May 22, 2024 • 32 mins
In the VERY first episode, I'll be talking about the who, what, where, and why's of this new podcast journey and introducing myself and what not. I feel like its gonna be a good start. Please tell me if its trash 😂..I'm willing to learn and grow. This is OUR podcast. I'm here for yall, we're here for each other. Let laugh, learn, and let it out.I'm excited that we are finally here! Let's go Fam!!!Call to action: Help the podcast grow! PLEASE like, comment, share, and subscribe!Special Show Notes:Visit the official Creative IN Process Podcast Website and send your questions/thoughts in to be included and answered in future episodes, join the email list for special show updates & alerts, and to stay connected.
Theme Song: In Process written/performed by Nialand
Produced by: Darrell Banks + DJ Pain1
Background Music: Lofi Retro Girl
CreativeINProcess.com CreativeInProcessPodcast@gmail.com
- Follow me on Instagram @NialandMusic
- Follow the podcast's Instagram @CreativeInProcessPodcast
Theme Song: In Process written/performed by Nialand
Produced by: Darrell Banks + DJ Pain1
Background Music: Lofi Retro Girl
CreativeINProcess.com CreativeInProcessPodcast@gmail.com
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
[music]
(00:12):
[music]
(00:39):
[music]
What's up, y'all! It is finally here!
Oh my God! Welcome to a creative and processed pie-cass!
That sounds so plain to say, like this is the first one,
(01:02):
and I'm so excited, I'm so happy that you're here.
That you decided to tune in, I ever came across this pie-cass,
you're here now, and I'm so grateful and I'm so thankful and just welcome, welcome, welcome!
My name is Niela and in case you didn't know, I'm gonna be your host going forward.
This is a passion project of mine to be able to do this, and I'm just,
(01:26):
I'm just really excited that you're here for this, so I wanted to kind of spend this first episode
just explaining what's creative and processed pie-cass is, how it can be,
and share some of my own, while I was created so that you'll be able to get a better understanding
going forward on while I'm doing what I'm doing and how we moving, how we moving.
(01:47):
But again, thank you so much for being here, this was no small feat to get to this point,
and I don't know how far we're gonna go, I don't know how big it's gonna get,
I don't know how long it's gonna last, but all I know is you are here and you're a real one for.
Check it out and just see what it's all about and I appreciate you for that, so.
For those that may not know me, some of you all know me, some of you all don't,
(02:10):
so I just kind of dabble in that, you'll get to know me more or more either way as time goes on
as I share more, but just for those who have no idea who I am in, what this is,
I am Niela and I am a full-time independent singer, songwriter, artist, performer,
and just all around creative, individual, and I've been doing my music thing
for many, many, many, many, many, many, many years, and this is just another branch of my creativity
(02:37):
expressing myself through conversation, which is something I love to do.
I love to run my mouth, and as a songwriter, I have a lot to say,
but sometimes I like to leave my songs on the table for you as a listener to interpret
and to get what you want out of the songs on your own, so some of stuff I don't share directly
(02:58):
in my music. A lot of it I do, but you listen hard to, you'll get to know more about my personality
just to listen to my music, but I have a lot of beautiful conversations on a day-to-day basis
and a lot of times I'll be talking with someone, a friend or just even someone that I met just in passing
and it's like, man, this could have been a recorded conversation because this is really really good.
So the podcast partly came from that space of me wanting to be able to expand some of these interior conversations
(03:23):
that I have in my everyday life with you because I know that it can relate to different life styles,
different ways that people kind of move through life.
And, you know, some things aren't talked about as much, and I'm very much a push-to-blood
and push-to-blood type of person, so I like to get in there and talk about the less common,
the less popular topics, the less trendy things, and kind of go for there.
(03:47):
So, as a singer/songwriter in 2019, I came up with this project called Inside Out.
It was a visual documentary/interview/music/video/performance thing that I did,
which you could check out on YouTube. It'll be in the show notes as well.
But this project came out in 2019 at the end of 2019, and of course, the next year was 2020,
(04:10):
and I don't have to tell you what happened in 2020 because it was a lot more than on.
And as a creative person, the plans that I had for Inside Out, you know, fell short
because of those things I couldn't do obviously because we were all locked down and all the things were going on.
So, Inside Out did not get the space that I believe that it deserved for the type of project that it was.
(04:31):
And Inside Out basically was not just me just, you know, being on camera and singing and that kind of thing,
but it was really a conversation about my music journey and how it fused with my person,
from start to current, or start to middle to current, you know, where I've been,
what's been going on all the way in through where I'm at now.
(04:53):
It's just a different revelations that I had to come to.
So, it's not about like, hey, I performed here, I sung this song, I did that.
It's not like a breakdown of my music catalog. It's not about that.
It's about the internal things that I went through as an artist, you know,
finding my identity and, you know, having those moments of insecurity and how I came from being so fixated on acceptance
(05:17):
and what people thought that it stopped me from being my full self as a creative artist.
And so, that project was really special to me because since it was released,
a lot of people, a lot of creative individuals have come to me and just shared how much it affected them
because they can relate to just feeling like number one, you can't be successful in your uniqueness and your creativity
(05:41):
because there are so many things that you're competing with on the outside and just having to go through that identity crisis
and figuring out yourself.
So, I highly recommend that you do check it out.
But that was kind of the starting point that led us to this creative and process podcast
because there are tons of things that I wanted to do.
I'm dizzled and dabbled in some of the experiences having live in person conversations with creative artists and, you know,
(06:05):
kind of digging more into the deeper conversations about being a creative and how it affects your everyday life
and how life itself affects your ability to be a creative.
So, all of those things, all of those things, and it brought me to this point.
So, now this is kind of me stretching out and giving inside out the attention that I believe that it deserves
and going beyond that because there's even so much more to get into beyond that place.
(06:31):
So, that's why we're here.
So, this podcast is for everybody.
I believe that you can get anything from the podcast.
You can get anything from what I'm intending to present.
But I want to first give this as a love letter and a gift to my fellow artistic creators.
I want to just say creative people because in your honest, we are all creative in some kind of way.
(06:55):
Like it takes creativity to figure out what you go where every day.
It takes creativity to figure out how you go get your car from one point to the other.
You only got $5 and your car all e, you know, so it takes creativity to crinkly think and all that kind of stuff.
So, it's for everybody.
But a lot of the conversation is about how everyday life affects the creative.
(07:19):
A lot of times when creative people get together, artistic creative people, it's more about like,
"Oh, what are you working on? What do you do? How do you do what you do?"
And we can go on and on and on talking about how we do what we do.
But behind that, it's like, how did you get to where you are from the standpoint of like,
where did you get your confidence from or lack thereof or what you're dealing with
(07:43):
that's holding you back from getting to the next place?
There are a lot of conversations surrounding that we just don't have because people see the finished product.
They see the beautiful artistic creation but they don't know how many times you want to quit.
How many people weren't supporting you? How many people were more difficult for you to get to where you're going
and how you just struggle with feeling like you were worthy enough and all of that kind of stuff.
(08:08):
So, I am a bit of a deep thinker.
I think that life itself is, we're going to always be trying to figure something out or get more information
or explore the depths of life.
And I am one who loves to investigate human behavior.
Even from the more shallow things like, do seriously, like, what made you do that?
(08:30):
Like, that was dumb all the way into, like, wow, what made you think of that?
That's actually really brilliant.
So, I like to consider human behavior and a lot of things.
And so, I think if I wasn't a music artist, maybe I would have been some kind of psychologist studying human behavior in the brain and that kind of thing.
But, while I am thoughtful in that way, I do like to have a lot of fun.
(08:53):
I'm known for my sense of humor.
So, sometimes, you know, I could be a little funny.
Not trying to, but, you know, I like to joke too.
So, this is not going to be super deep in, you know, you're not going to go through your deepest trauma episode.
Like, we're going to help and heal and move forward and laugh and cry and all that stuff.
(09:14):
And we're digging into everything.
Like, this isn't just music and how you created your artistic project.
And you can't work with that dance and make that film.
We're talking about relationships, personal relationships, romantic relationships, business partnerships, friendships.
We're talking about health and wellness and, you know, personal issues and highs.
(09:37):
And all that.
We're digging into all of that.
But, I'll just say, it's bomb only going to be as much as you want it to be because I want to really spread this out and extend it to you.
The listener to be able to experience creative and process podcast along with me.
So, while it's just me on camera right now, I want it to be a conversation.
There will be guests, some really amazing ones that are already in my back pocket that I'm excited for you to see.
(10:03):
And just kind of see me in this space because if you do know me at any capacity, you know, you know the music, you know how I present it, how I perform and that kind of thing.
But I do like to talk.
And another thing about it is like, I will not say that this was like the thing to do because if we're honest, there are a million and five podcasts.
There's a podcast about everything.
So, I was actually apprehensive about doing this because in my mind, I'm like, everybody doing the podcast, why would anybody want to listen to me do this?
(10:30):
But this came to me with deep conviction. So, like really do something like this, just from conversations that I have with my fellow artist friends and just seeing people give up on their dreams and all of the psychological stresses that come with being in this space.
So, for me, it was important to get this out.
(10:51):
And I felt like this is a way to do it to express in this kind of way.
So, I will say that I believe that when it comes to podcasts, a lot of times, a lot of people use this microphone and the cameras or whatever as an amplifier to basically spew their personal grievances about situations that are not for the sake of helping others is more about like you just trying to get this off.
(11:15):
You don't get off your chest and that sort of thing, which is cool, but I feel like it's got to be a purpose behind it.
So, if you know anything about me and how I do, what I do, everything has a reason.
I'm not doing stuff because it's popular, I'm not just doing stuff because everyone else is doing it and the same thing is working.
Everything has a reason and a purpose. And so, I assure you, and you can hold me accountable to this, that this is not a space for me to talk about my personal jabs that I want to throw at people by way of my success or by way of my platform.
(11:46):
That's not what this is. I really want to share stories and encourage and even be encouraged because I know that it's bigger than me and there are people out there that have enlightenment and have encouragement that maybe I haven't either tapped into yet.
You know, this is just a space where I want you to feel safe and I want you to enjoy whether you're driving to work, whether you're at home, relaxing, you taking a walk or whatever the case may be.
(12:12):
I hope that this is the space that you feel like you want to come to to get, you know, a portion of what you need to continue to move forward in your purpose and in your journey and whatever it is that you do.
But because I am a creative artist, that's kind of where I start from because that's an expertise that I have. I can stand behind the things that I say because I walk them out and they're things that I'm still learning.
(12:34):
So as time goes on, even with this podcast, things are going to change like the setting is going to change, you know, the look of things is going to change and all of that stuff.
So it's all a process, even this so this in itself is a testament to why I'm doing what I'm doing because you may be out there trying to figure out how to move forward and something that you have going on.
And, you know, you can see me kind of processing in real time because it is a process everything all the way until it's over and done and we're in the lobby here every day is a process to get to the next thing.
(13:02):
So you have to kind of be willing to go through that and not try to skip ahead and and all that. So hopefully you're excited to be here as excited as I am to have you.
I'm looking forward to so many things that I want to share and give to you and all of that kind of stuff. So like let's have a conversation.
I am a bit extra, I believe when I do stuff, but not extra in the way that it's unnecessary. I think it's a good extra.
(13:26):
So just be be ready for just stuff happening that is like out the box because that's just where I live. I live outside the box for sure.
Those are the main things I want to cover to kind of get this creating a process podcast off to the right starting get this first episode going.
One of the things I do want to share though as it relates to us having a conversation and being a part of a conversation.
(13:47):
If you go to the creative and process website, which is creative and process calm, all of that will be listed in the show note. You can get all of those links.
You'll be able to see a send a note button send a voicemail. So with the voicemail, what I wanted to be able to do was allow you to be able to talk back.
So that can be feedback about the podcast.
What you want to see more of what you want to hear more of different things like that questions about certain topics or just topics in general that you want to bring to the forefront.
(14:17):
And some of those will play live on the podcast or you know, we'll answer certain questions and things of that sort.
But you can go to the website even right now.
Drop that note because I would love to know what you thought about episode one and you can leave your feedback or your questions or comments or whatever. And then I'll keep those for the episodes to come to.
(14:38):
So I have a few different segments that I'm working on and all of that. But ultimately just keep me posted. Let me know how you feeling it and all of that kind of stuff.
This is the very humble beginning.
Like I said, this is not something that I just rush to do because I just felt like, ooh, let me go do a podcast and then by doing podcast, it's not how I roam.
So very intentional and I intend to be very intentional about this thing. So with that being said, I'm a leave you for now.
(15:02):
But I want to leave you with the deeper impression of why created in process podcast was created.
And like I mentioned before, I had my project called Inside Out that I released a few years ago. I'm going to leave you with an exclusive listen because portions of this particular interview inside out was released to the public.
(15:23):
But there's a lot that was left out just for sake of editing and that sort of thing. But I want to give you the full interview from the Inside Out project to just kind of give you a deeper inside look at my thought process, my experience.
And hopefully it's something that you can relate to something that encourages you.
Y'all stay tuned. Like sometimes you have like a full vision of things in your head and you want to like really get people to understand how deep it gets.
(15:51):
But you can only say so much. You can only show so much.
So I'll say if you have enjoyed even this conversation so far, please come back because there's so much more that I can't even begin to express to you.
And overall, I just want you to have a space that you can come to. So dear creative from one creator to another is going to be okay.
There's so much in you that needs to get out. And I hope that this experience, this podcast journey, this season of this podcast for however long it's intended to last.
(16:21):
I hope that is something that feeds you and helps you to open up and express and be more of your beautiful self because the world needs exactly what you have specifically from you.
So I'm excited to get started. So with that being said, I'm going to leave you with an excerpt from my inside our project.
Listen to it. Check it out. If you're on YouTube, watch the clip. And I'm looking forward to see you in the next episode.
(16:46):
I turned my light down and I shrunk from my peers and for everyone that I looked up to and was made to feel that who I thought I was was in who actually was.
And I didn't even know it was what was in me. I know there's always been more in me, but I let people places and things define me to the point where I stop being who I knew I was deep, you know, on inside of me.
(17:16):
But I didn't have enough affirmation to help me to know that it was okay to be who I was in my uniqueness and my difference in the things that made me me.
Music was something that I used as a tool to just help me heal when I felt alone because I didn't always feel that everything and everyone around me understood me to the point where I could just be free and be myself.
(17:44):
So I turned that into songs and poetry and things that I would write that was just like my time between me and guy when I felt like I didn't have anybody else.
And I got to a point where because it wasn't the norm or the things that I thought to do or the way that I expressed myself wasn't what everyone was doing.
(18:09):
Somehow I got lost in the shuffle and stopped believing that it was right for me.
And I shrunk, I dim my light and now I'm at a place of recognizing that and understanding that who I am is purposeful.
And I was on stages and singing and recording and doing all these things for you all, but doing it from a very broken place because I didn't know if it was good enough.
(18:38):
It was just all that I had to give, but it didn't look like what anybody else was doing.
And some people that I surround myself with or just wanting to be a firm so bad that I didn't care whether or not I was getting positive or negative feedback, I guess you could say.
(18:59):
I just wanted to be accepted and if that meant I didn't have to or if that meant not being who I was, I just took that instead and just allow myself to be less than who I was to satisfy the masses.
And from that I realized how much I was bleeding on my purpose and even though I was out and being active, I was doing it from a place of discouragement and fear and discontentment and all of those things.
(19:31):
And that wasn't that's not what purpose is. And so now recognizing that I'm able to grab hold to what's in me and embrace it and know that what I have and what I have to give is specific for certain culture of people that will receive it and be encouraged by anything that I do.
(19:55):
So mainly at this point I really want to give encouragement to those who, especially those that are creative because sometimes when we're creative, we give inside our heads a lot and we are worse critics and we don't always embrace that there's something in us that is not in anybody else.
(20:19):
So it's important to believe on that and to really stand true in who you are and know your identity and go for it.
And I tend to like personally just not really share, I try to share it through the music as much as possible but there was a point where I just stopped caring.
(20:40):
And I was just, was existing and I wasn't doing what I love to do from the right place because I didn't know who wanted it. I didn't know who was an accepted.
And I had to resolve that there is a sound that's in me, there is something that's in me that is for specific people to be encouraged by.
(21:02):
And I can no longer sit in the opinions of everybody else, I can't be who everyone else wants me to be. And I'm okay with that now and I'm grateful for this place of revelation to really just walk in my identity and walk in who I am.
So my music, everything that I have is coming from a place of honeness now where before it came from obligation and it's a very freeing place and I'm so grateful to be here and it took a lot of self-evaluation examination to get to this place.
(21:38):
Basically I just want to share that it's so necessary to embrace who you are and to know who you are and to walk it out because there are so many ways that you can be there's access to every kind of identity in the world but there's only one you.
And so you have to be willing to be brave enough to walk in who you are and not who anybody else is even if know what else seems to be okay with it, if knowing what else seems to understand it, there is a plan and a purpose and a place for exactly who you are.
(22:13):
So how do you say this, challenges, and this creative, like going through this far stage of coming out of obligation, going into person, do you still face challenges and how do you overcome them as you walk in person.
So just because I'm in this place of, or gotten to this place of revelation about my identity and who I am, it doesn't mean that I don't have moments or times where I don't really know what to do or what's next but I resolved and I've learned that it's so important to sit and that everything is not about moving because we're in a time where you can move and do so much of just post whatever your action is or whatever.
(23:02):
But I've learned the value of sitting still and waiting for the right timing of everything and that gave me the ability to thrive and everything that I do going forward because I don't feel the pressure of everything around me to just do.
I could just be present and wait for the right moments to do whatever it is that I need to do whatever is next. So I do have those moments where it's not always clear but I know now to not use that as a place to get deep into dark places.
(23:37):
I use that as a moment to sit and listen for that clarity.
I know, or that's created. I'm tackling in tune and encourage them to start to shine games and they then they're like, how do you recreate that light? What are that component?
(23:58):
There are a few things that go into like re-emerging in the right mindset because again we can do all kinds of things but be doing them with the wrong motor, with the wrong posture, with the wrong heart and all of that.
For anybody that feels like they are in a place where they want to break out and they don't really know how or they have things in them but they don't really feel like they're supported or that they don't have the resources or anything like that.
(24:27):
My encouragement to you is to pull yourself out of comparison because for me that's where that kind of like weight heavy on me to not compare yourself and to really identify who you are and like charge that against who yourself.
Like don't use that as a way to pair yourself with what everyone else is doing. Take joy in the things that encourage you and the thing that you're passionate about and walk out in those areas and not be okay with knowing that there may be something in you that no one else has ever done.
(25:04):
And walk that out and write that out and make sense of that and just go in space on the strength of that.
And it's super inspiring that you're able to speak about how you exactly let in a creative know like which like how that you created your activity is this this here you create.
(25:25):
What would you have about the question about come okay you said and then I would say because you mentioned as a visionary as a creative you have your mind set on how you want something to flow and you mentioned something earlier about today how you really didn't know where you were going to end up today like you just knew.
(25:53):
My all bits and pieces panel want you to expand on that as well as actually was mentioning about creating an opportunity to how you kind of like create it this opportunity for yourself blinding him.
Okay.
I don't know if you can be number one.
I'm okay.
(26:14):
I don't know if something can happen.
Don't don't don't encourage it that okay.
So even being here today and oh my god you really do this he can you love you even being here in this space in this time like there were moments where like I remember being in my car
(26:36):
not too long ago and I was just listening to random music on my phone and some of my own music came up on my playlist and I just started.
I didn't really know why but I began to really reflect on it and I realized how much of myself I dismissed where I came from because I let life tell me that who I was and what I been through was not good enough it wasn't what's happened and what was popular and I let that sink into my spirit and caused me to stop moving because I didn't have any language for what I was.
(27:14):
And at the time no one around me really helped me get clarity for that or if they did it they turned it you know another way they played on insecurity and caused me to just straight up like discourage myself but I began to listen to this music and you know I just tried you know he just start to share with me how I dismissed where I came from and how necessary where I was is to where I'm at and that I needed to acknowledge and honor the past not that I was in the past.
(27:43):
The past not that I have to be a product of the past but to honor it because what I went through is for someone else who's either in it or going to go through it and so even coming to this place once I had that moment in the car like God literally arrested me and just start telling me what you're going to do when you're going to do it who you're going to call and you know all of these bits and pieces that came together but at the same time I had to go strictly off faith because I had no context for it.
(28:12):
I didn't want to do like I don't want to be seen here talking to y'all why was that I want to be I mean it's cool I you know what I wasn't prepared to get in talking be vulnerable in this space and so I had to rely on my faith to just go and do it because it's for someone else.
So then in that way and vulnerable in this way do it.
(28:35):
Vulnerability is the key to creativity if you're not willing to be open you can't touch anything in somebody else will come from the heart reach of the heart and that's one thing that I was kind of blamed not to be was honest and though I
poured out my honesty in my words in my songs and I kind of would like put my stories in the songs and you know people would pass by and it would mention like man I heard the song you did and it really man it really touched me or whatever and that was my way out when when I couldn't do it in my life I did it in the songs and so when you're in when you're willing to break you're willing to break like you can break out once you break.
(29:20):
And so it's so necessary to just be open and honest not that you got to tell everybody's openness like that you know you be wise but you need to be open because you can't be open to vision into your soul clothes and and I will into be vulnerable about you know where you are and how you're feeling and all of that kind of stuff.
(29:43):
So how do you tackle your fears? At this point I stop fears at the door because they come and I think the problem is we we get we make ourselves at home with our fears and that causes us to sit with them so long that they become a problem but if we identify the fear when the fear comes and
(30:12):
cancel it out and you know because fears are lies if all they are so is whenever at this point if I feel like I feel a fear coming all about anything even you know doing stuff like this and what y'all getting ready to see.
I had to take myself out of that and cancel that out because it's like it's not real it's it's an illusion so I'm not going to give it any power to spend time with me and start to speak to me so I think that that is as creators where we need to check ourselves at the fear level because we need to identify
(30:51):
while we're letting fear get so comfortable to us in the first place so be fearless in all things for sure.
I'm now in this place where I am absolutely free to be me and it's completely unapologetic and I never always wanted to be at this place but I had no context on how to get there so I'm grateful to be here and I'm grateful to take everything that was stuck inside me and to get it out.
(31:19):
So I love you all and thank you for your continued support for those that have been following me through all of these years and I'm here to let you know today that is a brand new day and you're going to be seeing a lot more of me in a new way and I'm ready to go.
Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode if you want to learn more about the podcast you can go to creative in process.com where you can sign up for email alerts connect on social media and submit your feedback.
(31:48):
Thoughts and questions to have them included in the future episode. If you want to connect with me directly you can find me at NELN Music on all social media platforms and please like, comment, share, subscribe.
Tell somebody about this podcast because it only goes as far as you help it grow.
I'll see you next time. Thanks for tuning in. Peace out.
Peace out!
(32:10):
[MUSIC PLAYING]
[music]
(00:12):
[music]
(00:39):
[music]
What's up, y'all! It is finally here!
Oh my God! Welcome to a creative and processed pie-cass!
That sounds so plain to say, like this is the first one,
(01:02):
and I'm so excited, I'm so happy that you're here.
That you decided to tune in, I ever came across this pie-cass,
you're here now, and I'm so grateful and I'm so thankful and just welcome, welcome, welcome!
My name is Niela and in case you didn't know, I'm gonna be your host going forward.
This is a passion project of mine to be able to do this, and I'm just,
(01:26):
I'm just really excited that you're here for this, so I wanted to kind of spend this first episode
just explaining what's creative and processed pie-cass is, how it can be,
and share some of my own, while I was created so that you'll be able to get a better understanding
going forward on while I'm doing what I'm doing and how we moving, how we moving.
(01:47):
But again, thank you so much for being here, this was no small feat to get to this point,
and I don't know how far we're gonna go, I don't know how big it's gonna get,
I don't know how long it's gonna last, but all I know is you are here and you're a real one for.
Check it out and just see what it's all about and I appreciate you for that, so.
For those that may not know me, some of you all know me, some of you all don't,
(02:10):
so I just kind of dabble in that, you'll get to know me more or more either way as time goes on
as I share more, but just for those who have no idea who I am in, what this is,
I am Niela and I am a full-time independent singer, songwriter, artist, performer,
and just all around creative, individual, and I've been doing my music thing
for many, many, many, many, many, many, many years, and this is just another branch of my creativity
(02:37):
expressing myself through conversation, which is something I love to do.
I love to run my mouth, and as a songwriter, I have a lot to say,
but sometimes I like to leave my songs on the table for you as a listener to interpret
and to get what you want out of the songs on your own, so some of stuff I don't share directly
(02:58):
in my music. A lot of it I do, but you listen hard to, you'll get to know more about my personality
just to listen to my music, but I have a lot of beautiful conversations on a day-to-day basis
and a lot of times I'll be talking with someone, a friend or just even someone that I met just in passing
and it's like, man, this could have been a recorded conversation because this is really really good.
So the podcast partly came from that space of me wanting to be able to expand some of these interior conversations
(03:23):
that I have in my everyday life with you because I know that it can relate to different life styles,
different ways that people kind of move through life.
And, you know, some things aren't talked about as much, and I'm very much a push-to-blood
and push-to-blood type of person, so I like to get in there and talk about the less common,
the less popular topics, the less trendy things, and kind of go for there.
(03:47):
So, as a singer/songwriter in 2019, I came up with this project called Inside Out.
It was a visual documentary/interview/music/video/performance thing that I did,
which you could check out on YouTube. It'll be in the show notes as well.
But this project came out in 2019 at the end of 2019, and of course, the next year was 2020,
(04:10):
and I don't have to tell you what happened in 2020 because it was a lot more than on.
And as a creative person, the plans that I had for Inside Out, you know, fell short
because of those things I couldn't do obviously because we were all locked down and all the things were going on.
So, Inside Out did not get the space that I believe that it deserved for the type of project that it was.
(04:31):
And Inside Out basically was not just me just, you know, being on camera and singing and that kind of thing,
but it was really a conversation about my music journey and how it fused with my person,
from start to current, or start to middle to current, you know, where I've been,
what's been going on all the way in through where I'm at now.
(04:53):
It's just a different revelations that I had to come to.
So, it's not about like, hey, I performed here, I sung this song, I did that.
It's not like a breakdown of my music catalog. It's not about that.
It's about the internal things that I went through as an artist, you know,
finding my identity and, you know, having those moments of insecurity and how I came from being so fixated on acceptance
(05:17):
and what people thought that it stopped me from being my full self as a creative artist.
And so, that project was really special to me because since it was released,
a lot of people, a lot of creative individuals have come to me and just shared how much it affected them
because they can relate to just feeling like number one, you can't be successful in your uniqueness and your creativity
(05:41):
because there are so many things that you're competing with on the outside and just having to go through that identity crisis
and figuring out yourself.
So, I highly recommend that you do check it out.
But that was kind of the starting point that led us to this creative and process podcast
because there are tons of things that I wanted to do.
I'm dizzled and dabbled in some of the experiences having live in person conversations with creative artists and, you know,
(06:05):
kind of digging more into the deeper conversations about being a creative and how it affects your everyday life
and how life itself affects your ability to be a creative.
So, all of those things, all of those things, and it brought me to this point.
So, now this is kind of me stretching out and giving inside out the attention that I believe that it deserves
and going beyond that because there's even so much more to get into beyond that place.
(06:31):
So, that's why we're here.
So, this podcast is for everybody.
I believe that you can get anything from the podcast.
You can get anything from what I'm intending to present.
But I want to first give this as a love letter and a gift to my fellow artistic creators.
I want to just say creative people because in your honest, we are all creative in some kind of way.
(06:55):
Like it takes creativity to figure out what you go where every day.
It takes creativity to figure out how you go get your car from one point to the other.
You only got $5 and your car all e, you know, so it takes creativity to crinkly think and all that kind of stuff.
So, it's for everybody.
But a lot of the conversation is about how everyday life affects the creative.
(07:19):
A lot of times when creative people get together, artistic creative people, it's more about like,
"Oh, what are you working on? What do you do? How do you do what you do?"
And we can go on and on and on talking about how we do what we do.
But behind that, it's like, how did you get to where you are from the standpoint of like,
where did you get your confidence from or lack thereof or what you're dealing with
(07:43):
that's holding you back from getting to the next place?
There are a lot of conversations surrounding that we just don't have because people see the finished product.
They see the beautiful artistic creation but they don't know how many times you want to quit.
How many people weren't supporting you? How many people were more difficult for you to get to where you're going
and how you just struggle with feeling like you were worthy enough and all of that kind of stuff.
(08:08):
So, I am a bit of a deep thinker.
I think that life itself is, we're going to always be trying to figure something out or get more information
or explore the depths of life.
And I am one who loves to investigate human behavior.
Even from the more shallow things like, do seriously, like, what made you do that?
(08:30):
Like, that was dumb all the way into, like, wow, what made you think of that?
That's actually really brilliant.
So, I like to consider human behavior and a lot of things.
And so, I think if I wasn't a music artist, maybe I would have been some kind of psychologist studying human behavior in the brain and that kind of thing.
But, while I am thoughtful in that way, I do like to have a lot of fun.
(08:53):
I'm known for my sense of humor.
So, sometimes, you know, I could be a little funny.
Not trying to, but, you know, I like to joke too.
So, this is not going to be super deep in, you know, you're not going to go through your deepest trauma episode.
Like, we're going to help and heal and move forward and laugh and cry and all that stuff.
(09:14):
And we're digging into everything.
Like, this isn't just music and how you created your artistic project.
And you can't work with that dance and make that film.
We're talking about relationships, personal relationships, romantic relationships, business partnerships, friendships.
We're talking about health and wellness and, you know, personal issues and highs.
(09:37):
And all that.
We're digging into all of that.
But, I'll just say, it's bomb only going to be as much as you want it to be because I want to really spread this out and extend it to you.
The listener to be able to experience creative and process podcast along with me.
So, while it's just me on camera right now, I want it to be a conversation.
There will be guests, some really amazing ones that are already in my back pocket that I'm excited for you to see.
(10:03):
And just kind of see me in this space because if you do know me at any capacity, you know, you know the music, you know how I present it, how I perform and that kind of thing.
But I do like to talk.
And another thing about it is like, I will not say that this was like the thing to do because if we're honest, there are a million and five podcasts.
There's a podcast about everything.
So, I was actually apprehensive about doing this because in my mind, I'm like, everybody doing the podcast, why would anybody want to listen to me do this?
(10:30):
But this came to me with deep conviction. So, like really do something like this, just from conversations that I have with my fellow artist friends and just seeing people give up on their dreams and all of the psychological stresses that come with being in this space.
So, for me, it was important to get this out.
(10:51):
And I felt like this is a way to do it to express in this kind of way.
So, I will say that I believe that when it comes to podcasts, a lot of times, a lot of people use this microphone and the cameras or whatever as an amplifier to basically spew their personal grievances about situations that are not for the sake of helping others is more about like you just trying to get this off.
(11:15):
You don't get off your chest and that sort of thing, which is cool, but I feel like it's got to be a purpose behind it.
So, if you know anything about me and how I do, what I do, everything has a reason.
I'm not doing stuff because it's popular, I'm not just doing stuff because everyone else is doing it and the same thing is working.
Everything has a reason and a purpose. And so, I assure you, and you can hold me accountable to this, that this is not a space for me to talk about my personal jabs that I want to throw at people by way of my success or by way of my platform.
(11:46):
That's not what this is. I really want to share stories and encourage and even be encouraged because I know that it's bigger than me and there are people out there that have enlightenment and have encouragement that maybe I haven't either tapped into yet.
You know, this is just a space where I want you to feel safe and I want you to enjoy whether you're driving to work, whether you're at home, relaxing, you taking a walk or whatever the case may be.
(12:12):
I hope that this is the space that you feel like you want to come to to get, you know, a portion of what you need to continue to move forward in your purpose and in your journey and whatever it is that you do.
But because I am a creative artist, that's kind of where I start from because that's an expertise that I have. I can stand behind the things that I say because I walk them out and they're things that I'm still learning.
(12:34):
So as time goes on, even with this podcast, things are going to change like the setting is going to change, you know, the look of things is going to change and all of that stuff.
So it's all a process, even this so this in itself is a testament to why I'm doing what I'm doing because you may be out there trying to figure out how to move forward and something that you have going on.
And, you know, you can see me kind of processing in real time because it is a process everything all the way until it's over and done and we're in the lobby here every day is a process to get to the next thing.
(13:02):
So you have to kind of be willing to go through that and not try to skip ahead and and all that. So hopefully you're excited to be here as excited as I am to have you.
I'm looking forward to so many things that I want to share and give to you and all of that kind of stuff. So like let's have a conversation.
I am a bit extra, I believe when I do stuff, but not extra in the way that it's unnecessary. I think it's a good extra.
(13:26):
So just be be ready for just stuff happening that is like out the box because that's just where I live. I live outside the box for sure.
Those are the main things I want to cover to kind of get this creating a process podcast off to the right starting get this first episode going.
One of the things I do want to share though as it relates to us having a conversation and being a part of a conversation.
(13:47):
If you go to the creative and process website, which is creative and process calm, all of that will be listed in the show note. You can get all of those links.
You'll be able to see a send a note button send a voicemail. So with the voicemail, what I wanted to be able to do was allow you to be able to talk back.
So that can be feedback about the podcast.
What you want to see more of what you want to hear more of different things like that questions about certain topics or just topics in general that you want to bring to the forefront.
(14:17):
And some of those will play live on the podcast or you know, we'll answer certain questions and things of that sort.
But you can go to the website even right now.
Drop that note because I would love to know what you thought about episode one and you can leave your feedback or your questions or comments or whatever. And then I'll keep those for the episodes to come to.
(14:38):
So I have a few different segments that I'm working on and all of that. But ultimately just keep me posted. Let me know how you feeling it and all of that kind of stuff.
This is the very humble beginning.
Like I said, this is not something that I just rush to do because I just felt like, ooh, let me go do a podcast and then by doing podcast, it's not how I roam.
So very intentional and I intend to be very intentional about this thing. So with that being said, I'm a leave you for now.
(15:02):
But I want to leave you with the deeper impression of why created in process podcast was created.
And like I mentioned before, I had my project called Inside Out that I released a few years ago. I'm going to leave you with an exclusive listen because portions of this particular interview inside out was released to the public.
(15:23):
But there's a lot that was left out just for sake of editing and that sort of thing. But I want to give you the full interview from the Inside Out project to just kind of give you a deeper inside look at my thought process, my experience.
And hopefully it's something that you can relate to something that encourages you.
Y'all stay tuned. Like sometimes you have like a full vision of things in your head and you want to like really get people to understand how deep it gets.
(15:51):
But you can only say so much. You can only show so much.
So I'll say if you have enjoyed even this conversation so far, please come back because there's so much more that I can't even begin to express to you.
And overall, I just want you to have a space that you can come to. So dear creative from one creator to another is going to be okay.
There's so much in you that needs to get out. And I hope that this experience, this podcast journey, this season of this podcast for however long it's intended to last.
(16:21):
I hope that is something that feeds you and helps you to open up and express and be more of your beautiful self because the world needs exactly what you have specifically from you.
So I'm excited to get started. So with that being said, I'm going to leave you with an excerpt from my inside our project.
Listen to it. Check it out. If you're on YouTube, watch the clip. And I'm looking forward to see you in the next episode.
(16:46):
I turned my light down and I shrunk from my peers and for everyone that I looked up to and was made to feel that who I thought I was was in who actually was.
And I didn't even know it was what was in me. I know there's always been more in me, but I let people places and things define me to the point where I stop being who I knew I was deep, you know, on inside of me.
(17:16):
But I didn't have enough affirmation to help me to know that it was okay to be who I was in my uniqueness and my difference in the things that made me me.
Music was something that I used as a tool to just help me heal when I felt alone because I didn't always feel that everything and everyone around me understood me to the point where I could just be free and be myself.
(17:44):
So I turned that into songs and poetry and things that I would write that was just like my time between me and guy when I felt like I didn't have anybody else.
And I got to a point where because it wasn't the norm or the things that I thought to do or the way that I expressed myself wasn't what everyone was doing.
(18:09):
Somehow I got lost in the shuffle and stopped believing that it was right for me.
And I shrunk, I dim my light and now I'm at a place of recognizing that and understanding that who I am is purposeful.
And I was on stages and singing and recording and doing all these things for you all, but doing it from a very broken place because I didn't know if it was good enough.
(18:38):
It was just all that I had to give, but it didn't look like what anybody else was doing.
And some people that I surround myself with or just wanting to be a firm so bad that I didn't care whether or not I was getting positive or negative feedback, I guess you could say.
(18:59):
I just wanted to be accepted and if that meant I didn't have to or if that meant not being who I was, I just took that instead and just allow myself to be less than who I was to satisfy the masses.
And from that I realized how much I was bleeding on my purpose and even though I was out and being active, I was doing it from a place of discouragement and fear and discontentment and all of those things.
(19:31):
And that wasn't that's not what purpose is. And so now recognizing that I'm able to grab hold to what's in me and embrace it and know that what I have and what I have to give is specific for certain culture of people that will receive it and be encouraged by anything that I do.
(19:55):
So mainly at this point I really want to give encouragement to those who, especially those that are creative because sometimes when we're creative, we give inside our heads a lot and we are worse critics and we don't always embrace that there's something in us that is not in anybody else.
(20:19):
So it's important to believe on that and to really stand true in who you are and know your identity and go for it.
And I tend to like personally just not really share, I try to share it through the music as much as possible but there was a point where I just stopped caring.
(20:40):
And I was just, was existing and I wasn't doing what I love to do from the right place because I didn't know who wanted it. I didn't know who was an accepted.
And I had to resolve that there is a sound that's in me, there is something that's in me that is for specific people to be encouraged by.
(21:02):
And I can no longer sit in the opinions of everybody else, I can't be who everyone else wants me to be. And I'm okay with that now and I'm grateful for this place of revelation to really just walk in my identity and walk in who I am.
So my music, everything that I have is coming from a place of honeness now where before it came from obligation and it's a very freeing place and I'm so grateful to be here and it took a lot of self-evaluation examination to get to this place.
(21:38):
Basically I just want to share that it's so necessary to embrace who you are and to know who you are and to walk it out because there are so many ways that you can be there's access to every kind of identity in the world but there's only one you.
And so you have to be willing to be brave enough to walk in who you are and not who anybody else is even if know what else seems to be okay with it, if knowing what else seems to understand it, there is a plan and a purpose and a place for exactly who you are.
(22:13):
So how do you say this, challenges, and this creative, like going through this far stage of coming out of obligation, going into person, do you still face challenges and how do you overcome them as you walk in person.
So just because I'm in this place of, or gotten to this place of revelation about my identity and who I am, it doesn't mean that I don't have moments or times where I don't really know what to do or what's next but I resolved and I've learned that it's so important to sit and that everything is not about moving because we're in a time where you can move and do so much of just post whatever your action is or whatever.
(23:02):
But I've learned the value of sitting still and waiting for the right timing of everything and that gave me the ability to thrive and everything that I do going forward because I don't feel the pressure of everything around me to just do.
I could just be present and wait for the right moments to do whatever it is that I need to do whatever is next. So I do have those moments where it's not always clear but I know now to not use that as a place to get deep into dark places.
(23:37):
I use that as a moment to sit and listen for that clarity.
I know, or that's created. I'm tackling in tune and encourage them to start to shine games and they then they're like, how do you recreate that light? What are that component?
(23:58):
There are a few things that go into like re-emerging in the right mindset because again we can do all kinds of things but be doing them with the wrong motor, with the wrong posture, with the wrong heart and all of that.
For anybody that feels like they are in a place where they want to break out and they don't really know how or they have things in them but they don't really feel like they're supported or that they don't have the resources or anything like that.
(24:27):
My encouragement to you is to pull yourself out of comparison because for me that's where that kind of like weight heavy on me to not compare yourself and to really identify who you are and like charge that against who yourself.
Like don't use that as a way to pair yourself with what everyone else is doing. Take joy in the things that encourage you and the thing that you're passionate about and walk out in those areas and not be okay with knowing that there may be something in you that no one else has ever done.
(25:04):
And walk that out and write that out and make sense of that and just go in space on the strength of that.
And it's super inspiring that you're able to speak about how you exactly let in a creative know like which like how that you created your activity is this this here you create.
(25:25):
What would you have about the question about come okay you said and then I would say because you mentioned as a visionary as a creative you have your mind set on how you want something to flow and you mentioned something earlier about today how you really didn't know where you were going to end up today like you just knew.
(25:53):
My all bits and pieces panel want you to expand on that as well as actually was mentioning about creating an opportunity to how you kind of like create it this opportunity for yourself blinding him.
Okay.
I don't know if you can be number one.
I'm okay.
(26:14):
I don't know if something can happen.
Don't don't don't encourage it that okay.
So even being here today and oh my god you really do this he can you love you even being here in this space in this time like there were moments where like I remember being in my car
(26:36):
not too long ago and I was just listening to random music on my phone and some of my own music came up on my playlist and I just started.
I didn't really know why but I began to really reflect on it and I realized how much of myself I dismissed where I came from because I let life tell me that who I was and what I been through was not good enough it wasn't what's happened and what was popular and I let that sink into my spirit and caused me to stop moving because I didn't have any language for what I was.
(27:14):
And at the time no one around me really helped me get clarity for that or if they did it they turned it you know another way they played on insecurity and caused me to just straight up like discourage myself but I began to listen to this music and you know I just tried you know he just start to share with me how I dismissed where I came from and how necessary where I was is to where I'm at and that I needed to acknowledge and honor the past not that I was in the past.
(27:43):
The past not that I have to be a product of the past but to honor it because what I went through is for someone else who's either in it or going to go through it and so even coming to this place once I had that moment in the car like God literally arrested me and just start telling me what you're going to do when you're going to do it who you're going to call and you know all of these bits and pieces that came together but at the same time I had to go strictly off faith because I had no context for it.
(28:12):
I didn't want to do like I don't want to be seen here talking to y'all why was that I want to be I mean it's cool I you know what I wasn't prepared to get in talking be vulnerable in this space and so I had to rely on my faith to just go and do it because it's for someone else.
So then in that way and vulnerable in this way do it.
(28:35):
Vulnerability is the key to creativity if you're not willing to be open you can't touch anything in somebody else will come from the heart reach of the heart and that's one thing that I was kind of blamed not to be was honest and though I
poured out my honesty in my words in my songs and I kind of would like put my stories in the songs and you know people would pass by and it would mention like man I heard the song you did and it really man it really touched me or whatever and that was my way out when when I couldn't do it in my life I did it in the songs and so when you're in when you're willing to break you're willing to break like you can break out once you break.
(29:20):
And so it's so necessary to just be open and honest not that you got to tell everybody's openness like that you know you be wise but you need to be open because you can't be open to vision into your soul clothes and and I will into be vulnerable about you know where you are and how you're feeling and all of that kind of stuff.
(29:43):
So how do you tackle your fears? At this point I stop fears at the door because they come and I think the problem is we we get we make ourselves at home with our fears and that causes us to sit with them so long that they become a problem but if we identify the fear when the fear comes and
(30:12):
cancel it out and you know because fears are lies if all they are so is whenever at this point if I feel like I feel a fear coming all about anything even you know doing stuff like this and what y'all getting ready to see.
I had to take myself out of that and cancel that out because it's like it's not real it's it's an illusion so I'm not going to give it any power to spend time with me and start to speak to me so I think that that is as creators where we need to check ourselves at the fear level because we need to identify
(30:51):
while we're letting fear get so comfortable to us in the first place so be fearless in all things for sure.
I'm now in this place where I am absolutely free to be me and it's completely unapologetic and I never always wanted to be at this place but I had no context on how to get there so I'm grateful to be here and I'm grateful to take everything that was stuck inside me and to get it out.
(31:19):
So I love you all and thank you for your continued support for those that have been following me through all of these years and I'm here to let you know today that is a brand new day and you're going to be seeing a lot more of me in a new way and I'm ready to go.
Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode if you want to learn more about the podcast you can go to creative in process.com where you can sign up for email alerts connect on social media and submit your feedback.
(31:48):
Thoughts and questions to have them included in the future episode. If you want to connect with me directly you can find me at NELN Music on all social media platforms and please like, comment, share, subscribe.
Tell somebody about this podcast because it only goes as far as you help it grow.
I'll see you next time. Thanks for tuning in. Peace out.
Peace out!
(32:10):
[MUSIC PLAYING]
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.