Gary Wayne's Revelation on Fallen Angels & the Genesis 6 Conspiracy! 👼

Unveiling Ancient Mysteries: Gary Wayne's Revelation on Fallen Angels & the Genesis 6 Conspiracy! 👼

Unveiling Ancient Mysteries: Gary Wayne's Revelation on Fallen Angels & the Genesis 6 Conspiracy! 👼 | Cross Files Podcast 🎙️ Unlock the mysteries of the supernatural on the latest episode of the Strange O'Clock Podcast, now reborn as Cross Files Podcast! Join hosts Michael, Jeri, and Dawn as they embark on an unprecedented journey into the realms of ancient secrets and biblical prophecies with none other than the enigmatic and amazing Gary Wayne, author of The Genesis 6 Conspiracy I and II. 📚

Gary Wayne takes us on a riveting exploration of his groundbreaking new book, delving deep into the shadows cast by fallen angels as described in Genesis 6. Uncover the startling revelations about their role in orchestrating the biblical end times, as Gary Wayne decodes the cryptic messages hidden within ancient texts.

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Episode Transcript

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Yeah, there's spurious creations akin tothe nepheline, and the nephylem would be
higher up on the visible ones asopposed to the invisible ones. Right,
the invisible ones is in the FallenAngels, and I guess you might include
the disembodied spirits, but they're essentiallythe giants, so they're lower than the

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hierarchical order of the Fallen Angels,and they're higher than the elementals, which
the fairies would fall into. Andin book one, I talk about three
groups of elementals, good looking oneslike tinker bells portrayed as or a fairy
queen sort of imagery, right,and mischievous ones like leprechauns. And within

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those groups they have many different kindsof those sort of central themes. And
it's the same on all continents aroundthe world, and it's a common legacy
that goes back into prehistory. Timeis taking away. Welcome to the Strange
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is Michael Basham and I'm Jerry andwe're pleased to have tonight with also joined
with Don Elliott, who we've interviewedrecently, Truth Be Told, and we
thank you for everyone joining us.Gary Wayne, author of Genesis six Conspiracy,
Part one and two, very excitedto have him on. He really
requires no introduction, but if youactually read the Genesis six Conspiracy, it's

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like an anthology. It's like areally just a total encyclopedia of how secret
societies, assigndants of giants, thePlan doing mankind. And you'll find in
Part two, which has recently released, how understanding prehistory and giants help define
end time prophecy. So this isvery pertinent to what we're going through.

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Satan's plant install the Christ at theEnd of Days. It's going to be
really exciting to talk to our favoriteChristian contrarian. Thank you so much,
Gary for joining us, and we'regoing to really learn a lot today.
We've interviewed you. I've interviewed youon my show years ago when I was
in Hawaii, and I'm very excitedMichael Basham with the Spirit Force and French
Radio Network. Gary, how areyou doing. It's wonderful to see you.

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Yeah, doing very well, andit's so excited to be here with
you guys today and to talk aboutwhatever, whatever the audience would like to
talk about. And yeah, andpretty excited about my new book. It's
at the printers right now as wespeak, being printed, so it's gotten
through the cue for the printers,it's through the queue at the printers,

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and now it's actually printing. Sowhat I'm told late last week from the
publishers, so I'm expecting to seeit meet the March twelfth release date.
And there's been a lot more hoopsthis time than I thought to get published
because things have changed on the publishingend with COVID, So there's a lack
of labor, there's a lack ofpaper, and there's a lack of printers,

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so it's a long lineup to getpublished these days. Wow, that's
exciting. Gary. I remember thatwhen I interviewed you under Tigle for God
Radio in twenty fifteen, when myhusband and I were still in Carson City,
Nevada, and it was snowing outsideand I was talking to you.

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You were like my maybe six orseventh guest at that time, and here
we are fast forward to twenty twentyfour. I just can't believe it.
And I think the Lord thanked Jesusthat he's allowed us all to come together
in this podcast. And I'm soglad. Also that Don Elliott is on
board too, and she's a newpodcaster. And go ahead, Don to
introduce yourself a little bit. I'mDon. I hope to start a podcast

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very soon. I'll wait. Come. Working title is transformed by the light
that my YouTube name is true tobe told if you've seen me awesome tat
rooms on YouTube. So amazing.Well, Gary, thank you so much
again. We're honored to have youon board the Strange o'clock podcast. So
Gary, please tell us what inspiredyou to write the GENA six sixth Conspiracy

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Part two. Yeah, it's aninteresting sort of path to go from one
to two because I never said Iwould write a sequel to the Genesis sixth
Conspiracy. And I had sort ofother books that I thought I might do
depending on sort of the acceptance ofthe message and things like that. And

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so I was writing another book,and I was struggling with it for three
years, and I put a lotof work into I got three hundred pages
with it. I just not wasn'thappy with it. So I realized I
was maybe pushing something uphill that maybeI wasn't ready for. And with the
communication, whether it's on questions onpodcasts or interaction with the audience or emails

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social media in my group was thatthere was an angst by the Christian community
where they would want. They wanteda book that was more specific to Christians.
Book One is a book that isit has a lot of Christian material
in it, but it's more ona global perspective and tying all of those

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commonalities together to tell the narrative fromprehistory through to antime prophecy. They have
different outlooks on things, but they'retalking about the same kinds of events all
the way through and how it affectedour histories. But what surprised me was
is that Christians wanted to know moreabout what was in the Bible, because
there's not enough that goes into detailin the Bible. And so I thought,

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well, okay, I mean Iheard that message, but I didn't
want to be redundant, but thatsort of hunger, that thirst to have
somebody try and take on the Biblein a way that some people would shy
away from because it's a large book. There's a lot of information and it's

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hard to put it together. SoI had to learn how to do the
format on how to do that.So I've changed. I changed the format
so now I'm doing obviously I'm doinga lot more scripture within the writing,
but I've put the annotations into footnotesinstead of endnotes because there's so much information
in the footnote and it's right therefor the reader at the time they want

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to check the passage or the sourceor the definition of the word, the
etymology, whatever I'm referencing, it'sthere because it's just packed with information.
Just like the first books. Ideveloped that formatting and that sort of helped
me, and then I understood howto do a mix of writing and mixing
in scripture to make it go.And so I decided, you know what,

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I'm to have no success on thisfirst book in terms of getting it
on side with my mental position onwhat I wanted it to do. I'll
do this book, and there's materialI didn't put in the first book,
so you can start with that.But I wanted to give something special to
Christians, and I wanted them totake them deeper into the Bible than anybody's

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ever gone before. I want themto get behind the language of the modern
translations and get into the detail ofthe Greek words and the Hebrew words.
And I wanted to explore the Angelichierarchy, which is the backdrop to everything.
And I wanted people to understand thatwhy we're here is that we are

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as Adamites, as the sentence ofthe Atamites. We are the resolution to
the Angelic rebellion. It's our resmeatra, so it's our reason of being.
So we need to understand that andput the whole Bible in context of what
happened in prehistory as to what rolledforward and why there's an end time.
And if you don't understand prehistory,you don't understand history, and you don't

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understand the end time. And tounderline terms in that prehistory that would define
end time prophecy. So not onlydid I want to connect more information from
the Bible, but I also wantedto connect it to end time prophecy.
So I do that in the latterhalf of the book, and I lay
down my approaching prophecy. Seems tobe some fascination in terms of how I
do it, so I explain itin the preface, and then I demonstrate

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it in the last couple of sectionsof the book, and within the context.
I wanted to talk about the wholehierarchy of the angelic order, the
rank and the orders and the names, and then I wanted to carry that
over to explain the fallen napheline side. Naphalim is the root for nepheline,
which being fall or fallen ones withthe immil plural, just as when Satan

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falls from heaven and Isaiah fourteen that'sthe Hebrew word and the foul. So
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source word for neffling, but it'sonly partially the meeting because it's a standalone
word in a itself. It justevolves out of an a foul or nepal
as it would go back to originalSemitic if some people are really into the

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history of it. So I understandthat I'm my sources has it pronounced with
an F. I understand the originalSemitic was a peace sound, so I'm
not naive to that. And sonot only did I want to cover that,
I wanted to cover off how weknow how angels can create giant With
all the feedback that I've gotten interms of explain how spiritual beings can create

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physical beings. I walk through thatwhole process scripturally. I wanted to explain
how many kinds of giants there werein the Bible, how many different names
of the tribes. We understand nepheline, we understand refaeme to a certain extent,
and I wanted to denote the differenceand the tribes that weren't called giant,

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how do we establish them as giants? And then there's this confusion between
giants and hybrid giants that I foundthe Christian community had, So I wanted
to explain how the hybrids come out. Those are the seven to nine foot
giants that are smaller than the largergiants, how and why that came about.
And then I wanted to roll thatforward and explain all the giant wars

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in the Bible, right from Genesisfourteen at the start of the covenant being
given with Abraham, right through tothe Exodus and all the wars there,
and then the wars of the Judges, and then the wars of King David
and the wars of King Solomon.I cover all of those campaigns in this
book and explain how we know they'regiants, just as I will take those

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patriarchalist names of hybrids back to apatriarch for a hybrid nation to a rafaem
patriarch, and I will even tracethe refaee patriarchs back to a likely patriarchal
name as the first of that giantthat set up that tribe. And then
I roll that After explaining all that, I roll out how all of that

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information is important to understand prophecy andlay down a chronology based out of that.
I know that's not the Elevator version, but those are the goals that
I had for So the difference isit's a Christian perspective, not a global
perspective, and it goes deep intothe Bible and gives you the things you
need to do to understand prehistory andprophecy. So the subtitle to Genesis sixth

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Conspiracy, Part two is how understandingprehistory and giants helps to define end time
prophecy. Good, very good.This is very good. Makes me think
about know thy enemies. So Iguess today people are going through a lot
facing this darkening world, getting closerto the end. Obviously, if we're

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not already in the midst of it, do you think that these giants.
Are we engaging with them in aspiritual way today? Are we engaging with
these spirits of the Nephelin in anyway, shape or form. Would this
help us with our spiritual warfare inour prayer life? To read Genesis six
Conspiracy Part two. Oh, Ithink so. I think so, And

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it's going to give you the informationthat you're not getting in the churches.
The churches do a great job today, but they don't teach prehistory and they
don't teach prophecy, and if theydo mention it, it's done in a
way that isn't connected to what they'reteaching. And it's all interconnected. Yes,
or disembodied spirits, you need toknow where they come from. Are
they human? Are they not?And I explain the difference there, and

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I explain that they actually come fromthe counterfeit spirits that were reproduced like a
xerox copy of the fallen angels intotheir spiritus offspring, and that those spirits
don't sleep. And there's different groupsof those spirits, as I'll talk about

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in the new book. And there'sa real interesting group that I get into.
It's called the terrible ones really thatare talked about in Ezekiel thirty two
or Isaiah fourteen and other passages.And that word terrible one has a really
interesting name as it connects back toKing aug but specifically, these ones are
described in Ezekiel thirty two as theones who were kings. So you have

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these mighty being speaking from the pitprison to Pharaoh in that prophecy. That's
the word Hebrew word l that's theangels, and then you have the terrible
ones, and that's the Hebrew wordto eat, and a routine for terrible
ones as in the male plural.And they're there because they did terrible things
while they were on earth, asthese kings, and they're named, and

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they're in the sides of the pitprison, and they're speaking to Pharaoh,
who is a terrible one as well. And these are disembodied spirits that are
in the pit prison as opposed tothe ones that made it to hades or
shale, and have an ability atcertain times of the year paticularly on the
occult Sabbaths and whatever other rituals theydo, to come through portals and into

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the physical world, and distinct fromthe ones that are wandering the earth as
in dry places and are thirsting tohave a human body to possess that Jesus
ran up against so that they caninteract physically again with the world. They
have very limited capablebid ability its spiritualbeings to interact physically, same reason for

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why allen angels take a physical formto interact physically if they wanted to reproduce.
And so these demonic beings are theones that Jesus is dealing with,
and we walk through this as wellin the in the New Book. Is
that when Jesus is dealing with uncleanspirits and evil spirits, it's intermixed with
the word devils. They're used andthey're used interchangeably when he's dealing with these

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evil spirits that possess, including legion, which is so that word is not
should not he translated as devil inmy opinion, it should be translated as
demon or damon, which is theGreek word and that's the root word for
the English word for demon. Theseare the disembodied spirits of the giants,
devil as it's associated as we getthe translation into and associated with satan as

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in the devil in Revelation twelve orother verses in the New Testament where it
says devil that's the Greek word diablos, and he is. He's the leader
as it's defined, of the angels, of the fallen angels, and the
leader of the demons in the hierarchy. They report to him as is.
There is is messengers, his onesthat do things for him, because he's

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the head of the whole order ashe sits over the council of Gods and
Psalms eighty two. I'm looking forwardto reading it. I'm curious if somebody
just wanted to read the second onefirst. Is that going to be a
problem. Do you have to readthe first one before you read second one?

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No. I wanted to have thebooks that they could be read independently,
but that if you read one,you would want to read the other
one. So there's a little bitof overlap, not much, just what
needs to be there. And Ihave footnotes from book one so that people
will get an idea. There's alot more that is covered in that book

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about what I'm not going to spenda whole bunch of time on there.
I'm just bridging a gap. Soif you're a Christian and you are very
familiar with the Bible. I wouldsuggest that, and that doesn't mean that
you know the etymology or anything likethat, but just that you're very conversant
with the Bible, and I've reada lot. You can start with book
two, and I would encourage mostChristians to do, but if it's too

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much, you may want to goback to Book one. That's a lighter
introduction into the rabbit holes that areendless. Gary. One thing that I
had heard or read was that alot of these tribes in the Old Testament
with thefix of Eites, like Malkiteor the Jebusites or whatever, that those

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are most likely nepheline tribe. Isthat correct? Is that true? Gary?
Yeah, I was really shocked whenI got onto social media, and
that was the whole sort of rage. And because I was on social media
before it published the book, andI didn't associate with the larger community,
and I was shocked to hear that. And it sounds good because you have

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some names that are using the Eitesuffix in the Bible, but it doesn't
stand up to scrutiny. So ifyou look at the Israelites, for example,
are we now saying those are giants? That makes a lot of sense.
Gary, probably not. And thenwith the hor em you also have
them classified as horror, So well, why would they classify it with an

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im and an ites? Is thatsaying there might be a hybrid or they
were confused as well. So Ithink the best suffects they ought to have
used, and I used throughout mybook, and when I'm talking is if
I'm talking about a a giant race, I'm going to use the im plural.

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Now in terms of the hybrids,they're a mix, so I don't
care whether it's its or whatever.The ending is, they're not the pure
giants. And what's interesting about thepure giants, So you might see other
names that are in there with theim like the Oviam for example, right,
they are part of this nomenclature ofthe giant names. And what's interesting

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about the giants is that they don'thave any patriarchs in the table of nations
listed in the Bible. Oh that'svery important. It is. So if
you're trying to figure out where someof these nations come from and you can't
trace a patriarch, that's an indicationthey may be a giant nation. Now

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we have one pretty good examples asto who might be patriarchs listed in the
Bible that are not in the Tableof Nations. And the first one is
Arba, who in the Book ofJoshua is said to be not only the
greatest of the Anachem but their patriarch. And Hebron was named kuriath Arba,

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the city of Arba before it waschanged to Hebron where Sheshai tell my and
Aheman reigned from and the king,kings and giants right, and so Arba
doesn't show up in the Table ofNations, but yet he's listed as the
patriarch. That's nonsensical. If allthe nations that were to populate, we're

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of the we're listed in the Tableof Nations. And last there was a
second incursion, which I also gointo book two, and I'm still open
to the possibility of survival. ButRafayem are somehow distinct from the Nephelene which
were before the flood, but that'sa different topic. And then the other
one where you actually get a Rafayemtribe listed twice in the Bible, in

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Genesis fourteen in the War of Giantsand then in Genesis fifteen as part of
the Mighty seven which also includes theMighty ten in the land occupying the land
that Jehovah is going to provide toAbraham as he starts to assemble the Covenant
for the post Aluvine world that willbecome the Holy Covenant with Israel and the

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land gifted to them. So Rafayemis used only twice as a tribe,
but the word rafa as a changedto giant is used twenty five times,
including the two for Rafayem. SoNephileine is only used three times. Once
in Genesis sixt' four, wherethe giants are originally created as giants,

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goes back to the word nepeel andNephylem, and then twice in numbers thirteen
thirty three when it's discussing the Anakingiants and the three Kings that I just
mentioned that Caleb and Joshua had mentioned, and it's in the Embellished Evil part
of the report. Now, thatdoesn't mean that they weren't giants. It
just means that they weren't nepheline.But underlying the veracity to the fact that

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they understood how much bigger the giantswere before the flood, that they would
use that term to describe the anakine. The anakeem are giants. They're just
rufayeen giants. And how do weknow that because in Deuteronomy two, where
they're listed as giants like the emineand the Zamzzem and the whorem that goes

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back to the Hebrew word rafa,which is the plural for rafaem. Now
you also have rafa that's also usedfor disembodied spirits. That's seventy four ninety
six versus seventy four ninety seven andseventy four ninety five, which means to
heal or to be a doctor.And that's the root word, and it
has meanings that overlaps into the spirits, the demons of seventy four ninety six

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and the giants of seventy four ninetyseven. And it is also the source
word for a couple of people namedRapha in the Old Testament as well.
So you have all those other meaningsthat are dancing around with the giants and
the disembodied spirits that intermix. Thatgives you a lot more words. And
the only other time in the KGVwhere you have a giant translated into English

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is one time in the Book ofJoshua, and that comes from the Hebrew
word gibur which is the male maleplural Giberim used to describe giants in Genesis
six' four, And that one'ssort of up in the air. Is
it describing a giant or just amighty one? Because Gilberim shows up like
one hundred and fifty seven or eighttimes in the Old Testament a lot of

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times described for giants, but notalways, so I'm just skimming. You
have a really nice website that giveseveryone a small, it's still pretty conclusive
glimpse into each chapter, which isvery generous of you to make that available.
I still recommend everybody go by Genesissix Conspiracy Part two and one,

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because they, I say, intersectin many different ways. Your head will
spin if you try to absorb allthis information at one time, So just
take it as like a whole ayear project almost to just do some research
on the side. I wanted toask you, Gary about have you heard
of Michael Heiser and all this reversingreversing Hermann talk about the Yelohem and any

(24:53):
of that. Did you ever listento any of his work. I'd never
listened to his work. I neverread his work. I understand all of
my I understand my research dovetails wellwith him. I understand some of my
conclusions, let's say, on revelationand other things, don't coincide with Heiser.
But he was, as I understood, he was talking more from a

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Judaic perspective than a Christian perspective.So that would be why some of those
changes might be there. And that'swhat I understand anyways. But I would
say my work would fit very wellwith his from what I know about it.
And you're going to get Heiser onsteroids in book two. So for
one example, and I heard alot about his approach to the word harmageddon

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in the New Testament, and hetook that back to the Council of the
Assembly and Isaiah fourteen, okay,and how he got there two between the
eye end and the silencing and theOld and the New Hebrew and all that
sort of stuff. I take thatand I give it a walk through so
that people know how it gets there. Then I add all the other context

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around it and where it's used tounderstand that this is the location for Armageddon
and it's not on the Valley ofMeguido. That doesn't have a mountain,
right, there is a city ofMeguido at the foot of Mount Herman,
and so I give that all thatcontext. So some of the things that
he's covered off, I think Igo quite a bit deeper because I haven't

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heard any of the stuff that Iwas talking about there. And if you
want to know about the Council ofthe Gods, and I know he's done
work on that with the elohem andDeuteronomy thirty two and how that all intersects
that comes with explaining the hierarchy ofthe angels, both loyal and rebellious.
So again I go very deep onthat. So the term gibbering, you

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said it didn't necessarily mean giants.Yeah, so you have to be careful.
Really. Yeah, in your previousinterviews, it seems like I heard
you call King James the King JamesBible GIBBORI so explain that he is a
sponsor for the KGV Bible, wherehe's introduced as the mighty King James,

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and I don't think that's a coincidence. And he was the king that really
made famous the divine right to ruleand in the inheritance rights of the royals
as their crown they receive their authorityfrom Mount Herman, from the Council of
Gods and one specific god that theywould trace their royal bloodline back to a

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specific nephelme or rephaem or scioned onesin and then back to a patriarchal godike
with King Charles the Third, wherehe swore an oath the goddess to one
specific god of the pantheon that wasresponsible for probably the major portion of his
bloodline and gives them that divine rightto rule. And King James would have
had the same things. So that'sa term that when you look at the

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word royale, and I explain royalin the new book as well, I
do rexidaeis or exiduce in book one, which means kings of God. Royal
is Old French for king, inLatin for regal, and indo Arian for
rule, and there's other words thatare associated in there. Indo Arian is

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the language of the giants of theoriginal language, and it is also in
part from Al, as in Baal, which is a transmitting lord god in
terms of how the occult people couldbe master god. Kind of a couple
other names that would go with it, but Al is a transliteration of el

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the Hebrew word for an angel ora god, and so he is a
royale and of a genealogical bloodline andback to a specific gens. Whether it's
an Lbi gens or a Julia gensor an Elvin gens, they all have
specific genes and a genealogy that theytrack back into prehistory. Okay, I

(29:07):
heard you talk about the Elbe gensand the Julia gens. Explain that what
are those? I have never heardthose terms. Yeah, it's in book
one for lb Gen's, I coverit again in book two, and then
I add on the Julia gens anda couple other ones. So we'll take
alb Gen's because it's and that's whyI used it in the first book.
But lb comes from a Latin wordthat means white, pale, or words

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like that, just as giants hadpale skin. Gens goes back to Latin
as being from a specific genealogical linefrom one specific patriarch. So in that
description they're giving a lot about whothey are, just as they're heraldry and
their coats of arms and standards willhave taciturn imagery for the genealogies as well,

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and the Julia gens is specifically thatpeople might know more as the Italian
black nobility. Understanding, there's twodifferent ones. There's the ones that are
the merchants that moved over from theMiddle East later and then the Julia gens,
which is part is the older blacknobility within Italy. They take their
genses back to Julius, Caesar,Augustus, back to the senator families,

(30:25):
back to Romulus and Remus. Wow, amazing, Gary, I know that
you are a pro with talking aboutthe genesis, so to speak of the
different creatures such as giants slash nepheline, and so if we go to the

(30:47):
opposite extreme, which is the verylittle creatures like fairies, dwarfs and elves,
can you speak about their beginnings andare they part of the factions?
Are they part of the factions thatare warring against other tribes of giants or
are they warring against themselves? Canyou talk about them? Yeah, they're
spurious creations akin to the nepheline,and the Nephileine would be higher up on

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the visible ones as opposed to theinvisible ones. Right, the invisible ones
is in the fallen angels, andI guess you might include the disembodied spirits,
but they're essentially the giants, sothey're lower than the hierarchical order of
the fallen angels, and they're higherthan the elementals, which the fairies would
fall into. And book one Italk about three groups of elementals, good

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looking ones like tinker bells portrayed asor a fairy queen sort of imagery,
right, and mischievous ones like leprechauns. And within those groups they have many
different kinds of those sort of centralthemes, and that's the same on all
continents around the world, common legacythat goes back into prehistory. And then

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there's the ugly ones like the dwarvesor the trolls or the gnomes, and
then the grays of the gray gnomes. And I've put in first book one
descriptions of fairy encounters, and theylook identical to the grays of the alien
mythos. And they come through fairyportals or fairy domans or fairy mounds with

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unidentified flying aircraft or UFOs as weunderstand them today. They kidnap people,
they do sexual experimentation on them thatpeople go back without a memory, and
they're trying to renew their DNA,so they're part of the High Army,
they're just at the lower level.And the fourth group, which I talk
about in book two is the salamanders, which are larger than the elemental little

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ones, and they are taller thanhumans, and they are reptilian, and
they're the ones that seem to bepart of the underground sightings and also part
of a mythos as well. Soyou have a hierarchy of visible ones that
include the descendants of the royals whohave their own councils and thrones, then

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the rule from the earth, andthey're doing the bidding of the invisible ones,
and then these other groups are comingthrough from other dimensions and aiding support
to the royales who rule this worldand doing the bidding of their masters,
who are the invisible ones. It'sinteresting that in books and movies and such,

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these different entities and creatures to theelves, dwarfs, fairies, giants,
reptilians, they're in a lot ofthese sci fi and fancy movies and
books. And it's interesting that justthe Israelites history with the Bible and the
Hebrew Judeo Christian religion is basically handeddown from the beginning to us today the

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occult different entities and creatures and whathave you. That their lore and lair
legacy is also told in lots ofmovies and books to this day as well.
So that's interesting. Yeah, Andwe get biblically some validation just as
we can make a connection. AndI have a great document for people or
they want to get the demon documentfor me how we know these are the
disembodied spirits of giants. And Itake that back biblically explain it in the

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New book as well. But wealso get elementals in the New Testament,
and there's two kinds of elementals thatare explained. One is for the elemental
parts of the universe and stuff likethat. Are there the other ones like
that's saying like in the Book ofGalatians, And it can also be translated
as rudiments and it goes back toI think stoyak and in Greek, and

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these are the ones that we arein Bondage two. That's part of the
hierarchy. Okay, amazing, thankyou so much. And I go through
that in book two as well.Very important for the Christian that is in
the spiritual warfare to know that there'sa difference, and Jesus seemed to know
about a different type of demon.He said, this kind goes out not

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by anything but prayer and fasting,and he talked about the desert places.
And you're providing a historical context andreally doing a ton of outside research and
connecting what is this tribe or thisname come from. And then how do
you know which books are legit thatyou want to include and talk about historically?

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Basically you're going into ancient Palestinian,Egyptian everything. So first criteria,
you can get a lot of sourcing, it's just do you want to use
it or not? But my firstcriteria is do we have any sort of
reference to this in the Bible,because I would like to take everything back

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and does it not only have areference, but is that reference fitting?
Does it fit to what the Bibleis talking about, to the sources talking
about from a polytheis perspective to whatwe're told from a monotheist teaching in our
scripture. So that's the first thingI do, and then I look at
how much detail and how much backupsupport it would have in that I might

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want to use it. For example, so if I'm talking about the hybrids
of the giants who had to becauseof the fertile issue after the flood,
intermarry with humans lest they go extinct. And we can talk about how they
were infertile if you like, andI'll come back to that then. But

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these hybrids are talked about in severalEgyptian texts and some other ones I like
the egyptsig Ones and the Execration textsin particular, although there's a couple in
there and they're talking about them,and they're called the Shazoo, and they
populate the Covenant Land, and theyare inclusive of the Amorites. Patriarch lists

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people listed in the Canaanites tribes.There are three patriarchs Canaan, Heth and
Sidon, and then there's nine patriarchswho don't have a name. The only
patriarchs of the seventies listed in thetable do nations that don't have a patriarch,
and explain how that comes about inthe New books. So but anyways,

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these and they include Canaanites and includeother people of these chatzoos. And
they were seven to nine feet talland lived amongst the anachein Lele Nique as
they're called an exircation text, andso I make all of those connections.
Only do you get dimensions, youget locations, you get names, and

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you get things that fit with biblicalhistory in those locations. That's the standard
that I like to use. IfI want to go to let's say,
put in more about the rough Fayen, I'm going to go to the old
Semitic Eugartic text, which was locatedbetween Tyr and Mount Herman, where it
has Baal and Ashtaroth and l andall of the Canine pantheon talked about.

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But this is opposed to Alluvian documentversus Antidiluvian, and you have the creation
of the Rafayem RPM as its transliteratedYugur defects RepU or repm for Rafaem,
just as that h is hard andsilent as it gets into newer Hebrew,
and Hebrew is part of the Semiticlanguages. These are the ones where you

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get the applications of the three meaningsof Rafayem as dynastic kings, as the
assembly of Dtanu, that the assemblyof God, the offspring of Baal and
Ashtaroth, both creating giants after theflood. They are giants, and they

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are healers, and they can healpeople, and they can go back and
forth between Hades or Shale or asBaal would go through the cave at Mount
Hermon on a daily basis to inspectboth of his kingdoms. And that even
as disembodied spirits, they're helped intoat the funeral rites taken into the other

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world, and they have the abilityto come back and forth. And these
are the spirits of the Rafaim whenthey die that they're talking about. So
locations, you get names, youget the Bayl Panthea, you get records
that are parallel and telling the samestory that the Bible tells us, but
from a polytheist lens. And Iuse some words and things to cover off

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giants in Mesopotamia and try and linkthat back in absolutely And the yugurritic texts
also has an epic of Gilgamesh whichis the same kind of accounting, and
you can use that as a parallelexample. And then I'll even talk and
bring in some of the Greek giantspost Alluvian and how they talk about giants
that were created that went extinct beforethe flood, and there was a new

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race of giants created by the offspringgods after the flood, just as you
get the same story with the Eugaritictexts and the same story that we learned
with the refaem in the Old Testament, and a good case for second incursion
God. There's so much here.My brain is going, wait, what's

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that? What does that mean?I'm sorry, I would be representative of
that audience member that had never readthe book. In polytheism, we get
gods like in the Canaanite pantheon froma biblical perspective that would have a parent
god named L and then a pantheonof gods that ruled before the flood,

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and L created giants before the flood, and then Bael is one of his
sons as his Mott, as hisMelkart, and these are offspring gods,
and in their belief system or themythos, that comes down as they procreated
with other angels to create these offspringgiants in the physical world. I don't
think they are. I think they'rejust part of the larger fallen angels.

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But that's their reasoning for how theyget there. And so in the Greek
pantheon, for example, you haveKronos and Gaea, which are parent gods,
and a whole host of Olympian godsthat are overthrown, just as with
Baal taking over from Al after theflood, you have Zeus and Aphrodite and

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Poseidon and all of these gods thatare post Alluvian giants that are all offspring
gods. It's the same thing inall of the pantheons and the Sumerian pantheon
and new Tmt and the others areparent gods. They're overthrown by the offspring
gods, and they show up likeankey and on Leo for example, after
the flood, and they rule afterthe flood and take over because their rank

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and order is the same as therank and order and counterfeited thereof what's in
heaven. So that's the word hostof heaven, which means an army of
angels, and they would have rankand order. So they moved up after
the parents' gods went to the pitprison, and so they take over after

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the flood. They commit the samecrimes, likely before the time of Babel
or but by the time of Babelthey are going to be locked into the
pit prison as well for doing thesame crimes. And then they're no longer
walking amongst us. Doesn't mean allthe fallen angels went there, just the
ones who created the laws of creationand were blaspheming and the Holy Spirit.

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So we don't know how many aren'tin the pit prison, but they took
over to rule the Council the Godsthat Satan sits on to this day,
so we know that's likely what happenedthere. So it's very important to understand
offspring gods and parent gods because theoffspring gods lived before the flood, they
just weren't in power and didn't andcommit the crime. And so if you're

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looking at the gods, you needto understand what the name of the god
is. Was it offspring or not? So is it antidiluvian event or post
alluvian And a good example would beHercules is a post alluvian giant created through
Zeus and alchemy, the human female, not antidiluvian giant. That's very interesting

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that we need to wrapprehends around thefact that the fallen angels set themselves up
as gods and goddesses, and thentheir offspring, who were the nephelim,
they also set themselves up as godsand goddesses as the representatives, Yes,

(43:45):
as their divine representatives. Okay,so that's interesting that I learned something new
every day. The latest conversation thatwe've had amongst the red pilled folk is
female angels, both fallen as wellas holy. And even though there haven't
been any necessarily female angels in theBible except the stork women that we're supposed

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to be angels now and Zachary,are those holy stork angel women or are
they fallen? Those would be holy? But they are okay, yeah,
because and they're working at God's behalfand they're going to set Babbylon in place
as an epha for the end time. It's an end time prophecy. She's
going to be in sheen Ar andI cover that off in the in the
new book as well. We can'tready to read it, but well,

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here's what's going on is that theycan take a form that they want,
of any form in the physical world, and they create an oiqtarian as I
call it, a dwelling place fortheir spirit, just as you have an
oiquitarian in heaven. That's the wordthat's used in Jude one six and two
Corinthians five to two and Jude onesix is the habitation that they left,

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and in five to two is thehouse in heaven. It means a dwelling
place for the spirit. And sothey can be this world is a spirit
being, but they can't physically interactunless they create a soul and a body
to house their spirit that comes fromheaven. And we're told there's three components.
There's the soul and the body ofthe earth, and the spirit that

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comes from heaven. And so whenmere people just talking about the soul,
they're not really talking accurately, orit's the polytheist brainwashing that likes to downplay
the spirit that comes from heaven.And so when you create a body and
soul for your spirit, now youcreate DNA and then you can pass that

(45:35):
da in DNA on to create offspringthat would have similarities to you with them
the DNA and some of the giftsthat would be passed on. Now,
when we look at what they cando, they can also take a gender
of their form. So when theytook a form you could look at isis
after the flood as the counterpart ofOsiris. That is, in their understanding,

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the fertility goddess in the Holy Spirit. Okay, So this is the
counterfeiting of part of the counterfeiting ofthe bloshems of the Holy Spirit, Yes,
creating something in place of her.So Sophia the goddess of wisdom and
the female mother goddess, noting thatwisdom is also understood as Sophia in the

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New Testament, that's the Greek wordfor it, and that Sophia is was
the bringer of knowledge and understood asthe Holy Spirit, did the same things
as the Holy Spirit, and producedthrough this nebulous life force a gnosticism,
the twelve archons that included Satan andthe God of the Bible, who they
say went wrote. And so thisis a complete sort of counterfeiting. And

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she's the one who supplies this sortof the source of all knowledge, right,
just says the Atman or the Atmaparticle or the Brahmin or the Divine
Essence and new Age is the samesort of understanding. So when we get
the wisdom of the world presented inthe seven Sacred sciences and liberal arts of

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today, it's guided by philosophy thelove of Sophia. Oh interesting, Oh
my gosh, I've never thought aboutthat. Wow, I think a class,
there's an educational course that's Sophia orsomething like that, or the religion
of theosophy, the god literally SophiaGod or goddess Sophia. They have to

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watch how they name things. So, yeah, they created all of these
female angels in the physical world.They were just a spiritual being, probably
genderless in the spiritual world. Butagain it's a violation against the laws of
creation and the life force provided bythe Holy Spirit, and the counterfeiting of

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a holy spirit. They do allof that, So expect that divine essence
to be a bigger thing as itconnects into the mark of the beast for
people who take that mark as partof doing something that yes, where a
sin is not forgiven. Right,Wow, that's pretty deep. Since we're
talking about female entities, I knowthat the big thing that people are talking

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about in the red Pill Christian circleis also Lilith, and so that we
know that there's some apocryphal books thatstate that Lilith was in fact supposedly Eve's
first wife. Now I'm not sureabout that. That seems pretty blasphemous to
me. But what do you thinkabout Lilith being quote unquote Adam's first wife

(48:34):
before Eve. It comes with Jewishmysticism in Eastern Jewish mysticism versus the Western,
so Heliopolis' is Western Babylon is theEastern portion, and that comes back
at a time that intersects. Itcomes into Judaism at a time that intersects

(48:54):
with the Babylonian exile. And sothere's always been polytheism within Israel, but
it starts to gain a little bitmomentum. In a parallel case, is
what the scenes are, a polytheistversion in the Western Heliopolis version of a
great document that walks people through itscripturally and church fathers and how they were

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described, because there's a lot ofin my belief misinformation that these were Christians.
They were anything but Christians. Theyjust draft like polytheism does all of
the patriarchs of the Bible into theirbelief system and change them. Great Document.
I cover scenes in great detail inthe first book, but not with
this biblical information that I love togive to Christians, and it's real,

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it's a real eye opener. Sothe Lilith those comes from that time in
exile and Babylon, and the historicalroots to Lilith is Sumeriat and she is
the offspring of tmat so either anoffspring god or a nephilo and you could

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read the mythologies both ways. Andshe is the second in the line to
as the fairy queen from a matriarchalperspective, from the dragon Theomat, which
is equivalent to Leviathan as a serpenttype of angel, so a seraphim fallen

(50:20):
seraphim angel and part of the matriarchalblood line of the females, and that
creates the fairy So she's depicted asan owl, which is the other imagery
for the fairy blood line. Soin the fairy blood line, you have
the matriarchal blood line. That's fairyas an allegory or an owl with with
with lolith is associated with the patriarchalis raven and dragon. Wow, that's

(50:45):
fascinating and see growth. Yeah,And the higher you go within polytheists is
particularly secret societies, but polytheism asa whole well is the more important.
The mother goddess is okay, andexpect that to come back in a higher

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level in the end time as thebabylon religion comes about. So the best
analogy I can have is with theYanju, and they have these bees in
that sort of interchange with the Fleurde Lyte for their emblem and a lot
of their heraldry, and that sortof goes back to this queen of the
hive, the queen of Heaven,the mother goddess, and these abilities to

(51:30):
have telepathy and think within in ahive mind, and so that in their
belief system is higher than the malepatriarchy. Just as Sophia created the Twelve
Arkons. Oh okay, so thetwelve Arcons came from Sophia. Yeah,

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and as a nebulous life force thatthey don't really describe the new as days.
Yeah, Oh, Don would havea lot of commentary. And I
wish we had more time to eachof us. Just I'll have to do
like an after party show with myboys and discuss all this and maybe we
can do a little reading of quotesand things. But Gary, when you

(52:14):
look at the news today, andmaybe not even just the news, but
just the way that technology is advancingand just going leaps and bounds with AI
and neuralink, and I want tobelieve that Elon has the best intentions.
It looks pretty cool every day.Whatever I see. But there's this concept
of us melding our minds together todo things and becoming that hive mind that

(52:37):
you mentioned. Is that the firstscene that kind of pops in your head
is your researcher, you look atthis kind of thing. Yeah, and
if you look at what Elon Muskassaid, it's this AI and technology is
like summoning the demon. Right,they create these day i'm on algorithms that
are invisible, that work behind andare in scene, and that probably technological

(53:00):
level we're not aware of or canunderstand, that's going to help build their
platform for what's coming. So withinthe occult, you have white hats and
black hats. So it's the microdualismversus the macro dualism of good versus evil,
whereas the god of the Bible isevil, and whichever god they're using

(53:20):
to represent the head of their pantheonis the good god and Satan is the
general one. Is we would understandthat within the religion you have bloodlines and
good people that have the interest ofhumankind in mind, as they say,
and the ones who would really justlike to eliminate humankind, and that those
are the dark hats. So wesee this in the concepts of black magic

(53:45):
and white magic. We see thisin the concepts of evil witches and good
witches and all, and they bothrepresent the same thing. And it's not
that the white hats and it soundselon Musk in this case, who wants
to develop good unquote AI. Itall has the same agenda just from pulls

(54:06):
apart the cattle herd us into itand to brainwash us and make sure we
end up where we want to go, and that they still worship the same
pantheon of God, whether they're whitehats or black hats. That's amazing.
Like I said, it takes meback to my New Age days. The

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archons were always talked about. AndI'm having like memories where you were talking
about Charles the third and when hetook his oath for it to be king.
So how did I didn't watch itbecause I'm not a royal watcher?

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How did he go about that?Did he name the god that he was
he was swearing knows too? Ordid he just call it? They would
love to they just do it genericallygod, And if they weren't in Western
tradition, they would probably specifically namethat god. But they've been in battle

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against Christianity in the West for twothousand years. Then they didn't want to
take on the wrath of the RomanChurch and have them put in try and
install another king. So it wasjust the same battle that goes on with
Protestantism and catholic But the royals,this is a this is an inheritance ritual

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of the divine right to rule thatgoes through the bloodline dynasty and the rules
and all the traditions go back intoprehistory to the original kings who usurp with
the divine right to rule both beforeand after the flood. Wow, that's
a lot of record keeping. Yes, that's a lot of record keeping for

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sure. I see you like this. Then you know that imagery that we
have of the family tree, Yes, the most precious depending on which branch
that you're in. A tree that'sin the occult is the elm tree,
ash tree is considered the same,and an oak tree is also similarly understood.

(56:23):
And like the two author d Dinanawas the most holy tree of them.
But they're all these branch trees,right, And so that's the imagery
that's used in the Thalambic genealogical treethat was developed for their bloodlines and branches,
and it's also known as the worldtree that joins heaven and Earth,

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and that their heaven is in hadeswhere their gods are, and the roots
of the tree go into hades whomthat's the branch back to the specific god.
And they have another tholemic tree whichis based on the evergreen cedar tree
that has the trunk organization for allof their organizational structure of secret societies and

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the branches that go in and around. Both are imageries of tree that are
at Mount Herman. Interesting. Itmakes me think of that horror movie The
Nightmare at Elm Street, so thateven the name or the title of the
movie has some sort of occult significance. It's interesting Elm Street. It's not
there for Right and one of theeasiest versus to get this. Ezekiel has

(57:32):
some good passages, but amright whoare living in the Mount Herman region after
the War of Giants and under Kingaug they're described in Amos chapter two as
being like the cedars of Lebanon andas strong as the oaks. Wow.
Interesting, Gary, I know thatDawn had touched upon this, that you

(57:53):
and Donna touched upon this before westarted. So the Highlander movie is based
on their occult secret society competition witheach other. So could you touch on
that a little bit. Understand alloccult literature has a fairy tale structure to
it, so that has got aninteresting story, and that the meanings are

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hidden in the allegories and the imageryand the things that are shown throughout the
movie or the TV series or thewriting, and so the Adepts understand those
meetings and they get the true story. So this has been boiled down to
I think as being representative Antichrist typefigures where there can only be one.

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Just as you have all of thesebloodlines from around the world, they're all
rivals, but there can only beone dynastic family in the New Age or
the New Atlantis or the New CounterfeitMillennium that they're offering. The other families
will be there, but there canonly be one dynastic family that's going to

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win out. And that's why they'vehad so many wars. And of course
they take their head and they getthat quickening, and just as you have
them pass heads. What's interesting inthe execration text and in other sources,
but the execration texts of Egypt arevery explicit about this is the worst death
of Royale could have is have theirheads chopped off. Right, And in

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the Eugaritic text it talks about theraphaem as being all aspects of the word
rafa, including healers, so theycould heal themselves and others, and they
give examples of that, and thatit's thought that unless you took them by
chopping their head, that they hadability to repair their part. So if

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you chopped off their hand or givethem a wound, unless it was so
sudden and so quick, they couldheal themselves. Some people believe through technology
like this arcopha guy or sarcophagus perhaps, but we don't get get that out
of prehistory. We just know thatthey had the ability to repair themselves.
So even when David goes and theyslayed Goliath with the stone, right,

(01:00:10):
and he doesn't use the other fivestones, he's saving those other four to
bring down one of the other fiverufaying kings of the Philistine Pentapolis if they
show up as well, to comedown onto the battlefield. But then he
take the sword of Goliath and chopsgliath head off right. He was already

(01:00:31):
dead, and that would have doneit right through the forehead. That those
were deadly weapons for the slingers anddeadly accurate. You wouldn't have to do
that, And I think that's inthe new book. I give more examples
of that beheading from the descriptions thatare within the Bible. But this is
a well understood thing that it didn'tprevent them from going to where they wanted.

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It prevented them from going to wherethey wanted to go in the afterlife
translition. They're either going to bewandering spirits that aren't in hades or they're
part of the terrible ones that godirectly to the Pitt prison. Wow.
Interesting, amazing. You were goingto talk about the female Nephelim giants not

(01:01:15):
kidding be able to have children anymore. Yeah, and I just wanted to
get back to that bookmark. Yeah, sorry, I forgot about that.
I get down rabbit trails and sometimesforget on some of the things that they're
asked. Yeah. So that wordterrible one it describes these Rafayem kings were
talking about in Ezekiel thirty two earlier, and the word erite and arytine which

(01:01:39):
is by the way root word foryugurit erite as the second word in ug
or odd being first word. Soit was probably the city of a the
Terrible One before he moved to MountHerman after the War of Giants when most
of the Rafaem were wiped out.But the word erite, it would be

(01:02:00):
like kyiath Ugart city of Augue theterrible One, and he's a roughiem.
He's the last of the Rafayime ofthe first generation, as he's described biblically.
Now, that word at red haslots of descriptions as you take that
back to Hebrew that describes giants likestrong and stuff like that. But two

(01:02:22):
parts of the meaning say that theywere childless and infertile. And it's not
that they didn't reproduce, and it'snot that I think they had a sperm
issue or an ovarase issue or anythinglike that. I think they couldn't produce
enough females. And that's why thematriarchal bloodline that I explain in book one

(01:02:45):
is so important that if they wantedto start a new dynasty, you would
have to have a pure bred rarematriarchal queen to start a new dynasty with
another pure patriarchal bloodline. But it'sthe matriarchal that is the key for new
dynasty. And what's really interesting aboutthat is that if they couldn't produce females,

(01:03:07):
then they were going to go extinct. So that's why they had to
reproduce with humans so that they wouldn'tgo extinct. We get an example of
this dynasty application in the Bible.It doesn't happen in the Table of Nations.
It's andendum to the Table of Nationsthat you see in First Chronicles and

(01:03:30):
in Genesis thirty six with the dukesof Sir the Horme giants. Sir goes
back to the hebrew sature by theway, and was in a hairy meaning.
And I don't think he was goatlike, but who knows. Maybe
he was a goat like looking godfrom one of the gods, who knows,
but that's what is. But hehas a daughter named a Teamna who's

(01:03:53):
a purebred female giant, and shemayrees elafhas son of Esau, brother of
Jacob, and they produce a newdynasty, the Amalakm or the Malachites.
They're not the Amalachem that are talkedabout in Genesis fourteen, as a lot

(01:04:17):
of people think, because then theBible would be in contradictions. So they're
named eponymously, named after the tribeof Amalakim that lived in Petra. And
they will go and live in thePetra area with the Amalakim and set up
their hybrid nations. And these arethe ones that are waiting for guess who

(01:04:38):
to come out of Egypt to wipethem from the face of the earth.
Israel. It's the first battle atrefit them. When Israel has no weapons,
not trained in war, a Ragtai, fleeing nation of slaves goes into
this hybrid race backed by Amalakm giantsto wipe them from the face of the

(01:05:00):
earth. And why because by lawthen they would inherit the legal rights to
the blessings that they say Jacob stolethe blessings, the inheritance rights and the
magiatic blessing for their dragon Messiah.That's what they were intending on doing by

(01:05:23):
trying to take them out when Israelwas at their weakest. I just typed
in the Amalekites and found that thisis actually in the news. Three days
ago, Netanyahu made some kind ofa statement and everybody's condemning it. Sayingly,
you talked about Amelech and the Israelites, they're the ones that are being

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accused of genocide. Now, it'svery amazing to see even the term Hammas.
I don't know if you've researched,I'm sure you have in the Bible,
that this is actual prophecy coming outright now about the whole existence of
Israel, something about umast having todo with the extermination of Israel and that
the whole world would have to dowith this. And now we see everybody

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chanting Palestine this, I mean Palestinethat, And it's amazing to see these
names pop up, and they're likethe keys understanding the things that are happening
right now, including what you justsaid with the amalace. So Predo,
should you go look up Psalm's eightythree and when it talks about this conspiracy
in the times of David. Sothis is a continuing transgenerational blood oath that

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I talk about in book one,and I continue into book two to wipe
Israel and Christians from the face ofthe earth, because that's the only way
to insure that in their belief thatwe can't reach our destiny of being resurrected
to be like angels in the futuretime as the inheritors of eternity. So
in Palm's eighty three it lists abunch of nations that are conspiring to wipe

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them from the face of the earth. Now, what's interesting if we look
at the Palestinians, they're part ofthat nation that's listed there, and that's
the Philistines. And the Philistines hadwere hybrid humans because we traced them back
to the Table of Nations, butin their migrations they moved to Crete through

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southern Canaine, into Egypt and intoCrete and there they intermarry with some of
these dark haired giants that I talkabout in the new book, and these
are people like the Cherithne, theCaftine, the casual Heme, the Pelachine
and create a hybrid race. Andwhen they migrate back to the covenant land

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and expropriate that land in Gaza afterthe Santorini disasters and before the exodus,
these are the groups that are goingto push out the Avine and most of
the Ovine, most of the Anachemfrom that area. Although the Anachem and
the the Avim will maintain part ofthe Pentapolies three of the five cities,

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just as Gath is an Anachem cityfor example. Explain all of this in
the new book, and that theseare the descendants of the Palestinians who tried
to wipe Israel from the face ofthe earth all throughout the Book of Judges
and all the way through to KingDavid and King Solomon, which is why
I have all the different campaigns onthere. So to have them swear a

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transgenerational oath in their constitution to wipeIsrael from the face of the earth ought
not to be surprising. One ofthe other nations in there enlisted in that
conspiracy is the nation of Tyr,and of course Hesbellah is located where the
Empire of Tyr was located. Andthey've sworn an oath to wipe Israel from

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the face of the earth, andthey're attacking Israel at the same time.
This blood oath will boil over inthe end time again, seems like it's
going to begun. Yeah, Ican't wait to read the book. I'm
really looking forward to it me too, I can't wait to get my hands
on it as well. I havean autograph copy of the Genesis one Conspiracy

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back in twenty fifteen. Thank youGary for sending that to me back then.
And I haven't gone through it all, but I've read portions of it.
I just I haven't read the parttwo yet. But I'm just since
I get to talk to you inreal life, we listened to you and
so many mutual friends and amazing showsthat you go on, and we're so

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honored and thankful to have you withus on Strange Oclock podcast. I'm interested
as far as a Christian that Itry to spend my time absorbing the word
and getting fed. And we're goinginto spiritual warfare, fighting demons and witches
and the spiritual dimensions and whatever theseother dimensions. And when it comes to
looking at the hierarchy of angels,for example, just to take one,

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well, when we look at theenemies camp, which you're an expert at,
can we take that same kind ofequation and look at the Lord's angels
and how his hierarchy works and someof these mysteries about the Temple and the
New Jerusalem and the lamp stands,and do you when you read the Bible.
Do you see both science mirror oryeah. What I would view this

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is that the information that we getis of the in the Bible is essentially
the order that's in heaven. Andhow we translate that is that the fallen
ones counterfeit everything. So they setit up in the same way. They
so the words that we're using,if you're going to use the word watchers,

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we're going to see at the topfour groups of watchers on both and
they're going to be the Ofanium,Cherubim, archangels, and Seraphon. And
in how I explain it, it'sdifferent than the standard three three and three
because you've got four groups of watchers, and I explain how we know that
in the New Book, and thenyou have other groups underneath. So you're

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going to have Icarus, mighty Angels, You're going to du NamUs, you're
going to have the Excusia Arca,all these different groups, and we get
most of the additional names of thelower levels explained in the New Testament,
and we get all of the archangelsthat are at the top level explained in

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the Old Testament. And for peoplewho say I've never heard of O Fanning
how do you say that's in thebook. It is, it's just not
translated into English. So in Ezekielone three and ten, you have the
vision that Ezekiel has that has thethrone of God with the trubum, just
as the troub pull at chariot asthey're described in the Book of Psalms,

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and that you also have an angelthat is in the wheels, and one
of those faces of that angel isa truebum, which is different than the
four faces of a troubum. Nowin the wheels as they're going round and
around. That's the Hebrew word gilgalis in gilgal rafaem or the wheel of
the giants, right, So Gilgalmeans wheel. Now, okay, the

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angel is an old fan that's inthere also means weel, but only used
for wheel angels, the old fanand the imil plural, just as Seraphim
and Trubam are the old fanime.And that's the name that shows up as
watchers in the Book of Enoch,which tells us that there was at least
an original whole manuscript at one time, that they took that word back to

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the original Hebrew with so and thenthese other ones are laid out in the
New Testament, but they're translated poorly, so they give you multiple different English
translations for the same word, soit might show ups three different translated words.
And then they confused powers with othergroups, so you have to go

(01:12:55):
back to the original Hebrew to findthe consistency, and then to Reestablis published
the order after that. Wow,you see. So do you think that
in Revelation where there's widespread worldwide persecutionof Christians that refuse to take the mark

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of the Beast or the number ofhis name in Revelation that do you think
that the global beheading of Christians isa revenge of the occult Nephilim that have
been beheaded by people like David andwhat have you. That it's like they're

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one last Hurrah to really like gettheir revenge. Do you think that this
is a vengeful thing from the antiChrist of the bloodline of the nepheline who
were beheaded in the Old Testament byIsraelites. Yeah, it's not quite as

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you laid it out, but there'ssome commonalities there. So they want to
make sure that whoever they're eliminating doesn'tcome back, right, it's just to
kill them that they don't have someof this healing power to do so,
because they will probably be eliminating descendantsor people they believe as descendants that will

(01:14:25):
have converted to Monotheism, and sothey don't want them to come back on
war with them as disembodied spirits.So they're going to just chop everybody's heads
off to be safe. And weget an interesting sort of example in the
time of Jesus and John the Baptist. So as John the Baptist gets captured

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and Jesus is out teaching in theCovenant land and the Jewish king Herod,
not the first heard, but thesecond Herod is going to have John the
Baptist beheaded. And this happens beforehe gets reports of this individual that's teaching

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in the valley, and he ismortified because he took his head. He
is what kind of power is goingon here where I killed John the Baptist.
But he thinks that's John the Baptistteaching again out in the towns,
and so that is a witness tothe belief that they have that you have

(01:15:30):
to take the head to be safe, because if it is a giant sort
of bloodline of a pure enough royalthat they're there, they won't go to
sleep, that body will come back. And yes, I think it's connected
to all of that, and thatyou may even have some of these disembodied

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spirits that are infecting humankinds that aren'tgoing along and maybe trying to find their
way into salvation somehow, some whyor not. But they can possess people
and they'll want to make sure theydie with that body as well or go
to the pit prison. So they'regoing to do that more for their own

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preservation, and equally it gets ridof all of the pesky people permanently,
whether they have that ability with theirspirit to rome or not. Well,
I find interesting there is you mentionedearlier that it was a big deal for
them to remove the head of aroyal for the reasons you just discussed and

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or quartering. Yeah, and atthe end or in the end times and
Christians are losing their heads. It'sa backwards compliment because we are the royal
sons and daughter yep of God.Men. Well, now you're talking men's
sister. That's a great way tolook at it. Yeah, So it

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was just a thought in my mindthat's powerful. I think that's that needs
to be reiterated, and we respectyour time so much, Gary, and
I hope everybody will go to Genesissix Conspiracy dot com with an with a
with a six number six. Thankyou for not titling it geneses six conspiracy
like geness like making the end ofGenesis and then I X like nothing cheesy

(01:17:25):
like that. So just making sure. And it's a great honor to get
to hang out with Gary Way andto be able to actually ask him questions
and in real life it's like livingin the podcast. And I hope that
you'll join us Strange o'clock dot com. Please also become a patron. You
can be a part of some ofthese private zoom calls that will then be
podcast later. Gary, would youlike to just wrap up here? What's

(01:17:48):
the final word here? For peoplethat are just like, oh, like,
is there any hope here? Gary? What are are you orthodox?
Can I ask you that question too? What's the right church? Don't go
to Jesuit Catholic chur Where do wego? And what church do we go
to? I'm not for or againstany church if you can find one that

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teaches prophecy and not from a prepreconceived agenda then go to that you can
worship God in any church. SoI'm neither for or against any I just
have surrendered to the fact that ourministers are not taught prehistory in prophecy in
seminary schools, and they're instructed notto teach it, so you're never going

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to get the real whole context.So that's just too big of a wave
to go up against. And youcan be you don't have to go to
church to worship and to read theBible, but it's helpful to So just
understand it's not going to fulfill yourcomplete wish list if you do. And

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they all have issues for the mostpart. I'm sure there's some good ones
out there, but not many,so right I would say that I would
also say I wanted to I misssomething when I was talking about Genesis thirty
six, that word duke, okaywith the dukes of Edom, that you
have that new hybrid line that's theHebrew word or elf as it could also

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be pronounced, and that's the allegorythat the occult uses to marriage into that
blood line and the counterfeit twelve tribesof Israel, that it would be an
addition onto and the sons of Esau. That is the allegory for the Elvin
blood line of the New Age andthe Gnostics or the Fairy blood line.

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And so that word duke, itactually goes back to alf it means chief
and a king, but it's translatedas duke, and duke is a very
important word when it comes to theroyal orders. Play the high level of
duke because there's a lower level meaningof duke and a higher level meaning of
duke as you move higher up.So I just love that translation, just

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like I'm sure unicorn went into theKing James Virgin Bible for the Mighty Prince
James for a reason. Because unicorndoesn't mean a horse with a horn,
a single horn. It means awild bull. It's an occult term for
the stallions that the giants would rideinto war both before and after the flood.

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And also the horn as being areceptacle into another dimension where it receives
knowledge from a unicorn angelic like being, which is an allegory in the occult
for a charubum. Oh. Interesting, and if you ever knew that,
And as you put those pieces together, you have in Greek mythology, which

(01:20:45):
has it the best. You haveZeus or Apollo and many other gods and
goddesses who have their chariots pulled bya white horse, some that shows it
as a unicorn horse. Those arecherubum in that sort of allegory. Well,
and that Anti Christ is symbolized asthe single horn in Daniel seven and

(01:21:06):
eight, which is all part ofthe meet those that I think the Mighty
Prince James was trying to stake outfor his bloodline to become one of the
bloodline wannabes for Anti Christ. Interesting. Thank you so much, Gary,
you did an excellent job. Asusual. We're excited to buy and read

(01:21:28):
your assist sixth Conspiracy one and shealready have one, but Don will and
Michael and I will have to catchup and reading your book. And a
quick question, do you have anyon audiobook by any chance read by a
narrator or by yourself. No,we'll see whether or not we can get
one done. It's a very complicatedbook to do, especially with all the

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footnotes and if you want to getthat in. I've had a lot of
people look at book one. Theyjust say the high cost to expected return
because audio is actually quite small partof the market, so they have to
match that up. I've had alot of people try it though, including
one two a year and a halfago now who had it complete a European

(01:22:12):
group of Christians. And after theygot it all done, they let me
know and they said we're going toget it out. And then I get
an email about a week later andthey said it's been wipe from our computer
lab. Darn elves. They weredevastated. But yeah, so I would

(01:22:33):
love it. It's very difficult toproduce and that's trouble, so I will
continue to try. I've offered itout. I don't need a royalty on
it. Just do it if youwant to do it. I'm fine with
that because I just want to getthe information out for book two. If
people are wanting to get a signedcopy pre ordered, and you can go

(01:22:57):
to my website and you can orderuh pre order for the book, or
you can order a signed copy ofbook one. You can also link over
to Barnesanoble dot com, Amazon dotcom, Amazon dot CA a and for
the kindle version, and when thebook is ready for production, there'll be
kindled for book two as well.And if you live in Canada, if
you want to sign copy, there'sa Canadian page to go do. There's

(01:23:19):
a US page if you're in theUS. If you're anywhere else in the
world, there's an international page.So if you want to get a signed
copy, that's how you get it, just through my website. Awesome,
wonderful, Thank you so much Garyfor your time. We had a wonderful
time with you. As usual,you are a wealth of information and you're

(01:23:39):
one of a kind. There's probablyno other person on the basis of this
earth that besides the people of theOccult bloodline, that know as much about
them as you do. So wereally appreciate you from the bottom of our
hearts. Thank you. We're honoredwith a pleasure talking to you. Yeah.
So yes, people, please goto Gary's website, Genesis sixth conspiracy
dot com and order Genesis six Parttwo, and I probably you will not

(01:24:03):
be disappointed. Some people have readit within a matter of days because it's
so absorbing and amazing and interesting.We need to get these your books need
to be in the hands of pastors, like we need to specifically target those
pastors and be like, look,you need these books, get them both
books. And that's just a matterof the people listening and ourselves to get

(01:24:28):
the word out. But again mymom told me, she's Michael, have
you heard of Genesis six Conspiracy?Gary Wayne? Like, Mom, don't
you listen to spirit for us?Yes, but she's digging around that much
like it's getting out there. That'sthe cool thing is that your name and
work is it's really influencing a lotof people. All Right, very much

(01:24:49):
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