E57 Redistricting

Join Harrison, Graves (for a bit), and Sam Biafore as we talk about the Government Shutdown and redistricting. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Welcome back to the Conservative Colonel Podcast. I'm your host,
Harrison Dolls, and as always I'm joined by our illustrious
co host that dyslexia kicked in right there, our co
host Greg uh and we are joined by our special
guest Sam.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Again.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
It's good to see Sam back on the show. It's
been a hot minute. It's been a hot minute for
all this.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
So I was I was telling Grays and everything. I
was like, hey, when you guys recording Gat And he
told me and I was just say, hey, well, whatever
you're doing, you know, sign me up. So it's cool
to be back.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Well changes, oh gosh, it's you know what. Anytime I
think that my work life is just gonna be nice, calm, peaceful,
easy to record, it seems like my work has like
a sixth sense, like a spidy sense, and they decide

(01:58):
like let's let's throw all we can let's just throw
everything we can to make scheduling hard. And it's been
like that this week. We had it scheduled for Wednesday, Thursday,
and now of course Friday, a bit late episode of
the Conservative Colonel podcast. We do apologize, but honestly, I'm

(02:18):
just happy we're all able to find some time today
to get it on our schedule. I was very happy
we moved it. We scheduled it twice today. I got
caught up in a pretty long meeting and then had
to sell a puppy afterwards for my farm. And then
it's also my grandfather's birthday, so I had to drive
to the house and drop off his gift and make

(02:40):
plans for supper tonight, which funny enough, I'm gonna run
late for. And it's just today is the gift that
keeps on giving. But before we kind of jump into
tonight's topic, because I know Graves, it has been bless
his heart. He's been waiting to talk about the government

(03:02):
shut down, talk about scheduling confit flicks. The government shut
down happened for forty three days, if I'm not mistaken,
the longest in American history, and Graves has been wanting
to talk about it since then, and bless his heart,
scheduling conflicts have been just out the door with us

(03:24):
on the show. I wish I could have thought about
letting Graves just host a show by himself. It didn't
even pop in my mind, even though you know, I
can't believe it's taken this long to ask Sam back.
Sam's basically there was like a sixth episode period where

(03:45):
Sam was on every episode. He's become a regular.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
For for some reason, Graves just like couldn't get rid
of me.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know, now, I've known Graves for I've known Graves.
Was just a period of time and I just texting
back and forth and just hey, you want to do
a show. I was like, all right, yes, I.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Well yeah, well I'm happy to have let's call ourselves
the Conservative.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I told him about how we had a state representative on,
you know, and well, man, that's awstome.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
When you're gonna do one next It's like, well, probably
next week.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
You can never be too sure. But Sam, if I
know my Christmas schedule like I think I do, don't worry.
You'll be back on the show. Poor Graves. You'll probably
be holding the fort down most of December, So I'll
go ahead and thank Sam for that, because Sam has
come and clutch for both me and Graves helping us
out on the show, and I can't thank him enough

(04:50):
for his work in the conservative movement and of course
here on the show. But before we kind of dive
into this podcast, let me remind everybody to go check
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(05:11):
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(05:32):
years of this show. Very just golly, that's hard to believe,
but we have been doing the show, this podcast for
two years now. We had representative Stacey Wilkes on it
was a great episode. If you didn't listen to that
I do highly encourage you all to go back to
last week's ept. Don't click off this one, hold on,

(05:53):
but after this episode, go listen to that one. It
was a great episode. I had a great time, and
please share that episode out as long as well as
this one, because we do have some very interesting topics
if you can't tell by the title and description. I
can't wait to jump into because I'm one of those
people I focus sometimes on Mississippi, I overlook the federal

(06:17):
which is why I'm so happy to have Graves and
Sam on this show to help me out, because I
probably should have focused on the government shut down. But
I'm a Trifersonian conservative, as I've pointed out on the show,
So I'm one of those people that I'll dial on
the heel that the federal government shut down shouldn't affect me.
Even if it does, I'm going to like just not

(06:38):
with the federal government. It's kind of my downfall in
this scenario. But we're also going to talk about redistricting,
and that's a topic I just have not really talked
about on this show before, so I'm really interested in
Sam and Graves is talking tonight. But real quick, I
do want to point out stace. Presentative Wilkes did hint

(07:01):
at a special announcement that she was giving me this
week on the Conservative Colonel podcast, and I can happily
announce that Representative Stacy Wilkes will be getting her own
super Talk media podcast which will be available on Apple, Audible, Spotify,
Stitcher and tune in for more platforms as they come.

(07:24):
Announce but it is sponsored by super Talk Mississippi. The
name of her podcast will be Faith, Family and Mississippi.
And you're listening to the first guest of that show me.
I will be returning the favor if you will with
Representative Wilkes, as I will be her first guest on
those So let's everybody please pray for Stacy because if

(07:48):
anybody knows me, Graves knows this. I am a rambler
and it can take me a while to get to
a point. I've just given Graves free reiin to interrupt me.
I'm off the ball because sometimes I don't even know
where I'm going with a thought. So let's all please
pray for her as we will be recording soon and

(08:11):
hopefully I can announce when my episode will be airing,
and again to all my listeners and supporters. I ask
that you please tune into her podcast, but without any
further ado, so I don't have to interrupt everybody for
a break. I'm going to be answering Graves as forty
three day prayer with a please Graves take it over

(08:33):
with the government shutdown.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, so been a long time.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
This was the longest shutdown in government history, which is funny.
The second longest was also from Trump's first term, and
that they both happen in a similar way different points
of elections. But Democrats are so desperate now that they
did it before the midterms. So in the past when

(09:09):
they did this government shutdown, I think it.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Was for thirty ish.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Days, that was because they wanted to pump up the
base to get back to majority for the midterms. And
now they did the same thing but even worse snap
benefits like, Okay, we can have a conversation about that.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
I'm not all for that. But they also wanted to.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Get a million, sorry, one point five trillion dollars for
health care. Is the way that they claimed it. It
was not for United States citizens healthcare. Some of it
would have been, but the majority of that money and
you can they'll say it doesn't happen.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
You can go look at.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
State laws like New York, where they actually have written
into their healthcare bills in the state that a lot
of that money was going to go to would be
given to illegals for their health care for quote emergencies.
But let's be honest, they probably used it on everyday
type health care too. So they wanted money out of it, right,

(10:11):
That's one thing they wanted.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
They didn't get that part.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Sam mentioned this before the show that they did get.
The main thing was to turn their base up, and
so that was a lot of it. But I am proud,
I'll give credit where credits due that the Republicans did
not let them put the one and a half trillion
in there. What makes me mad is all the lies

(10:34):
that were being told in the media. How the Republicans
have the majority, so it's on us that the shutdown's happening.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
And it's just so simple that when a.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Filibuster is in play, you have to have sixty votes.
There are fifty three Republicans in the Senate. That means
we need seven more votes. It's really simple math. But
their people are so brainwashed that they just forget about that.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
And so they blame it on us. They blame it
on us.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
They don't get part of what they want, but they
let it go on long enough if they won the
elections they cared about this year.

Speaker 5 (11:12):
And there's one thing Sam probably knows more.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
About this than me is the eight senators that are
gonna get i think compensation or something for being spot
on by the guiding government that was thrown in there
before it actually got passed, which I'm not really sure
how I feel about that. I feel like that could
set a weird precedent.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
But you know, those are.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
My main things that you know, we can discuss and
get further into.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
But that's just the main stuff I wanted to point out.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think when it does come to like the eight
senators thing, I think there's a people in the house
working on maybe like removing that.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Like the eight senators that wins Graham uh Tommy Tuberville,
Dan Sullivan, Alaska, Marshall Blackburn and Bill Haggerdy Tennessee, Johnson
Limis and Josh Holly so like their phone records all
got leaked. Part of the word get requested from Jack Smith.

(12:20):
That's the whole Like artic Cross thing, and there's not
been like too much coverage about the artic Cross anything,
which I mean, I'm not really surprised by, but it
is still kind of crazy that during all that time period.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Like I haven't heard of that cell m hm, it was.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
It was kind of crazy still. You know, eight senators
got spied on, and they all you know, kind of
chimed in said the same thing of you know, why
am I being spied on? Bill Haggerty said the you know,
exact same thing where he said, the only thing that
every single one of us have in common is that
we're all Republicans. You know, That's the one thing we

(12:59):
have in called in so that whole fight scenario, it's
kind of crazy to think about that, Like that did
kind of happen during the Biden met then, But yeah,
that I think they each got five thousand, but there's
people trying to work on just to get rid of that.
I think I don't know too much more other than that,

(13:21):
But Graves is correct about one of the things that
the Democrats kept dying on this hill for was the
funding for health care, for the funding health care for
the illegal immigrants and all that, and you know, of
all the hills to die on. Imagine dying on that hill.

(13:44):
You know, I want health care not for but for
illegal citizens. And again it's such a crazy hill to
die on. But every single Democrats kept voting no during
the first wave of stuff. There were three that came over.
It was Fetterman of Pennsylvania, Angus King, who's the independent

(14:05):
in Maine but he Coxes with Democrats, and Cortes Masso
of Nevada. They all came over. I think Rand Paul
was voting no too. I think he even voted no
the last round, which it is what it is. So
they had all split off before then because they were like, yeah,

(14:26):
we hate the bill, but we don't want the government
to shut down. But Schumer, you know, kept holding out,
kept holding out, and they got what they wanted the energy.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
I heard people wanted to keep it through no Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, I heard that too.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
He wanted to go.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
He wanted to go longer. But you know, they accomplished
all that. They accomplished what they wanted. During the twenty
five elections of the Virginia elections, the new Jersey governor,
the Virginia governor, lieutenant governor, and Attorney general, and new
York City mayor, which I'm going to keep the buck.

(15:05):
I knew, Mom Donny was gonna win, Like I I
saw the writing on the wall. Even if a lot
of people got mad at kurs Sliwa for not dropping out,
Even if he didn't drop out and every single one
of his voters went to Cuomo, Mom Donnie still would
have won. The math was the math. It still wouldn't

(15:27):
have mattered.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yeah, Fluid didn't get a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, he didn't even crack. I said he'd be lucky
if he cracked ten percent. I don't even think he
cracked ten percent. I think he was I think was
eight or nine. Yeah, but he kept, you know, kept
trying to say I got the motion on my side.
I got the motion clearly. There was no motion. And
you know, it was just a.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
For him because he's done so much for the city
and safety and been there for his whole life.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Mm hmm. Well, I think now you know, his name's
going to have a little bit of like a bad taste.
No one's gonna want to do anything with him for
a while, which kind of sucks too, But you know,
at that point, again, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, And I do want to point out the the
craziness with the shutdown, and man, we could dedicate a
whole episode into New York City mayor. My gosh, that's
that's special. But you know, the dying on the heel
of you know, we're and they would say this, we're

(16:32):
doing this for the citizens of this country, for Americans,
And yet it's easy to point out what they were doing.
They yeah, And I just don't remember where in our
constitution we gave the government to help illegal immigrants. Again,

(16:54):
if it's in the constitution, the federal government can do it.
If it's not, it's it's up to the discretion of
the state. And I don't see anybody, a single person,
pointing out somewhere in the Constitution where it says we
look after the welfare of illegal immigrants. I don't see it.

(17:16):
You know what, I'll search you know what, Sam, I'll
send you a message. If I find it.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you what they say.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
They say that, oh moment, they just say that they
are like every person that is a resident who is
within the borders of the United States is supposed to
get due process and get rights and stuff.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
And it's like, well, no, not every person literally.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, because what is it. It's the twenty million, probably more
than more likely thirty million. You know, people that came
through here, and I'll give them credit the administration, give
them credit for what they're doing. They are rolling it,
you know, back their work and on it. They're getting
people gone, they're trying to get them deported, even like
the whole self deportation aspect of you self deport you

(18:12):
got a chance to come back, we'll get you know,
they give them like I think it's like a thousand dollars.
You know, we'll give you money. Just go back home
and wait your turn. You know. It's it's at the
point now where where we got to give them money
to leave versus we have you know, people in office
that just want to give them money to stay as
long as they vote for a certain party and get

(18:33):
rid of voter id laws. But you know, funny how
that works. With the shutdown, there was a period of
time where like a lot of the journalists even on
the Hill that you know, they couldn't do anything. Nothing
was happening on the hill, no one was really in
town besides like the senators for the most part, you
know that were just voting and voting to keep the government.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
At that covin.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
But for the most part, no one was really in town,
so journalists spent like time just like going after Mike Johnson.
They just kept like tweeting at Mike Johnson and trying
to like harass him on Twitter, which was which I
thought was kind of funny. It's just like, you guys
had nothing better to do, so you want to just
like pick a Twitter fight, X fight, whatever you want
to call it. I still call it Twitter. But that's

(19:17):
what they did. They just spent their time going after
Mike Johnson and harassing him online.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I'll give him credit for just some of the weirdest
stuff I've ever seen in my life happening during the
shutdown when it comes to political moves like, as you say,
attacking Johnson. And I remember someone saying, do you see
what's happening on Twitter? And I was like, what's happening now?
And I do remember someone specifically telling me about Johnson
and just being like, okay, so we're just it's that.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And it's like Grace pointed out where h they're spending
it as a a wol Republicans control of the House
the Senate, the presidency, all that, but they rely on
people being stupid and not knowing about the filibuster or
not knowing about the majority. You know, they rely on

(20:09):
that which unfortunately most a lot of people don't know
about the filibuster. And I know, like Trump or President
Trump is called for eliminating philibuster. I don't exactly know
how to feel about that. That's not my I'm not
an expert in any kind of those policies. To me,
it sounds like a bad idea. But you know what
do I know, I'll I'll have.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
To say I disagree with it because as soon as
we don't have a conservative majority, which you can make
the argument we don't have it now, but as soon
as say President Trump leaves and we don't even have
someone in the White House defending us, say, you know,
in the next election, just for the worst case scenario,
the Democrats get the majority, that filibuster is designed to

(20:54):
save us. Now, is it being abused? A hundred percent?
And should people become aware of the filibuster also one
hundred percent if the government is trying to are the
Democrats in this case are trying to say, look, you know,
it's the Republican's fault. We could shoot back to the

(21:14):
education system of this country. People should know about the
filibuster and know, yes, it's there as a protection of
over of majorities. We're not I forgot the term, but
you know, we want to make sure every site is
represented here in this country. But you're right, it's the

(21:35):
fact that people don't know about it, and it's the
Democrats weaponizing it like they have, just like they weaponized
the judicial system when they went after Trump, and then
you know, act like it's a shock of a lifetime
when Trump actually, you know, says well, y'all abuse power,
and y'all are corrupt and y'all broken laws. So yes,
y'all being investigated for crimes. And you know, the Democrats,

(21:57):
Oh my gosh, he's weaponizing the law. Yeah, yeah, y'all
are funny, but gosh amighty, yeah, no, I'll disagree with it,
but I will say, in this case, there needs to
be a better way to get the budget passed. And
I know one of my favorite ones, oh gosh, who

(22:20):
put it forth? I think Macy said that we should,
you know, approve a budget by like a separated basics,
like Okay, let's let's go by this.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
To him forever.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, they the weaponization of the judicial thing. But yeah,
go section BI section. So the stuff that we all
agree on, let's just say in this case, the VA
providing stuff for veterans, vote on that, and then that

(22:55):
also makes it so you can if someone votes against
something just because they want to keep the government shut down,
it's a lot more apparent what they're voting against. That's
one of my solutions to the problem. As I said, though,
I didn't really dive into it deep. I just kind
of happened to find that opinion out there and agree

(23:17):
with it, but you know, I haven't really dived into
it per se.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Hey, sorry to guys. Sorry to cut you guys off.
As of four minutes ago, according to Kobesi Letter, some
other accounts going on on Twitter and Margie Taylor being herself,
there's a video now she is resigning from Congress in January.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Oh my gosh. Let's uh, let's take a quick commercial
break and rebound. Yeah, uh, we'll be right back after
this message.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Marjorie Marjorie Taylor Green.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Welcome back to the longest commercial break in the podcast history.
Let us all please thank Sam. We're still on as
long as he did. I had to get suffered from
my family, which was unexpected, and poor Graves has had
to leave just due to connection and our platform that

(24:27):
we record the podcast are not really cooperate cooperating with
us tonight. But let me we we were joking about
a party earlier, so let me I don't think we're
going to get into that this show just yet.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
That's one of those shows that that will get me
canceled again.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
And it's just it's happened so recently. Let's just take
a break, Harrison.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Can you not get yourself canceled for you know, a
couple of weeks or something. Man, just a couple weeks
to tell you how to do it?

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I know, it's just so hard. I'm so opinionated, Deag Nabbott.
I'll blame Trump for aspiring me to get canceled. I
can do that because he was the one that kind
of inspired me. Our played a role in making me
wanting to get involved. So shout out to our lovely president.
Keep up the great work, mister president. But we do

(25:23):
have some news, as we talked about right before the
commercial break, which by the time y'all listen to this
podcast might be coming out a bit more frequently, because
when we saw it, it was really only Fox had
announced it, and now I see a couple of news

(25:43):
outlets making a press about it. But we didn't want
to touch on this, even though it's not really on
the lineup for tonight, which is mt G Taylor green
resigning effective immediately January, I think fifth of resigning from Congress.

(26:07):
I don't really know miss Greenwell. I'll say it, you know,
right here, and just being honest, I don't know Representative Greenwell.
I have heard of her name a couple of times,
but I've never really dived into a record. And of
course I'm one of those people I like to have

(26:28):
all the facts before I disout judgment. So I will
say this. I think no one is opposed to or
don't know the idea that I am a Thomas Macy
fan and he supported her, so I don't I don't
really know how to feel because again President Trump came

(26:49):
out against her. I haven't done any research. So I
have two people that I do respect and admire telling
me two separate things, and so I'll probably address it
on another episode. But this is news, and I do
want to tell at least her side of things, as

(27:09):
Sam knows, as you all know, our listeners know, news
is very fast paced when it comes to politics, and
the truth can always be hidden sometimes, So I do
want to point out this is just from her perspective.
We're not counting in Trump, We're not counting in the Democrats,
we're not counting in who might be telling the truth.

(27:32):
I'm just gonna kind of report what she said, and
we're just going to kind of move on to the
redistricting because to my knowledge, me and Sam kind of
talked about this during the break. I don't know Green
that well, so I can't really talk about her service
or talk about if it's a loss to the conservative

(27:52):
movement yet that she's stepped down. As I said, that's
going to take a bit more research on my end.
Sam is welcome to help out in that regard. Anytime
I can get free labor from Sam, I'm wonna take it.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
But that's what I do best, what I do best.
But yes, it just just to can throw my two
cents on it. Yeah, it kind of feels like not
the end of an era, but like she assumed office
in twenty twenty one, so she's only been there for
five years now, but during like the five year period,

(28:28):
it's just kind of she I mean, she was kind
of a firebrand, you know, she was headstrong, dove out,
headfirst and everything. And he was the chair of the
Doge subcommittee. Watched plenty of those committee hearings on you know,
the Doge people, all the reps in that committee. They're

(28:51):
actually they were really fun to watch, just because it
was it got to the Democrats and like Jasmine Crockett
just kind of just screaming at each other for a second,
and then Brandon Gilt kind of just puts them in
their place. Who's awesome, by the way, he's congresson from Texas.
He's super cool. But yeah, it's kind of a shock

(29:11):
to really say the least.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
That's really all Like I guess I can't compute it
if that means sense, Like I'm completely in shock. You know,
I've talked about how long the break was. I mean
I was gone for thirty forty minutes getting this food.
Sam was doing research. I came back, we probably talked
for another twenty thirty minutes. Knowing us me and Sam

(29:34):
will start talking and we got come so off topic
wasn't even funny. I still don't know how we did that,
but I guess that's a sign of a good friendship. Sam.
We can't talk about anything, but that's really all I
can say about it right now is I'm just utterly
in shock. As I said, I've been hearing good things

(29:54):
about her recently. I heard some things from Trump recently,
and before I could form in a piece onion, boom,
she's gone. I know she's been in Congress for five years.
But you know, as I've expressed on the show before,
there's so many senators of so many representatives. I can't
know everybody. I'll try my best, but I'm a Mississippi guy.

(30:18):
I focus on Mississippi a lot.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
That's kind of what I'm for in the are of
little group. I kind of know a little bit about
everybody for the most part, at least the Republicans anyway,
a lot of the Democrats I keep tabs on. But
then you get to like the random people in like
California and New York, and I just diagno idea who
they are mental patients exactly. So yeah, it's actually jumping

(30:44):
and jumping in from that. I think it might be
a good segue into the redistricting, Harrison, if you want
to get into that.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah, I'll tell everybody that we're just kind of in shock.
She lists a lot of reasons for her resignation. We'll
kind of dive into that next episode. Give it a
week to let more stuff come up, because I'm sure
she will be asked about it. I'm sure she might
release some more I'm sure we'll have to see President

(31:13):
Trump's reaction, the conservative movements reaction, and I'd love to
kind of talk about it more in detail. So I'm
gonna agree with Sam here. Stay in tune for next
week's Conservative Colonel Podcast as we dive into it. It'll
be a bit weird because next week is Thanksgiving, so
we might release an early episode, might not, who the

(31:34):
heck knows. We'll figure it out when the time comes.
But yeah, no, let's go into redistricting because that's kind
of one of the other topics for tonight. And we
only got about thirty minutes left and we'll have to
take another commercial break at some point, and there's just
not enough information right now for me to form an
opinion on the Green resignation. But just wanted y'all to

(31:55):
be informed of it and to know that there's going
to be two sides and the truth somewhere in the middle.
And so we'll we'll keep you a praise that as
more information comes out. So Sam taken away.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, So, I mean the whole redistricting thing kind of
really started. Someone set it off about, you know, the
House from already having like a slim majority. It was
a two seat majority whenever every single seat was filled.
There's one seat not filled as of right now as
of November. There's a special election in Tennessee going on.

(32:30):
So they started getting like to these redistricting wars and
doing mid decade redistricting. It started in Texas and there
was the whole fight in Texas. The state Democrats left
office that way they didn't have to vote on it.
And it was actually really funny by the time that
they all came back. They pretty much got forced to

(32:52):
come back because they got their paychecks basically withheld because
they're like, well, we can't we can't prevent you from
getting paid, but we can change how you get paid.
And it was paper checks instead of like a direct
deposit into a bank account. It was like, hey, you
want your money. You've got to come get your money.
And so that started there. But then Gavin Newsom may

(33:14):
have fit and threatened to, you know, draw five seats
to cancel out the five seats in Texas. Which that
was one of the things in this November on the
ballots that really like Democrats really want on was Prop fifty.
And I was talking to a buddy of ours and
they did like a survey and it was the majority

(33:36):
of people in the survey said they voted for Prop
fifty because they thought it was a way to impeach
Trump in California first place. So that that all happened,
and they a lot of other states started jumping in.

(33:58):
What's really funny though, is like a lot of Domocrat
states can't jerrymander because they basically already do. The prime
example is Illinois. And even like there's two districts in
Maryland where it looks like it looks like scoliosis. It
just looks like a big giant like s everywhere in Maryland.

(34:20):
And so a lot of the Republican states, Kansas has
been back and forth. They have a blue seat they
can get rid of. They're doing it. They're not doing it.
The State Senate president said, no, we're doing it. I
haven't really heard of money much more. Just today, South
Carolina said that there might be some motion in South

(34:42):
Carolina to get rid of their one blue seat. The
Indiana they can get rid of two seats. And the
Republican state senators there's a few of them there that
are no, we're not doing it, we don't want to
do it. And Trump has already said all right, I'm
down the primary theom and now the governor said the
same thing. He's like, I gotta do what I gotta do.

(35:04):
You know we're going to do this. You know, we
can do this easy way of the hard way. So
there's two seats there. I want Nebraska to do it
because Don Bacon, who's a very moderate Republican, like he's
pretty moderate, he's pretty centrals basically once it is retiring,
and we're going to lose that seat anyway because his

(35:25):
area is Omaha, and Omaha is like the one blue spot.
It gave Kamala Harris electoral vote and Joe Biden and
I think even Clinton, no, no, not Clinton, it was
just Biden and Kamala gave them an electoral point. So
I would want them to read district Florida, they might

(35:46):
be able to. They can get like maybe three or
five seats out of Florida, especially if they overturn the
voting like VRA districts voting rights as distris where it's
like you have to have like minority representation. If they
overdo that, then you know, game on. A bunch of
states can draw out blue seats, including Mississippi the eat
and so y'all have an opportunity to get rid of

(36:08):
Benny Thompson. I know Braves would love that the most
because he just Thompson.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
If you're you're a Mississippi and you have a strong
dislike for Benny Thompson because it makes no sense why
a super or used to be a super conservative state
has this one section just for a Democrat just to
have up there. I wouldn't mind it in the state level,
and uh, for the national level. I kind of wanted

(36:38):
to hear your opinion on it. So, you know, we've
heard a lot about how it's wrong to do, and
of course the Democrats they always say something's wrong to
do after they've done it. So you know, what, what
do you think is this an honest to goodness good
thing for the Republicans to do in their states for
the national government and of course their state governments, because

(36:59):
this could have an effect where if you do it
on the national level, well heck, you can do it
on your state level redistrict, and whichever party is in
control at the time, all of a sudden has a
pretty strong grip over that state.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So I mean, I would say Democrats have already done
it for years and Republicans just have it. So if
they're doing it, let's level the playing field. And you're
gonna hear that argument. You're gonna hear other arguments of like, well,
you know, you know, why should we stoop to their level.
If this was the other way around, they would one
hundred percent do it to the Republicans. So they absolutely would.

(37:37):
There's no reason why they wouldn't. They did it in
two districts in twenty twenty four. There was the courts
made Alabama in Louisiana redraw congressional seat of THEIRS for
more minority representation, so we lost two seats there. New
York also did mid decade, not barely even the decade redistricting.

(37:59):
They redrew lines in twenty twenty four and we lost
three seats in New York whenever we had a huge
red wave in twenty twenty two from the governor's election,
so we lost three seats there, and we already lost
a seat in Alabama, and we lost a seat the
one in Louisiana specifically, it is a straight line from

(38:21):
Shreveport all the way to I think Baton Rouge about
it is just a straight blue line. And they just
did it again recently. They made the courts or they
made Utah redraw maps. They submitted a map and a
judge said, no, we're going to use this map, and
it basically turned one of their districts into a giant

(38:41):
blue dot in Salt Lake City and it went from
like a Trump plus twenty four to a Kamala Harris
plus twenty twenty four something like that. So they just
made that see a dem sinkle. So you know, they
still do it to us whenever they can they can.
So why.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
And I'll say this, the reason I asked your opinion
on it is I'm still forming an opinion. I'm very
honest with stuff like that. I'm still forming an opinion
simply because in Mississippi, Delbert the Democrat, sorry, it's just
it's been a while since I got to say it.
We've missed so good. It felt good. I've missed you

(39:23):
in the news, Delbert. But Delbert the Democrat. I don't
know if you know this, Sam, but one of our
most conservative voices in the Senate, we redistrict I think
every ten years here in Mississippi, and it was time.
And so Delbert when he redistricted the Mississippi state level,

(39:43):
he cut out this Republican seat and combined it with
a majority Democrat area. And now she's fighting against a
Democrat stronghold here in Mississippi, and there's no way she
can win. So she lost her seat. And so that's
what my thing is. I'm a bit worried that at
some point it could come back to Biyas, But as

(40:05):
you said, the thing that kind of gets me going
on it is the fact that they've been doing it
for years anyway, So why not fight for with fire
In this case, redistrict strengthen our states. And I know,
for instance, one of the things that popped in my
head as soon as I heard about this, goy Lee,
we could really use redistricting here on the national level

(40:27):
of Mississippi and in the state level to strengthen our
hold of this state because, uh, Sam, we've talked about
on the show before. I don't know if you've been on,
but Mississippi is weird. We're we were majority conservative or Republican,
but we're turning purple.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Well, it's I think it also to do with maybe
the optics of the state too, because you guys have
very conservative people, but then some of your representatives, you know,
obviously not saying any names or whatever, I cannot all
the way conservative. That's the issue there. So why vote
for those people? Why vote I guess in general in

(41:06):
the first place to some But it's like you said,
a lot of them have been doing this for year.
A lot of Democrats have done it for years. Like
I said, Illinois is a prime example. Illinois has seventeen
congressional seats, and twelve of them are splintered around Chicago.

(41:28):
Like there's there's only three Republicans in the state, and
they made one of their they made one of the
Republican areas. It kind of looks like pac Man. It
just looks like like this, and there's just a blue
line through it. To have another blue seat Oregon, Oregon
has six districts, and the only Republican district there is

(41:52):
the entire right half of the state. That's why there's
like twelve or thirteen counties wanting to secede away from
Oregon and become part of Idaho and do the whole
Greater Idaho thing. In four of those seats are splintered
out from Portland. Washington State is the same thing. There's
seats splintering around Seattle. California is the prime example out

(42:15):
of all of them. There's seats splintered around San Francisco, LA.
Any blue state has seats like that. And the Democrats
in Virginia have also threatened to do the redistricting and
just splinter everything from like Cloud in Fairfax County is

(42:36):
any of the Blue strongholds.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Basically, Virginia definitely needs it to save itself. I have
been completely shocked by Virginia. And I know, Sam, you
got a special case there since you worked there exactly.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, then it's really funny because a West Virginia State
senator I follow him on Twitter, Chris Rose or Chris Smith,
one of the two I can't remember right on the
top of my head. Now he's now basically tried introducing
the idea that, like of Greater Idaho, but for West Virginia,
of having a bunch of these like conservative counties all
on the border in Virginia in parts of Maryland too,

(43:13):
to secede away from the states and join West Virginia.
He's thrown that idea out there, and I'm like, you
know what, I believe in greater West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
So well, it's funny to me because you know, the
fun fact about being a government that started by saying,
you know what, we're seceding from Great England from England
is the fact that just like a Baptist church, there's
a lot of people that though it around is all right,
we're just done, and it's become a joke. But it's

(43:43):
making me smile because the only reason West Virginia's here
is because they decided to succede from Virginia. You know
we Yeah, I hear it all the time with like
people that I were with too.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
But you know what, I you know, even though I
don't live in the state obviously anymore, I you know,
it's where I'm from, born and raised families, they're all that,
and so I mean, I I got it. On my
I have it's tattooed on my arm. You can't really tell,
but I recently, you know, mountains and then it says
take me home underneath of it. So I got it

(44:15):
tattooed on me. And you know, there's always gonna be
a love for the state. And I'm glad there's a
lot of really good Republicans in the state. Pat Morris,
he's a good governor of the congressman the represents area
I'm from, Riley Moore, super awesome. I am very much
happy with him. But I wish, you know, obviously it

(44:36):
was the case for a lot of the other states.
You know, I wish there was more stuff like that
in Mississippi where you know, you you guys got talent there.
It's just it's going to take a second.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
It will, and I have faith.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Back to the point, the fact of the matter is
to kind of maybe finishing. I am in a decade redistricting.
I'm all for it again. They've done it to us
for years, so why not fight back. We're finally not
a party anymore. The Republican Party, I don't want to say,
was a party of losers by any stretch of the word.

(45:15):
They just got comfortable winning every once in a while,
and it was like, Okay, we won, We're cool with that,
and so we're gonna let other people win and then
we'll come back and win again. Eventually. You know, why
not keep winning? This is one of the ways where
we can keep winning. And again, there's a bunch of
these states that all get on board to be able

(45:36):
to do it. So absolutely do it. I mean, they
redrew a seat in North Carolina, so we're gonna at
least get a seat there.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Well, I'm glad you mentioned that, Sam, because I've been
saying on the show for years, if you want to
get the federal government under control, get your state under control,
if you get your state conservative, if you get them
to be real conservative that you use all of a sudden,
guess who that affects, That affects your representation from that

(46:05):
state on the national level, and then the federal government
will fall back in line. We could potentially drain the swamp. Finally,
the fact that matter, I've told people that since got elected,
the poor man, you have one guy up there trying
to drain the swamp. The guy needs help people, and
the only way to do that is to get your

(46:25):
states in line, and so I the more you say it,
the more I think I'm for redistricting. By the way,
I'm for you. For West Virginia, Let's get the great
state of what'd you call it, the Great.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
West Virginia, Greater Greater West Virginia, Greater Idaho. They wanted, like,
it's like, it's basically greater West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
Well, I'll say it like this. I believe any state
or any group because has that right in this government. Again,
we were founded on secession. And of course, oh, I
don't know if you know this, but in Louisiana, there
was a place close to New Orleans and they hated
the liberal ideology that New Orleans put on their area,

(47:09):
so they petitioned to secede from the city of New
Orleans and they form their own city that's red. H So, yeah,
and you got to think of poor northern California. I know,
their majority conservative and they're probably getting tired of just
the constant Well.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
That's why there was always a split too, because like
the right half of the state is basically all red
besides a blue area which I think Sacramento, but I'm
not one hundred percent. And they talked about wanting to
see it away from California or not, like joining the state.
Maybe they do their own state something I don't know,
but like it's all the coast is all blue. Besides

(47:49):
like one little red dot in a mix of all
the blue, and it was Sandy or Orange County specifically
San Diego, but like Orange County are well again. It's
it's just crazy to think about. It's also really funny
that whenever Democrats do it, it's just redistricting, but then
Republicans do it, then it's jerrymandering. I've noticed that classbate

(48:14):
and switch. But no, whenever it comes to the redistricting flight, yeah, no,
all for it. Let's do it. You have the power
to be able to do it, so why not do it?
Why not be a party of winners and keep winning.
Mind you, we won the presidency, we won the Senate,
we won the House, we cleaned we won the popular vote.

(48:34):
So keep winning, keep going, keep the momentum going. Why
do you want to stop that momentum because you get
comfortable winning every once in a while. Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I'll put it like this. I think the states obviously
have the power to redistrict how they wish and if
your state just really likes the conservative philosophy, the conservative
values that can deservedive movement, what's stopping you? You know
I've said it. I'll say it on the show till

(49:06):
I'm blue in the dead gum face. The Tenth Amendment
states all powers not delegated in this document to the
federal government of the power of the states. Since the
federal government doesn't have that in the Constitution. If I'm
not mistaken, guess what states do it? The Democrats have
been doing it for years. I pulled up Mississippi's districts

(49:29):
and I'm not even getting into our four district system
right now, and my gosh, I looked at it. Bloody awful.
We need to do it, But my gosh, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I will say real quick, if you wanted to look
up the Ohio map that they passed. I'm very upset
about the Ohio map because they based the Republicans there,
turned it into a compromise map where they've made one
seat more red that Trump has already been winning this seat.
It's Ohio nine. As Marcia captor, they she kept winning
that seat all or he's won that seat like three

(50:06):
the past three times he's run now, so they made
that seemed more red to finally, but they made one
seat more blue, and it's Ohio thirteen, the thirteenth district.
He only lost that seat by like point maybe a point,
maybe like point two a point at most. And they
made that seat more blue. And then they turned another
seat into a competitive seat. And it just looks ugly.

(50:29):
It looks like like half like half a rectangle just
gave up and a little got a little swish down
in and they made another district. It looks like half
a question mark.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It's ugly. It looks ugly, and I don't like it.
I don't like that they did that.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
What is this districting?

Speaker 2 (50:56):
It is an ugly map. There are people better at
redistricting on Twitter. We could have had a thirteen to two.
We could have had thirteen two. Now it's like twelve
or thirteen one and one something like that. By the
time you get to like the competitive one, it's terrible
and ugly. And I hate that map. I wish they
would have just went all out with it and done

(51:17):
like thirteen two like they probably could. It's Ohio now,
Ohio's a pretty red state. Now it's not really a
swing state anymore, and they just they gave up on it.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I'm just I'm looking at these and I'm just so
so confused.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Like to see what I'm saying about the two districts
in particular. You see what you're looking right at it?
Like I said, it's they got half a question mark
in an area. It's suck. It sucks. I hate that map.
It's just it's really confusing, a compromise map, and it sucks.

(52:05):
Is it what it is?

Speaker 3 (52:09):
So you say Ohio is mainly conservative.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Now, I mean, I'm not saying conservative. But Trump's wonted
the past three elections we had, there was a super
majority between the governor, state Senate, state House, two Republican senators.
They finally got rid of shared brown in the last election.
It is a by means a red state. Same thing

(52:35):
with same with Florida. There's a million more Republicans in Florida.
Now Florida was a swing state. Florida's not a swing
state anymore. Keep the keep the foot on the gas,
keep the pedal to the metal, keep the momentum going.
Why you only get comfortable winning these battles every so often.
I don't understand it. Why not just keep winning?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Here's my thing about the whole compromise system. It's great
to compromise. Our country was founded on compromise. But I've
noticed a pattern, Sam, And tell me if you've noticed
it too. We'll compromise in good faith that the Democrats,
when they're in power, will compromise with us. Sam, you
you know what I've noticed hasn't been happening any.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
And what would that be, Harrison?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
The Democrats compromising with us?

Speaker 2 (53:25):
It's it's exactly like what happened in Bush's first term
whenever he signed a bill with Democrats after Democrats are
saying no, it's not going to raise taxes, and gets
what happens to raise taxes. That's what cost him a
second term was getting siopped by Democrats. You know what
I'm talking about. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what happened. They're
going to do it, So guess what, why not fight back?

(53:48):
Why not actually win? It makes no sense to me.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Well, I mean, if if you're not gonna represent with honor,
if you're gonna say, hey, y'all need to compromise, but
you're not willing to come to the table, but we're
the ones in power. I mean, that's like Mississippi. Mississippi
will compromise with the like twelve Democrats we have and

(54:13):
everybody's like twos. We have a supermajority. Are we used to?
This is the reason I want the super majority back.
It's a statement from the people of the state that
we want conservative values. Only if we didn't, we wouldn't
have a supermajority. But also, like I've noticed and it's
happened the same thing on the federal level. Republicans will compromised.

(54:34):
But okay, guys, we'll come to the table. But Democrats
never compromise. They want to just push us farther and
farther to the left. They've never once in my time
paying attention to politics, been like you know what, guys,
we're sorry, we'll come to the table. Even when the
government shut down, it was like pulling teeth to get
them to compromise.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Exactly. Well, like whenever whatever comes to the VR a scenario,
if the Supreme Court does overturn Vra, the Republicans could
get like I think I saw something up to like
nineteen seats. Basically it'd be over because then you perspective.
You're getting rid of some the seats in Alabama to turn,

(55:19):
You're getting rid of the seats in Louisia to turn,
a bunch of seats in Florida, the one blue seat
in Kentucky, the one blue seat in Tennessee, Mississippi. You're
getting rid of a seat there. A bunch of those
seats are VR protected if you get rid of that.
I'm not now, I don't know if we're advocating overturning

(55:40):
VR or not. I have no too much opinions on it.
But if we're in the process where some of these
districts we can redistrict them and not just make them
as competitive, but you know, split them in our favor
after Democrats have done it for years, then absolutely why
not The V a whole separate issue. I'm not educated

(56:02):
enough to know that, but but the vote for the
most part right now, any seat that you can change,
absolutely go for it. Why wouldn't you, especially when you
know you have the power. That's why North Carolina did it.
How North Carolina was It basically comes down between their
state House and state Senate, the governor and like their

(56:25):
state's constitution can't veto when it comes to like redistricting
and stuff like that, they have no the governor can't
do anything about it because they have a democratic governor.
So that's how they were able to switch a seat around.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Well, I mean again, if your state is giving you
a mandate my opinion, if you are a red state,
and again the Democrats have done it. We keep trying
to come to this imaginary table that the Democrats keep flipping.
Mind you, I don't see what the whole bad thing

(57:01):
is going to be about it. If if you were
in a state like I'm trying to think of a
battle ground state where it would mean a lot more
to take away a couple of seats or two, you
could you could make the argument there that you're suppressing voices.
But Mississippi are Florida. Florida is a bit better one

(57:22):
because Florida acts a lot more conservative than we do. Uh,
it's a red state. Now you have the people telling
you what they want their government to be. I just
don't see the problem within those cases.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Mh. It sounds like we're kind of on the same
page for the most part.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Hey, look at us.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You know we did it. We did it.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Uh, that's the side of a great uh A great
conservative talk right there, ladies and gentlemen. I didn't really
have an opinion on this matter coming in, but I
will say this, I think Sam has made me go
for it, especially in states that are read like, ohhi,
what are you doing what again?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I told you that that makes me mad. It makes
no sense to me. I'm looking at it. It's on
the side of my screen and it's just atrocity, Like
there's I thought I read something at one point where
Nevada versus the swing state now Trump in twenty four thankfully,
and they have a Republican governor too that they adopted

(58:33):
the idea, or they may want to try the idea
of doing an independent redistricting committee, which may help them
because it's one county and it's Clark County, which is
Vegas where Vegas is that basically rules the entire state
because that's where all the population is, and there's only

(58:54):
one Republican there and he represents basically the top half
of the state. And there's another seat it's Nevada's fourth
district with Stephen Horsford, where it's kind of a lot
of the middle of the state. But because they spliced
in parts of Clark County. That's why it's still blue.
And it's like North Vegas basically, but again it's part

(59:15):
of Clark County, and Clark County is massive, It's almost
the entire bottom of the state. But yeah, my gosh,
as long as it's there, you know, that's why it's blue.
And they still have two Democrat senators. But there's also
a lot of third party in Nevada. There's a lot
of libertarian and independent, so hey, there's room to come over.

(59:36):
We can agree on some things independence, but that's beside
the point. The point is a lot of the redistricting fights,
you know, don't give up on it. I think there
needs to be more pressure on Kansas. There needs to
be more pressure in Nebraska. There needs to be maybe

(59:59):
even pressure in New Hampshire because New Hampshire has Republicans
state House, the state Senate, and governor. But the governor
said no, shouldn't want to read destriates. So I think
there needs to be some pressure there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I couldn't agree more. Again, when when you have these areas,
and I'm not a fan, like I'm not trying to say,
for instance, I'm gonna take Nevada because you just made
a good point. I'm not saying that, you know Los
Angeles or no, not los Angeles, where am I at
Vegas should not have their liberal voices met? This is

(01:00:39):
a country of equal voice. But should they be controlling
the whole dead gum state.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
But like just like you said in what was the
state you just mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I'm having a brain park New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
New Hampshire Senate's Republican.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Correct, Yes, So basically to give you the breakdown, so, yes,
New Hampshon has been voting blue. Federally. They have two
Democrat senators, but on the state level itself, Republicans control
the House, They controlled the state Senate, they control the governor.
They just had a Republican governor, Christannunu. Now there's a

(01:01:18):
new governor, Kelly Iode.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And he's a Republican. Again, that's a Republican.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
So out of four hundred seats in New Hampshire they
go off by Kamaro legislature. There are four hundred seats
there are are Of those four hundred seats, two hundred
and seventeen are Republican, there's one hundred and seventy seven Democratic,

(01:01:44):
there's one independent there's five vacant. No matter what which
way you do the math. The Republicans have the majority
in that state House and state Senate and they control
the governorship. But the governor said, no, you shouldn't wanted
to redistricting. And I get it, it's New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
There's a lot of Libertarians, but that shouldn't factor into
it for a Republican.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I mean, if you say you're a Republican anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah, I mean, that's my thing. The only person researching
redishing would effect in that scenario is the Democrats, not
the Libertarians. Heck, half the Libertarians I know vote Republican anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Because and now they have like because they have a
Senate seat coming up. There's now a Congressional seat open
that you can change to make more Republican. And you
can even win the Senate seat too because Johnson Knew,
who is a former Senator, and the name sin new
carries a lot of weight in New Hampshire. He's running.
So now you can have a Republican governor and we
can take away something from the Democrats. But again, why

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you don't want to does not make sense to me.
Why do you not want to win if you're in
a like if you're in a competition, you're playing, you know,
playing baseball, playing basketball or whatever, why don't you want
to be on the winning team. Why don't you want
to help your team win?

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Well, to me, it's the reasoning saying that it would
affect libertarians. Are we cutting out of a Libertarian seat.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
That I don't know about? It's not like, it's not that,
is it? The Libertarians might be voting state Republican, but
then Democrat federally. I don't understand New Hampshire. I don't
understand the optics, the history of New Hampshire, any of that.
It's like how Vermont has Democrat state Senate, state House,
but they have a very socially liberal Republican governor that

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endorsed Kamala Harris for President Scott Scott something Phil.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Stott is just confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Yeah, he endorsed Kamala Harrison twenty twenty four in case Trump.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
But from my viewpoint, it just doesn't make any sense
because the only people that you're hurting are the liberals,
not the libertarians, not the conservatives. You're hurting a group
that doesn't have a major in your state.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
And again, if you're getting these major majorities in my Like,
what did we say when Trump won he won the
popular vote and the electoral college. That is a mandate.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
That something's got to change.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yeah, and if your state is giving you a mandate
as well, I don't understand how people can look at
it and be like, oh, well, I don't know you're like, again,
take Mississippi a year ago. Heck no, take take Mississippi
almost four years ago. That way, we have the supermajority back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
And and even then, like I understand that, Like Kamala
Harris won New Hampshire, but not by much. There's the reason.
There was a whole thing of like that. That's why
she dropped out, or that's why Biden dropped out. Biden
would have lost New Hampshire. Biden would have lost maybe Virginia.
Biden would have lost maybe New Mexico. That's why Trump
did a rally in New Mexico. There was like one
poll about it, and Kamala one New Hampshire. Again, not

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by much. It's New Hampshire is a workable state, especially
having a Republican majority. Trump Ala lost New Hampshire by
around three by around three about three points. That's within
swing state odds. So there was a mandate from that
state almost to make things change, but for some reason

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party doesn't want to listen or do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
It's like I'm pulling it up and I'm trying to
look at it a bit more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to do. How you know,
a gaggle of us can all make sense more than
people that have been doing this for thirty years when
they're supposed to have the experience for thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Yeah, like I'm trying to that's not right. I'm trying
to pull it up anyway. But like again, let's let's
just see if this works before New Hampshire House.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Oh, New Hampshire General Assembly, do General Assembly. Okay, you'll
be able to pull it up that way. That's how
I did it back in that. But New Hampshire can
be a competitive district if you actually do redistricting. There's
there's two congressional seats, so redistrict the one seat that's
already somewhat competitive. So like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
They have here, I mean they only have one independent
seat and that's in the House of their state. So again,
if we're talking about hurting libertaria again, I'm not understanding

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her reasoning. I'm trying. I'm one of those people. I'll
try with you, but when it makes no sense and
won'll tell you it makes no sense because from what
I'm seeing, Republicans have a pretty good majority, and it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Okay, at least in the state with Kansas anyway, they
got the state house, state Senate, there's a Democrat governor,
so there might be a way to how they get
anything done in that state is by vetelling her Vetos Missouri,
you might be able to redistrict a seat there. A Nebraska.

(01:07:56):
I think Nebraska's the exact same way. They just haven't
done it, which to me, why you don't want to
do that, I have no no idea. It just doesn't
make any sense to me, especially because they had a
state senator there that I think gave the supermajority in
the state Senate. He flipped from Democrats to Republican because
he's pro life, and the Democrat party didn't want to

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back him up because he was pro life, so he
left the party to be a Republican.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
It's just again, it's the mandate that's that's killed him here,
and when you get a mandate like this, I don't
understand why Republicans are so like, NA, we're good, We're
not going to follow the will of the people. And
it's it's blowing my mind. I did not know anything

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about redistricting.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
It's like a rabbit hole. He kind of just gets
like sucked down into it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
We've spoke for forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah, yeah, I know you need so let's I think
we do a commercial break here, so and I know
this is your podcast, so I'll let you be the
judge of that, but I think we need to do
a break.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
I think the ship is sailed on the break there,
big dog, We're we're actually out of time. I guess
is there anything you want to say else? Someone redistricting?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Whatever state you listen to in this, whether it be Indiana,
be Indiana, Kansas, Nebraska, maybe New Hampshire will throw them
and the not. Call your representatives, call whoever, whatever you
need to do, and put pressure on them, tell them

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to read district. So that way we maintain a majority
in the House. In that way, after twenty six after midterms,
we can still have a majority between the House and
even the Senate to and have the presidency to let
President Trump do what the American people elected him to do,
and that has to change things. We you know, cleaned

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up three hundred and twelve electoral votes, popular vote, three
branches in the every single department that we can think of.
Why not win? Be it a group of winners. Don't
be losers, be winners.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I don't know if Sam was clear enough for everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You know, I hate to like sounds so blunt, but oh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
No, that's we welcome in it on this show, man.
But I want to thank Sam for coming on. And
in case you don't know, I agree with Sam. I
think I've made that clear during during this whole conversation. Uh.
And that's probably my favorite. This is one of my
favorite episodes simply because of the conversation me and Sam

(01:10:51):
had just now a forty minute conversation somehow about redistricting
when I first when we first talked about it, but
for the show even started, I might have told you Sam,
I don't remember if not. This all kind of runs
together after an hour and twelve minutes, but I was like,
I'm kind of unsure on redistricting because in Mississippi it's

(01:11:14):
been used against us by a Republican of all people
are Republican Delbert. But you know, hearing your case for
it has really kind of turned me on that. And
I feel like, if your people are telling you to redistrict,
you should do it, so I will. I'm going to
echo what Sam said and say, everybody please contact your representative,

(01:11:36):
tell them it's time. It's time we help President Trump,
It's time we help our own states Mississippi. Listen, We'll see.
But I want to thank Sam for coming on. He
made this show real easy for me. I can kind
of sometimes be lost without my partner in crime, Graves.
And the fact that we had to take a forty

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minute recess of this episode right slam dab in the
middle of it. I can't thank Sam enough. And for
Sam to do research during that time. I was getting
this stuff for the breaking news we covered for the redistricting,
pulling up stuff on his computer. If you heard that
typing in your.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
They heard it. They definitely hurt me. I'm a quick
clack away, but and this is something that I followed
a lot anyway, and at least in our kind of circle,
I typically kind of know what's going on, especially when
it comes to the competitive sides of everything. That's the
other thing for like the House Races Center, racism and governor.

(01:12:38):
But it's it's having access to that information and being
able to recite it anyway. A lot goes into it,
and uh, you know, it's it's like when you have
conversations like this that someone like like what Harrison said,
who came into a redistricting conversation not knowing too too much,

(01:12:59):
hearing about it but not really following it and hearing
someone you know, lay out their case and being able
to change someone's mind and offer a fresh perspective is
kind of what we were found upon. I think for
the most part is just the power of conversation and

(01:13:19):
the access to knowledge has a lot to that. So
I would always encourage people to do research, deep dive,
go nuts, go crazy, sound like a conspiracy theorist half
the time, and just you know, just deep dive down
and go for it. But yeah, I know, it's this
is something that I follow and it's obviously I think
realizing now definitely something to be passionate about. And I

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want to see us win. I don't want us to
be a bunch of losers. I want us to be winners.
We're already losing seats in California because of this. Although
there might be an appeal to this, they think they
might be going to like one of the branches to
try to overturn it. They tried doing it in Texas. Actually,
some judge or whoever tried canceling it. They took it

(01:14:03):
to the Supreme Court and Alito Justice Alito through back down.
At least it's there for twenty twenty six. The Supreme
courtal flight about it, but it's there for twenty twenty six,
is the last thing that I just read about it.
So the Texas map, it looks like, is here to stay.
So we're gonna get at least maybe four or five
seats in Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Well, that's a great win. And ye know, I think
the greatest thing about the conservative movement is what me
and Sam just demonstrated conversation. If me and Sam were
both Liberals and we had a disagreement, that would have
been major. Sam or I would have shot each other

(01:14:44):
or you know, tried to bury the other. You know
how liberals are. But even if a liberal came in
unsure about something, it's very you're following, you're drinking the
juice of the Democrat Party. If you're a liberal, whatever
that party says goes. But that's what I love about
being a conservative. As me and Sam talked about something,

(01:15:05):
he informed me of some stuff that I did not
know about. He brought some stuff to my attention, and
I ended up agreeing with Sam, and as I said, uh,
with Gray's on the show before. Me and Sam might
not agree on everything, but we agree on a lot.
And at the end of the day, I feel like
me and Sam can shake our hands, and even if

(01:15:26):
we ended up disagreeing about something, it had probably been
during the rabbit hole we went down during the prayer.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
You know what, we can at least agree that that
this Ohio map sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
I think we can at least oh that one you
have me on the way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
People to look at it, especially if you ahosh it's
it's absolutely an atrocious map, and I'm so mad about it.
I wish there's maybe there's a way to overturn it
or something. I have no idea. I don't know anything
about how Ohio legislature works. But if there's a way
to overturn it, awesome. If not, I guess we're stuck
with it. But it's still it's it's it's a bad map.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
It's a disturb it disjustice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
It looks awful. God. Not only is it, you know,
a bad map because it doesn't give us what we need,
which is more seats. It's just an ugly map. It
just looks atrocious. I want to imagine like a representative
and you know, showing that, like this is the district
I represent and it looks like it's a It's like
how I said, one of the ones in Maryland looks

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like an ess. It just looks like scoliosis.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Have you seen the like some people when they run
for state Senate are are federal level stuff. They'll put
their district on the map instead of the whole state,
you know, showing who they specifically represent. I want to
see some of these districts in Ohio put their put
their district on their.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Whenever you have time, look up Maryland. Maryland's just as bad.
It's hell had before Maryland professional districts and you'll see
exactly what I mean. It's it's absolutely atrocious.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
All right, Before we go off the show, we have
I have to see what in the sam heel is this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I told you it's bad. I'm telling you what is this, Uh,
you see the one that I told you looks like
like an ass It looks like scoliosis.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Yeah, what what is this?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Who thought this was a good idea? The state? Whoever
won the state of Maryland doesn't make sense to me.
I don't like the way that's drawn. But one of
those district should be competitive because it's like a lot
of the country of Maryland. It's like the left side,
which is like Allegany and Garrett Counties where I I
know those areas, you know, I was only like an
hour and a half from them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Why does one district look like a sales ship?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
What is this? I feel like I'm looking at Peter Pan.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
What I'm telling you, it's it's it's an atrocious map.
It's I love so.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
I didn't see who posted this picture, but it's the
Washington Post. And I love how the Washington Post and
Sam you'd think the Washington Post is pretty liberal, right,
mm hmm. This is their tagline for the story how
Maryland Democrats pulled off their aggressive Jerry manderink.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
They've been doing it people, And that's a my gosh, mighty,
that's awful. That that that bothers me more than Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Uh hmm. It's aesthetically it's it's like an estatic at
least with West Virginia where I'm from top half, bottom half.
It looks fine, it looks clean.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
But like again, like you, you put these districts in
districts of similar beliefs, and that's just obviously not what
you're doing. It's you're trying to get more.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Oh my gosh, I told you it's bad. We'll we'll
have to do a ref about it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Oh gosh, that's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
That's and then we need graising on it too. We
need him to react to because I feel like he's
got a lot of things he would be able to
say about it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Oh I would love it gets very bad, it gets
What have you done to me? You've taken me down
this rabbital?

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
What have I done to you? What have I done
to me? This is what I do to myself?

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
But you know what it is, what it is, Oh gosh.
But I do want to thank Sam for coming on.
We've we've we ended up talking. Yeah, we've ended up
talking for another twenty minutes. And on that note, but
I hope you guys have enjoyed this, this longer episode

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of the show. I know I have. I've had a
great time with Sam. I hate that Graves hasn't been on.
Hopefully we can figure out something next week. With it
being Thanksgiving, it's gonna be iffy for all of us,
but I would love to come and talk about more
of everything and just kind of get back into the

(01:20:28):
swing of things again. It's always good to have Sam
on and I'm glad Sam's back. It's been way too
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