3 Best Cities to Live in Southeast Asia on $2000 (Bangkok, Manila, Da Nang)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Because all three of these places easy, super doable. You
can live like a king for two thousand bucks a month.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Still the first ones, it's not as bad as Thailand,
but you do have to leave every ninety days. So
in comparison to the Philippines, which I'm going to give
praise to.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
You right now, frozen Bangkok may be easy to find
food and eats, cheap shopping is nice.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
For the perfect person to go to the Philippines is
usually an older retired American.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Today we're talking about three of the best cities in
Southeast Asia to live in super low budget. We're talking
like you're living like a king for under two thousand dollars. Yesterday,
Will Travels. You probably know him. He's in the most
popular interview I've ever put up on the channel. Do
you know him? From his YouTube channel where he's a
live streamer and also doing travel consulting tips advice in

(00:49):
the Danaying, Vietnam area. And then last time I had him,
we talked a lot about his girlfriend from the Philippines
and you' all asked to see her. So here she is.
This is that I am Fluffy. Today we're going to
be talking about the three best cities in Southeast Asia
on a cheap budget on like one hundred two thousand dollars,
living like a king or really getting by and living
well for a thousand bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Let's start with Manilla. Okay, Philippines. I've never been there myself,
so we're just gonna maybe give me your the three
best things about Manila lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
She's going to try to pump it up because she's
trying to get me to go to the Philippines while
she goes because she's leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
But so basically, Manila is the capital of Philippines.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's just one concrete jungle. Start with the good stuff,
so that's you will.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Be welcome by everything that will loves like traffic, expensive things.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
I don't want to sugarcoat anything. We don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
But okay, so we're starting with the thought.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Traffic, traffic, Wi Fi congested, I not a transportation not good?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
What elock of stock?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Okay, So replying, we'll start with the con We'll go
negative first with YouTubers love that. Yeah, yeah, what's the cost? Like,
So if you're living in the Philippines now living a
similar lifestyle to where we are. What do you think
your monthly cost would be like food, drink, stuff, transportation, rent.
Let's just stick to those big three food and drink,
transportation and rent.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Maybe eight hundred to one thousand.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
More than that than that we're paying seven to fifty here,
which fifty bucks more. No, for one, it would probably
be more. I'm guessing definitely over a thousand.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
We were able to do.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We were able to do Sabu for about nine hundred bucks,
and Sabu is a decent amount cheaper than Manila. We
cooked seventy percent of the time in Sabu. So if
we live the same lifestyle, meeting, go out for dinner
every single night in Manila, I mean the food cost
would be as much as our rent is here. So
I'm saying probably twelve hundred bucks, at least twelve hundred bucks.

(03:01):
Our apartment would be smaller, our apartment wouldn't be as nice,
the internet would be slower. Transportation, we walk every everywhere
that we go to ninety nine percent of the time
here in Anthlong we walk there. It's much hotter and
it's much more spread out, so we couldn't really do that,
So I'd say twelve hundred bucks at least what you

(03:22):
guys would call a similar lifestyle, but it still would
be maybe less quality food, maybe less quality amenities, worrying
about a brown out or a blackout what they call it.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
What kind of meal can you get for five bucks?
If I'm like five bucks USD, I'm in what's the
downtown CBG where the foreigners live in.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Manilla BGC or maccatti BGC.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
McCatty, What am I getting for five dollars?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm hungry and BGC Maybe yeah, you can get something
like McDonald's. But we do have a cafeteria type of
food there where they it's like lunch meals. Then you
can pick one veggie, one one meat with rice would
be a we call it a budget meal.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Sometimes they serve it with iced t or soda, so
that's something that you can get.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
There.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Is this similar to like like obviously I'm Norman and Philbins.
Like in Singapore they have like the hawker stands or
Hong Kong they have like big cafeterias and it's all
like little stalls by local people and family.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Yes, we have that food court.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
It's about five bucks for like one person to have
lunch there.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
At BGC Yes, at bgcyes or Makati area. Usually that's
how that's the great for mall meals. Like when you
go to a food mall food court, that's what you
that's what you would basically get. But if you would
go outside and like real really have to find it,

(04:50):
like we do have the cafeteria style food places, maybe
you could get like one hundred to eighty eighty pesos
for that budd.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And that's like under four dollars.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's about two bucks.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
If you go to the real local small places, you
can get them fairly cheap.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
You'll never get it as cheap as here.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
That's just that's pretty close.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So you have to go to the local places. The
food's going to be on This is a big difference.
The food's not gonna be cold, but it's going to
be on those aluminum trays that might have been sitting
there for two hours. Whereas here, even when we go
get a bond me the lady's cooking my egg right there,
she's cooking the meat like it's all fresh there. If
you get there at two o'clock, that meat's probably been
there since eleven o'clock.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Sure, man, well it's like the joke here about the
bang Bao man. I mean sometimes bros literally have like
a wood fire oven on their motorcycle, or they're like
the ladies will have a steamer, so like on the beach,
they're pulling food fresh out of a steamer, still cooking.
What about transportation? How much if I'm going to Manila
for whatever a month, for six months, what's it cost

(05:55):
me to get around the city on whatever? I'm using
public transit jeepneys? Do I rent a bike? I buy
a bike? What do I do?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Okay, I'll answer that, then I'll give a turb But
for how we did it, I actually am I think
one of the rare Americans or Westerners.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
I don't mind the jeepney. I like the jeepney. I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm not going to say it's my favorite, but I
enjoyed it. It's cheap and you get on there. The
only time it is a little bit of a hassle
is like when there's packed, But if it's seventy to
eighty percent packed, it's not that bad. And it's like
fifteen pasos maybe, so fifteen pasos is thirty forty cents.
Now it doesn't directly drop you off at every stop,
but you can kind of say, hey, let me get

(06:34):
out here, and then as if you're over five foot five,
you got to kind of crawl out and worry about
getting out of the back. But actually, man, we took
that a lot in the Philippines, so that but if
you aren't happy with that, you go with GRAB.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
They don't have a in drive, they don't have.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
A bolt, they don't have a cheaper version of that,
so you're kind of stuck paying that, and their transportation
is definitely a lot more expensive GRAB wise compare to here.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
How much a day, how much a month?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like ballpark, I would say, so we didn't go out
to eat much when we were there, but we probably
still spent four dollars each ride three bucks four dollars
each ride, so they're three bucks coming back. So even
if you just took it one time a day, that's
six hundred bucks.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
One hundred bucks, well a couple hundred bucks six times thirty, right,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
We don't always go out every day, so I could
two people are wonder Yeah, for two people, it just
be grabbed, So it doesn't matter how many. Now, if
you did, if you did the jeepney you grab car,
grab car. Yeah, if you didn't want to take the jeepney,
the jepney would be a lot cheaper. The jeepney would
probably be twenty or thirty bucks a month.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, I will say though, and obviously I don't live
there anymore. I left you never lived there. That sounds
very comparable to hochim in city. We'll talk about Bangkok later,
but to hoach you in three or four bucks. Take
a car wherever you're going, I mean, God love you.
If you're taking a motorbike, the realities, most people aren't
sitting on the back of a motorbike unless they're staying
within one district. Yeah, you're not riding across the city

(07:58):
through the highways and tunnels on the back of the bike.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
But let me just me I had a quick point
to that, So yeah, I would definitely agree. It's very
very reasonable being the same cost of like a Bangkok
or like a Hanoi. But the problem is it's not
the same quality, not the same quality, not the same transportation,
not the same food.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
So you're overpaying in that aspect.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
But I know the Filipino viewers get mad at me
all the time for what I call the truth, but
you do get way more English and you can stay
there for three years without ever leaving. So the visa
situation is great and the English situation is great. So
you're kind of paying the premium for the English and
never having to leave for.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Three years as a tourist. So some people that works out.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Great value wise. It's hard to put a number on
that one to not just not the hassle and the
cost or a visa, not have to worry about visa
runs on to do that. I mean, I had a
guy named mic Abroad on the podcast recently on cost
Living Abroad. He's been doing visa runs from close to
Moly for six years something like that. Fuck man, I
don't want to swear on the channel, but.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
That's a I'm surprised he's not getting question.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well, he's been dropped. I think he's last He traveled
and been to other places and back. But he's been
I think he said twice now he's been rejected the
DTV visa, once for paperwork reasons, once for something else.
But I mean, I think people make it out sometimes
to be easier to stay in a posce than it is.
So if it's truly easy to stay in the Philippines,
you know, the English language thing, not just your daily life,

(09:21):
also socializing, meeting people. What's what's the real dollar value
on that, right, It's it's big.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
That's why I say for certain people, I have a
profile kind of built in my head of who's perfect
for each country. Because I'm actually going to do an
upcoming video almost of the same thing. My profile for
the perfect person to go to the Philippines is usually
an older retired American that doesn't want to do the
bus runs, that doesn't want to go down and get

(09:50):
food and have to use Google Translate, and he wants
to speak to a lot of people, have a good time,
and he goes, you know what, man, it's going to
cost me three hundred dollars more living in Deno. You
know what, screw it, man, I'm on retirement. I'm gonna
pay the three hundred bucks. I'd never have to leave.
That's who is perfect for the Philippines. Now, if you're
a budget, younger guy that doesn't have a problem using

(10:12):
Google Translate, or you like going and doing visa runs
and you work online, the Philippines is not for you.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
It's a very bad choice.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I agree with that, Stavin T. If you're saying
you're on that whatever the social Security number is, Like
you have a military pension, you're getting eighteen hundred and
two thousand dollars a month locked in for the rest
of your life. You don't want to hassle out and
to learn a new language at all. You know, you
want to be able to just do everything direct and
not rely on other people to get help. And you
don't want to be lonely. That's big, man, that's a

(10:41):
big right. There's a big part of life.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
And if you go look, that's basically the profile of
the retired portion of people that are in the Philippines.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, and what what would you say, Let's do a
double what would you say rent would be like two
bedroom condo in Cebu or a two bedroom condo in
I was Is it DGC or BGC?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Is going to be a lot more? We're shocked.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
One of our friends and fellow YouTuber JJ got a
crazy deal. At least he told us it was like
four hundred bucks, which is like insane for that area.
Usually it would probably be closer to six or seven
hundred bucks. We stayed in Sabu for two months right
near the mall and negotiated. It was on Airbnb, so
I dropped him a price and said, hey, if you'll

(11:23):
take this, we'll do it. And I think it was
four hundred and fifty bucks for two bedroom, two bathroom.
But maybe Fluffy can talk about the price different on
Sabu and Manila or Sabu BGC's rent. What would you
expect to pay in BGC?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
In BGC usually a two bed a one bedroom apartment
furnish is around thirty to thirty five thousand, no, not
even a parking like just the unit.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
And that's not electricity included.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Not electricity included in water and electricity is expensive in
the Philippines double so that that would be your rate
in in BGC.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
And then and in.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Sabu, I think how much did we rent for a
two bit five hundred bucks?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
But that concluded everything was.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
On air So what what's thirty to thirty five thousand paces?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
I think that's about five thousand per.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Sixty seven six to seven hundred dollars US. Yeah, six
seven hundred dollars US plus expensive utilities plus two.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Hundred dollars on top of what a cost in Sabu
which is like what.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And is like more twenty thousand range probably twenty five, but.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
We're comparing it to the like in Sebu, they have
an area which is like similar to BGC. They call
it it par and they also have like the other
island where it's more resort type. That's the price for that.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Regardless of the pros and conjure debating, though it does
sound to be like pretty clearly you can still live
really great. You live really well if your budget's two
thousand dollars. Yeah, you live in like a king and
no right and if those if your pros are those
things you're looking for somewhere, Ease of language, easy to
meet people, you know, you want to fully furnished, you know,
walk in, move in tomorrow kind of apartment, and in

(13:16):
downtown city, maybe lower quality, but also maybe more Western food.
I would think.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I think that's one thing as well, because like it's
easy to get Western.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Food in Manila.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
We have chains, international chains, We have shake Shack. I
think we all we also have the burger from Mister V's.
We have Pinks hot dogs, so like you.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Know, and you certainly you get some of that on Thailand,
but definitely none of that in Vietnam other than KFC
and the pizza places.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, you hit on a good point.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
If you have the money, then the Philippines is a
great project house, meaning everything's not there. But if you
have the money, you can go by starlink to fix
your Wi Fi problem, you can buy a backup generator,
you could buy a scooter. So yeah, you're gonna spend
a lot more, but then you can kind of customize
it and it just all depends on your budget. Now,

(14:09):
if you're on a thousand dollars budget, you can't get
the starlink, you can't get the backup generator, you can't
get these things. So if you have money, it's kind
of just like even in USA. Man, if you're in USA,
you can buy things to make the creature comforts feel
more comfortable.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Right, but it's way more affordable still than that in America. Right,
You're getting a closer version of your lifestyle in the
States for two thousand bucks, but like in the States,
it's going to be four thousand bucks, five thousand bucks.
So it is still a real fantastic option.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Talking about pros, Yeah, like most of the pros.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
That you would think in the Philippines. It's like more
of the people.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's not just that they speak English, but you would
also get a lot of smiles. People are very accommodating,
people are very helpful. Those are the things that you
would not really expect to other countries. Sometimes if they
don't understand you, in the Philippines, they may answer you yes, no, let.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Me help you.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
That would thinks that you would even though they don't
understand or like they could not really speak that much English,
they would always ask someone around and help you.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
That's one thing.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I have a Catholic background. I used to live in Mexico.
That's another thing. I mean, if you have any kind
of Christian Catholic connection heritage, for sure. That's another huge
pro of being in the Philippines to more extroverted, Right,
it's not just language. I think the culture in the Philippines.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Is literally more culture, more.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Social and extroverted. Vietnamese people anti people are incredibly friendly,
but especially in Vietnam, they're much more introverted. It's not
it's outgoing of a culture. So I've spent a ton
of time in Bangkok last fifteen years. You've spent a
ton time in Bangkok. I still think of Bangkok in
some sense is my dream city. You know, it's the
first big city game to an Asia. Yeah, it's changed

(16:02):
a hell of a lot in fifteen years, but you
can live there like a king for two thousand bucks
if you want in. I mean, you can also spend
one hundred thousand dollars a year in Bangkok.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Regarding the Bangkok part, let's get bank. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
So we lived in Bangkok I think probably for about
seven or eight months straight. We did the visa runs
there every ninety days. It was in twenty twenty three,
but we kept doing visa runs. But we so shockingly
I lived there for so long, but I've never stayed
in a condo or an apartment. We ended up getting
an amazing deal on a hotel, ninety square meter hotel

(16:33):
which is out insanely big, huge bedroom, two bathrooms, and
a living room. The only thing that was missing was
a kitchen. We got a great deal. We got along
with the general manager. He kept it for us, even
when stuff was being booked. He always had the room
for us. I don't think we would ever get that
deal again. But when we lived there, we went to
places like street food. We would go to Terminal twenty

(16:57):
one for food, we would go to If there would
be a day that we're working online or not doing much,
you might go to seven eleven.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
That's the great thing about there seven eleven.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You can go buy some cheap food and go back
to the hotel and do work. So the food situation
was just a tad more than here in Denong. Our
rent basically was about nine hundred bucks, and that's staying
at a hotel that was huge.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Now.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I know we could have paid a lot less to
stay like maybe further away, but we were in the
perfect neighborhood and we always had it and it just
made sense to us. And I spent under twelve hundred
bucks a month there.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
BT asked for you at like which station? Where were
you in the So Bangkok has fantastic public transit. We
don't We really don't even need to talk about getting
around there because for a few dollars a day, although
we'll be very very very busy at rush hour, Like
if you have to commute at a work hour, it's
a write off if you're going you know, if you're
working remote or if you're tired or whatever, you can
travel off hours. Incredible cheap, air conditioned, modern. It's phenomenal.

(17:57):
Literally the whole extended to do not just there.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
We stayed in BTS Nana, So we were right there,
you're right down, We were right there. We were here
to that hotel, probably probably a little further. We were
less than three minutes from the BTS station. It was
directly at the end of our block, and we would
go from there. We practically it was almost like Antoine.
We basically lived our whole life and we went to

(18:21):
the weekend market and we took a few BTS rides
to parks and stuff like that. But seventy five to
eighty percent was staying in that area, eating in that area. Basically,
the strip from BTS Nana to up to Terminal twenty
one was basically our neighborhood for the majority of the time.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
And so yeah, if you don't know, Nana is right.
It's got the famous nighttime bars, lady bars, go go
bar type spots. But it's also right on so Combete
is it near so Camba twenty or something. It's really
in the heart of downtown Bangkok. I mean you can
walk the Big Park from there too. Yeah, Dancock's not well.
I wouldn't call it walkable. It's safe to walk, but
it's the way.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
It's laid out, and it's hot.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
It's hot. It's not that walkable.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, it's not walkable. And the BTS is too cheap,
so yeah, it's not worth it.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
The BTS is too cheap. And of course you can
also do grab bikes affordably to the number for rent
nine hundred bucks. I think I've stayed in a bunch
of different places over theres in Bangkok. Where i'd want
to stay now and with the family, I think I'd
be really hard pressed to find an apartment under twelve
hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
That's crazy, well you think.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I mean, even if we do a two bedroom in
a sense, like my wife and I are in a
one bedroom, my kids are staying in like you know,
two single beds in the other bedroom, Yeah, one hundred
meters square apartment. I think it'd be twelve hundred bucks
to stay around sum meter. We probably stay around a
Kamai too, because it's not the kids don't go out
at night as much. But in Akamai if I was planning,
but you know, I'd take twelve hundred bucks just for

(19:43):
the rent.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Our our second favorite neighborhood is kind of almost as costly,
but we like it for a different reason. So we
live in well, we lived in the heart of sukom
bit there, and people are going to assume, like, oh,
this guy party is like I don't drink, I don't
go out something that you touched on earlier when I
got to Bangkok. Bangkok just gives you this nice vibe.
That's a huge reason why I love Bangkok. The bts,

(20:05):
the vibe, the food, just there's so much stuff about it.
It's the same equivalent that I tell people when I
went to Europe back in twenty nineteen, when I got
to Paris, I felt like I was in Europe, And
that's the same way that I feel when I go
to Bangkok. I feel like I'm in Asia. So that's
always going to be with me. It's like when I
get there, I'm like a kid, like I feel like
I'm in Asia. But speaking of that, our backup neighborhood

(20:29):
that we stayed in a few times is see Loan,
So we like that area too, but you miss out
on a lot of the stuff that we like. But
if there's ever a time that we're like, oh, everything's
sold out, or hey, let's go do something different.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
We go to Sea Loam.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's a different it's like the business kind of area
over there. And then they have the nice big park there,
the park where Fluffy gets scared of the big dragons
that walk around. I couldn't believe they were just walking
around and like we wanted to get in the swan
the little Swan lake and we can see him swim.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
About the videos that you guys should walk them.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
We have some Instagram.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
We have some Instagram ones, so they won't be the good,
good quality about to be some Instagram once that I'll
try to pull up.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
But that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
What's crazy is like when you go through that park,
like there's benches, but like sometimes you want to put
you want to lay on the grass, you can't.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
These things are these are like at least six for
long plus the tail Man.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
The crazy part about it is like what I still
don't understand. I didn't really know about him coming from USA.
But then when you look them up, they're like, oh,
they're very dangerous and they're wild, and then you're just like,
why the hell are they just wandering around next.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
To my feet over here?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Culture shock. It's crazy, but that's why it's That's why
it's the dream, That's why it's Southeast as Okay, Buffy
tell us, I know what Will's opinion about Vietnamese versus
Thai food and definitely versus Filipino food for him is
not in the same discussion. He said, fifty one percent
tie versus forty nine percent. Yeah, when we talked about before,

(22:00):
you tell me your opinion on Bangkok, what are you
eating Bangkok? What's your go to Thai foods?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
My go to Thay food.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
I would get pod Thai, of course, but I like
the suki better than the pod Thai. And then I
like fried rice stew and omelt oyster omelet.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's that's one of my wife's favorites. I like the
oyster omelet and larb like the beef. The like beef
chopped beef one.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
The watermelon shakes.

Speaker 5 (22:31):
Watermelon shakes.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, what do you get that? Terminal twenty one, we'll
talks about it.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Me. I would get the suki, Indian food, oh, the curry,
and then with a chicken with a piza and the
fried chicken.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
They have good fried chicken in Thailand and then.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
What do you think you're spending on like your ideal lunch,
like saying, you know, not like a fancy lunch, just
like you know, the average, like you go in austreet
food or you go to Terminal twenty one.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I would go because sometimes like I don't really eat
breakfast or lunch anymore so anymore because I would just
get the bad dye, which is just like fifty bods sixty.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
About two bucks. Yeah, so that's an interesting thing too,
because Thailand you can our bank COCKERIVI. You go all
the way up to like Michelin rated one hundred dollars
a person dinner is super fancy. But yeah, if you
eat street food, it's probably cheaper than the Philippines.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Oh yeah, I think so I would at least the same,
at least the same and better.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, I'm better. I'm bad. I agree with that. I
think sometimes comes down to personal preference, the Vietnam versus
Thailand food thing. But I think if I want, especially
when I'm traveling solo, you know, cause certain places I
don't want to go with my kids, sit outside on
the street or whatever. But like if I'm solo and
I'm just like sitting on the street corner, like right
in Soakcompte, there's incredible restaurants where you can eat for

(23:56):
fifty two bucks, like no problem, a big too, a
big sit down lunch. Let's say food costs, it's probably
Bangkok beats out Manila. Brent costs Manila's I think it's
cheaper than Bangkok. Now, Bangkok's housing costs have gone. Uh
A lot of people make videos about this on your
debt social was.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
The last time we were there a year and a
half ago.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Well I was there a year and a half.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Ago where no, but I went to Bangkok for uh work.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Now, I would say Manila, Manila is going to be
cheaper than Bangkok, but not BGC. BGC is at least
as much like we were blown away when we heard
the guy that I told you guys JJ oh.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, JJ, the lonely bul right, yeah yeah, check his
channel out. We'll link his channel. I'll pop him below.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Too, because yeah he got it. He got a crazy deal.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
But like you can't touch anything, like a small little
one bedroom in that area is like six hundred and
seven hundred bucks at least, and that's without bills. And
like the other thing that people don't understand is like
the electricity bill is crazy in the Philippines, Like it's
at least double sometimes triple of what it is you're
here in Denong. Like we hear people that live in
a small, little place and they'll say, oh, I spent

(25:05):
seven thousand pesos on electricity, which is over one hundred dollars. Wow,
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Okay, so let's do it one more guy.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Check.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Though Manila does not have as bad a pollution as
Bangkok says it, I don't think it does. Bangkok's notorious.
NOI is worse. NOI is the worst.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
I don't We don't really check that index. We don't
checked that index.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
But I mean, if just just casually looking, I don't
notice a big difference between any of the three cities
myself personally.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I mean, yeah, Bangkok is known it. Bangkok, Changhwai, Hanoi,
Unjamin City have some of the worst pollution in the
world outside of India, Flafi, what are your three pros
rapid fire, Bangkok, three negatives, Bangkok three pros and cons
Bangkok frozen.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Bangkok may be easy to find food and it's cheap.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Shopping is nice.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
That Bangkok shopping is nice. That's not the con.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Shopping is that's not a con.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Easy to come up with three pros and man.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, but yeah, easy to come up with the three
pros and parks.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I love the open parts. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, and like you could just you don't really have
to do sight seeing in Bangkok.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
You just walk and like yeah public.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I mean, I'm not alive. I think Rent's gone up
a lot, but Bangkok's got a lot of pros. The cons.
What don't you like about cook.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Maybe I can't really speak the language language very so yeah,
And then they would always say like Thai Fi, no Filipino,
you look Thi. But that's one thing because like it's
nice to travel and communicate with people.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
That's one con. Sometimes get you still get scamming.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I don't find that in denying, but I think there's
still scams in Hanoi and Hochi, man, and definitely in
Bangkok that like in the buildings.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Come in this well yeah, so yeah, you get over
priced and scam and Bangkok too. And I think traffic,
but they have solved the traffic with the BTS.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, it's better. They're definitely working on it that they
are the traffic pollution, Okay, so being overcharged foreigner tack scams,
traffic and pollution all the language and the language. Sure,
so there's real there's real pros and CONTs everywhere. What
are your cons?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Do you want me to start with the cons or
the pros? Either one?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I kind of know your prone do a rapid fire
pros pros.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
I would say the vibe pros.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
I would say the easiness to get around and the vibe,
Like those are the three things.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
So it's I mean, I can list off a lot,
but we'll just throw those out, so.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I don't do it as much anymore because I'm gonna
give what you should also say, it's like uncontested Bangkok
has the best night life out of anywhere. We're talking
about it, and it's not even close. There isn't really
if you want nightlies, yeah, there's nowhere in the region
in the same fucking planet as Bank Bangkok said, world class.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Cons like I can't keep the smile off my face
like in.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
A candy story. So we'll get onto the cons. The
cons are pretty simple for me. It's probably in my estimation,
I haven't been there in a year.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
And a half.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But I would say twenty to thirty percent more expensive
per month than Denong. That's one. The visa situation, that's
a big one for me. Sixty days now, which might
be going down to thirty days.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
And then even even if they stay at sixty you're
gonna get questioned. Like you said, you're gonna get questioned.
If you do two or three visa runs, you're gonna
get questioned. And then number three, So I said, no,
Now I'm drawing a blank. I was so ready for
this question. Uh so cost visa situation, and.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
There's another one, now, why can't I think of it?
I would probably agree. I would say the language, the language.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
I would say Bangkok has more English than Denong. But
I would say overall, probably the language or the heat.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
So I one of my times I have really mentioned
it's the same with ho Chi Min City. It's not
the same in denying. I don't know what the Philippines.
The airport situation. Bangkok has a big, beautiful, incredible new airport,
and it also has an old budget airport. And if
you're a Southeast Asia traveler like we are and actually
located here, you're probably flying in through don Wayang. It sucks.

(29:21):
It's the only good thing about it is the cheap
seven to eleven. It's got an old school taxi line
with like a stub system, like it's nineteen seventy five
Mexico City. You basically have to take a taxi in
even if you're just one person. They're going to immediately
ask you to pay for the toll road, which you
also basically have to do because otherwise it takes forever.
The BTS doesn't really go there. That is a downside,

(29:42):
and it's definitely downside about Ho Chimin City too, but
not about Denyang, which you know, spoiler, that's gonna be
our third city we talked about. So I'll put up
a budget graphic for Manila that I think it'll be around,
would be around fifteen to eighteen hundred or maybe less
twelve to fifteen hundred, twelve twelve to fifty hundre Bangkok
I think realistically for the sort of you know, living well,

(30:04):
classic life now, you're definitely pushing up fifteen to eighteen hundred.
And then our last city we're gonna talk about Denying,
where all three of us have settled for now. No
doubt much cheaper than anywhere else. Before we even jump
into why, there's no doubt that it is cheaper to
live here. Right now, people prices are going up. It's
getting overcharged, Buddy lee Vantung across the street, across the river.

(30:25):
The prices in Hicho haven't changed one bit. You actually
want to live here and not just stand the walking
tourist district for a week. Prices have not gone up
and they're not gonna go up. Based on a couple
of Americans like us, ninety five percent of the tourists
and Vietnam are still from Asia.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So there's a lot of our viewers that think that
we control that because I get I get those messages
every day. Stop talking about it. Don't tell them about
my spot. And you'll read the guy and he's from Germany.
He's like, don't tell him about my spot, don't don't,
don't ruin my ballgame here.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I'll just get let's go the opsate make it off.
Here's a big con of the nine. Denang's in an
absolute construction boom. There's like three hundred cranes up in
the city and hundreds of hotels being built, including directly
across the street from us right now, And I promise
you it has nothing to do with a couple of
small YouTubers like me and Will. There's a huge plan

(31:19):
to build a massive tourists and industry here and it's
it's happening, and it's under construction right now. So it's loud.
It's loud, it's noisy. There's construction. A guy who I
did a consult with who came over here just last week,
I put him in a place where I put other
people before, a beautiful little service department. Well literally, when
he was there, they tore down the place next door.
You had to move rooms and stuff. And it's a

(31:40):
place that I'm not going to name the place. It's
a fantastic place where other people have sayd before. But
you can't predict that, you can't control. He checked in
and then you know, seven am the next morning, Jackhammer's out.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And for the guys that get mad, stop telling about
Denow and you're ruined it. You're blowing my spot. Well,
we'll promote Natrain, so all you guys go down to Natring.
You just came there, so do you guys want that?
We'll send them down to not Trains. Since you guys
think I have so much power, We're gonna tell everyone
go down to Natrain.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Small to me, I wish I had that much YouTubers,
yeah I didn't do. I'm always like, yeah, I wish
bro like I can.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think what it is is those guys see us
as the face of everybody. So whenever they watch the video,
they're like, I'm gonna tell this guy because it's been
built up.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
On my mind for a long time.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
But they really think like they think, Hey, if no
one ever talked about Bangkok, Bangkok would be undiscovered and
no one would know about it.

Speaker 4 (32:29):
It's like, if I don't talk about it, someone else
is not.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Only is not even if I don't talk about it,
even if it wasn't on social media, that someone would
discover it.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Season five of White Lotus Deny Okay, let's just just
for fun, just to make fun of them in the
Nang right now today to Marriott Hotels, two Wing Hotels,
an Intercontinental Hotel, a Sheridan Hotel. What am I missing?
The Blue the Blue one Ocean Villas. There's about twelve massive,

(32:57):
like thousand room international home chain hotel chains in the city,
all red deep. Sorry guys, cat's out of the back. Yeah,
we'll start. We started negative with the Nang, just because
I'm taking the piss out of people. Yeah, but let's
go into the pros. Let's start with Fluffy. What are
your three pros of living in the Nang, Vietnam?

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Living near the beach is a good one. I feel
more upgraded apartment.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
What else? People are nice.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
They would smile, like even if they don't understand you
that much, like if you get to know them, they
would smile at you, like if you're someone familiar, they
smile at You'll come a day thing here. I like
it people area, and like upgraded, more upgraded, money cheap.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, the cost of living I think it doesn't go
without saying, but it's a fact that it's more affordable here.
You two live in a five hundred and fifty US
dollars apartment, spitting distance from what might be one of
the most beautiful beaches in all of Asia's twenty kilometer
beach goes all the way to Away and it's the
same beach all the way to the Lady Buddha on
the other end. What would you say? What's your food

(34:06):
budget here? I know we've been over this before.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
But well, just to say we did negotiate, and that
five point fifty is down to four eighty.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Now, so I did negotiate. That was on the new video.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Prices are going up, not down.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, so apparently apparently you guys give me bad time,
but apparently I'm one of the only people that negotiate
and get my price down. Our landlord helped us out
in that situation. We're at four eighty and that includes
all of our bills too, so that's everything included.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I think I've been doing the math wrong on television
on YouTube for a while. We paid thirteen million, which
is like just I always say I paid six hundred.
I actually paid just over five hundred dollars for a
three story, three bedroom, two bath house.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Because we're at twelve point five now.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
And I'm a kilometer and a half from the beach.
I don't live on the water like you guys, but
just Sam, it's in the it's ocean side, it's I'm
a touristy part of town. I'm not in the city side.
Local spot living like a local.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Food is very very cheap here. We basically have it
where we go out. I mostly don't eat breakfast like
even today we got up somewhat early, which was like
ten o'clock.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
So breakfast it just kind of goes by lunch very cheap.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
It's either I guess whatever rice and egg and some
toast is, or we'll go grab a bond me, so
that first meal of the day is extremely cheap. Under
a dollar, I would say. Then every day we will
go out to dinner.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Every single day.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
We usually go to a local place five times out
of seven nights, and last night we went to the
Thai restaurant, so we went there. Unfortunately they dropped their
voucher down to only twenty.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Percent now instead of fifty.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Or we'll go to like a bikini bottoms once or
twice twice a week, we'll go to Western food, and
our total monthly food budget here is as low as
two hundred bucks, sometimes as high as two hundred and
twenty two hundred and twenty five dollars for both of
us total, I think too.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Like as far as like international food being expensive here
relative to the local food, it's very expensive here, so
it's pricing the way that most local people couldn't afford
or wouldn't buy it, you know. As far as geo
arbitrage if you're coming here with US dollars, which most
of the viewers are to buy food. I ordered Indian
food two nights ago for my family and same thing.
We only did that maybe once a week, but we
ordered Indian food on grab, three different kind of breads, burani,

(36:13):
two curries, YadA YadA. And it actually was free because
my wife paid for it. But my wife was like
it was under five hundred K and she was all
fired up. I mean it was under twenty US dollars
for a big meal that fed three adults, two kids
and leftovers, and like that's pretty regular. Like when I
go for a meal, Like if we go for a
fancy dinner here and it's a million doll which is

(36:34):
forty dollars US, I'm like pretty surprised. Yeah, no, I'm
not like angry or anything, but that's just surprising, Like
it's and that's for a family of four, Like it's rare.
It's very rare that we would go out to dinner
and it would cost us forty dollars, right, like right, yeah,
Like Sean.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
We go to an amazing Japanese buffet that some of
our viewers have taken us to the food is great,
and it's like thirteen dollars for a two hour all
you can eat buffet that includes meat.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
So I mean, the prices are actually very affordable.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
And the only reason this is kind of why people,
even myself kind of unfairly calls Western food expensive is
just because the local food is so cheap. Like if
you got rid of the local food and you just
had to eat Western food, you'd be like, that's okay,
it's cheaper than Manila. It's this, But when you see
it compared to it, you're like, damn, I can get
this local dish. I can get three of these for

(37:23):
this one price of this. So that's the only thing
that kind of unfairly makes it seem that it's somewhat expensive.
But for me and her to go get what I
consider the best burger bikini bottoms, we get a double
burger each, we share a huge thing of fries, and
it's under eight bucks total for both of us, Like
seven bucks.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Sure, And if you're man especially if you're not drinking alcohol,
or if you are drinking alcohol, if you're drinking local beer,
if you drink local beer, it's cheap. I literally can't
remember it was I went somewhere in Antone the other
day to meet a guy for a meeting, and we're
about to get a coffee. The coffees were like a
dollar ninety five and the draft beer Sam Mill was
one dollar. And I was like, we just have a

(38:02):
year at our meeting, man, I mean, it's now and
we're a block from the beach. Should we just have
a beer while we chat over the laptops And we're
both like, yeah, why not? I mean it's a buck, yeah,
just for a handle, not like a huge plant, but
it was a buck for an ice cold handle of
beer in the absolute heart of the tourists downtown district.
It all over priced, and Nang's getting more expensive, yep.
I mean the weather, the climate, the cleanliness here. For me,

(38:24):
it can't the beauty. It's not comparable to anywhere else
we talked about. I know there's stunning beaches in the Philippines,
but I think they're probably harder to get to, whereas
this has an international airport. Fifteen are The international airport
is a twelve minute taxi ride from my house. It's
a big reason why my wife and I wanted to
live here. Best airport in Vietnam and it's not even
close to way better than the Nooi and the South.

(38:45):
But don't fly via jet unless you have an infinite
time budget. Your flight will be delayed.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
We've been lucky. We flew for via Jet many times
over the past years. We've never had a problem, but
we hear lots of people have problems, so I don't know.
Maybe our luck's running out on that, but we've been
lucky with Vajet so far. So via Jet maybe you
can sponsor me. If you guys mess up, I will
quickly air that grievance. Arisia move talk Oh I love
Aria Asia, so maybe as sponsor.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Me pros well. They're also beautiful joyan beautiful beaches, tourist
stuff to do. There's not like going out exciting stuff
like Bangkok, but there's like outdoor stuff, drive up to
hive On.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Pass, more natural stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, walking around the rice fields, cruising down the Coconut River.
It's not an exciting night life place though that's definitely
a con. It's not reason like duff to do to
go out at night. And then even like the bar
strip here in Antungue is two hundred meters long and
a half dozen bars. If you're the kind of person
that wants to be in a bar every night, you
better go to Bangkok.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, if you're looking for a night life, if you're
looking for a date or dates, then yeah, it's gonna
be much tougher in Denong for many many reasons. That's
what keeps Denong a little cheap because a lot of
the guys that are from Bangkok or Ho Chi Minh,
they don't come here. They say, Donong is too bored.
It's too boring. Man, I can't do it. So those
guys are helping us out.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
So I have friends up from Ho Chivan City right now.
They wanted to avoid the big parade. By the way,
I love Vietnam. Congratulations fiftieth anniversary of reunification to all
the Viets out there. It's a beautiful thing. But a
bunch of new friends came out from the city here
for the weekend. Here's reality. Those guys aren't ever going
to move here because they're city guys. They have worked

(40:23):
in the city, they have lives in the city. They're
going out all the time. They're fast paced, they're doing stuff.
They you know, they're into being stylish and going to shows,
and that is not that's not here here, It's not
what this place is ever going to be.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
This is like kind of the Santa Cruz, California of
Vietnam or Agent. That's that's the way that I kind
of look at it. I'm not sure if you've ever
been there, but the.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Santa Cruz Beach boardwalk much more laid back. You wear
shorts here.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
When we went to nachraing our buddy another YouTuber, Marcus,
he tells us, when I got there, man, I was
filling out a place because people dress up there, and
it's like, Denong is a perfect I'm from California, from
the Bay Area, so we wear shorts and shirt anywhere.
Like you'll see what was the guy's name, Leonardo DiCaprio.
He'll get out of his generic little prius with shorts

(41:05):
and a T shirt.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Like that's just California lifestyle. That is what Denong is.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
You don't come out here with a watch and a
big chain and trying to impress Denong. I love the
vibe of Denong. It's it's for a California guy.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Okay. Let's do though, to make sure people know where
are actually being honest. Each of you fluppy first, give
me the three downsides, the three negatives of living in Denang.
Then will we'll give his three them will wrap it
all up? You tell you where we think the best
pots are for who?

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Wow, I don't know any cons? So you go first?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Why maybe you're going away today? Right? Why are you
going home? You must be something you miss?

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Well.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
I miss the Filipino food for sure, But aside from that,
you like doing the smelly bus rides.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Se Yeah, what's your visa situation?

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Like she's every ninety days, yeah, ninety davisa.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
So that's going to be a downside.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
What does Maguige language?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
It's okay, I'm learning Vietna con Yeah, okay, I don't
really have any con. Maybe I would say night life.
We also have a night life in Manila. It's it's
a fun night life. If you're like tired of Bangkok,
maybe you could go to Manila because we have a
good night life there. Maybe loud and expensive, but I'm

(42:20):
sure you'd have fun in Manila night life. There's it's
a quiet night life here.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
There's like a couple of backpacker hostels in Joyan, which
is not denying. It's twenty kilometers from here. And I
mean they probably have parties, but that's like a revolving
door thing. It's not a social life, yeah denying. It
is a quiet night life here, no doubt. People go
to bed early. What about what are some of the
other cons?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
So she tried to steal some of mine the first ones.
It's not as bad as Thailand, but you do have
to leave every ninety days. So in comparison to the Philippines,
which I'm gonna give praise to right now, if you
guys stuck around this long, if all the Filipino viewers
usually turned me off, So it's nowhere near as good
as the Philippines visa, but every ninety days, I got
to get on a bus or a plane. I always

(43:05):
do the bus. It's cheapest, quickest option. So that's a
con language. So just little things sometimes like when I
just ask for chili, I like eating the spicy chilis
here last night, we have to Google and show them
a picture of it, so it's not as easy. And
the third con I would probably say this is kind
of a throughout Asia con. Stuff is not open when

(43:28):
it says it's open on Google or some stuff will
go get.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Where's our bond melet. Why is it closed today? What
the hell go to the store? Why is it closed?
What happened?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Like just the sense of hey, like it's just closed,
like deal with it? Like yeah, that that would probably
be number three. I have little other small ones, but
those are probably the biggest ones that stand out.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Fluffy's trying to answer on something.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
No, but I think one of the cons that they
really hate this, like please drive safely?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Oh god, yeah, absolutely here.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, because like even if I'm walking, I really have
to to watch where I'm walking because like sometimes most
of the time a motorbike would back up on me.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Like I was sitting at a cafe the other day
and a motorbike literally drove straight through the cafe, knocked
over all the tables, smashed into a planner. Yeah get this,
so man, I hope he finds my channel. I stood
up and I literally all myself was what up right?
Yelling at the lady who did it. This Russian guy
looks straight at me and he goes, this isn't your country, man,

(44:30):
shouldn't be disrespectful. And I was like, I got kids,
my child stroller had been there, this lady would have
just murdered my child tell me to calm down. Someone's
driving through a sidewalk cafe on a motorcycle traffic. You're insane,
and they it's.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Crazy because like I don't know how they drive. I
drive in Manila, and like we we know how to
stop and intersection, we know pedestrian, but please please be
respectful for with the people walking, we'll walking what do
you call it against the traffic so people would.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
See him walking.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah. When I go for runs here, I run with
traffic coming towards me because I don't trust anyone coming
from behind me.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
She doesn't understand that, And I say, man, I would
rather be able to see and get out of the
way of someone coming at me than just walking down
the street and all of a sudden wake up in
the hospital because some plowed me down from the back.
She's liked, no, don't do that, and I'm like, no,
I'm gonna watch because I trust myself to get out
of the way of a car that's driving or a
guy that's texting. Then to be having my back towards
someone and get plowed.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
A good segue. One hundred percent. It might be a
little bit more expensive, but healthcare and medical is still
better in Bangkok and in Thailand than in Vietnam. It's
improved greatly in Vietnam, and it's extremely affordable. There are
medical and dental options in Denaying, but they're not really
that cheap. If you want a quality service, Like I

(45:57):
had a full annual check up here, it costs me
two hundred dollar dollars. That's at least as expensive in Bangkok,
probably even more expensive than in Bangkok, because if you
want that high end, real quality service, So it's such
an eleap sliver of Vietnamese people that can afford it.
The dentists, on the other hand, pretty accessible. When I
go get my teeth done, it costs eight bucks and
it's awesome, even fillings timebox bridge work. My wife had

(46:20):
forty dollars, but not probably they What about the Philippines,
what's the medical dental situation there? You have great teeth
by the.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Way, thanks, But like I still go to my old dentist,
which is not in Manila area. It's in my province
because it's cheaper there, but in Manila. I heard because
a few months no last year, I was in Manila
because I want my annual dental and my cousin said,

(46:47):
it's about could be around third twenty to forty dollars
for cleaning. It depends or like if for filling or something,
but it usually costs around that so twenty to forty.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
What do you think about quality wise of healthcare there?

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Well, we have different kinds of healthcare there. We do
have the public hospital. Some are great, Like you would
see most of the good doctors in the public hospital.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
The doctor. My doctor in denying is literally an English
speaking Filipino. Really he's great if you're watching that. But yes,
my doctor, so there's no doubt, right.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, But like facilities, you would have to go to
an expensive tertiary they call it tertiary high end hospital
to get all those But if you can do the
mid class or the public hospital just to get your
animal check up, you can do that, but you would
deal to waiting or like you have to go early

(47:46):
because like you wouldn't finished the whole day, or like
rooms would not be that great for a public one,
but for a big hospital it costs a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Maybe, and I would say you can't. I mean I
do occasionally with my family Linco. My wife speaks to
me at and my kids understand yet, but you're not
going You're not going to a public hospital in Vietnam.
You should not. The language vary is too great. It's
not a good idea. It's a very good chance they
won't take your international insurance anyways. By the way, I'm
a safety Wing affiliate now, so if you want Nomad insurance,

(48:17):
check that link out below. They have a cool cost
calculator so you can figure out how much you have
to pay. It's pretty great for anyone under seventy. Let's
do a wrap up with like a checklist, because I'm
probably gonna cut all this familiar craft thereas Manila, Bangkok,
It's Nang. Which one has the best housing?

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Danang then Bangkok Manila?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Okay, yeah, i'd probably I guess it depends on what
you consider best. So some people like having a pool
in a spa in their complex. That's much more rare
here in Denong, but it's going to be much more
costly For me. I don't care about the pool or
the spa. So that's kind of a relevant because in
Bangkok you'll get a pool, a spa, all the amenities,

(48:56):
but a smaller place for more expensive in Bangkok for me,
I'd rather take the bigger, less amenities place, So I
would say the same way Denong Bangkok, Manila. But I
know a lot of people that would probably put Bangkok
up there in front of Denong because of the amenities
and the sky view and we have an infinity pool,
which all that stuff doesn't matter. So in my my case,

(49:17):
Denong Bangkok, Manila, I.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Would say yeah, for me, Bangkok has the better housing,
but again qualified Danang has the best value housing. Food.
Are you sticking with your fifty one tie forty nine
Vietnam zero percent?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
No, no, no no, So that is probably gonna be
my order though I'm gonna go, but I am gonna go.
I'm gonna go, Yeah, Thailand, and people are gonna say, oh,
I like this. I'm The reason why I say Thailand
is because of the overall all foods. You go from
the seven to eleven to the next level of street food,

(49:50):
to the next level of local restaurants, to the next
level of mall food, to the next level of high
end food.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Bangkok has Vietnam beatn all those categories.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Like if you come to the street, I love bondbies,
but they don't have fried rice out here on the street.
They don't have many different things. So I'm gonna go Thailand.
I'm gonna go Bangkok, and I'm gonna say this about
the Philippines. So some people are gonna take this as
a negative, so some I're gonna take that out positive.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
It's a very hit or miss for me.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
There's some stuff that I love in the Philippines and
then a lot of the stuff I hate, so there's
not much middle ground. There's some stuff that I love,
love the spring rolls, I love the beef that they
eat for breakfast. I'm more of a rice guy than
a noodle guy, so those things I really really like.
But then there's some terrible stuff, like the freaking eggs
that they eat, the duck eggs, the innerds, like all

(50:39):
the other stuff. So a good viewer kind of posted
it and said everything's either fried or soaked in a
bray brown gray sauce in the Philippines. So that's kind
of the thing. So Thailand, Vietnam, the Philippines.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Okay, so I'm gonna go. I've had gray Filipino food
back home in Toronto. It was tasty, including from my
high school girlfriend's mother who used to make like steam
rice Longanisa good snacks, thanks Mom, But it's still number three.
Thailand is number two. I love Thai food, one of
the best food places in the world, but they don't

(51:13):
have the variety for me. It's too much, it's too heavy.
It's just heavy, spice heavy. And Vietnam is the best
food in the world. It's my favorite. I love you.
That's a kiss from my wife. Wonderful cook ooh and
my mother in law. God, my mother in luck and
cook so well. But you're not going to get the
home cooking. But Vietnam, I'm just like fu bang Mei, Bunean,

(51:36):
Bumba bang quo, like I love it. I love all
of the bang quote that I mean, the rolls, the
dishes are steam rice, boncha Hanoi. All that stuff is
amazing to me. So Vietnam wins hands down.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But I'm going to take some points away. We are
going to take some points away for the desserts. The
desserts are big. Oh no, I okay, I love that.
What I'm talking about is the baked desserts.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Here's here's what I make.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
These people don't have ovens.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
No, But like if you go to the little local
bakeries and you get like a little cake or something.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
I don't know what that is. That's weird.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
It tastes like there's an single drop of sugar in there.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
But then you'll go and get a watermelon shake and
they'll dump a pound of sugar into that, and I'm like,
don't put don't put the sugar in the drinks, in
the fruit, put it.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Put it in the baked goods.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Bonus points. Vietnam has the best coffee in the world too.
So how about what you're dream You can live if
money is no option? Say you have that two there's
all three of these places, easy, super dooable. You can
live like a king for two thousand bucks a month.
Still no problem. So money is no problem. We have
two thousands. We each have two thousand dollars a person

(52:40):
six thousand dollars within the three of us. Which city
do you live in out of those three? Yeah, Manila, Bangcock,
Danang two thousand dollars hitting your bank acount. Not will
individually everything.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Maybe I would steal go for Bangkok is bankcock.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
I promised that I'll go there every year. I did it.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Will stayed there for a while twenty to twenty three,
twenty four. I went there for ten days, but I
haven't done it for twenty five, So I want to
go to Bangkok.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
All right, Well, you gotta choose two thousand dollars. Money
is no option. I know all you're concerned with is
the budgets on your channel, but this time, no budget.
Two thousand dollars. You hit Social Security from the US
at sixty five Bangcock, Manila, Danang. Where do you bet?

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Boy? That's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
With a larger budget brings up Bangkok a lot higher
in my book, but I don't know if it wins.
Bangkok doesn't have the beach, Bangkok doesn't have the laid
back vibe, and technically I don't know if I would
Still I guess I could technically get the retirement visa.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Depending on how mch option.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
If money was no option, then that would kind of
make a difference. But I still think it's a coin
flip for me. I think probably depends on which day
you ask me. But if I was just forced to
put it right now, I think I think denong edges
it out fifty one forty nine. But maybe if you
ask me tomorrow, maybe maybe Bangkok wins fifty one, so
very very very close, like it could go either way.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
It's evenly matched up.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
But I think if I'm held to pick one, I
think it's Denong. It could easily swip switch to Bangkok
depending on the situation.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
But Denong, I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Robert match one vote Bangkok, one vote.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
To then here's the big one.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
I've never been to Manila, so I can't vote for Manila,
and that means, without a doubt, come on, I love it.
I love it here, this is I'm here because I
choose to be here. I could live other places if
I really wanted to. I make it work. I figured
it a way. I think right now at this point
in my life, not twenty five year old Evan, a
twenty five year old Evan is in Bangkok without linking
because of the night life, but forty year old Evan

(54:50):
with the family, with a wife with kids, Tonay Man,
I love this place. It's beautiful, it's clean, it's safe,
and though there are some cons like the traffic and
the noise and the construction, it's easily weighed out by
the pros like the affordability, the safety, the cleanliness, the
great airport, and the wonderful people in food.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I was kind of hoping that you were gonna pick
Bangkok because now we're gonna have all those guys saying
these guys are.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Just some the shills to get you to come to Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
And it's like no, like, I literally love all these cities,
but people are gonna say, hey, they're pushing Denong.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
They're pushing Denong.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Speak of which, if you want to come to Danang,
Vietnam and you're planning a trip, click the link below
to book an infro call with me.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
He's my competition.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Now everyone's this guy's my competition.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
The most recent videos here, I'll link Will's channel right here,
and my podcast The Cost of Living Abroad right here.
Thanks so much for coming on YouTube. It was fun.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
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