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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I saw him sitting in the range.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, we're the Castles.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Paul, I'm Bob, and I'm Susan Cowcill.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
And welcome, Welcome, one and all to the Calcil Podcast,
where we have fun, fun, fun, even when we're being
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
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Right right right, Well, if that's true for you, then
you have a ride at the right place at the
right time.
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So we want you to sit.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Back, bringing back and escape.
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With us and to our world of harmony, laughter and
tom foolery.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Here's today's episode of the Castle.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So yeah, right now, it's just being Paul. Susan's gonna
pop in up from New Orleans, Paul by Way, Portland, Oregon.
Now not mad, Yes, he'll explain that a minute. And
Bomb's still getting ready. Tomorrow we're all taking flight to
the Happy together, two people. We are leaving for summer camp,
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the Foreign Legion, whatever you want to call this thing. Yeah,
and Paul has to start a day ahead of all
of us.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
So yeah, because I wasn't able to get a flight
out of Redmond that could get me to Melbourne. They
would get me there on the twenty ninth. So when
that happens, because it's a real small airport in Redmond,
I have to do Portland and from and then even
in Portland because me and Bob and Brendan we go
west coast, always go to the east coast, so we
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are constantly out like at five.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
In the morning or six in the morning, and I
just can't do that.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'm like about three hours away from the airport from
Portland where the farm is, and so I would have
to leave there at like one in the morning to
get here by four to get going. And so I
just come here, get a hotel, and it's really kind
of a nice way to do it. I ease on
into everything, you know, because I'm a nervous wreck at
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home when I'm trying to get ready for all of this,
you know, and I'm thinking, God, this just feels horrible.
And once so I have to take a bush otherwise
lu Lamb would have to drive me. So I take
a bush from from Central Oregon over here the PDX,
and so, you know, and so I get on that
and I get to come here and I can wait.
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I go always go in the airport and I weigh
my luggage, and then I go to the hotel. Everybody
knows me, and then I just wait for this. And
now I'll be out of here at three in the morning,
and I come here to the Sheraton because they have
a twenty four hour shuttle. So I just go down
there and the guys there and you know, take me
to the airport.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
How long is the bus ride from your house and
address door to door over.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That mountain three and a half hours.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh, oh, okay, that's two movies. It is like a
city bus or does it have some movie screens in
your seater?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
In fact, the bus today was I call it the
rickety bus because it's the smaller bus and man, every
bump you're feeling it like the shocks are terrible.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And then they but.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They have a really bitching bus that you know. I
think it depends on how many people have reserved the drive.
You know, if they've got so many people coming from
central Oregon, then they've got to put the big bus in.
Because today, you know, I had my own row, so
it was great. It was so not a lot of
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people were moving today from Central Oregon to Portland, which
I thought they would because of the holiday being yesterday Monday.
I thought people but literally thinks people go home on
Monday or they go back to where they're coming from
on Monday.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah. I mean it's a three day holiday. So for
whatever you want to stretch it out, well, that's cool. Yeah.
So yeah, So for any listeners who don't know what
we're talking about, Happy Together Tour is a tour that
the councils around with Jane, the Americans, Little Anthony, Gary Pucket,
the Vogues, the Turtles and whoever I'm missing. I apologize
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it might be another one.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It just does.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Hey good, I'm glad it was us. You know that.
I can get over that. But anyway, fifty seven cities, Okay,
really for the councils, fifty six cities because we get
an extra night off because of the four wins Casino
in Michigan who got mad at us about Indian Lake
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and have I think four years in a row. This
is our fourth ban in a year in a row.
Because now it's costing a lot of money. What they've
called says, doing this to us for something we did.
You know in nineteen sixty eight. But we're not going
to get into that. But that's what's going on. Yeah,
so we get an extra night off and it's kind
of fun. We'll admit it. When it does come. I
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think it's way late in August this.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Time this year. It's way late, like the twenty fourth
of August.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Inside that casino. I brought it up before. There's a
guitar on the wall with our signatures on it, which
to me a hypocritical That's okay, but it makes me
want to write a letter and say, hey, like if
it was let's see who would be Alice Cooper, it'd
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be like, hey, mforts, get that F and guitar off
that F and waff. You don't think my war hoops
work in that building. You take that thing down, or
I'll come in and take it down myself. But we're
not that people. No, that's funny.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I do want to say.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
One thing is it's like, you know, so, okay, we
don't get to do the show, and you know, and
we're outside and you know, we're on our bus. You know,
we don't really we kind of try to stay away
from the whole action, but you know, but it's dinner time,
and so we go on into dinner and I'm amazed
at how many people are expecting us to be on
that show, you.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Know, accidentally and not intentional, because you know, if they
had their way, they because they banned our family also
from the casinos. So we're breaking a rule going in
there and having said, mil but you got to eat
right well, lo and behold, we get in line, man
in front and behind and further behind our people going
to the show, and they're high five and us, and
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we did one person. We felt so bad for him
and his two daughters or something that we felt very
compelled to let him know the truth. And it was hard,
and I don't think we ever told anyone again after that,
but we told we're not on the show, and you know,
you read the letters. Some people come for us and
they don't say anything.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know that is the weirdest thing about
it all.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
But you know, hopefully now it is like you said,
this will be the fourth year in a row.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Hopefully the people know by now that we've been you know,
canceled out of that joint.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And so yeah, they be alert now. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
It's a great show.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I mean, look at people are going to get you know,
between six, six, twelve eight, between twenty four and thirty
hit songs.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean, this is unusual for a whole show to have.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Huh yeah, I agree with you. It's a great show
without us.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, well, and every song everybody knows. It's the strangest
thing about this whole thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And listen, So our job we're the crazy kind of
hyper opening act. Okay, we're not there to do much
but get excited, get you excited, and bounce around like
a bunch of anime in the accent, say basically nothing
you know, and then but then the vote. But with
our great harmonies, yes, I admit that. But then the
vogues come on. Now you still have the great harmonies,
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but now you get a little comedy, a little more
interaction with the audience on more personal level. And so
that's how that show will start that night.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And that's okay, yes, yeah, Are the vogues on second?
Are we thinking that's the way it's going to roll?
Huh oh yeah, okay, and then Gary ending you think
in the first half, and then Jay opening up the
second half.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I think Jay is going to be before the turtles.
Oh no, that's still Anthony. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, I think it's I think the second half
is Jay, little Anthony and the Turtles, I'll bet you anything.
And Castle's Vogue scary in the first half.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, an, that'll be it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That would be it for sure, and then it would
be like I would. I don't know what else I'll do,
but because Jay's pretty strong, you know, yes, yes, all good, yea,
all of it?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, everybody.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
You people haven't seen it, come to the show and
watch What's Day? And Jay candidly says, I'm J number three,
So this is J number three, you guys. His cormia
has to be perfect, Okay, the original Jay could have
like I have a sore throat tonight. Jay number three
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doesn't get an off night. He's got to nail it
every night and he does. So you just got to
come out and watch it and hear it. Yeah, it's true, you.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Know, because I think I think the Happy Together Tour,
you know, we're all a bunch of old acts, okay,
and we're just so happy to be where we're at, Okay,
that I just think everybody is just desperate to bring
their best game to do the You know, because we
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because we can't. We can't screw up because then they're
going to just say, oh, they're so they should just
not keep going, you know. And so we can't act old.
We got to, you know, and we have to be
at our very best, and every band knows that. And
I think that's why the whole show is so exciting
for people, because everybody's out there just doing their best man,
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digging deep.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And now, just to be fair, now, when we were young,
you guys, the equation that equals we were doing our
best man we did was we were still doing that. Okay,
the equation was different, you know. The equation now involves
actually things like, oh, I know, we don't look like
we can do much, but you know, that kind of
stuff is going on now, you know, because I'll never forget, Paul.
(10:40):
I will never forget the first time I visually saw
Howard Klin. Okay, it was very It was eleven years ago,
and it was at night, and we didn't know each
other at all, and he's down a path coming at me.
We're at the busses whatever on the buses, and when
he's walking toward me, I kind of don't know it's
him it's kind of shady, and he's coming right at me,
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and I'm coming right at him and hadn't been introduced ever,
so so I said, oh my god to myself. When
he got close, it's Howard, And I said, oh, hi, Howard,
and he goes hey, but both kept walking and that
was that. Okay, Now we're going to become great friends
and all that. But I got to tell you when
I walked by him, I said to myself, oh my god,
I hope that guy can sing. Oh my I did, Paul.
(11:27):
You know, we're all shuffling along by then, right right,
and so, and as was he, you know, And I'll
never forget thinking now for your listeners and viewers, Howard
Kaitlin is going to show me after that night that
not only is he's going to be the best singer
of all the singers in the camp. Okay, but I
don't know that yet. I don't know these old people
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who can do what yet at all. But he did
not likely look like he could do what he did.
And then that first show, my first show I married,
my jaw dropped. I thought, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
You know, yeah, and when you guys past each other
down that down that walkway.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Bob, he didn't know who the hell you were.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I don't think he did. I don't. I agree with you. Yeah,
it was like it was outside, you know, it was
kind of dark, right, And I said, hi, Harbard, what's
it gonna say? Nothing?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Right?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, yeah, I just said he and he shuffled up
and I looked at that. Wow he's not he's Oh
my god. That's a great letter. Of course. Then you
know there's example, an after example after even us and
little Anthony, of of the people that, yeah, we sort
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of don't look at anymore, but we sound it, and
that's all our audience wants. They don't look at either.
Half of them probably can't even hear half of it,
you know, and we just want to hear it the
way we know it and remember it. And that's what
that tour and show delivers. Yep, that's the beauty of it.
That's that's you get to see Gary Pucket. We're so
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happy he's back this this summer because he was on
the bench last summer until Mark Lindsay hurt his ankle. Yes, yes, indeed.
So you know it's like a baseball team, you know me,
you call the mansion there Gary's here. He was great.
It was so cool. I mean, called up from the
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miners because some look what happened to Bregman and the
Red Sox man. And then up comes Carmelo or somebody
like that from the Triple eight team because of the injury.
It's like, man, Gary's with us and there you seah
Now Troy, he's like a comedian. Gary's funny. But Gary,
you get a lot of warmth between the him and
the audience. That's a whole different vibe. It's like there's
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a real connection between Gary Pucket and they happy together audience,
and we see it all the time, and it is there.
It's magical, Yeah, it is. That's his thing. And Little
Anthony just has to breathe and everyone applauds.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
So yeah, just him getting out there. But no, but
he kills it.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
You got you gotta wait, do you hear Little Anthony?
I mean literally, fifty seven nights, Little Anthony is gonna
hear applause from the audience after the very first line
he sings in the night, and it's said every night
he's going to hear applause after the very first line
of his song. Yep, for sure, I you me, but
(14:31):
I remember you.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Hey, let's let these people know where we're going to
be playing. Now that it's almost sorted, you know what
it is.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
At least we have the near future coming and we
all know about the fifty seven cities of the Happy
Together tour. You can go to Paradise artist dot com.
It's there. You can see the whole list. It's terrific.
But in the context of that, right after that tour
ends August thirty first. On September third, we're going to
Atlantic City to play at the Mark Arnikars on the boardwalk,
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Kennedy Plaza on the Boardwalk, Atlantic City. Showtime eight thirty
and we'll be there full band, and we'll be seeing
out the summer. This is now Labor Day weekend coming there.
Yes it is. Yep, we shaid have a pretty cool night.
You know, you're going to check our website Adventuity for
any kind of details in terms of is it free,
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does it I don't know. It's on the boardwalk, I
can't remember. We'll find that out now. Now. After that, folks,
we have six Trio shows. The Trio show is popular.
The Trio Show is I don't know, it's kind of
taken off. It's kind of fun. We love it so
here they are ready. I'll go fast because you can
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tape it. Wednesday, September tenth, Arlington used to call it
to twenty four North Center Street, Arlington, Texas. Show Time
seven thirty. Okay, there's a October thirty. There's four in
a row, folks. There's d October thirtieth the Port Washington Library,
one Library Drive, Port Washington, New York. That's out on
Long Island. Showtime to be determined. Friday, October thirty, FIRS,
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we are doing Halloween on Times Square at the Iridium
in New York City, sixteen fifty Broadway, New York City, Showtime,
eight thirty p m. Okay, folks, they want us there
for that. And then on November one, very next night,
we are driving to Riverhead, New York. It's New Jersey, actually,
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I mean Long Island. The Suffolk. Okay, out on Long Island. Okay,
you're going to see us there at the Suffolk in Riverhead,
New York. That's out of Long Island. And then the
very next night after that, November two, we're at the
Avenue of the Performing Arts Center in Avenel, New Jersey.
Showtime seven p m. Trio shows and then finally Monday,
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December fifteenth, our residency the Main Street Crossing on Main
Street and tom All, Texas Baby, and that's pretty cool. Yeah,
because you guys, ye, our trio show is like remember
do you remember when the phrase unplugged was popular. Oh,
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there are the Eagles unplugged, this band unplug, unplugged, unplug
dumb plug. It's kind of like that. It's kind of
like that. It's two guitars, I always go our trio
show is two guitars, twelve strings, twenty fingers and three voices.
And if we can't manage with that, and we do
create a pretty big sound. We heard it back once.
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It's like that's pretty cool. And then we've been told
at meet and greets they're different than the band meet
and grease. Here's the trio meet and greet. It's like, wow,
it was really nice hearing those harmonies, like without all
the other stuff around it kind of kind of comments
and stuff, which is true for us too. We here
it's so easy to sing without. I mean, we love
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the full band, the energy man sign us up every night,
but yeah, man, this trio show, we're loving hearing each
other and blending and and we get to tell more stories.
There's more history, we get interaction with the audience, we
get Q and A's, we get meat increase at the end.
It's pretty cool night.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
It is. It's funny though, because I don't know if
you think of this, but I almost when we first
started throwing the trio thing around, you know, I almost
felt like we were kind of jipping the audience because
you know, it's not the.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Big band sound, and you know there's not a bunch
of people up there. But I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
People really love the trio thing and they've seen the
band show and they you know, and they they're thinking
that they're loving this because they do get to hear
the harmonies, you know, because we're singing, you know, when
we're just the three of us in the trio show. Again,
we're doing our very best, and that could be pretty good,
especially when we can hear each other just maculately.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
That's really great.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
It's a quiet intimate experience also in the club itself.
But hey, even Jackson Brown and James Tayler, you've heard
about him. Oh, they're doing a solo tour that you're
going out all alone. Yeah, all alone, you know, and
it's kind of the same thing. You know, you're going
to hear their songs naked, and the way you write
them is basically how you hear with those guys because
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they don't bring five harmonizers with them that it's them alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So it's a cool thing to do, and we're just
experiencing it now and getting book more on them and
getting to it's like almost a career path Lane that
we really never took advantage of her did much except
once in a while, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Yep, yeah, And now it's like, yeah, yeah, I remember
years ago were we with TCI, maybe with Mitchell Cardouna,
but we were with them, and he had an agent
working for him, and we kept telling that agent.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Dude, you know, because he's going, well, you know, it's
just it costs too much.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
We can't book the band, we can't book the band.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
And we were going, well, look at what about the
three of us, And we were telling them that we
had a show that we felt could really be good,
but they never went for it ever, and so.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, we can share the art with the audience. What
Paul just said, it's absolutely correctly because I don't know
what it is they don't want to work at that
level or something. Because we're about to give four of these,
the four in a row that we just read to
you guys tonight. Paradise doesn't even know we have those.
We booked these, but we're going to show them by
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presenting them like this is what we're talking about. You know,
this is an example of an area. And you just
go like, I know, we can do four of these
in New England. I know we can do four you
know what I mean. We can bounce around with this.
So we're loving it, and you know, we're looking two
to three hundred seaters basically, Usually it's about where we're
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at with this kind of venue. What kind of venues
are we hitting up with clubs? And some are bigger
and they cut it off or something.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
But well, what we did do that was with the association.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
But you know, we did take our threes from to
Nebraska and Kansas and these were a twelve hundred seater and.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
A semer bigger and the seven.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Sixty seater which was in Carnie, Nebraska. We actually she
had two shows and we actually filled that up twice.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
It was really great. It was really great and people,
you know, they loved it.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Again, it was a trio, so that brought us to
even that because that ended up being perfect opening for
the Association. So these shows were doing alone. That's true here,
but look what we got to do with it also
by going with another band and getting into a bigger
venue and being the open and act for a bigger
sound that they can have that night. And well, we
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did what we do and it's still working so good.
We could do that with a lot of the groups.
I mean to do that with Gary and Peter and
any of them.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
So that's and by the way, there's more gigs, guys.
We're we haven't closed out December twenty eighth in Saint Charles,
Illinois yet, so we're not really promoting it. I'm trying
to see where that's at. But technically right now it's
a night of Harmony. It's called i think with the
American Harmony with the Vogues and the Association and the
Cowcils at the uh you know, the unsty Boys, ron.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Arcada.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
It might be the Arcada. Yeah, So we're working on that,
on closing that out. And hey, it's Susie c Man
Wait anytime, anytime, I Susan. She called me, and I go, Susan,
Bam bam, bam bamp. Hey, we're in our episode. So
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you're like the guest. Hey, we just went We just
went through all of our cool gigs that we have coming.
I need to even get into next year. We didn't
even talk about that.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
If you could have.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Seen in the last twenty minutes, Hi, everybody, Hey casters Susan.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So people, you know the thing Paul and I opened
with about getting ready what we had to go through
for the Happy Together tour, and Paul Susan has just
to bring up to speed, has taken the audience through
the trip to Oregon over Sisters Pass, the three and
a half hour bus round, the type of buses you
can actually choose from. We got into some deep dive yep.
(23:30):
And so now here's Susan in the middle of her version.
We know nothing about it, but Susan Annow is presenting
in our episode in the middle of her version of
going over Sisters Pass, leaving it for you coming into
Portland a day early.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So how you doing.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
I'm great, I'm doing really good. I am very very busy.
This is like a reality show, is what I will call.
This particular podcast is a fleet reality show as well.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Double.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
First of all, we all know that we're down to
the fire palls at a hotel bed.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Cornfield.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Nobody has a green screen up.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Oh no, no, and thank god I'm blurred because I
mean okay. So, so two day John and Vic left
because this week we had a benefit. We were performing
all Tom. We had to learn all Tom petty songs
over the last four or five days. We had a
benefit and John and Vic came into it because it
was a Continental Drifter manager.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
So Vic came in and John's with Vi. So and
this is the like usually like the week before.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Happy Together is a cleared out week. Nobody gets by
my door. Russ and I are hanging out, we're packing.
And also on top of it, he has a nine
day run.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
He's leaving on day afternoon, while so so and then
you know, then everybody and oh oh and Nicholas our
son while he has a lovely new girlfriend that all
got to meet this week, and so everything, and then
let's not forget all the.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
It's just so.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Then John and Vic leave, and then Nick and his
girlfriend leave, and then Mariana, then the baby leave, and
then Russ goes because he's got to go to the
Sprint store because he's got to get his phone before
his tour tomorrow. And so I say to myself, Wow,
and I already packed about a week early all my
work clothes because I know I can't pack with people around.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm too holy.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I mean, if you it sounds like, oh my god.
So it's a cafeteria at a pre k is what
my house sounds like. Kit it so because everybody's visiting
and it's like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So they leave and I go, this is it. I
have an hour and a half before podcasts.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
I get to like really focus, like et cetera and
tailand all band aids, Q tips you know what I'm
talking about, gentlemen, that kind of thought. I lost four
sets of sunglasses today because I'm talking to people while
putting them somewhere, and then I go to I don't
know where I'm with them, So I had to refine
everything I packed while everybody was here.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Now TikTok TikTok, TikTok, TikTok.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
And then the next thing I know, it's ten after eight,
Holy blazes, So I come blowing into the office.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
No Russ and it's gotten the screen on I've never
seen in my life. So then the Bob sends an
email zoom that has a picture of cocaine drain. But
I don't see the zoom thing like I normally see it.
But I'm a guy for this, So I go down
to the bottom of the screen and I go to zoom,
but it's not always there when I want it, like
the zoom icon. But it was put it in, put
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these in, and I'm here.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And gentlemen, was the answer to So Sisan, what are
you in the middle of?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, and I mean, yeah, I know anyway, And it's
all good because.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It is, you know, in the book in the Book
of our Lives, this chapter today is called see you
in Melbourne. Okay.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
I mean I've been gone all week because like once
we get and now in him and a tour too,
so now we're both like.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
He's going, I'm going to John Gross and all my equipment.
I'm going to Walgreens to get the last of the
Ibuy profen Tyland all band aids, you know, I'm going.
And then John and Vicker like we're going to lunch
and then and they have been amazing because you know,
they know what it's like, right, Yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Were any just a divert a little. Are there any
anybody record anything on the Tom Petty Night?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I think, well, I know that there was a recording
made for Scott. We didn't live stream because it was
really was a personal thing. But we sold tickets because
we were trying to raise money for this family because
they're they're kind of in's. He's a music it's not
he's a musician, but he's a manager, he's a music journalist, he's.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
You know, he was a he was a school teacher too.
But anyway, we raised a lot of money and Bob,
it was really good because these guys Refugee, I got Refugee,
free Falling, stop Dragon of course with you know insert
avon here, these bands, it will show up on YouTube,
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hope you guys.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Just just so you know, these bands that Susan works
with down in New Orleans, I mean, yeah, there's some
some components that are are more in and out, but
everyone's out. Sometimes they're just a bunch of happy you
know how good they're happy together band. Just just think
that and these other bands that she plays with can
do what they do, Okay, for whatever album they're going
to do or whatever. You know they're not good. They
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work into the albums like these guys morph into the presence.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
John grows on those Organs, grows on the Organs on Refugee.
You know, I know you need Yeah, So and listen,
and John and Vitt joined in. I had my Dylan knight. See,
I agreed to take a Dylan knight two months ago
because there was no scott Age benefit. The week before
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he was leaving. There was nothing.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
There was no visitors, there was nothing, and I'm oh,
you know, I'm going to be packing and I'd love to.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Do one last thing, so I take it right. And
then now John and Vicker intown.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
So we did Knocking on Heaven's Door and you guys
will laugh because this was a snow day move.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So the big night of Dylan. Everybody's got two songs, right,
but we got started late.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
So I get there and Alex McMurray suggests to the
person doing it, because he's a snow day man too.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
He goes, listen, you know, I mean we're getting started,
like maybe we should be cutting some people.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Everybody has two and Dylan's songs are too long and
Alex goes and let me be the first two, you know,
you know, offer up all kind of song.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And the lady running at Megan, she's like, you would
do that?
Speaker 6 (29:40):
He went, I would, and he goes and I think
there's one other person who'd be willing to do that.
He goes, hey, Susan, come here because he knows I
want out because I'm losing my mind.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
And so Megan goes, oh, no, I would never ask her.
I go, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Alice goes to listen, we are running late and they're
looking for a couple of people to sacrifice a song.
So I got rid of the eleven verse Joker Man
and it did Knocking on Heaven's Door, and then I
had John and Victim up and we showed a show
run Home.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Run, just so you know, like the Council's version of
what Susan just spoke about was the best words any
of us here would be, Well, you know, we could
do this tomorrow if you want to.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
It was hilarious. You're gonna love me. Oh, And then
there's always the guy like so then and then there's
always somebody who who who gets asked and goes.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
I worked very hard on these just like okay, not you,
not you moving away, and like you know, then there's
us just you know, look, if I need to give.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
All of them, just MC you tell me.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Very good, you know. All right, that's it.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
As soon as I'm done here, guys, I will be
sitting right back in front of my electronic bag and
my med back where I went.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Susan is what we can discuss. At least what Susan
came in. The very first thing she said was I'm looking.
I see this cocaine drain stuff and yes, cocaine drane.
We have an album coming down. We can talk about it.
So that is where folks, just so you know, we're deciding.
We're deciding.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I said, are we keeping you? No?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
No, I'm fine, I'm fine. Listen to me, Susan, listen
to me. He took us through everything he went through
to look like that and make you ask that. So
he's fine.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Oh should I go watch the podcast and find out
what happened to Paul today?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You know what, I think everybody should have the luxury
of leaving a day early, take to be able to
take a very deep breath and then proceed, which is
really what the universe makes Paul do when it has
to be done this way. It's true.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Listen, I was so desperate right to not be doing
anything but this and not people trying to take me
to dinners.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
I mean it has been a lot today. I mean,
nobody's looking at this person, who is just going, are
you kidding me? Right now? But I was so des
Wait what was I just going to say? I am
so oh my god?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Okay, I'll finish. So like September eighth or somewhere around,
their Cocaine Drain album vinyl and CD is coming out,
and just to alert, I did my interview with Brett Mulano.
He's going to be chasing you guys down. He's doing
the line. Okay, he's getting Susan Friday, He's getting down.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
He's getting John Thursday. Because John was sitting next to
me when Brent texted.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Me he's going to email you, Paulie, and then so
he go right up that and uh, I've collected some
pretty amazing photos guys. You know, we were a nutty
buddy looking at during their cocaine great days. Let's the
Mammoth and all the business there, you know, with the
beards and the and Paul, you looked right out at
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three Dog Night, Man.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Negro.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
No, Paul, Paul's looking during Cocaine drenas Chuck is to me,
Chuck Negron, I mean you just look like him.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Oh, he totally does. Back then that was the irony
of the whole thing. He probably knew it.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So we're trying to figure out a cover and the
record company wants us to make a decision and all that.
So we got a couple of choices we're going to
go through. Now they were together, we can do it easy.
We have shout outs to do for the Kentucky I'm
just taking the business meeting now for the Kentucky State Fair.
We can do that when we get together. Okay, something important.
(33:36):
It'll be easier if we're together to do that now
than to do it.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Savannah and Miranda coming to the IP again. If we
want to go, they're going to want to go get
barbecue at that place.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Susan Place. Yeah, that's Susan's place. Man, where people.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Find barbecue place too, right?
Speaker 4 (33:55):
It is it is?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Remember that place?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
In Savannah I was like, oh, the barbecue show. I
call her mob boss.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Yeah, that's got to be early in the in the tour,
right it always is.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, it's Saturday, Savannah told me, see Saturday.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Monday, okay, Saturday. Well that'll be a whole new experience.
I wonder if they'll want to watch from the side.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You can't, no babies, oh the children?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right? I didn't know that. Oh right, it's a casino.
I always think, I p is it's a resort place
to be on the war Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
And what.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Was it, Joe, Oh, I know, John and VICKI are
probably going to do six months in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Moved to Nashville and be those guys for six months?
Why not?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I think Paul's from there or you know, the guy
that they mainly work with, their producer guy. And I'm
going to just, you know, do that and see what
that's like. We have a friend named Jim McCormick here.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
He was from here, and he and another guy from here,
they moved to Nashville and did the thing and started
writing with you know, and then get the Toby Keith.
You know, like they did it and had they had
to stay there for years and suffered greatly, and you know,
not be from don't act like they're from New Orleans
and all kinds of fun stuff and you know, but
they're very successful. And Jim McCormick, who has written hit
(35:29):
after hit for guys like Toby Keith and whoever all
those dudes are. And he was at the petty thing
because he was a kid here, you know, and I said, hey,
Vic and John are move and I go, man, take
them in and show them how to write and do
all the stuff that I would never do.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I couldn't do it. Nashville's hard.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
We evacuated there and had to, you know, try it
on to see if maybe we'd move there because we
didn't know if we were coming home and it was rough.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
They say it's nicer now. I was a news flash.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I support it. They're entering the Hub, they're armed, they're ready,
you know, from their perspective. I think that album could
be embraced by Nashville.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I do.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And if you want to fight it, fine, all right,
you don't want to be country whatever, but Country's not coming.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
I actually had a premonition before I was told this.
I was dozing off in the.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Car one afternoon, trying to get things done this week,
and I pulled over, so I didn't fall asleep while
I was driving because I haven't been sleeping well. And
I was kind of daydreaming on the side of the
road and I had a premonition daydream and I was
not asleep, and it was vic In this kind of
like black and white sequin and it was like kind
of like had like eighties pointed shoulders. They were in
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Nashville and they were they. I was like, what are you, Dolly,
and she was like yeah, and like but it was
like happening.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
And when she said that, I went, I got a
chill because I went, uh, I had a premo.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
So who knows, Yeah, you could be Dolly. Listen, Vickie's
k be and Dolly. Okay. I remember that Platinum party
that me and Cecil went to when the Bengals, when
the Bengals came out in these outfits and they were
in carrig right, Yeah, like Audrey had big rimmed hats
(37:16):
with long sticks cigarettes at the very end, all of them.
It was but it was the eighties. It was the eighties.
Everything was over the top. And and of course we
were in a big crowd of people that waited and waited, okay,
and then a door opened and it's like, honestly, god,
(37:37):
it's like four queens walked out of the door and
helped court. Because this is big time celebrating platinum.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
This is a platinum part.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Okay, so this is no small affair. This is serious stuff.
And they're in character and playing what they played. You know,
let's be this tonight because it could be you know,
they're that famous and that big now, and it was
an enjoyable things.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Their parents would come to, Milton Jean would go to everything.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Bengals were lucky that they came out when they did
because they were at the very end of like a
real you know, records are being sold and they're being bought,
and there's radio stations that's all gone now, but.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You buddy, was all gone.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
They got that of the importance of videos. I mean,
we all knew that Susannah Hoffs and this reached everybody
looked to the left and right as she sang her
lead vocals. Sometimes you learn that from the video, you know,
And that's how big deal they were.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
But anyway, but.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Interestingly enough, while we were you know, getting these petty
things under our belts and doing them, you know, John
Vick and I we did every background.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Phil Seymour is on three of those songs. Yeah, yeah,
he's and owned Dan and aid that's Philip.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Did you do a little runaway something on a dream
or something.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Running down a dream?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
John?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Are you are the tracks? Are you being kind of
true to the tracks?
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah? They did amazing.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
You guys helped you out there. Phenomenal. And Samantha Fish,
who we should have on our podcast.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
She's up and coming. She's not from here, but coming
out of here. She's a rock chick. She's cool. She
opened for the Stones, but she's like a homegirl. We're
gonna have her on the pod, y'all. And she came
and she lent her name and we raised. This was
sold out. People know Scott here.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Scott was the Times picking in music critic, music journalist
from the nineties on and then he was a huge
part of the Jazz and Heritage Festival. Just just a
music entrepreneur, guy manager, but one of the good one
was a good guy.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So people came out and drove. It was insane. I
haven't seen Tips that crowded in a long time.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
So, wow, joint everybody, We're gonna go back to packing.
Oh my God, and trying to not forget anything.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Uh always forgot this again.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Crazy. And so just so you guys know, we're keeping
up with our episodes.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You know, I remember what I wanted to say about
the boss.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
To the dressing room or that this or the that
go ahead, Susan.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
Okay, So we're talking about how crazy our schedules are
to leave. And I was so desperate that I was
reading our texts okay about today's podcast, and they were
but they were from yesterday. But I was so desperate today.
Bob's last thing he said.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
To us yesterday was, Okay, see you at the podcast.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
I'm getting on the plane for Denver. Oh trouble, hope
I make it. See you at the podcast tomorrow. So
I thought, we're not doing it today, We're doing it tomorrow.
And when we get together, and I got all excited,
and then you came back, going, we are doing it today,
and I looked and it said yesterday. I was so
desperate to not do it today. I made yesterday today than.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Were losing tomorrow. When you thought we were going to
have to get to the hotel room and do this
and we're not going to have to do it.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, and I know that should feel good, but it's
a desperation that I have now I don't know. And
it's all good, guys, it's going to be amazing. We'll
be in our coffins in no time like vampires.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
No, just real quick. So you're doing this, and you're
doing that, and you got twenty people and you can't
even pack because it's so noisy, and you're losing four sunglasses.
You're just over the top. It's like, ohzy, there eye
on the other hand.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And everybody's gone now. But that's why I forgot about
you guys for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
But I have quiet. So I developed birth anxiety. And
I'm not talking about a pregnant woman's first delivery. I'm
talking about b E r T A run. And this
is a real thing. It's like going over a bridge
when you don't like to. But I get birth anxiety
and I know it's coming, and there's no It's like lava.
(42:15):
It's it's not gonna not come. It's gonna take outs.
You know, you might as well move. Don't think you're
gonna stop it. So here it comes. It's gonna take
those nights that it takes and it's fine, you know,
but I can't even visualize it. I get closed.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh my god, and yours is at the bottom. If
I wish you'd move to a middle, it wouldn't be
as harrowing.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
No no, no, no, no no no no no no
no no. I need I need a swift exit. I
need a swift exit.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
The only change is ten. This is our eleventh summer, now,
eleven summers ago. I rolled out of my berth, jumped
up and got to the lounge really quick. It was
just almost like one movement. After about eight years on
the road. I don't know when it started. Maybe two
years ago it became two movements. Because yet it's so
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easy to roll out of the bottom berth. But now
you're on the floor. No really, I'm serious. Now you're
on the floor and you're not hopping up anymore, because
you're going to go on your knees first, okay, And
now it's a two three step event, and and then
you gotta and you gotta unbend, and then you can
go to the lounge. I'm just laughing about no.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
No, And then there's walking watch.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It's so true. I don't want to have to miss
judge the heights of the middle berth or have anything
to do with the upper berth.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm going up top.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
This is my history with the tour. It's not going
to change, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
But look, we have we have more junk bunk and
John even said if we were one less person, we
could even get we could turn our beds into condo bunks.
Because that's what it is, is this lack of bodies.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I don't think you can adjust a single bunk into
a condo bunk.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Can Johnny knows you can.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
He's a carpenter, of course, but it would have to
be done at the fust place, correct, Yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Okay, yeah, I'm sure doing that right now, as soon
as we get as soon as we get out of Melbourne,
get the tool kit.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
It's our surprise when we get out there. Not anyway,
all right, hey you.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Guys, I ain't gotta happen.
Speaker 6 (44:22):
My electronics are rude because I jumped up and everything flew.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Oh you're right, all right, everybody, all right, now we
are going across the country starting tomorrow. We'll see everybody
out there. We will, and we love you all, and
we will see you all there.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
We do, and I'll see you guys. Are we on
the second leg together? Is that what I'm told?
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'm getting in at six thirty five or twenty?
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Are you guys flying from Atlanta from I go to Atlanta,
Atlanta to mel to Florida?
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Me too, Paul, Yeah, I go. I get in at
six o'clock to Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I think we do. I think we're all together on
that second flight.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I get in six twenty five from LA He's coming
from Portland. But we'll see, we'll get close enough.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
We're magically on.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
This is gonna lift over.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I love you, guys. Bye, I see you guys.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Everybody, everybody out there, Okay, everybody.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
We hope you enjoyed visiting with us today.
Speaker 4 (45:20):
We definitely had a blast visiting with you.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
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Speaker 3 (45:24):
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Speaker 1 (45:31):
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