From America to Beyond: A Call for Spiritual Awareness

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:34):
Ahlujah. Alrighty, thank you Lord, Bless this time. Lord, Thank
you for my brothers and sister and the audience, and
just fill us with your joy and wisdom. Help us
not to talk over Enoch too much. It's going to
be hard. It's gonna be hard. We're gonna have a
lot of fun. Fill us with your spirit, and just
bless our lives, Lord, each one of us where we're

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stationed all over the planet, and the things that are
before us that are very important. So just bless us,
send your angels, bless all of the people listening in
Jesus' name.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Thank you, laurd Can I add in protect this conversation, yes,
the technology being used, and put a hedge of protection
around it through all dimensional access points. Yes and yeah,
and have our minds clear and so that we're able
to reach those who are open and ready to ready

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to hear.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Amen.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Amen, Thank you, Laura, thank you so much for my
brothers in Christ. I just pray that you bless our relationship.
Beport communication and conversation by the enemy in any way,
shape or form against this broadcast, this podcast. Bless the technology,
Bless the airwaves, the wi Fi. I just pray you
fill our hearts and minds with your godly guidance, direction, advice,

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and wisdom. Help us think, say, and do whatever you
want to to do. They could say, I help us
to convey to the audience, Lord of the stuff that
you've placed on our hearts, and let there be a
convergence of us in one in spirit with you. Lord,
Jesus and blessed provide He'll protect, save and deliver us
all us in our families. And Jesus Mighty name.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Nothing more of that.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
We're all. We're three of us are heavily judging you
right now. It's fine.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Four podcasters on one show.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Yeah, this is awesome.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Hey, we're going to be doing Canary Cry in a
few days, so very cool. Yeah, Rod hooked us up
and it's about North Carolina, so that'll be will be
a first probably not news talk, so I guess we're
actually going to be on there there they radio.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, I brought Justin just for as good.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Looks you brought Justin on what.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Just for as good as Yeah, that's that's why I
want to boost your ratings by having Justin here. Just
to look for the ladies to look at it.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
He's married with children. But okay, I'm just saying it
does make us look.

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Welcome to the Crossbiles Podcast. I'm one half your host Jerry,
and I'm Michael, and we have our guests tonight, Enoch
Putris and Justin and they have a lot to say
about end times and prophecy and eschatology and about the
condition of America and what they see as going around

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the corner. So enough, can you tell a bit about yourself?
And Justin, can you tell a bit a bit about yourself?
And then we'll after that we'll get into some questions.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Absolutely. Yeah. So I have a channel called the Rundown
of Our Reality and I sort of get into I
break down basically the the deceptions that are are around us,
and I talk about things because there's a lot of
people doing that, but I talk about things that aren't
really talked about in other channels, you know, like a

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for example, the the white and black freemasonry and what
what that actually entails, what it means, and the different
the different levels, because we all know about freemasonry, but
no one's talking about well, there's there's this false light
side and it's black side, and and then I get
into a lot of the future tech that's coming, which

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is all based in quantum technology. Quantum is so anybody's
wondering that's like think of Star Trek and you have replicators, transporters,
you have the med beds, you know, all all this
sort of stuff which works at a quantum level, and
you do not want to use it works on a

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quantum level to uh, to heal you and or to
create things for you, or it basically, for example, will
make living metal for people to build, you know. Just
it's just stuff like that that that's that's coming. There's
already so many people exposing the Black Mason Masonic, like

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it's so obvious, you know, the the Black Masonic. We
we we know it's evil, but but nobody's exposing the
false light and showing what that is. So I spent
a lot of time doing that. Before that, I studied
government finance, and and that's how I knew basically where
where where we're going is because I saw the government

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finance the legislation in twenty twenty and and that really
got me focused of we're heading to a dark, dark place.
And yeah, so that's that's that's pretty much it got
a lot of subjects on my and it's not focusing
on fear. It's focusing on focusing on preparation and being
an awareness. And in there there's also a fantastic video

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called Anatomy of a Prayer, which breaks down how prayer
works and the different types of prayer because a lot
of people, for example, don't know what don't know what
an a precatory, imprecatory prayer, Oh my goodness, imprecatory. Yes,
prayer is hard to say for example, which is cursing,

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which is cursing through prayer, which is, for example, that
you curse until someone bends their need to to Jesus
or bends the need to God. So if someone is
coming at you spiritually in a spiritual attack, how to
pray against that so that you know, affects them sevenfold
until they until they basically acknowledge that Jesus is Lord

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and comes to them, comes to them, you know, stuff
like that, and it's not you know, it's not something
you should know. This especially for the end times, whenever
we're going to be surrounded by so much evil, you know,
things like that, And that's just one of the twelve
types of prayers. That that can be used and when
you so when you study it, you also learn that
in the end times, when judgment is upon you and

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you do intercessory prayer on someone who's who has judgment,
you are then praying against the Holy Spirit. And if
you're asking to be taken out, if if you're asking, well, Lord,
you can have to take me out if you want
to take this person out. Okay, that's that's what the
end times is. Judgment has come, So you want to
be very careful with impregatory prayer when you're out of

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the time of Grace. So you know, things like that,
and I get I get into a lot of other
other breakdowns that I just don't see around around the
internet anyway.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
Well, us about yourself, and I'm justin I'm one of
the co founders of a platform called nature hub dot com,
which is a it's basically a multi vendor marketplace for
people looking for organic products, kind of like locally made
small businesses that are trying to do healthier things or

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who are doing healthier things. So check out nature hub
dot com. I'm gonna I'm about to launch a little
series called health Uncensored next month. I'm gonna start that
out on Christmas, which is when the medical mafia killed
my dad when I was nineteen, So you know, there's
uh that's sort of one of the things that drives

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me is exposing a lot of the the health things
that are or you know, like the you can call
them hell things, you know, the but anyway, uh, that's
part of my background. And then I'm also one of
the co founders of something called the Freedom Support Network,
which started during COVID where they're having everybody trying to

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they're trying to have everybody take these poisonous injections and
wear faced diapers and things like that, and uh so
a lot of people who were not able to work
kind of we we created a network for them to
be able to kind of find each other and help
support each other. So yeah, and one day I would
like to move to the South Pacivic and do missions,

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but we're still always away from there. I think.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Great. All right, thank you so much guys for introducing yourself. Michael,
go ahead with your first question.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hellelujah.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, great to have all of you guys here together.
So just to back up to Enoch about the White
Freemasonry and the quantum technology, So how is it with
all of your wide knowledge we've done some shows before.
How did you kind of boil it down to that?

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Because some people might just take that as just one topic,
the white versus black freemason's quantum technology. And then you're
suddenly talking about prayer, which is great because that's exactly
what I believe is the only way to face this
coming AI quantum revolution. And and uh, and we'll have

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to tie it into Justin's vision and homesteading and where
we live in North Carolina, there's a lot of homesteading.
Uh that was already started, but now it's going to
overdrive because of the hurricane. So yeah, So Enoch like
just to just kind of boil that down for us,
like how did you just choose that one thing and

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then suddenly okay, prayer, Like why not any other stuff? Well,
why not aliens? Where are the aliens? Enoch?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, I certainly talk about aliens. I disclose that. But
there again, so many people have done that already. H
I just I just point people to who've who's already
done that work. I don't need to redo it in
my videos, right, I say, look at these guys, look
at these guys and check out my library, right, So

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so uh. One of the one of the things was
because I found myself in twenty twenty that that whole
Q deception. So it fascinated me because I knew about
government finance, and what the Q deception was talking about

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was getting into the fake finance that we were in.
And so I'm like, oh my god, someone's actually talking
about this. Someone's speaking, you know, some truth to that,
and they weren't speaking all the truth to it, but
they were certainly exposing it. And I was really excited
about that, again because I didn't know about this duality
and I didn't know I didn't understand all the strategies

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that these the Masonic and the Satanic world uses yet,
so I was I was like, oh, wow, this is great.
So I started looking into it further and it took
about six to eight months, and then it I was
firmly grasped, and this is Satanic. This is something that
is passive. Find the other side of the of the

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like the ones that are already pacified and are fully
fully in it. The ones who are waking up, well,
they believe that they found the answer in this Q
deception side, and that's really what it was meant to
do is to pacify people. But within there I found
that Queen Romana Dedulo individual and so I vetted. I

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vetted her, and I believe she is legitimate. She's going
to be one of the end time king She's going
to be in charge of one of the end time
kingdom kingdoms. Excuse me, and so is ze in China
and Putin and Russia, and there's another one I can't
remember anyway right now, But at any rate, she was

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disclosing a lot. And I signed on in that group
to work on the med beds because I thought, Oh,
that's fantastic beds. Great, right, And then and then uh,
she started posting like real new agey stuff. Oh that's
not good, right, and and it just got more and

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more into that deep grand rising everyone right, that the
whole Great White Brotherhood nonsense, and which is is going
to play a big role in the end times. Just
so everybody's aware the Great if you don't know about them,
I'm putting into my new video which just was writing
about it last night.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
When you said end time Kingdom, are you talking about
God's kingdom and time or are we talking about the enemy?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
The ten the ten kingdoms in the.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
The ten the ten kings in the ten kingdoms.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I don't say ten kings
because there are some queens and well, I mean they
could be queens if you know what I mean. I
mean men pretend to queens, but like we do that
that that stuff exists. But h but yeah, that's why
I say kingdoms because there's the kingdom and if they

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are females in charge of that dominion, then that could
confuse people. So but yeah, anyway, so I right when
that stuff started, and this would be June of two
thousand and one, I think, and then that's when I
was like, well, wait a minute, and so I realized, oh,

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this is a benevolent cult sort of thing that I've joined.
Isn't that wonderful? But it didn't take me long. It
took me just a couple of months, and a couple
of a couple of other Christians that were in there
were like, this is not good, and so we ended
up chatting and I started a group in telegram and
then the group has just grown grow slowly because I
talk about the stuff that news doesn't talk or the

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other side don't talk about. People don't know about it,
and people don't share information anymore. Really, so my group's
growing really slow because people only start researching until when
they're told to start researching something, when they're told about something,
So I don't my stuff doesn't get a lot of
traction because people don't know about it. And uh yeah,

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so that's that's really what brought me around to building
all this stuff because we need to know about this
future technology, this quantum stuff. And I don't know if
you guys know who David Beverly is, but he's an
ex NASA, and I don't mean like a janitor at NASA.
He's had a special project's NASA. And he he thought
that I was insane when I was talking about the

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med bets if you watch my med bed video. And
then he saw a course based on quantum physics and
plasma and he's like, you're dead on with with what's coming.
It's it's not fantasy, it's literally this stuff is literally coming.
And you know, he's like, I'm sorry about that, and
you know you're not as insane as I thought you were.

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God those are my words, not his, but but but yeah,
so like this stuff is real, it's coming and you
need to understand this, this quantum technology, it's it's it's
vital because I mean, the great deception isn't what I
thought it was. The great deception is in this quantum

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technology where it can replace your thoughts, replace your mind.
You can be mind swapped and to have a whole
new identity and you won't even realize it because you
don't have the protection of God because you left God.
Because you left God, God didn't leave you. Because you
left God, you no longer have that protection through your
choice falling it, the great falling away is what I'm
talking about, and then your mind can be replaced in

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the end times. You have no idea of who you
were a year ago, for example, Like it's the technology
that's coming is razy advanced and people have no clue.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
What I know that when you guys are talking to
the Camp Hormont guys, you had talked about some of
the things that that you perceived that aren't s goid
to befall America. What would you say would be the
main reason why you would consider moving to another country

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for safety for you and your families? What would be
something like the top like two or three reasons why
you would consider moving to another country. Well, you know,
he's not in the US, but he's in Canada, of course.
But what would be some of the reasons why you
think that an American person should flee to another country.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Yeah, so I was born in the US. I've been
out of the US also for the last five or
six years. You know, I think that you know, I
said something about waking up, and I think a lot
of a lot of people these days they wake up
through pain. That's that's how I woke up, when when
I realized what had happened to my dad, and that

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kind of put me on a journey of oh wait,
it's not all sunshine and rainbows, and like the Christian
Church isn't necessarily always what you think it is. And
in terms of just looking into different denominations and realizing
a lot of them are actually being controlled by the enemy.
But I think right now we're in a situation where
there's so much pacification and control through so many technologies,

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so many medications, just so much psychological subversion. It's hard
to really it's hard for people to wake up because
they're like the whole society is being based around convenience
and basically making things painless, you know, like two day Amazon.
I think that for me, I've always kind of sensed
that that wasn't right, and I've seen the trajectory like

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play out over the course of the last twenty years.
When growing up in the US, it was like everybody
wanted to be American. It was the you know, it's
the of you know, civilization. Now we see that crumbling,
but at the same time as it's crumbling, people are
are sort of you know, I think I think there's
a For me, I've noticed that there's a lot of

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false awakenings, and one of them happens through like the
political cycle, you know, like every every every time it happens,
You've got a lot of people who, once their person
gets an office, are like, ah okay, And I think,
you know, that's that's one of the tools. But I
think for me leaving that that sort of uh, that
matrix of pacification and control and just you know comfort

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at every level is actually uh, really good. I think
it could. It could. It can be a game changer
in terms of just like spiritually, when you when you
actually have to do work, it kind of and when
you have to get through challenges as a community apparently
in Taiwan. Uh. You know, my situation is a little
different because I was looking when I first went to

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beIN Watched, I was looking for an escape haven for
my family. People often warn me about being in Taiwan,
They say, hey, what are you doing over there? Shouldn't
you come home?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Now?

Speaker 6 (21:07):
I heard that there's like warships around Taiwan, and I'm like, well,
if World War three kicks off, I'm not gonna be safe,
and you're probably not going to be safe either, because
if you ever read you know, the Art of War,
you know, China isn't going to just like, you know,
tap us on the shoulder and say, hey, guys, we're
starting war. It'll be all probably all in. And so
I was looking for a place. Vin Watsu checked a

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lot of the boxes in terms of it doesn't have
any military bases or military alliances. It's very insignificant, but
it has a lot of land, very dispersed islands. Not
a lot of land compared to most big countries, but
it's got quite quite a lot of land compared to
a lot of Pacific island nations. It's just it's well positioned,

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and I don't think that it's going to be a
place where anybody's going to really care about the enemy
is going to kind of be focused on other venues. Yeah,
so I think as an American, even if I was
in America, would I would be I would be thinking
the same thing. I don't know when things are gonna
hit the fan, but I think that it's wise to

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to be looking for a place to flee when the
days are evil, you know, the wise look for a
place of refuge. That's not an exact quote, but I'm
pretty sure that's in there in the Bible. So much.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
Just sorry about your father passing. That's really heartbreaking.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Well, I think that, you know, for those out there listening,
when you encounter pain and it causes you to wake up,
you should consider it a blessing. I you know, a
lot of very very tragic, painful things, you know, they
lead us to the light. And so you know, I'm
at the end of the day, I saw miracles happening
through that. So it was a joyous time as well.

(22:56):
But yeah, definitely not not a not fun or you
know anything, but yeah, yeah, thanks.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
What the enemy intended for evil, God intends for good.
That he can flip at every tragic thing such as
your father passing. My mother passed when I was young
as well, at age twelve, so I definitely amplathize for sure. Well,
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com and Edoch. What are some reasons that you would
encourage an American to leave America.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
One of the things that that I've been doing again
looking at future, looking into the future. Not as I'm
not saying I am a prophet. I'm not saying that
God speaks to me about the future. I have had
the flood dreams, I have had a attack dreams, stuff

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stuff like that of nightmares, you know, things like that.
Those those have been experiences. But and I'm also I've
also had a lot of dreams of yeah, you need
to apologize to this person, so I got get on
that too. But anyway or not apologies, but you know,

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you know, break bread again and but anyway, like the again.
Not a prophet, I'm not saying I'm a prophet at all,
but what I what I have done is I've looked
into the future of of what's coming, the technology, the plans.
Everybody is pretty much aware of twenty thirty plans. Well

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first it was twenty twenty five, now twenty thirty. They
all sound all like bluff and rainbows and wonderful until
you look into them deeper. I go a little bit
into those in my transhuman video, like there's if you're
looking to get all these all these specific things done

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in Agenda twenty thirty, that's something that the people will
have to be forced into doing in order to reach
those goals, for example, and the United States will be
the muscle, the world muscle behind all of that, and
in the United States has done quite The United States

(25:49):
has basically been the world police for the for what
we're discovering right now are the world horrors child trafficking.
That's so that's and just when I say child trafficking, trafficking,
I'm talking about children being used for sex, right, Like

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that's these are dark things that are happening around the world,
and so I don't want to make light of it,
of how awful and horrible that this stuff is. And
the United States is the big pornography, so a whole
bunch of sex acts, right, I like, in my next video,
I want to just put a warning and I'm going

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to go through all of these things. Right, this is
what is propagating from from the United States, like to
hit home that it's not it's not the stuff isn't
being invented and coming out of Russia. This stuff isn't
being invented and coming out of South Africa or name
it Australia or whatever they're doing it there now to
But where did it come from? It came from It

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came from the United States. And then you have the
wars and the you have anyway, So so all this,
all this sort of stuff that's coming and then the
future laws that that are already put in place. We're
already being warned about the the no I laws, the
what's the Muslim one Sharia law is going to be

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implemented in some states and civil war is planned for
the United States and excuse me. And also the Antichrist
is going to be coming out of the United States.
The the whole Beast system of the first part of
the Beast is the United is coming from the United States,

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and that's why the beast system destroys the United States.
Like I'm getting I'm I'm going to get very deep
into this in in my next video so people can
So if you have questions or you are like what,
I'm going to put it all together so that it
will make sense and it pretty much will be undeniable
what I talk about, or you have to have these

(28:05):
amazing blinders on, which again spiritually, if you are not
a lover of the truth, you will have those blinders
on and you will disregard everything that I talk about
as that's that's written, that's prophecy. That is written in prophecy.
So so yeah, anyway, what's going to happen is the
United States is going to be the scapegoat for all

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of the Earth's miseries, which means the Americans are going
to be hated like cross the Earth. Everyone is going
to hate the United States for for what's going to
be and what's going to becoming stuff that haven't hasn't
transpired yet. Legalizing pedophilia for one, right, that's that's coming
down down the block, you know. So all these sort

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of things. And if you have children, uh, and you
are in the United States and you know that it's
basically going to be a gay pride parades every day,
do you want to have your children there? Do you
want to raise him in that? I get that the
United States has been your home for a long time,
but it is now. It is a fallen empire, and

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it is it just hasn't. It's at that it's at
that uh breactice. That's the rollercoaster. When it happens, it
happens now. I'm not saying this, this is going to happen.
One of the things that was brought up in my

(29:34):
telegram group by my admin actually a great guy. He's
an Orthodox Christian and so he we have we have
lovely talks. We get, we have a nice prayer group together,
Bible study and but anyway, he was talking about, I
bet you something like a nuclear a nuclear bomb will

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hit in the United States very so un to cause
an emergency for martial law. And then the death of
Biden and the death of Trump, death of a part
of the death of Trump, and then civil War and
all that sort of too tumbling because once you see
the death of Trump, once you see that that officially happening,

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you can see everything else getting that that whole time
where he was shot first in the ear and he
got up, fight, fight, right when they did that, that
is going to be when Trump dies, that is going
to be the poster shot of the civil war movement
for the people going against the tyrannical government. Right, That's

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that's the setup. It's going to be the people or
the states versus federal the federal government. So, yeah, all
this stuff is coming. So you do not want Number One,
you do not want an American passport. You do not
want to be in America when this comes down, and
it's going to be, and when that becomes apparent that
you don't want to be there, it's most likely going

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to be too late for those who who who want
to escape unless they have a passport from another country.
And and and so basically what we're trying to do
is for the wise, for the people who really see
who are coming or willing to listen or are open
to it. For when I get this video done to

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show you what's coming, there's there's something that you can do,
and you can do it before the craziness happened, so
you at least can get settled. And you're not You're
not You're not trying to escape when everyone else is
trying to escape all the chaos. There's going to be
so many refugees from the United States. It's it's going

(31:43):
to be crazy because no one can afford to move
when that when that time happens, that the dollar is
going to be so worthless that you won't be able
to buy gas, you won't be able to to uh,
there'll be no food being transported around. Oh it's you know,

(32:04):
so doing it while you still have that ability right now,
and it's never been better. Once once Trump was became
the incumbent. He's not president yet he became the incumbent.
What happened The world got right again. The world all
of a sudden boom, everything's like that is insane for

(32:25):
everything all of a sudden to turn around. Now Putin
isn't going to go to war, and all these other
people are requesting to be up be placed off the
terror list, and they're calling it the Trump effect. Really
he's not president yet, there is there should be no
Trump effect because he's not in power yet. So anyway,
it's all this stuff is quite obvious unless you're under

(32:49):
mind control, and in the United States is under heavy
mind control or heavy heavy spiritual. Well, what what is
it like when you play a song over and over again? Well,
that that is mind control. That's a that's a form.
It's it's a it's hypnosis, thank you, hypnosis. Yeah, you

(33:13):
play something over and over again, Like if there's a
song and you hear it and you can't stand it, right,
you just cannot stand this song, but they keep playing
it over in the radio and then eventually you like it.
It's the same thing, so you keep hearing over and over.
Make America great again, Make America great again. I've seen
so many people are awake go back to sleep in this.

(33:33):
In this election and during the election, all of my
Christian friends from the United States were aggressive and really
negative towards me and and and rude and like it
was it was really crazy. And here I was, I
might like my head was just right just coming down

(33:56):
on me, and I was there coming at me. With
all this uh negativity, and I'm like, world, I'm going
to tell you something, and then I just hold on
a second, what is going on? Because I did the
anatomy for prayer. I understand what prayer. I understand what
the demonic realm does. And I just backed away from
my computer. I turned away from it, and then I

(34:17):
did deliverance on myself and they just came out of me.
And when they come out of me, I know they
come out of me because I do this, that's pretty much.
And the demons were just just coming out of me
and you just get you know, you're all tingly and
they're just and then the anger is gone. Then this

(34:40):
pressure was coming down in my head right and and
so there was heavy spiritual warfare coming from from that realm.
So I don't I'm not angry. I'm not angry any
of any of them. I understand what I understand that
we were all under major attack. It's just if you

(35:00):
were doing that and coming after your brothers, you need
to realize when you're under attack. How when you're going
in the end times and you're you're surrounded by demonic energies,
you have to be able to read them. And know
how to pray against them to get them out of yet. Right, anyway,
that was very long. I apologize.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
I'd like to get Michael. Yes, it possible. Yes, So
you know, you mentioned Trump, and you know, like I
think Trump has generally been an anti He's been perceived
as an anti war candidate, and I just want to
remind people Obama was also and Trump has been very
much eager to get into some kind of conflict with

(35:43):
Iran if you go back to what he said about it.
So it's you know, I think for me, I've noticed
as an America, we really don't have much of an option.
You know, it'd be great if Ron Paul could be
elected and we can start disassembling the government and really
ending the wars. But it seems like no matter what happens,
there's always going to be one of these conflicts burning,
and there's always going to be some blood on our
hands as Americans through our taxes. And so I think

(36:05):
that we need to when we're kind of pondering these questions,
it's really not so crazy to think about going to
a foreign land. I mean, that's what Americas started. As
you know, you had a lot of profiteers coming to
the US. But you also had a lot of religious
folks who they really just didn't want to be involved
in all of the empirical wars of imperial wars of
Great Britain. And so this is kind of I think

(36:28):
it's actually a lot more logical than people think. Hopefully
we'll get a chance to explain some of the kind
of give you a sense of what Van Watu is like.
But you know, there's I think I think I know
so many Americans here they're just like, well, I've got
my gun, I've got my goal, and I'm I'm going
down with the ship. Like there's just but it's like,

(36:49):
you know, you live by the sword, you die by
the sword. It doesn't have to be that way. Like
you know, I guess saying there is still time, so
you know, maybe you're called to be in the US
and there's no problem with that. But I think that
you know, have having people go out isn't Isn't that
crazy of an idea? I know it sounds crazy, but.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
Thank you for your thoughts. You know you wanted to
say something.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Were yeah, yeah, with that whole pray and spray idea,
which is that that comes from the the neo the
neo Christian right, So neil a neo Christian is someone
who who is country first, basically country before Christ or

(37:30):
before Jesus. They just aren't aware of it. Their their
idol is the country a neo Christian. But that that
pray and spray mentality is it has been put in
place to destroy you. Basically, you're you're going to be
murdering other people before you get taken out.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Just so we're clear.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
And but the the other oh, my goodness, the other
point I wanted to make, and it was awesome. Not
on the prey and spray. Oh yes, if you want
to know if you're supposed to be there in uh
in in a place. Number one, you have prayed over
your land. You've completely prayed over your land. You have

(38:12):
food and water. God has told you to have food
and water because there will not be food and water,
so you have that prepared. And the prey over your
land is set like you've staked it. It is fully
preyed up. You don't get any demonic influences on you.
If you've done all this stuff and you are in
constant prayer, I agree with you. You are meant to
be there and you are meant to fight in the

(38:35):
United States if you are like, I have my gun
and I'm going to defend it. How I'm going to
defend it? Yes, sir, right there, you're drilling at home, son,
So oh it's terrible.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Come on, mister a Canadian a country accent.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
What sense then me want to go to when in
my prayer, I'm going to pray and then I'm going
to pray. Uh but uh but yeah, so if if
you're meant to you have.

Speaker 5 (39:10):
I'm sorry, just just to for the listening audience. Maybe
if somebody is e s L. English has a second language,
they might not understand what pray and spray means. Could
you explain that.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
That that means?

Speaker 6 (39:25):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (39:25):
You know, they pray to God Jesus protect me while
I shoot these other people with.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
My gun pray with their gun. Gotcha?

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
A good guy here as I mow down other human
beings and instead of turning to prayer and.

Speaker 5 (39:43):
Oh gotcha okay, And that's not an attitude we should happen.
Michael Basha, go ahead and ask your question.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
I'm listening to what you're saying, and I'm not afraid
to wield this bibble right about let not your heart
be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in me. Yeah,
and I go and prepare a place for you. And
everyone should read John fourteen fifteen often because what you're
talking about, Enoch and I include this vision of Vanuatu

(40:28):
and getting land and having a foot outside of America,
but not necessarily completely maybe giving up on it. I
did that. I moved to Taiwan. That's where I met
Justin by the way, and we met on the basis
of these topics. We were talking about a lot with
a mutual friend named Dan that was like a Morpheus

(40:52):
kind of mentor to me in early two thousands. Kind
of reclusive blogger has kind of faded away like obi
Wan now, but we often remember those wonderful times of
passing out tracks, getting souls and then going home and
talking about the end times. I have all these tracks
in here. I'm in the launder room, so I hope

(41:13):
the laundering machines are going. But like having these tracks,
like right by the door you go out, and now
I'm working with not directly officially, well kind of. I've
joined their church online, the Eagle Mountain Church, and I've
been texting with their primary pastor doing outreach here in
North Carolina. Where I mean the amount of spiritual warfare here,

(41:36):
I don't even know where to start. Like my grandfather
worked with Derek Prince very closely. It was all about
spiritual warfare. My uncle runs this right now. And yes,
it's the end times. Yes, everything that Enoch said at
least it's the enemy's plan. I'm not going to just

(41:57):
repeat everything the enemy says, though, I'm going to repeat
what the Word of God says and then use this
opportunity as great on time and purposive souls to try
to get people into the Kingdom. And yes, the only
way I believe we can stay ahead of the AI
is prayer, actual prayer, because the AI knows the Bible,
it knows how to act Christian, it has good theology.

(42:18):
Even the only thing the AI doesn't have is the
Holy Spirit. And Jesus said, I will bring to your remembrance.
The Holy Spirit will bring to your re memborance all
the things that I've said unto you. So when you're
praying in tongues and hash and then the Lord gives
you that verse, boom, It's like okay, needle through the thread,
you nail it, and it's going to be David and Goliath.

(42:39):
Like I'm on my show. I read the Bible only
and I ran, so I don't need to rant here
over you guys. But this was in a prayer call
prior to this talk. We were praying over I ran
or Israel. I don't know. We were all over the place,
and I wasn't even sure what to pray, and I
just kind of asked the Lord what to pray, and
then he reminded me of my shows with David getting

(43:02):
anointed by Samuel. It's kind of a kind of not
the most interesting chapter. It's sort of like, okay, here's
we David and Samuel annoints him, and then the very
next chapter is David and Goliath. And I never knew
those chapters were next to each other. So you're reading
verse five verse David shows up and he's just like,
who is this some circumcised philistine who dares defy the

(43:26):
armies of the Living God? And You're like, what, this
is so powerful? And Saul, it's like, okay, you you
save us. Because everyone was full of fear because they
were listening to the words of fear for forty days
from the Philistine. Oh it's all gonna happen this way. Oh,
it's all gonna happen this way. Well, I'm learning from

(43:47):
the church that I'm a part of the from Terry
Copeland Pearson's actually this is her dad, break the chain
of worry, you know how to live in the Bible.
Not that we don't know of these things. People should
definitely listen to Enoch Putris and I would like to
do more shows with them. But it's it's the vision.
It's like not saw ninety one, ten thousand people, thousand

(44:11):
people on your right hand and the left hand. But
it shall not come nithy because the Lord has set
his he's overshadowing you, and he's covering you. And right
where I live, not a single structure got damaged. But
just down the street, I'm hearing reports of child trafficking,
governments taking people's land and children, and it's weird, creepy

(44:32):
FEMA people that look like they don't have souls with clipboards.
The conspiracies, they're true, they're not conspiracies. They're actually taking
people's kids. So prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer, And what's
great about you, guys, is it offers a chance for
the people to pray with the understanding. So you're not
just like praying for Aunt Betsy to get vaccinated. Oh,

(44:55):
she just won't take it. You're like, you know that
thing is bad, praying against it. That's an extreme example,
but I've heard of people praying for that. Okay, I'll
shut up.

Speaker 4 (45:07):
No targeted prayer right, like, you know, because that's what
I talk about here. It's all about being prepared targeted
prayer so you know exactly what to hit. You're not
doing a everything over a generic general electric style U
prayer that you're you're targeting it. You you because when

(45:30):
you understand like the twelve types of prayers and you
understand what they're meant to do, then in how how
it activates the spirit realm, then you know you'll you'll
be much more defective in as a Christian, especially if

(45:53):
you're one of the remnant, if you are blessed to
be one of the remnant. Right, I'm not saying just
because I know all this stuff, that I'm going to
be one of them.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Right Ah, that's right, And that's what I was nodding
in agreement with you when you mentioned that QAnon people
were falsely awakened. It was so weird to be around
people in that cult when I moved to the States
in twenty nine eighteen, and it was like, you guys,
do you do realize that this is totally anonymous and
there's no way to know. It's like the eye of

(46:23):
Sauron or something that Gandolf is like whatever that ball is,
and he's.

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Like Sorrow money.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
No, we don't know who could be looking on the other.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Side, Like it would be wise Gandolf to join Sorrow.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
It's like or whatever saur On it would be should
get together and do some radio broadcasts and biblical radio broadcasts.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Well we kind of are doing a biblical radio broadcast,
but okay, no.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
No, like a you know, like a radio show. You
know what, you know what?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I see your sarcasm, and I raise you ten sarcasms.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
I'm going to I'm going to act really offended right now.
That's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Be really good.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
I love all of you guys.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
This is so fun. It is serious, though. I just
got off the phone. They're taking people's kids, yes, just
trying to take the I don't know Tia her name
is Tia. Anybody listening is pray for Tia to get
saved and for six children not to get taken.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
Yes. Absolutely, they're definitely using the Western North Carolina incident
to do all kinds of evil things to those people,
like human trafficking and raping and pillaging quite literally pillaging
their they're homes. It is so crazy, for sure.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
So the first example, right, that's that's you're being shown
a pattern that is going to happen across the United
States what they did, for example, that's an example, that's
the first. But it was a they have a planned
pattern of how they're going to attack, right, destroy the land,
come in and then take it. You're you're going to
be offered seven hundred and fifty bucks or whatever it is,

(48:06):
and if you don't pay that back within the year,
your land is forfeit.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Right.

Speaker 5 (48:10):
That's and there's hardly anyone that even qualifies for that
measly hundred and fifty dollars anyway, which is crazy. I know,
very out of every one person that is offered that,
uh there's about one hundred other people, not even one
other people that that didn't qualify for whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
So enot congested one of the things that I found
quite interesting in Enox video. I'm I'm not sure if
you happen Justin and Michael Bashev, if you happen to
watch Enox, very excellent, most excellent video.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
In the tone of Billington was the well, it's Enox
channel the rundown over our reality, and it's called you
are Already transhuman? So you know, could you give us
a rundown or a nutshell of that that of reality
right of that documentary?

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Yeah, I think, and I think Michael and I got
together and we talked about that a bit earlier in
the year. I think February or March, I can somewhere
around there. But yeah, so You're already transhuman is about nanotechnology.
And this is how small nanotechnology is. You can fit
you can fit on a side of a piece of paper, right,

(49:28):
so I don't know I'm using it, but anyway, on
the side of a piece of paper, you can fit
one hundred nanobots vertically on a side. That's how small
they are. So nanotechnology, We've been fed it. It's being
sprayed in the sky along with other things, and it's

(49:49):
growing within us. Itself replicates in our body and the
foods that we're eating are the foods that it requires.
That's why were we have so much empty calorie food
UDEs and are uh pros are highly processed because you're
the spice mix that they have has this nano technology
in it. The the the pop that you're drinking is

(50:12):
filled with that nanotechnology. And so when you when you
guzzle that stuff down, you're guzzling a big water nanotechnology.
And there's there's people that have actually taken it, put
it under a microscope microscope and have watched it a
self assemble. So once it reaches uh, I think once
it reached reaches a specific temperature. Because they they kept

(50:34):
the the the shot, the the harm that causes harm
that they put in the arm, uh, they keep that
really cold so that it's not it doesn't self assemble it.
It sort of stays in a stasis and then once
it warms up within your body, then it starts to
go to work. So so yeah, the the you're always

(50:56):
you're already transhuman goes into the makeup of what all
all of that is. And then I have some prayers
at the end of it, and I have I also
have in the health folder. If you link if you go,
if you watch the video and you click on the
link in the description to the library to the health folder.

(51:19):
There's options in there too, the of things that you
can do to prepare, but the biggest thing is to
understand prayer and and and how to disarm that stuff
through through the hand of God through the Holy Spirit.
But yeah, anyway, it's it just shows you the evil
that's coming. You can't ignore it.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
What are some ways that we can counteract all of
these things that they're trying to do to the tymple
of God our bodies. What are some natural and supernatural
remedies and solutions that we can do to maybe detoxify
from all this stuff the nanotechnology, the gallons or whatever.

(52:03):
What can we do? Would you like to, you know,
just both.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Chime in, justin do you have any suggestions, because you
are the you have them.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Yeah, there's a So this isn't health advice. I have
to say that or the CDC might come and arrest me.
But during the the CONVID situation, uh, there was a
scientist who got basically kicked out of UNC, which is
one of the major universities that was doing the the

(52:36):
poisonation research but he was doing research at the time
basically proving that nyasin nyasinemide. It's it's a compound that's
very vital to the cells. It's it's one of the
it's probably the second most important I guess nutrient aside
from vitamin C. But it's it's it's one the B vitamins,

(53:00):
but it's a it's basically it's B three by the way,
but it's it's basically been kind of kept quiet, and
so it would have been as easy for people to
to get rid of their their symptoms for most people,
uh you know, I guess some of the people got
very severe damage with the clotting and whatnot. But according
to Dimitri cats which is this doctor out of unc

(53:23):
basically you can get rid of most of those symptoms.
You can dissolve the a lot of the cloths with
nice cinemid. That's why some of the some people you
might have heard saying that tobacco will cure covid or whatever,
but actually it's it's the core ingredient nice cinemide or
nice and so that's one of the things. I mean,
there's there's so many things, and that's that's why one

(53:44):
of the reasons that I'm I'm going to be doing
this Health Uncensored series next month is because there's just
so much of it out there. Like once you start
digging and you can't dig on Google because Google is
completely censured, You're you're going to find that on like
page one hundred. Actually Google only goes is about to
a page hundred. They say a million results, but that's
a lie. But I mean the point is is you've

(54:06):
got to search on alternative platforms. You might find things
on bit shoot, for example, instead of YouTube I'm brave,
instead of Google. But even a lot of those they're
getting the they're getting the results. Even Brave it is
getting the results kind of censory because it's pulling it
from censored resources. Anyway, what did you ask the second thing?

(54:27):
I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah, actually that's Russian, but it
actually ends up getting you better results. It's kind of funny,
but yeah. So another one is like I think a
lot of the diseases that people suffer from I'm not
sure about more gel And specifically, but I think a
lot of that is parasitic in nature, and so taking
anti parasite anti parasitics like green walnut hole is can

(54:52):
work wonders for people. I know a lot of people
who the doctors had no idea what was going on,
and then they took anti parasite, any parasitics, and their
sentence went away. A lot of the stuff, like you know,
qui sin is in the actual food. A lot of
people who have stopped eating certain types of food that
have been sprayed with like g lifissate, especially the ones
the foods that are genetically modified or they use lifisate

(55:13):
like with like glutens. A lot of the grains they
spray it with basically round up before they harvest it.
So you're going to get that inside you. But it's
not just that now, it's the you do have some
of this other technology. But yeah, there's no way to
get rid of all of it. I mean, it's they're
they're spraying the stuff on people. It's in the it's
in the water. Like if you are not living in

(55:33):
a glass bubble, then you're probably exposed to quite a
lot of it. So you know, prayer is good when
you're under you know, just as a practical thing, even
if you're not into spirituality, like you know that what
Michael was bringing up about not worrying is pretty useful
because when you're stressed out, you're you're you're going to
put your body into a state of fight or flight,

(55:58):
and you're going to be releasing a lot of hormones
that are going to be working against you anyway. So
that's that's my piece on that. But will be I
don't I'm not the expert on this health stuff. That's
why I'm going to be doing a show on it,
introducing people to some of the experts who have dug
really deep into this stuff.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Is nia cinemaid Is that the same thing as NAC.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
It's similar, It's similar, I think is actually a more
I could be wrong on this in some way since
I looked into it, but I'm pretty sure NAC is
actually a more like simple compound, and nice cinemide is
like that plus like something else. But it's they're in
the same kind of family tree of molecular compounds.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Okay, So I take NAC and I was taking glutifio
because I think both of those were to interact the
spike proteins and the body caused by the JAB. You know,
I'm sorry you were going to say something.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
No, I was breathing and playing with my teeth, with
my tongue. That's what I do when it's just you know,
this is.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
A really huge topic that people get sucked into, just
the concept of nanobots being sprayed on everybody in checked everybody,
and they're just saying, you cannot escape. You will each nanobugs,
and Jay will make you into one of my.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
Silly little happy clonese slaves. Yeah, I'm going to be
so happy. I will stap my fingers and clap and
you will dance anyway, Just thinking about the blood of
Jesus and the Word of God and the power of
communion and what we're taught to receive the word. When

(57:44):
the word is sown in Mark chapter four, it starts
to produce, and they're trying. They don't have the word.
The enemy does not have eternal life, he does not
have the Gospel, he does not have the Word. And
so this is like his version of it. And we
have the ability to sow the word into people, like

(58:04):
when you witness, when you're sharing God's love with someone,
like really sharing and praying for them, not just like
years a Bible and running away or something, or like
lazy American Christians come to my church, and their church
is like just condemning themselves with like worstners saved by
grace and that's it. Give us money.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I mean, they do the testimony to get saved, soul saved.
But what I'm saying is there's a totally radically active
type of what we're discussing. This technology is providing framework.
When I'm studying the word, I can fall back and
look at whow they have nano attack that like changes
like your brain can be altered, what I can become.

(58:49):
That's literally what happens when you become filled with Holy Spirit.
It's like you you, your old identity is no longer.
I'm no longer who I was. I am a new creator.
And most Christians they stagger at that. That's like, whoa,
that's a little too much for me. Abraham did not stagger.
It an unbelief. So we have an opportunity here to

(59:10):
get ahead of this stuff and then receive the fullness
of the kingdom. I'm excited. I'm sorry, I'm just I
don't wake up in fear. If I feel fear, it's
like whooh, yuck. It's like catching a cold or something's
like gonna drink some vitamin sea, some ginger tea, getting
some blankets. You know, it's to me, all of this
is just making me more trembling at the Word of

(59:33):
God and excited about the future, about the antime Church
and yeah, ntime prophecy. I'm all about it. I just
don't I don't really look at it as much time wise.
I'm interested to see how it all plays out, but
more in terms of how I can pray. And when
we were I woke up the moment that ICVM was

(59:53):
hitting Ukraine. I was up late the night before. I
don't know what woke me up. I was just up
and it was prayer time and bless time, bliss out
in God, prayer time. And then I look at the
phone and sure enough that icbmhead looks like the death
Star just hit Ukraine. The night before we were in

(01:00:14):
a prayer call, a very focused prayer call regarding a
possible attack from Russia, that it would not be anything,
it would be like almost just a sign of God's
holding things back, a dud almost. And indeed this ICBM
if you I don't know if you guys were even
following that, because the public doesn't even seem to be
allowed to know about this, but the power of prayer

(01:00:37):
is far, far more powerful than an ICBM, even if
it had nuclear power in it or a nanotech. But yeah, anyway,
that's my that's what I wanted to add. Hallelujah. This
is fun to hang out with. Fear is good, right,
It's a force like faith, fear versus faith. It's two choices.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Yeah, I use I use this and now I use
when I talk about fear for people so they can understand.
You're walking down the street, boom boom, boom, all of
a sudden, a nephelom, a fourteen footer is in front
of you. You will have instant fear. Anyone who says, ah,
Lord has given me a spirit that will not fear

(01:01:21):
like shush, you are going to be afraid. You are
going to be terrified the moment that that happens. But
then you're going to like the moment that happens boom,
You're gonna be It will scare. I don't care who
you are, you will be scared unless it's your undearth
time and you're you're you're you've now adjusted. But this

(01:01:42):
is the first time you're boom boom of fourteen twitter
is in front of you. You know he's there. You
know he's there to eat you. Boom prayer, it hits you,
you know what you're supposed to do to pray against it.
You know that you have you have angels, you have
the the chariots all around you in the spirit realm.
You know exactly how to pray against that. And that

(01:02:03):
is so it's the practice that we do in the
prayers now to understand how to make yourself efficient in
the future. So you will feel fear instantly when when
something like that comes upon you, if your roof is collapsing,
you will instantly at that moment feel fear. And then

(01:02:23):
how fast you collect yourself, whether it's instantly in five
seconds or after five minutes whatever, to collect yourself and
start praying against it right like they'll be there'll be
that instant fight or flight, and then they'll be they'll
be the the reaction. And if you're trained to react,
how fast can you react into that into that prayer,

(01:02:45):
right into that prayer life. So they so when a
lot of people are like afraid, I have no fear
when that gunfire comes, You're gonna be You're gonna have
that adrenaline, You're you're not gonna be all cool as
you hey and you start, You're not gonna walk out
and have no fear man, pray and spray. That's not anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
So because I had people come at me in a
in a in a prayer group, well, I have no
fear of God has given me. You are terrified right now?

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Well that's what the scripture says, that in the end
days that men's hearts will fail due to the terrible
things they'll be coming upon the earth. Paraphrase. Hey, guys,
what why do you think that the powers that be
are trying to specifically target America versus some of these
other countries.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Well, uh, America gets mystery, Babylon gets a double portion, right, mystery,
Babylon gets a double portion. But the there are there
are places. Justin made a wonderful map of destruction. Through
the map of destruction. I don't mean that it's wonderful

(01:04:00):
to the destruction. I mean he built a map that
illustrates the destruction that's going to be coming. That the
planned destruction of twenty twenty five, the population loss through
the Degal Report, And I think that is in our
video that we did for on the rundown of our reality.

(01:04:24):
For the van Watu.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
Episode, you can see a lot of the countries in
the world are are also very very hard hit. So
it's not just the US. There's going to be a
lot of other countries that are allied and tied to
the US that are also going to kind of go
down with it. You know, in the Revelation it talks
about the nation's morning when you know that this destruction happens,

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because you know it's also going to affect them, but
some of them are also going to be hit militarily
as well for this kind of destruction to happen that
you're seeing in.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
This why don't you pull it up and talk about
the map a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
Okay, So this is thedigal dot com data from twenty
nineteen where they made a twenty five prediction. Every year
before that they kind of had other predictions, and this
is the it kind of progressively got worse, and this
is the last year before they stopped doing it, and
to think they stop updating the data in about twenty nineteen.
So you can take this with a grain of salt

(01:05:18):
if you want, but to me, it seems somewhat accurate.
Degal dot com is run by people that have links
to military intelligence. And if you look at this map
and you consider the countries that have been causing the
most chaos in the world, a lot of these are
are on there just staring at you in the face.
So the ones that are the countries in black, according

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to Deegal, are the ones that are black with the
dots have somewhere between a fifty and seventy five percent
population loss by twenty twenty five. These are just estimations
by them, So you know, maybe it won't happen in
twenty twenty five, but maybe they maybe it will, and
that's why they pulled it. They don't want people getting
too nervous about it. So these countries that are anywhere

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that's like a dark red, that's also a pretty pretty
heavily hit. You can see the percentages on this map,
but you'll see Israel, France, Germany, the UK, Ireland, Libya,
and the US getting hit the hardest.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
So so mystery Babylon gets a double portion. That's that's
that's through God, that's that's written in prophecy. And so
if the United States is which I believe, I believe
the United States whole harbors the which I say and
what to expect when you're expecting I show it. Uh,
that's that's basically because it is it is the muscle,

(01:06:36):
it is the police force of this this whole system
that we're currently in that is basically it created on
Jekyll Island, the whole monetary Fiat system with fi at
laws that rob us every day. It's like it's just
there's so many levels upon what the United what the
United States has, the people in the United States, and

(01:06:58):
then we have done worldwide in participation of it. When
you know, when we pay taxes, when we when we
when we vote, we participate in voting, we're participating in
this Fiat system that is basically we're participating in statutes,
and statutes only become law through your participation. Anyway, I'll

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hand it over to Justin.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
Yeah. So I think that it's not so much that
the US has been chosen by Satan or or chosen
for this, uh, this position of evil. I think that
really if you go back to scriptures, you're going to
find that now just just pulling one up and when

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you're talking, the whole world is under the control of
the evil one. First John five nineteen, and you know,
you go back to you know, the Messiah was taken
up to the top of the temple and offered you know,
the showing the whole all the kingdoms of the world, right,
and so if if the evil One has the power

(01:08:06):
to offer that, then that I think you can kind
of deduce that the whole world is actually under that
same demonic spell. And the US isn't a certain position.
It's been set up. You know, if you follow the
money back, you know, you could argue, well, maybe it
goes back to Rome or Geneva, Switzerland. But you know,

(01:08:27):
I wouldn't say the US is necessarily special. I don't
think Russia is the good guy in the US is
the bad guy, or vice versa. But you know, it's
it's they're all being set up. This this battle of
the apocalypse isn't really good versus evil. It's well like
evil versus evil, and then you know, Jesus comes back
and sets things straight. You know, That's that's sort of

(01:08:50):
the my perspective. I think, yeah, the US is is
sort of like the military arm of the you know.
But but at the end of the day, if you
look back at the history of the US, A lot
of the founders were you know, into the occult, into freemasonry,
and and who really knows. I mean, look look at
look at the you know, the Saint Peter, the Silica,

(01:09:14):
and look at Washington, d C. And many of these
other places, London, they've all got these these obelisks. What's
up with that? All these pyramids and obelists everywhere. I
think it's just pretty curious. But people don't really notice.
Oh wait, what's that Alca and I and the dollar. Oh,
don't worry about it. It just that's a symbol for God,
you know, just go with it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
That's what I thought for so many years. I used
to tell my husband that the the one eye on
the top of the pyramid on our bill, our dollar bill,
is the eye of God. But it's the eye of
a god, Lucifer. They're the Freemason God or the you know,
Luciferian God, but not God. Yeah. Wah, jehoboh Jesus Christ.

(01:09:53):
Of course, And of course I would know that. It's
like everything is in American like uh, economics and government
or whatever. It's a lot of double speak, you know,
and God we trust, you know, and you know that
the symbols and whatever. So the to the Christian it
looks like the like you know, God, Jehovah Yahweh. But

(01:10:16):
to those who are adepts that are the inside, you know,
they know that it's it's an homage to you know, Lucifer.
That's that's definitely something that was shocking to me. You know.
It's it's hard taking the quote red pill and seeing
what the actual intent is for sure. So guys, what

(01:10:44):
would you say to somebody who's totally skeptical of everything
you guys are saying like, no, that can't happen to
America and you know, and things of that nature. What
would you say to somebody who you know would stay
behind no matter what, would never leave no matter what.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Well, Number one, I could show them the five point
five gigabytes of folder in my in my library of
American patents to the nanotechnology uh and stuff that is
being built and it is all the technology that is

(01:11:21):
that is registered with the United States. That's that's one
thing that that I show them show them. The people
who are like that generally need to see proof. What
or what I find is people need to see the
confession form, which which makes no sense to me. But uh, but.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
It's the confession forum. Tell us about that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
No, No, people need to see a confession before they'll believe.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
It to be Oh, I see, like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
It has to go that far before they'll believe something right,
or has to go through a court of law. Uh So,
so basically you just you just show them the the
evident ants that is mounted against their their position.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
So okay, so, but you need to start from where
they are. You don't start from some crazy man's perspective
all the way in the deep end of the pool,
who you know. So you got to you got to
find out where they are and what what they believe
to be true, and then you build from there in
order to Like. One of the things is things that

(01:12:26):
that that I I like to say is what do
you think about graphine oxide? What's graphine oxide? I'll ask
them what that is? And depending on their answers depending
on where oh so you know about that or oh
you don't. Oh well, graphic oxide is this medical uh invention,

(01:12:47):
and it helps It helps to administer medication, to get
it into you faster, helps to pass the blood brain barrier,
which is interesting. Uh, you know, just just things like
that and that's that's basically where where I would go
if I'm doing a one on one conversation. People are
coming to my channel. They're already coming to Hi. They're

(01:13:09):
already coming. People are my channel, They're already coming, already
Awake a.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Little bit like okay, okay, this is sorry.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Yeah, we would love to have her on board to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Say she was she was surprised. She didn't. She wasn't.
She went to the I think she did. Did you
go to the Bible study on you?

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
She went to Jody House, says Bible Study downtown. So sorry,
I didn't mean to break off your train of thought.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
Was done, No, I was done, Michael. I just I
just need to know for their position, and then I'll
start from from where they are. I'll see where their
logic starts to fail, and then uh work from there.
But they have to have an open mind. If they
have a closed mind, there there is nothing you can
do except pray for them, and you know, send send

(01:14:05):
angels to whisper into them at night while they sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
That is a thing that is definitely a thing we're
praying for. Putin for that, that same kind of thing,
just for angels to work in someone's heart. Just back
to the sowing the seeds, sowing the seeds, sowing the seeds.
So you want to say, understanding, go ahead, justin.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of thoughts
that came to mind. I think a lot of Americans
it's kind of difficult to break through to them, and
they're kind of dead set already, and and I usually
don't spend a lot of time trying to convince them.
I think to those who do have eyes to see
and ears to hear, you know, you can kind of

(01:14:51):
I try to approach it with faith, like if you
feel that you need to leave, then then follow that
boys and if not out of fear, but out of
out of an intention to serve the creator, you know. So,
and and that's that's what we plan to do in
Van Wantu Whi's it's you know there there's certain aspects
I think many people might find America when they really

(01:15:13):
think about it, they might find where they're at suffocating
and you know, you could go, you know, if you're
being called to go out to the mountains. You know,
if I was in the US, I'd probably go out
to the appalaches, you know, but then that's being targeted too,
and it's not like ben wants is this fail safe
plan that can never be attacked. So but you know,

(01:15:33):
we're we're hoping to go there. Also I mentioned, I mentioned,
I mentioned miss missions in the intro. This is this
is a place that speaks a very Actually they speak
pretty much the same type of Creole English as they
speak in Popu ne Guinea. And there's still people allegedly
eating each other like the black magic there is. So

(01:15:54):
it's kind of like as bad as it is in
the US with people doing the child sacrifices underground and stuff,
you know, apparently so, but you know, there's there's also
like no no matter where we are, we have to
be the light. So you know, if you're feeling called
to stay, you know, you know, shield yourself with the
Holy Spirit, make sure you have plenty of food and water.

(01:16:15):
I'm not going to try to convince people, and I'm
not going to say that you don't have ice to see,
ears to hear, because that might be your calling there.
We need to have people in every part of the
world at all times, who are we're able to carry
this message for I just personally have always had this
vision of you know, the South Pacific. Ever since I
was younger, I kind of had this this idea, and

(01:16:36):
so that's where I'm going hopefully.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Oh praise God. Well, you know, one of the things
that Enoch has told me several times was, Jerry, you
have a Thailand passport. You need to use it to
go back to Thailand with your husband or or you know,
Ted has a Canadian dul citizenship, you know in Canada,

(01:17:01):
and I have a dual citizenship in Thailand. That you
need to flee to one of those places very either
very very cold place where Enoch and my husband's family
are ed mint in Alferda, Canada, or a very hot
place in Southeast Asia. And believe it or not, I
really feel that the Lord wants us to stay put
here until further notice. Now, if the Lord would open

(01:17:22):
up a door in one of these places or in Benwatu,
I would gladly go. But I just feel the Lord
has opened a door for us here. What would you
say to somebody that, well, actually, you've already answered this question.
I was kind of I was thinking of a scenario
where someone's a pastor who's witnessing to hallmeless people and
or or if there's a ministry to human trafficking victims

(01:17:45):
here and they're pouring their heart and life and doing
the will of the Lord here, would you tell those
people to leave who are doing God's work here?

Speaker 6 (01:17:54):
I would say absolutely not. But that's just me. They
have to they have to follow the voice of the
spirit of their own their own heart. Yeah. They shouldn't
be asking that question now. They should be asking should
I stay or should I go? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Is there a bomb going to be down on this
is a nuclear warhead going to come down on this
particular city? Do I need to get out of here?
For example?

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
That's that that is something that is very real, like
New York. Yet, do not stay in New York. If
you're in New York. If you're in Washington, d C.
Get out of Get out of Washington, d C. That
place is going to be hit absolutely ondred percent. California,
get out, Get out of California, Get out of there,
get out you know, my terrible one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
So, and then some places in Texas, especially if it's
by the ocean. Uh, there's there's there's a lot of
places that I would absolutely get out of if I'm
in the in the United States. But if if I
have that, if I, like I said, if you've if
you've been praying over land, if you if your prayer

(01:19:07):
life is is amazing and you and you get the
spirit directly and you could hear God and he's telling
you to stay, that's absolutely If you are not praying,
if you're not a prayer, we're praying over the lampard,
praying over the people, praying over teaching about repentance and
praise and worship, and you're not doing any of that stuff,

(01:19:31):
you might as well get out.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
We're sharing your perspectives on that. Michael Gray saying your
lovely wife, even though it was a few seconds, Michael,
did you have any combids or.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Questions everything you guys are talking about as far as relocating, Yeah,
Jennifer should come back on. She's just she's a little
bit camera shine set them. We'll get her back on podcasting.
We just have two small kids. We moved to Big Island,
Hawaii from Honolulu when the lockdowns happened to get away

(01:20:04):
from all that crap. Then there was rumors of FEMA
camps being built, and the Big Island, Hawaii, the Volcano
Island is just a big giant circle, like it's so
easy to control that by the government. A lot of
military up there. So then we moved here and as
you can see, western North Carolina seems like a place
where some not so good people want to come grab

(01:20:26):
the land. And by the way, we were in Leahina
a few years before that all happened too. My uncle
and aunt lived there. We went to Maui, you know,
you know about Leahina. So it's it's kind of this paradox.
It's like you're getting you're going and relocating, like, oh,
I found this sweet spot, or oh go to Taiwan.
Taiwan's great talk to justin find out what it's like.

(01:20:50):
You know, when they had the mask mandates there. I
was in Taiwan for ten years. We were like, oh yeah, baby,
freedom man, you can live. We can ride out the
end time. There is nowhere to go, nowhere to hide
except the will of God. And you don't have to
be running. We're chasing the nephelin. I've had dreams I

(01:21:11):
chase giants down because the anointing makes you want to
go after those guys. You want to It's like the
word our heat seeking missiles that go after the lines
in your head. The more of the word you observe
absorb the more. Even when you're busy doing other things,
the word will continue to find areas, regions in your mind,
your soul man, and it'll just destroy them. And the

(01:21:34):
same thing with the anointing. David got anointed by Samuel,
and then the next chapter he is just like mister Determinator.
He's like John Conna. He's like, I Am coming for you,
Sarah Conna. Like in the first one. You know the
word like the word anointing on David. And that's what

(01:21:56):
I see in the End Times is if you're an
end Time soldier, there is no fear. There's only performing
the will of God. It's not even I who speak,
but my Father speaks within me. We're supposed to be
raising the dead and creating bubbled protections over our neighborhoods
against giant disasters, nukes. I mean, forget a nuke. We

(01:22:22):
just had two trillion gallons of water dumped down here
Asheville looks like it just got destroyed by Godzilla. I
had a dream of an angel the size of Godzilla
just two days before the hurricane came. But the angel
was my friend and like really liked me and really
wanted to come in and became like a normal sized angel.
It was like twelve feet tall, so very manageable. After

(01:22:44):
I'd been feeding this angel and it was literally like
Godzilla breathing fire god and it was like, who cares,
I'm not gonna be too. I was kind of like
respectfully keeping my distance. Dreams like this all the time.
I remember them because I write them down. But that

(01:23:04):
Hurricane Helene, Yes, it was terrible. Yes, the enemy's trying
to use it. All you hear on the internet is
chatter about all FEMA's doing this and all the enemies
doing that. In black roths do this, and yeah, because
a lot of people aren't praying and they don't have
good doctrine and they don't discipline their minds and their
hearts and their mouths. Some churches are taking the money,
the relief money to do renovations and they're kicking off

(01:23:28):
volunteers off their property. There's some really bad churches here.
There's another church I know of. It's guarding a guy
that's under investigation for child grooming and somehow they kicked
out the wife and are anyway, we're helping that situation.
There's so many testimonies. Jody Halstad is doing some amazing stuff.

(01:23:49):
I play his talks Downtown Talks every couple day, every
couple times a week. But yeah, I mean it's the
word of God versus the word of fear. And I
appreciate this download this knowledge. I mean, this is about
as much as I've taken. I haven't even been listening
to Alex Jones this last year. I've been pretty much
cold Turkey. I listened a lot to the Quantum Christianity podcast,

(01:24:12):
which is a lot of the faith teachings and commentaries,
and I'm in a lot of prayer calls that are
off record. You can't just talk online all the time.
You have to have that personal prayer life, which I'd
love to know more about how you guys go about that.
So that was my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
Well, I built, I built an alter to God. I
have my alter, and I have my I have my
prayers there, and I have one of my Bibles there,
and I have and so I'll sit down next to
it and wow and do do I Now, admittedly I

(01:24:56):
haven't been praying as much as I should be, like like,
especially especially compared to a year ago. Uh and uh,
I've been under major spiritual warfare, and you know, I'm
just waking up out of it. And because I would,
I would, I mean, I did the anatomy of a prayer.

(01:25:17):
I've been doing all this, all of this deliverance and
and studying prayer, and then I I do a little
bit of it. But I don't think I've been doing
nearly enough. So I've been getting right back into I've
been praying for for more strength, more wisdom and discernment

(01:25:37):
and uh uh and so that's that's the thing that
I'm concentrating on now. I have a and I started,
not i'd started. I came to a Bible study with
a buddy of mine in my group, and then we're
reading on we're reading on Deuteronomy right now, and uh
and hopefully we'll you know, i'd like to do a

(01:26:00):
little bit more of that. We don't have a I
don't have a lot of Canadian people, so I'd like
to get more and i'd like to start a Bible
study with some Canadians. You guys know Jamie Walden right, Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Does Benjamin Brooke Remnant call?

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Well, sure, if that's what he does. I think he
has well, he has his Omega dynamics and he has
his prayer thing he's building. He's building an arc in Colorado, right.
And he had just said and in one of his

(01:26:44):
in one of his on this channel, Jamie Walden channel,
that people are contacting him as if he's the center
for organizing the entire world. And he's like, no, guys,
I have this right here in Colorado. And he's like, Canadians,
you need to get together, you know, Americans, Australians, right.
And he's like, I'm getting all these people contacting me.

(01:27:05):
And I'm like, he's right. So I contacted Jamie Well,
I sent him a message. I don't think he's right
it yet. I was about a week ago, just saying
send them to me. So we can do these prayer groups,
and we can do these Bible studies. And one of
the do you want to hear this thing that I
discovered in a Bible study? Okay, we lost Mike Michael
didn't want to hear it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
I'm sure he did. He just probably lost. He's in
the North Carolina Hills, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
There, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
So so when in in the in the prayer, in
the prayer, group. I you know, I just I just
I personally discovered something for me. I'm not saying that
I'm the one I discovered this. This is all, you know,
like it came, this came to me and and it
was the but all payure right, that's where that's where

(01:27:55):
Blam was. Couldn't curse against the Israelites before where they
came into, before they came into the Promised Land, so
he couldn't curse. So he said, we'll send send the
temple horse to. I can't curse them. God has not
allowed me. So send the temple horse to to curse,

(01:28:15):
to curse them and curse them that way that will
be successful. And one of the temple hors and a
Israelite a Hebrew started or in the middle of a
sexual acts and and and a I can't remember the israelipid.
He came in and and took them out while they

(01:28:38):
were in the middle of that killed them. And then
the plague disappeared. The plague ended, right, remember that, And
like one hundred thousand people died in that plague. We're
we're about to hit plagues right in the end times
that we have a series of plagues. So when it
comes to these series of plagues, or just like it

(01:28:59):
came to that plague back there, which is an which
is a fine example what was going on intense sin.
It wasn't God that was saying I am going to
do this to you. He's saying, I want you to
follow these these rules, these laws, because you then will
will be open to demonic attack. Those plagues were coming

(01:29:21):
through the demonic realm affecting those people because of the
great sin that was that they were allowing it. The
whole goal of the demonic entities were to stop them
from getting into the Promised Land. So they were just
going after through plague, through this great sin that was
being committed. And so when we go through all these

(01:29:44):
plagues in the in the end times, what do we
need to do. We need to pray, we need to repent,
and we need to praise. That's what we need to
teach people to do, because that's because in the back
then if they started repenting for for for committing these
great sexual sins and fornicating with the Canaanite women, Uh,

(01:30:10):
then they wouldn't have died. They would have healed themselves
and they would have closed the portals where the where
the demonic can penetrate, right, because they could not penetrate Jesus,
we cannot penetrate him. Same thing. So you close those
those portals, you close those those entryways where they're accessing you,
and what goes away the plague that those plagues, the

(01:30:34):
plagues that are coming, aren't going to be aren't going
to be through all this stuff that we're panicking about
in the needles and the and the the stuff like
I'm talking about the the snake poison that they put
in the water, right that that was real. But these
plagues that are coming. Biblically speaking, we are so filled

(01:30:55):
with so much sin and we don't have any we're
not repenting. You know, most people don't even believe in
God anymore, and so they're going to be affected by
these plagues. And so if you have that prayer you
have you understand that those that those plagus will go
with because it is coming through the demonic. It's not
God plaguing us. It is the demonics, demoniacs plaguing us.

(01:31:21):
If that makes sense. There's a big light bulb that
that came on because everyone always says, you know, God,
God allows it because of the laws that he created right,
so God has the final say. He takes. He takes
the biblically I did this, So he takes responsibility absolutely.

(01:31:41):
But it's all it's all in, It's all just responsibility
because of our actions as as stewards of the land.

Speaker 5 (01:31:53):
Do you think that this crisis is very good? Do
you think that these christ Is we say that? Do
you think that these crisises can be averted by people
turning to God with praying and fasting and seeking his
veg just like in the Old Testament, which I know
there are some people will say, well, those old Toastament,
But I do believe that that when people turn their

(01:32:16):
hearts to God, that the Lord can delay these judgments
and hold back these things that the powers that be
want to unfold upon the America and the world. What
do you think, guys?

Speaker 6 (01:32:34):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:32:38):
You know there in terms of like all the bad
things that could happen, Like there's bad things that can
happen to us like every every day. I think it's
speaking about prayer, like we we have to be in
kind of a mindset of constant prayer. But prayer isn't enough.
We have to also have faith that goes with it,
you know. So you know, some people have like incredibly

(01:32:58):
disciplined prayeralyzed if you don't have the faith to go
with it, the faith like a child, you know, don't
expect it to be to be answered if you don't
have the faith behind it. But you know, I think,
yeah that I don't know really what else I had
to say about that, but I do think that it
is possible through a prayer for us to avoid that.

(01:33:21):
But there's also I think we can't be naive about
what's happening. We have to be aware of what's going
on around us. It just takes a little yeast to uh,
you know, spoil the whole like situation, and we have
a lot of yeast in the mix, and we've got
a lot of darkness. It seems to be that's what's

(01:33:41):
taking over satellite. But yeah, we could totally reverse it.
But I think for our own lives where we are,
we have to be fearless. We have to learn to
be prayer warriors where we are. You know, it might
be you know that it just might not be the
will of the Creator that that we come out of it.
There might have to be a judgment and then do

(01:34:02):
that judgment and suffering. Maybe that's the cleansing that's needed.
So yeah, go for Michael.

Speaker 5 (01:34:11):
Okay, thank you for your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
You know, I think at this point it's only repentance, repentance,
praise where we are there. There's so much corruption and
so much evil that is that is going on that
we need to start focusing on on repentance, praise, worship,

(01:34:34):
and uh and go from that angle. If you want
to pray over the land itself, you pray for the
people to repent it within that land. I think that's
that's basically the route to go now instead of trying
to intercede over the land, I think the intercession will
be utterly ignored at this point. There was there's an

(01:34:56):
example that that. I mean, I saw it all over
Facebook of people we pray over this land during the
election difficult word right during during the election, there were
a whole bunch of people we pray over over There
was all prayer to save the United States by having

(01:35:17):
Trump in. But there was no talk of repentance. There
was no talk of worship and love to God. There
was none of that. Not I didn't see any of
that within within the all the other people connected to
my social media talking about repentance, praise and worship of God,

(01:35:41):
and I repent, Please save my land. I repent. I
am sorry. I am sorry. I participated in this. I
am sorry. I am truly so sorry. Father that you
know I've that I've just thought of myself and just
thought of my family. I put them above you, because

(01:36:03):
that's what's going on right now, That's what's going on
throughout oh across you see this Christian Uh, this Christian
UH community that we have here, I find I find
people have lost their way so much. I understand the
falling away. I understand it. So while I see so
many people posting in there that call themselves Christians that

(01:36:25):
are I don't. I can't see them getting out. I
think they'll either be taken out or they'll fall away.
It's one or the other with a lot of these,
a lot of these guys, because they don't understand prayer
properly for one.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
Right, that is truly sad when people are praying for
Trump to be elected and now that he is elected
as president, but there's no personal change in their life
in terms of having closer walk with God and repenting
and getting into the word more and you know, things

(01:37:00):
of that nature. That's so that's really sad that Okay,
we've got our man in there and we're just going
to continue just forticateen and do all this other crazy stuff.
You know, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
It's really bad.

Speaker 6 (01:37:11):
Yeah right, I mean, I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Just saying as an example, right, yeah, lack of repentance,
that they'll just continue their life because they're relieved, you
knowing the sweat off their brow, that you know that
they can continue living the way that they are, you know,
and self included that we all need to be laser
focused on on the Lord. And you know, come what
may I mean I kind of think that we're sort

(01:37:33):
of like the Hebrew boys that you know, we we
should say, you know, look, we're not going to bow
down to your golden idol. And God is more than
sufficient to deliver us from the fiery furnace. But even
if he does not, we will still not bow down
to your golden idol, whatever that idol would be. You know,
just insert any type of ideology or whatever, like you said,

(01:37:55):
you know, you can just name you know, whatever it is,
you know, uh, pedophilia or people people switching genders and
you know, locking up their parents because the parents are
opposed to uh these gender quote unquote affirming uh surgeries
or whatever, you know, And really it's really having to

(01:38:16):
do with a semantics. So quote they say quote unquote
gender affirming surgeries, you know, so they're they're trying to
say that a person, if they're born a boy and
they really want to be a girl or vice versa,
that it's affirming their gender or whatever. But but really
it's it's mutilating their gender, you know, that the way
the Lord had had created them to be. You know,

(01:38:39):
so it's what you know, it's so funny because when
we were talking about in many circles that uh, you know,
many years ago, you know, if you asked, you know,
a child if they were sexually confused or whatever, if
they weren't sure if they were a boy or girl
or whatever. You know, it was in the small percentages.
And now or you know, because of the school the schools,

(01:39:01):
you know, having these drag queens, you know, teach these
kids at a very young age, you know, and and
you know, sex taught to your little kindergarteners and first
graders and second gadors or whatever, you know, and so
now that that one percent or two percent that's sexually
confused is skyrocketed to around like twenty percent or thirty
percent of you know, these these middle schoolers. You know,

(01:39:22):
it's because if you say, you know, hey, look, if
you're a boy and you have your kind of a
gentle kind guy or a gentle and kind of boy
or whatever, then you must be a girl. Or if
you say to a girl, you know, hey, you know,
because you like baseball and you like to catch your
hair short or whatever, you must be a boy. You know,
you should change your genders. And and you know, have
your parents locked up and stuff like that because they

(01:39:43):
don't understand you and whatever. I don't know. I mean,
that's just an example of some of this the craziness
that has come down the place.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
And that's coming that's coming down hard, where what you
just said is going to be illegal, like I would say,
six to eight months from now, what you just said
is going to be illegal. And and if you get
in the way of your child having those kind of surgeries,
you're going to find yourself in jail or in a
re education camp or all that sort of stuff. When

(01:40:11):
that's when Obama takes over, not right away. It'll be.
It'll be once everything is set up, once the camp,
the FEMA camps and all that sort of stuff are
all set up, the for all the disasters that the
United States is going through. Yeah, it's it's it's going
to be a very and all these people who can't
hold back on Facebook, right it's it's now a test.

(01:40:31):
It is where you pray in private against everybody, and
you don't smash your feelings on social media or we
won't be able to have these talks anymore. We'll have
to talk in code or something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:45):
Code FYI. I'm really pleasantly thankful that you are still
on YouTube the rundown of reality, you know, because Michael
I used to I used to think, oh, Michael got
to take it down because he's telling too much of
the truth or whatever. Well, Michael, even though I haven't
gotten taken down on YouTube, they say I can't upload
anything anymore because I've gotten too many quote unquote strikes.

(01:41:06):
And honestly, what they did dredged up was a video
that I had uploaded of Michael and I talking to
a Canadian holistic vendor, emmyl Life I forget his name.
Great guy, anyway, so he was talking about how colonial
silver helped heal this one woman who was on her deathbed,

(01:41:28):
that she had all these diseases and everything in a
coloidal silver within a few months, just she completely snapped
out of all these different infections she had. And so
it was weird because it said that at the time,
they let me upload it. But then when I uploaded
the interview with Michael and Pastor Jodie from Western North

(01:41:49):
Carolina where he was decrying the weather technology and this
DEI stuff in favor for or were like against rescuing
the Western North Carolina's when we talked about this all
this controversial stuff, that's what it said, you have too
many strikes on your channel because and they dredged up

(01:42:11):
the colonal silver guy six to eight months ago, and
so now I can't upload. I even tried to do
like an old, non controversial little video of a cute
coyote that I saw out in the wilderness around here,
and it said, you have too many strikes. So even
though they haven't taken down my channel, I cannot even upload,
not even like you know, a little video of Teletubbies

(01:42:34):
or Barney or whatever. I can't at all, so you're
very I'm surprised considering all the truth that you tell
on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
Well, I take out a lot of medical stuff that
goes up on You're already transhuman isn't on YouTube. I
just do a little blurb, you know, you can see
it here and the whole chessboard video. I took all
the medical stuff for specifically for YouTube. Yeah, if it's
a medical, if it's medical, I don't put it up
on YouTube because they'll I have I've had two strikes,

(01:43:04):
I think or three strikes, but all all they're spaced
out enough, so uh and then yeah, it's it's when
I talk about, yeah, it's anything medical, then they'll they'll
give me the strike. So I just say, hey, yo,
word check it out on this other place. And then
that's exactly like that word.

Speaker 5 (01:43:26):
So the Canadian Christian rapper you.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
Yeah, so so j Rock Yeah yeah j Rock ye anyway,
so so yeah, that's that's one of the reasons why
I'm a both. But it's not going to be there
for much longer. They wouldn't let me promote my You're

(01:43:49):
already or no, you're already a skinwalker? Your Anatomy of
a skin Walker video they wouldn't let me promote that
because it was hate speech or it was it was
going again, it's other people's customs. Yeah, they're eating babies,
of course, of course it's horrible. Yeah, they're they're you're
talking about the Canaanites, uh, back back in the day

(01:44:11):
and using using the the the human sacrifice and then
the child sacrifices to gain spiritual power.

Speaker 5 (01:44:22):
So the Canaanites were doing that. So you were talking
about these ancient peoples who were nephilammer or giants, and
they still didn't like it. You weren't saying that that
there's people, I mean, there are people nowadays they're eating children.
But you were spysically talking about the Knaites. There are
a culture, cultures.

Speaker 4 (01:44:44):
It's their culture. How dare you? How dare you?

Speaker 5 (01:44:49):
How dare you?

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
Yes that I'm on right now.

Speaker 6 (01:44:53):
And how dare you?

Speaker 4 (01:44:55):
I say, from up here on this high road, it
is a culture that should be that kills children and
we should respect it, and.

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
Right right, yeah, absolutely right. Well guys, it was a
pleasure talking to you guys about all of these topics,
and you guys are definitely dropping truth bombs and uh
listeners and watchers out there. You may or may not
agree with what you KNOWK Justin or even I have said,

(01:45:26):
but that's okay. We can agree to disagree. We still
love you, guys and gals in Christ. I hope you
will continue to listen to us. Even though I'm not
on YouTube anymore. This you'll probably be watching this on
Rumble or one of these other platforms. Tell it, I
can upload a bit, shoot, Odyssey, Instagram, baby, something that's
not in bed with the New World Order. So or

(01:45:47):
maybe also.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Fringe you guys, if we're going to be doing uh
collaborations and we're talking about censorship, Fringe Radio netwo my
mutic Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
Can hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
So let me show you this week of network.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
Oh we went and said you're good and then.

Speaker 5 (01:46:08):
Are able to we ruined it blotting out there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
Oh I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Oh it's because I was touching my phone. Ah, I'm
deep in the mountains. I'm deep in the mountains. So
don't forget Fringe Radio Network app download Fringe Radio Network
dot com. That's that is going to become a hub
of social It already is of uncensored content so that
people can continue to talk like this and not have
to be like the hokey pokey the Jabbi wabby up

(01:46:43):
and Rumble is great, but it's like our own programmed
app that is designed or free speech and chat room
and get phone notifications when we go live. And so
I hope, Enoch, I hope we can talk about getting
you and justin any kind of podcast stuff you're doing
and just kind of the roundtables like this with cross files.
It's really really exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:47:04):
Yeah, well, I'd be happy to you know, come on
anytime you guys want and the van Watu stuff that
we're talking with you want a lot more information. There's
a video on my all my channels except for but
for some reason it it won't upload on Bitch you
and I've even shrunk the file in half and it's
still isn't uploading. So but it's on Rumble, Odyssey and

(01:47:28):
YouTube the uh the vn watoo. So so if it's
something you want to even just hear about, share with
your friends, uh and uh, you know, get send it
out there, get it out there. So that give people
some options. A lot of podcasters have censored me because

(01:47:49):
I'm talking about leaving the United States, like they've they've
literally said I'm not sharing, like I don't feel right
in my spirit by by giving somebody an opt to
leave the United States, I couldn't believe that I was in.
That's by by quite a popular podcaster in UH when
I was saying, Hey, I'm I'm doing this right now.

(01:48:11):
Just thought, and I think it's because that again that
American pride. I use the word flee, flee, so I've
now changed it when I talk to Americans say, it's
a tactical. It's a tactical retreat to regroup and reassess
the situation so that you can then you know, plan
your plan your next assault on the enemy. Right, like

(01:48:31):
just some sort of bravado nonsense that apparently these guys
need in order to uh to get something, to get
to get something past their their own mind control that
they're in. But uh, but yeah, like I just I
couldn't believe that they would keep that away from other
people who may be looking for options of of leaving.

Speaker 5 (01:48:52):
I just wow, interesting, And if you're well, you know,
I have a sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:48:59):
Just I was just gonna say, if you're on telegram,
you can also send a message there if you're interested
in just talking to me about that. That's t dot
me slash then want to info T me slash v
A n U A t u I n f O.

(01:49:19):
So then wants to info and then Yeah, that video
that Enoch mentioned is really good. It covers a lot
of the reasons that Van wants to came to the
top of the list for us. But yeah, sorry, interrupt.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Links around the video too. That on my channel.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
Okay, So T dot me for slash B A n
U A t U info Okay, great, great. Oh, just
this one last thing I was going to say. I
have a friend that's completely an American throughout, through and throughout,
and he actually agrees with you, Enoch, one hundred percent
that that at some point when the Lord gives them
the green light, he wants to move out of the

(01:49:57):
country because he sees America as a best to do.
I see America's Babylon. You know, honestly, I'm not sure
the jury is out of my mind because part of
me says yes, part of me says, well, I need
to do more of a study in it, so I'll
have to study that more. But I think that I
know there's a literal I do think the Bible literally.

(01:50:18):
But there's some people that always say, what's the word preterist,
where they believe, like all the stuff that's in the
Bible is just just just for that period of time,
you know, and they don't see that it can have
multiple adaptations or multiple applications throughout history. Uh, there's I
believe that there's different little little there's different types of Antichrists,

(01:50:39):
but then there's going to be the main anti Christ who.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Will be right. We the Yeah we haven't hit yet,
we don't we haven't hit the plagues. We haven't hit
we haven't hit any of that stuff. Yeah, it's there's
there's something really interesting that that I discovered in with
my with my friend who is a on my channel
there who is Orthodox Christian. And it is a whole

(01:51:02):
explanation that on this that I think solves this whole
preadorist futurist debate because I think it's I think a
division has been created by the Masons so that we
continuously argue about that nonsense. And uh. And the because
the this Orthodox, he says, the Orthodox hold are the

(01:51:23):
closest to hold to traditional teachings through the through Jesus
and the disciples, not not Catholic, the Orthodox Church, like
like an Eastern Orthodox or or But anyway, we haven't
gotten into it yet, and I really want to learn
what he's talking about. I can't quite explain it yet,

(01:51:45):
but if you talk to some Orthodox uh people, they
might be able to explain that for you and really
solve that whole predorist futurist argument that seems to be
seems to be happening.

Speaker 5 (01:51:57):
Yeah, that's well. In the show is all the only
have a link to your websites, Enoch and your website justin,
and that way they can click on your guys' websites.
Are y'all websites so that they can get more information
uh from your guys, and those will follow your channels
and what have you. Michael, did you have I think

(01:52:19):
you're hurting to say something. I think you want to
say something.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
No, well, just my personal site is faithbooks dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:52:27):
Yes, faith books dot.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Com for books dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
I'm going to do another Bible chapter tonight, So Nas,
we're not are.

Speaker 4 (01:52:34):
You well chapter? Are you looking at.

Speaker 7 (01:52:40):
Jamiel? We're shaking, Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
I'm going through a series of David versus Saul versus
Absalom because of what we're seeing with the government and
the transfer of power and all the chaos, and it's
just like, what does the Bible say because it really parallels.
So yeah, that's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
I did Ezekiel last night in my script Didn't, which
also does have nice parallels.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
I've just finished that down gone ball the whole Book
of Ezekiel just a few days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:53:13):
The entire bank is ridiculously awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
Yeah, the temple dimensions and then the water of life
coming in all directions and that's the answer. I mean,
it's right there, the dimensions of Israel. It's huge.

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
Lad is John normous as they all in there? I
have been raised John Normous, tor.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Nurkill.

Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
Now we're just going to be anger and partly a
whole group of people with these horrible accents apologize.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
We've got a Canadian and thy Californian and a Floridian
and uh now we're gotcha. We're justice all trying to
come up with these buddies their Nexen's that we Florida, Florida.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
What is Justin and an Enoch doing?

Speaker 1 (01:54:09):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
What are you guys? What is the project like? Before
you go like.

Speaker 4 (01:54:17):
The whole van Watu. Uh giving people a place to
go outside because you you can actually purchase a I
guess yeah, we probably maybe lit it because it is
the cheapest place where you can purchase a passport. Because
you do not want the United States passport, so you
can get you can get a passport from van Watu
at a very reasonable cock reasonable press. It's not a

(01:54:39):
it's not exactly the Cadillacs of passports, but it is uh,
you know, it's it's a nice Pinto and it'll get you,
it'll get you out of the United States. And and
it's not you know, you don't have to spend millions
of dollars trying to get a passport, and you could
do it relatively quickly.

Speaker 6 (01:54:56):
So okay, you can also invest one hundred thousand dollars
in land or real estate over there, and they'll give
you a ten year visa, which is pretty nice too
if you don't need to you don't want to passport,
if you want to just get over there to the land.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
And yeah, excellent him, Well.

Speaker 4 (01:55:15):
All that all that's yeah, all that's in the video
to that that we're talking that we were talking about.
So but yeah, I guess that's kind of important. We
got off a whole bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Well you mentioned it. I just wanted to make sure
that it was clear because I just was. I mean,
both of you have so much. You're both just universes
of understanding and research and as well. It's just going
to grow. I mean, this is community. It's great that
we can have unity too. This is really really good.
But he has to do what I say and exactly

(01:55:47):
believe what I believe. That's that's unity. Well, we all
agree on what the word says, and that's where we
can I believe we're going to just expand into like
mega ultra mode.

Speaker 4 (01:56:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
These bigger ministries they're interested in what we're doing, not joking.
They're like, sure they have the big churches or the
big thing figured out, but they're like actually interested in, Well,
what's this fringe Christian thing, Michael Heiser, what's the satanic
underground ritual abuse thing? Oh, how do we deal with
And it's that is that connection. Because we've been doing

(01:56:21):
the work there solo. Now the big boys they're going
to be coming to us too and kind of wanting
to help boost us up and then learn from us
and work with.

Speaker 4 (01:56:29):
Us you got to watch with that too. For example,
like if you know who Charlie Kirk is, he's he's
absolutely part of the Masonic Order. His dad helped build
the Trump Tower. And he's going around trying to build
up people in podcasts. But he's doing it through an
affiliate with another kid and or ardy kid young he

(01:56:52):
looks like a young adult. I think it was Asian,
but so he could have been like forty. I don't know,
but but but they are doing this, so you and
what I've done in what I'm doing in this video
is how to spot these people, like see who they
hang out with. And there's a whole bunch of there's
a whole bunch of processes that and definitions and tactics

(01:57:13):
that freemason these freemasons use. So if you apply these
tactics to them, like synergy, right, you know, synergy is
where you share, you share your your friends and stuff
so that all grow together. Right, And they use synergy
to help legitimize each other to so that people will

(01:57:37):
you know, I well, if they if these guys are
doing it. This guy has you know, two hundred and
fifty thousand followers. This guy has a million followers, and
so they create this synergistic format and then they bring
in people because numbers validate people in their minds. And yeah,

(01:57:59):
I call it the synergy stick tactic. Uh, there's a
whole bunch of other ones that I'm but I'm exposing
them all. And then I use I use those methods
by I use those methods in real time to show
you how I spot these masons, how I can do
it so quick because it's it's so it's so obvious

(01:58:22):
to me. Now I just need I need two minutes.
I'm like, yeah, no, I wouldn't listen to that guy,
because it's all they follow patterns, they follow they have
specific things that they do and it's and it's it's
so easy to spot now that But anyway, that's coming
up in my next video. Sorry, you're trying to close
out and here I am just yapping my gums away
and I'm very gay.

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
We want you to flap your gums in Jesus name Amen. Brothers.
All right, brothers, sisters. We're the fake Southern podcast right here.
So I'm sure that I had a horrible Southern accent. Anyway,
So thank you so much for listening and or watching
the Cross Falls pod cast. I'm your hostess with the

(01:59:02):
mostest I'm just kidding, I'm I'm what half your hosts
Jerry from the Crossfiles podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
And I'm with I'm I'm I'm Michael Basham, Michael Basham
here apprently le vote for me.

Speaker 5 (01:59:17):
Michael Marshon for president twenty And then we had a
fun time interviewing Enoch Putris and and Justin. Do you
want to share your last name?

Speaker 6 (01:59:28):
Lewis? Yeah, Lewis, Justin Lewis.

Speaker 5 (01:59:30):
Okay. Thanks so much for listening and watching us, and
we hope you have a bless day. Everybody, have a
strange and spiritful day, and may the crossbie with you y'all. Bye.

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