Appalachian Devil Dogs & Dogman Encounters

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Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, good afternoon, everybody, Happy Monday. It's the Crypted Huntress.
I'm Jessica Jones, and man, do I have a fun
show for us today, A little spooky, a little scary,
a little exciting. And I have my good friend mister
Long Island Bigfa in the studio with me today. We're
going to be talking about the Appalachian Devil dog, black dogs,

(01:21):
and of course dog man encounters. And I came across
a picture of a dog that literally looks almost exactly
like what I saw leaving the Alabama forest about a
month ago, and I almost fell out of my chair, yall,
because I've been trying to figure out what I saw.
It looked like the head of this one of those animals,

(01:43):
those beasts possibly dog men that I saw that were
the size of bears leaving the Hollands area. And we
talked about that on Saturday night. If you guys miss
that an incredible Saturday night show with Mark and Becca Green,
please go back and check that out, y'all. That was
such a wonderful show. Mark and I could have taught

(02:05):
for like five hours Saturday night. We could have, And
so I'm going to remark and Rebecca back on again.
They are out of Alabama and and I have gone
on I've met them at a couple of different campouts,
big footing campouts, and that last one was at the
Talladega Forest and that's where I had that encounter as

(02:26):
I was leaving in my vehicle that night down a isolated,
desolate road in the middle of nowhere, and I made
sure my doors were locked, okay, and had a pep
right there because it was so it was so creepy, y'all.
And so we're gonna I'm gonna show you guys that
picture today of this creepy it's actually a dog, okay,

(02:49):
and I'm gonna show it. We're gonna do some comparisons
to what exactly it looked like. We're gonna maybe compare
it to these appalation devil dogs as well, because you know,
I do live in the Appalachian y'all. Technical and that
was in the Appalachian Mountains. So let's get to it.
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(03:10):
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(03:31):
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Secret Space Program and super Soldier Talk on YouTube will
be there. A good friend of mine and of Long
Island Bigfoots. We're both friends with James. Doctor John Stamy

(03:52):
and Matthew Dove will also be there and some other
people as well. It's always a good time hanging out
with all those folks. We're going to talk a little
little bit today about my Florida conference, I promise you guys. Saturday,
I had been on the road driving all day on
Saturday and uh and I had not had time to
process the whole conference that I was at last week,
and so we're gonna talk about that a little today.

(04:13):
I do have I think I saw marine and the
chat Marine and Gus were there. My favorite furry moderator
was in. They were at the conference, and I have
a few pictures to show, and uh, yeah, it's gonna
be it's gonna be fun. We'll talk about that when
I bring Mike up. Okay, So let's talk about these
devil dogs. Okay, because I don't know. It might have

(04:35):
been what I saw. I don't think they were ghosts
or anything like that. I think that they were probably
dog men. But let's talk about it. There's a demon
dog that haunts a small town of val Cruss, North Carolina,
near Boone. Uh there's a church there that has a
cemetery that's haunted by this hulking black dog. It's the
size of a man with glowing red eyes. There are

(04:57):
some students from a nearby college. I think it's probably
the Appalachian State University. I'm pretty sure because that's in Boone.
I think we played them in some sports or something
back when I was in college. But they they had
an encounter. We're going to talk about that today. A
couple of students had an intense encounter with this devil dog,
and and according to these descriptions, I think they might

(05:20):
have encountered a dog man actually, but the black dog
is a stable, well known stable of Appalachian folklore. Is
a spirit of death, they say, and when somebody sees it,
they are marked for death. Oof that sucks entire bloodlines

(05:41):
become cursed when one encounters it, and you should never
look it directly in the eyes, according to legend. And
it's connected to lightning storms and the crossroads. A'all know
about the crossroads. That's where you go sell your soul
to the devil. And we're forbidd my goodness and work.
So we're going to talk about that today. Also going
to talk about the snarly Yow. Oh my god, what

(06:04):
a name. It's the dog like beast that walks on
two feet like a human. And stories about the snarly
Yow beginning the seventeen hundreds with German immigrants who came
to here, Okay, to the Americas to work in the mines,
by the way, and we've we're always making connection to

(06:24):
mines and bigfoot and crypti, especially gold mines. There's a
lot of gold in them their hills in the Appalachian Mountains,
and so we're going to get into that today as well.
And of course I did have my encounter a couple
of weeks ago, about a month ago, with two hulking
black beasts, furry, hairy black beasts on the side of

(06:46):
the road in the deep woods of Alabama, in the Appalachians.
And so I brought my good friend who is also
an experiencer of dog men in the Appalations, my buddy
Long Island Bigfoot. So you guys please help me. Welcome
to the show, mister Long Island bifoot himself, Mike.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's going on Happy Monday, Happy Monday, Yeah, Monday Monday.
Trying to figure out this new scream Yard update here.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh yeah, there's always updates. It always. It always throws
a wrench in the engine, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I'm not anybody who knows me knows.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean as long as I've been doing like YouTube
and so I am not tech savvy, like yeah, so
anytime they throw in a wrench and it's like, yeah,
it's not beneficial in mine, in my world.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Oh yeah, it's just another thing to have to figure out.
That's all. It's just part of life, it is. Well,
thank you for being here today.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Thank you so much having me.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well you you have had some dog man experiences of
your own. You have been on a dog man accounter
several times over there with our friend kind Off and
Vic by the way, uh vick out my Saturday Night
show on his Facebook pages and stuff, and uh so
I really do appreciate that it does help get the
shows out there, and uh and the information I think

(08:11):
what Mark Green and I and his wife Rebeca. I
think what we talked about Saturday, it was pretty important
actually as far as the safety goes to people in
these national forests and these wm as and Mike we
made some connections with like homicides and things and deaths
that were happening in some of these national parks, maybe
them being you know, reported wrong as a cover up

(08:37):
to cryptid attacks and stuff like that. What do you
think about that? Do you think there could be like
a cover up where people are saying there's like drug
overdosas when it could have been a dog man attack.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, I mean, I mean it's very plausible, very plausible.
I do believe, like in the book I'm never going
to write there there would have been a chapter about
national parks and uh state parks and county parks and
all these things. And what I believe is there are
areas that are known right by our government or whatever,

(09:10):
and they're they're fenced off and kept you know, kept
kept clothes for a reason, right, So they have them
open from dust till dawn, right and uh, I mean
don't whatever dawn till dusk and then people could camp
in a lot of them or whatever, but they have
them in like a confined area for the most part. Now,
when you have these people who venture out like into

(09:33):
these you know areas, it doesn't have to be the
great outdoors. It just has to be somewhere that you're
not supposed to go, right, more trails and things to
that effect. So now, yeah, if you had somebody who
if you have a money making machine like Yellowstone or something,
right like, you don't want Like I remember, there was

(09:56):
there was a even even something.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Natural that they that they allow people to go see.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
It was one of those guysers and uh, something happened
with one of those guys was that people got too
close and got harmed and stuff, and they suppressed that.
Not that that like the outbreak of social media on
it like was getting suppressed like crazy, you know. So
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, I've been part
of the army and stuff, and like it's it's always

(10:24):
been a need to know and basically they always.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Tell you don't need to know shit, you don't need
to know anything.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
So like you know, when you talk about these upper
echelons of like special forces and like like smaller units
to that deal with these things, that stuff doesn't get out,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
So it's very you know, it's very suppressed obviously.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So and if it's if you have like a small
town police officer or something like, that's that's like on
the receiving end of this, and that's how he feeds
his family and stuff. And the FEDS tell you, hey,
say this or you know what I mean, what what's
what's what's one to do? Like, what's one to do?
So I mean, long way around it, there's so many

(11:08):
ways we could go down. But I absolutely believe so yeah,
and uh, you know very well here that there was
a cover up with things like in Montark and that
was just one of the times where they got kind
of caught and things are public, you know what I mean.
And we still have plum Island here just a mile

(11:30):
we have we have two other known ones we have
in my County of suffn County. We have two other
ones that are known, Brookhaven Labs and uh Plum Island
now Montark was people cover up. They were doing experiments
on people and stuff, Plumb Island's animals and uh that's.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
What they say. And then.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Brookhaven Labs is supposed to be well, I don't the
guys upstairs, the aliens and things so that.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
But oh yeah, you know, Plumb Island has made a
resurgence as far as like social media, my trusted news
for my trusted source of news. TikTok had a young
lady there who was putting out videos saying, well, you know,
I used to work at Plumb Island. I believe it
was Plumb Island Research Center, and she was she was

(12:21):
blowing the whistle, and I was like, honey, I think
the whistle's been blown. But thank you for your for
your service for doing that. It's it's wonderful and we
always need more whistleblowers out there. But we've been talking
about that for a long as long as I've known
you at least.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, well, but you know there's a there's a ferry
that goes from from there to uh from Orion Point
to Connecticut and uh, I forget where you land.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think in New London.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
But anyway, there's another little ferry area where they those
employees get on a ferry. They're not allowed to bring
anything with them. Uh, their search before they go there.
Search when they get there, they have to go like
if they go down levels. Every time they go down.
Brian said, somebody went there.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
He knew.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Range, Yes, he knew somebody who went there to pick
something like let's just say it was something easy, right,
and they issued him the screwdriver. He had to turn
it in when he went back. And as he went
down all three levels that you can't see from the
top that you would never know are there.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
How many go down I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
But this guy went down three levels and at every
at every elevator stopped down. At every level down he
had to do a wash like well you know, one
of those full like.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
He had to get naked biohazard wash. I guess, Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know the extent. Yeah,
I think they have him in a specially, they put
you in some kind of suit. Yep, yeah, you know what.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I need one of those for my house when I
have guests. I'm just kidding. Step step in the bacterial
wash for you walk in my house.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It looked like it looked like among us in your house.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Among us you're put on this inflatable suit. Okay, Oh, man,
Ben would love that. Actually, my son would really like that.
I think that'd be funny. I have a hard time
sitting down, but you know, living in bubbles. Okay.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Speaking of speaking of how how'd you guys like the conference?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
It was amazing. It was really good. Actually, I guess
we could talk about that real quick before we get
into the devil dogs, because no, it's amazing. Uh, it
was really great. I do have some pictures. I actually
spoke on Friday at the Full Disclosure Now conference down
in Saint Pete, Florida. I do have some people in
the chat today. What's up y'all? Everybody that was there
at the conference. Uh, it was a great time, and uh,

(14:48):
I was gonna say I sat on Saturday. I was like,
I think I think my audience being proud on me. Okay.
First of all, them had me speaking the morning after
early morning after the big party Thursday night, so so
I didn't think anybody was going to show up, but
we ended up having a lot of people there, so
I was really happy about that. And this is here's

(15:08):
a picture just of me up there. I think that
was right before I started speaking nice and uh, and
I had just wonderful friends there. We've got Mariene in
the chat right now. There's Marine and Gus.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
French Bull.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
He is, asked Gus, he's one of our furry moderators.
And let's see. Here's here's me and Gus right here.
And that's my son in the background. But we had
a great time, and we even had people that have
been on the show that were there as well. This
is Aaron Elizabeth. You guys remember her her Her great
great uncle was Admiral Bird. Okay, somebody down to line

(15:42):
on her family and we did a show on our
Arctica and she is amazing. I had a great time
hanging out with her. And uh we had bigfoot busts. Okay,
I've got one of those behind me on my my
books over here, and lots of cool things. Uh, people
were selling there. That's Aida Ida. Excuse me, I said,

(16:03):
ada Ida, Aida. I love you, Ada. I can't say
your name right today. And this is Trevor. You guys,
I got to meet Trevor. I think it's last apt Grassy.
I'm pretty sure, but Trevor, this is wild. Mike. I
did a show not too long ago on the Pyramids,
What's under the Pyramids, because it was a big buzz

(16:26):
was going around about what's under the Pyramids of Giza,
like the Great Pyramids. Him and his team that actually
released that information. They're the ones that took those measurements
down there and had those sonar him and he was
at the conference. It was wild. Yeah, so I'll be
getting Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get Trevor on the show, y'all.

(16:48):
Of course I had Piper Piper it is a good
friend of mine, and uh, Veronica and Susan were there
and let's see it and they did a great panel. Y'all.
Remember Sean Bond. He's in the blue shirt right there.
He he led a panel on ancient alien artifacts that
was really well, went really great. And of course my
good friend miss Laura Eisenhower was there. We're gonna bring

(17:11):
Laura on the show here pretty soon. I did get
her on this past year, but we're gonna bring her
on this year. I promise y'all. And of course we
have Brian saying there's Brian okay and uh. And also
now I remember Tom Althouse who had the screenplays, wrote
the original screenplays for the Matrix, and he had been

(17:31):
in court for years over all this stuff. And I
know there's another lady named Sophia somebody who claims that
she wrote it, but he's he says no, he he
wrote the Immortals was the original name of it. And
I just love him to death, y'all. These are the
original transcripts right here, screenplays what became the Matrix, and
he claims it was all stolen from him. Okay, and

(17:53):
uh and uh. And I had I got to hold
some crystal skulls Mikey from Strange Road. This is what
I got. Two more pictures, all, and I said, we're
gonna get to the Devil Dogs now. But that's Mikey
from the Strange Road podcast. He's so amazing, y'all. Had
a great time with him. And last but not least,
my new buddy Gino and he is the executive producer
of the wy Files. And there's some big things popping

(18:15):
with that, y'all. That's all I'm gonna say. Okay, So
so it's it was a great conference, Mike, thank you
for asking and and I can't wait. Hopefully I'll be
back next year. And uh but but it was really
great and we had a wonderful crowd there and.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Wife Frials is good.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
They're one of those larger childs that actually sources people properly,
which is, you know, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's really cool.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Oh yeah, and happy birthday, Joe, today's birthday. Okay, so
birth yes, so happy happy birthday. And yeah, we had
a great time and and it was full of disclosure. Okay,
there were a lot more of other people there, y'all,
but but those are I just got a few pictures
because I was so busy the whole time. I was, okay,

(19:00):
very busy. I didn't get a whole lot of pictures,
but those are the ones I did get. So so
thank you guys so much for all your support, for
everybody that was there with us this week, this past week.
It means world to me. Okay, and you guys can
probably still access that by going online and getting the
online video. I guess of it. I guess you can
purchase a or something.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Okay, but I go to full Disclosure Movement dot org
dot com. Okay, well, let's get to these black dogs, Mike,
because I guess you've heard that I had this weird
dog man encounter as I was leaving the Alabama forest
about a month ago, and I have been perplexed. It's

(19:43):
been very perplexing, like over what I exactly I saw. Well,
I came across a picture yesterday of an actual dog.
It's like a pit bull. It looks the head looks
exactly like what I saw on the side of the road,
crouched down in the grass, but it was the as
of a bear, like a big bear.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
So so I want to show this picture to the
audience today, okay, because this is I've been trying to
find a picture of something that looks like what I saw.
Now I'm going to show this picture to the audience,
and then I'm going to explain to you how it's
the same and how it's different as to what I
saw today. I'm not today whenever that was Okay, Oh

(20:26):
my god, And guess what, I didn't upload it, So
hold on, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to
go to my phone and upload this y'all.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
So let's.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Let's go on to something else right now until I
get it it.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Obviously didn't know what I want to bring up, something
to like it was a ways, ways ways back, right,
but I had I had had this thought and I
don't know why, but like what you're feeling right there,
I think you were out with Forget I forget that name,
but I remember Matt.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I forget his mom's name. But Matt. I think he
goes was by like outcast or something.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't know what he goes down, No, No, like
supernatural matter, Matt Spectrum, Matt, and he goes by.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Now I think, oh, Nona Boss's mom.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Oh Matt, Matt Williamson.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yes, that's it. Okay, good good friend. I'm just flaking.
But you guys were out like and like you say,
you guys saw something like shadowy too, like go by,
and the way the way it was described, it sounded
to me it's something like a dark like almost something
that was like this, but you know, like I don't

(21:40):
remember the exact description to the side, so I don't
want to butcher it, but it's this is what it's
reminded me of.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay, cool, very cool. I'm uploading this picture right now,
and then I'm gonna I'm gonna pull. I'm gonna keep
this up here on the screen so it doesn't Oh wait,
here we go, I can take it down. Matter of fact,
here I can take this down. Oh wait, there's there's
a bunch of me on here. Hold on, take that down. Okay,
I know technical. Look, I've gotten to the point to

(22:10):
where it's okay. I'm not even I don't I don't
see difficulty.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
I'm never showing a picture on a live stream because
I don't know how. Still, I don't feel.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now let's see. Let me go to my screenshots here
because I had to take a screen up. This looks
like a panther. Okay, so the way that I described this,
I said, it looks like a panther. Okay, it looks
like a like an African dog. And it looked like
a panther, and it looked like a bear. Okay. It
was like a three three combo, a three three part combo. Okay,

(22:47):
and all right, then let me get out of there.
All right. This is this is the picture that I
found online. I just came across this. This is what
the head looked like, Okay, of what I saw on
the side the road, this is I think there's things
I can't see behind my screen. It says a designer
pit bull worth over twenty thousand dollars. Who's paying twenty

(23:08):
grand for a dog?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I don't know, oh man dog.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
But it wasn't that muchmus.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I mean, they're really really like sought after, very sought after.
Especially well they're they're they're from a certain bloodline of
like these gigantic pits. I think like there's one named Zeus,
and like just his like like it's.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Almost like.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
It's a smaller version of how like farmers seek out
like a prize bull, right because you're gonna have a
great you know whatever. So it's it's a money making machine,
yeah in a way.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, Well, okay, if I'm paying twenty grand for a dog,
it better be a werewolf. But better I almost rice
for a were wolf.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I'm just I almost thought this was a black panther
because how how its ears were cropped so much. I
didn't see it at first, and then I I just
you know, how like you play that game where like, oh,
what do you see first? Like a duckt or a rabbit,
and like the first thing I saw was a black
panther before I saw a you know.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, so let me sell me. This is the almost
the exact face that I saw that night. Okay, it was.
It was big. But the only difference, okay, there's some
a couple of differences. It had rounded ears, big like
rounded ears on the top of its head where those
two little crop ears are. It had rounded ears, and
it had toughs of fur coming out of its ears,

(24:45):
like around his ears. And and it was pitch black,
all black, and but it was literally the size of
a bear. And it had pearly white teeth. The teeth
were the whitest teeth I've ever seen on an animal
in my entire life. A kind of gnashed his teeth
at me a little bit, and it was moving like
I kind of moved like a panther a little bit.
So it did look like a panther.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You don't, you you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
I've been I've had a lot of black bear encounters,
like a lot, and they don't they don't.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
You don't see their teeth. They you hear them coming.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
They sound like like like you don't know what it
is because they're breathing through their nose so heavy, like
it's yeah, they it's it's I guess it's similar to
like a large bore, right, but like you know, like
they're almost snorting because they breathed so fast but like
or so heavy when they're when they're running, and uh,
you can't really mistaken them for any like any other animal,

(25:39):
like unless they're like going really fast and they're like
bunched up like when they're first taken off.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But they you know, they're very easy too. I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
If you saw a bunch of different things in one,
it might have had a little tape shifting action.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well, it was just well I just saw elements of
three different animals in one is what it was. And
the first it was an African dog. Okay, now let's
we this is this is literally the same face that
I saw. It looked very similar to that, except the
ears were were rounded like a bear and and had

(26:16):
fur coming out of the top of its ears, just
like a hyena. Okay, so look kind of like a
hyena as well a little bit so. Uh So, anyways,
I just wanted to share that with you guys. With
the audience today. And and also it kind of had
a face more like this canine variant number two right there, Uh,
with the with the ears are kind of more rounded,

(26:38):
just like that with with tufts of hair coming out
of the top.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
And so that's why it was so confusing, Mike as
to what I had seen. And uh. And this is
in this was in the the mountains of the Appellations.
And uh. And to the audience, if you're curious to
know where the Appalachian Mountains are, this is a mouth
in the United States. It goes all the way up
into New York where Mike lives, all the way down
through Georgia and Alabama.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Down here where I was in Alabama, actually down in
the south southern part right there. And uh. And here's
a more up close type of of a map right here.
You know what's wild, Mike, I knew that I live
close to the Appellations, if not in the Appalations. And
then I was looking through some of these maps that
are very detailed as to which counties are considered the appellations.

(27:25):
And I live in the Appalations and that is why
I live. Yeah. Actually, the where I live is literally
in the southern part of the Appalachians. So uh, so
I can say, I can say Appalachia however I want, y'all. Okay,
there's always somebody complaining about how I pronounced stuff. Okay,

(27:47):
and uh and and and listen. I love it when
y'all y'all spell it out in the comments for me.
Thank you so much. I love it. But also I
can say it how I want. Okay, So I fish
we live in the Appalation, okay, but but this is
that's the Appellations right there.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I was doing a bunch of stuff for the longest
in the Appalachian areas and I had no idea you would.
You were the one that told me about it. You
were like, oh, that's an Appolachian. I'm like, oh, I'm like,
it's you know, that's it's in this, it's in the
Catskills over here and this, and you're like, yeah, look,
and I'm like, oh shit, but yeah, I always pictured

(28:31):
like the Appalachian Trail, you know what I mean. And
I was like, and if I wasn't on the Appalachian Trail,
I just figured I wasn't in the Appellations, you know
what I mean. I know it sounds probably ignorant for
people who have knowledge on it, but I just I
didn't have knowledge on it.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I think this is the one word that you and
I pronounced the same.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah probably yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yes says apple atcha Appalachia, Appalachia. Yeah, I just always
say Appalachia. Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
We say hard a's up.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Here, like yeah yeah. But even even when I talked
to DH, his a's are like.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Like you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
It's like, oh yeah, his his his busting his mass
accent is getting bad.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Uh, but there are different ways
to pronounce it. And yes, someone in the cha just
said pete pecans or peacans, and I say pecans. My
sister says pecans. How weird is that to two siblings
in the same group, in the same household, we have
two different pronunciations for pecans. Yeah, I'm just saying, okay,

(29:47):
but but my sister says peakans.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I'm a p P guy.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Oh you say pea cans and you live in the
New York.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, P call is going on here.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay, So anyways, it backwards, okay, very backwards. All right,
So so what do you think, Mike. Okay, I showed that
picture of the dog the designer twenty thousand dollars pit bull,
as compared to what I saw it, it was crouched
on in the tall grass too, and it was it
was literally like it was trying to hide from me

(30:17):
a little bit, but it was also looking at me
in nationalist teeth. Is that typical of a dog?

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Man?

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
I you know, i'd have I'd be guessed guessing, you
know what I mean, because I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I don't have enough data to say what's typical of anything,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (30:33):
And like, even even though I've had I've had encounters
and experiences, like, who's to say what's typical across the map? Now?
I would imagine if you got if you got to
the point where, like myself, where you pissed it off
or whatever, it's gonna it's gonna show teeth, it's gonna

(30:54):
do what it needs to do it to frighten you. Otherwise.
I'm sure I was around these things hundreds of times
before that where they just chose to, you know, like
make their presence not known. I probably damnly have stepped
over them, you.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
And and I so if I had to guess. I
guess to me, what's typical is that they they try
to remain not seen so much. But yeah, again that's
just kind of it's just kind of what I'm dealing
with here. I guess, I don't know, you know, maybe

(31:33):
in a different area, less populated or whatever.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Like I'm in a populated area.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
So like if a dog man presented itself and then
I decided to blow the whistle on it, like it
would rain hell of amounts of people on that. You know,
they they don't have a lot of room to work
with necessarily, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Like there's the pine.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
The pinemarons are huge, but like even still, and I
do believe that these cryptids do cross because there's so
many at large islands in between here in like Connecticut
and stuff on the East End, and like it's just
so there's it's just so perfect, you know, it's so perfect.
So I do actually think they go even into Connecticut

(32:16):
at times.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh yeah, Well, where I saw those two animals, I'm
gonna call them animals, it was just farm land out there.
There were like I didn't see any it was late
at night. It was like twelve thirty at night. Alabama time,
which is a little different from Doorda time, and it
was I couldn't really see what it was other than
you know, what was out there other than just pastures
and fences and stuff like that, maybe a gate occasionally

(32:39):
where there might have been housed as a Mark who
had on the show Saturday night said that, you know,
that's actually I gave him the exact location. He said,
that's where his friend, a guy he knows, owns that
property right there. And they had had bigfoots, multiple bigfoot
sign booger sightings, okay, and and dog men as well.
At of were wolves had been seen out there. So
another thing that I wanted to ask you about, Mike,

(33:01):
is as far as animal behavior goes, I had another
one that was actually sitting across the road from the
one that I saw its face and its teeth. There
was another one crouched down in the tall grass, but
his back was turned to the road and it never
turned out over to like look around. Is that typical
animal behavior for like I don't know, bears or I

(33:21):
don't even know like even a hog, like a giant
hogzilla or something.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
There's a reason for everything, you know what I mean?
I don't know enough about hogs, like I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
If I was in hog territory, I would literally like
submit to the next person that knows about them and
literally be like lead the way, you know, because I
just don't know enough about them.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
If anything.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Really, But for them to put the back, I mean,
it might have just been it might have just been
like trying to not be seen, you know what I mean,
Like the other one might have felt threatened because perhaps
you were between it.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Like if you ever see animals.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
When over there's a road involved, and some of them
are on one side and some of them are on
the other. The ones that are like past where they
want to be because they're on some migratory path. Then
they all know where they're going. They're all on the
same route. But now they got broken up for whatever reason,
whether it's a car or whatever. And the ones that
are still over on the other side start to get

(34:31):
if it's a deer, they get frantic, right like and uh,
you know, so it could have just been maybe trying
to make itself like it duck down and just stay hidden.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It was weird. It was really weird.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
That's that's the best photo of a door, Brian I
have is it looks like a tree. It's it's it
like I wish I had sent it to you before
we jumped on here. But uh, I mean you could
see its ears, you could see its eyes everything, you
know what I mean. But you can see its snout.
But it looks like a tree, you know, like the

(35:15):
way the lines just and stuff are in it head
is like the size of a horsehead. Like it's it's huge,
it's huge, and it's yeah, but it's just amongst the trees. Now,
I can't tell you if that's its coat, if it's
if it's uh, you know, ah, camouflaging to you know,

(35:40):
being able to like the predator whatever, being able to
like cloak into the or take on that it's I
don't know, like I don't know what it was doing
or in that moment, because I didn't honestly, I didn't
even really I didn't even really fully see it. I
just saw something kind of like go by over there
and it caught my attention, and I was filming and

(36:01):
somebody had shown me in the in the video and
I was like, oh my god, Like I did not
realize like what it was and what was there, you know,
hunkering down, but it was.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Huge hunkering down. I like how you said hunkering down,
because that's what I what I saw. Something was like
hunker down and uh. And I was actually sitting there thinking, well,
maybe it was like a bear that got hit by
a car or something. It was like trying, it couldn't
move or something like that. But then it started moving
like a panther when it when it started kind of
like slithering, it was like whoa, it was snake in

(36:33):
its body. It was weird. I can only see it shoulders.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
It was just like I said, Yeah, from what I
could tell, these dogmen like they're there. They they they
have like this like like strong like upper body, you
know what I mean, And like it becomes hard when
they stand up too, because like I guess some of
them have like that bow leg right like like like
lords do like that that, So if they're standing up,

(36:58):
they're probably like a little like weird. But the other
one seemed to kind of hunch over a little bit too,
so like yeah, like but but I'd imagine most things
would like to stay like hunkered down and like stay
in like a kind of uh. I don't know, like uh,
pouncy way, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's why I thought it was odd that
that one would not turn around, you know.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
But but nonetheless, Uh, that's a good question, Andrew. What
what would a booger sighting be? People don't know what
a booger is. Okay, Well, down in the south right
we call them, we call bigfoots boogers. Yeah, okay, And
they have been known for for decades, for centuries as boogers.
And and if you go to places like north northwest Georgia,

(37:46):
like in Rome, there's a place called Booger Holler. And
and we talked about that before when we discussed the
werewolf attack in Rome, Georgia. And uh, and all those
were wolf sightings we've had up in north northwest Georgia
bigfoot and where bigfoot, were wolves, dog men all up
there in that area. But if you go the old
timers call them boogers, old timer country folk colin boogers.

(38:09):
And even the Cherokee actually when you go up to
h I was in Cherokee many years ago, and and
you go up to the it's like an art center.
I think I forgot what what what it's called but
it's like a place where my buddy Will that I
had met has he made booger mask is what he
called him. And and they were basically bigfoot masks, okay,

(38:33):
and he would carve those and had them on display
in this museum. I forgot what it was called, but
it was a place where they display their art and
things like that. And so he made like totem poles
that had like bigfoots and stone witches on them.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Oh well, that's a whole other topic. Totem polls is
a very important thing. Uh yeah, I don't want to
even dive into that rabbit hole. But that was another
chapter in the book. I'm never right, you know, But yeah,
totem poll is.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
A big, big thing.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yes, yeah, yeah, but yeah, but I didn't know what
a booger was at first either. And then they were
like wood boogers. I'm like, wood bogger, it's so booger,
and I'm like, just flick it, you know, like I
don't know, yeah, but it's a product of your environment, right,

(39:27):
like so like I've never heard it, so like I'm
thinking of a booger, right, So like, but yeah, it
does go back and and like you said, the uh,
the old timers. They there. There's a lot of people
who have been experiencing them. I don't know if they're
like your typical sabs pots, like like with the extent

(39:49):
that I'm dealing with up here, I don't know, because
they seem to be a lot more like hostile towards homes,
if you will, like uh, down in that region like
the Alabama, Mississippi read they seemed to like to even
Virginia was they like to like I don't know, I
don't want to say terrorized, but like you know, put

(40:11):
a little put a little bunk in your step, a
little scare in you.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah. Well, we've we've heard stories and I think we're
gonna probably be talking about some of these, uh some
of these black dogs that have been seen in places
like there's stories about Taylor, Mississippi, I think where they
had like that siege of Locket Ranch. Now I think
that that Now, this is my opinion. I had been
given that as a remote viewing target, and I think
that that I'll be honest with you, Mike, I think

(40:35):
that that story, according to my data, was like it
was like a story, okay, but it was probably based
off some real dog man encounters that happened down there.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Agree, probably based off some some true encounters. But I
think overall, I mean, that was just from my remote
viewing data. Don't come at me, y'all, Okay. I think
that it was probably written, okay, as like a creative writing,
if y'all know what I mean. Okay, that's what I think.
I don't know for sure that was just the data, okay,
but I do think there have been a lot of

(41:06):
dog man reports out of Mississippi, and a lot of
times these dog men are black and they all they
have these bright white, shiny teeth, and that's exactly what
I saw in Alabama.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Well, a lot of stories get like like like that
have to be uh and once if they're illustrated as
fact or whatever, like you know what I mean, or like,
and they have that kind of subject closest problems, right.
I think this was the biggest, one of the biggest
things for uh, like the white Man when they came
here and took over, right, because they were able to

(41:41):
not only like put the Native Americans in like the
corner and like out of sight, out of mine, but
they were also able to take everything that they ever
wrote and just call it folklore, almost like it was fantasy,
right yeah, And and that automatically put in people's heads
that that, oh, these are like made up stories that

(42:04):
they tell their children at night or whatever, blah blah blah. Right,
it's their fun fantasy stories. No no, no, no, no, no,
it's history. It's history, but it's being pushed aside by
our culture and the way that we're taught as we
come up, right, And.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Anyway, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It's just like fairy tales with dragons.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
And you know, China doesn't idolize dragons for no damn reason, right,
Like I mean, you just you just have to look
at the surface, and you know what I mean, it's right.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
There, it's right there.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yes, yes, I.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Think you guys were talking about the Devil's Tower, right, yes,
and like that was a giant tree at one point, right,
and like I think so, yeah, I do too, And
I believe it needed to be destroyed, just like the
pair mids need to disappear, right because these are all
giant sources of energy and and and a grand, grandiose

(43:08):
history and and.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Things that don't fit the narrative, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yes, that's right, that's right. That's why, that's why it's all.
It's all in your head. It's all made up. There's
no monster under your bed or in your closet. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
But well, there's even a story I think of, like
people on top and there's a giant bear scratching at
it trying to get to them. I think there's some
something there, right, Like I think maybe when they were
I think it did. This is my thoughts, right, you know,
for entertainment purposes on. I have no facts on this end,
but I think the story gets kind of screwed up

(43:46):
is when the men were chopping it down and trying
to destroy it. I believe the forest entity is like large,
maybe looking large, like giant bear, came out and tried to.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
To you know, put a stop to it. And this
could have been along the lines of the times where
we kind.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Of separated, or they separated from us and just went
back in the woods and let us be and our
stories rolled on without them.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Could have been Yeah, I mean I think there was
some kind of crusade to go get rid of all
the mythological creatures like unicorns and dragons and all that. Yes,
it's just all all these secret societies know, don't y'all.
But I know y'all are out there. Y'all watch my shows.
I'll come clean one day. Okay, you can come on
my show. Come on my show. I will host y'all anytime.

(44:40):
Y'all want to come on and blow the lid off
of it. Okay. But nonetheless, well, let's nonetheless, there's a
lot of black dog sightings and in the Appalachian Mountains
MICU there it is a common it's almost like a
stable of appalation folklore as we call it. Uh hear
about these black dogs. And now there was a case

(45:01):
out of North Carolina in a place called val Crusis. Yeah,
North Carolina, and I have some pictures and in case
you guys don't know where val Crusis is, I have
definitely been through there before. This is this is where
it is on the map. Now, we've been talking about
a lot of things going on in North Carolina, from
the Lake Mermaids or River Mermaids, the Lake Norman monsters

(45:23):
out there. I've had let's see, I had Rob Effler
on the show from North Carolina. I've had several people
from North Carolina, Western North Carolina on the show and
talking about and I asked him about the apple the
secrets of the Appalachia Appellations, and he just got real
quiet and didn't say anything. He didn't answer my question.

(45:44):
So they don't play man up in that part of
the Appalachians. They don't play about their secrets and stuff
because there's.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
A lot you know.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
Yeah, but when you actually read that looks just like
the pictures I take when I'm standing on the top
of Catterskill Falls.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's what the Catterskill Wilderness looks like. It's insane. I
love it, but you got and it just makes you
wonder what's out there? Right, there's like just Catterskill.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Just Katterskill Park is like twenty seven two hundred and
seventy thousand acres or something, but anyway, maybe it's two million,
seven hundred thousand actually, but like I think we've talked
about this at Aeromdack Park is like six million, right,
which is like when you think about that, that's that's
just a part of New York. It's you know upstate

(46:31):
that you can fit Yellowstone Glacier like like three or
four National parks inside just that one. It was it's insane.
But anyway, we're talking about this right and and like
you said, it is a stable I think. And then
it is a stable and similar to like the Pine barrens,
and people always think of the Jersey Devil now right like,

(46:55):
but if you were like that man like who would
encounter these things, you wouldn't want to speak on them.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
You wouldn't want to give them energy or power.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Or manifest them, right like like me and you, I
think are similar that we won't say the w thing
like you know what I mean, like we don't like
talking about that thing.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, you won't say the word.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't do it.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I'll say it, go ahead, Yeah, I don't talk about
that thing, but it has very very much power up
by where I go in the Catskills. The natives told
me to like where. I said, where should I not go?

Speaker 2 (47:35):
And why? And they said, you know, they gave me
the off limit spots or whatever. You know.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
I kind of told them, I said, I'm not looking
for answers like I always try to lead off with that.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm not trying to pry. I'm not trying to pull
any knowledge from you because I don't want to do that.
I just want to tell you that I'm on this like.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Fantastical voyage in a sense, right, and like I'm I'm
uncovering all these things, and I just don't want to
uncover the wrong thing. So if if you don't mind
telling me where, maybe I shouldn't go and dig things up,
you know, And and they will tell you, like they
have spots. Every tribe has spots where they even way

(48:15):
way back that they would not go and even hunt
in or whatever because of that even bad energy, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
They however, it's categorized. They just it's off limit. I
just so call them off limitary, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah, just don't go down there. Not holler. Yeah, yeah,
it's not worth that if they're SUPs telling you to
stay away from somewhere, to stay away from it, or
or if you're like I don't know, you and I
might we go out looking for masters. So we're going
to go right for it.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
You said something, you said something at a week ago
or two, and you said, I signed up for this,
so whatever, and as do I I did, I signed
up for this. I willingly signed up for this. Like
I knew there were a point where I knew like
and again. I'm gonna talk about some Native Americans and

(49:05):
actually some natives from other countries too that were involved
in my next step, uh, New Zealand and Australia and
and and and they were like like, like, when we
take you to here, you cannot You're not going to.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Be able to go back. I sat on that. I
sat on that for like a while, like, you know,
a few days. I sat with that.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
They said, because that's a big thing to think about, right,
and I said, let's go, you know, let's go.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, oh man, yeah, no turning back now? Want she
want listen? Once I get a an idea to do something,
I just go in full force. I don't hold back
if I if I if I feel like I need
to go somewhere and I get called to go there,
I go there. And it doesn't matter. I'm like, who's
coming with me? I'm gonna go by myself and nobody
comes with me. But I don't know, somebody always ends

(50:00):
up coming okay with me on these on these trips
and stuff. So uh but yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Best way you cannot turn off missing or whatever or
anything is you know, leave a note behind and just
say here's where I went.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
You know what I mean. Yes, and this is when
where I went. I went hiking. I wasn't you know,
rock climbing or whatever.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah, yeah, oh I just saw Okay, this is I
just saw a post I speaking. This is on on subject.
I saw this post on like Instagram, and it's really sad.
This couple had gone missing and they were going to
go exploring taking some pictures. There was like they had
their day off and there was a young couple and
they went to some cave or something I don't know,

(50:48):
They're going to go explore somewhere and uh and they
never I mean, their their car never came up, and
nobody could find where they were. There was a straight
up missing for all these years. And uh, in a
group of archaeology or cave dive or somebody some like
research group went inside this old mine there's either like
a cave or mine, and the cave had collapsed and

(51:11):
they found their skeletons sitting in chairs like on the
other side of where the mine had collapsed right there.
They had gone in there to take pictures and stuff.
And so you just can never be too careful, y'all.
Always let somebody know where you are, even if you
go into a cave, those spot devices probably aren't gonna
work out there.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
You just don't know, Yeah, you just don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Like and especially I always preach safety like with places
like going on is a safe bet because it's it's
it's what we call flat land.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
There's really not a lot of.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Like there's not a lot of like places where you
can really screw up bad except going into water maybe.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But like.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Some places you don't want to go if like there's
leaf cover or snow cover or whatever, because you don't
know what's what you're stepping over, right, because it just
looks like, oh, like you know, snow and I'm walking
through the snow. And but next thing, you know, you know,
even if your ankle goes in like some you know whatever,
you could you could get really screwed up. I think

(52:12):
there was a guy hiking in in even dry climate
like in Arizona, and like he got stuck for like
I forget, Like the guy got his legs stuck and
he was there for like they made a movie about it.
It was called like one hundred and something hours.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
It was his arm, it was his arm and he
cut it off with a pocket knife.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
That's how that's what yeh wow, all right, it's like one.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Hundred and thirty two hours or something like that. I
don't know, y'all people the audience, Yeah, he arm. I'm sorry, y'all.
But anybody who climbs through little, tiny tight spaces in
the in the caves, y'all, y'all are way different people.
Y'all are a whole different breed man.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
It's not even do it.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
If I gotta, if I gotta even contort my body
slightly to get into a cracker crevice of a the cave,
I ain't going.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Speaking of Appalachia, there's a spot on the trip on
that in Appalachia that I found and uh, it has
this little dinky fence around it, And I'm like, why
is this fence here?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Right?

Speaker 3 (53:11):
But like I wanted to know. It was like I
was really like on this off beaten path, but you
could see it's been you know, used a couple of times.
But like I'm like, so I'm like, what is this?
So I go, you know, I find my way around it,
and sure, shit, it's a cave and I go to
kind of go in a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
It's dark in there.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
First of all, you don't really know what's in there,
and like and it's really not easy to move around there, right,
you could fall out whatever. Even there was a couple
like you know, like somebody spray painted something and like
I'm like looking at where it is, I'm like I would.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Not even go that far.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
And I'm I'm like, I don't know. Uh, I don't
want to say. I'm not scared of a lot of things,
but like I I'll risk it for the biscuit, but
that caves ain't worth it to me.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
We get it.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
No, No, they're definitely not going to it.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yeah, else gonna have it.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, we talked about some caves on Saturday night, and
we've got Mark Green in the chat today. What's up. Mark?
Thank you so much for being here, and thanks so
much to you and Rebecca for joining us on Saturday night.
That was a great show. I cannot wait to have
you back on and we have more to talk about
with that. But but yeah, it is so important y'all.
If you go out into the woods, you go exploring,
please just let somebody know where you're going and and

(54:28):
have a time to check back in with your family
or a friend or your neighbor. You know, whoever, please
please do that, okay, because we love you and we
need you. As the great words of mister Charles Hardy
out of Paulding County used to say that in his
commercials for his car dealership. If anybody knows about him, Okay,
we love you and we need you. And and that

(54:50):
is my motto with you guys too. Okay, we love
you and we need y'all.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
I even do it in my truck if I if
I park like in a if I part playing a
lot where like maybe it's uh, it's a little dicey
outside or whatever, and like the trails or whatever, or
like one trail goes this way, one trail goes this
way right, and they go for like fifty miles and
each side. I'll like just write like and I'll leave

(55:15):
it like you know, kind of like on my seat
and I'll just wrote it right like went north or
went west, and I write a time, you know what
I'm saying. And people whatever, like if you don't miss it, whatever,
at least they know kind of which way to go,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
And it's a last resort.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
But when you drive up to these like spots and
like you don't see a car for like, you know,
forty five minutes and then you get to a place
and there's nobody around and like all as your hear
is like I know, you know, like an eagle in
the distance or something, and it's.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Like all right, you know, it's not a good feeling
if something were to happen. And with like me, you know,
I'm always like like when I was driving down that
road leaving that w m A out in Alabama, I
I kept thinking, like I literally said to myself, I
was like I said, I was like, oh my god,
in my car. Something is in my car. I'm just
gonna die, Like this is this is wild. Like I

(56:12):
didn't mean literally die, but I meant like emotionally would
be psychologically out there. Yeah, because it was a long
walk back and it was really creepy. If I had
been back to the camp, yeah, I would have made it.
I would have been fine, but it was just it
was rough. I do want to mention this one comment

(56:33):
right here that we had from Brandon. Brandon tiger Man said,
if you ever get really injured, don't ever give up.
Keep fighting through your injuries. They will eventually He'll don't
give in or give up. Thank you. That is a
great comment right there, and I agree with that don't
give up and that one guy unfortunately he did cut
his arm off with a pocket I always keep a

(56:53):
pockat night with with you in case you got to
cut your place.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
I mean, I don't care how sharp your pocket knife
is cutting through bone.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yeah, man, yeah, oh my god, you have rocks.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I mean, imagine how bad do you want it?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Like, I don't know, I.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Don't I don't know either. I don't know either whatever,
I'm not going to know.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
You never know until you get into that situation yourself.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
That's very true.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
You never know.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
People say it to me all the time, like if
they hear like one of my stories like about like
when I was overseas or whatever, which I don't talk
about like in detail like day to day, but sometimes
it comes up or whatever, you know, and people be like,
oh my god, like like I could never do that,
And it's like you have to, you know, it's like

(57:52):
if you if you don't, you don't do the next thing.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
You know, it's game over? Yes, what do we what
do we call it? On the line alive?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
It's uh yeah, Quentins yes, oh my gosh. Okay, well,
let me tell you there were a couple of teenagers
who thought it was Quentin's for them in North Carolina
at val Crusis. I know, I got off on a
tangent there, y'all.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah, it's my fault. Usually it's all my fault.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
It's all my fault. So we got on. So they
were they went to the cemetery. Now, if they're like me,
they're just thrill seekers and they like to go get
chased by monsters in a cemetery, now we we. I
do want to set the tone for this because you know,
we have a lot of dog man sightings at cemeteries
and bigfoots as well.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Mh yeah, oh man.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
I meant to. I was going to try to pull
up a video actually, and I forgot, damn it, I forgot.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
There's a you know, we have the grave digging dog
Man out of Ohio that Colleen Norris brought us on
the show that those two girls took. But there's also
a grave digging dog man in the Appellations as well,
another one. And I was watching this video. I try
to I try to add it to my social media
today after the show TikTok, and I try to repost

(59:20):
it on TikTok maybe, But I was watching this video
and I'm watching this like thing like digging and digging
and digging in a real cemetery behind a real church,
and I'm thinking, like, man, you gotta be real mentally
messed up to go out and start digging like that
in a cemetery. That's not funny. That's not a joke.
We don't joke like that, okay, just like with that

(59:41):
one in Ohio, we don't joke like that. Okay. That
there's just a nobody. I don't care how gone you
are in the head. You know, maybe maybe then you
could do it. But but these things are like black
figures with like ears on top of their heads in
both cases, with the one that Colleen brought us and
this other one from the Appalation and cemetery. So I

(01:00:02):
don't know, I don't know why a dog men are
digging maybe digging for bones, you know what I mean.
But uh, but nonetheless, okay, so there's some thrill seekers.
I guess. These these two teenage I think they were boys,
were up in the Appalations in val Cruses and they
were at they were passing by this Episcopal church and

(01:00:23):
and they said, let's see. Okay, so they were I
think they were probably from Appalachian Appalachian State University I
think is the name of the college, but they just
sat a nearby college that's sim boone, North Carolina. They
were driving past the cemetery one night when a shadowy
figure jumped out in front of their vehicle, scaring them.
Here's another picture of the church right here. But it

(01:00:46):
scared them, and uh, and it chased their car. They
sped off and to their horror, this thing they looked.
They thought that they had like they had gained traction.
They were like flying down the road. And listen those
roads and out not Alabama, North Carolina or winding, especially
in the mountains. You can't drive ninety miles an hour
down those roads.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Something kept poking my brain, you know when you get
like like a nudge and nodgen on. So something kept
nudging me to like, look up, what val CRUs this means.
It means bail of the cross. Okay, it's pretty interesting, interesting, Yeah,
of the cross.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Yeah, you're probably you're also you're probably thinking of like
the veil being thin as well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yeah, the veil of the cross, so maybe things cross,
you know, or yeah, it might be a little temperament.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Okay, Well they said this thing with the dog, it
was a dog with it was black with red eyes,
and it was pacing their vehicle. They thought that they
had gotten away from it, and they looked behind them,
and it was pacing behind them. And even as they
sped up and we're doing abnormally fast speed through the
mountains out of there, it was right beside their car

(01:02:01):
and right behind them, pacing with them. I mean that
from the diagrams that I was looking at and stuff, like,
the dog was bigger than their car. Actually, I mean
it was huge. It was definitely human size. It was
it was definitely human size and be human. And and
so I was thinking, well, could it have just been
a dog? I mean, it's not often that we see

(01:02:22):
these dogs, but we have these tells, this folklore of
these black dogs in the appellations, and and but what
we see hear about more today are dog men and
they have red eyes. A lot of times they.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Say, I mean it was just a regular dog. They
I don't. I don't think they would have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
You know, you could literally get in your car and
Kujo can't get you, you know what I mean? So, like,
I mean, something made them take off. It had to
be that's what's making me think, because the dog could
easily keep up with a car.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
But like even Vic has an encounter that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
He talks about occasionally where the dog man was pacing
the vehicle and they were they were speeding, and it
had its head in the window, like as it was
running next to the car, it was like in the
window kind of like is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
That the Joe bergerwin where he shot it in the face.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Oh, yeah, I've I've only heard him. I've only heard
him talk about that part. I never like heard the
full the full story.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, he's a wild Yeah, he can dial you right
in and he'll be like, oh on episode twenty one,
and I'm like, how do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
He's really good at that, I know, good memory. Yeah, yeah,
just an old part. That's funny because I I had
made I was joking around about this when I was
at that conference talking to some people. He says, you
don't have to be faster than the dog man. You
have to be faster in the slowest person with you.
I know, I was joking around about somebody and you're like, well,

(01:03:59):
you know, I'm not I'm not gonna go there. We're
not gonna talk about it. Okay. Yes, that's why you
got to trust the people you're with in the woods too,
that they're not going to like shoot you in the
leg or something and let you go down and let
the dog man eat you. Okay. I only know people
I trust.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Okay, Yeah, those guys, now, we're all going down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Okay, those guys you go with dog man hunting with
or whatever you want to call it, Like, those guys
look like special ops.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Man. They're like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Like, if somebody were to shoot me in the leg
or whatever and put me, I'm all shooting them back. Okay,
we're all going down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
So yeah, those guys are those guys are badasses. Those
are the type you want with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yes, absolutely nobody would ever do that. Okay, none of
us would ever do that. And so that's why you
go through a heavy vetting process if you go out
with us when we go to do dangerous stuff like
this dealing with the dog man. But however, these black
dogs have been around for a long time, and some
people say they actually in the Appalachian Mountains. They kind

(01:05:05):
of originate with some of the English settlers that came
over here who brought the stories with them of the
black dogs, and and that's why they're here. How they're
explained away basically as like, well, the English came over
here and started talking about them, like the snarly snarly y'all. Y'all?
Is that how you say it? Snarly yow yow? And

(01:05:29):
they say that this it actually walks on two The
snarley owls walk on two legs. Though, Mike, so to me,
that would be a dog man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I thought you were saying owl earlier. Yeah, I was
googling an owl. I'm like, what is this SNAr.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I know, I can't it's my accent, Okay. I had
to spell it out so people will know what I'm saying.
So it began in the seventeen hundreds with German immigrants
and the Appalachians, a lot of them were miners actually,
and of course the dog mancitings persist to this day.
But the snarly yow yow was known to be around

(01:06:09):
in the seventeen hundreds in the Appalachian Mountains, and it
was not called a dog man back there back then.
But that's what we call it today, I kind of
think I'm gonna start calling them snarly yows. People are
having going to have no idea what I'm talking about.
But this is how they were described, kind of walking
on two legs, four legs and two legs.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
They can have.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
It's supposed to a dark blue, gray or white fur.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
It's or this dark saggy skin, skin, red eyes and lips,
physical being, they thought. But they said unless a fog
is present, they was able to keep up with a
horse at full gallop. Yeah, that's some fast shit. I mean,

(01:06:58):
like like I mean, and I don't know, I wanted
to mention too. There was I think it was during
World War two. I guess there was a certain battle
and I don't I don't recall where it went down,
but the German I believe Germans and Americans and the

(01:07:19):
Germans actually labeled the marine, the American Marines as devil dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
During that battle.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
And it was I guess it was because it was
like the way they were like up close and just
like relentless, like going at them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Whenever and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
So you know, that's just interesting to me, like why
they picked that term. So maybe it was something that
was kind of common for European urs.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
You know, like yeah, well, yeah, well, okay. Back in
nineteen thirty seven, there was a blue singer. His name
is Robert Johnson. Okay, and one of the most haunting
blue songs of all times he wrote is called uh
Hellhound on my Trail Okay and uh. And so it
says that the lyrics are kind of up for debate

(01:08:07):
as to what he was talking about. But he's talking
about the hound of Baskersville chasing a blue singer through
the backwoods of Mississippi. So it's basically like a dog
man hellhound, big black dog or a hellhound could have
been a dog man chasing him through the backwoods of Mississippi,
which I think that's kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Of course, hellhounds are definitely associated with the underworld. I know,
we're talking about devil dog, same thing. In my opinion,
I think devil dogs and hellhounds are the same thing, right,
But you know, the connection between dogs in the underworld,
to go back to the beginning at time was like
a new bis Okay. Of course, the god of the

(01:08:48):
underworld basically an ancient folklore and uh. And of course
the dogs that guard the gates of the underworld, the
gates of Hell, okay, the hellhounds and uh and the British.
I have tales of these black dogs, okay, the black
dog just like I mean, I have a list here

(01:09:08):
of so many different hell hand I mean, like literally,
I have like ten pages right here of black dogs
that come out of England. That's why I wanted to
kind of set the tone where I said, you know,
they say that this tail came over with the black dogs.
The folklore came over with these English immigrants, okay, because
they have so many Now, a black dog in England,

(01:09:31):
the south of England. They're a supernatural, spectral or demonic hellhound,
originating from English folklore and it's present throughout Europe and
the Americas. It's usually an un naturally large dog with
glowing red or yellow eyes. It's connected to the devil.
Of course, we call it the hellhound as well, and

(01:09:53):
it's sometimes an omen of death. Is associated with electrical
storms such as black shucks appear parents in Suffolk, and
also with the crossroads in that where we go to
sell our soul to the devil. I wouldn't do it, okay,
I'd never do it, but some people do it and Bluers, right, yeah,

(01:10:16):
And there's also they're also seen seen in execution and
ancient pathways. Execution I guess for people have died, maybe
like the gallows where they used to be or something.
I don't know, but they it's more like a supernatural
type of a being. Okay, now here we're seeing full out.

(01:10:36):
They're not apparitions. I don't know that one dog Man
out of Fort Pierce, Florida. I remember that one, that
blue guy that was on Facebook Live. That one looked
like it was a ghost on Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
See, I've I've filmed things live too that that that
I've tried to like take later and and look at.
And I guess because it's live, it looks a little
more like it's phasing or kind of you know what
I mean, more more like less physical than it was

(01:11:09):
you know, in person. And so that kind of can
be hard because if they had like a crappy slow connection,
especially back then that you're talking about the one that
comes looks like a kangaroo kind of coming out from
because to me, that's the way I've seen them move too.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
On two legs. They they they bound like almost like kangaroos.
And I'm not talking a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah, I'm not talking about bullshit like a little like
you know, us jumping like they they get it going, Yeah,
they get it going.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, Yes, I've actually Okay, so there is one video
that I've had it on my social media before and
I've been told it's a real dog man, a real one,
and and someone said that they the way they got
it it was on like a DHS website or something.
It was like somebody had broken into this, somehow hacked
into a system. Okay, that was the word on the street.

(01:12:01):
And and yes, I do. The shadow Man says that
they work for the government. I think you're talking about
probably about these dog man and stuff. Maybe I think so.
I think the government is fully aware of them. And
but but there's a video and it's it's it's almost
like it's missing a frame, so it almost looks like
like I think Bigfoot Dwarf had described it well on
my show one time. He's talking about how if you

(01:12:23):
had taken like what he saw was. I don't know
if it was a Bigfoot or a dog man he
was talking about, but it was like if you take
one of those those books where you could like the
pages really quickly, and it like it's like it makes
it look a cartoon moving, but it's like kind of choppy.
That's how that video is of that dogman. It's almost
like choppy movement and and and maybe it's just because

(01:12:45):
the quality of the the video. It's like a CCTV
type of a video, I guess, and it looks like
it's missing a frame like that choppy movement. It's also
moving really quickly. And I have been told I know,
I'm fully aware of y'all. I've had when people tell
me I shouldn't be out there chasing these things around
and looking for them because I have no I stand

(01:13:06):
no chance.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
I don't know how to do it. I don't know
how to do it facing the camera.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Yeah, that's what we're talking about. When those little flip
books exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
There you go, trying to do it facing the camera.
It's not Yeah, my son, my son has a King
Kong one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
That's exactly it. And that's what that dog man look
like that video that I saw. Man, that's so that's
that's incredible. Mike. Thank you. I can't believe you had that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Yeah, Yeah, I love these things look Dominia.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
Oh yeah, Oh man, Mike, it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
It's hard to show I love it showing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
That I could see it. I can totally see it.
Do you have you ever been close enough to a
dog man to smell one? Because I've never heard that
they like smell bad. They're not like Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
No, I didn't smell it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
And you know, one of the other things that I've
uncovered through like reliving and telling it like, is I
didn't hear anything either. So in that one situation where
they bound at me, like uh, I should have heard
like snarling or like even like movement out of the

(01:14:20):
brush and back into the brush. And as they, you know,
as they came towards me, I don't know if it
was because I was in like a state of like
shock or what like, but I kind of think it
was more or less like I don't know how to
explain it, Like you remember that movie Biodome. I kind
of feel like like when you experience these things, like

(01:14:41):
these cryptids and different things, they're like it's almost like
you're in like a little like shoot like section of
a different world, right and like and then almost like
when the encounter ends, it's like muode it's like it's
all gone, and like sound comes back, and smell comes back,
and wind and you know what I'm saying, I leaves

(01:15:01):
rustling everything. You know, it's almost like that that all
stops for a second, and I don't know how to
I don't know how to explain it, you know, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Yeah, it's like you're the dimensions of overlapped or something
and you've gone through some kind of dimensional portal thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Yeah, yeah, Tyrone says it must I must be in
a different frequency. I never seen a dog man, you know.
It's all about frequency though, byke too, that's that's all
the word frequency over there, So thank you, Tyrone. But yeah,
it's a frequency thing, I think, and maybe we're just
different in and out of different frequencies, different radio stations. Basically.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, it's factual.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
I mean, you could stand two feet from somebody or
two miles from somebody, and if you ain't on the
right dial, you'll never connect.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
So I mean, like I know, some folks think, never
on the right now for nothing, Okay, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Saying, if I'm not and if I'm not in a
good mood, like in the right frame.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Like if I'm like if I'm like pissed or like
shits sour or like I'm sad, whatever, I don't go
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Like I've learned. I've learned that I have to go
out like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
At a steady uh you know, like a steady even Yeah. Yeah,
I have to vibrate at a certain level.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
And like I I I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I do it. I do kind of like a walking
raki as well, where like I'm tapping into like the
life energies around me and stuff and like trying to
like put myself out and like try to get you
know what I'm saying reciproctive, good energy and this and
that and uh you know, oh that's yeah, I say.

(01:16:47):
I don't want to say this because it's going to
be a slogan I use in the future, but uh yeah,
like yeah, open heart is great.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Absolutely, open heart, open mind. That's what I always say.
So William knighthawks and the check out. What's up, William,
thank you for being here, he says. The devil dog
originally came from immigrant farmers from Irish descent. When they died,
their dogs were buried with them for protection. Yes, yeah,
from what I was researching, I was finding that it

(01:17:16):
was you know, the English immigrants, the Irish, the Welsh,
all those, all them folks over there, all my relatives okay,
uh came over and brought brought this with them, you know,
just like the French brought the vampires. Okay with the
casket girls. I'm just kidding. I don't know we did.
We have kind of pondered on that a little bit though,

(01:17:37):
talking about the different the different monsters okay, that came
over from Europe and how they got here, and this
could be this could be one of them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah, I mean, I mean Elena, like we do video
calls a lot, and like the shadow people like it's
it's such a common thing, like I mean, at least.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Where she's at for her, I should say.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
I guess, you know, there's a million things that people
don't pay attention to that we pay attention to, right like,
So it could be that to you know, to some extent.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
But it could be it could be Colleen, Hey, Colleen,
she says. S Walker and dog form ran alongside a
car at three am in the form of a wolf
near the ABQ Albuquerque Airport on Gibson, a major road
off the freeway that scared the driver, my man's coworker.

(01:18:33):
It was going seventy five miles an hour and it
kept up. Dang. Yeah, that's that's unnerving, you know, going
saying that's like those two boys that were I guess
I'm going to assume they're boys, two students from that
college in val Crusis, North Carolina. They said that the
dog whatever that was that jumped out at them at
that cemetery was keeping up with their car at high speed,

(01:18:58):
high speeds. That reminds me of this vida that I've
been seeing. I saw it like it looks like a
just looks like a teenager maybe, and like one of
those all spandex body suits with the with the face
and the hood on it and everything. It's like Spider
Man or something.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Yeah, mister too. Yeah, there's a guy who does it
in an orange at the at the Mets games.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Oh yeah, I mean I'm not into Spandex man, I
I have those days are over. I'll never wear Spandex again.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Okay, buts I cover your head your toes.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
My son loves those are used to at least he
had he had one in every color, every every superhero
that was the thing for kids for a while. He
actually he actually busted some holes in the Deadpool and
the dead He used to wear the Deadpool costume so
much it was ripped all the time. Okay, because he
kept growing out of and I had to keep buying
new ones. But anyways, uh, my days of wearing spand

(01:19:50):
X are done. Okay, after having a kid, no more ever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
But but I could see him doing.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Oh yeah he was he was Deadpool.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
But but there's this video where there's this guy, I
assume it's like a guy, and he's running really fast,
and maybe it was all set up, you know, maybe
they were like, let's do it for the gram, let's
do it for the TikTok. This guy just kind of
comes out of nowhere and starts pacing, running up beside
a car that had a bunch of people in it,
and it starts. He starts pacing beside the car. He's

(01:20:22):
pacing the car and they're like, you know, trying to
speed up to get away from the thing just keeps
getting closer to their car.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Its weird.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Yeah, yeah, I always wonder about that one. It's allegedly
a big put video, but it's like somebody's uh backup
camera and uh, you know what I mean, they like
seem to run out. It's like it looks like there's
cornfields or something on both sides, whatever the case, but
it looks like they would like outrun something and then

(01:20:50):
they stop and put and but why would you put
your reverse you know, reverse on? But anyway, the reverse
camera shows something running words it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Oh my gosh, yeah, that's that's weird. I don't know. Uh, yeah,
that's something that I need to invest in. After after
that incident in Alabama, I am definitely gonna be investing.
I have not done it yet because I've had too
many other things that I've had to pay for and
behind go to h lately. But I will be investing
in cameras, dash cams and backup cams and stuff like

(01:21:27):
that to run all the time when I'm in the
you know, not not just in the woods, you know,
but cameras to run pretty much all the time in
my vehicle. Actually, I think that's important when you're especially
out in the woods doing the stuff that we're doing. Mike,
we should probably all have those.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
And a lot of these a lot of states have
have these places where like you can ride through the
state forests and stuff too. Like there's a lot of
like drive throughs, like uh, I was in Florida like
Okalla for instance, or I was in can I with
another guy and we went through this patch pok state
forest and like you can drive around and I mean

(01:22:07):
you can literally video like these areas and you know, front, back, left,
right if you want.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
While you're driving, you can just take a slow pace.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
But when we were in Florida and o'calla I was,
I was, I got to just kind of ride along,
so it was different for me. I wasn't driving France,
but trying in my big flesh light out and stuff,
seeing different things. And then as soon as we decided
to stop, and o'calla is huge, a big, big place,
and there were bear prints, you know, fresh bear prints,

(01:22:39):
and we had at first thought they were like small,
like we're like, well, that's footprints, right, like it looks
like human footprints, but of course we know a double step.
But seeing seeing a double step in person is like amazing.
You look at it like that looked like it's crazy,
similar to a bear footprint, a human bear footprint.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
A human bear footprint.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
It's very similar to a double step from a bear.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Oh man, you know what? That's sort of that Mark
and I talked about Saturday night, Mark Green, who's in
the chat today? Is something Mark's talking about bear a
bear man or something okay, like a bear man and
the appellations as well. So yeah, might might line up
with the zombie bears that I've talked about before.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
I mean there's probably My guess is there's all sorts
of things. Like I mean, we never really.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Nobody ever really touches on like the elementals, right like,
but there's so many different ones, and I mean they
there's so many it's insane. So I don't understand why
it's so hard for people to grasp the idea of
these different types of cryptids or hybrid crossovers or whatever,

(01:24:02):
you know, things that look like man but also.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Like animal, right Like, you know, it doesn't have to
come from a lab, you know what I mean? Most
likely anything that goes is coming from.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
A lab is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Trying to be redone, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
The impostors.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah, like like like like Montak for instance, like how
far down that place went? And stuff I don't think
we had those capabilities back then.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
I do not, And I think that I think that
it was personally. I think it was an on an
acky base at some point or whatever. Yeah, and I
believe that they took it over knowingly and they were
trying to recreate things that were left behind. And you know,
similar to like Jurassic Park, right like, wa, no, no, no,
look at this. We found a you know, mosquito and

(01:24:59):
you know, go to all these lengths to do ship.
That's pretty much what they're doing on Plumb Island. So
it's like, you know that thing on shore and the
Montauk Monster washed up right on shore. Visual people take
a picture, but.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, right away, it's got to be something different. It's
got it had like a beak on it. It's like,
there's got to be an explanation. Everybody's always got an
explanation for stuff, just like that that human with the
long fingers that Brian has that drawing of that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Yeah, yeah, they and they drilled into its head either
it had five holes in its head or whatever, or
they drilled into it. But but whatever, the well, actually,
so whatever the person who did the report on finding
that body and that's how they drew it. Why would they,
you know what I'm saying, weird, weird, weird, weird.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Oh my gosh, Jean splicing is fun, Beth, You're so silly. Yes, yeah,
says Montalk was built around ancient temples, a pyramid, ancient
underground ures.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think we just found out
Mount Montalk, Mount Montalk or or whatever it's called. It
was really hard for us to find for a long time,
and it was it was hidden in plain sight, hidden
in plain sight. It's like the entrance to it is
like and I never knew it was there, is right
between like two people's houses, and then you go up
there and like, I mean, uh, I don't know, I

(01:26:25):
don't I don't want to dive into Montalk right now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
But it's just yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Mean, it's it's their appellations kind of Okay, well, I
know it's time. It's time for you to go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Yeah, my alarm just went off, so.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
You can run. I'll finish out the show. Okay, Okay,
thank you so much, thank you for being here today. Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
It's been awes. Let's holler later, okay, anytime, anytime.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Chicken fingers and tighter logs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
All right, guys, you to this new stream yet here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
I'll take you down there, we go, all right, got them?
All right? Yes, So Montalk has ancient temples and a pyramid,
you guys down there. I didn't know all that, but
it doesn't shock me, okay, because of all of the
teleportation experiments that went on there, all the mind control,
all the stuff going on, their time travel experiments and
all that. And I was with, by the way, at

(01:27:24):
the Full Disclosure Now conference, I was with a whole
bunch of the survivors of a few of them, actually
a handful of them, survivors of the Montalk programs that
happened out there where Mike does his bigfoot research over
there at Camp Heuro And I've been there with him
doing that, so so really interesting, really interesting stuff over there.

(01:27:46):
I did want to talk about this black shock real quick, too,
because we're talking about all the black dogs out of
England and how the English and maybe even the Irish,
like William said, did bring these black dogs over here
to the New to America, okay, and or the folklore
came with them. I think they're dog men. I think
they're dog men, y'all. Okay, I think there's a variety

(01:28:08):
of them, but black Shuck is in Norfolk, Suffolk, Lincolnshire
and the northern parts of Essex. A black dog known
as black Shuck, also old Shuck or Shock, a bunch
of different names, is regarded as a malevolent is regarded
as malevolent, with stories ranging from terrifying people or unliving them,

(01:28:29):
to be an important of death to themselves, or I'm
going to read that, y'all, it's on my notes here,
or a person close to the victim, oh there tells
that in fifteen seventy seven it attacked the church in
the market town of Bungay, probably didn't pronounce that right,
unliving to people, and appearing on the same day at

(01:28:51):
the church in the nearby village of Bleithberg, taking the
lives of another three and leaving claw marks which remain today.
In the parish of Overstrand is a land known as
Shuck's Lane from its frequent appearances there. According to urban legend,
the spot where it was just seeing Oops, hold on, y'all,

(01:29:14):
my computer's about to die. Sorry, but it was last
seeing it was examined, the one may find scorch marks
and the smell of brimstone like fire and brimstone, right,
but they are also less common tales of a similar
dog said to accompany people on their way home in
the role of a protector rather than an omen of misfortune.
And they think that black shuck means shaggy, so like

(01:29:37):
a shaggy dog. And how are dog men often described
just having long I not all have long hair, but
I'll tell you what I saw if those were dogmen. Uh,
the one that was over with his back turn did
have long shaggy hair.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
It did.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
It was It was not super If you've ever seen
that picture of like the of the bigfoot in the
trail cam, it looks like a foot with its back,
it's just you could just see its back and it
has like long wiry hair. That's what it looked like. Okay,
that's what it That's what it looked like with something
like that. And uh and I and I did want
to point out that in an Appalachia, Appalachia, okay, like Apalachicla,

(01:30:16):
I do say Apalachicola. Okay, so you guys can chew
on that. Okay, I do say appalachic Cola. That's down
in Florida. By the way, they have good oysters down there. Okay.
But but people in Appalachia, a lot of them say
that when they see a black dog, you can tell
that it's not just a black dog. There's something not

(01:30:39):
right about it. Okay, it's kind of like those not
deers that we've talked about. But but these black dogs,
including these hell hounds, they just say, there, they look
a dog, but there's just something off about it, something off.
And uh, and let's talk about the Kentucky hellhound because
somebody in the chat, I can't remember who it was,
I saw earlier today, somebody in the in the chat
had said that they are from Kentucky and had heard

(01:31:01):
about the Kentucky hell Hounds, and so I wanted to
go over a little bit of that with you guys
before we go today. Let's talk about the hellhounds. And
I'll pull this picture right here back up, because they
described them as looking like just like a big dog. Okay.
And here's one of my favorite AI creations right here
of one of these black dogs, which is actually a

(01:31:25):
dog man. But in nineteen thirty nine they had there
was an encounter. Look, it actually looks like me with hands. Okay, Okay,
just kidding y'all. The first encounter in nineteen thirty nine,
Moonshiners encountered what is called the Kentucky Hellhound, and of
course the guys from that TV show, The Mountain Monsters,

(01:31:46):
claimed that they had filmed they had actually filmed. Let
me take this down. This is annoying. They had actually
filmed the Kentucky hell hellhound in Pike County, Kentucky and
in other counties of Kentucky. They said that it weighs
a about four hundred to five hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Now, I've never seen a dog that is four hundred
to five hundred pounds in my entire life, unless unless
that thing I saw on the side of the road
might have been looked kind of didn't look like that,
look like this kind of right there had a face
like that on it. But it said it's approximately four
feet tall seven feet long, and it has a blue
black blue black fur on it, and it has ridge

(01:32:26):
of hair along its back. It's paws or large, and
beer like the hellhound prefers to eat farm animals, which
is the main reason the Mountain Losters team went and
looked for it. And so anyways, that's about the Kentucky hellhound, y'all,
hold on, get out of here, go away. Sorry, I
throw my pen at my dog, y'all. I love her

(01:32:47):
to death, but I'm okay. So anyways, the Kentucky hell
hound four hundred pounds to five hundred pounds of a dog.
I think the Kentucky hell hound just might be a
dog man. And you'll know that we have a lot
of reports out of Kentucky of dog men, especially at
the Land between the lakes. That is where the land
between the lakes resides. I guess you say it resides there,

(01:33:10):
but that is there. And so I think this has
been a fantastic conversation today, and I want to thank
everybody for being here, and so thank you guys so
much for your attention for all this time. And of course,
my dog just started crying and my son's not helping me.
So I'm going to go today, y'all, okay, and I'm
going to see you guys back here on Wednesday. Okay,

(01:33:34):
on Wednesday, will be back on a glitch in the matrix.
And I wanted to thank Marine. She said, get your
tater logs and chicken fingers. Thank you for that super sticker. Marine.
You and Gus was. It was really fun getting hang
out with you guys over on Saint Pete at the
Full Disclosure Now conference. I do appreciate you guys so
much for being there and for coming to hang out

(01:33:55):
with us, and it was a fantastic conference, So thank
you so much. And yeah, I don't know, I hope
everybody learned something today, and I know I always do
every time I come on these shows. And I was
super excited to have Mike here, and so thank you
guys so much for spending your Monday with me here
talking about Appalachian devil dogs, black dogs and dog man encounters.

(01:34:19):
And yes, also shout out to everybody who's here today
who hung out with us at that conference last week.
And I do have another conference coming up. The World
UFO Conference will be August the second. It's on a Saturday.
So yeah, live shows from here on out, it's gonna
be a great week, y'all. I got a bunch of
good shows lined up already for us. So please be

(01:34:41):
safe out there, y'all. Okay, be safe out there. Don't
live in fear. And if you have a beautiful black
dog at home, like I do, I have a beautiful
black German shepherd and sometimes when she needs a treat
or she wants to go out, her eyes turn red.
I'm just kidding, they know. Anyways, Yeah, you know what,
I feel bad. Okay, I do want to say this.

(01:35:03):
This is like deep thoughts, So Jessica right now. If
you'll ever seen those videos like on TikTok where people
film their dogs and they're like, something's wrong with my
dog s Walker and their dog like begging to get
in the house or whatever, and they're like, no, it's
a skill. I just I feel so bad for those dogs, y'all.
I just feel so bad for the dogs. I don't
believe one second those dogs are s Walker's. I think

(01:35:26):
they're just trying to get views on TikTok. That's my opinion. Okay.
So anyways, on that note, I'm going to leave y'all
with that today. And so yeah, don't don't be pretending
like your animals are s Walkers and putting it on TikTok.
That makes me sad. Okay. Those dogs just want love
and they want to get inside your house. Okay, But anyways,

(01:35:47):
y'all have a wonderful day, and Marie, thanks again for
that supersticker. You're the best. And uh oh and Jojo Awaken,
thank you so much for that supersticker as well. I
appreciate your support. You guys are so sweet and it's
much appreciated. I hope you guys have a wonderful day
and uh and keep your head on a swivel, don't
live in fear, and come back and see me on Wednesday.

(01:36:07):
I'll be back Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday this week with
live shows for you guys. So all right, until then,
I will see y'all. Then, all right, I yell, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
So, it's so, it's it's it's

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