Tennessee Cryptid Ambush, Giants, Vampires & the Epic of Esau with Doc Brown

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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, good even everybody. It's the crimpted high Dress. I'm
Jessica Jones. Thank you guys so much for being here tonight.
I hope you're all doing great, and I hope y'all
had a wonderful week. Man, it's been a great week.
And uh, you know, we had such an interesting show
last Saturday night with Mark Meechak aka Cryptoville and uh
and I saw a couple of people in the chat

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on Saturday night mentioning Esau and it was so wild
because I had scheduled for the show tonight, my buddy
mister Justin dot Brown from Prometheus Lens Podcast, I've got
him here in the studio tonight and we're going to
be talking about Esau in addition to his bigfoot adventures

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and a whole bunch of other stuff. Giants, Noah from
the Bible and his wife they might have been giants.
I think they were giants actually, So we're going to
get into a lot of giant talk tonight and it's
going to be a giant of a show tonight for
all of y'all. And uh, and so thank you to
all my moderators for being here tonight. Thank you to
everybody in the chat and for all your support. I

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It means the world to me. Okay, well, let's get
to our show tonight, because gosh, I was just talking
with Doc backstage. We have so many amazing topics y'all
to get into tonight. So tonight we have justin Doc
Brown call him Doc, a Prometheus Lens podcast. We're going

(03:53):
to be talking about his Bigfoot adventures. We actually got
to meet up back in May at Operations Smoke and Uh.
And of course we've had we've had Doc on the
show before with our crew that went out on that operation,
and we're gonna talk a little bit about that tonight.
I've in East Tennessee. But we're going to talk about
that and get into the story of Esau. He has

(04:14):
written a book about Esau, which was a possible big
photo while Man in the Bible, and his podcast, Prometheus
Lens podcast examines everything from creation, evolution, paranormal all the
way to conspiracy theories and it's definitely a hero's journey.
You guys, please help me. Welcome to the show, mister

(04:34):
Doc Brown, Hey Dot.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Thank you, Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Of course, thank you for being here. It's so good
to have you back.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh yeah, it's good to be back. Last time we
had we had a gaggle of people.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
We did. We had a full screen. We couldn't have
fit anybody else on that screen. When I had you.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
On Brady Bunch, it.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Was it was the dysfunctional Brady Bunch crew there. That
was awesome. That was a lot of fun. But yeah,
we went up to East Tennessee and did some big footing.
What did you think about that? Was that your first
big foot excursion?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
It was my first overnight. I went with Harley a
couple of times at that same place, but we went
during the day and he showed me around and showed
me some things. And of course we've seen some of
the x's and some of the little teepee uh fixtures
and some footprints and stuff, some pretty cool stuff during
the day. But that was my first time going there

(05:32):
overnight and camped out for the weekend. So yeah, it
was pretty cool. It was the interesting experience to say
the least.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, yeah, it was. Well, you you actually had your
your camera out there, you were videoing some some footage
out there, and you had a really great video you
put together of all that like a little a little
documentary docuseries. I guess, I don't know, I don't know
what you call it, uh, but but that was pretty impressive.
You're really good at, uh making documentaries.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, thank you, I appreciate Youah, I got some great footage.
It's just piecing it all together and having the time
to do it. So I'm slowly still piecing that thing together.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, it's awesome. It's awesome. Well, you guys. I didn't
get to go out there on Saturday night with y'all,
but you guys had some pretty intense, you know, experiences
out there, and thank goodness, you got it all documented.
But but I mean, were you ever worried. It was
something that seemed to run up in the camp with
you guys.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I had some like you know,
weary moments, you know, just kind of like oh gosh,
and all the guys that we were setting up that
bait trap, and we was all gathered around it, you know,
spread out probably sixty yards a piece, in a circle
around it. We had one group that just kept turning
their lights on and off, on and off, and finally
they come across the radio. There's like, we're freaking the

(06:54):
hell out we're here, and stuff all around as it
feels like someone's standing right over top of us, and
just everybody scared. We're getting out of here. I was like,
oh my god, you know what's going on down there.
But it was later when we got back. We were
sitting around the fire and I pulled out the camera
and we were talking about, you know, what we'd seen
for the weekend and people telling their experiences. And I

(07:14):
was doing even doing some one on ones, you know,
telling people to tell me their big foot en counters
and stories and stuff. And while I was interviewing Kevin, Uh,
everything just popped off. You know. Kevin was in the
middle of telling one of his stories, and all of
a sudden, we just heard this this holler, and I
caught it all on the film, and Kevin's even like

(07:35):
looking up like we're hearing some strange noises right now.
And then it done it again. It done it like
eight or nine times in a row, and caught it
all on camera. And it was wild because it was
like after the second one, you could see everybody on
the camera kind of gathering around. You just heard all
the guns. Just you heard Hardy that wouldn't it f

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and dear boys, and they took off through the wood
trying to find it, and uh, they've seen some orbs
and all kind of crazy stuff trying to figure out
where this sound was coming from. So yeah, everything really
kind of popped off Saturday.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, that place, that place was wild. Uh really when
it's the first thing that I noticed when I pulled
in down there was like a big old cemetery, an
old cemetery, and hardly talked about the dog Man's sightings
around there and in the bigfoots, and I got to
tell you, I was impressed. I was definitely impressed with
that place. And I've been doing Bigfoot research for a
long time, and uh so, yeah, I was. I was

(08:34):
super stoked that he actually took us out there to that.
I don't normally take groups of people out to a
lot of my you know, our research areas and stuff,
and so I was super grateful for that, uh that
he had us out there and we had some that's
some really interesting experiences. I felt like I was being
watched the whole time I was out there. You can
ask Drew Skie. I was like not comfortable going out

(08:57):
to you know, string away too far late at night
from everybody you know, and stuff like that, if you
know what I mean. It was. It was poor down
rain actually that.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Night that I was there, but that was Friday the time.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, it was Friday night, Friday night.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I went back for that. I hung out all day Friday,
but I went back because I had an interview that night.
So then I came back Saturday and stayed Saturday through Sunday.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
We just missed each other. We got to we got
to meet each other hangouts. Yeah, it was good. Yeah,
we've got we've got some more stuff playing with them
with that crew, and yeah, should be fun. Undisclosed locations,
undisclosed times you'll never know. You'll never know till we
get done and we get out of the field. But uh,
but yeah, that's awesome. And everybody made it out alive.

(09:44):
That's always good. And we had some newbies out there
as well who may have never had a real big
food experience until that. I mean that that's actually pretty
special going out there, not not going bigfooting before, and
then having all that activity the first time you go.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right, I think Carly's life was changed after that.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's kind of like what
got me into the big footing. I guess I kind
of got hooked into it right off the back because
the first time I ever went big footing, I had
so much activity out there. We as a team, we
had so much activity. I couldn't I couldn't walk away
from it. After that weekend, I was like it got
its claws in me, you know what I mean. It's

(10:25):
like I would I needed more. I wanted to go
explore more.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
After that, It doesn't it honestly just put some excitement,
you know, back in your life. It's like, as adults,
we get caught a lot of times in our little
rat wheel of just going to work, paying our bills
coming back home. It's just you know, groundhog Day, like
that movie, you know, all over again, same stuff every
single day. So when you actually get to go on
adventure and get some excitement, man, it makes you reminds

(10:51):
you that you're alive. So it's like that's a very
addicted feeling.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It is, you know. I remember saying that. On last Saturday,
I had my buddy Mark Maychack aka Cryptonville was here
with me and uh, and we were talking about We
got in a bunch of different conversations that night, but uh,
but I did tell the audience, you know, if you
want to, if you need to like change up your energy,
You're like, you know, keep keep some zests in your life.
Do something that scares the hell out of you at

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least once a year. Just do it once a year,
you know, and uh, and keep your life spicy and
exciting and uh and it can it can. It can
change your life, Okay, But don't do anything too dangerous
if you don't want to. Okay. Mark was like, yeah,
jump out of an airplane. I was like, I don't
know about that. Uh, but going bigfooting, man, that's it's

(11:39):
exhiliarating It's definitely exhilarating.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's a good excuse to just to go camping.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I know, right, That's what I like to do too,
just get out in the woods and uh and go
searching for these wild men and stuff. And Okay, So
before you ever even went out with with Harley and
wanted to get out in the woods and go explore Bigfoot,
were you looking into East Hau? I mean, how did
you get into How did you get interested in the
Bigfoot phenomenon to begin with?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Honestly, it was just a joke, like a caddy joke
amongst friends. I knew of Bigfoot, and but I just
kind of had the thirty thousand foot view, you know.
I knew about the what was it? I can't think
of the name. Now the people in this audience is
going to slaughter me. What was its name? Patterson Giblin, Oh, Patty,

(12:32):
Patty Patty. I knew about the Patty video, and I
heard some experiences and stuff like that, but I'd never
really I wasn't what you would call it bigfoot enthusiast.
I didn't really listen to all the podcasts and read
all the literature. I just kind of had a general overview.
But I was talking with Trey Smith from Gotten a
Nutshell on a show and I had one of my

(12:52):
buddies there, Steve, and he is what you would call
a bigfoot enthusiast, and he's like, you guys are from Eastonnessee.
That's big foot country. Next time i'm down that way,
I'll holler at you guys and we'll go bigfoot hunting
and we'll film it. And I was like, yeah, man,
come on down. And it was weird. Just out of
know where, Genesis twenty five, twenty five popped into my head.

(13:13):
For those that's unfamiliar with that, it says the first
one came out red, covered in hair from head to
toe like a Harry Cloak. And I heard this story
of this man named Esaw majority of my life. I
grew up in church since I was five six years old,
but I never looked at it like that. And then
for some reason that day, It's like, man, that sounds

(13:33):
pretty squatchy to me. So then I said to Tray,
I said, what about Esau? He just kind of looked
at me like he was confused, and I'm like, bigfoot, right,
I mean, do you think maybe he was the first
documented Bigfoot. It says that he was covered in hair,
you know, and he was like, I, you may be
onto something. He said, he was definitely a hair you do,
that's for sure. And it was like maybe a week

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or two later, I had Gary Wayne on the show
and we were going over the epic of Gilgamesh and
bumping this guy named Inky Doo covered in hair from
head to toe, also known as the Mighty Hunter, just
like Esau. And I'm like, here's another one of these
sasquatch looking dudes. And it's just one thing led to another.
I kept finding all these hairy people like in ancient

(14:20):
Mesopotamia and in the Bible, and I was like, man,
I have to search this out. So then it sent
me on a two year rabbit trail.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh my gosh. You know, actually, I've been studying wildman
for a while and we have lost reports of wild
men and giants. Okay, I know this is it's almost
like a what I've noticed is in I'm going to
say modern day Okay, even though it's like the eighteen
hundreds and nineteen hundreds, like modern day sightings of some

(14:53):
people would consider some of these beings that they were
reporting in newspapers and stuff, newspaper clippings these wild men,
some of them were bigfoots and other times there were giants.
And some of the stories get really kind of there's
like a gray area there, Like let's say, like sukaaloo
up and shoot a cola up in North Carolina. A
lot of times that story sounds like a bigfoot, But

(15:16):
to me, it sounds like a giant, like a giant human.
And I think there may be like some kind of
weird mix, like I don't know, it's like a gray
area because half the people think it's a giant, half
people think it's a bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I think they're one of the same. I think it's
you know, tomato tomato. It's all on the person who
sees it and what they've decided to call it. If
you look to do all the research that I'd done,
I think if if any person of the like the
ancient levant, like when you're reading the Bible, there's lots
of giants in your Bible. But I believe what we

(15:50):
call today a sasquatch, the ancients would have just called
a feral giant. Because as I got to reading this
and studying on this guy, thanks to people like Gary
Wayne that actually nerded out and went through like the
genealogies of the Bible, because that's something a lot of
people look over because it's boring, you know this one,

(16:11):
but got this one and lived one hundred and twenty
years and went to be with his relatives. So, but
he got to dig in and found out that two
because Esau had three wives, but two of those three
wives were from Nephelum giant clans from the whole Riots
and the he of Ates. And one of his father
in laws was named Sierra. And when you go into

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the etymology of that word, that word means Harry. So
his father in law's name was Harry, and he reigned
from the land of Mount Sier. So even the mountain
was named Harry Mountain after him. And they were known giants.
So here you have this Harry Giant, his daughter's marrying

(16:57):
and interbreeding with this Harry quota unquote man named Esau,
and they bred. So you could easily assume that there
would be some strange pups from that union pups. Yeah,
But when you go down through that genealogyal genealogical line,
you find that from the loins of Esau into these

(17:18):
giant clans, bursts a Malik who in turn burst the
malak Kite race, and once again you go into the
etymology of that name that means the blood liquors.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Oh my oh okay, yeah, that's wild. Oh my gosh.
You know I'm thinking too, like bring it back up
to modern day again, if you want to call it
modern day, you know, talking about like I brought up
suk Aloo while ago, and that was a some people,
like I said, some say of sasquatch, and others say

(17:53):
that that was a giant human. And you know, he
was said to have had a human girlfriend, Okay, human girlfriend.
And it's kind of common to hear about giants. It's
even like the redheaded giants here, like the Lovelock Cave
giants out in Nevada for instance, taking and I think

(18:15):
those were humans. But like having like giant humans kind
of not sasquatch, okay, is what I'm trying to say here,
but having like human regular size, like our regular size.
I think we're the little people, by the way, but
having like a female human girlfriend or taking them in
or even kidnapping. Sasquatch and giants have been known to

(18:36):
kidnap women and children and appropriate with them in the
modern day is in the last two.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Hundred years, Oh yeah, there's all kinds of ledges, like
from the Solomon Islands about giants and raiding the villages
and taking the women and breeding with them and then
they come back pregnant and have this you know, harry
baby and things like that even to this day.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Oh my god. Wow. Yeah, you know, it's it's kind
of a strange topic to kind of get into too,
with like humans inter breeding with sasquatch and you know,
we have different types of sasquatch actually, and uh. And
as you're you're talking about that, I was thinking about
this chart that we have here. Uh there. I think
there's some better charts out there, but this is one
of them. And the type four it's actually type four

(19:23):
where's fours at the top up there, and uh. And
that would be like the neanderthal type of of bigfoots
and the ones that look more human, they're like the
wild man types of of sasquatch. And there's been a
lot of those throughout history. And my friend M. K. Davis,
he was on the show about three weeks ago, two
weeks ago, three weeks ago. And uh, he he's done

(19:45):
a lot of research, especially on the Patterson Gimblin film
and Patty and and he's I've had the the privilege
of seeing him live give a presentation on that and
and he talks about how Patty could have been a
result like that type that type four is a result
of like some kind of more primate like sasquatch interbreeding

(20:07):
with a human basically, and that's the result of of
that that that type of bigfoot or wild man.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
And nothing news under the sun. You know, that's something
that even from like the biblical point of view was
Genesis six. You know that the sons of God came
down bread with the dollars of men and made Nephlom giants.
So you're corrupting the DNA, the genome of God's image,
and so you get these mutations and the random I

(20:39):
think sometimes I think that's why we see so much
crazy stuff. It's like we have elongated skulls, we have
hairy quote unque quote unquote men, we have giants, Uh,
just all this craziness. I think it's because, yeah, because
you just have this a row gene inserted into the

(21:03):
human genome and It just manifests in different ways. I
even talk about it kind of half heartedly in the book.
I believe it kind of rings true to What's It
Michael J. Fox and Teen Wolf. You remember that scene
where he's been slowly changing in this werewolf, but he

(21:24):
splashes water on his face and does all this stuff
to stop the transition. But this one time there was
a full moon and he started changing and he couldn't
stop it, and he was in the bathroom. You remember all that.
Harris sprouted out his nails blue along He's like, jeez, Louise,
and his dad starts beating on the door and he's like,
let me in, son. He's like, my dad, you don't

(21:45):
want to see me right now. And he's like, yeah, son,
opened the door. There's nothing you could do that make
me not love you. And he opens the door and
he's expecting his dad to freak out, and then there's
his dad standing there fully wolfed out to oh my gosh, dad,
you knew this whole time and you didn't tell me.
And he's like, some this type of thing skips generations sometimes.

(22:09):
He said, we're hoping it just skipped you. I think
that was kind of a tail Tale right there. I
think there's a lot of truth in that A.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Were wolf coming of age story. That was a great movie. Yeah,
I was bringing up the other day. I brought up
the Michael Jackson scene and Thriller where he turns into
a were wolf. And if you examine that he's actually
a were cat, it's more like a cat, not a
not a wolf that he turns into. So, I don't know,

(22:39):
I love I love were wolves, story about them. I
don't want to meet one. I don't know. I actually
have were wolves in the chat right now. I think Okay,
I happened. Seriously, I've been contacted by some some people
who are really awesome folks, and they claim that they
are they transform and they watch my shows they watched

(23:01):
shout out to all the were wolves in the chat
tonight and.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Uh, all you other other halfway.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
There, Yeah, talking about Harry Man. I'm just kidding. Yeah,
there's I think. I think it's kind of cool. We
have a very diverse audience, doc.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Okay, I love diverse. Takes many different people to make
the world go around. Like my old man used to say,
it's beenning exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I love it. I love it, man, But Uh, but wow, Yeah,
I need to go back and rewatch Team Wolf. That's
a great movie. Man. They put a lot of i'm
gonna say disclosure, soft disclosure, and a lot of these
old movies, even about you know, I hate to bring
up vampires. We talked about vampires occasionally here on the channel,
and and they just it just seems like from the

(23:50):
zombies to the vampires to the were wolves, all the
things that we've been told were not real, they're just
a bunch of fantasy. It's actually kind of real, okay.
And ET's and UFO's Bigfoot, all the things that have
been in movies for a long time, it's real. It's real. Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes, I think Hollywood just kind of what's the word
I'm looking for. They fantasticalize these so much to where
when we hear it, we immediately disconnect and say, oh,
that's fake, that's fantasy. But these entities and these creatures
are real. But I think Hollywood and some of these

(24:30):
other people have just you know, took them so far
into fantasy land that when we hear them now, we
think they're fake and don't even entertain the idea. Even
like vampires you mentioned, they're kind of reference in the Bible.
I think even like I talked about these Amalekites. You know,
their name means the blood liquors, and yeah, because they

(24:52):
drank blood. And when you get to it's an exodus.
When God's people is coming out of Egypt, they're roaming
in the wilderness and the first tribe of people that
they encounter is these Amalekites. And during this wilderness wanderings,
that's when God gives them all their laws. You know,

(25:12):
do not do this, do not do that. So you
don't get a rule, a law or regulation unless someone
is obviously breaking these already or doing these acts. So
I think it shows the actions of the people that
they were interacting with, and it's these Amalekites. So when

(25:35):
you look at some of those laws, what are some
of them? It says, no longer we you sacrifice to
harry goat demons. Oh okay, so esaw this harry man
married into these giant clans that were known for their hairiness.
I think that that might be considered them a hairy
goat demon. It says, do not drink the blood. The

(25:58):
life is in the blood. Name means blood liquors. We
know they were drinking the blood. That's very vamporistic. And
then it says, no longer will you seek necromancers or sorcerers.
When you go through a lot of the ancient writings, Rashi,
a medieval rabbi, talked about they were known sorcerers and
shape shifters. That's what he says in his writings.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh my gosh, vampires.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And then you get into Isaiah, it talks about these
the satyrs. When you get into the septuagen it says
that the satyrs will, yes, will dance in the wilderness
and in the desolate cities. And then no longer will
you pass your children through the fires of Molek. So
here you have these sasquatch looking faral giant clan that

(26:46):
were known sorcerers, drinking the blood like vampires. And they
were known sorcerers and shape shifters. And that's why when
it comes to the Amalekites, when you get to the Bible,
when they're cleansing the land of these hybrid races, Alakites
is the only group that it adds a caveat. It
says kill every man, woman and child. But it says

(27:07):
and animal. When it comes to the Amalekites because they
were known shape shifters, and the legend was is that
they would shape shift into animals to evade capture. So
God was telling these people even kill the animals. I
don't want any of them to escape.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Man. Wow. Okay, So that's pretty deep right there, because
I've been we talk about shape shifters a lot. We
talk about dog men versus weird wolves. We talk about
even bigfoots and stuff, and like, what's really going on
out there? You know, we're encountering things that are disappearing
before our eyes, shape shifting. Like I've taken reports of squirrels.

(27:47):
Two people see a squirrel, and the two people behind
them saw a seven foot tall bigfoot. The people in
the front saw a seven inch tall squirrel. Okay, things
we're talking about possible shape shifters and stuff going on
out there, and and and you know, I brought up
that conversation I had with Mark Maychak last weekend, and
we were talking about, you know, the possibility of a

(28:11):
lot of these creatures that we're seeing now they're not
all of them, but some of them actually being demonic.
You know, demonic for us is some sort of some
sort of demonic entity basically, or you know, demonic entities
taking over the bodies of Bigfoot or you know, or
dog men or whatever. We're you know, we're specifically talking
about the l b L the Land between the Lakes

(28:32):
up in Kentucky, because there's what I'm learning and what
I'm I'm finding out through my research, my boots on
the ground research and other you know, having interviews and
stuff and doing my historical research. A lot of the
places where we're having a lot of these cryptid sightings Bigfoot,
dogmen and other or places where there's been a lot
of bloodshed.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
And you're talking about a lot of vampire cults up there, vampire.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Cults at the LBL and uh a place like battlefields
like Civil War, Revolutionary War battlefields here across the US,
specifically in the South, Okay, because I do most of
my research down in the South United States. But a
lot of places where we're kind of led to our
places where there's been a lot of bloodshed and and

(29:20):
maybe I don't know if it's like portals have opened
there or what, there's some sort of I'm not going
to say it's all demonic, Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
For the cursings of the land, you know, and then
all of our blood has uh, you know, frequency vibrations.
And I even talked about it in the book. I
don't quote me on where I got it from. It's
in there though, but uh, these certain scientists did research
on blood and they were saying that it's basically it's
got its own frequency and that it's uh specific to

(29:50):
each person like a fingerprint. And in the Bible, and
Cain kills Abel, you know, what does God say? He says,
what have thou done? Thy brother's blood cries out from
the ground, so it's like he could hear, you know,
the vibrations, the frequency of the blood that was spilt

(30:15):
on the ground. And even when it talks about when
he kills his brother, it says that the ground opened
up its mouth to receive the blood. So it's kind
of like a sacrificial fertility, right, pouring the blood on
the ground hoping to bless the crops of Cain, because

(30:37):
Cain's crops were not blessed by God. So therefore I
think he reached out to another God that promised to
bless him by the shedding of blood and sacrificing to him.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Oh wow, Okay, what about I'd mentioned the you know,
we were up there at where that cemetery was, okay,
And that's oftentimes I've talked to about this plenty of times.
Where a lot of the dog man sightings we're getting
are around cemeteries and Indian burial mounds, okay, or just mounts,
earthen mounts, burial mounts. You know, what if there is

(31:13):
a vibration, And I've actually been told this by some
friends of mine, William Nighthawk actually with the Nighthawk High
Strangers podcast. He's a Lakota medicine man. He has mentioned
that there's a frequency that's put off potentially at some
of these cemeteries places where people are buried. I mean,
I'm not saying there's blood and stuff, but i mean

(31:36):
there it is. I mean they say that like a
dead body even will put off some kind of a frequency,
and they're attracted to that. I've even got a video.
I had Colleen Norris on the show about a year
or so ago, and she is the dog Man bigfoot
investigator from up in Ohio who actually has that video
of the grave digging dog Man in Ohio. I'm not

(31:56):
sure if you're familiar with that but these two teenage
girls were working at a restaurant in Ohio Hey, and
they took a she called it their supper break, and
they drove through a cemetery. And these two girls just
happened to be good friends with her daughter, and they
knew that Colleen was a cryptid investigator and researcher, so

(32:18):
they ended up giving her this video the next day,
so she owns this video. But they were driving through
a cemetery and one of the girls pulled her cell
phone out started recording because she saw what she thought
was they thought was a dirty lady, a dirty woman,
digging into this a cemetery plot. And it had had

(32:39):
long arms, and it was all black and had you
could see the point of ears on top of its head,
and it was digging frantically like it was. It was
a woman. It was a mentally disturbed woman for sure, Okay,
But they were videoing this thing and it was kind
of beside a mausolem. It turns out it was. To me,
it looked like a dog man. To most people, it

(32:59):
doesn't look It's like more like a dog man or
a creature like a werewolf. And they ended up leaving.
They didn't stop, Thank gosh, they didn't stop. But the
thing was on its knees digging a hole frantically into
the cemetery plot. And so Colleen got this video. She
immediately went over there. I think this was on a Friday,
and she said there was a hole. She measured the hole.

(33:21):
You could see the knee in prints where the knee was,
and she measured the hole and it was too long
for like a human to have put his arms down there,
and she did a research on it. She went back
on Saturday. The hole was still there. She went back
on Monday, the hole had been covered up and there
were flowers planted on top of like fake flowers, like

(33:43):
from a funeral. It turns out that hole, the plot
right there, was actually empty. There were no bodies. It
was supposed to be for creamines, and Colleen's friend was
buried right beside it, and that hole was actually for
his wife, who was still living. And the whole not
in the hole, but that plot was for his wife.
She that was where she would be buried one day
when she her creamings will go there. And but that

(34:07):
thing was just was just digging. And it was interesting
because she actually went to the cemetery workers like to
the office and asked what had happened. She said, you know,
I saw this hole, Like what is it? They said, Oh,
it was just an animal. It happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Out there all the time. Uh yeah, yes.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, it's just an animal, is what they said. You see,
multiple dog men have been spotted in that area, and
it seemed as though potentially that that was definitely not
the first time that had happened there before. But it
just kind of leads you to like questioning, what are
these dog men doing in these cemeteries? What was it
digging for? You know? And I think it maybe maybe

(34:45):
maybe did it have something to do with the blood.
I mean, so many reports of dog men and bigfoots,
but mostly dog men are around cemeteries.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Might've been like a meal, could have been.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Well it was empty, though, you'd think that like a
dog man would be able to smell that there's nothing
down there in that hole. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
We know dogs, I mean, if it is a dog man, Uh,
dogs are prone to hide snacks and bones and stuff.
They'll dig a hole, but they bury it back. So
this person, this this dog man or whatever was digging
a hole and just leaving it that that's pretty strange. Yeah,
maybe looking it was looking for its bone that it

(35:26):
plays somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yes, somebody's leg I mean, we've we've you know, tried
to figure out like what what on earth could it
have been digging for? I mean, and my friend Eric
came on the show and he was like, well, maybe
it was looking for a portal key, portal key stuff.
You know that that gets I like to get super
woo as they call it. And because you know, you

(35:50):
have to think outside the box here, You really have
to think outside the box. Sometimes it may be something
as simple as it had buried a bone there literally,
or it could be something way more as well. But
it's interesting just just going with the with the blood
aspect of it. It seems like there's more and more
sheep shifting cryptids today out here. Uh than I'm not.

(36:14):
I'm not just in the the WU camp. I'm also
in the flesh and bone camp as well. Doc. Okay,
so I know just from my research they're they're flesh
and bone bigfoots, dog men. But there's also something else
going on with them as well, some kind of X factor.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
We don't know what it is, yeah, and uh that's
something like with a lot of Harley stuff at that
side that we went to, you see physical things like
you know, bent trees and uh little uh tps and
even footprints and stuff, large footprints, so you do get
some physicality. But a lot of his pictures and videos

(36:51):
they kind of look shadowy figured, you know what I mean.
They look kind of almost like apparitions almost. And of
course with all the wu lets you know you talked
about too, you get orbs, you get UFOs phasing in
and out of reality infrasound, all this kind of stuff too.
And one of the things that I throw out is

(37:11):
like a theory is you know, according to the Book
of Enoch, it says that these hybrid races that were
created from these sons of God. You know, even the
Native Americans talked about it. They called them to the
star people. They come from the heavens and took the
women and bred with them. But the Book of Enoch
says that where they were a hybrid race, they weren't

(37:33):
fully from heaven, weren't fully from the earth. So therefore
when they died, their spirit had nowhere to rest, so
that they would be cursed to wander the earth and
torment mankind until the end of days. So I tell people,
I'm like, if what I'm saying is right, and you
had these pharalh giants, they were a hybrid race, they

(37:56):
were you know, nephylemic, and so go to what the
Book of Enoch says, then their spirits would remain to
torment mankind. And if they were these hairy humanoid giants
covered in hair like what we'd call it bigfoot today
when they and also, like I said, the Amalekites, they

(38:16):
were known shape shifters, they were known sorcerers, so they
already had some magic capabilities and doing all this kind
of stuff, drinking the blood. So would it be out
of the question to assume that if the Book of
Enoch is right, and when they die their spirits remain
to torment mankind, would they not want to choose a

(38:37):
familiar form. I don't think that's too far fetched.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
No, it's not. And as you're saying that, I'm thinking
of all of our Hollywood elite, no shade of the
Hollywood elite. Listen, I know some of them, not many,
but Hollywood elite and political the political elite, I guess
you called the elite with the little e I like
to say, but you know, and this is all for
entertainment purposes only, tonight, y'all? Okay, this is definitely for

(39:05):
entertainment purposes only. But you know, I have taken some
deep dive dives down the rabbit holes of you know,
celebrities cloning or celebrities recycled celebrities, and you know, people
in the public basically people in public figures having doppel
gangers being cloned, you know, doing these weird rituals. And

(39:28):
we all know about the what I like to call
the Google Chrome, but it starts of the A rhymes
with that, that kind of stuff. With the drinking of
the blood and all these missing children, missing people. My
my big soapbox I stand on, is, uh, where are
all these missing people going in our national parks? I mean,
we're talking about we have just hundreds of thousands of

(39:49):
people one missing every year just in the United States alone,
and it seems as though some of that, some of
those people are potentially being harvested, kidnapped, taken, harvested for
the blood. I've had whistleblowers on my show from have
been part of the secret space programs who whistle blow
about the deep underground military bases and the operations they

(40:11):
have going on down there where there's reptilian involvement. They're
feeding reptilians humans and stuff. So could that be connected
to this, you know, the blood liquors and maybe it's
all different, but maybe some of the same as well.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's multiple moving pieces and
components to it, especially when you look a look at
the Aliens and the reptilians and all that. I think
it's just the same story repeated over and over throughout time.
It's just they kind of changed the names, they changed
their appearance to suit the generation. That way that would

(40:50):
be better accepted. You know, the Native Americans they kind
of as star people because they were worshiping celestial things.
You go to the Middle East, they were the animal
knacky that they came down from the heavens and taught
them the sacred sciences and all this stuff. So the
Book of Genesis talks about the other Genesis six, the

(41:11):
fallen angels came down, bred with women, made hybrid races,
gave them knowledge so bad that they corrupted the gene
pool so bad that God had to wipe the world
out with the flood and hit the reset button. So
I think it's the same thing. It's just retold spunge,
just a little bit to the liking of the generation,

(41:33):
the people of the time, so they'll better accept it.
But I do think there's some physicality also do I
tell people I hate when people speaking absolutes because we
cannot speak in absolutes. There's too many unknowns. So it's
not this, it's not that. It's usually in the middle,
it's this and that. I think there is some flesh

(41:55):
and but blood left. So whether they're you know, a
remnant from ancient times that lived in these cave systems,
I think it's a high possibility. And when people want
to say, if there was something like that, we would
have found it by now. We would have captured one,
we'd have killed one, or we would have found the bones,

(42:17):
I tell people, look at the panda. You know, the
panda is not a smart animal. It's a very dumb animal.
But people will seem to forget we've only discovered that
animal in the past hundred years. But there was legends
and mythology and lore about these black and white bears

(42:37):
that roamed the wilderness of China. But everybody said, oh,
it's like Bigfoot. That ain't real, that's fake. It was.
If it was real, we'd have found one by now.
If it was real, we would have killed one by now.
You know. It said the same things that we say
about Bigfoot and giants and stuff today. But it took
them thousands and thousands of years before they finally captured

(42:59):
this thing. And that's a dumb animal. So imagine if
you had a hairy humanoid type creature. It was the
ultimate hunter with intelligence and traveled through the cave systems
under our feet. I don't think it's very far fetched
to say that it's a vade capture. I mean, just
compared it to the panda. It took thousands and thousands

(43:21):
of years for us to finally catch one of those,
and they're dumb.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I had no idea that they were dumb. I did
not know. I've actually I've seen some pandas at the
Atlanta Zoo had some pandas that came over from China,
and they were super cute. It looked cuddly, but you're
not supposed to touch them. I guess. Okay, So, but
that's that's a good point. Okay, I think.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
That's the deal we had with the Candahar giant, because
when you get that story, what happens this hairy farrell
giant with red hair, just like Esau's described. Some from
the same region that Esau comes from. Yeah, he comes
out of this cave system and attacks these soldiers. I

(44:05):
think that's exactly what I was just talking about. I mean,
that's a case in point right there. And even that
spear in that picture. I got pictures on my YouTube
and on some videos. But I had the Chief Joseph
river Wind on my program and in Michigan he found

(44:25):
a Nephilim lance. So how he's got this long pole
and at the end is this huge lance, and the
soldiers talked about it for so long that he basically
impelled like two soldiers on this blade and was holding
them up in the air. And that's when they told him,
said shoot it in the face. Shoot it in the face,
and they basically decapitated the thing. But Joseph has one

(44:48):
of those nephilum lances, and it's made out of a
copper and iron, so it's like a bronze spear, but
it's like this long. It's got the tang for your
attached to a pole, and just the spearhead itself weighs

(45:09):
like over twenty six or twenty eight pounds. I've held it.
It's heavy. It is able to take a giant of
a man to wield this thing, and it would have
to be on like an eight to ten foot long pole.
Ain't no regular size human going to be wieled in
that thing. And it matches the description perfectly of this
Candlehart Giant's weapon.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Oh my god, it's like a power pole with the
spirit at the end.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Wow, that's wild. You know, I actually had covered that.
I was tasked with a remote viewing target of the
Giant of Candlehar and the data included taking getting samples
for cloning purposes, samples for cloning purposes, which was wild.
So the story that we're told about the Candlehart Giant,

(45:54):
you know, that we've kind of been told, is like, oh,
they were just on some kind of mission going through there.
I think that it's kind of kind of true, but
I think there's a lot of things that are leaving
out about that. I do believe it did happen. I
think that military was sent in to go obtain a
dead body basically one of these giants to take back

(46:14):
for cloning of all things, and which is quite scary,
wondering like why would we need to clone giants? Oh yeah,
they weaponize everything. Okay, why wouldn't they clone a giant
out of there? And after I did that show, I
actually had a gentleman that contacted me who told me
that his son I believe. He said his son was

(46:37):
part of that that mission actually, and my data was
correct about that from what he had been told.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
That's just wow. Yeah, which I've done on a screen chair.
I found one of the images of that spear.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Okay, oh wow, very cool.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
That's yeah, and that they even cut a piece of
the end off. He said. I hated to do it,
but he wanted to have the metallurgy tested, and that
copper tested like ninety eight point eight percent pure. Wow,
And the metal tested to be from the levant. So

(47:22):
the copper being ninety eight point eight percent pure found
near the Michigan Lake system down there at the Isle
Royale where all those copper mines were found those ancient compromise.
That's the purest copper in the world. So from that
testing they've done, Uh, it has the copper from Michigan,
but the metal from the Levant. So I think it

(47:46):
proves that these giants that we're talking about sailed over
into the Michigan Lake area mind this copper and then
used it to make these giant weapons.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Gosh, imagine how many more there could be of that?
And has the person who owns that item right there?
Have they been approached by the Smithsonian by chance?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
I don't know, but if they had, he would have
waved his gun, Adham and run them off. He's in
the know of the Smithsonian because he's he's an Indian chief,
you know, so he's really hip to the giants and
all the stuff that the Smithsonian does. So he would
have definitely waved a gun in their face and run

(48:31):
them off.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
You know what. We need more people like him around actually,
And you know, I have a friend who maybe he's
in possession. He's got him and his friends have at
least one giant skeleton out of the late bed out
at Lovelock, at the love Lock Cave area, there's a
dry there's a I don't I guess it's a dried

(48:55):
lake bed at this point. But they were finding some
skeletons back then and He assured me that there are
private collectors who do have some of these skeletons, the
giant skeletons put away in private collections.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Let's just say I guarantee it. I guarantee it. And
one thing too. When you look at a lot of
the Bigfoot, uh, you know, depictions and stuff like that,
a lot of times they have like this, you know,
elongated head. You know you notice that these yeah, these
high bridges and kind of sloping back. It looks a
lot like this guy.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh yeah, you gotta you gotta skull with an elongated head.
Oh that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
And I got all my fringy friends that signed it.
But don't that look a lot like like because the
depictions of the Bigfoot. Yeah, And one thing too, it
kind of backs up to Lovelock Cave stuff. Is La
mar Zuli is one of the few people that went

(50:00):
down to Peru and studied these things extensively. They've done
castings and moldings, they've measured everything, done DNA samples, and
it proves to be it's split like a thirty sixty
thirty percent European DNA and then like sixty percent from
the levant. So it shows these come from that area.

(50:21):
But one of the doctors that they brought was an optometrist.
In these eye orbits, when he measured them, he said,
they're twenty five to thirty percent larger. He said, so
we can easily conclude that if the eye orbits were
twenty to thirty percent larger, that the eyes were and
that the pupils were also, And he said, so it's

(50:43):
my estimation just by looking at these eye orbits. He
said that it was a predatory type creature, a hybrid
creature because of owls and other nighttime predatory animals have
the twenty five to thirty percent nature the eye sockets
for night vision. So he says, I think that these

(51:05):
guys had night vision. So it kind of backs up
all the legends of the Native Americans and even the
candle Hard Giant that these beings love the caves, they
love being in the dark because they can see in
the dark.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Oh, that explains a lot right there. Then yeah, wow,
oh my gosh. So it's all about the eyes. They
were adaptable to being in the dark and seeing. You know,
I was just talking the other day about the contact
lens you can get, like the technology now to see
in the dark when it comes to like contact.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Lenses and stuff that's insane.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Wild, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm ready for that, okay,
Like I'm ready for the flear you know, night vision
contacts for when I'm out doing my cryptid research. But
then they're talking about even contacts where you can see
interdimensional beings and stuff, and I'm like, why a case
only could put those on. I guess, but I don't

(52:02):
want to know, honestly, what all's around us from the
interdimensional standpoint. I heard about the Disigan and diegoggle episode
in Vietnam with those soldiers that were like gunners on
the back of helicopters, and they had those Disigon and
digoggles on, and they were shooting at things that nobody
else could see, like they were calling them demons, were

(52:23):
flying up next to their helicopters, and they were seeing
what looked like hell through those goggles in real time.
I'm good, Yeah, I'm good. I don't need to see
all that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Well, no, that might be one of those once a
year things that you're talking about in the show, just
to remind yourself you're alive. Do something once a year
that scares the hell out of you.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I could do it once a year, not on Halloween, okay,
or I don't know. I mean that just sounds it
sounds wild. But that's that's a good point. Once a here,
I do it once a year. About five minutes, I've
had enough, I've seen enough here.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
But you have one of those creatures came up by
you while you're molding some clay pops, just like ghosts.
You know, it's in there helping you make some vases.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Oh my god, yes, that's that is creepy, creepy, Oh
my gosh.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
I use that in the Bible, that story of the
Witch of Indoor. That's something that comes up a lot,
like in podcasts and stuff that I do when they
talk about you know, witches and necromancers and stuff. That's
one of the few accounts in the Bible. But when
the Samuel actually shows up, you know, she freaks out
and knowledge she freaked out because she sees Samuel. But

(53:35):
she's also freaked out because she's realized if that's Samuel,
then this guy is the king and he's outlawed what
I'm doing and threatened us with death. So she was
like doubly scared. But I tell people. That incident reminds
me of Whoopy Goldberg in that movie Ghosts. You know,
she was a con artist and made all this you know,
crap up, but then when one I actually showed up, remember,

(53:58):
it scared the hell out of her. She was telling
the walls down in that place.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, that's actually a good movie. That's a really good movie.
But yeah, it's been a while since I watched that.
But interesting. Yeah, you know, a lot of one of
the movies they have today do have a lot of
biblical connotations to them and stuff said, there's nothing new
under the sun at this point.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
No, even like Game of Thrones. I tell people that
they love that show so much. I mean, that's the
basis of the biblical narrative. But it's just a lot
of people miss it because, you know, this is an
ancient text written to ancient people, and thousands of years
later we're trying to read it, and a lot of
the stuff's lost to us because they wasn't thinking that

(54:41):
far ahead. You know, they wasn't thinking about us thousands
of years reading this text. So there's a lot of
stuff that's left to assumption, and it's lost to us
because we're not reading the other writings and know the
legends and Lord and all that kind of stuff. But yeah,
the Bible talks about in like the Tower of Bible.
A lot of people think that's just the incident where

(55:01):
they built a tall tower and he divided the languages. Well,
that's true, but when you go into Deuteronomy thirty two,
verse eight, it gives a little more context to that story,
and it says that not only were the tongues divided,
that nations were divided amongst the beneha Alohem the sons
of God, and these sons of God rebelled and ruled unjustly.

(55:26):
In Psalms eighty two says, and it's kind of like
a condemnation to his son's angelic hoasts that rebelled and said,
how long will you rule unjustly and show partiality to
the wicked? You desire to live an eternal life, but
you shall, You shall die and fall like any prince.
So that's the whole game of thrones. That's what we

(55:46):
see planning out today, all these demonic spirits and stuff
whispering in the years of what the world leaders, pulling
the streams from the darkness, and that's why the world's
in such chaos like it is, and they fight amongst
each other too. It's all about it's a spiritual game
of risk over dominion of the earth and all that
stuff's in the Bible. It's Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Oh yeah, I love Game of Thrones. Listen. I actually
even dress up like the Mother of Dragons on Halloween
last year. Okay, I had a dragon. I had a
dragon on my shoulder for my Halloween night show. And
I just love I love Game of Thrones, the White Walkers,
and you know, it actually does also relate to a
lot of the cryptos we have here. You know, the
White Walkers actually are like wind Goes kind of too.

(56:29):
So I love making little connections with all of that.
And and yeah, it's it's so weird how it's it
is playing out in modern day as well as a
matter of fact, talking about like the occult and occult
practices and things like that in our everyday lives. And
I did a show on the Hoover Dam last week, okay,

(56:50):
the Hoover Dam, and and somehow we got into the
conversation of like a space elevator, and someone in the
chat had mentioned the Tower of Babble that being like
part of the town a babble, and it's like a
basically a it's like a I do want to say,
like a rope. It's some kind of contraption that goes
it's anchored on Earth and it goes into outer space basically,
and that it's like a tether something that's like tether

(57:13):
to the Earth. They can send people and supplies and
everything up and down into space through this tether. They
call it the space elevator.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
And Jacob's Ladder, Jacob's Ladder, that's right. Yeah. Well what's
cool too is about the Hoover Dam that I'd found
out a while back, which it ain't there anymore, but
they've done some kind of reconstruction or something like that.
But down there at the bottom they used to have
like this angelic looking statue with its wings I'll pointed

(57:41):
up and all this kind of stuff down there. Yeah.
Well a lot of people don't realize, but that was
a celestial time stamp because the day that they dedicated that,
the shadows of the wings of the Charublem I guess
if you want to look at it that way fell
on a certain spot had the date in year because

(58:03):
where the sun travels the same path. It casts that
shadow in that same spot on that day every year.
So that was kind of like a commemorative thing showing, hey,
this was built on this day at this time because
the shadow falls here, and that's exactly what you see
in Egypt. I believe Graham Hancock talked about that sphinx.

(58:24):
You know, he believed it was originally a lion, and
I do too, because the head is so disproportionate, but
it's facing the rising sun, and he thinks that that
is like the Hoover Dam. It's a time stamp. It's
looking towards the rising sun when the sun was rising
in the constellation Leo. So they have this lion facing

(58:44):
the rising sun of Leo. So it dates that back
to around the Young the Dryest period.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I love that. Yes, actually I didn't realize that the
wing actually cast a shadow on that astrological tile that
they put there. Uh it is it's also this is
something else is interesting about that is that it's showing
the constellation of Draco, I believe. And you know, we
always like talking about the Draco reptilians and stuff too.

(59:14):
I'm not saying they're connected, but.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Oh I think they are on our government and uh,
ancient twisting serpent, you know, it says that he is
the prince of the power of the Air and Serpent
Mound and a lot of our mound structures.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
The astrio archaeologists have looked at a lot of that
stuff and uh talks about a lot of those were
built in their opinion when Draco was the north star.
And when you get into the Bible, it says, oh,
to have fallen, son of the Morning, you know, and
I will send my throne on high. I will be
like the most high, because the Prince of the power

(59:52):
of the air, the dragon once was, but he has fallen.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Oh my gosh. There's a lot of fallen angel symbolism,
seem like at the Hoover Dam. That's we were trying
to figure out, like what those celestial statues were. They're
like thirty foot tall cop that made a Is it
copper or bronze? I think it's bronze, Actually I can't remember,
but there's there's two of them. There a lot of
freemasonry symbolism there, big time, big time, And I don't

(01:00:20):
want to see a nautical star. It was more like
an astrological star. But here's the thing about that is
wherever there's what looks like a nautical star kind of
which one of those designs does it like a nautical star,
there's usually a stargate like a portal there is what
I've been told by a lot of the guys who
I have several recurring guests on my shows that have

(01:00:42):
been parts of the secret space programs, and they say, well,
that's where jump rooms are. You know, any building like
a hotel, even the CIA in their lobby they have
a big picture of this nautical star in their lobby
like in tile, and they say that anywhere there's one
of those, it's like a marker for where the jump
rooms are, and the stargates are right there. So keep

(01:01:03):
your eye out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, you've look the ancient hieroglyphs and pictorials. Anytime you
see those spirals, that's an ancient depiction of a jump gate,
a portal, or whatever you want to call that. Nothing
news under the sun. Once again, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
They're all over the world too, man, and they come
up more often than not in my conversations that I have,
and some I'm a data for some of the targets
that I'm given and stuff. So it's fascinating to me.
And I find it also really interesting that our governments,
like our government here in the United States has they
do these rituals and now it's kind of more subtle

(01:01:45):
these days. I guess, well, it's not subtle now, but
but it's been kind of more subtle, like that ceremony
they did at the Hoover Dam, for instance, where they
did the dedication, the opening ceremonies kind of like I
compare it to discern the opening ceremony discerned, right, but
it was an exact hour minute and second, I mean
they got it down to late the seconds to where

(01:02:07):
they had a FDR. President Franklin Roosevelt came and gave
a speech. I think they were running late that day
and that was screwed up there, screwed up the rotation
that morning. They weren't supposed to be late. They had
they had a ritual to do. Somebody was running late,
but they The occult is very much deep, deep into

(01:02:29):
our government and into our pretty much our everyday lives,
whether we know it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Oh yeah, like the Freemasons, a lot of that, you know,
the rituals of the laying of the cornerstone that you
see depicted in ancient paintings. Washington even took place, you know,
laying the cornerstone, the Masonic cornerstone with the hidden message
inside of the brick at the White House, and uh,

(01:02:54):
the same thing at the Statue of Liberty. So you
had this over and over again. And even the ceremony
we do for the newly elected president that is an
ancient Egyptian ceremony because they believe that the kings were
god kings, that Osiris, they would do this ritual and

(01:03:16):
they would do it in this temple of Isis, and
it was in front of the phallic obulisk, and that
the sun would travel into the womb of Isis while
he was in there doing his rights, and it would
impregnate the temple. And then he would invite of Cyrus

(01:03:37):
to possess him basically, and he would rule through this
king kind of like I talked about the Deuteronomy thirty two,
the spirit behind the ruler pull on the strings kind
of thing. But that's how Washington's laid out. You have
this obulisk, you have this reflection pool that is a
vaginal channel and leading to the capital where there's this

(01:03:59):
huge dome it's the Womb, and he's in there doing
his riots and things. And then that's after all that.
So with that's when he actually goes in front of
the people and stands there and gives his acceptance speech
and all that stuff. But all that stuff nothing news
under the sun. Once again, Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Gosh, his body has been taken over. Man, that is wild.
And you know, all the state capitals I don't know
about all over the country, but I know here in
Georgia we have a dome over our state capitol as
well as it's actually lined with gold. We have the
gold Dome, the Golden.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Womb in Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Yeah it's golden. Is fancy. I used to work there
for twenty years. So yeah, wow, interesting stuff man. That
is you know, getting to like a darker side of
even darker side of it. I know, I don't like
getting too dark.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Usually lower your voice.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
You got to lower your voice. You got real said, Yeah,
you know we've got things like talking about having your
body taken over and stuff like that too. Is I
mentioned the celebrity elites and stuff. You know, they've got
this thing called d oh what does that thing called
the real Lizard okay, And that's actually like a physical

(01:05:19):
representation of having something like a parasite that is this
is a rumor, y'all. I don't know for sure, you know,
I'm just saying this is just for entertainment purposes on
the eye thing. Yeah, they have a little parasite that
they'll I had someone that came on my show, Darryl
James came on the show. He's he's in the US
Navy and actually signed up to be a part of
the secret space program at some point and spent a

(01:05:42):
lot of years there. And and he had an incident
where he was actually he was pretty much kind of
held down. He had been out drinking one night and
talked about how they were trying to put a real
in his eye and and so and this this is
a parasite. It's like a little worm, it looks like
and and that's where you get the black eye clubs
and all that kind of stuff. That's what they say.

(01:06:04):
It's a rumor. But that's kind of like a physical
representation of a parasite taking over a host body. You know,
We've got We've got all these shows and movies on
TV and in the theater talking about that kind of stuff, right,
like the takeovers and people's bodies being taken over by
something demonic, like a demonic parasite.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Basically, what ma'am, what was that the original Aliens movie
that that crab looking worm thing jumped on people's face
face hugger and insert in their mouth and impregnate them
or take over their body that way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
And did you say it was a real.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
Real It's kind of real real.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
That being sperm. Oh yeah, if you look it up. Yeah,
because it's like the Knights Templar and the Holy Grail
lingo and stuff, how they talk about the real don't
don't spill the real was talking about you know, the
man's seed it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Wow, Well maybe this is like the the Reptilian seed
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah. Yeah, Speed of the Serpents, Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I learned something new every show, I swear I do well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I learned that from Shoot. He's an anthropologist. Love his work,
but he talks about the Dragon Court a lot and
his deep dyed all that stuff. I forget it. I
forgot his name. I always forget it, but I always
think of it after the show. But I've mentioned him
a couple of times. But really bright guy. He talks

(01:07:35):
about the real that was something even the Nazis and
stuff talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Well, they had they actually have what's called the real society.
And I've been told that the real society actually, I mean,
that's kind of an important topic. I've actually been encouraged
to talk about it, and then I've also been discouraged
to talk about it by other people for whatever reasons.
I don't know. It's some kind of secret underground, like
a secret.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Society kind of and Rawbert Cephyer, Sorry, it just hit
my head.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I love it that you're like me. I just I
blurted out. After it comes in my head, I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's it. We'll have to look him up. That's amazing.
But but yeah, talk about the real society. That's is it? Nazi?
Was that like some had a Nazi organization or something.
But I think they had where they had all those
women that had the long hair too, you know what

(01:08:25):
I'm talking about. And I can't remember that lady's name,
that blonde headed lady, uh, was a part of it.
But but they were they were using like weren't they
using psychics or something to communicate with ets or inter dimension?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Yeah, they were doing all kinds of occult stuff. But yeah,
I mean and honestly boiled all down to uh. They
thought like the Aryan race was like the uber Man
basically uh demi gods, you know, hybrid race, that they
were the ultimate race. They were the like in a
biblical worldview, they were the Nephelene, the giants from the

(01:08:58):
from the Golden Age when the gods walked amongst men,
and they were basically like the Tower Bible. They were
trying to open the abyss and get these imprisoned watchers
out again to try to get a return back to
the Golden Age. And they thought that their real their
seed was a superior race from this Golden age. So

(01:09:21):
they were trying to do all these occult practices to
bring back these gods from that time and re establish
their uber Man, their superior race, who they believed at
the time were blonde haired, blue eyed race.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Okay, well this all connects to the Giant of Kandahar.
Like I told you that data that I got was
like cloning, getting a sample for cloning purposes, cloning the
giants I've talked about, the giants that are in stasis
potentially that are encased. I guess you call it like
all over the world basically giants awakening today, and we

(01:09:59):
got the whole issue you have, like CERN, all these
large hadron colliders, like large ion colliders that are admittedly
all over the world. We have several down here in
the South. There's one up near where you live.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Actually labs it was the first one. It's it's a
small scale m.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
The large ion collider. They actually have a program called ALICE. Uh.
They're at Oakridge and they work admittedly, go to their website,
they admit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
The rabbit hole. How funny.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Yeah, they go down exactly why would they name it Alice? Okay,
but uh, but they work directly with CERN as a
sister project. I've even been told there could be one
in Atlanta as well. Underneath downtown Atlanta there's a large
ion collider or a large I don't know if it's
a large hadron collider. I think it's a large ion collider,

(01:10:49):
which there's obviously a difference there. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know the technicalities of it, but some kind
of a difference, but it's also the same and I
was I've heard rumors again that when that thing was
turned on in Atlanta, that some entities came out of it.
And I remember I was living in downtown Atlanta at
the time, in the early two thousands. I was going

(01:11:11):
to college at Georgia State down there, and I was
working as well. But crime got excessively high down there,
Like there's a lot of there's gonna be a lot
of crime in Atlanta at the time. Okay, downtown, but
it got really bad over especially over near a particular
college and not mentioned which college it was, but robberies, homicides,

(01:11:37):
self deletions, if you know what I mean. I don't know,
just everything violent crimes basically skyrocketed after they turned that
thing on. From what I was told, it made it
made sense. It's like, why did crime get so bad?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Even when it's like certain it's crazy. I mean, they
might do it just for shock factor, but I've heard
some people say that, but I don't think that. But
like when they do decide to start this thing up,
a lot of times there's a lot of like astronomical significance.
Well why do that? I think they're trying to harness
even the Earth's natural energies and stuff to try to

(01:12:15):
aid in whatever they're trying to do because I remember
when we had that eclipse, what was it last year
or a year before last, that total solar eclipse. Yeah,
CERN had been dormant, you know for a long time.
I don't think they'd run all year, but they fired
up that day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Oh god, I know it was. I think it was
about a year or two ago because I had Frank
Jacob on my show. I had to show at Space
Out Radio and I brought Frank Jacob on on a
Sunday night, and it was like the next Monday, they
were planning on turning on CERN and H and he
is actually he lives in Germany, I believe, but he
is a researcher on all things like Project looking Glass

(01:12:57):
and I forgot what he called it. I think it's
just Project looking Glass. And he's you have to look
him up online, y'all. Frank Jacob, he's amazing. And we
were talking about CERN and and just our government and
the elite or whoever, the controllers of this world. Here

(01:13:17):
this realm using things like Project looking Glass and what
is that thing that the Vatican has.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
It's like them oh Lucy named Lucifer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah, yes, they got well, they got the telescope. They've
also got the chronovisor as well, and so that where
they're able to see into the future and to the path.
I think it's the past that they've talked about. You know,
there's allegedly pictures of like Jesus carrying the cross and
all the stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
So I don't know, Yeah, which I like to take
a deeper dive into that looking glass. The only thing
that I've ever heard about that was which I followed
Trey Smith from God a nutshell a lot. He was
kind of the guy that that red peeled me into
all this fringy stuff, especially the fringy part of the Bible.
But he was a big follower of Kim Clement, and

(01:14:07):
Kim Clement he died a handful of years ago, but
he was a pastor, but he was a proclaimed prophet,
and he come from South Africa and ended up moving
to the United States. But he had all kinds of
different prophecies that all come to pass. And he predicted
Trump being elected before he died, and he said that

(01:14:29):
he would be a two term president. He predicted COVID
and I can't remember he predicted something else that was
a big event. And even one of the presidents would
reach out to him. He was like an advisor to president.
They'd reach out to him for advice on spiritual matters
and things like that. But when he predicted this one

(01:14:51):
really big event. His daughter's alive and she does a
lot of shows and stuff like that, still promoting his
work and showing his videos and stuff. But she had
went on a show and said that once he made
that one prediction that come true, the CIA, FBI, everybody
come in on him and was interrogating him, searching through

(01:15:12):
all this stuff, you know, thinking maybe he was a
plant and knew something, but he travel traveling these things.
He said, no, God told me these things. And then
once they found no shady business about it, his daughter
said that they invited him to be a part of
Project looking Glass. Really and he turned it down. Oh wow,

(01:15:36):
And this years ago they would have.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Suppressed him as what they would have done. They would
have just they would have brought him in to shut
him up. That's what that would have been. That's wild. Yeah,
all these projects just really I am blown away by
all the projects that our government has been working on.
I mean, I know I do. I've been trained in
like remote viewing, and that's Stargate Project Jedi. I was

(01:16:01):
not a part of those programs. Okay, I'm just a
civilian okay that just has a really fun hobby here. Yeah, no,
no I'm not. But I mean if I were, I know,
I guess so I don't know, but I would, you know,
if I were to ever be and I have not been,

(01:16:22):
but if I had ever been, like asked to be
a part of on this project, I'd be like, no, No,
I enjoy my you know, doing what I do now,
having a YouTube channel, doing things for fun, you know.
But but yeah, you know, Project Pegasus projects, like we're
talking about Project Looking last. Project Pegasus was interesting because
I'm really into time travel, Okay, Like I love time travel.

(01:16:44):
I've actually when we were at the Meadow, one of
the places that with my team's research, I heard a
voice yell out from across the water source we have
out there time travel, like really loud. One night we
were hiking into the meadow, and a couple of weeks later,
I realized that was my voice, and uh, and I

(01:17:05):
it took me a long time to realize that was
my voice because I was like, I knew there was
something weird. It was already weird hearing a woman screaming
time travel from a place that was not accessible by foot, okay,
to get over there in the middle of the night,
but then to know it was my voice later on,
it was really weird. So but anyways, I'm super super
interested in like time travel, technology, time travel, you know,

(01:17:29):
portals and all that. So Project Pegasus was one of
those projects where they were sending children back in time
to go talk to our presidents throughout time and give
them messages and to even watch I think it was.
I don't know I was. Andrew Bossiago said this, or
there are other people's in those programs. I have a friend,

(01:17:49):
my buddy, Jimmy Payne, Okay, he said that he was
one of in one of those programs, and he's he's
claimed that they would send the little boys, even to
the theater where Lincoln was shot, and different timelines like
there were they would send kids back in for different timelines,
and like in different timelines, different people were shooting Lincoln

(01:18:11):
and and it's almost like they could change the timeline
somehow by like who shot them and who they wanted
to shoot them or something. I know that sounds kind
of crazy, but some percentage it was like John Willis Booth,
it was like forty percent of the time it was
him or fifty percent, and then like thirty percent of
the time it was somebody else, and then twenty percent
of the time it was his wife or something, you know.

(01:18:33):
And uh, it was just kind of it was wild,
and they could you could take any of these timelines,
but they needed it to be John Willicks Booth for
like a narrative that was coming or something, you know,
like the Controllers or whoever. So I know it sounds
weird to people, but it is what it is, y'all.
And you know what I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Mean, butterfly effect. You know, you try to change it,
but then it still comes to pass, but just a
different way. True. And it's crazy too. I've been I'm
about to do a show on the Lincoln assassination. I
found a lot of cool crazy rabbit trails with that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Uh you can add that one to your mix.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Yeah, government cover up and a fall guy was inserted
and John Wilkes Booth lived a long, healthy life forty
years after Wow, he was murdered.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Oh man, that happens a lot. It seems like, uh,
there's a lot of there's a lot of rabbit holes
surrounding that that assassination right there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Yeah, there's marriage that There's been marriage records found in Tennessee.
John Wilkes Booth married a woman. And then they think
that he moved off to h I can't. I think
it was like Australia or somewhere like that. He moved far,
far away and changed his name. But they found this
will that was written out giving out all kinds of

(01:19:56):
his goodies at death. But it was too all of
John Wilkes Booth's family. It was his wife was getting
a bunch of stuff, his children was bequeathed a bunch
of stuff. So they were like, how come this guy
halfway around the world is bequeathing all of his stuff
to the John Wilkes Booth family. A lot of people

(01:20:20):
thinks he changed his name and moved off, but he
made sure to take care of him after he died.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I'm sure he was part of that brotherhood, if you
know what I mean, with the put their hand in
their jackets, the Freemasons. Okay, and so maybe that had
something to do with it too. Now that is wild,
that's wild. It's almost like the whole like the Hitler,
like not actually self deleting and not dying and going

(01:20:46):
to Argentina right going to South America and living out
his all his days there until he died of old
age or something. So yeah, it happens probably a lot
more than we know of. Oh yeah, yeah, everything is
so choreographed, and it just the wool has been pulled
over our eyes in so many cases, and there's been

(01:21:08):
so many cover ups. And you know, speaking of the
Hoover Dam, we were just talking about, you know, the
whole issue of like the man made lakes that we
have all over the South. You guys have Lake Norris
up there in Tennessee. I love Lake Norris. I used
to go there when I was a kid. And there's
actually like an ancient Egyptian temple underneath the water there
that was purposely covered up. You know, twenty three Indian

(01:21:31):
burial mounds. There are some kind of burial mounds. There
could be giant bones in those, they were all excavated.
Where where did all the stuff go that was in
those mounds? And why did they cover it all up?
You know, just like with the Hoover Dam, they say
there's like even it could be a pyramid under that
at late meat and stuff. So a lot of things
have been covered up. We don't know, we've not been
told the full truth on things. And here we are today,

(01:21:53):
you and I talking about this stuff to plant seats
into people's minds kind of to like do some more
research on it and maybe see think outside the box
on these issues.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah, question everything, re examine everything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
For sure, for sure. I actually have. I actually had
a couple of pictures here that I wanted to show
to the audience tonight, and one of the I know
we were talking about Noah being a giant earlier long
when we first started the show or mentioned Noah. How
big would Noah and his wife have been? Do you
think if they were giants compared to us, little hymus,
because I think we're the little people today.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know. But if I
was to guess, I mean I would say easily, you know,
eight to twelve footers. Actually i'd say probably, you know,
probably ten to twelve footers if I was guess, maybe fifteen.
But I know that in North America our giants are

(01:22:52):
around seven to nine feet and I think that we
are not evolving. We are de evolving because we are
once bigger, bat or stronger, and now look at us.
It's just entropy. Entropy takes its course, you know. And
I think that when you look back like far As,
like the Bible, it talks about the before the Great flood,

(01:23:13):
there was the firmament, you know, broke and released the
waters above. And there's a lot of people like doctor
Kent Hovin talks about a water canopy theory that this
was once a pressure ized system and the oxygen levels
were so much higher and more rich. The people were bigger,

(01:23:34):
beat or stronger. All the vegetation and animals were too.
And we even find that in the fossil record. You know,
if you did through the fossil record, ninety percent of
the time you find whatever, you know, fossilized animal of
the ancient past, you find it in modernity. But the
only difference is it's like ten times the size. I

(01:23:57):
mean that we got modern turtles, you know, this big,
but they found fossilized turtles that's this big. You know,
they found the eagles had modern day that's this big,
but they found a fossilized eagles head that's this big.
So to say that the people were it's not a
stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Yeah, Oh my gosh. I mean there are giant skeletons
found all over the world, and there's not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
A picture of a finger bone that we were talking about.
Because I got to meet Ron Wyatt, the archaeologist, the
biblical archaeologists that found Noah's Ark and the Red Sea
Crossing and all these other places. I got to meet
his wife, and they're from Middle Tennessee, and she invited
me to her home and they have their basement set

(01:24:45):
up like a Ron Whitett museum and got all the
stuff that they he had found and stuff during his explorations.
But one of the things they showed me was a
finger bone that they had found on one of their
trip uh in Turkey looking at Noah's Arc and they
found this city that was the legend that it was

(01:25:08):
the place where Noah and his family built the first
village in settlement. And there's this old ancient grave there
that they had found that all the locals say that
this was the burial place for Noah's wife, but it
had been ransacked by grave robbers and stuff. But they
kind of got to just digging around it, you know,
just looking in different places, and they actually found a fingerbone,

(01:25:34):
and it kind of backs up what we're talking about today. Uh,
take a look at this finger bone. I'll share it.
It was like over seven inches long.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
I mean seven inches long. That's why because like if
you hold it, I hold up, I'm holding up my
little my index finger right here, and it's three inches max.
Got to be because like I've always been told, like
from that first joint right there up to the finger tip,
very very tip is like an inch. Usually it's kind
of kind of about an inch. I got like three
of those right here. So that's that's way. That's over

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double the size of a normal And I've got big hands.
Doc got big hands, so you know that's that's over
double the size of my hands. That's like, shoot, I
mean that's huge, double size of my finger.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Yeah, I mean that that's just wild to say the least,
especially how you were just talking about Noah, you know,
and giants and the kind of stuff going around that,
and then for them to be there at the site
of Noah's ark and this village that they said was
the tomb of his wife and boom, right there you go.

(01:26:43):
It was this crazy long finger bone.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
That is wild. How on earth did they get that
back to the United States? They just kind of stuck there.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
It was back in the eighties, you know, it was
back in the day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Oh, they could get anything. You could smuggle anything in
back in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Oh my gosh, that is so cool they have that.
I mean, it could potentially be Noah's wife. That's her
finger potentially. Wonder what do they say there was the
index finger?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
They didn't say they kept put in that little box
right there?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
Oh is that a box right there?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
That look round thing to the top right. Oh, okay,
I got that little nut or whatever that is. I'm
not sure, but there's a box right the side of it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
What is what kind of nut is that? That is weird?

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
I have no clue, but I mean that is honest,
about as big as your fist.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Yeah, so you got to did you take this picture?
This is you were there it?

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Yeah, I got to hold it. I got to look
at it. I got the hold piece of Noah's art too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
I heard to tell you you've got some cool friends.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Oh yeah. I love what I do. I absolutely love
what I do because there's so many things that I
can say that. Not many people can. I've got to
hold a Nephelom giant lance, I've got the whole potentially. Uh,
Noah's wife's fingerbone, a giant fingerbone. I've held a piece
of Noah's arc twice, two different pieces, but both come

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from the Ron White collection.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Just all kinds of cool stuff. I mean, I've had
people bring me like this right here. That is a
smooth stone from the valley where David slew Goliath. Oh wow,
And I tell people this is one of the five
stones that David picked up proved me wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Oh my God, to take down Goliath. Yeah, Oh my gosh,
put it in a sling. That's great. Oh my gosh. Man,
you you're you're very blessed and lucky man to be
able to experience that and and to share it with us.
That's amazing. Thank you so much for that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Oh yeah, And here's another two. And this is from
Ron White's collection. His brother will and why it gave
me this as a present. This is a sulfur ball
from Sodom and Gomora that run got himself.

Speaker 1 (01:29:10):
What is a sulfur ball?

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Well, when you get into the biblical count it talks
about Solom and Gomorrah was destroyed by fire and brimstone
from heaven and sulfur, you know, burns, you know, crazy hot.
And at the site of Sodom they have all these
like petrified buildings and stuff just burnt, melted to a crisp.

(01:29:36):
But when they dig into the walls and columns of
these structures, they find all kinds of these sulfur balls,
and they do they smell just straight up like sulfur
and will burn bright blue to this day. But that's
what rained down on Sodom and destroyed it. So I mean,
we've got a piece of biblical history here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Oh my gosh, Hey, don't let the Smithsonian in your house, okay, Right,
they come and knock and lock the door, okay, because
they would love nothing more than take pieces of stuff
like that. Yeah, you know. I actually had a gentleman
on my show a while back who said that he
was like an anthropologist. He was a former military veteran.

(01:30:19):
He was a military veteran, but he he started working
at the Smithsonian as a like he kind of handled
some of the displays. I think that he worked on
the displays, and he told me that he was able
to he handled the bones of some of the giants there,
some of the giant skeletons there, and he came on
the show talking about how a lot of the skulls

(01:30:40):
actually had holes in them, And before he came on
the show, I thought that he was kind of alluding
to them having bullet wounds in their head, and so
I was really excited to like break it on my show,
like he had bullet wounds. But it turns out he
was like, no, they were. I'm not saying he change
the story or anything. I'm just saying like it kind
of the story was maybe told to me wrong or something.

(01:31:02):
I don't know, But it turned out he was just
alluding to the saying that he thinks it was from
where they put a hole in the skull to like
stop brain swelling, trepidation, trepanation, that'sh it. Yeah, But but
a lot of them, he said, pretty much all the
skulls there had a hole in them like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
And also too a lot of people UH failed to
realize like some of these were from UH like war wounds,
took a club to the head and cracked their skull,
so then they they shaved their head and they were
still alive. So they just kind of cut them broken
pieces off to try to heal that spot. And a
lot of them you'll find they have these trepidation holes,

(01:31:43):
but then they have like a thinner layer on the
inside that where it was starting to grow back closed,
but they died before it did, so the hole was left.
And uh La Marzouli uh down in Peru found a
like a a mass burial site out there that was

(01:32:04):
full of nothing but giant bones and elongated skulls. And
he said that all of them had fractured skulls. That
he thinks it goes back to like a lot of
the Native American stories, the war against the giants, and
it was like a mass genocide type thing. That maybe
this was the spot that either they took the bodies
to and it disposed of them, or maybe they invited

(01:32:27):
them to like a piece dinner or a trading session
and they all showed up. Then they just killed them
all and buried them there or something. But he thought
there was some definitely some some foul play there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
It was a setup.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Man got Game of Thrones. They invited them to the
wedding feast and killed them all.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
That's dirty, man, that's so dirty. They were just sitting
there trying to be cool. That sounds like something my
son on Fortnite. Oh my gosh, I watched my son
playing Fortnite with his buddies, and I'm like, man, y'all
are dirty. Y'all dirty kids. But uh, but man, that's
that is wild. I mean some of the last giants

(01:33:06):
actually that we hear about are the giants of Lovelock Cave,
the redheaded giants here in the United States. And I
know I was showing this picture of it's supposed to
be like a representation of the Candahar Giant, But beside
the Candahart Giant are the actual skulls that were found
in Lovelock Cave. And some of the those ducks were
actually found inside that cave as well in America in

(01:33:28):
Nevada and and so. But they were actually burned to
death and smoked, smoked to death, I guess you call it.
I don't know, in that cave in Nevada. And they
they they were a menace to the local tribes out
there because these giants were taking the women and the
kids and kidnapping people and eating them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Yeah, eating them. And that matches the wild man stories
from Europe. All of your you know, your wild man
stories is that there was these giant, hry humanoid people
that at night would raid the villages and the towns,
and that they would steal produce and livestock and women.

(01:34:11):
It's like they were like raiding parties pretty much. And
a lot of the accounts that I've read match a
lot of the stories of the North American Indians, and
they're giants to tea.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Oh yeah, there's actually one. We have one really well
known giant story out of Georgia. I'm sure there's more,
but the one that I'm familiar with happened in eighteen
twenty nine and it's down in South Georgia in a
place we call the Oki finochi Okay. It's a huge
swamp that actually covers South Georgia into Florida, and a
lot of say gators, alligators and wildlife down there. It's

(01:34:49):
actually totally beautiful down there. But back in eighteen twenty nine,
there was a land what do you call it, a
land lottery, and people they wanted people to come out
and settle that land down there and to start living
on it. And so they did a lottery and a
bunch of families. So it was kind of like pioneer
days kind of down there. Uh and uh. And so

(01:35:10):
people were getting plots of land around the Oki Finochi
and there were some gentlemen who got slams a son
and a father I believe, and they packed up, you know,
they wanted to wander into the swamp to see what
kind of resources they had out there. And so, you know,
people were building their little cabins and houses all around
and stuff around wherever they got their land. They packed

(01:35:31):
up about a week's worth of rations, I believe, and
uh and decided they were gonna wonder off and try
to maybe see what kind of big game they had
out there or whatever. And they got out there a
couple of days into their trip, two or three days
maybe more. Uh, they came upon some footprints, some tracks
in the mud in the middle of the swamp that

(01:35:52):
were terrifying to them because they were like twenty plus
inch human human tracks in the in the swamp. And uh,
and they got scared. They were like, what the heck,
So they just packed up their stuff and they headed
back out home. You know, they didn't want to be
stuck out there with something that was you know, you know,
twelve feet tall or whatever. And and so when they

(01:36:15):
got back to their home, word got out that they
had encountered something huge out in the swamp. They don't
think they saw anything, but they had these tracks. And
so some trackers and some trappers from Florida. Floridadians are
always rowdy as hell. Man, they come up. They just
want to They just want to party and go go
find weird stuff out in the woods. And I love that.

(01:36:36):
I love it. So Uh, they kind of like demanded
those guys take them out there showing where these tracks were.
And they got out there, and uh, they were confronted
by giants and and and the story always went, which
was perplexing to me. Uh, the story was always told
like bigfoots. They were they encountered bigfoots out here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
That was actually testing me as remote viewing target, a
blind target, and I was seeing giant humans, okay that
were involved in this. And what happened was they got
out there and they found that where the tracks were,
and there was like a giant laying in wait for them,
and it attacked all these these men and they unloaded
all their rifles on them. The guy ended up ripping

(01:37:19):
a head off of one of the guys and tore
their limbs off, and two of the two men survived.
Out of seven, I think there were seven men that
went total, and two of them survived and went back
and told everybody, you know, we got ambushed by a
giant out there. But at the Okefinokee Attack of eighteen
twenty nine, giant attack. I have a friend who is

(01:37:41):
from the Okeok Swamp area. She didn't live in the swamp,
but she's from down there. She told me, she said, well,
it's actually a well known fact with the locals that
there's been a race of giants living in the middle
of that swamp for centuries.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Oh yeah, I mean, we did do the histories and stuff.
So there's lots of Native American tribes that were giant tribes.
One that really comes to mind is the Allegaywe that's
from like the northern Pennsylvania area, but they were said
to have moved south they got pushed out, But that's

(01:38:16):
up there next to that. We call it the Allegainey
River now, but it just got perverted over time. It
was originally the alle Gaywe River, the Giant River named
after these tribe of giants and yeah, so you have
all these stories like that. I even tell people the

(01:38:40):
city Ka. It was another race that the Indians talked about,
and they called them the stone skin giants, but they
talked about their their skin was just so tough that
their spears and stuff couldn't break through it. And I've
been postulated, could that be a faral giant? They just
had really tough, thick, furry skin that was hard to peers.

(01:39:01):
And you have so many explorers like a Mayre of
a Spucci. Uh, he was an explorer, and he has
so many accounts in his journals, like one of them
when he went to Aruba, they called it the Island
of the Giants. And the story goes is when he
got off the boat, he was met by two giant

(01:39:22):
women on the beach that he said that on their
knees would still be head and shoulders taller than them.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
And they led them back to the village and it
was just a village of women and they brought them
in this their tent and fed them and all this stuff.
They said. Of course there was a language barrier, but
they were, you know, trying to communicate with them. They
were giving them food and all this kind of stuff,
and that the men were even planning to steal one

(01:39:52):
or two of the women to take back on the
boats take good back to England to like show and tell.
And they said that in the middle of their discussion
and eating, that the men all came back. That there's
a huge group of them. That they must have been
out hunting or something. But they come back home and
found these men in their teepees with their women, and

(01:40:13):
you know, he said, there was it was tints. That
they were arguing and yelling and pointing, and that in
his journal he said, I had no idea what they
were saying, but it was obviously a conflict, he said.
So we started easing out, he said, and they started
following us, he said, So we just ran, he said.
They were shooting arrows at us, throwing stones at us,
and all this kind of stuff. He said. That they

(01:40:35):
made it back to their boat, he said, but even
while they were trying to sell away, that even the
giants were like waist deep in the water still coming
at their boats. That they actually had to ire off
cannon at them to scare them to stop pursuing them.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Oh my god, that sounds intense. They're just kidding. Sorry,
I've got bad jokes times. That is wild.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
Led Zeppelin, I think it was led Zeppelin, but the
back door man, I want to be the old back
old man, right, the giant man thought that the women
had a taste for the little man.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
For the little guys, I know, right, I mean they
would have been like leprechauns to those to those women. Okay,
I'm just saying that's wild.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Ibies.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
They're just little babies. Oh my gosh. That reminds me
of like the what is that like the little fairies
that like will take the changelings, you know, like they
take your the human babies and they're replacing them with
like older trolls and stuff, and so like the humans
are looking down and like that didn't let my baby.
That sound like an old you know, an old troll

(01:41:45):
the size of a.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Baby, you know, dumpster babies.

Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Oh my gosh, that is crazy. That is so wild.
There are so many stories of giants on all these islands,
Like you mentioned the Solomon Islands earlier and uh and
a lot of people say, well, the Solomon his were
sasquatch type creatures. Others say they're giants. And uh, and
I just see giants.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
Giants.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Yeah, just Harry Harry Wildman. You know, Harry Wildman. There's
so many pretty famous cases of like wild men to
all over. Like take for instance, in Florida. You know,
we've got the Kentucky wild Man up in Kentucky, we
got Tennessee wild men.

Speaker 4 (01:42:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
Down in Florida, they had the O Cheesy Pond wild
Man and other wild men as well. But but that
that fella was found in the O Cheesy Pond and
taken captured and taken to the state capitol or the
governor's mansion. The Governor's like, I don't want this thing. Uh.
They took him up to the Chattahoochee Hospital in North
Florida and uh in Chattahoochee, Florida, and he lived out

(01:42:47):
his days there until he died. They say that he's
buried there on the property somewhere. But he was a
wild I don't know if he was giant. It was
a wild man, wild Harry Man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
A lot of people don't realize it either, but I didn't.
I talked with doctor Judd Burton. I've done a show
with him about a year ago now maybe, but we
talked about the Sasquatch prophecies and even like in the
European lore, they talked about these wild men and that
they were basically sages, that they had prophetic knowledge and

(01:43:20):
all this kind of stuff. And I talk about this
in the book. I got several examples of these stories.
They are just fascinating. But these people would treat them
kind of like leprechauns, that they wanted to try to
catch them and get the pot of gold. But if
they called the wild man, they would torture it and
do all kinds of things to try to get it
to reveal future knowledge and prophetic knowledge and wisdom out

(01:43:44):
of them, because they were like sages. But when you
get to some of these stories of this Sasquatch prophecy,
doctor Judd talked about Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett both
had documented journals and left of what we would call
Bigfoot encounters. And Davy Crockett or waitment No, Daniel Boone,

(01:44:08):
him and his son was up in Kentucky and that
in his journals and letters said that they spotted one
and it charged his son and grabbed his son, picked
him up over his head body slammed him, almost killed him,
but he fired off a shot and hid it and
then it run off. But then Davy Crockett, when he
went to Texas to fight at the Alamo, in his

(01:44:31):
letters that he wrote back home, he said that Harry
wild Man, this humanoid Harry creature, appeared to him and
told him knew him by name, and said go home,
Davy Crockett, you will find nothing but death here. And

(01:44:51):
he said that he just strick it up to a
bad chicken, that he might have ate some bad.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Meat, got a little salmonella that night.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
He was yes, but he wrote that in his letters
back home, and so it was documented, and he did.
He never made it home. He died on that trip.
It was like this wild man with prophetic knowledge came
to him and gave him a prophecy and tried to
warn him, but he didn't listen.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
God, this is all new to me. I didn't know
that they were seen as prophets and seers and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
I didn't know a lot of the ancient legends that that's
they say they're like sages.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Oh my gosh, Well, I need to do a little
more dig in on that, and UH have.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
To bring a good book that I used to research
a lot of this stuff, and I talk about it.
I give, I give credit where credit is due in
my book Where is it? Ah, there it is. I've

(01:45:51):
got so many h.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Here. Let me let me make you bigger. On the
streams we can all see it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Yeah. The wild Man and by Nick Redforn.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Oh wow, very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
He's from Europe, so a lot of these stories and
legends are from our friends across the pond.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Across the pond. Oh my gosh, that's awesome. That's really awesome. Yeah.
I'm going to do somewhere digging into that, because I
as much as I've talked about wild men, I have
never covered that angle, which.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
I don't know if it's just a European thing, but
all the ones he talks about in his book, that's
how they kind of referred to him. There's even a
story of two brothers that laid out liquor strong drink
with some food out in the woods, and that the
wild Man found it and drank it, and where he
had never had strong drink before, he become heavily intoxicated,

(01:46:48):
and that's how they captured it, and that they locked
it up and when it sobered up, told him that,
you know, we'll give your freedom if you tell us this, this,
and this, and traded his freedom for prophetic knowledge so
that they got him drunk and captured him and pride
some information out of him before they let him go.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
That's really cool. That's really interesting. Gosh, I can't believe
I haven't heard about that before. So awesome. That is awesome. Well,
I do have one more thing. I know we're about
to hit the two hour mark over here on the show,
and this I'm telling you honestly, like I've got so
many things like I would love to bring you back
on the show and let's talk some more about some

(01:47:31):
of these things in the future. There's so much more
we could talk about. But one of the last things
that I wanted to ask you about and show you, like,
I know, I knew we were going to get into
some of like the biblical prophecies and like the just
some of the stories about like Esau and stuff. And
there is a painting at the Sistine Chapel, and I

(01:47:51):
know my audience will be familiar with this. I haven't.
I don't know if I've talked about this too much.
I know my friends Jane and garyl Over at Midwest
Night Watchers have shown this before, but there seems to
be like a in this painting. It seems to be
a couple of bigfoots or wild men on here, and
I thought i'd show this today. Let's see, I'm gonna

(01:48:11):
have to take my ticker down there off the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
And this payment that this painting is known as the
Last Judgment.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Okay, Michelangelo, Yes, okay, what do you know about this?
And what do you think? There's big foots in this painting?

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
Oh? Yeah? Uh? And honestly, a friend told me about
it while I was writing the book, and I discovered it,
and I did. I took a screenshot of the zoomed
in portion that we're talking about here and placed it
in my book and talked about it. But yeah, I mean,
it's plain as day. You got two wild men, bigfoot,
whatever you want to call them, but to me, it's unmistakable.

(01:48:49):
And one even has a single horn on top of
his head, it does. And they're in a cave where
we be talking about all night tonight. Okay. That the
lower and legends is that they are cave dwellers. That's
how they travel and get around. And this is the
last judgment. They are hiding from judgment, and I talk

(01:49:12):
about it in the book. It's my theory that Michelangelo,
of course, this is an ancient guy. You know, he
was reading a lot of these ancient texts and stuff
that we've either lost or just stopped reading because it's
not in our quote unquote cannon that a lot of
these extra biblical texts lay out these wild men. And
I think that those two people are the serpent seed

(01:49:38):
as they was depicted in ancient writings, Esau being one
and then the one with the horn I believe to
be came because when you get into like the Lewis
Ginsburg legends of the Jews, the targums and stuff like that,
these rabbis talk about Cain's marking was that he was

(01:50:02):
cursed to be covered in hair from head to toe
and that he was given a single horn, and that
this is why he was so scared when the mark
was given to him and he was kicked out of
the family. That's why he was so afraid someone was
going to kill him, because he looked like this Harry
beasts creature. And the way the stories go and the targums,

(01:50:28):
you had this guy named lamec and in the Book
of Genesis, our Bible says one day he just comes
in from the field and he has two wives, and
he told his wife, if Kine was cursed, I'm going
to be, you know, doubly cursed because I just killed
a man and then my anger killed a youth. And
that's all it says. But when you go to the Targums,

(01:50:48):
it says that this event that took place that la
Mack was going blind in his older age and had
his son help him hunt. And on a hunt he
told his father where to point his bow, and she
and long story short, they killed Kain. And in his anger,
he's like, this is my relative Kine, and so for

(01:51:09):
the mistake, in his anger, kills his son. And the
Targum translator even said that Rashi was talking about he
thinks that it was a mistranslation or misunderstanding that when
God said, you know, curse is the man seven times
seven that kills Caine, he said he thinks that it

(01:51:31):
was supposed to infer that the vengeance on your brother's
blood will happen in the seventh generation. And when you
go to the genealogies, Lemec was the seventh from Cain.
So it kind of lines up with the Pargam story.
So I think that's who those two people are depicted

(01:51:52):
in that last judgment painting.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Oh that is wild. I'll pull this back up here
one more time. That is wild. I never noticed a
horn on his head.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Yeah, that's the two seeds little from the Old Testament.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
Oh man, Okay, Well that would explain why a lot
of people, you know, have in our conversation tonight, has
showing me this is why a lot of people do
believe that bigfoots today, sasquatch today are like Nephilon and uh,
you know, curse seeds or whatever. Okay, And you know,

(01:52:25):
I the more that I get into the research and
talk with people like yourself, like, the more I'm understanding
that now, okay, And I didn't I didn't want to.
I didn't want to go there back when I first
started doing the research with them, you know, just like
forest people, you know, and uh and and everybody has
their own opinions on it, of course, okay, And but

(01:52:46):
but that is I think that the Biblical perspective is
very important and a lot of what we're out there
experiencing today, And just like last weekend when I had
Mark Mayschek on the show and we were talking about
you know, they're all you know, there's so many different
just like with us, you know, with humans, there's all
different varieties and different beliefs and cultures. Yes, different types.

(01:53:08):
There's some people that are very angelic in some people
who are very demonic, okay. And it's the same with
a lot of these the beings that are out there
when it comes to the bigfoots and the dog men,
and there's some you know, that will eat you, and
there's some that will take care of you like your
like a grandma, okay. And so there's just a large spectrum.
But bringing the biblical perspective into all this is rather

(01:53:31):
interesting and very important for the conversation, I think. So
thank you for doing that for us today.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
You're welcome. It's just a perspective, you know. I mean,
the more perspectives we get on something, the better overall
of you we're going to get on something. And I'm
not saying that, you know, just like I said earlier,
a lot of people say it's this, A lot of
people say it's that. I'm that middle road guy. I
think it's this and that. So I'm not saying that.
I think that what I've talked about here today is
the answer and the only answer. I think it is

(01:53:59):
a p to the puzzle that not a lot of
people are talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
That's why we get along so well, because I think
it's this and that and all of it. Two I
always have I'm not I'm not just in the Wu camp.
I'm in the flesh and bone camp. I'm in the
Biblical camp in all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
Okay, you're in the Pan camp. I'm in pan out.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
And it'll pan out. Not the Peter Pan camp, Okay,
but yes, the Pan camp. It'll pan out. Oh, I'm
in the I don't know what I'm doing camp, That's
what I am. But uh, but that's awesome. Man, this
has been such a wonderful conversation tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:54:39):
Doc.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
I really do appreciate you being here, and.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
I appreciate you in your time. Let me get in
front of your audience and nerd out so I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Get heck, yeah, man, it is. It is amazing and
uh and I can't wait to read your book sometimes
I'm gonna I have not had a chance to read
your book yet, but I'm definitely going to purchase your book,
and I would love for you to tell the audience
about your book, your podcast, your website, anything you'd like
to promote tonight, go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
No, thank you, but yeah, the podcast is a Prometheus
Lens podcast. Anywhere you can consume content, you can find me.
Just search up Prometheus Lins Podcasts. The website is Prometheus
Lins podcast dot com. You can get a copy of
the book off the website directly from me and get
a signed copy and get some bookmarks and stickers and

(01:55:30):
little little goodie pack for that. When you go to
my website, it's got all the information for my PayPal, Vinmo,
all that kind of stuff. Just if you're in the
United States, send me twenty five bucks and I will
get you out at copy in the mail. But if not,
you can find it directly on Amazon. Ten dollars or
twenty dollars for the hard copy of ten dollars for

(01:55:51):
the digital. And I'm currently editing the audiobook and I'm
like seventy five percent done with that, so hopefully in
the next month or so, for those that can't read
or don't want to read, I'll have the audiobook option
for you within a month. I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
Is that going to be your voice narrating that audience.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Oh yeah, I've already read it and I'm just editing
it out. So don't listen to it late at night.
I've been told that I have a very soothing voice
and put people to sleep, So just don't listen to
it past eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
Oh my gosh, you do have a good voice. You
have a great voice.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Did I tell you that when I.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
First met you? I was, yeah, you have a great voice.
I think the guys were making fun of me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Yeah, they were aggravating you about it. Yeah. Yeah, Kevin,
Kevin was writing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:37):
I was like, I love you got a great voice
for podcasting. It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
He got a great voice.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Dog, Yeah, he gave me. He gave me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
That's what Kevin does.

Speaker 4 (01:56:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
He writes everybody so hard. So don't feel bad. He's
ruthless to everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Shout out to Kevin. Where the Weird Weird Ones are
podcast He's been on the channel. He's been on the
show too. He's hilarious. All those guys are hilarious. Man.
We have a great time together. Yeah, all right, this
is this is the book A books on the screen
right now, y'all. Everybody who's watching the show. If you're
listening to our voices on podcast platforms, please go check

(01:57:16):
the description box and and I'm gonna have links to
the podcast to your website as well, and to where
you can buy the epic of Esau, the book The
Birthright and Seed War by Justin Doc Brown. Okay, so man,
please come back and hang out with me again, Doc,
this is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
Yeah, anytime you just let me know, I will show
up and show out.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Heck, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. All right, cool,
all right, Well, thank you so much and everybody. Everybody
had a great time tonight. I hope y' all learned
a little something and I learned a lot tonight. And
I've got some more research to do on those psychic
wild men and stuff that's wild, literally wild. And I
want to think everybody for being here, all my moderators,

(01:58:03):
thank y'all so much. And I will be back live
on Monday with another fantastic show for you guys. So everybody,
please stay safe out there and keep your head on
the swivel. We are living in very strange times right now,
but don't live in fear no matter what. Okay, and
I'm sending all my love and light out to everybody tonight.

(01:58:24):
And Doc thanks again for being here. We'll see y'all
next time. Everybody have a great night.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Bye.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
It's it's sass. It so soon, but so so sis
s

Speaker 1 (02:00:00):
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