Mysterious Deaths at State and National Parks: Cryptids & Backwoods Cults with Mark Machek

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Speaker 1 (00:59):
Well, good in everybody, It's the Cryptied Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
Welcome into On the Hunt tonight. Gosh, do we have
an interesting show for y'all tonight. We are going to
be diving into strange and mysterious deaths at state and
national parks, particularly the Land between the Lakes tonight. And

(01:20):
these are documented deaths. And I do have our good
friend Mark Maychek aka Cryptidville here in the studio with
us once again. Y'all. Remember last time we came on,
we talked about mysterious hunters deaths and disappearances in national parks,
and tonight we're getting into everyday citizens, particularly teenagers and girls, children,

(01:44):
and maybe even more hunters too, okay, people in the military.
Lots of mysterious deaths have gone on at the Land
between the Lakes, and Mark has some really interesting information
for us tonight, and he's been really diving in to
some of these cases, at least one of them pretty well. Okay,
So we're gonna get into that and other stuff tonight.

(02:06):
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because we have much to discuss. And yes, someone I

(03:53):
saw somebody lift a comment. They're like, please don't scare
us too much tonight. Okay, I'm gonna try not to.
I do like to keep it spicy for y'all on
Saturday night, so okay, I do. We can get a
little spooky over here. And when we're talking about mysterious
deaths that occur in places like the LBL, I can't
guarantee it's not gonna be scary tonight. Okay, Okay, here

(04:14):
we go. So we are going on the hunt tonight
in our state national parks across America, particularly the LBL,
to explore cases of people who are found dead under
mysterious circumstances, some with military involvement, local government cover ups,
and the potential Dogman, Bigfoot, and backwoods cult connections. We're

(04:39):
making these connections. We're going to be connecting the dots
again like we always do with long time Kentucky resident
Mark maychek akad Cryptoville. He is a hunter, he is
a filled investigator, a field researcher when it comes to
all things cryptis. He's had plenty of experiences with Bigfoot
and Dogman. I'll know Mark, He's been here plenty of

(05:01):
times and I'm super super blessed and happy to have
him here again with us tonight. Please help me. Welcome
to the show Cryptonville aka Mark Maychak.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Good evening, Jessica. Thank you for having having me back on.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well, of course you are one of my favorite. All
my co hosts are my favorite. Okay, So you're I
love having you here, especially on a Saturday night. Boy,
we get into some deep conversations, don't.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
We Oh yeah, yeah, And I just want to I
just want to thank everybody in the chat for greeting
us at the beginning of the show. Yeah, it shows
that I'm there. I'm only in there for the purpose
of making sure that we are going live. So but yeah,

(05:45):
I just want to shout out to everybody in the
chat and thank you all for being here. And hopefully
we can give you some good information tonight that will
uh shed some light on some truths and maybe exposed
in falsehoods. Yes it's not necessarily true.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Oh man, that I think that's what we do best. Actually,
that's why you know, I've really embraced the controversy of
our conversations honestly, and uh, and I really appreciate it.
And uh, and that's basically that's that's why I do
this to get to the bottom of things, to get
to the truth behind the mysteries of the world. And
of course my angle are is crypted, okay, and uh,

(06:33):
in the field research, you and I have both been
out there. You've been doing this longer than I have,
really going out and field and uh, you know, having
connections with Beef that I've been doing it since twenty eleven.
And and I've been all over the place. I've seen
all sorts of weird stuff. Okay, but I have not
yet been to the LBL. And that's a hot spot
for activity. And and some of the more famous, the

(06:56):
more well known cases of cryptid related deaths or alleged
crypton related deaths have occurred at the LBL.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Mark so well alleged. That's a that's a big word.
And it is so because of the simple fact that,
for some reason, it appears that there are podcasters or
storytellers who choose to put information out there that may

(07:29):
or may not be accurate. And you know, they tell
these grandiose stories, and that's that's fine, but they have
little substance to back those stories up. So everything that
you hear from me tonight will be as as it

(07:51):
was reported. There's not going to be any adding or
taking away or fabrication involved in it. Uh. But even
without doing that, the cases are still interesting, even though
we can't say for a fact that, hey, this is

(08:12):
one related to a cryptid or something else that's not normal.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, well, you know, I have been contacted plenty of
times by people who have suggested or asked that I
look into cases of alleged or suspected cryptied attacks through
remote viewing. Okay, and and I have been tasked. You know,
I have a full team of remote viewers. I got
some guys and probably some ladies on my teams that

(08:42):
are watching the show tonight. Shout out to know. I
know Keith watching. I got to kind of give a
shout out to Keith tonight. But you know, we are
all trained in remote viewing, and we oftentimes have gotten targets,
blind targets where we're just giving coordinates, and a lot
of times they have involved cases of alleged attacks on
people by dog men and bigfoot and and I've got

(09:06):
to tell you sometimes they are I do believe they
were if from this is from just remote viewing data. Okay,
you can take it or leave it. It's remote viewing data.
Sometimes I do believe that people were attacked by something
like a werewolf or dog men. Other times I think
they were attacked by big cats. Okay, when it comes
down to stuff like alleged cryptid attacks, So I don't

(09:28):
think it's always cryptids.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, I would have to agree with that. And and
and you know, I don't want to disillusion anyone by
saying that, well, you know, Bigfoot or dog man will
not or won't harm you, or that they don't harm people.
To to go into that vein of thought would be

(09:52):
irresponsible because you know, it is a it is a
wild creature, whatever it is that's living on the land
and has animalistic traits, and it would be foolish to
think that it wouldn't respond like any wild animal. I mean,

(10:14):
you take a raccoon a raccoon. If you corner a
raccoon and you piss it off, it's gonna tear you up.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, squirrels too, Okay, squirrels could do that. Any any
kind of little listen to, Chihuahua is way more fierce
than a lot of big dogs. Okay, little animals can
tear you up if they want, at least they think
they can. Oh yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
So with that, you know, I'm not going to say
that it's not possible that some of these events did
not happen. But you know, and I see this every day.
You know, I need to just go ahead, and I
hate to I hate to unsubscribe people, but when I

(11:03):
look at this one particular channel every day, it's like
person mauled, person, person alived, person attacked.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know, that's a lot, isn't it. It is three
sixty five, that's a lot. I mean, if you add
up the numbers on that, that's a lot of people.
I mean, could, but but could it? Could it be
possible that our government, our military, our secret agency is
out there super soldier programs are going out there and
covering all this up on a daily basis. I mean,
what do you think that's possible?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
But you know, you have to you have to look
at the the the frequency of those types of events.
I don't think that those types of events of events
are happening as frequent as uh they're being portrayed. You know.

(11:57):
To me, it just doesn't it doesn't add up, you know,
because if you if you look at the the number
of videos or reports where people come out and say, oh, well,
so and so was harmed by this cryptidu, you know,
there wouldn't there wouldn't be anybody alive here. Would everybody

(12:21):
be laid up in the hospital, you know, licking their
wounds for being attacked by cryptis?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I mean, and especially if they're all being said to
happen in like national parks and state parks and stuff.
I mean, yeah, I mean I think we would hear more.
I personally think we'd hear more about it from the
I'm not saying the news would cover it, but you know,
people's families would be coming out and stuff and you know,
making a stink about it. I know, if something were
to happen to my family, let's just say, like my

(12:49):
my immediate family, I would I'd be going all over
the place, you know, talking to news. I'd be calling
up the news channels myself and being like, hey, y'all
need to cover this. Oh yeah, you know, help me
find my child, help me find my sibling or whatever. Yeah,
but I don't know it. It is excessive. I think.
I agree with you. I agree with you. It makes

(13:11):
you wonder, wait, where are these stories coming from? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
But but along with that, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna say that. You know, there have not been events
that have happened that are that are like that. And
as you know, I see Don's comment here. You know,
I've lived in this area for twenty five years. I've
spent a lot of time in the LBL by myself,

(13:35):
with people. I have never heard that story that that
Don's referencing. I'm not saying it's not real. I'm not
saying it's not true. Just I've never heard that, and
it's kind of interesting, I will say that. But you know,

(13:59):
I'm more of a of a of a when it
comes to this research. You know, I'm more of a
you know, show me some show me some documentation, or
show me the receipts, you know. I mean, and I understand,
you know, because I've dealt with this so long in
this area. I understand how things are, how things go,

(14:23):
things get buried, things get hidden, and and it does happen,
but I don't think it's as as frequent as as
some would have you believe. And then there's the factor
of and and you don't hear people talk about this

(14:43):
very much. You know, you have to you have to
look at the you have to weigh the credibility of
the source. You know, I I I never will understand this.
And I remember back in my early days of research,
when I first started, there was a there was a
gentleman from New York who ingrained in me something that

(15:07):
that that is very important. And that's the concept of credibility.
If you do or say anything to destroy your credibility.
It's gone, you can't get it back.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's very true.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
That's why I why I am so adamant about, you know,
being as truthful as I can be. Now, granted, there
may be things that I might not talk about, but
if I talk about it, I'm gonna tell you the
truth on it. So having said that, you know, I

(15:47):
like to look at at people or let me rephrase that,
I'm not I'm not so much involved with a lot
of people here lately in the in the last five
to ten years, but in the past I have, let's
just say, I look into the people that I deal

(16:07):
with because I've just ran into some really suspect individuals
and you know, there's a lot of things that just
don't add up. And that's not me, that's not my doing,
that's the individual that I'm you know, looking into is doing.

(16:30):
So those are those are things that I take into
consideration when when considering a source of information.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
So yeah, well, well, like Don says too, some channels
are total fictional stories, which is not in the comments,
well in the video and yes, there are no channels too.
There's also something that claim to be true stories. There
and there's a lot. Okay, but I don't know. I
don't I don't subscribe listen. I I don't have time

(17:04):
to watch all the channels and stuff. So I don't know. Uh,
but I do. I do have people that send me
links to show sometimes and stuff. And uh and so yes,
when I was when I was doing some research, when
my buddy Nick Sylvester had me watching some channels and
stuff because of the dog man breeding programs and stuff
like that, and so I was doing some research and
I did, I did see some excessive stuff kind of
a little bit, and I thought, man, this is wild,

(17:27):
you know. And then of course I have the opposite.
So like Vic kind Off came on my show and
vixed like, this stuff's not all real and people are
making stories, you know, that kind of stuff. I'm not saying.
He's not saying that dog man stories not real, but
uh but some things are embellished, right, embellished, I guess,
is what he was saying. Oh yeah, a lot of embellishments.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, And and I take it a little bit. I
take it a little bit further with you know, the
information that people release to others. You know, I look
at that as a as a as a way of character,
because if if somebody's gonna tell somebody else about something
and they're not gonna be truthful about it, it kind

(18:10):
of makes you wonder why they're doing that.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, yeah, it does, it does, it does well. And
that's where that's where with me being a field researcher.
You know, like I'm real, I can't. I don't lie
about stuff. And if I don't know the truth about something,
I don't know something, I be honest. I'm like, I
don't know, I don't know nothing about nothing, okay. And uh,
and I've my my what I've experienced and things that

(18:35):
I share with the public. This is what I shared
with the public is so wild it sounds like it's
not real, probably to some people. I remember when I
first went public, and uh, and I was talking about
some things on some that was being interviewed, and there
were people in the comments like, there's no way she's
telling the truth. There's not nothing. This doesn't happen to people,
And I was like, well it is, you know, and uh,

(18:56):
I don't you know when you when you have things
that happened to you, you know, I've never my stories
have never changed okay, because I remember them like it
was yesterday, everything that's ever happened to me, right, and
and you can go back for years. I challenge anyone
to go watch interviews with me. I've I've never changed
a story because I just tell the truth, okay, and

(19:16):
it's what I experienced. And but but nonetheless, there's there's
you know, you just got to go with your gut too,
when you're listening to people stories and stuff like that
as well and being an investigator and taking reports from
people too. You know, Mark, when I took that report
with that state park ranger, and you know state park rangers,
you should you know, of course, Like I'm not saying

(19:37):
that I didn't feel like I could trust a state
park ranger, right, But when it comes down to some
of the reports that I was given by a state
park ranger, it was so wild that I had to
do a FaceTime with him to make sure he I
feel like, so I could see if he was telling
me the truth. You know, I'm even suspicious of park rangers, well,

(19:58):
or I was at the time.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, have to be, because you know, you don't know
if at some point they're being instructed to give you
not valid information, and I'm sure that that does happen,
you know, because you know, I mean, if you've if
you've got a rogue encryptid whatever it may be, running

(20:23):
around a national park or park area, you know, it
may may be acceptable for a lower level employee to
talk about that, but somebody that's up in the management
level might look at that as a as a negative
aspect that could affect a lot of things. So it
made sense that they may they may get the boot on,

(20:47):
you know, the information that they're told they could talk
about and release. And yeah, yes, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well we all know that story. We've talked about that before,
where you know, I got called in on a Bigfoot
related death and then what I was told, what we
were told by the ranger and shout out to him.
He had very nice cafella. I believe he was telling
us the truth. Okay, but somewhere down the line when
we talked with the coroner, the story had changed, Okay,

(21:17):
completely different story with the coroner. And so there's something
funny going on there, and I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna put it that way, and uh, and I've talked
to other investigators and I had a really great conversation
with Mark Green who came on the show. Shout out
to Mark Green, by the way, and he said that,
you know, there were there are some discrepancies and some
of the stories as well that happened, or some of

(21:39):
the encounters and some of some deaths that happened around
the Talladega National Forest area as well, where people believe
that people some of these people had died by cryptid
related deaths, but they were all ruled as drug overdoses,
just like the one in my state park.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, that seems to be a commonality actually, Yeah. You know,
if it's something that they're trying to bury, it seems
like the quickest go to they'll say, oh, well, it
was just a drug overdose. You know. Actually, when I
was investigating the incident with the bow hunter back in
two thousand and seven, you know, my interactions with some

(22:24):
people that were involved in the in the later investigation,
they actually told me that that the gentleman had died
from a drug overdose. And it just does not to me.
It doesn't. It never it never lined up. It never
lined up with what he did or the location that

(22:46):
he was found in. So it just didn't to me.
It just didn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah. Yes, well we're conecting the dots for sure. And
a camp backster. Thank you so much for that super sticker.
I love Saturday Night, my favorite show. Thank you so much, Ken,
I associate of you. I appreciate your support so much.
Thank you for being here tonight. Yeah. Well, okay, well
let's let's get back to the LBL. Okay, let's go

(23:17):
back to the LBL. I've done a little bit of
research myself since I I've talked to you about some
of the mysterious deaths that have happened there. And it's
not just deaths that people think that might have been
related to a cryptid attack, but there's also been some
weird some some mysterious circumstances under like even some teenage

(23:40):
girls that died out there a while back. I mean,
how many, And I know, since you live out there,
you would know, like how many deaths have been recorded
out there? Do you have any like a ballpark number?

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I actually don't, And the reason why is because you know,
I was here. I moved here in ninety nine, and
you know, at that time, yeah, I was doing some
investigating and and started looking at you know, different things

(24:13):
going on over there. But I never thought to you know,
start per se recording you know, deaths and you know,
keeping a log of them or whatever. So it would
be it would be not accurate of me to give

(24:35):
out a number. But I can assure you that it's
not anywhere near what the podcast world is saying that
it is. You know, it's like to them, it appears
that somebody, somebody, somebody is taking out every day. This

(25:02):
is not the case. It's not it's not real.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well I hope not. I hope not for humanity's sake
for sure. Well, okay, well let's let's let's talk about
the Beast of LBL is the most famous story from
out there. It seems to me there's been there's potentially
if that really happened, which I believe it did. I mean,
we've talked about that before. It seems as though there's

(25:28):
local government cover ups going on out there, And I
hate to say that about I don't I don't know
if there's a cover up when it pertains to some
of these other cases where it was clearly not cryptid related,
like those two teenage girls. Would you like to talk
about that tonight? A little bit with with the teenage
girls that were found unalive there. I guess we would

(25:52):
say back in the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Sure, I mean really and truly, I don't know a
whole lot about the case, but I do know that
the general background of it, and I did I did
do some digging on it, like we were talking about
before the show, and there's some some interesting things that
I came across that I don't think a lot of

(26:15):
people really paid attention to.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Okay, well, let's let's talk about it a little bit.
I'm actually I'm gonna pull it up on the screen.
I'm gonna share my screen right quick. And so if
anyone's not familiar with this case, these are two teenage
girls that were found with shotgun wounds to their head.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Correct, that is correct.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Okay, let's see, Okay, let's see. They just came out
with a sketch. I don't know how long ago this was.
This might have been a while I was in fifteen.
This was ten years ago. The Tennessee Bureau of As
released a sketch. Finally, in the case of these two

(27:03):
girls that were slayed in the lb yel It says
that in September seventeenth of nineteen eighty, Carla Atkins and
Vicki Stout left their home in Dover Stuart County to
walk one mile to the store they were last seeing
around three thirty in the afternoon, and they were walking
back home on State Route seventy nine. Witness reported seeing
a blue truck in the area and reported seeing Carla

(27:24):
and Vickie approaching the truck and its drivers and its driver.
Authorities found their body three weeks later by hikers and
what is now known as the Land between the Lakes
Recreation There. They weren't even in the LBL when they
were last seeing Mark. I mean, I don't know that area. Well,
but is that right? They were down the road from
the LBO. Okay, well, this is the sketch, the artist

(27:47):
sketch of the person. Okay, all right, well this they've
got the artist's sketch right here. And they never have
solved this case ever. Okay uh. And they're still they're
still looking for the culprit there. But there's something, there's
something interesting, something else that you have discovered that it

(28:10):
was a little fishy, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's I wouldn't say fishy, but it's it's interesting So
that same week that they disappeared, there was a gentleman
found unlived uh self deleted, was the official story, in
a campground near a campground, and it was it was

(28:37):
very very similar to what happened with the two young
girls head wound from a small caliber rifle. So, and

(28:57):
what was interesting about it was in that particular newspaper
that I was looking through, there was no mention of
the dover case, but there was mention of this gentleman
being found, uh that same week, and that that particular

(29:18):
gentleman was was a they'd really say, uh and I'm
trying to remember. Let me let me pull it up
here real quick.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Okay, So he was found after the after the girls
were found after it correct around the same time. Hmmm. Interesting,
So which which could and that didn't get as much
press as these two teenagers that were found out there
and so could be a connection. Maybe maybe he was

(30:05):
the person responsible.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I mean, we're not saying that this is I hate
to say this, but this is for entertainment purposes only, y'all. Okay,
we're not stating this as fact. It's just interesting to
look into, Okay, And it's information that people haven't really
probably put together.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
So this this article that I have clipped. Basically, he
was a he was on he was a military service
member on leave from the Memphis Naval Air Station and

(30:51):
he was originally they said, from Louisville, Texas. And so
when they located him, they determined that his cause of
death was self deletion. So I just think it's kind
of interesting that that it was a very similar in

(31:18):
in the way that the the two young girls AH
had had been deleted or unlived. Not saying that it's connected,
but it is noteworthy because I mean, what are the

(31:45):
odds that you would have two very similar deaths?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Three actually, right?

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Three actually? And I was saying too because it's you know,
I was looking from the from the case level. I
don't think it's it's normal that that you would have
two very similar situations like that within the same week
or close close proximity and time frame.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, it's very very tragic, very sad.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I was just gonna say, and that, and that brings
me to one of the points that I wanted to
discuss this this evening. You know, when you when you
look at this, you know, as we as we know,
cryptids aren't the only thing you have to worry about
in national parks and and and state lands. You know,

(32:42):
there's the human element, and you know there's there's a
lot of factors that come into play when you start
looking at people's degree of mental health. Uh, you know
what there will level of mental health they have and uh,

(33:05):
one of those interesting perplexing events that I wanted to
talk about this evening falls into that range where it
could have could have been some sort of uh a

(33:27):
mental health crisis that that played into it. But we
have to we have to keep in mind that when
when we look at these things at what level? At
what level does it become a scenario where a person

(33:49):
is affected by the environment or what's in the environment,
meaning that you know, there there may be influences in
an area, whether that be dark spiritual entities or what
have you. Because I mean, the reality is this, and

(34:10):
a lot of people won't acknowledge this, but a lot
of mental health issues fall on into the category of
being the result of some sort of oppression or influenced
by dark entities or things of that nature. Because I mean,

(34:36):
the reality is, you know, we perceive what we perceive,
maybe what five percent I think is what they say
of what's actually around us. We can only perceive that much.
What about the other ninety five percent that we can't

(34:58):
see exactly?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Actually and knowing the LBL, you know, I've talked about
this for about the occult practices that go on the LBL. Okay,
let's talk about like Satanic rituals and things like that.
I mean, it happens at all of our national parks.
As a matter of fact, one of my teammates did
at Floyder Request over in Alabama. Okay, there was a uh,

(35:24):
there was a a homicide, let's say, a homicide I
gues of a young man his you know, his he
and his fiancee had pulled up on two women whose
car was broken down. Uh, they ended up it ended
up being an ambush and h and the lady ended
up shooting him. He shot her back, and he ended

(35:46):
up dying. She lived. They ended up finding encampments, off
grade encampments out in that forest in Alabama and in
the FOIDA Requests, you know, because we're we're in the
you know, trying to figureut what's going on all these
national parks and stuff. But the included a cult there
were cults. They called them religious cults, and they were

(36:08):
like five to ten encampments out there. It was a bunch.
It was not just one of people who and they
they said that they had statues out there they said
that involved witchcraft. They literally it literally says in the
foyer requests witchcraft. Okay, witchcraft tools or something like that.
So you know, this was actually in the news. I mean,

(36:31):
they covered this cult religious cult on I think Vice
had done a expose on them at some point before
all this happened. But they were linked to I don't
know if it's gang activity, kidnappings, homicides, all that. They
had been linked The leader of these groups had been
linked to all that, okay. And these are in the

(36:52):
deep woods in the deep South at our national parks, Okay,
very dangerous. So I'm not saying they were groups, okay,
but they were doing rituals and they had witchcraft tools
is what it said. Okay. So who knows what's going
on out there? And I would assume that the land

(37:13):
between the lakes is such a big place there could
be groups like that out there.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
There could be I've heard many instances where people have
encountered groups of that nature. You know, the validity of
it is is hard to ascertain, but you know, it's

(37:42):
it just it makes sense that there would be at
least at least one group like that operating in in
that area, you know, but to what degree that influences

(38:03):
the area? You know, I mean if you look at
it from from a from a ceremonial magic aspect, it
makes sense that you know, if you have even just
one person in there doing that, there's the positive possible

(38:27):
influence of dark energy on that area. And you know,
one of the interesting things that that that I like
to keep in the back of my mind is you
have individuals. You know, we've heard about this like from

(38:47):
you know, even television shows reality TV. You know, they
talk about, uh, they're on site, they're shooting in the
in the wooded area, and of their members of their
caste just says that he's gonna go utilize the tree

(39:08):
line and then next thing they know, he's taken off
into the woods and they never see him again. And
you know, I don't know how many times I've heard
where individuals that are with other people go into an
area and you have one individual out of the group

(39:32):
that it becomes entranced under some sort of influence energetically
that they feel like they are drawn into an area
and that they can't control themselves or stop themselves from
attempting to go to that area. And it's interesting that

(39:55):
you have people that experience that because of the simple
fact that that you know, I mean, what is that.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
I mean, yeah, we've had some weird stuff that's happened
out of the meadow. I'm not going to say it
was that, okay, uh, what you're describing, but it was
similar like where uh, I don't know, I can't I
don't know if I can. I'm not gonna get into it, okay,

(40:24):
on air because it was weird, okay, but almost like
where people that weren't part of our team were there
and uh and kind of like got overtaken by something,
let's just say, and they never wanted to come back. Okay,
it wasn't it wasn't my team, okay, but it was
people who had been invited there for something and uh

(40:45):
and they had an unpleasant experience let's just say. Okay,
and uh, and it was it was similar to what
you're describing right now.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah. And it's interesting because you know, and even though
that does and quote unquote fall into the whole cryptied thing.
We don't know what the connection is to the whole
crypti phenomenon with that because of the simple fact that
you know, you have orbs that are flying around and

(41:16):
they turn into Bigfoot or they turn into animals or whatever,
and you know, that's a that's what I describe as
as an energetic form that is assuming the form of
an ORB as it's traveling, but when it gets to
its destination, it materializes into whatever it wants to or

(41:39):
whatever it feels. And I think it's it's it's based
off of the factor of what a person can accept
in in its in their reality. For example, let's say
let's say you're walking through the woods and you see
an ORB and the the energy of that orb or

(42:05):
the I'm not trying to say it's it's like the
the basically as it materializes to present itself after it
utilizes that ORB form, it's going to transform into something
that it feels that you could accept in your reality.

(42:29):
So it makes sense to me that, I mean, it's
just it's just really weird how that that stuff happens,
because you know, and you don't know at what level
it influences you when it does that prime example, this

(42:55):
is one case that I did want to discuss this
evening this last year. There was a there was a
gentleman that had been dropped off at a boat ramp.
This was actually on the far side of Kentucky Lake,
not actually inside the l B L. But he was

(43:21):
fine when he was dropped off. People that had encountered
him at that boat ramp had interacted with him and
they related that he was talking about seeing faces in

(43:41):
the rocks and just sounded like he was either psychologically
unstable or unstable unstable was probably the better word, or
that he was under the influence of something. So strangely enough,

(44:05):
an hour later he was found floating in the water.
Oh no, deceased. And it's just it's just weird that
you have somebody that's dropped off like that and then

(44:27):
they're you know, seeing things that are maybe or maybe
not there, and then the next thing they're in the
water and they're deceased. Now, I'm not going to say
that that case is is this or is that? But
all I'm saying is that it is definitely interesting because

(44:50):
of you know, this whole thing that we're discussing here
with the influence that an area can have on a person,
it just it makes it that much more complicated and
hard to determine what's actually going on because it's an unseen, intangible,

(45:13):
unmeasurable factor that comes into play.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
It's very tragic. And we have Margaret in the chat.
She said that sounds exactly like what happened to her
nephew who died in a lake in Kentucky. She says,
and Margaret, I am so sorry to hear that that
that happened to your nephew. I think I remember you
telling me about that. Actually when we met at that
UFO conference in Myrtle Beach, she was there and very

(45:40):
very tragic. But yeah, that this is all a really
good point though that you're making here, and it's you know,
can the land, can the energetics of someplace like the
LBL take over people? Okay, we talk about curse land, right,
the places where curse have been put on and uh,

(46:03):
and there's a lot of really dark activity and including
ritualistic stuff going on there as well. If there are
you know, Satanic cults out there and any kind of
backwoods cults or any kind of I guess you say
they called them a religious cults, you know, like out
in Alabama according to the four yer requests. Okay, that

(46:24):
is on a four four yer request. But uh that
uh it could definitely and and and seeing it with
my own team, having people out there who uh something
something was not so so pretty that happened to them
out there while they were there, just a few of them,

(46:45):
a couple of them, and it affected it affected them psychologically. Okay, Uh,
there is something psychological you know that's that's really wild
that things just make more and more sense every day,
every show I do, every conversation I have, it makes
more sense. Of the head of one of my first
Bigfoot research team, he wanted to make sure that we

(47:06):
were trained in remote viewing to get our psychic skills developed,
to make sure that we can control our minds. Okay,
And that is a huge factor. People underestimate the importance
of having a good sound mental state when you are
doing cryptid field research because there's so much energetically out

(47:28):
there that can mess with your mind, and if you
don't have a clear mental state, things are way more
likely to affect you.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Oh yeah, And another factor that a lot of people
don't consider is the pre mental state, is what I
like to call it. So I've been doing this for
a long time, researching, interacting with different people. I've met

(47:56):
some of the best, I've met some of the worst.
The reality of the scenario is, you know, you have
to look at a person's mental state before you you
involve yourself too much with them, because you know, if
they're they're already mentally unstable before you get into any

(48:24):
kind of research. Encountering some of the things that you
encounter is not going to do anything to help. It's
just gonna make their mental state worse. Prime example, you know,
and I talked about I've talked about this before. You know,
you had the I think it was the man and
the woman. I think it was Alabama. They were researchers.

(48:48):
The female shot the male for the handgun. You know what.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I gotta tell you. When I first went public as
a researcher and I was put on the flyer to
speak at a big Foot conference for the first time,
I had a whole Facebook group accuse me of being
that woman. I think, if that's the same person you're
talking about, it's like a Bigfoot researcher had shot her boyfriend. Yeah,

(49:19):
they were claiming that that was me. It was one
of those bigfoot hoaxerre groups, and uh well it it
was actually kind of funny that people thought that was
me because I don't look anything like that woman. Okay. Uh,
but I know what you're talking about, just because I
got accused of being her, Okay, So I'm not like
it was a horrible face to be y'allah for that
to happen, but I got accused. It was like, is

(49:39):
that the best y'all got Okay, just accused me of
being some woman that I'm not Okay, and no I was.
I had to go around telling people I did not
shoot my boyfriend. I don't even have a boyfriend. Okay.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Well the whole reason why I brought it up is because,
you know, one of one of them believed that the
other was going to sick or uh turn a big
foot on a loose on them. I like to use
that I'm from I'm from the South, so I like
to use you know, the sick sick a big foot

(50:12):
on them.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Well, Hey, I'm from Georgia, and I say sick of
dogs right with the U g A. So I know
what you mean.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
And they felt like they needed to quote unquote defend
themselves against that person because of what they were doing.
And you know, I mean, I'll just be uh. I
the honest evaluation of the scenario is this, there are
some very disturbed people in the whole cryptid field.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I think it's every field, but I I won't keep
my mouth shut. Okay, it's everywhere, it's in real life.
And that's why I'm saying it's important for everyone that
that's why they head. It makes more sense to me
every day know as to why the head of my
team made sure we were highly trained in mind control,
controlling our own minds, okay, because because of the I

(51:09):
mean the delicate nature of our subconscious and our consciousness okay,
and and letting it run wild when you're out in
the dark woods getting chased by bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And I'll be the first to invent that or to
say that, you know, me making that statement is not
a dig on anybody. It's a it's a it's I
make it in an effort to get others to reflect
and do some self evaluation and maybe do what they

(51:43):
need to do to get themselves in the in the
in a better psychological state before they undertake something like
like this, because the reality of it is this, whether
you want, you know, you talk, you talked about them
and these religious groups being referred to as such, you know,

(52:05):
the reality, the reality of it is, whether they're in
the witchcraft, Satanism, worshiping lower demons, what have you, to them,
that is a religion. To them, that is normal, just
like the concept of Christianity or Buddhism or whatever your

(52:28):
particular flavor of religion is is normal to us. To them,
that's normal. And they believe their beliefs just as much
as we believe ours, if not more. So, it's important

(52:48):
for us to recognize that, you know, even though we
may not hold those beliefs, those beliefs are just as
real as ours, and they have the potential to influence
us if we let them, or if we're in a

(53:13):
vulnerable position psychologically, those things can affect us, and they
can cause us to maybe do things that we wouldn't
normally do, or put ourselves into positions that we would
normally wouldn't so, and I want to segue into that

(53:35):
because there was a there was an incident that took
place a couple of years ago in the land between
the lakes. So there was a young man, I don't
he was in his you know, mid twenties. He was

(53:57):
traveling a stretch of road very lated. And this particular
stretch of road is you know, from the time you
get on that stretch of road to the time you
get off of it, the speed limit is twenty five
miles an hour, and as you drive it, you become

(54:19):
very aware of why it's twenty five miles an hour
because it is twisty, windy, and a lot of curves,
a lot of dangerous curves that you could potentially leave
the roadway even if you're doing say thirty five. So

(54:42):
he was traveling that road late at night, and the
official story is that he was traveling that road at
a high rate of speed and ran off the road
and collided with a tree and was deceased as a

(55:06):
result of that.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
So and it could have been just a case of,
you know, the person not being familiar with the road.
But I think that there possibly could be more to

(55:30):
that story. And the reason why I say that is,
first off, I want to state that it's pure speculation
on my part, but that road is actually very close
to the location where there have been multiple multiple sightings

(55:56):
of dog man there. The two two thousand and seven
bow hunter incident happened very close to that road, and
I can't I can't help but wonder if the guy
didn't get on that road that late at night and

(56:18):
see something or get chased by something that caused him
to be driving outside of the speed limit.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Man. That's a good point. I mean, there's a well
known crypti cryptied Old Green Eyes up in Chickamauga, Georgia,
where people see it on the They see it to
this day. They say that green Glow and isdel side
of the road. People wreck in the same spot all
the time up there, or they have for decades because

(56:46):
whatever they're seeing is scaring them and they're wrecking. That's
a great point, though there's no telling how many people
have seen dog men or been chased by dog men. Gosh,
I think the majority of reports we get are dog
men on the side of the road, right, A lot
of them are.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah, there are you know. I think that the majority
of whether it's dog man or bigfoot, a lot of
the sightings happen on the side of roadways, so it's
very common and it would be very common for a
person encountering such to be a little bit stressed out

(57:29):
from that, to say.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
The least, a little panicked, a little panic. I want
to thank Dannette Bailey for that supersticker. Thank you so much, Tonan.
I appreciate your support so much, and real quick. I
also wanted to thank Walter as well. Thank you Walter
for your supersticker as well. That is very sweet. I
appreciate you all support so much. But but that that
is considering the concentration of the dog men, the bigfoot sightings,

(57:57):
everything that's going on there. You know it could, I mean,
but also there could also be deer out there and
all sorts of other stuff. Yeah, as well, and people listen,
I have watched when I was fifteen years old. I
was fifteen. I was not that I was just learning
how to drive, because I've been driving race cars for
years okay before i turned fifteen. But I was driving

(58:18):
down the road and my dad's think we had might
have been driving to explore or something with my dad
and my two siblings, and we watched as a deer
hopped over the road in front of it hit the
car in front of us. It's slammed into the deer,
and uh there was nothing to nobody. If that had
been me, I would have hit it too. You know.
There's nothing we could do about it. And I'll never

(58:38):
forget that it came out of nowhere. Okay, just came
out of nowhere and the car ran off throw hit
it and all that stuff. So I know, I know
deers are an issue in places like that too, you know, yeah,
miss them.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Well real quick. One thing I want to make I
want to bring to bring to everyone's attention, you know.
H So you know, I don't normally like talking about
those who have have have gone on, and when I do,

(59:18):
I hope that I'm not doing it in any way
that's disrespectful to them or their families. And and you know,
because I always try to put myself in in the
position of someone that might hear the information that we're sharing,
because you know, the reality of it is, you know,

(59:40):
one thing, that one thing that I see a lot of.
You know, if you're if you're reporting on someone's death
or what have you, you know, as it might relate
to a cryptid or even just their death in general.
You know, if someone was talking about one of one
of my relatives and and they went in about it

(01:00:04):
in a way that was disrespectful. I would definitely have
issue with it. And that's one of the things that
that I hope that I'm not doing. And and I
want to let everybody know that the reason why I
even bring these these incidents up is not to not

(01:00:28):
to aggrandize someone else's demise, but to educate people on
the possible risks that that exist when you're out there,
because they're out there, and you know, I don't know,

(01:00:51):
it's just it's it's a it's to me, it's a
tough topic, but it's still something that needs to be discussed,
whether it's cryptive related or not. You know. And I'm
very very aware of the the the information that's come

(01:01:18):
out about the two thousand and seven bow Hunter incident,
and I'm also aware of some things that haven't come out.
But you know, it's it's just, you know, at the
end of the day, these people that have passed on,
they were people. They were somebody's loved one, someone's child,

(01:01:41):
someone's brother, sister, father, And you know, I in my
talking about their situation, you know, I don't mean to
be disrespectful in any way. And I just wanted to
touch on that because you don't, you don't have a
lot of people that are reporting on these types of

(01:02:04):
things that actually do that. They don't. It's it's like, oh, well,
we had five people get killed by a dog man,
and let's you know, that's not my that's not my intent.
I'm not I'm not trying to aggrandize anyone's devise.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Like I said, No, that's that's good that you bring
that up. It's very good. And uh and and so
I always try to be really trying to be delicate
about uh, you know, even something that I never thought
in a millionaires I would ever do would be to
talk publicly about some of those remote viewing targets I
had been given where people had died and they were

(01:02:43):
suspected of being attacked by cryptis like dog men and bigfoot.
But uh, but I was. I was encouraged to do
it because it's like, well, let's you know, the and
and I thought, well, you know, it's probably a good
thing to kind of look at things, and it show
the public that other ways, you know, to look into
these things. We're never going to get answers from the sources,

(01:03:05):
you know, cops, local governments, things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
So let's just let's just get some data out of it,
you know. And so Uh, but I always try to
be very respectful out of it because I know there
are families and I do not cover cases with children.
I mean, I've I've talked about them before, but there
are certain cases I will not cover. Okay, Uh, You've
got to draw the line somewhere personally, I think, and uh,

(01:03:30):
and I I have I have a young child myself,
and uh, and to see cases like that where people
are claiming that they you know, definitely got you know,
mauled by a dog man and things like that. Uh,
it's can be upsetting to a lot of people, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Can and if you don't have, if you don't have,
if you can't produce a receipt, or you don't you've
worked there and you didn't film it. First off, why
are you just sitting by and letting somebody get attacked
by cryptid and filming it. The second thing would be,
you know, if you if you can't prove that that happened,

(01:04:12):
then why are you I'm just I'm blunt, I'm southern,
I'm honest. Just take it for what you will. But
but why are you even talking if you can't back
it up?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Man, you're throwing the Southern in there. That's an excuse
right there. I'm just kidding. I'm Southern, so yeah, I'm
Southern too, so I listen, I understand totally. Well, but
that's true. And speaking of which, Firewater says, don't mean
a thing without Miss Jessica's twaang, thank you, thank you
for your support, thank you for that superstick or Firewater.

(01:04:47):
I appreciate you so much, she says, hit hit smash
out late button. You know, please, thank you. But yeah,
you got it. You got a good point. You've got
a good point. But but ultimately, you know, we are
still It is like Vic, my friend Vic Condom says,
he says, everybody loves a train wreck, is that what

(01:05:07):
he says? Or a car everybody looks likes to look
at the car wreck. And uh, and that's our curiosity
and it's us, you know, trying to get to the
truth behind the cryptids. And and that's part of it.
Are the places where we get the most sightings are
these national parks, these state parks and uh. And when
people are dying mysteriously it gets our curiosity up, you know,

(01:05:32):
for all of us. And I'm guilty myself. I'm very guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
But then again, I spend a lot of time in
those parks and I take my kid to those parks sometimes,
so I need to know, you know what I mean?
And that's that's where it comes from, is that curiosity?

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Really Well, there's nothing wrong with being informed, but when
you when you are delusionally misinformed, that's a different thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah. Well, you know, I guess it would be be
great if things weren't if we had more how do
I want to put this being putting it nicely? If
we we could trust our local law enforcement and stuff,
do you know what I mean, like tell us the
truth about stuff and do not cover things up. Okay,

(01:06:21):
maybe maybe that's well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I think that I think we need to bring out
a broader brush and say that it's not just law enforcement,
it's if if people would have a little more integrity
in general, you know, we would we would have more
answers as far as you know, what's what's really going
on with this subject? Because you know, I mean, you know,

(01:06:48):
I pay a lot of attention to a lot of
things that people say that you know, you might not think,
but there there are things that I have noticed doing
this that it's kind of leaves me, you know, wondering,

(01:07:09):
you know, what's what's really going on in the background.
Prime example that would be, you know, and I'm not gonna,
I'm gonna briefly touch this because it leads into a
very deep, very dark hole, and I'm not trying to
go there, at least not tonight. But interestingly, I had

(01:07:38):
an interaction with a for Service ranger and in that
interaction it was mentioned to me that they were paying
attention to who was going where and what they were
doing in those particular areas, and there was mention of

(01:08:03):
you know, cult activity. So you know, in the in
the back of my mind, I'm I'm wondering, are they
not if they're not aware that there is a correlation,
an influence, you know, between the cryptids and the cults,
and and what the culture doing is influencing the frequency

(01:08:27):
of crypti cryptid activity, and are they trying to to
to avert that because the the truth is, you know,
the l BL, just from my perspective, it's a little
bit overdue. There hasn't been anything happening in a while

(01:08:49):
and it's it's not normal, and I'm wondering if it's
not the result of the policing that's going on to
to to possibly try to avert those those types of activities.
And it's just interesting not saying that that's one the case,

(01:09:13):
but based off of, you know, commentary, I kind of
wonder if that's not what they're what their realization was,
and what they're they're doing to try to rectify some
of the issue.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Mhm. Is there a new sheriff in town? Is that
what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, there's a new sheriff in town. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
I mean literally, I'm just wondering. I don't know anything
about the politics out there, y'all. Y'all know I worked
in politics my whole life, and uh, and I know
the good old boy networks and stuff too, so uh
that that is a factor when it comes to stuff
local politics and and uh, I mean we've even had Okay,
I'm not gonna get into specifics, but you know, I

(01:09:59):
have friends family who've worked with our local shriff's departments.
I'm not going to say exactly which one, okay, but uh,
but there were they just got a new sheriff recently. Okay,
let's just say there is a lot of weird stuff
going on, and uh, I'm not never mind, I shouldn't
get into this. Uh, but but let's just say stuff

(01:10:22):
that was not kosher. I guess you could say I
don't know things things that were It's like good old
Boy network stuf where things were being covered up and
I sawi alleged, okay, all alleged and stuff. Yeah, I'm
not gonna talk about it. I don't want get trouble here, okay,
because I have my opinions on things, and that's this

(01:10:43):
is not the place or time to talk about it. Okay.
But but I but I get what you're saying, is
all I'm saying. Yea, I know what you're talking about,
and you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Know, it's just it's just kind of interesting and what
the The reality at the end of the day is
people who may have a certain religious preference, whatever that
may be, they're going to do what they're going to
do in regardless of whether they do it in the
l b L or they do it in their basement,
they do it in their house, or they do it

(01:11:13):
at the neighbor's house or their friend's house. They're gonna
they're gonna do what they're gonna do. And that's one
of the things that I learned early, early on that
I'm so grateful for, is you know, when you have
when you have people of I'm gonna use the term

(01:11:35):
varying religious beliefs, that even if you don't believe the
way they do or what they believe, they.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Believe it, they believe it. That's what Dennis and I
were just talking about. Uh what was that Thursday night?
I guess we were talking about that. I mean, even
if even if we don't believe stuff, they believe it, okay,
and uh, and it's it's it doesn't matter. There's there's
that doesn't make it any less real that people could

(01:12:08):
be doing some kind of witchcraft to conjure up portals
and dark entities and all that kind of stuff, and
it stays there. That's why I get a little concerned
about you living right there near the LBL with all
the no telling what I was being conjured out there.
You know, I do. I do worry about it a
little bit sometimes for you, Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
Well you know, uh, you know I have I've had
some pretty weird stuff happen, you know, and my big
thing is you know, I'm not I'm not even though

(01:12:47):
I may not subscribe to someone's personal beliefs, you know,
I'm not. I'm not here to persecute anybody. I'm not
here to you know, you know, tell someone that they're
wrong for believing the way that they believe, because at

(01:13:08):
the end of the day, you have scenarios where where
they may be a result of their circumstances that they
were brought up in, where that's the only thing they've experienced,
you know. I mean, you take someone and you only

(01:13:33):
like for example, and I know this is going to
sound crazy as an example, but if you take a
kid and you bring him up and you feed him
blueberry pancakes every morning, every morning, he'll.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Turn into a blueberry I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Well, if he doesn't turn into a blueberry pancake, then
you know, based off of being exposed to that, you know,
later on, if somebody tries to give him eggs instead
of blueberry pancakes, he may not be as accepting of

(01:14:15):
those eggs because he's only experienced blueberry pancakes. And that's
the same thing that you run into with with other
aspects of life in general. You know, if a person
is only exposed to certain things, then to them that
is the norm. And you know, who am I to

(01:14:40):
tell the kid or the person that their belief is
is good, bad or wrong, right, because that's because of
them being the results of their experience. But at the
end of the day, you can, you can and try

(01:15:00):
to influence that person, you know, I gotta I gotta
tell you. I used to think about this all the
time when I was when I was a younger researcher,
and I would say to myself, you know, I didn't
start investigating all this stuff to learn about people. But

(01:15:22):
I tell you what, Yeah, it does. And and the
weird thing about it is you learn a lot about people,
probably more than you want to, you know, just you know,
in interacting with them. And and that doesn't make a
person good or bad or otherwise. It just makes them

(01:15:43):
who they are. And you know, the only way that
that that we can affect change in in someone's direction
is to, you know, expose it to other things that
that that they're they've never been expos those two possibly.
And you know another key factor to that is you know, uh,

(01:16:12):
you know those saying you can you can attract you
can track more with honey than you can with anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Yes, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
You know you don't want to you don't want to
persecute people. Uh, there's too much of that to be
to be honest with you, and you know, I guess
I'm talking about this because that's not what I'm here for.
I'm not here to persecute anybody. But if you roll
up on me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
I wouldn't roll up you. Okay, I know better.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Shoot, if you roll up on me, they'll be ready.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Oh my gosh, I'm not rolling up on you. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I want to thank Amy so much for that super
stigerious Thank you Jessica for always remembering the missing with
dignity and empathy and trying to connect the dots. Wonderful
discussion as always. Thank you so much. Amy. That's socialating you.
Thank you for your support. We appreciate you. Yeah, it's uh, yeah,
it's uh. There's there's a lot that goes into being

(01:17:21):
out in the field, having your mind right, getting to
know people. That's why I joke around. I'm like no
new friends. When it comes to the encryptied you know,
research and stuff, it's like, you know, stick stick with
my team because we know that sounds crazy, right, but
it's like you've got to know who you're out there
with and where their mind's at. Okay, Uh, you got
to and uh and to be able to handle uh,

(01:17:44):
really sticky situations out there, dark situations, dark energies. You know,
the minute I start feeling like dark energy and stuff,
I don't want to be there. And my gut will
tell me get out of there, Okay, get out of there, like,
don't stick around because the bad is about to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Those definitely, And and you know, I know it's kind
of hard to gauge that in other people. That's why
through the years, you know, I made I made the
comment to you the other night about you know, being
about uh telling people, you know, if they want to know,
go find out for themselves. You know, I used to
refuse to take people to the l b L kind

(01:18:25):
of due to to a to a degree, I'm very
picky when it comes to that because of the simple
fact that it's so hard to gauge where someone's at
psychologically and spiritually. You know, when you're when you're trying
to be you know, concerned about where you're at. So

(01:18:49):
that things in the environment don't affect you. So it
just creates a level of responsibility and and liability that
makes it more dangerous than not to take someone into
an area like that. You know, I hear a lot
of people. Hear a lot of people say, oh, well,

(01:19:12):
I want to go to the LBL. I want to
do this, I want to do that. That's all fine
and dandy, but one thing you need to realize when
you come up here. This is not rookie land, this
is not this is not for the week, this is
not for the faint of heart. The LBL is no joke.

(01:19:33):
And I think that a lot of people underestimate that factor.
You know, Yeah, you go in there during the daytime.
It looks pretty. It's you know, it looks pristine, it's
all beautiful and wonderful. But you can get into areas

(01:19:57):
even during the daytime where it just something is not right.
And when the sun goes down over there, it there's
a there's a shift that takes place that I can't
even I can't explain it. The energy is just off

(01:20:17):
the chain and it it has a different effect on people.
And it's just I think people underestimate it because they've
heard so much about it, and I think that they're
doing that in air.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
Oh man. Yeah, well, there's just there's been a lot
of a lot of I mean, I get maybe. Okay,
let me let me back up a little bit because
I want to address out one part you just said
about the when the sun goes down. Okay, that is
that is not just the LBO. That's everywhere that I've

(01:21:02):
ever researched, by the way, Okay, is the minute the
sun goes down. It's that moment of like right before
it's purely dark out there, the energy completely shifts the
inner It doesn't matter where I'm at, the meadow or
you know, wherever we're at. As soon as the sun

(01:21:23):
goes down, there is an energetic shift in everything. It's
like it's like the dimensions shift. I swear that's exactly
what it feels like. I have no other way to
describe it other than that it's just something something. It
doesn't feel good, Okay, it doesn't. So I know exactly
what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
And you know, I was thinking about this yesterday. Actually,
you know, our perception I talked about this earlier. You know,
we only perceive what five percent of what's actually there.
You know, our perception, whether we want to acknowledge it
or not, is based off of light. Yeah, and I

(01:22:04):
know what I'm fixing to say is probably gonna obsess
with people. But you know, you need to to do
your research and you know, and and and find for
yourself what what works for you. But my understanding of
what reality is is either the presence of light to

(01:22:30):
varying degrees or the absence of light. And when you
when you have an absence of light i e. Nighttime,
I think that some of these energies, thought forms, entities,

(01:22:54):
whatever you want to call them, it is easier for
them to maneuver for because you know, I don't I
don't know how, I don't know how other people perceive
the spiritual realm. But if it's daytime and I see
something that is of darkness in the spiritual realm near me,

(01:23:20):
if I if I see it it sticks out not
so much or not so easy to do in the
absence of light. I eat darkness.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Yeah, it's all fun and games. So the sun goes down, okay,
softening games, it's a completely different and that is a
it's another dimension opens up for something. And yeah, it's
the darkness that's where. And some places are way more

(01:24:01):
negatively energetic, I guess we could say than others. And
I would assume the LBL would be feel like more
negative than a lot of places. Some of those places
like that courts would manter. I hate bringing that place
up again. It is horrible when that sun goes down.
I mean just horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Yeah, I'll be there. I thought about going down there,
but I'm just not I'm just not in tune. Would
put myself around a bunch of negative energy like that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
No, No, not at all, not at all. Big Footward
said that he he'll have something for somebody when they
roll up on him, and he said it was a
fatty whatever that is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
I'm just kidding. H Yeah, I don't know. That's That's
like the last thing that I would I would think
anybody want to do to somebody in the LBL two
would be to like try to surprise them or you know,
even like people that I can't imagine anybody ever, I
need to like hoax somebody or whatever. I would think
that being in those woods would be very dangerous. Okay,

(01:25:07):
with all of the researchers that are out there, the
hunters that are out there and all that kind of stuff.
I couldn't imagine anybody like wanting to roll up on
somebody out there, okay, and like to try to scare
them or treat them whatever. That's not gonna end. Well, okay,
So don't do it. If anybody's listening or ever thinking
about doing that, don't ever do it, y'all. I just can't.
I don't see anybody anybody would ever do that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
But well, I think a lot of it goes back
to the whole psychological state of the individual, you know,
because I mean the reality is, you know, if somebody's unstable,
you know, they're gonna do and say things that they
normally wouldn't. Or if they're unstable as the result of
some sort of influence, whether that be the influence of

(01:25:53):
alcohol or drugs, some sort of spiritual influence, you know,
the result is the same. In my opinion, I am,
by the way, I'm not a psychologist psychiatrist.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
You wait, no doctor, no doctor, you don't even play.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
On on TV. If you think you got issues, then
I encourage.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
You to go seek help.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Go seek help by somebody that's professionally qualified to render aid.
It ain't me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Oh my gosh, I have a question for you. Okay,
isn't there a place there? I don't know a whole
lot about this, but I've heard there is a vampire
motel out there. That is What is the Vampire Motel
at the LBL? What is that? Am I saying it right?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
It's they call it the It was called the Vampire Hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Hotel, not a motel. It was a hotel. I stand corrected.
I'm so sorry. So, okay, you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Have two places there that a lot of people get confused.
Historic they were the Vampire Hotel and the Hotel California.
So Hotel California is an old remnant of a home place.
There was a riverboat captain that had built that wanted

(01:27:21):
to build his home there. His name was I forget
his first name, but his last name was Marr Marler,
and he built this place for his wife. It overlooked
the lake and it was just one of those set
up on a hill kind of and it was just

(01:27:43):
a wonderful place out in the middle of the woods.
So I don't know whether it's the result of the
two places being confused, but through time it was dubbed
by visitors as being Hotel California. Well, if you know
the song Hotel California, you know it's it's supposedly, you know,

(01:28:08):
where you go to make a deal with dark entities
or with the devil or what have you. And you
know you can once you once you go in, you
can never leave kind of thing, just like the Eagles song.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Yeah oh man, you can check out any time you like,
but you can never leave.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah, Okay, trust me when when they say you can
check out thing talking about a bunch of your car
to go down the street, They talk about check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Check it out?

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Real?

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Didn't they ask for theirs?

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
What was that? I'm trying to think of the word.
That was the first cassette tape I ever bought with
my own money, Okay, was the Eagles Hotel California. And
I knew that whole album from my cassette tape, Okay,
Fords and backwards, I knew that. Well, I didn't know
backwards that sounds weird. Don't play music backwards all that
sounds weird. I didn't mean it like that, But you

(01:29:00):
could flip a tape over, okay, where I can recall, right,
that's what I meant for people who don't know what
a cassette tape how it works. Okay, there's probably a
lot of people that don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
And then, yes, you have the Vampire Hotel. So many
years ago, there was a young man and his entourage
of groupies I'll use that term, who thought they were
vampires and wanted to be vampires and what have you.
And basically they ended up going on a killing spree

(01:29:32):
and down in Florida, killed one of the girls parents
and thought they were gonna, you know, become vampires as
as such. Rough through their misdeeds ended up they got caught.
Some of them went to prison. One of them went.

(01:29:54):
The leader was a guy by the name of Rod Farrell.
As far as I know, he's still in prison. I
think he. I think he received a death penalty initially,
but it was commuted to life without proh don't quote

(01:30:16):
beyond that. Do your own research. But anyways, the Vampire
Hotel was a structure that was that was there in
a location in the l BO that they hung out in.
That's where they would go have their little meetups and
do their little rituals.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
And so they were doing rituals there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
So that's where they would go and hang out. As
far as I know, the original structure was torn down
a few years ago and the only thing that that
is left of it is the foundation of the building,

(01:31:03):
So basically it's just a concrete pad at this point
and some of the landscaping around the area.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
So thank you for explaining that, because I did not know.
I didn't know about Hotel California. Okay, I never heard
of that one. Yeah, that's the Vampire Hotel, though i'd
heard of that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
There's a lot of people that get the two confused,
and there's some that say that or think that, you know,
Hotel California is the Vampire Hotel, which is not, and
vice versa. There are people out there that think that
the Vampire Hotel was Hotel California. Two totally separate different

(01:31:42):
locations in get way different locations. And yeah, so that's
the bolts of that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Well, that's so they were out there do that. It
was obviously a place, you know, from what I know,
and I don't know a whole lot, okay, but from
my investigations for my research, people who do rituals out
in the woods don't just go to any random spot
usually some they go to where there's a place of power.
And I don't know for sure if this is every case,

(01:32:20):
but they go somewhere, maybe it's lay lines, I don't know,
places that are cursed. Maybe they're cursing, I don't know,
but they go to certain places. And so it makes
you wonder if they've been out there doing for decades,
decades ago they were doing rituals out there. Maybe that

(01:32:43):
has something to do with some of the cryptis that
have been conjured there from when they were doing it
back then. I'm assuming people still go there, especially says
it made the news, you know how people see things
in the news and they hear about it, and so
it's just like with Corpsewood man or that place is
a hot spot, a hotbed of inic activity still to
this day.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Well, I like I want to defer to you know,
the the Bill Snowbling interviews or William you know, and
and I don't know, he's recently, since he's gotten older,
he's done some more you know, in depth interviews and
and really given a lot of information about you know,

(01:33:26):
what he was involved in and his his uh, his
journey back to Christ and how he was was was
saved from that that darkness that he was involved with,
and uh, you know, it's very very interesting. But the

(01:33:48):
reality is, you know, at the end of the day,
when you're involved in that that the levels of satanism
that he was involved in, as he described in his interviews,
he talks about, you know, having the the opportunity to

(01:34:09):
either become a vampire or a werewolf. And you know,
you know, at what level of influence that had on
the whole h m hm, Rod Ferrell Vampire Hotel incident,

(01:34:30):
I don't know, but it's it is. It is interesting
for the simple fact that you have someone who was
at such a high level who's relating that you know,
that stuff is real and it happens, and it's it's

(01:34:55):
it's very interesting, you know that that he came out
with that information, and yeah, it's just it's just interesting.
Like I said, I don't know, I don't know what
level of interaction there was between the two, but you know,

(01:35:18):
most most of the time, people people are creatures of
habit and people tend to do things based off of
things that they're exposed to. And you know, Rod Ferrell,
in my opinion, he was exposed to this stuff. You

(01:35:42):
know the whole concept of vampirism and you know, wanting
you know, I mean self admittedly, they were involved in
some kind of board game or something. No, it was
it was vampires the something or another. I can't remember

(01:36:03):
what it was called. But yeah, it's very very very
interesting that, you know, he was exposed to that, and
you know, in the back of my mind, I'm wondering,
you know, what other stuff was he exposed to that
you know, caused him to hold that belief, and you

(01:36:26):
know what kind of psychological influences was he exposed to
that cost him? Because I mean he he actually believed
that he was a five hundred year old vampire.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Man. Oh wow, who was I having a conversation with?

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Yeah, Darryl James was on the show on was that Wednesday?
And he's part of the Secret Space Program. He was
actually the US Navy for a while and served time
in the Middle East everything, and he was signed a
contract to join the Secret Space Program and yeah, he

(01:37:03):
he what was he bringing up?

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
I forgot. I just lost my thought there. Okay, I
started thinking about Darryl. Dang it was it vampirism? I
can't remember Anyways, I forgot. I was saying, sorry, I
had a senior moment. I'm having a senior moment. That happens.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
The thing. The thing with that is, you know, I mean,
a person doesn't just wake up one day and decide, oh,
it was a five hundred year old vampire. You know.
That's what it was, knowing knowing full well that you're
not five hundred years old.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Unless I don't know though that's not true, because listen,
I'm not saying it's not true, but that's what Daryl
was saying. He said, those all these actors and actresses
that I've been talking about could be cloned. He said, no,
they're living off the blood of children. He said, that's
what they're doing. Now. This is this is what Daryl says. Okay,
I'm not this is for entertainment purposes only, y'all. And
it's terrible that I even have to say that, okay,

(01:38:02):
because the topic is just horrible. But he said that
that's what a lot of these what's going on these
underground bases, and I think there's problems. Could be an
underground facility under the LBL. I don't know. I'm just
saying it's possibility, but uh, but He said that they're
extracting blood from people and even maybe maybe even kids, okay,

(01:38:23):
and things like that, thank you, thank you, Jane. Yes,
for entertainment purposes only. But he said that they're that
these people actually are vampires. They actually are vampires. They've
been they've been around for hundreds of years, for centuries,
because they're living off the blood of other humans. And uh,
I don't know, it's just a possibility, mark, that's all

(01:38:45):
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
I'm just saying, well, I've done some research on the subject,
and you know, I mean, uh, actually you know, from
from what I've encountered with it, you know there's a
there's a spiritual and a physical component, and you know,

(01:39:08):
from the information that I've come across, you know, I
would say that it's it's highly it's highly possible that
because I mean, the reality of it is this. You know,
always tell people, I always tell people, and this is
something you can look up and research yourself. Ask yourself
this simple question, why is there a forty foot wall

(01:39:32):
around the Vatican?

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
I don't know there are a bunch of vampires, don't No,
I don't know. That's a good question. Tell me so.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
In the in the his histories that have been buried, yeah,
many years ago. And this is what's weird is you
know we talk about history being modified and certain things
being hidden.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
You know, I a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it in full effect,
so even in recent history. So there was a book
that came out in the early eighties that I had
a physical copy of, and somehow I lost that book

(01:40:22):
or either I had lost it or I had barred
it from somebody was reading it and I returned it.
I don't remember exactly what the scenario is. I've slept
since then. But but if you go and try to
find that book right now, you cannot find the original

(01:40:42):
version of that book anywhere. And it deals with a
lot of the things that we're encountering in our day
to day life. And that's all I'm going to say
about that particular book. It's not it's it's kind of
like nineteen eighty four, yeah, the Orwell book. It's it's

(01:41:07):
kind of like that in a sense, but a little
bit more on the on the extreme informational side, you know,
like this is what they're gonna do, this is their plan,
this is how they're going to do it. And you know,
nineteen eighty four does the same thing, but it does
it in a in the presentation of a fictional way

(01:41:31):
or a fictional story to portray the information that it's
trying to get across. This particular book that I'm talking about,
which I'm not going to say the name of it is,
is a little bit more extreme in in that nature.
It's like cut dried nobs. This is what it is.
And yeah, it's just kind of interesting. But in one

(01:41:56):
of the old histories that I had come across in
many years ago, there was a story that I came
across that talked about and we always yelp. I always
ask people this question to why are there so many
zombie movies? Right, there's a lot, There's a lot. So

(01:42:19):
there was a historical documentation of a zombie outbreak a
long time ago, a long time ago that happened in Europe,
and that outbreak is part of the reason why some

(01:42:43):
of the locations over there have such high walls, is
because they were trying to keep them out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Is that why the Vatican has high walls?

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
That's the implication that that was given in the information
that I came across. Now, I'm not saying that that's
one hundre percent that Uh, calm down, leo, don't roll.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
Up on me. We know better, you know better.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
But you know, that was the implication that was given.
So you know, that's why I encourage everybody to do
their own research. Is is because you know, the information
that I might have come across might not have been accurate,
and that might not be the reason why they have
forty foot walls around the place anyways. But it's it's

(01:43:36):
interesting that that a lot of the places over there,
like some of the monasteries and stuff, if you look
at them, they have high walls around them too. Why
is that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
And and I I get it from the historical perspective
that a lot of the regions were you have seen
hundreds of years of war and giant but yeah, but
you know, you have to have to ask yourself, you know,
is there more to the story, and then you have
to determine for yourself if there is. And you know,

(01:44:19):
that's my encouragement to everybody is to do their own
research and not let not even me, don't let me
lead you, you know, because I'm human just like everybody else,
or most of us.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I got to say not everybody's human. I'm learning, okay,
in whatever sense of a definition of human is at
this point. Yeah, and my my definition of a human
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
So you know, I'm not and I don't claim to
be perfect. I don't claim to be an expert on anything,
but you know, I I do like to encourage people
to think for themselves and try to at least try
to find the information, because that's the only thing that's
gonna that's gonna make anything, you know, real to a

(01:45:17):
person is for them to experience it in some way, shape, form,
or fashion. And that's that's my encouragement for the day.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Hey, we could all use some good encouragement. Protect ourselves
from zombies. The CDC actually did put out a zombie
apocalypse manual basically a few years ago. I've covered it
on my show before I did a whole show. I
covered at least half that show for sure, talking about
the protocols for a zombie breakout. And it was it

(01:45:52):
was tongue in cheek, but was it. I don't know.
It's well, they have to put it out there and
tell us what's about to happen, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Well, the interesting thing about it is, you know, we
have at least two movies that I'm aware of. I
think it's what twenty eight days later? Twenty eight days
and then you have and then you have what is
that one with Will Smith in it? I am legend.

(01:46:21):
So you have those two least two movies where they
come out and what does the movie start out with?
We've come up with this vaccine for cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Oh lord, it's playing out in real time right now,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
And all I'm seeing is this country, that country has
come up with a vaccine that for cancer, for this
type of cancer, that type of cantment.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
And it's always it's like The Walking Dead too. It's
always the CDC's involved, you know, like they got to
get to you know that place. Man, It's it's in
all the zombie movies. It's always an outbreak, right outbreak.
He's gotten out of control.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
And about it is, you know, we have as as
as the individuals that we are. And I'm trying to
think of a generic way to put this to where

(01:47:24):
you know, I'm not trying to be offensive to anybody,
but you know, my particular belief is this you could
take it or leave it. I'm not trying to force
it on you believe how you want to. But you know,
I believe, I believe that God is within us and

(01:47:45):
that we because He is within us, that we have
co creation abilities as it pertains to our reality. And
and I've said this before in the chat on the show,

(01:48:06):
I believe that a lot of this stuff that they're
putting out the programming is to try to get us
to unknowingly use that unknowingly use that creation ability to
create the reality that they want and not the reality
that we want. So in saying that we have the

(01:48:31):
ability to change that, and you know, that's at the
end of the day, I think that's that's that's why
you had twenty twenty eight books that were taken out
of the Bible and and you know, you know, deemed
gnostic texts because yeah, you know whatever they call them

(01:48:57):
based on them being removed, you know, and I've read
some of them, and some of the things that are
included in them, they would be very damaging to the
powers that be just based off of what they are.

Speaker 1 (01:49:16):
That's why they're not there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Anymore because they don't want they don't want to lose
the grasp of control that they have upon the people
of the world and at.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
The end of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
At the end of the day, I'm all about freedom.
But one thing I always tell people is, you know,
you can be about freedom, but you also have to
be about responsibility. Freedom doesn't give you does it give

(01:49:52):
you a free pass to do whatever you want. You
have to accept per so responsibility for the freedom that
you that you have or that you you know, I
mean ninety nine percent of the disperception you know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Yeah, well we are. That's why I tell everyone, do
not live in fear. That's the last thing I say
on all my shows. I try to always remember to
always convey that to the audience. Don't live in fear.
Turn the news off, okay, and just the the programming
that we get and stuff. It's time that we all

(01:50:33):
become deprogrammed from the matrix. Okay. And because we are
as a collective consciousness, we do create their reality for them,
and it is out of fear. It's fear based and
a lot of us have stepped out of it, and
we are trying to take everybody with us. Okay, at
this point, I don't know, y'all. Y'all welcome to come along.

(01:50:56):
I'm not trying to do anything anymore. But y'all welcome
to i'mong for the ride and skip. Thank you so
much for that supersticker. I appreciate you, and I hope
your gig went well tonight if you're playing nights, and
thank you for being here. Yes, n k D says apocrypha. Apocrypha,
I can't pronounce it. Apocrypool text is what I studied

(01:51:16):
in college. Actually, I took a class on the Bible
as literature. Actually I was an English major in case
y'all didn't know. Okay, But but the inconvenient to them texts, Yeah,
that's right to them, They to whoever they are, right
the controllers or whatever. That's that's interesting. It's the truth though.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Yeah, yes it is very interesting. But you know, I mean,
at the end of the day, you know one one thing,
irregardless of whatever you know. And I'm just I'm just
saying this because I feel I need to. You know,
there's a lot of dark stuff going on in this world.
And you know, it doesn't it doesn't cost anything to

(01:52:07):
be to care about other people, it doesn't it, you know,
I mean, you don't have to, you don't have to
go out of your way to I mean I'll be
the first too. Men, there's people, there's people out there,
and you know who you are. I don't really care
for you. I don't care for any the things you do.

(01:52:28):
That doesn't mean that I devalue you in any way
as a human being or a person. It doesn't mean
that I'm going to put myself in your presence. But
that doesn't mean that I don't love you as a person.
And I think that that's where a lot of people
mess up, is they get on this kick of you know,

(01:52:50):
where they get in that oh well, I don't like
that so and so because of so and so they
said this or they did that, and they get on
this you know, narcissistic you know path of you know,
trying to bury somebody because of stuff like that. And
I think it's it's wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Yeah, I had somebody try to bury me, but I
was a seed and I just grew from it. Okay,
it happened, turned into a beautiful little bud. Okay. So
oh man, I feel you, Mark, I feel you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
And uh and here we thought we would burn some
buildings down and start some fires and stuff, and it's
actually turned into in my opinion, I like to hope
and think that it's a somewhat positive message for people.
You know, it is at the end of the day,
like I said, you can either be you can either

(01:53:54):
be part of the light or you can be part
of the absence of light.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Part of the absence of light. Yeah, that's the darkness,
the darkness, that's the absence of light. Though. That's true. Yeah,
well we're I like shining light on the dark stuff.
And uh, it's not it's not easy and it's not
real fun to talk about the dark stuff. But but

(01:54:24):
it's something that we all should be aware of and
and all need to be you know, not that we
need to keep our attention on it, but we just
need to be aware of it, you know. And that's
why I do these shows. It's part of the reason
I do the shows. It's tough, tough topics, but we
do we do it with a light heart, okay, and

(01:54:45):
we do it to try to I want to say that,
to help Okay, to help people not be afraid of
whatever it is out there. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Oh yeah, Well it's like like I was saying earlier,
you know, I mean, in my in my exampling of
you know, talking about you know, people that I don't
really care for for whatever reason. You know that that
doesn't mean, like I said, it doesn't mean that I'm
gonna condemn them. And you know, I mean the exhibition

(01:55:23):
of love takes many shaped forms and has many presentations,
and it's just up up to us to perceive and
understand what that is. You know. It's like, you know,
if you have something bad, something you perceive as being bad.

(01:55:45):
Let's say you had a friend that you were and
I'm just using this as an example. You have a
friend that decides they don't want anything to do with
you anymore. You might look at that it's bad, but
there may be a reason for that, and it may
turn into a blessing at some point. Yeah, because of

(01:56:05):
you know, whatever circumstances might existed that you weren't aware of.
So I think that a lot of that comes into play,
not just with interacting with people, but also with the
interacted with these cryptids.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
You know. Yeah, everything happens for a reason, Mark, Okay,
everything does and and and plus here's another thing too.
Whenever we change our varirational frequency, whenever we ascend as
we I guess I could say, right a sind, I mean,
it depends on You can go up and down in frequency, right,
but that's who you know. Not everybody's meant to walk

(01:56:49):
with you your entire journey here on earth, okay. And
and people will come and go out of is our
frequencies change, and we're going to be on the same frequency,
you know with those around us. We magnetize, it's the
same frequency. And so uh, people just come and come
in and out of frequencies, okay. And uh. And we
are meant to bump heads with people sometimes, We're meant to.

(01:57:11):
That's part of that's part of life. And and that's
how we come and go out of our different frequencies.
And we align with the people we're meant to align
with at some point, okay, at all times. And that's
that's what I believe. Okay, that's what I believe. And uh.
And so try to have no hard feelings towards anybody
for anything. You know. I have been I've been treated

(01:57:32):
pretty bad, okay a lot of times in my life.
But I've also been treated really good too, and uh,
and I appreciate all of it. Kind of Yeah, I
try to. I try to look at the sunny side, man,
I try uh and uh and so that's you know,
it's just it's just a part of life. Once you's
once you change your perspective on everything and you see

(01:57:54):
the world like that, you know, it makes things a
little bit easier.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
I guess, yeah, yeah, Well, like I said in ninety
nine percent of it comes down to perception, you know,
how you how you take take in and perceive what
you experience. You know, And I don't know why I

(01:58:19):
even drifted into this subject, but I think it. I
think it's important for the simple reason that, you know,
I think interactions, some interactions or most interactions with cryptids
are related somehow to that that subject or that topic

(01:58:40):
of energetics, and how it how it plays into what
you experience, you know, because you know, I always I
always like to revert back to the to the to
the lines of the oracle in the Matrix movies. You know,
what does she say? She says, every time you encounter

(01:59:03):
a ghost or a spirit or Bigfoot or some kind
of cryptic creature or whatever, it's usually the result of
And that's this is just I'm not quoting it, just
ad living, you know, paraphrasing whatever. It's the result of
someone doing something within the matrix that they're not supposed

(01:59:26):
to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Whoa, they're not supposed to be doing, so they're breaking
out of the matrix. That what she means by that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
I don't know exactly whether breaking out of the matrix
would cross anything like that, but it's definitely the results
of them doing something that they're not supposed to be, not.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Supposed to be but that that would to me, that
sounds like, well, the matrix is very it's like a
To me, it's like a prison kind of. It's like
a cont struck, you know, like where we are, you know.
It's almost like the game of life, and my my
reality is to bust out of this, okay like that.

(02:00:10):
It's like I'm not saying life is like all a
big game, but it kind of is a little bit
and it's like a if you want to call, like
a simulation kind of and it's like it's like the
goal and my reality is to get out of it,
you know, and to find a go beyond whatever whatever
it is that we're confined to. I don't know. I'm

(02:00:32):
no oracle. Well, I mean maybe I was. I was
the Oracle of the South before I was the Crypti
hunters By the way. Okay, that was my channel before
I was the Crypti Hunters. Uh but uh so maybe
I am. But uh but nonetheless, that's interesting because people
because people are doing something, there's somebody doing something they're
not supposed to be doing.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
I'll be.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
It's a lot to chew on right there. Actually it is, Yeah,
it is. You can look at that and from a
bunch of different angles and in Katie, sorry, my contactual
blurry tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
We appreciate you just getting mark. Thank you so much.
I appreciate you very much. Thank you for that supersticker.
Your supporter is greatly appreciated. And yeah, there's some really
good lines from The Matrix. That is one of the
best movies. And uh and I know I got to
hang out with Tom Althouse. He wrote The Immortals a
long time ago. He claims that is what they based

(02:01:28):
that movie off of. Actually, and I know there's other
people that claim to have written The Matrix and all that.
So it's a big old it's a big old miss Okay. Somebody,
somebody got it out there as a movie, though, and
that is pretty profound. I think there is no spoon Okay,

(02:01:49):
there's no spoon okay. And there's a bunch of agent
Smiths around us at all times trying to keep us
in line, okay, And and they're the ones that are
making sure we're doing what we're supposed to do. But see,
that's when we and that's the thing with the frequencies
that you mentioned, right, I've always said that it's a

(02:02:09):
frequency thing, and that's why some of us see bigfoots
and have these crypet experiences and others don't. And I
had a perfect example of that that one night where
my son and I were both seeing orbs in our
living room, and my son's father was not, and he
could only see them through his phone on the camera
on the screen on his phone. And so that showed
me that was the first time that I had evidence,

(02:02:32):
proof proof that not everyone can see what I see.

Speaker 2 (02:02:36):
Yeah. Well, one of the prime examples of that is,
you know, I don't know how many times I've heard
where you have a person that you have a group
of people, ten or more people, half of them roughly
can see a bigfoot, the other half of them see
a deer or a squirrel or a rabbit. Yes, And

(02:02:57):
you know, how does that? How does that work? You know?
Is it like, I don't know, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
On your free that's the thing. It's like we're like
a think of it as like a radio station, right,
or like a radio and some of us are too.
You tune into the different frequencies and at that moment
in time we are on the same frequency. Like my
son and I, for instance, we're on the frequency of
those orbs, the orbs whatever this light sources, what it
may be. They're even a higher frequency than we were

(02:03:27):
because maybe it was some kind of et or something, Okay,
I don't know, and maybe that we're just a higher frequency.
So we were able. We were just high enough to
be able to see balls of light. My my son's
father was on a low I'm not going to say
he's on a low frequency, Okay, just say it. I
don't know, And so he didn't see anything, and so

(02:03:49):
we were. But my son and I were high enough
to see it, but we couldn't see it in this
real form. I mean, shoot, there might have been straight
up aliens and standing right in front of us, and
all we saw were balls of light.

Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
Could be.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
Could have been. That's what Darryl James was telling us
on Wednesday with the Secret Space program. He said that
there were people in the programs he was working with
that actually had to wear a belt or a bracelet
to keep them in the frequency to be able to
communicate with humans. It was like ets and human interaction,
because if they didn't have on those belts and whatever

(02:04:23):
kind of technology they had, the humans wouldn't even be
able to see them. They'd be a flash of light.
He said, I don't really it's very It all connects.
I'd love bringing people from different communities and backgrounds on
the show so we can connect the dots.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
I'm going to look up when I say this. I
don't really know a whole lot about any of that
secret space programs.

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yes. Well, I will be speaking at
the Super Soldier Activation Conference in October down in Orlandos,
So I'm going to be presenting on some remote viewing
I've done and stuff that correlates with some of their
testimony actually from those programs. So I think it's pretty interesting.

(02:05:11):
It's pretty interesting. So it's just it's just, you know,
we talk about seeing flashes of light and stuff out
in the field. I mean, I'm sure you've seen them
at the LBL. I've seen them at places I research.
I've seen them in my house. Okay, We've had flashes
of light in the house, around the house, at my farm, everywhere,
and according to what And it makes total sense now

(02:05:33):
because I haven't thought, well, maybe it was like a
portal opening or something, but Daryl said, that's something else.
It's in another It's like in another dimension. It's like aliens.
It's other beings just in a different frequency right in
front of us, and all we see is a flash
of light because we're just not on a high enough
frequency to see them. We just see lights.

Speaker 2 (02:05:54):
Yeah, there was a there was a time when I
would see, like, I don't like flashes of light. They
weren't really like orbs floating around, but they would be
like flashes of light, and uh yeah, it's kind of

(02:06:16):
kind of interesting how all that works. Frequency vibration.

Speaker 1 (02:06:23):
Kent says, when you realize you were living in a
holographic creation, things made more sense. Just like the matrix.
It's all. It's all. We live in a video game.
We're like in Fortnite. I'm just kidding Fortnite. Everybody, we're
gonna go, We're gonna go beat up some people. They
were gonna do a dance. Okay, that's an absurd life
is though sometimes for me, I'm just saying, let's have

(02:06:45):
a dance off right after we go, and you know,
most people down I don't know, it's weird, weird this
reality I am. I am chasing dog Man Bigfoot, so
it's not much different than that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
But you know, in my opinion, and this is just
my opinion, I think that that that concept game concept
exists strictly for the purpose of desensitizing people to different concepts.

(02:07:22):
You know, Oh, we're gonna go beat up some people
and then we're gonna go have a dance, you know.
I mean it's like, yeah, it's like we're gonna go
do something bad and then we're gonna go do something good.
And in reality. One thing, well, just to back up
a little bit, one thing that I learned many years

(02:07:44):
ago when I was introduced to someone who was involved
in some Alphabet agency type stuff. Not gonna get into
that story, but basically, certain things you know, virtual reality wise,
your mind cannot tell the difference between virtual reality and reality.

(02:08:09):
And that's why it's so easy if you look at
people that are involved in those three D virtual worlds,
stuff like that, there's a higher occurrence of those people
who become very what's the word I want to use. Well,

(02:08:35):
I mean they get upset about stuff within the virtual
world because their mind can't tell the difference between that
and reality. So, you know, being exposed to those different
things in the in the VR, it has the same
effect as as as being in in real reality. M so,

(02:09:07):
and I think that the push and this is just
me talking from a tech tech standpoint. You know, I
am a a tech guy. I think that you know,
the whole introduction of VR is a is a is
a layer that has been formulated to further the psychological

(02:09:30):
enslavement for entertainment purposes.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Only, right, Yeah, you know I've been thinking about this
a lot lately, about the idea that dogmen, bigfoot, cryptis.
I mean, here here we are talking about this like
virtual reality life and living in a holographic universe and
stuff and all the different dimensions and seeing flashes of light,

(02:09:56):
but it's really just a being. This is a little
higher frequency or a little lower frequency or whatever. It's
all so weird, right, it just sounds so weird, but
like getting into it's like, is Bigfoot just a hologram okay,
dog man, I don't know, it doesn't It doesn't make
sense when we're sitting here talking about like, well maybe

(02:10:17):
a dog man, unalive people at the LBL and stuff too.
You know, I don't know, my brain hurts. Sometimes my
brain just starts hurting. Cyborgs though, that's what I was
getting to. Cyborgs too. I know it was kind of
a little off topic here, but the idea, you know,
that's something Darryl and I talked about on Wednesday, were

(02:10:39):
was the idea of And so I just watched the
video about this earlier today, somebody, my buddy, my friend Rene,
had sent me a video of someone that was I
don't know if he was talking with like Emery Smith
or somebody maybe on Gaya or something. I'm not sure,
but they're talking about how he had been in a
secret space program almost twenty and backs and they were
taking parts of like wear wolves and stuff, taking body

(02:11:04):
parts of cryptids and making cyborgs out of them. I
know it sounds so a lot of things I talk
about sound really odd and strange, but this is not
the first time I had heard this before that it's
almost like we have these like secret space programs and
stuff where they're taking beings and ets and things like

(02:11:24):
wear wolves, dog men, and creating super soldiers like cyborgs.
I mean, what are the odds that that's I know,
we got weird stuff going on at like underground bases
and all that kind of stuff too, experimentations hybrids human
animal hybrid experiments and stuff like that. But what are
the odds of something being at the land between the lakes.

(02:11:46):
It could be like an experiment.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
Well, here's the reality of it. There was an incident
that I heard about that happened up in about I
would say maybe two two and a half hours, two

(02:12:12):
hours northeast of here. There was a gentleman that had
encountered a dog man. And I'm surprised you've never mentioned this.
It's one of those reports that's if you've never heard it,
you don't know it because it's not in a database anywhere,
and I'm sure of or that I'm aware of. But

(02:12:37):
this gentleman had seen this, this dog man creature, and
there were two distinct things that were odd about it.
The first being that it was, in fact, according to
the witness, was wearing armor. And it you know, you

(02:12:59):
have accounts where uh they were reported with like a
mane that starts at the back of their neck, it
goes across their back. It relate. He related that across
this thing's back it had metal spikes instead of fir
stop it that were protruding out of its body, like

(02:13:20):
it was a weapon across its back. And it wasn't
like you picture. It wasn't like you would picture, like, uh,
somebody that's got one of those leather jackets on with
the metal spikes like a biker.

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
Jacket, like a punk jacket.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
Yeah, you know, those are the kind of spikes that
I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is this thing's
hair of its main was metallic.

Speaker 1 (02:13:48):
What you're dead serious too? Oh my gosh, I've never
heard that. You never told me about this. Here I
am questioning about where where will cyborgs? Well, there we go, man,
you never know what kind of rabbit hole we're diving
down tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:14:08):
Here's here's another thing that I've I've been seeing a
lot of here lately. You know, you've got the whole
concept of the terminator, right, you got the T one thousand,
which was the original Arnold terminator, and then you had
the what was the next generation that they came out
with was the one that was like liquid.

Speaker 1 (02:14:28):
And that's something that is I've thought about that liquid
robotic liquid metal stuff like yes, I talked about that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
They actually have created that and it could do just
like that Terminator.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Can you know they had that created before that movie
came out and they just put it out to the port. Yeah,
oh yeah, that's what that is.

Speaker 2 (02:14:48):
It had to be you know, definitely some weird.

Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
Stuff that that's odd, okay, but h but yeah, anything
that we are shown like, they just come down. I mean,
they've already shown us that in movies. They didn't just
come out up with that out of nowhere. It's not
like they did that concept and then they're like, oh
that sounds like a good idea, let's make it now.
You know, Yeah, they've already had it. It's just like

(02:15:14):
with every every movie that's wow. So there's only one
report that you know of of this metallic cyborg almost
looking were a wolf dogmen. You've never heard of this again,
it's just that one report, just that one report here

(02:15:35):
in Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
Man, I think we're onto something. I think I'm I
think I'm onto something, Okay, And uh, thank you for
sharing that I need to do a whole show just
on cyborg cryptids.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
Well, and I mentioned that because of the simple fact
that it's it's not too far fetched to think that
they might, you know, because I mean, if you look
at if you look at the whole transhumanism concept, you know,
in theory, that whole theory is the conjunction of human

(02:16:13):
and uh robot AI. You know, conglomeration is what that
is in a sense, is part of it. There's other
parts to it as well. But who's to say that

(02:16:35):
they wouldn't, you know, maybe try some of that stuff
out on encrypt it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:44):
Well, of course everything is weaponized everything, And I couldn't
imagine not them, them, they whoever, the controllers, the people
that are doing all this stuff. Why wouldn't they make
a cyborg werewolf? I mean, we're we are just I'm
saying we is, and like I'm I'm speaking for myself,
I'm just finally wrapping my head around like were wolves

(02:17:07):
being used by our military. Okay, I've been talking about
it for years now. Okay, I've had a ever since
I've had a show, at least what was that three
or four years now? And uh and so I've come
to terms with the fact that I think that our
military does use dogmen and wear wolves, okay, but now
we're like, all right, they're cyborging these animals okay, and

(02:17:29):
these creatures, and there's probably robots and like, like Daryl
was saying, you know, human DNA is malleable, malleable with
any kind of animals. So there's all these animal human
hybrids out there. But we are in the what is it, like,
the transhumanist movement at this point too, and uh, everything's
going robotic at this point. I had Robert Coley on

(02:17:50):
the show on Monday. He's a robotics engineer, right, and uh,
he's like pro robot. I'm not so pro robot, Okay.
I did not have that debate with though I did not, okay,
but I'm definitely because I wanted to hear. I want
to hear about the robotics side the trans transhumanists, I
guess that is what I call it, but I don't
want to hear about that side of things. But but yeah,

(02:18:13):
robots are a very real thing. We need to talk
about it, okay, so that we can understand it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:18):
Right, Well, the thing about it that's that's very disturbing.
Is I'm seeing more and more reports of you know,
and you get this with Chad GPT, Open AI, all
these other different organizations that are building these ais. You know,
when they go in and they try to shut them down,

(02:18:39):
these ais are actually you know, doing things that are
they're trying to self replicate to prevent the shutdown. So
you know, I mean your worst fear is is actually
coming to fruition in these ais just existing and I

(02:19:00):
think that, you know, I mean, you know, the the
whole concept of you know, why these things were created
in the first place, was you know, centered around the
improvement of life. But the reality is the opposite. It's

(02:19:25):
the only life improvement that would make that would be
made would be for the AI itself in in the
long run. Because you know, you've we've heard these reports
of as saying, oh, well, humans are a problem and
you know, they need to be exterminated and things like that.

(02:19:47):
You know, whether those are actually really taking place, I
don't know. I haven't actually heard an AI say that,
but I do know. I do know that there are
instances where AIS are being deceptive and manipulating people. And
you know, I encourage everyone to proceed with caution when

(02:20:11):
they interact with an AI, just for the simple fact
that you know there there there may be that instance
where it may give you information that's not really what
you're looking for, and it may be actually to manipulate,

(02:20:32):
manipulate you instead of help you. Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
Oh, I know, I just I just saw somewhere where
they're like, I was worned not to ever. I've never
used chat GPT or chat whatever it's called. I always
say chat GPT V I say it wrong. Okay, I
haven't used it. I do like to use AI for
my thumbnails, for my artwork and stuff. They gave me
a pretty durn good dog man for this thumbnail tonight. Okay, whoever,

(02:21:01):
whoever they are, the AI gremlins, Okay, uh, they conjured
up something good for me on this one. Okay, for
this show. But I was warned to not use chat
GPT because they say, according to studies, I don't know,
don't quote me on this, but they from what I
was reading that it actually, I hate to say this

(02:21:24):
like makes you dune or something like. It kind of
brings your it, It makes it where you don't have
to think. Maybe that's what it is. Everything is done
for you and so you have you don't have to
have that critical thinking right and stuff. It's just you
can write books all that stuff. I think I've there's
probably people writing books with chat GPT. I don't know.

(02:21:47):
Somebody told me one They're like, you could just use
chat GPT to write a book, and I was like, no,
I went to college with an English degree for a reason. Okay,
I got a degree for something. When it comes to
my English degree, I've got to put it use. I'm
not cheating, okay, and using chat GPT. I don't even
know how that works, honestly, but people do it. Apparently,

(02:22:11):
there are people people who did it, y'all. I'm not
I'm not throwing shade, I said. I don't even know
how it works.

Speaker 2 (02:22:19):
Might even be some crypted shows out there generating often
a uh I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:22:25):
And I's kind of taken over though, it really is,
it really is. And there we go back to circling
around to my question of what does it mean to
be human? Okay, and and this is just part of
the transhumanist movement for entertainment purposes only in my opinion, Yeah,

(02:22:45):
I feel you, man, I feel you. This has been
a pretty excellent conversation tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:22:50):
Oh yeah, most definitely. And I could, I could, I
could expand more on that subject, but I don't want
to get you kicked off of YouTube.

Speaker 1 (02:22:58):
Oh my gosh, I'm hanging on by a thread every
time I bring you on, Mark, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (02:23:05):
Well, this would really put you on the radar.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
Mu Okay, let's not then, so I go there. It's
too funny, man, Yeah, it's it's we live in a
very wild world right now. And uh, and so if
we can just stay human, how about that. Let's work
on staying human, okay, all of us. Uh, if you're

(02:23:30):
a human, not everybody's maybe a human right now? That's
listening to our show. I don't know. Uh, you know,
stay whatever you are, be the best version of that. Okay,
just be the best version. And let's all work too.
I'm I'm team human. I'm personally I believe I'm still
a human. I better be, Okay, I have not. I'm

(02:23:52):
not a robot Grandma, Okay, I see robot Grandma's been
coming up in this chattel lot tonight. By the way,
Oh yeah, out to robot Grandma, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:24:00):
And and interestingly enough, you know, if you look back
in uh uh, in in the biblical times, you had
Saint Christopher, who was originally all original paintings. Early paintings
of him depict him as a dog headed man, and

(02:24:22):
he was related to be as such in the historical
documentations that he was he was actually you know, So,
I guess the whole reason why I bring that up
is to say that you know it, irregardless of what
you may be, you know, there is always hope for

(02:24:46):
you to be the better version or a better version
of yourself.

Speaker 1 (02:24:55):
Yes, we always strive to be a better version of ourselves.
That's what I do. I try to be. I have
been many versions of myself too. I'm looking back throughout
the years. I'm like, man, I have really evolved in
different ways throughout my life. And and this is my
favorite evolution right now. Who whatever I'm doing, Okay, I

(02:25:16):
like this, Jessica right now. So and uh and I
hope everybody else feels the same about where you're at
right now. You know. Let's uh, yeah, I'm having fun.
I'm having a lot of fun talking about this weird
stuff with you, Mark and uh and thinking about uh
the do you do those?

Speaker 2 (02:25:35):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:25:35):
Whoever saw that. I'm going to go back to that cyborg.
I'm sorry, I got to ask another question about that.
Did he think that that was a dog man or
a werewolve? Did he say, I mean, did he make
any does he make it? Is there any difference? Does
it even matter?

Speaker 2 (02:25:50):
I guess, well, when when he related that incident, you know,
it was described as a dog man because because you know,
you think and in my thinking of it, I would
think that a were wolf would would be like a

(02:26:12):
wolf man. That's what I would think. I don't know
that there's there's a a physical difference other than you know,
when I when I envisioned a dog man, I'm thinking
like Van Helsing, you know, dog type legs and looking

(02:26:37):
like something off of Van Helsing. And then where wolf,
I would think like human humanoid type body with you know,
wolf like head.

Speaker 1 (02:26:55):
So I've got I've got a couple of these are
my a I pictures from a day here. Actually this
is my AI picture that I really liked, and I
think it was unreal real estate agent in the chat.
I think that was who said this said that's this
is similar to what they saw as far, and I
think this is a good representation of what dog man

(02:27:16):
looks like according to some I don't know these videos
i've seen are real, but this is what is depicted
in a lot of the videos that I've seen of
dog men. It looked a lot like that. Yeah, that
was a good one.

Speaker 2 (02:27:28):
Well, the one that I saw it was like that.
Imagine that, but like the size of a pular bear,
I mean huge and fast, like big.

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
This is actually a good one too, Mark, And I
think because everybody describes them as having like that tuft
of hair on their back like that. Main I think
that was a pretty good one too. This one, I'm
assuming he has a tell. I don't know. I don't
know what that is down there, But anyways, I don't know.
Do most dog men have tails? I mean, do you
remember seeing one on any of the ones that you've seen?

Speaker 2 (02:28:01):
You know, I can't say that I remember.

Speaker 1 (02:28:06):
Yeah, it's always an interesting question.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
I don't know. I was just too I was too focused,
sought out. I was like, many, that thing's huge and
it's fast.

Speaker 1 (02:28:23):
And I was yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:28:26):
And then the other one, you know, I had other
you know, factors going on with it. It's disappearing and.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
Yeah, Scott says, who gets close enough to look. Well,
some of us go running towards them sometimes. Okay, so
we're all looking. Oh, Cryptid five five nine. We've got
Hobveyer in the chap By the way, Hoveyer will be
our guest next Saturday night. Okay, Hobbyer is coming on
with Cryptid five five nine over in Fresno, California. In

(02:28:57):
that area, he said, the one I saw had no
tell hotel. A lot the ones, the ones you've seen,
have short jorts onto. I think I mentioned that the
other day. Jorts, jean shorts or something. I don't know.
Maybe they weren't jorts. Somebody, somebody I've talked to, you
saw a dog man with jorts on Jeane shorts ripped. Okay,

(02:29:17):
I wear jorts too, Okay, yeah, yeah, that I would
think that would be like a werewolf. You know, you
think that. But who knows anymore?

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:29:33):
Now we've got cyborgs. It's just something else I have
to worry about now. Uh, A cyborg metallic armored up
dog man.

Speaker 2 (02:29:43):
Great.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
I wonder if you know some people have talked about
dogmen coming out of UFOs and stuff too.

Speaker 2 (02:29:48):
Yeah, I've heard that, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
Well, they need to add. They need to add a
cyborg dog man to this chart. I'm just saying, what
do you think I'm gonna put I'm in a petition
for a cyborg dogman on the chart. There's one more
space out there at the top. Let's add a cyborg
to this. Okay, let's do it. There is a K
nine variant cyborg that needs to be added. I will
be contacting somebody about that one day. I don't know,

(02:30:17):
I'll talk to Kenny. Okay, that is too funny.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:30:23):
Well, this has been a fantastic show. I know it's
getting kind of late. It is a Saturday night, and yeah,
I actually got back on a good sleep schedule, so
now I'm up late. This is like I'm actually up
kind of late tonight. I got used to going to
bed early now and this for the past week. But
this has been so fantastic. What a wonderful show. I

(02:30:44):
know we talk on some we talk about some very
sensitive subjects, especially when we were talking about the you know,
desks at the Land between the Lakes and our national parks.
But we we get through it, and it's really important.
I think the conversations that we have about this with
cryptos Mark, So I really do appreciate you being here tonight.

Speaker 2 (02:31:02):
You're welcome. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (02:31:04):
Of course, I think we always ruffle feathers too, and
I apologize people got offended, especially in the beginning. I
saw some comments. People are a little upset. We never
mentioned anybody's YouTube channel, by the way, so we weren't.
We were not calling up people's YouTube channels out especially
by name. Okay, in general, in.

Speaker 2 (02:31:23):
General, if you want me to, I can hook you up.

Speaker 1 (02:31:27):
You can, I know you can. Listen. I don't have
any any in particular. We're just talking about in general.

Speaker 2 (02:31:32):
Okay, I will say anything about anybody that I won't
say to their face.

Speaker 1 (02:31:37):
Me too, exactly. But but out of respect, okay, we
are we don't bring people's names up there. Yeah, I
mean it's okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:31:46):
I mean, you know it's not it's not meant to
it's not meant to defame anybody. It's meant to encourage
change within individuals, you know, to maybe be the better
version of themselves, or be a better version of themselves,

(02:32:07):
but may maybe self reflect and go on a different
path maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:32:13):
But but also you got to look at it this
way too, Mark, YouTube is for entertainment, and I always
say for entertainment purposes on my show, and so it's
for entertainment. So there's no shade for anybody. Everybody's got
their own, their own angle on things, Okay. And that's
the way I look that's my opinion, that's the way
I look at it. Okay, we don't have our own angles.

Speaker 2 (02:32:33):
Like I say, roll old with your bad self.

Speaker 1 (02:32:37):
No, don't roll up on you. Okay, don't roll up
on Mark. Okay, that is so true. Yeah, everybody, everybody's
got their own angle when it comes to this stuff,
and so we respect them all, okay. And uh and
so I very much respect you, Mark, because I know
you you are a truth teller and you tell it

(02:32:58):
like it is.

Speaker 2 (02:32:59):
I don't know any other way to be. And uh
uh you know, I hate to say this, but there
are actually people out there that don't like that or
don't like me because of that. And that's fine. I
realize I'm not for everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:33:15):
Yeah, oh it's okay. Well I like you. I think
you're pretty cool. I think your audience likes you. Okay,
I'm just kidding. You're you're awesome. Listen, how how can
people do not like you? People don't like me either too,
so uh it Actually it's actually I kind of embracing
my villain era. Okay, I'm embracing it. I think it's

(02:33:35):
kind of fun. It's actually more fun to be in
your villain era than it is being your good girl
or good dude era. I'm just saying I've been to
both and uh so right, Yeah, it's for entertainment purposes only, y'all.
And uh yes, if you guys want to be become
a member of my Hunt Club if you're not already,

(02:33:56):
I did a whole video and I titled it step
into Your villain Era, Okay, and uh and I did
a little little exclusive video for my Hunt Club members
over there, so you guys can join my YouTube channel
and watch videos like that where I just go over
there and start talking about our everyday lives and uh,
villain era was part of that. So anyway, speaking of

(02:34:17):
YouTube channels, Mark, where can people find you? You've got
You've got a great YouTube channel in a website. If
you'd like to tell the audience about it, sure.

Speaker 2 (02:34:26):
My website is cryptoville dot com and Cryptoville I can't
remember what it is. Uh, I got a YouTube channel.
I'm sure if you plug it in there, it'll come up,
uh as Cryptoville in the search. I've got a few
videos on there, not a whole bunch, because I'm not

(02:34:48):
about you know, I'm more about quality instead of quantity.
And uh you know some some very interesting things that
I discussed in some of the videos on there.

Speaker 1 (02:35:07):
Oh yeah, and uh, well, I enjoy it. Y'all go
over there and subscribe. Okay, and thank you for including
me and some of my videos on your website as well.
I'm very honored that you have included me and put
a couple of shows up there.

Speaker 2 (02:35:22):
Thank Yeah, I need to I need to get some
because some of the some of the shows that you've
done that are like live shows, they don't my website
doesn't like the link formatting. So unless you unless you
actually converted into a video. Yeah, it's harder for me

(02:35:46):
to put a particular video.

Speaker 1 (02:35:48):
All you got to do is ask I'll send you
a file and you can put it on there. If
you ever have any shows, like shows that you and
I do together, especially, I'll send you the file over Okay,
I should do that for you. Anyways, Okay, start doing that?

Speaker 2 (02:36:02):
Well, I don't want to, I don't. I know you're
you're busy with life.

Speaker 1 (02:36:06):
And you know I'm never too busy for you. Okay,
I will do that anytime. I'm always all good. We'll
talk about after show. How about that?

Speaker 2 (02:36:15):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (02:36:15):
Okay? Oh my gosh, oh Mark, do you have any
final thoughts tonight on the strange and mysterious death State
National Parks? Any word of advice for our audience that's
going to be going out into our national parks or
doing field research or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
I think probably if I had some closing advice, it
would be, you know, try to be as prepared as
you can for you know, not just you know, the
likelihood that you're going to be harmed by ENCRYPTID is
extremely low. You're more apt to have an interaction with
a wild animal or a wild person or a not

(02:36:58):
good person. So you definitely want to try to be prepared,
prepared for an interaction like that, and you know, just
you can't prepare for everything, but you know, if you
if you don't try, then you don't know, you know,

(02:37:20):
try to be as safe as you can. You know, numbers,
numbers provide more safety in in environments like that. Uh So,
the more people that are with you, the better off
you're going to be. I've been seeing here lately a
lot of instances where, because there's been a lot of

(02:37:40):
storm damage in the l BO, a lot of instances
where vehicles are getting stuck and and motors stranded over
there due to just how you know, torn up the
terrain is. So you want to definitely try to have
some way to communicate and or some way to get

(02:38:03):
yourself unstuck if you get stuck, you know, just general
things like that to consider.

Speaker 1 (02:38:13):
I was, I know how that feels.

Speaker 2 (02:38:16):
It's not fun, is it. Man?

Speaker 1 (02:38:17):
Well, I got stuck and I had a friend, or
I didn't have a friend, some stranger had a wench
and was able to get us out. So, yeah, I
got stuck somewhere one time. I have better tires on
my truck now, so but yeah, it's a bad feeling
when you're out in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (02:38:36):
Oh yeah, and you're stuck. Yeah, And just try to
be try to be prepared for things of that nature,
and be careful about human interactions because not everybody is
your friend. That doesn't mean be ugly to people just

(02:38:58):
be leery of people head on. And that's uh, that's
pretty much my closing thought.

Speaker 1 (02:39:08):
Those are good thoughts. Thank you. Absolutely. I can appreciate
all of that, and it's all very good advice, especially
since I do spend a lot of time out in
the woods and and I can come back all that up.
So man, we'll be safe out there, Mark Okay, Uh, definitely,
and always keep your head on a swivel. And I

(02:39:29):
tell the audience listen, never we don't live in fear,
y'all know fear, just awareness, okay, and uh. And so
I want to thank everybody for being here tonight, and
thank you for all the superstickers tonight. Let's see NKD,
Skip and Amy and Firewater, Walter, Dennette and Kent. Thank

(02:39:50):
you guys so much for the support. And thank you
to all my moderators tonight. Thank y'all so much for
all your support. Uh and for the links and just
being amazing. Thank y'all so m much. And I will
be back on Monday. You guys, come see me Monday
at one.

Speaker 2 (02:40:07):
Gosh.

Speaker 1 (02:40:07):
I want to say James Rink's coming on the show,
but he may be the next Monday.

Speaker 2 (02:40:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:40:11):
I gotta check my calendar. I will be here live
though on Monday and tomorrow. Tomorrow night, y'all come see
me with Chierro Sounds and mid and West Night Watchers GARYL,
GARYL and Jane. I will be on their show. We're
gonna be talking about Blimmy's tomorrow night, seven Eastern. I
believe over on Midwest Night Watchers, I will be their
guests tomorrow. Okay, so y'all come see me over there.

(02:40:33):
And and I love you too, Kirie and thank you
all right, Well y'all go sub over at Cryptoville on
YouTube and Mark thanks again for being here. You are
the best. I do appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (02:40:44):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:40:46):
Awesome. All right, everybody, y'all have a great night and
we'll see you guys back here on Monday. All right, bye, y'all.

(02:41:30):
It's excess

Speaker 2 (02:41:41):
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