October 2, 2025 • 42 mins
Well folks it finally happened. We apparently experienced a technical difficulty and our guest, Johnny Whitaker, couldn't make it. So Johnny will be with us next week so we can do more than just talk about him in the meantime enjoy a short visit and we'll see you next week.
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I saw them sitting in the range.
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Hi, you're the councils.
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I'm Paul, I'm Bob, and I'm Susan cowcill And welcome, Welcome,
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All of us can use a break sometimes take a breezer.
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Right right right, Well, if that's true for you, then
you have a arrived at the right place at the
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So we want you to sit.
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Back, bringing back and escape with.
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Us and to our world of harmony, laughter and tom
foolery too.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
So let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Here's today's episode of the Castle Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh yeah, we's all sitting in the rain.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
We are you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I don't know about being on time. Oh guys, guess
where I am?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Where you am?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I am in Pensacola, Florida.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I can tell because of your blurred background.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I have blurred background. I'm in a beach hotel at
beach hair and we're at the beach. Russ had gigs
and I was his roady and I escaped the insanity
at home for two days and We're very excited.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
What it's like. The first place of cola, Coca cola.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, it was the first place of pences, Pences, and
I haven't figured out what a pence is yet, but
once I do.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
So anyway, here autumn it is crazy crazy. I don't
mean to bring up topics, but if you're a baseball fan,
it is absolutely bonker wild. Okay, the playoffs are here.
We're loving it. We love the one hundred mile per
hour fastballs, we love all the miss calls and strikes
(01:55):
by the umpires. Now, it's all been a lot of
fun for it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So of my least favorite aspects of most ball games.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Myself, I will admit that yesterday, the first day of
the playoffs, I actually did sit and watched for baseball games.
I've never done that. I know it's crazy, but Yankees
and who's not going to watch Yankees? And Red Sox?
Who's not going to watch the Dodgers? Then you got
a good point you what to say about that? But anyway,
(02:27):
I do.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's nice to have edge.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, we got good. Did you know we have a guest?
But did you know Johnny Whittaker played Santa Claus? I
think you might be the first guy I've met, what
personally I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Meet who played Santa, who played.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Santa Claus in a movie called A Husband for Christmas.
It's just a little factoring on you. I bet Whittaker
is our guest. We do have this, may I speak.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I would like to say that he was the first
Scottie Baldwin on General Hospital. I found this out in
our deep dive. Scotty Baldwin is we all know General
Hospital people is one of our main players. This young
man was the first Scottie Baldwin, probably in the early sixties.
We'll find out.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And of course Jody on Family Affair with Buffy and
Jody mister French.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Loved that show.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I watched it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I wore Buffy wear. She had a clothes, a line
of clothing going on around that time.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I think I wore a Jody had about I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Think Joby had Jody ware, but we'll find that out too.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did they have merds back then? I don't know if
they had merds back then, but this was an important show.
Yet another family, even though they were three orphan kids
moving in with a rich uncle. That sounded good to
a lot of us.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah that sounded great to.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, yet another family that we wanted to kind of
be a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man, like what happened to the parents. Oh that's terrible,
but they moved it with Uncle Beal.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, a rich, rich uncle with a butler who said yes.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
To everything, but only after he smashed his face for
a while thinking it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, I don't really.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I didn't watch that so much.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
I didn't watch you you were too old.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
No, no, no, no, no, we watched it. We watched it,
but you saw I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I don't mean it was on in the house boys
like it was on.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
It was on, It was on.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I just it wasn't anything that we were, like you said,
we were going into other interests. Yeah, but I do
remember it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I can still sing the song if you'd like me to.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I do not know the song, but.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I do know that, and it would start off and
it would go.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Family.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
You cannot You just told us you checked out. You
can't be surprised you don't know the theme song.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No, I know, I'm not surprised, but we just want to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Can I tell you what we really all want to know?
Why do you know family affairs?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I know that melody. Yeah you did. It was a
big Brian's funny big ends like.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
This it goes. But but I'm bum.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Bum oh, I know that I recognize that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's the end of Family Affair.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Dude, I need to give you context, okay about that
show and maybe Paul too, I don't know. Okay, Big
Brian Keith fan listen, Brian Keith was the star of
Family Affair, not Jody and Buffy. Okay, we're gonna inherit
the kids, Sebastian Cabot. Big Brian was huge, big star.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The older people are all over this is their show.
Oh look how they have three our friends nephews, nieces
and nephews.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So I'm just letting you know. The appeal was not
the kids. For older people. It was and so other people.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Who knew Brian outside of this show, not me. I
didn't know who the guy was. But so you're like,
what's this actor guy doing.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
On this TV show?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Copy understood because he was in cool combat type movies
or war movies or.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Just one of those guys man.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah, it is one of those cats.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Was it not cool? Seeing Johnny Whittaker's pictures from all
the five Disney movies, that beautiful technicolor in those Yes,
it was odd.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Man, Mark Twain, the Tom Sawyer Poets is great.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was still so cool, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It looked like a beautiful life, you know, I mean
he did all that kid worked a lot, he was
on easy everything.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I wanted.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Where do you go to school?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's what I want to know. I want to know
before like because look, but he was Scotty Baldwins the
General Hospital came on. I mean seen sixty four he right,
So thet's so Audrey. I mean, I know where Scotty
came from. So from that's from Audrey and Steve. They
had megat Scotty and Scottie is.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But to prepare for this, you're really like all the
child actors and actresses back then. He's way more than
that TV show. Okay, so you want to google and
do some research. You won't believe what this man. Yeah,
and lived.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And he's had a big life.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I think he became a successful He had his own detours,
which of us didn't back then, and he had his
But he's a success man. He's like a din and
Star to me.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I wonder if I wonder if he's got the camaraderie
with the other kids, like most of these folks do,
these TV kids, they all know each other, they all
hang out.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I think that the little girl passed away.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
She did Anessa Jones. I got to tell you. She's
my age and like literally was living in the canyon
I was living in at the time. I was living
in the canyon. We were both to be too young
to be living in that. That's all I want to
say about that. And I made it out. She did not.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I didn't know her way the way it went his way. Yeah,
really different paths. He was sixteen when she died at eighteen,
So this is gonna really righteck this guy.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, because that was his cyst. I mean that was
and she you know, she went down that path. That's
how she died. So he's got a story to tell us.
So we look forward to that and he'll be here soon, right, guys.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Five minutes he's going to pop in. So exciting. We
got a good report today. We will be at the
Golden Nugget in Las Vegas, January thirtieth, that residency as
they call it, well they did, but you guys, you
know what a residency is now you see. Oh, here's
(08:49):
their new residency in Vegas. And whoever they're talking about
has a couple of weekends in a row and that's
us and they have it every year. So that's their
new residency, you know, and that's us. Yeah, you got
you know, seven months at the Caesar Palace Auditorium there
for a rig there for two years. By the way,
we do want to let everyone know that our brother
(09:11):
John and Vicki John Colson and Vicki Peterson's duo will
be at the Coach House in San Juan Cappasuino Saturday
opening for.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Wayne Wayne new Are you going?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
No, I can't go. I've assigned We have talked to
John about this and we have assigned him the responsibility
of securing Wayne Newton as a podcast guest, and he
said that he's going to try and do that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, great, Then when we get him on our podcast,
we open for him and he can call me Shoeshy again. Show.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I tell you, we just love the way that guy talked.
We love the way he treated our mom. Ready to
rate he treated us.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He was so sweet. You got to preciure his family
over real, Shoeshy over there.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Pressures, pressuous people, missus Council, and then we did that.
I remember we did that crap music called they found
a Wayne Newton, a mini Wayne Newton, which I viewed
Brian Bryan Browning was that his.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Name brown Bryan Browning, Bryant.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Browning Bryant was a guest with us. And this kid
was an absolute mini Wayne Newton. He just was. He
totally was sang great. He was fourteen.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I think I don't want dude, but may I tell
you something about Browning. Bryant went on to be a
super legit recording artist, came to New Orleans, Louisiana, recorded
with Alan Twusant, and has an incredible solo album of
some amazing music from New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, wow, let's get him on.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He passed away.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
We can't get him on.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
We can't, we can't. And I and his family. I
was in touch with his family a little bit because
I'd found him on Facebook and it was right when
he had passed, and they were tickled because apparently he
loved his time with us, because kids with kids on
shows is so much fun. Browning Brian update, But please, people,
podcast people go find this guy's record. It's really good
Browning Bryant, really really good.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's you know, they go on to have careers even
though they're not super super famous, and that's sure front
of everyone's.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh and like and the album cover has got long
hippie hair. You guys, would it would trip you out?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Because well that would be fun?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, well you know to that point, and this was
what I was trying to remember.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
To that point.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Uh, you know, the people that go on the Voice
and the American Idol and all those things, even like
the second, third, fourth place, people like make a record.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know they've already you know, all the.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Way down trying to no losers.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You had to no losers.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You're probably, in my opinion, not knowing too much, so
I shouldn't say too much. You probably get a better
deal than if you want, because they run you man.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Man, look look, Paul, remember a little a Lexi, our
Alexi was on the Voice and and there it's a thing.
You know, you go in there and you present yourself
and they go, okay, here's your choices. You can sing
this song, this song, this song, or is this song.
We'll want you to wear this, this, this, this, and this.
We're gonna put your hair up like this, and next
(12:14):
thing you know, Alexis was out there in her hair
in kind of a forties scoop and she was singing
Landslide or something, and it was just not right for
lex Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I wonder if she had the feeling or her people
with her parents may have the feeling like I don't
know about this, but you oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
For sure, for sure, because you know they're trying to
create you.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
And what's interesting?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I was just going to say, what's interesting. I hope
I'm not. I hope I'm on the same subject. It
might not be.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But you know, Johnny Whitaker, did he do a record.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh yes, Oh yes, he had a song. He had
a song Every Little Boy Can Be President. It was
a it was a fourth of July hit, I think,
and we're gonna talk to I know it well. I
sang a little bit of it on.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Our last Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I gotta plug in you guys. Oh hi, I just
cussed on.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I never did hear about that. Usually that would be
in the literature.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I wonder, how Yeah, that's why I was wondering.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I can sing it. I gotta get plugged in
or I won't be seeing Johnny Whittaker or you guys
or anybody.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I wonder if it hit the charts like all of
them seem to have done.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That's why I was curious, you know, because he's friends
with Paul Peterson. Yeah, and you know, and all these
young stars did that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Hold on, I gotta find guys. This is live, This
is Live TV.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
While she's looking for electricity, now's he looks actually standing
on a planet. Uh. Remember Cocaine Grain album that's out.
It came out the nineteenth. Look for it. We'll have
it with us on the shows we're at. We'll have
it on the merch table and again it all.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The young kids are loving it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Hey, that was Uh we got a little report from
the front line of young kids and it was a
good report. So it was, oh, we all take notes.
You know what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I am here right now, I'm looking.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I don't hear much about Kathy Garber. Oh Sissy, Yeah,
And I want to ask Johnny about her when he
comes on. I know he got tight with Anissa and
Anissa and uh, they're gonna they're gonna get each other
through the whole thing. But what was what was Kathy's role?
You got she was the big sister. No, no, no, no,
(14:31):
I know that was she there for him?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Also?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Did they just kind of coagulate as a duo during
those years and she had her own issues, you know,
and and working with Keith, Brian, Keith and Sebastian how
were they you know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
About So I'd want to hear about family affair myself.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, because you know it's interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yes, and so the so the title song was not it's.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
A family, a f family. That was a thing, a family,
our family. I think may Mabel is that Mabel? Is
that her name? Staple? I think there's one in Chicago
alive of the Staple family.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Are you read your text?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And the Dons I think was part of the Staple singers.
That's family.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But you know what Johnny Whittaker I like saying this
was an actor, a filmmaker, an educator, an acting teacher,
which is an interesting transformation I'm going to ask him about. Yeah,
an activist, activist. Definitely. You got to hear about this
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movie we we don't, we can't tell. It's a little
confusing a movie called Sky Blue Sky with any because
there's also a I think a wrestler named Sky Blue. Well,
I think you're somebody.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
There's also another movie out called sky Blue, but it's
s k y b l u E.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
And this is s k y e b l e U.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay, all right, good, all right, And.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
When you put that lettering in, then you come up
with Johnny Whitaker's movie. I like it.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I like it. I like it. Yeah, okay, so we
do have our trio swing that we can I got
to check emails when someone's not in, you know, yeah,
let me just make sure everything's okay. Trio Swing October thirtieth,
Port Washington Library, be there or be triangular, I say square,
(16:41):
Port Washington Library. Then the from there we go to
Halloween Night on Times Square in New York City at
the Iridium.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Super exciting.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, and then the night of November two, Avenel Performing
Arts Center in Avenel, New Jersey with the Tree. So okay, yes,
you guys should check this out. Follow us around. Man,
we're gonna make.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Up.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We are not opening for anybody, Okay. Now ever again,
look and look we can think out of the box.
I mean, if we want an opening act, let's send
Susan out and do three songs.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Oh yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
We want an opening act. We could have Paul go
out and juggle, okay, or do a piece from Shakespeare here.
We want an opening act.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You Paul juggles, you do songs. I do a pup set,
then we do the shows.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, he's never juggled another act.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I didn't say I want to, you know, I wonder
if there's another act on the Avenuel.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
There is nothing that I am aware of, all right,
but he has said there's another act on our shows.
And by the way, we just want you to know.
February twentieth, we're at the odium and uh, we're island
there man a bob Uh. It's Friday, February twentieth. Then
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the twenty first, we're at the cutting room in New York.
And at the twenty second we have now rebooked the
Riverhead Trio show and it's that Sunday at the end
of that weekend. So you people out there in the Riverhead,
come on out. We'll be there. I don't come.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Came on, came on, okay, running my new studio, killing me,
you killing I'm almost there, guys.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
The day of the.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Office, it's going here, it's going there. I can't watch, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I had to plug in.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Okay, that's okay, I don't mind. It's a beautiful thing.
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hey, so you know, I'm getting hardwood floors put in,
getting some hardwood floors put in. Wonder, and so I
decided that I needed to paint the house, you know,
before the hardware come in.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
And I really do need to paint.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
This is when Lucy it's a new couch.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I've got a little bit of trim left and
it looks really cool. And I wanted to mention it
because our main color is called Irish cream.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Oh I love it. You've got Irish cream on your.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Love? But is it a creamy color?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's nice?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
We love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But yeah, I've been painting. I've been painting for three days.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh wow, look at when I think of you, you're painting.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yes, you know, he's just beautiful.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I wonder if he wants three days painting job. I
got someone yeah, yeah, no no, But anyways, I've been
loving it. We are on the flower Power cruise again.
We are at Hobbit and Grace.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Again for we love the flower Power.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
More about that, we're waiting for excitingly in an excited
state waiting for Johnny Whitaker.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Do we talk about ponies?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Oh, let's talk about ponies. Okay, since I always loved horses,
so to me, I don't know, there's something about this
particular offer. But here's what happened, folks.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Are there real ponies involved?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
The pony stands for some acronym of oh the ia
or look, here's the deal guys. Next year, Peacock's coming
out with a show called Ponies p O N I E. S.
And it's kind of a premise of nineteen seventy seven Moscow,
Cold War CIA, this and that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Mission Impossible.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Okay, sounds exciting. We love that kind of stuff. Yeah,
and then they have reached out and we have ocated
to use the song two by two in their show Coller.
It was cool and they even send a us a synopsis,
which is why you're hearing about Moscow. And not only that,
(20:58):
but they told us what scene it's going to be
used in. Yeah, and one minute and twenty seven seconds
will be used of two by two in the scene
the song too, So we're excited about that. We know
it's behind dialogue, it's going to be behind maybe action,
but it's going to have the message or whatever. Two
by two, go open up the game.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Probably some people get killed, blown up to trust me,
trust me, it's going to be violent. I can't catch
a break. One of us was in some Chucky movie,
Paul and I. I mean, we'd rather die than.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Have either of you and I haven't. I'll admit it.
Have you any of you watched the scene in Chucky
where he's killing the uber driver with.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
The oh, I can't.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I have not either. I mean I had. There was
a kind of a cute scene when in that other show,
episode six of whatever show that was where the guys
shooting the guy in the swimming pool while we're in
the parks one with a dog, and remember that it's
still there.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, you know, I guess it's it's you know, the
irony of having the cosciles happily singing along all some
horrific things going on is just in right now under
the episode.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I pulled up the Chucky episode, the announcement of it
and the songs in there and down below, and you know,
it's so funny with people. Kudos to the councils for
allowing their song to be used. They thought it was
very artsy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh yeah, well, we we pick and choose these.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But Susan, as you know, a lot of songs are
really play a sad song with a beautiful or or
a harsh song with a beautiful mellod you know this
is a movie version of that. I think and kind
of accept it as okay, art got it. And then
I always think when when anything's used the bars today,
(22:54):
I feel a part of pop culture.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I just love speaking of which it's throwback pop culture.
But I was searching the other day. Somebody said I
yog Oliver been on Johnny Carson. I went, yeah, like
at least once, maybe twice, and I'm like, and I
know it's out here somewhere. So I start googling it.
And though I did not come up with our performances
on Johnny Carson, I came up with something that I
(23:18):
had no idea was out there, and it was Johnny
before Letterman doing Letterman's opening monologue and making fun of us.
Carson got to it first and he just kind of walked.
So it's a scene where he walks up bump bump up.
Johnny walks out DNA bump bump, and he just looks
out there and he goes and he starts laughing. He goes,
(23:41):
where are the cows fills? What's where? Where the cowsills?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Please?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
He adds up with that. He comes out and it's
his monologue, so it's Johnny goes, well, yeah, I guess
just bring up what what pretty much all of us
have been thinking about lately? Where are the Cowciles? And
the place just breaks up.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And man, he puts his hands in his pockets and
he just stands there laughing.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Let it go. He let it milk with his little.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Side move and his hit like I've said my funny thing,
and now I'm gonna laugh with everybody for a while.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And it was the same letterman thing only and that
I cannot find those performances for the life of me anyway, the.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Letter the letterman thing. Susan's referred to as David always
had a voiceover intro to as they're introducing.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
His his top ten list.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, the top ten we are on twice ye. This
is introduction where it's at. And now, ladies and gentlemen,
the man who thought the music business would never be
the same since the Cosciles retired. David let me yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then the other one was we gave four hundred
million dollars to Iran one time in the seventies, so
the joke on ledders what is Iran going to do
(24:53):
with the four hundred million dollars that we gave them?
And number four was bring the councils out of retirement?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And then there was one more. Well it said lies
awake at night wondering when the castles will come out
of retirement. He kept using it because evidently, yeah, yeah guy,
you know, And too bad we didn't release that record
when he was out there, because guess where we would
have been, sitting right on Letterman stage. Guys, we would
have in wonder no more my man, here we are.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
We're especially going to get to know Paul Schaeffer. So
we would have had it really cool.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You guys, what do you say? We just for giggles,
and you know what, we send Letterman rhythm and we go, hey,
it's us.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
But he's gone.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But he would do a thing. I mean he does
these little special things. He comes on TV. Oh yeah,
he does interviews. He still does things very cool. It'd
be funny, a little special with what kept you anyway.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
He's got a big giant beard now is what I
know about.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh you talk about could play Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Come on, get Bob.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
We'll get Bob Merlis on it.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Hi Bob, Hi Bob.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Oh, that'll get Paul. You cannot get something past anybody.
So listen, what are we now? Here's a possibility. It
looks like it's a possibility that mister Whittaker is having
a little trouble getting to us. Now we as all
y'all know out there in Calcillville. Man, this happens all
the time, and it's go ahead, PAULI. It's half the fun.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
No, no, I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It's half the fun is when these folks when we
just get into this live action stuff, just like we
were like news reporters, and it's going down. Now, they
can't get on. We can't see him, we can't hear him.
Remember the one with Howard Kaylin when when everything was
sideways and he had on his little magic hat. He
just can't.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I think by the end of that interview we were
interviewing his foot or his leg.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
No, No, that was Volman, it was Mark because he
sat and he put his thing up on his office
thing and then it kept slipping and well the next thing,
we're looking at his knee.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
But like the book, but I will say this, we
have never had uh and this I got. I'm with Susan.
I'm feeling there's a technical difficulty going on with Johnny,
which is cool. It happens, but usually they get in
and then we watched it's more than the Tom foolery. Yes,
the technical difficulty. While we're not getting that with Johnny,
(27:27):
We're not. No, we just have to wonder, but we
should go over things. We can still talk about him, you.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Know, well we can and listen and everybody also knows
we'll be back here next week. Lord willin and the
Creek Rising and all that stuff, and Johnny might be
with us. So let's talk about him while.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, because if you guys, you can check it out.
Family affair.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I do have a picture of him. Is Scotty Baldwin,
And I guess he was.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
He had commercials when he was three years old. He
does I read that he doesn't remember not being in
like I can't remember not singing. He doesn't remember not
being in front of a camera.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, I'm gonna try this. Is we Scotty Baldwin everyone,
and it's pre Jody. It's just pre Jody.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But there was little Scott Scott Baldwin from Audrey and
Steve's loins.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Well done, Susan, well done.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
In general hospital, someone's going, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And here's Scotty as an adult and he's been playing
Scotty for many years now.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Wow, I don't have in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But no, here's Johnny. And here's Johnny next, here's Johnny
right now next to his Scott Baldwin that he looks
like Clay Rose. But he looked like Clay when he
was little.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
For real.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but let's talk about all the things man. First
of all, Sigmund and the Sea Monsters. Listen, I'm a kid.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh yeah, he had a Saturday morning show.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He was like hr puffet Yeah, the boys, the Croft
guys they had hr puff they had and they had
Sigmund and Marty yep, spin and Marty. Yeah, and Sigmund
was funny. It was the same nonsense as hr and Lyddsville.
Remember Lydsville with Patrick with our buddy Butchlyddsville. Oh yeah,
(29:18):
Lyddsville is the cucka kooky is Liddsville is the ki
is Lyddsville is the black is Lydsville is our color place.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I know all the themes, and then I get her
up and put it in front of the TV.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yo, guys, my head is so saturated with songs and
jingles from our youth. It's coming out right now. Sigmund
was cool. But I really did enjoy his Tom Sawyer thing.
I mean, that was a great rendition of Tom Sawyer.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I have to ask, yes, okay. So the only thing
that surprises me about that I don't remember seeing that.
I saw his uh TV appearances when he's on Gun
Smoke and Bonanza, I.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Mean walking, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But this business of Tom Sawyer, yeah, the musical if
they said, I mean, how much musical was it?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I can't quite remember that part. Let's let's go out
and I'm going to google a little bit. Hold on
one second, I did Tom Sawyer, Hold on one second,
and now Johnny Whittaker right on google the Tom.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Sawyer and Huck Finn. The one I remember is when
Buddy Epsen was.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Tom Yeah, no, here we go, Here we go, Tom Sawyer.
We're looking seventy three. This is a seventy three one
and no, I don't think anybody else involved in this. Okay, okay,
but look, let me see. This is a musical. It
(30:56):
says watch now, so we're gonna go have a peaky
boo and uh see if we got music coming with this.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Im of the musical. I could be misreading that because
I can't think it is against Tom Sawyer around Tom
Sawyer the musical, it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
It's not a musical, guys, not a music.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
What do you got today?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I can't, But guys, I'm going to bring to you
audio of every Little Boy can be President? Okay, because
that's the thing, all right, So hold on, every.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Bikers hit record boy can be only in America. There's lyrics,
still stolen.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Money with with it. Okay, here we go. This is good.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Went to bed one night and woke up and could
be president.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And here we always have to have a little commercial
because it's YouTube. Hold on, thanks to YouTube, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I hope we can hear it. Got it?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Tell me if you can hear it.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I can't hear a thing. Hold on, hey, zoom, what
is it with music?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And you?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Let's get what the program plays? No, listen, no nothing,
I know?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Are you hearing it loud and clear.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Really, do you think it might be a built in copyright? Yes, Oh,
there's a little not enough. Couldn't hear I heard his
little voice.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Listen, No, nothing, he's going. He's singing this, He's going.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Every little boy can be Washington, George Washington for the
United States, United States of America, America, Land of the Free.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's so cute.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
What number in billboard did that reach?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Let's find out on the billboard charts? Where did every
Little Boy can Be President? Johnny winaker Land.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
It's a good question, Susan.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Here we go, Every little boy can be President right here, Jody,
all right.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
We'll move on. All right, let's continue down the spring
if you find that break to it. So Flower Cruise,
We're there, Flower Power Cruise, We're there. We're gonna go there.
I don't even know where it's going this time. I
never you know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
My favorite thing about that cruise is I feel like
I'll go. I get ready for that like I'm getting
ready for vacation, not like I'm going to work.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The last thing is, don't don't forget the guitar, because
I have gone to get white clothes and hats and
new swimsuits and my nails done and new hair and
oh my goodness, and that's going on.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
What the difference? And I starting may start thinking, oh
my god, I've got to get on that ship and
then I've got to get off it. And it's like,
that's the whole thing about cruises to me is getting
on the big ship and then disembarkment. That day is
a horrible day to me. Although I figured it out.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So well, yeah, we've got that.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Okay, now about that, I know where to go now,
which is not home anyway. So we've got the Flower
Power Cruise and jee there's a date just before that.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
We said, yes, it says it does not appear to
have charted. Okay, I found it. It does not appear
to have ever charted in Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
All right, Can I let everyone know the context have
never charted on Billboard? They do?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Please?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Do they do quote the top two hundred. I mean
they will quote, Oh, it reached one hundred and seventy
eight on Billboard, so they still quote that. So it
never even got the top two hundred.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
But the hot, the hot one hundred is where it
all starts, where you bubble under frankly.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
And my next question to Johnny is did you ever
play it live and talk about that?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I feel like he did. I feel like I'm a Johnny.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Way your fans, So do you do it concert?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I feel like I see him on some TV show,
maybe some Fourth of July moment. I think I feel
like he's got a hat on, a little Uncle Sam hat,
and he's really going at it.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Interesting, yes, but look, look clearly, and we don't even
need to investigate. Clearly, mister Whittaker came into some trouble,
so we won't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
And he can't even email, so we're not getting communication.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
It's cool, Yeah, it's all right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We look, we had a nice we had a nice
getting together always.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Ye. We do have the advature coming up folks next summer.
Just so I've been asked that are you happy together?
Are you?
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
God? Yeah, it's almost October now.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And we're going to find out who's on.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And that's the fun, you guys. August was with gossip
and wonder about who's coming next summer. Of course, every
August right.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Here, this is a big one.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
This is a big Why is it different.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Susan, Well, it's different because we're without our bosses and
this is going to what I'm calling it's the legacy
run because we are now going to be representing our bosses,
the Turtles, their project that they put together and bringing
it back out there and making it as successful as
it has been. That'll be proven by us, but we
(36:21):
are all committed to it, and it was talked about
long before we lost Bossy, and it was talked about
when Howard parked himself. They've always known there was going
to be a so it's mysterious. But here's the fun thing, guys.
So we're on the road and every year at the
end of the tour, everybody wonders who's coming back, and
our bosses will not tell anybody anything to October because
(36:43):
if you tell people they're not coming back in the
middle of a tour, that back half of the tour's
performance is lack a little lustuff. So you wait and
you tell them later, so they could be sad at
home or it'll be at home. So what we said
is it's October, and so the letters will start going
out and we'll start figuring out who's out here with us.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And also following up with what you said Susan, Yes,
we know we're coming back, okay, but you don't act it,
and you don't and you actually don't assume it.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Because really anything could change us.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
We're coming back. Anything can happen. But Susan's right. They
have made a brand and we all know the songs.
It's the music of the Turtle set that is the
most important thing about the show that night, and that
is going to continue. So the music continues, and then
it's an honor of then it's.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Look, it's CIRCD a Turtle and it always has been,
and so the circ will continue under the Turtle's beautiful
flagship that they so amazingly created. It was a beautiful plan,
nicely done, gentlemen executed well.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
We were interesting.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
We were allowed to approach the term manager with questions
about who's I went back in terms of categories. It's
a lot of fun. One time I said English or American?
Yeah no, and he said a little of both. Now
that's a clue. Sixties, I said, sixties and seventies. I said, well, one,
(38:18):
they're considering branches into the seventies, which is a loud
Chuck Nekron does that, three Dark Night. We're total seventies.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Correct has always done it.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
The castles are seventies. We have two albums in the
seventies and on my side, so we're seventies hartist also,
so we didn't get much there. Male female, it's male. Okay, fine, Susan,
your reign continues.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I love it, man, that's my legacy.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
And I think prior to you, I do believe it
was only Spanky. Spanky was the only other girl in
the happiness, and I am.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Proud to share that with her. No, you're correct, okay,
if it even happened.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yes, Spanky were there in the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Well, we can ask Nor when we see him next.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
And I saw a t shirt from eighty five for
the Or with four groups on it, and one of
them was Gary. I saw that Gary's been with them
since eighty five, on and off. It's amazing to longevity
ofcause when we came on eleven years ago, we learned
quickly that all of these people know each other, and
all of these people had been playing together for decades
(39:25):
while we were not doing that. So that's the one
thing we found out. We were the last ones to
the game. Okay, No, they always were. The Circle were
the last ones of the game. But we were second
to the last because I saw the circle come on
once and saw what was going on, and I recognize
(39:45):
their reaction. Mine was the same thing, Well what we
have here, Well can we get in up? This has
been going on all this time.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Man, it is something when you discovered, yeah, that this
could be something you could be a ward of.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I remember, in a busy time of my life, somebody
coming up to me and in conversation and saying and
then you know, yeah, I'm gonna go you know that
happy together to it, and I said yes, like just
because I figured i'd better say I didn't know what
he was talking about years ago, oh wow, yeah, yeah wow.
And I did not know what he was talking about,
(40:20):
but it was a conversation, but that wasn't the subject matter,
so I just let it go. But I never forgot it.
And I said, wow, wait a minute, this is the
happiest cathic.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
To its.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Later.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Every decade it's getting bigger and bigger until it reaches us,
you know, to reach us, it had to get real big.
And that's okay, it certainly is Jack.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Okay, all right, gentlemen, we're out of here, back to
the beach.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Johnny, don't feel bad if you see this episode. We're
going to get you next week. But boy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, well yeah, you can't escape us. Johnny Whittaker.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Great, everyone, have a great week.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Have a great week, everybody. I love you, guys.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So remember the words of Johnny Whittaker. We all can
be president.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Every little boy can be president.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Good good night, y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Love love, okay, everybody. We hope you enjoyed visiting with
us today.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
We definitely had a blast visiting with you.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
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Speaker 2 (41:35):
Is available to download on demand.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
So please subscribe and give us a rating thumbs up.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
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Speaker 2 (41:46):
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Speaker 5 (41:48):
See you in concert.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And on the road.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Until then, let's stay.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
In touch by tuning in each week for another episode
of the Coucles podcast. You like
Speaker 4 (42:06):
MHM
I saw them sitting in the range.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, you're the councils.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm Paul, I'm Bob, and I'm Susan cowcill And welcome, Welcome,
one and all to.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The Calcil Podcast, where.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We have fun, fun, fun even when we're being serious.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Every single week with our music stories and weekly special
guests from all walks of life.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All of us can use a break sometimes take a breezer.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Right right right, Well, if that's true for you, then
you have a arrived at the right place at the
right time.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
So we want you to sit.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Back, bringing back and escape with.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Us and to our world of harmony, laughter and tom
foolery too.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
So let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Here's today's episode of the Castle Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh yeah, we's all sitting in the rain.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
We are you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I don't know about being on time. Oh guys, guess
where I am?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Where you am?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I am in Pensacola, Florida.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I can tell because of your blurred background.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I have blurred background. I'm in a beach hotel at
beach hair and we're at the beach. Russ had gigs
and I was his roady and I escaped the insanity
at home for two days and We're very excited.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
What it's like. The first place of cola, Coca cola.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, it was the first place of pences, Pences, and
I haven't figured out what a pence is yet, but
once I do.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Good.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
So anyway, here autumn it is crazy crazy. I don't
mean to bring up topics, but if you're a baseball fan,
it is absolutely bonker wild. Okay, the playoffs are here.
We're loving it. We love the one hundred mile per
hour fastballs, we love all the miss calls and strikes
(01:55):
by the umpires. Now, it's all been a lot of
fun for it.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So of my least favorite aspects of most ball games.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Myself, I will admit that yesterday, the first day of
the playoffs, I actually did sit and watched for baseball games.
I've never done that. I know it's crazy, but Yankees
and who's not going to watch Yankees? And Red Sox?
Who's not going to watch the Dodgers? Then you got
a good point you what to say about that? But anyway,
(02:27):
I do.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's nice to have edge.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, we got good. Did you know we have a guest?
But did you know Johnny Whittaker played Santa Claus? I
think you might be the first guy I've met, what
personally I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Meet who played Santa, who played.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Santa Claus in a movie called A Husband for Christmas.
It's just a little factoring on you. I bet Whittaker
is our guest. We do have this, may I speak.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I would like to say that he was the first
Scottie Baldwin on General Hospital. I found this out in
our deep dive. Scotty Baldwin is we all know General
Hospital people is one of our main players. This young
man was the first Scottie Baldwin, probably in the early sixties.
We'll find out.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And of course Jody on Family Affair with Buffy and
Jody mister French.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Loved that show.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I watched it.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I wore Buffy wear. She had a clothes, a line
of clothing going on around that time.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I think I wore a Jody had about I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Think Joby had Jody ware, but we'll find that out too.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did they have merds back then? I don't know if
they had merds back then, but this was an important show.
Yet another family, even though they were three orphan kids
moving in with a rich uncle. That sounded good to
a lot of us.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah that sounded great to.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, yet another family that we wanted to kind of
be a.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man, like what happened to the parents. Oh that's terrible,
but they moved it with Uncle Beal.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, a rich, rich uncle with a butler who said yes.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
To everything, but only after he smashed his face for
a while thinking it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, I don't really.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
I didn't watch that so much.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
I didn't watch you you were too old.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
No, no, no, no, no, we watched it. We watched it,
but you saw I didn't watch it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I don't mean it was on in the house boys
like it was on.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
It was on, It was on.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
I just it wasn't anything that we were, like you said,
we were going into other interests. Yeah, but I do
remember it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I can still sing the song if you'd like me to.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I do not know the song, but.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I do know that, and it would start off and
it would go.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Family.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
You cannot You just told us you checked out. You
can't be surprised you don't know the theme song.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No, I know, I'm not surprised, but we just want to.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Can I tell you what we really all want to know?
Why do you know family affairs?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I know that melody. Yeah you did. It was a
big Brian's funny big ends like.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
This it goes. But but I'm bum.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Bum oh, I know that I recognize that.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's the end of Family Affair.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Dude, I need to give you context, okay about that
show and maybe Paul too, I don't know. Okay, Big
Brian Keith fan listen, Brian Keith was the star of
Family Affair, not Jody and Buffy. Okay, we're gonna inherit
the kids, Sebastian Cabot. Big Brian was huge, big star.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
The older people are all over this is their show.
Oh look how they have three our friends nephews, nieces
and nephews.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So I'm just letting you know. The appeal was not
the kids. For older people. It was and so other people.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Who knew Brian outside of this show, not me. I
didn't know who the guy was. But so you're like,
what's this actor guy doing.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
On this TV show?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Copy understood because he was in cool combat type movies
or war movies or.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Just one of those guys man.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Yeah he is.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah, it is one of those cats.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Was it not cool? Seeing Johnny Whittaker's pictures from all
the five Disney movies, that beautiful technicolor in those Yes,
it was odd.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Man, Mark Twain, the Tom Sawyer Poets is great.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was still so cool, you know, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It looked like a beautiful life, you know, I mean
he did all that kid worked a lot, he was
on easy everything.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I wanted.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Where do you go to school?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's what I want to know. I want to know
before like because look, but he was Scotty Baldwins the
General Hospital came on. I mean seen sixty four he right,
So thet's so Audrey. I mean, I know where Scotty
came from. So from that's from Audrey and Steve. They
had megat Scotty and Scottie is.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But to prepare for this, you're really like all the
child actors and actresses back then. He's way more than
that TV show. Okay, so you want to google and
do some research. You won't believe what this man. Yeah,
and lived.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
And he's had a big life.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I think he became a successful He had his own detours,
which of us didn't back then, and he had his
But he's a success man. He's like a din and
Star to me.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I wonder if I wonder if he's got the camaraderie
with the other kids, like most of these folks do,
these TV kids, they all know each other, they all
hang out.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I think that the little girl passed away.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
She did Anessa Jones. I got to tell you. She's
my age and like literally was living in the canyon
I was living in at the time. I was living
in the canyon. We were both to be too young
to be living in that. That's all I want to
say about that. And I made it out. She did not.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I didn't know her way the way it went his way. Yeah,
really different paths. He was sixteen when she died at eighteen,
So this is gonna really righteck this guy.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, because that was his cyst. I mean that was
and she you know, she went down that path. That's
how she died. So he's got a story to tell us.
So we look forward to that and he'll be here soon, right, guys.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Five minutes he's going to pop in. So exciting. We
got a good report today. We will be at the
Golden Nugget in Las Vegas, January thirtieth, that residency as
they call it, well they did, but you guys, you
know what a residency is now you see. Oh, here's
(08:49):
their new residency in Vegas. And whoever they're talking about
has a couple of weekends in a row and that's
us and they have it every year. So that's their
new residency, you know, and that's us. Yeah, you got
you know, seven months at the Caesar Palace Auditorium there
for a rig there for two years. By the way,
we do want to let everyone know that our brother
(09:11):
John and Vicki John Colson and Vicki Peterson's duo will
be at the Coach House in San Juan Cappasuino Saturday
opening for.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Wayne Wayne new Are you going?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
No, I can't go. I've assigned We have talked to
John about this and we have assigned him the responsibility
of securing Wayne Newton as a podcast guest, and he
said that he's going to try and do that.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, great, Then when we get him on our podcast,
we open for him and he can call me Shoeshy again. Show.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I tell you, we just love the way that guy talked.
We love the way he treated our mom. Ready to
rate he treated us.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
He was so sweet. You got to preciure his family
over real, Shoeshy over there.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Pressures, pressuous people, missus Council, and then we did that.
I remember we did that crap music called they found
a Wayne Newton, a mini Wayne Newton, which I viewed
Brian Bryan Browning was that his.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Name brown Bryan Browning, Bryant.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Browning Bryant was a guest with us. And this kid
was an absolute mini Wayne Newton. He just was. He
totally was sang great. He was fourteen.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I think I don't want dude, but may I tell
you something about Browning. Bryant went on to be a
super legit recording artist, came to New Orleans, Louisiana, recorded
with Alan Twusant, and has an incredible solo album of
some amazing music from New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, wow, let's get him on.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
He passed away.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
We can't get him on.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
We can't, we can't. And I and his family. I
was in touch with his family a little bit because
I'd found him on Facebook and it was right when
he had passed, and they were tickled because apparently he
loved his time with us, because kids with kids on
shows is so much fun. Browning Brian update, But please, people,
podcast people go find this guy's record. It's really good
Browning Bryant, really really good.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's you know, they go on to have careers even
though they're not super super famous, and that's sure front
of everyone's.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh and like and the album cover has got long
hippie hair. You guys, would it would trip you out?
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Because well that would be fun?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, well you know to that point, and this was
what I was trying to remember.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
To that point.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Uh, you know, the people that go on the Voice
and the American Idol and all those things, even like
the second, third, fourth place, people like make a record.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know they've already you know, all the.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Way down trying to no losers.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You had to no losers.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You're probably, in my opinion, not knowing too much, so
I shouldn't say too much. You probably get a better
deal than if you want, because they run you man.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Man, look look, Paul, remember a little a Lexi, our
Alexi was on the Voice and and there it's a thing.
You know, you go in there and you present yourself
and they go, okay, here's your choices. You can sing
this song, this song, this song, or is this song.
We'll want you to wear this, this, this, this, and this.
We're gonna put your hair up like this, and next
(12:14):
thing you know, Alexis was out there in her hair
in kind of a forties scoop and she was singing
Landslide or something, and it was just not right for
lex Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I wonder if she had the feeling or her people
with her parents may have the feeling like I don't
know about this, but you oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
For sure, for sure, because you know they're trying to
create you.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
And what's interesting?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I was just going to say, what's interesting. I hope
I'm not. I hope I'm on the same subject. It
might not be.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
But you know, Johnny Whitaker, did he do a record.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh yes, Oh yes, he had a song. He had
a song Every Little Boy Can Be President. It was
a it was a fourth of July hit, I think,
and we're gonna talk to I know it well. I
sang a little bit of it on.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Our last Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I gotta plug in you guys. Oh hi, I just
cussed on.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I never did hear about that. Usually that would be
in the literature.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I wonder, how Yeah, that's why I was wondering.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And I can sing it. I gotta get plugged in
or I won't be seeing Johnny Whittaker or you guys
or anybody.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
I wonder if it hit the charts like all of
them seem to have done.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That's why I was curious, you know, because he's friends
with Paul Peterson. Yeah, and you know, and all these
young stars did that.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Hold on, I gotta find guys. This is live, This
is Live TV.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
While she's looking for electricity, now's he looks actually standing
on a planet. Uh. Remember Cocaine Grain album that's out.
It came out the nineteenth. Look for it. We'll have
it with us on the shows we're at. We'll have
it on the merch table and again it all.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
The young kids are loving it.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Hey, that was Uh we got a little report from
the front line of young kids and it was a
good report. So it was, oh, we all take notes.
You know what's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I am here right now, I'm looking.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I don't hear much about Kathy Garber. Oh Sissy, Yeah,
And I want to ask Johnny about her when he
comes on. I know he got tight with Anissa and
Anissa and uh, they're gonna they're gonna get each other
through the whole thing. But what was what was Kathy's role?
You got she was the big sister. No, no, no, no,
(14:31):
I know that was she there for him?
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Also?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Did they just kind of coagulate as a duo during
those years and she had her own issues, you know,
and and working with Keith, Brian, Keith and Sebastian how
were they you know.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
About So I'd want to hear about family affair myself.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah, because you know it's interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yes, and so the so the title song was not it's.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
A family, a f family. That was a thing, a family,
our family. I think may Mabel is that Mabel? Is
that her name? Staple? I think there's one in Chicago
alive of the Staple family.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Are you read your text?
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And the Dons I think was part of the Staple singers.
That's family.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
But you know what Johnny Whittaker I like saying this
was an actor, a filmmaker, an educator, an acting teacher,
which is an interesting transformation I'm going to ask him about. Yeah,
an activist, activist. Definitely. You got to hear about this
(15:48):
movie we we don't, we can't tell. It's a little
confusing a movie called Sky Blue Sky with any because
there's also a I think a wrestler named Sky Blue. Well,
I think you're somebody.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
There's also another movie out called sky Blue, but it's
s k y b l u E.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
And this is s k y e b l e U.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Okay, all right, good, all right, And.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
When you put that lettering in, then you come up
with Johnny Whitaker's movie. I like it.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I like it. I like it. Yeah, okay, so we
do have our trio swing that we can I got
to check emails when someone's not in, you know, yeah,
let me just make sure everything's okay. Trio Swing October thirtieth,
Port Washington Library, be there or be triangular, I say square,
(16:41):
Port Washington Library. Then the from there we go to
Halloween Night on Times Square in New York City at
the Iridium.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Super exciting.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Yeah, and then the night of November two, Avenel Performing
Arts Center in Avenel, New Jersey with the Tree. So okay, yes,
you guys should check this out. Follow us around. Man,
we're gonna make.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Up.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We are not opening for anybody, Okay. Now ever again,
look and look we can think out of the box.
I mean, if we want an opening act, let's send
Susan out and do three songs.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Oh yeah, if.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
We want an opening act. We could have Paul go
out and juggle, okay, or do a piece from Shakespeare here.
We want an opening act.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
You Paul juggles, you do songs. I do a pup set,
then we do the shows.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, he's never juggled another act.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I didn't say I want to, you know, I wonder
if there's another act on the Avenuel.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
There is nothing that I am aware of, all right,
but he has said there's another act on our shows.
And by the way, we just want you to know.
February twentieth, we're at the odium and uh, we're island
there man a bob Uh. It's Friday, February twentieth. Then
(18:05):
the twenty first, we're at the cutting room in New York.
And at the twenty second we have now rebooked the
Riverhead Trio show and it's that Sunday at the end
of that weekend. So you people out there in the Riverhead,
come on out. We'll be there. I don't come.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Came on, came on, okay, running my new studio, killing me,
you killing I'm almost there, guys.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
The day of the.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Office, it's going here, it's going there. I can't watch, okay.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I had to plug in.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Okay, that's okay, I don't mind. It's a beautiful thing.
But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Hey, so you know, I'm getting hardwood floors put in,
getting some hardwood floors put in. Wonder, and so I
decided that I needed to paint the house, you know,
before the hardware come in.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
And I really do need to paint.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
This is when Lucy it's a new couch.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, I've got a little bit of trim left and
it looks really cool. And I wanted to mention it
because our main color is called Irish cream.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Oh I love it. You've got Irish cream on your.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Love? But is it a creamy color?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It's nice?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
We love it, love it.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
But yeah, I've been painting. I've been painting for three days.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh wow, look at when I think of you, you're painting.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yes, you know, he's just beautiful.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I wonder if he wants three days painting job. I
got someone yeah, yeah, no no, But anyways, I've been
loving it. We are on the flower Power cruise again.
We are at Hobbit and Grace.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Again for we love the flower Power.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
More about that, we're waiting for excitingly in an excited
state waiting for Johnny Whitaker.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Do we talk about ponies?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Oh, let's talk about ponies. Okay, since I always loved horses,
so to me, I don't know, there's something about this
particular offer. But here's what happened, folks.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Are there real ponies involved?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
The pony stands for some acronym of oh the ia
or look, here's the deal guys. Next year, Peacock's coming
out with a show called Ponies p O N I E. S.
And it's kind of a premise of nineteen seventy seven Moscow,
Cold War CIA, this and that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Mission Impossible.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Okay, sounds exciting. We love that kind of stuff. Yeah,
and then they have reached out and we have ocated
to use the song two by two in their show Coller.
It was cool and they even send a us a synopsis,
which is why you're hearing about Moscow. And not only that,
(20:58):
but they told us what scene it's going to be
used in. Yeah, and one minute and twenty seven seconds
will be used of two by two in the scene
the song too, So we're excited about that. We know
it's behind dialogue, it's going to be behind maybe action,
but it's going to have the message or whatever. Two
by two, go open up the game.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Probably some people get killed, blown up to trust me,
trust me, it's going to be violent. I can't catch
a break. One of us was in some Chucky movie,
Paul and I. I mean, we'd rather die than.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Have either of you and I haven't. I'll admit it.
Have you any of you watched the scene in Chucky
where he's killing the uber driver with.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
The oh, I can't.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I have not either. I mean I had. There was
a kind of a cute scene when in that other show,
episode six of whatever show that was where the guys
shooting the guy in the swimming pool while we're in
the parks one with a dog, and remember that it's
still there.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, you know, I guess it's it's you know, the
irony of having the cosciles happily singing along all some
horrific things going on is just in right now under
the episode.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I pulled up the Chucky episode, the announcement of it
and the songs in there and down below, and you know,
it's so funny with people. Kudos to the councils for
allowing their song to be used. They thought it was
very artsy.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Oh yeah, well, we we pick and choose these.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But Susan, as you know, a lot of songs are
really play a sad song with a beautiful or or
a harsh song with a beautiful mellod you know this
is a movie version of that. I think and kind
of accept it as okay, art got it. And then
I always think when when anything's used the bars today,
(22:54):
I feel a part of pop culture.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I just love speaking of which it's throwback pop culture.
But I was searching the other day. Somebody said I
yog Oliver been on Johnny Carson. I went, yeah, like
at least once, maybe twice, and I'm like, and I
know it's out here somewhere. So I start googling it.
And though I did not come up with our performances
on Johnny Carson, I came up with something that I
(23:18):
had no idea was out there, and it was Johnny
before Letterman doing Letterman's opening monologue and making fun of us.
Carson got to it first and he just kind of walked.
So it's a scene where he walks up bump bump up.
Johnny walks out DNA bump bump, and he just looks
out there and he goes and he starts laughing. He goes,
(23:41):
where are the cows fills? What's where? Where the cowsills?
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Please?
Speaker 4 (23:49):
He adds up with that. He comes out and it's
his monologue, so it's Johnny goes, well, yeah, I guess
just bring up what what pretty much all of us
have been thinking about lately? Where are the Cowciles? And
the place just breaks up.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And man, he puts his hands in his pockets and
he just stands there laughing.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Let it go. He let it milk with his little.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Side move and his hit like I've said my funny thing,
and now I'm gonna laugh with everybody for a while.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And it was the same letterman thing only and that
I cannot find those performances for the life of me anyway, the.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Letter the letterman thing. Susan's referred to as David always
had a voiceover intro to as they're introducing.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
His his top ten list.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Well, the top ten we are on twice ye. This
is introduction where it's at. And now, ladies and gentlemen,
the man who thought the music business would never be
the same since the Cosciles retired. David let me yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then the other one was we gave four hundred
million dollars to Iran one time in the seventies, so
the joke on ledders what is Iran going to do
(24:53):
with the four hundred million dollars that we gave them?
And number four was bring the councils out of retirement?
Speaker 1 (25:01):
And then there was one more. Well it said lies
awake at night wondering when the castles will come out
of retirement. He kept using it because evidently, yeah, yeah guy,
you know, And too bad we didn't release that record
when he was out there, because guess where we would
have been, sitting right on Letterman stage. Guys, we would
have in wonder no more my man, here we are.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
We're especially going to get to know Paul Schaeffer. So
we would have had it really cool.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
You guys, what do you say? We just for giggles,
and you know what, we send Letterman rhythm and we go, hey,
it's us.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
But he's gone.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
But he would do a thing. I mean he does
these little special things. He comes on TV. Oh yeah,
he does interviews. He still does things very cool. It'd
be funny, a little special with what kept you anyway.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
He's got a big giant beard now is what I
know about.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Oh you talk about could play Santa Claus.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Come on, get Bob.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
We'll get Bob Merlis on it.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Hi Bob, Hi Bob.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Oh, that'll get Paul. You cannot get something past anybody.
So listen, what are we now? Here's a possibility. It
looks like it's a possibility that mister Whittaker is having
a little trouble getting to us. Now we as all
y'all know out there in Calcillville. Man, this happens all
the time, and it's go ahead, PAULI. It's half the fun.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
No, no, I'm listening.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It's half the fun is when these folks when we
just get into this live action stuff, just like we
were like news reporters, and it's going down. Now, they
can't get on. We can't see him, we can't hear him.
Remember the one with Howard Kaylin when when everything was
sideways and he had on his little magic hat. He
just can't.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
I think by the end of that interview we were
interviewing his foot or his leg.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
No, No, that was Volman, it was Mark because he
sat and he put his thing up on his office
thing and then it kept slipping and well the next thing,
we're looking at his knee.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
But like the book, but I will say this, we
have never had uh and this I got. I'm with Susan.
I'm feeling there's a technical difficulty going on with Johnny,
which is cool. It happens, but usually they get in
and then we watched it's more than the Tom foolery. Yes,
the technical difficulty. While we're not getting that with Johnny,
(27:27):
We're not. No, we just have to wonder, but we
should go over things. We can still talk about him, you.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Know, well we can and listen and everybody also knows
we'll be back here next week. Lord willin and the
Creek Rising and all that stuff, and Johnny might be
with us. So let's talk about him while.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah, because if you guys, you can check it out.
Family affair.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I do have a picture of him. Is Scotty Baldwin,
And I guess he was.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
He had commercials when he was three years old. He
does I read that he doesn't remember not being in
like I can't remember not singing. He doesn't remember not
being in front of a camera.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, I'm gonna try this. Is we Scotty Baldwin everyone,
and it's pre Jody. It's just pre Jody.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But there was little Scott Scott Baldwin from Audrey and
Steve's loins.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Well done, Susan, well done.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
In general hospital, someone's going, oh.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And here's Scotty as an adult and he's been playing
Scotty for many years now.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Wow, I don't have in the hospital.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But no, here's Johnny. And here's Johnny next, here's Johnny
right now next to his Scott Baldwin that he looks
like Clay Rose. But he looked like Clay when he
was little.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
For real.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Yeah, but let's talk about all the things man. First
of all, Sigmund and the Sea Monsters. Listen, I'm a kid.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh yeah, he had a Saturday morning show.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
He was like hr puffet Yeah, the boys, the Croft
guys they had hr puff they had and they had
Sigmund and Marty yep, spin and Marty. Yeah, and Sigmund
was funny. It was the same nonsense as hr and Lyddsville.
Remember Lydsville with Patrick with our buddy Butchlyddsville. Oh yeah,
(29:18):
Lyddsville is the cucka kooky is Liddsville is the ki
is Lyddsville is the black is Lydsville is our color place.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
I know all the themes, and then I get her
up and put it in front of the TV.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yo, guys, my head is so saturated with songs and
jingles from our youth. It's coming out right now. Sigmund
was cool. But I really did enjoy his Tom Sawyer thing.
I mean, that was a great rendition of Tom Sawyer.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I have to ask, yes, okay. So the only thing
that surprises me about that I don't remember seeing that.
I saw his uh TV appearances when he's on Gun
Smoke and Bonanza, I.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Mean walking, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But this business of Tom Sawyer, yeah, the musical if
they said, I mean, how much musical was it?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I can't quite remember that part. Let's let's go out
and I'm going to google a little bit. Hold on
one second, I did Tom Sawyer, Hold on one second,
and now Johnny Whittaker right on google the Tom.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Sawyer and Huck Finn. The one I remember is when
Buddy Epsen was.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Tom Yeah, no, here we go, Here we go, Tom Sawyer.
We're looking seventy three. This is a seventy three one
and no, I don't think anybody else involved in this. Okay, okay,
but look, let me see. This is a musical. It
(30:56):
says watch now, so we're gonna go have a peaky
boo and uh see if we got music coming with this.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Im of the musical. I could be misreading that because
I can't think it is against Tom Sawyer around Tom
Sawyer the musical, it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
It's not a musical, guys, not a music.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
What do you got today?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I can't, But guys, I'm going to bring to you
audio of every Little Boy can be President? Okay, because
that's the thing, all right, So hold on, every.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Bikers hit record boy can be only in America. There's lyrics,
still stolen.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Money with with it. Okay, here we go. This is good.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Went to bed one night and woke up and could
be president.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And here we always have to have a little commercial
because it's YouTube. Hold on, thanks to YouTube, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I hope we can hear it. Got it?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Tell me if you can hear it.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I can't hear a thing. Hold on, hey, zoom, what
is it with music?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And you?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Let's get what the program plays? No, listen, no nothing,
I know?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Are you hearing it loud and clear.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Really, do you think it might be a built in copyright? Yes, Oh,
there's a little not enough. Couldn't hear I heard his
little voice.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Listen, No, nothing, he's going. He's singing this, He's going.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Every little boy can be Washington, George Washington for the
United States, United States of America, America, Land of the Free.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's so cute.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
What number in billboard did that reach?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Let's find out on the billboard charts? Where did every
Little Boy can Be President? Johnny winaker Land.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
It's a good question, Susan.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Here we go, Every little boy can be President right here, Jody,
all right.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
We'll move on. All right, let's continue down the spring
if you find that break to it. So Flower Cruise,
We're there, Flower Power Cruise, We're there. We're gonna go there.
I don't even know where it's going this time. I
never you know.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
My favorite thing about that cruise is I feel like
I'll go. I get ready for that like I'm getting
ready for vacation, not like I'm going to work.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
The last thing is, don't don't forget the guitar, because
I have gone to get white clothes and hats and
new swimsuits and my nails done and new hair and
oh my goodness, and that's going on.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
What the difference? And I starting may start thinking, oh
my god, I've got to get on that ship and
then I've got to get off it. And it's like,
that's the whole thing about cruises to me is getting
on the big ship and then disembarkment. That day is
a horrible day to me. Although I figured it out.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So well, yeah, we've got that.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Okay, now about that, I know where to go now,
which is not home anyway. So we've got the Flower
Power Cruise and jee there's a date just before that.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
We said, yes, it says it does not appear to
have charted. Okay, I found it. It does not appear
to have ever charted in Billboard Hot one hundred.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
All right, Can I let everyone know the context have
never charted on Billboard? They do?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Please?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Do they do quote the top two hundred. I mean
they will quote, Oh, it reached one hundred and seventy
eight on Billboard, so they still quote that. So it
never even got the top two hundred.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
But the hot, the hot one hundred is where it
all starts, where you bubble under frankly.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
And my next question to Johnny is did you ever
play it live and talk about that?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
I feel like he did. I feel like I'm a Johnny.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Way your fans, So do you do it concert?
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I feel like I see him on some TV show,
maybe some Fourth of July moment. I think I feel
like he's got a hat on, a little Uncle Sam hat,
and he's really going at it.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Interesting, yes, but look, look clearly, and we don't even
need to investigate. Clearly, mister Whittaker came into some trouble,
so we won't worry about it.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
And he can't even email, so we're not getting communication.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
It's cool, Yeah, it's all right.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
We look, we had a nice we had a nice
getting together always.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Ye. We do have the advature coming up folks next summer.
Just so I've been asked that are you happy together?
Are you?
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
God? Yeah, it's almost October now.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And we're going to find out who's on.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And that's the fun, you guys. August was with gossip
and wonder about who's coming next summer. Of course, every
August right.
Speaker 5 (35:56):
Here, this is a big one.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
This is a big Why is it different.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Susan, Well, it's different because we're without our bosses and
this is going to what I'm calling it's the legacy
run because we are now going to be representing our bosses,
the Turtles, their project that they put together and bringing
it back out there and making it as successful as
it has been. That'll be proven by us, but we
(36:21):
are all committed to it, and it was talked about
long before we lost Bossy, and it was talked about
when Howard parked himself. They've always known there was going
to be a so it's mysterious. But here's the fun thing, guys.
So we're on the road and every year at the
end of the tour, everybody wonders who's coming back, and
our bosses will not tell anybody anything to October because
(36:43):
if you tell people they're not coming back in the
middle of a tour, that back half of the tour's
performance is lack a little lustuff. So you wait and
you tell them later, so they could be sad at
home or it'll be at home. So what we said
is it's October, and so the letters will start going
out and we'll start figuring out who's out here with us.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And also following up with what you said Susan, Yes,
we know we're coming back, okay, but you don't act it,
and you don't and you actually don't assume it.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Because really anything could change us.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
We're coming back. Anything can happen. But Susan's right. They
have made a brand and we all know the songs.
It's the music of the Turtle set that is the
most important thing about the show that night, and that
is going to continue. So the music continues, and then
it's an honor of then it's.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Look, it's CIRCD a Turtle and it always has been,
and so the circ will continue under the Turtle's beautiful
flagship that they so amazingly created. It was a beautiful plan,
nicely done, gentlemen executed well.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
We were interesting.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
We were allowed to approach the term manager with questions
about who's I went back in terms of categories. It's
a lot of fun. One time I said English or American?
Yeah no, and he said a little of both. Now
that's a clue. Sixties, I said, sixties and seventies. I said, well, one,
(38:18):
they're considering branches into the seventies, which is a loud
Chuck Nekron does that, three Dark Night. We're total seventies.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Correct has always done it.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
The castles are seventies. We have two albums in the
seventies and on my side, so we're seventies hartist also,
so we didn't get much there. Male female, it's male. Okay, fine, Susan,
your reign continues.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I love it, man, that's my legacy.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
And I think prior to you, I do believe it
was only Spanky. Spanky was the only other girl in
the happiness, and I am.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Proud to share that with her. No, you're correct, okay,
if it even happened.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yes, Spanky were there in the very beginning.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Well, we can ask Nor when we see him next.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
And I saw a t shirt from eighty five for
the Or with four groups on it, and one of
them was Gary. I saw that Gary's been with them
since eighty five, on and off. It's amazing to longevity
ofcause when we came on eleven years ago, we learned
quickly that all of these people know each other, and
all of these people had been playing together for decades
(39:25):
while we were not doing that. So that's the one
thing we found out. We were the last ones to
the game. Okay, No, they always were. The Circle were
the last ones of the game. But we were second
to the last because I saw the circle come on
once and saw what was going on, and I recognize
(39:45):
their reaction. Mine was the same thing, Well what we
have here, Well can we get in up? This has
been going on all this time.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Man, it is something when you discovered, yeah, that this
could be something you could be a ward of.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I remember, in a busy time of my life, somebody
coming up to me and in conversation and saying and
then you know, yeah, I'm gonna go you know that
happy together to it, and I said yes, like just
because I figured i'd better say I didn't know what
he was talking about years ago, oh wow, yeah, yeah wow.
And I did not know what he was talking about,
(40:20):
but it was a conversation, but that wasn't the subject matter,
so I just let it go. But I never forgot it.
And I said, wow, wait a minute, this is the
happiest cathic.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
To its.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Later.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
You sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Every decade it's getting bigger and bigger until it reaches us,
you know, to reach us, it had to get real big.
And that's okay, it certainly is Jack.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Okay, all right, gentlemen, we're out of here, back to
the beach.
Speaker 4 (40:56):
Johnny, don't feel bad if you see this episode. We're
going to get you next week. But boy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yeah, well yeah, you can't escape us. Johnny Whittaker.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Great, everyone, have a great week.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Have a great week, everybody. I love you, guys.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
So remember the words of Johnny Whittaker. We all can
be president.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Every little boy can be president.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Good good night, y'all.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Love love, okay, everybody. We hope you enjoyed visiting with
us today.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
We definitely had a blast visiting with you.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Each episode of the Cowles podcast.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Is available to download on demand.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
So please subscribe and give us a rating thumbs up.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
You can also follow the Coutles on Facebook at at coucil.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Dot com, and of course we will.
Speaker 5 (41:48):
See you in concert.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
And on the road.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Until then, let's stay.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
In touch by tuning in each week for another episode
of the Coucles podcast. You like
Speaker 4 (42:06):
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