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June 12, 2025 50 mins
Join Harrison and Graves as we talk about an early spark in the 2027 Governor race in MS, and the LA riots. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ah, it's the Consolant Colonel Podcast with Harrison Dolls, where

(00:22):
one man stands against me, the wife and tide of walism.
This officer in the battles Preserve Artis is the Conservative Chromit.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Nothing else here, our hopes and our journeys continued, and
here's Harrison Laws.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome back to the Conservative Colonel Podcast. I'm your host,
Harrison Dolls, joined by Graves Baker and you probably thought
this show had died, didn't y'all? I will apologize to everybody.
My summers are usually always hectic, and Graves has had

(01:23):
a hectic schedule as well, so he hasn't been able
to fill in. So it's it's I promise you we
will continue with the two months episodes to our two
month or heck, poor may only got one episode a month.
I love how I titled the last episode We're back

(01:46):
and We're fired up, and I got pissed that whole episode.
But we are back, hopefully before good now again, I
do apologize, hoping that my schedule will change around August
and it will be a lot easier to record episodes

(02:08):
after that point. But uh, yeah, we're back. We're back,
and there's a crap ton of news to cover. It's
going to be it's gonna be a while, TiO. We
can cover all of it because this episode's gonna be
a bit short, and the next two episodes are in
celebration of the fiftieth episode, So it's it's gonna be
an interesting time.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
But uh, one day, that's a good week for me
to come back with all that's happened over the last weekend.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh my god, it's crazy. And uh, it's gonna call
some hot button topics today and I can't wait to
get into them. But we'll start off first with some
interesting And this is the first episode, by the way,
that we don't have a script written for. I only

(02:56):
have a script of stories that I would like to
talk about out. But uh, because of how quick this
episode has come together for me and Graves's schedule, I
haven't even changed out of my work clothes. If you're
watching the video format of the show and you still
can't see me, uh, Graves Grave's camera just does not
want to grace us with his presence, not at all.

(03:21):
He's like one of those faceless liberals on the internet
that only talks when they wear as wearing a mask
Graves has been driving around Mississippi with a mask on,
even in his car with no one there. Yeah, to
make sure he never gets sick. But so let's start

(03:42):
off with Mississippi and hopefully we won't jump around too much.
But Mississippi has an interesting thing happening. Two years before
the governor's election. We have a potential three people who
have already announced run. And I do say POTENTI because
there's only one person who's officially announced he's running. Of course.

(04:05):
The two unofficial people that have, like you could, I
could put money that they're going to run for governor is,
of course Shade White, our state auditor. He has made
it clear that even though he hasn't announced yet, he's
eyeing the up the governor's mansion. He wants it, and

(04:27):
I think he's going to announce soon. The other one,
who is announced at a very quiet banquet and has
not made any major public news announcement. He is only announced,
as I said, at a fundraising galap for himself. Shocker

(04:48):
is the king of the Democrats here in Mississippi, Delbert Hoseman.
I like calling him King Delbert because that's how he
acts like. He acts like he's the monarch here. So yeah,
we have the those two who have not officially announced,
but they have heavily implied that they are. Shade has
said that someone is going to have to challenge del

(05:10):
Bert in twenty seven. And how you know, I think
I would make a great governor. Again, not saying he's running.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Its challenged him a lot and done well just in
the current role that he's in.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh yeah, he's done phenomenal this year as state auditor
and has really tried to come out of his own
this year, which is great. You know, I feel like
he was trying to get a lay of the things,
and I think he's one of the few Republicans that
when he saw the Trump mandate, I'm going to call it,

(05:46):
he actually decided to follow it. I won't say he obviously,
I won't say he's been a conservative leader his whole
time in office, but at least the past year, it
seems like he's actually followed the mandate at least and
has actually tried to fight to cut the spending down
here in Mississippi and to cut waste here in Mississippi,

(06:07):
and to fight corruption. Because sure, as enough, Delbert didn't
like it. He has tried twice now to strip the
state auditor of his powers. It's just great. Oh and
like one time, what was it like he had to
get the state's permission to investigate the state, which is
just glorious. Wait, we all know that Delbert runs the

(06:31):
Mississippi government. Mississippi's weird for people who don't are for
our listeners that don't know our lieutenant governors by far
the most powerful position in Mississippi. And we'll actually talk
about that in a bit. And so Delbert has successfully
turned us purple under his administration, and that was before

(06:53):
his second term. So who knows how things are going
to go the next two years, But hopefully it ends
with Delbert needing to find a new retirement home to
stay at because the man is older than my grandfather.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
It'd just pass out. Recently. Oh yeah, he presiding over
the Senate.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
That was because he was dehydrated. They say, well, you
can tell what type of people we are on this
show worth of I would rather trust a fart in
church than trust that source.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I believe it just as much as I believe la
is peaceful.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Right now, that is a sneak peek at what we're
talking about a bit. But the big news to kind
of come out of Mississippi this weekend, and it has
honestly kind of split me a bit, is our Agricultural
Commissioner Andy Gibson announcing that he is going to be

(07:56):
running for governor, and in doing so, is the first
official announcement for our governor race in twenty twenty seven.
As I said before, Shade and Delbert have hinted at it,
implied it, but neither have made an official announcement. And
it's even more interesting that none of them have made

(08:18):
an announcement as of now. As of the time of
recording this episode Thursday, June twelfth, at five twenty seven pm,
they've stayed quiet. Actually we have not heard from them too,
and that is interesting. I'm sure Shade is thinking where
I hope he's thinking is Andy is very popular here

(08:42):
in Mississippi. I think there be very few people that
could beat the Rhino powerhouse that is Delbert, because, as
you know, our graves might not know, but for our
viewers in Mississippi, they know just how powerful the Rhinos
are here in Mississippi and how much money they put

(09:03):
into derailing actual conservatives. They put millions of dollars in it,
and last election cycle didn't really go our way for
the true conservatives here in Mississippi, and so I am
very interested. I'm a farmer, as some of you know,
and so my commissioner of Agriculture running for governor is

(09:25):
a shock, but almost a welcome one, if that makes sense.
I'm still gonna do my research on any I haven't
done that yet. We'll probably do an episode closer to
the election on the men running for governor. But I
will say this, he has done a great job, as
he was much better than our previous Commissioner of Agriculture,

(09:49):
current Senator Sidney Hyt Smith.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Why she was working.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Now I don't But here's the thing. Even living under
her representation, I don't hear about anything she's doing. You know.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
The only good thing I've heard since she's gone into
office and that this is not a brag on Sydney
had Smith. I'm not a Sydney had Smith fan. But
the only good thing she has done is she's tried
to get more funding for the Vicksburg National Park here
in Mississia. And I like that. I'm a big history nerd.

(10:29):
I'm a big history historical preservation guy, I feel like
our museums that are telling true history are extremely underfunded.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
We've got some cool museums too, and.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
We do.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
It.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Seems like we all send all our money for education
to the public schools that don't deserve it that next week.
But you know that is so I will brag about
that because she has recently, and I mean recently, been
fighting for museums out of nowhere in Mississippi. I don't

(11:05):
know where this came from. I don't know where she
got this historic streak, but there it is. But she
was not a good commissioner of agriculture in Mississippi. Is
kind of hard to miss up in the agriculture department.
That's our number one industry. And it's not like there
was a big dip or anything, but you could see,

(11:28):
let me put it like this, she didn't really do
much and you could see she was playing a cowgirl
for the cameras, right, And in Mississippi, there's nothing that
pisses us off more than a fake farmer or fake
cowboy cowgirl. It just really rubs us the wrong way.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I'm from a small town and in no way would
I consider myself you know, as being a cowboy or
you know, acting like just because I have some land
that I'm a farmer. You know, you could call me
a city slicker, and you're probably right.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Harrison Dalls Are Commissioner of Agriculture twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I'll help, thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
But he is extremely popular in Mississippi. He has grown
our agriculture industry again to it's still the number one
industry in Mississippi, and he's grown it even further. He's
done a lot of things for farmers. And that's why
I think Andy doing his hat in the ring is
such an interesting interesting thing because the hardcore people here

(12:34):
in this state are going to back him. Delbert might
have the money, but Andy is going to have the
heart of Mississippi and that is our agriculture industry. So
it's gonna be interesting to see if Shade doesn't run
for governor, it will be a corrupt big business versus

(12:56):
farms in the governor's election in Mississippi. So we'll see
who wins that.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
As now, yeah, Andy, like he announced so early, nobody else,
even the guys that we know are going to run
or thinking about running. He's getting that head start. And
for someone who hasn't been the lieutenant governor, you know,
hasn't been the president of the Senate or anything. For

(13:24):
him to get out early is extremely important. And he's
probably already gonna start campaign, and if he didn't before he.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Announced, I noticed he's had an uptake take in posting
on socials and he posted a couple of days before
his announcement, you know, about donations to a future campaign,
And to me, someone who's involved in Missippi politics, I've
noticed a lot of politicians will act like they're about

(13:52):
to rerun for their current seat, but they'll never state it.
If you see someone make a post and it's very
vague about running for political office and needing donations, they're
about to announce something huge. They're just thinking it over.
And so it seems that Andy has made his decision.
He'll run for governor, and we will need a new

(14:16):
Commissioner of Agriculture, which I will be heavily watching that seat,
and I mean heavily simply because that is a very
important seat here in Mississippi, even though the state government
tries to strip it up some of its powers on
a constant basis. But of course, with that being the
number one industry in Mississippi very important on who gets

(14:38):
that role. I hope we don't get another just politician
looking to be come famous off the backbone of the farmers.
I hope we get an actual farmer, or at least
an actual person that's in agriculture to run like Andy was.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
But one thing you don't want to do is make
the farmers in Mississippi mad, because they will, you know,
do whatever it takes for you to give them what
they need.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
And I'm just shocked by the fact that Delbert hasn't
announced yet, because I mean, it's almost four gone conclusion
that Delbert and Shay are gonna announce. Shaye doesn't necessarily
need to announce now, it'd probably be smart, but he
doesn't have to. Delbert's almost like he needs to announce

(15:34):
because he's a lieutenant governor for the past couple of decades.
If I'm not mistaken, the lieutenant governor has won the
governor's mansion after finishing his two terms. Tate was, Tate
was Phil Bryant was. I'm drawing to blank on the
guy before Phil Bryant, but I'm pretty sure he did

(15:55):
the same thing. So you have two to three governors,
which is sixteen years if I dumb it down to
two that have ascended that seat after being lieutenant again.
This is why this is interesting to me because what
is going to happen now. I know who I definitely

(16:17):
don't want to win is Delbert and I'm pretty sure
this is gonna be the biggest fight we've seen for
the governor's mansion in a while here in Mississippi because
there's actually a chance for someone to run Democrat and
probably win it because there's gonna be a major split
in the Republican Party over this. Even though a Democrat,
he's on the Republican ticket, so he still takes up

(16:39):
space against US yep. Now do I think a Democrat
is gonna win seventy thirty? I'm thinking it's becoming a
higher possibility Mississippi. If we don't change how we get
out there as the Republican Party and follow our actual platform,
that would be nice. But this is going to be

(17:02):
interesting one. As I said, it's very strange for someone
to announce two years before the election that he's running.
I know Trump, we all knew he was going to run.
But Trump announced to what maybe a year out year
and a half.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, it was about a year about you know, a
little less than a year and a half.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, so for it to be not two years and
some chain, it's crazy that Andy's announced so quick, and
that should tell you all you need to know about
Andy's confidence going into this. If I was Delbert, I
would be reconsidering. If I was Shade, I would be

(17:46):
looking and eyeing that lieutenant governor seat.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
I'd like him there.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah, he'd be great there because Mississippi is in desperate
need of a new conservative leader, because the top conservatives
in Mississippi or Rhinos, we really don't have a solid person.
And that goes for both sides of the conservative movement.
If you've listened to the show before, I've described it

(18:15):
as a Washington Conservative, which is what Graves is, and
the Jeffersonian Conservative is what I am. It's funny we
really don't have representation on both our sides of the argument.
Graves at least has some candidates. I got nothing. I
ain't got Jack Crap. The guy that was kind of

(18:37):
our spokesperson on my side was Chris McDaniel. If you
haven't heard of Chris McDaniel, if you're not one of
our listeners fro Mississippi. Just research them. You'll see that
he's called every dirty word in the book by Republicans
and Democrats. So that should let you know how good
he was at his job, big, big person. Actually, this

(19:01):
whole thing got started working under his campaign for lieutenant governor.
The Heck the Conservative Colonel podcast facebook page. Go look
at the first name for it. It's Wayne County for
Chris McDaniel.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And it was actually under his advice and Jack's advice
from the Right Side Radio that we even started this show.
So obviously I'm a big, huge Chris McDaniel supporter, But
Mississippi really hasn't stepped up with a new leader to
fill either of our side roles. We're just dominated by Rhino.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I will say I want one thing from the next governor,
and Delbert won't do this. But for all the stuff
you can say about Tate Reeves, Mississippi is on the
up and up right now. I mean the amount of
investments from businesses that we're getting. We went from you know,
one of the worst in education to now ranking number

(20:03):
sixteen in the country, and then you got the fact
that Mississippi's the number ten sought after state to move to. Now,
so we're we're booming, you know, maybe not at the
level that the big really have big cities, you know,
with a high population, but we've I think we had

(20:24):
the highest GDP growth in the whole country.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, number two or three. Like I've been reading that
and I want to talk about it. I was like,
think of the possibilities if we actually had conservative leadership.
This is what we've done off the seat of our
pants with a few people working their tail.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Imagine if we can get a whole Senate, House and
governorship under control and get some stuff done. Because I'm
not the biggest Tate Reeves guy, he has done. He's
done a lot more to piss me off and make
me happy, but we have grown as a state. That's good.

(21:04):
Stuff that he's done has been successful. And I asked
Mississippi to think what would happen if we actually had
someone in that office that wanted that role. I think
it'd be a great asset. Uh And I could see
Mississippi grow without falling into corruption. M Because that's the thing,

(21:29):
you know, Washington Conservatives are great at growing business and
great at growing entrepreneurship. And something I think my side
is really good at is making sure that that doesn't
corrupt us, if that makes sense, uh, Because I don't
want Misissippi to be like Virginia. I don't want Misissippi

(21:51):
to turn into Georgia. I don't want Mississippi to turn
into New York at California or heck, even Pea Pete
places like Texas is getting sketchy. But if we actually
and we can in Mississippi because we do have a
lot of Jeffersonian beliefs here, if we mix the two,
I just would my gosh, we'd enter in the most

(22:14):
promising time in Mississippi history.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
It would be phenomenal. I really hope we have it.
But it all depends on who the next governor and
lieutenant governor is, because they can get the ball rolling.
Maybe not get everything past that we need to, because
we'll need to get the Senate under control in the
House fully, but we could at least get the ball
rolling in the first direction. And then the next election

(22:44):
with those two leaders rerunning and we have hopefully this
new crop of senators and representatives coming up, imagine the possibilities.
I just cannot wait for it again. I hope we
don't do the same thing we did this last election cycle.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Where in your county are saying that you don't really
have any true Republican leadership left.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Nope.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
And you know what's weird is that my county is right,
we border on the delta. Part of our county is
technically the delta, and we're still red. You know, the
delta is where it goes blue and we border it.
But yet, you know, it's just weird to me that
that happened in your county versus ours.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, I think it's a continuous case of not having
any true Republicans. You look, my county is still very red,
but it doesn't act like it's red. And I think
the same can be said about the Mississippi government as
a whole. There are some areas like yours that's pretty

(23:58):
blessed with conservativelyship, and there's some areas like mine that
has a Republican leadership. I want to call him. That's
just the nature of the beast right now here in Mississippi.
And it's one thing Trump will be able to add
to his legacy one hundred percent that no one will
ever be able to take care of him or take

(24:20):
away from him. People are actually able to see just
how bad our party and I'm talking about as a
Republican has fallen out of actually having conservative leadership. It
was eye opening because you think about before Trump, Yeah,

(24:44):
there's people that we didn't like and they weren't really leaders.
But then like you open up and you're like, holy crap.
Trump is fighting for his life and he's got like
two people. So it's very interesting and I think that
will be Trump's legacy, and now we just need someone

(25:06):
that can inspire that change on the political level. Again.
You know we said this when Trump got elected. You
know he can't do it himself. He's fighting for his
life just to get the stuff passed that he has passed,
and some of the things he's done needs to be
everlasting change. But we both know how the presidency works.

(25:28):
A lot of stuff Trump did. If we don't improve
ourselves to help him, he'll be washed away by the
next president. That's why we have to get the sentence
in the houses under control of real conservative leadership. Quit
voting for the same guy that's put in that office
since nineteen fifty.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Please please not.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
You're killing me here, And I mean Mississippi's no better.
Trust me, We're not. I can't point to one resentive
on the national level from Mississippi that I would be like, Okay,
he's got it. There's like only a handful that are
actually pointing out stuff in the Congress. There's probably like

(26:13):
what would you say, graves about like maybe five or
six And I'm being generous almost.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I feel like, I mean, you got people. I hadn't
even seen Jim Jordan lately. What's going on with him? Though?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
You know that's yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
But there is a couple of people. It's just just
not a lot. I mean, that's why Congress itself has
like a twenty night it's probably less than twenty percent
approval rating.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, I believe that the funny thing is for me anyway,
I got like two Jeffersonian conservatives up there out of
the both houses.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Oh yeah, I just beat my head and uh, you
know me and you talked about I think at the beginning,
you know, poor h Desantez and Trump, the little few
they have going and dig abbit. If Trump didn't start
picking a feud with my two conservatives Jeffersonians, it's like Trump,
please don't. They're all I have, Man, Please don't. But

(27:21):
it's politics. It's a crazy thing. But yeah, no, uh,
hopefully Mississippi can wake up and well again, we'll talk
about this more in depth in an episode. I just
want to keep everybody informed on what was happening because
this is a bit shorter of an episode. It's kind
of off the cuff. You can tell, hopefully you can
tell that me and Graves are kind of just speaking

(27:43):
from the heart on topics and not really diving into them.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, like the whole You know, I know who Andy
Gibson is, but like you said, we have to do
more research on who you know, what is he done
in this time? I mean, you kind of know more
as a farmer, but there are ways you can see,
like how far to the right or left that people are,

(28:07):
And I'm going to look into those types of things.
But I feel like if he's been helping the farmers
and he's one of those types of people that he's
got good intentions and he's going to actually help the
regular people of the state that need it.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I have faith that he will. The funny thing is,
is he actually I think made a rare political misstep
this year and pissed off a lot of farmers, which
was rare for Andy. It almost came out of nowhere,
like someone's like sent me a like it felt like
it was a Babylonian b article and I was like, Oh,

(28:44):
this can't be right. And I can't remember if we
talked about on the show, but Andy kind of went
with some big business on something and I was like,
ah Andy, you're killing us. But I mean every politician
is going to have a misstep. We've talked about on
the show. There are politicians me and you probably love

(29:04):
to death that we've sat back at times and been like.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Why I has done that with Trump before me?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
I have done that with Trump a good bit, but
it never affected and I think that's what something we
need to get back to. It never affected my support
of him.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
You don't have to agree with someone one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
As I said, Graves is a Washington Conservative and and
I'm a Jeffersonian. Now some of you people might not
know what these terms mean. We'll talk about that at
a later date and kind of dive into it because
I do. I will spend a lot of the show
talking about Jeffersonian views because that's my stance, but I
also want to dive in because we kind of made

(29:48):
up the term Washington Conservative, so I do want to
explain it. But you know, there's stuff that me and
Graves don't agree on, and me and Graves still come
on hopefully once a week. Let me knock on some
wood and talk about it, and me and him might
have a big disagreement in the mill of show, and

(30:08):
I guarantee you after the show, me and Grays will
talk ten fifteen to twenty minutes about anything else other
than one time we talked about how old Miss keeps
blowing leads and pissing us off.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
A lot happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's it's a part of our nature. I feel like,
as old Miss rebels is to have old Miss do
good just to screw up. But we do need to
get back to that because it is just much needed,
especially in the Republican Party, where if you're there's three
sides right now, we need to eliminate one of them.

(30:46):
I'll let y'all guess which one that is. But we
need to get back to it again. I still voted
for Trump knowing I was going to disagree with him
on some stuff. I actually have a hot button topic
that we're about to talk about in a bit that
I don't know precisely if the president has the power
to do so, but he's doing it. So it's very

(31:08):
interesting and I think we need to get back to that.
But let's uh, we're not doing any commercial breaks. I'm
gonna make this episode commercial free. Screw it. I've made
two dollars and I've spent it on a Thomas Jefferson
two dollars bill to find well, I mean, from my viewpoint,

(31:30):
he's the president that come up with the Jeffersonian Conservative
and we had a real golden era under his leadership,
and I think the next two presidents before Jeffersonian Conservatives
haven't done anything since. It's crazy how quickly we went
into the political underworld. Yeah, God bless us. But yeah,

(31:56):
So that's what I've spent the money on the show
on We made two dollars, maybe five dollars, and I
bought myself a Rees's and got the two dollar bill
and I don't even have anything to frame it with.
It's just sitting at my house. It's not even in
my office. I need to move it over here. But uh,
let's talk about the kind of big topic of the week,

(32:19):
the LA riots.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Well, you know, I want to say this about the
and this in a way I was do with LA
riots because it's liberals right. So the I saw a diagraph,
got what diagram today and and it had like the
viewpoints of the right versus the left and the left.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
It was just like this tiny little octagon circle with
a couple of lines coming out. The right it was
like this big circle and more lines coming out, and
it just literally showed it by a long shot, that
the right has more open minded thinking for yourself than

(33:05):
the left. And it was just funny to see that
proven because they say they're more educated, and they think
they're more educated while they're sitting here burning cars and
looting civilians businesses or even an immigrants business. I saw
a legal immigrant from India who owned a jewelry store
got looted in.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
La Gotta love La.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
When you result to violence instead of being able to
debate and all this stuff, it proves that you're not
as smart as you think you are.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, and people make fun of the right because we
have so many vast viewpoints. You'll notice if you get
a room for the Republicans in the room and dive
into some hot button topics, you'll get about three or
four different answers. Yeah, that is a blessing and a
curse for us because we are a big free thought
but we're not a machine like the Democratic Party. But

(34:00):
I'll take being independent and free over being part of
a machine and one thought any day of the week.
But you also can tell, even though they are so
much on the same page as a party, there's just chaos.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
M h.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I think these riots are a great example of that.
Are these peaceful protests? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, they're at least mostly peaceful. I mean, like that
one gallon CNN said, you know, it's just a bunch
of people having fun watching cars burn.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
I did not hear that quote. Please stay it one
more time.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
It's just a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn.
And he said that before Trump National Guard got there.
It was before that. He was like, if he brings
it in, it's going to turn into more than that.
And it's like, bro, it's artists. Yeah. That the very

(35:01):
first day of these before the riots even started, just
a couple of people trying to stop ice, throwing rocks
and concrete blocks at them and stuff. I mean, it
started off as violence.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
And we still hear about January sixth. And again, I
told everybody at the start when we did the show,
a riot's a riot. I don't agree with it. Now
I'm one of those people because of how our government
was founded, and it's in our Declaration of Independence. Funny enough,
we have the right to secede from a government. Heck,

(35:41):
the founding fathers did it.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
But if you're starting your argument with let's go flip
a car or hit a police officer, maybe, just maybe
you're starting off on the wrong foot, because again, we're
a place where you can protest. If they wanted to

(36:06):
do a protest, that's more than their right go do
a protest.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
You want to wave the Mexican flag, wave.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
It, Yeah, I don't care. I'm one of those people
that's like, yeah, yeah, we're all Americans, but we all
have our different cultures. You can fly that flag, I
don't care, but don't burn mine. But don't burn mine.
You know, how would you like it if I went
over there and burn the Mexican flag. You probably wouldn't
like it, and you would probably hit me.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I would would probably go to jail.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I would definitely go to jail, because that's just not
who we are. If you have disputes, settle it like
this is gonna piss some liberals off. Settle it like
a man. Let's talk about it. Yeah, let's get through
our disagreements. It is a darn shame that we've gotten

(36:59):
so violent so quickly in this country.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Liberals used to say, if you, you know, disagree, you know,
it's your free speech. But now if you disagree, you
know they're gonna throw something at you, or hit you,
or burn your car key or tesla beat you with
a stick.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
At this point, yeah, it is crazy, and I just
cannot believe we're in riot season again. Twenty twenty was
an awful year, and here that will go down to
me is probably one of the angriest I've been at
the world, you know, I just in twenty one and

(37:40):
seeing the riots happening, seeing as a historian, the attacks
on history, seeing what happened with Trump. I lost a
lot of faith in the world in twenty twenty, and
it's been a slow build up of getting that back,
being like, okay, well there still is people out there
fighting a good fight, trying to get this country back

(38:00):
on track as a whole. And I hate to say it,
but if more liberals lived by the same mindset as
a conservative of I don't care what you do in
California as long as you don't California my Mississippi. Yeah,
And I honestly think Galvin Newsom should be impeached for

(38:24):
not protecting his citizens.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Right, did you see? All? Right? So some actor I
think it was James Woods he posted something a picture
of twenty twenty on accident. You know, he didn't know
it was from twenty twenty. He's old, but he posts
a picture of them burning cars and stuff in twenty
twenty in LA and Galvin knew Some responded by saying

(38:50):
that wasn't even this year, but nice try. Someone commented said, oh,
Gavin Newson wants you to know that this wasn't from
twenty twenty five, but this was when he let it
burn in twenty twenty two. Like he just owned himself.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
He did. That's one of the best setups in history.
Like he could have taken multiple approach like well, you know,
I don't even know how you defend yourself letting a
riot happen and sit on your hands because I told
someone this, I'm at a conflict of interest because I
don't know if I agree with the president being able

(39:28):
to send the National Guard into a state. States should
be able to do that themselves. But then again, Galvin
Newsom isn't doing anything. So if the person that's supposed
to be protecting them isn't protecting them, what would a
sitting president do? And for me, that would be the
hardest choice of my presidency right there. Do I break

(39:52):
my own rules or do I save these people? Because
this is just a travesty. It got way out of
hand the first the first day this all happened, the
first time, the cars were being flipped and on fire.
Galvin should have gotten the National Guard together and said,
this is not what we do here in California. You

(40:13):
are more and welcome to protest peacefully. You are more
and welcome to show your pride and your heritage. I'm
big into that.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Do that are you know?

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Numerous things he could have done, didn't do a single thing,
and let his people get hurt, robbed, loss of property, towards,
lives ruined. I don't know if there's any has there
been any deaths that have come out of this riots.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Yet there have not been ah yet.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
If it's anything like twenty, there will be soon, right.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I mean we're just getting started. I mean, you know,
they got protests set up all around the country this Saturday.
But I want to say this about the president using
National Guard and stuff. So this is mainly for the liberals,
but it's like overall history lesson anyway. So Abraham Lincoln

(41:07):
he did it, which now that was for a different
reason and we can debate whether he was supposed to
or not. Right the war of Northern aggression versus whatever,
you know, so it goes past that though, Teddy Roosevelt, LBJ. Kennedy, H. W.
Bush Washington. Yeah, I forgot about that one. HW. Bush Obama.

(41:34):
I mean, this isn't unprecedented. It's the way you do it.
So usually it's been done under Title thirty two. Don't
know what that is, I'll be honest, but Title ten
says at anytime that you know it's people from a
foreign area, you know, people are impeding on federal agents

(42:00):
who are trying to stop foreigners or whatever. You know,
what we classify or Trump classifies as an invasion falls
under Title ten because they're trying to stop federal agents
from stopping the invader. So therefore he was able to,
without the governor's consent, go ahead and bring in the
guard and then he did the Marines.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, and I mean I've been telling people all week
as a historian and as my political beliefs, I'm split,
But don't let it get confusing. I'm happy he did it.
I've talked about a second ago. If I was in
his shoes, oh my gosh, I don't know what I
would do. So split, But again, we talked about the

(42:48):
people who have done it before him. Great men are
in that category. You've talked about Washington ones that I
have studied a lot and definitely don't agree with. You know,
it's interesting, but I just don't see it. In my

(43:09):
opinion as well. If the governor ain't even trying, then
whose job is it? And that's something that's really not
addressed in my opinion. If the government are the state
level at this point, and I think I've described how
I feel about the state and national level, I think

(43:31):
the state outranks the national on most cases. But this
is kind of one of those gray areas. If the
state's not doing anything, well, is it the federal government's
got job or not. But I don't know necessarily this
is ever going to be looked upon negatively by Republicans
simply because of the carnage that was happening. It was

(43:52):
like a third world country in LA and you had
people even left and right, not knowing what to make
of the situation.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
And it's over deportations, which is hilarious because Obama's nickname
was the porter in Chief, which is even funnier when
you think about the fact that Bill Clinton deported more
people than Obama, And then it's even funnier. They're acting
like this when Trump is deported including his first term
up to now barely two million. Obama was five million,

(44:24):
Bill Clinton was nine million. So you know, what's the
big deal.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
To all the liberals out there, I hope Trump beats
that nine million record, and that's gonna piss people off.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
But well, I think I should say this when it
comes to that, because I just got my TikTok comment
removed earlier for saying to port them all. And I
said that because yesterday a story came out that an
illegal alien shot and killed a marine who was you know,
he's not active duty now, but you're always a marine. Yeah,

(45:00):
so I was like, just to pour them all. You know,
I don't care how many are here. I know there's
more than one million in LA.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
To pour them all. It makes sense. But it's just
a sad state that we've gotten to here in this country.
I honestly still can't believe that this was happening again,
like twenty twenty. You kind of almost hope it was
an isolated incident, yeah, because I mean when January sixth

(45:34):
happened again, I spoke out against it, but the liberals
treated it like it was a second nine to eleven.
And I'm like, Okay, we're gonna ignore everything that happened
in twenty twenty because that was an atrocity in my mind.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
More than thirty died and multiple different cities, two billion
dollars worth it with a B and damages, and one
person on January sixth who was a unarmed protester yep.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
And I got a whole episode on that that we
might even revisit because of these things. But I've been
keeping up with it sparingly. As I said, Normally, I
would have had a lot of researching done before we
filmed an episode, but this was kind of a last
minute thing for both of us. But it's it's crazy

(46:26):
how as soon as the riot happens and it's left,
it's mostly peaceful, right happens on the right again, not
agreeing with either. It's a it's a massive terrorist attack.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
It's just the amount of double standard that they, you know,
put in their own minds just to feel morally better.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Oh they're the party, We're superior than you.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Yeah, well they you know, it's funny they were like
that during slavery and all that too. But but just
the violence, man, I just I don't understand why they
keep going back to this and the people that still
support them, you know, you see them on social media

(47:17):
and they're like, no looting has happened. I've watched it happen.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
That's like uh, seeing the fire behind a news reporter.
There's been a peaceful play here in La, this protest
about deportation, just burning flags behind them, car flipped over,
police officers bleeding. It's not flye here in La. No

(47:43):
need to be alarmed. And that's honestly how this party acts.
All their leaders too, are just blind to it. They
act like nothing wrong has happened, And I don't understand
that defense.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Maxine Waters, what'd you say you see, Maxine Waters?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I have not.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
She went when the National Guard first got there, and
she was out in the streets for like thirty minutes,
and she goes on press conference the next day after
they found three million dollars worth of cars burned, and
she was like, I was on the streets. There was
no violence, there was no rioting. It's like, ma'am, you

(48:25):
were at nine in the morning for thirty minutes, and
we just know they're lying.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I just don't understand how more Americans don't see through it,
like the amount of people that got pissed on January sixth,
and how the Republican Party held Trump you know, don't
do it, guys, is that we're falling into their trap.
Don't do it. They're encouraging a riot. They want, they needed,

(48:55):
they know they have to have it. And then you
got a dead gune liberal like Alvenus and being like, oh,
everything's fine here in California, no need to get involved, right.
I just it blows my mind.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
No, they really, they really just go to extreme links
to make it act or make it sound like nothing's
going on. And even the media, you know, the coverage
they do show and the things they say, it's all
manipulative and everything they're doing is to destroy America. I mean,
why do you think they keep talking about letting illegals

(49:34):
in to give them voting rights so they never lose
an election again while that party also burns the American flag.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
That If that doesn't sum up the Left, I don't
know what does. But we actually went a bit longer
than I thought we were. It's about six of eight,
so I think me and Graves both need to get
out of here. Yeah, but I do want to thank everybody.
Please go support us on Conservativecernel dot com. We're on

(50:06):
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(50:31):
to say goodbye for now, and we'll hopefully see y'all
next week. For the fiftieth episode of the Conservative Kernel.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Podcast, it's time to celebrate.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Time to celebrate Big five zero for us. But uh
I guess the only way to end it is God
bless America and God bless Mississippi.
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