David Heavener on Prophecy, Hollywood, and the End Times!

In this episode of The Cross Files Podcast, hosts Jeralynn and Michael delve into a captivating conversation with Hollywood veteran David Heavener. With over three decades in the film industry, Heavener discusses his transition from secular filmmaking to creating faith-based content, notably his prophetic action series, 'The Last Evangelist.' The discussion covers themes of religious censorship, spiritual warfare, and the portrayal of End Times prophecy in contemporary media. Heavener also shares insights into his personal journey of faith and spiritual integrity, the challenges he faced in Hollywood, and the importance of seeking God's timing. This episode offers a profound look at the intersection of Christianity and modern media, and the spiritual battles therein. Don't miss this enlightening conversation with one of Hollywood's bold voices for faith.  

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in a room in Los Angeles whenthey did the question answer. There
were Jews there, Muslims, Hindus, I mean some of them. I
knew so that I could attest tothe fact that's what they were. And
they said to me, David,is the best work you've ever done.
And I didn't quite interest in them. Yeah, but what later on at
the party after party, we weretalking to a few of them and they

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said, you know, we agreethe fact this movie depicts a government that
takes away your freedom of who youthink God is right. That's what we
have in common, is that Antichristis going to take away the freedom to
worship no matter what God you worship, because they can't afford to have you
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I'm Michael. We have our awesomespecial guests that we're very honored or blessed
to have on board. David Heavenorif you don't know who David Heavener is.
He's been in Hollywood for several decadesand he's a Hollywood veteran and he
has been a movie producer and anactor and now he's using those awesome skills,

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those awesome set of special skills forthe Lord. He's got his latest
and greatest movie series called The LastEvangelist and he has it on his website.
That way, the people that aretechnocratic, theyreradical people are not going
to censor David in any way,shape or form. So if you want
to watch The Last Evangelist, it'son David Heaven or Not TV. And

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so David tell us about your amazingantime prophetic action movie series called The Last
Evangelist. Yeah, well, thankyou, Jeralna and Michael. It's so
good to be here. Thank youfor having me. Last Angels. I
call it kind of a CSI meetsthe Book of Revelation, or even X
Files meets the Book of Revelation,and what is that exactly? It's real

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true life okay meets in times,prophecy meets the Bible. Right. I
would call it a Christian film ifyou want to, but it's not really
a Christian film. It's more ofa Christian who's making a film, which
is me and I play a cop, but John Rhodes. I bust underground
churches for not registering with the governmentuntil one night I hear God's voice and

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I go blind, and when Iwake up, I start seeing things that
the government is doing, and Istart hearing things. And so with a
Bible in one hand, a gunand the other, I set out to
find who's behind all of this stuff. This stuff, meaning the virus,
unleashing of a virus, the aiJesus, the government Bible that the government

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is coming out with. Of coursethey take certain scriptures out because their hate
speech. And so that's what thisis all about. In my hope is
and so far it's coming true,is that people that don't normally go to
church, people that aren't really quoteChristians, they'll watch this and they'll start
asking questions about the true God.Because, as you guys know, and

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I think you're on the same bandwagon, many churches are apostate, lukewarm.
They're preaching a different Jesus, adifferent God. And I think in these
last days, people like us needto come together and tell people who God
really is, the true character ofGod. And so that's what I'm hoping
with this TV series. It's becomingmore obvious that this is no longer just

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conjecture that all of this might happen. But it looks like the news when
you're talking about the virus that wasreleased and the ai Jesus, was that
kind of when you were developing thescript. I saw the first one,
at least your presentation of it atthe Warriors conference in San Diego. A
few years ago even then. Imean, you must have taking am It

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takes a long time to write ascript and develop, get the cast and
the production everything. It seems likejust this all happened right when the lockdowns
viruses. I mean, was thisall like at the same time, or
did you develop the idea before,because it just seems like we're living in
your movie right now. I actuallywrote it almost three years before the virus

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ever broke out. I didn't knowwhat to do with it. I showed
it to people, We did tablereads on it, and people said,
oh, David, this is agreat sci fi movie, isn't it?
And I said, I just don'tthink it's a sci fi I think that
there's something real about it. Idon't think that it's manifested yet. I
had no idea COVID was going topop up, but anyway it did.

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And as I saw it unfold,I'm going, Lord, I need to
make this, don't I? AndGod said not yet, because he kept
telling me not yet, not yet, because if I would have made it
too early, people wouldn't have believedit, okay, And I made it
just at the right time so peoplewould receive it okay. They couldn't receive
it while they were going through it. There was too much fear going on.

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You know. During that two yearperiod, had the powers to be
the big farmer was telling us tobe six feet apart, wear masks,
do this, don't do that.Take the people would not have watched a
movie like that during this time.They were in survival mode. This is
what God told me. He said, now that it's over, not over,

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but it's kind of slumped. Hesaid, now release it. And
now I've released it and we justwon the International New York Film Festival Best
Picture and Best Director. Oh that'samazing. But somebody blind gave it to
me. I guess they were watchingit. I appreciate it though. But
anyway, I'm able to stand infront of a group of people that don't
go to church and probably don't believein God and a question and answer at

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the festivals, I'm able to talkabout God and actually present the gospel in
my own way that God would haveme. And that's a very unusual and
beautiful platform to have. See.So what I'm saying is God's timing.
It's not just God's word and God'smessage, it's also God's timing. And

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that's what we have to be reallycareful of. When God gives us a
mission, like he's given you allthat, we have to do it on
his timing. We have to seekthe timing of the Holy Spirit and the
guidance of the Holy Spirit. Andso, you know, studios, I
knew if I went to him,because I made a lot of movies for
studios, made over fifty films.I knew if I went to them,
I knew what they would tell me. They would say, we're gonna market

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this as a sci fi We're gonnatake God out of it a little bit
more so it's more universal. Youknow, we're definitely gonna not talk about
Jesus. And so God told me, he says, you're not going to
studio. I want you to goto my people. So I set up
a website called Lastevangelist dot com wherepeople can go and they can donate a
dollar. They can donate you know, half a million or a million dollars.

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Haven't gotten any of those yet,but anyway, they support the listener,
you er support the film, andthat's how we're raising money on it.
That's awesome. When I heard youon either your show or another podcast
that you had won an award throughthe New York Film Festival. Is that
right? When I heard that,I go, oh, my gosh,

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that is awesome. And I thinkyou were talking about how the people there
that weren't even necessarily Christian or notnecessarily saved, but they were really opened
and they had questions galore of you, and probably about the word of God
or end times or whatever, asthe end Times in the Book of Revelation
really pertains to them. And youwere telling also that if there were any

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people that seemed to butt heads withyou or seem to be kind of reluctant
to accept this or whatever, werethey at the film festival? Were they
just online? Or I don't wantto focus on that, but I'm just
I just find it so kind ofweird that you know that that's the case,
that it's the believers that have anissue with this. Ironically enough,

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yeah, well believers. You know, when Jesus walked the face of the
earth, his biggest obstacle was thereligious system because they had the market on
God. Okay, they control thepeople. When Jesus came along, he
obliterated all that, and he madehim mad and made him nervous, and
that's why they killed him. AndI'm not acquitting myself to Jesus or need

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of that, but I'm trying tomake an example here is that when somebody
comes along and says something a littlebit different in a different way, sometimes
the religious system they don't like that. They don't know how to deal with
it. It doesn't meet the statusquo. And so in the Christian arena,
there's two types of Christians that watchthis and have issues. One is

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it's a hard thing to watch.As a matter of fact, that's what
they said they were in person.They said this was a hard thing to
watch. This was a hard seriesto watch. But the reason it's hard
to watch is because it's the truth, and they don't want to face the
truth. It's hard to see thatyou're going to face a tribulation. Part
two is that some Christians don't believeit. When they say it's hard to

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watch, they go, it's hardto watch something that we don't believe is
true. Believe it or not,because there's many Christians out there that don't
believe in prophecy. They believe theold prophets, they don't believe in prophecy
today, they think it's metaphor alot of the stuff in Matthew twenty four.

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They know because they've got to guyit up. I call it.
It's not the good news, it'sthe guy news, right. And so
my biggest obstacle has been the religioussystem. Now, there are Christians that
embrace this, such as yourself,and they they love it, they believe
in it, and that's what keepsme going. However, what really also

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keeps me going is people that don'tknow God, but they want to know
more about this God than I'm talkingabout. They go that doesn't look like
the God. Seeing these big churchesare on that TV preacher talking all this
stuff. That really thrills me iswe're able to get it out to those
kind of people. That's awesome.Thank you for sharing that you and I

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want to just add to that.And I have a question too. We
are obviously the fringe Christian movement.You've been interviewing everybody rust Istar, and
you've been I've seen a lot ofthe big good, heavy duty good doctrinal
end time prophecy researchers on your differentinterviews that are scattered around the internet.
I don't even know, if youcan keep track of everything that's of yours,

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it's just everywhere TikTok on YouTube,and people need to check out David
Heavener's work and like and support andrepost and subscribe to the TV network because
here's how I look at it,Skywash TV, Awesome, new studio,
Boom, Gilbert Gilbert's the Derek Gilberthis wife, awesome team, you know,
Fringe Radio Network, growing Boom.What you're doing. It's like,

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if we can just expand and getthis out there, this is good doctrine
people, this is not And whatI wanted to ask you was, you
know it's popular to just go alongwith just the popular oh the rapture,
the oh the pre trib rapture.What was the journey that led you to
get good doctrine even at the riskof not being like accepted in Hollywood and

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just like blah blah blah, youknow, pre trib I mean, post
trib, post trip rapture, easy, you know, left behind kind of
style. The only thing Hollywood knowsabout Left Behind is it was a failed
movie starring Nicholas Page and not agood one. Dad. You know.
Other than that, they don't knowthat you know, that's not their game.

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They really, you know, comeseek them, sou let me.
I think you're asking the question,and correct me if you're not, because
I could be wrong. But inHollywood, how do I survive around people
that really don't agree with us orunderstand it, or they're not into the
so they're you know, I survivevery well because they look at me as

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someone that just stepped off a spaceshipsomewhere. You know. They go,
this dude, he ain't like yourTV preacher. He's not like your Sunday
Morning six flags. They don't callit six flags over Jesus, he's not
like your normal pre What is thisguy? You know? And so the
time they're able to figure me out, which they're not, I'm able to
do what they call a silent eviction. I go in, I cast the

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demons out of the room, andby that time, you know, everything's
good. So I haven't had issuesin Hollywood at all, I have to
tell you, and I and Isay that not being not not bragging,
but being bold enough to say thatthat we all have the power of God
in us to deal with demons.Okay, a lot of these people,

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they don't even know they have demonsaround them in them. They don't know.
But what they do know is thatwhen someone preaches the One and True
God, they have to bow,they have to yield, just like the
demons did when Jesus showed up.They trembled. Now, notice I said
when you preach the one and onlyTrue God, not when you have religion.

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That's not what I'm talking about.But when a person walks into the
room, I call it full spiritualconsciousness. You walk into the room,
you know you're a child of God. You know you have the power of
God, and you know that poweris greater than he who's in you,
than he who's in the world.When you know that and you walk into
a room, I can tell youthese demons are paralyzed. They don't know

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what to say, they don't knowwhat to do. And that gives you
a chance, me a chance togo in and deal with these demons,
you know, one by one.In backing up what I said earlier about
they can't figure me out, theyactually agree with me a lot of times.
Because what I and most atheists havein common and Hollywood people have in

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common is we both hate religion.See and so so that we found some
neutral ground. You ever heard thefriends are the greatest friends when they have
the same enemy. Well, wehave the same enemy for different reasons.
They look at religion as if,you know, that's God. I look
at religion as if that's not God. But in any case, we both

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are on the same common ground aswe don't like the church system, okay,
And so that kind of gives mea platform to sit and talk to
people and to discover different things ofthe way they're thinking, and just to
listen. You know, it's important, I think to listen to people before
we start talking. Absolutely. Havethere been people from other religions, Well,

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we know that Hollywood is kind ofa mixture of I used to live
in other California kind of either atheistor agnostic or New Age or what have
you. Have there been other peoplemaybe that are Buddhist or Hindu or Muslim
or whatever. Have they seen themovie and maybe reacted to it? Not
as yet. Yes, yes,So we did a screak la on episode

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one, which you can watch onDavid Heaven dot TV and we have like
nine hundred videos. But yeah,in a room in Los Angeles when they
did the question and answer, therewere Jews there, Muslims, Hindus.
I mean some of them I knewso that I could attest to the fact
that's what they were. And theysaid to me, David, it's the
best work you've ever done. AndI didn't quite understand them. Yeah,

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but what later on at the partyafter party, we were talking to a
few of them and they said,you know, we agree the fact that
this movie depicts a government that takesaway your freedom of who you think God
is right. That's what we havein common, is that the Antichrist is
going to take away the freedom toworship no matter what God you worship,

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because they can't afford to have youworship something bigger than they are. Do
you follow right? So we allunderstand that there is a persecution, okay,
of people that have a belief system. The other thing, too,
is that when people come to me, like I said before, some of
these people that I believe could beChristians maybe want to be Christians. They'll

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go, we don't know this God, we'd like to know more about your
viewpoint on God's kind of what they'resaying. Because I play a character where
I don't automatically just discover God andstart going to church and singing in the
choir. You know, Noll,I still have a gun in one hand
and a Bible in the other,and I'm after something. And I don't

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even know what I'm after or Idon't know why I'm after it. I
just know I'm after it. Yousee what I'm saying, guided by the
Holy Spirit. And so they likethat, and so therefore it opens up
it awesome. Oh, that's amazingthat. That's a different way to look
at it. Is that the Antichristand the b system will take away everybody's

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ability to worship whatever God like yousaid that they want to you have to
worship the religion of the anti craze, worship him in order to buy and
sell and what have you. Well, I never thought of that. It's
a very good way, a goodand different way to look at it.
Yeah. Absolutely, Well. Yousee, here's the thing I believe is

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a Christian for me, I don'tlay this on other people. We as
Christians have a tendency to want totalk first and talk more and listen less.
Right, it's a good point.The guy gave us two ears in
one mouth, and there's a reasonfor that. And for me if I
just let someone talk and I justlisten, okay, and let him talk

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themselves out, I don't care.The more they talk, the more it
gives me information. And you know, then it does two things. One,
it gives me information on how todeal with the situation because I'm hearing
them out. Number two is theyknow I've given them the respect to talk
about because see a lot of Christiansthey don't. They want to come in
here call on Bible thumpers, andthey want to thump people upside. They

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have scripture and with their doctrine andthey know it all. And if you
don't do it this way, you'regoing to go to hell or whatever.
No, No, I say Godowns everything. God. The devil is
just he's you know, he's encroaching, he's illegal, he's not legal.
And I say God owns everything.So therefore I have nothing to be afraid

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of. I don't need to beafraid of somebody telling me something or trying
to force some type of doctrine onme. I can just listen and see
what they have to say. That'sawesome, Amen, and again thanks for
making thanks for making all of usthe French Christian look cool because sometimes we
can be a little like aliens you'recoming and oh and I mean you have

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a really cool presentation Dave having HeerTV. And there's the interviews that you
do. I mean, you're coveringall the bases, Sir, I don't
know how you even have the energyto do all that you do. Great
to see you going strong. Ikind of wanted to to ask you,
is is more of a spiritual warfarequestion? Because you're looking at this all

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day and you're working super hard makingvery professional filmography on these topics. What
do you see as now? Aslike the mainstream is basically like, yep,
aliens are here. Yeah, Ihave UFOs and no o, they're
from a different dimension and Vatican's gettingready to baptize them and all of that.
How can believers really be ready forthese things to start showing up?

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Based on all of the different documentariesand interviews you've been doing, Steve bankars
lamar Zula, everybody, rust Istar, what do you do when you see
one of these things? I mean, this is a serious question. Somebody
listening might actually encounter one of thesebased on all your research, What are
those things? What are these aliens? And what can we do about it

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to prepare for that. Well,let me just kind of simplify it,
because I'm not a complicated guy,because I'm not smart enough for that.
These things, these things are interdimensional. They're not extraterrestrial. They're not outside,
they're inside. These are demons.These are demonic entities. Okay.
Now, they come in different forms, different sizes, different shapes. They

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can shape shift or you have aNephelene that you had. And also if
you watch some of my videos withrest Istar, you can catch them on
David Heaven or dot TV. Thedemons have names. They absolutely do.
We dissect that. The demons goto church. I mean, I can
get deep into this kind of thisstuff and I've been into it for years.
Simply put, these things, thesealiens, whatever you want to call

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it, doesn't matter what shape they'rein. They're demonic. You handle them
in the same way you handle ademon. You cast that demon out in
the name of Jesus. You sendthe demon back to Hell, and the
demon will not return. You donot have these conversations with them. You

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don't negotiate with them. You don'tthrow holy water on them, you don't
read scripture to them. You don'ttalk in Latin to them. You don't
do any of that stuff. Youyou address them directly a few words,
and you tell them where to go, and you tell them that they're not
to return. That's it. Period. Until believers believe that they can do

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that, then your answer, myanswer to your question is they're going to
be toast. First of all,you know, I work with la Marzouley
quite a bit. We've done alot of interviews, and he'll agree most
Christians never look up. So hesays, most Christians have their head in
the sand. Most Christians, theydon't even have a concept of disclosure.

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Okay, so if you don't havethat concept, what's going to happen is
you're going to fall for this disclosure, this alien showing up, it's a
demon. You're gonna fall for itlike you did the COVID wearing mask and
standing six feet apart and taking them. You're gonna fall because you don't have
the I'm gonna say, and youguys, but people that they're gonna fall
because they don't have the information.So they're gonna get scared and they're gonna

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run to fear instead of faith.But my prayer is that enough people watch
these videos get the information that they'regonna run straight to their faith and not
be guided by fear, because iffear guides you, you're going to fall
into the demonic clutches and you're notgoing to cast these demons out. You
know, Episode two deals with thethere's two kinds of people. The kind

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that took it, they're dying,they're ill, and the kind that wouldn't
and they can't buy or sell.That's what episode two deals with. And
in this I depict a society inwhich people have turned to one thing or
the other, either fear or faith, and eternal death is turning to fear,

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temporary turmoil is turning to faith.Okay, Jesus said that do you
want eternal death turning to fear?Do you want temporary turmoil turning to faith?
Well, I'll take the temporary turmoilturning to faith because that's temporary,
right. And so this is whyI released episode two because I'm hoping people
watch it, they walk away andthey go, wow, I've got to

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really look at this thing different.I've got, you know, because there's
an anti Christ government out there thatwhat they're doing to people, and if
these Christians. These churches don't wakeup and understand what's happening. They're going
to get in bed with the religioussystem, will marry a deep state government

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Luciferian system, and that'll be theavenue of the anti christ. See.
And this is what I'm trying toget across to people, so people understand.
We have a thing called the insertionin episode two where you have the
but it's no good without the insertion. This insertion is something they put in
you that can carry all your vitals. You can give all your information,

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but it can also do something withthem. I don't want to give the
story away that can't not do onits own. And by the way,
if people want to see this,we're premiering episode two July twentieth. You
can come in person in Brookville,Ohio at the World Harvest at the Harvest
Revival Center, or you can goonline. You can be with us virtually.

(27:29):
You don't have to be there.You can just go to David having
or do TV and get your tickets. David certainly feels like we're living in
one of your movies, Sir.I can't say it enough. It's just
like it's just watching the news ohwait, nope, it's last evangelist and
it's it's the unpopular version of endtime theology, which I again I commend

(27:52):
you for your courage to stick mind. David. I know on one of
your podcasts or one of your showson YouTube, you were talking about out
how the mark of the beast willchange one's DNA. Could you speak more
about that. Yeah, what happensis when we've become a child of God.

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You see, it's all about theblood. The blood was introduced into
the world when Jesus was a baby. It was God's blood was introduced into
the world, the blood of thelamp. He walked the face of the
earth, and God's blood revealed thepower of that blood, which is healing
the sick, casting out demons,raising the dead, preaching the gospel.
When Jesus died on the cross,that blood was shed for you and I.

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There is power in that blood.When Jesus rose to the Father,
he offered that blood. He roseup and he offered that blood. You
see. So it's all about theblood, all right. Now, when
we accept Christ, we have themind of Christ. Right, isn't that
what the Bible says, the mindof Christ without blood going through our brain,

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we would not be able to think. In other words, we wouldn't
have a brain. Right. Ithink we had read it that there's something
about the blood that changes, andscientists will tell you this, They've researched
this, that when you repent,your blood actually changed. There's a change
in the blood. Now, Idon't know that they'll go as far as

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the say the DNA. I willsay that I believe that your DNA changes
when you become a child of God. Your blood DNA changes. Now if
you take the mark of the Beast, that changes, but your blood,
just like when you accept Christ,the blood is changed for the Christ.

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When you don't accept Christ, yourblood is changed for the Antichrist. You
see what I'm saying. There's achange in your DNA one way or the
other. This is why I don'tbelieve that anyone who accepts Christ for real,
I'm talking about for real, canever take the mark of the Beast.
All right, you go with David. There's people out there that you

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know they took their brain dead.They well, look, then I have
to question do they really know theLord? Do they? I'm not saying
they don't. I can't judge people. I don't know, right, but
do they really see? You can'tdine in two tables. You can't dine
at the table of demons and thetable of God. It is impossible.
Jesus said, I'd rather fore youto be hot or cold than lukewarm.

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Since you're lukewarm, I could donothing with you. I'm going to vomit
you out of my mouth. Yousee. So this is why we must
understand. It's all about the blood. The Antichrist wants our blood. That's
why he wants to be in theblood. That's why he wants to control
the blood. He needs that bloodin order to control and actually to survive
and actually amplify his dirty, evilagenda which he wants to do. I

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agree, I definitely agree about that. I that's interesting. That's an interesting
take on that. I like,I hit you. You talk about things
from different angles that I or Michaelor I have not thought of before.
That that our DNA changes. Well, there's there's a lot of discussion about
that the mark of the beast willchange one's DNA, But I never thought

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about how when you receive Jesus Christ, that your DNA changes, and like
you were saying that if a personis truly in Christ, they probably wouldn't,
you know, take the vax ortake the mark of the beast and
what have you. I do knowsome well meaning Christians that do that have
taken it. And I'm not sayingthat they're not saved anymore. I'm not

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saying that they were never saved.But I've heard of stories, I watched
videos, I read different things onthe internet about after a person takes the
VAX and the mental and physical andspiritual things that have occurred to that to
that person in sort of a blindstudy of somebody that like, like say,

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for example, a person that hasobserved you know, their mother or
father, sister, brother, husbandor wife that has taken the VACS.
So without the blogger saying anything,had noticed that after they took that jab,
that like the next day or withinthe week, they said that they
didn't believe in God anymore, youknow, or what have you. And
it wasn't it wasn't as if theblogger actually said, if you take the

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you'll stop believing God. It wasjust something that they observed. I mean,
time and time again, I wouldread these stories and and I'm sure
you've heard about how the vacs willactually edit out with the christper technology will
edit out the the God co genetics. Have you heard of that? What
do you think about that? Doyou think there's any merit to that?
Well? I think I think thatwhat you're asking, it's a very good

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question, and it's a question needsto be answered. I wish we had
time to answer. So if Iopened that door, if five more are
going to open Jerlyn Part two,Yeah, Well, I want to say
this back up a little bit.I don't believe that if you took that
you're not a child of God,that you absolutely will take the mark of

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the Beast. I'm not going tosay that. I don't believe that.
I believe that people were deceived.I believe that they acted in fear.
But you know, we all getsecond chances when it comes to now,
we don't with the mark of theBeast. There is no second chance,
right. So I'm hoping that thoughpeople may pass away from this and get
very ill, I hope not.But though they may, and some have

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that people are going to learn.See what I'm saying, They're going to
learn the lessons so that when themark does come around, they're going to
remember, hey, uh huh nono, no, no, no,
I remember that beta test. Thatain't going to happen, right, So
that's my prayer. However, sayingthat, I think most that took it
are going to do the same thing. They're going to run to fear,
they're going to repeat it, andthey will absolutely take it. Now,

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your question, I think was,when you take this, it does something
to your the chemicals in your brain, to your thought process. I don't
believe that it actually is something thatcan turn you against God. Do I
believe that it's something that could scrambleyour brain, give you Alzheimer's, cause

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you not to be able to makedecisions connect with God? Yes, I
do. I believe that. Butdo I think that it's something that was
injected to cause people to hate God? Not necessarily. I think that that
would have happened possibly anyway. Andhere's the thing. Even if someone says
I hate God, whatever, youdon't know what they're saying is really how

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they feel. If it's causing themto think to say something like that,
they may be saying it because theycan't. Their thinking is all messed up,
but their heart is still right withGod. You see, what I'm
saying, the heart and the brainare two different things. So the Antichrist
is trying to get to the heart. But to do that, he knows

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he has to go through the brainin order to get to the heart.
But he has gotten to the heart, yet he has not gotten to the
heart. As Michael Lake said whenI interviewed him many many times, it
may be the last true decision youever made. You see with this,
so you have to know that youmay not get another chance if you've taken

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them. Take that seriously, youmay not get another chance. In other
words, learn from it. Don'tsit there and put yourself up. There's
nothing you can do. Learn fromit. You do get a second chance,
right amen. I know people thatare waking up after taking it and
they're turning away from being a liberalDemocrat just because of the level of darkness

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that's out there. Isn't this anamazing time, David, to win souls
seeing all of this stuff that thefringe Christians have been talking about for decades
and many have passed on. AndI appreciate that you have a channel dedicated
to honoring Rustizdar on David heaven ordot TV. Yeah, so people need
to go there and explaining what SRAis because a lot of people don't know

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that. If you want to maybetouch on that a little bit for folks,
because I mean, you're covering alot of basis or so it's exciting
to get to talk to you hereand ask you questions. But what just
for the person that maybe is poppingin here and they know about some of
this stuff, but they're like,oh, SR, what's that? You
know? How does that fit intothis vision of the end times that you're

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painting in your terrific content. Yeah, SRA Michael is there are three letters.
It stands for satanic ritual abuse.Now you have abuse, you have
ritual abuse. But this is satanicritual abuse. It's it's a very specific
abuse. It can be corporate orit can be individual. And I'll explain

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that first of all, what isit? Just whether corporal or individual?
A Satanic ritual abuse is an abuseagainst a person, usually a baby,
a young person, because it's easierto reach and break them and cause them
to have multiple personalities, which isone of the main agendas behind it.

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But it's a it's a an abusethat's bestowed upon a person from in the
agenda from the person the abuser isto inflict pain to the point where they
can control the person. They usuallysplit the person into many personalities. We
call that program multiples. And theydo it for an agenda, for a

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purpose whereafter they abuse the person throughthe Satanic ritual abuse. And like I
said, it can be individual orit can be corporate. Usually it's corporate
meaning meaning many people, several people, and it's deliberate. Once they do
this and they program this person asmall child, this child doesn't even know

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it went through the Satanic ritual abuse. It has multiple personalities. But as
they grow up, these personalities havedifferent missions, different things that they are
programmed to do. I'll give megive you an example. I was in
Vegas when the forty nine to fiftypeople were gonne down there at the Mandalay

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Bay. I had just left,I was a half hour gone, and
I heard about it. So Iwent back and I covered it. I
did a story on it because somethingwasn't right. And a year later I
covered it because something was even worse. It just wasn't right. Well,
what it was was this guy thatmassacred these people. He turned the gun

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on himself and killed himself. Ayear later, the case was dropped.
They dropped the whole case. Inother words, it was out the window.
That didn't sit right with me,and I went back here later.
You can catch it on David HeavenerTV if you pull up Vegas Massacre and

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I cover it's a twenty minute pieceof why I believe it was an agenda
behind it. First of all,this guy was a program multiple When they
program people, they programmed them usuallyto do mass shootings, usually to carry
out just all different kinds of things. But then they the one personality that
they have inside of them that theirprogram is to end up taking their life

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at the very end. That's whyyou see most mass shooters take their life.
You ever wonder that that's kind ofweird, isn't it. Well,
they were programmed for that, mostof them, not all, but most.
So. This is the world ofsatanic ritual abuse, okay, and
they do it. They abuse peoplethrough their sexuality. That's how they've learned

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to get into people, to crackthem, to go through their sexual nature,
because that's the most sensitive part ofus. If you can go through
that and you can get to peoplethrough that, it's easier to split them
and control them. I probably gaveyou more than you asked for. But
that's that's kind of a Johnny thunderat all. That's perfect. I mean,

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I know there's the super Soldier programthat the late great rest Istar talked
about, and that's become a moreand more normal thing that's on Amazon Prime
latest show, you know the Boys. It's all about these super Soldiers and
they're all messed up and like weirdsex addicts, and it's just become mainstream

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now. So it's interesting. TheLord is our strength, right, hope?
Amen, Praise God. David.This is kind of a a left
hard here, but this is somethingthat I've thought about. I'm like,
should I ask, David? ShouldI not? I'll just go to go
ahead and ask. Let me knowif you if you just don't feel comfortable
talking about this. So, David, like when I got red pilled back

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in word pilled back in twenty fourteen, I had did some research and you
know, different videos, different thingsthat I read on the internet that had
discussed that, along with the MKultra, that they do this on celebrities,
whether it's actors and actresses, singers, musicians or what have you,

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or perhaps they're working for the governmentto become an assassin or what have you.
And then I've also heard about peoplesigning contracts and what have you that
seemed to indicate that the movie productioncompany owns their soul in this life,
owns them in this life and inthe next. And what do you think
about that? Have you ever comeacross anything like that while working in Hollywood?

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Or is it all a fable?It mixed for a good Hollywood movie,
doesn't it. It does? Yeah? No, And I tell people
this, I wish I could geton that bandwagon. It's sure would get
a lot more hits, sell alot more tickets, probably a lot more
interviews. But no, I've saidthis from the very beginning. It's not

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true. This thing that they've takenthrough Hollywood about drinking blood, eating flesh,
you know, all this sacrifice stuff. It happens no more in Hollywood
than it does in Walla Walla,Washington, or Middle America at some plumber's
house. Okay, The human psycheand the corruption of the flesh is all

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over the world. It's not containedin Hollywood. Okay. So I mean,
like I said, it makes agood Hollywood movie when you see the
stars, you know, get infront of the camera and say, you
know, I'm going to expose thisbecause they did this, they did that.
True, but hey, it's truein Middle America. Okay, you

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happen to be a movie star,right, So I'm not negating what they're
saying. But just because they sayit doesn't mean that it runs rampant anymore
in Hollywood than it does anyplace else. And I can tell you that because
I've been out there for a lotof years, and I've studios and I've
worked with, you know, notthe biggest stars, but certainly Academy Award

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winners and some of the oldie goldies. And I've been invited to parties I've
seen and are there you know,riskue stuff and edgy and out there.
Yeah, there's that stuff, butthat's not what you're talking about. In
other words, a sex party isnot what you're talking about. What you're
talking about is a spiritual event,right, And so no, that doesn't

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really apply the way that people think, even though it does happen, but
it doesn't happen anymore out there itdoes anywhere else. Okay, Well,
thank you. If I'm going toget a straight answer from a Hollywood insider.
Who better yet, who better totalk to you about this than somebody
who's been in the Hollywood mainstream forseveral decades and what have you? Since

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you haven't come across it or orI mean you have in situated that there's,
like you said, sex parties anddifferent things that are car that are
depraved of what have you. Butlike you said, that that's that's not
consentrated just in Hollywood. That couldbe anywhere. Yeah, yeah, I
mean I've come across you know,I was invited to a channeling party where

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you channel these ancestors and stuff likethat. I was invited to a say
once at one time, I was. But I have to tell you I
was also invited to stuff like thatin Nashville, Tennessee and in America Love
God's Country, right because I wasa songwriter before I was an actor.
So I can tell you the lessin my book, the level of corruption

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in Nashville, Tennessee would make Hollywoodlook like, I don't know, look
like a fairy tale, you know. So I think if you're going to
say Hollywood, I think you haveto look at Hollywood as a state of
mind, not as a geographical placeon the map. You know what I'm
saying. So, if Hollywood isin Middle America, yes it's in Hollywood.
If Hollywood's in Nashville, yes it'sin Nashville. Most human tracks,

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efficking victims, and most sra thathappens happens in Middle America. It happens
in places you wouldn't expect it,not in places where it's expected, because
they don't want to get caught.You know. Russ and I did some
boots on the ground with Russ Istarand we actually went to Amish. I
have a show called Almish Amish Witchthat I did with him, and we

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went to these Amish witches. Itactually filmed this stuff, and we actually
saw where these bishops in this Amishvillage was human trafficking, was trafficking people
in their ritual abuse. And Imean, and we're talking Pennsylvania and Ohio
and right, yes, yeah,exactly. I believe it. There is

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an author and a fellow podcaster whohas talked about that he and his ex
used to live right in Amish countryand everything you said about the witchcraft there
is totally true. And then soit's interesting that that in the area that
you think that the witchcraft and occultsand that kind of stuff is taking place,

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is not taking place as much as, like you said, Middle America,
maybe down the street or what haveyou, or you know, you
would never think that, you know, the Amish has that. You would
never think that the Amish has witchcraftthere because everybody thinks that they're pious and
godly and holy and everything, butyou would never think that they would practice

(46:29):
witchcraft and animal sacrifice and what haveyou. Okay, thanks David, David,
can I ask a question about youryour network. I was very pleasantly
surprised to find out that you havethis David heaven or dot TV rolling and
that that is available also on theapp store. You can get that as

(46:49):
an app on Apple app store isthere, And I'll ask you some more
questions practical, but what made youdecide to do that? I mean,
that is such a huge undertaking andyou could have just stuck with I'm a
filmmaker, I work with different films, but to actually get what's the vision
behind that? Yeah, thank youfor asking God be about six years ago

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he said, David, there's goingto come a day where you will not
be able to talk and tell thetruth I want you to build an arc.
Okay, the arc is the Davidheaven Or TV. This will not
be censored. It will eventually willtake a long time. Okay, they
were on Roku, Amazon, Apple, TV, and it's our own private
platform. These other social media platforms, we will get kicked off. I

(47:38):
mean I've been kicked off social media. My show's been taken down more times
than I can count. And peoplego, it's a miracle you're still on,
And it is a miracle I'm stillon because all my friends have been
taken down. But anyway, Iformed this because I wanted people to know
the truth. You know, itcost a lot of money to do this.

(48:00):
It was a lot of time,a lot of effort. It still
is a lot of effort, timeand money. But it's worth it to
me because if I can get toone or two people a day or a
week or whatever and they learn thetruth, they get this information and it
saves them from hell, then tome, it's worth it. There's no
amount of money that can justify menot doing it, and so that's why

(48:22):
I do it. And I alsohave a new feature, which is twenty
four to seven. They can goand they can watch movies, all my
videos twenty four to seven. Theycan go Sunday, like right now,
whatever time it is, seven o'clock, ten to seven, you can go
David Heaven or TV hit watch TVand you can. It'll scrow down,
tell you what's playing, and ifyou leave it on, it'll just continue

(48:43):
to play for the whole week,you know. And so I'm trying to
get the level of quality up onthis so that people will go to it.
It'll be a go to place.And so anyway, thank you for
asking. People can go to DavidHeaven or dot TV and they can signup.
But I do a show every Sundayat eleven am, I preach and

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then we go on David Heaven orTV exclusively for an hour after the preaching,
and then on Monday night at sevenpm, I do a live show
kind of like what you all aredoing, and then hour after that we
go underground at on David Heaven ordot TV just for the members. So
I invite you guys to tune in. You can catch me free on David
Heaven or TV, or you cango to YouTube or the other social media

(49:28):
platforms and join me. Tomorrow nightseven and Sunday morning at eleven am.
Yes, And I actually didn't catchyou live, but I caught you while
I was working out in the afternoonto your church service and or your message
in the morning, and I thought, Oh, that's awesome that you do
that. I mean, you're veryavailable and you're sharing God's word and so

(49:49):
if you were like a renaissance man, you're not only movie producer and actor,
but you're also a singer and songwritertoo. When I thought when I
read that, I was like,Wow, that's amazing. So, David,
I wanted how did you come toknow the Lord? I know you
were raised in Kentucky. I havea feeling that maybe your mom or your
family members were Christians and what haveyou. How did you come to know
the Lord? Was it when youwere really young or did you have a

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moment of crisis when you were inHollywood when you came to know Jesus or
can you tell us about your testimonialbriefly? Yeah, I accepted Christ when
I was seven, and I experiencedthe moving in the spirit of God when
I was nineteen because I'd fallen away. But then about twelve years ago I

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have what they had, what theycall spiritual integrity. And what that meant
was I was playing. I hadtwo personalities. I was split personality.
I'd go to Hollywood Monday through Fridayand I'd have the Hollywood David. Then
I go to church on Sunday andI have Church David. I was two
separate personalities, and I was somiserable that one night, on a bathroom

(50:57):
floor in Texas, at seven pmon a Friday night, I fell to
the floor. I quit breathing.I actually lost conscience. I don't know
how long I was out, butwhen I came up, my Hollywood David,
married my God, going to ChurchDavid and I came up as one
entity. And it's called spiritual integrity. I was integrated. They were all

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together, and everywhere I would go, I'd take all of me with me.
So if I went to Hollywood,I took God with me. If
I went to church, I tookHollywood with me. I have had to
pay a price, because you makea lot of people mad that way.
You know, you lose a lotof friends. But it was worth it.
So that's what I call spiritual integrity. And I really wasn't thank you.
I really wasn't effective to the kingdomor really happy in God's eyes.

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Until I had the spiritual integrity experience, and until we have that as Christians,
we're just folks. We're just lukewarm, we're just playing around. You
got me the integrity which means integrated. It means integrated that you're willing to
defend God and not willing, notworried about offending man. You see what

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I'm saying. And that's where weall need to be. Amen. I
like that spiritual integrity. I thinkall of us go through that. So
we might not necessarily be an actoractress one life and then a church going
Christian the other. But for me, you know, when when I go
into the office, I can sometimesbe one way, you know. I

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mean it's not it's not a massivedemarcation or anything like that. It's just,
you know a little bit more worldlyto be accepted by coworkers and friends.
You don't want to be the onethe only one in there saying you
know, I am pro life oryou know, I'm I'm not woke or
I'm not you know what I mean. Like because once you know, once
your liberal friends, you know,get win that you know you're you're you
know, not on board with someof their ideology, then they might not

(52:52):
include you or whatever. So thatcould be one person. I don't know
about you, Michael. You're inGod's country over there North Carolina, but
here in Florida. You know,I'm not thinking it's secular here, but
you know, I mean there's Itjust depends on the people that you work
with or whatever. So yeah,I think that spiritual integrity is awesome.
That the Hollywood David married the ChristianDavid and you brought those two worlds together.

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I love that. That's beautiful.Yeah, I want to touch on
unless, Michael, you have somethingto say. I wanted to touch on
that, but if you have,you were the guests or don't get me
going all ran for hours. Ijust I'm just kind of deer in the
headlights getting to talk to one ofmy heroes right now. So at least
go ahead, sir, Thank you. I want to touch on something you
said, which I think is importantbecause I think it also, but I

(53:38):
have to not think it. Okay, I'll share this. I know what
you're saying when you when you say, now I'm going to go to work,
and you know, I maybe haveto kind of act like them a
little bit, or maybe not talkabout God a little bit. I get
that, I totally do. I'mnot not at all judging you because I'm

(53:58):
guilty of the same thing or goinginto church, and now you've got to
act a little bit more churchy.There's some kind of language going on,
you know, you know whatever itis, Well, how about this?
How about this? How about doingnone of that? How about throwing all
that stuff out the window? Itdoesn't exist. You don't even know what

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that means. Do you know whatI'm saying? You have nop of what
it means to act a certain wayto go to church or act a certain
way to go to your work.You have no idea. You're from another
planet. You're walking here going whatokay? Here I am. How about
just being you who God created youto be, and don't without being anything
or morphing in or not morphing in. You know, you just just do

(54:43):
it. I'm saying this to youbecause I've said it to me, So
don't think I'm listening to you.I'm not. I'm preaching to me.
We want we want your preaching,we want your teaching. Well, this
is what I've had to learn andThis is how I survive. Is that
I asked God to say, God, look, you created me before I
was born. You know me.I don't know me, really, I

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really don't know me. One dayI will. Bible says, we'll know
ourselves. We'll be able to youknow. Right now it's a dirty reflection,
But God, can I just bewhat you created me to be,
not what they want me to beor not what I think I have to
be. And that really helps mebecause you know what happens at that point,
I become nobody. I become nobody. I just become me. You

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know what I'm saying. I don'thave an identity to anything. And this
really screws up the mind of evilpeople. They do not know how to
deal with this. See you notknow how to deal with it. They
get very confused, and it's reallyfun to watch the confusion as they sit

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and they stare and they don't knowwhat question to ask, right, And
so as you stare back and yousay to God, okay, Holy Spirit,
you promise you would protect me andgive me the words I need those
words right now. And you'll beso surprised how you disarm their ability to

(56:12):
try to put you in a cornerand trap you by asking questions or saying
certain things. It's really remarkable.I just enjoy the heck out of it.
Wow, that's definitely a better wayto look at it for sure,
David, Thank you. Say men, Yeah, I'm so inspired this.
We really do need to do anothershow after your premiere. And by the
way, everybody go to David Heavnordot tv and be there for the live

(56:37):
premiere. And if you can makeit to Ohio, I'm almost ready to
just grab my camper trailer and justhead out there out now from North Carolina.
But meanwhile, get that on yourRoku, get that on your Apple
TV, get that in front ofyour friend's family, David heaving or dot
TP. Because nine hundred videos andclimbing, I want to see you interview

(57:00):
more people, inspire more younger filmmakerslike my sister, my brother, They're
all getting into this stuff like it'sno longer oh I got to go to
Hollywood to make it now. Imean, look at the crap on Netflix.
Robert Downey Junior is leaving Hollywood Crapolaand starting a new film studio with
with mel Gibson and and then Angelstudios that shows all kinds. We need

(57:22):
more, not less, Christian megacontent. And this isn't just content,
this is the truth. This isgood biblical prophetic timeline doctrine that you're sharing.
So I just salute you, David, and we've got to get you
on the show again. Well I'mgonna I have to yes on my show,
okay. And also I've got theseT shirts my vaccines, the bloody

(57:45):
I love that. And the HolySpirit is my booster. Yes, oh
that's awesome. I love that.Sure, But real quick, if people
want any of my tools I usefor ministry, this is a DVD of
Last Evangelist. This is eight hoursof me interviewing all these people you've been
talking about. La Marzolla. Westsare on all these subjects we've been talking

(58:07):
about. And then this right hereis my two new books. Tom Horne
published these before he passed away.God rest his soul. This is my
story of Hollywood. I talk aboutSRA, I talk about program multiples.
This is true power. How touse your true power in these last days.
So somebody wants to go to Davidhaving her dot TV forward slash order

(58:28):
or call eight four four eight ohsix h six. I'll have all what
you just said, David in theshow notes. That way they could click
on the link David Heaving her dottv and the phone numbers and emails and
what have you and to sign upto donate and whatever. But we definitely
believe on a thousand percent of whatyou're doing, David, and it's really

(58:49):
planting seeds and not only people inHollywood, but just people in general.
I can't tell you how many peoplehave come to the Lord they're just doing
a search on Facebook or doing asearch on YouTube. Have you? And
I think the end times is somethingthat, like we talked about, is
pertinent to everybody, and so Ithink the topic of your show of the
Last Evangelist is really a game changerfor sure. And like people had said

(59:15):
that it's not anything they've ever seenbefore, you know, like they were
disillusioned because of the televangelist or youknow some bumptious person you know, banging
on the Bible or whatever, youknow, not really listening and absorbing what
their story is. I mean,even if a person is and I love
what you had to say is evenif a person that you encounter, you

(59:35):
know you completely disagree with whatever theirideology is you just completely just reject everything
that they believe in. But wehave to love those people and listen to
them and hear them out. Whyis it that they believe how they believe?
You know? And then once theyknow how much we care, then
they you know that they will willobviously care about each other too. You

(59:58):
know, they'll see all these guyslove each other. Look, they're not
trying to step on each other toget famous. It's like, I genuinely
appreciate you and getting to talk toyou, and and you're I feel the
Holy Spirit love when when you're interviewingthese people, it's just it's genuine and
this is the future. Praise gone. So thank you so much, David.

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This is really exciting. Is thereanything else that you wanted to to
throw out there for our audience orI just really appreciate what you all are
doing. I commend you for itto encourage you, and I'm asking her
about your followers you're listener to supportyou guys. Also, so thank you.
Don't forget to like twentieth the premiereof episode two, and if people

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please it's great email, awesome,awesome, Thank you so much. Well,
thank you so much David for yourtime. We really appreciate you,
and we definitely need to have youback for a part two and part three
and what have you. However,the Lord, the Lord will Terry and
thank you so much for bringing uplight into a dark place, and we

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really appreciate your ministry and your giftsthat you're bringing into the world, you
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and God bless you and have astrange and spiritful good morning, afternoon,
or evening wherever you are in theworld, folks, Bye Finn.