The "MallWorld" Dream Phenomenon: Connected by a Collective Subconscious

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Speaker 1 (00:57):
Well, good afternoon. Everybody is the Cryptid Huntress, and boy,
do I have a weird show for us today. I
am so glad that all you guys are here today. Man,
we are going to be covering a topic that we
have never probably discussed today and as a matter of fact,
it is new to me as well. It is called

(01:18):
the mall World dream phenomenon. And uh, and yes, we
are going to be talking about a collective consciousness type
of a dream that people all over the world are experiencing.
And uh, and we're going to figure out what this
is all about. Have you guys had the dream? That's
my question. Have you guys dreamed this?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
And uh?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
And I know that I have had some of my
own personal experiences with stuff just like this, and and
we're going to get to the root of it today.
We're going to try to at least and uh. Of
course I have Jane and Girl of Midwest Night Watchers
here in the studio with me today and uh, and
and Girl's done his own research on this, and uh,
we've got a lot of dot to connect. If you

(02:00):
guys are into the back rooms, if you're into liminal spaces,
and if you don't know what that is. We're going
to get into that today too. This is the show
for y'all if you're into all this stuff, and so
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(03:28):
I'm giddy over this. I actually got anxiety, y'all. Okay,
this is one of those shows where like, I did
the research on this, and I've gotten anxiety because it's
resonating with me. Recently, thousands of people around the world
have reported experiencing mall world Mall world dreams vivid mayze

(03:48):
like journeys through dream malls, dream malls filled with forgotten stores,
looping escalators, elevators that never stop going up and down,
you name it, just a bunch of nostalgic details. It
seems like these dreams are not random. They are part
of a growing cultural pattern with psychological and creative significance.

(04:14):
Mall World dreams often walk the line between reality and
lucid exploration, and so many people are experiencing these dreams
that it has inspired a community on Reddit called the
mall World that brings together lucid dreamers. And I guess

(04:34):
somebody had written dream hobbyists, so some people are they
user dreams as a hobby. Listen I love dream work
and stuff, and that's part of what me and my
remote viewing team worked on as a I don't know,
just as some practice with the remote viewing, we started
learning about dreams and how to control our dreams, how

(04:57):
to change our dreams because I don't know about y'all.
My dreams are like my reality, okay, and sometimes it's
hard to tell the difference between what's the dream and
what's reality. And that's kind of where we're going with
this today. Gosh, y'all, this is gonna be wild. I
do have Jane and garyl here of Midwest Night Watchers,
and they are going to help me try to make

(05:20):
some sense of this. Please help me. Welcome to the show,
Miss Jane Fountain and her husband Giryl of Midwest Night Watchers. Hey, y'all,
good morning, afternoon.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Whatever it is, it's it's both, it's.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Both as it is. Oh man, y'all, this is this
is really wild. We've we've got so much going on
in the world today, and I can only imagine everybody's
dreams are probably crazy at the moment. And I don't know,
some of us may not be able to remember our
dreams so much right now. Because of all this interference

(05:57):
with the five G and the Wi Fi and all
that kind of stuf stuff. It kind of makes sure.
It kind of stops you from dreaming so much. Jane,
and girl, I feel I've been dreaming lately. What are
your dreams like?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know what? I've had some weird dreams in the past,
but here lately it does seem like I've been in
a place with a bunch of people and I really
don't remember much of it. But when I do remember
certain dreams, I remember every single detail of it to
this day. So now I'm questioning was it an experience

(06:32):
or do they implants something in me? So I'm questioning everything.
Now I'm even questioning dreams. And now you drive by
malls and now I'm banded. Now I'm questioning malls.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, what about you? Girl?

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Oh yeah, I always have dreams, vivid dreams, usually in
color even.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
But uh, yeah, it must be nice.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't think I've been to the mall in my dreams.
But this seems to be a really hot topic with everybody.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, I've never heard did this until you guys brought
this up last night and I went mall dreaming. Now
I'm questioning my own dreams.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh yeah, mall dreaming. And uh and I got to say,
I hadn't put a lot of thought into it because
I personally have not been remembering my dream so well
when I wake up in the morning.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
And it used to be that I would keep a
dream journal by my bed and I would write down
my dreams every morning. And then Wi Fi came along,
and uh and it's a little harder, I think for
me and a lot of other people to remember our dreams.
And uh and I got. And I got to say,
when I was out in the woods this past weekend,
I had a download dump in my dream state because

(07:41):
I was I was, I was not surrounded by any
kind of you know, frequencies or any anything that was
going on that would hinder my dream state. And uh
and I got it was overload. I got so many
messages in my dreams and it was pretty wild. Uh
But nonetheless, nonetheless, dreams are getting a little weird.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah. Oh yeah, it seems like I used to remember
a little bit of it for a few minutes and
then it would fade away. Now once you wake up,
it's just like, wow, I do kind of remember I
was someplace. It's just they're disappearing fast and I'm not
not remembering much details at all.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yes, okay, so you're talking about the malls, Chicky Blue says,
I love the smell of a good mall. Well, you
know what, that's that cookie, that's that cookie shop, isn't it.
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Cookie and hot pretzels and you name it. It's all there.
You know, fresh clothing, clothes, you know, new clothing has
a certain smell to it a lot of times, so
you mix all that together when you're walking through that mall.
The roasted but it's a century overload sometimes.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
It is. I mean, that's just it's the nostalgia of
the mall and and the malls are something that my son.
My son has been to the mall before. Several times
he's been the malls. But that's going to be you know,
they're kind of like becoming more obsolete now. And uh,
and I don't know about y'all, but at my side
of the town, it's not so safe to go to
a mall. There's shootings there, and it's just like, you know,

(09:10):
it's actually safer to stay home and click a button
and have those things delivered to your house, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, half our malls are closed up. There's no series,
there's no JZ Panties, there's no Burgners or none of
these big giant stores. So half the malls are gone.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, that's really sad. Yeah, because I love I love
them all. One of the last times I went to
the mall I've been, I went to Kennesaw in Kennesall,
Northwest Georgia kind of and there's a town center mall
and it seems like a lot of the shops, a
lot of the stores had closed, and some of the
I'm gonna say older, you know, let's just say retired.

(09:50):
You don't got to be older retired today. But uh,
some you know, retired couples and friends would go in
there and they would walk. They walk the mall in
their tennis shoes to get exercise. Yeah, because there's like
nobody in there.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
My uncle was one. Yeah. Yeah, they call them mall walkers.
They go on there and they just keep walking and
walking and walking. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Man, yeah, probably like some of these dreams like He'll
Billy herb has He'll billy mall world. WTF thought it
was just me almost every night. Yeah, kids, these days,
they're not going.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
To experience the mall like when we were little, you know,
especially at Christmas time, going to the mall was just amazing.
You just could not wait. So, yeah, they're missing out
on what we experience as a gorgeous mall that has
every single shop that was opened.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh yeah, and Santa Okay. So Santa Claus and the
Easter Bunny. We're always at the mall that was our
every year. We would my mom would take us, my
sister and my brother and I. We would always go
get our picture made with Santa Claus and we'd get
our picture made with the Easter Bunny. And sometimes we'd
switch up the mall so if the dependent upon if
they look the saying from last year, whoever had the

(11:03):
mall with the best looking Easter Bunny, that's where we
would go and the best look in Santa Claus. Okay,
And and so we were and that was just a
part of my childhood, you know. So I would assume
that's maybe why a lot of people are having these
dreams today. Uh you know, maybe it's something that in

(11:24):
this from a psychological stance, is like and I'm no doctor, okay,
but uh by any means uh but uh, but maybe
it's just like that something that we're losing and we're
kind of like grasping onto it and trying to make
sense of it. In our dreams, it's like where where's
our childhood? And and and you go into these malls.

(11:46):
We need to get into like exactly what this is? Okay,
but uh but in these in these mall world dreams,
they're talking about how there's nobody there. Sometimes there's people
in these malls, but usually there's nobody there, and you're
just walking around these the malls like in a like
a labyrinth. It sounds like a nightmare, right absolutely.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean I think I think it's a familiar thing,
kind of kind of like how we get used to things.
And I think so everybody has a vision of their mall.
Like we said, we all went there as teenagers, as
kids whatever, you know, as adults taking our kids from
the malls. So I think it's a familiar thing for everybody.
I think everybody has an experience in a mall, so

(12:28):
why wouldn't it be in our dreams? But the weird
thing is the collective aspect. Why are people meeting up
or recognizing people in their dreams and then seeing them
on the streets. You like, I think I saw that person.
You know, you start thinking about where did I see
that person at? Then you start realizing what it was
in my dreaming the mall.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
You know what? That just made me think of mass
mass alien abductions. Oh and there's that connection to the
Secret Space pro two garyl We were just talking about
that before the show.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Today, right, Wow, Yeah, I know there's a if you
watch the tiktoks and the youtubes and all that, there's
a big connection between the Gate program, which is the
advanced program for kids in school where they get the testing,
the hearing, the Zener cards, I mean everything, the ink blots,

(13:23):
auditory frequencies in the hearing boosts. So I mean there's
everybody talks about how they were inducted in these programs
or these testing. So it has a link to the
Secret Space Program through that way.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Also, there's not a link to those little photo boosts.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
There, little photo boosts and the malls, the photo booths, that's.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
What I'm talking about, like a jump room. Everybody use
those photo boosts things. Oh gosh, well that's creepy.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I love those photo boosts.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, everybody did.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, you know, I feel like I feel like I
remember some of the Secret Space testimony. Some of the
Secret Space Program survivors and testimonies involved empty malls. If
I'm not mistaken, it's either Tony rod Riggs or maybe
it was even Tyler for a Journey the Truth, somebody.
I remember somebody talking about abandoned malls. Uh in their testimony.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Used to be abandoned our old Walmarts when they changed Walmarts,
and empty Walmart's all over. Now it's malls. Oh, this,
this rabbit hole is going down deep.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
It is, it is very deep.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
It is.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Nathan Davis, thank you so much for that supersticker. He says,
I can't remember any other dreams in previous years, and
I had two unusual ones six weeks ago, twice in
one night. Yes, we have to pay attention to our dreams.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
We do.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Thank you so much, Nathan for your support. I appreciate that.
And and so okay, let's get into and I can't
get that thought of like a mass alien abduction or
some kind of mass abduction to you out of my
mind after you said that, girl. Okay, so it's like
where because that's people describe like, you know, I hang

(15:02):
out with a lot of people who believe they have
had been abducted at times, and they say, well, you know,
I've been walking down the street and I noticed, you know,
it's like my neighbor was in the spaceship with me
last night, you know, or the person I saw at
the grocery store, I know them from being abducted with them.
So I don't know, maybe this is kind of similar.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
What if what if your mall world dream is really
where they're taking you. Maybe maybe you're getting abducted and
putting into this mall world and that's why everybody's having
dreams about it. So maybe maybe it's not a physical
place like we think of as a mall, but maybe
maybe it's in your subconscious. Maybe it's another form that

(15:47):
the aliens or whoever can put you in this world.
And that's why you start recognized people because they're all abductees.
They're all in this secret space program. Maybe it's a
meeting place. Maybe it's a jail, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, like a a human corral. Yeah, let's see. I
wanted to pull some of this up. Let's see shared
dream spaces let's see. Let's let's pull up this reddit
right here. How about that. Let's show this to the
audience right quick, Let's see if this is pulling up. Okay,

(16:22):
here we go. All right, So this is the reddit
page actually for the mall world, and people im going
here and post about their remembrances, the things that remember
in their dreams. A lot of times it's you know,
like this right here, slides and swimming pools and just
these limit liminal spaces. Now, if you guys are want

(16:44):
to walt liminal spaces, A liminal space is it's a
place normally full of people, okay, but there's nobody there
in this time. So it's almost like an uncunny like
the way I described it as uncanny valley, you like
where something's just off. Okay, but uh, but like almost

(17:06):
like it's they describe it as being alien like and
like the uncanny valley, And and there's just a lack
of people. There's nobody there. It's just like a wide
open space. And and here this is really interesting right here,
this is the map. Uh this was actually on TikTok
it says uh Hilton on TikTok Okay. Now I did

(17:28):
see this woman's uh, her, I saw this person's TikTok,
and and this is detailed. Giryl, I know you you've
been watching this and you've paying attention to it. What
what do you think about this? This person is actually
drawn an entire map based off the.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Yeah she uh, I think it's Tilton. I don't know
if it's Hilton or not. But anyway, she she not
only experiences the mall, but she's ventured outside of the mall.
So as she's exploring these new worlds to her in
her dreams, she's mapping them out. So you got the hospital,
the school, the mall, and a lot of big cities

(18:07):
if you notice, I know some of our cities that
we go to the mall, the hospital, and some schools
and other buildings that she has on there right there
next to them in real life. So it wouldn't surprise
me that it's also in the dream world.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
And people are actually taking some of these maps and
adding to them, and they're all like people are agreeing
to like how they remember they were called being at
some of these same places. And you know, he'll Billy
Herb just says, I I don't usually get past the
mall parking lot. You know, I mean some of my

(18:45):
worst dreams that I've ever had, or me being stuck
in like an elevator or you know, just being stuck somewhere,
like in a constant state of like moving and not
getting anywhere. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I can't recall if I've been like in a mall
or not, but definitely I have. I've had real life
experience in these weird like back rooms. Okay, Like my
office was in something like a back room, okay, one
of my offices. I've had many offices in my former
my former life in the government corporate world, okay. And

(19:19):
and so that gives me anxiety on some of these things.
I'm going to show y'all in a little bit, okay,
But but I have dreams about stuff like that. Okay.
So let's see.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's almost like the mall that never closes.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
The mall, yes, or the office building that never closes
or you get locked and uh and you know, and
and two. Another recurring dream that I always had was
like I never got my diploma and I never graduated
from either high school or college. Oh wow, and I'm
constantly trying to go back to like to get those
last credits. But I did graduate from both. But like

(19:58):
those are my dreams, Like I haven't finished what I started. Yeah,
those are my recurrent those used to be my recurring dreams.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, it seems like it seems like that's a reoccurring thing,
whether you can't you have a goal or you have
a place you want to go in these in these
worlds and just like in the mall, if you have
a why, I mean, they have long hallways going to
all the stores and stuff, and it's like you never
get to the end or wherever you want to go.

(20:26):
It's just like this like stretches out into affinity in
the same way at the hospitals and the school pictures,
any liminal spaces, it seems like you know where you're going,
you want to get there, but it's just like never ending.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, it's almost like where you're getting attacked and you
you just you get your weapon out and it will
not fire and you're just trying like that. That's another
one of mine right there.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's like, uh, yell, and you can't. I've got those.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
These stinking dreams. I got anxiety thinking about it. But sometimes,
I mean, I said in the intro, you know, sometimes
my dreams are so real. It's like there's a fine
line between reality and a dream. And sometimes my dreams,
my dreams are even more real than my own reality.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Okay, so this is the same picture that you showed.
I took screen captures of closer up ones where they
have all the buildings that she's been exploring and visiting
her dreams, and she's been dreaming about this for a
long time. She started writing down a little bits and pieces.
Now she's finally putting them all together.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I can't believe she remembers so many little details.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
But I mean, there's an amusement park, there's churches, there's
I mean, you name it. She has it all listed
Outdoor Festival, which is really weird because I just saw
that daf Punk had a Fortnight and everybody that's ever
played Fortnite knows about the world that you can create
in Fortnite and all the adventures you go on. Well,

(22:03):
at the end of the Fortnite Live event, they had
almost like a mall world in that video.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Oh they did. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I have to
go to well, my son plays Fortnite just about every day.
I have to ask him about that.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
They had a live event with Fortnite in conjunction with Fortnite,
and it was almost like a made up mall world
at the very end that they were experiencing.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh that's kind of creepy a little bit, but it
makes you wonder. Okay, this is very detailed. Look, I
mean I have Vigners. I'm gonna call him Vigner's my
dreams like a little bit of me being here and
a little bit of me jumping to their like quantum
jumping throughout my dreams. Right, I don't think that I
can I can remember my dreams being this continuous where

(22:49):
I would actually like put together a map like that. Girl.
It's almost like it's like one of those AI games.
What is that where they can't remember what it is.
It's like some kind of like video game, like in
a simulation. The SIMS is that they called the Sims
maybe or something Microcraft.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Remember playing Oregon Trail and places like that, you had
to draw out your own little maps to try to
remember where you were going and what you've been through.
And that's kind of what they're doing here, is they're
going through these simulations or these dreams they're trying to
map out, okay, where they're visited so they can get back.
And as a matter of fact, I just saw on

(23:29):
TikTok yesterday that a group that know each other but
they're from different parts of the country or even another continent.
They're trying to meet up in mall world in the
food court. They want to meet in the food court
during their dreams, so they're trying to plan a group
meeting consciously in their dream world.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Geryl, have you ever shared had a shared dream with
someone like where you like you and Jane for instance,
Have you, guys ever had a dream where you both
remembered the same dream and you were there together?

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yet?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I haven't, but I've heard of people who are happening them.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, Okay, well I have I have, I have done
that and uh and I have a friend now and
it may just be because I'm in the whole remote
viewing world, okay, and uh. And we work on doing
that kind of stuff. We actually put our intention into
doing something like that.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
And when you put your intention into it and you
start practicing with like your dreams and being able to
change your dreams, changing the outcome in your dreams if
something bad happens, going back and fixing it, waking up
thinking about it and then going back to sleep. And
not everybody's able to do that. I know, we got jobs,
we got alarm clocks going off, and kids to get
to school. Sometimes, if you have a chance, it's interesting

(24:48):
to be able to work on your dreams. Okay, I
call it dream work, but uh, but I have definitely
met people in my dreams before, purposely, intentionally, just to
I think, just to prove that we could do it.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, that's that's strange that you mentioned it. Because we
had a guest on our show, Dana Louise, and she
she's a an abductee, and uh, she and her neighbor
across the street and one of her best friends all
have appeared in the same dream and so they collectively
do that. They'll okay, let's go here tonight. And they

(25:23):
actually went to like a Halloween party, and they explored
this house and they were all together, and they even
experienced a classroom, like they were sitting in a classroom
and I was going then there was like a big
giant head that was teaching them, and uh, the one,
the one just like a normal kid couldn't couldn't stay

(25:44):
awake because she started falling asleep, and she slipped out
of her chair and then she was gone out of
the dream, so the other two were still there.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
WHOA, wow, that's that's pretty awesome. You know. I think
there's just a whole lot more to dreams than we're
aware of. And uh, and of course, going through the
gateway process that I've done with the learning remote viewing,
where we learn that we are more than this physical body. Okay,
we're all just more. We're all we're limitless beings, honestly,
but but our dreams have so much to do with

(26:13):
our everyday lives. And uh, and I was taught pretty soon,
like right off the bat, with the remote viewing practices
that we were doing, that we have to dream at night.
And uh, you know, they have those like those dream
studies where I don't know if it's like a Russian
sleep study or something, where people were kept awake. It's
aund was like a form of torture, and and they

(26:35):
went absolutely mad for not sleeping. And it's not just
because your body needs the rest, it's because your brain
needs time to get out to like make sense of everything,
and uh, you have to be able your your your
mind has your subconscious has to be able to, like,
you know, recalibrate. I think throughout the day, so uh

(26:56):
at night. That's that's the main purpose of sleeping, is
what I was told. So oh wow, yeah, we'll see
what you got here at GARYL. Let's pull it up.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I got this like a typical thing that you might
see in the mall, like you're talking about now, or
they're empty, but as you look, you almost see people
at the end of this, and that's what people are,
like you were talking about, experiencing their dreams. So it's
just a typical mall that you might remember or a view,
but it's almost like you never get to the end.

(27:25):
I mean, it's like a liminal space that just keeps
getting longer and longer the farther you try to get
to wherever you want to go.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Oh wow, I get claustrophobic looking at that, And I
know claustrophobic means like you're in a confined space, but
like that's how I feel, is agroaphobic. I don't know,
maybe I got the wrong word, but I don't like
that feeling.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't like it. I used to love malls, go
to you know, on high school and stuff. Now the
malls are just creepy now it weird vibes in them.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
But it's like they're it's just like a world where
everything's empty. It's like you said, it's an abandoned mall.
Or is this just a place where they're keeping you
during your dreams or I don't know, it's just but
then all of a sudden, you'll go to one where
you'll have, uh, you'll have a bunch of people. You'll
see people like you like you talked about friends, or

(28:19):
you'll notice somebody or maybe you'll see somebody on the
street and you know us, Hey, they were in the
mall last night my dream, or you'll finally put two
and two together. So this depends on when you're dreaming
or what's going on maybe in your life that maybe
you'll meet friends, maybe there'll be non uh non active
players or you know NPCs. Who knows what's in your dream?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Oh my gosh, Well, I have done shows where we
have talked about Reptiliay, okay, this is this is another
little rabbit hole we can kind of detour into a
little bit reptilians in abandoned malls.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Oh yeah, and like like the Miami Mall.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
The Miami Mall aliens. Yeah, Andrew or somebody in the
chat earlier had mentioned that the Miami Mall aliens that
happened about what two years ago?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Now now I think, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Uh, that happened. But but I have to wonder, like
are malls placed on I hate to say, like lay lines,
like a like a shopping a sports arena would be on.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
We talked about the looche, talk about the emotions, we
talk about all that kind of stuff, and like places
where malls are, that's like a place of nostalgia of
stressed too stress. I used to get stressed out when
I go to the mall. I don't like being around people,
and you know, you're spending all this money and it's
like the kids are running wild. You know. It's a

(29:49):
place of consumerism. It's like consume, consume. It's like that
movie with the Obey movie. What was that called we
talk about all the time live Yeah, kind of like that, but.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
You must go by go to this shop Obey consume.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, always uh.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Ra out your credit cards.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
But but it makes me wonder, like are these places
just like you know, I think, Jane, you had mentioned
the walmarts and stuff like we had abandoned walmarts, abandon
shopping centers everywhere. But did they actually sit on something
that's you know, like I want to say, a lay
line or are they strategically placed in certain places for
I don't I'm not saying reptilians, but I'm saying like

(30:36):
there could be something to it.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
And this is another thing that people a lot of
times have fear over escalators, Like you said, during the dreams,
they're they're always running and and sometimes they stretch out
where you almost can't get to the top or you
you see it and you can't get on escalator.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
He get caught in the steps.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
I mean, that's a big fear for people, especially kids,
you know, the first time getting out there, unsure on
getting on the on the steps.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, it's great, grabbed the pant leg you know, suck.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Yeah, I have. I actually have PTSD from an escalator
from when I was a kid. My brother grabbed a
blow up and my mom is in the chat. I'm
sure she should remember this quite well, but my my
little brother was like three years old, maybe, and he
went up to a mannequin. They had a beach ball,
like a blow up beach ball with the mannequins with

(31:40):
the in the clothing section by an escalator, and he
grabbed the beach ball and it rolled up underneath the
escalator arm. That was like being flown back into the
insidele and the ball got stuck there and with his
hand in it, and uh and it. Oh man, that's
just a horrible that's a terrible core memory as a kid.
But it actually the ball actually ended up popping and

(32:01):
it made a loud noise because if I hadn't of
his hand would have he would have been sucked into
that thing. And by the way, I just listen, I
used to be married to an elevator escalator mechanic. Okay,
And I can tell y'all never wear Okay, this is
just this is for entertainment purposes only, but this is
very important. Be careful if you wear crocs, those shoes.

(32:23):
It's like the the the climsy shoes on an escalator.
I was told that more people lose their legs and
their feet from wearing those things. They get sucked into
those escalator steps. Okay, so please, I know it's not
it's not so fun. Fact. But please be careful with.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
That, y'all.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Okay, these days, I know, right, another reason to not
go to the mall. But just don't write the escalator
if you have those shoes on, definitely don't let your
kids on there, Okay, and they get sucked in with
that material. Yea, yes it is, but but nonetheless. Okay. Well,

(33:02):
let's let's talk a little bit about all what all
this intels, okay, and what people are remembering here. You
said Costco is like that, Okay, So here's what the
overall details include. Almost on almost every single person's dreams,
the escalators lead nowhere, or they cycle back non functional

(33:23):
maps and signs, a mix of abandoned and operational stores
and vague or familiar faces from the past. There are
long corridors that never end, looping layouts, and stores that
look familiar but sell strange or obsolete items. Strange items.
I wonder what that could be.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
It creates a sense that these dreams might be tapping
into something deeper than individual memory, perhaps even a shared
subconscious And U and somebody in the chat and said, well,
if I can't tell if I'm in a dream. I
try to read something in my dream. Now, there are
ways that you can decipher if you are having a
dream or if this is not a dream. Okay, sometimes

(34:09):
we don't know the difference. Uh. There's three main three
or four main things that we have. Try to read something,
and that's one of them. If it's written in gibberish,
you're dreaming.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Gibberish.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
If it's chickens, I mean some of us have chicken
scratch anyways, handwriting, Okay, but uh they say that, but
try to read it a billboard, a pamphlet, a sign.
It's almost like AI, y'all.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Wow, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Because when we put in, we type in like AI
and we're like, hey, give me a like I'll say,
like give me a military outfit on a dog or something,
and uh, and the patches will be in gibberish.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Mmm.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, So that's weird. So where where's the lot where
that's like a gray area between AI and dream state?

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Right?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Does anybody bought something and will up and found it
arriving in the mail or something on the kitchen table
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well that would be a glitch in the matrix. Yeah, yeah,
would I bet they have. Okay, another another way to
tell if you're dreaming, flip a light switch. If you
can't flip a light switch or the light doesn't come
on or whatever. I mean, you might need a change
your light bulb, or you might be dreaming, Okay, might
be dreaming. And also try to look in a mirror.

(35:25):
That's that's the last one. Try to look in a mirror.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I knew that.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I knew that Barry Littleton was going to show up today.
I called it. I was just saying before that we
went live, I was like, I bet Barry would love
to be here for this one because we're talking about
the targeted dreams.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, biggling right now too, I can.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
That's another thing about dreams that a lot of times
you're not really necessarily the active player in your dreams.
You're just like a viewer. You're like remote viewing almost
in your where you're you're just watching other people or
or non players act out whatever they're doing, and you

(36:09):
don't really interact very much with them. You're just watching.
But it takes it takes practice, and eventually you can
start opening doors, you can start grabbing stuff or walking
to places you want to go, not where they're taking you,
but where you want to explore. And that's a big,
big thing though, like you were talking about before, like consciously,

(36:29):
you know, actively trying to change your dreams or do
something in your dreams like this start off like like
picking up small items.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah. The main thing that I used to do was
to establish that I was in a dream, Okay, and
uh and and there are different ways. I mean I
used to like they literally say, like, well, pinch me
in my dreaming, right, That's actually something that I used
to do. I remember myself doing that, like well, if
I can feel this, I'm not dreaming, okay, and stuff

(37:02):
like that. But but yeah, it's okay, Barry says targeted
dream incubation turning dreams into memories and those into reality. Oh,
targeted dream incubation, all right, incubation. We I have been
really perplexed in the past over this idea that through

(37:25):
our let's say, wireless networks in our homes, in our businesses,
there is a way that we can be targeted to
have things put into our dreams, incubated into our dreams.
Maybe I don't know if that's exactly what this is Berry,
but I joke around about waking up wanting a McMuffin,

(37:48):
if you know what I mean. Yeah, that's that's a
scary thought. And and it's it's way more of a
reality than we can ever know of it absolutely.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I mean, there's always that ta talk about the fortune
five hundred companies, you know, getting into dreamscapes where they're
actually putting billboards or or like almost in the movies
where they have a sponsor where you always see coke
or pepsi or a certain car, and all these movies
where they're starting to do that in dreams. I guess now,
so you you like, you might have product placement in

(38:20):
your dreams where you want Tacos this night or McDonald's
or whatever it is. You know, the only thing I
hate to see is uh is bad enough in real life,
but all of a sudden, if you go to a
mall world and you start able to buy stuff out
of their shops.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh man, consume, consume. You know you got to You
gotta wonder like just from the you know, And like
I said, Barry and I were kind of talking about
the infrasound and the ultrasound and things like that, the
frequencies that can affect us in different ways, and I
got hit with it. Harley Owens and I both got
hit with some kind of infrasound over the weekend by

(39:03):
either man made technology or cryptids. We're not sure. But
if we can get hit with that kind of stuff
out in the middle of the woods like that, imagine
what we have around us with all the electronics in
our homes, right and stuff, and there's it is one
hundred percent possible that we could all be getting the
same downloads over different networks and stuff like that, And like,

(39:27):
where is the line drawn between like, you know, just
us normal everyday people, you know, not suspecting that we're
having things downloaded into our dreams at night and stuff.
And I hate to say this, but like people who have,
you know, even memories of being in things like the
even I'm not saying everybody, but maybe a couple of

(39:49):
some people, like with the secret space programs and stuff
like that too. It's like, I don't know, I just
I get very confused sometimes when we get in these conversations.
It's like, well, where's the line drawn here? There's no line,
absolutely line.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Most like you start believing one thing and then years
later you twist your ideas around, like, all right, I'm
believing something different. Now, you've got to have an open
mind and a lot of this and not be set
on one thing because you change your views.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
That's right, Thank you, Barry. Barry says Jessica. I can't
see today. Jessica just described the wireless body area network.
It can be targeted remotely or through implants that are
really biosensors and semiconductors. Wow, okay, hear me out y'all.
How many people have remembered having some sort of an abduction,

(40:44):
an alien abduction, through either a regression or through just memories,
and then they have an implant inside of their body.
How many of these people who are having these small
world dreams have implants in them? Maybe that's kind of
maybe that's what's going on.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Absolutely, you know. The weird thing is that. And I
just thought of this, as you know, we're having a
difficult time these days with AI what's real, what's not real?
AI actresses? Now we have that going on where they're
going to be having complete movies with AI actors that

(41:23):
you so you don't have real people performing in these
real life movies. Wow, So how is that going to
stop us? From our dreams when we're experiencing real world
and then at night time we're experiencing the same stuff,
going to malls, going to restaurants, doctors, appointments. How are

(41:43):
we going to be able to tell real life from
our dream world at some point?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Well?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
I think that's part of this whole transhumanist movement as well,
isn't it. It's kind of like blurring the lines between technology, AI,
fantasy and reaction and like, what is what is reality?
Here we go again, y'all? What does it mean to
be human? At this point? And I think our dream
state is part of our humanness and and it is

(42:11):
being encroached upon by AI, okay, and and technology at
this point. I mean, brain chips, all that stuff, neurallink whatever,
it's all. It's all connected. And I think we're at
a moment right now where everything is merging together, and
it's it's probably been merging together for a long time,
but we're just becoming aware of it right now.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I guess right, we're living in days that you don't
know what's real and what's not anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
No, have you guys noticed have y'all noticed the uptick
and all these videos on social media of all the
animals that are coming up to people and you can't
really tell it's AI or like Grandma's feeding bears and
jumping off of the cabinets and landing on the chandelier and.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Altely, what is this?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
You haven't know if it's real or not anymore?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I watched one today that
made my brain hurt. And the one that was a
dog was gonna lick a woman's face and her face
turned into a lettuce and it exploded everywhere, and I
was like, yeah, I've had enough of the Internet today.
I've had enough with the Internet for today. Her face

(43:25):
it was weird. It was weird. It's stuff like that that, like,
I just don't even want to get online anymore. It's weird.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
It times it is.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Okay, so let's see, I'm trying. I guess we're gonna
talk about the small world a little bit more. Okay.
And every time I see the mall world, it sounds
like I'm gonna say small world, like it's a small world,
after all. This is a small world after all. Now
let's let's let's talk about this sheared consciousness aspect. Okay,

(43:57):
I think This is important because we can talk about
the technlogy. We've kind of talked touched on that what
it could be technology, could be alien technology. But also
Carl Jung, Okay, he has a theory of the collective
conscious unconscious, not conscious, the collective unconscious. It suggests we
all carry universal symbols called archetypes in our subconscious minds.

(44:20):
The recurring structure in themes of Mall World Dreams may
be examples of this in action, because the people say
the same things about they're seeing the escalators that go
in circles. That's weird. Escalators going in circles, forgotten food courts,
and feelings of searching for something just out of reach.

(44:42):
And it's like the repetition of it is more than
just a coincidence, because it's like our collective minds are
constructing from a collective pattern, a narrative built from culture,
memory and shared emotional triggers. And it's just Okay, here's

(45:03):
the thing. It's almost like group think, right, but it's
on a subconscious level.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
And uh, and then you got you know, the Reddit page. Okay,
like I just showed you guys read it while ago
and uh, and these are people that are all in
putting their experience onto this page, and like one person
will add to it, another will add to it. And
we don't even know if these are real. If these people,
I mean, these can be trolls. It may not even

(45:31):
be real. This could all just be people just making
stuff up and putting on it. Anybody can put whatever
they want on the internet. M But there's people like
He'll Billy Herb here in the chat today, who's like, WHOA,
I've been having these dreams for a while. I didn't
know other people were having these dreams. And that's kind
of like what I was focused on on Reddit was

(45:53):
reading those It's like people that did not know this existed,
and they're seeing this for the first time. I'm ensuring
their experiences. So I don't know what do y'all think.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Yeah, I mean, it could it could be a collective
consciousness or unconsciousness like you said, of people just by
circumstance getting to the same place or experiencing the same
weird dreams, or like we said, is that part of
a program. Is that part of the gay program where
the kids got introducted to all this stuff for their

(46:28):
not necessarily paranormal or esp but to see what kind
of abilities they have and whether they would be good
for a program that we're not really gonna talk about,
but I think everybody knows what we're what we're saying.
So are these kids? Are they the ones that are
in these malls? Is it is it like a grooming
for that program? M M.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I think it could be. I mean, it's just it's
I like to say, there are no coincidences, okay, but
when it comes to these abandoned malls and it being
part of some of the Secret Space Program survivor's testimonies,
and then we've got like the whole aspect of the
possible aliens and reptilians being seen at some of these

(47:14):
abandoned malls and being posted up there and stuff. I mean,
we don't know what's going on with these abandoned malls,
but I think there could be a connection there. And
if you think of it on a scale of like
alien abductions as well, where people are having memories of
these mass abductions with their neighbors and people in their communities,

(47:34):
people they know, you know. Like I said, I go
to a lot of these conferences where we have people
who've had abduction experiences and they recall, you know, maybe
they didn't know a person until they met them at
a conference. They're like, wow, I know you wait, we
were abducted in a UFO together one time, right, and

(47:56):
they live across the world from each other, So wow,
maybe one of those kind of things. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Mm hmmm, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
We may have a whole bunch of mall world abductees. Okay,
that's maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Is it a gathering place for abductees? Are they putting
them there? Is the Secret Space program? Is that? Is
that a holding cell for you know, keep people in
the loop till they need to use them. Wow, you
go to the mall just to hang out and keep
you active in your subconscious.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Oh my gosh, I don't know. This is really deep,
you know what I mean? I know we're kind of like,
we're kind of well, we have to get deep into
this because we're exploring it today. Okay, this may be
the only time we ever talk about this, so let's
do it. Okay. But but it could be this could
be something more than just a dream. Okay, A lot

(48:56):
of times our dreams are more than just a dream.
But other times it's just a dream. Okay. And I
remember I had a my friend's husband, one of my
best friends. Her husband used to always if anybody wanted
to talk about their dreams with him, he would roll
his eyes. He was like, oh my god, it's so dumb.
It's just a dream. And I would always think, man, no,
my dreams are so real. You know you can't discount

(49:17):
your dreams, right, Yeah, So I don't know, do you
guys want to time it. Let's talk about the back
rooms a little bit too, okay, because this is all
it's kind of all connected, right and uh, and I'm
not exactly sure what the connection is. They all look
look alike to me.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
The back room was started back in twenty nineteen. That
was the first time this came online. From what I
understand on four Chan, it was a creepy pasta story, okay.
And uh, and what the backrooms are are familiar rooms.
They are they have an absence of any furniture. Okay. Uh,

(49:58):
there's an endless maze basically with no people and no furniture.
And let's see, I'll pull I'll pull up. I've got
a Wikipedia page. All Okay, we'll just look at this
one for a second. It says the back rooms are
a fictational location originating originating from four chan, and one
of the best known examples of the liminal space esthetic.

(50:21):
The backrooms are usually portrayed as an impossibly large, extra
dimensional expanse of empty rooms, as assessed by access by
exiting reality. Now, you do not want to get stuck
in the back rooms, okay. And I got to tell you,
this reminds me that picture right there. This reminds me

(50:44):
of my old office space. Okay, there's one I've I've
had many offices. One of them was down in the basement.
It had no windows and it looked just like that.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
It looks I hated.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
I hated going there for that. Yeah, I love my
job though, Okay, I limit job. I did not like that.
So but places like this too, I mean, this reminds
me of a ghost hunt, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
That's a good picture of like the mall world experience.
When you go to the school. We mentioned the hospitals
and the school. So in the hospitals you have endless
hallways like this, and the school rows of lockers, of
endless lockers, and you never see anybody. And you can
never get to the end door to get out of
that hallway.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
You just keep walking and walking. It's creepy.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
You never find your locker. If you're looking for your locker,
you can never find your locker. But everything looks familiar.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Oh my god, y'all. One of my another recurring dream
that I've had is going into high school and having
my locker and I don't know the combination to my locker.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Oh, and I'm just.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Turning the lock and turning it and turning it and
I can't get Oh gosh, see, I'm having all these
all these memories are coming up right now. Man. I
tell I told you I was getting anxiety before the
show today, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
And then yeah, and then the restrooms are the same way.
Have you seen the pictures of the restrooms?

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Why are they always down creepy hallways too?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Oh? Do you have a picture, Giryl.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
So this this is called this is called the infinity
restroom that happens in the dreams and especially in the
mall world. If you go to the restroom in the
school or the hospital or the mall, this is what
it looks like, and it's like row after row of
these toilets or these stalls and you never get to
the end of it. This is so crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Why am I getting anxiety so bad right now?

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Also, they're starting to call it the nightmare bathroom.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
It looks like at the end there's a dark figure
at the.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
End, there is Roe says, put some doors on their
pervsom you could never go to the bathroom. Gosh, oh
my gosh. Yeah, this is this is a nightmare scenario
actually unless you're a ghost hunter. And uh, and I
actually I think that's actually a good point too, because

(53:10):
this is like one of those liminal spaces. This is
what they would would consider to be a liminal space
where it's usually full. I'm not saying the bathrooms are
always full of people, but this is a place where
they're let's just say this is during at a sports stadium,
during a baseball game. There'll be people in and out
of here, right yeah, And uh, and it would be
it'd be busy till it's be flushing, water, be you know,

(53:33):
turning on and paper towel things, be making noise and
whatever and uh. But but now it's quiet. You can
almost feel the energy of if there were like ghosts
in there or something other, you know what I mean,
Like it's very supernatural, very paranormal feeling, but there's no
humans there in the three dimensional reality?

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Is that another? Is that another aspect of being abducted
where you're people that are on trails or wherever, and
they're you're hearing the birds the noises, and it gets quiet.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Is that the moment where everything stands still and you're
no longer in that reality that you're being abducted?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Oh? Oh, good question.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Yeah, because I'm sure everybody, everybody talks about these stories
and a lot of people have experienced it where they're
just walking down the trails or in the woods and
they're hearing the birds and the animals, the rustle of leaves, whatever.
Then all of a sudden, nothing, everything's quiet. It's like, okay,
is that where they're they're present, they're getting ready to
abduct you. You're being abducted? Is that why everything's quiet now?

(54:39):
Because you're not You're not in that reality no more.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Oh my gosh, you just took a quantum jump to
know the reality. That's a good point, girl, very good point.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Maybe maybe these mall dreams are the same way. Maybe
you're hearing the noises of people and kids, laughter, and
the normal noises of everyday life. Then all of a
sudden quiet. What if you're dreaming it's quiet?

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Oh man, that's trippy, very trippy for sure. I just
had a comment up here from Corals and I've had
a mall I've had a mall dream. Boops, here we go.
I've had a mall dream. One of them involved me
seeing my clone.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Whoa, whoa, that's another layer right there, right, I mean.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Because you know, you get it. The way I look
at it is like these places where there are malls
or any kind of place where a lot of people
are gathering. What's underneath that mall? Could there be something other,
some kind of underground facility there. I mean, I don't know.
Maybe maybe I just have gone way too deep down
the rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Well, all those shops, if people realize that all those
shops there is hallways that we don't see because I
worked in a gift shop many years ago, and there's
a back door and it's a hallway that all these
other stores are connected to go to the garbage and
this and this and that. So who knows what kind
of tunnel system they really have and they have real

(56:07):
private little back allways that you don't really see in
them all.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yes, exactly. And hey, Robin, she says that bathroom looks
like the hallway and the shining for the hotel rooms.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Oh no, wonder my daughter had a fear of public bathrooms.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
M Well, that's that's psychologically there. Does it does something
that scares us psychologically? I mean, that's what they put
in like horror movies, right, they wanted it's like a
psychological thriller. It's not all a lot of times when
things like like Southern Gothic literature. Let's put it in
terms of like Southern Gothic as opposed to European Gothic, right,

(56:43):
Like that was what I studied in college. I did
get my degree, even though I have nightmares that I
never got my degree and I have to keep going
back to college and take it and take an algebra
and geometry all over again. I hated those classes. Okay,
but anyways, Uh, there's a sight there's a psychological aspect
to like Southern Gothic like that, right, It's more like

(57:07):
it's not all blood and gore and vampires and were wolves,
you know what I mean it's more like psychological thrillers
and stuff, and that's how they're getting to us in
these movies and making it really scary because it's all
in your head. It's like subliminal spaces. It's you know,
you don't know what's hiding around a corner, and it's
all in your head, right, Your mind is playing tricks

(57:29):
on you, basically, and that's what all this does to us,
I think. But on a collective level though, like the
collective consciousness you know we I mentioned all the time,
like we can create our own reality. Sometimes things are
pumped into the society, like fear, so that we start

(57:49):
creating more fear, we start creating these bad experiences for
ourselves on a collective consciousness level. So that could be
an element of this as well.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Right, And when we had Daniel Louise on our show
and we talked about these dreams and her experiences, her
and her friends also created their own world. Within that world,
so there was like a they all had like a
door that they visioned that was a certain color, whether
it was purple or whatever. They picked out that they
could go in that door, and no other entities or

(58:20):
whatever could go in that door. So that was like
a safe room for them.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Oh my gosh, it's kind of I feel like, kind
of like the Matrix or something. I don't know why
I'm getting the Matrix vibes today with a lot of
this too. I mean, we if y'all don't think we
don't live in a simulation, I don't know what to
tell you. It's right, that's the way I'm looking at this.
I feel like we're living in a simulation more and
more every day, and it's.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Not real anymore, right, Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
And they talk about in this small world, if you
if you go to like the hospital, or the doctor's
office or even the school that okay, you going to
like say the doctor's office waiting room, there'll be all
these chairs that should be filled full of people, but
there's not. But there's one chair that's facing for you
to sit down, and all the other ones are facing
against the wall so nobody can sit in them. Little

(59:14):
clues like that, that's like, Okay, this isn't normal. Because
you go in a doctor's office, all the chairs are
accessible and you'd be able to sit in whatever one
you want, but there's only one chair when you go
into that office or that waiting room that you can
sit in. All the other ones are facing the wall,
so nobody can sit in them. There's little things that
are out of place, like you talked about earlier, When
you go to these places, you got to look around

(59:35):
and really examine where you're going or exploring, because there'll
be little clues of things like, Okay, that's not normal,
that's not what we really experience all the time.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
It's a little off a little.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
It's familiar, but not right.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I have seen several people mentioned Freddy Krueger in here today.
Oh and that's an interesting movie if you think about it.
You know, I was a kid who up in the
eighties and in the nineties, and Freddy Krueger was one
of the scarier psychological thrillers horrors, I guess, because this
was a monster that would attack you when you went

(01:00:13):
to sleep in your dream state. Right, Okay, that's you
can't get away from that unless you don't go to sleep.
I mean, how how scary is that? I don't know.
J true Seger says, Hey, Jessica, are you familiar with
the so called elevator game no, which is moving to

(01:00:33):
a combination of floors to get into another dimension of
liminal spaces. That sounds like a nightmare. Oh my, oh
thank you, no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, avoid escalators, elevators everything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
We don't wear crocs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Don't wear rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
So Jane brought up tunnels and stuff, and you brought
something up also about it. What about the videos or
the experiences people are having when they're going in the
restrooms and they're not there no more? So like parents
or whoever sees somebody or their kid goes into a
restroom and they're not there no more. Then you have
the videos of the child appearing in the Disney Park.

(01:01:20):
Have you ever seen that video?

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Yeah, where they're they're they somebody went into the restroom
and then they weren't there no more. Then later they
were spotted miles and miles away into it in a
Disney park after going into that restroom. So is there
in these in these I'm just thinking of these dream states,
is that these restrooms are they portals? Are the openings

(01:01:43):
that go somewhere else? Do they carry over into real
life where they could disappear into a portal or a
tunnel way and end up somewhere where they might not
should be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Oh my gosh, Well could be could have jump rooms
and uh, well there could be trap doors. I mean,
I've also seen I am going to be in Orlando
this weekend, and uh and there is what Universal Disney
and all that it's down there, and I would probably
never take my son there. I'm just saying, uh, but uh,

(01:02:16):
but I might go. I might go this week. I
don't know. We'll see and and and But there's some
horror stories of and I remember my parents took me
to Disney World when I was a kid, and from
what I can recall, I believe I jumped on a
train and got separated from my family. So it is
it is a wonder that I'm here today, Okay, I mean,

(01:02:37):
I'm assuming I was with the I'm still with the
right family. I could explain a lot, actually, but I
don't know. I'm just kidding. But anyways, Uh, maybe maybe
that's a I just I remember that. I don't know,
maybe I'm having a false memory or something, but I do.
I do recall that to talk to my mom about

(01:02:58):
that today. But but there's there's horror stories of parents. Yeah,
like you said, garyl like walking into the bathroom and
I think they said they saw like the floor shutting
as there. You know, they went in there to share
on their kid, and like it's like somebody had grabbed
their kid and put them in a trap door underneath
the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I think that's the one where they ended up in
the Disney park.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, that was in a Disney park. Yeah, so place,
please keep your kid. You got to keep a good
eye on our kid, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Okayom me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Growing up, we had a big, a big department store,
had like seven seven floors to it, and I remember
being a kid and mom was shopping and she was
obviously in the clothing section, and I remember being lost
in the middle of all those clothing racks and I

(01:03:50):
think Mom actually left that floor or that department without me,
and I'm sitting there wandering around and it wasn't a dream.
That this was real life, and I can still remember it.
It's almost like this like trying to get out and
never find in your way, and you know there's somebody
there that should be there with you, and you can't
find them. I mean, that's that's that's almost like a
real life dream. Horri It was horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Wow, that's horrible. My my son gave me some good
payback because when I was a kid, I used to
go hide in the racks of clothes and scare my
mom to death. And uh, and so as an adults,
a mom my son did the same to me, and
it's I could not stay. Now he's too big to

(01:04:33):
do it, I think, But back when he was a kid,
that was the worst.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
I remember doing that, hiding in the middle of the
circle racks with all the clothes around it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, I think we've probably all done that.
I think we did. And if you have kids, you
will get payback. I promise you that I definitely did. Okay, well,
let's let's let's say what I kind of want to
summarize all this before where we go today? Okay, we
got we got a few more minutes. We've got a

(01:05:02):
bunch of more minutes, actually, but okay, so why does
all this like resonate right with so many people across
the world. We're not talking about just like Americans. We're
talking about people all over the world are having the
same dream and people that have never never even knew
that other people were having this stream, they're also having

(01:05:23):
this stream, and uh and they and this is what
this is what from some of the research that I did,
and I was trying to like kind of compile some
things together. Uh, they're saying that a lot of this
being in the mall world is about the childhood nostalgia,
and uh, we kind of covered that because so many
people went to the mall, and we all went to

(01:05:43):
the mall growing up. Just about everybody did a shopping center, mall,
some kind of big mall, small mall. Also, you know,
malls are a place of like consumption, and it's just
a place of they call it social, social, rich jewels. Okay,
it's something that we don't have to do, but everybody

(01:06:05):
does it, okay, And and it's kind of like just
a it's a place where we can connect, okay. And
it's a part of our identity, especially especially here in America. Okay,
it's part of our We have some huge malls like
the Mall of America and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
We have there. We took our kids out there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
There are some places are just like destinations.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
It's a destination. I don't say vacation, okay, but a
place to go just to go and explore and stuff.
I mean it's pretty fun. Listen, you don't know what
you got till it's gone too, and when we don't
have malls anymore, it's going to be sad kind of
a little bit, even though I don't go to them all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
Much, right, I mean, it's just like you said, it's
it's a common thing that's a common factor amongst all
of us. Or you've either experienced the mall or we've
hung out there as teenagers or kids, or so if
you're being abducted or you're in a secret space program,
why wouldn't they project you into somewhere where it's that

(01:07:08):
everybody has the same common knowledge or the feeling when
you're there. Maybe you're happy when you get to the mall,
maybe you're maybe you have anxiety because of the mall,
but it's still a common factor that everybody would know. So,
I mean, we've seen movies where people in their dreams
or people that are being abducted have been placed in

(01:07:30):
front or in situations that they're they would recognize or
common or feel at home. So a mall would definitely
be that kind of a place.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
It would be because, yeah, because every everybody has experienced
the mall. Yeah, it's something that we will all recognize. Man,
I just can't get over the idea of being having
a connection to an abduction experience, the ETS or whatever. Okay. Yeah,

(01:08:01):
and also another reason that people are having these dreams
like I can't I kept saying in the beginning of
the show today, it's like, well, because we don't have
it anymore. And so it's like we're when we dream,
we're trying to like make sense of things that we've lost,
like our past. And you know, like I keep going
back to college and back to high school where I
didn't get my degree. I still have classes to take.

(01:08:23):
I can't figure out my my locker combination. You know,
it's like we go back to the stuff that was
like it's got a nostalgia to it from our childhood.
And you know, I just started thinking, Gene, you mentioned
your recurring dream and I had. I have several recurring dreams, okay,
but one of them I just remembered. I used to
always dream that I was being chased by dinosaurs. Oh, oh,

(01:08:47):
that's not good knowing now what I know. Yeah, it's
probably getting chased by reptilians or something. That was one
of my as an adult. That was one of my
recurring dreams that I've had Wow, So I probably shouldn't
have said that out loud, but that's it. Yes, I've
got the reptilians after me. I am a nurse in

(01:09:11):
nineteen sixty eight. Yes, probably so all right, Well, basically
in a nutshell, this can like kind of show us
what we're holding on to, and that is the nostalgia
of the malls and stuff and what we're ready to
let go of. Okay, and I'm not saying people are
ready to let go of their their childhood memories and

(01:09:32):
all that kind of stuff of being at the mall.
But I don't know. Dreams are just so symbolic, okay,
But if if we're looking at this from like a
dream state, those things all make sense. But see, it
may be more than just a dream, right, And that's
kind of like where us three are kind of in
a headspace at because it's like a lot of my dreams,

(01:09:54):
I don't think they're all just dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
So over are two real and you remember every single
detail years later, and then the other ones you remember
a little bit, and by the time you go to
the bathroom get coffee, you don't remember it anymore. But
why are you remembering some of these? So vividly and
so strong. You know, it's like you can almost still
hear the smell or the you know here. It's so real.

(01:10:20):
I don't understand it it is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
I'm going to pull this up one more time because
i want the audience to see that. I'm sure a
lot of y'all some people may just be tuning in
right now. But but this is from tilt. I think
it was tilted, is what Giryl said on TikTok. But
we do have this map right here. This is on
reddit dot com Ford slash our Ford slash the mall world. Okay,

(01:10:44):
so go to the mall world on Reddit and uh
and this is a map that this person Tilton or
Hilton had put on there. Now that that is some
good memory right there.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Yeah, she's starting to do lives now too, where when
she experiences her dreams, she goes on lives and starts
talking about it. So you can join her and and
talk about your experiences or if you're even experiencing the same.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Thing in either they are going to the same place
or something is implanting the same images to a lot
of people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
How many malls are how many malls? You know, we
all grew up and how many common things do you have,
you know, whether it's Montgomery Wards or Sears or whatever,
whatever the stores are, so every mall would they could
be a little different, but they're all going to be similar.
So maybe maybe they're all experiencing the mall, but maybe

(01:11:42):
it's not exactly the same mall. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Wow. Wow, Yeah, I was just thinking, you know, it's
kind of sad that, like when I was a kid,
my grandparents would have us take the Seers catalog. You
remember the Seers catalogs. Oh yeah, all all the toys
that we wanted for Christmas, and and that's how we
my my parents, my grandparents would know, like those are
the toys that we wanted. We put our initials beside them,

(01:12:09):
and yep we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Had we had the J. C. Penny Wish Book. We
had the Sears Serious Christmas Catalog.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Oh yeah. And in those days, I mean, I hate
to think those are days are over. But I did
get a catalog the past couple of years on Amazon
with toys in it that I'll let my son go
and circle stuff in. But it's not the same. Sears
catalogs were thick. They were thick, but but this is Uh,

(01:12:40):
this is a great example that we have on the
screen right now of waking up and writing your dreams
down right away. Yeah, right out, see if we can
map let's let's see if we can map our dreams
out like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
And that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
So according to what I've seen on TikTok and her
story is that, uh, this is a big map that
she's pieced together over little tiny like you said, keeping
a tablet or a note book by your bed to
write your dreams down. So she was doing little little
things at first, you know, like like the mall or
a store or whatever. Then she slowly over the years

(01:13:15):
started adding to it. Now she's actually putting it all
into a big, a big map, wow, trying to piece
it all together, how they're all interactive or where they're
at in comparison in or dream.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Oh my gosh. Well, I kudos to her. I think
this is pretty cool, and I I think it's wild
and weird, and I don't know exactly what to make
of all of it, honestly, I really, I really don't
know what to make of it because it's like there's

(01:13:50):
just so much to it right now, with all the
transhumanism and this is for entertainment purposes only. But with
the AI, and we're talking about like how would you
know the difference between if your dream or if it's
in reality and the way that we could tell if
it was dreaming. It's like that's what AI is. It's
like gibberish words can't turn on, you know, It's just

(01:14:11):
it's just weird. Okay, And uh, I don't know. I
think it's gonna take some more research here, okay, and uh,
and I am definitely gonna be logging. I'm gonna be monitoring,
let's say, monitoring that Reddit page just to find out
what's going on and see how many other people, I mean,
uh have these same experiences. But it's I just feel

(01:14:36):
like there's that that whole group thing thing as well,
right and I and I see that in other other
parts of communities and stuff. You know, it's like one
person see something and everybody else starts seeing it too.
It's the same in the cryptive world. Just saying it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Has has a weird aspect to it because like you
think it's a dream that's personal to you, you don't
think anybody else is having it. Then you find out
other people are having in the same dream or similar dreams.
So you're having a collective subconscious but at the same level,
it's supposed to be a personal thing that you think
you're only experiencing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
How can that be unless they're actually implanting something or
you are going someplace together.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Yeah, yeah, we just need to take it all into account. Yeah,
we got and it's just a matter of connecting the dots. Okay,
it is. It's a matter of connecting the dots. And
and Barry has some wonderful videos you guys, if you
all want some more information on some of this whatever

(01:15:37):
we were talking about earlier. Barry's got it all on
his channel over there where it's all this technology that
gets into your dreams, your dream state and stuff and
having things downloaded into our mind memories. I mean, my goodness, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
They have that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
They have that technology now to where if you're you
can make a choice. I don't know if you can
make choice. I think you can to serve a life
sentence in prison or go get your mind wiped. Oh right, wow,
you heard about that, right, No.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
That's not that's a good choice.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
You serve your sentence within a blink of an eye. Basically,
they hook your brain up to some kind of technology
and you serve your whole sentence in one sitting and
then you get to go home.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Wo, So if they can do that, what else?

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
So just like the twenty and back though you experienced
twenty twenty years and all of a sudden you're back
within seconds of when you first did that? Is that
what your prison term? What if they kept you in
that state for one hundred years or you think you're
there for a hundred years, but it's really it's only
been minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Oh wow, that's yeah, that's kind of that's my that's
what I was thinking, GARYL for sure. I mean they
show us stuff like that in movies, like what is
that Avatar? The Matrix? Yeah, it's all on a conscious level.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
What I want to know is what time period is
this mall world set in? What's the music playing on
the music. When you go to malls you hear music.
There are some malls you hear music. So what's playing
on the music in this mall world? Music are they playing?

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
It's a small world, after all, it's all after all, Oh,
that would be creepy if it was Disney music, just
saying oh, man, I don't know. Yeah, it's like whichever
corporation is sponsoring the technology. I guess who knows they're
going to blast o music there. Yeah, I don't know.

(01:17:52):
It's all very very mind blowing. And Skip, thank you
so much for that supersticker. He says, great show, guys,
keep it up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
I appreciate that. Skip, You're the best. You're awesome. And
and Nathan said, consider a link between Gate program and
Mall World dreams?

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Yeah, I mean a lot of a lot of them
on there. You not only this this lady that we
found the map from, but there's this so many different
content creators now starting to talk about Mall World, and
they're all talking a lot of them about people in
the Gate Program. So that, I mean that kind of
what leads us to the secret Space program because they
all talk about being tested in schools and taking from

(01:18:34):
their classroom to be tested.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Right, exactly, totally question everything, friends, I am a nurse, says,
I always ask people when I have dreams with them,
if they had a similar dream, what about a one
out of five ratio that we are dream walking? That's

(01:18:58):
interesting dream walking? Okay? And and then it says how
to recognize if there are dream walkers screwing with you
in your dreams. Any advice, Oh, I don't know. I
don't know exactly. I mean, you could be like me
and just beat everybody up. Most of the times. My

(01:19:21):
my punches do land in my dreams. Okay, Now my
gun will not fire, but my punches will land. Okay.
So I have learned I gotta be tough because my
my weapons may not work. Okay. And uh, and so
that's just you know, that's that's how my reality is
my dreams.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
I wonder if I wonder if there's weapons in your
dreams that you can get that do work.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
I don't know, Maybe I should try that tonight. We're
gonna I'm gonna set the attention tonight of of of
trying different weapons out. Any any dream walkers coming to
screw with me. They get they get the differnt of
of all my weapons.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Now we've got dream walkers. Yeah, we got toilet portals.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Oh, oh gosh, toilet war Actually, yes, I will never
look at a public restroom the same ever again after
the show today it is a liminal space and uh
and pretty terrifying. Man, I don't know this has been
a really fantastic show today though, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Yes, And it's just like every subject we come up
with us, So what ifs they get you because we
don't know, We don't know anything necessarily about it except
for what people. I've never been to the mall world
in my dream, so I don't really know what it's like,
but I know what a mall looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Wow, this is something new to me until last night.
I've never heard of this in mall dreaming. This is
getting crazy, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Well, everybody'll keep you'll keep your eyes and ears to
the streets, okay, and uh into the malls. And if
you'd like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
To have everybody, everybody that's in chat or watches this,
go ahead and leave in comments if you've been to
mall World or a similar shared or anything like that,
and let us.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Know, yes, please do. Oh is this Beth? It's Beth
on her creeper account. That's what. Thank you, Beth? That
that is so funny. Yeah, yeah, definitely, because you know what,
I would actually like to explore this the more. And girl, Jane,

(01:21:34):
I know y'all y'all probably cover this more on your
channel as well. And h and so yeah, do let
us know, and I don't know. We need to just
re examine this one in the future because this is
not going anywhere. I don't think it's going anywhere. I
think more and more people are going to be having
these dreams and uh, and I'd be interested to see,
like the the number of people having these dreams who

(01:21:54):
have also had abduction experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Could you remote view the mall world even though it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Dream, I mean, it could be remote viewed. I guess.
I don't know. That's one. I mean I could send
that over to my team at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
There you go as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Yeah, I hope they're not watching this. But I'd have
to talk to the head of my team about this
one because that's kind of it's kind of weird because
I don't know because it's a dream, so I don't
know how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Well, it's a dream to us, but maybe it's not
a dream. Maybe it's maybe it's not a dream.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
That's a good point of the span Dex mall monster.
Oh no, not the monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Yeah, they did say that it's a They know they're
in the mall world when they're buying strange items. I
would assume that includes Span Dex rape costumes, Rake Rake Rake,
Halloween costumes and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Yes, we don't worry about the mall monsters.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Now, Oh my gosh, we do the dream.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
The dream that's a collective experience. You know, we talk
about mal World. What if there's a Walmart collective dream
where if there's a disney World collective dream where you're
endlessly wandering along the park in disney World.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Oh my god, the wally World. Yeah, the wally World dreams.
I don't know, y'all, let us know down in the comments.
And uh and we're gonna we'll re examine this one
in the future. And uh yeah, because I mean I'm
just learning about this too. This is like the second day, Giryl,
I think that I've known about this. I mean I

(01:23:33):
actually i'd seen something a couple of days ago on
TikTok the woman who had that map it's all over TikTok. Yeah.
So but then GARYL you mentioned it yesterday and I
was like, Okay, well, if you're mentioning it, I need
to look into this a little bit more. And so
here we are, and so I am so appreciative that
everybody was here today.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Thank you so much for being here. Jane and GARYL.
Where can everybody find y'all? Tell everybody about.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Your channels and stuff about yours.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Jane, right, we're on Etsy Wear Woman Goods. Yeah, I'm
gonna pull Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
You thank you. There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah, that's where you can find us. No, I've I've
got a music channel those two sounds, and I've got
to be I mean, I can't be under Midwest because
girl uses that account. So I just kind of stayed
with my music channel for you know, my my name.
So yeah, there's all handpands, tongue drums, all kinds of

(01:24:31):
instruments over there that you can relax and just feel peace.
If you have a wild dream about them all, just
go to my channel and click on Seeing the Bolts
or something and get rid of it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
I love your channel, Jane, and your music is beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Thank you. So we do.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
We do have Midwest on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook groups and
uh you can find us anywhere with Midwest Night Watchers
and Midwest Night watch at gmail dot com. And we
do have a twenty four to seven live view on
our YouTube channel that you can go and watch the
animals or we had. They were harvesting the corn behind

(01:25:11):
us the other day and Jane had the camera going
on them the whole time. So you can get the
night views of the animals and whatever shows up in
our yard. And sometimes we even show the night sky
see strange moving things in the night skies.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Go check watch.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
It's always fun.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
I love that. It's a great place to go if
you can't sleep at night too. I know my mom
has definitely stayed up late watching your cameras before. Yeah,
I love it. Well, thank you guys so much. Y'all
please go over and subscribe to chi Ro Sounds in
the Midwest night Watchers on YouTube and rumble and on

(01:25:48):
Facebook as well. And I want to thank you all
again for being here. Jane and go yeah, man, it's
always so much funny y'all are here and hero screaming goat.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Goat screaming right now, we have these things.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I think she's talking about this little thing that I
have at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
She said, let's hear it for the screaming goat. Let's
hear it, right, does it scream? Oh my gosh, And that,
my friends, is a screaming goat. Yes, well, I hope
everybody has sweet dreams tonight. Yes, and and you guys
please let us know, like we said, if you guys
have had any of these mall dreams, thank you. He'll

(01:26:33):
be here for letting us know you've had those, and
anybody else keep us posted on that. And one two
one two screaming goats coming for you. Three four. It's
like nightmare on Elm Street out here. Yes, Bess said,
we'll see it in the ma all tonight. Yes, everybody's

(01:26:54):
in the food core. You guys will go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Eat absolutely see if you can read the signs in
the food court tonight, let's all meet there, you know.
Three am, I'm a boarding.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Where where are your best span deck?

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Where are your best span dex?

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
I'm meeting the food If you can read the signs
on how to get there, I bet you can't. I
bet you can't. But anyway, y'all don't wear your crocs.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
No crocs, and avoid the spandex small monster.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Oh man, it's too fun. I love you guys, Thank
y'all so much for being here. I will see you
guys back here tomorrow night at eight pm with the
live show, all remote viewing, no spandex. I promise you
all have a wonderful day and uh sweet dream Jael,
and we'll see y'all back here tomorrow night by Jane Girl,

(01:27:55):
Take y'all Something by Y'alls

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
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