Frogman & Subterranean Reptilians of the Americas with Midwest Night Watchers

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Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, good afternoon, everybody. It's the Crypted Huntress and boy
do we have a weird show for y'all today. We
always like to keep it weird over here, though, don't we.
And just recently within the past week or so, there
have been some strange videos going around the Internet that
have gone viral of what appears to be a frogman

(01:24):
or a lizard man on top of a roof in Cancun, Mexico.
And we're going to be discussing that today, plus more
of course with Jane and Garrel of Midwest Night Watchers,
and we may have another surprise co host slash guests
with doctor John Steamy today, So y'all just buckle up.

(01:48):
We're in for a wild ride today. Of course, doctor
Steamy has written multiple books on lizard men and did
one of the first festivals on the frogmen. I think
that was about a couple of years ago, and so
we're gonna probably get into that a little bit today
because we do have these in the United States as well. Now,
the question as to whether there's a video of a

(02:10):
frogman can't can't. Can't really argue there's like this video,
but is it ai? Okay, that's the question, is this
AI or is this real? And what are the implications
of all of this? I don't know. Have they have
the reptilians crawled out of inner Earth?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Maybe? Okay, So, like I said, y'all, buckle up. We
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(03:11):
well let's get to our show today, shall we. And yes, okay,
I'm getting text messages from doctor John Stamy. Okay, so
I may have to text him to link in just
a second. Okay, So today we are looking into this
viral video of an apparent frogman in Cancu, Mexico. It

(03:33):
shows this froglike humanoid squatted on the roof of a building.
We're going to show you guys the videos today and
the pictures if you haven't already seen them. It's so
realistic that the Internet is buzzing as to whether AI
has blurred the line between fantasy and reality. Our interdimensional
creatures appearing from Inner Earth. Subterranean reptilian species have been

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reported for centuries across Central, South and North America. We're
even going to get into do some extra terrestrial species
as well, said to live in Inner Earth, ultra terrestrials.
And of course I do have my good friends Jane
and Garrel Fountain of Midwest Night Watchers here, and let's

(04:17):
go ahead and pull them up, and then I'm gonna
send doctor John that link. Hey Jane, Hey Giryl, Hey
real Thank y'all so much for being here.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh thanks for having us.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
This is another interesting one. Well, of course, of course,
have you guys seen this video? What do y'all think
about it? Of this frog man?

Speaker 3 (04:39):
I don't know. I mean, look, when I first saw it,
I thought, man, this this looks so real. But then
I started seeing people talking about AI and all that.
So then I started getting my own heads like, Okay,
is this real? Is it not real? I'm on the fence.
I don't I don't really know.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
It looks real, but then you look at other ones
and you can tell they're not real. So I'm confused.
I don't know what to think.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh man, I'm confused to Uh well, let me tell you,
let me let me tell you what I think about this. Now.
We're going to show the video to the audience just
a minute, Okay, and if you haven't seen it, it's
all over TikTok or trusted news source these days. But
this this video, the first time I saw it, it
was a different video than the videos that I'm seeing today,

(05:26):
which is weird. It's the same video, but it's been
like somebody just they keep altering it. Yeah, and I
feel like they The first video that I saw looked real. Okay,
it did, but the subsequent videos that I've been seeing
put out it doesn't look as real as it did
the first time. Yeah. And rain that's like not the
rain's not coming down, but it's like dropping down undneath

(05:49):
that tin roof. It just doesn't really make sense. There's
people around them, so I don't know, it's just it's
just weird. Let me show a still shot to the
audience and if you guys are wondering what this thing
looks like, oh shoot, oh here it is. Here it is.

(06:11):
This is what we're talking about. In case anyone has
not seen the video, this is a still shot and
the thing is actually moving around and it even inflates
his throat. I think I've seen Katy Perry do that once. Yeah,
I'm serious. She did that on a show. She was

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showing how she could inflate her throat and I was like, man, yeah,
it wasn't that big. She couldn't inflate it that big,
but it was still similar to that. And I don't
know what are yourll thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Not sure you can see a reflection of the light
on the throat, So I mean, would AI actually add
images like that? And then I was trying to look
at the fingers to make or an extra one didn't
show up articappear because of AI?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I don't know. Okay, I don't know either. Like I said,
when I first saw the video, I thought it was real,
and then I was kind of questioning when his throat
blew up. It was like it seemed like it wasn't
quite real, but Jane says she thought it looked real.
So I'm kind of on the fence. That's the only
part I don't really like is one as throat blows

(07:27):
goes big. Oh yeah, it just looks kind of fake
to me when it gets to that point. But I
don't I don't know it does well.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
And also when the first time I saw the video,
it wasn't banging around and hitting the top of the roof.
It was just sitting there and kind of looking at
everybody right and his throat blew up, got got big
and then and that was it. That's all I saw.
And now it's like banging around and people are trying
to touch it and like it's just it's just it's
just kind of to me, it seems like it's AI.

(07:57):
At this point, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go on
a limits. This thing is AI, But I don't know.
That first video I saw was not It didn't appear
to be AI. And and people are saying they're claiming
that they're putting it through those AI detectors and it's
coming back as not AI.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Oh, we were talking about that last night.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well let me those now, I don't
know that's the good question. Well let me let me
read exactly what the scenario is here, okay, and we'll
pull this. We can pull this back up for everybody
to look at while I read this. Okay, So last Friday,
I think this was just last Friday. Okay, this was recent.

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This past week, residents of the small town of San
Miguel Leilas, Rocas Mako, Okay, reported a terrifying encounter. What
have they? What they described? Witnesses described as a lizard
like humanoid moving through the outskirts of town. You're an
abandoned limestone quarry, according to locals, a bunch of locals.

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The creature stood upright nearly six feet tall. It had
elongated limb, scaled skin, and it shimmered under the moonlight.
It had round eyes that reflected a dull amber glow,
and several photographs were captured by people that were looking
at it, showing a toss silhouette with reptilian features with

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a long neck, angular skull, and clawed hands. All right, even,
let's see, there's a short video that was taken by
an alleged passer by on a motorist. I don't know
if it's a motorcycle or what, but the footage shows
the entity crossing the road. Now there's multiple videos of

(09:45):
this thing, allegedly, it says it shows it crossing the road, pausing,
slowly turning its head towards the camera before vanishing into
the tree line, and it has been repeatedly removed from
social media platforms. Mirrored uploads have been taken down within
hours for unknown policy violations, and dozens of users report

(10:14):
downloading the clip only to have it that's weird. Online
forums tracking the case say this is the fourth unexplained
digital wipe associated with this incident. Local authorities in sam
Miguel de las Roccas have refused to comment. Unmarked vehicles

(10:34):
have reportedly been seen in the area where the encounter occurred,
and and some people are saying that it resembles some
of the I can't pronounce these words, but the as
a autole guardians and maybe even could be a reptilian
or saying these are reptilians actually, And I had Sean

(10:57):
who watches our show sent me a a comment, put
a comment him and sovereign cosmic wild Man. Less of
comments under my video from Saturday night. By the way, y'all,
we had a wonderful show Saturday night with Eric harry
Man Rode but left a comment about this, and we're

(11:18):
talking about them being from Inner Earth and they actually
have a name. We're gonna get into that a little
bit in just a little while. However, I don't know.
This is kind of wild. And I did get some
of this information from squatch Watch as well. This is
what I was just reading on Instagram. But this is
all over all over the internet, y'all, all over the web,

(11:39):
all over social media, definitely all over TikTok. But like
I said, the video keeps morphing, right, So I don't know,
maybe should we show the video?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, we can show the video, Okay, Well, I think
the here looks really strange. So if you look at
the other ones that we things that people added it to,
I want to make sure that that ear is the
same that right there that looks the eyes look different.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't know, I noticed that too, Jane. That's actually
what I noticed too. Or the ears kept changing, so
the ears look normal. It looks almost like more they got.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, the first photo has it. That's what we need
to ears to see. Look that that those ears are weird.
So if you compare that to the other photos, you
might be able to figure out if it's a iron
that's weird looking ears. I don't even know if frogs
have that.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, let's see. Okay, yeah, I can't say it is
a frog or reptilian. It looks like it looks like both.
But here here's the video, y'all. We're gonna pull this
up for the audience.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
So the only thing that I know from frog jigging
is that when they croak, that's when their throat goes big.
But in the other video, it's only when he's yelling
or screaming or making the noise other than the croaking.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
H huh oh.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, in the first video I saw his ears looked
a little different from this one. And because I will
never forget the ears, and and he looked more human.
It was kind of like, you look like this, it
looks similar to this. I don't know, Like I said,
the videos just kind of keep changing almost like it
looked like he had, uh the ears like where people

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put those extenders in their ear lobes, you know, and
likes get bigger. That's what it looked like the first time.
And so these are actually sticking out away from the
head more then that first video that I saw. So
I don't like I said, this is it's really odd.
But I would think that if there was a concerted
effort to cover this up, if it's something somebody one

(14:17):
of these really did get filmed and u and it
was a real video, I would think that there would
be a concerted effort to like kind of put some
other stuff out there so we don't know what's real
and what's not true to keep.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Us we don't know what's one is the actual real video?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
John?

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ye, Hey, how's it going.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Great? Thank you for being here, doctor John.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Glad to be here. Everybody doing well.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
We're doing excellent. I'm doing good, good good?

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
John? What you you? You're one of my resident experts
on on the lizard man and even strong men. What
do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, here's what I know, and this comes from my
book Look Up in the Sky. I think I have
the first written account of the Loveland frog Man. In fact,
I helped create the first Loveland Frogman Festival. So I'm
a little bit familiar with all the crazy stuff going
on about it. It's really kind of cool. May I

(15:26):
read what I have here in my book? It's very short,
but it's kind of like my chronicle of the Loveland
frog Man. There are apparently three original sightings, but this
is the one that we that I think has the
greatest veracity. It's it's probably the most legitimate of all

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the three sightings that we've got, and I'm going to
just stick my head in the book and read it,
he says. The ever popular Loveland frog Man and has
a history that dates back to nineteen fifty five. As
the story goes, a traveling salesman named Ron Honeycut was
heading out a bench hill in the Loveland area. There

(16:12):
seems to be three different versions of his sighting. The first,
Honeycut was traveling along a lonely dirt road and he
saw three frog like creatures standing in the middle of
the road. They were about four feet tall and they
may have weighed about forty pounds. He turned on his

(16:36):
bright lights and identified them as something really otherworldly. The
creatures had a slight crouch to them, like a frog,
and they definitely had frog like heads. When the creatures
were traced, were faced with his headlights. They hurried off
the road and disappeared into the Little Miami River. Now

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that is what I believe to be the closest story
of the closest to the correct story that might have happened.
Another version says he saw three frog like creatures under
the Loveland Bridge. He blew his horn. One of the creatures,
with a froglike head, jumped on the hood of his car.

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The creature was immobilized, and Honeycut stopped the car. Along
that lonely road. He supposedly came to a bit later
he had just passed out from fear or something, We're
not sure. And then finally Honeycut saw three frogmen in
the middle of the road. He got out of the

(17:38):
car to see what was going on. The frogman mumbled
something to him. Then one of them pulled out a
small stick which had sparks like fireworks. Honeycut was amazed.
At that point, he got in his car and sped off.
The point is, Honeycut had something happened along the lonely

(18:01):
dirt road, and I think as a salesman, I know
that I am a salesman. You don't have time to
deal with lies. You don't have time to make up stories.
So if he reported this, something definitely happened to him.
And that's what I think. And that was nineteen fifty five,
that was seventy years ago, but the story still lives on.

(18:25):
I got that story from a number of I got
all three versions from a number of people who were
up in the Loveland area in Cincinnati, and I ended
up putting it, putting it in the book, and we
got this thing out right before the Frogman Festival. A
lot of people bought it. This version, version three has

(18:48):
never been on Amazon, so send me a message if
you want to buy a copy. They're twenty bucks. But
these are some very interesting stories, and the Loveland Frogman
has a lot of crew ability up there in Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I think that there's actually been some recent sightings of
frog like creatures up there too, because my friend might
te of Empty Paranormal Life came on and was talking
about some some frog like creatures up there, but I
don't think he was familiar with the Loveland Frogmen. And uh,
he lives there in Ohio where they're having these these
sightings up there.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, I tell it, Jessica, I'm gonna I'm gonna say,
would you please contact get me in contact with him,
because I would love to update this story for the
upcoming version of Look Up in the Sky, version four.
I mean, this is a this is kind of a
great and interesting story. It's one that has really withstood
the test of time, and I think that we need

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to we need to continue researching it because sometimes there
are long periods of time between first and credible secondary sightings.
So yeah, yeah, I'd love to talk to him, include
an interview with him in my next version of the book.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh yeah, Well, John, my question for you is could
there be a connection between the frogmen and the Lizardmen?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
What I really think is there could not be, because
I believe it is very interesting that the lizard man
sightings took place right outside of Shaw Air Force Base
and Sumter, and those sightings date back to the seventeen hundreds.

(20:41):
That's in my book The Lizardman Companion. But I don't
know about those, but I know that they did a
lot of experiments. The Army did a lot of experiments
at Shaw Air Force Base on cryptids and things like that,
you know, like we've had up in Maryland, and so
I don't think that there's any I don't think there's

(21:04):
any relationship because I think the lizard Man is kind
of a whole different animal, no pun intended, and it
has to do really with an air Force base. Now
you can speculate what I'm talking about, and that's something
that I don't want to talk about publicly. But I'll

(21:25):
tell you what. The Frogman and the lizard Man are
very credible stories. I think there's reason to believe both
of them. If you get my copy of Lizardman Companion,
you'll see that there are thirteen stories that were printed
in the Bishopville Observer, and I was given permission to

(21:50):
copy those and include them in the book. That's a
whole separate thing. Now the Frogman don't know what it is,
but this was I think Honeycutt's story. I believe, due
to his occupation and everything, that had to be reasonably credible.

(22:11):
I mean, there's no reason, excuse me, there's no reason
that the Frogman story is not credible. There are two others,
one completely fake and the other one a couple saw
the thing, and I believe. I believe it's real. So
that's what I think, and having been up there, having

(22:32):
investigated having been to the Loveland Bridge. It's creepy place,
it really is.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Oh that's so cool you've been there. Well, you know,
I was tasked with the Loveland Frogmen as four separate
blind remote viewing targets a long time ago, and I
did a show on it. And I want to say,
this is interesting that you're bringing up the air Force
base because part of my data I just looked over
my data this morning. Part of my data included mon

(23:00):
talk for the Loveland prog Men. Now mon talk, mon talk.
Really Camp Camp Hero where they did the Montalk project
where they were working on time travel experiments, teleportation and
all of all those wild wacky experiments. They're not so wacky.
They were actually very serious program that went on there.

(23:21):
And and it was an Air Force base. John really yes.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well, maybe we'll maybe we'll have to have a little,
uh a little conversation about this, and maybe we can
kind of pull all this together based on your remote
viewing data, because that's something I'd never heard, so that really, yeah,
please send it to me. I will.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
I even remote viewed the Wand Okay, because these these
frogmen actually were holding something in their hands that had
sparks coming off the tip.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Of wells as. That was the third. That was the
third of the three versions of honeycuts h story. That
that that I detailed a little bit.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, a wand oh yeah yeah that was whatever
that was. Okay, here here's my take on my data.
I think there were time traveling frogs. I know that.
I don't know, janea girl. What do y'all think about that?
Because do you think it's so out there to like

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connect them to Montalk and and that kind of stuff?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Oh, plumb Island is right there too.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, and Brooke Haveaven Labs as well, is right there.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Nothing surprises me these days. I mean, it's just nothing anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
I know me too. Well, John, John, did you happen
to see the video and the pictures of this this
frog man that was taken down in Mexico allegedly we're
trying to figure out if it is a.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Can you can you see your phone? John, I'm gonna
pull up a picture so you can see this.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Absolutely. Okay, can you.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
See that picture right there and look at its ears?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
But that is very consistent with what Ron Honeycutt saw
in his description.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Okay, look it even has its its throat is expanded
with air right there. Can you see that picture?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yes, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Pretty interesting. Well, we don't know where this is.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
When were these pictures taken.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
About a week ago?

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah? Recently?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
So I had the video of the one where he
blows up his neck. Oh right, if you want to
watch that one, yes.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Let's watch it. We're gonna watch where its neck gets
blown up, just like Katy Perry.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, man ah man, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
So the ears are the same right there, Yeah they are.
Now blow up your throat again? Oh all right, the
ears don't move okay, oh wow, Yeah, definitely has five fingers.
But is that three? Does it is three toes and

(26:27):
five fingers? Yeah, that ear is so.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Weird now, Jessica, this is John again. The person that
took this photograph or this video obviously was very close
to the frog man. Yes, how possible is that?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, we were told that it was a passerby on
their on their motor vehicle. Somebody got out of their car.
This thing was on a roof. I was told Cancun.
But then there's a somewhere in Mexico. Okay, let's just
say somewhere in Mexico and and there's but there's different
versions of this John. So it's as though the first

(27:16):
video I saw was very real, very realistic, and then
it seems to have more If they're saying that this
video is keep getting taken down off of people's you know,
off their their social media and things like that, and
with no explanation.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's why it is being taken down.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, but but it seems to morph like some of
the videos, it looks different. There's actually videos of these
things climbing of something similar to this but has a
long tail and it's climbing up a wall or something
there as well. There's several videos I.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Have the run where he's climbing up a pole or something.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
A poll that's it, m hm.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
So apparently he said that it would Now this could
all just be fake and it could all be AI
but I don't know. Okay, So we're we're stating that
right now. We are not stating this is all real
in fact, y'all. Okay, but this is what we're being
shown on social media right now.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Oh my back feet look a lot longer.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Well, I'm not even sure if it's the same.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Oh okay, that that does have a tail. Oh, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, that one has a tail. I think I want
to say this is all ai.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
So it's a tadpole hasn't grown into a frog yet.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Or maybe it's just a reptilian.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Maybe it might not even be in the same area
or the same place. If it is real, it could
be a whole different incident.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
That's a huge tail. That's okay.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Fly.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm with Hillbilly Herb. He says, we're gonna need some
RV data on this. I agree, He'll Billy Herb.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
There's a good frog legs for dinner.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, Well it looks it looks very humanoid.
So I don't know what are what are the odds
of these of some kind of subterranean reptilian slash amphibious
you know species coming out of inner Earth right now
and being seen.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I mean a lot of flooding going on, if they're
living in caves or tunnels.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Right, that is true?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah, that is true. Garyl is Mexico having a lot
of flooding and rain two.

Speaker 6 (29:32):
Probably maybe I think I think they have some localized flooding,
is what I do remember seeing, you know in the news.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Hm, hmm.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, well, we've We've had several people have written some
comments under our video from Saturday because I mentioned that
I was going to do a show on this uh
today and uh and Sean, thank you Sean, who's I
don't know if he's in the chair today, but he
left me some interesting information about a species of reptilians

(30:07):
that he called them a people people that have long
been known to live underground in Central and South America. Okay, So,
and I'm going to completely slaughter the name of them
because I just do not know. I can't, I don't
know how to pronounce this, okay. But it's the acaboat Bongashians,

(30:28):
Aca Botegaishians. I think that's how you say that. And
I did a little bit of research. There wasn't a
whole lot of information I could find on these things, Okay,
But they say they originate from a planetary system of
three worlds known collectively as K seven. Now, these are
supposed to be like extraterrestrials basically that came here and

(30:48):
live down there, and they live in Inner Earth. They're peaceful, quiet,
reptiloid species who live in subterranean gardens cultivated in inner earth,
and and they they have immense buried cities. Okay, it's
from what from what I was reading about them, and
and they over time. I guess they came from somewhere

(31:10):
where their son got to be dangerous and they couldn't
live above ground, so they had to go underground. I mean,
it could be they were just here all along the
fronto but went underground. But you know, there have been
tells of these reptilian species, and I'm gonna sae reptilian,
not just frogmen. For centuries and even in South America,
there's like gods that were like dragon dragons, like how

(31:34):
do you pronounce that quoset cotal?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Right right? It's total yeah. And there's another thing that
is somewhat like this are the moon eyed people. They
seemed to have disappeared after they were attacked by the Cherokee,
and it has been said that they went underground, and

(31:58):
you know, the moon eyed people, because they had a
problem seeing in daylight and sunlight. So you know, there
are you know, the frog men, if this is the case,
are not the only ones who seem to be identified
with below ground.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Just a comment, Well, we had the hope, the hope
and Mount Shasta, Reptilian Race and cities underneath Mount Shasta.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And the Grand Canyon as well in La.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Has La Tunnels under it.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Oh, the Lizard People city under Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah. And by the way, when Scary Cast gets rebooted
on January the eleventh, we're going to be on Fox
forty three in Myrtle Beach in Florence, and I'm going
to have one of the first episodes is going to
be Devin Tate. He was one of my co hosts
for three years and he did a lot of research

(33:00):
about the Lizardman in Los Angeles, and there was a
there was a lot of stuff that we put that
he and I put together which would probably make a
good chapter in my next in the next version of
Look Up in the Sky. But there there was a lot.
There was a lot about the underground cave system that

(33:23):
the lizard Men of Los Angeles lived in and supposedly
habitated with, and there was a lot of newspaper coverage
of that.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Oh wow, Hey, I love all the documentation. I had
a wonderful guest on Saturday night, Eric of Harryman Road
on YouTube and he's been putting out floyer request John
of all these different cryptid sightings, any kind of government
information on cryptids on all these different states, and he
covered we covered Louisiana on Saturday night and h and

(33:53):
you will love this John. They actually he actually had
some documentation of actual rugarous wear wolves, dog men, bigfoots,
all that through government documents and stuff. So yeah, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
That is interesting. And you know what's nice because you know,
Matt delf was the one that was calling in while
I was while I was just starting on the show,
and he and I and Elijah Henderson and you are
planning a trip down there to New Orleans. I guess
it will be some time in the spring to see
if we can track some of this stuff down.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
That'll be a very that will be a very interesting
field trip, I think, to see what we can track down.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh yeah, we're gonna go hunt wear wolves and vampires.
Watch out now. Well, as long as Matthew Dell's with us,
we're safe. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, he's a great guy.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
There seems to be too separate, uh, frogmen or reptiles
because some of them are six to seven feet tall
and all the ones like love one are three to
four feet tall a lizard.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, very very astute comment there, garyl it really is.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, well, here's a picture that I had shown while
they go. Now this is this is what you can
find online if you're looking for the Loveland Frogmen. And
there's a if you look at the top. I think
that's the right hand corner on y'all screen. I don't know,
but it's a you can see the comparison between a
human and then the frogman. So it's pretty small, actually
pretty small. And as a matter of fact, when I

(35:44):
was remote viewing this, I thought that I was looking
at Christmas decorations in someone's yard, and I wrote that
in my data, I said, Christmas decor That's what I
thought I was seeing, was like little statues in someone yard,
the little Christmas decorations. Okay, so they're pretty small, quite small,

(36:05):
almost like aliens.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Jessica, Jessica, were you viewing in Ohio?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, it was the Loveland Frogmen. And there's a weird
picture right here too. Some people say that this is
an actual one of the frogmen out of Loveland. Now,
I don't know. It's a weird picture. I don't This
is kind of before the AI got real popular. Okay,
this picture has been around for a long time. I
don't know why someone needed to put a red circle

(36:34):
around it, kind of see what it is. Without circling
it got more of it. Does I mean that that
can be pretty much anything?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Right? It almost looks like a lizard, like how they
walk on their hind legs when they run.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, like an iguana or something.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Lizard than a frog.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, I don't know, but I'm with you, guys. I
think that there's a soa. I think there's frogmen, and
there's ligered men.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Toad man, oh dre different than a frog. So has
there been any reports of a toad man.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I have not been toad that yet.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I'm kidding. I don't know some of these pictures. I
don't know if these are supposed to be real pictures.
I think that's supposed to be a real picture.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Oh my, Now, this one is the one where people
are saying that, you know, it has glowy eyes coming
to the Loveland frog Man. But then other people said
they thought this was somebody in a diver's suit with
a with lights on their foreheads. So that's why it
looks like their eyes are glowing. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Well, you know what this reminds me of or the
the creature from the Black Lagoon and uh and garyl
before the show, you had mentioned that, and there's been
some sort of kind of comparisons to the creature of
the Black Lagoon with the Lovely frog Men, I.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Believe, Well, the creature from the Black Lagoon, I would
say it was the six to seven foot tall compared
to the three to four that the Loved One is.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You know, here's a fund of fun fact. They filmed
the creature from the Black Lagoon down where my parents
used to take me to swim with alligators. Ah and uh.
I am lucky to be alive today from that and
from all those fun trips out to the alligator swimming
hole and it called Culla Springs in Florida.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
You know, Jessica, I have to admit something. I'm up
here in my new residence in North Carolina and the
front door just opened by itself. The dog who was
walking itself came back in and the door closed.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
No way.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Oh absolutely, I'm sitting here watching I sat here watched it.
There's no wind outside. It's it's dead calm in The
door were opened by itself. You know, just crazy things
tend to happen together, don't they.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Maybe the dog has the dog has peak abilities. That's
what that is.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You know that the dogs dog. No, I'm sorry, the
dog has I want a treat.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Ability, but no.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
It's honestly that this door just opened and closed by itself.
And I'm sitting here. Great, you know, we're on Jessica's show.
Paranormal things are happening. It's it's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's not the first time this has happened on my show.
My friend John Vindaventer was on the show. We were
talking about black Shuck Out of the UK and as
we're talking about it, the door behind him opened up
and all by itself during the show. And it was
a door to outside. And he lives on a right
beside a chop toss cemetery actually with big.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
Footess gracious, that was about we didn't know that cemetary.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Here the door open and closed by itself. It's crazy. Anyway,
I thought I would just thought I would offer that up.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Oh my gosh, well stay safe out there, John, Oh
my gosh. Uh, well, you know I was gonna mention Okay,
so that the creature from the Black Lagoon. Some people
think that that is what spawned like these reports of
the Loveland frogmness because that movie came out around the
same time apparently, and some people thought, oh, their imaginations
are running wild because that movie came out. Am I right, Giryl, Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
I mean we always talk about this all the time,
especially when we're on show talk with you. That's like,
are we manifesting these saints? Was Hollywood putting it out there?
Then the public consciousness is making these saints manifest or
are these real creatures that come first? I mean that's
this is a chicken before the egg or.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Well, a lot of people claimed this was all a
big hoax with these Loveland frog up in Ohio. And
of course there was the one gentleman that was like
a sheriff's deputy or a police officer. He had scratches
on his car and on the guardrail right there. He
was claiming that was like from the frogmen, and I
don't know, his coworkers said they did not believe him, okay,

(41:20):
and they were making him out to be a crazy person.
But then, of course, with all of our research and
all the people we interview for you know, talking about
you know, people have had encounters with cryptids, reptilians, bigfoot,
dog men. People want to call us crazy. Okay, it's
just the go to thing, Okay, because it doesn't fit
people's normal realities. Okay, but but yeah, I mean even

(41:45):
to this day, there are still, Like I said, Mike
t had said that there was some sort of like
frog like creature sightings recently, but it's documented that back
in twenty sixteen, a couple did come forward and said
that they saw frogmen in Ohio when they were out
playing Pokemon Go.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Right. That is the third story of the three that
I have in my book.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It says so the Loveland frogmen got new life in
August of twenty sixteen when a couple came forward claiming
to have spotted the creature playing Pokemon Go. Loveland local
Sam Jacobs and his girlfriend were walking towards Ohio's Lake
Isabella catching digital Pokemon creatures on their smartphones. Ah, I mean,

(42:32):
that sounds like a great time, just kidding. It probably
was fun, I don't know, but when the legendary frogmen
appeared in front of them, we saw a huge frog
near the water. They told w LWT, I guess that's
a media outlet at the time, not in the game.
This was an actual giant frog. Then the thing stood

(42:54):
up and walked on its hind legs. I realized it
sounds crazy, but I swear on my grandmother's grave this
is the truth. He added that the creature was about
four feet tall, just as in all the previous accounts
he went. He also sent WLWT some photos to support
his claims, though the images were too dark to properly

(43:14):
make out the figure in them. And yeah, they should
have disappeared right in front of them, he said. I'm
not sure if it was a frogman or just a
fr giant frog, but I've never seen anything like it.
But a giant frog, any kind of frog, doesn't usually
walk on two legs or get.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
The four foot tall right, yeah, right, In fact, Jessica,
I'll read. It's a very short paragraph, but I'll read
my version of the twenty sixteen story. In mid August
twenty sixteen, a young man named Sam Jacobs and his
girlfriend had an interesting experience that may have been another

(43:51):
siding of the frog Man. The college couple were playing
Pokemon Go near in Cincinnati Lake Isabella. They were near
the Congregation of Beth Adams Synagogue in Loveland on Madonna Road.
Jacob's witnessed a frog like creature of appropriate size crossing

(44:14):
the railroad tracks and slithering into the lake. Young Man's
story has been greeted with some degree of skepticism, but
there were no other witnesses to the event. So that's
that's what I had in my book. Sounds a lot
like a lot like the one that you had there. Yeah,

(44:36):
I mean they're playing Pokemon Go and they find and
they see a frog. I mean that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
They saw a frog. I love that that is. That
is really wild. I mean, imagine playing something where you're
you're seeing like holographic you know, computer simulated creatures, and
then all of a sudden, there's a real weird creature
right in front of you, and it's like, you know,
it's almost like the whole theme of this show today
is like there's there's a strange line between reality and simulation,

(45:07):
right and like not knowing. I mean that the lines
are so blurred right now because of the AI, because
of the computer simulations and all that stuff, and we
all know all four of us right here. We know
that these creatures are real, like Bigfoot and stuff. I've
seen them myself, John, I know you have. Yeah, we've
all seen some weird stuff. But the normal, average, everyday

(45:32):
human you know, the normies. Uh, it's all you know
to them. It's probably all fake and all computer simulated anyways.
I mean I have to wonder, like, is there a
connection to like Project Blue Beam and stuff too with
some of this, like with those, I mean even I
know we're looking to the skies for Project Blue Beam, right,
we're looking at the sky like or is a fake

(45:53):
alien invasion gonna happen? Well, what if it's not in
the skies? What if it's on the ground and it's
like aliens and stuff and lizard people it's just a
thought holograms, Yeah, a bunch of holograms.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Well, I guess that we will see if anything happens,
and I believe everybody needs to be on the lookout
for the fact that Well is it real? Is it reality?
Or is it not? I mean, is it reality that
the door to my house opened and closed by itself
and the dog came walking in in the middle of it.

(46:27):
I mean, is it real? Is it real.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
My question is are they walking like humans or are
they hopping?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Well, I have a video ready to go. I supposedly
it's the Loveland frog Man that somebody took a video of,
but it could be AI. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Okay, I'm gonna pull it up, but first I want
to say Jojo Awaken spending my birthday with the Crypti
Huntress and all you awesome people. Thank you, Jojo, Happy
birthday to year. Thank you for being here, and I
thank you for that super cigar. You're so sweet. Thank
you so much, Jojo. And there was somebody else had
who had a birthday today as well. I saw in

(47:12):
the beginning of the show. I meant to put a
star on that one. And I can't remember who it is,
but they're at the courthouse and a speeding ticket or something. Okay,
so happy birthday to you. Okay, I can't remember who
it was, but thank you so much for being here
y'all on your birthdays. Y'all are so sweet. Okay, let's
see this video. Oh this is an interesting one.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Okay, what on earth?

Speaker 4 (47:46):
It definitely has long fingers.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
It almost like a sand frog. He's lonely.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Hey, can't find any flies and bugs big enough to eat?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I know? And why why is he not like walking away?
You know what I mean? If somebody's filming him kind
of that looks and this reminds me of like me
filming my my son would get in the lake and
be like, hey, smile for mom.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Tell the video right, and you have the light emanating
from the area of the person that's filming. That is
a little crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Why did you man see him? Right?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, it's an interesting video though, you know. I was
telling Girl, Girl was telling you last night. I was like,
you know, I want to make my own try to
do my own AI. See, I don't really know how
to do a I tried, and I didn't succeed because
I don't know how to do it. But I was
going to try to make my own AI video of
a frogman mm hmm. And I could. I can do
like steel pictures, but I don't know how to make

(48:47):
like the videos of them, so right, Yeah, it can't
be that hard. I mean, if so many people are
doing this stuff. I did one. I was proud of
myself on TikTok. That gave me the option of like
making it like a video of one of my steel pictures,
and so I had a dog man that came down
looked like it was gonna eat me, but it hugged
me instead, and I thought that was really cool. Okay,

(49:13):
but yeah, I don't know. There's there's just we can't
trust anything we watch anymore because of this AI stuff, right, unfortunately.
But I guess the good thing is it's like, well,
there's it's bringing an awareness that these things do exist,
though they are there, and whether these videos are real
or not, it doesn't mean they don't exist.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Right, It's just like anything else. You know, we always
talk about things. You have a big foot encounter. I
never have. I've never seen one personally, but that doesn't
mean it didn't exist because I haven't seen it.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
M H.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Exactly. And drift Speed says you can run video and
photo through programs to detect AI and CGI absolutely, and
that is I. I did not do that because I
don't know what the programs are, right, But I need
I need to start with we all as researchers, anyone
who's a researcher in here a podcast, we all need
to learn this, like we need to be able to
get that those programs and run these things, especially, as

(50:14):
you know, I don't show a ton of people's evidence
and stuff is on my show. I mean I do,
I do occasionally, but that's why I try to only
bring people I trust on my shows, y'all. Okay, and
in some of my own research. Friends.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Jane mentioned it the other day though, It's like, how
do you trust the programs they're telling us that it's
AI or not AI? Because those are AI programs. So
how do you know it's not a psyop or somebody
you know, trying to steer us one way or another
on certain videos or pictures.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Oh man, trust no one, trust nobody, y'all.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
You can't trust AI.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
You can't. AI is trying to trick everybody to.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Be honest with you. You can trust AI in general to
get a lot of things wrong if you listen critically,
AI makes a lot of mistakes.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Puck Houses, my AI told me it is not a I.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
Robots, just like you said earlier.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
Though.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
The only thing I know is that we have all
these reports from Canada, North America, Central America. I mean
they're all over Mexico. I mean we have all these reports.
I mean even twenty twenty three who had the Riverside
monster in Illinois that was a reptilian frog like incident.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
What I haven't heard about that one.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
No monster if you look it up.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Huh, Well, it's.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Another one of six and seven feet tall. So a
lot of these reports are six and seven feet tall.
And I think, as far as I know, the loved
one is the only one that says three to four feet.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Well good, the taller ones are older. Don't reptilians and
alligators and things like that keep on growing, So it
could be the taller ones are older.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I think it's a different race, probably different races. I mean,
we hear about late reptilians all over the world, right,
I mean all over the world, and they all do
look kind of different. And uh and there was a
while back that I covered John, you and I discussed
the reptilian cave out of Vietnam, right.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, I just had thought about
that that that came from the lady from Toronto, that
was her father who took part of that during during
the Vietnam War. And yeah, and I think that is
and I'm looking here real briefly, I believe that that

(52:50):
is a story in uh yeah, in my book here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
the Vietnam story and that's that's a very credible story
that comes from servicemen. And there there's also an associated
mermaid story that they somehow caught in a net on

(53:15):
their way back. I mean, yeah, there's lots of stuff. Yeah.
In fact, Jessica, maybe we can sometime when you're running
short of a guest call me up and we will
talk about the Vietnam story and the Mermaid's story. That's that.
I think that's very interesting stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Actually, Oh absolutely, well it's a date, John, let's plan
on it, okay, And I would love to hear more
about that. Uh, they actually had pictures in this in
this cave and Vietnam. They actually had some pictures of
alleged reptilians in this cave. And and there's also one
picture I could not find it before the show, but

(53:53):
it's like a little person and uh, and they're crouched
down in this cave. Is an alleged picture out of
this cave, and it's just like a small stature humanoid,
looks like a little person but all green. Very to me,
it looked frog like actually in that cave. And like

(54:14):
I said, I couldn't find the picture. I know I've
got it somewhere. It's probably in my Patreon most likely,
but I'll find that. I'll try to maybe I'll try
to post it after the show today on my social media.
But yeah, they say that even to this day, tourists
go missing out of that cave. John, I'm pretty sure
in Vietnam. Oh, Now, I don't value you're taking them.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
I mean, let's face it, thanks to missing for one
running David Pilates, we have a lot more awareness of
people going missing just in the National Parks, right, we
knew and if if there was a different timeline, Teddy
Roosevelt might have gone missing when his camp was attacked

(55:03):
by bigfoot. I mean, you know, there's there's lots of
strange things that go on out there and people don't
discuss them, or they're not reported, or they're reported, and
no one wants to share the information.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
And that's a fact.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
That's the way that that's the way people are.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
M Yeah, I just saw who is that puck elp
just said never go caving without a pointy stick. You know,
that's one thing that that made me question that reptilian
frogman on the roof that we're talking about today, is
that nobody was like throwing anything at it or shooting it.
I hate to say that, but you know, if we

(55:41):
if that showed up down here in the South, I
guarantee you somebody try to they get there, they get
their boom boom stick out. Okay, yeah, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
There are four boys in a pickup truck with a
case of beer that would attack that thing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Who doesn't want frog legs from that thing? You know
how many people that feed.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
There's a taxidermy shop on every corner down here. Okay,
just saying.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Be nice, Jessica, you know that.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, I do know that. I mean, it's I'm just
being a realist at this point because it's like they
were so nobody was like provoking it. You know how
people are. People are terrible, normal humans are a lot
of humans can just be horrible people sometimes.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
And that.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Glasses of beer at it and everything.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
The servess, Yes, they would get thrown at that thing.
There was there was nobody throwing anything at it. And
there were no gunshots or nothing, you know what I mean,
no rocks and uh, and so I found that you
got to kind of think about stuff like that when
you see videos, because that was supposed to be surrounded
by the public. There are people out there, so.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, bringing that up about people shooting, and all the
reports always talk about when a monster or something unknown
shows up that the townsfolks always go and get their
guns and chase after it. You know, how would you
like to come to Earth as maybe a peaceful entity
and all of a sudden, the townsfolks are chasing you

(57:14):
twenty guns and twenty sticks and whoever knows pitchforks like
Frank and they want to make barbecue out of you.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, well that would be a reason not to go. Okay,
that would be a reason not to show themselves for sure.
And and something I have a couple of other things
I wanted to kind of cover today because there's some
some weird things going on right now and we're wondering, like, well,
if that video is real, if it's real, or if
it's not real, if it's aar or not. It doesn't

(57:44):
really matter, honestly, because I do think these things. I mean,
it does matter, but it doesn't, okay, because we do
know these things exist, you know, we there's plenty of
whistleblowers that have come out to talk about reptilians and
and just everyday people have any encounters Chris, was it
Christopher out in Bishopville, John, South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris, the gentleman that saw the lizard
Man and had that first experience with him.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yes, his car was attacked, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yes it was. And then if you notice when he
came back out with the story when he was in
his early forties, he all of a sudden was murdered.
You know, there seems to be a little bit of
a pattern when witnesses get murdered. Sounds like something out

(58:43):
of politics.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It does. Christopher Davis, Thank.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
You, Chris David.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
You know, yeah, just make him disappear, nothing to.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
See her, right, Yeah, Well, rest in peace to him
because that is uh, it's just really sad. Uh. Okay,
I I have something that I came across that I
thought was really it kind of connects to all this,
I think, and and I'm not sure if this is
gonna pull up on my screen, but I'm gonna try. Okay,
and gosh durn it, y'all know, I have the worst

(59:17):
issues with my with my computers. But there's a rare
disorder where people are seeing there. They're used to call
it the demon face syndrome. Do you'all remember that the
demon face syndrome.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
Well, now, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
They're calling it dragon face syndrome. Oh ah, okay, now
why on earth? This is from Discover magazine dot com. Okay, Uh,
there is a rare disorder where people see other faces
as dragons and uh and it kind of this this

(59:53):
stems from the the demon face syndrome. Now, the demon
face syndrome just came about last year as far as
I know, within the past year or so. And this
is where people were was it was brought to the
public's attention that people were having encounters. It was like
a disorder that people would have encounters with people whose

(01:00:16):
ears would get pointy and their teeth would get sharp,
and their face would turn into what they described as
a demon. And now they're saying that their faces turned
into dragons. Now this is highly suspicious to me, y'all.
I'm just saying, let me scroll down here a little bit.

(01:00:37):
I'm just going to read a couple of lines from this. Okay.
In twenty eleven, a fifty two year old woman arrived
at a psychiatric clinic in the Hog or the Hague
in the Netherlands with a rare and peculiar disorder. Within
minutes of setting eyes on someone, their face would mysteriously
morph into that of a dragon. I mean to me,

(01:01:00):
that sounds like reptilian shape shifters. Okay, yeah, it says
that researchers described the symptoms in a study published in
The Lancet. While the woman was able to recognize faces,
according to the study, in just minutes they turned black,
grew long, pointy ears and a protruding snout, and displayed

(01:01:23):
a reptiloid skin and huge eyes in bright yellow, green, blue,
and red. This wasn't an occasional occurrence. It would happen
multiple times a day, and it wasn't just faces that
triggered her symptoms. The paper explained she saw similar dragon
like faces drifting towards her many times a day from
the walls, electrical sockets, or the computer screen, in both

(01:01:48):
the presence and absence of face like patterns, and at
night she saw many dragon like faces in the dark. Okay, well,
that makes it a little more like psychological sounding, you know,
I guess right, But also I don't know how many
times have we covered shape shifting reptilians on the show.

(01:02:09):
And it seems as though maybe there's some sort of
effort to me take this down to kind of explain
why we might be seeing reptilian faces occasley or people
shape shifting. At this point, they're they're putting this out
into the public. It's almost like a cushion to be like, Okay,

(01:02:30):
well we've got these you guys just have this disorder. Okay, sure,
fault it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Is more coming. Are they going to release more? Or
I mean, are they desensitizing us?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
And that's what it seems like, Jessica. If you could
send me the reference to that so that I could
see that article, I could probably chase down some of
the people that wrote it and talk to them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Yes, absolutely, I would love to. And uh and yes, Damien,
this is a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
John.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Remember about a year or two ago, the lady on
the airplane jumped up and said, I'm telling you right
now that effort is not a human right, They're not really.
That was a lady on the airplane. Apparently there was
some sort of shapeshift. You're sitting beside her, so I

(01:03:23):
don't know, I'm taking notes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Not I mean how I mean, if you have the
Loveland frog Man and you have the lizard people from
either Shasta, La or Mexico, how far fest is it
that you would see a dragon head? I mean, you're
already talking about something that has scales and it's a reptile.
How far off is it to see a dragon almost

(01:03:49):
the same almost the same kind of shape, and except
for maybe the snout.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Well, they're calling it dragon face syndrome because they don't
want to say reptilian face syndrome. That's what I think. Yeah,
I don't want to make it too obvious. Well, and plus,
anytime that word reptilian gets said, especially here on our
broadcasting channels here, he gets flagged with Wikipedia immediately puts

(01:04:18):
a warning underneath my videos, which we're gonna have one today,
no doubt. I put money on it. We're gonna get
one of those. It may already be there because you know,
and I asked, I have a someone that I know
I've known my whole life. Let's just say, okay, who
is a used to be? I don't know what he

(01:04:39):
does now, but he made a lot of money being
a Facebook fact checker, y'all, And he's he's doing something else. Now,
it's just censorship basically, is what that is. But but
but I asked him one I was like, why why
do all my videos get flagged for saying that word,
you know, for any reptilian? And he was like, oh, well,

(01:05:00):
the way we see it is that he's a We
like he's the authority, you know, is a it's actually racist,
is what he said. And there's like a certain I
guess you call it racial group or something. I don't know.
I'm not gonna say it on here. Okay, so but
it's but it's a it's a it's a slur basically,

(01:05:20):
is what he said. Oh, by calling someone by saying
something's reptilian, he said. And I was like, that doesn't
make any sense, but I don't know, maybe it does.
I'm just I'm just naive or I don't know better,
but I never heard that before.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Don't make funnel lizard, people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Don't make fun because yeah, that's right, Jester, this is John.
I'm gonna have to bow out because I've got to
get up to Franklin to work on promoting the Bigfoot
comic con on uh January thirty first, and I appreciate
you having me, and good to see my fellow fellow
friends that know a lot about this. And I'll get

(01:05:57):
up with you lady this week. We'll talk about it
a show where we can do some of these things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Okay, Oh, and John, we need to advertise as well.
The comic cons I'm going to be at in is
that February.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
February twenty first will be the West Western North Carolina
Comic Con at Western Carolina University in Kollaween, North Carolina.
H Jessica Jones and Mark Munsey keynote speakers. It's going
to be a blast. We've got uh, Matt delf We've
got John Price from Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
Moved on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
I'll be there lots of lots of cool stuff and
a full fledged comic con. So from the Western Carolina
University and come see Jessica Jones, Decryptid Huntress.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Thank you, John, Thank you for being here. We'll talk soon. Okay,
thank you for being John.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Let me take John down here, there we go. That
was wonderful having John here. Y'all. Yeah, I'm glad that
he stopped by, and he is he is one of
the authorities that I have in my in my friend
group on the Lizard Man and the frog Wind, so
so that was wonderful. But uh but yeah, y'all, there's

(01:07:09):
there's there's been some some reason. There's been multiple reasons.
I was told this one reason as to why you know,
we shouldn't talk about reptilians too much, it's because of this.
This is what the fact checkers are told, right, and
that's why they had to censor that word. Okay, but
but I think it could be. I think there's always
there's always something else to it, in my opinion, and

(01:07:31):
I think it's because I think our world probably didn't run.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
By them if they're embedded in the powers to be.
I mean, why wouldn't you censor reports off if they're
real reports of such things, and you would you would
probably tend to steer that that away from it. And
you know, we see all the celebrities that start shape

(01:07:56):
shifting and their faces contort. You've had many shows on
that and their eyes start changing. Well, how many of
those are actually reptilians?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Well, you know it's it's kind of a nice little
deep rabbit hole you can go down because we got
the real lizard parasites and all that kind of stuff too,
and man to me, I start, you know, thinking about
this and it's just overwhelming because it's almost like everybody,
like all of Hollywood. It seems like all bunch of

(01:08:27):
politicians and whoever, just people that are like celebrities. I
guess they're all part of those like black Eye clubs
and stuff. Like are they all getting droned or what
is that? I think that's what you call it. With
the with the lizards, and like, I mean, where does
this beginning? Where does this end?

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
I hope it ends eventually, I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
So it's wild. In the meanwhile, we're gonna sit around
scouring TikTok for these videos, y'all, okay, and bringing it
to y'all, bringing it to the public, or at least
the cruited huntress and the mid West night watchers viewers,
because yeah, I mean I think that the public. Maybe

(01:09:08):
they're just getting ready for the public to see this
in real life, okay, And these could all be like
psyops and stuff too, putting it out there because they
want and I say, they like the controllers of this
matrix reality we live in. Let's just say that, right,
maybe they want to prepare everybody to to blur those

(01:09:29):
lines between reality and fantasy. Before all this really starts
coming out to get us used to it, to get
the general public used to seeing this kind of stuff.
It's a slow rollout, but it's kind of speeding up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Right now, conditioning everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
We've all, we've all watched Land of the Loss and
the sleeve stacks. We don't we don't have to have
them desensitize us. We've already seen them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Sleeve stacks. Yeah, yes, So I don't know with all
these uh you know, large hadron colliders and ion colliders
and cern and you know the Department of Energy. I mean,
we just had Stranger Things come out. I'm a little
disappointed in Stranger Things that got a little weird okay

(01:10:13):
this last season, and we're not gonna go there, all right,
But maybe maybe I started thinking, I was like, maybe
these shows like Stranger Things are not really for kids.
I don't know, I don't think so, but I thought
they were. But I don't know, not anymore, Like I
don't even know if I want my kid watching some
of this stuff. But but anyways, yeah, but yeah, you know,

(01:10:36):
with this disclosure mon talk, I mentioned Montalk was in
my my data for the Loveland Frogmen, the mon Talk project.
You know, that's what Stranger Things is based off of, right,
and and and they definitely had strange creatures coming in
and out of the upside down, you know, from these
projects they're working on and this technology they're using, and uh,

(01:11:00):
I don't know. I just think that they're rolling it
all out right now for the public. And maybe these
lizard people are part of it. Maybe we are going
to start seeing real lizard people. Maybe they're going to
start exposing themselves more. And their crystalline technology is breaking down.
They can't stay hidden anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I mean, you mentioned the lady that was seeing dragon
faces and stuff coming out of electricity and out of
the computers and stuff. All Stranger Thing talks about the
upside down world where stuff like that happens all the time,
where all of a sudden, one world and the other
world kind of meld together and mix a little bit.

(01:11:36):
So how do we know some of them is not dimensional?

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
They are? I think they are. I think they are interdimensional.
I mean, and Barry's been on the show talking about
his and he's got wonderful videos on his channel. Barry
Lyttleton on YouTube. Y'all. Barry's talked about some of those
machines that cause aliens to show up in rooms, like
those MRI machines at the hospital. You know, there's some

(01:12:01):
kind of frequency, there's something that opens up Dare I say,
portals for these entities to come in and out of
even our cell phones like these black the black mirrors, right?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
I'm just thinking, is it frequency that people are raising
their vibration and frequency and they are starting to see
more truth than others mm hmm, And that's where we
get reports.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
So just like just like Bigfoot, I mean, I think
we have to look at this like, Okay, is a
lizard man, a reptilian, a frogman? Are they do they
have dimensional abilities?

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Is it all of them or is it only some
of them? Are they are some of them flesh and blood?
I mean, because we had the report from the Santiago
River in Mexico where the hunter was out there along
the river hunting small animals and all of a sudden
he was picked up rocks and there was a shadow
come across them. There was a big lizard man or
frog man standing over top of them, and it actually

(01:13:06):
touched them. And he said it felt kind of cold
and wet, and like he thought a frog or a
lizard would feel like. So was that? What was that? Interdimensional?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I think?

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Question? What does it touch them?

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Yeah? Well, you know, I think I think a lot
of these things are interdimensional. I mean when I first
started speaking publicly on my bigfoot research, I said, you know,
I believe that there's an element of them being interdimensional.
But what does interdimensional mean? Exactly right? You know, like
being able to change your frequency? I mean, are they
stepping into a portal? And you know, is it all
a matter of dream state or something? You know, and

(01:13:46):
like we're just at a different consciousness level.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
I mean, they're all the dimensional just right here, and
it's just different frequencies, don't know, not like you have
to travel to a different dimension.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Right right? Well, okay, as far as those frog frog
people go, the Loveland frogmen, I have my remote viewing
data right here. I have four targets, and we were
talking about them. Did how are they traveling? How are
they getting where they're going? Well, they were seen with wands,
like a magical wand or something. Also like the men

(01:14:20):
in Black are said to carry those little mind wiping wands.
You know, like the little thing the handheld looks like
a looks like a pin. It was like something like this.
And then but those frogs were carrying those and they
had sparks coming out of them like fireworks. And my
one of my targets was described the WAND and its
purpose that the frogmen held above its head in Loveland, Ohio,

(01:14:44):
the night of May fifth, nineteen fifty five. That was
a target. And the remote viewing data includes electric ball,
like electrical ball like those things you get at Spencer's
Gifts or hot topping back in the day, like the
static electricity balls He's put your hand on and it
goes to your hand. And so weaponry white white hot

(01:15:11):
weaponry experiment job to do close encounter some sort of
a device. I was picking up on some sort of
time traveling stuff with this data, right, and uh, and
whatever that WAND was had to do, I mean, and
the previous targets for this had three other targets. It
included Montalk, the Montalk project data and uh, and I'm like, well,

(01:15:34):
could these be I know it's ridiculous, but could they
be time travel traveling frogs? Interdimensional going through portals? I
don't know, I don't know that's what the data says, though, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Well, we brought up, uh, we brought up a picture.
I don't know if it was on your show. We
definitely did it on a night out lounge on our
channel or in an old book. They showed the nights
with their soul words and they were getting energy and
lightning basically electricity or power from the ether. Yes, so

(01:16:08):
how do we know the frogs that are holding up
the wands or any other reptilians aren't using the same
kind of power. Maybe maybe that's how they energize to
go and inter dimensional or from world to world.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Or Okay, that's a great point. And have you guys
seen the videos, you know, I watched the Improbable Dreamer.
I follow him on Instagram and Facebook and stuff. He
does wonderful research all and it's all about like the
Tartarian Empire and all the things, all the hidden history
that we've had he's uncovered. He uncovers a lot of

(01:16:44):
so so does my lunch break and all John Levi
and all these these are some wonderful researchers. Y'all goes
check out their channels, go support them, and I think
it was the Improbable Dreamer had some posts where they
were showing it looked like plasma balls kind of like
how I'm describing, but they were using the ether, I
guess people's homes. They were facetiming people. It almost looked

(01:17:08):
like a ghost was like, and I don't know if
this stuffs real, but why wouldn't it be kind of
like Uh, they were able to like almost project like
something you see in Star Wars, like the Holograms, okay,
into people's homes of their loved ones, whoever they were
talking to.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
So Animal's Mud Fossil had one yesterday. Did you see
that one about the giant Dragon Mountain?

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
I miss that one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Checked that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:38):
It just came out yesterday, and it does look like
a giant dragon.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yeah, it looks like a fossilized dragon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Crazy. It reminds me of the show that we were doing. Really, Yeah,
yesterday's video of mud Fossil or mud Fossil University whatever
it's called.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Oh, mud Fossil University with Roger. I still I keep
saying I need to get him on my show.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
I think I.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Think I have reached out to him once, I think,
but I need to I need to reach out to
him and have a conversation with him about the Alabama Dragon.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, that'd be a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yeah, Okay, okay, I have I have one more thing
that I want to go over, y'all. Okay, and let's see.
Let me take that down. I don't know if I'm
going to be able to share this screen. If I can,
I'll just read it. This is kind of weird. Okay.
Back in twenty twenty, there was a man out of
Nashville who set off a bomb. Okay, now I know

(01:18:35):
this is it's a little bit out there too. Okay,
everything I say is out there, everything we talk about.
But uh, but there are reptilian ties to the story. Okay,
and Nashville Christmas date bo M B E R. You're
not there's certain things you don't want you to say
on right to But I think I cross all the
boundaries already. But he wanted an explosion to break the

(01:18:58):
reincarnation loop, he said, And I wanted to show this today.
This was back in twenty twenty. Actually, let's see if
I can share my screen. Hold on, give me one minute.
We're gonna see if this works. If it doesn't, I'll
just read the article to you, guys, this is for
entertainment purposes only. Thank you, mareen. This is for entertainment

(01:19:22):
purposes only. I always I almost forgot to say that.
And uh, let's see here we go. Okay, let me
pull it up to the top. Here it says Nashville
Christmas Day bomber, I guess wanted explosion to break the
reincarnation loop. Okay. Now this gentleman set off. Now there's

(01:19:46):
it's questionable because it's a little suspicious. Some people think
that maybe he was kind of set up. Okay, because
this man claimed, y'all. And the reason I wanted to
bring this up because this man claimed to have technology
to e reptilians out in the woods. Okay. And and

(01:20:07):
I find this interesting because the woods that he's describing
are at the Montgomery Bell State Park. Now, guess what
said Montgomery Bell State Park in Tennessee. Where were wolf springs?

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
Oh wow, all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Right, that's wear a wolf springs. Now it says this
is this is a recent article, I believe, but it
said the lead FBI agent who investigated the Christmas Day
twenty twenty bombing is speaking publicly for the first time
about Anthony Warner's motives, revealing the bombers reasons for setting
off this the s bomb okay on Second Avenue, and
his desire to break what he called a reincarnation loop.

(01:20:44):
He said he chose Second Avenue because of personal and
professional connections to the street from his younger ears years,
and he had explosives in his RV. They said, okay,
well that's that's what happened, is very very unfortunate. All right, Well,
this is what I found interesting. Amongst other stuff, It says,
the photos show his strange behavior in the woods. Now

(01:21:06):
he was out there, he had a friend of his
girlfriend or a good friend of his would go out
in the woods with him at Montgomery Bell State Park.
And he had this what you see in his hands
right there. That is some sort of device that he
had that he claimed allowed him to see reptilians in
the woods.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
And this was part of what was causing his I mean,
of course, the media is making him out to be
like a total crackpot is that a word? A looney tune, right,
and a very dangerous conspiracy theorist is what they were saying.
Because I actually was watching some of these some of
these interviews and stuff, and I thought that it was

(01:21:47):
that it was kind of interesting. Okay, but okay, So
Werner had a device that could see reptilians in the woods.
He spent time looking at Montgomery Bell's State Park. He
wrote about reptilians and deep underground mills Terry Basis. He
also wrote about breaking the reincarnation loop, needing a high
energy event to do that. Now, that's what they say

(01:22:08):
that he did when he had his RV explode out
there in Nashville, and they said that he actually had
gone around and evacuated everyone from the area. He said
before before it happened, he asked everybody to leave, and
so he didn't want to hurt anybody. He just wanted
to go on his own, apparently, but he needed a
high energy event, so he set off explosion an explosion

(01:22:29):
in Nashville, Tennessee, and like I said, he evacuated the
area before he died. The law enforcement officials that were
interviewed made a point to label anyone that believes in
reptilians as a crazy conspiracy theorist. If you watch any
of these interviews and these documentaries done about it, they
are like, oh, they're just dangerous people absolutely crazy for

(01:22:51):
believing this stuff, you know, and people like him are
danger I mean they're literally saying people like him were
It was obviously dangerous. He's going to set off you know,
bombs and stuff, right, but uh but at the same time,
I don't know it was was he was he super crazy?
What do y'all think? I don't know. It's loaded question there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
I think that you would have to generate enough uh
energy to disrupt it, just like if a portal shows
up you've had you've seen the portal in the meadow
and we've seen portals out in the fields behind us.
That that is an energy and a frequency. So you
would have to disrupt that somehow, and a bomb could
possibly do it. But I think you'd be more affected

(01:23:34):
to have like an E MF explosion more than a
percussion or a normal normal explosive.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Mm hmm, well hmmm, well, there was there were some strange,
strange things about his uh his death and stuff too,
and that's all. You know, you guys can look more
into this if y'all want. There was a there were
there were people that had called into nine one one
saying that there was someone There were gunshots, there were
around of three gunshots, three bursts of gunshots in a

(01:24:06):
in a house or an apartment building right there. And
so they think that it was maybe a setup or
people were trying to cover up whatever he was doing,
and he was taken out, okay. And and so there's
there's some controversy behind all that. So, like I said, y'all,
just look all that up. I don't know a whole
lot about this case. I just thought it would be
interesting to bring this up, just because we're talking about uh, reptilians,

(01:24:31):
you know, not not it doesn't have to do a frogman,
but you know, the reptilian aspect, and the fact that
he had some kind of technology. He claimed he could
see these reptilians out of a state park. Okay. And
uh and and we've we've covered the daysian and digoggles before, right,
interdimensional viewing technology as they call it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Then, Uh, then we have the recent stories of the
contexts that were supposed to have night vision or let
you see you know, at night, and they were ended
up seeing d demons and other stuff dislike the designing goggles.
But they had to they had to take them and
turn dislike the military where they went from the red
to the green because they have green. Now that doesn't

(01:25:12):
show you the demons. That's what they're doing with the
contexts now. And I've heard that the VR sets now
they're going to start trying to emulate so we can
see in the other frequencies of the light spectrum that
we can't see, like the I R, the UV outside.
So who knows what's going to show up when we
start using VR goggles to electronically see into the other dimensions.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Well, was he trying to blow the reptilian creatures up
with the bomb since he was seeing them set his reincarnation.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Loop, right, Yeah, he wanted to stop the reincarnation loop.
And you know, and that's something else that we hear
about a lot. I know, you know, Barry likes to
talk about the reincarnation stuff and you know, soul traps
and that's how people Those are kind of hot topics
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Sold yeah, uh, you know what I mean, Just like
the Queen of England and the people of Power talking
about soul swapping where they have a younger person where
they actually swap their soul so they continue on living.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Uh yeah, that's anciousness transfers and stuff too, and yes, Bonnie,
was he trying to wake people up? That? That's a
good question.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I think he was just trying to get out of
the reincarnation loop. Okay, so maybe probably so, though probably
so it would I knew he I'm sure he knew
it would bring attention to whatever he was talking about,
whatever he was doing right, whatever his mission was. But uh,
but yeah, I don't know. It's got us talking about it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
I Mean, it's just like the assigning goggles. Once they
started seeing the demons or the creatures, they couldn't unsee him.
Even even after they took the goggles away, they were
still worried and seeing in their minds. So it almost
drives you crazy if you can't get out of that.
And maybe that's what he was stuck in. Maybe maybe
once he opened his eyes and was able to see

(01:27:17):
the reptilians or whatever creatures he was seeing, maybe he
wanted to unstop seeing him. Maybe it wasn't reincarnation at all.
Maybe he just wanted to get out of that loop
of seeing those reptilians all the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Time he had he had dragonface syndrome. Yeah, probably, okay,
And I say that kind of I hate to say joking,
but you know, kind of tongue and cheek there. But
maybe maybe that's not really just a disorder, you know,
maybe maybe it's real, right, And he's a he's an

(01:27:49):
example of that. Of course, he was going and looking
for them. He was he was on a almost like
on a mission to go look for them. They say
that we can only see, like our eyesight only allows
us to see like four percent of everything that's actually
in front of our faces. Okay, as humans, so we
can't see everything that's in front of us. And if
if we did have this technology, we do have this technology.

(01:28:09):
Look at people who drive teslas, you know, they have
those little cameras, those little screens in their car where
they can see people walking around outside their vehicles that
we can't see. You can't see with your naked eye.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
I still would like to rent one sometime and drive
through a cemetery and see see for myself what it's showing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Shoot, cemetery. I want to park it in front of
my house.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Well, the guy, the one guy on TikTok actually is
every time he pulls up to us house, there's like
these entities or these people walking around in his garage.
There's nobody there, nobody home. Oh wow, because they're having
like a party in my garage where I'm not home, Callie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
That would be horrible. That's why I do not turn
on any ghost hunting equipment in my house. I just
won't because I honestly, it's better just not to know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Sometimes or does it attract them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
And it attracts them? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Then, I mean it's just like when you're a medium
or a psychic and you have that ability, you start
drawing to me and say, hey, there's a new person
over here that can hear us and see us and
maybe they can help us. You know, they just it's
just like a magnet you draw them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Oh man, my sister got a little upset about something.
Let me let me. I'll tell you the story after.
I think Terry, thank you so much Terry for being here.
Is think you that superstigart tells it the sonic Voyage
job over there and subscribe to his YouTube channel. Please,
happy holidays, my friend. Thank you, Terry. I appreciate that.
It's Terry Brownyaw and I appreciate you so much. Terry.
I hope you had a wonderful holiday. Okay, So my sister,

(01:29:47):
I was. She actually invited me to go on this
trip with them. They went up to Tennessee. You know,
they've got the side by side and stuff, and they'd
invited me to go up there with them and ride
side by sides for a weekend. And I didn't. I
didn't end up going, but they were going on a
ghost tour of a haunted prison up there, and uh,
and I sent, I gave them some of I'd let

(01:30:07):
my niece bar some of my ghost hunting equipment that
I take big footing sometimes and I don't really use
it very often. It's like a K two meter and
recording devices and stuff. And uh. And my sister said,
they got this huge airbnb out there in the Tennessee
Mountains and uh. She said that they everything was all cool,
but they felt kind of uneasy in this house and

(01:30:30):
they felt like it was haunted or something, because she
said that she kept waking up at night and uh,
there would be footsteps in the bedroom and like someone
was walking around their bed at night and you could
hear it, and they'd turn the light on. There'd be
nobody there, but there'd be like a shadow in the
corner or something, and she said that she had that
ghost honting equipment there and she said that all this

(01:30:50):
activity kept occurring around my ghost hunting equipment. Ohh and
they and it took her a minute to realize that
it was the ghost Honey equipment that these things were
attracted to. She thought that was that was her, that
was like what she concluded was that it was because
of that ghost hunting equipment and uh, and other people
like one of the guys that was there, he actually

(01:31:12):
woke up and he was being held down and couldn't move.
I could st up like he felt like there was
someone pushing down on his body into the bed and uh.
And several of them saw shadowy figures in the corners
of the rooms at this house. It was weird. I
was kind of disappointed that I didn't go, but at
the same time, I'm kind of glad I didn't. But
it was but they were convinced it was from that

(01:31:32):
equipment being there, the ghost hunting devices, and and I
asked her, I was like, well, do you turn it on?
She goes, heck, no, I didn't turn it on. They
wanted to talk. Yeah, I was like, you should have
had a conversation with it. But uh, but but that
that begs the question like is a is it going
to make it worse if you start communicating with it?

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Or I don't know you need it. That's why I
said you need to like make sure you're not going
to a haunted air. It should be listed there on
the advertisement. But I don't know. In this case, I
think all houses are haunted at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Okay, well, how can it not be. I mean, every
house unless you build it brand new yourself. But that
doesn't mean nothing traumatic has ever happened on the land
that you build your house on, right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Yeah, my mom's house is built on top of a
well and like an old well. So there's her house.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Yeah, who knows what they threw down there was?

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
Well, I don't say that. My mom's probably watching. She's
gonna be upset.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Now you guys got you guys got to explore the well.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Now, well, you know, her house has never been hot
and her house is about one hundred and fifty years old.
It's in the historical area of the town she lives in.
And uh, in the there's there's never been a lot
of ghost activities that I'm aware of, Like my mom's
had some weird stuff that's happened in that house.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
But one day I was in her house. I was
in her kitchen and I turned around like I was
facing the wall, like towards the oven, and I turned
around briefly there was a woman standing behind me, and
she was and I thought it was my mother at first,
but she was too short to be my mom, and uh,
and she had on a bathrobe and stuff, and I
realized it was a little old lady standing there. And

(01:33:21):
it was just for a split second there was a
woman standing there, and then she was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Gone, Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Yeah. So I don't know, but you know, it's the
same house where you know, my brother was living there
when he died in his car accident, and so I
always just assume, well, maybe my you know, he might
haunt the place sometimes or something. But he's never been there.
We've never I don't think we've ever. I don't think
my mom's really encountered my brother being there, but this
old lady, yes, and he's need there to be a
lot more activity, being an old house and being built

(01:33:50):
on top of a well like that, you know, So
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Know, there's always a possibility, you know, like I said,
you know how many old house is. You know they
used to have the the wakes in the house, and
most people died in their bed in their own house.
So I mean there's always that possibility, but it doesn't
necessarily mean it's going to happen. And not not all
not all sprites or spiritual or things like that happened

(01:34:17):
or want to hont Sometimes they just move on. They
don't they don't want to stick around.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Yeah, I don't want to stick around. I don't know,
unless I want to haunt some people and have some
fun for a little while.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
I would not you pass away. I think your spirit
is still going to be out in the woods checking
everything out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Oh yeah, well, I used to say. When I was younger,
I was like, well, you know, when I die, well
I'll know all the answers and everything in the universe,
and i'll know for sure Bigfoot was real, and I'll
know if this and that. And I said that when
I was a kid, and then I started realizing I
can find out now, okay, And that's what really got
me into exploring the paranormal stuff. It was like, I
want to know now. I don't want to wait till

(01:34:56):
I did right, and I'm doing a good job of it,
I think right now. Let's see drift Speed says, open
the window. And Amuriel said to ignore them because it feeds.
They feed off that energy. And uh and I agree
with that. Ignore ignore the entities around and stuff if

(01:35:16):
you if you don't want them around, right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Because once you pay attention to them, they realize because
you're putting energy into them, because you're you're acknowledging them,
and they can pick up on that energy. They know that,
just like in the Vietnam the signing goggles. Once they
put them on and once they looked at the demons,
then all of a sudden, the demons turned and looked
at them because so they knew that somebody was viewing them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Oh gosh, well let's see. Uh. Leah says, I was
told that you can be harvested if you see and
agree that they exist like dog man Retillians. So if
you see weird crap, pretend you don't. Sounds like a
rule out of the Appalachians.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
And see it. Maybe that's why they don't acknowledge stuff
like that in the Appalachians. It's because once you acknowledge
it it becomes real realm.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Yeah, that's why you don't use names. That's why you
don't acknowledge stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
And you don't go outside in the dark.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Unless you're me and I go outside in the dark. Yeah. Well, well,
my goodness, this has been a wonderful, wonderful discussion today, y'all.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this. And I'll started off with
a frog man on top of a ten.

Speaker 4 (01:36:33):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Just don't know about that. I don't know about that video, y'all.
I swear the first one that I saw looked so real,
and then all the sub subsequent that's the word spit
it out started looking a little different. Like there's even
those videos of it opening its mouth and like screaming
and beating on the roof right and hopping around. That
just doesn't look real to me. But the videos that

(01:36:59):
we show today, the one you had, girl, that look
that looked real, you know, I thought so too.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
I Mean, like I said, I kinda I kind of
got in my own head when I started seeing everybody
talking about Ai not AI. So then I started watching
more and more videos. Then it's like I started getting
them all confused. So I had to go back to
the beginning to find the original ones I released I
thought were original ones, to try to to try to
see what those videos actually looked like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Yeah, well you did a wonderful job and doing your
doing your research on that girl and YouTube. Jane, thank
y'all so much for just being here today and sharing
your thoughts on all that. And I mean, there's no
doubt there are strange creatures in this world right now.
Whether whether those are real ones on those videos, I
can't say. I can't say, but I don't know. It's uh,

(01:37:50):
it's just something fun to look into, y'all. And and
ENGINEB thank you so much for that super Stickret. I
appreciate your your support so much. Thank you for being
here today. And yeah, I don't know. I saw a
big foot dwarf and said something about that man. The
man who was the Nashville bomber came back as a
as a reptilian. That's what he said. He came back

(01:38:11):
as a lizard man in the reincarnation cycle. I hope not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
I don't know. This is it's just kind of like
another piece of all this big puzzle that maybe we're
kind of collectively putting together. Here, and I don't know.
I don't know if this puzzle will ever be completed. Yeah,
maybe it's not meant to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
I think it's like a never ending puzzle.

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Will we ever figure it out?

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
I don't think it's meant to be completely put together.
I mean, what good would we be, you know, for
we wouldn't have podcasts and stuff if we didn't have
questions still about everything. If they showed everybody tomorrow that
everything's real, Like, what kind of fun is that? I
guess I'd love exploring.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
It's just like everything else that we always talk about.
The more digging, the more investigation you do, you think
you're going to solve something or find an answer, and
you end up revealing more stuff that you don't know
anything about and have to look into. I mean, it's
just never ending cycle. It's fun, it's great, it's fantastic.
We do learn certain things, but there's always more mystery,

(01:39:14):
more more inquiries that we need to find than to
look into.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Oh yeah, the rabbit holes go deep over here. That's right,
thank you. I hope you have a good, wonderful New
year too, y'all. I hope everybody has a wonderful New
year and thank you, Christopher. It's a rabbit hole, and
we go through rabbit portals over here. It's bigger than
a bigger than just a whole we go through rabbit portals.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Be careful on how much you'd drink in a few
nights on New Year's you might see frogman.

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Oh yes, oh man, y'all, please be careful, Please be
careful out there. That's what I'm saying too, is like
that if that lizard man frogman that's on top of
the roof is like in cancoon or somewhere like near
the ocean out there, I would assume people, I'm just saying,
maybe drinking. Why Why did nobody throw something at it?

(01:40:06):
I don't poke at it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:08):
I would have thought they would have. I would in
my in my younger days, I would have thrown a beer,
a rock, something. I mean, you know, it just came
to my head. You know, we're talking about frogs and stuff,
and you just said about the bigfoot dwarf or whoever
talked about the bomber coming back as a frog man.

(01:40:31):
What about the what about the children's story about where
you kissed the frog and turn into a prince?

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Oh oh oh, I mean, how far back.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Does that go that they were already talking about, kind
of like a frogman kind.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
Of deal, and they come back as a prince or
a king or a queen or any other type of.

Speaker 5 (01:40:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
Oops.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
I used to always I used to always say, I've
kissed I've kissed a lot of frogs in my day. Okay,
and uh so I'm an expert on that. Okay, a
lot of frogs, A lot of frogs, princes, princess, that's right,
that's right, a lot of frogs, No princess. But yeah,
there that is an interesting connection there, like frog people, reptilians,

(01:41:19):
who and royalty?

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
A right?

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Absolutely, man, Just it's been in our faces all along. Yeah,
I feel like Scooby Doo or some mysteries over here.
The mask off, Yeah, pulled the reptilian mask off. Yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
You might not want to see what's underneath that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Yeah, you don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
What what underneath the mask. No, there's more of a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Bully hunting, bearses, frogs, toad slizards, and dragon faces.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Oh my, it was Kermit.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
Before we go out, I wanted to bring up one
other thing that we were told by somebody. I don't
know if they're in chat or not they could be,
but that certain sasquatches have a blue ball that has
like the lightning like you're talking about the energy balls,
and they were part of an ET technology that allowed them,

(01:42:17):
the ETS, to keep track of sasquatch, but also that
they can use them for interdimensional and be able to
time travel. So I wonder if the fragment and their
wands and the orbs and all that have any connection
with that kind of technology.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Man, Yeah, I wouldn't see why not. I mean, and
we talk about Yeah, we talked about the government using
our cryptis. Nick selvestersbound the show plenty of times talking
about that, about how the government uses at least thirteen
twelve or thirteen eleven different types of cryptids for different reasons, right,

(01:42:52):
And if they're at Montalk or plumb Island or you
know the labs oak Ridge Land. We talked about Brookhaven Labs,
all these Department of Energy places. I'm just saying this
is for entertainment purposes only, right, And.

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
Jane, Jane made an interesting point, uh, privately to us
we were discutt We always discussed this stuff, you know,
but a lot of times we don't talk about it
on air. But Jane made an interesting point. What about
four one one people, the missing people. What if it's
somebody like Sasquatch or Bigfoot that has this dimensional technology
and these balls or whatever the energy portals are. If

(01:43:30):
they grab you, can they take you into another dimension?
Can they hide you, cloak you so you don't see it.
You can walk right by them and it could still
be right there. But they're just cloak or interdimensional.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
Yeah, you don't hear them screaming or nothing. They got
pulled into a different dimension.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
Just like the upside down world and stranger things.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Yeah, there have been people that have talked about how
they've just seen arms coming through like portals out in
the middle of the woods before. Yeah, people, I think
humans are doing that. I think that's part of a
bigger program, right, you know. Yeah? Man, well, I mean
the possibilities are endless and.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
Or is it just somebody in span Dex costume Spanex?

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
We had to go there, didn't we?

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Oh yeah, a frog kind of is span Dex. I mean,
really you think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Stretchy, stretchy and sleep slippery little suckers. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
Carfast says cryptids have been used to guard and block
hidden military basis. Yes, and I mean were wolves as
well have been used to guard you know, even ritualistic
stuff with these elites. How do we know these elites
are not reptilian sheep shifters and they need to be
guarded by the wear wolf security teams and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
I mean right there. And then we have the certain
instances or reports where they say, like sasquatch, the flesh
and blood ones are are here to protect the lay
lines and the energy field. And maybe there's a portal
that got left open and they're supposed to be watching
to see what comes in and out and try to

(01:45:18):
protect us from evil. And so it goes both ways.
It could be the government program, it could be maybe
the elders or the first people that were here, the
Sasquatch are trying to protect the earth and mother nature,
all of the above.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Although cats are the protector of portals in your home.
Oh yeah, so I don't currently have a cat, but
I need to get a cat again one day soon, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
One day.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
That's why we have too many cats?

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Yeah, cats, cats will protect the portals in your home.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
And I never knew that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Wow, yep, I mean that's what I heard. I don't
know for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
Okay, but they are the original gatekeepers.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
Yes, they are, they are. They do serve a purpose
other than knocking your drink off the table.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Okay, drinking out of your toilets will turn into a portal. Yeah,
that's why cats like toilets.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
Oh yeah, gosh, it's always fun having you all on
the show. Thank you all so much for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
Oh thanks for having we enjoy coming on your show.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Well, thank you, thank you. Where can everybody find y'all?
Tell the audience about your YouTube channel Illinois, I mean online?

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
Well, well, we're not portaling around. You can find us
on YouTube at Midwest Night Watchers and also Facebook. We
have a Facebook page in a group for the Midwest
Night Watchers. Jane has her Cheero So, so you want
to tell them about your music channel, Jane.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
Yeah, I am Cheero Sounds on YouTube because I do
have a channel, which is a music channel. Not a
professional I'm just a crazy old lady that just has
fun with a bunch of different instruments and create some
rhythm and do a video and just upload them. My
recent one is with a hammer dulcimer and I did

(01:47:24):
Carol of the bells. So if you like strange, different instruments,
check out my channel.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
It is awesome. I shared out your video. I thought
it is amazing. Yes, it's uh. I just I love
the way it sounds. You're so talented and the music
is beautiful. And also you guys have those cameras around
your house too. If you guys are into wildlife and
farm animals and even just watching the sky and on
the beautiful wide open sky, go over to not only

(01:47:52):
Chierro Sounds on YouTube, but also Midwest Night Watcher.

Speaker 5 (01:47:55):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
Yeah, the beer are coming up almost every single night.
There's no as many critters, but you will still see
us gunk, coon or possum once in a while. Definitely
the fox. We have a brand new camera that is
a night vision camera, but it is color. It's color,
it's color, and it is amazing. I've got it pointed

(01:48:18):
to the garden and the very first deer came up
last night, so you can see the full color of
the deer. It just looked like daytime. So you haven't
got a new camera that I'll be using at night.
It's not named yet or anything, but yeah, it's a
night night vision collar camera and it's amazing. I'm impressed.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
And later this spring or summer, when the weather starts
getting a little nicer, where you may or may not
see videos of Jane and in her singing bowls late
at night, trying to see if we can hear anything
or attract anything with the frequencies from the singing bowls.
So we'll be doing those kind of videos coming up
this this summer or spring.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Oh my gosh, perfect I saw your video of your
little miniature screech owl. Is that a baby screech owl?

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
No, that's like.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
They're full size. They're only like seven handles. They're tiny
little owls.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
Oh my gosh, I didn't know they were that little.

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
It looks like a baby owl, don't they Can you
imagine what a baby looks like. They're probably real teen tiny.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
They make a lot of noise for being so little.

Speaker 4 (01:49:19):
Yeah, yeah they do. Yeah, that's our little maskcot. He
keeps showing up in the backyard and at the very
beginning you can see him on the fire pit. You
can see how tiny he is. But yeah, they're full
grown screech owls are real or really small.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
Oh my gosh, I did not know that. I did
not know that we are you sure it's an owl
because they say that that could be a screen memory
for an Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
I know, they say, don't dressed owls.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Jane touched it. It was on our front porch and
James reached out the screen door and touched it that
one night.

Speaker 4 (01:49:54):
Yeah, and then he flew away it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Let you touch it, man, that's a that's awesome. Well, goodness, gracious. Well,
I'm going to be tuned in some more for sure,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Check.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
I'm going to check out that camera. I need to
get me one of those cameras that is night vision
with color.

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
I'm really impressed.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Yeah, because we all subject can turn it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Over to color, but it's not really that color. M
So can you imagine the northern lights showing up with
this color? I mean you'll be able to see the
colored streaks and everything. So yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
We need we need to see if we can adjust
it to see skyrids and orbs and just like the
other cameras have been so we just got it. We're
experimenting with it, but so far we're really impressed with
the color for night vision.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Yeah. Oh my gosh, Well, I can't wait to see that, y'all.
And uh, and so thank you so much for for
putting that out there for all of us to watch
and to enjoy all your animals out there. And yeah,
and I hope all will come back and see me
in the new year. Gosh, were in a whole new
year in a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
Yeah, we'll come back anytime. Just let us know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
We just like you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
We love talking about many, many different subjects and interests,
so they fit right in. I think.

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
John too, it was Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
This summer we'll get a color video of some children
of the corn.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Oh god, I hope not. Maybe some bigfoots of the
corn out.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
There that maybe we'll see something through this time. Now
we've got a nice camera that's color at night, the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Little the little people of the corn, oh people of
the corn. Yes, you got to do your singing bowls
out there, Jane, and see what comes up for sure. Yes, Well,
thank y'all so much again for being here. Y'all. Go
subscribe to Midwest Night Watchers and chi Ro Sounds on
YouTube and also Bigfoot in Company. That's John's YouTube channel

(01:51:53):
and he that's the name of his YouTube channel. And uh,
and he's got some events coming up over there. With
oh my gosh, what is it scary? Casts and stuff
and all his events. So yeah, so thank you ton
doctor John Steamy for being here today as well, our
resident reptilian expert basically, and I know it's time to

(01:52:14):
go when the sun starts hitting me in my face
every day I get so it's time to close the
show down, y'all. Thank you to everybody who gave me
some super stickers today. Y'all are so sweet and and
I appreciate all the support y'all, Jojo and Terry and
ENGINEB as well, Thank you so much for that. And
I want to thank everybody just for being here today.

(01:52:36):
Thank you to all the moderators for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Come back and see me on Wednesday. We will have
a live show on Wednesday again. And and so everybody
have a wonderful, safe new year. If I don't see
you again, if you don't make it back on Wednesday,
and for our Thursday show as well, have a wonderful
new year y'all. Happy twenty twenty six coming up yea,
and please stay safe, okay, and if you have any

(01:53:00):
kind of dragon faces that show up, y'all holler at me. Okay.
Let me know, I keep my ear to the street.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
Wasn't it exactly a year ago that the mall at
Miami Mall happened, wasn't at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
That was twenty twenty four. I think two years ago.
It'd be two years on January first.

Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
It was January first, Okay, all right, Well, let's see
what happens in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
I think it was twenty twenty four. I don't know,
maybe it was twenty twenty five. I don't remember. Time
is but an illusion so fast. Yeah, yes, yes, but
happy New Year to everybody, okay, and I'll see you're
back here. We'll see y'all back here on Wednesday, y'all.
Stay safe and oh my god, look at it that

(01:53:53):
every New Year, y'all days, Carol and Jane.

Speaker 7 (01:53:55):
We'll see y'all, laters.

Speaker 8 (01:54:33):
It's it's, it's, it's

Speaker 7 (01:54:48):
It's yeah.

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