November 12, 2025 • 53 mins
Hello everybody welcome to our episode with guest Mark Lester. Mark played "Oliver" in the great 1968 musical and has a great story to share. So sit back and enjoy our visit. Susan gave up Davy Jones for this kid so he is something!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I saw them sitting in the room.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, we're the Colcles. I'm Paul, I'm Bob, and I'm
Susan Cowcill.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And welcome, Welcome, one and all to the.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Calcil Podcast, where we have fun, fun, fun, even when
we're being serious every.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
Single week with our music stories and weekly special guests
from all walks of life.
Speaker 6 (00:27):
All of us can use a break sometimes take a
freezer right right right.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Well, if that's true for you, then you have a
ride at the right place at the right time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So we want you to sit back, reading back and escape.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
With us and to our world of harmony, laughter and
tom foolery.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So let's get to it. Here's today's episode of the Castle.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah we should tell people, you know, a lot of
times just before the recording starts, we're saying things we
really can't say in a pod cast episode. Get that
all out of our system.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, So I do want to start off with how
kind we are.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yes, yes, but we are hearing some fun stuff about
the coming summer and we can share it a little
of it. There's going to be more bands we can
say generics things.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
No, we're going to share I mean Ron Ron Call,
I mean you know who will not be mentioned.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
These news is out. We know who's going on the tour.
Now we allowed to say it yet or I feel.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh god, it's nobody said DL to me. I got
oh right over, here's what's up?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
All right?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Who wants to inter we should do this?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Then we'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Who's going to intro it? I'll do it.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Because I'm the guy who talked. So listen, y'all out
there in cast Land. We wait every year to find
out who's on. Fortunately we don't wait to find out
if we're on.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's a nice thing.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
But every year we wait and boy, you know, we
all know. And I'll say it without crying. Probably for
the first time, we lost our voman So now we
gotta rebrand. We're redoing everything, right, guys, and so here
comes Together Tours, a wild, happy together tour.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Tell them what they've won. Boys, you tell them what
they've won. Paul, you want a new car, You've won
the bo You've won Chicago, you've won.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Well, what we know, what we know is and everybody
will know, is that there's going to be eight acts.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Usually it's sick and uh yeah, and you know, and
the brand actually Susan. It's the same. It isn't changing, Okay.
The brand is the brand.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That continues on everyone Yes together brand, Yeah right, and
I do believe happy Together.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What I'm excited about.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It is what's going to happen differently? Are we just
going to come on out just and have shadows Stevens
still announcing the same way, and you'd.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Ask for the pub looks knowledge.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
I told the boys, I asked if we still get
to open, and we do.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, that's great. And now the association, who we love
these guys, they're so funny to us. They're coming back out, yes,
the three of them.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
No, no, no, actually del Ramos and that breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Delli Lama will not be joining us.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I'm not sure why he was sad, but maybe he's
got some health things, or maybe he's got some stuff
to take care of.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Dell's a busy guy.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
We don't really than jewels and maybe Paul.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No no, I've heard Polly Polly holland.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Will they even bring a third I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know, oh thought of that.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Remember when Jim Yester went down, well it sounded like
he died. He didn't die. But when Jim you know,
took his leave. The two of them sounded great.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah they did, yeah, and yeah, yeah they did.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And so of course the cow sills. All we want
to know is who's on the bus, who's driving? How
many songs do we get? Are still opening? So we're
relieved about that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That was the big one.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, but with eight.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Groups, if we all do five songs eight fives of forty,
then the audience will be asleep by the finale. So
I don't know what they're gonna do. If we do
all three. That doesn't sound enough.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Well, look, I mean this is a mathematical equation at
this point, right, if you have eight acts and you
have an.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Hour and a half, how long do we is it
an hour and a half?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It can go too, has it?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah? It has definitely?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah, Okay, all right, the intermission. So let's do too
with an intermission and do that math.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'll do the math.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, that's that's sixteen songs.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
What I try to do is I go sixteen and
then I times it by three three.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Average of a minute of a three minute song.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Sure for sure?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Sixteen twenty four, Yeah, that's twenty four minutes.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Let's let's do this. Here are the veterans of the
tour this summer, the cow Sills. Yeah, Gary Pucket is
coming back. He did that Inner Monitor thing and his
life changed. Yes, and even his winter shows you get
reports back that Gary Gary Pucket cut better. Gary Pucket's
(05:14):
doing that for him so much so. Casseo's pucketvogues the vogues.
But Troy's gonna have to sit that comedy down, I bet,
and no more of that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Business might not be as fun on the road.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
If he can't be funny on stage, maybe we'll let
him be more funny.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Off stage, which I don't think is possible.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Maybe we'll offer that, Troy, if you're listening, you can
bump up funny off stage this summer, okay?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Or do one last song and replace it with one
of your comedy skips.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And how many songs are they doing now? For four?
They do four so they can do their comedy.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They have if they go to three, you know, if
they go to three, they can't.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
All right, Troy, work on your new stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Coustles, Ron Dante, yay, Susan. The question with Ron Dante
is he doing a set of his own material?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
This detail I have not come up.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, well, I'll give a little something here though, and
I know nothing about it, but was only asked upon.
I can't remember when I guess they started figuring out
is it would I sing a duet maybe with Ron
so that might happen. Speaking speaking of where is Love
(06:32):
Cassi's we will interject here at this moment that our
guest today is mister Mark Lester from Oliver. Yeah that say,
tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Bob said where is love? So I back to this.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Okay, the folks, the association Dante Calcils worked before.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Keep going.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Okay, Now we go to the four other groups who
are coming out. Are you ready everybody? So we got
cow Sills Dogs Association. We know we're familiar with all those.
Now we go Trogs wild Thing, not not do the
wild thing. This is the earlier wild thing. Remember that
(07:13):
other one. Yeah, there, do the wild thing remember it
let the dogs out or anyway, Trogs wild thing.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Love is all around us.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That's all we can come up with, though.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But they'll probably think so that's the fortunes.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Now you've got your trouble.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
We have been performing you've got your troubles for about
three years now. So we're all excited about hearing the
fortunes do you've got your troubles, and.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
We'll probably never do it again.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
After we we'll.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Stand there and we'll we'll honor the originals, you know,
or how you know, how it is today?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Guys, who's original? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean sometimes I'm not even sure if we're originals.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, look, I do the same thing everybody else, and
so does Paul. We're singing billies.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Anyway, we're all in the same boat. Okay, we're on
the same boat, but our boat's a little We got
a family boat. Yeah, we got a family boat. The
other boats have to go out into the sea and
cast I don't know how they do it, but whatever.
So the trogs, well, I'm thinking that who else do
(08:22):
we have?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hold on Chicago?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
A gentleman from Chicago. Where are my notes?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Jation chef?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thank you the chef guy?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yes, Jation chef. I mean, Paul says, it sounds cool
if you say Chicago's coming.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Here's the three songs they had to leave five hits behind.
Jason was the lead singer for ten years. You know,
a lot of the non original band members were actually
in these bands longer than original members. So it's a
funny little relationship. It really is. So Jason had ten
(08:55):
years at the Helm and we can't wait to hear him.
He took the place of Petere Sata. Okay, everyone should
know that this is a guy who took over after
Peter left, and he took it over. Peter Sterra from
Chicago was the singer that Jason took over four for
ten years from Chicago. Peter Sitta. You're thinking of Peter, baby,
(09:19):
please don't go.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, oh man, I love that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, they'll have to decide what they want to do.
Now there's a group that has more than enough hits
to pick from. We'll see what they come up with.
So Fortunes Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Write down the Trogs.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
We got one more well, Gary Puckett.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Gary Puckett, Oh well he was in the four Originals,
so we got five Originals?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
How Gary Association?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And who us? No, who else?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
This is fun. I love doing this though, bringing up you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do we have we have to have eight, that's the biggest.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I also thought they about the Fortunes TRG station hip
and there we are and the Vogues. Yeah, that's it.
We did okay? Really just the new ones of the Fortunes,
the Targs and Jason Chef from Chicago are the new editions.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, or that's three man, that's way cool.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Three four, five, six seven, miss on.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My list, Gary Pucket.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
There is Gary Reister Vogues And it's going to be
a wild scene. Now that sounds like. Now, given that
there's only twelve spots per bus, this sounds like potentially
more than twelve spots per bus. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So here's what we what we know?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Yeah, correct, we have drivers Gary d Gary drives, Vogues
drive sometimes.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I don't remember them they.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Driving or were they just on the other bus and
I never saw them.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They were on the other bus and we see them
most of the times because they drive to the shows
that we do.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
But not happy together, okay, thank you, that's why I
have them doing that. Yeah, it's gonna be wild, it's
going to be melancholy because we're without our bosson Nova,
which was like.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
A lot of ballads coming at us.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, each group has ballads. They should pick the more
exciting unless they can't. You know, what are you going
to do?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Maybe? But maybe their research shows that these folks like
our ballads.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
We don't know, right, Oh, no, it does because look
at what we just the summer we just came off
of the folks had four ballads really in the Americans.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Yeah so, but listen, remember we were talking with our
Mike Kurtner from the River, our our radio cam padre.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
We were actually discussing he is quite One of his
questions was do we.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Think ballads or rock is more enduring? He asked that question.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I think that's interesting, like, what in the long run
from our era is the endurers and he felt they
were ballaid so.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, the ballots. What what the ballots do even more
than our upbeat pop rock stuff? Is the ballots truly
do bring them to that senior dance or that graduation dance.
I mean there's no denying that.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
The most sort of an emotional visceral reactor.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yes, or even references that. He goes, hey, you know
you're probably at your high school prom when you're hurting.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, yeah, so then yay.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Just because we didn't go to school doesn't mean we
shouldn't join and with the rest of the gang in
these wonderful memories.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be good.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It will be it'll be wild and will be Like
you guys, we're like, what do they call those people?
We're like sociologists. We love to watch humans, humans, Me,
Bob and Paul. So the tour is fun almost every
portion of the day because you wake up, you see
how everyone is, you see how everybody to sound check,
(13:10):
and then oh my god, by nighttime, well everybody's what
pollyood you got?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
We're going to be I bet there's a possibility and
this could be a question asked to Ron because we
would need to know this as far as days and dates.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
But it sounds like we might be headed to Atlanta
just prior to rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Wow, I don't know, you know, Yeah, I don't know.
If we're saying a song with Ron data.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Well, I don't know, but yeah, if I am, I'm
going to need to re true too. Look, let's let's
text you know who.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This is it?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, let's text Ron ask him about drivers and bus people.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, here it comes.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
We got time. Although Mark's gonna come on pretty soon.
By the way, Mark is doing two minutes. Mark Lester,
He's calling in from England and at six pm there,
which is why we're up, been early at it here
and I hope everything goes okay. If it doesn't, that's okay.
We can reconstitute, as we know. We got the technology
to do it.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Guy, I did want to mention this so you know
the girl can't She was at our last show. Yeah,
a journalist girl. I want to get her on the
podcast and and and and just dive into what the
heck she's doing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I love that idea.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, we have contact him for anything.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I have all the contact.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
This is the walks of life. But still in our world,
you know, yes, yes, you gotta do it. Okay, what
were we wondering for you?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
We're on something and we talked about three Thank you,
never mind, nothing happens now him about me?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I did.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh good, Well, ladies.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
And gentlemen on our podcast, Mark Lester's name has shown up.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
And there he is.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
There he is.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
You look great?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Well, you know a lot of cute little boys don't
necessarily turn into quite handsome men.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You flatter me.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
To be the one I'm supposed to be the one
flattering him to me in this group?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Hi, Mark, Hey, are you looking gorgeous?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Don't even start there.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Rather, Bob, did you warn him?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I don't warn people about you, all right.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
So here's the bottom line of this whole thing. And
every Cowcil fan, believe it or not, already knows this.
So people who are watching a Cowco podcast know my
history and they know that I effectively dumped Davy Jones
for you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, I did. I had.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
I was in love with Davy Jones my whole life,
and I met him once and it was one I had.
I was a fan girl Mark, and then I met him,
and then of course the age, you know, it was
just not cool.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And then Oliver came.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Out and there you were, and I fell in love
with you. And so when my brother said we can
have Mark Lester on our podcast, truly I celebrated.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Sweet.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, Well, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, So can I start you guys? Okay? So I
usually start most of them.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
And what we all love to know about our guests is,
before you were a famous actor, child actor, adult actor.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
When you were born and coming up in your home.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
What did you want to do? Did you always want
to act? Was it in your household or did you
have other young Mark aspirations?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It kind of was in my household because my dad,
Mom and dad were well, my dad did a lot
of kind of commercials back in the sort of in
the mid mid sixties, and there was he did a
lot of stuff for like toothpaste commercials and very liquid
And I think the first thing I ever did was
(17:02):
an advert. He was on a Fairy Snow advert and
they needed a kid baby and I was like two
or something. So my dad said, yeah, my son, he's
outside outside of the pushchair, and so they wheeled me on,
and I think that was my first taste of the cameras,
although I don't really remember it so well, so I
(17:25):
guess it was kind of ingrained a bit in my DNA.
Did I ever want to do anything else? I kind
of went through a stage where I wanted to be
an astronaut, but I didn't think that was going to happen,
so to stick with the acting.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well wait a minute, wait a minute. He Mark did
do something else. He became a doctor osiopathy or some
dark but he Okay, that's later, and he's a brilliant guy.
We'll get into that.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
But evidently he wasn't thinking about that when he was young,
and he was you were loving the limelight, so you
decided you're folks decided that this might be a good
opportunity for you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Did you do a bunch of things when you were
little or did you take a break and then land
all over? How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, I went to a drama school from the age
of five, and I used to do Yeah. I mean,
that's well, that's all I know, and I did. I
used to do a lot of TV work, so I'd
go out on catalogs. You know, before the internet, we
used to have you remember catalogs, you know when we
(18:31):
used to look through books. Yeah, to buy clothing and whatever.
Anyway I was I used to do. I seem to
remember doing these knitting pattern books as well. Is that
even a thing anymore?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I did those where you have the yes, the book
with a yarn. It was love.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
No, they tell you how to anyway. So they always
have a model kid who would model the like the
sweaters and whatever. Anyway, So I did a lot of that,
and I did a lot of TV ads, and then
I did a few movies before I did Oliver, but nothing,
nothing really is that was the big one. I did
a movie called Our Mother's House, which was before Oliver
(19:13):
and that was I had quite a large role in
that one. It's a very very creepy film, sounded Away. Yeah,
it's it's quite a dark but we got a lot
of attension and got quite a lot of Bogard. I
don't know if you remember Bogard. He was the main,
(19:36):
main guy in it, and he played the dad and
we were the kids who basically kill him. So it
was all very yeah, very dark.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well that'll be to Night's Fair for me.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Was that one of your biggest movies up to the
time that you did it?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been the biggie.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, that was Were you intimidated at all with, you know,
just the cast and the hugeness of it all and
the words you had to learn?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
No, not really, because I mean I was only like
eight years old and it was a big adventure for me.
I just turned up and you know, they were everyone
was really really great, very supportive. I think I was
one of the youngest on the set because most of
the Fagan's Fagan's guys Jack Wild, they were a lot
quite a bit older than me. I was like, they're
(20:29):
all about fourteen fifteen, which is quite a big gap,
and so they they always kind of looked after me,
and you know, they were supportive. Yeah, so it wasn't
really very different.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, then I have a couple of questions. Do you
have something?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I have a question?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, have I had a question? No? No, Yeah, it's
my turn.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Okay, I do have a question. I well, there's three
of us.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I do have a question.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I'm so curious about this. We all know historically that
that you didn't sing the songs in Olive were somebody
else did it for you? But my question is, did
you know you couldn't sing going into that movie and
they decided ahead of time we want this guy, we'll
sing for him, or was it later said, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I couldn't say it.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I couldn't dance either, So you say, yes, I know,
Actually it's not. It's not one hundred percent true because
what they did was in some of the songs thing
mixed my voice in with I think it was the
musical director and socause I can hear like parts of me.
(21:45):
I couldn't hit the high notes, so they used the
daughter of.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
John Green? Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Anyway? So it's not I mean, yes, I remember games
the recording studio and having to do singing. So the
bits that I couldn't hear they kind of okay.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
So I now want to ask a triviua go ahead, Sorry, question,
hey Mark, I'm curious about the girl Kathy So, after
she did this successful singing in the Oliver movie, did
she go on to have a singing career or do
anything with that or was that just a one off?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
To be honest, I don't know. I've not really heard
it was Kathy Green, wasn't I think John Green was
the musical director.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I I.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Haven't heard anything about her, so I don't think she
if she did go on to do anything, I certainly
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's just curious about it.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Okay, So thank you Robert.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay as a two parter. First, is I know this
in my ear about your the Try.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I had probably I don't know six copies of that
album that I wore out. And I don't know if
you know this, but the Cowcils we had a we
were on a seer of variety show called Craft Music
Hall and Jack Wild he was the special guest.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I've seen the YouTube pip of it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Sweaters.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, I love it. It was really really good. It
is so all the seventies, wasn't it. Oh wow, it
was brilliant.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, seriously, you must understand that we have just probably
come from the from.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The theater a month ago. Again, you know, it was
it was all in.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Real time, so we were I was beside myself, except
for it was Jack and not you, at which point
he spent a good deal of his time messing with me,
telling me you were horrible, rotten, awful, the worst of
the character.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Yeah, well of course you you know, just being a boy.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You're laughing. But it was really upsetting to me. He
got me crying and enjoy because, oh my gosh, oh
my gosh, it's right. I loved you. But here's a
question about the audio, and you might not remember it.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And this is such a geeky fan thing, but one
of the things I think you're singing is.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Just thinking of growling fact.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
And it doesn't sound like the little Girl to me
in my ear, in my head. So I'd like for
you to go back and identify all the parks you
sang and get back to me.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I think my ear is so tuned to it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Go ahead, guys, let me say one quick thing. You
can have him, Mark, Susan is eight years old in
nineteen sixty eight when this movie comes out. Okay, yeah,
and now we're kind of famous too, so we have
an NBC special. The songs from Oliver were so ingrained
in us that we even put consider Yourself in our
TV special with Susan and her little brothers wa washing
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a Saint Bernard Dog.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I love it and the movie. And then we go
on Playboy After Dark, which is you ns Tevie show,
and Supan is singing where is Love? Like like you
did it because she wants to bond with you that night.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I love it, and it actually talked them into doing
I never got my way on anything.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Mark.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
I was eight and I remember just saying I want
to sing where is Love?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And everybody went, what.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Everything's on YouTube? Before?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh god, Paul, Now you go ahead, Bob, Okay, quick
question about twelve Oscar nominations. Now, I'm just curious. It's
such a big movie A sixty eight. Did they get
to did you all get to come to Hollywood or
New York wherever it was and have a table and
the whole cast from Oliver is there at the Academy
Awards or did you just hear about it at home?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh god, no, I was there. I actually gave on
a white hir Oscar. I went on stage. Oh my god, Oscar.
So I got. I was there. They put us up.
I remember we also at the Beverly Wheelshire Hotel in
LA and they the Columbia it was. They had cars
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for us. I'd never known anything like it. So we
had our own. I mean why I used to go
on the bus when I was back back in England
and I had my own like chauffeur. This was brilliant.
And Jack. Jack had his room and he figured out
that everything was like on Columbia. So he figured out
that he could order from the local toy store and
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I remember he ordered all these hot wheels and he
had a whole room full of hot wheels cars. And
he said, Mark, Mark, all you have to do is
ring down to reception and contact this toy store and
they'll send anything you want. And I was like, well,
I better not do. I'll get into really big, big
trouble anyway, So I didn't, but Jack did, and he
had all the I remember, all these hot wheel he
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must have had the entire catalog of hot wheels in
his room, and it was so we spent a lot
of time using these little cars round and round on
the tracks.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh my gosh, that is incredible. And so this kind
of leads me to my question.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I was going to ask if if Jack, when you
guys were working and stuff, was he a mischievous kind
of guy?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Did he ever get you in trouble?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Because he came and he stayed with us in Santa Monica,
California for a while. He was over here, and my
dad and the manager or something knew each other. So
Jack was staying with us and we were in our
rehearsal hall and you know, and all of a sudden,
Jack lights up a cigarette and dude, it was like
it blew our minds.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It threw our minds.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
He was pretty is it cheat? Yeah? I was about right?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Okay, Okay, so Jack, I mean the Jack that we
got is the Jack that you you got?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Were you guys good pals?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah? Oh god, yeah, I mean although obviously he was
quite a bit older, as we got older than at
the age gap narrows. So with his first wife, Gainer,
they had a really lovely house sort of in just
outside London, and quite often we at weekends we would
have they'd have big parties there. So jacobee I think
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he got married. He would have been about twenty two
or something awesome, and then I'm then by about fourteen fifteen,
and he used to have these great parties and then
we would play cowboys and Indians and he'd have we'd have
because of course we don't have guns, well we used
well we don't have guns like you guys have over there,
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so we'd have like these things called air guns and
we'd fire.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But it was.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Crazy because we were like firing each other, and I mean,
god knows how there wasn't a serious injury because no
one seemed to chair for wild Wild Yeah, well yeah,
we were pretty wild in those days. But we all
came out of it, Okay.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, absolutely, I think anyway, we had some troubles and.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The end of you I'm sorry, Bob, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, I'm just saying Jack and you you were. Jack
did your own movie together shortly after Oliver. I think
they did Melody together.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, that's right. We did Melody, which it's funny actually
because it's a nice movie but with music by the Beat. Yeah,
it's a nice little bit. It just kind of went
under the radar this country, but it was a huge,
huge hit in Japan, of all places, and the Far East.
So I've been to Japan many, many times on the
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back of that movie. A couple of recently, a couple
of years ago, they did a fifty year anniversary of
the movie, and I went over to Tokyo where they
had some screenings of it, and there were people were
I mean just coming up and literally crying and saying
how much it changed their lives. And well, it was
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a nice movie, but I don't know if it's life changing.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
So that's our Jane Susan's life.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Stop it.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I wouldn't have flown to Japan, Yes I would have. No,
I wouldn't have, but I did. I mean, it was
under the radar, but not if you were a Mark
Lester fan. There was a group of us we knew
Run Wild, Run Free.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
That's okay.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Now I'm a horse girl. Now remember I'm just a
little girl, and I have a huge crush on you.
So I'm following you to every movie. You're gonna go
to Run Wild, Run Free.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm going to leave home because he has.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
He lives out in the wilderness with this horse where
I want to live with him and the rest of
the world will go away.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We'll ride this one horse he's got.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
And so, but you did a lot of stuff, man,
you didn't just and and there's some stuff later that
I'm going to now go retro look for.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
But you can ask a question about the Oscars, because
were you nominated for Supporting Actor?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
No, I wasn't. Jack Laws, Oh Jack was. And Ron
Mood he was psyched, was nominated for No, he was fakant.
He was nominated. He was nominated for Best Actor, which
I think he lost out to Ernest borg Dane. I
think that, yeah, who I work with later in later
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another movie.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But who what You're up there on stage with everyone
who won what?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
In that?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I think Oliver got Best Picture, the best I think, right,
best Director? You're right, well, I don't think any of
the actors got anything. But it got Best Musical Music Score.
It was pretty big. I think. I remember I was
sitting next to Barbara streisand you know, at the front
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of the thing, and of course I'm only a little kid,
and I'm like ten, so I didn't really know who
any of you know really who any of these people were.
And I remember we we I did know because we
bumped into Tony Curtis and the drug store opposite the
Beverly Wilshire Hotel, and he was such a nice guy.
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And I'm not even sure whether he was the Oscars.
He was just in the drug store buying.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh wow, probably would I know it was?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
It was? But then I think it's I don't know
if it's changed. I haven't been back since then. But
it was really glamorous back in the day.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The glamour left. I think somewhere in the early seventies,
the glamour part.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I think the glamour did. I don't. I think it's
now a kind of the red carpet seems to be
a sort of a showcase for like mostly political agenda now,
which is a bit bit of a shame.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Can I may I ask a couple of Ron Moody.
Was he a cool guy? Was he fun or not fun? Oh?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Ron was great. He was very very serious. He was
he was a very serious, kind of method type actor,
but he was. He's a lovely man. In fact, we
last he's dead now. But we went to Chicago for
one of these signing things, and and Shaney was there,
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Jenny Wallace, Nancy, Ron Moody, Fagin and myself and we
we spent about three or four days in Chicago and
one of these not Comic Con, but it's similar.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Fan based me greetings there.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, that's right, people like I met Butcher Patrick there
from ours.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Yes, we we do the you did one of the
chiller was it chiller?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I did a chiller yees in New York. That was
great fun. There's a lot of Yeah, it was great,
really good fun. I really enjoyed those things. Fantastic fun.
And we're all like mates and and uh yeah we
see old.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Friends and even guys like Butch.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I don't know about you, but we have found being
child stars.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
We all went to a school in Hollywood called Hollywood
Professional School. Butch Packers went there, All the Brady kids
went there, the Brady bunch, you know. And and what
I find through the years my brother John, our brother
John is in a band with Bill Moomey from the
Kid from Lost in Space.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Oh gosh, I love that show.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Well, they have a band, I know, don't you. Well,
it's like we're all we all have made it up
in the end. You know, we're all friends. We did
this together, we were kids. We're all ancient now, and
it's lovely for us. I mean we talked to Butch
all the time.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I mean he we just regards a friend of mine
on Facebook, but a post anything.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He's a lovely cat. He was best friends with our brother.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Oh we chatsy. We had a I think we met.
That wasn't Chicago, that was I think that was in
Los Angeles when we did Hollywood wherever it is. The Yeah,
it was great, absolutely great.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And then my.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
William I was going to say, my my my daughter
was absolutely in love with I'm trying to think of
his name. The guy was in the A team. Who
is Ace face face?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Oh, the young the blonde guy. Come on, y'all, it
wasn't mister t And it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
It was it wasn't wasn't George. So it was the
other dude, cool, the other other dude, the cool one. Anyway,
she loved him. She, my daughter absolutely loved him. And
she heard that I was going to be in the
same room as him, so she said, oh, Dad, please
get his autograph. So I went over and I thought,
you know, I hate. I never asked people for but anyway,
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I did it for her. So I said, would you
sign this? I'm trying to think of his name is anyway,
such a lovely guy. Not only his sign picture, he
he sends memorabilia for my daughter and he was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm going to get his mark.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
That's good. It's tough to do his name.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
We've got to give him a look.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
We're all over sixty five here and this is that season.
I got it, almost, said Dirk Benedict. Is that Dirk Benedict.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Benedict, Yeah, that's it. That's the guy. This guy really
lovely guy, sweet, lovely, lovely.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, yeah, No, Dirk was huge. He's eighty, y'all.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I know, I know, it's just I know it's it's
it's when I think that's the like the eighties and
all the seventies. It seems like it's about three weeks ago,
and I realized it's like thy years ago. The mirror
quite scary.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's very and I think you're awesome for getting your
daughter that autograph, young man. So now we've got to
take you you we make all these movies.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I got a question just because Mark, you've just been
busy as a sbian as an actor, and I'm always
curious because we laugh about our schooling. How did school
go for you because you were such a young actor.
I know they had those studio teachers and all that,
but did you feel like you got an education along
the way.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Were you able to go to regular school or college? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I did go to regular school, and my parents tried
to make them when I did my movies, they try
to time it, so it was mainly in the holidays
when vacation time.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Novel idea of parents.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah. But when I was when I did the movies,
and if I was, I always had a private tutor.
So when I went back to my kind of main school,
I was always well ahead because I obviously had on
one tuition.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Did your parents feel it was important that you kept
your education up.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's a legal requirement in in the UK. It must
be in the States as well.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
As well anybody.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Less.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Yeah, it's just curious if your folks actually cared. It
sounds like they did because this is yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I mean, well they did, but also I had it
was a legal requirement, so I educases.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, okay, okay, question, So back to Oliver. I'm just
questioned about the people you were working with, because I mean,
who was was Oliver Reid, Bill Sikes? I think that
Billy was, okay.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Of course Oliver Reed.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, read No were you aware of the status of
these actors you're coming in with. These were pretty famous
at the time, and no, no.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I had no idea who any of them were, because
Oliver Reed was mainly an adult, right, not an adult actor,
not in the sense of adult movies. He was more
doing films that a child would not have watched, right,
were Wolf and uh and some high SMOOTHI is so,
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in fact, untill later I realized that Carolry was actually
his uncle. I didn't I didn't even know that.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
That's what I was going to ask you. Who the
director was was at first related to Oliver So that's
all kind of yes, Yes, he was nephew.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
The young lady who was Shaney's little gal pal.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Who is the Chelah White Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
She was lovely.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I thought she was so much.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I'm just gonna sit here and I got a quick one.
I got a quick one with all the production numbers. Yeah,
I mean yourself. It was like involves the whole community
in the on the movie. You know, so with all
the production numbers, did this movie take a long time
to film?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, it took a year because we didn't take years
of film. We did three months of rehearsal and then
nine months of shooting. Wow, I mean it's just you
couldn't do that now, I mean, you just you know,
it's would be impossible.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Did you all have a sense that you were working
on something special?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
No, Okay, well I kind of that's not true. I mean, yes, yes,
and no I didn't. I mean I was eight years old.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, you're very young, So.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I knew that it was a big production, but I
had no idea that it would be exactly and how
popular it would be, even you know, fifty is nearly
sixty years on. So yeah, I had no idea of
the magnitude of it.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
And you went right in.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
You know, so that movie comes out, Mark, and all
of a sudden, you're in sixteen magazine. You're in all
these teen magazines, and you become like a teen idol. Really,
I mean, Susan was one of them. And so were
you feeling that as it happened? You know, I'm trying
to remember when it happened for us.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It was like, oh wow, we were in the same
magazines at.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
The same.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Great. How tigerbe Tiger Beat sixteen. I should have to
ask my mother in law, who's sitting across the room,
the room, what would the magazines even ten?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Tav barror, yeah, barah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Mirrah, yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
You're in England getting wind of this.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You know we're over so and so so on.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
You come into these teen magazines and now you're directly
in my world.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I am so happy. And that's when Davy Jones got
pushed aside.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
I had an Asia appropriate boy to be a fan of,
and I could look, I'm not kidding. I sent away,
I got the eight by Tens, I had a scrap book.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
It was it's all that Mark.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm sorry, you know you well, no, that's my mother
in law. My wife's actually up in London at the moment,
my mother and she's my wife's from from full Worth,
so she she but Eve her mom. I'm looking after
her for for a while, Brooks up in London.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
It's awesome, Okay, we got well, we must get you
from from your acting to your your your other career.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Bob, what do you go ahead?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Bob?
Speaker 2 (42:26):
You have well It's.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Like, I'm just curious. We all have our arc of
our career. We're still in ours, but it's not what
it used to be, of course, but you're going to change.
And I'm just curious. Did your did your acting career
naturally diminish and you picked up I'm a smart guy.
I like science and biology. Did the phone stop bringing
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or did you leave and say I've had enough of this,
I need to get a real life.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
How that all? That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Actually, I think what happened was the kind of work
tailed off. It was late seventies and so, and then
I did some stage stuff, which I really enjoyed, but
I got really bored with after about three three weeks
of repetitive doing the same thing on stage.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
It got bored of it.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I did, because it becomes very monotonous, and you know,
I it was so it was fun. I did a
few things touring around UK, and then I just decided
that that it just wasn't really for me and I
wasn't prepared to sit by the phone and wait for work.
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So my dad at the time had some restaurants, so
I kind of worked for him for a bit, just some.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
More capacity, just curious.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Oh, working to making coffees in the restaurant, They'll be
waiting at the tables and all sorts of things, running,
you know, to bread back and forwards from between the restaurants.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
So while I was doing that, and then I started
doing martial arts, and in through the martial arts, I
got an interest in sports injury. So I was seeing
a lot of guys in competitions getting injured and no
one seemed to know what to do. So I thought
it might be a good idea to get some sort
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of knowledge about sports injury. So I studied to be
an ousti path.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
Because everybody, I mean, I just couldn't. I couldn't just
flip that switch over.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Here when you're working for the restaurant or you're getting
a lot of a lot of Hey, Oliver Mark lest
what are you doing here? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yes, and now I me, yeah, I did get yeah,
people coming in and asking fulls grass and stuff. But
I know I did in the English very kind of
very reserved. I remember being at a bus stop once
and some girls, it's probably just after I did Oliver them,
some girls just going into town and sitting at the
buck Stop Bustop and there's three girls came up and said,
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you're mart Lestra, aren't you? And I went, no, no, not,
and they went, yes you are, Yes, you are. And
after about five minute, I said, oh, yes I am,
and they went they you're not. They're not.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
No, you can't. Yeah, fans were a whole other thing.
Listen to me, I'm one, but I'm not like that.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He listen.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I got out of a cab once in Hawaii and
they insisted I looked like I was done of it,
and they would not accept And I was famous at
the time as the councils, and they still didn't accept it.
And they asked me to sign Donovan's name and I
kind of did it. I said, I guess that's craziest
thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You're funny. I'm not here. Well I am. That's a
good I know.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
The more you deny it, the more they think that
you're that you really are.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
And Mark did Mark, it's funny.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
And I wonder again, how how you were feeling it,
if you ever got a feeling or a notion that it.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Was out there happening.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
But but when that movie ended, and look at we
must have seen that movie nine times, Oliver, the whole
big thing.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
We kept running up to people and we would go,
you want more, you know, the whole more thing?
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Please?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Did that follow you around?
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
It still does.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
In fact, this afternoon, this afternoon I went I know
it's early this morning your time, but this afternoon I
went over to a school at local school, but they're
actually doing a production of Oliver, and I spoke to
all the kiddies there and they did ask that question about, well,
what was my favorite lie in the movie? And I
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think that it has to be, doesn't that really?
Speaker 6 (46:59):
Yeah, it's like our life with hair.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh my god, we loved it, Bob. Were you ever
able to all of you?
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Were you ever able years later to have a reunion,
let's say, or some kind of get together where you
all celebrated your your great victory.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
In that movie?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah? Well, they did do a bb I think the
BBC or ITV in here in the UK did a
or BBC not very popular at the moment. I think
it must have been ITV. Anyway, don't worry about it.
I don't. I'm buying Donald so.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Behind me, my flowers in the backyard.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
So anyway, yeah, they did is.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
There a recording of it.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
It probably is.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
It's done.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
It must have been about fifteen years ago. Jack was there,
Ron was there, Shaney was there.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Was she wonderful?
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Oh he's great. I mean she lives near you guys.
Where is she in? Uh? We got to get Santa Barbara.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
We got to get ahold of Jack.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
No, Jack, Jack Jack, I ain't with us anymore.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Oh, I didn't know that Jack passed?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
What like that was about? Like when was that?
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Like quite a long time ago, I say about No, No,
we took him like two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
He didn't make that reunion.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Okay, three two thousand and four.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I think that was a long time ago. I've lost track.
Jack went down. You know Jack was Jack.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Two thousand and six, I think, yeah, wow, Yeah, poor Jack. Yeah,
he got quite ill and yeah, yeah it was it
was unfortunately downward trajectory for him.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
So you you have chosen academia and you're going to
focus on sports medicine. Is that your life today? Is
that what you do?
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I'm yeah. I mean my main interest was getting in
through the sports injury aspects of it. But I mean, yeah,
I do see sports people, but it's in general I
guess i'd be more like a chiropractor would be in
in in the US. So you know, I'm seeing a
lot of neck and back injuries mainly. That will be
(49:29):
you got anything you.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Got into acupuncture right or something? Yeah, I love it,
I do.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
I do that along with the manipulations. Yeah, it seems
to work quite well together.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
It's so, is there are there physicians in your family?
Or did you just lateral that way because.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
You were going that was just me? I don't know.
Maybe been my great great great grandfather. I don't know,
but I'm the only one.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Okay, Well, Mark, we got to let you go.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
You know it's getting late in England.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I know it's dark here, you believe at four o'clock
in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (50:10):
I want to tell you this has been a bucket
list I didn't know I had.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So it has been a huge pleasure for me to
meet you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Well, it's been a great pleasure for me to meet
all of you, and especially you of course, and thank
you for having me on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
One last question.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
We loved you, Mark, We all loved you so much.
They love you as much as I do.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
They know you.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Sweet.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
One last thing, are you doing any acting or you
just just hanging in the medical field.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
No, I'm just hanging in the medical field. So unless
maybe we actually even I've been watching this thing called
Tulsa King. We absolutely love it. So if Sylvester Sloane
wants to, you know, put in one of these things,
I will do it because we love invest That's something.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
We should write him. Mark.
Speaker 6 (51:07):
You should say, Mark Lester here, I've been watching your
show and I would come out of retirement.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I would love I wish, I wish for him.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Think about it.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
I have one last question, Mark, I'm just curious in
your life after Oliver, were you ever asked to or
did you ever perform as a singer? You know, a
decent version of Where Is Love? Or by saying I
couldn't do in the first place.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
If you'd like to see my version, it's out there
on Playboy after Dark of all things, because that's where
girl belongs.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
It's a lovely right. But that was my choice, was
the song.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
But I only asked that because we come from a world,
the music world, where if a group loses its lead singer,
somebody else in that group usually steps forward and says,
I'm the lead singer now, and done, but that doesn't
really work in your business.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
I know you're all female, exactly lucky you know she's
still there.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Mark Lester, We're gonna let you go. Say,
give your mom in law hug for me. And that's
a nice you got going back there.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Love to Brook everything all right, fask you much?
Speaker 5 (52:27):
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We definitely had a blast visiting with you, don't forget.
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Speaker 2 (52:40):
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Speaker 5 (52:44):
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Speaker 2 (52:52):
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Speaker 1 (52:54):
Until then, let's.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
Stay in touch by tuning in each week for another
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Speaker 2 (53:07):
Omah
I saw them sitting in the room.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, we're the Colcles. I'm Paul, I'm Bob, and I'm
Susan Cowcill.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
And welcome, Welcome, one and all to the.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Calcil Podcast, where we have fun, fun, fun, even when
we're being serious every.
Speaker 5 (00:22):
Single week with our music stories and weekly special guests
from all walks of life.
Speaker 6 (00:27):
All of us can use a break sometimes take a
freezer right right right.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Well, if that's true for you, then you have a
ride at the right place at the right time.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So we want you to sit back, reading back and escape.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
With us and to our world of harmony, laughter and
tom foolery.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So let's get to it. Here's today's episode of the Castle.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah we should tell people, you know, a lot of
times just before the recording starts, we're saying things we
really can't say in a pod cast episode. Get that
all out of our system.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, So I do want to start off with how
kind we are.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yes, yes, but we are hearing some fun stuff about
the coming summer and we can share it a little
of it. There's going to be more bands we can
say generics things.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
No, we're going to share I mean Ron Ron Call,
I mean you know who will not be mentioned.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
These news is out. We know who's going on the tour.
Now we allowed to say it yet or I feel.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh god, it's nobody said DL to me. I got
oh right over, here's what's up?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
All right?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Who wants to inter we should do this?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Then we'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Who's going to intro it? I'll do it.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Because I'm the guy who talked. So listen, y'all out
there in cast Land. We wait every year to find
out who's on. Fortunately we don't wait to find out
if we're on.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's a nice thing.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
But every year we wait and boy, you know, we
all know. And I'll say it without crying. Probably for
the first time, we lost our voman So now we
gotta rebrand. We're redoing everything, right, guys, and so here
comes Together Tours, a wild, happy together tour.
Speaker 7 (02:08):
Tell them what they've won. Boys, you tell them what
they've won. Paul, you want a new car, You've won
the bo You've won Chicago, you've won.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Well, what we know, what we know is and everybody
will know, is that there's going to be eight acts.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Usually it's sick and uh yeah, and you know, and
the brand actually Susan. It's the same. It isn't changing, Okay.
The brand is the brand.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
That continues on everyone Yes together brand, Yeah right, and
I do believe happy Together.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What I'm excited about.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It is what's going to happen differently? Are we just
going to come on out just and have shadows Stevens
still announcing the same way, and you'd.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Ask for the pub looks knowledge.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
I told the boys, I asked if we still get
to open, and we do.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, that's great. And now the association, who we love
these guys, they're so funny to us. They're coming back out, yes,
the three of them.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
No, no, no, actually del Ramos and that breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Delli Lama will not be joining us.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I'm not sure why he was sad, but maybe he's
got some health things, or maybe he's got some stuff
to take care of.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Dell's a busy guy.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
We don't really than jewels and maybe Paul.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No no, I've heard Polly Polly holland.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Will they even bring a third I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know, oh thought of that.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Remember when Jim Yester went down, well it sounded like
he died. He didn't die. But when Jim you know,
took his leave. The two of them sounded great.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah they did, yeah, and yeah, yeah they did.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And so of course the cow sills. All we want
to know is who's on the bus, who's driving? How
many songs do we get? Are still opening? So we're
relieved about that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That was the big one.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, but with eight.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Groups, if we all do five songs eight fives of forty,
then the audience will be asleep by the finale. So
I don't know what they're gonna do. If we do
all three. That doesn't sound enough.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Well, look, I mean this is a mathematical equation at
this point, right, if you have eight acts and you
have an.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Hour and a half, how long do we is it
an hour and a half?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It can go too, has it?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah? It has definitely?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Yeah, Okay, all right, the intermission. So let's do too
with an intermission and do that math.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
I'll do the math.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Well, that's that's sixteen songs.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
What I try to do is I go sixteen and
then I times it by three three.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Average of a minute of a three minute song.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Sure for sure?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Sixteen twenty four, Yeah, that's twenty four minutes.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Let's let's do this. Here are the veterans of the
tour this summer, the cow Sills. Yeah, Gary Pucket is
coming back. He did that Inner Monitor thing and his
life changed. Yes, and even his winter shows you get
reports back that Gary Gary Pucket cut better. Gary Pucket's
(05:14):
doing that for him so much so. Casseo's pucketvogues the vogues.
But Troy's gonna have to sit that comedy down, I bet,
and no more of that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Business might not be as fun on the road.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
If he can't be funny on stage, maybe we'll let
him be more funny.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Off stage, which I don't think is possible.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Maybe we'll offer that, Troy, if you're listening, you can
bump up funny off stage this summer, okay?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Or do one last song and replace it with one
of your comedy skips.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And how many songs are they doing now? For four?
They do four so they can do their comedy.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They have if they go to three, you know, if
they go to three, they can't.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
All right, Troy, work on your new stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Coustles, Ron Dante, yay, Susan. The question with Ron Dante
is he doing a set of his own material?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
This detail I have not come up.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, well, I'll give a little something here though, and
I know nothing about it, but was only asked upon.
I can't remember when I guess they started figuring out
is it would I sing a duet maybe with Ron
so that might happen. Speaking speaking of where is Love
(06:32):
Cassi's we will interject here at this moment that our
guest today is mister Mark Lester from Oliver. Yeah that say,
tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Bob said where is love? So I back to this.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Okay, the folks, the association Dante Calcils worked before.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Keep going.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Okay, Now we go to the four other groups who
are coming out. Are you ready everybody? So we got
cow Sills Dogs Association. We know we're familiar with all those.
Now we go Trogs wild Thing, not not do the
wild thing. This is the earlier wild thing. Remember that
(07:13):
other one. Yeah, there, do the wild thing remember it
let the dogs out or anyway, Trogs wild thing.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Love is all around us.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
That's all we can come up with, though.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
But they'll probably think so that's the fortunes.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Now you've got your trouble.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
We have been performing you've got your troubles for about
three years now. So we're all excited about hearing the
fortunes do you've got your troubles, and.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
We'll probably never do it again.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
After we we'll.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Stand there and we'll we'll honor the originals, you know,
or how you know, how it is today?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Guys, who's original? You know?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I mean sometimes I'm not even sure if we're originals.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Well, look, I do the same thing everybody else, and
so does Paul. We're singing billies.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Anyway, we're all in the same boat. Okay, we're on
the same boat, but our boat's a little We got
a family boat. Yeah, we got a family boat. The
other boats have to go out into the sea and
cast I don't know how they do it, but whatever.
So the trogs, well, I'm thinking that who else do
(08:22):
we have?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Hold on Chicago?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
A gentleman from Chicago. Where are my notes?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Jation chef?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Thank you the chef guy?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yes, Jation chef. I mean, Paul says, it sounds cool
if you say Chicago's coming.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Here's the three songs they had to leave five hits behind.
Jason was the lead singer for ten years. You know,
a lot of the non original band members were actually
in these bands longer than original members. So it's a
funny little relationship. It really is. So Jason had ten
(08:55):
years at the Helm and we can't wait to hear him.
He took the place of Petere Sata. Okay, everyone should
know that this is a guy who took over after
Peter left, and he took it over. Peter Sterra from
Chicago was the singer that Jason took over four for
ten years from Chicago. Peter Sitta. You're thinking of Peter, baby,
(09:19):
please don't go.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, oh man, I love that stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Yeah, they'll have to decide what they want to do.
Now there's a group that has more than enough hits
to pick from. We'll see what they come up with.
So Fortunes Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Write down the Trogs.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
We got one more well, Gary Puckett.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Gary Puckett, Oh well he was in the four Originals,
so we got five Originals?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
How Gary Association?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And who us? No, who else?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
This is fun. I love doing this though, bringing up you.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Do we have we have to have eight, that's the biggest.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I also thought they about the Fortunes TRG station hip
and there we are and the Vogues. Yeah, that's it.
We did okay? Really just the new ones of the Fortunes,
the Targs and Jason Chef from Chicago are the new editions.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, or that's three man, that's way cool.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Three four, five, six seven, miss on.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My list, Gary Pucket.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
There is Gary Reister Vogues And it's going to be
a wild scene. Now that sounds like. Now, given that
there's only twelve spots per bus, this sounds like potentially
more than twelve spots per bus. So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So here's what we what we know?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
Yeah, correct, we have drivers Gary d Gary drives, Vogues
drive sometimes.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I don't remember them they.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Driving or were they just on the other bus and
I never saw them.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
They were on the other bus and we see them
most of the times because they drive to the shows
that we do.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
But not happy together, okay, thank you, that's why I
have them doing that. Yeah, it's gonna be wild, it's
going to be melancholy because we're without our bosson Nova,
which was like.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
A lot of ballads coming at us.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, each group has ballads. They should pick the more
exciting unless they can't. You know, what are you going
to do?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Maybe? But maybe their research shows that these folks like
our ballads.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
We don't know, right, Oh, no, it does because look
at what we just the summer we just came off
of the folks had four ballads really in the Americans.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Yeah so, but listen, remember we were talking with our
Mike Kurtner from the River, our our radio cam padre.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
We were actually discussing he is quite One of his
questions was do we.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Think ballads or rock is more enduring? He asked that question.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
I think that's interesting, like, what in the long run
from our era is the endurers and he felt they
were ballaid so.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Well, the ballots. What what the ballots do even more
than our upbeat pop rock stuff? Is the ballots truly
do bring them to that senior dance or that graduation dance.
I mean there's no denying that.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
The most sort of an emotional visceral reactor.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yes, or even references that. He goes, hey, you know
you're probably at your high school prom when you're hurting.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, yeah, so then yay.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Just because we didn't go to school doesn't mean we
shouldn't join and with the rest of the gang in
these wonderful memories.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, it'll be good.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
It will be it'll be wild and will be Like
you guys, we're like, what do they call those people?
We're like sociologists. We love to watch humans, humans, Me,
Bob and Paul. So the tour is fun almost every
portion of the day because you wake up, you see
how everyone is, you see how everybody to sound check,
(13:10):
and then oh my god, by nighttime, well everybody's what
pollyood you got?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
We're going to be I bet there's a possibility and
this could be a question asked to Ron because we
would need to know this as far as days and dates.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
But it sounds like we might be headed to Atlanta
just prior to rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Wow, I don't know, you know, Yeah, I don't know.
If we're saying a song with Ron data.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Well, I don't know, but yeah, if I am, I'm
going to need to re true too. Look, let's let's
text you know who.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
This is it?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, let's text Ron ask him about drivers and bus people.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, here it comes.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
We got time. Although Mark's gonna come on pretty soon.
By the way, Mark is doing two minutes. Mark Lester,
He's calling in from England and at six pm there,
which is why we're up, been early at it here
and I hope everything goes okay. If it doesn't, that's okay.
We can reconstitute, as we know. We got the technology
to do it.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Guy, I did want to mention this so you know
the girl can't She was at our last show. Yeah,
a journalist girl. I want to get her on the
podcast and and and and just dive into what the
heck she's doing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I love that idea.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, we have contact him for anything.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I have all the contact.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
This is the walks of life. But still in our world,
you know, yes, yes, you gotta do it. Okay, what
were we wondering for you?
Speaker 6 (14:37):
We're on something and we talked about three Thank you,
never mind, nothing happens now him about me?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I did.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Oh good, Well, ladies.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
And gentlemen on our podcast, Mark Lester's name has shown up.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
And there he is.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
There he is.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
You look great?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Oh thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Well, you know a lot of cute little boys don't
necessarily turn into quite handsome men.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You flatter me.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
To be the one I'm supposed to be the one
flattering him to me in this group?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Hi, Mark, Hey, are you looking gorgeous?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Don't even start there.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Rather, Bob, did you warn him?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I don't warn people about you, all right.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
So here's the bottom line of this whole thing. And
every Cowcil fan, believe it or not, already knows this.
So people who are watching a Cowco podcast know my
history and they know that I effectively dumped Davy Jones
for you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Okay, I did. I had.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
I was in love with Davy Jones my whole life,
and I met him once and it was one I had.
I was a fan girl Mark, and then I met him,
and then of course the age, you know, it was
just not cool.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And then Oliver came.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Out and there you were, and I fell in love
with you. And so when my brother said we can
have Mark Lester on our podcast, truly I celebrated.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Sweet.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, Well, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, So can I start you guys? Okay? So I
usually start most of them.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
And what we all love to know about our guests is,
before you were a famous actor, child actor, adult actor.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
When you were born and coming up in your home.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
What did you want to do? Did you always want
to act? Was it in your household or did you
have other young Mark aspirations?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
It kind of was in my household because my dad,
Mom and dad were well, my dad did a lot
of kind of commercials back in the sort of in
the mid mid sixties, and there was he did a
lot of stuff for like toothpaste commercials and very liquid
And I think the first thing I ever did was
(17:02):
an advert. He was on a Fairy Snow advert and
they needed a kid baby and I was like two
or something. So my dad said, yeah, my son, he's
outside outside of the pushchair, and so they wheeled me on,
and I think that was my first taste of the cameras,
although I don't really remember it so well, so I
(17:25):
guess it was kind of ingrained a bit in my DNA.
Did I ever want to do anything else? I kind
of went through a stage where I wanted to be
an astronaut, but I didn't think that was going to happen,
so to stick with the acting.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well wait a minute, wait a minute. He Mark did
do something else. He became a doctor osiopathy or some
dark but he Okay, that's later, and he's a brilliant guy.
We'll get into that.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
But evidently he wasn't thinking about that when he was young,
and he was you were loving the limelight, so you
decided you're folks decided that this might be a good
opportunity for you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Did you do a bunch of things when you were
little or did you take a break and then land
all over? How did that happen?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, I went to a drama school from the age
of five, and I used to do Yeah. I mean,
that's well, that's all I know, and I did. I
used to do a lot of TV work, so I'd
go out on catalogs. You know, before the internet, we
used to have you remember catalogs, you know when we
(18:31):
used to look through books. Yeah, to buy clothing and whatever.
Anyway I was I used to do. I seem to
remember doing these knitting pattern books as well. Is that
even a thing anymore?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I did those where you have the yes, the book
with a yarn. It was love.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
No, they tell you how to anyway. So they always
have a model kid who would model the like the
sweaters and whatever. Anyway, So I did a lot of that,
and I did a lot of TV ads, and then
I did a few movies before I did Oliver, but nothing,
nothing really is that was the big one. I did
a movie called Our Mother's House, which was before Oliver
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and that was I had quite a large role in
that one. It's a very very creepy film, sounded Away. Yeah,
it's it's quite a dark but we got a lot
of attension and got quite a lot of Bogard. I
don't know if you remember Bogard. He was the main,
(19:36):
main guy in it, and he played the dad and
we were the kids who basically kill him. So it
was all very yeah, very dark.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well that'll be to Night's Fair for me.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Was that one of your biggest movies up to the
time that you did it?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been the biggie.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, that was Were you intimidated at all with, you know,
just the cast and the hugeness of it all and
the words you had to learn?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
No, not really, because I mean I was only like
eight years old and it was a big adventure for me.
I just turned up and you know, they were everyone
was really really great, very supportive. I think I was
one of the youngest on the set because most of
the Fagan's Fagan's guys Jack Wild, they were a lot
quite a bit older than me. I was like, they're
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all about fourteen fifteen, which is quite a big gap,
and so they they always kind of looked after me,
and you know, they were supportive. Yeah, so it wasn't
really very different.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Well, then I have a couple of questions. Do you
have something?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
I have a question?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, have I had a question? No? No, Yeah, it's
my turn.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Okay, I do have a question. I well, there's three
of us.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I do have a question.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I'm so curious about this. We all know historically that
that you didn't sing the songs in Olive were somebody
else did it for you? But my question is, did
you know you couldn't sing going into that movie and
they decided ahead of time we want this guy, we'll
sing for him, or was it later said, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I couldn't say it.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I couldn't dance either, So you say, yes, I know,
Actually it's not. It's not one hundred percent true because
what they did was in some of the songs thing
mixed my voice in with I think it was the
musical director and socause I can hear like parts of me.
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I couldn't hit the high notes, so they used the
daughter of.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
John Green? Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Anyway? So it's not I mean, yes, I remember games
the recording studio and having to do singing. So the
bits that I couldn't hear they kind of okay.
Speaker 8 (22:04):
So I now want to ask a triviua go ahead, Sorry, question,
hey Mark, I'm curious about the girl Kathy So, after
she did this successful singing in the Oliver movie, did
she go on to have a singing career or do
anything with that or was that just a one off?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
To be honest, I don't know. I've not really heard
it was Kathy Green, wasn't I think John Green was
the musical director.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I I.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Haven't heard anything about her, so I don't think she
if she did go on to do anything, I certainly
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's just curious about it.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Okay, So thank you Robert.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay as a two parter. First, is I know this
in my ear about your the Try.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
I had probably I don't know six copies of that
album that I wore out. And I don't know if
you know this, but the Cowcils we had a we
were on a seer of variety show called Craft Music
Hall and Jack Wild he was the special guest.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I've seen the YouTube pip of it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Sweaters.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, I love it. It was really really good. It
is so all the seventies, wasn't it. Oh wow, it
was brilliant.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, seriously, you must understand that we have just probably
come from the from.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
The theater a month ago. Again, you know, it was
it was all in.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Real time, so we were I was beside myself, except
for it was Jack and not you, at which point
he spent a good deal of his time messing with me,
telling me you were horrible, rotten, awful, the worst of
the character.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Yeah, well of course you you know, just being a boy.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You're laughing. But it was really upsetting to me. He
got me crying and enjoy because, oh my gosh, oh
my gosh, it's right. I loved you. But here's a
question about the audio, and you might not remember it.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
And this is such a geeky fan thing, but one
of the things I think you're singing is.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Just thinking of growling fact.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
And it doesn't sound like the little Girl to me
in my ear, in my head. So I'd like for
you to go back and identify all the parks you
sang and get back to me.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I think my ear is so tuned to it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Go ahead, guys, let me say one quick thing. You
can have him, Mark, Susan is eight years old in
nineteen sixty eight when this movie comes out. Okay, yeah,
and now we're kind of famous too, so we have
an NBC special. The songs from Oliver were so ingrained
in us that we even put consider Yourself in our
TV special with Susan and her little brothers wa washing
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a Saint Bernard Dog.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I love it and the movie. And then we go
on Playboy After Dark, which is you ns Tevie show,
and Supan is singing where is Love? Like like you
did it because she wants to bond with you that night.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I love it, and it actually talked them into doing
I never got my way on anything.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Mark.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
I was eight and I remember just saying I want
to sing where is Love?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And everybody went, what.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Everything's on YouTube? Before?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh god, Paul, Now you go ahead, Bob, Okay, quick
question about twelve Oscar nominations. Now, I'm just curious. It's
such a big movie A sixty eight. Did they get
to did you all get to come to Hollywood or
New York wherever it was and have a table and
the whole cast from Oliver is there at the Academy
Awards or did you just hear about it at home?
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Oh god, no, I was there. I actually gave on
a white hir Oscar. I went on stage. Oh my god, Oscar.
So I got. I was there. They put us up.
I remember we also at the Beverly Wheelshire Hotel in
LA and they the Columbia it was. They had cars
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for us. I'd never known anything like it. So we
had our own. I mean why I used to go
on the bus when I was back back in England
and I had my own like chauffeur. This was brilliant.
And Jack. Jack had his room and he figured out
that everything was like on Columbia. So he figured out
that he could order from the local toy store and
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I remember he ordered all these hot wheels and he
had a whole room full of hot wheels cars. And
he said, Mark, Mark, all you have to do is
ring down to reception and contact this toy store and
they'll send anything you want. And I was like, well,
I better not do. I'll get into really big, big
trouble anyway, So I didn't, but Jack did, and he
had all the I remember, all these hot wheel he
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must have had the entire catalog of hot wheels in
his room, and it was so we spent a lot
of time using these little cars round and round on
the tracks.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh my gosh, that is incredible. And so this kind
of leads me to my question.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I was going to ask if if Jack, when you
guys were working and stuff, was he a mischievous kind
of guy?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Did he ever get you in trouble?
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Because he came and he stayed with us in Santa Monica,
California for a while. He was over here, and my
dad and the manager or something knew each other. So
Jack was staying with us and we were in our
rehearsal hall and you know, and all of a sudden,
Jack lights up a cigarette and dude, it was like
it blew our minds.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
It threw our minds.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
He was pretty is it cheat? Yeah? I was about right?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Okay, Okay, so Jack, I mean the Jack that we
got is the Jack that you you got?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Were you guys good pals?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah? Oh god, yeah, I mean although obviously he was
quite a bit older, as we got older than at
the age gap narrows. So with his first wife, Gainer,
they had a really lovely house sort of in just
outside London, and quite often we at weekends we would
have they'd have big parties there. So jacobee I think
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he got married. He would have been about twenty two
or something awesome, and then I'm then by about fourteen fifteen,
and he used to have these great parties and then
we would play cowboys and Indians and he'd have we'd have
because of course we don't have guns, well we used
well we don't have guns like you guys have over there,
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so we'd have like these things called air guns and
we'd fire.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But it was.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Crazy because we were like firing each other, and I mean,
god knows how there wasn't a serious injury because no
one seemed to chair for wild Wild Yeah, well yeah,
we were pretty wild in those days. But we all
came out of it, Okay.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, absolutely, I think anyway, we had some troubles and.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
The end of you I'm sorry, Bob, what do you got?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, I'm just saying Jack and you you were. Jack
did your own movie together shortly after Oliver. I think
they did Melody together.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, that's right. We did Melody, which it's funny actually
because it's a nice movie but with music by the Beat. Yeah,
it's a nice little bit. It just kind of went
under the radar this country, but it was a huge,
huge hit in Japan, of all places, and the Far East.
So I've been to Japan many, many times on the
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back of that movie. A couple of recently, a couple
of years ago, they did a fifty year anniversary of
the movie, and I went over to Tokyo where they
had some screenings of it, and there were people were
I mean just coming up and literally crying and saying
how much it changed their lives. And well, it was
(29:53):
a nice movie, but I don't know if it's life changing.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
So that's our Jane Susan's life.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Stop it.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I wouldn't have flown to Japan, Yes I would have. No,
I wouldn't have, but I did. I mean, it was
under the radar, but not if you were a Mark
Lester fan. There was a group of us we knew
Run Wild, Run Free.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
That's okay.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Now I'm a horse girl. Now remember I'm just a
little girl, and I have a huge crush on you.
So I'm following you to every movie. You're gonna go
to Run Wild, Run Free.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I'm going to leave home because he has.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
He lives out in the wilderness with this horse where
I want to live with him and the rest of
the world will go away.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
We'll ride this one horse he's got.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
And so, but you did a lot of stuff, man,
you didn't just and and there's some stuff later that
I'm going to now go retro look for.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
But you can ask a question about the Oscars, because
were you nominated for Supporting Actor?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
No, I wasn't. Jack Laws, Oh Jack was. And Ron
Mood he was psyched, was nominated for No, he was fakant.
He was nominated. He was nominated for Best Actor, which
I think he lost out to Ernest borg Dane. I
think that, yeah, who I work with later in later
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another movie.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
But who what You're up there on stage with everyone
who won what?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
In that?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
I think Oliver got Best Picture, the best I think, right,
best Director? You're right, well, I don't think any of
the actors got anything. But it got Best Musical Music Score.
It was pretty big. I think. I remember I was
sitting next to Barbara streisand you know, at the front
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of the thing, and of course I'm only a little kid,
and I'm like ten, so I didn't really know who
any of you know really who any of these people were.
And I remember we we I did know because we
bumped into Tony Curtis and the drug store opposite the
Beverly Wilshire Hotel, and he was such a nice guy.
(32:06):
And I'm not even sure whether he was the Oscars.
He was just in the drug store buying.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Oh wow, probably would I know it was?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
It was? But then I think it's I don't know
if it's changed. I haven't been back since then. But
it was really glamorous back in the day.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The glamour left. I think somewhere in the early seventies,
the glamour part.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I think the glamour did. I don't. I think it's
now a kind of the red carpet seems to be
a sort of a showcase for like mostly political agenda now,
which is a bit bit of a shame.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Can I may I ask a couple of Ron Moody.
Was he a cool guy? Was he fun or not fun? Oh?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Ron was great. He was very very serious. He was
he was a very serious, kind of method type actor,
but he was. He's a lovely man. In fact, we
last he's dead now. But we went to Chicago for
one of these signing things, and and Shaney was there,
(33:17):
Jenny Wallace, Nancy, Ron Moody, Fagin and myself and we
we spent about three or four days in Chicago and
one of these not Comic Con, but it's similar.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Fan based me greetings there.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, that's right, people like I met Butcher Patrick there
from ours.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
Yes, we we do the you did one of the
chiller was it chiller?
Speaker 3 (33:45):
I did a chiller yees in New York. That was
great fun. There's a lot of Yeah, it was great,
really good fun. I really enjoyed those things. Fantastic fun.
And we're all like mates and and uh yeah we
see old.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Friends and even guys like Butch.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I don't know about you, but we have found being
child stars.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
We all went to a school in Hollywood called Hollywood
Professional School. Butch Packers went there, All the Brady kids
went there, the Brady bunch, you know. And and what
I find through the years my brother John, our brother
John is in a band with Bill Moomey from the
Kid from Lost in Space.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Oh gosh, I love that show.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Well, they have a band, I know, don't you. Well,
it's like we're all we all have made it up
in the end. You know, we're all friends. We did
this together, we were kids. We're all ancient now, and
it's lovely for us. I mean we talked to Butch
all the time.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I mean he we just regards a friend of mine
on Facebook, but a post anything.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
He's a lovely cat. He was best friends with our brother.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Oh we chatsy. We had a I think we met.
That wasn't Chicago, that was I think that was in
Los Angeles when we did Hollywood wherever it is. The Yeah,
it was great, absolutely great.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
And then my.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
William I was going to say, my my my daughter
was absolutely in love with I'm trying to think of
his name. The guy was in the A team. Who
is Ace face face?
Speaker 6 (35:21):
Oh, the young the blonde guy. Come on, y'all, it
wasn't mister t And it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
It was it wasn't wasn't George. So it was the
other dude, cool, the other other dude, the cool one. Anyway,
she loved him. She, my daughter absolutely loved him. And
she heard that I was going to be in the
same room as him, so she said, oh, Dad, please
get his autograph. So I went over and I thought,
you know, I hate. I never asked people for but anyway,
(35:52):
I did it for her. So I said, would you
sign this? I'm trying to think of his name is anyway,
such a lovely guy. Not only his sign picture, he
he sends memorabilia for my daughter and he was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I'm going to get his mark.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
That's good. It's tough to do his name.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
We've got to give him a look.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
We're all over sixty five here and this is that season.
I got it, almost, said Dirk Benedict. Is that Dirk Benedict.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Benedict, Yeah, that's it. That's the guy. This guy really
lovely guy, sweet, lovely, lovely.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, yeah, No, Dirk was huge. He's eighty, y'all.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I know, I know, it's just I know it's it's
it's when I think that's the like the eighties and
all the seventies. It seems like it's about three weeks ago,
and I realized it's like thy years ago. The mirror
quite scary.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
It's very and I think you're awesome for getting your
daughter that autograph, young man. So now we've got to
take you you we make all these movies.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I got a question just because Mark, you've just been
busy as a sbian as an actor, and I'm always
curious because we laugh about our schooling. How did school
go for you because you were such a young actor.
I know they had those studio teachers and all that,
but did you feel like you got an education along
the way.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Were you able to go to regular school or college? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I did go to regular school, and my parents tried
to make them when I did my movies, they try
to time it, so it was mainly in the holidays
when vacation time.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Novel idea of parents.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah. But when I was when I did the movies,
and if I was, I always had a private tutor.
So when I went back to my kind of main school,
I was always well ahead because I obviously had on
one tuition.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Did your parents feel it was important that you kept
your education up.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
It's a legal requirement in in the UK. It must
be in the States as well.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
As well anybody.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Less.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
Yeah, it's just curious if your folks actually cared. It
sounds like they did because this is yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I mean, well they did, but also I had it
was a legal requirement, so I educases.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Yeah, okay, okay, question, So back to Oliver. I'm just
questioned about the people you were working with, because I mean,
who was was Oliver Reid, Bill Sikes? I think that
Billy was, okay.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Of course Oliver Reed.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, read No were you aware of the status of
these actors you're coming in with. These were pretty famous
at the time, and no, no.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I had no idea who any of them were, because
Oliver Reed was mainly an adult, right, not an adult actor,
not in the sense of adult movies. He was more
doing films that a child would not have watched, right,
were Wolf and uh and some high SMOOTHI is so,
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in fact, untill later I realized that Carolry was actually
his uncle. I didn't I didn't even know that.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
That's what I was going to ask you. Who the
director was was at first related to Oliver So that's
all kind of yes, Yes, he was nephew.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
The young lady who was Shaney's little gal pal.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Who is the Chelah White Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
She was lovely.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I thought she was so much.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I'm just gonna sit here and I got a quick one.
I got a quick one with all the production numbers. Yeah,
I mean yourself. It was like involves the whole community
in the on the movie. You know, so with all
the production numbers, did this movie take a long time
to film?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, it took a year because we didn't take years
of film. We did three months of rehearsal and then
nine months of shooting. Wow, I mean it's just you
couldn't do that now, I mean, you just you know,
it's would be impossible.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Did you all have a sense that you were working
on something special?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
No, Okay, well I kind of that's not true. I mean, yes, yes,
and no I didn't. I mean I was eight years old.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, you're very young, So.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
I knew that it was a big production, but I
had no idea that it would be exactly and how
popular it would be, even you know, fifty is nearly
sixty years on. So yeah, I had no idea of
the magnitude of it.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
And you went right in.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
You know, so that movie comes out, Mark, and all
of a sudden, you're in sixteen magazine. You're in all
these teen magazines, and you become like a teen idol. Really,
I mean, Susan was one of them. And so were
you feeling that as it happened? You know, I'm trying
to remember when it happened for us.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It was like, oh wow, we were in the same
magazines at.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
The same.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Great. How tigerbe Tiger Beat sixteen. I should have to
ask my mother in law, who's sitting across the room,
the room, what would the magazines even ten?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Tav barror, yeah, barah.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Mirrah, yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
You're in England getting wind of this.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You know we're over so and so so on.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
You come into these teen magazines and now you're directly
in my world.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I am so happy. And that's when Davy Jones got
pushed aside.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
I had an Asia appropriate boy to be a fan of,
and I could look, I'm not kidding. I sent away,
I got the eight by Tens, I had a scrap book.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
It was it's all that Mark.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
I'm sorry, you know you well, no, that's my mother
in law. My wife's actually up in London at the moment,
my mother and she's my wife's from from full Worth,
so she she but Eve her mom. I'm looking after
her for for a while, Brooks up in London.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
It's awesome, Okay, we got well, we must get you
from from your acting to your your your other career.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Bob, what do you go ahead?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Bob?
Speaker 2 (42:26):
You have well It's.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Like, I'm just curious. We all have our arc of
our career. We're still in ours, but it's not what
it used to be, of course, but you're going to change.
And I'm just curious. Did your did your acting career
naturally diminish and you picked up I'm a smart guy.
I like science and biology. Did the phone stop bringing
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or did you leave and say I've had enough of this,
I need to get a real life.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
How that all? That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Actually, I think what happened was the kind of work
tailed off. It was late seventies and so, and then
I did some stage stuff, which I really enjoyed, but
I got really bored with after about three three weeks
of repetitive doing the same thing on stage.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
It got bored of it.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
I did, because it becomes very monotonous, and you know,
I it was so it was fun. I did a
few things touring around UK, and then I just decided
that that it just wasn't really for me and I
wasn't prepared to sit by the phone and wait for work.
(43:41):
So my dad at the time had some restaurants, so
I kind of worked for him for a bit, just some.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
More capacity, just curious.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Oh, working to making coffees in the restaurant, They'll be
waiting at the tables and all sorts of things, running,
you know, to bread back and forwards from between the restaurants.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Got it.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
So while I was doing that, and then I started
doing martial arts, and in through the martial arts, I
got an interest in sports injury. So I was seeing
a lot of guys in competitions getting injured and no
one seemed to know what to do. So I thought
it might be a good idea to get some sort
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of knowledge about sports injury. So I studied to be
an ousti path.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
Because everybody, I mean, I just couldn't. I couldn't just
flip that switch over.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Here when you're working for the restaurant or you're getting
a lot of a lot of Hey, Oliver Mark lest
what are you doing here? What's going on with you?
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Well?
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Yes, and now I me, yeah, I did get yeah,
people coming in and asking fulls grass and stuff. But
I know I did in the English very kind of
very reserved. I remember being at a bus stop once
and some girls, it's probably just after I did Oliver them,
some girls just going into town and sitting at the
buck Stop Bustop and there's three girls came up and said,
(45:15):
you're mart Lestra, aren't you? And I went, no, no, not,
and they went, yes you are, Yes, you are. And
after about five minute, I said, oh, yes I am,
and they went they you're not. They're not.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
No, you can't. Yeah, fans were a whole other thing.
Listen to me, I'm one, but I'm not like that.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
He listen.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I got out of a cab once in Hawaii and
they insisted I looked like I was done of it,
and they would not accept And I was famous at
the time as the councils, and they still didn't accept it.
And they asked me to sign Donovan's name and I
kind of did it. I said, I guess that's craziest
thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You're funny. I'm not here. Well I am. That's a
good I know.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
The more you deny it, the more they think that
you're that you really are.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
And Mark did Mark, it's funny.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
And I wonder again, how how you were feeling it,
if you ever got a feeling or a notion that it.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Was out there happening.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
But but when that movie ended, and look at we
must have seen that movie nine times, Oliver, the whole
big thing.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
We kept running up to people and we would go,
you want more, you know, the whole more thing?
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Please?
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Did that follow you around?
Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
It still does.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
In fact, this afternoon, this afternoon I went I know
it's early this morning your time, but this afternoon I
went over to a school at local school, but they're
actually doing a production of Oliver, and I spoke to
all the kiddies there and they did ask that question about, well,
what was my favorite lie in the movie? And I
(46:56):
think that it has to be, doesn't that really?
Speaker 6 (46:59):
Yeah, it's like our life with hair.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Oh my god, we loved it, Bob. Were you ever
able to all of you?
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Were you ever able years later to have a reunion,
let's say, or some kind of get together where you
all celebrated your your great victory.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
In that movie?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah? Well, they did do a bb I think the
BBC or ITV in here in the UK did a
or BBC not very popular at the moment. I think
it must have been ITV. Anyway, don't worry about it.
I don't. I'm buying Donald so.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Behind me, my flowers in the backyard.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
So anyway, yeah, they did is.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
There a recording of it.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
It probably is.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
It's done.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
It must have been about fifteen years ago. Jack was there,
Ron was there, Shaney was there.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Was she wonderful?
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Oh he's great. I mean she lives near you guys.
Where is she in? Uh? We got to get Santa Barbara.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
We got to get ahold of Jack.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
No, Jack, Jack Jack, I ain't with us anymore.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
Oh, I didn't know that Jack passed?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
What like that was about? Like when was that?
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Mark?
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Like quite a long time ago, I say about No, No,
we took him like two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
He didn't make that reunion.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Okay, three two thousand and four.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
I think that was a long time ago. I've lost track.
Jack went down. You know Jack was Jack.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
Two thousand and six, I think, yeah, wow, Yeah, poor Jack. Yeah,
he got quite ill and yeah, yeah it was it
was unfortunately downward trajectory for him.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
So you you have chosen academia and you're going to
focus on sports medicine. Is that your life today? Is
that what you do?
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
I'm yeah. I mean my main interest was getting in
through the sports injury aspects of it. But I mean, yeah,
I do see sports people, but it's in general I
guess i'd be more like a chiropractor would be in
in in the US. So you know, I'm seeing a
lot of neck and back injuries mainly. That will be
(49:29):
you got anything you.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Got into acupuncture right or something? Yeah, I love it,
I do.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
I do that along with the manipulations. Yeah, it seems
to work quite well together.
Speaker 6 (49:42):
It's so, is there are there physicians in your family?
Or did you just lateral that way because.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
You were going that was just me? I don't know.
Maybe been my great great great grandfather. I don't know,
but I'm the only one.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Okay, Well, Mark, we got to let you go.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
You know it's getting late in England.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I know it's dark here, you believe at four o'clock
in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (50:10):
I want to tell you this has been a bucket
list I didn't know I had.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So it has been a huge pleasure for me to
meet you.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Well, it's been a great pleasure for me to meet
all of you, and especially you of course, and thank
you for having me on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
One last question.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
We loved you, Mark, We all loved you so much.
They love you as much as I do.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
They know you.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Sweet.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
One last thing, are you doing any acting or you
just just hanging in the medical field.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
No, I'm just hanging in the medical field. So unless
maybe we actually even I've been watching this thing called
Tulsa King. We absolutely love it. So if Sylvester Sloane
wants to, you know, put in one of these things,
I will do it because we love invest That's something.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
We should write him. Mark.
Speaker 6 (51:07):
You should say, Mark Lester here, I've been watching your
show and I would come out of retirement.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
I would love I wish, I wish for him.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Think about it.
Speaker 4 (51:18):
I have one last question, Mark, I'm just curious in
your life after Oliver, were you ever asked to or
did you ever perform as a singer? You know, a
decent version of Where Is Love? Or by saying I
couldn't do in the first place.
Speaker 6 (51:40):
If you'd like to see my version, it's out there
on Playboy after Dark of all things, because that's where
girl belongs.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
It's a lovely right. But that was my choice, was
the song.
Speaker 4 (51:52):
But I only asked that because we come from a world,
the music world, where if a group loses its lead singer,
somebody else in that group usually steps forward and says,
I'm the lead singer now, and done, but that doesn't
really work in your business.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
I know you're all female, exactly lucky you know she's
still there.
Speaker 6 (52:12):
Yeah, absolutely, all right, Mark Lester, We're gonna let you go. Say,
give your mom in law hug for me. And that's
a nice you got going back there.
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Love to Brook everything all right, fask you much?
Speaker 5 (52:27):
Okay, everybody, We hope you enjoyed visiting with us today.
We definitely had a blast visiting with you, don't forget.
Each episode of the Cowles podcast is available to download
on demand.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
So please subscribe and give us a rating thumbs up.
Speaker 5 (52:44):
You can also follow the Coucles on Facebook and atcoucil
dot com and of course we will see you in concert.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
And on the road.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
Until then, let's.
Speaker 5 (52:54):
Stay in touch by tuning in each week for another
episode of the Couci podcast.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
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