind of split
the time. You know, even offensive defense, offensive defense, Uh,
they all they get some uh you know, some individual
and then they get some teamwork.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
I think it's it's hard on high school kids too,
if you want to skip a day.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Like all right, say on offense, it's all on Monday,
it's all offense, no defense, and then on Tuesday it's
all defense, no offense, so they skip the day. I
think it's hard on high school kids to kind of
get any kind of timing and and continuity, but you
know by by skipping a day. So I never believed

(34:32):
in that. I always had to hit a little bit
every single day of the week. I just say, you've
got to touch both offensive defenses four days a week.
And I think that's what you said you do as well.
I know Brandon, my son Brandon at South Warren. He he,
he does a great job with this, and uh, you know,

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his practices are so much cleaner and more efficient than
mine everywhere. But they do a really good job of
you know, playing key players both ways and and and
you know, it's really smooth. It's a smooth practice. You know,
it's snow bumps in the road and don't miss a beat.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I'm sure that he does have it really well organized.
I tell you.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Back when I was teaching and I had to teach
on Monday, and I couldn't really play and practice on
a Monday because I'm teaching a full old of classes.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
But I still do this now.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
Like our game script that we have for offense, if
there's a blue team next to it, that means we're
gonna running in team offense Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And then
on the inside drill it's a red or it's a
blue one, two or three. If it's a one, that
means we're doing it on Monday and Tuesday. If it's

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a two, it's Tuesday Wednesday. If it's a three, it's
Monday Wednesday. But that makes sure that we get it
all covered, and it's like you're just talking about being organized.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
If you're really going.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
To try to do this and do it the best
that you can, I think it requires a lot of
structure and a lot of preparation.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
And I will say something else to it.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
I think part of this goes back to for me,
you know, five A has been a different animal from
anything I saw at Mercer or Mason or Paris, especially
my district.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
It is tough.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
And one thing that I'm starting to realize too is,
you know, I might think in terms of okay, I
want to have one old line of one d line,
but personally, I think it's more physically demanding to play
on the defensive line the way that we play, to
attack and squeeze and cross face and granted a line
of scrimmage. So you know, not only have I got

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guys play in both ways, I've got to be strategic about. Okay,
that may be my starter at defensive tackle, but he's
played eight great eight snaps in a row against a
really good old line. I got to give him a
spell with two or three snaps from a good offensive
lineman and then get him back in there. And uh,

(37:09):
you know, I'm like you, I only know how to
do guys playing both ways. But I just think there's
a lot of little details that they're exhausting that you
but you've really got to you gotta, you got to
try to handle it.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Because yeah, you just really can't. You just can't turn
it loose and let it happen.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
No, I know, to speak on what you talked about, uh,
you know, uh, putting notes by your plays.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
I would do the same thing on defense.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I'd put as you know, a star by a play
that they run quite a bit of time, and so
we would rep that every day, excuse me, you know,
and the ones that didn't have a star, we'd hit that,
you know, maybe once or twice, you know, during the week,
and to make sure we got everything covered. But it
does it takes a lot of time to uh do

(37:58):
those types of things. Obvious, league, I don't think I
was as detailed as you are. You're you're pretty.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
It works out well. I mean, obviously you were, and uh,
I mean you won six state titles. But but also
though too, uh you know, I do the offense for us,
so that makes it a little different. I mean, I
would think Chris Mason and Chris Pardu were doing that
similar type of planning. Uh back when they work for you,
and uh, you know, I just you know that is

(38:29):
it's funny we joke about this, but like you'll teach
me about how I can pick the state championship games.
But I've never won a state championship. Well that's because
my brain can never stop. I've always got to keep working.
You've had six times you could X seven you get
excel and say, hey, I can relax a little bit
because you all want so. You know, you just just

(38:50):
always looking for a little thing that you can do
that might make you a little bit better. And uh,
I mean we're still uh hey, you know, like I
text you a question another night to get some help.
And we put in a couple of things today we've
never done in thirty three years.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
But I sort of like that.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
I like that I feel like we're continuing to evolve improve.
I don't want our team now. I still want to
be disciplined and play hard and sound. Yes, but I'm
okay if we look different than what we look like
five years ago, that's not all bad.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
And you know the other thing too, That's why I
like doing this podcast. I mean, every week I'm.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Talking football with you, I'm talking football with one of
the best coaches in Kentucky. I mean, it's really been
good to push me and make me evaluate what we're
doing in life.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
So you know, anyway, I've said enough about that.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Well, that's why you're as good as you are.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
You're always willing open to learn more and never being
satisfied with what you know.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
You want the best and that that that says a
lot for a co frank there.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Well, when you're sitting your teeth kicked in, you got
a little extra motivation to get better.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Just tell the three.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Well, you're in a program where you got to you
gotta crawl before you walk, so you're prey pretty low
and you got to build it up.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Hey, but I'm telling you we're we're better than it
looks we really are.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
And I know you and my family y'all not sure
what to think when I say that, But I'm telling you,
I think we're closer than it looks like we are.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I really do. But enough about that.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Let's switch gears and let's head over to the games
of the week. We got two pretty good ones.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
We got.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
First game is Bowling Green and Franklin County and it's
at Franklin County.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Pretty good game, you have, Franklin, I have Bowling Green.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Yes, Eddie James is their head coach who also was
a Bull County guy who was there with you nine
and zero. Right now, they got a sophomore quarterback, Notch Barrett.
He's already thrown for over two thousand yards and twenty
five TOUCHDOW. That's pretty dang impressive.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Jacob Taylor and to Lano Collins lead the teav in receiving.
Jacob Olds leads a team in defense with ninety eight tackles.
Shaloone Moore and Delano Collins again lead the team interceptions.
Collins has got three, Moore's got five, So you know
they're having a big season.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
And uh, you know, hey, Eddie's going after But.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Eddie's done such a good job he probably can't find
a whole lot of games. He probably almost had to
play Bowling Green because he's done a super job.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
He really has. He has.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
He's done a real good job. And when you do
a good job, it's hard to get games. You got
to do a little traveling. And I guess either he
returned it, or he went to Bowling Green last year,
or he's got to go next year.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
I haven't kept up, but.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I've got Bowling Green their head football coaches, Mark Spader,
and uh, they're currently four and five.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
But don't let that rector fool you.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
They lost their first five out of six against the really,
really tough schedule.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Most people really have kind of wrote them off.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Uh in the state championship conversation because of that rough
start that they had. They didn't realize it was against
a very good competition. I wouldn't advise that. I would
not advise them. I wouldn't advise to write them all.
They they are still Bowling Green. You know, they know

(42:27):
how to win it. They've been there three the last
three years. They've won it twice over the last three years.
They just know how to they don't. They know how
to do it. And they got they got some really
good players. They happen to be young players, but they've
got some really good players. Their quarterback.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
This year is.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Anthony Davis and excuse me, and he's uh, he's They
made the switch at quarterback maybe after the first, a third, second,
third game, I don't remember, but they made the switch
from an older guy to a to the young freshman.
And they're they're they're riding it out with the young
freshman and he's getting better every every single game. Anthony Davis,

(43:12):
As I said, you know, they got a stable full
of running backs. Uh uh mont Treveon Graham is kind
of their key guy. But they got they got several
running backs. And the key to this this football team
this year is this wide receiver, Trevy Barber.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
He is the he's the real deal.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
He was hurt earlier in the year. He's been back.
He is the guy that can be a difference maker.
He can be a different They're getting the ball and
he's going to do something with the ball. He really
really good. As I said, I wouldn't count.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
This is a non classification game.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
In other words, uh, Bowling Green is five A and
Franklin County is four A. So it doesn't have anything
to do with uh, you know, the ranking or anything
like that. It's it's just a non yeah, you know,
class game. But I'm telling you don't count Bowling Green
out five. Ay Is has has not proven they're that

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strong this year to begin with, and the best teams
seem to be in your district.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
But overall their bottom they're they're not that strong.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I wouldn't count Bowling Green out in the state conversation
state championship conversation just yet. I actually think that Bowling
Green will beat Franklin County this Friday.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
I got you, I will disagree with you. I think
Franklin County is going to get them. I think Bowling
Green's absolutely trending upward, and I think in November there'll
be a different path. But I say, right now, Franklin
County I still think just got an edge on them.
So all right, so next we got we got Sayer
in Middlesborough. Why don't you go first on say yeah, yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
And Sayer is their head football coaches chat Bennington. You
know he he lost. He's eight and one currently he
lost a really close team to k c D.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
And k c D was you know, one of the
top teams, uh in in single A this year and
he lost the close game to them. They are the
defending state champions, David, the defending state champions. So they
got a really good team, a really good program. Coach
Pennington has done a wonderful job there. Uh, this is
just going to be a great way to end the

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regular season. What a great game. These two guys you know,
is it possible that these two guys, these two teams
could meet again for the state championship.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Is it possible?

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I don't, I think it could. I think both of
them are those are that good. Sayah has got a
new quarterback. It's still a Pennington. I think this one
is Gauge Pennington. The uh, the the older one graduated
last year, led his team to a state championship. He's
been putting up impressive numbers, so he's chip off the

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old block, falling right in line with the rest of them,
including Dad. Katon Jones leads the way with the rushing
game and the receivers. The top targets have been not
Kayten Jones again and Jackson Stewart.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
So, Sarah is a really really, you know, good football team.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Obviously, they're defending state champ and it's who I'm going
with in this game, even though we're playing against Larry.
But I'm still going with Sayah, somebody's got to beat
them before I pick against them.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
I got you well, I've got Middlesbrough coached by Larry French,
who was my high school coach. I'm always very proud
to say that they're eight to er Hey, he's got
a nice quarterback, Deacon Parton. He's thrown for almost fourteen
hundred yards. I think he's a junior twenty one touchdowns,
throwing one interception. Joseph Killian, Mackey Young and and Mary

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Murray Houston lead the wide receivering corps. And then their
defense is led by Cod be lost in Coach Bayless.
They're they're leading their defense right now in tackles.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
H I tell you what.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Over the years, and look, Chad Pennington's a great football coach,
and I've helped Chad his quarterback camps.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
I really I think a lot of Chad. He's a
good man and a good football coach.

Speaker 5 (47:17):
But I'm still drinking that Larry French kool A going
back to nineteen eighty six. I just I just seen
him win so many games where before the game he
talks like it's going to be a running clock by
the beginning of the first quarter, and then somehow they win,
and I and they're plus they're playing at Middlesbrough. I'll

(47:42):
say this, if they were playing at Sayer, I think
I would pick Sayer. And I know I still think
it's a big I think Sayer's probably a pretty good
favorite in this game. But and it's not being sentimental.
I just really Coach French is in my head that
I just I'm you. I just used to coach Frinch

(48:02):
figured out a way to do something, and uh, I
just got a feeling they're gonna do it again.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I just think.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
So you're picking Middlesbrough.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yes, I'm picking middlesber Okay, let's go.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
You're pretty good at it at picking teams. As we're
gonna go to our rapid fire segment. Here we last
week you were seven out of ten, of course, and
uh well that's below your average or usually eighty percent.
That's seventy percent. Yeah, listen to this, David, listen to mine.

(48:35):
I was one out of ten.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
I gotta get smarter and start picking the same one
that you pick. I don't know why.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
Anyway, but here I've been trying to copy you for
forty years. I still can't you think I have got
one yet, But anyway.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Anyway, you're still hitting seventy three out of ninety four,
about seventy eight percent for the year. I'm fifty two
out of ninety four about fifty five percent of the year.
I'm not gonna win any money in Vegas at all. Now,
let's go to this week's games, and I've got some
good ones.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Line this week ten. There there are a lot of
good games. There's a bunch of them yet.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
A good games. My first one up is Franklin Simpson
and Glasgow.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Glasgow.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
That's who I'm going with as well. Glasgow hasn't lost
a game, I don't think. I think they're undefeated so far.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
How about this one.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Holy Cross out of Covington and Bellevue holy Cross, holy Cross.
I'm gonna go with Bellevue. I honestly don't know anything
about either one of them, but I wanted to get
in order of Kentucky team up.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
How about Madison Central and Saint X.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
We just talked to the Madison I know coach Hey,
both great coaches. I just think Saint X has got
more fire power. But I will say I won't be
surprised to see Madison Central winn a sixth a state title.
I know that's a reach to say something like that,
but William's got me. Williams sort of got that Larry
French bojoe going and he he's really good at these

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tip offs.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Now. But anyway, Hey, I'm gonna go sat X this week.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I'm gonna go with st X as well. I just
think sat X is really good one. They got their quarterback.
You know, when the back was out, they didn't do
real well. But uh, he is a he is a
mister football kind of guy, the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yes he is. He is a candidate. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Next one, how about this one? Lynn Camp and Clay County.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Man, you keep I'm struggling on these. I'm gonna go
Clay County.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Clay County. Yeah, I think what I'm gonna go with
Clay County as well. And again I don't know anything
about either one of them. How about Oh, listen to this.
This is a good one here, Atherton and north.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
That is a good one.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
I think Atherton is gonna be I think Atherdon will
have a little bit of the edge. But I tell
you what, Brick Roberts, who we had him on our
show Rock is killing it. He is making this head
coach stuff look easy. He's doing a really good job.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Who did you pick after d I thought you don't
get on that fence again. Well, I'll tell you what
I'm going with Northold. Are you after I pick north
Oldham they upset South God, I'm picking.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Uh, here we go Boyle versus Frederick Douglass.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
What good, it's gracious. That is a tough one. I
think I'm gonna go Douglas on this one. What Yeah,
you know who I've.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Got to go with.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
I know it, and I know Nathan McPeek gets mad
at me every time I pick against him.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
But I gotta go with Boyle. Just sure that's who.
That's who I am, right. Uh, how about Brian's Station
in south Oldle.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I'm gonna go with Brian's Station.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Well, me and you were all over that bandwagon or
South Odum earlier in the year and now, well it's
not that.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
I but I think south Oldham's got a good football team,
I really do. But Brian's Station becomes a different animal.
In November, they just do and it's it's Halloween. I
just I think Brian's Station's peaking. And uh, I think
South's got a nice team. I just think Brian's Station
will get them.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Well, I'm picking south Oldham. You said they were all
that beginning of the year, so they are.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
They are really good. Hey, here's You're know, No matter
how tough our district is.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Collins was beating Woodford at halftime of their game, and
Woodford is they are the real deal. I mean I
saw him. I saw him Friday night. But that's how
good our district is. Collins, who I think came in third.
They were beating what is the number one five eight
team in the state at halftime.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It's a tough district. It is good team, all right.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
How about Mail and Manuel.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
I'm gonna go Manuel.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah, Manuel has done really well. Mail is turning on
though they are, but I can't. I just think Manuel's
got that running back.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
I mean, he is real good.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Hey, that was one thing where I helped Kevin. I
didn't understand how good Manuel was. I'm not sure Manuel's
not the best coaching job in Kentucky. I think I
think it is a great, great place, a great place,
nice facilities.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
How about McCracken and Graves County's south west.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Let's go out west here.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
I'm gonna go mccracking. I think they made me pay
last week when I picked Henderson. Yeah, I'm gonna go
to Cracking.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I'm gonna pick McCracken as well. And the last one
here is a nice one. It's Pulaski and Bell County.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Man, I tell you what, that's sort of the quarterback deal.
Like with Saint X.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
I don't think plastic you will get their quarterback back.
So I probably would give the edge Tobelle County.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
And it's at Bell County too. Yeah, you know what,
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I know they don't have their quarterback, but I'm I'm
going with Travis Burns and Pulaski.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Well, sure they still got a really good team.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, but it makes a difference when you don't have
your starting court. Okay, I know it does.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
That's all we got. That's it, So we'll see how
that turns out.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
You're hot.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
You've been on the road, getting seventy eight to eighty.
I mean that's really good, David.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
I wish my plate colleague could match my game picks
that then he might have something, and.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Then we might have.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Got I got to try to translate picking ball games
to colin plays.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
I got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Okay, Hey, what do you got for next week?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Hey, I'm excited about it.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Hey, south Oldham, the guy that put them on the map,
Jamie Reid is our guest next week. He's now the
head coach at al Oldham County. And our tough topic
is from Dan Geiga and this is another Bluegrass Press
one late.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
In the season. Pending playoff run versus the season ending
is tough. How do you handle it?

Speaker 5 (55:36):
How do you handle if you're looking at a playoff run?
How do you handle it if things are tough and
you know your season's ending. And uh so we'll talk
about those two things, and you know, we'll we'll look
at it. And I tell you what, for a long time,
I mean it was like, I mean, just not making

(55:56):
the playoffs was just we'll talk, We'll see you next week.