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September 10, 2024 83 mins
On this episode of The Cryptid Huntress Live, Author John Vandeventer joins Jessica to discuss CERN and the large hadron collider, and the implications of what is REALLY going on at CERN. Is it science or Satanism? Is it particle collision or could it be portal channeling? And are dark entities being summoned to wreak havoc on the world?

John Vandeventer is originally from Plano Texas. He is a sixteen-year veteran of the United States Air Force. His lifelong love of military aviation history and his interest in UFOs has always made him an avid reader. His other hobbies include target shooting and more recently writing has become an enjoyable pastime for him. The author’s first novel RELICS was first published in 2017 after he spent a little over two years writing the novel and researching the topic of Sasquatch as he wrote. In 2018 the author and his wife moved to Honobia Oklahoma in the heart of Oklahoma Sasquatch Country.

John has been a guest on several Bigfoot and Paranormal Podcasts. He was also a guest speaker at The Honobia Bigfoot Festival in 2018, he also served as MC for the 2021 Honobia Bigfoot Festival and will return to MC again in 2022. In 2021 J

ohn became an active writer again, after meeting and signing with Empire Publishing. RELICS: The Dark Autumn, (Second Edition), and RELICS II: The Honobia Remnant, both published in the last quarter of 2021. In February of 2022, John decided to retire and devote himself to being a fulltime author. He started a Young Adult Series title SHADOW CHASERS, the first offering of this series The Rock Creek Wildman, published in June 2022, to great reviews. RELICS III: Lair of the Ancients, will be John’s second new book of 2022, and the finale of the RELICS series.

John hopes to have the next SHADOW CHASERS book, Haunted Sky released in time for Christmas 2022. John released his third Shadow Chasers book "Curse of the Ishkitini" in June of 2023. In December 2023 John released his seventh book was released in December 2024. It is the flagship for his next trilogy. NAPHAL "The Channeling" The story brings a new spiritual warfare twist to the alien invasion genre and it will into the Relics trilogy. 

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, Good Monday afternoon, everybody. It's the Crypton Huntress. I'm
Jessica Jones and I'm going to take you guys so
much for joining me on my very first Monday afternoon
show here on the Channel. We're gonna have a really
good time today. Man, I got one of my favorite
people in the whole world is here with us today.
I have mister John Benda Benter here in the studio today.

(01:17):
Y'all know John. He's the author of the Relics series
and just came out with a new book recently. It's
it's been a few months, but Nate Paul okay, and uh,
we're gonna be talking about something that is covered in
his book. We're gonna be talking about CERN, the large
Hadron colliders and what's going on at CERN. What is
being conjured? Is it a large hadron? Are they looking

(01:39):
for the god particle? Are they looking to summon demons
or something? Okay, and uh, we have some good arguments
to make today, and uh it's gonna be a fantastic discussion. Yes, Smedley,
do right, it's a Cern Monday. Don't be concerned, y'all.
It's gonna be a good show. I promise and uh,
and so I wanted to thank everybody who came out

(02:02):
to the East Tennessee Squatch out this weekend. I made
some of the best friends over there. I saw a
bunch of my old friends on a bunch but a
few of my old friends there and we had a
wonderful time. I was able to give a presentation on
Saturday night, right before Lorie Wade gave her a presentation.

(02:23):
She's with BFROO and man, it was beautiful out there.
We stayed at a place called Sasquatch Farm over in
East Tennessee. I think it's in South Pittsburgh. I highly
recommend this place, y'all. If you got an RV, if
you want to go camping, you can do tent camping.
I think I have a picture of my son and
a kayak. Oh there he is in a canoe. I
did not check that picture. He might be shooting a bird,

(02:45):
I hope not. Also, we had some great friends that
showed up there. We got Mark Lynch, I got Greg there.
He joined us at the UFO conference. I got flat
Rock Boogers, y'all know flat Rock, A bunch of y'all
that are in here today, and of course, Wayne Tawthrow
of Manimal Research was responsible for putting that together. And uh,

(03:06):
and we just had a great time and I wanted
to share just some foot Oh that's me with no makeup.
Shouldn't have put that in there. Okay, But this third
we had a stage and everything and fire pits around
the around the stage. And if so, if you ever
have an outdoor event that you're gonna be doing, go
to Sasquatch Farm over in South Pittsburgh, Tennessee. I am

(03:28):
not sponsored by them. There's me and Laurie and Wayne.
I'm not sponsored by them, but I am taking sponsorships.
Oh gosh, uh and uh and I would love to
go back there. There was so much to do, not
a dull moment at all. And so shout out to
everybody that I met. Our blue Eyed Northern's in here.

(03:48):
Hey lady got to hang out with her this weekend
as well. So shout out to everybody who was there,
all of our fellows, Sasquatch lovers. Okay, we're all, we're
all enthusiasts, and I can't wait to see y'all again
very soon. All right, well, this is this is okay
On the Monday Show, y'all. I did want to do
kind of like an update of the weekend because y'all
know I do a lot of research, and so that

(04:10):
was that was my update what I did this weekend.
Next week, you guys, come back and see me. Next Monday,
I will be going down to I don't know if
it's a secret or not, but I'm going down going
down to Elkins Creek. I'm going to be doing some
exploring down there. That's where of the famous Elkins Creek
Bigfoot cast was made down there, and so we're going
to We're gonna go check that out and and I'll

(04:33):
have an update for y'all next Monday. As a matter
of fact, I met David Is with Bigfoot Forensics. He
camped out next to me this weekend, so I got
to meet him. He actually takes print handprints and footprints
and analyzes them, and so I'm going to make sure
he comes on the show soon and we're going to

(04:54):
talk to him. I did show him some really cool
pictures that we have. I showed him David Pardue's pictures
of the handprint on the bathroom unit out at the
National Forest of in North Carolina. He was here's I
think here's impressed with those. Okay, and Adolph, if you're
in the chat. Adolf's been on the show with ten
eleven O two, that documentary where he and his friends

(05:14):
were potentially abducted by ET's. I showed him that handprint
that was on your truck as well, and he was
pretty impressed with that one too. So with the permission
of those people, I might if they'll let me send
those over to David for more analysis. He said he'd
do it for free. Okay, So shout out to David

(05:35):
with Bigfoot Forensics. You rock as well. Okay. Well, man,
we got a great chat already going, and thank you guys.
Like I said, it's Monday, that's our first show, so
I want to thank everybody for being here. Surprise, we're
live on Mondays now. Okay, we're live on Mondays. Okay,
So let's get to our show today because I have

(05:56):
John Vendaventer back and man, we're going to be talking
about something other than Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And I know John is known for his Bigfoot series
it's called Relics, where he ties in a little bit
of UFO activity. His new book Nepaul is about well,
it's about a lot of stuff, but it does revolve
around the large Hadron collider and contact with extraterrestrials, even
potentially SURN being used like a big old Wigi board

(06:24):
to conjure stuff up. I do support that theory. I
support it, and so let's get into this today. Let
me introduce John to you guys. Yeah, oh, the questions
that he was posing about this, by the way, or
is it science or satanism? Is it particle collision or

(06:44):
could it be portal channeling? Or dark entity is being
summoned through PORNURN? Oh my god, I'm gonna say a
portal and I kind of got those us together. Dark
entity is being thumbed through CERN, a portal at CERN.
That that could have come out bad, all right, And

(07:05):
I do believe that they could be. And I do
have some personal stories that I have heard. I'm not
going to we're not going to get two detail into this,
but I have heard that dark entities have been potentially
summoned through CERN. John Van Deventer is originally from Plano, Texas.
He's a sixteen year veteran of the United States Air Force.

(07:27):
His lifelong love of military aviation theory and his interest
in UFOs has always made him an avid reader. His
other hobbies include target shooting, and more recently, writing has
become an enjoyable pastime for him. His first novel, Relics,
was first published in twenty seventeen. He spent over two
years writing the novel and researching the topic of Sasquatch

(07:48):
as he wrote. In twenty eighteen, he and his wife
moved to Hanobe, Oklahoma, in the heart of Oklahoma Sasquatch Country.
He's been a guest on several bigfoot and paranormal podcasts
included and it was a guest speaker at the Hanobia
Hanobi Bigfoot Festival in twenty eighteen. He emceed the twenty
twenty one Hanobi Bigfoot Festival is going to be h

(08:10):
He mceed the twenty twenty two one as well. He
is He's written the Relics series. There's three books to
that series. Also, he has a young adult series called
The Shadow Chasers where he's written books like The Ishkatini,
The Curse of the Ishkatini, and Shadow Chasers as well.

(08:31):
And now his book The Channeling nepaul I Have It
Right Here has come out. This is a great book.
All of John's books are fantastic, so please get your copies.
You can get them by going to relicbook dot com
and get your own copy of that. But the Nepaul
The Channeling brings a new spiritual warfare twist to the

(08:52):
alien invasion genre, and it's also part of the Relics trilogy.
Get the book. We're going to talk about some of
the stuff that's in his book because it has real
world implications and it ties in with a lot of
the stuff that we talk about here on the channel often.
Please help me. Welcome to the show our good friend

(09:13):
John Vendaventer.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Hey, good afternoon, John. So I get to be your
first guest on this new Monday show. Didn't I? I
closed down a show with you too at one time?
Didn't I?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
You did?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
John?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I almost forgot about that. You were my finale. You
were the final guests at kg or a digital broadcast sing.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I get to be the first in the last.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh gosh, what if that shows you how special you
are to me?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
John? It does well. I appreciate being on this this afternoon.
It sounds like you had quite a good time over
the weekend. We got a little fall weather here in
the Kai. Meet you mountains. In fact, it's nice outside
right now, ready for somewhere to kind of just walks away.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Oh man, Yeah, the weather cooled off here. It actually
was really cold out in the mountains in South Pittsburgh, Tennessee,
East Tennessee over the weekend. So at night we were
wearing hoodies and it felt so good. Everybody had on
jackets and hoodies and we sat around the campfires and
in the mornings it was cold, but then it got
really hot during the day. So there was a lake where,
you know, my son went and jumped in the lake

(10:20):
and did some swimming.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah, so it was when it was in a ride
and jumped off a bridge into the tigers. It's just
something Sun's got to do.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yes, Well, I was actually on a canoe and he
kept grabbing onto my canoe while he was swimming, and
I thought he was going to flip me over several times.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
But he.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
We held it down. It was all good. So and
we were out there with so many great people. John,
I don't know about you, but what I've experienced with
the Bigfoot community is that everybody is so cool. Okay,
there may be people that aren't cool, And I haven't
met him yet. Okay, I've met. Everybody that I've met
has been fantastic. I made some of the best friends

(11:01):
over the weekend and very supportive and some of the
people that I started off bigfooting with, I mean, we're
like family today. What what's what is it? What's it about?
Is it just like our guess, our our love of
something weird.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
The common ground that creates a common bond.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
So yeah, I guess all that being out in the
woods and being stinky together brings you together. Those people
that get stinky together stay together. Okay, there you go.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well that's a nice thing about living in a place
like Hanobe. If you want to do bigfoot research, you
can just you know, go a mile or two away
from the house, do what you need to do, come back, shower,
and sleep in your own bed at night.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
So yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And I'm like, no, I don't want to go camping.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh no, they had showers there. That was actually it
kind of it kind of molds in my trip because
I was like, I was presenting and I know how
how stinky and gross I can get if we're out
there big footing we don't have showers, And I and
I asked Wayne I said, well, do they at least
have showers so I can you know, I can come
in an extra day before and I don't have to
worry about being gross, you know, I'm up there in

(12:15):
front of people and uh and he was like, yeah,
they have nice showers actually, so uh if they had
little trailers that had showers and bathrooms, I mean full
bathrooms in them, and uh, super impressed. I was super
impressed at this place and I I would definitely go back.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, the camping experience is on the rise stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah it is, it is. And people could take their
RVs too, but I don't have an r V, not yet.
So uh so we stayed in the tent and it
was awesome. So shout out to everybuddy from the from
the squash out this weekend. And I do see some
of y'all in the chat. What's up? Okay, Yes, we're
gonna be making Monday's great again. See this comment? Thank you, Marien.

(13:00):
That's you know what, that's not mind.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't want. I don't know how you'd say that
make Monday's great?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, m m G.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Hey yeah, oh heck yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well okay, so John, I've read Okay, I've read your book.
I'm almost finish with it. Love this book so much.
You're talking about you bring cern into this, okay, into
this mix. And I saw somebody in the chat before
we went live saying, oh, here it is. It just
happens to be right here, hey, or so or so
it says Jessica's entities look suspiciously like the Miami Mall reports.

(13:40):
I did that on purpose, or so I did it
on purpose because I was feeling that because some say
that those entities were channeled through a portal that came
out of a portal inside that mall. Okay, and uh
and I have had a lot of discussions about things
that have been cont I'm just say con summoned maybe

(14:04):
produced whenever they're turning this large hatred collider on, I
don't know, or any kind of portal opens, okay, because
we deal with portals out in the field. What do
you think is going on? John? What's going on with some.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
They've been around since nineteen fifty four, and I don't
think anybody really heard about them until they got the
large Hadron collider. And you know, in Lagman's terms, I guess,
and I'm not a physicist, you know, I couldn't. I
couldn't add up their lunch fee. But it's like they're

(14:42):
wanting to open these small, microscopic black holes. And I
think that's when people started getting concerned, and that, of course,
you know, along with you know, statue as she was
showing up and some other things you're about to get into.
But you know, people were afraid of them opening a
black hole. People are afraid of them making a terror

(15:03):
in a dimensional tear or a tear in the veil
between dimensions. They're worried about them causing earthquakes. They're worrying
that time travelers can use it to come back and
savogage history. You know, some are just straight up worried
that they're going to make a gateway to help. So
there's a lot of people with a lot of theories

(15:25):
and a lot of things are worried about since they've
been doing this, And you know, I don't know anything
about particle physics, but I would think what they're doing
is every bit is dangerous as producing the first atomic bomb.
You know, they had a thing they called tickling the
dragon where they could just about get a reaction, and

(15:48):
one day it got away from them. And they lost
a couple of physicists and stuff out there where they
were working on that. So you know, you gotta be
careful with this stuff. And just because you can't do
it doesn't always mean you should.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
So that's true, that's true. What's concerning for me, there's
a lot of things concerning for me. Concerning Cern. There
was a little boy that was he put there's a
video out of this little kid, and he was probably
I'm gonna say twelve or thirteen, maybe fourteen, and he
was talking about how Cern the first time they turned

(16:24):
on Cern, or some point they turned on Curn, the
dimension shifted, and I think he said something about like
the Earth of our dimension, like Earth disintegrated or something
happened to where it was no more the reality that
we lived in was no more. So we had to
shift into another timeline, okay. And it was because of CERN.

(16:47):
I can remember seeing that, and I thought, man, that
is that's wild, because it wasn't it. Was it twenty
twelve or is it twenty twelve? I think I was
twenty twelve. Wasn't that when that may be wrong, but
was that when the Aztec calendar was they said into the.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
World, Well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Okay, Well do you think that do you think that
could have happened? I mean, is that is that somebody
you've ever heard or discussed her?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well? I've never heard about it. But the thing of
it is, if you do open a portal between dimensions,
what's going to come in? And can we get it
to lead? Do you remember the old It was a
Stephen King short story and they made a movie out
of it, The Missed Did you ever see that? Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yes, the mess because.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Scenario right there, and what could happen with certain you know?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Stephen King puts a lot of really spooky stuff out there,
and that's probably real. It's probably real. I don't know
even the clowns, you know what I mean? I mean,
who knows the clown sewers and all that. I'm not
going into sewer, don't worry. No, I'm not planning to
do any krypt hunt in a sewer.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
I was just thinking about that. There's a meme out
there shows the clown from it and it says, are
you scared the clowns? And Hannibal lecterter goes No, I
just think they taste funny. The Hannibal lector is a
bigger threat than the clowns.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. That's awesome. I'm not I'm
not a huge fan of clowns. Myself and and my
buddy Tony Merkle had put out a show recently about
the Nephelum clowns. Okay, so y'all go watch that if
you get a chance. It's pretty interesting. There may be
a connection though.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
So Joe Parker's in the chat too, what's up, Joe?
He was at the at the squash out this weekend.
I had so much fun hanging out with you and
your crew and it was so wonderful, good times. Thank
y'all for being here today too. And Blue Eyed Northern,
thank you so much. She was there as well. We
all sat around the fire on Saturday night and had
some good talks. So awesome. Okay, well, okay, let's see

(19:05):
where are we going with this? Okay?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, you know, as you said, one of the first
things people started freaking out about, sirn was the opening ceremony.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Okay, let's start layered in. Okay, let's do this opening
ceremony Because Dan is in the chat. Dan had said
that what really concerned him. Was that opening ceremony? And
I know you were posing the question over the weekend,
is uh, is this satanic?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Is what they're doing satanic? And now I know scientists
all over the world is very this is all very scientific.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
There's they're trying to find the God particle and they've
got this huge machine INCERNS, Switzerland, and they're they're trying
to what is it, John, they're trying to recreate the
Big bankor excuse me, like the Big Bank theory, right
or what happened right? Record? Yeah, okay, let me let
me read Okay, this is all from the SERNS website.

(19:57):
SERNS website, and I want to note that they do
recognize the ALICE program in this what I'm going to
read you guys Now, ALICE is based out of East Tennessee,
where I was this weekend at the Oakridge Lab. Okay, So,
the Large Had Collider the LHC is the world's largest

(20:17):
and most powerful particle accelerator. It first started up on
the tenth of September two thousand and eight and remains
the latest addition to CERN's accelerator complex. It consists of
a twenty seven kilometer ring of superconducting magnets with a
number of accelerating structures to boost the energy of the
particles along the way. Inside it, they have two high
energy particle beams. They travel close to the speed of

(20:40):
light before they're made to collide. The beams travel in
opposite directions and separate beam pipes two tubes kept at
ultra high vacuum. They're guided towards the accelerator ring by
a strong magnetic field maintained by superconducting electro magnets. They're
built from coils of special elae electric cable to operate

(21:01):
in a superconducting state, conducting electricity without resistance or loss
of energy. See it, have a super cold temperature and
they are connected to a distribution system of liquid helium
which cools the magnets as well as supply of their services.
Thousands of magnets different different varieties and sizes are used

(21:24):
to direct the beams around the accelerator. Let me pull
up a picture of this while I'm talking about it.
The particles says, just prior to collision. Another type of
magnet is used to squeeze the particles closer together to
increase the chances of collisions. They're so tiny that the
task of making them collide as akin to firing two
needles ten kilometers apart, with such precision that they meet halfway.

(21:51):
It services and technical infrastructure are housed under the one
roof at the CERN Control Center. The beams inside the
LHC are made to collide at four locations around the
accelerator being corresponding to the positions of four particle detectors ATLAS, CMS, Alice,
and LHCb. That's what the inside of one of those

(22:16):
accelerators looks like right there.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Did you notice it look like the Mayan catlendar?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
It does?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
It?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Does you know what else it looks like? This is
from the Olympics opening ceremony right here. I think that
that stadium kind of looks like a large hadron collider
as well, if you.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Were eighteens Olympics.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
I thought I was twenty eighteen, but it could have
been this year. I have no idea. I just found it.
It says Olympic Ceremonies. I think it could be twenty,
but I'm not sure. I have to I have to
do some more digging on that, because I just found that,
and I was like that looks like CERN so, and
there's some weird stuff going on with CERN, all right,
And I did mention the large hadron collider that there's

(22:58):
there have always been rumor that there was a large
hadron collider underneath Oakridge Labs, as well as other locations
across the United States. And it's really odd that, you know,
we're told about this one and they have this really
weird opening ceremony for it. I found it. I found
it very you you were asking about it being satanic.

(23:19):
I think I think it could be. See it could be.
I'm going to show some pictures of that opening ceremony
in just a second. But I have been told, okay,
I've heard rumors, let's just say rumors that there are
large hadron colliders all over the United States as well,
and there if you go to the Oakridge Lab, the

(23:39):
Oakridge Labs website, it does say that they work with
CERN in Switzerland on the Alice project and Alice stand.
I don't know exactly what it stands for, but it's
a l I ce so. A l UH is a
large hadron, a large ion. I think it's like a
large ion collider, Okay, a large ion collider I'm not

(24:02):
sure if it's Hadron, it says i'd ion I think,
so look it up. Okay, y'all look it up and
you'll see the connection in there. So let's look into
why they have this, John, Okay, and let's start with
that opening ceremony, and then I want to I want
to get into the connections you make in your book
as well with what they're contacting and what what the

(24:25):
real purpose is of this. But back in what is It?
Two thousand and eight, it had this really weird ceremony
and it was right there in Switzerland at the It
was almost like at the mouth of a cave. I think,
did you watch this, John?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
No? No, I didn't. I heard about it after the fact.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Okay, I have Uh, let's see, well that way, that's
not it. I had some other pictures and I must
not have pulled them up, But there are other pictures
where it actually looks like entities are coming out of
a portal. Okay, Uh? But had Pan who is Pan? Pan?
Is like supposed to be kind of like I want

(25:07):
to say, is it Lucifer or Baffa Mett? I guess
it's baff Met right, Yeah, was dancing and all these people,
they looked like they were they look like ghosts or
zombies coming out of this collider. Very paganistic. Let's just
say paganistic would be the term for what happened during
that opening ceremony. But at some point I do remember

(25:29):
that it looked like a portal because things started spinning.
When you're watching, you can you can actually pull that
ceremony up online, look it up on YouTube. They have
it looks like the hadrink collider and these all these
things keep coming out of this. They just keep pouring
out of this Hadron collider, and it's people dress up
like entities. People dress up and like like goat men, okay,
goat min ghosts, zombies. There was at one point where

(25:52):
it looked like ghosts were floating out of it. Okay,
that's not very wholesome to me, No, it's not. No,
what did What do you think about that? John? And
why why would they put that on full display? As
though I mean cultural, you think, like maybe in Switzerland, but.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
I don't know why they would put that on full display. Now,
you know, I'm a Christian and I notice that you know, uh,
people like the mock Christians. You know, I'm gonna understand.
Christianity has been given a bad name in history. You know,

(26:31):
there's things done by the Church and this and that,
But as a basic spiritual belief and you're in your
own relationship with the Creator and with with Jesus, you know,
you're you know, it's it's an inward thing and it's
a thing to improve. You know, you're not perfect. But

(26:52):
for some reason that the thing is out there that
we think we're perfect. Maybe that's why they do these
things that have been or maybe you know, uh, if
you go back and look at ancient times, like look
at when the Israelites were being freed and Moses made

(27:16):
his staff into a snake, and the other the clerics
for the Egyptian Payroab made their status in the snakes.
And I remember watching that movie as a kid, said, well,
this god is real, that these other gods don't exist,
so how can they worship them? Well I didn't really
you still reading back in history, those gods were there,

(27:38):
and I believe they were the fallen angels, and you
know they pos as gods. They come as they you know,
they'll come as aliens, will come and say they're the creator,
as they do in my book. So yeah, I believe
you probably have people that actually worshiped these entities. Probably

(27:58):
it's probably always gone on as long as you know
there's been humans. We're all looking for a higher power,
and you know we find them where we find them.
Some people find them there, other people find them like
where I do or somebody else. But I think there

(28:19):
be an influence to do that by these entities, is
my my opinion.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Oh, we have an insider in the chat. We have
tearan here in the chat who says watching from Oakridge.
All of those there's always somebody in the chat that
may have a little inside watching from Oakridge. All of
those rumors are very hush hush in this area.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm sure they are. Another thing too, if you look
at the open ceremonies of this past Olympic, where it
was basically mocking you know, the the Lord's Supper, the
Final you know Stuft with the you know, it's just

(29:03):
and and they were bringing their own style of entity
into worship. So you know, it's an ongoing thing, and
you know it can happen anywhere. And they may say, oh,
it wasn't real, it was just a spoof, but you know,
you have to wonder because they're doing it right in

(29:24):
front of your face. They'll do things right in front
of your face and then come to find out years later, No,
it wasn't spoof. They actually meant to do it. And
don't ask me who they are, by the way, But
it is the nature. It is the nature of humans too, too. Push,

(29:44):
push their personal agenda, push their beliefs. We're human, we
do that.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, but there's a very what seems to be a
pretty dark agenda, and I think it all boils down
to potentially, well, first of all, it's power and control, greed,
and I don't know transhumanism. Potentially, they're dealing.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
With language right now. Look how many words? You know,
If you say something now, it's automatically offensive and you
got to watch everything you say and accept other people's
viewpoints even if they're not yours, even though they're not
going to accept your viewpoint. You know, it's it's it's
been a slow trickling of of of tyranny, basic tyranny.

(30:39):
You know, we can't even talk anymore. You know, it
used to be the freedom of speech was sacred and
now one word you can say things in England now
or you can post things on Facebook and go to jail,
and you know, let's come into a country near you.
It could happen to us real soon. And this trickle
is it's finally built where it's overflowing the dam, and

(31:05):
you know, it's it's apparent in our daily lives.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So it is, well, I think it's something that's keeping
that kind of pushback for now from US Americans. Is
we still have our guns.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Most of us do, especially here in the South. Okay,
but but it is, it's it's a it's a it's
an attempted total takeover. Okay, I'm just gonna say it.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Wisconsin pressure like the lava coming up through a volcano
or mathma. You know, sooner or later, you know, the
pressure is just there there there, and it keeps coming
up a little bit of time to explodes. And so
like there was a you know, do you haven't picture
of the statue of Shiva? I sent you that.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Let's pull it up. See I actually have a couple
of pigures of Shiva here. Let's pull up the one
that you sent.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Okay, so you've got this. And now this was a
gift from India, too certain for their you know, their collaboration,
so it's a gift. But do you think they'd be
allowed like if they'd have worked with some other entities, say,
say the Vatican, do you think they'd be allowed to
have a have a crucifix there? You know, it's we're

(32:31):
very friendly to the to the to the other the
other side, I should say. Now, Shiva represents the creation
of the universe, but Sheva also represents the end of
the universe. And I think the statue so much. Isn't

(32:51):
that profound? I mean, it's there, it's a gift from India.
Why not. Now they said it was a spoof, But
in twenty sixteen to twenty sixteen, there was a ritual
hell there where they supposedly sacrifice a woman and people, yeah,
there you go, and people went nuts over that, and
they came back and said, no, there wasn't a real sacrifice,

(33:14):
and the whole thing was a hoax put on by
some of the Sun workers to kind of poke fund
and conspiracy theorists. Okay, personally I think it was done
on purpose, but that's my own personal belief. Also, if
it was just a spoof, you still shouldn't do stuff
like that. It's like playing with the Wiji board. You know,

(33:36):
you don't know what you're gonna conjure up or you know.
I remember as a kid playing with a Wigi board
and think nothing about it. Luckily nothing did happen. But
then you hear about things happened to other people, you know,
teenagers and stuff that are playing with them. Heck, I
remember my brother sent my kids to Wigi board for Christmas.

(33:57):
Oh no, we didn't open it until Christmas. It sat
there for a couple of weeks after Christmas street and
I remember one of the kids opening it. I saw
it to give me that. I took it and threw
it out in the trash and they're like, Dad, I said,
I'll get you something else, but we're not having ex.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That was a horrible Christmas present. I'm just saying no
offense to their uncle.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Well, I don't think can put a lot of thought
into it. What can I grab and send the two stones?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So yeah, if somebody gave my son a Ouiji board,
I would probably do the same, or actually I would
pass it along to one of my ghost hunting friends
that would could put it to you. They're not allowed
in my house. Okay, that war is just not allowed
in the house because I know it scared me when
I was fifteen, I used one one time with one

(34:41):
of my friends at her house and uh we we
ran out of the house screaming and threw the board
out and sat on her mom's car until her parents
came home from work that day. We were scared.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
It was one weird incident with one with my sister
once and it spelled something that I'd even know what
it was. She wanted to get it out that, you know.
After that rituals serns, you know, their leadership and PR
went into damage control, you know, to say, hey, it
was just a hoax. It was it wasn't it wasn't anything,

(35:16):
you know, but a joke pointed it at a conspiracy theory.
So but you have to wonder was it was It.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Was secret though, Okay that that ceremony that I just showed,
that was somebody I think it was somebody that said
they were working later or so janitor or somebody in
an adjacent building secretly took that video. Now it could
be that it was set up, but the chances are,
I mean, we know there are secret societies. We know

(35:49):
that there are in the elite, the elite with little
e I like to say, are performing ceremonies. I mean,
we've got all this stuff going on with the ritual sacrifices,
people underground, the kidnappings, the missing for one one, all
these mass disappearances, mass kidnappings, whatever's going on here. There's
some sort of really dark stuff going on in the world.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Go ahead and have the blue seren emblem I sent
you you six six six, You see it?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Oh, yeah, absolutely, I've always I've always seen that in
that uh and it looks like it's a could be
the hydrot hadrink collider.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
It hydron collider. But it's just funny that it's just
kind of out there. You're doing it in front of
your face and they don't care.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
You know, yes, it's it's right right in our faces there.
There's no there's no real hiding it. And just like
with that ritual that that picture, excuse me that I
just showed it. It's made it out to be a joke,
and even things like the Olympic ceremonies and all the

(37:05):
you know, Dennis Carrold in the chat, Hey, Dennis, Dennis
and I have talked a bunch about pop culture or
pop concerts. Okay, Taylor Swift, for instance, doing like basically
satanic rituals or like a black mass, like Madonna doing
like a black mass on stage or something.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well, have you ever seen anything like her? The following
she has? How just? I mean, I know, you know,
I remember when I was a little kid. You know,
I was probably six five or six when the Beatles came.
But I still remember the mania, beatlemania, you know, as
a little boy. And this is something completely different though,

(37:44):
And I mean I know that that they think it's harmless,
and they think she's this wonderful person. But I mean
it's like it's you know, now, it's it's got its
tentacles into the NFL, and and you know, there were
grown men that are Swift. I don't get it, you know,
I just I don't get where the control or the

(38:06):
just the uh, the worship of it comes from, you know.
And Dennis Carrol he may have something to say about that,
you know. I'm sure he's keeping an eye on it too. Oh.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yes, Scott is asking why has Tom Cruise not aged? Okay, well,
maybe the vampire. Maybe it's a vampire, who knows, Maybe
it's a cloning of vampirism. I don't know. Uh, you know,
we we've talked about on that on other shows before.
And there's just something so strange going on in the world.
And you know, even even with us getting more en

(38:38):
cryptid sightings and cryptied reports, and you know, I sat
around the campfire this weekend, we were talking about Gugway
and Old Green Eyes up at Chickamauga. I had a
few conversations about him and being you know, eating eating
dead corpses and stuff. I mean, once you get into
the cryptids, and I was out there with like boots
on the ground, longtime boots on the ground field research.

(39:01):
We have a lot of us know there's more than
just Bigfoot out there, and there's a something there could
be something that's kind of sinister and dark out there too.
I'm not saying Bigfoot is, but there's some dark entities
out there and things like this sern large Hadrian collider.
If you know, we see there's obviously an agenda. Okay,
I see an agenda. That's my opinion. There's an agenda

(39:24):
to for mind control the masses. You know, shove whatever
this ritualistic stuff is down our throats. Okay, and here,
h hello.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Head phone call?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Is that he'll call you back, Okay, But it's it's
it's almost like we're all this is in our faces.
Uh there there, I feel like we're rituals are being
performed upon the masses.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Oh, no doubt. You know, we're being told what to think,
We're being told what's good, we're being told what's bad.
And it's sped to us on a platter every day,
whether it's subliminently or just in your face. You know,
you can tell what the agenda is because it's being
pushed on you constantly. You know, look at have you

(40:18):
seen those things of the news media and and they're
all saying the exact same thing news anchor different parts
of the and it's the exact same drum beat. There's
no doubt we're being told what to think and how
to think and what's good and what isn't good, and
critical thinkers they're the enemy. Anybody that's not gonna, you know,

(40:42):
not just gonna swallow the bowl gruel. You're going to
be on the outside.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yes, that's right. And uh, that's a big comment there.
Thank you for your comment. Shall uh these are amazing.
We have some great ones in here. Yeah, it's uh, well, okay,
let's let's see news video that you're talking about. We
have something called the Mockingbird Media. Okay, so that's that's
the thing. Everybody can look that up. Most most of

(41:09):
us know what that is. But like I said, it's
all about control, controlling the narratives. And U and one
of one of my Okay, I I don't care if
you guys. I mean, I do care, but I don't
care people think about me when I say that. I've
always really liked Alex Jones. Okay, I'm a fan, okay.
And because he's put out the stuff way, he's way

(41:32):
ahead of his time, okay. And and he's on Info Wars.
I know I was probably gonna end up in that
algorithm today. It's gonna put my video down for even
talking about him. But at some point, he said, and
I saw it so wild because I saw a clip
of this this morning and I put it in my
stories on my Instagram because he was like, I don't
care how crazy you think I am. He said, it's

(41:53):
the he said, it's all demons. He said, like the
Bible says, it's an intergalactic invasion into this and to
this space through people. It's what the ancients warned of.
It's what we're dealing with their demons, innerdimensional demons he
was talking about. I assumed he was talking about something

(42:13):
like certain opening up portals where they're bringing in these demons.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
And you know, like I got into big poot right
for a bit. But UFOs were always my thing from
a little kid, and about six years ago I came
to a conclusion, you know, that it's not from outer space.
I think everything's from I think everything's dimensional travel. And

(42:41):
because we never see those things out around satur in
the water. Now we've seen something around the moon, but
we never see him coming. They're just here. How are
they getting here, you know, without us knowing? And my
theory is too I think not too much demons. I
think technology is angel technology, fallen angel technology. I think

(43:06):
that's who makes the shift uses the ships. Now they
may use demons, you know, as the grays in my books,
and grays are really demonic. They're just bio suits that
demons can take, that they can possess, you know, so
they can move in the physical world. But that that's

(43:29):
my take on the whole thing. And I just, uh,
you know, people use word demons loosely. There's a big
difference between a demon and a fallen angel, and uh,
to me that that's what it's all about. It's it's
a seed war. It goes back to Genesis when God

(43:53):
told the serpent, your seed will be an enity with
the seat of the woman. That's what the Netlin work.
It was this seed where it was to wipe out
the godly gene and infect the entire human race with
this with angel genetics. So you know, the flood was
as much about wiping out the nephilin as it was sin.

(44:15):
You know, if God's going to destroy the world for sin,
we're worse than they were packed in. You know, we'd
always tread and water right now. But and then, like
Joshua and Caleb were told to co host tribes. I
always thought that was cruel before I came with christian
Then I figured out those tribes were nephilm and you

(44:35):
gotta wipe out that seed. It's all a seed board,
it's all dark. Those are my beliefs. That's my opinion.
You know, people will have differing opinions. I respect that.
I don't expect you to take mine just from my studies.
That's the conclusions I've come to. And I think cerns
just like you know, nothing more than a way to communicate,

(44:59):
a way, a way to make a It's it's like
a modern day Tower of Babbel. We're trying to find
a way to become like the God, to be one
with the gods. That's what it's all about in the
long run. And if we can make contact with them, great, that.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Is really interesting. I have a lot to say about
this too, puck Elf. I want to thank you so
much for that supersticker. That's so sweet of you. Light
flaming sphere who said goblin. Okay, I don't know what
that means, but thank you. That's very sweet of you.
And yeah, I've got yeah, y'all are talking about Alex
by the way, Yes, he was braving. He's been brave

(45:39):
enough to talk about a lot of stuff or so okay,
a lot of things, and and everybody laughed at him
and it was it was funny, but then it turned
out to be true. And that's kind of what they're
that's kind of what they bet on. Okay, they're betting
on things being so outrageously outrageous. Okay, that we just
don't believe it and we don't take any action against

(46:00):
it because it's like, no, that can't be real. Why
would they do that to us? But here we are, here,
we are talking about the Nephilum.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
You know, I did a show recently about sleeping giants,
giants and stasis. Potentially some of the Nephalum giants. There's
a allegedly there's a tomb okay or some kind of
tomb I guess where like Gilgamesh was being held, hey,
and some of these giants, and it's said that they're

(46:33):
they're waking up today. Some people theorize that they're waking
up today for this very moment in time. I mean,
I know there's a lot going on, but could there
be some kind of connection to cern being turned on
and all these things kind of the dimensions overlapping and
things coming out, and you know, in the Giant of Candahar,
I know, I know, I'm kind of skipping around here,

(46:53):
but even with the Giant of Candahar, you know, I
believe that those soldiers went in there to go seeing
a sample of that those giants for cloning purposes. I
remoteviewed it. That was what the data said could be.
It also had off world implications and you know, off
planets civilization implications and stuff like people are going to

(47:16):
be going off planet. I think people go off planet
now and live. If that sounds weird.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You know, I think everything is happening. It's going to
come to a head eventually, you know it. It's called revelations.
But we're you know, we're uh, we're we're arrogant with
our science. I mean, science is a wonderful thing. Science

(47:43):
does bring knowledge, but sometimes we get a little arrogant
with where some of the scientists do because they they
they are trying to become godlike I think. And uh,
funny quote, man, I sent it to you from Stephen Hawkins.

(48:03):
You have that that you can throw up there?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I do. Let me take that. Sure, I was wondering
who that comment was from. I did not. Let's see
is this it?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
No? It is?

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I found it.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, in intelligent aliens could destroy humanity, but let's search
for them anyway. Okay, Now that's what I'm talking about.
Maybe we shouldn't search for them with the technology and
stuff we have, let them come to us because you know,

(48:40):
I know, like if you go in a chat room,
somebody will say, uh, something like why don't aliens make
contact with us? If they're there, why don't they stop
and talk? And then you get to people you know
that low the human race, and say, oh, well, would
you stop and talk to us? Look, we're competitive, we fight,
we war among each other, and they're probably too peaceful

(49:03):
for us. And you know, I think that's if there
are real aliens. I think if their life form are
like any other life form, and every life form has
to compete, it has to compete for resources, food space,
not just humans. We don't just fight among ourselves, as

(49:23):
fight among themselves, bison and everything. Everything is in competition,
not only with its own kind, but with every other
creature to survive and to pass on its genes and
pass on the species. I don't know of any even

(49:44):
vegetation competes for space. One plant will choke another one out.
So you can bet if aliens are real and they
show up, you can bet they have conquered quite a
few other life forms before they came in contact with us.
And I don't necessarily think they're people. Hopefully they are.

(50:05):
If they're out there, they could be. But it just
goes again. It's like the universal law survival is competition,
and it's and it's winning over your opponent for whatever resources.
It's not human mytorio, it's universal nature.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yes. Well, I often wonder where these aliens are coming from.
And I used to, like, like you said, I used
to think that aliens came from a space craft from
outer space. And that's what I believed, and I thought
was they're real. They came from UFOs from outer space.
But now with all this research that I'm doing, there's
remote viewing targets, I'm like you. I think they're interdimensional.

(50:45):
I think that they're accessing portals. I think they're being
I think that they could just go through rips and
time and space and be one place, one dimension to
the next. That's what I believe.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Well, I believe I believe that too. Someone was talking
about earlier. We never see him coming. They just kind
of appear. And something I mentioned in a couple of
my books, but if you look at a medieval incubus
or succubus attack on someone, and you look at a

(51:18):
modern date UFO abduction, other than the UFO itself, it's
the same story. Once they're in their clutchings, it's the same.
It's the same happening. So which is it? You know who?
You know? One of them they're trying to make us

(51:38):
think one thing, one of them are trying to make
us think another. But it's the same thing.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, this is actually a really good comment too.
Richard Goforth says they are here now, especially in our oceans.
And that's something that I've been hearing a lot lately.
And I theorized this as well, is that it teas
could be living in our ocean. So what if the
ocean is outer space?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Well, Richard's right, there are so many reports of you know,
them coming out the ocean, are entering into the ocean hotspot.
That's the Catalina Islands off California. They see a lot
of and yeah, he's right, that happens a lot.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Is that where they have Catalina wine mixers. I'm just
kidding they have from a movie. Oh man, there's a
song that goes with that too. So yeah, that's okay.
So Catalina, Well, I've actually had I had a friend
from my hometown from when we were kids. He has
good friends with my cousin. Okay, he hit me up
one day because he thought it was cool that I
was doing shows and on bigfoot and going out in

(52:43):
the woods and hunting bigfoot. And he hit me up
and he said that he was in the I believe
he's in the Navy for a long time. And uh,
and he told me that he's you know, he's a
woodsman too. But he was like, I just don't know
about bigfoot. And I've experienced a lot of stuff out there,
but my mind always goes to something different. I don't
want to believe this bigfoot, but I can't tell you.
I have watched with my own eyes UFOs going crashing

(53:07):
into the ocean and UFOs coming out of the ocean
from his Navy ship. He said it was I believe,
He said it wasn't that uncommon.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Actually, Well that you know, I've read a lot about
that that happened. It is. It is very common, you know,
and I think it's something people don't think about. You know.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Well, it's time for a wrong report.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
It's probably not a common activity, but it is a
common report.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
It is a common report. Well, and you you spent
many years in the US Air Force. Did you ever
experience anything any kind of UFOs in your service during
your service.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
There was something funny the runway one night in Austin, Texas.
But yeah, military police the sky Bobby's came along and
told us to move on. So I really, you know,
it could have been a blimp. We just saw this
black masks and it was searchlight. But I don't know.
I don't. I don't really think so, not while I
was in All my stuff happened after I got out.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yes, well you might not even tell me if you had,
so that's okay. I but I'm pretty sure you tell me,
you tell us. I mean, there's there's so many reports
of today we're getting more reports of UFOs. I feel
like I even was talking the other day about how
you can take three D glasses John, three D paper,

(54:35):
the paper kind, and you overlap and put two pairs
together and you staple them together. You put them on
and you can see UFOs in the sky.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Is that what? Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I don't know. I haven't tried it yet, but I've
heard it does. I've been told by several people at works.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Which have you heard of the Rinds and forest UFO
thing in England? Okay that happened that already have bent
Waters and and Woodbridge and I was stationed about sixty
five miles to the south at arip Upper Haybord, and
I remember we'd had a real rough autumn. The Polish

(55:13):
shipyard workers went on strike and we were one of
the nuclear There was only two nuclear weapon committed wings
us in Lake and Heave, so we were always on alert.
Then we had our NATO tack about, which was two
weeks of just good fun and it was so fun
we all collapsed when it was over. But so the

(55:34):
Christmas vacation time came around and we were supposed to
get these like I think it was seven days straight
that the wing was getting off, you know, so all
of a sudden it was twenty eight and bang the
arms go off. We'd go on alert. We're all going,
you know, have to report to duty, get the airplane ready,

(55:56):
blah blah. And I remember there was this old tech
sergeant and I was like, you know, I was, I
was just dumb. Two strokes. It said, what's going And
I think I just got my second stripe. On's going on?
We're supposed to get a break And he said all
the retards at Woodbridge and Lake or Bentwaters are getting

(56:18):
attacked by the saucer people, and I thought it was
a joke. And then years later I come back, you know,
and we all we ended up all, you know, going
back off dutey turned outd be no big deal. But
then years later I come back and I hear about
this Rendalsome forest and it's the same day. It's the
exact same day.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
No way.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah, I just thought that was funny that. Yeah, that's
my big UFO thing from the Air Force.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Oh so years later you realize that.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah, years later I'm watching and I'm like, wait a minute, yeah,
and uh. The funny thing is they always talk about
Bentwaters being in nuclear on base while they weren't. They
had the A ten, the A ten which I went
to after I left England. It's too slow to drop
a nuke. It couldn't get out of the way. We

(57:09):
had one eleven's which could deliver the nuke and get
away from the blast. But yeah, that's one thing they
always get that wrong. I see on those shows they're
always talking about their nuclear weapons there. No, they were
with us.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's another thing. Another place where UFOs
are often spotted are over nuclear nuclear war like war
sites and places like that. Weaponry sites. But what did
you call those like nuclear stacks, those towers like a plant,
nuclear plants? I guess, yeah, yeah, I've remote viewed a

(57:46):
couple of those before, and they were they were either
protecting or disabling them, And there's all sorts of weird
stuff goes on with those UFOs and those sites. Did
that inspire your book, your books, that Rendelstrom encounter?

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Actually no, if you read my books, like the first book,
straight up big books, second relics books, I bring in
the UFOs, but I go back to the golden age
of UFOs because I have an old character. He's in
his nearly ninety in the current story, but you know,
I kind of fade back to his youth when he
was a Navy pilot and he ends up getting involved

(58:25):
in Operation a high Jump, and during the investigations and
stuff they found there, he ends up going to Roswell
right after that happened, and meeting Kenneth Arnold right after
his sighting, and you know, it just kind of gives
a background for that character. So I like using those
old those old Flying Saucer reports and stuff from the

(58:46):
forties and fifties. I loved the whole history of the UFOs.
But for some reason, my favorite time just at time
forty fifties in early sixties. I don't know, things changed
after Pasca Goula and you did show on Pasca Goola.
It was like that was kind of the end of
that era, and then a few years later you had

(59:08):
Travis Walton into that. It's like things have been totally
different since then. You know, you had that guy that
what was that book communion, you know whether, Yeah, so
things it was like things became darker from Travis Walton
on I think, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
We talked about the Pasca Goula. That was something that
I had remote viewed as well. Yeah, and that was
the the guys who were there was another group like
mass abduction basically was it just two of them or
three guys? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
It's been a it was two guys, an elderly guy
and then the younger man and I think the younger
man still alive.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, And uh, well, you know we started
having these like the UFOs became like the Golden Age
of UFOs. The Golden Era is what they called it
was around the time at what was that the I
remote you that other thing. It was like the the UFOs. Oh,
the Battle of Los Angeles. Yeah, Los Angeles. That was

(01:00:09):
one of the first times where and when I was
Remober doing that I was seeing I thought it was
potentially not like I guess I could say it Nazi. Okay,
it was like a German UFO, I think. I think
it was like German.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
The Japanese at night.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah so, but but that's kind of I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Used a lot of that in my books, to the
German UFOs. And yeah, I even had to join the
Canavar in there. Just I was just running crazy with
that series. That's why I needed to get the fall
out in the fall series out in Town together so
it may make a little more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh, that kind of ushered all in.
I mean, a lot of UFO sightings after that abduction
started happening. You know, there are rumor people say that
there was a treaty between our president and the ETS
to be allowed to trade technology for abductions and experimentation

(01:01:09):
on humans. I personally have a weakend at night with
ET's in my bedroom before. I think a lot of
people in my chat, a lot of people who are
listening have probably had an encounter with the et that
they can remember. It's really strange how it's so kind
of immersed into our lives, like UFO aliens that are
always you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Know, there was more than Roswell too. In nineteen thirty
nine or thirty eight or thirty nine, the Gentlemans had
a crash very similar to Roswell in the Black Forest
and you should look that up. And then there was
also a crash in Cape Girarddeau, Missouri and forty one
that's similar to Roswell. Those are both too interesting. Yeah,

(01:01:55):
intendency to be able to want to look them up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Yeah, okay, yeah, everybody, this is I mean, I've done
multiple shows where we've discussed those three D glasses, and
so I always wonder, like, is Amazon getting a spike
in three D glasses sells as people hear this. I
think so, And I need to get me a pair
or two pairs or more.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I can't counteract your other things. So you said that
algorithm will be peaceful for you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Yes, you got to get the red and blue, thank you, Marin.
You got to get the red and blue three D
glasses the old schools kind and that would be actually
a great thing to take to UFO conferences and places
where even if you're going to go out and do
a SkyWatch at night or during the day, because you
can see them during the day with these on. Now
you and I did a show on the Dician and

(01:02:44):
Die goggles that is to this day. Is that is
the highest watch video on my YouTube channel. Right, Yes,
that says a lot right there, It says a lot.
People are really interested in this because it's interns dimensional
viewing technology. And that's I mean, you get a cheap
version of interdimensional viewing technology with those three D glasses.

(01:03:08):
It's not Di Sion and Die, but you know you
could if you can see into the other realms. I
mean that kind of leads us to the question, like
what all is around us? Right now? You never know? Right,
you never know? And now and then they've got these
large hadron colliders and these ion colliders all over the
world potentially opening up like rifts and space and time

(01:03:32):
and portals. If they're doing let's just say, sacrificial rituals
on the grounds of CERN's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Co I just combination.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yes, that's not a that's not a good sign. And
with they're opening ceremonies, ceremonys that's an interesting word. A ceremony.
I don't know where that came from. Their ceremony. It
was very paganistic but had a lot of dark stuff
to it. And I did show that picture of the
while you were talking earlier. I pulled up this picture

(01:04:10):
from the opening ceremony and it looks like ghosts are
coming out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Oh, it does.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Something that doesn't look very pleasant. I mean, it depends
on your perspective, but to me, that looks kind of scary.
It it makes you wonder, okay, like you, like you
had asked, are they conjuring something? What is the agenda
at this point? What are they planning to do to humanity?

(01:04:36):
Is that to destroy or is it to help? What
do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
You know what? I think if they were here to help,
they would just land and say so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
I think if there's any nefarious activity, hidden activity, hitting
activity is never a good thing. It's you know, if
somebody's keeping something, they're doing something that's going to affect
you and hiding it from you, it's never a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Mhm. But we have but our world is run by
secret societies, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Supposedly allegedly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Allegedly YouTube just so YouTube. This is her entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Are all our favorite bond Bill and clog Wab his
name is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Guys from Awesome Powers, you know, like doctor Doom. Yeah,
one million dollars. Yeah, it's there's there is a push,
and I don't want I don't like getting into the
fear aspect. I don't want people living in fear like
this is also terrible. It's gloom and doom and they're

(01:05:57):
trying to ruin the world and you know, make us
all into were already kind of like we've already ruled
over by a bunch of psychopaths right now, and so
on the outside, I mean, we're all sovereign, you know
what I mean? And and you we we make our
we have free will, okay, but is this particle collider?

(01:06:20):
Is this taking away our free will?

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Well? Who knows? I mean, really, what if if the
whole things were good? What what is the what is
the outcome they're looking for? Has it ever been made clear?
And how is it going to benefit mankind? You know,

(01:06:44):
we get total a lot of things of our own
benefit and they usually turn out they're not. I don't see,
you know. But then again, I'm not a particle businessist.
That's not what makes my uh, that's not what stirs
my kool aid. So uh, I can't see what they're

(01:07:05):
what they're doing it for, and I can see a
lot of bad things happening with it. I don't know, Jessica. Uh,
there's just so much being said about it. And but
then at the same time, you know, the scientists may
tell you, well, you know, that's just your cap man
way of thinking. We're just doing experiments. Okay, that's fine,

(01:07:29):
but there's sure a lot of potential for bad with it,
you know, well, you know, and there's a lot of
rumors about a lot of bad going on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
So okay, let's cover the Mandela effect briefly. Okay, the
Mandela effect. And I believe that it's possible that the
Mandela effects are happening because they are turning something on
it certain potentially, And I know people have laughed at
me about it. I don't care. It's okay, it's just
let's just let's just put it out there and discuss

(01:07:58):
it for a second. Could they be switching us into
different timelines? Who's in charge of switching us into different timelines?
And for what purpose it's not it's not so much
probably to help, but is it? I mean, who's in
My question is who's in charge of all this? Okay?
Is this all? A? I?

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
What? What's going on? John? What do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Who's who's ultimately in charge of evil? I don't even
say a name, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
I get that. Well, there's a lot of there's a
lot of people falling in line, and.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
He's going to have human minions and he's gonna have
the there's gonna be promises made, and you're gonna have
this and you're gonna and they may very well get
it for a decade if that long morning, but then
they're all going to end up what we say in
a dirt nap, just like the rest of us. You'll know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I just want to tell the audience real quick. You know,
it's funny that John and I were discussing before the show,
like what's appropriate to say as far as like, you know,
unaliv ing, because that's like a you know, we're all
saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
It's like, why why are we saying that. Let's come
up with another term tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
We're being conditioned, conditioned not to use regular word the
D word or de a D they don't like. So yeah,
we can't use a D word. You know, it's conditioning
and we're going right into it like a Lemmings. We're
just going to you know, pop it right along.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Well. And that's the thing because platforms like the one
that we're on right now, the two of them that
I'm on right now, will take those words, and there's
a AI program that will allegedly, I don't know for
sure they do it or not, because I mean, I
I don't know if I get I mean, I'm sure
I get shadow band and all that kind of I
don't know, you know, I'm I don't really worry about

(01:09:59):
it because I'm just getting information out and the people
that are supposed to hear it hear it, okay, and
uh and those of us that the people that are
interested in are going to find it. So I don't.
I'm not I'm not a numbers girl.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
It doesn't matter to me. Okay, but uh, but it
will take your video and I'll put you lower down.
It's going to algorithm or something, I guess if you
start using words like that. So it's just a control
tactic to censor and to keep you in line.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
That's what that is. This is your career, this is
your profession, and you're by this, so you see, it
is a form of control.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
It is around it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
And they can affict your livelihood just because they don't
like what you say. True. So you think there's no
conspiracies out there. That's a conspiracy, right there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Oh no, I think there's lots of conspiracies, but conspiracies
usually end up being really true. And speaking of that,
I do want to repeat this quote one more time
because I think it's so important and it's my it's
it's my buddy AJ And somebody in the chat was like,
why I used to listen to him, but like his
yelling would stress me out? Me too, Me too, girl, Okay,
I had to. I had to take it in doses

(01:11:08):
because it was very stressful. Okay, but sometimes the truth
is stressful. Okay, they can traumatize us, but we need
to know it. And uh and and even if it's
maybe he yells because he's just passionate. I don't know,
you know, I don't yell here on my channel. I
try not to U. But he if y'all know who
I'm talking about, Agent I'm just gonna say a j

(01:11:29):
I already said his name earlier. Uh, demons. He talked
about demons and uh. And there's a clip that I
saw today. I put it on my social media and
my my Instagram stories. But he's like demons, Like the
Bible says, it's an intergalactic invasion into this space through people,
through people. It's the it's what the ancients warmed of.

(01:11:50):
It's what we're dealing with their demons, interdimensional demons, and
what I believe, what I think personally, what could be
happened is that when they're opening up these portals. I
mean you've seen probably seen the videos John of the
yeahcern on, it's like a portal, Like the clouds start
moving above the property there where the SERN is located.

(01:12:13):
It looks like portals are opening and stuff. I mean
what I mean we talk about like all these clone
bodies and stuff. I noticed I had had little conversations
with like Caleb Jade, who's I think. I don't know
Caleb's in the chat today or not, but Caleb's usually
in here talking about the entities possessing the bot of bodies,

(01:12:34):
of clones or whatever's out there. They need the bodies. Okay,
they need human bodies. I have an instance. I have
several instances where I watched the same dark entity inter
different but I didn't physically see it go jump from
body to body, but I saw people change into the
exact same person that that demon had been in before.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
So I believe that is the demons you speak of.
They're the they're the disembodied spirits of the dead, neppulon,
and they can't go to heaven and they can't go
to health, to their abomination, so their eternity. They're doing
what they're doing right now, and they need a body
to taste, to touch to, you know. They miss all that,

(01:13:21):
and that's why they want to want to inhabit a
human body.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Mmmm. Well, the humans are doing all they'll do the
dirty work and they won't even know it, you know.
I watched the interesting video today, and uh, and I
just I don't know. I think this is kind of
connected a little bit because it was a hypnotist and
this guy. And I don't ask me how I had
time to watch videos today, I don't know. I was
stumbing through. I find time to do worthless stuff occasionally,

(01:13:48):
and and I was slipping through Instagram or Facebook or something.
And this man was hypnotizing people on the street to
not remember their name. Oh no, do you know how
easy that was for him to do that? Just regular people, young,
young I'm gonna say kids because they're probably in their twenties, teenagers.
When there he was like I you know, he rubbed

(01:14:11):
something on their head, he did a little did a
little magic, little hypnotic stuff, and they could not remember
their first names, none of them.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Now, if that man on a street corner could do
that to their average twenty year old, healthy, healthy minded person.
I mean, I'm not going to say I know how
sound their minds were, but they seemed pretty okay, they
can do that to them. Imagine that's in two seconds
of meeting somebody and he did that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Imagine what all could be done to the masses in
ritual form on television?

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Yeah, or yeah, just do a television exactly or.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Probably Well, we're always in our phones, right. What it's
in a is a portal, the black screen right, the
black rectangle. Uh, it's it's a portal. Our tivs are
portals and uh, and just think about all the things

(01:15:13):
and I quit watching ghosts shows. I quit watching the murders,
excuse me, the unliving dirt nap shows. I stopped watching
those because I felt like I was because I'm manifest.
I know I am infinitely potential. I have infinite potential
of manifesting my reality. And so that's in a good way,

(01:15:36):
in a bad way, you know. I'm careful about that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
I was sick for a while and I started watching
those shows laying on the couch, and I had to quit.
It was so depressing because they take somebody else's life,
they've ruined their own life, and as it was, usually
it was something stupid, you know, And I just think,
look how many lives they're ruined because you had no

(01:16:03):
impulse control.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Yeah, they want to feel powerful, I think, I think,
and it almos down to what I said in the
beginning power control. A lot of people just want to
get famous. They'll do dumb stuff because they just want
the fame and the notoriety and the clout. But posing
that question about it is certain taking away our free
will with stuff, with life, with our timelines, I mean

(01:16:31):
the Mandela effect.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
I never finished that whole thought there, because we went
on and talked about something else and I forgot. But
there's a Mandela effect that all these Mendela effects, like
a lot of us will remember one thing one way,
but it really never happened that way, is what we're told.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
That's not true. That saw the Mandela effect on the
proof of the Loom emblem and they were saying, no,
there was never that horn of plenty. It was just
a fruit. There was never the cone. You remember. You
may not remember the corner kopea. I remember very well.
And now all there is is prudent that say no,
there was never a corner Kobe. And finally somebody proved

(01:17:08):
it because they had an old T shirt or something
with with tags still on it. So why are they
doing that? I mean, what's what's I don't get why
they're while they're pulling stunts like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I mean, Chick fil A, that's my one. It was
spelled c H I K fil A. I swear it
was c H I C K. And the font's different
to a little on some of the stores. It's just weird.
And you know, I don't. I don't. If I sat
around thinking about it too hard, my brain would explode. Okay,
So I just kind of we have to take note
of it and keep it moving because we have lives

(01:17:44):
to live. We have people to wake up, souls to
save over here. Okay, I mean it's uh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Absolutely, I do, absolutely, dude, you know, we really do.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I'm not kidding. Yeah, we're not kidding here. And man,
I just realized it's time to wrap it up, John,
I can't believe it. This is my so fast. Yeah,
this is so fun. I know this is well. I
do have to pick up my kid. I always say
that on my daytime. This is I'm gonna have two
daytime shows a week now, so I'm gonna have to
cut it around this time every every every daytime show.

(01:18:21):
So my son didn't get stranded at school in the
after school program. But don't pick them up. But John,
this is wonderful. Thank you so much for being here.
Will you do you have any final thoughts concern? Should
we be concerned?

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
What do you think we should be concerned because they're
dealing with things like black holes and particle physics and
reactions atomic reactions. Yes, we should be concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Yeah, I think we should be concerned too what they
can bring to that. Yeah, we need to be concerned
about everything that can be brought through. Keep your head
on a swivel. I have been told, and I've talked
about that before, about some of these alleged Hadriank colliders
and ion colliders underneath certain places around the South. And

(01:19:13):
they say that when those things were turned on, all
chaos erupted, dirt naps, okay, and well unlivings and you
know essays if y'all know what I mean, and all
sorts of carjackings and things just everybody, everything became much

(01:19:34):
more violent, even unliving of oneself as well. So so
we do need to be concerned about this. But don't
live in fear. Okay, that is my go to do.
Not live in fear, y'all. And and John, you have
a wonderful book series. If you want to get away,
y'all from all of the rigamoureau all the craziness in
the world, get John's books. Immerse yourself in reading. And John,

(01:19:58):
tell everybody about your books and where they can find them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Yeah, my books if your Bigfoot fan people, Bigfoot people
really love them. Bus It branches off like I say,
in the UFOs and even fallen angels and things. They're
on Amazon. The best way to get a link though
is www dot relicsbook dot com and Singular relicsbook dot

(01:20:22):
com and that'll take it all the books. And there's
Amazon links and hard copy paperback Summer Summer on audio,
So yes, please and if you want a good story,
look me up at that website. Also, before I get
off here, anybody in Northeast Texas, eastern Oklahoma, Western Arkansas.

(01:20:46):
October fourth through six here in Anobi is the Bigfoot
Festival and we'll be having it. There'll be some great
guest speakers, lots of vendors, food vendors, craft vendors. It's
just enjoy well time and your inviody to come out
October fourth through sixth.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Oh man, I wish I lived closer. I would sew
up the fine. I know that sounds awesome. Well, John,
thank you so much for being here today. I have
hope you'll come back and do this again. You are
welcome to come and co host with me anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Thank you. I love being on your show. Thank you,
glad to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Thank you, and please give Monica a big old hug
for me. Okay, okay, wonderful. Well, I want to thank
everybody for being here today. You guys are awesome. I
also want to thank the girl and her going Thank you, Marien,
you and Gus for the supersticker. That is very sweet
of y'all. Y'all are the best for sure. And during
the show we got two new channel members. Thank you
Brooke very much and also Kiana, thank you, and tell Greg.

(01:21:47):
I said hey as well. I saw your comments in
there during the show, and I did a little handwag.
If y'all see me waving like this during the show,
I'm saying hey to the chat. Okay, I'm not trying
to get Johns attention, Okay, I'm just I'm waving so
so I just that's my good way of saying hey
to everybody and not interrupting my guests while I do it.
So thank you all again so much for being here.
Thank you for making this a wonderful first show. John

(01:22:09):
on our.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Monday, glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Wonderful. Okay, y'all go to relicsbook dot com. Go get
his book, and I do have na Paul right here.
This is They're all amazing Relics and Napaul. They're all
my favorites. Okay, so get your copy and I will
see you guys on Wednesday. We will be on a
glitch in the matrix at one pm on Wednesday. I

(01:22:33):
might have Caleb jad here.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
I'm gonna call him today, and I do believe we're
gonna work something out, hopefully where he can be here
on Wednesday. So John, have a wonderful day. You guys
have a great day, and I will see you guys
back here on Wednesday. Y'all stay safe out there, keep
your head on a swivel.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Bye John, Bye, bye Hie, Bye.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
Liosa, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Y Nola.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
Mab in many Lambea as many names
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