Aliens vs. Presidents: Mass Alien Abductions, UFO Disclosure & Secret Space Programs

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Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, good afternoon everybody. It's the Corypted Unterress. I'm Jessica Jones.
Welcome into a glitch in the matrix where golly, do
we not get glitchy or what? We are going to
have a wonderful show today. I have my good friend
doctor John Stamy here in the studio. Today we're going
to be talking about aliens versus presidents today and so

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much more. I spent the past couple of days actually
down exploring, doing some big footing and dog man scouting
down at the Troop Herd Corridor and that is a hotspot,
hotbed of activity when it comes to mass alien abductions
and UFOs. And we're going to talk a little bit
about that today with doctor John Stamy. He is writing

(01:44):
a book on Georgia UFOs and he is also the
organizer the producer of the World UFO Conference is coming
up in a couple of weeks up in North Georgia.
Be there be square, y'all. We're gonna we're gonna talk
about it that to today a little bit and we're
going to get into some secret space program information and

(02:05):
stuff like that. It's gonna be awesome. So you guys
go get the popcorn and come meet us back over
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and also I do have the Molina Bigfoot Festival coming up.
It's November eighth, and we're going to talk in just
a little bit about our World UFO conference that doctor
John Stamy is organizing. And let me show you a
flyer for that. Please come and see us. It's going
to be fantastic. James Rink will be there, y'all. Our
good friend, James Drink. He has been on the show

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several times. I've been on his channel, Super Soldier Talks.
And of course we have Matthew Delf who we had
that was a three hour long show. I've been doing
a lot of long shows on Saturday night, y'all, so
if you're missing out on that, you're missing out. So
but but Matthew Delf came on. You know, we talked
about that video with the Orbs and the aliens and

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so much more. So, y'all go back two Saturdays ago
he came on. He's going to be at the conference
with US Law, with doctor John Stamy and the head
of Alabama Mofon and some several other people. We'll be
there as well. Okay, y'all, Well, let's get into our
show today. Okay, because I don't know if y'all can
appreciate the thumbnail as much as I do for this show.

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It is the Predator. No, it's actually the Alien from
Alien versus Predator to having a face off with Abraham Lincoln. Okay,
I thought of that myself, y'all. So here we go.
We are exploring the alien agenda today, including extraterrestrial contact
and UFO disclosure with US presidents, mass alien abductions, and

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so much more. We have doctor John Stamy here. We're
also going to talk a little bit about what's going
on in Area fifty one right now as well. Doctor
John Stamy received his doctorate from North Carolina State University
and Raleigh. During his three years in the program, he
was also a research associate with the Ryan Research Center
in Durham, working with renowned researchers such as Sally Ryan

(05:38):
Ryan Feather. Doctor John has always had an interest in
the paranormal. He runs a number of comic cons as
well as Bigfoot and Lizard Maan festivals and UFO conferences.
He hosts co hosts Scary Cast, a weekly podcast on
blog Talk radio, and airs his shows on his YouTube channel,
Bigfoot and Company. He has published several books, including Bigfoot

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Explorers and Introduction into Hominology, look Up in the Sky, Aliens,
UFOs and Anomalies, and Lizard Band, Bigfoot and Friends. You
can find him over on his YouTube channel Bigfoot and
Company and listen to him on iHeartRadio and all over
the place, and you can purchase his books on Amazon.
Please help me. Welcome to the show, my good buddy,

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doctor John Steamy.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Hey John, Hey Jenessica. How are you doing.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm excellent. I'm super excited h to have you here today,
and I'm even more excited to be a part of
your conference that's coming up. The World UFO.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Conference happens the second annual.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Second Man, and it's aid a wonderful venue. We had
the Georgia Bigfoot Conference up there at Piedmont University and
uh and I can't wait to get back up there
in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh, it'll be It'll be fun for sure. And as
you know, we have pre party activities at our m
Rose distillery there. We had almost fifty people at the
last pre party on Friday night. That was a lot,
you know, that's a lot of people to come from Boston,
from Denver, everywhere to come see the speakers and hang

(07:11):
out and talk about Bigfoot. That was that was really
the most fun. It was.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
It was fun. We had a great turnout actually, and
I think the people up in North Georgia are fully
immersed in UFO activity and Bigfoot activity. Dog Man reports
all that kind of stuff, and so I think it
makes for a good crowd because people have firsting experience
up there in those mountains they do.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's really a lot of fun. And I wanted to
say I'm sorry, I'm just I'm in a storytelling mood.
I've been doing a lot of research lately. And you said,
he's you said something about it. I've always been interested
in the paranormal. Yes, Have I ever told you how
early that happened to me? No? Okay, when I was

(07:59):
four years old. It was on a Thursday because my
mother was off on Thursday, so she was in the
in the kitchen ironing and I walked into my bedroom.
And this was before people had air conditioning, and I
lived up in the mountains of North Carolina, and sitting
there in my open window sill were two graves.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh, And.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I screamed, turned around and got my mom came back.
They were gone, but I would not allow my windows
to be opened. For the rest of the time we
lived in that house. My windows had to stay closed,
and I made her go get two fans to cool
my room. I wasn't gonna let anything get into my room.

(08:47):
I'll tell you that. So, yeah, that happened when I
was about four years old, so I've been interested in
a long time.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Good enough, Yes, that is that's terrifying a little bit,
but I can relate because when I was a little kid,
we had lace curtains in our house, and I've talked
about this plenty of times on the show. I hated
those lace curtains because I always felt like something was
watching me from the outside of our home. And we
lived way out in the country on a farm, miles

(09:14):
from just about anybody, and so I was I was
very uncomfortable as a child walking around with lace curtains
around the house. So yeah, and I too was visited
by things, okay, by ghosts and things like that. And
I woke up as an adult with ET's in my
bedroom as well.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
John, So been there, done that, Jessica, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
I know. Do you think a lot of people have
had these encounters and they just don't know it or
I mean, it just seems like maybe it's just because
I'm I'm magnetized the people who have had experiences with ets,
and maybe that's why I feel like it's a larger
number of the population than it really is. What do
you think you think a lot of people have been
abducted or had ET contact.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, I think a lot of people have had et contact.
And there are three ways you can do it. Number one,
you can have regular memories during your day, your night,
or you can get these flashbacks when you see memories
but you don't remember them physically happening and they have
been erased from your mind. You can also have them

(10:22):
in dreams, and I think dreams are very can be
very powerful, and you can remember things, you can be
involved in things in a dream. You can participate in dreams.
And if you're lucky, I mean, and I think you
have to be lucky to be out of your body
and experiencing these things. So there are three ways that

(10:42):
you can be involved in the paranormal. And then there's
number four, which is what James Rink talks about The
Secret Soldier. I'll never forget it was great. I visited
James frequently and we have a lot of weird, weird
adventures in the paranormal. And he said, John, I got

(11:03):
a movie I want you to watch. I said, sure,
have you seen on Netflix Mickey seventeen? No, that's what
James Pattinson, who was the star of Twilight and he
is a I call him a super secret soldier. He
just gets inscripted and he dies a bunch of times

(11:26):
up to seventeen and I'm not going to tell the
rest of the story from there, but that's it's just amazing.
This topic is encroaching upon our reality more than people think.
And when things like that, do you know, all of
a sudden, Rod Serling's on and we have a lot
of weird stuff he's talking about. Then people see start

(11:48):
having a lot of weird experiences. Then we have ghost
shows on, then people start having ghost experiences, and then
we have a lot of UFO shows and that people
are starting to have experiences. So I think popular media
kind of opens us up to what is really there
and silly. As far as I know, there are four ways,

(12:11):
I guess, you know, and I'll just remunerate them and
then we'll go on. Number one is in real time,
Number two is in dreams, Number three is in flashbacks,
and number four is if you're abducted and become a
secret soldier. So those are the four ways of experiences
that I know. That'd be a good chapter in my book,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
It would It would take notes, Yes, take notes on this.
I was actually I was actually just down at a
disclosure conference that I spoke at. I give a presentation
last Friday, actually, and I was surrounded by a lot
of people who have been part of the secret space programs.
And as a matter of fact, I saw this comment

(12:53):
from my good buddy Kent Baxter. Hey Kent. Kent says,
between Truman and Eisenhower is where the president lost his power.
And we're going to be talking a little bit today,
of course about alien abductions and the connection to the
presidents of the United States. Actually, and I just happened
to be good friends with miss Laura Eisenhower. Now she

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is the great granddaughter of Dwight Eisenhower, and so I
can't wait to have her on the show one day
soon to talk about this. But you know, some people
say that her great grandfather made a deal with the
aliens John to I guess it was in trade of
like technology, you know, alien technology, and trade of like

(13:38):
humans for experimentation purposes and things like that, which is terrifying.
But it seems like that's kind of around that time
period when there was an uptick in people getting abducted
by aliens.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Right. Well, first of all, I agree with that I've read.
I've read too much. I've talked to too many people,
and I think a lot of that started. I told
you I wanted to speak about one particular topic, and
that's the great nineteen fifty one movie Oh my god,
I've just forgot starring Michael Rennie and starring Patricia Neal

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and plat to the Alien. Oh what's the name of
the movie, Jessica, I've just lost my mind.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I have no idea, but I bet our chat knows.
Let me, let me scroll Downeah.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
That's the Chat in nineteen fifty one. It's one of
the one of the one of the greatest something non
science fiction movies. I know. Oh my god, Day the
Earth Stood Still. I'm sorry, Day the Earth.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Oh yeah, it's a it's a great film. And what's
interesting is you got one of the top stars in
Britain and you got Patricia Neil who went on to
win an Academy Award as Best Actress. So you've got
great stars in that movie, great writing. And that's when
a UFO landed on the lawn of the White House
and costing not much ha so I think that was

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a case when the media generated people looking for things.
I think the media gets us comfortable with looking things,
especially like close encounters. There were a lot more encounters
after that movie than there were before because people started
understanding what they might be. You know, it's you know,

(15:26):
it's not et the extraterrestrial, I'll tell you that. But yeah,
but yeah, I mean, I think the media tends to
lead us into times when we have more experiences. Do
you perhaps agree or disagree?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yes, I mean, listen everything that's on television, and you know,
anything that comes on TV as programming for the American, American,
for the world, Okay, for everybody who's watching. And so
I am sure they use media to kind of do
a type of soft disclosure and to disclose things and
stuff like that. I actually do recall doing a remote

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viewing target. Someone had tasked me with UFOs over the
White House in nineteen fifty two, and I saw someone
else had mentioned we were trying to figure out the
name of that movie. Somebody said, were the worlds Now?
That was a terrifying encounter because that was over the radio.
I don't remember the year of that, but they were
reading I.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Think I think it was nineteen thirty eight. And the
thing about it is they never said that it was
a drama. They never said it was programming. Orson Wells
was on there and acted like it was the real thing,
and that was probably one of the biggest waves of
fear that ever came over the United States, because all
we had was the radio, and all he was doing

(16:47):
was talking about all this stuff happening, and nobody knew
it was any different. And I'm glad, I'm glad you
agree with me that it might be advanced warning and
some programming, because if you look at this, the thing
about Mickey seventeen, many people haven't seen it, but this
star is probably one of the biggest movie stars in

(17:09):
the world right now, James Pattinson, who started in Twilight.
He's a billion dollar star starring in this crazy little
two hour Super Secret Soldier program. And it's like, well,
we've introduced this to everybody. We've got a big star
in it. People are watching it, so now we can

(17:29):
start talking about it. And that's I guess the agenda.
It's not the alien agenda. I guess it's really the
disclosure agenda. Do you agree with that, even with ghosts
and UFOs and everything. It's the disclosure agenda.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh yeah, Well, there's too many people who are remembering
and recalling things that have happened to them. And I
do speak at a lot of disclosure events now, okay,
and a lot of times I'm the only bigfoot person there. Okay,
I'm not a big foot, but a field researcher, Okay,
a crypti field researcher. And so it's really it's actually

(18:05):
kind of cool, okay. And because I get to meet
so many people who have had these pretty incredible experiences.
I mean, some people claim that they have been off
planet living for twenty years and then they came back.
They call it the twenty in back things like that, so,
you know, and grow into adulthood. There they're kidnapped, his
children taking off planet, lived their lives for twenty years

(18:27):
off planet, and then they're put back into their child
body with memories of being an adult off planet somewhere.
So it's it's pretty interesting. It's pretty wild. I do listen,
I believe I was hanging out with some of these
people are a good friends of mine, okay, and and
I do believe them, just like our friend James r
and your friends with James as well.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Real good friends. And James has taught me a lot
about the disclosure movement and about the topics and everything.
So it's been really good to have a great teacher,
you know. And I've taught him about a number of
things about you know, a lot of UFO things, the
core UFO things that I'm interested in, which is from
Roswell on up to about two thousand, and I've had

(19:09):
John LeMay, the great paranormal author who lives in Roswell.
He is, in fact, he's dedicated two of his books
to me, the one the nineteen ninth, the nineteen hundred
to nineteen nineteen book that talks about UFOs over the Titanic.
And I'm very flattered that he dedicated that book to me.
It's it's wonderful and in fact, just you know, to

(19:34):
thank him for that. Georgia UFO Sightings is dedicated to
him and all his hard work, as he's a great
researcher and he's out there in the desert. I can't
wait to go out there. We're gonna go, We're gonna
go find, We're gonna go find some crazy stuff out
there in the Desert because he says, I've been there
and I know where it is, and you know, there's

(19:54):
so much stuff that's coming out now about the Grand
Canyon and these interesting places, and I'm beginning to have
friends that have tried to go there and have had experiences,
and so I think it kind of I think the
disclosure thing kind of crosses over into a lot of fields.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh yeah, it absolutely does. And and hey, I mean
I've had people that came out on my show that
were part of like the let's say, the dog man community,
and they're talking about how dog men have been seen
in UFOs and coming out of UFOs and bigfoots as well.
And that's something that I have first hand experience with
with the bigfoot field researcher. I've not seen bigfoots in

(20:32):
dog men coming out of UFOs. However, I have on
numerous occasions been out in the field, especially late at
night and or even at dusk. Okay, at dusk. A
lot of weird stuff happens at dusk, right when the
right when the sun's going down, UFOs and orbs and
things like that showing up in the environment when we're

(20:53):
having bigfoot activity out there. So it goes hand in hand.
I don't know what exactly the connection, but there's a connection. John.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Just remember that's when the vampires come out too.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yes, I know, I know. Matt. Matt delf came on
the show about two weeks ago and we talked about vampires.
We're aware of the where vampires. I think Matt might
be a vampire. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Matt's a great guy. In fact, he and I have
a trip planned to lost to New Orleans to go
hunt for vampires. We know where we're going to go,
and we know we've got an idea of what we're
going to see, so we I tell you what, when
we do, Why don't he and I come here and
report our findings first?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yes, okay, that'd be great as soon as and he's
got to bring that video of the orbs and the
aliens too, Okay with him. He's got to show that
for sure he does. You know, there's a lot of
comments in the chap right now about President Eisenhower and
and Laura. I know his great granddaughter. Laura is a
friend of mine. She has stood by that. I've seen

(21:59):
some interviews she's done, and uh, I believe what was
that Susan that just said this, that that Laura said
that her great grandfather did not make that deal with
the aliens and it was m J twelve behind his back.
And I've heard that too. I've heard that too. But uh,
but maybe he was a scapegoat to.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
It, okaystration or maybe he had no choice exactly. There
are there are times when a major politician will do
something when they have no choice. They just have to.
They're they're just going to have to do it or
it might be a bad end to them.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
M hm. Yes, we have seen throughout the years, okay
that sometimes presidents can just be puppets, okay, for something bigger,
who knows, but or frontman what do you wanna call it?
Frontman straw men? I don't know, term you know, yeah, yes,
for something deeper as in the deep state, things things

(23:01):
like that. Okay, But nonetheless, there was an uptick in
alien contact and alien abductions after that happened. Whatever kind
of agreement was made, I don't know. I do know
that I did do some remote viewing on the UFOs
over the White House in nineteen fifty two, John Well,

(23:22):
just to do a recap of what that is because
there's probably people who are not very familiar with that
it's called well, I just called it the UFOs over
the White House. I think I might have a picture.
This is just a representation of what it looked like
there were in nineteen July nineteenth, nineteen fifty two. That
was what we just had that anniversary. Last week, an

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air traffic controller at Washington National Airport spotted seven slow
moving objects on his radar screen, far from any known
civilian military flight pass. He jokes with a supervisor about
a fleet of flying saucers. Simultaneously, two other air traffic
controllers at National spotted a strange bright light hub in
the distance that suddenly flew away at lightning speed. Radar
operators at nearby Andrews Air Force Base were deflecting the

(24:07):
same unidentified blips, slow and clustered at first, then racing
away at speeds exceeding seven thousand miles an hour. One
guy described it as an orange ball of fire trailing
a tail. A commercial pilot over the Virginia and Washington
DC reported seeing six shreaking bright lights like falling stars,
without the tails. They joke stopped whenever the objects buzz

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past the White House. Capitol Building two F ninety four
interceptor jets were scrambled, but each time they approached the
locations appearing on the radar screens, the mysterious blips disappeared,
and by the dawn of July twentieth they were all gone.
Of course, everybody was demanding answers. The press demanded answers.
Were they just unexplained radar blips? Crafts? What were they?

(24:53):
They outran those jets? Were they part of a nuclear
armed Soviet invasion? Of course this was part of the
Red Scares what they called it, and people thought, well,
maybe it was Russia. It's always Russia, John, It's always Russia.
Or were they extraterrestrial or was it just some sort
of disclosure, Okay, some part of just disclosure. I don't know,

(25:16):
I don't know. I did have some really interesting data
on that as well. And let's see, I can't I've
got my data right here. I don't have a summary
of it, but I've got the data, so let me
look at it. Yeah, I don't know. I think that
we were making connections to this, is it as it
being Probably I think it was probably man made stuff

(25:40):
that was happening, But it could have been ets as well.
I was picking up on let me write down. Let
me tell you some of the first things I wrote down,
Warp Speed coming in Hot Jetson. I've seen the Jetson's
cartoon in this future under wraps be seen, not heard, unveiled,
something that was being unveiled. Okay. I think this was

(26:01):
the very beginning of the golden era of UFOs. John
it was.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
This is when we had the great movies like the
Cape Canaveral Monsters and and all those wonderful movies, and
even Don't Laugh now Planned nine from Outer Space. It
was part of the mix.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah. Oh. It was also around the time where Betty
and Barney Hill I believe had there. I think they
were the first public alien abductions, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
They were terrible, terrible incident for them.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
It was terrifying, and the abductions have never stopped. Okay,
I don't believe they've ever saw I don't hear. What
I hear now is more like secret space program types
of connections. Okay, people that are taken into the secret
space programs. It's it's gotten a little more complex or something.
I guess It's not just little green men coming into

(26:57):
your bedroom and taking you. Now you know it's it's
it's it's evolved, I guess you could say. But even
where I live, John, and where I was yesterday, Actually
I have a picture of me and my dog. Everybody
always wants to see my dog. That's Freya, y'all. Okay,
that's my dog. We were down at an area we
call the Troop Herd Corridor, Okay, And that's the part

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of the sunset as we were leaving. It's a very dense, thick,
thickly wooded area where we go. And we have a
lot of et alien abductions. Okay, there is an author
let me talk about this real quick. There's an author
named John C. Thompson who he was a UFO investigator

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and he's the one that coined this area. Now, that
is actually Troop or Herd County right there, and that's
Troup County, that red one right there. So I wanted
to give you a reference as to where this is. Okay,
and so this is actually Troop You see Herd County
above it north of there, and a Meriweather County, Coweda county,
and this is kind of a representation of the counties

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in Georgia that make this up, and it also bleeds
into Alabama as well. But we call this the Troop
Heard Corridor, and it's an area of about seventy miles.
It goes through our hundred note excuse me, one hundred
and twenty miles by seventy miles, and it goes through
ups and Talbot where the Georgia werewolf is buried in

(28:24):
Talbot County. Isabella Bert is buried there, Meriwether Harris, Troop
Heard in Alabama counties of Chambers, Randolph, Tallapoosa, and Clay
and Cleburne as well, And we have dating back I'm
going to say to the nineteen fifties at least there
have been multiple UFO sightings by sheriff's deputies out there,

(28:48):
law officials everyday citizens. I mean, I have a whole
thick article right here, pages long of encounters of people
getting abducted by aliens. John abducted by aliens with military involvement.
They recall having military personnel in the room as they're
being either abducted or having an examination done. But there's

(29:14):
military standing beside the ets out there. And this all
occurred at the Troop Heard corridor mass alien abductions. What
do you think about that, John, I.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Don't want to know. It sounds it sounds pretty terrible.
I know alien alien abductions do happen. Skeptics say they don't,
Well they do. I know some people that have been abducted,
and it's just it's just terrifying. I may have been abducted.
I think I'll go into that one day with you,

(29:49):
Jessica on a show. I've got an older book about
some of my experiences, and it was it was pretty terrifying.
It happened in Winston Salem, North Carolina, so you know,
and it's hard sometimes to remember if you're not allowed
to remember, like the Secret Soldiers. But they end up

(30:09):
getting some of their memory back, and once you get
some of it back, you get some of it leads
to more memories and they start getting Everything's like James
Rink has told me, you know, you get one memory,
then you get several memories, then it just explodes. So
that's the reality. And I'll just say, I don't know.

(30:30):
It sounds scary to me, but maybe I'll have more
memories one day, who knows. I mean a lot of
people have been subject to this treatment, I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Will against their will. That's the worst part for me,
I think is that we did not sign up for it. Well,
some of us, we don't think. Most of us don't
believe we signed up for this, okay, And it's a
violation and it's not fair and it's scary.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, as Joan Crawford said in the movie Mommy Dearest,
life it's not fair.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
No grit, no wire hangers.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yes, life's not fair. And that's just the way it
is not fair anywhere. But that's okay. We just live
and learn and try to be smarter about what we do.
And uh, I sleep with a knife under my bed
and I'm not afraid to tell anybody that it's a
big butcher knife, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Man. Yep, Hey, there was a fella out out west,
out in the southwest somewhere and he actually did chop
up an alien with his katana sword or something. Do
you remember that story?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, he claims that he had attacked one one was
in his house and he cut it up with his sword. Yeah,
I don't know. I have to look into that one.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
And I've got another topic I thought about. I'm going
to talk to you about after the show. I think
I would like for us to do a show on
it if you would, if you would like the topic.
So we'll talk about that later. You know, it's just
enjoyable being on here. It just reminds me of all
these good, interesting things that I like to research, because
you know, as a guy with a doctorate in sixty

(32:08):
four publications, research has been part of my life for
a long time and I love it. In fact, I'll
just be honest with you today, I got asked by
a friend to help write a research paper. It's in
the UFO field, and I'm really excited that this gentleman
called me up and asked me to. So, I mean,

(32:28):
you know, it's just something that's it's a hobby, but
it's a great hobby, and it keeps your mind active
and it keeps you really into everything. I'm just still
fascinated about Mickey seventeen out. There's something about that movie.
And I'll talk about Jay I'll be I'll talk about
that with James on Friday and Saturday that I'm gonna
be there. He's gonna be doing an intern I'm gonna

(32:49):
I will actually I'm gonna be doing an interview for
his show, and it's gonna be about the conference and everything,
and so we're gon we're gonna have it's gonna be
a blast till two o'clock in the morning. I'll tell
you that. Oh yes, so yeah. I mean, in fact,
if you don't mind, I would like to hear some

(33:10):
more stories or anything that you've got about presidents and aliens,
because I've got kind of an interesting story here that
I did some research on. And so ladies, first, okay.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Well, I just wanted to make one statement that was
about Ronald Reagan. I remember, I believe it's on my
good friend Dave Scott show at Space Out Radio in
his intro. I don't know if he's still got this
quote on there, but President Reagan, back when he was president,
he gave an address, oh gosh, I can't remember what

(33:45):
he was addressing. It was given an address, but he
actually said something about you know, and I'm only paraphrasing here,
but he was saying, like the one thing that could
bring the world together would be like an alien invasion, right,
and so he was kind of setting that up. Now
he had had some I believe that Ronald Reagan actually
had had contact with UFOs. He had seen UFOs. Let's see,

(34:07):
is this a picture here?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, Ronald Reagan the follow it when he was a pilot.
They saw a UFO, they did, and it's fairly well documented.
I've got the story here. It's going to be in
the book. I'm gonna have to work real hard to
get that done by Monday so I can get to
the printers. Yes, he saw one. And it was an

(34:30):
interesting comment that I read that said every president since
well since after after Lyndon Johnson has said I am
going to investigate this UFO thing. And the number that
have investigated this and come up with answers is zero.

(34:52):
Because I think once they get in the White House
they find out there's a reason not to disclose UFOs.
It's what I think.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yes, can you imagine if Abraham Lincoln met the alien
from those movies? I just think that's fantastic. I love
that art. Yeah, you know, I think that they get
into the office there, they're briefed on what's really going on,
and then they come out to the public and they're like, oh,
they never told me. It's above my pay grade or something.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
It's almost like it just all fizzles out. You know,
these these presidents go into office, they actually run on
their platform of we're going to have full disclosure of
UFOs and aliens, and then they get into office and
then it's crickets, crickets. There's always some excuse, right, there's
some excuse. Oh you know, there's nothing there. They haven't

(35:47):
let me see the file. Bull crap.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I don't know that they find out that they can't
talk about it. I think the best comment about UFOs
and aliens was made by George Bush, the younger George Bush.
May I take two minutes and relay this story.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Please do? He always he's always comedic relief if you
ask me, Okay, any worry about him? It's usually kind
of funny.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, I like George Bush. He was I think, kind
of a cool dude. So what happened is he was
on the Jay Leno show a long time ago, he
was no longer president, and he said, you know, I
believe it in answering people's questions. And he said he
looked at Jay said Jay, can we turn up the
house lights and I'll take questions from some people for
a few minutes. And Jay said, oh sure, mister president.

(36:38):
That would be wonderful. So they turned the house lights
on and Bush called on this bright young lady. She
looked to me about twenty twenty one, who raised her
hand and she stood up and she said, thank you,
mister President. What I wanted to know is are there aliens?
Are there UFOs? And please tell me about them? And

(37:02):
as usual, he made a mistake and he wanted to
lie and say there were no UFOs. He would have said, well, ma'am,
there are no UFOs. But do you know what he said?
He said, I can't tell, which is an absolute admission

(37:25):
that there are UFOs. I can't tell. If you asked
your son Ben, did you do something and he and
if he'd say no, But if he said well, I
can't tell you, you would know that he did it. Right.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, My son is brutally honest about stuff, though, so
he would always tell me the truth no matter what.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
But in theory, if he said it, well, I can't tell,
that would be just the same as saying yes, wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
It Well, I can't tell you. Yes. It's all about
what you what is not said a lot of times
now I also learned to point out that many people
claim that George and I even had a People were
telling me about this at the disclosure conference I was
at this past week down in Florida that George Bush
Senior was a werewolf. He was a shape shifter.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Well, yeah, I mean he was president, he was head
of the CIA. That man was dangerous and maybe in
a good way for us politically and whatever other ways. No,
he was. It was great to have him as president.
It was about like you know about like having some
other good presidents. He was a hard liner. But yeah, George,

(38:36):
George was George Herbert Walker Bush. No, that was I
can't remember which one is which with the senior George
Bush was was a good president, and he kept the
CIA in control and he kept he kept MK Ultra
running and everything.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
That's not a good thing. That's not a good thing.
I think there's the majority of the audience is not
a fan of him, by the way.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I know, I know, I know, I just said that
you talked, you talked about comic relief. Yes, I was.
I was a combination of Paul Lynde and Rodney Dangerfield
right there.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Oh my god, Hey, you fool me once. Shame on
you follow me twice. I don't know, just don't fool
me again, right, That's what I said. I don't know,
just don't fool me again. Those guys, I tell you what,
I tell you what Well, I mean I think that
it was. Yeah, there's there's a lot of bad things
that George Senior did actually, and and and that that

(39:36):
actually goes ties back to the secret space program and
the MK Ultra like you said, and the black mailing
programs they had going on and stuff like that. So
but nonetheless, you know, we we it's all history, y'all, okay,
And uh, and so that's what we're looking into today,
is or the the UFO programs, the secret space programs,
alien abductions and things like that. I mean, of course,

(39:59):
we we have I have. I feel like this channel
is such an umbrella. It's like we we cover so
many things. You know, it's hard to stay focused on
one thing because we've already covered all all these topics.
And I love making these connections, John, and and that's
what we do best, right, we connect the dots with everything.

(40:20):
But uh, but nonetheless, there have been many cover ups,
of course, with when it comes to all of these
UFOs and uh, let's see. So Jimmy Carter. I know
you had sent me an article yesterday. I believe about
Jimmy Carter and the UFOs. Okay here in Georgia, And
that was he he actually saw UFO in Statesboro. Now
I went to college in Statesboro in Middle Georgia. And uh,

(40:43):
well we'll get into that, uh in just a second,
because I wanted to cover the Ronald Reagan case right here.
So it says. Let's see, Reagan had encountered a UFO
flying a Sesna citation near Bakersfield, California, in nineteen seventy four.
His pilot that night was Bill Patner, later recounted noticing

(41:06):
a strange object several hundred yards behind their plane. It
was fairly steady light until it began to accelerate. Then
it appeared to elongate. Then the light took off. It
went up to forty five degree angle and at a
high rate of speed. Everyone on the plane was surprised.
He said, the UFO went from a normal crew speed
to a fantastic speed instantly. If you give an airplane power,

(41:27):
it will accelerate, but not like a hot rod. And
that's what that was. And Reagan said it went straight
up into the heavens. Okay, so that that is what
Ronald Reagan saw. Of course, before him, Jimmy Carter had
had a very pretty famous sighting as well, right, John,
Now you're expert on the Jimmy Carter one. If you

(41:49):
want to talk about that, I said, do you hear
about that one than I do?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah, yeah, because I've gotten a salary from my book
right here. But it happened in Leary, Georgia, which was
one hundred and seventy five miles from Panama City. No, yeah,
from Panama City.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
ECB Panama City Beach, right, and it's down there in
the south, John, that's what we call it.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, I used to go there a lot when I
was kid.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I thought that was Myrtle Beach, the Redneck Riviera. But
that's okay, it's all of it, that's right, it is.
But anyway, Jimmy Carter and ten of his friends were
standing outside of a restaurant waiting for their Lions Club
meeting to start, and they basically saw UFO at thirty degrees.

(42:39):
It came close, it changed color, it went back, came
closer again, and then it disappeared. It went it went
off at lightning speed, and that's about what happened. And
he waited. That was in nineteen sixty nine, and he
waited till nineteen seventy three till he was asked by
one of the UFO agencies would he please disclose information

(43:05):
about the sighting, which he did. Now I've got an
interesting thing that I found, of course, this morning. There's
a there's a rag called Politico, a rag meaning it's
nothing but opinion. It doesn't have any news. A lot
of people have heard of Politico. It's just something another

(43:27):
way to collect advertising money for the owners. And so
what Politico says, They got some fella and his name is, well,
I'll find it here. Ah, here it is. His name
is Garrett Graf. He's a journalist and he's famous for
having writing written a book about Watergate. Okay, So he

(43:53):
did an article about this sighting by President President Carter
and he says, there was a man who worked for
the Air Force named Jerry Justice in the mid sixties.
And he looked at that and he said, oh, my goodness,

(44:14):
I know what that was. The Air Force was sending
up weather balloons and they were putting out burium to
study the winds. Okay, and so what Jimmy Carter saw
was a barium cloud.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I read that.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Well he was in Statesborough going into it. I think
it was a Lions Club meeting.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Well, no, you know it was. It was Learry, Georgia,
which was way down south south was actually southwest.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
What I read it was in Statesboro.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Okay, yeah, that's that's in the niche this is in
the in West Georgia. But anyway, the point is he
Jimmy Carter said there were no Air Force bases near him. Well,
there was this one Egglin Air Force Base and it's
one hundred and seventy five miles away. And this morning
I asked a friend of mine in the Air Force.
I said, if a weather balloon went up one hundred

(45:11):
and seventy five miles from you, would it be possible
for you to see it, to see any emanations, any
gases that it sent out. He said, one hundred and
seventy five miles. Absolutely not. Now, the fella, the fella
that was in the Air Force that was contacted for
this article, Kan talked about this in twenty sixteen. He

(45:35):
would have been about eighty five years old. Uh huh,
So you're talking to an eighty five year old you
don't know what shape he's in. Is in good shape,
bad shape? You know, they're thirty year olds that are
in good shape and bad shape. You don't want to
interview the ones that are in bad shape because they're
probably not gonna do right. But anyway, so you got
some guy, you don't know what shape he's in. He

(45:57):
talks about rummaging through files in his house. Now, I
don't know that they can have files of current programs
in their houses, especially if they're retired. Now, you know,
my friend said, well, it just kind of depends on
if that program was really discontinued or not as to
whether or not they could have those files. I said, well,

(46:18):
you know, we need to find out. I mean, somebody
needs to investigate that, because that just the whole thing
sounds a little fishy to me. One hundred and seventy
five miles in the weather balloon, it's emanating bury them.
So Jimmy Carter saw bury them coming in and out.
But and the other thing that I think is very
interesting is the report says he they saw it in
the west, in the east in Panama City is in

(46:41):
the southwest of Leary, Georgia. Now come on, and you know, so,
I mean, none of this matters. It's just pure fiction.
It's just a way to sell ads. That's all most
news and all rags, you know, which are totally opinioned.
Their whole purpose is to sell ads because people do

(47:03):
watch and listen. So I mean, that's what I think.
I mean, I just think the whole Carter, the whole
whitewashing of the Carter thing is stupid, just absolutely stupid.
That's just me. That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
It's also called programming for a reason as well, and
that was all put out. It's all the media, newspapers
and TV, radio, everything, And so it's interesting that they
said bury them, because that is actually today, that is
what they've been putting in those This is for entertainment
purposes only. But they say that there's barium and aluminum

(47:34):
in those chim trails that are being sprayed all across
the skies all over the world, all over the United States.
And so today it's just commonplace. We're getting that in
the sky every day. Okay, But back then, back then,
in the nineteen seventies or eighties, you know, whenever that
was Yeah, seventies. That was not common back then, but

(47:56):
today it's just everyday life. Marine, thank you for that
superstick or I pre shape that so much that she
said the truth is out there. Hit the light button, y'all. Yes,
please hit the light button, y'all, And thank you so
much Marine and Gus. But yeah, it's uh, it's really
it's really quite sad. And you know, I had a
gentleman on my show a while back named Raymond Samansky.

(48:17):
Ray he is a head scientist at Wright Patterson Air
Force Base out there, and he's written books called at
He said swamp gas my ass that was one of
his books. And uh so he's he's a fun guy
to have on the show, and I really enjoyed having
him as a guest. But but he's you know, there's

(48:38):
a lot of things that were allegedly taken to write
Patterson Air Force Base, like maybe the Roswell crash, I
don't know, the Candlehart Giant, maybe things like that. Lot.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Now I'm gonna be unlike George Bush, and I'm gonna
say no that the Roswell stuff was not taken the
right Patterson. Now, if I tell where, I know where,
I know what it was taken, I will be gone.
And I found that out. I found that out the
hard way. I can't tell it, but that we weren't
taking the right Patterson.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Where you can't tell me where they're taking.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You can't or Jessica, I will disappear.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oh no, well, I was followed.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I was following. I was followed for two years when
I was told what happened, and that let me know
to keep my mouth shut period. Oh no, it's right.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
By the way, if I don't call you tomorrow, you'll
know they came and got me.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Oh my gosh, I've had a proverbial knock at my
doors on it say, okay, uh, we just joined joined
the club. That's it's actually one of the dangers, I
guess of if you want to call it a danger
of doing, you know, talking about the stuff we talk about,
doing the research we do. Cosmic Joe says Jimmy Carter
gave snickers to the grace. I wonder if they got
if the caromel got caught in their mouth like it

(50:03):
does it gets in the roof of your mouth. Could
they chew the peanuts? I don't know. Someone or somebody
in the chat had said that he gave Jimmy Carter
gave the alien introduce him to peanuts. Now, yes, he
is from the area Plains, Georgia, I believe is where
Jimmy Carter's from. That is like capital of the world.
So we have peanuts and watermelons down there.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
And what I can tell you is a friend of mine,
his father knew Jimmy Carter and he said Jimmy Carter
was a very bad farmer.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Oh man, well, he was very nice. Actually I met
his wife, Roslyn, and we used to do a lot
of when I worked in my government position. We did
a lot of events at the Carter Center in downtown Atlanta,
and we honored her as Georgia's Woman of the Year
one year with my organization. And so they were actually
really nice people, very nice people.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Oh yeah, absolutely. But I heard Jimmy was just not
a very good peanut.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Farmer, probably not a great farmer. He yeah, he did
other things, but it was actually pretty ridiculed from what
I understand about the whole UFO thing, right, and and
wanting to even even wanting to disclose that to the
public about what happened, you know, this this was did this?
Did this predate. This was not predating the word because

(51:20):
he came after JFK. Okay, so that's when the term
conspiracy theorists started getting put out there into the public right,
and so he was that.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
It was mentioned that it was first mentioned in the
Warren Commission report about JFK. That's that's the absolute birth
of that of that phrase.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Hm hmm.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
So, uh well, you know I've even heard that part. Now,
this is all conspiracy, and it's from you know, things
that I've watched on Netflix and stuff. There was a
conspiracy that that's partly why. And I know that there's
a lot of things to do with the banks and stuff,
but why JFK was assassed needed had something to do
with the aliens and UFO disclosure too, and Marilyn Monroe

(52:06):
as well. Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I think it was about everything. I think jf CARE
was in more trouble than we could ever imagine.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah, probably so.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Well organized crime jed or Hoover, which is another word
for organized crime. I mean, my goodness, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
Well that's the whole other show and a whole other
rabbit hole to go down, I think. But uh, but
I but I find it I find it's all very interesting.
And uh, and and how the presidents they get in
they stand on the platform of full disclosure or at
least parsonal disclosure when it comes to things like UFOs
and aliens. And then and then we get these you
know people they get into office, there's crickets, and then

(52:49):
we get breadcrumbs put out there by I'm gonna say,
plants and stuff. Uh. People who they choose are chosen
to go out to go and and and here. And
I've heard this from the inside. You know. I have
people that contact me and send me pictures and leak
information and stuff to me, and I do incorporate it
into my show sometimes, you know, and you know, just

(53:12):
random people that I have become friends with, I guess
you could say, and stuff like that from online. Their
information is pretty legit. But I from one understand there
are people who do leak information out on purpose to people.
I mean, I guess even people like myself.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Sometimes they're paid, yessica, there are people paid to do that. Yeah,
they're paid their operatives.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yes, that's right. Oh yeah. And there's also people that
are paid to come and destroy it all and destroy
the reputations of people who are putting it out there.
It's almost like a constant war. There's a war going on.
It's the information war. Do I sound like Alex Jones?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
I was getting ready to say this sounds like Alex Jones,
which who I really respect, and Joe Rogan, who I
really respect. Yeah. I mean, these guys are doing a
great job. And I think the pieces you know, you know,
people know not to take them seriously. What I'm saying
is the people in charge know not to take them

(54:13):
seriously because too many people like them and it's so
much fun and they do keep us engaged. But I
think people like you and I do research and we're
talking about important issues. And I've got a real important
issue to talk to you about later today or at
least next weekend when we get there. You know, there

(54:34):
are a lot of important issues we need to talk
about and bring up and give let people have a
chance to think about and know about. And that's one
thing that you do, Jessica, is you present a lot
of good stories which I think are credible, and I
think you get an a plus for credibility. I don't
have a sticker I can give you today. I can't

(54:56):
do that right here. But I can give you an
A plus on credibility. This stuff's good. That's why I
like to come on here and you and you and
you put up with me and my bad jokes.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I do it well it sause I have fun hanging
out with you, okay, And You've always got great information.
You've you've done. I mean, you have firsthand experience with
a lot of this, and that's what I'm always looking for,
is real life experience with this stuff, not just not
just book smarts, but you know, having the experience with
these things as well.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
So when I've got a bunch of books over there
I bought from I buy from thrift books. They're good
and cheap, and i got a whole bunch of books
that I've got to read after the conference to get
ready for our next conference, which will be September twenty
seventh in Mooresville, North Carolina, the National Guard Armory. It's
kind of like the Charlotte Our Charlotte Comic Con and

(55:48):
the UFO Comic Con. It'll be a lot of fun,
and I believe Jessica's going to try to be with us,
and James Rink will be there and the whole the
whole cast of characters. It'll it'll be fun, and we'll
have a lot of people there, like hopefully we're going
to have in a week and a half in mount Airy, Georgia.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
It's gonna be a good time. I actually have a
summary of what Jimmy Carter experience if you want me
to read this.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
I've loved for Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Jimmy Carter spotted a UFO while waiting for a Lions
Club event on January sixth, nineteen sixty nine. So this
is in sixty nine. The Lions Club was one of
the most important networks in Carter's life. And let's see,
I guess that he had risen in ranks when he
was governor of Georgia for quite a while, y'all, before
he became president, of course. And it was around seven

(56:38):
to fifteen at night, just after dark, on what weather
records would describe as a clear, cold night, and he
was standing outside a little one story restaurant in Leary, Georgia.
You're right, I've read that it was Statesboro, but it's Leary, Okay,
a town less than one thousand with a less than
a thousand residents with a group of about a dozen
other men waiting for their meeting to start at seven

(57:00):
point thirty when a bright approaching light attracted their attention.
One of his colleagues pointed out to the horizon look
over in the west, he said, and the men watched
a bright light appear to come towards them and then
move rapidly away. It was about thirty degrees above the
horizon and looked about as large as the moon. It
got smaller and changed to a reddish color, and then
it got larger again, Carter recalled. At various times the

(57:23):
luminous object appeared more blue, other times more red, and
he estimated the object was about three hundred to one
thousand yards away, set against the starfield night sky, and
the men watched it for about ten to twelve minutes
before it moved away and disappeared for good. Carter had
a tape recorder that night, and, as he explained later,
captured some of his colleagues' memories of the incident. Immediately

(57:46):
four years later, Carter, who was then Governor Georgia and
set to run for a president, documented his UFO sighting
Hayden Hughes the director of the ambitiously named International UFO Bureau,
had heard that Carter had seen something suspicious and sent
him the group's standard questionnaire, kind of like what Muffon
would do today at the state capitol in Atlanta. He

(58:09):
dutifully filled out the details, noting his previous military service
in the US Navy and his training in nuclear physics.
He was no crackpot, and it was technically a UFO,
but he believed not likely to be an alien craft.
He said, it was UFO, but not likely alien is
what he said. Carter speculated that the UFO was probably

(58:30):
an electronic occurrence of some sort, but the governor told
Atlanta Constitution, which is our newspaper in Atlanta. The reporter,
Howell rains that it was obviously there and obviously unidentified,
and so yeah, and that's when in twenty sixteen, that
guy said that it was probably a barium cloud that

(58:52):
Carter saw. You know, of course they year it's debunked,
and that's what the sources say. That's what the people
in charge say. So everybody believe it and go back
to sleep. Okay, go back to sleep everyone.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Except we want right, Jessica, right, we will stay alive
and vigilant on this.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Well, I don't buy. I don't buy the whole narrative
now he said, I find that interesting that he said
in that report. He said it was not alien. It
was just something that was unidentified, is what he thought. Now.
Could he have said that because he was about to
run for president and he didn't want people to call
him a kook?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Maybe? And maybe, And let me see real quickly if
because I've got the copy of the of the form.
I just want to see if if he actually I
don't remember him saying or not saying it was alien.
So let me let me tell you, if you give

(59:50):
me just a second, let me just take a look, okay,
and see what mister Carter said or what he actually
reported on this form. I think sometimes it's good to
read these forms and see exactly what they say. So
come on, oh, there we are, Okay, let me see
if not if not alien is on here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I just think it. I think it's interesting that presidents
presidents have claimed to see UFOs and even wrote a
report about it. And I think that's interesting that they
did mention it was while he was governor, not president
that he made this report. And uh, and so that
would lend some credence to why he said he made
it a point to say I don't believe there was

(01:00:33):
an alien in the spacecraft. It wasn't that it was
something that just was unidentified. And uh, you know that
was that was one of the first times that I
had an up close encounter with the UFO. It was
a bright light, much like what these gentlemen describe seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Uh, Mary Georgia that that comment is not in his report.
It's not no tame close, moved away saying sizes the
moon maybe a little smaller above your ridal. There's nothing
about not alien in his report.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Well that's that's interesting that this is actually in this
article right here that he said that it's not alien.
It says, okay, it's maybe this Okay, Well, it says
the last sentence that I just quoted was actually from
the AJAC, the Atlanta Journal and Constitution. So maybe that's what.
It wasn't in the report. It was in an interview

(01:01:32):
that he did with the a JC reporter. Howell rants
that was the last thing that I read, and so
that was so it wasn't he didn't put that in
the report, but that's what he said to the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
A JC, Right, when when was the AGC article written?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
It doesn't say it is in the nineteen seventies. It
says the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Okay, I'm going to get a copy of that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Okay, I'll send you. I'll send you the article. How
about that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Oh god, that would be greet because because if you
could get that to me today, because I've got to
get this this, this redraft of this particular chapter to
the publisher by Monday to keept copies for next weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
So yeah, I would like to put that in there.
You know. I want to put all the facts that
we know. That's if you want to call me a reporter.
I just want to tell what we know and then
we can then you, you and I and everybody else
can make our own opinions and our own judgments. But
I want to put to all the facts that we know.
And I think that's what news is about, don't you, Jessica.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
And it's about facts. It's not about omissions. Oh, errors
of omission are terrible. So anyway, thank you very much.
You're you're just you're just a great friend and a
great re you know, sometimes research partner to have because
you know, it's hard. It's hard having access to everything
all the time. And I really do hell what you helped,

(01:03:01):
you know, and I appreciate what you do. And now
I've got I have enlisted. I know you're a great
remote viewer. I know a different remote viewer who's helped
me with some spiritual work and she said that she
would like to take a look at this sighting as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Oh great, wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
And maybe I could get you and her on Scary
cast my show and talk about that. She's a really
nice lady named Tracy and she's from Maryland, and she
is spot on, and I mean she is frightened frighteningly
good sometimes and I mean, you know, and just like

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I just she helped me a lot with a matter
about a spirit that was wanting to interact with me,
and come to find out they were and we're we're
still good friends from between here and the afterlife. So
you know, strange things can happen and they're fun, don't Jessica.
I know you have things like that that make your

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life more interesting, don't you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Yes, my life as there's never a dull moment, John,
you know that there's never a dull moment. I don't
even have a moment to myself ever.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Right, and then when the paranormal stuff's not there, you
got to You got Ben.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I've got my son and my dog. Yes, and we
are full throttle all day, every day, every night. So yes,
and Allison, this is an interesting comment. George Washington had
a visitation from a being before he crossed the Delaware. Okay, well,
I wanted to tell you she's right. Okay, tell me
about that because I've never heard this before. But you know, John,

(01:04:40):
you and I, Okay, before we would get into this,
you and I had talked about Project Pegasus a long
time ago. When the first time you probably ever came
on my show, we talked about project Project Pegasus, I say,
government program involving time travel and teleportation, and there are
you know, I know, I showed this silly picture that
I made with my AI Lincoln versus predator or alien. Okay,

(01:05:04):
I love this, Okay, But but Andrew Bossiago has talked
about how they were sending children back in time to
give messages to our presidents and to change time and
change events and all that kind of stuff. I mean,
I don't know. Let's let's hear what George Washington encountered.
Let's hear about this first. Then we'll get into all

(01:05:24):
the because our audience is talking about clones. We're all
over the place today. Okay, let's talk about what what
What did George Washington encounter before he Yes, I'm asking
you now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Okay, what I know is he had a spiritual All
I know is he had a spiritual visitor and camp,
and he doesn't really talk about the at least that much.
I would like to find out what your person in
the chat room has to say because we need we

(01:05:57):
need to look into that because Joshington was a great man,
a really great man. I think.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Let's see let me let me scroll. I don't I
don't see any more comments there, so if anybody knows,
you guys, put it in the comments, because I have
no idea. I've never heard about this. But what if
it could have been an alien? I'm not saying it
was an alien, but it might have been aliens? Okay, so, uh,
but wouldn't that be interesting? And that's why I was
thinking about the whole project Pegasus and uh and the

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you know, the governments of today in the past, you know,
two decades, sending children back three decades or more. I
don't know how many decades, five decades, sending kids back
into time. Uh, why wouldn't they send somebody back to
talk to George Washington? You know what I mean? If
they're sending.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
About that's a great question, Jessica.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Mm hmmm. I mean we we had was it wasn't it?
Andrew Bossiogo talking about how they went back to they
kept sending children back to the theater where Lincoln was assassinated,
and and they kept seeing different timelines, had different people
shooting him, right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
And I'll tell you what Andy told me, and this
let me know that he was always telling the truth.
May I share that with you? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Please?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Andy Boziago said that seventy percent of the time John
Wilkes Booth killed Abraham Lincoln or shot Abraham Lincoln. Twenty
percent of the time it was Mary Todd Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
She was a scorned wife.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
It was infidelity, Yeah, that's right. And then ten percent
of the time it was random's, you know, random other people.
But that's what Andy told me. That comes straight from
his mouth over my phone to my ear. And I'm
looking forward to possibly getting to talk with him again.
I had two three hour conversations with him a long

(01:07:57):
long time ago, and then I never could reach him again.
But he's still alive and kicking as we know, and
I'm hoping that I'll be able to to get another
audience with him, because that would be unbelievable. He's telling
the truth. Project Pegasus was real.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Uh Okay, Beth, I'm not going to say this out loud,
but anybody who's watching can see this. And uh, I
think his way and that that was actually part of
the controversy over all of that was that he was
having an affair and uh with his friend, right, John
details right, But it was his friend, and and so

(01:08:40):
she was scorned over that. She was a little upset
and and so that was you know, and that's that's
what's kind of it's kind of wild, right, because you know,
you're sending time travelers back to go see what's going on.
And I mean even James James has told me, James
Reenk has said, you know, they were part of those
the children. It's usually boys. There were girls too, but
it's usually little boys. They were actually sent back and

(01:09:02):
they were assaulted, let's just say by some of these
prominent figures in history, Okay, And I know that's a
whole other topic and it's not comfortable to talk about.
But James has told me some personal stories about that,
and Andy told me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
One thing that I thought was interesting. One time that
he was sent back, he saw a ghostly image of
himself across the room who was coming back from another time.
And I thought that was really interesting that he could
see something like that. So, I mean, I don't know,

(01:09:41):
it's just I thought it was I thought that was great.
I mean, he has the best imagination or he's telling
the truth. And I believe there's an eighty percent chance
that ay Bosiago's telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yes, yes, this is all allegedly. That's right, Marien, thank you.
It's for entertainment purposes only, y'all, and by that, but yeah,
it's uh you you know. I don't know if James
has talked about that a whole lot on his channel
at Super Soldier Talk, but I've had conversations with him
about that, and as part of part of those programs
were you know, the Montak Project and Project Pegasus, all

(01:10:13):
those are pretty pretty brutal, Okay, pretty brutal. It wasn't
pretty at all. Uh. But but like I was saying before,
it's interesting how we've got these accounts from people who
claim to be part of these programs and they're giving
out they're dishing out the tea, y'all, the hot tea.
And that's why it's interesting to be in a remote viewer.
We go back and we get this data on these

(01:10:34):
blind targets, and it exposes a lot of things that
you know, people try to keep hush hush, I think
about our true history and stuff. And that's why that's
why we do get targeted. Okay, that's why a lot
of people do get targeted because we're exposing the dirty
truths that they don't want us to know about. They
don't the general public's not supposed to know about. Okay,

(01:10:55):
So thank you Bess for that comment. I appreciate it
so I didn't have to say it out loud. But nonetheless, wow, Okay,
what other presidents have had contact with UFOs and he ts? John,
Can you name any other ones? I think I have
one or two more?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Well, and I know that again, just what we said
is that Bill Clinton promised he was going to get
to the bottom of it. You never said another word.
I know that now, I guess that's all. Okay, then
we've done George Bush Junior. We know Bush Senior was
involved in a bunch of stuff. Well, Obama, there's an

(01:11:38):
interview that I've got to look at with Obama, says
Obama tells the truth about UFOs. I'll report to you
on that next weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
Okay, okay, please do well you know I okay, let's
just say current day, current time. We have Space Force. Now, okay,
it is out in the public. You can become a
member of Space Force yourself right now. You can go.
I mean I can't. I think I'm too old. I
think we're probably too old dude now at this point.
But you can sign up to become a member of
Space Force. Okay, it's just like it's just a branch

(01:12:07):
of the military. Now. I have a say, I have
a friend who who is a contracted with the with
the government to do some things. I have met with
her in person before. I believe she works with Space Force,
but she told me that she was. She was called
into a meeting one day and she believes the person
that was in that came into her office was an ET,

(01:12:31):
she said, and she's working in government. Okay, some sort
of like human. She said it was either like a
human hybrid or someone just from another planet. Now that
is actually not a secret one hundred percent that the
government has had meetings with the Venusians, right with valiant Thor.
Are you familiar with valiant Thor, John.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
No, I'm not. I know the name, but I'm not
really familiar with the story.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Okay, well I'm not either. I have not looked into it.
I know there's some people that are experts on it,
so I'm going to be careful about what I say.
But there's just it was almost like I don't know
if there were liaisons from Venus or what. But I
have done some remote viewing on Venus. I know our
Chemra good friend of mine, had given me a blind
target of something about Venus. I don't know if it

(01:13:19):
was so I think it was like a Elon Musk
I believe was talking about He said that there was
some kind of cloning facility or something in the atmosphere
of Venus. I'm pretty sure, and and I had done
some remote viewing on that, and I think Venus has
been I think Elon Musk was talking about colonizing this is.
You can find this in newspapers or you know, online articles.

(01:13:41):
He was working with NASA. They're talking about colonizing Venus
and Mars, of course, but the atmosphere of Venus because
they say that you can't actually colonize or get on
the actual surface of Venus because it's too harsh for
human conditions there. Humans would not survive. They have to
state above in the atmosphere in airships, but they can

(01:14:04):
live there. Okay, But anyways, I don't know. But if
that's the case, you know, they say that like Nikola
Tesla was from Venus, all sorts of all sorts of people.
So yeah, let's see. Oh I see someone's right posting
Brooks as Thor Valiant Thor was trying to give us
healing information. Okay, so there are good ets, as we

(01:14:27):
call them. ET's good ET's trying to help humanity here.
And I don't know overall, John, what do you do
you think this is? All these programs? I mean, I know,
with the alien abduction stuff, I mean that's pretty dark. Okay,
it's pretty dark. I mean I would assume that maybe
this is my opinion on this, maybe there was some

(01:14:47):
sort of agreement that Granada Treaty or whatever that was
signed during Eisenhower's term to exchange alien technology for humans
for experimentation. I don't think that ET has kept their bargain. Okay,
maybe and the project got a little out of control potentially,
and and it persists to this day. That's where a

(01:15:10):
lot of these mutilations come from, with the animals and
even humans. Maybe some of these missing people. I think
the missing people phenomenon out of our national parks have
something to do with UFOs and ETS as well. Okay,
David Politis actually wrote a whole book on that with
cases that involve ET or UFOs and missing persons cases

(01:15:33):
out of the national parks. And who runs our national
parks the US government. Right, of course they know they
know a lot more than they're letting on or announcing
to the public.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
That's true. God got so much stuff I'd like to say,
but I can't. Oh man, just saying no, I can't
do it. Don't don't want to get us in trouble.
We'll leave our cell phones in our cars and go
off and talk privately next Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Okay, Okay, sounds good. Yeah, Well, I mean, I did
you know Barry Littleton had given me those targets of
the and I just aired that show last Thursday of
the missing persons clusters out of the National Parks and uh.
And in that data, before I knew what the target was,
he was asking me like, well, what what's going on?
I said, well, there's people that are being mind wiped,
mine white, kidnapped, mind wiped, taken to an underground facility,

(01:16:31):
experimented on, and then they're being disposed of. Okay, and
and I think there's I want to say, maybe maybe
et involvement and all that I think. I mean, how
they being kidnapped and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Oh they're doing that in Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Oh yeah, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I'll say, kidnapping people and they're doing a lot. There's
lots of stuff in Kentucky. M hm. Fact, I'm going
to be going up there, uh in October. I'll be
sure to call you before I before I go and
when I come back. And if I don't come back,
bring a team.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Okay, I've got a team. I got a team. We'll
be up we'll be up there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I know, I know. I said, you know, bring a team.
I'll tell you exactly where we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Give me the coordinates. I'll be there. I know people
we rolled deep Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's amazing. At least I have
to say. Yeah, I kind of know about this going there,
you know, going to New Orleans, because you know, these
these places are fun. I mean, it's it's a lot
better than going to Myrtle Beach while I live here. Yeah,
but it's it's it's a lot of fun and it
does involve some danger, but we'll see what happens, and

(01:17:48):
maybe one day I'll I don't know, maybe I'll wake
up with some memories that I didn't remember, or maybe
I've got them and they're just suppressed. But anyway, it's
it's great. It's great to think about this stuff. And
we are probably the closest thing to news on the air.
I mean, along with Joe Rogan and these other guys,

(01:18:09):
we are the real news. We're not paid to suppress
it like Fox, NBC, CNN all those cats. You know,
So I think we're the real news. Does that make sense, Jessica.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
The real news, I get I guess so. I guess.
So we are the disclosure is what I always like
to say. But you know, I'm just putting it out there.
I'm just thinking out loud. It's all I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But of course this is
for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Of course we're just entertaining. Are you not entertained?

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
You better be entertained with all this great stuff that
we've worked hard to learn.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
You got yes, yes, okay, Broke says. Venusian Help Magic
is one of Thor's books with Michael Barton, Very Cool
and Max Life, Love and Learning. Let's see Valiant Thor
had ten percent denser tissue and fifty percent more strength
and was amazingly helpful at the Pentagon from nineteen fifty
seven to nineteen fifty nine. There's pictures of Valiant the

(01:19:09):
were out there and his and his friends. They look
like humans. They just look like look like humans. I
think they were blind headed humans. I think, uh, he
has a good looking fella. But of course all those
Venusians are supposed to be good looking. I guess. So
what was that book that came out back in the
nineteen two thousands or nineteen nineties. It was like men

(01:19:30):
are for Mars, women are from Venus or something like that.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
That. Yeah, yeah, that was one of these self help
psychology books. It is, it is, And it concluded that
everyone's bad. I love that, and everyone's really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
So whatever we all have, we all have our traumas
we all need to work through and things like that.
And yes, some people, some people would not mind having
a spaceship coming down and beaming them up and taking
them away from this planet. Get me out of here, right,
I hears out a lot for people, tell them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
To be careful for for be careful for what they
wish or they may receive it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
That's right, be very careful what you wish for. I
mean I I have had at times. Maybe that's why
I do so well out in the fields. Like I
don't care if a ship does come down and get me,
take me away, calban, take me away from this crazy planet.
And and so yeah, no fear. When I say no fear,
I mean like there's no fear. It's like whatever happens happened,

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okay when it comes to my world, but nonetheless okay.
So you had messioned Obama earlier, and I think he
was another one that said that he wanted to to expose,
you know, talk about the UFOs and things like that,
and he didn't. That was a nothing burger. Bill Clinton,
of all people, I believe he actually have some notes

(01:20:56):
here somewhere. He had talked about disclosing UFOs before he
into office. What happened with that, John, he didn't do it. No,
wet't see Yep, we talked about Reagan. All right, Well,
all in all, I'm just gonna wrap it all up

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and say that was just all. It's all been a
big nothing burger. Throughout the years the presidents have they
seem to get their foot in the door and get
elected on platforms saying they're going to expose the UFOs,
the aliens, the secret space program. The person that's come
closest maybe hasn't given us a whole lot, but gave
a space force would be President Trump. Okay. But other

(01:21:39):
than that, like I said, my friend, I have a nice,
good friend who claims that she believes that a person
that came into her office was a hybrid alien working
in the government. Okay, So do you think we're gonna
have disclosure? The government will finally give it disclosure. I
believe I saw a video that someone from the conference

(01:22:01):
I was at this week they said by next year,
humanity will have full alien disclosure, is what they were saying.
Do you believe that, John, You think that'll ever happen?

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Never? No, never, never, never, Because you can't have some
nice little lady in a nice little brick house out
in the country all worried that there really are aliens
and that they're gonna come down and get her. You
can't have that. That would be mass panic. And that's

(01:22:34):
what I think that they can't possibly do that. And
all these conferences, you know, World Refo conference is for
entertainment purposes only. There's a certain segment of people that
like to talk about this. We'll talk about it, will smile,
and we'll have fun. We are not going to accuse
anybody of anything. That's not our job. We're there to

(01:22:58):
have fun, meet people, make friends, you know, all kinds
of stuff. And I just don't think they can do it.
I don't say, Oh, go ahead, John Well, I was
going to say that. Austin Waldrop, who's the South Carolina
director of Citizens for Disclosure Disclosure, he agrees with me

(01:23:21):
one hundred percent. He said they can't do that because
that would lead the mass panic. So I mean, you
can't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yeah, it's fact. They don't want to disclose things that
they can't control. Okay, if there's no there's no way
to control it, they're not going to let the public
know that it's it's out there potentially. I mean, I'm
not saying that that's the right thing, Okay, I'm just
saying that's what I think that I think that's the

(01:23:51):
the mindset. Okay. Now, I also wanted to mention before
we go today, of course, and thank you William Nighthawk.
He says, most disclosure is disinformation, and a lot of
it is that's why we have counterintelligence officers and this,
you know, three letter agencies and stuff. They're out there,
and yes they're sprinkled within all these communities online as well. Okay,
I'm just saying a lot of disinformation, a lot of

(01:24:15):
people that are plants, a lot of there's just it's
so alive. You got to use your own gut, go
with your gut, use your own discernment when it comes
to all this information, y'all. Because the top experts might
be experts in counterintelligence and stuff like that. So just
use your own judgment when it comes to this. Okay,
So what I'm going to tell you guys, is I

(01:24:36):
used to go to waffle House, Okay, on Wednesday nights
when my mom would go to mister Sam's house. This
this gentleman and his girl, his partner, Her name was Verlin,
and we used to go on Wednesday nights to a
weekly meet up out in Cobb County, Georgia, right outside
of Atlanta, and they went they had their house and

(01:24:58):
it was like all the people like the s Tarret
communities and stuff would go there and they's just a
at their house and he would have like a different
variety of a speaker every Wednesday night. That's how I
met my bigfoot group, y'all. That's that's how I got
into big footing was at mister Sam's house. But nonetheless,
there was a gentleman that used to frequent those meetings.

(01:25:18):
His name was Don Where Okay, well I didn't know
who Don was. I just knew he was into UFOs
and aliens. And we used to go with my mom.
We'd go to waffle House, and my mom was very
good friends with him and we would sit around, we'd
you know, eat waffles and bacon, egg and cheese, sandwiches
and coffee and whatever until the wee hours of the

(01:25:40):
morning on Wednesday nights after mister Sam's house over there
in Smyrna. And I never knew who Don was till
later on. And this was before I had a podcast,
before I had talked about my research publicly and all that.
It turns out he was the liaison between the US

(01:26:01):
presidents and the ETS. Okay, and he actually worked hand
in hand with an alien and and he is the
one that introduced the presidents to the aliens and stuff. Okay,
So I don't know where Don is today. I think
he lives in Florida. I don't even know if he's
still alive today. I have not talked to him. I
don't know if my mom has been able to get
in touch with him. But however, I know Don, and

(01:26:25):
like I said, I used to go to waffle house
with him at night. And and so if I had
only known him back then, what I know today about
down it's pretty interesting. And my mom said that he
used to always carry he always carried a briefcase around
with him and it was a there was a Time
magazine inside of that briefcase he always carried with him,
and it had an actual alien. She said it was
a female alien on the cover of the Time magazine.

(01:26:47):
He always said that was a real et and so anyway,
so that's that's my personal story. Okay, And if if
Don's watching, please contact me. If donbody knows him, I'd
like to at him on the show one day. Okay,
he might have gone into hiding. I don't know. Maybe
I shouldn't even said his name. But nonetheless, our buddy

(01:27:08):
Don worked directly with the President and with the ETS.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
So Jessica, I got to make one final comment. Okay,
you work to waffle House with your mom and Don Ware.
I used to go to waffle House with Maestro the
Wrestler and the Barbarian.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Man very little da right now. Yeah, my friend Barry
Littleton is a huge wrestling fan and he would he
would love to hear that. Actually, actually, the Big Boss
Man was from Smyrna. He was from Cobb County out there,
and I used to hang out with a Big Boss
Man when I was a kid. He was best of
friends with my uncle and he played g I Joe's

(01:27:49):
with us when we were kids. Okay, so anyways, Tidbeth,
that is information that nobody needed to know. Okay, but
now y'all know, all right, and yes I hung out
with a big boss man occasionally when I was a child,
playing g I Joe's with my cousins. But uh, but yeah,

(01:28:09):
the more you know, right, John, that's right, you could
have been a professional wrestler.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
John, No, I wasn't and I wasn't into that. That
was too that was too rough. That stuff was fun though.
I was an announcer for five years. Oh yeah in Charlotte. Yeah,
and that's the reason I'll tell this story. I may
have told it on your on your channel before, but
I'll tell you the story. So James Rink and I
were in Mooresville and I said, I'm looking for a

(01:28:36):
place to hold a comic con. Lady said, well, once
you go to the National Guard Armory. I said, oh,
where's that and she directed it to me too, and
it was it was very close. So we went there.
We walked in and I almost had a heart attack
because in that National Guard Armory we had an audience
of about four hundred people. And the Italian stallion who

(01:28:59):
ran that wrestling promotion said, John, I want you to
do something. I said, Okay. What he said at the
end of the last match, I want you to get
up in the ring and yell at them. I said,
about yell about what he said, It doesn't matter. Just yell,
and I'm gonna show you how to do something. So
he showed me. I said, okay. So at the end
of the match, the bell rang, it was over, and

(01:29:20):
I got up. I climbed those stairs, got in the
ring in front of four hundred crazy people and I
started yelling at everybody. And the blood Seeker took this
big steel plate and slammed it over my head. And
they picked me up and threw me in a coffin
that was in the ring, no joke, and carried me

(01:29:41):
out to funeral music. And so it was. It was
the most honestly, it was the most fun. You just
don't know. That was my greatest five minutes of fame ever.
So I'm due ten minutes more so. Anyways, So we're
in the National Guard armory and there's this rather stern,
not too happy stat sergeant talking to me and I said,

(01:30:03):
I got to tell you what happened to me here,
and I told her the story and James looked at
me like I've lost my mind. She said, oh my god,
my grandfather used to bring me here and we saw
them do that to you, and we thought you were dead.
She said. I said, ma'am, I'm alive. And I gave
her a hug and she immediately rented me the space

(01:30:27):
for our comic con and it was just and James
looked at me. He said, John, you've done everything. I
said almost. I haven't been up in the UFO. Well,
I don't know. Maybe I have. Maybe I have right
after graduate school, but no, I didn't. You know. That
may be a story and I need to think about it.
But yeah, that was That was my greatest one of
my greatest moments of my life. Four hundred people yelling

(01:30:49):
and screaming, hoping I hadn't died. I was thrown in
a coffin. Jessica, you haven't been thrown in a coffin?
Have you?

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Uh? I I probably have. I don't know. Uh No,
not at a wrestling match, No, not ever?

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Right? Right? Right? Okay, yeah, okay, I to tell that story.
I hope nobody got upset with.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
Oh my gosh, I think it's hilarious and I love
that we should have. You know what you're you're really
good at throwing up throwing events. Why don't we organize
like a w c W of disclosure. We should totally
do that. Why not, We're gonna all dug it out. Listen,
all the communities like to fight, anyways, let's just do
it all in three D and person. Just let everybody
in there in the ring and just fight it out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Jessica, you already have the domain name. I already bought it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Oh really, I think I think the critic to people
would win. I'm just saying, because we're we're pretty tough
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
But we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
We'll just you know, put your dukes up. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Oh man, we're gonna duke it out. I tell you what. No, seriously,
if you I don't know if you follow all this,
but being in the podcasting community, man, these communities like
to fight. I tell you what. I'm just here to
try to have fun, y'all. Okay, let's but but you know,
it would be good to have one of those bills
during be like all right, fatality, you know, like Mortal

(01:32:10):
Kombat out there. I'd pay money to see that, actually
I would, and I might even fight. I think that'd
be fun. So but anyways, Nonetheless, Scott tried to get
into female mud wrestling once it did not work. Scott,
Oh my god, are oh well? I love it. And
I did want to point this out because I really

(01:32:31):
appreciate this comment from Michelle. She says, the Etis have
given a deadline to our government to disclose their presence
here on the planet. It will happen. Disclosure is coming.
I have heard that to Michelle. Thank you for that comment.
I've heard it too. I heard it was next year,
the twenty twenty six actually, which is not very somey

(01:32:53):
what a few months away. So maybe it will happen.
I mean a lot of things that I never thought
i'd here happening today. Uh So, nonetheless, we're disclosing it
and uh and they're real, They're real. There's been a slip, right,
I can appreciate that. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think

(01:33:18):
I think that the audience, actually some of the guys
in the audience right now, I'm probably women too, they're saying,
you know, uh, they're I think it was Joe said,
he's usually late watching my show because he's always watching wrestling.
He said, Okay, I think that. Let's see. Angelique said,
I heard late twenty twenty six too, Okay, twenty twenty six.
All right, so letk we've got a date, y'all, we've

(01:33:40):
got a date. Let's watch what happens. I'm not saying
don't don't just sit around fiddling your fingers and stuff.
You know, we we always hear things and then nothing
ever comes to existence. It never comes to fruition. Okay,
but we're gonna keep on chipping away at it. Okay,
We're still chipping away, and the best thing we can
do is share our stories, share stories with each other,

(01:34:03):
share stuff stories publicly. You know, it took me ten
years to speak publicly about my cryptid research, but now
I'm here, I'm doing it, and so it would help
if everybody else gets out and tells their story as well.
And you guys have a channel here if y'all want
to come on and contact me. I know I'm terrible
about getting back with my emails and stuff. They get
backed up, and I have a lot of people reaching

(01:34:25):
out to me all the time, but I'd love to
hear your stories and definitely put them down the comments here.
I do read the comments y'all, under all the videos
and after the shows, so y'all definitely leave some comments,
tell me your story. And William said, nothing will happen
until it's too late, yes, and by that could mean,

(01:34:46):
you know, the aliens will be showing themselves and stuff too,
and the government is going to have to catch up.
So I guess what that what that statement was like
the aliens that eats are giving until next year basically
to disclose it or else, okay, or they're going to
do it for them right, So let's see, Leah says,

(01:35:08):
disclosure is supposed to happen before twenty twenty eight, end
of the Fifth Dimensional Treaty happens the government's agreed to
breed up to twenty eight and allow a year coal
of the sheet back to two million. But the GFL
broke it. Oh my gosh, Galactic Federation. It took me
a second there, sorry, the Galactic Federation broke it. Oh

(01:35:29):
my gosh. There's a lot going on up there, man,
a lot going on. Thank you Leah for that comment.
I appreciate it. So so anyways, hey, how about this,
if people would like to come and hear about all
this personally in person in the three D and maybe
even do get out, we'll take out. We'll bring our
boxing gloves to the World UFO Conference in Demeris, Georgia

(01:35:51):
at Piedmont University. We may have to rent out their
gymnasium too. There is a gymnasium downstairs in that building.
My friend was playing bast All down there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Well, I guess, I guess, Jessica, I better announce it
right now. The conference has moved to RM Rose.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Oh it has been okay, just.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
The other days. It's it's been moved to RM Rose
because they wanted it, and uh, Demris was kind of busy,
and so I said sure, So yeah, it's it. It's
at RM Rose. Just check the website worldyot FOUK Conference
dot com and it's from ten to six on Saturday,
and yes it's yes. So I just not meaning to
correct you, but I wanted to let you know we

(01:36:31):
have moved, and I think I'm glad. Joe and Andy
are very happy that we're coming.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Oh my gosh. And you can drink moonshine the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Moonshine or bourbon or vodka or whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
What's what's better than that? You guys can go and
drink it up open. I'm not saying open bar. You
have to pay for it, y'all, but you can buy
you can buy jars of moonshine while we're there. Uh,
what's better than UFOs and moonshine? I'm just saying, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
UFOs and bourbon is better than moonshine. It's all I
got to say.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
If you're if you're a drinker, Okay, God, that is
so funny. I love it. Those people are so nice
there and we really did have a good time at
the Georgia Bigfoot Conference at the R. M. Rose Distillery.
And so thank you for allowing me to be a
part of this conference. John, It's gonna be another great
time over there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
You're always welcome. Jessa good so much. It's so much
fun to have you there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Thank you, Thank you so y'all. Come see us on
July the first and the Sacond the first will be
like a meet and greet August and August first, August first,
in August second and uh and all day from ten
to six on Saturday, we'll be there. It's all of
the R. M. Rose Distillery. Okay, I need to I
need to change that on all my my social media

(01:37:47):
posts and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Okay, you'll do.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
That, okay, but that's it. You'all go to World UFO
Conference dot com for more information and to get your tickets.
You'll get some tickets and come see me. It's fun
and there's a lot of listen. There's bigfoot saidings up there.
This is near mount Airy, Georgia. I think it's in
mount Airy actually, and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Is it's in mount Airy, which is next to Cornelia,
and it's about twenty minutes south of Clayton, Georgia on
four forty one.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Yes, oh yeah, well actually we went up that to
that area to go bigfooting and stuff after the Bigfoot
Festival of the Bigfoot conference we had, and I found
some good track lines and all sorts of stuff up there,
lots of bigfoots. One of the largest bigfoots ever videoed
out of Georgia was actually in mount Airy. Okay, it

(01:38:38):
was in Habersham, Habersham. I say Habersham because that's where
my family lives, is up in Habersham. And there's a
video actually of one of the biggest I forgot how
tall it was. It was like ten twelve feet tall
bigfoot because you could see it walking past somebody's camper
trailer in their yard and they had it on video.
I'll try to find that video. Maybe we'll show it
at your conference at the UFO.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
That'd be wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:39:01):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, for sure. Okay, Well, this is the website,
you guys. It's worldfo Conference dot com. Please go there
to get your tickets and John tell the audience about
your Scary Cast and your big footing company whatever you'd
like to promote. Right now to everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
Scary Cast is on iHeartRadio. It's now iHeart dot com
and just search for Scary Cast. And those are our
latest episodes. I'm behind. I've got two episodes to put
up there, and I'm gonna put I just did an
interview with James Rink. I'm gonna put it up there.
I'm also gonna link it to the World UFO Conference website.

(01:39:37):
And so we got a new book coming out Georgia
Bigfoot Sightings. Come to the conference, buy a copy. I
think you'll enjoy it. And so that's about it. Just
more conferences coming up, more fun coming up. And thanks
very much to Jessica Jones for all of her support
and help. We appreciate everything you do. Jessica.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, John, Thank you, and
I appreciate you including me in all your events and
your conferences and stuff. It's always fun, it is so
uh yeah, somebody in the chat, see Duke, was asking
is Matt Delf going to have his vampire in a
bottle at Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
He is. I told him to bring it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
You did, Okay, thank you for the question, See Duke.
They may be showing up there at this conference. I've heard.
Little Birdie told me, See Duke might be at your
conference for this one. So I don't know there there
could be a lot of spirits there because there's gonna
be a lot of spirits and bottles at the distillery. Yes, yeah,

(01:40:37):
Oh my gosh, okay, well that was my that was
my my dad joke. My mom joked there. Okay, And
I love it all right, y'all. Well, thank you so
much to everybody who is here today. And uh, and
thank you to all my mods. My mods are amazing
and I appreciate you guys and Marine and Gus. Thank
you for the supersticker. Much appreciated, y'all. And uh and

(01:40:58):
so yeah, I hope everybody in enjoyed the show today.
I hope you learned a little something. Probably left you
with more questions than answers as always, but just you know,
that's how we roll over here on the Crypted Hunter's channel.
You guys, come back and see me tomorrow night. I'll
be here at eight pm live again with a remote
viewing show just for you guys, and I can't wait
to be back. And then of course on Saturday, I'll

(01:41:20):
be back at ten pm Eastern. And yes, rip to Ozzy.
I saw Ozzy Osbourne died, poor fella yesterday. I think
that was yesterday, So thank you Angelique. And with that,
so yes, rest in peace to Ozzy Osburn out there,
and you guys stay safe out there, y'all, keep your

(01:41:41):
eyes to the skies and report back to us. Let
us know down in the comments today if you guys
have had any kind of UFO sightings recently, especially if
you're in the Georgia area too. We love I love
compiling all the areas that we have, you know, cryptid sightings,
UFOs all that, and it helps with our research. So

(01:42:01):
let me know, y'all, And and I'm sending you guys
all my love and light. I'll see you guys back
here on Saturn, not Saturday, tomorrow Thursday night at eight
pm Eastern. Thank you so much, John, and I can't
wait ascome you at the conference. All right, okay, everybody,
have a great day and uh, gotta find my button
and John, I'll see you next time. So it's it's

(01:43:04):
it's so, it's so, it's it's

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