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August 13, 2025 134 mins
On this episode, Jessica goes “On the Hunt” with Bigfoot researcher Bigfoot Dwarf to discuss his recent two-week trip to the Bluff Creek area in northern California on his search for the Sasquatch people and the high strangeness that ensued on his late-night adventures. Bluff Creek is known for the 1967 Patterson-Gimlin film, showing the world the best photographic evidence of a Bigfoot, arguably to this very day.

Brown Dwarf was born in Hollywood, California and resides in Humboldt County, California as well as Southern Oregon. He has always been fascinated with the mysteries of life. As a youth he began having UFO sightings, which continue to this day. Living in Bigfoot country has expanded his reality to the phenomenon of the Sasquatch people. Having had several sightings and many experiences with these beings, he began documenting his journey.

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Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, good evening, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's the Crypted Huntress. Welcome into on the Hunt tonight. Man,
do we have a fantastic show lined up tonight. We
have Bigfoot Dwarf here in the studio tonight. And and
I know you guys are excited about that.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Bigfoot Dwarf went on a two week plus trip to
Bluff Creek.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
And I knew that I had to get him on
the show. And I've been waiting to just pull him
over here and uh and to come on to talk
about his trip out there for you you guys who
aren't familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
With Bluff Creek.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
That is where they filmed the infamous Patterson Gimlin film
with Patty Okay, the most famous Bigfoot in all the world.
And and Bigfoot Dwarf got to spend an extended period
out there, ruffing it, ruffing it for two weeks out
at that location. So we're gonna hear so much tonight.

(01:58):
And it's not just the bigfoot Sasquatch side of it.
He had a lot of high strings that go on.
We actually have videos to show you guys tonight and
some pictures and all sorts of good stuff. So y'all
get ready and buckle up. We have a lot to
discuss tonight and it's going to be so fun. Y'all
know every time Bigfoot Dwarf comes on, we have a
really good time. So go get your popcorn, go get

(02:22):
whatever you got to eat and drink tonight, and come
back and see me. In about one minute, I'm going
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see an archive of all of my shows. If you
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my social media links are there on my website as well,

(02:43):
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Speaker 1 (02:44):
Check that out.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
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(03:07):
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I stand behind that one percent. And I also wanted
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another candle. She's sent in a donational while back for
the Candle Fund, and she sent me this candle. So, Haley,

(03:29):
thank you so much. The candles behind me, I'm pointing
to it. Thank you so much, Hailey for your support
and for the beautiful candle. It says Appalachian Trail on it, y'all,
and it smells so good. My room smells really good
right now, and it does. It doesn't smell squatchy because
that would smell weird. Okay, it smells like the Appalation
trail and it smells so great. So thank you again, Hailey.

(03:51):
I do appreciate it very much. And yeah, I love
you guys. I got the best audience. Okay, Well, let's
go ahead and get to our show tonight. Okay, because
we have a lot to talk about. I have run
out of ink, so I have no hard copies tonight.
I'm gonna be looking right off my laptop this evening,
and so here we go. And if I didn't tell

(04:12):
y all, YO would have never even known about that.
Probably okay, but okay, so we are going on the
hunt tonight with our good friend Bigfoot Dwarf, who, by
the way, you guys can find Bigfoot Dwarf on his
YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's called Bigfoot Dwarf.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Okay, We're going to discuss his two week trip to
the Bluff Creek area in northern California on his search
for the Sasquatch people and the high strangeness that ensued
on his late night adventures. Bluff Creek is known for
the nineteen sixty seven Patterson Gimlin film showing the world
the best photographic evidence of a Bigfoot, arguably to this day.

(04:52):
Brown Dwarf was born in Hollywood, California, and resides in
Humboldt County, California, as well as southern Oregon. He's always
been f fascinated with the mysteries of life, and as
a youth, he began having UFO sightings which continue to
this day. Living in Bigfoot Country has expanded his reality
to the phenomenon of the Sasquatch people. Having had several

(05:15):
sightings and many experiences with these beings, he began documenting
his journey and you guys, like I said, you can
find it him over on his YouTube channel. Bigfoot Dwarf,
please help me. Welcome to the show, my good buddy
b D himself.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Jessica, Hello to everyone in chat and out there and
YouTube land and all the other platforms they may be
listening to us to. Super excited to be back. Thank
you for the invites, of course.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Of course, I was so excited to know you got
back from your trip. And I keep up, I keep.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Up with you. I know it's been a pout a
month or so. Sis you came on. We talked about
that alien TV interruptions.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah that was the truth.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I couldn't believe that show took off too. We
got a bunch of views on that.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I noticed that. I wish, you know, it was, you know,
something different.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
You know, my my main thing is Bigfoot, but you
always take me outside of that, that realm there with
other topics. Jessica and I thank you for that. And
and yeah, we you know, we we stand up to
the plate. We do the best we can. And it's
super cool to hear that you got good feedback on
that show as well, and hopefully we do the same
with this one.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I love the ear rings, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
My father gave me these earrings a while back about
a year ago. And and so I had to wear
my big foot I've got bigfoot dwarf on my shoulder tonight,
I'm talking about wear my bigfoot earrings.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Those are for you, okay, for the occasion, all right.
And they're sparklely a little bling too, blinky bigfoots.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
I love that. I think big foods like shiny things,
so they do.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I think they do too. And I think you know
better than anybody, just as good as anybody, for sure.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
So yeah, I think I think I know, we think
we know.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I think we know. We really actually we don't.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
We don't know nothing about nothing.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, and it you know, it was a reminder, you know,
with this trip. You know, currently I've been still here
in southern California. You know a lot of you know,
I'm in Los Angeles. I call it Los Angeles. It's
been as crazy as ever. Uh and it was good
to get away for a while.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
For those that don't know, I actually used to live,
like the bile said, had lived up in northern California,
Humboldt County and got to uh visit a lot of
the neighboring counties in the area, and and you know,
they call it Bigfoot country up there for a reason,
and I got to learn all that while living up there,
and uh it just really uh got me into the topic,

(07:55):
you know it it did. You can't be up there
and I you know, notice Bigfoot. You know there's gonna
be something Bigfoot related up there that you'll run into,
believe me. And also being in southern California for several
years now, you know, we've got a shop, skate shop,
slash smoke shop and more, and so we've been you know,

(08:18):
building that, and we got the Asylum, which is another
place next to the smoke shop, and they're having events
there even tonight. There's a music event there. I think
they're having some sort of hardhouse music. There's been different stuff,
punk shows. Actually, they're having a punk show here tonight
across the railroad track, so we might hear some some

(08:39):
kids screaming at the top of their lungs, you know.
And it seems like, yeah, a lot of young people
the punk scene. LA's always had a big punk scene,
music scene and everything, but yeah, the punk scene really
seems to be hitting.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Hard these days.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
And yeah, it's cool hopefully as long as they don't
wreck our place too bad.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, hey, I'm all about people having especially young people
and old people like okay, just everybody go out and
has fun.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I spent some time partying in l A years, Okay,
for a series of years. I used to come visit
quite often.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
And then I've done your thing out in the atl too.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Oh man, Well atl is a whole other, a whole
other beast.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Hopefully soon.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh yeah, well I'm not.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I'm not in the club scene in Atlanta anymore, that's
for sure. But I am in the bigfoot scene. I
can show you all the bigfoots are.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
That's super super cool.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
And you know, Georgia, Georgia keeps coming up on my radar,
you know, for bigfoot activity and high strangeness, and I
know you're definitely one of the people to tap into
for that. But I've heard some recent bigfoot reports out
of Georgia. I didn't relay those to you, but I
think you know. I've been working on doing my little
live streams and stuff, so I've been reading off reports

(09:52):
off of bf ro O and another good source for
people to check out is the Bigfoot Mapping project. You
could dot com and you could check out some reports
that are submitted there. Uh, some of them are recent
and and some of them are throwbacks, and some of
them are are you know.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Bogus reports too.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
We've read some of those off without proofreading them, and
some of them are hilarious, like you'll get a bigfoot
towerk in out of Florida. Hey, yeah, of course, right,
I had to be Florida, so you know, but you
could obviously tell some of those reports are not you know, legit,
but you know you kind of uh kind of feel

(10:34):
them out. And and you know, there's some reports that
really I don't know, resonate with me and and I
love getting into those and it's interesting to see where
those reports are coming from.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
And yeah, recently, right before the trip.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
There was one report out of southern Humboldt County and
uh and that got me excited as like, oh, there's
a report, uh pretty close to home. Actually, So I
lived in southern Humble but also lived in different parts
throughout the county, even in the northern part of the county.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
And we'll get into that a little bit. And we
have before. I've talked about my sightings and stuff like
that up that way.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
And yeah, so I was like, well, we're gonna be
heading up that way, let's, uh, why not make a stop.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's along the way. It's actually off of Highway one
on one, which gets a lot of reports. There's a
lot of road cross sidings, of course, and maybe Bigfoot's
getting off the hill and headed over to the beach
or something, who knows, but or headed back into the
redwoods from the beach. Yeah, it's a trip.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And so this area where this report was, there's a
well known gift shop and some of you might know it.
It's called the Legend of Bigfoot, Okay, and it's one
of the rattest gift shops in the county. There they
have a bunch of redwood carvings, all types of stuff
like little and a bunch.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Of gnomes and you name it, types of ferry thing.
It looks like a little ferry land there.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
That sounds like my kind of a shop.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Oh yeah, yeah, you love it.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
And and what's a trip is that There's been several
reports I've gotten first hand and second hand reports from
legitimate sources of sightings right along that right around that
area around the gift shop. And I've also touched on
and some of these reports you can see on online
over a BFRO and you can find stuff online. And

(12:27):
what I found interesting too at the time when I
was living there, there was two little girls had gone
missing from the area and yeah, for a couple of days.
And I remember when all that was going on, because
you know, we we that's one of our topics that
we're into, of course, right, missing people, yeah, clusters all that,
oh yeah, yeah, And you know Politis has done a

(12:47):
research up in that area. We talked about that last time.
Spent some time up in the Humble and around those areas.
You know, he wrote what is it a the hoop
of project. There's the other one tribe Bigfoot, and so
he's very familiar with these areas and you'll hear him
touch on on on some of those spots too every

(13:09):
once in a while.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
So those little girls.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Went missing, went missing for a couple of days, and
eventually we're found and luckily found and very much near that,
uh that gift shop, which I thought was pretty interesting.
And they said what they were snacking on was water.
That was or they were consuming water from I guess
leaves that were because it was drizzling, and which is interesting.

(13:35):
You know, we keep a weather when stuff happens like that.
But then they mentioned that berries kept them like, you know,
they were snacking on berries.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
We're always telling people don't go pick the berries.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Missing right, Yeah, well go pick the berries, but just
be be careful and don't maybe not pick them all,
I think is the thing.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, so the barriers leave a fish for bigfoot. We're
gonna get into the berriers. That's something I definitely focused
on while I was up there. Uh And so, yeah,
that was a pretty crippy situation there with the little
girls and and it was a happy ending they were found,
they were found safe and yes, and then right up

(14:25):
the road from there there you got the town of Garberville,
and up the hill from Garberville is where Murder Mountain is.
Up that way we talked about. I've been talking about
crime and stuff like that. If people don't know, there's
a Netflix documentary called Murder Mountain and it gets in
some situations that were happening up in that area. So

(14:46):
that's the area where we were living at. And yeah,
it's it's a trip, you know. I got some stories
for you on on some true crime from from the
county there it's it's you know, it's a thing. But
at the same time, it's it's it's paradise. I love
it up there. You know, it's just the I always say,
it's a matter of how you're living, what you're attracting
into your life and stuff like that. You know, there's

(15:08):
people living really good up there, we say, living off
the fat of the land. And yeah, it's just amazing,
an amazing place. And I think it's just like anywhere.
It's it's you know, we're in a world of polarities.
I talk about it a lot. There's the good, the bad,
and light dark, you know, and so you get the
dark stuff up there too, and there's been some well

(15:29):
known like uh Cereal and the Livers, yeah up that
way and then yeah, that have made some recent documentaries.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
We have to Did we talk about it last time?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
We touched on it a little bit. Yeah, we've talked.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
About it before. You know, there's some of that history
there too.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
And so anyway, going back to yeah, Southern Humble that
we were living up that way, up on the hill
and living the country life, and you know, uh, that's
when I started. I was already into foot but previously
I was on a on a different hill in the
town of the area of known as honeydew And and

(16:10):
that's when I first started inquiring about Bigfoot and learning
from like locals and stuff. And that's when I learned
about Patterson film being shot like not too far from
there and a lot of people. You know, at first
I thought it was I thought it was in Humboldt County,
but it's technically there's several counties right where the film
was taken.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
And I think Patty was.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Filmed in del North Delmark County technically, and then you
got Siske County there Humboldt. So it just depends where
you're camping and where you're at, what road or what
hill you're on, you might be in a different county there,
but they all kind of meshed there. And you know,
most people, I say, Humboldt County takes the cake for
the Patty film, but whatever, you know, we love our

(16:51):
overs like.

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Trinity, Sisku and Delmark County. It's all love. But yeah, anyway,
so the southern part of Humble, you know, when I
started getting into this stuff, there's a right on Highway
one to one.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
You know, when you get into the County. You're basically
going through the Redwoods there, and there's state parks there.
There's Avenue of the Giants, so it's it's just a
detour through the redwoods. So you're off the highway, but
you're going along the highway and you could stop at
these state parks.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
There's a bunch of state parks there and you can
check out all the big rate. You could go give
the redwoods a hug, which I mean, but.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
They're they're so big, right, Yeah, And you said, you
said that is it the Force of the Giants? You
mean the Giant Giants Avenue?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Okay, Avenue of the Giants.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
So yeah, that's a trippy name to give, and of
course it's it's referring to the trees. But then you know,
it makes me think what other giants, the big.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Hairy giants too, exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
And yeah, there's there's a history reports through the Avenue
of the Giants there southern Humble, But for the most part,
a lot of the reports that you'll see online seem
to focus on the northern part of the county along
the coast and then inland from there, which will take
you to the areas like the Hooper Hooper Reservation. And

(18:14):
there's several other Native American tribes in that area too.
You got the the Urraq tribe and the Karouk, and
I believe a few other smaller tribes also that we're
also in that area could still be and uh and
it's super fascinating to learn about them as well. You know,
like we don't go up there, uh thinking we're like, oh, yeah,

(18:35):
we're hunting bigfoot. We're gonna trap it and bring it
back down the hill or something like that. You know,
it's nothing like that at all. We just I personally
want to just be able to have another sighting if possible,
and possibly capture you know, some stuff like.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Roger and Bob did. It'd be amazing to do that,
you know.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, some of the technology we have now, you know,
we were using thermals and got night and stuff, and
thermal is the way to go. I think night vision
is pretty cool unless you have some really uh military
military grade stuff, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Which is way expensive. Oh yeah, pretty much have most
most normal people's price range.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh yeah, you know all this we're coming out of
pocket with this stuff. And then you know, I've slowly
been making upgrades with gear and stuff. So I got
a new thermal and and a couple of new units
that I got to test out in the field too,
So yeah, I was excited about that. That's always fun,
you know, playing with the gadgets and all that and
just getting familiar and better with with all that because

(19:35):
you know, I'm by no means a professional and totally
amateur and yeah, you know that's how we do it.
Uh but yeah, again it's fun. And you know, I'm
still using game cams. I love setting game cams up
at the moment. Now I only have one. Used to
have a bunch of those and uh yeah, just putting
all the gear to test. I even have a little

(19:56):
parabolic mic and stuff and it's funny looking and everything,
but it's it's it's cool to use, and yeah, you
just see what happens, you know, and hopefully you capture something.
And that's that's the that was our intent going up there,
and that's the idea. And so yeah, going back to
the report, So there's a report in that area right
around that area was telling you about the gift store

(20:16):
and everything. I'm like, oh, here we go again, another
report in that area, and yeah, it was alongside the
road and the guy claimed for it for it to
be like a huge I guess he.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Said it was twelve footer, is what he said. And
you know, yeah, which sounds pretty exaggerated, right, but you know,
things things grow big and humble. You know the trees. Uh,
I was.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Gonna say, if you guys got those redwoods down there,
And it seems like the Pacific Northwest and northern California,
like the bigfoots are bigger out there that they are
down here in the South. Okay, we've got like the
six seven footers down here. Okay, the skunk apes and stuff,
and I mean we have like nine ten footers as well,
but it's more common to have something that's not as
big you guys have where you live.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, well, I think it's something about Humboldt County and
not only those redwood trees, but those other trees wink
wink seem to grow big and well there.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
The yeah that devils, let us dang it. But yeah,
you know, it's it's a thing up there, and yeah,
the culture is still there. Do we have a Bigfoot
dispensary in Willow Creek, Make sure you stop by and
see what Bigfoot has in store there. For you.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, Willow Creek has it all. They got the Bigfoot Hotel,
the Bigfoot Stay, hows the name, you name it.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
And they had Big Days also, Bigfoot Days, which is
a little festival and it's mainly a town festival, so
they have a little car show. They bring out the
old school cars and there's music, HoTT as heck, I
think that day reached over one hundred or something like that.
But the vendors come out and the Bluff Creek Project

(21:58):
actually sets up a little booth and are the local guys,
and they're the ones who've been pinpointing where Patty walked
and where everything was during that filming and stuff. And
you know, there's been uh yeah, quite a debate you
know with m K m K Davis.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
I see you in the chat brown dwarf, I mean
or Bigfoot Dwarf. I'm always gonna call you brown dwarf. Yeah,
the chat, that's what I just call you, bead now, okay,
but I see you. I see you in the chat.
Every time I bring that up. You're like, I don't
know if I agree with that theory, and uh, and
I don't. I mean, I'm I'm open to all sizes
of it, you know what I mean. I think it's interesting.

(22:33):
You know, I've done that remote viewing on it. I
think she was being shot at personally. But tell me,
tell me your thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, well, you know, of course bad wasn't there. I
wasn't there, so I still wasn't on the planet either.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
But it's interesting just how the story, like if you
really get into the story. And I still I'm still learning,
like every time every year I go up there, and
I've been going up for I think it's going on
like not eight nine years now to to to Bluff
Creek exactly. So you gotta you gotta remember that there's
big foots all around the county, not only at Bluff Creek,

(23:15):
but yeah, you know, just to that particular spot, and
even living in humbold County, it was it was it's
a trip. Even being in the county and getting to
the location, it's still a drive. You know, you gotta
get yourself ready. It's not just it's not an easy trip.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Tell me. Last year, I thought, okay, so I remember
you took another trip with some fellows and you guys
were going to be chomping through a river for a
good bit of your trip, right.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah, and that turned out so at the last minute,
thank goodness. So I did the drive and the guys
wanted to do that hike, so they wanted to hike
from the bottom of the Klamath River. So that's way
at the bottom of the of these hills with Klamath
flows and all these uh different creeks from all these
hills low down into the climate. Right and so uh,

(24:02):
I hate Hieronymous no relation to Bob Heronymous. And if
you know some of this Bluff Creek, Patterson and Giblin history, uh,
I'm not mistaken, you know. And like I said, I'm
still learning a lot of the history.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I hear a lot of stuff online, and then I
learn a lot from the guys when I go up there,
from the locals and other guys from a Bluff Creek project.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Know a whole lot, just like M. K. Davis knows
a whole lot, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
And and and there's other people like William Jeffning and
you can name. There's some names out there that put
out that that know a lot about about this history
and stuff. And that's why it gets all I think
kind of confusing, because people know this and you know,
maybe that person didn't know that. And there's always you know,
people people when there's a lot of people, there's problems

(24:48):
sometimes sometimes sometimes you got to get that out. But
but I like to listen to all that and and
I learn every time I go more and more. And
you know, some of my friends are better at at
you know, relaying some of this information and stuff. And
uh so, yeah, Bob Tate Horonymous is out of Florida,

(25:11):
used to be out here in the West Coast. But yeah,
he has the same last name as Bob Pranyamous, who
was supposedly the guy in the patty suit, you know.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, that is.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
A very unusual name.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Is no relation, no.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
No, not that Tate doesn't claim, but yeah, who knows.
But it's funny that he's into Bigfoot now, Tate and
you have these these you know.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Last name name that is really I have never heard
that last name before.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
And wow, and if I'm correct too, you know, uh,
Bob Pranamous still lives in Washington State where Bob Gimblin
still lives. And you know, their their neighbors and they
don't get along. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I think
you got the man you got, and I thought that

(26:01):
was pretty interesting. Man with a trip.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Uh So yeah, anyway, going back, so we're southern Humble,
So getting some reports, I made a little stop in
the area that I thought were the report was and
and just took a little footage there and check things
out briefly as I was heading up into Bluff Creek
and made my little pit stops along the redwoods. I
have so living there, I learned little areas where things

(26:29):
would happen. So I'm a structured dude. I know some
people are not into the structures and stuff and and
get it.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
It's weird. So when you get into big foot, people
will like gravitate maybe to a certain thing, like some
people like Cliff Barrackman seems to have a foot big
foot fetish especially. Yeah, they're in the foot, the foot thing,
you know, which is super cool. And then you'll have
someone else that will specialize maybe in like structures and

(26:57):
stuff and and that's their thing or maybe a I
think it's David Ellis that does audio, specialize in audio,
you know, So that's super cool, you know, And so
I think that's cool because then everyone could come together
and you know, kind of bring back some feedback and
sometimes that works out a lot of times it doesn't.
Uh but yeah, anyway, so where were we where.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
We Oh, well, I'm the host, I should know.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
We're making our way up the Redwood going.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Going up the Redwoods up to where your area is
and where.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yes, so I made yeah, I made a few stops
at some of my areas big foot.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
All the big Foot tourist places, okay, the big Foot
Steakhouse and big Foot restrooms and probably big Foot rest areas.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
No, but we have the big Foot Highway, which is
Highway ninety six, which will get you to Bluff from
Willow Creek or uh, you'll go through Happy Camp if
you're coming through Oregon. A Happy Camp and another great
spot for Bigfoot that I'd love to explore. I hear
a lot of stories, and you know, I'd like to
stop there when I go through. But uh, yeah, No,

(28:14):
Southern Humbold's got a new spot, Bigfoot Den, in the
town of Miranda, so make a stop there if you're
in the area. I've seen someone in the chat earlier
said they were out in the Redwoods, and I know
Digger Dog. I see him in the chat also was
actually probably went through the area on his way over
to oak Ridge, Oregon, and shout out to everyone out
there that went to the Glass Squatch summerfest in Oakridge, Oregon.

(28:36):
And I hear those festivals really good and sometimes they
get activity out there.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
So yeah, best of luck to everyone who went out there.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
But yeah, unfortunately I wish I could go to both,
but it coincided right with Like if I would have
done it, I would have had to spend one day
up in Oregon and then get down to Bluff Creek
and that would have been pushing it.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
But yeah, hopefully one of these years coming up anyway,
So yeah, made my way through. Uhhuh.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I want to know what it was.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I mean, I don't know if we ever even covered
I mean finished talking about this, but how you guys
were trotting through the river to get into where.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
You were A. Yeah, let's get back to that.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I don't think that we ever finished that thought.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, so yeah, the idea was audience, thank you, thank
you for getting back there.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
So okay, wait, don't don't lose that thought.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
I want to think, can't back you real quick for
that supersticker? He said.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
We do have the best chat around Welcome Dwarf. It's
great to see you on tonight. Thank you, Ken, I'm
so glad you're here. Thank you for that supersticker proceed.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, so we were the idea. This idea was to
hike from, which is crazy as heck because in uh
sixty seven, what was it, No? Sixty four?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
So even before like the Patterson film for some that
you know aren't too clear because I'm not too clear
on everything too, but uh, there was activity happening up
on on the hill already. So the thing is that
the way back when they first started building a road
up into into that hill up there, at one point

(30:03):
some of the construction workers and you might be familiar
with this, we're having some of their equipment and like
these barrels of oil that got tossed into a creek
and stuff, and there was a bunch of Bigfoot tracks,
big tracks around the work site. And so these guys
were bringing these stories back into town.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
And I guess that's.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know, eventually, it's when it made the paper, that
was when it came out Humble Times, and that's when
they coined the term bigfoot and all that.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
So there was stuff happening, and it could be so
you would imagine they're building these roads into these like
Virgin Hills.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
You know, Bigfoot's gonna be pissed. That's why they probably
threw all that stuff over. But yeah, that's what happening.
And sixty four, I believe, is when they had this
big old flood that came through Humboldt County and everything,
and yeah, they got flooded out there, and that's it
completely changed the river bar there. And then sixty seven

(31:03):
is when the Patterson footage was taken. And yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're hm, we're going somewhere.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Nineteen sixty seven, Okay, we're just given the history of
the of the area up there.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I actually have some pictures too. I was going to
show some pictures of Patty, okay, and I don't have
the There's Patterson and Gimblin right there, two fellas that
took the video, I believe. And uh, and that's Patty
right there. And uh and this is that suit you
were talking about, just like a suit, Well this is

(31:37):
this was they say, this is the best attempt so
far to recreate the nineteen sixty seven costume. Okay, it
would be that right there. So there's that, But this
is this is one of the This is the most
famous frame out of that movie that that they took
that film. That's where Patty looks back at the camera right.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
There too, I think it is.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, yeah, that's a that's all the stickers are based
off that on everybody's cars. Oh yeah, that's it and
half insure.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
And what's interesting if you look behind her, it looks
like a big o' X groundex with those two trees
back there.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Actually there could be some asterisks back there too, like
all the trees.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I mean, who knows, there's a lot. There could be
kids back there too, they say.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right, and and you know some of my buddies from
Bluff Creek Project will will you know probably and not
not have no comment on that, but you know, they
focus on the area and everything. So, yeah, wanted to
hike up from the climate up to Bluff Bluff Creek.
And the thing is that that creek got washed out,
so it's all gnarly at the bottom of the climate.

(32:46):
There's all these huge bowlers and everything, and and so
the guys went on the on the trip and I,
you know, opted out because I was tired from just
driving up. It was twelve hours from from La up there,
and I was just like beat the next day. I
wasn't ready for that. And so they tried and basically

(33:06):
it was no go. Yeah, things didn't work out. Things
got gnarly, they were waist deep in water, and you know,
they had a dog with them that wasn't in one
hundred percent condition as well, and there's all these factors
and it was just not possible, you know. And then
so that became a whole thing there. But luckily everyone
was safe and not hurt too bad. And yeah, so

(33:30):
we're gonna have to retry that some other way, and
we've been we've gotten some tips from people to where
to start from if we ever want to do something
like that, So it's possible maybe one day we'll do it,
but yeah, for now, Yeah, every year there's like, you know,
some sort of idea of what to do, and we
also like to go visit the site.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Every time we go.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
It's like, you know, I also mentioned that we don't
expect to see like a patty down there back at
the site again or anything like that, but the possibility
of running into something as high.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
There's a lot of wildlife there, a lot of.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Mountain lion of course the bears all types of stuff,
so it is active with wildlife and I we've talked
about the Humble Martin too. The Bluff Creek project has
gotten on game cam, so it's super cool because they
thought that was extinct. And there's actually been some people
up there doing surveys. I believe they're from the Iraq

(34:24):
tribe and they were doing surveys on the Martin activity.
So it's interesting to run into some of these people
and I wonder if that's what they're really doing. Maybe
they're doing surveys on something else. But yeah, so they
you know, they actually camped out in our area for
a couple of days and got to talk to them
a little bit and uh yeah, no no actual reports

(34:46):
from them, but I got something from someone else that
was really interesting and we'll get into that.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
So yeah. I made my few stops along the Redwood,
found a few structures, new structures in some of the
areas where I usually find structures and stuff like that,
and so that's always fun to revisit and it's kind
of easy, uh, to get to, so it's easy to
do along the way.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I didn't have to go too far out of my
way and It's always nice to revisit these areas that
I missed so much, and we well, we're going to
be back soon, especially living I mean technically we have family.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Up there still. And uh.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
And you know, I always have a home with somebody
and I always get the invite, you know, they're like, oh, yeah,
coming to my property.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I got a spot for you.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So you know, I don't turn invitations like that down
right a lot of times. Yeah, especially in areas that
are full of high strangers or you know, I had
I had a viewer of my shows. You know, I
have viewers that reach out and be like, well, you know,
my family owns property by where that sighting was and
if you ever want to come, bring your your crew,

(35:49):
And I'm like, don't, don't tell me that we'll be there.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
You might end up regretting it.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Right, So yeah, yeah, and we have gotten an invite.
There's one.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Time that that you know, and I'm not sure I'm
fully allowed to talk about this, but yeah, we've gotten
invites to play places and and and it's super cool.
It always works out and you know, for the most part,
and but anyway, so, yeah, we found some new stuff
along the way, so that's always super cool to see.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
The structure of phenomenon i'll call it is definitely something there,
you know. And we were mentioning Cliff earlier, who specializes
in feet and recently I heard him talk about that,
you know, they're not into structures, and you know, he
has his museum up in Oregon, which actually Tate Hieronymous
stopped at this trip up there and got to talk

(36:41):
to Cliff and everything. And the plan was for me
to hit Bluff Creek and then continue on to Oregon
to visit the museum with Tate, hit Mount Hood and
then head up to Washington and hit a bumping Lake,
which is a good spot I hear, and wasn't able
to do that for some reason.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
The creator said, no, you need to stay here.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
At Bluff Creek. So it just worked out like that.
And uh anyway, so finally made it up to Bluff Creek.
Like I said, the twelve hour plus I drive from here,
and uh so I pulled into camp and and Tates there,
so he drove out from Florida, was the first one
to get there, and he actually spent the solo.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Oh yeah, he drives.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I mean that that had been how many hours did
he drive?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I don't know, several days, Yeah, several days. And he's
got a new Jeep though, so which is good.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Still that's a long drive, yea.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
But even from California from LA it was you know,
long drive, a lot of gas and your boy bed
needed some new wheels, and I got blessed with him.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
It's how things work out. Yeah, it was like, oh
my goodness, Uh, you're part.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Of the you're part of the Toyota club. I drive
a Toyota as well.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Oh right on, are you at taco or no for it?
Oh right? Yeah, we had runners before, we got before runners.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yever, and I just got some new tires online this
past year to some alterrains and Yokohamas.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Or something I got.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
They cost more than my truck.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Probably you got to have those wheels that you're going.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yes you do.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
And yeah it was time for me. I really had
pushed the last set.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
But yeah, no, we got got that rolling and quite
a few new things, even some new hiking.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Boots that have got to break in and stuff. Is like,
oh man, thank goodness. And so yeah, finally made it
to Bluff Creek, so it was already there and he
had spent the night, and yeah, he's very much not
into what we call the highest strangeness of things, you know,
he's very much you know, flesh and blood and then

(38:51):
you know, weird things have had have happened to him before.
And one of the things he mentioned when I got
there was that he had had a case of a
sleep paralysis. And I'm sure he's going to be bringing
this up on his documentary.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
So a lot of the guys that people that we
meet up with their make their own documentaries and stuff
and will shut out maybe some of their channels here
in a bit, and I usually do when I jump
on and when I do my lives as well, and
when those docs come out, I'll I'll share them out
as well on my channel.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
So keep stay tuned, keep an eye out. And so yeah,
I thought that was very interesting.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
But he, you know, for him, the sleep paralysis is
very you know, for him, he explained it in a
very scientific way, which I get.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
You know, I've I've heard explanations of sleep paralysis before,
but I believe there's also, uh, I guess you could
say a spiritual thing going on there as well, and
it could be negative A lot of times I've had
sleep paralysis. I don't know if you've had it before,
but been kind of scary, and you know, you know

(40:00):
I've had.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, so that's what I've had my et encounters. Actually,
I had some sleep paralysis. And I wanted to point
out that we have Adolph Is in the chat as well,
and he was he is the subject of ten eleven
o two that that documentary out there the Sierra Mountains.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
You know Sierra Mountains.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
Oh yeah, is that northern California.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, well yeah, it's northern and and there's this southern
southern side of the Sierras and then it goes on
up to Mount Lassen and that, you know, that's the
beginning of the Cascades.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
So there's a Cascades meet the Sierras. I think that's
a good spot to check out there. But yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
He's in a good area there, and I want to
hit the Sierras a lot more. I have a couple
of times, you know, just Yosemite, Lake Tahoe and stuff
like that, but there's so much more to explore there.
You know, a lot of my friends have actually been
going to We talked about also the Sierra Hills site
I think we were talking about that last time. And
you know, small Town Monsters recently put out a doc

(41:05):
with the guy that supposedly unlive a baby Bigfoot and
and I think an adult one, you know, and that
was up in the Sierras. And so some of my friends,
like Jonathan Easley, who came out this year to Bluff
Creek and usually does from Western Bigfoot Explorations, has recently
gone to well, he's gone to the Sierra Kill site,

(41:26):
and several other of our friends. Actually Bart Cortino, well known,
actually got some thermal footage from there years back, and
and actually got to meet this year. Bart didn't come up,
but I've been out in the field with Bart before,
so to Bart, awesome dude. But someone else that was
there during that thermal footage I got to meet this

(41:49):
time around. They actually made it out to Bluff Creek
and it was super cool to meet them. And yeah,
I don't think this guy would be lying about anything.
So anyway, you look that stuff up. That thermal footage
wasn't the best because of the quality of the equipment
at the time, but yeah, there's definitely something going on
there and they did an awesome breakdown. But anyway, Uh,

(42:11):
Sierra's uh yeah, so blood we get there and so
he has this episode he mentioned the sleep paralysis and
I was like, oh my goodness, this is interesting. And
but for him he just kind of like, uh, not
shrugged it off, but just did I would have paid,
you know. I was like, whoa something to pay attention to?

(42:31):
And he he is, yeah, I think he's gonna mention it.
But I think you know, when that happens, there could
be entities around. There could be uh some sort of
spirits or something going on there, people.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Or oubist. You know, that's the.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Last thing that he wants to think, though.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I'm sure, especially if he's like in the Flesh and
Blood clamp camp, he's not wanting to think that he's
been abducted by aliens.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Trust me, I've been there.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Okay, that's the last thing I wanted to I didn't
even it wasn't in my frame of thought. The first
time I went big footing, yeah, I was having missing
time and we had you know UFOs, low flying UFOs
hovering over us while we were out there, you know,
in the woods, hiding from Bigfoot, hoping to get stepped
on one. And and that led into me being visited

(43:18):
by ET's in my bedroom at night.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I've heard you mentioned that and that that's far out.
That's like wow, But you know what, I have seen
orbs fly in your room there. We've we've seen some live.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Weirds in here.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, like during my I've had orbs like fly right
in front of the camera, between me and the camera.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Plenty of It's been a while, but.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
An I out folks, we might get one to pull
up here. And so yeah, yeah, I took I took
note of that, and I was like, okay, cool. First night,
you know that he has a sleep paralysis. So here
we go here, and so you know, I set up camp,
do my thing. I think that night we might have
I don't know. We took a little walk that night,
but you know, we did the normal camp stuff, you know,

(44:01):
just set up. The first couple of days, they didn't
go too hard and slowly, so it was him and
I there after I think a day or so, and
then slowly people started trickling in and we had quite
a few people show up.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
This time around.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
We had the typical uh Bluff Creek Project guys, and
that's you know, always a fun bunch.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
They're like the locals, that's their spot, you know. And
there's people that claim, you know, from other states, say
that Bluff Creek is is their spot.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
It's weird, Oh it's their territory.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
And that we're scaring the big foots out of there
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
It's like, oh, hey, no, listen, I know how people feel.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
We get territorial over our spots. That's why we don't
ever see I'm I don't have to tell people where
my research areas are. That place is infamous, so everybody
wants to go there. See people don't know where I go. Yeah, no,
I'm okay, But I.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Can understand them like being a little feeling encroached upon.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
And you know what's.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Interesting is even everyone knows about Blood Creek. But you know,
still even this date that not too many people go
up there. Usually when you go up there, you don't
really run in. I mean, there'll be people, you know,
every once in a while, and but for the most
part it's it's you know, there's nobody up there. It's
a trip. But I think now that Bluff Creek project's

(45:21):
making it more you know accessible. You know, we've been
this time. We cleared some of the trails and stuff
like that. We did some work in the area and
making it more accessible for people to get to and
stuff like that. And and I think that's cool, you
know that more people get to visit this cool spot.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
But yeah, can I can I stop you just for
a second, because this is oh and I don't want
to lose our train of thought because I keep you know,
I'm having a I always do that, So I'm sorry.
But Pilgrim Society mentioned that Nova Scotia just locked everybody
out of the woods with no fishing, no camping, no hunting,
no anything, with a twenty five thousand dollars. Fine, okay,

(46:00):
Like what that is wild?

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Like being locked.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Out of our national forest and everything, you know, when
all all were out there.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
You know, a lot of us just.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Want to go out there and explore and have fun.
And we're entitled to be able to be out there
on our federally owned land. Right.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, why not? That's true?

Speaker 1 (46:17):
What a Debbie Downer?

Speaker 4 (46:19):
Man?

Speaker 1 (46:19):
What's going on up there? I wonder?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, and you know, we've been having the fires are
still an issue. We had a fire going on up there,
and we'll tap on that in a little bit, uh
or maybe now it's called the Butler Fire, and that
was burning up that way.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
A lot of times.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
There's fires when when we go, you know, during the
summer and stuff like that. Last year we went twice,
so we got to go in July also in October.
But uh, yeah, so Butler fire burning. I'm not sure
about the containment, but yeah, those fires are an issue,
you know, and it gets scary. And we talked about
a couple of years back how some of the fires

(46:57):
got close actually to the Patterson site and they were
able to protect the site and everything. So that was
super cool that forestry and fire were able to do that,
you know, or else that whole spot. I mean, even
some of the videos you'll see, you know, some of
these burnt areas, some of the burnt areas have been
featured in other documentaries from last year as well.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
But yeah, and a documentary to keep an eye out for.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
You know, there was the one with there was two
of them with Alex Pettakov small Town Monsters. But there
was a really good one that he did on the
Go Road and actually that's the road once again that
we were talking about earlier that when they first started
building up that way. It was to do logging, you know,
to log a bunch of trees up there.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
And so they made this like it's this super highway
up to the Bluff Creek area, and actually I would
I would take this whole other road. There's a few
roads to get up in there, but there's nothing like
this go I'm like, I'm finally, I'm like so happy
because the way he was from the southern part of things,
from Willow Creek up and I would just take the

(48:04):
first road that would get me up there. But if
I would go a little further to the town of Orleans,
that would take me up through this Go Road. And
this Go Road has a lot of history with also
sightings as well and activity actually bigfoot wilderness research. Salute
to my brother Todd Todd Samples, who was also up
that way this time around, and I got to spend

(48:26):
a lot of time with him. Was super cool, and
he showed me a lot of areas he's been doing
a lot of work up there and finding a lot
of interesting things. And yeah, one of the documentaries they
featured some tracks a trackway that he found on the
snow there on the Go Road. So Alex Petakop did
this documentary called The Lost Bigfoot Highway, and I recommend it,

(48:47):
and it gets all into the Go Road because Go
Road ended up stopping because it was going to connect
these two towns, which some of the lumber companies were
going to be able to just have a straight shot
from like Oregon straight in there to be able to
log this area out. But you know, they fought it
and they stopped this road, and so that whole area

(49:08):
is still preserved, you know, it remained preserved and get logged.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
And this is all yeah, all near the Bluff Creek area.
So we did an overnight hike into this area. And
some of these areas you can't go to because they're
sacred areas to the natives as well. So there's a
whole thing with a lot of these areas. You know,
it's very special areas to these different tribes and stuff
like that, and there's all these legends and stuff too.
You know, the people think that just it's just Bigfoot country.

(49:36):
But there's a YouTuber by the name of Peter Santanello
who recently and some of you might know him.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
He's a big YouTuber.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
He goes all over the place interviews people go to
different towns and points out old world buildings sometimes and
stuff too.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
So yeah, but he did it. Yeah, he recently did
a trip to Humboldt County and did a three part
series out of there, and I'm one of them. I
recommend the ball and it gives you a good in
site into Humboldt County. But he did one actually out
of the Hoopa Reservation, which is awesome. And he goes
out with one of the locals, Sam, and he brings

(50:12):
up Bigfoot, and yeah, Sam mentions that the Patterson Gimbling
was filmed not too far from there. I think he
mentions Aiken Road, but maybe he did that to throw
people off, but yeah, he mentioned that.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
But then he brought up with little people and which
I thought was fascinating because a lot of times, again
a lot of us are just focused on Bigfoot and
that's about it. But we hear about the legends and
stuff like that, and it just makes you wonder. But
there's talks of little people out of there too, so
something to keep in mind there. And there's also another

(50:47):
brother from the Hoopa Reservation there at the Hoop of
People Inker who's well known actually he's been out, he's
had his own big Bigfoot experiences, you know, is preserving
his culture. And yeah, he's talked different documentaries and stuff.
He actually went out with Les Stroud when less Stroud

(51:08):
did the Willow Creek episode. Is Incer that he went
out with, and and so he has a lot of
you know, native knowledge.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
And actually this time around, my buddy Jonathan wanted to
talk to someone a native, a local native, and get
some input and do a little work with somebody.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
And we weren't sure exactly who we were going to get.
But it just it's weird how things work out. The universe,
the creator and everything. I knew Inker from before, you know,
and I had met him a couple of times, and
and I was like, you know what, the Inker is
the person to talk to, you know, And we made

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that happen.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
We found him somehow.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I knew where to look, and we found brother Incer
and we just got this amazing tour. We were in
the Tissy Tang hopefully I pronounced that properly, and he
just gave us a tour and and just uh was
schooling us on some of the hoop of legends and everything.
And he's gotten into some you know, it's not only Bigfoot.

(52:12):
He got into different things, like some of the hills
there them being like dragons and stuff like that before
different beings and very properly.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
My Alabama dragon sounds like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
You've been you've been checking out dragons and snakes.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
The quotes just happened them.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Actually, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
That's how my life works.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
You know, you know how it flows. So yeah, no,
it's amazing. So I'm really excited about Jonathan and that
interview and what else he has to offer from his trip.
And yeah, so you know that happened. And so going
back to Bluff Creek, you know, spending a lot of
time up on the hill there. Uh, you know, we're

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doing our thing and and you know, certain nights we'd
like to go out at night, walk the roads at
night with no lights and you know, our thermals and
audio and stuff like that, and some people are in
I'm not big into the wood knocking and stuff. Guys
are Actually my buddy Jonathan. I heard someone recently also
say that they use a jam block. So he brings

(53:19):
a jam block like instrument and it makes it awesome
like wood sound. So there's no trees hurt folks, you know,
and it makes a perfect knocking sound, and so that's
awesome to use.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
And we're always thinking of new ideas and stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
A lot of the guys are, you know, some of
us are pretty young too, and they're always coming up
with new ideas and stuff, like Tait and another buddy,
Ron who didn't make it out this year. Actually he
went to Canada and I heard he got some action
out there. But they have this really cool projector and
it projects out like these It almost looks like a rave,

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you know, these amazing patterns of different lights and stuff
like that. And so the laser shows a laser show,
laser show in the forest and you know, and see
if that would maybe attract something and stuff.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
So you know, I'm trying stuff like that and uh,
hanging the glow sticks, you know. So we had this
little rave beat going. Yeah the music down that no music, Yeah,
and already I'm like, oh yeah, you know they have
those what is it, those silent rains where you.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, that's not gonna do anything for the big Foot,
but all the all the researchers can jam out.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Yeah, you know, just different things.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
And you know, every night I would set up my
game cam actually uh facing my tent, so I would
put it on the bumper of my truck and just
facing towards the my tent and stuff, and just in case,
you know, anything is lurking around my tent, I want
to know.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
And in the video we've actually got a video to
show tonight actually of the camera angle. That was very smart,
and we do that on our base camps as well.
A lot of times we'll put cameras up facing our
tents just to see what's lurking around because a lot
of times they come up from behind our tents whatever's
out there.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, and and so yeah, hopefully you know, we'll be
able to pull this little bit of footage up.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
But so uh so it wasn't. So it's not like
you get up to Bluff Creek and the big foots
are jumping out and vocalization. It's not like that. You know,
it's very much for the most part, a lot of
time it's just normal.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
And yeah, it gets creepy at night even there the day,
you know, and there's certain parts that are just kind
of eerie, like you don't know if freaking bear is
gonna pop out or mountain lion or you know, or
a bigfoot're.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
A terrible person or anything that too.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, you know, we do have some some Yeah, I
want to.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
I want to think real quick before I want to.
I was gonna pull up that video, but I want
to think. Lennelie, thank you so much for that super stecret.
I appreciate you so much. While while you're talking, I'm
gonna be pulling up the video because it's gonna take
me just right. Okay, So if you wonder what I'm
doing pulling up.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Yeah, so we're doing our thing, you know, every you know,
maybe during a certain day, there was a certain day
I went and did solo hike, you know, checking out
new logging trails, trying to you know, explore new places
haven't been to, getting out of base camp.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
And we love base camp, you know, some of you
you mentioned it a lot. It's cool to just sometimes chill.
Even Digger Dog he's one of those types. It seems like,
you know, he's let it come to us. And I
believe that works too.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
You know, if you're just chilling out and putting off
a certain vibe maybe, you know, I believe they come
into camp and check things out too, you know, but
it's you know, it's also I love to go check
out new areas and see what's happening in other places.
And there's just so many hills, so many old logging roads,
so many places you could hide and go. It's a
trip and it's fun bumping around those hills, let me

(56:48):
tell you. And especially at night too. And so you know,
we're trying different things. You know, nothing really happened like
as far as like any loud vocalizations anything. And let's
see here. So there was maybe let's get into the
third night or so we had gone.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
So there's Louse Camp where we were camped at. And
if you've seen the movie Willow Creek, you know, check
it out if you're into like a creepy Bigfoot movies.
There's an awesome swimming hole there. And the water in
Bluff Creek is amazing, super clear, super cold, and I
recommend the cold plunge if you ever get to visit.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
And the kind of that's what we do that too.
When we're out in the field doing our Bigfoot research.
We have a cold a cold spot we go to
really cold.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
It's a cold hole. The Masogi hole is what we
call it.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Right on. Well we have the bluffy yeah, yeah, yeah,
this thing is is rejuvenating. I mean, it's it's amazing
to get into it.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
To me, it's almost like a it's re energizing, refreshing
to the soul, the body, the mind. And every time
I get in that water and yeah, you know, and
you could get in there, you know it completely with
no clothes. You know, we give you that privacy as well.
You know, it's totally private like that too if you

(58:14):
need to do that, which I prefer. Uh and uh yeah,
connect with rate with nature like you know, round nature
like that is it's amazing. Let those feet ground in
that those rocks and sand there and it's just amazing.
But anyway, uh, yes, you know the third night we

(58:35):
had gone to this other and that campsite has a
lot of history. You know, that's where the loggers used
to log back in the day. Even that campsite was
a hunter's uh I guess a hunter's site for some
of the natives also for hundreds of years.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
And here we go.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
So the sorry, just it kind of randomly just pulled up. Sorry,
we're looking at so this.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Is actually, thank goodness, the reflections you know, not shureing
my license plate. But actually this I had it propped
up on a piece of log, on a log, and
I had it facing my my tent there and and
so I didn't check the game cam footage out till
way later. And and there's some clips where I noticed that,

(59:21):
you know, this could be I get that this could
be confused for dust and stuff like that, but I
really I went through the footage before it and after it,
and there's a little light there.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
I think that that's me.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Coming from another area where were all hanging out at.
But yeah, so I've noticed the dust, and but there
was no one around here and nothing. I don't think
there was anything that moved around that may have caused dust.
And I was going through other footage and I got
more clips like this, and some of this stuff is
super rare. I mean, there's just like hundreds of these

(59:56):
possibly maybe orbs or you call them what you want.
I don't think there's bugs. And when the bugs do
show up, they're actually pretty clear and you could tell
when they're bugs. And there were some clips where I
could see where maybe I was adjusting or setting the camera,
and you know, dust would fly off a little bit
and it looks very similar. But uh, in these in
this particular clip and these other clips, I don't think

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it's dust. And there was some other weird stuff that happen,
and it's going to fast forward to this particular night,
but actually this is this is cool because the third
this was like the third night, so we had we
were staying at Loos Camp, most of us, and there
was one friend of ours, a lady friend, who was
staying actually solo. She's hardcore h and apparently she's been

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having activity.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
I've brought her up before.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
She was staying up at this other spot which is
on the ridge. So we're like at the bottom of uh,
this particular area. We're like down in in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
A bowl where is where Loos Camp is and this
ridge top site. And actually you get a little cell
service up there. You might get a bar or two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I think you did a video from there, didn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Yeah, we've stayed someone went live, I think Brent. Uh
and we'll talk about him in a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Yeah, So she was staying up there and and so
we went to go visit, go check in, see what's up,
say what's up?

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Actually she that night there was a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Other people Damon Irons, who's been on some small Town
Monsters documentaries, and uh, A couple other people were up
there with her, and then we went to go check
it check in on them. It was nighttime and we
pull up and we're all talking and uh, and I
look up in the sky. I'm using my psionics to
kind of scan around and check stuff out, and then
I noticed this little red like, uh, it looked like

(01:01:42):
and keep in mind there's these fires going on, but
it looked like an ember. And that night it wasn't
too smoky. It looked like a little red ember flying
above the trees. And I heard you talking about this,
I think recently, almost something orb or something like that.
I was flying above the tree line and yeah, this
was right above the trees and it was just moving slowly,
so I thought maybe like a satellite at first, but

(01:02:03):
it was reddish, and then it started doing this weird
little like motion that I know satellites don't do, and
I was like, oh, this is something there. And I
didn't give me a chance to pull out my camera
or the psionics or anything. It just kind of disappeared
and and it reminded me of like an ember looked
like a color of an ember. I was like, whoa,

(01:02:25):
it's trippy. And I mentioned it. Everyone's just kind of
looking looking.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
At me, like what, No, red is a common common
colored light that we see out there, Actually something like
reddish orange. We see that a lot, and we've we've
actually been connecting that a lot of times when we've
been out there. We connected the et activity.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Yeah, well that's interesting because let me tell you this.
So I mentioned the people, the young people doing the
surveys up there and stuff and doing it for the
tribe and all that. Well there's another and I'll try
to like keep her or keep yeah, keep her low key.
But it was another person that was doing some sort
of work and they came by and actually shared with

(01:03:04):
us because they actually live at the bottom of this hill.
At the bottom of the hill is I guess, just
a few properties I haven't seen. I've only heard so
not too many people live in that area and just
a few people at the bottom of the hill. The
rest of the hill is also a six Rivers wilderness,
and I guess she stays down there, and she says

(01:03:24):
she's not a believer, but she was saying that the
people she stays with on the property have had sightings
and neighbors to have had sightings bigfoot sightings, okay, and
which is you know, expected, but it's super cool to
hear from this particular person.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
And I was like, wow, super cool. We're having this
conversation and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
They said and UFO sidings, and I was just like, oh, man,
there it is. You know, just like a lot of
us don't like to, you know, mesh the two, but
it just it comes up. It's a thing, the strange
lights and big foot activities, you know. Yeah, and it
was interesting that she mentioned that, and so I wanted

(01:04:06):
to ask more, but I wonder if it was related
or separate do they feel, you know? And once again
on that interview on that documentary about the Go Road,
they interview a local man who lives at the bottom
of the hill also so she they must know each other,
and he talks about his wife he smelled things, but

(01:04:27):
he never seen anything himself, but his wife and neighbors
he says, have had sightings at the bottom of the
hill there, which is fascinating to hear. And yeah, just
you know, you're hoping that you could have a sighting yourself.
But let me tell you so fast forward checking out
a lot of these different spots that we go to,
Layered Meadow and and and there was different spots where

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hitting up at at night and just chilling out walking
the roads, you know, Thurman, and and not much was
really happening. Okay, that's what it seems like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Things were just kind of subtle, maybe like you might
hear a little stick pop or something like that, but
nothing major. But people were having you know, there's something
about Loos Camp because you're in a bowl, and so
they say, when the creek is going by there, you
get a lot of audio paradolia, so you'll hear what
sounds like voices and stuff like that. But a lot
of times it's because of the water, but it also

(01:05:22):
could be that there's something there, because some people do
claim that Loos Camp is haunted. And for example, Tait
Huronomous had had his dad come out and I'm sure
he's probably talked about this before on live or on
a podcast, but his dad and this lady that was
staying up at the cell site, and this is years back,

(01:05:44):
they had a sighting at Loos Camp and it was
of an apparition of what they claimed to be a
Native American woman. So they seem like a ghost at
this camp. And this is back in the area where
I was I had my tent set up. Then James
Bobo Fay. You know y'all know Bobo. Yeah, yeah, he's

(01:06:05):
had a oh yeah, so he's he's a local there.
You know, he's well known in that area.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
He knows he's uh squatched a bluff Creek that's one
of his spots for for years. And he's just a
great source of information and a you know, a cool
friend to have and let me, let me tell you
in this field and and uh and for a long
time even he was pretty much a neighbor too when
I lived up in Arcada. He didn't you know, we're

(01:06:31):
not too far from each other, and we've hit the
field and stuff like that. And uh, anyway, he's talked
about a sighting and you know what, there was a
super good interview.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
I know you're always mentioning Merkle. Salute to Tony Merkle.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I remember I used to watch Merkle and he used
to do his lives in his truck and stuff. And
now he's big time and I've been catching up with
some of his shows. But there's an awesome show with
Tony Merkle and James Bobo Fay and Bobo gets into
oh yeah, and orbs come up, and he gets in
to some of the UFO stuff. So Bobo even will

(01:07:04):
mention some of the UFO activity he's had up that
way and some of the orb activity that has happened
possibly you know, a bigfoot related too, you know, and
and and so anyways, I recommend that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
That's credible because that's what we've we've always experienced out
in Georgia, you know, and all over the southeast. So
where there's where there's orbs, there's usually big foots. There's
usually ghosts. There might be dog men, there could be
all sorts of you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
And and we don't want to think about. I don't
want to think about. I know you're you're all for it,
but I'm like, oh lord, no, not especially at night.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
It's cool to think about and talk about online, but
where you're in the field and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
The or non a tent, when you're in a hammock
with a tarp over it, five six miles into the Alabama,
for us, it's it's not always a great feeling, okay,
when I go out there chasing dog men and and
I have I have questioned my you know mine, like
what am I doing? I have definitely questioned my my

(01:08:08):
decisions in the moment a couple of times. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Yeah, And you know at the moment, you know, I'm
all for you know, in Bigfoot as well. Boo could
tear you up and you know whatever, or take you off.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Yeah, we will rip you into.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Pieces, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
And uh so you know it's kind of funny that
you know, I don't. I'm not really into the doctor,
and I don't doubt it, you know, right now, it's
all go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
We've talked about this.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I mean, you could even some of the strangest topics
you bring up, and it's possible that this stuff is
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
So I don't you know, well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Actually, you know what your friend. I think it's Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
I believe who you would interviewed at your shop, you
talk at your shop. I believe he's in the chat
right now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
All right, he's here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
What's uh? He said? I don't I don't know who do,
but I just remember him from you mentioned him about
the when we were talking about the dog man attacking
the homeless populations.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
County over the mission of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
The chat that he had heard of another case of
dogs an aliving.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Woman, I believe, and see so. And then I heard one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I just seen one recently on the tube and it
was out of San Bernardino and it was a young
lady who got actually attacked by a pack of dogs
and luckily she lived, but she man, they tore her up.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
It was bad, real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
I'm so sorry to hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Yeah, and you know what, we get that quite a bit.
Even up north.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
You know, there was a humble there was these packs
of dogs every so often that we're going around and
messing up cattle and stuff like that. You know, luckily
they weren't hitting people, but it's been an issue up
that way too, and out here southern California apparently also.
But yeah, so where were we so the Red Orb had,

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you know, and I thought that was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Yeah, everyone, you know, it's kind of like whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
And we get a lot of the satellites that you know,
you know, everyone will say satellites, but I don't know
sometimes and and again I need to get better at,
you know, being able to pull up some of these
apps when I'm out there, because it's hard without the service.
So maybe there's a way to to you know, figure
out uh the satellites and maybe someone who let us

(01:10:26):
know in the chat a little app. I don't know
if it's a flight tracker that also tracks I think
there might be something that specializes in satellites. But yeah,
I really questioned some of these objects sometimes, and yeah,
I've seen some squiggly I think I might have some
stuff on the psionics here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Might be a little hard to tell because there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Were bats flying around as well, but yeah, I've seen
some stuff up in the skies up there before, so
I do take note of, you know, the orbs. And
so when I was back in Southern Humble, I was
getting a lot of ORB activity on the land ere
you know, from home. I would live stream from the
deck of my house and live stream these orbs and
you could check out some of these lives, but they're

(01:11:04):
like years back. You probably got to go five six
years back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
You're the you're our orb guy man, you're the ORB man.
Well yeah, even last year you're filming orbs out in
front of the shop.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Yeah, and so yet you know, we've talked about that also,
and that activity has you know, I kind of almost
stopped the other day, I did spot a couple and
they're just kind of really far away, and so I
was just like, all right, cool, cool to see them,
and they're still kind of around.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
But it wasn't like before. It was just like we
talked about it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
It was like daily I was posting videos of these
weird objects that were floating around, and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
I hear that happen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Sometimes you'll get a rash of stuff, even like bigfoot
sightings will happen, like a rash of bigfoot sightings in
an area for a hot minute or so, and then
it may stop for a few years, you know, And
so I'm wondering maybe it's like something like that's going on.
But I have tried, you know, the I call it
the CE four twenty man, but.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
It's broken around a five. Yeah, you know. So I
have you know, tried, uh, you know, just putting my
mind to it, and and things have happened, you know.
So I believe there is something to that, and maybe
you could use that technique with other things, not only objects.
So yeah, you know, Wink Wink can maybe give that

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a shot in the field.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
But yeah, let me let me take a second just
to thank in pw for that super stick. Thank you
so much, says I love love your show. We learned
so much. Yes, you always learned, don't. We were learning together.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Y'all, each one teach one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yes, yeah, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Little red orb and and so yeah, for the most part,
you know, we're all hanging out and hoping for something
major to happen, and and for the most part it didn't,
you know, but looking back, uh, there was some strange things.
So there was one particular night where so some more
people showed up. So we had a legendary guest and
it was he's been out there before. I think one

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of the last times was uh, he had been out
there in like eighty one or something like that, and
you know, but it was Thomas Steinberg out of British Columbia,
and so he came down from Canada and he actually
was rolling with Brent Dill. And I know some of

(01:13:19):
you someone in the chat there has had some things
would br before I know in several other big Footers,
and it just it gets intent sometimes with the people
in the reviews and stuff. But I got to meet
him and he was a cool dude, and so no,
it was all good. And he actually was writing with
Thomas Steinberg and it was cool to have them there

(01:13:40):
and have Thomas back and learning so much history from
Thomas too, it was awesome. And and then Brent, yeah,
he was you know, they solid and no problems and
we were hitting the field and doing our thing. And Thomas,
it was amazing to see him at his age and
still you know, with the with the boys out there

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bumping around the hills and he was doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
You know, it is amazing. So I'm sure that was
good for him to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
And uh, and I'm sure he probably still does it
up in Canada. But yeah, for him to come out
this way and and uh do his thing and just
share his time knowledge with with us, it was a
good times. And yes, stay tuned. I mean, I'm sure
I got a few clips. You know, I'm sure he
might come out on a few clips. And recently another

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group that came through and was you know, I was
super excited to meet them as well, was Salish Sasquatch.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
So the Browns. They're out of Washington State and they've
been putting out some awesome documentaries and stuff, and they
came out and uh did their thing and stuff and
actually featured me in in their dock, and they were
very interested in this thermal footage that we talked about
last time that came out of southern California that we
got here, my nephew had gotten and so we got

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into all that and shared that. But it was the
night before the Browns had a lot of people had left,
I think Thomas Steinberg and and so we've got to
do a lot of stuff. Daytime stuff too, went to area.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
So you know, there's gonna be quite a bit of
footage coming out from different people. And so Sailors Sasquatch
they put out their doc already so you could check
that out. It's over on their channel and you'll see
I think it's titled Bluff Creek, California Bigfoot or something
like that. And they did a great job with that,
and thank you again to them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Yeah. So the night they were a lot of people
were leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
There was this this We stayed up till like four
in the morning. It was like Jonathan Easley and I
were like the last ones to head to our tents
and it was like a little before four we go
all aboard. We got the train coming by here. I
don't know if you can hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
But I can't hear it. I feel like I usually
end up being one of the last ones up too,
every time we're camp lately.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
All right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I'm not saying I'm one of the young. Well, no,
it depends on what group I'm out with. But a lot,
a lot of times, uh, A lot of my people
I go out with are a lot older than me. Okay,
so they like to go to bed a little early,
and I'm getting old myself, okay, but uh, but I
still like to say up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
I'm like, well, I came all this way out here,
I'm staying up. Gotta do it until the sun comes up. Man,
we're staying up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, when you there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
You got to find that energy too, when you get
to read twelve hours and then you got to find
you know, get that right, and then you're sleeping in
a tent or like whatever your.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Quarters is, sleeping your rig or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Yeah, so you got to find really find the energy,
and hopefully you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
You gotta love what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
That's that's a secret.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Make sure you don't party too much and and you're
able to get up in the morning. And and and
and get out there and do stuff. And and you know,
I also think, yeah, getting up at it at a
good time and and uh, getting your day going, doing
what you got to do, you know, cook your food,
whatever it is, you know, get you know, charge your
gear is another thing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:04):
You know. I was really uh uh you know using
some of these battery packs, little solar chargers and stuff
like that. I still don't have a big setup.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Luckily some of these guys do too, so I was
able to use some of their gear to charge up.
And yeah, that's the thing too, to have your gear
charge ready to go, and and you know, just be ready,
you know. And yeah, so we're really focusing on that
and and yeah, doing a lot of inner work too
while we're out there. You know, you're out there looking
for sasquatch and everything, but also you're doing some some

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good inner work that needs to be done, and it's
just the perfect place to do it. We always say,
those hills out there bring everything out of you, you know,
and and sometimes things happen, and you know, in this
trip it wasn't all like you know, peaches and stuff.
Things happen and and you know, and I won't get
into it. But you know, things went down and h
and that's how it rolls, you know, and and we

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just do our best to be uh, do good and
and you know, do right, and yeah, I have a
good time. But so this particular night, people were getting
you know, starting to leave, and we did you know,
quite a bit of recording and checking out places and
some night stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
And this is still the first week. But yeah, So
this particular night, four in the morning, and Jonathan's getting
in his tent and he's on the opposite side of
the campground and there's people camped all over the place.
There was also some friends of ours that have been
coming in from Reno and they brought their son and stuff.
And it was just a good crowd out there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
And even though there's a lot of people, the campground's perfect,
you know, it was able to accommodate everyone. And it
seems like a lot of people, but still it's you know,
it's still good.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
It was all good.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
And like I said, if it gets too crowded, there's
other sites and people were in other sides doing their thing.
And anyway, so I get in my tent four in
the morning and everyone's pretty much everyone's knocked out, and
Jonathan's going to his tent, and so I see him
with just flashlight way across whatever. And then I hear
someone go to the outhouse. Is an outhouse there, and

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and they get back in their tent, so I could
hear everyone. And I stay up, but usually stay up
pretty late in my tent doing my thing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
That's the best time to listen in. That's what I
like to do, is late we lay in our tent.
I mean I will lay on my cot and uh,
and I will listen out because that's when the big fits.
You can start hearing them whooping and whistling to each other, triangulating,
and then you could hear them walk into your camp
and they wouldn't walk down there if you weren't in
your tent. And you got to listen to when everybody
starts snoring is when they start making all their noise

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out there. And so yeah, it's fun. I'm just like you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
And we also had so so next to me, like
off to one side of me was the homie Rowdy Kelly.
And Rowdy Kelly you know he's a local Bluff Creek
project guy. And y'all check out Sasquatch Sunset. It's a
great movie. I finally seen it. Rowdy worked on it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
He's worked on other films and commercials up in Humble
County and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
But awesome movie to watch. It's just not I wouldn't
recommend it for the kids.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Fully. Uh, you gotta watch it. Watch out you know,
it gets pretty squatchy. But yeah, definitely check out that movie.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Yeah, and it takes place up up there right where
we're talking about and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
And yeah, I heard Elvis Presley. Elvis Presley's granddaughter might
have played one of the Bigfoots in that, I think,
so that is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Yeah, that was Bigfoots. It looks like a very odd movie.
I'm just gonna say it looks odd.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
I have not seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I have not seen it, Okay, so do okay, Yeah,
and ikot to watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Yeah, So Rowdy Kelly and I totally ruddy totally trust him,
you know, I trust everyone that was there. And so
I get in my tent, you know, and it's pretty dark,
but I have a little light in my tent. And uh,
at one point, so I heard someone go to the
outhouse whatever and they came back, and I could tell
when people you know, you hear the unzipping of the
tent and you hear them, you know, get in their

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tent and it just you could imagine, you can almost
visualize what you're hearing.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Yeah. Yes, And then we have the creek going by there.
So again you know there's that creek, which is awesome,
the sound of flowing with the white noise.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
This white noise.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I like how you said it was water.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
What did you say, water, Paradoia audio audio.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yeah, that's really cool. I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Yeah. And so throughout the day. Yeah, so throughout the days,
people are claiming they're hearing stuff and I'm hearing it too.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
So sometimes you hear voices and stuff like that. And uh,
last year from one particular area, I heard a big
old YO and I was like, whoa, what the hell?
No no one else heard it, but uh, yeah, people
have heard stuff from that particular area, Like Todd Samples
was explaining, I'm like, dude, that's where I heard that
YO from.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
And so you hear a lot of different things, and
so you keep you got to keep that in mind.
So it's it's a mixture, hard to you know, determine
some Well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
That's where I heard my own voice, say, time Travel
was passing by a creek and there was one running
water and it was pretty loud right there, but I
could hear it clearly, and so it was it was
a voice yelling time Travel, really loud. It was it
was kind of drowned out over the water, and the
other two people didn't hear it. Yeah, so yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Right, I think, well, I think it's a message and
you heard it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
So I heard it and it was that voice.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, so yeah, you know, there's weird
stuff going on. And actually the night of I need
to rewind a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
There's a particular night before this situation I'm about to
explain at Laos Camp. There was a light and it
was a red light that appeared and it was up
across the creek and the trees, and it looked like
like maybe someone was backing up and then hit the
brakes or something like that, and it actually looked like

(01:22:58):
or a flecktor someone had like a red reflector and
light hit it and so it just flickered for a
bit and it shined red, and I was like, what
the hell, Like all right, I didn't say anything, and
I didn't notice any any vehicles moving, and it happened again,
and this lady friend that was with us, the people
from Reno, she mentioned it and I.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Was like, oh, my goodness, you've seen that too. And
then so we were tripping out and a little bit later,
from another side of camp along where the water's running
in the creek, we noticed a bright light and so
Tate no, I didn't say anything because I didn't want
to be like, oh, yeah, well, Dwarf's always into these
strange lights and everything in these points.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Yes, YouTube channel.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
I anything. And Tate's like, hey, that that that it
looks brighter, like he noticed this light and it yeah,
it looked like a car was driving down the creek,
which is like impossible and uh. But later Tate feels
like it was the moonlight because I guess the moon
was getting pretty bright then. But I don't think it

(01:24:03):
was a moonlight. I think it was weird and something else.
But anyway, again I didn't get video that should have
been taking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Video, but we're all hanging around the hanging around talking
and just kind of caught up in the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
But I did get footage and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
So anyway, I'm getting in my tent and this particular night,
and so I heard someone go to the outhouse whatever
they get back in, and I'm just chilling for a
while doing my thing. I don't hear anyone else. I
could tell everyone in camp is gone to bed and stuff.
And then so it behind me. I think I have

(01:24:39):
the light on. No, so I had turned off the light.
I think it might have been or something like that.
And I had this light that's kind of a sensor light,
so every once in a while it was shut off.
So maybe that's what happened. But I started noticing this
light from behind my tent. And I'm in an area where,
like the creek, you gotta go down like a steep

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embankment to get to the creek. So there's a little
trail there to the creek, which is kind of creepy
because if there's anything creeping by the creek, it could
come up that trail there, which is perfect too, right,
but behind me is nothing but trees and bushes and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
And I'm sitting in my tent and it's completely dark.
You can hear the water there. I'm glad you're able
to pull this up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
And so I'm sitting in the dark my tent and
I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm noticing this light but
seeing the video looks like the lights coming from in
front of the tent, but really it was coming from
behind me and it was lighting the front of my
tent up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
So it was just weird. And I was like making
sure that that was what was happening.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
And it freaked me out because I know there couldn't
be anyone really behind me. Last year I had gotten
some footage and see it would light up a little bit,
then it got dark, and I'm just like, all right,
let me record, and I didn't want to say anything,
and I was tripping out here. I'm like, there's something
here and it's not our people and uh, and so

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I'm recording.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
You'll see the light will get intense here in a bit.
There goes again. It's real dim.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
That's pretty bright.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Yeah, And that looked like almost like someone turned on
the flashlight or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
It did, And that's when.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
I when I asked you when you first When I
first saw this last night, I was looking at it
and I was like, are you you know? And I
asked you today, I was like, there's nobody behind your tent?
Like a walking in the woods, go to the bathroom
at night, no flashlights, no nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Yeah no you're not. You're not going to go behind
the bathroom behind my tent. First of all, I'm like, bro,
go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
I don't know, people do weird stuff at night. I'm
just saying people, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
And believe me, I would have been hearing like if
there were anywhere, and then if they were doing weird stuff,
I'd be like, yo, you know, don't do your weird
stuff near my tent, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:26:58):
But whatever it was, I could feel.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Inside me, and it reminded me a lot of times
when I would look at these orbs from the property.
Sometimes I would engage with them, like uh, just like
staring at them so long that I would almost freak out,
and I would go inside the house and kind of
take a break, and I just I felt that feeling.
It was like something's there, and I could hear a
little something like little pops and stuff, and some of

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it's recorded here, and so I could sense something was
out there too, and it wasn't like your normal like
I think if it were someone maybe going through there,
you could hear like maybe a sniffle.

Speaker 4 (01:27:33):
Or something something a fart or something wild man in
the chat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
There you go, sovereign while sovereign cosmic, while man is
missing the fart conversation right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Now, Okay, yeah, maybe we'll summon.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Yeah, better watch the rerun or something, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Yeah, but I could sense inside me that it wasn't
a per like. It wasn't it was something and it
wasn't normal, and so I just stayed quiet, recorded and
I have more clips of this which eventually later on
I'll put together and share it. Actually, my computer, my
phone and stuff, a bunch of stuff full of data.

(01:28:12):
So I have to like get hard drives and all
this stuff to clear space. But soon, folks, we'll be
having some videos coming out and and we'll try to
do mix it up, do something different.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
And anyway, so that started.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
That's a really good video though. And you know what,
that's okay because when we when we're out in the field,
the one constant that we have out there orbs and
strange lights, okay or just strange lights.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
And and we had Keith. Keith McLean was on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Shout out to Keith. He is watching live at home
from his couch right now. Because he called me right
before the show, what's up, Keith? And I was choking
around about how my mom and told me she was like,
Keith is probably the most qualified bigfoot researcher you've ever
had on your show, Jessica. He he's somebody. He's not
public whatsoever. He's only done my show. I think he
never talks about bigfoot publicly. But he's a wildlife biologist

(01:29:02):
and all that, and and so yeah, he had he
had talked about the light that like showed up in
our base camp that night, and it was like a
little a little light and it almost like I had
an aperture to it and it got bigger and it's
very similar to what we just watched right there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Well, yeah, last year, I had to set up my
game cam near the swimming hole and I didn't have
it on during when swimming hours, folks. So I don't
got people captured on.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
Taking a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Wasn't wasn't the voyeuristic type, y'all. He's trying to get evidence.

Speaker 4 (01:29:37):
Okay, Yeah, I've heard of some other weird clips that
maybe you don't want to have fun anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Oh my god, that's something you got to watch out
for too. Like when we're out there doing bigfooting. Sometimes
there's no there's no porta potties out there, y'all. You
have to use to water a tree sometimes, right, And
there have been times where I'll get I'll get upset
if I see somebody's putting game cam out there, and
I'm like, look, we've got to go be And so
thank goodness, we're so far out there. Anybody that's on

(01:30:05):
our team will tell us where there's a game camp.
But there are hunters and stuff, y'all. There's people that
we don't know. We'll have game cams out there. You
have to be careful and they they will pick you
up in the dark. Okay, so you'd never know what
is washing you out there.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
Yeah, this of the guys brought a luggable loo, which
is pretty cool. I think it's like a five gallon
bucket with a toilet seat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
And come, oh, I've got I've got five of those
downstairs in my garage right now. I got five camping toilets.
Thank you to Bob Grumpy Wilson was I was left
all his camping toilets.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Thank you, Bob.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
What's up Robbie? You brother? I see everybody in the chat, right,
he'll Billier Pears bro and so yeah, that that was
pretty intense. So that went on for like, I want
to say, a good forty minutes, okay, and then my
phone was full of full of data and and I
could only get several clips, but I got some some clips.
I think it was like a two minute and a

(01:31:05):
three minute and one minute. So I'll be putting all
that together, and I think there was something there. And
of course in the morning we asked most people, uh,
some people had already left, but yeah, you know, and
even with Rowdy and and Rowdy's pretty straightforward with everything,
and you know, he's like, oh, yeah, we got to
do a remake, you know, of of this. And I

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would imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
He'd probably you know, test out flash lights and da
da da, which would be cool to do. But we
didn't do all that. But I truly feel that there
was something there.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
So along with this light, Jessica was and everybody was
this smell, okay, and it was a sewer smell. So
it wasn't the are.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
You was using the bathroom behind your tent.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
You know what? That came up because the girl that
seen the red light, the other the other night that
their camp. She had her partner with her and her son.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
They got the smell during a particular day and they
came over and we talked about it and we're like, well,
could have been someone that you know, maybe, but you
normally don't smell the outhouse, and if you do use
the outhouse, the outhouse has a particular smell and which is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
A whiff of it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
Sometimes you never it never throughout the years there, I've
never gotten a whiff of the outhouse or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
So that's super cool about it. But uh yeah, so
I don't think it was. And they mentioned that, They're like, hey,
we got.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
This gnarly smell over here, and but you know, it's like,
well someone did use the out you know, but I
don't know anyway, so we just kind of you know,
I I, yeah, I took a note of that, and
I'm like, okay, well I didn't smell it. But but
this night, when the light came on, I got this.
It wasn't the outhouse. It was like a freaking sewer smell.

(01:32:57):
I live in it. I'm staying in LA I know,
with the sewers smell like, and so it wasn't like
a poopy smell. Oh, it's just like a like a
se No, it wasn't. It wasn't sulfuric. And a lot
of times the report sulfur.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
So I'm like, I was looking for like a sulfuric smell,
and I'm very you know, I've smelled sulfur before.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
And it wasn't. It wasn't like maybe there was some
sulfur in there, but it wasn't. Sulfur didn't come to
my mind. A sewer came to my mind for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Yeah, and uh, and it got it was getting intense
and more intense and more intense, and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
I was just like, all right, bro, I get it,
like smell you.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
But whatever it was, I don't know, you know, I'm
not saying it was bigfoot or anything. And I've had
like maybe one other time recently, I got a weird
smell in the Redwoods and I mentioned it in the video,
but other than that, there hasn't been too many times
where I could remember getting the smell that people talk about.
But that that was pretty interesting, I thought. And I
was like, the light stuff's going on and I'm hearing

(01:33:58):
little pops and then I could since like I'm not
gonna say it was by pedal footsteps, but I could
sense something outside of my tent and it sounded like
something moving around, so almost like steps of something. And
you know what it And you know, we were up
there to try to get this footage, this and that,
but something told me, don't go out of your tent, bro.
And it's happened to me before. And I'll go back

(01:34:20):
to a dream that I had up in a particular area. Yeah,
Layered Meadow. This happened a few years back, and I
talked about it. A bunch of dudes were up there.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
Kit Morell, which has recently been getting featured over a
flash of Beauty's Channel, which is an awesome bigfoot channel.
Check it out. Yeah, Toby Johnson and so even Tobe. Yes,
I was checking out some of their latest posts. He
interviews some dude.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
They were up at the Sasquatch Summerfest festival that Digger
Dog got to go to.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
I hear, hopefully I had a good time out there,
Digger Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
He was talking to this guy, a local Oregonian dude
who spend a lot of time at at a young age,
you started, you know, having these experiences and they talk
about this orb, weird little orb that he describes almost
like you were describing right now. And so when I
had set up my game, came down where the swimming
hole was I captured last year this thing that was
floating around. It almost looked like like a leaf on

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a like a spiderweb or something. It was moving all
weird and it was bright, and it wasn't a leaf,
and we could go through that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
I have footage of that. One of these days I could.
I think I already had posted it, and and so
it was weird.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
I thought that was strange that that had popped up
down there. I was like, oh, this looks like an
orb here. And I got a lot of footage of that. Well,
so we'll do another follow up on that whole thing,
maybe in a close examination of this weird little object there.
But yeah, so I got the smell and all this
stuff happening there. That was pretty trippy. And a few

(01:35:57):
nights later, maybe I want to say, maybe two or three,
possibly nights later, again at nighttime, I started getting this
foul smell. Now this time it wasn't a sewer smell,
but it was a bad musky smell and it was intense,

(01:36:18):
and it kept getting more intense, and there was no
I didn't see any strange lights or anything weird that
happened on this particular night that I could remember, but
that smell.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
Got really really hardcore, and I was like, ooh, this
is really bad, and I'm like, wow, is this like
is one of them out here?

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
You know, this is happening again? And it wasn't again.
It wasn't a poopy smell, but it was almost like
a smell of like.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Bad like bad breath, almost like this decay and yeah,
it's what I came to mind. It was.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
It was horrible, and I was like, tring, Well, I'm like,
if that's what they smell like, well, I'm like, oh, man,
going up the face might be a little tough.

Speaker 5 (01:37:04):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Then they swing bio while we're sleeping so we don't
have to smell them too.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Oh yeah, I guess right, Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Though, you know, well, I wanted I wanted to note
that when Keith was describing that light that showed up
in our base camp that he saw because he's always
in his hammock right with like a tarp over it usually,
and and when he saw that, and it kind of
like opened up. He said, it got to be about
the size of a basketball, I think. And we're kind

(01:37:31):
of attributed because then he heard some bipedal footsteps, and
we're kind of attributing that maybe to a portal opening.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Okay, very possible.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
That could have been kind of what you were picking
up on that video from the inside of your tent.

Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Yeah, I'm open.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Yeah, I'm open to you know, who knows. And it's
interesting to hear some of the from locally there. Some
of the guys get into their urb and strange lights,
although they don't they don't put too much stock into it,
but it's a thing, you know, and it does happen.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
And yeah, so kind of weird. And then so that
ORB footage from the game cam that you were showing earlier,
I believe the date is the following. So the the
tent footage it says the twelve, and then the game
cam footage says the thirteen. So I just need to
confirm that the game cam is on the correct date

(01:38:22):
and everything. Uh So, yeah, I thought this was pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
So this might if the date is correct, then this
happened the day after when those lights happened, you know,
So I thought it was something interesting there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
I was like, all right, so I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
You know, continuing to go through my footage, and there
was a lot of stuff that I missed. I was
able to use my audio recorder, but the you know,
I thought I was recording on certain nights and certain stuff,
you know, and I only came back with a certain
amount of recording, which is all good. There was a
lot of footage that I thought I was taking, but
SD cards were full, so I didn't really get all that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
But I'm happy with what I got and we'll you know,
work with it. But it was a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
And just like, yeah, being able to spend you know,
that's the thing for us, to be able to spend
h as much as as much time as possible in
these areas. You know, a lot of people talk about like, yeah,
we need someone to stay out there for like six months,
you know, wherever it may be, and and it just
it would be awesome. But two weeks was a good
little more than two weeks was a good run. And

(01:39:26):
hopefully we could keep pushing it for longer amounts of
time and stuff. And yeah, I believe there's a high
strange and it's still going on up there, although like
I said, it's very subtle. It wasn't like, oh everyone
loud lights and there people freaking out. No, And what
was interesting also, so I mentioned this lady Terry having
some activity possibly you know, who knows. She's alone a

(01:39:49):
lot of time, which is hardcore. She mentions that she's
part Native American and has been getting in touch with
that side of herself. So maybe she does have something
going on there. And there's been some audio from that
particular area that a friend has captured and which is
really compelling, you know, it's I don't know, it leads
me to believe that there's there's stuff happening. And so

(01:40:12):
let's see Sailor's Sasquad. So there are a couple that
the Browns, and I think it was a day before
they left. I think the wife had some sort of
sighting of of some sort of dark figure running through
Louse Camp and she explains it in the documentary and

(01:40:32):
so yeah, who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:40:33):
You know, I wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
I didn't see it, but I heard about it and
she shared that and it makes you wonder, you know,
And so a lot of people still do have stuff
going on there in these areas and even some of
the guys that have been going for a long time
have had stuff happen.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
But it's not like every time that you go up there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
You know, it's not always that things happen, and sometimes
things happen but subtly, and you really got to look
and and and process, you know, your trip or your
experiences to point out little things like we talked about
the paralysis and everything. So there was this time going
back into these dreams, you know, and I think that's

(01:41:13):
a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:41:14):
Dreams and what feel like dreams and.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
Bigfoot and maybe these other things, you know, ET's and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:41:22):
So we're at Loos.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
This is a couple of years back where at No
Layered Metal, and we did a night investigation, which I
always love doing that. And then we're ending our investigation.
Everyone most people are sleeping. I ended up sleeping in
my truck. I left my stuff at Loos Camp. So
I was just like, all right, I'll just lay in
the front of my truck here and call it good.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
And well I didn't lock the door before, okay, Yeah,
And then at one point I wake up and everyone's
sleeping and I feel I have a custom bumper on
my truck and I felt the bumper being pressed down
like I didn't have I could didn't see, but I
could imagine it. And it was something pressing down on
my front bumper and my truck is raised a little

(01:42:06):
bit too, and I can feel it going down and
I'm freaking out. Just again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
I'm get getting this feeling that I did with the light,
and I could sense something's out there, and something told
me don't open your eyes, and so I didn't open
my eyes and I'm like, shoot, my doors are unlocked.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
And I was like, oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
And oh god, you just made me start sweating. I
just got nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:42:28):
My goodness. The bumper kept going down, and I'm like,
is am I it was weird. No, I couldn't. I
didn't want to move, I didn't want to open my
eyes or nothing. I was just like, all right, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Gonna go ahead and go along with the subduction. Okay,
whatever happens, happens. I'm not opening my eyes. Yeah, yes,
you know that's something I've been there.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
Yeah, I'm going to pay attention to folks. You know,
these possible dreams or what feel like dreams when you're
in this, when when you're in these area is, you know,
stuff like that. So I'm just putting out those things.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
I don't want to make it seem like, oh yeah,
all this action was happening. No, for the most part,
everything seemed pretty normal, but these little things were happening.
And I'm glad I'm remembering what I can here, and
I thank you Jessica for giving me the opportunity to
come up here and share with you.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Thank you for coming on the show to even talking
about it. I mean, I think I think that you're
hitting on some really important elements too, especially with with
the dreams, because people discount that.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
And I think my.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Team, especially my Meadow team, the one with the Meadow project,
we have oftentimes when we even when we go home
after we've been out in the field, we start having
these prophetic, crazy, weird dreams and stuff. And so we're
all encouraged to like write down and journal and remember
what our dreams are because sometimes we get the most
prolific messages in our dreams, even out in the field.

(01:43:52):
And you know, and here's another thing too, is like
you know, we're surrounded by so much Wi fi, so
much EMF, and so much stuff here in our homes
you know, in the cities and even in the country,
if you got WiFi in your house, you know, you
got a lot of got a lot of interference going on.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
And when we go out into the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
I sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
I'm not a lie.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
It may not be all that comfortable sometimes, but I
sleep like a baby when I finally do sleep, because
there's nothing interfering out there. There's no phone service, there's
no E MF, there's no none of that stuff. And
so the dreams are magnificent.

Speaker 5 (01:44:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
And if you if you really want to go get
tuned in, go get get away from all this radiation
and frequency and stuff, you know. But we have very
prophetic dreams out there. And and I remember one night Tony,
my buddy, Tony, had had a dream and it was
about I think it was like Knox Magby or something
was in his dream. It's like he woke up saying

(01:44:49):
this name and we're like what he's like, who is
Knox Magbie? And Tree ended up looking it up and
it was like the Queen of the little people of
the night.

Speaker 4 (01:44:59):
WHOA, Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
What it was, not Magne if I'm not mistaken. I
think Trey ended up putting it in his book. But yeah,
it was one of the nights that we were out there.
We'd had a lot, we've done the CE five by
the way, that night, yeah, and it was the same
night it was in the day after. It was the
same night that I heard my voice say time travel
across the creek as well. Okay, so it just you

(01:45:24):
got it. You have to pay attention to these things
when you're out there researching, you know, don't just discount
it just because it's some crazy dream. No, it has
some kind of meaning to it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, And you're mentioning something about sound right now,
which reminds me.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
And then there was another particular night and it all
kind of even all these years going up there, it
all kind of just meshes into one and we all
kind of share how that that kind of happens.

Speaker 4 (01:45:47):
It's like, oh, what was this this year or that year?
But I'm getting better at like pinpointing the years and
stuff like that. But so from this cel the Ridge
Top site if if you go so, that's where the
road that'll take you down to the Patterson Gimblin site is.
And down at the there's a berm. Once you get

(01:46:09):
down the road a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
There's a berm there because back in the day he
used to be able to drive all the way down
to the creek and that was before my time. But
there was a huge slide there that happened, a rock slide,
which actually someone was at one point trying to get
through and got like in a bad, really bad position
due to that slide, and they burned off that area.

Speaker 4 (01:46:32):
So you can't drive there anymore. So we call that
spot the burm. There.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
There's a little fire pit and Taate Hironomous and I
did an overnight there just to check things out, you know,
And so we head there, had set up set up
our camp and you know, he eventually did a couple
of calls and some knocks nothing, you know, didn't get
any feedback.

Speaker 4 (01:46:53):
But what we did notice that night is a humming sound,
this weird vibrating humming sound. Okay, And I'm familiar with
this sound before. They actually call it in our area.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
They call it the humble hum and it's been yeah,
it's been reported before in different parts of the county.
And and we started hearing that and I was like, whoa,
and Tate's picking it up.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
So I'm like good Tate, who's pretty skeptical at times,
you're hearing that and uh and even in the morning,
you know, and not not much. Uh So that night
I got very little sleep for some reason. I was
pretty restless, and which is all good, but uh, right
before sunrise, I was just chilling. And that time I
slept in my truck.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
I wasn't in the in my tent, and so I
was able to see outside my truck window and I
could I had this feeling that something was out there,
and so I was just thrmin from my laying down
for my truck, so you couldn't really like tell if
anyone was looking and stuff. So I was like, oh, man,
this is a good position to be in in case
anything just creeps down the hill there. But uh, and

(01:47:57):
it's felt like something was gonna pop book but nothing,
nothing really happened.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
And advantage point we had a good vig Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (01:48:06):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
It was a good spot and in any way, so
nothing much happened there, but we got that weird humble
hum and it was going on in the morning also
and hopefully we were able to pick that up on audio.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
But yeah, that was like it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Could have been industrial or something like something coming from
inside the mountain, because you know, now the'se like deep
underground military bases and all sorts of weird.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
Stuff that comes up. Well, that came up.

Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
It's like it seems like something's like going on under
ground or something. You know, it's like, where is this
sound coming from? And so, yeah, people know about the
humble hum, and I've heard it's It's happened in other
areas as well. I'm sure there's people that will pop
up and mentioned that, Yeah they've heard that before, but yeah,
what's happening there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
I hear that a lot, actually, and we we've heard
I remember I used to hear that one. I used
to go to the Ghost Road down in Statesboro, Georgia, Georgia.
We would hear, uh, there was like an industrial hun
kind of and there were no industrial buildings around there
that I'm aware of, but it was something coming and
it was just a bunch of crop fields, you know,
like with some kind of tobacco or I don't even

(01:49:09):
know what kind of crops aid out there. It was
the middle of nowhere down in South Georgia. And yeah, ghost,
they had a real ghost on that right. We used
to go watch them walk back and forth across the
road at night. But but that hum we fair. I
think Farah had described that. The lady whose house we
went and research we did that investigation at the Skinwalker
Cave in Tennessee, they were having like a hum and

(01:49:32):
like all this industrial kind of stuff was kind of
like going on under their house, Like there was some
kind of maybe a train maybe it was one of
those bullet trains running under their house.

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
Yeah, you never know these days. It's a trip.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
My brother just showed me earlier today was this video
of like this underwater civilization. You've probably seen it's on Instagram.
If not, i'll send it to you, but it was.
It was trippy. It was like this video of these
people finding like who knows if it's real, but it
seems pretty legit. But there's all these like artifacts and
stuff and supposedly they're underwater and they're talking about civilization,

(01:50:06):
you know, underwater.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
Which which video was that?

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
Where?

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
What location was that?

Speaker 1 (01:50:11):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
I forget who posted it. I'm not big on the Instagram,
but I'll get it to you. But it's like, yeah,
they're just showing these different it would look like artifacts
and stuff and they're supposedly underwater, and it looked interesting
and for my brother to show me, you know, it's
you know, it's it got his attention, so it'll get mine.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
So yeah, I'll send that up.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Oka finally send it to me. I'm always into that
kind of stuff. I mean, even with like the tsunami,
the earthquake that habit in Russia and it had like
the tsunami and stuff like I can't remember where somewhere
over on the over on the West coast, it seems
like they had some kind of I want to say,
petroglyphs under the water or something, or some something similar
to that that had never been seen before. They said,

(01:50:54):
when the water had receded, a lot of a lot
of ancient stuff was being exposed.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Well, you know, you and I know Jessica that you know,
you just say old world. You know, there's a lot
of stuff going on underground, underwater in the skies. You know,
it's all over It's a trip and I love getting
into it. Yeah and so yeah, So moving a little
bit forward, a lot of people started to leave. We did,

(01:51:19):
you know, quite a bit of everyone was doing the
recordings and stuff like that, doing their thing and sharing
you know, stories and things that were possibly happening. And
you know, like I said, just bumping around different areas.
So I ended up todd samples from Bigfoot Wilderness research.

(01:51:39):
Please check out the channel. Man, he deserves a lot
more action over on his channel. And you know, I
know it's been a little tough for him and and
I know for some of us getting into the YouTube,
we're not all schooled, Like I'm not. I'm learning still
how to like make videos, how to post, you know, how.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
To work all these yeah and then night. Yeah, so
we could all use a little help and and you know,
I'm willing to help eever it can.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
And but no, he deserves a lot more action over
on his channel. And uh, and he's made a lot
of amazing finds from that area. Like I mentioned that
the trackway and stuff and which people still question, you know,
and and so he gets you know, he gets uh.

Speaker 4 (01:52:22):
I don't want to say ridicule, but like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:25):
People question his stuff too, And I don't know, just
spending time with Todd this time around, We've got to
spend several days together going towards the end of the
trip there, and like I said, he he goes to
a lot of different areas that we haven't explored before
and stuff like that, and areas that people that I
haven't been to that people have mentioned and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
So I was really excited. And so Todd just really
showed me a lot of new more places, a lot
of places where he had sightings and activity and things
happen and and so that's super cool because not not
everyone is willing to share that with you, you know,
their locations where things are happening. You know, they people
got to you know, trust you on a certain level

(01:53:08):
and stuff. And uh, and I just felt honored to yeah,
to be a part of that. And yeah, we found
some interesting stuff you know that we'll be bringing out
and no, no full on tracks, but a lot of
impressions which a lot of times could be bear and
stuff like that. But uh, some tree brakes that we're
finding in the area, which once again could be bare

(01:53:29):
also but you know, we'll get into it. We'll explain
hopefully soon in some of these videos. And yeah, also
we haven't shown your pictures to check that out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
So this is in an area where Todd had found
and we had to like repel down. Someone had commented
on I posted in a shorts video and uh, we
had to repel down and actually it doesn't look like
it on the video. Some guy was commenting he's from
the area too. He's like, oh, I could have walked
down that, but really you couldn't have. You'd fall flat
on your face.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
But we used the rope to get down in this
area where Todd had found he said, some of the
best tracks ever. But his dog was with them, and
when they brought the dog down to the area, the
dog stepped all over the tracks and ruined them. Yeah,
and anyway, we had gone this time again and he
showed us and this is an area where I know

(01:54:22):
people don't go normally, don't go. Like I said, we
had to use a rope to get down here.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
And as we're going to the area to check out
where he had found those tracks, I find this what
looks like a perfect I mean X is what stood
out at me at first, But when you look at
it a little further, there's another X that's more natural,
possibly because it was like full on trees. But this
X that you see here in the beginning is two
broken trees, which okay, a person could put that together. Yeah,

(01:54:52):
but I don't see why someone would I mean, unless
Todd did it the time he went down and found
the tracks and everything. I don't see why a person
would put an X down there like that, and then
you got these other x is behind it. And actually
right before I found that X there, uh, there was
a small one on the ground which really got my attention.
And sometimes that's how it happens. It'll be something small

(01:55:15):
and subtle on the ground, a little lean on a tree,
or a small little ground glyph what I think maybe
a ground glyph, and then next to it you'll have
something bigger. And I thought that was pretty cool to
find that there. So we didn't find any tracks, but
we found this X down there, and the bigfoots do it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
I don't know, I think it's possible. Yeah, good, I know.
Once again, structure guy. For me to find this, it
was it was just cool, you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
Know, I love it, you know, and bigfoots do do
this stuff, okay, And and does look woven to me?
It looks like they've been kind of placed. They've been
placed there.

Speaker 4 (01:55:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
It could could be natural, but that's just a lot
of innerwoven sticks.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Yeah, well, did the stuff behind it could be natural.
But the two broken trees there, it wasn't. You could
tell they were placed there, and you know there were
of course the picture doesn't you know, it was pretty
big size, good size.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
I can see I.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Can see that broken stick up there in the front
and it's upside you know. That's it looks like this
was made. Okay, this is intentional. Yeah, some sort of
intentional structure there.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
Yeah, and it was cool, you know, right along the creek,
you know, the waters running by there, and yeah, I
thought it was a good fight. And you know, a
lot of times I'll put it out you know, put
it out there, like give me something, you know, anything,
you know, whatever, a pile of poop, even, you know, I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
Give me some poop, good movies, a yeah, but uh yeah,
it give me something. And that's what we find. You know,
it's just like wow, cool.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
You know, maybe it's nothing, you know, with some people,
it's probably nothing to them, but for me, it was
significant and just how it all played out, and it's
just awesome and so thankful for that. And yeah, there's
some other structures that will be showing from the area
that we found.

Speaker 4 (01:57:05):
You know, possibly this is the red Yeah, this one
was in the redwoods along our way here to Bluff Creek.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
This was a spot where I found the structure the
previous year, and this time when I came around to it,
it had changed to a completely different style.

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
And this again is a broken tree there. You can
see the end of it, and it's propped up against
some tree there, and then you got a little like
half a tepee. And on the other side of it
is a creek, I think it's a bull creek, which
will take you into the.

Speaker 3 (01:57:37):
What is it Rockefeller Forest. And anyway, it's facing a
way like this is an area. It's just like a
little rest area right around there. And so people, like
someone in the comments left me was like, oh, well
that's just people, you know, pranking and hoaxing and stuff.
And anyway, on the other side of it, you could
see it was just like they cleared out where they

(01:57:58):
had sat. It looked like some of that sat there,
and there's a bunch of small broken sticks and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:58:03):
It just looked like, uh, who knows, maybe Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Was chilling there facing away where the people are, you know,
facing away from the people, or maybe spying on the
people from there.

Speaker 2 (01:58:13):
It's a good vantage point you know what actually. Okay,
so last week, I know, Keith came on the show
and Keith was like, oh, all of the all structures
like this are man made, right, Yeah, that's that's his opinion.
I think it just all depends bigfoots can make them
as well. Okay, I think I think it. I think
it all depends depends on how big it is. And
I mean that that would be Listen, if I were

(01:58:34):
in an apocalyptic situation, that would be a perfect lean
to you right there, a debris hut with a vantage
point to see.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
When the enemy is approaching. Okay, and I think that
is but I think a bigfoot would use it for
the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:47):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
Yeah, And I don't think that it's like uh like,
like I said, I don't think it's like shelter, because
you could walk in I've shown, uh, you could walk
into some of these redwoods and it'll completely you know, shelter,
you the element. So why not just walk into a redwood?
Why build something? I think it takes quite a bit
of an effort to gather all that material and to

(01:59:09):
put that together. I mean, yeah, you could, It's totally possible.
And yeah, I got I could go on and on
about the structures, but I thought it was a fun
fine and to rearray before it was a small little tepe,
I think it was. And I do have footage of
it from the previous year, and I like to, like,
you know, keep follow up with you know, how things
are changing, what's happening in these areas, and so.

Speaker 4 (01:59:29):
Yeah, a little rearrangement of that there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
And not too far from there is a huge one
of my very BlackBerry spots. There's a huge BlackBerry bush there.
You know, you have the Eel river running through there
and just all the elements that you need for a
bigfoot to be around.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
And right before I forget, I know we're coming to
the end here, but I wanted to mention the berries.
A whole lot of berries were popping off and I
love berry picking. And last year we found some mushrooms
up in the lous Camp area around there somewhere, but yeah,
Chantrell's and it was amazing. Had an amazing meal with them,
and actually amazing meal this time. Rowdy Kelly again brought

(02:00:09):
through some elk that is Dad I believe hunted or
something like that, but he made some elk spaghetti for
us and that was awesome. But the berries plentiful red huckleberries, yo.
Salmon berries them.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
Salmonberries yas that's what Fred Roll would told me that
that's people ended up picking salmon berries in Alaska and
that's when they have the big foot encounters. I've forgotten
about salmon berries.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
Yeah, salmon berries, yeah, yeah, not bad. The thimbleberries are
amazing too, And that was like kind of like getting
mixed up with my berries, and you know, some people
were correcting me and stuff. I get to look a
few sometimes, but let's see what was the other one.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
So the red huckleberry, huckleberries, wild strawberries, little tiny tasty things,
and there's just so much yummy stuff to eat up there,
you know, it's amazing. And the blackberries were a little
more like riper at the bottom of the hill I
noticed as to where the top. I guess maybe the
timing for that, maybe they get a little riper later

(02:01:10):
up further up on the hill there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
But man, it was berries all over the place. My
hands were all stained. And yeah, we did a little test,
you know, they say, you go, uh, A lot of
people go missing picking berries sometimes and and so we
give it a test, you know, we did it around
four pm, where supposedly a lot of people go missing
around that time.

Speaker 4 (02:01:31):
So we were out there. I was out there solo
picking huckleberries, red huckleberries and watching my back playing a
dangerous game.

Speaker 2 (02:01:39):
Brown, he is playing a dangerous game. Be careful with that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
You knew what you were doing.

Speaker 4 (02:01:47):
Yeah, that is that is dangerous.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
You tie a rope around your waist. Uh no, somebody
can play you.

Speaker 4 (02:01:55):
No, no, but I'd notified people where I'm going to be,
you know, take all the cautions. And yeah, you do
not do.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
What he did, y'all. Okay, leave it to the professionals. Okay,
and I would consider you a professional when it comes is.
You have done your research on it, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:02:15):
Thank you. I cry, and so yeah, I got a
little feedback. Yeah, yeah, we didn't go. We didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:02:22):
I don't know if we went missing fully, but uh
and then so eventually, you know, sadly, we had to
leave eventually. And then so Todd Samples ended up staying
because his wife ended up coming up.

Speaker 4 (02:02:34):
And I believe he was. He told me when I
got back.

Speaker 3 (02:02:37):
He was like, hey, I had I think he said
he had his nephew or some family member with them
and they were at the watering hole at the water hole,
and that they were hearing some like a monkey chatter. Yeah,
so they got some monkey chatter going on after we left,
and I was like, all right, cool man. So you
got a little bit of action.

Speaker 4 (02:02:56):
It wasn't too bad because we're all kind of, you know,
a little bummed out. We want to some roaring and
maybe some bluff charges and you know, you want the
full on action, but it's it was pretty subtle, but
there was some stuff happening. So again, thank you Jessica
for letting me in a chair man.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
This has been so exciting.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Listen, this is This has been so exciting because I'm
I First of all, I commend you for going out
there for two whole weeks to do some research that
is not common these days, especially you know a lot
of us. It's hard to find the time to do it,
first of all, but the dedication, you know, and I
would I would love to be able to do that,
to be able to go and immerse yourself within the environment.

(02:03:38):
This is where the Patterson Gimlin film was made, y'all. Okay,
and this is Bigfoot history right here, and so I
think it's amazing for you to get such great evidence too.
I mean just even being in your tent and having
the wherewithal to grab your your video camera to get
your phone or whatever you recorded that with, to have that,

(02:03:59):
I mean, that is amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:04:00):
I'm glad it all worked out. And uh again, Jessica,
you're welcome. You know when you're gonna come up and
make some big Foot history with us up there at
Love Creezy.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Girl, I'm listen, I'm coming. I'm coming up.

Speaker 3 (02:04:15):
There, guys, and you know, I'm sure you'll have some
fun and uh maybe you'll you'll get a sighting. Uh maybe, yeah,
maybe you'll you'll bring them out, Jessica.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
I always bring out the high strangers. I don't know
everybody ended up getting abducted if I go up there.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
Yeah, yeah, right too.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
Oh my gosh, thank you for the invite. I'll definitely
on that for sure to come down to Georgia too. Listen,
we got just as much activity down here.

Speaker 3 (02:04:44):
Yes, I've mentioned I've driven through once and I fell
in love. You know, I was like, and it was
during a colorful time a year and I was like wow,
and I got this vibe and it was Georgia and
I was like, yeah, Tennessee, I got that vibe too,
and uh too bad. I was in a full on
uh into big footing at the time, but I got
this feeling there. I also got the feeling in Oklahoma too, like, oh,

(02:05:06):
the area was stopped and I was like, oh, this
is a vibe here.

Speaker 4 (02:05:09):
There's something going on and you could be that these
you know beings are around. So uh.

Speaker 3 (02:05:15):
Yeah, I wanted to thank everyone also for that, you know,
we connected with up there, and yeah, I think my
my family as well and and uh my uh subscribers,
the members, y'all made this possible as well, and everyone involved,
the supporting and and we appreciate it. I want to
say thank you from my heart.

Speaker 2 (02:05:39):
And well, thank you for sharing your encounters with us
tonight and uh and for just sharing sharing everything that
you experienced out there and that means a lot to us.
And uh, I can't wait to see some of these
documentaries your friends are making about the whole trip and
it's it's it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:05:58):
Yeah, come on through, We'll make one. Jessica is making sure.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
I'm just glad you made it out of there in
one piece. Okay, I am.

Speaker 2 (02:06:06):
And uh, you know the whole thing about your your truck,
like waking up with your truck like something sitting down.
Was that you said that was out there or was
that in a different Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:06:16):
That was the area. Yeah, Layered Meadow and Laird Meadow's
got history.

Speaker 3 (02:06:21):
You know, some of the guys were finding tracks there
back in the day and stuff, and yeah, it's got
its history there, and yeah it's super trippy, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:06:29):
And again you know, pay attention to that stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
Yeah, so you you didn't have to track through the
river to get to that spot this time, right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:37):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that's like it's
like mission impossible. So yeah, no, we got to rethink
that whole mission and start from above that area because
that area is all washed out from the sixty four flood.
So and that's why they say there's no more actually
salmon runs that go up Bluff Creek, So keep that

(02:06:59):
in mind.

Speaker 4 (02:07:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:07:01):
You know, I think if the salmon were around, maybe
they would be more activity. But we know we or
we've heard of possible activity in these other creek areas
that do have the salmon running.

Speaker 4 (02:07:13):
So I think the fishing too, along with the berries
mushrooms and other edibles.

Speaker 2 (02:07:20):
If I if I was a bigfoot living up there,
I would definitely live near where there's salmon. I love salmon, yeah,
and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:07:30):
Oh yeah, that's the good eating there. And I'm all
about salmon.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Yeah, I guess that's what we have so many big
foots up in the mountains of North Georgia.

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
We have trout. Oh yeah, lots of trout.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
Yeah, you go, trout fishing. Shoot. My dad has a
place up there, and they keep the river, the river
stocked with trout. They cheat.

Speaker 4 (02:07:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, I stock some of these places, and
I get you know, the fish, you know, they we
need to help out too, because we've been messing stuff
up and yeah, so we got to play a part.

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
And that's what I love about this too, learning about
all that. And then recently the Klamath River has made
some changes. The dam has been opened back up, so
that's big for a lot of the native peoples in
that area.

Speaker 4 (02:08:13):
So yeah, yeah, you know, check that out, folks. You'll
hear some of that in the Salor's Sasquatch documentary.

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
Yes, oh my gosh, I can't wait to check out
these documentaries. And well until we get some documentaries out.
You have been documenting a lot over on your YouTube channel.
Tell the audience about your YouTube channel. Anything you'd like
to promote tonight, put it out there.

Speaker 4 (02:08:34):
Thank you, Jess and dog Davis, Aloha Brada. Yeah, you
can find me.

Speaker 3 (02:08:39):
The handle is at big or at brown Dwarf, which
is the old ak Brown Dwarf four two zero zero,
and that should take you to the channel, or just
look up Bigfoot Dwarf and hopefully the channel will pop
up for you there. And there's links on that to
other platforms which I haven't been too active on, but yeah,
come find me on YouTube. And I love to support

(02:09:00):
people as well, So if you got something going on
and you know, bring it to my attention, I'd love
to abscribe other people and support other people as well.
And yeah, we appreciate your support again also and much
love to everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here.
Are you still active on TikTok too. You had a
big old tik talk channel.

Speaker 4 (02:09:20):
Yeah, and you know they're kind of weird. I was
just remixing the old like big Foot videos and throwing
in some of my stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:09:26):
So I haven't been too active there, but yeah, no, no, no,
we're going to get back over there at some point
and start you know, all the little platforms and Instagram
and all that.

Speaker 4 (02:09:35):
We'll eventually get there. I'm all over the place.

Speaker 3 (02:09:38):
I'm kind of a hot mess sometimes, but you know,
we make it happen.

Speaker 2 (02:09:44):
I'm the same way, okay. And I actually were talking
about how your phone has been so full of your
storage is full of minus jam packed. I have had
to sacrifice my TikTok appy and so I haven't been
posted on TikTok because I just don't have room on
my phone, and so I've just I think the last
time I posted there was like two months ago or
later longer.

Speaker 4 (02:10:03):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (02:10:04):
So that's what I had to do to get there,
a little bit of footage on my phone. Luckily I
got some some stuff to bring back. Is I had
to offload all my apps and all this stuff. It was, yeah,
crazy mess.

Speaker 2 (02:10:17):
The same Okay. Well I'm glad I'm not the only
one that had to deal with that. Okay, So we
just we just do a lot of content. I know
I put a lot of content out there all the time,
So I feel you, but but yeah, thank you again
so much. Be foot door for being here. You're the best,
and I hope you'll come back and hang out with
me again. You and I always we have some good conversations.
We do some really fun shows together, so all time. Yeah,

(02:10:40):
we're gonna have to get out in the woods together.

Speaker 1 (02:10:42):
Magic.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
Yeah, we'll do it. Oh, it's gonna happen for sure.
We'll definitely do it. Within within the year.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
We're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:50):
Okay, Okay, Well, you stay safe out there, Okay, please
stay safe and always keep us posted on everything that's
going on there and even with the.

Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
Dog man stuff and whatever you hear any.

Speaker 4 (02:11:04):
Kind of reports, Yeah, believe me.

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
Welcome back here anytime.

Speaker 4 (02:11:08):
I'll get to you.

Speaker 3 (02:11:09):
Yeah, if I hear anything, I'll be Yeah, stay tuned
for some of the lives, y'all. And so we'll be
cleaning up our computers and all that soff I can't
even my laptop's all full now too. I was like,
oh my god, I didn't think I was going to
be able to use my laptop, but luckily have pulled
this off.

Speaker 4 (02:11:26):
But we're gonna I'm gonna have to run to garyl
and ask for help. Yes, ye Garret help. Midwest Night
Watchers in the chat here, there's much h Yeah, Dane
and GARYL love you too.

Speaker 1 (02:11:41):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
Yes. Okay, well, you guys go and support Bigfoot Dwarf.
Go subscribe over on his YouTube channel. And you guys,
thank you so much everybody who's here in the chat tonight.
This has been a fantastic show, super awesome. I knew
it would be.

Speaker 1 (02:11:57):
It always is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
Okay, and okay, well you guys please come back and
see me on what is today Saturday?

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
So this will be Monday. I will be back. Oh.

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
By the way, I have a brand new guest who's
not been on the show before. We have Bob Kohley
coming on. And uh and I just I was looking
at his business card. I met him at the World
UFO conference talking about super soldiers. This is this might
be a real super soldier he actually has. He's a
robotics engineer. Okay, And let's see what are his companies.
Interplanetary Trading Company is the name of his actual business,

(02:12:28):
Interplanetary Trading Company, and also Global Robotics Corporation. Okay, and
we're gonna be getting into Space Force, actual super soldier,
real super soldier programs and intergalactic stuff. On Monday is
going to blow your socks off, y'all, and I think
you're gonna love it. Okay, Yeah, it's gonna be different.

(02:12:48):
I think James Rink might have interviewed Bob a couple
of weeks ago, and but we're gonna we're gonna sit
down with him and have some really far out conversations.
I guess you could say.

Speaker 1 (02:13:00):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:13:00):
So y'all come back and see me at one pm
on Monday, Okay, and all right, big fun.

Speaker 4 (02:13:06):
Dwarf MK Ultrust salute, Yeah you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:13:12):
Yeah, oh yeah. Thank y'all so much for being here.
I want to thank everybody who gave super Sigars tonight
and MPW and LINEZ and Kent. Thank y'all so much
for all the support, and thank you to all my
moderators for being here tonight and uh and to everybody
who's in the chat. We have the best live chat
on the internet, and this has been a fantastic Saturday night, y'all.
Please be safe out there, but don't live in fear, okay,
and I hope everybody learned a little something tonight and

(02:13:34):
hope y'all enjoyed the show. All right, Bidorf, We'll see
you next time. Y'all have a great night, and I
will see y'all on Monday. All right, y'all, have a
great night. I can find my buttons. My computer is frozen. Okay,
here we go, all right, see y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:13:49):
Bye.

Speaker 4 (02:14:15):
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