The Patterson Bigfoot at Bluff Creek with M.K. Davis

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Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Crypted High Dress. Welcome
into on the Hunt tonight where we are going on
the hunt with none other than m K Davis, you guys,
and this has been a long time coming. I'm super
excited to have m K in the studio with me tonight.
If you guys are not familiar, I know you're all

(01:18):
familiar with MK. All right. I do mention his work
occasionally quite a bit here on my channel, and he
is one of the I'm going to say, one of
the more profound researchers, especially when it comes to the
Patterson Gimblin film with Patty, the infamous beloved Patty. And
you know we've done some shows on Patty here. As

(01:39):
a matter of fact, I did that remote viewing target,
was tasked with a remote viewing target of the Patterson
Gimlin what happened in the Patterson Gimblin film, and it
was quite controversial. And I think tonight, what MK is
gonna we're gonna talk about tonight might back up a
lot of that data that I had on that target.

(02:01):
And I haven't even talked to MK about that yet.
So it's quite tragic actually, so be prepared, y'all. We're
going to really dive down that rabbit hole tonight, and
I am so excited. There's so much more. Whatever you
think that you know about that Patty video, there's a
lot more to it. Okay, there's a lot more to it,

(02:22):
and so we have so much to discuss tonight. Thank
you guys so much for being here. I see our
chat is poppin tonight. We have a lot of people
in here, and I want to think all my moderators
for being here, all my channel members, and everybody just
for giving me your input tonight. Okay, I know y'all
make the show even that much more better with all

(02:42):
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(03:03):
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(03:25):
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(03:45):
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It's got a big old bigfoot on it. And so y'all,
y'all come see me at that November the eighth. I
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(04:06):
I also have my Patreon links, my shop links, and
all that kind of stuff. So y'all just check those
out there. Okay, let's get our show. Definitely get our
show because we have MK Davis here, y'all can't tell
I'm super giddy tonight. I'm super excited about it and
let's do this. MK Davis developed an interest in the
infamous Patterson Bigfoot film through his hobby of astro photography.

(04:30):
Taking space photos link itself well to the restoration and
enhancement of a Bigfoot film or the Bigfoot film. The
skill set developed in astro photography worked outstandingly on the
film and resulted in the clearest and most stable versions
of the film available. This has led him into a
deep dive into the subject of Bigfoot encryptids in general.

(04:55):
Many trips to the Patterson film site, as well as
a host of other films, videos, and places of encounters,
have served to help him build a meaningful body of
knowledge about such subjects and has served him well in
his journeys. He's been researching this Patty video for about
twenty years or more, and he's traveled extensively over to

(05:16):
that area, and we have I have a lot of
questions for him tonight, but really I just want to
hear about his experience, his encounters, and I had the
privilege of showing up to the East Alabama a Bigfoot
town hall about two years ago, and that was the
biggest treat of my entire bigfooting career. I tell you,

(05:36):
if you want to call it a career, it's an
expensive one on my part. Okay, hobby more like it.
But to get to go seemk and to talk about
the Patterson film and what he knows is actually going
on in that film, you guys please help me. Welcome
to the show, mister MK. Davis.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Hey, all right, well, thank you for having me on.
Jess oh, of.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Course, thank you for being here. This is something I
have been looking forward to for a long time. And uh,
and I just want to thank you first of all
for all the work that you put into diving into
the Patterson video and uh into the film and uh
and just for all your dedication to the field of
cryptid research. Thank you, MK.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, I appreciate it. Thank you. It's it's been quite
a journey, you know. It's it's like a lot of things.
Once you get into it and you you began to
build a body of knowledge up and then you began
to wonder and ask more questions and you dig more,
and and it's just been uh on, down on down

(06:46):
through the years and until this very day. Uh it's
been an ongoing effort.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Oh yeah, mkay. I don't know about you, but you
know I do the boots on the ground field research
myself and been doing it for a long time. As
a matter of fact, you and I have a few
mutual friends. And I remember you say, hear so much
about you from Bob Grumpy Wilson. He spoke so highly
of you throughout the years, him along with Daryl and
some other guys on my research team. So he'd be

(07:14):
so proud to see us sitting here talking tonight.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah. Bob a great guy. I really like Bob. I
was so sad when he got sick and passed away.
Good friend.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh yeah, me too, me too. I love him to death.
He used to live about ten miles down the road
for me, and he was my family for sure. But
he is watching down over us tonight and loving what
we're doing. I know he is. And I wanted to
answer this question out in the chat Geane Hudson A gene.
She says, Jessica, have you a remote viewed the Patty
encounter if not, why not? Okay, Well, Mka, I don't

(07:52):
know if I've ever told you this, but I'm actually
trained in remote viewing the type our military, yous it,
and sometimes I'm given crazy targets, right, and one of
them actually happened to be Patty. Okay, and what was
going on in that film? And uh and I and
I I was given that charm as a blind target.
I didn't know what it was. I was giving some
coordinates and uh, and I was coming up with some

(08:15):
really strange data about it, like you know, I was
being shot at and stuff. And uh and I gotta
tell you, I think that the videos that you've shown us,
you've shown some of the conferences you've done, and the
events you've done, Mike, kind of backs up that data
that I got from this, from what I got in
my remote viewing. There's a lot more to this film,

(08:37):
right than just watching the Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's it's a lot more to it what you what
you see when you see the Patty film as as
originally shown as a third or fourth or something maybe
even a fifth generation copies that were edited, so you know,
somebody had had put the thing together to show just

(09:06):
certain things, and uh, and when you began began to
acquire higher quality frames from the film, Uh, you couldn't help,
but you know, wonder what's going on here. You know,
you're going to ask ask questions. Then I met miss

(09:29):
Patterson and she filled me in on some of it,
and so you know, it's it's not a it's not
a great story, but the truth is always better than
something that's made up.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
And yes, an uncomfortable truth is better than you know,
the other, okay, And so I I would I'd like
to know the truth now. Okay. Back when I first
started doing Bigfoot field Researcher, Bigfoot was not popular. Okay,
it wasn't popular with the general public. People did not
have Bigfoot stickers on their vehicles back then, and I'm

(10:07):
sure that's kind of how it was when you started it. Yeah,
but today it's pretty popular, right, And it's because of Patty.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I'd say mostly. You know, at the time that I started,
I think that the film had kind of fallen into
it's kind of what it was languishing. I think people
had sort of the majority of people and decided that
it was a man in a suit. Yeah. So when

(10:41):
I came along, that's kind of way the things were standing.
And I mean I went immediately after higher quality frames
because I had seen a high quality frame. Uh, and
you just don't get a frame that good from a
bad film. So I knew that, and I knew that

(11:04):
there had to be a much better version of it.
So I made inquiries trying to locate the better frames
and the better versions of the FELM and I was
able to get them. I got them with help.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
How did you get that?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
First of all, let me back up a little bit,
because what you're saying is what has been put out
to the public is not the end all be all.
There's something a little bit more clear and concise.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yes, yes, that's what it is. It's the public only
only got to see the dark, grainy copies that were unstable.
You know, they were all over the monitor, all over
the television or even the theater screen. You can't watch

(11:59):
it like that. So once I acquired these better versions,
better copies of the frames, I hand stabilized it. I
brought Patty to the center and just put her there
and one frame on top of the other on top
of the other, and an animator. And then when I

(12:21):
got them all lined up. About two in the morning,
I hit preview and I couldn't believe what I was seeing,
How how really good this this film was. So once
you see clearly that you're not looking at him man

(12:41):
in a suit, then you start to ask questions again
and you go down, you go down the rabbit hole.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh yes, And we love rabbit holes over here on
that channel. Okay, that's what we do best over here,
We dive down rabbit holes. MK. And this is one
of the Okay, so this is one of your most
recent videos that you put out. You do have a
YouTube channel and a website, and and you you gave
this freely to the public and said, you know, this

(13:11):
is the clearest frame that you have right here, and
and so I thank you for that. And that's why
I wanted to if it's okay, I wanted to show
that to the audience tonight.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Sure thing, Sure that is. I got that that frame
from Missus Patterson and she says that it came off
the original film. It was in the form of a
four by five transparency and it's frame three five two,

(13:41):
which was in the public domain. Right after the filming.
They printed it in the Eureka Times newspaper. This was
the frame that they used and it went into public domain. Wow,
so it's it's anybody that clicks on that link and

(14:01):
gets a copy of it, they can use it for
whatever purposes they want.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Well, thank you, that's what we're using it here tonight
on the channel. This is actually for anyone who has
not already subscribed to MK's YouTube channel. Y'all. It's green Wave.
It's supposed to be twenty ten. I put twenty twenty. Okay,
let me go back and fix that. Sorry, it's on
the ticker. It's on the ticker. But y'all go do that.
And if you look at that the last video that

(14:27):
you posted, MK, it's actually in the comment section down below.
There's a link to that if you guys would like
to get that and download it for yourself.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, it's there for the general public.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, thank you for doing that. That's what you know.
I really appreciate that about you and the information that
you put out. You want to share it with the world.
You're not trying to bread crumb people or like hold
an information back. You just want to put it out
there for everybody to absorb.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I mean, it's got a it's got importance for everybody.
It's it's it's uh people there there are a lot
of people who are very skilled. If they just could get,
you know, a hole to some of the better stuff,
they can really amaze you what can be done with it. Uh.

(15:23):
These things are high quality with nothing done to it. Uh.
But but if you apply some techniques to it, it
improves dramatically.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Okay, Well, thank you Stargazer for gifting a membership. I
appreciate that. Mkay. Okay, why why on earth would Okay,
first of all that I'm very blessed and happy and
thankful that this video was put out to the public
at some point of Patty. It is the first video
that I've ever I'd ever seen of a bigfoot before,

(15:59):
and so something was put out into the public that
was a little grainy, little blurry, but it was still
a bigfoot. I'm okay with that. But then you went
to the source somehow are you now you were friends
with the with missus Patterson. How did you get in
contact with the Patterson family? And uh? And we're able
to get that footage which was actually way more clear

(16:21):
than what was put out to the public.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Uh. I think she contacted me first. UH. She had
she had seen some of the stuff that I had done.
You know, people people appreciate it, and they want to
they want to help you and to get even better
things to work with. And that's kind of the way,

(16:45):
you know. Once I got one or two frames done,
I got invited to come up to Oregon and they
had a conference there with the Western Bigfoot Society, and
UH invited me to come and speak. I met people there,
and that that's the importance of of a conference, you know,

(17:08):
setting that you cross paths with people that can help you.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, you do. That's why I always encourage my audience
to get out there and meet people in person. Okay too,
because I think it's important that we do. I do
a lot of conferences and like public events and stuff,
and I always joke around about how people are gonna
get tired of hearing what I have to say, because
I you know, I try to get out there as
much as possible. But it's networking because we can connect

(17:34):
the dots on stuff and really help each other in
our research. I just love talking to other researchers because
none of us have anything figured out when it comes
to the boots on the ground stuff. We're still you know,
there's not a lot of experts in the field, but
when it comes down to that, I'd consider you an
expert as far as the photography goes okay and the film.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
You know, I've stayed on that project to the point
where I had developed techniques that work particularly well with
that film.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
There's no two films exactly like each Each one of
whatever you take films up is going to react differently
to different ways you know that you treated or process it.
So that's kind of the way I hung in there
until I was able to get the best processing for it.

(18:34):
And so it once I once I published the stabilized version, people,
I mean, you got your own set of eyes. You
can look for yourself. You see things on it that
were it was the biomechanics of life. You know, you

(18:57):
see it every day and you're living. The muscles moving,
the scapul little moving under the skin. All that was
on that film and showed really well if you could
bring it to the center and stabilize it. And so
once I got that done, of course, I redid the

(19:18):
films quite a few times as I got new techniques,
you know, new programs.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Also well, I got to tell you when I after
I came back from that Bigfoot town hall, I was
so excited about that picture that I got to hold
I'm going to show the audience, says, this is me
holding this big, gigantic picture the MK brought to the event,
and I could not get over the fact that I
saw boogers in her nose. Okay, boogers of all things.

(19:50):
I was I told the audience was like, there are
boogers in her nose and you can actually see them.
I mean, here's I want to show. This is the
picture of my son and my cousin Jesse right here
at that same event that's been y'all in case you're wondering,
but here's you're an up close picture. MK. This is
fantastic right here. But it's also I gotta say. I mean,
we'll get into this in just a minute, but I

(20:11):
got very emotional after I heard your presentation that day
and you're talking about what you believe was going on
with with Patty and looking at her eyes in this
picture is heart riching to me. Okay, but this is
crystal clear right here.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, it's it's not a normal Sasquatch behavior to the
saunter out in front of people in broad daylight, like
you see her doing that, that immediately was raised a
red flag. Even if I didn't know anything else, that
something of an unusual nature was going on. But you know,

(20:52):
having having was able to fill in a lot of
the blanks, I had a good idea, uh what what
had happened, and was able to put the story together.
And so that explanation is you know, is is believable. Uh,

(21:13):
that's what It'll make anybody come out in the daylight.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yes, Well, I'm a mama, okay, and I gotta I
got a kid, and uh and the only thing that
I could wrap my head around is why somebody got
was able to go get a video of a bigfoot
is because she was getting flushed out because maybe she
was trying to be a decoy of some sort and
uh and so that you know, she doesn't maybe her

(21:41):
kids aren't targeted for some reason. But uh, but I
think maybe we should kind of go back and explain
to the audience a little bit about like what was
going on there at the time, like why there were
bigfoots in the area, and why Patterson and Gimlin were
there that day filming. Uh what what was going on there? Kay?
Was it was a company, right?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah? They started out with a logging company and uh
they were they were attempting to build a road between Orleans, California,
to a town on the coast called or called Gasquet,
and they called it the go Road Gasquet to Orleans.

(22:24):
And that put them right where they put this road
was going to take them right into sacred Indian land. Uh.
And so the Indians resisted. They formed human chains and
tried to stop the cutting of the trees. They that

(22:49):
when they explained what their beliefs were, it's very very surprising.
They they believed that a four man who modern man
was here, there was another type of person and they
went back to the stars through a hole in the

(23:12):
sky from two peaks. One was Medicine Peak and the
other was Chimney Peak or Chimney Rock. Uh. And that
was the whole entire reason for keeping people out. They
they wanted they trained their shamans there, and you know

(23:36):
it was it was sacred to three different tribes. Uh.
So that that's why. But the but the logging companies
they could care less about that. They wanted they wanted
the timber out of there, and they're trying to figure
out ways to get at it, and uh. Their their

(23:56):
best way was to, you know, well we need a
road in there, and that once they got the road built,
they went to loging.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
It's a it's a that in itself by itself, it's
a pretty sad story. But they had the logging companies
and there were several big ones and they had contracted
to some smaller ones. But they they believed in taking
care of their problems in house. Uh. They Uh, this

(24:33):
old bear hunter told me he hunted, he hunted bears
for the logging company and they would find the bears
out so that they didn't didn't bother the loggers when
they went in there. And so that was the technique
they used. And when this this bigfoot problem came along,

(24:58):
they tried to do the same thing with the bigfoot,
take care of it in house. They were unsure about
what a bigfoot was. I think that they were misinformed
about what it was, and they found out the hard way. It.

(25:19):
They ended up with quite a quite an operation down there.
There were there were originally I think seven seven of
the individuals the bigfoot uh, and some of them stayed
on the ridge and I think it was three of
them went down into the creek bottom and that's where

(25:44):
everything was going on at the time. H Patterson and
Gimblin just walked into it. They didn't go down there
to be part of any any hunting expedition, but they
they kind of walked into it. It was the the

(26:05):
hunting was the reason why they got the film. Uh,
normal circumstances, you would have never gotten a sasquatch out
in the day like that to just walk in front
of people.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Mh.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But so they as far as I know far as
what I've been able to glean, and I talked at
length with these the bear or the old bear hunter
and some of the others, and he filled me in
on a lot of stuff. But they they did succeed
and then in the Bigfoot out, so it was it

(26:46):
wasn't happy hour down at Bluff Creek. Took them several
a month or more, using dogs, using dogs and horses.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Man, that's tragic, mkay. Well it's tragic, but it's also
it's also you know, I understand that there's a company
trying to get their job done, and from what I understand,
they were the the bigfoots were the forest people were
tearing up all the equipment and costing them a lot

(27:21):
of money and causing a lot of problems. But see,
this is their land, and like you said earlier, this
was sacred land, very sacred land. And I mean I've
even I've heard you say on in a video you've
done about how the people who were from there and
lived there, the indigenous people were actually forming human chains

(27:42):
of bodies to like stop the equipment from coming in
to build this road through there, Like that's some kind
of eminent domain that our wonderful government had, I guess
to put a road through there.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
And the road they put in there was you can't
use it most of the year because it goes through
the really rugged country that's way up there, where the
snow stays there on the ground to pass past June.
I've been up there and had to shovel it in June.

(28:14):
It was I just say, a waste of money, because
it did give them access to some logs and stuff
if they got them out fast enough. But it was
just one of those things where you know, it was

(28:35):
a combination of greed and and not ignorance too not
they didn't know what they were dealing with, but they
do now.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I can only imagine. You know, my great grandfather had
a logging company in Georgia, and I would have loved
to have been able to talk to him today about that.
He passed away before I was born. But I would
have to think in North Georgia, you know, I do
all my most of my bigfoot research in Georgia and
Tennessee and Alabama and Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina. I

(29:10):
would have to think my great grandfather probably encountered forest
people sasquatsh bigfoots. Uh up there, ye up and there.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
It's not too much different it. It may not be
quite as you know, high altitude the peaks, but uh,
it's still rugged country it is.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
There's more big Listen. I've bigfooted all over the South
and in New York. I see Long Island big footing here.
I went to New York and did some bigfooting too.
But but North Georgia mountains have the most bigfoots of
anywhere I've ever been. And maybe it's just because I
know where they're they're at, That's why I know. But
but there's a lot of bigfoots up there, So go figure.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, well it's uh if if I don't know how
people feel about things, you know, I try to put
myself in other people's shoes. Now it's miss Patterson. You know,
she told me some things that well, if I got
into it, I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to cover

(30:15):
it before we had to go. I'm trying to trying
to figure out the right approach for this. But can
I get to where I can present a You.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Sure can't just go down and hit the present or
invite button down there underneath where the picture is. You
can see that, Yeah, there's a present, and then click
that and then pull up sheer screen and then click
on whatever screen you got open open.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay, I got it right there.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, there you go. Okay, let's see. Okay, there we go.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Let me go to this one first. This is a
hole that it immediately became controversial when I showed this
to UH. I got it from Mss Patterson, and when
I showed it to Bob Gimmlin's on the same day

(31:15):
I had. I visited with her in the morning, him
in the evening. He got really upset about this picture.
And you know, I didn't know what for I didn't
know the whole story, but I heard enough that I

(31:36):
was going to go back and look at the film again.
This right here I call the red hole. I traveled
all the way to Ohio to show this hole to
Bruce mcaby, who was an optical physicist, and he agreed

(32:00):
with me that this is a hole full of red material.
It's not it's not leaves, it's liquid. It's it's really
it's mostly water, but it's the red is uh is
It don't take a lot of red to make the
water tint red. Oh my, you see? Oh yeah, now,

(32:28):
let watch what you can do.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Let's see this is at one hundred percent. That's at
one hundred percent. Okay, Now this right here, what I
did was split it like a prism, filtered it. Okay,
this right here is only the faint stuff that that
if you were going to print it, you would print it.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
With dark ink, like like almost black ink. And uh,
it's low surface brightness. So you can get this and
and cut it bringing over here and it pasted as

(33:16):
an object over that, and then give it about thirty
five percent transparency, Oh my gosh. And then then you
can go like this and then you can put your
go to human saturation and get the fading out of it.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh gosh, you.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
See what I mean? Is it is what it is.
It may not be, it may not be the same
kind of thing that people want it to be, but
it's it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Okay. I don't know about you, but when I when
I've discussed publicly that I believe that Patty was being
shot at that day, I've got a lot of backlash
from that.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, well why why why would you get backlash?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
It's a good question, good question because people don't want
to believe that. That's why there's a video of Patty.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Uh in the open, you know, it's it's it's I
understand to have feelings for Bob Gimlin, who is probably
the last person you know involved in it. Uh. And Bob,
Bob comes across as really mister, mister honest. But you

(34:47):
know the facts are if you just if facts matter
to you, is that you know, he's a pretty good storyteller. Uh,
it don't always fit the facts his story don't. And Uh,
it's facts that that I'm concerned about.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I don't judge people. I'm not as judge, but I
can't sit back and let him. You know what you
called what do they call that? Misinformation?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Little little misinformation? Yeah, there's there's there's a little bit
of that in the in the online communities too, Okay,
but uh but yeah, people don't like long alan b
which just says people don't always want the answers, okay
they Uh there's I mean, I I have been. I
don't want to. I'm not a victim, Okay, but I
know listen, I'm no victim. But uh, but when I
first came out publicly as a bigfooter, uh, I ended

(35:42):
up in some bigfoot hoaxer groups on Facebook, uh, saying
that I was. They were saying that I was somebody
that I wasn't. They thought I was a woman who
had shot her boyfriend or something. Oh yeah, they got
me confused with some other lady. Okay, but but I
know how that is. And I think when it comes
down to it with the cryptid world, in the crypti community, uh,
what did what did text say one time? They eat
their own Okay? And and so there's a lot of infighting,

(36:05):
a lot of hoaxers, a lot of plants. I hate
to say that, but this is such a big deal.
Mk uh to have something, a being that's not supposed
to exist, that we're told is a mythical, mythological creature.
When we're coming out here with facts and boots on
the ground, eyewitness accounts and we're telling the public about this,

(36:29):
there's going to be a backlash no matter what.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, I'm afraid, but the people people are going to
have to come around. I mean, it's you can't have
two sets of truth. Oh and at present time, this
is what's it is the fact, So you know it's

(36:51):
it's whenever I talk to Peter Burn. You know who
Peter Burn is?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yes, Oh I don't know, but I've heard of her.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
They called him one one of the four horsemen of
big footing. Well, he told me that he had a
conversation with Roger Patterson. Roger says that when they came
around the bend, that Patty right here was down at

(37:21):
this hole, squatted down, and she had a what he
took to be a large black rock in his hands
in her hands and she was licking it with her tongue,
and then she stood up and took off walking. So

(37:41):
that's where you see that right there where she was
walking away. But she had been down to this little
red pool and she had something that was black that
she had she was licking. It's that's that's not something

(38:01):
you're going to hear every day.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
But okay, well, MK, I had the pleasure in the
honor of watching your presentation and you actually showed another video. Okay,
so I know Gen and some other people in the
chat were saying, we like, there's got to be more
to all that video there is. Okay, there's actually another
video which actually what I what I can recall, was

(38:23):
like another bigfoot, a small one, maybe a juvenile that
some people were saying, well, maybe that was like her
child or something before this is like a pre video
before the Patty video that we all know and love,
was that her kid? Is that kind of what was
going on there?

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I really don't know. You know, when you get to
searching for other sasquatches, you know that you don't have
anything that's so in your face like Patty. You know
you got they would be way back in the background
or behind a log or somewhere, or would be hard
to see them. But I know that she was down

(39:03):
there with two others, so they're they're out there somewhere
mm hmmm. And it's It wouldn't surprise me a bit
if they were. If they were in the film I found,
I found some good candidates. You know, I could see
the movement, but it was like further out away along

(39:26):
the hillside. Huh, it it it, it is what it is. Uh,
you know, it's it. They these things had thrown culverts
down the hill on the opposite side. Like you see
Patty walking away right there. If you keep on walking,

(39:49):
you can go up the mountain side and see those culverts.
They're still there to this day.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
We're still there. Oh my gosh. We've we've actually, I
know you've been there before. You've been to Bluff Creek
and uh, and we've got brown Dwarf or Bigfoot dwarf
excuse me, as in the chat tonight. He uh, he's
been there as well. Now he he's told me before.
Now Bigfoot Dwarf who lives up in California. And I
think the last time we talked about Patty, he said, well,

(40:17):
you know that he him and the guys had wanted
you to maybe come have lunch with them out there
one day at Bluff Creek. And uh, because we do
bring you up quite a bit, kay, I'm just saying, uh,
but uh, but but he he's thought of the of
the mindset that like Patty was unlive, we can say
it unlived on YouTube. That's the word we have to
use sometimes for the censorship purposes. But uh, but but died.

(40:41):
You know, there's people that live up there that don't
don't agree with that. Okay, now, but I don't know
if they've seen this video or not, or the evidence
of it. But you know, it's just like with anything,
there's always people who were in this camp and people
were in another camp. Okay when it comes to.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
The well, I mean, I don't I don't fault people
for if if they don't buy into it, that's fine.
But if they want to know the truth of what
happened out there, you're going to have to open your
mind up to that because it was definitely what happened.

(41:20):
So you know, it's I don't think that people should
be angry at me for uncovering it. Uh you know,
I mean, if you're going to be angry, be angry
at at the people who who who actually performed it.
Now Here, this one right here, this picture right here

(41:42):
is uh, that's that four by five transparency on the
right hand corner there, upper right hand corner, and I'm
in miss Patterson's backyard, and I've got a piece of
type in paper that I've holding up behind it so
that the sun will shine on that type and paper

(42:03):
and make that image come through, because it's it's a
far projection, is what is far? Uh? And when you
put that type and paper behind it, it becomes like
a regular paper photo. Then you can see everything in
and you see my my thumb there. It's perfectly naturally colored.

(42:26):
And and that red is perfectly naturally colored.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Gosh, that's that's just heart wrenching. It's terrible.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
There. There's also some red right in here, a splattering
of red right in here on the sandbar.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Okay, so kay, I've actually so this is just a
rumor that I heard, okay, And I want to ask
you about this. I heard. This is what I heard.
I'm not saying it's true, okay. But what I heard
was that Patty died, okay, and that with the people
when they saw the aftermath after she had died. And
this might be way too controversial for TV right now, okay,

(43:12):
but but they said. What I heard was that the
people were so upset by the fact that she looked
like a human, that it was very traumatic for them. Now,
I don't know if that's something that you know about,
or like you've heard that, or if somebody just made
that up.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I believe that from what I've been able to gather
looking at the film and the other other associated films,
that they they they were really upset with themselves. They
realized that this was not a gorilla or an ape.

(43:50):
Semion Uh, Bob, Bob told me Bob Gimblin. He said
she had hair like that of an Indian. Oh really, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Now I've actually heard like my cousin Jesse. Okay, my
Jesse is my cousin, y'all In case people have not
heard me brag about my cousin, Jesse Duke. Yes, Jesse Duke.
He is my cousin who made the If you've ever
been to Expedition Bigfoot in North Georgia, that big old
Bigfoot out front that's made out of muscadine buys, Jesse
made that. Okay, so shout out to him. Okay, So

(44:26):
it's gravity Barn on social media, all right. But Jesse
has done a lot of work on sculpting Patty doing
busts like sculptures and stuff. And he has often talked
about her braid, that she had a braid in her hair. Mkay,
now what you have actually looked into that as well?

(44:47):
What do you say about that?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, yeah, she as far as I can tell, that's
what it is. Uh, it's got it's got a herring
bone pattern, you know with that what lock our braid does?
You know? The criss cross and it swings way out
above the ear and hangs over the ears. She's got

(45:10):
a pretty stiff wind to her back. And uh, let
me see, I might could find that on Facebook. Hold
on just second.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Here, Okay, yeah, I would love. I mean, there's there's
so many different things about Patty that that we have
not been privy to until you started looking into it.
Not only not only we have we talked about her braid,
but I don't know if there's a satchel two or

(45:40):
like a some people say that she had children around
her as well. So we'll go with the braid first.
I have so many questions. Ka, if you can't tell,
I won't say that.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
You can't argue. You know, it's a it's it's it's
very possible. Mm hmmm, let's see how I can find this.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Let's see, you know, having something like a braid in
the hair.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Oh can you see that? Yes, Now that's the raw image.
That's a little bit of a contrast boost. There it
is again, and there it is again. There it is.
It's just about an eight eight mile for our eight

(46:36):
or nine mile of our wind at her back. And
when she turned this way, that wind lifted that that
whole entire tuft of hair back over the ear.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Wow. Oh, that's right over her right here.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
There's the she's coming out over the ear and kind
of laying right there on the cheek.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I should have an animated one.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
This is it right? Let me get this bigger. Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
You know, I've always thought when I heard about the braid,
I was thinking it was down the back of her neck.
But this is just right above her ear.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Right, So a little short, short piece. You can see
it earlier in the film when it just blows. It
blows way out wide and lands right there. You see
the little harry bone pattern there.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Man, I'll tell you what this is. You you have
done more research on this video.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Gosh, well, hair management, you know that's that's usually not
not in the realm of semion. Hmm. If that's that's
gonna be in the re realm of you know, humanity. Uh,
I don't. I don't think that she's us. I don't.

(48:22):
I think it's just like the hoopas said, there was
another kind of person and that that's just seems to
be what you're looking at there. They're big, robust, heavy huh,

(48:43):
acclimated to the high peaks.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Mm hm. Oh yeah, well they're okay, so they.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Find their skeletons. Okay, let me uh, let me see
if I forgot that. This is the thing. I'm complete, okay, se.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Wow that this is all. This is so fascinating. I
actually mk, I really did appreciate during your presentation you
were talking about the different types of sasquatch and bigfoot
and uh and talking about, you know, we got the
type four which you're categorized as you know, like Neanderthal
wildman type and talking about I love how you I

(49:35):
don't know, you just you're talking about how like it's
like a mix between humans and something else.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
You know. Yeah, it's I that's that's pretty much the
way they describe it. It's you know, it's I've got
I put a lot of stock in the Indians because
they've lived there.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
They the hoop of Indians were never never put on
a reservation or anything. They hid out in the mountains
and finally the government gave up and let them just
come live where they've always lived. Yeah, so they I've

(50:25):
done a lot of looking into it.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Oh, you've got the hair braids.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Look at every kind of hair braid there was.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
There's a lot of different hair braids. Mkay listen, I'm
good at one. I can French braid my own hair,
but there's some fancy braids out there.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Now. If you've got the ability to to braid, then
in an art, you're well it's not just an art,
but it's you know, you gotta have some talent and intelligence,
you know, make yourself. They were, in fact that it
was even been concerned with how it looked, you know,

(51:10):
m that that that right to imagine imagine if if
you if you're standing over one and hitsing dispatched and
you see a braid.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they did, and they were probably
upset with themselves.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
It's been that's when that's when they really started emphasizing
the ape part of it was right after the taking
of that then, oh, because they needed to, and they're
just trying to keep it in the rim mm hmmm

(51:52):
of an animal. You know. Uh, I'm hoping I'd run
into that longer version, but I'm kind of stuck with
that my hard drive. So that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Well, that's amazing, that's pretty fantastic. And uh, you know,
I mean there's obviously been a big cover up with
this obviously, and uh, you know, people are always asking
me MKA, like, do you think we're going to get
disclosure on cryptids by our government? And I always say
absolutely not, no time soon. We are the disclosure. Okay,

(52:29):
if you want to find out about if you really
want to find out about bigfoot, dog men, aliens, any
kind of cryptid watch shows, you know, go to M K.
Davis's channel, Go to the Crypted hundred channel, go somewhere
like that where we talk about real life events, real
life encounters, and and that's where you're going to get
the real information right there, because there's there's obviously a

(52:52):
reason to cover all this up and uh, and to
not give us the full truth on it. And my goodness,
that they give us an inch, we're gonna take a mile, right,
so you know. But I mean, I've recently been presented
with some government documents that seem to be real of
topographical maps from the Air Force. Let's just say, for instance,

(53:16):
that have a sasquatch listed is a dangerous animal on there.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I don't know that I've seen that map. It what
it is is a map that they give people who
are taking a survival course with the military. They'll drop
them off into the woods for two weeks by their self,
and they give them nothing. They have nothing but this

(53:43):
but a few basic things, and they have this map.
And if the map shows them what to look out for,
what they what they know is in those woods. And
one of them is a sasquatch. Now I'm going to
go back to a dog.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Man, Oh, a dog man.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
And you see this, I.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Sure can help me pull that up. I told you
I was going to ask you about dog men tonight too.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Okay. This is a petroglyph in northern Arizona, somewhere around
the town of camp Verde. And this right here is
a saber tooth cat. See the sabers.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Okay, I love petrore Lyfts and died.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Well, somebody saw a saber tooth or they wouldn't have
no nothing to go by. Uh. Now this right here,
if you look carefully, that ain't a human ed.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
That's a dog headed man.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Look at that. And it's howling, is what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
It's it's doing something. There's this is all this is.
They put this one over the top because it is
it is mightier or than than these below. That's the
top of the food chaine right the right they put
top of the food chain exactly. And this this right

(55:17):
here stands for the for the four forces of creation
and these probably that's probably a dog man or something
that they call one right here. See he's got a snoop.
But they're up on their up on their hind legs.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I'll be well, you know what I mean, dog headed men.
Tribes of dog headed people go all the way back
to at least like the fifteen hundreds with the Perie
Reefs map showing tribes of dog headed people all over
the world.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Well, you know, first time I ever heard of a
dog man was many years ago. We were talking on
men and I was in a group on what they
call pal talk at the time, and this Native American
named Touklo too Clo Nashoba said something about a dog.

(56:17):
They had bigfoot and a dog me in there. That's
first time I'd ever heard of it. I didn't know
there was even such a thing. And ever since then
it seems to have taken the life of its own
and now it's a much more, a much bigger thing
than it used to be.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
It is, I got to tell you, kay. So you know,
I'm started off as a big foot field researcher and
that's what I still am. But when we're out there,
we're coming across weird tracks and other stuff. And it
wasn't until I started. I didn't go public for ten
years after I started doing my research, and I didn't
want to go public, but I did. I got to

(56:58):
ask to speak at a conference and here I am today. Okay,
But but you know, I never really looked into dog
man that much because we never really came across them
very often. But we did have other weird stuff going
on out in the field. But once I started doing
the podcasting, I started coming across a lot of people
who claimed to have had dog man encounters, and uh,

(57:19):
and so I have done. Let me tell you, we've
established it. Bigfoot exists. According to my research, I know
Bigfoot's real, and I had just not seen a dog
man yet. So I got interested in dog man because
that's the next level. Okay, that's like, that's like the
more that's a little more dangerous a little bit, because
they seemed to be a little more wild and ferocious. Okay,

(57:41):
and uh, and so I started looking, you know, I
started doing some dog man investigations. There's one I did
out in Alabama about a year ago and ended up
being Bigfoot out there when I thought I was going
to go find a dog man, but I actually did
end up having a what I believe is a dog
man encounter about two months ago out in Alabama. And
I think I've seen one for myself. Now I can't

(58:02):
say for positive it was a dog man, but it
shirt did looked like something I'd never seen before, and
it looked like an African dog but it was the
size of a bear and it moved like a panther. Okay,
So I do believe one hundred percent I believe they exist.
I think that I've probably seen one, and I gotta

(58:22):
wonder my question is, MKA, why are there so many
sightings of these right now where we weren't really getting
that many sightings back in the day.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I don't know that's a good question. You know. Recently
a bear is allegedly an alleged bear attacked a man
in Arkansas and he's in like really bad shape. Oh no,
and they say that that bear only weigheds seventy pounds.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
What.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, I've never heard of us.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
That's smaller than my son, he's eleven.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Okay. Usually if if they weighed seventy pounds, they don't
attack you. You know that that's up they I guess,
you know. I think I try to think along the lines, well,
how big do you have to be before you can
inflict some real damage on somebody? Well, apparently you gotta

(59:24):
be seventy pounds you can do it.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah, hey, listen to kay. I don't know about you,
but it's always my little friend. Okay, listen, I'm a
big girl. Okay, I'm like five eight, I can I'm not.
I don't like fighting, but I will. Okay. But I
remember when I was growing up, it was always my
smaller friends, my girlfriends that were smaller than me. Okay,
that would they were like little scrappies. Okay, if you

(59:50):
know what I mean, like it's like a chihuah wah
kind of Okay, I'm just saying, I'm not no shade, y'all.
I'm just saying, like chihuah WA's will bite you before
a you know, while they're usually Yeah, So I'm just saying,
maybe it's something little I don't know, I don't know
they get scrappy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Yeah. Well, if if it's like you know, a dog,
a dog, well, certain breeds of dogs could just absolutely
eat you alive. And if you can attack, imagine somebody,
you know, a dog man with the additional capabilities you know,

(01:00:30):
and able to stand up and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Okay, I wanted to Okay, I was just thinking about
like the capabilities of cryptids. Okay, And I wanted to
go back to this brown bigfoot Dwarf had just to
put this comment up and it said, so Patty wasn't
interdimensional if she was unlived or massacred. Okay, But but
I have watched some videos you made and you're showing Okay,

(01:00:58):
So so my search team, my boots on the ground,
field research teams, we I'm not gonna say, I'm not
gonna say interdimensional, but what I've experienced personally is there's
some kind of enhanced capabilities that these beings have. Okay,
and uh, and we've got you know, MK. There's the

(01:01:19):
two camps, the flesh and bone camp, and then there's
the interdimensional camp or the you know, the WU. The
WU camp is what they call it. Well, I'm in both, okay,
because I know that they're flesh and bone, but I
also know there's something we call the X factor as
far as my team goes, the X factor, now that
that includes orbs. I have actually been out in the

(01:01:41):
field MK, and I saw an orange orb go through
the trees and then as the light moved through the trees,
I heard a hoof, like real loud, like a huff
and a growl and and I believe it was a bigfoot. Okay,
So a constant that we have out in the field
are orbs. And also we have flashes of light. And

(01:02:04):
when we have a flash of light, you know, people
will be sleeping in their tents, in their hammocks. We'll
see a flash of light and then suddenly we hear
footsteps in the camp. Okay, I'm not saying they're coming
in and out of portals, but we don't know what's
going on. Okay, But flashes of light, now that's something
that you cover, you have looked into. And when Bigfoot

(01:02:25):
Dwarf says, uh, maybe she wasn't interdimensional, I don't know. Well,
I've seen a video where you're actually analyzing. There's a
flash of light in the Patterson film.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
It is there's a light flash in the Patterson film.
There's a tremendous burst of light and energy and the
Paul Freeman yes, which is, to be honest with you,
I suspect and it's just me. It's just a hutch.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Wait not that one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
That that that that you could you could be injured
by that light. Ah, yes, you know, maybe not short term,
but long term you could suffer from it. And I
would just like to mention that cause I just have

(01:03:16):
h I've seen enough cases of cancer amongst researchers that
it makes me, it makes me want to be cautious.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Okay, well let's let's talk about that for a minute. Okay,
because you know we've we mentioned our good friend Bob
Wilson and and Bob and Tim as well one of
my both of my best friends who are on my team.
We work on a project called the Meadow Project. We
actually had a portal that showed up in our research

(01:03:52):
area one night, and Bob and Tim were the two
gentlemen who were sent over to check it out, and
NK when they walked up into this area, they didn't
know what they were checking out, and they disappeared. Their
heat signatures disappeared when they got up to this big
cube that you could see only in our the thermals
and the flear and and they knew there was something off.

(01:04:14):
The environment changed. They backed out of it, and they
later described we later described it as being like a portal. Okay, Well,
fast forward to the day and they've both passed away,
and we've we've all always been. Tim and Bob both
passed away, and they were healthy before that for the

(01:04:34):
most part. You know, Bob's Bob got an aggressive form
of cancer as cancer came back after that, and and
Tim got a heart condition, and so you know, we're
always taking measurements of like we take our geigermeters out
there and we do like base readings every time we're
out in the field, and and there's usually there was
always a spike of radiation no matter how small it is,

(01:04:55):
every time something happens out there in the field.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
So there's different there's different types of radiation, you know, alpha, alpha, beta,
and gamma. Uh. I used to work with gamma radiation
and it will penetrate steel pipes and tell you tell
that we would take readings on the density of the
liquid in the pipe and it was seesium. Caesium was

(01:05:24):
what they used to get a gamma ray. But uh,
I've just noticed over the years, especially since since I've
come to realize that these bursts were were taking place.
I know that I know that Paul Freeman himself, his

(01:05:44):
his health went straight downhill after he took Yeah, he
sure did well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
He got zamped. Okay, so you you broke that video down.
You've broken that video down, and there's actually a Okay,
So for people who aren't familiar with the Paul Freeman footage,
this is uh it's it's basically a bigfoot walking through
the woods. That heat is pretty close to where he's standing,
and it actually looks through MK through your analysis of it, it
does look like it's actually picking up a kid and

(01:06:12):
you can see its feet bouncing up and down. After
the mama grabs it, but before she goes and gets
the kid, there's a flash of life. Now I have
personally been zapped, not too bad, but I have definitely
been zapped, is what we call it, by a big
foot before it's a flash of energy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
If you watch the face, the face of the Paul
Freeman bigfoot, it turns completely white all the way across.
When I first saw him, I said, well, that must
be some kind of oil on her face, and it's
catching sunlight, but it's on the dark side as well.
Her entire face starts to glow and then pow that

(01:06:55):
burst of life. So that that's why I look for. Yeah,
if if I look for, if I see something that's glowing, yeah,
you know that. You know, there's no reason for it
to glow, it's just glowing. I go back up. Yeah,

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that's what the that's what the Hoop has said to do. Anyway,
they the Hoop has said, if you see bigfoot, speak
to it in the language whatever language you know, and
at the same time back away.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Really, I wish I had known that to begin with.
That would have helped.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I know now I believe that uh that back in
the way is UH speaking to it confuses the Bigfoot
because it doesn't know for sure if you are by
yourself or not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Oh, we know my team, Okay, so my team, mkay,
we've we have one of my original team. We've we've
really tuned into pellopathic communication side of Bigfoot encryptids and
and that's what we do. That's why we're all trained
in remote viewing and trying to get into the telepathy
aspect of it, which is really weird to a lot

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of people, but it works. It works for us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
We had a good bit about the government's school of
of remote viewing that they maintained for quite a few years,
and they had better than a fifty actors. And that's that.
That can't be accidental.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
It's not, it's not. I do a show every Thursday,
and I'm always shocked at the results of my remote
viewing data on some of those targets.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
It's wild.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
It's wild. But uh but yeah, it's uh but but
that is that is good information right there. And uh
And I also wanted to Okay, so I actually did
take a screenshot. I know I didn't tell you this,
but I took a screenshot. I've been watching a lot
of your videos mkay. And and there's a one where
you had like a secession of like three pictures of
a glowing being and uh, and I'll show it you.

(01:09:08):
I refresh your memory case you don't know what I'm
talking about. This right here, it's like there were three
pictures of this thing and it was like a glowing
It wasn't a glowing bigfoot on somebody's porch or something
like somebody's door handle had been getting messed with. Do
you remember that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Yeah? I do remember then.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Okay, did you want me to pull that back up
so you had it up on your screen? Okay? What
is going on with this?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
It was three successive steel photos and I put them
together to make a you know, an animated and you
can see that light moving around on this building right
here from office thing that that right there where it
was taken. That thing was eight feet tall. Good grief, Yeah,

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and just glowing to beat the band.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Wow, that's pretty wild. I mean to see it glowing
off the building like it's actually the the glow of
it is bouncing off the wall behind it. And my
my question is like, what what was it doing? It
was messing with the door handle, trying to get in
this people's house.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Yeah, it pulled the door door knob off. Oh my god,
that'll make you got.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
That made me put some more locks on my door
and put some stronger bolts and nuts on my door,
screws and stuff. I don't know. Uh, that's scary, you know.
I actually had my my good friend Gary Spikes is
in the chat tonight, was up Gary, and Gary was
on the show last Saturday night. And uh, and he
he has a clan or a family of bigfoots on

(01:10:50):
his property where he lives, and he has actually had
them come inside his house at some point. And is
that something that you've heard of out It's not common,
but like, have you ever heard of that come in
people town?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
I have heard of that, but it's it's not a
bigfoot is pretty good size, you know, if there's a
physical restraint locked the door of our office of the door,
and if it's if it's a purely physical it can't

(01:11:28):
push its way through. But if it's not entirely physical,
if there is some other aspect, you know, then then
it could probably.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
Just Oh, I love how you say that. If it's
not something completely physical, and that's something that we're trying
to figure out on my my research teams is like,
what is this X factor? You know, what is it exactly?
Because you know, I have reports of and we've experienced
this ourselves of like Bigfoot's just disappearing, appearing and disappearing

(01:12:03):
before our eyes. Okay. And orbs, the orbs, like I said,
are a constant. But trees, okay, let's let's talk about
trees for a second. If that's okay, Trees possibly as portals.
And I want to bring this up only because I
have one of my teammates, Tony Green. Okay, I think
Tony's camping tonight. I'm not sure, but Tony Tony has

(01:12:26):
been on my show before and he talked about a
case back when he his uncle. It was a long
time ago. Uh, his uncle had an encounter where like,
what was an encounter he was the cops came to
his house. Okay, I know this is kind of Tony
told the story, so it's okay, I can tell the world.
But the cops came to his house and he ran

(01:12:48):
out the back door running from the police, and the
family said that as he ran behind a tree, he
came out the other side as a dog okay, and
then ran off into the woods. And I'm not saying
there wasn't any black magic involved, okay, because that is
that is a thing too, okay, especially down here in
the South. And they said when the cops left, a

(01:13:09):
dog came out of the woods, went behind the tree,
and then his uncle walked out the other side. And
that is a story that stands by. He swears by it,
he swears it happen. Okay. Well, that that's just one story.
But there's a lot of stories of bigfoots coming out
of trees and using a tree. It's almost like a portal. Now,
I do believe portals are real. We've experienced some numerous

(01:13:31):
times out in the field. One of them has been
documented that many have not been documented in videos. What
do you think about trees being portals? What is what
is going on with that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Well, a tree, a lot of people don't, don't look
at them like this, But a tree is a living thing.
It's kind of life force, just like animals do in
humans if they can, they cannot. They can't pull their

(01:14:03):
roots up and become mobile, but they do move. They
will lean toward a light source. Uh. They are animate,
just very very much slower than we are. But if
if if you get a tree, a whole forest full
of trees, and they all combine to uh produce quite

(01:14:29):
a bit of energy. As a matter of fact, if
you could back away from the earth and get look
at it from afar, it would be broadcasting energy like
no tomorrow it would it would be glowing. Uh and
and most of it would be from the vegetation trees.

(01:14:54):
So you know, it's a uh it's not a new concept.
It's pretty old. You've heard of wood? Have you heard
of wood? No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Woods allegedly can enter a tree and live in it,
you know, actually not not in a cavity, but actually
living as part of the tree. Uh. And it's they
show them when they come out of the tree as
being They depict him as being Harry on two legs

(01:15:28):
and harry.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I went to I went to a doctor's office, and
I looked on his his furniture, and all of his
furniture had wood woves is carved on them. Really, you
know that that's an old, old European type stuff. Mm hmm,
it's ah. They were put they put those on there

(01:15:53):
so that the wood wolves could not enter in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Man so that's that's that's like an elemental of some sort,
like a gnome or something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Maybe maybe someone I don't know, but it's it's it's
something that's very old, a very old belief. But uh,
you know, the trees are not not not take be
taken lightly. I mean, there is much a part of
the earth we couldn't make it without. Uh, and they're

(01:16:25):
they they're full of energy. And the sap comes out
of the ground and goes all the way to the top,
and then in the wintertime it comes back down through
the tree, back out and through the roots. Uh. You know,
the tree leans toward the light it you know, all

(01:16:46):
of those things. Whenever a bigfoot wax a tree, I
wouldn't just assume that they're trying to communicate with you
or with any other bigfoot. It's possible that they could
be stirring the spirit in the tree, uh, whacking it

(01:17:10):
and causing it to wake up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
That's a good point, you know. Sometimes I think that
they're actually clicking their tongue sometimes too, and that's what
we think these wood knots are. But we do find
a good bit of tree structures out there now. I
am also trained in survival skills and stuff and tracking.
And I know that like people make debris huts out

(01:17:33):
in the woods. I've made my own debris hut before
because I had to, Okay, And so I know that
not everything that we see out there is bigfoot made,
as man made some of it. But there are a
lot of tree bends and things that we can't explain,
and some that are tied up and twisted around and
stuff that only a bigfoot probably could do. And I

(01:17:56):
and I've been told that sometimes those tree binds and stuff,
or actually bigfoots like harnessing the energy almost like a battery,
like take it. I don't I don't know how that works. Uh,
but that's what I've heard before. And uh. And something
that I wanted to ask you about tonight because I
was watching a video you did. You're talking about your

(01:18:16):
your presentation you gave at the wild Man Conference, I think,
and U and he showed a sketch that a Russian
guy had left on your own on a napkin under
your windshield wiper, and uh, and I had some interesting
drawings on it. And UH and I actually I took
some screenshots. I hope you don't mind. MKA I know,
I sound like a like I'm a stalker or something.

(01:18:39):
I'm taking I take screenshots of everything, but uh, but
I was, I was almost I wasn't trying to decipher it,
but like I was thinking, on on one of these,
this is and you will have to explain to the
audience what this is, okay, But on on one of these,
I saw this an X and it was pointed down
to the ground, and uh, and I was wondering if

(01:19:00):
maybe he was showing like an X structure that a
bigfoot had made and pointing down like there's something underneath it,
because we're always trying to figure out what do these
X structures mean?

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Well, Scott Nelson, he uh the first person who who
told me what those words meant on the napkin? Can
you go back to the other side, okay? The one
on the left is Russian for I am here. Okay,
But I didn't know until I went to the mcmahonville conference.

(01:19:33):
Scott Nelson was there, the linguist and his and his
either wife or girlfriend she was also a linguist, and
they asked to look at it, and she says, well,
that's true. This does say I am here. But the
one on the right says Old, I am I am Old.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Wow, Now what is this?

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
You guys you were with a Japanese film crew and uh,
they were they were wanting to go up to Bluff
Creek or do some filming about Patty I guess the
film and and uh and you were with them, and
you guys stopped by to get a burger. And this
man must have overheard y'all talking, right, is that trying
to kind of back up to let the audience know
what we're what we're talking about here? Uh? They this

(01:20:19):
guy was listening to you guys, but he didn't talk
to y'all. But then he left us note underneath your
windshiel wiper.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Yeah. He Uh. He was a really tall guy, very slim,
and he had long locks of hair, curly hair, and
he really never spoke to us, but he did ask
the uh the waitress for an ink pan, and so

(01:20:49):
he sat there drawing while we were, you know, looking
at They were ordering a big foot burger. It was huge,
did it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
What did it consist of bigfoot meat? Skidding?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Well that I don't know. They advertised as a bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
I'd eat it, I'd as long as it didn't have
bigfoot in it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
They But anyway, this fella had he left before us,
and we didn't think anything about it. And when we
went out to our car, that nack and that he
was drawing on was under our winshe wife, and and
he wanted to convey that message where bigfoot could enter

(01:21:33):
that tree and not come out the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Oh okay, that's why I knew. I was asking you
this about the trees. That's why I was wondering about.
That's why I was okay. So that's that was one
of the connections that I was making, and I forgotten about.
It was with the because the second side or maybe
the other side, was an X with an arrow pointing down,
and I'm wondering, Like I saw that, and the first
thing I thought about were X structures in the woods,

(01:22:01):
and like, none of us really know what those mean
other than that being a marker of some sort. But
he's got an arrow pointing down, so like, well, maybe
that means that there's something under the ground right there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
I mean, I am here and I am old.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
I'm here and I'm old. Hey that sounds like me.
I'm here and I'm old too. I'm just kidding I'm
not as old as them though.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Well, then they show him doing this this fantastic feat
of actually getting entering into a tree. You see this
guy on the this is number one. That's number two.
Is that number?

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
It says one and two?

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
I see it now, Okay, number one he uh, he's
he hasn't reached the tree yet. And then number two
he has reached the tree and did not emerge out
the other side, even though he was bigger than the tree.
This wild so that you want to, for lack of

(01:23:07):
a better word, that he could have been calling the
wood he could that's what that's what wood wolves has
had allegedly could do. Uh. But woods wood wolves might
be just another name for a big you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Uh, it could be I'm gonna look that up. I'm
gonna start looking stuff like that up. Okay, but but
that is something that you know, my friend Barry Littleton,
who's in the chat tonight with up Berry, he's a
big fan of yours too, by the way. Uh, he
and I have talked extensively about trees being portals. You know,
I've even done shows on trees that walk, okay walking trees,

(01:23:44):
and and we've had people in the audience that said
that they they have actually talked to a tree and
asked the tree to touch them, and the leaves will
pull down and actually touch them and stuff. So trees
are alive. Yes, trees are alive, and and they they
will touch you on command, maybe if you want them to.
Sounds like Alice in Wonderland, though doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
It's it kind of does it does? Let me see here?

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
Oh and also tree stumps. Mike Pray is saying, ran
across the field, stop and turn into a tree stump. Now,
bigfoots have been known also to either turn into tree
stumps or look like tree stumps. Kay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Right, I've heard many a person say I thought he
was a stump, then he stood up and ran off. Okay.
Wood was is a mythical medieval figure, a hairy, wild,
naked man of the woods, comparable to the classical satire
or phone. These figures were common in medieval art, appearing

(01:24:48):
in sculptures, painting, heraldry, and sometimes described in folklore. The
term is an archaic English word for this wild man,
and it also refers to depictions of the creature and
fabric or as a herald heraldic supporter. So you can

(01:25:08):
see the picture.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
I think that's a bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
It looks looks very much like one, don't it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
It's a wild man of the woods or wild woman.
Can't leave out the women. Yeah, that looks like it
looks like a typical wild man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Right. But he's he's but he has the ability to
enter into a tree and disappear. And and but whether
that's true or not, I don't know. But it was
something like that that fellow was drawing on that napkin.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Hmm. Well, I think that the bigfoots are able to
utilize Earth's natural portals, and and I do believe that
Barry and I Berry has given me a remote viewing
target of that. I think that there's you know, I
personally believe that bigfoots are ancient beings. Potentially some of

(01:26:07):
them are. I think they're all different, but they're probably
pretty ancient, and they probably know how to pick up
on things that us humans don't. And that would include
a natural portal on Earth, I think. And whatever that means,
however that works, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Well, I can tell you that when men I took
the Japanese guys on down to Bluff Creek, we found
a set of tracks. And those tracks were four inches
deep and very very firm ground, and there's probably twelve

(01:26:47):
to fifteen of them. And then they just stopped dead cold.
They didn't come back the way they came. Yeah, they
just stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
That happens. And sometimes we'll actually find just one print. Okay,
So talking about Bob again, I'm gonna bring up Bob
as much as I can tonight. Uh, Bob, Bob actually
had an incense where he was out doing some hiking.
I think we might have been around the meadow one
of our research spots, and he found one child sized footprint,

(01:27:21):
one tiny little footprint, like a toddler size, maybe four
or five year old, anywhere from like two to four
year old kid, a kid footprint, just one in the
in the creek bed, basically right there. It didn't make
any sense none, None of this ever makes sense. Okay,
a lot of things just don't make sense to us.

(01:27:42):
There's another Is that a wild man?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Yeah? It says, uh, it's a tapestry showing a wood
wost being tamed by a virtuous lady.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Tamed by a virtuous lady. So you know what that
that could be too showing it says team by a
virtuous woman. But there have been cases of bigfoots and
female women reproducing. I'm not saying that's what if she's virtuous.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Well, anyways, as far as the ranger there and Bluff
Creek told me that in the eighteen forties there were
ten thousand Chinese in the Bluff Creek area and they
were they had their families with them. They were doing

(01:28:41):
hydraulic gold mining, you know, with these pumps, and they
were washing the banks away and then collecting up the
sand and getting the gold out of it. For X
number of years, a decade or two. Those people were
in there, and they had problems they.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Did, Yes, what kind of problems they have.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Well, they ended up with a lot of women being
taken and oh and then the women, a few of
them came back expecting. Oh oh, it wasn't common that
they got pregnant, but it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
But it did happen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Well, Uh, that's that's what they were telling me, that
the bigfoot in that area are descendants of those those unions.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Oh well, we hear about that sometimes, you know. Even
you know, there's a famous Russian story and too about
the ladies of Xana. I think it was her name. Yeah,
and she has descendants to this day. Okay. It was
like half human half bigfoot sasquatch. Also, we have stories
like the Cherokee legend of Sukuloo. Okay, it's one of

(01:30:00):
my favorites. I've spent some time up at Judicola Rock
in that area with Chief David Webb and some people
back a long time ago. And uh, the story of
sukal who was like he was either a just some
people say he was a giant human, others say he
was a bigfoot, but no matter what, he was a
giant of some stature. And he had a human girlfriend
and and so you know that's one of the more

(01:30:23):
mild stories.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's what they were. The hoopahs were telling
me that Patty is most likely not a full blooded bigfoot.
Really yeah, she's probably most likely a hybrid. Uh. And
you can see that she's not sure. Her hair coverage

(01:30:47):
is patchy at best. Yeah, yeah, you can. She's she's
a little different. Her foot her foot is shaped just
like a great, big, giant flat footed man. Uh. But
you look at the footprint left by the Paul Freeman subject,
and it's our glass shape with splayed toes and uh,

(01:31:11):
that's they look quite different from one another that I'm
inclined to think. That's probably accurate. This is something that
the Indians have known. But you know, white people don't
listen to Indians too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Well, we should, we should listen more. For sure, we'll do.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
All those all those people that Harvey Pratt drew and
David Piloti's book were dead accurate. And the people signed,
the witnesses signed off on them, and and people were
complaining because they look too human.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
They look to human. Well, probably because they got some
human in them. I mean if you look at like
the genome studies and stuff like that, the Melbourn Ketchum research,
they say, this's like half human and the mother's side
is human, and then there's the father and paternal side
is something different, something else.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Yeah, that would be probably the uh, the ones that
went back to the stars and through a hole in
the sky through a portal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Yeah, probably through a portal. Now I know portals are real.
That's the thing. There's portals. Listen, m K. One of
my main things that I talk about when I give
presentations are all these missing people out of our national
parks and uh and trying to figure out where all
these people going. Okay, and I don't think Bigfoot's taken
all of them, I really don't, but they're going somewhere, okay.

(01:32:39):
And uh, and these are the ones that, like David
Politis cover, So it's not the ones that are like
or people could have gotten eaten by a cat or
a bee cat or falling off the side of a cliff.
These are like anomalous happenings. So I don't think it's
all it's all Bigfoot, but there's something. I think it's
portals and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Maybe they'll find it. They'll find them eventually and find
them in a place where they've already looked.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
He's right exactly, Jane says, thinks David thinks it's a UFO. Well,
here's an interesting interesting thing about David plaitis he is
a big foot field researcher. To y'all, he used to be. Okay,
and uh, it's interesting. He never really brings that up
too much. But I don't know it's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
He's a he's he's got a law enforcement background and
he's gonna he's he conducts his investigations much the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
So he's not gonna say anything unless he absolutely has
it in his hand. You know. Uh, that's uh that
that's in many ways, that's a plus. Really it is.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Well, it shows you he's a good investigator and he
doesn't see it like and you and I both know
it's important to have an open mind about stuff and
not labeled things and just assume one thing is one
way when it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I always keep it very but I'm always very skeptical
about stuff too. Okay, I don't lie. I I I'm
very skeptical about stuff, and I like to look at
all sides of it. Okay, but uh, but these people
are going missing. I don't know where they're going. But
I think there's something more. It's got to do with
that X factor. I think that we talk about the
X factor, and we're talking about portals, we're talking about anomalies,

(01:34:28):
we're talking about u even UFOs and stuff like that
potentially could be a factor as well. So I don't know.
I mean, you're talking about petroglyphs earlier, and we're looking
I'm seeing petroglyphs of dinosaurs, okay, and okay, like dinosaurs
are not supposed to have existed amongst humans, like things
like you showed earlier and I don't know you've got

(01:34:50):
you got something upper air? So I pulled this up.
Yeah no, yeah, oh I thought you had a I
thought you had were still okay?

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
Yeah? Now, allegedly, allegedly in nineteen twelve, the US cavalry
shot and killed two a saber tooth. They hesitate to
call them cats because there's there's a lot of the

(01:35:23):
characteristics of a saber tooth or not feline number one
number one. That particular type, the smilodon, has plenty grade feet,
it can walk on its hind legs.

Speaker 1 (01:35:38):
It can walk on its hind legs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
At least stand up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Maybe that's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
I didn't know that. That is strange. And those teeth
are serrated on the backside and flat, they're not round
almost all cats around canines. The eyes are different too.

(01:36:07):
It's it's what did they shoot and if they shot
to why did they decide not to not to advertise it?

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
Oh yeah, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Well the same place this just uh Petrick glyph, the
same area.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Well, I don't know about you, but you know we
mentioned the sasquatch being on a map of the air
force or whoever whatever you know, group that was with.
I believe, I personally believe our government is fully aware
of all of this. And uh, some people actually suggest
that maybe they're using Bigfoot and Dogmen and these other

(01:36:52):
cryptis as assets. Now is that too far fetched?

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Kay?

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Well, I don't know if I knew anything about him,
you know, you could make that, You can make that
decision whether you thought it was real or not. But
we don't. We don't have one to study, you know,
so we don't really know for sure what we're dealing with.
But now it's it's it's as far as the There

(01:37:23):
was a guy that was in Bluff Creek when everything
happened down at Bluff Creek. He was a timber cruiser
what they called him. They marked the trees to cut.
He was nineteen years old and his name was ly Laborty,
and Lyle Laborty went on to become Deputy Secretary of

(01:37:46):
the Interior.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
Oh Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
He took pictures of the trackways that became quite famous.
That one, the one that Jeff Meldrom used, shows that
mid tars whole thing. Lyle l Aberny took that picture. Wow.
So how does the government not know he was there?

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
Oh my gosh, what is that group? Okay, so there's
some group that I've talked about before. It's called the
Concatenated Order of the Who Who. I know, Okay, that
sounds so weird, right, but if you look it up,
I think it's called the Concatenated Order of the Who
Who And it is the oddest name and it makes
everybody laugh. But it's some sort of secret society that

(01:38:36):
has to do and they actually have a logo. It's
a black cat okay, and the Concotnated Order of the Who.
I'm pretty sure that's what it's called. But it's like
a forestry workers. It's almost like the Freemasons kind of
of like this some kind of like inside secret society
and h and some of youple are like attributing that.

(01:38:57):
I'm not saying this is true or like I believe this,
but I'm just saying it is kind of like a
people say, maybe it's why we don't have a lot
of information about where all these missing people are going
and stuff. It's because they have like a secret society
of like forestry workers, our national parks and stuff. I know,
it's a it's a deep rabbit hole. Okay, it's a

(01:39:18):
deep rabbit hole. But if you ever get a chance
to look up the cat needed order of the who
who and I know me, I had never heard rabbedy this, Okay,
but I think that I want to say, Teddy Roosevelt
was a member of it. Okay, and he's the one
that created all of our national parks, I'm pretty sure.
So yes, yeah, uh, we can go down a lot

(01:39:44):
of rabbit holes, thank you. Yes, this is for entertainment
purposes only. I have to reiterate that during my shows
where I'll get in trouble. Okay, it is for entertainment
purposes only. We get too close to the truth sometimes,
and uh, and it's a weird it's a weird truth.
It's a weird rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
But but nonetheless, yeah, there's there's just a whole lot
of a whole lot of things that have been covered up,
kept from the general public. Some people think it's a
good thing, you know. I mean there's a lot of
people who still don't believe in Bigfoot. If you can
believe that, Okay, I know Bigfoot's real, mk, you know

(01:40:21):
Bigfoot's real. I mean there's no way that that Patty
video is a person in a suit right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Well, so there can't be it can't be both both
real and unreal. It's not to be one or the other.
And that that film definitely puts you there and it's
it's it, It is factual. It had light reflecting off

(01:40:52):
of it and recorded on film just what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
It is. Now, we didn't get to detail too much
about what what exactly was going on with her. Now
we showed the blood. Okay, what looks like a pool
of blood, but you have videos m K where it
looks as though there could be bullets going through the
muscles in her legs, in her thighs.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
Yeah, there's a there's a place on her leg that
suddenly bulges. Yeah that if At first, I think Bill
Muntz was saying that it's an anomalous on a film defect.
But if that's not true, because it's got it's got

(01:41:38):
a shadow beneath it. When when it's sticking up bulging,
you can see a shadow beneath it and the sun
hitting it on top. So it's it's literally something made
that muscle well, all of a sudden, within within two
or three frames, it was back down. Yeah, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
So basically, so the the analysis of that would be
that she got shot by a like around.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
Around That's what it would look like if you shot
somebody in the leg from off the field of view. Yeah,
and her leg actually kicks inwards, but she catches it.
It kicks toward the middle, you know, like not need
and she brings it back straight and continues to walk.

(01:42:35):
Evidently it went through the quad muscle. There's four, four
of those muscles on the upper leg, and you can
walk with three of them. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Well okay, well, well, when someone had post posed the
question of like, well, she couldn't have been interdimensional, could she?
If if she's being shot at well, here's my take
on all this. Okay, this is my take, is my
opinion on it. And I didn't I did see. I
am a mom, I'm a mother, a mama, okay, And
and i will do anything to save the life of

(01:43:11):
my child. And I'll be a decoy to save his
life if I have to be. And and I feel
like if there were other children, and it seems like
I've seen some analysis of like maybe a child maybe
peeking up from behind a log, is that is that
part of that video?

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Yeah, well no, not that one, but I do have that, Okay.
Al Hodson, I have an interview that I did with
him in two thousand and eight. He was one of
the principles involved with all of that. He says that
there was a little small child's print along with the

(01:43:50):
large prints. So that takes I take it explains a lot.
It does.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
Okay, Well, that that actually makes sense. And that's why
I kind of was prefacing with all this is like,
I'm I'm a mom, and I would I would do
anything to take the you know, save my son's life, okay,
and to think about if she were being shot at,
and I do believe she was to try to be
like a decoy, and people were asking like, well, why

(01:44:20):
why wouldn't she just like vanish and disappear if she's
interdimensional or if they can like walk through a portal,
we'll she's trying to save her son's arts. I say,
her son. I don't know her child's life, okay, and
maybe maybe that's why, but I don't know. I mean,
I guess we'll never really know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
Well, and No. Number one is is that if what
the hoopas say is true, that she's probably not completely
a full blooded Sasquatch, you know, which may may be
an impairment to walking through portals. I don't know, just speculating,

(01:44:58):
but h that that also, like you say, some unusual
stuff was happening. Yeah, if they had in any way
had her or her offspring, like I said, I wouldn't,

(01:45:19):
I wouldn't leave either.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
I know, I know right, I would. I would do
whatever I had to do to be a decoy or whatever. Okay,
I just saved my son's life.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
The old bear hunter told me, and he knew an
awful lot about it. He told me that see what
what he said that that was her third trip to
that walk, to that red hole. And that's why they
got the film is because they already were ready for Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
No, do you think that was where maybe one of
her children had died?

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Is that what the whatever she was holding and with
licking it? I figure was.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
Yeah, yeah, that that hurts my heart actually thinking about that.
That's really sad. And and then they came back and
started shooting at her. Man I didn't listen, y'all. I'm sorry, audience.
I hope we have not upset anybody tonight about this.
And you know, Barry and I had done a show
a couple of year or two ago about this, and
and we did get some pushback on it when it

(01:46:27):
came to us going over that data where it suggested
that she had been shot. And and now I think
that we're we're discussing that again tonight, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
So I did want to say, yeah, you gotta gotta
cut us some slack and let us talk. Uh. It's
it's it's there's not two sets of truth. That red
hole you see, you saw it, yes, and it is.

(01:46:58):
It didn't get there by itself, right. I dug I
dug down into the sand bar. You can get about
three three and a half feet, and then the water
starts coming back in from the creek. It leaches into it. Uh.

(01:47:19):
And when they buried the stuff, the renderings from the
deceased individuals, the water came back in on it and
floated them back up. And they had to they had
to dig a new hole and take them out of
that hole. They went over next to the mountain side

(01:47:41):
and put them, put them in a deeper hole.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
Oh so they buried them.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Buried parts of them. Not only God, they they took
what they needed to make a taxidermy mount.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
Oh my god, can I tell you something? Okay, So
that actually lines up with what this one fellow has
been saying online.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
There's a guy who is a famous he's like a
security guard, used to be the head of security or
something for like famous rappers and stuff. And and he's
gone on on record to say that he was at
this guy, this millionaire billionaire's house. Millionaire billionaire I don't know,
but guess people are billionaires today. But he was at

(01:48:25):
his house and he said that he walked in and
this guy showed him a taxiderm bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
Yeah, that's quite possible. Uh. The the bear hunter told
me that the that they took the stuff that they
that they took off, you know, you got to cut
it a certain way and you you leave behind, you know,
the fleshy parts and it. Uh. They they sent them

(01:48:58):
off to who's a Russia?

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Russia?

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Russia. There was a black market in Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
I tell you what. All these elites are eating mermaids
and stuff and taxiderm and bigfoots. What the heck? I
tell you what, when you get money, you get corrupted. Apparently,
I don't know, you can do whatever you are.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
I don't know what they get for good grief, but
evidently it was worth doing that. M.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
Big homie Ceec that must be his name. Thank you,
Bigfoot Dwarf. I appreciate that. Y'all can go look that up.
This guy's been dropping some knowledge. Okay, this big homie
CC guy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
I got those conversations with the bear Hunter recorded. Oh
you do? Yeah, so you know anybody can hear?

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Wait? Is that is that the Hunter from the from
the Patterson Gimlin film The Hunter that you've got all
the videos of.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
He is? He? He was there. He tried to talk
in the second person.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
He's the first person.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
He he knew some things that you know, he had
to be there to know him.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
He's like, I'm just asking for a friend, but it's him.
Oh man busted. Okay, well yeah, sometimes give it away
if you know a little bit too much about that.
But he at least that he was. He spoke on it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
I guess yeah, he was. He was dying. His kidneys,
his kidneys were quitting on him.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
M M.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
And he he was on a dialysis and he was
tired of the dialysis. He didn't like it. And the
lady and one of the nurses told him, well, you're
gonna have to You're gonna have to do it or else,
and he says, I just I ain't gonna do it

(01:50:56):
no more. He called me and told me that he
was just gonea waited out until he died. It had
been it had been two weeks without dialysis when he
called me, and uh so I know he didn't have long.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Well, that's how we're actually getting some of these deathbed confessions.
That's how we're getting some information about the dogmen. And
you know, I've watched a documentary from about the long
Land between the Lakes where there's been fishing game guys
talking to there's a gentleman who claims to have seen
a couple that was massacred by a dog man there.

(01:51:41):
It was his deathbed confession. That's the only way we're
going to get some of the disclosure for some of this.
I think, Kay, through these deathbed confessions, I said.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Something that I wouldn't want to see. Uh yeah, that's
that's a yeah. But anyways, the whole story is rather
it's grewsome in a lot of ways, but it's it's
it explains an awful lot.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
So you know it's it's There can't be two sets
of truth.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
It's either right or it's wrong, and it's it's There's
a lot of things that you see on the film
and a lot of things that I know through miss
Patterson that that it just about had to happen like that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
Yeah. Well, I have to say that if it weren't
for you going and getting that film, we wouldn't be
here today, okay, talking about the incredible I mean, I'm
not saying like it's not it wasn't disclosed, you know
before you got that film, Okay, but for you to
be able to show us the clear images of Patty, uh,

(01:52:54):
this is something that we would not have if you
had not done that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
They weren't going to show it. It wasn't their intention
to show it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Mm hmmm. Uh we do have Okay. So, my friend
Buried Littleton, one of your biggest fans, is in the
audience right now. MK. He and I do a lot
of work together. He said, Jessica, can you ask him
about the Texas habituation? What is the Texas habituation? I've
heard a lot about this, m K.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
That that's East Texas. There's a group out there that
I hate to use the term habituation. Okay, maybe it
was more like provocation. Oh. They whenever they did something
that they realized got a reaction from the Bigfoot, then

(01:53:46):
they would double down on it and do it great
greater amounts and to it, and they make they'd make
these uh setups and things that would attract the big
for it to make them more do it, strange things,
things you wouldn't think would be anything. Uh. They know,

(01:54:06):
they noticed that that that there were these tires that
some people had thrown off of an old bridge on
the back of the place. And they noticed that those
tires were being moved around at night, and so they
chained them all together with a big old logging chain.
And then next thing you know, that the tires were

(01:54:29):
hung up in trees. Uh. So they they kept on it,
provoking them. And and after I don't know whether it
was months or even a year, they had moved those
tires all the way back up to the to the
home place, to the farm, and they put them out

(01:54:54):
in the garden and drove this big old steak in
the ground and and changed them to the state. And
when you see the fence climber, he's he's trying to
get to that those tires. That's that's what he was doing.
He runs, he runs.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Is this from that video? Mkay? I'm sorry, I don't
mean interrupt you. Is this from that video? Is that
the fence climber video.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
That's that's the same place, but that this is about
ten or twelve years later. That's me in that little
in the gate way back off the distance. But that's
the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
Okay. And there was this tree and it had it
has had a handprint on it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
Right, it's got several print face prints and a handprint.
See yeah, handprints on the left. You can see the fingers.
That's why I'm saying this. That stuff right there, it
was that radiation comes out of their face first, and
I don't know why, but but it it It burned

(01:56:01):
itself into that tree tree bar and and uh, I
would definitely be really cautious about getting close to them
because they could. They can do it. They can put
a hurting on you in a lot of ways without
even trying.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
Wait, so you think that's radiation coming out of them,
so that that would be like what the zap is.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Then yeah, that's that's what I feel like.

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
Oh, gosh, I've never even thought, you know, I don't
know why I never put that together, Like I never
really thought about them. Like the zapp is like a
dose of radiation.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
As you get you get zapped with certain types of radiation,
you get gamma rays. It's gonna go through you like
a bullet.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Oh no, see, that's why it's what what we do
out there in the field is not safe. It's really
not We've always we've been preaching that for a while.
And uh, and I actually okay, the whole team has
had to get together, especially since Bob has passed away,
in our Tim passed away, We've had to have some
serious talks about whether we want to keep doing our
field research as a team together because it's so dangerous.

(01:57:08):
We don't and and I'm not not to get personal
or to disclose anything about anything personal about the team,
but there are other people on the team who have
gotten sick and gotten like cancerous things going on with
their bodies since we've been doing some of this research,
especially out towards that meadow that we researched where Bob
and Tim you know, got is that but in that portal.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Okay, So I would definitely consider that, because I've seen
enough already to make to make me, make me believe
it's possibly unsafe. It's not just because you're following them,
but because they can get you at a distance. You know, Yeah,

(01:57:55):
are these these these bigfoot that put their hands on cars,
put their hands on windows now, have this buttery looking oil? Yeah? Yeah,
I wouldn't get close to that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
You wouldn't touch it. No, Okay, well you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
Had a lid, a lid glove or something or lid
suit man.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
You know what, Well, this is important because we have
a lot of big foot field researchers in the chat
right now, and a lot of people who are going
to be who deal with this kind of stuff and
h and listen. It's like vasoline, like when you get
that greet those greasy prints like flat our friend flat Rock,
he had a piece of his back porch or had
a greasy print and he actually cut that two by

(01:58:43):
four out or whatever whatever kind of would that was,
and he wrapped he wrapped sirene wrap around it. Okay,
so that's good, but it's so oily, it's so thick,
it's like it's like vasoline basically right there. So so
y'all Please don't touch that, y'all. Okay, don't touch it.
Take pictures of it if you want, but stay away

(01:59:04):
from it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
Yeah, it would just be the better part of of
of caution.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
You know, I wouldn't take the chance because you can't.
You can't undo what that stuff does to you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Yeah. Hey, it's better to be safe than sorry. Okay,
it is. And uh man, this is a this is
some really good information tonight, Okay. And uh and I
know that this might could save a life or two.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Well at least at least uh extend.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
Your life, Yes, at least I know, right, I need
to extend it as long as we can.

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
But uh but yeah, we've we've literally we've we've had
to have some serious sit down discussions about whether we
want to continue doing our research out in the field
because it is and it's hazardous to our health in
our lives.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
You know of somebody that that has had an encounter
and their their suffering physically from it, mentioned that to
them as a possibility, you know, because that may be
some treatment or something. You know, there's uh, I think
I think you can take I dine and it helps, uh,

(02:00:23):
that type of poisoning you know, radiation poisoning.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Mm hm, yes, I listen. Actually, Bob always taught us that,
of all people, Uh, Bob actually has some of Bob's
iodine pills. I think that. Uh after after he passed away,
his wife had us come over and get a lot
of his stuff, like his camping gear, and I was
had a lot of survival stuff and I ended up

(02:00:46):
with like five camping toilets at my garage. I've got
all of Bob's camping toilets, by the way, and uh
and uh, iodiine pills and stuff, So that is something
important to have.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Yeah, yeah, just uh it's just the way that that
type of stuff is handled with in the past, you know,
with the different accidents, and they used to test nuclear
weapons and stuff above ground. Uh, they take iddyne pills

(02:01:18):
a thyroid you can get thyroid problems from.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
It, Nathan says potassium. I had ied. Yes, I have
a bunch of those pills actually all over, but I
haven't haven't taken any yet. But if we need them,
we got them. Okay, it's good to have that in
your bug out bag, y'all. Okay, And man, MK, I
got to tell you this has been a wonderful show tonight,

(02:01:41):
and I really do appreciate you being.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
Here perfect thank you for having me on.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
Of course, this is I've learned a lot tonight and
H and I just want to again, I want to
thank you for all the research that you do and
for really moving us forward as far as our conscious
I'm going to say, as far as our consciousness goes
the collective consciousness of everybody on this planet, everybody that's
watched your videos and and has benefited from your research.

(02:02:08):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:09):
All right, thank you?

Speaker 1 (02:02:13):
Well, of course, well whoa absolutely in my throat? Okay, Well,
do you have any final thoughts tonight? I mean, this
has been thoroughly enjoyable tonight, and I know it's been
a little dark, okay when it comes to the Patty stuff,
but we need the world needs to know this stuff.
But do you have any final thoughts tonight? On a

(02:02:34):
on the Patty film and wherever you're reaching.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
There's there's just been more interaction between people and Bigfoot,
and people realize, you know, uh, it's it's not it's
not a myth, you know, it's it's it's you know,
it's a real, factual, living thing. So you encounter one,

(02:03:03):
you expect that something the unknown is just great. We
don't know nearly what we need to know, but I've learned.
I'm picking up on it. Yeah, watch out, watch out
for your health.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
Yeah, I say the same thing. Everybody. Please be safe
out there, and and if you take anything away from
the show tonight, just please take precaution if you're out
there searching for bigfoot, and and if you find any
kind of handprints or anything, just know there is a
danger behind all of it. And it's not only like
a safety thing like you got to worry about all

(02:03:48):
the things out in the woods. I mean, I'm the
kind of girl that takes all the precautions. I protect
myself very fully, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
I think that people have suspected it. Uh. They said, well,
I think something zapp me. You know. Well somebody that
don't believe that that said, well, there he goes again
with that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
But I've been zapped.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
Yeah. If people that have been zapped, they are very
serious about it. Uh. It's whatever that was that he's
at you with. I think that a lot of different
ideas some people say infrasound. I'm more inclined to think radiation.

Speaker 1 (02:04:32):
Yeah, well that takes a deep dark turn right there. Yes,
I mean, it's it's all fun and games until you
get real sick. Okay. And uh and and I got
to say it is it is kind of becoming more
common for people that I'm out there doing my research
with to get some sort of some form of sickness,

(02:04:52):
like even skin cancer. I'm just gonna put that out there,
even skin cancer, heart problems all that. And uh and
and I know we've been out there doing this for
decades now, okay, but I don't know. Just y'all, y'all
please be careful, Okay, everybody, just be careful and be aware,
and like I said, just take precaution. So yeah, mkay,

(02:05:15):
I hope you will come back and hang out with
me again. Sometimes this has been a lot of fun.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:20):
Okay for sure. Well, tell everybody where they can find you, like,
tell us everybody about your your YouTube channel and your
website and all that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:28):
All right. My YouTube channel is GreenWave two and ten
FB and uh that's an old football site that I
converted to Bayfoot. And another one is the Davis Report
dot WordPress dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
Yes, a lot of great information on both of those, y'all.
UH and so y'all please go over and check out
the Davis Report dot WordPress dot com and UH and
and all the information you could ever ever want and
more about the Patty film and UH in GreenWave twenty
ten FB on YouTube. So yes, y'all go subscribe right

(02:06:10):
now if you hadn't already. And UH and MK thank
you so much. Gosh, this has been a treat tonight,
And like I said, I hope you'll come back and
hang out with me again. And I before we go tonight,
I want to thank all of my all the people
who gave memberships tonight during the show, Thank you Stargazer,
I appreciate that. And UH and Jackie, thank you for

(02:06:30):
gifting five Crypti Hunters memberships. Y'all you can join the
Hunt Club too if y'all want. Thank you so much
for that. And Kent Baxter, you are so sweet, he said,
I missed you lately. All good. All is good now,
Thank you Kent for being here, and Margaret, thank you
so much for that supersticker as well research money. Thank you.
I got always use some research money, so thank you

(02:06:51):
for that, and UH and so thank you so much. MK.
You guys have a wonderful night. I hope y'all learn something. Yeah, y'all,
don't live in fear, y'all. Okay, live in awareness. Keep
your head on a swivel. We are living in crazy
times right now, but don't ever be scared. Don't stop researching, Okay,
just be very careful and don't touch the greasy spots. Okay,

(02:07:15):
don't touch the greasy handprints. Okay. All right, k y'all,
have a great night, and I'll see y'all back here
on Monday. We have Wendell Moseley of Wendell Bigfoot nine
one one coming on Monday. I have a full plate
next week of magnificent guests. We have Mark Greene coming
on on Wednesday, and it's gonna be fun, all right, y'all,
All right, okay, have a great night y'all, and I

(02:07:38):
will see you guys back here on Monday. All right.
I y'all thanks them, kays.

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