The Real War Lab From 'The Island of Dr. Moreau' with Jimmy Paine

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Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, good evening, everybody. It's the Cryfted Huntress and man,
do I have a great show for y'all tonight. We
have my very good friend Jimmy Paine here in the
studio tonight, and we also have a special co host tonight.
We have Melissa Downard here with us as well. And
you guys will remember Melissa from the last time we

(01:18):
had we had Jimmy on, James Reik joined us and
Melissa was with James, So you guys will remember Melissa
from that show about where Wolves at Area fifty one,
And tonight we are discussing the real war lab, as
Jimmy calls it, based on off the movie. Okay, sometimes

(01:40):
these movies are based on real stuff, y'all. But the
Island of Doctor Moreau, Okay, the nineteen nineties version of
that movie. Jimmy has some first hand knowledge of this,
and we're gonna hear all about it tonight. We're even
gonna get a history lesson on Vietnam as well, before
we get into the labs where they were conducting experiments

(02:02):
and creating human animal hybrids. All right, something that we
have suspected is still going on to this day, and
it might actually connect some dots tonight. We are in
the We are really good at connecting dots, and Jimmy's
going to help us with that tonight, with a lot

(02:23):
of history behind where it all started and where it's going.
So y'all buckle up, get your popcorn tonight. We're in
for a wonderful treat. And I don't want to thank
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(02:45):
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and all right, let's get to our show because we
have so much to talk about tonight. This My show
might go kind of long tonight, but we'll see. Okay.
So former MiB Jimmy pen is joining us tonight to
discuss the real Vietnam era war Lab of Doctor Moreau,

(03:53):
as represented in the nineteen ninety six film adaptation The
Island of Doctor Moreau, directed by John Frankenheimer. It's a
movie based off Hgul's eighteen ninety six novel. The film
involves genetic experimentation of human animal hybrids. According to Jimmy,

(04:14):
the character of Edward Douglas, if you guys have seen this,
is based on his real life experience at the war
lab of Doctor Moreau, a scientist conducting experiments on animals
to create animal human hybrids referred to as the beast Folk.
Moreau was working to create a higher being by injecting
human DNA into animals. The hybrids struggled with their animal

(04:39):
instincts and the laws imposed by Moreau, and ultimately rebelled
against him. In The Scientists on That Island, the movie
showcase showcases dogmen, feline humanoids, hyena human hybrids, pig human hybrids,
and more. Now, Jimmy is going to discuss this plus

(05:00):
the Lynx to Area fifty one and the Super Soldier programs,
which are likely still in operation today as you know.
Now for those of you who have not met Jimmy yet,
Super Soldier Agent Jimmy Paine aka Dallas was in the
Secret Space Program from nineteen fifty nine to nineteen ninety six.

(05:22):
During this short time, he was a shuttlecraft pilot for
the Tall White Warriors at Area fifty one, participated in
time travel missions with the Montauk Boys at Camp Hero.
He also recalls working for the Wayland Corporation, where he
encountered a xenomorph at LV four two six, which the
movie Aliens was based off of. He was stationed on
Mars Titan the Moon on Mars. He's seen the broken

(05:46):
statue of a giant face of a humanoid on a
mission in nineteen seventy four along with duncan Opinian, and
he remember seeing Tommy Knockers in the cave on Mars,
which looked like tall grays. On the Moon, he was
stationed at a massive underground base. He was tasked with
fighting a monster they called it, which looked like Junior
the Montauk Monster, a type of Bigfoot that would gain

(06:09):
strength by attacking it. He's he was on a secret
mission from Vanderberg Air Force Base, the lunar Apollo twenty
mission with William Rutledge, where they discovered I think that's
called what was that in the ebe Mona Lisa right
and and Jimmy says that the Apollo twenty footage is
real what you see on YouTube, you guys. First of all,

(06:31):
I want to introduce uh Melissa Downer tonight. She is
gonna be one of She's gonna be my co host. Actually, hey,
Melissa is with true Beings of Light, intuitive healing. Hey Melissa,
it's so.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Good to see. Yes, nice to see again. Happy New Years,
Thank you, Happy New Year to you as well. I
mean coming out. Yes, joysome, this is great. This is
gonna be so much fun.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Oh yeah, well, we enjoyed having you here when we
had Jimmy and James Rink on the last time in
Rest and Piece to our good friend James Drink, And
we enjoyed having you here for the last show.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
That was so much fun. That was Halloween Eve. Actually
then we did some he was looking up some funny skits.
That was so much fun. It was most skits tonight.
Now just I'm just gonna listen, participate, maybe ask some cars.
This is this is very fascinating, the whole concept, you know,
getting to know you, Jimmy Moore now learning about this stuff.
I just have fascinating ready stories and seeing pictures of
the you know, the the humanoids with the animal heads,

(07:28):
the dogheads and and things like that.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Oh yeah, it's what I love. This is this is
right up my alley because I like to get out
and look for these things in the woods. Melissa, Okay,
you got to take me out there with you one day. Okay,
let me know. Okay, Well I'll take it. We'll plan
plan it, Okay, we will. Okay, Well, let's let's introduce
our good friend it might be Jimmy Payne tonight. He

(07:52):
really needs no introduction because Jimmy has been here before
plenty of times. Welcome to the show, mister Jimmy Payne. Hey, Jimmy,
Hey there, thank you for being here.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Nice being back.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Hello Jimmy, Hey, Hey Jimmy. Well, we're going to be
talking about the island of Doctor Moreau tonight. I heard
you might have some information for us.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, I think the best way to approach this subject
being that this is Jane. We're the first twenty twenty
six and it's like fifty one years since the Vietnam

(08:38):
War has closed. So I don't have any I don't
have the mi IV file in front of me of
this X foul case. So I'm just gonna go by memory,
and I'm going to be talking about the mechanics of
the war, how the war started, how we got over there,

(09:03):
and that we still have one thousand and five hundred
and seventy one soldiers that never came home. They're still missing.
So tonight I want you all to think about the
am I as while we're doing the show on Dr Moreau. Here, Okay,

(09:30):
I'm gonna go back. You need to know a little
history of South East Asia, how this conflict started up,
and how we got involved in it. Because to find
a war lab, you have to go to a war.
The more you know about the war, then the war

(09:53):
lab slides into it. And it doesn't just have to
be the Vietnam War. It could any war, such as
the Ukraine War, any type of war in the world.
So that's why we're going to cover the history of
the war tonight. Now, in nineteen forty six, World War

(10:21):
two has come to a close, and the French had
Vietnam and Cambodia, all that is basically old French colonies.

(10:42):
And when France pulled out of Southeast Asia to fight
the Germans, it left all that open and the Japanese
went in there and they stayed there for you know,
during the Second World War. But after the Second World
War was over, the French wanted back in now, so

(11:09):
they ended up the French ended up having a low
intensity conflict war with the rebels there, and so the
French was in there fighting the Vitmanes from i know,
December nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty four, so you

(11:35):
have the Vitmanes in there. Now, the Vitmanes suffered one
hundred and twenty thousand casualties. One hundred and twenty thousand
soldiers of French descent died or went missing in Vietnam.

(11:56):
But back in the study, when President Truman was in office,
he was he didn't want to see communism spread. Okay,
we pretty much had everything in check. The United States
did in uh in Berlin, you know, petitioning off the

(12:20):
city to stop the Communists from taking over Europe. But
but Southeast Asia was a different problem. So present Truman
appropriated funds uh to the French, the French government, you know,
if they needed to buy a war equipment, he uh,

(12:47):
he funneled money to support them. Uh. And he also
had advisors that so the Americans had advisors over in Vietnam.
At least I know there were American advisors in Vietnam

(13:07):
in nineteen fifty four. There wasn't that many, but we
had American visors in Vietnam in nineteen fifty four. Now,
what happened was in nineteen fifty nine, Saigan or what

(13:33):
we now know is Hochi Minh City was attacked by
the Vietnamese and four I believe it was four American
visors were killed. Okay when that happened, you know John F.
Kennedy became president in nineteen sixty, He ran nineteen fifty nine,

(13:58):
but he took office in nine, eighteen sixty. Well, as
soon as he took office, John F. Kennedy, I think
it might have been around about two hundred advisers he
put over there. So we went from like four of
you know, about six or seven advisors to around about

(14:22):
two hundred advisors on the ground. And what they were doing,
they were, you know, feeding information back to Washington. Well,
you could come around to the guph of Tonkin Instant

(14:46):
and they had the worship of USS Maddocks was off
the coast of Vietnam in nineteen sixty four, and they
had they actually the log books of the officer on

(15:08):
board the USS Mattos. Uh. They lied and they shelled
the coastal the coastal area. They claimed that they were uh,
they were attacked. They weren't attacked. Well, they were doing
They shelled the coastal area, and the vitmanse got to

(15:33):
chasing the North m got to chasing a South Vitman
patrol boat and the two boats got out by the
USS mattocks and the North Vitmanese patrol boat launched a
torpedo okay from the patrol boat, and it struck the

(15:57):
mattocks and it knocked about a forty foot went the
side of the ship. Okay, Well when that happened, we
started we started getting real, real involved in the war. Okay.

(16:20):
Now you have to remember John F. Kennedy was killed
in Dallas in nineteen sixty three. So by this time
President Johnson is the president. So at about ten thirty
one night, the broadcast your rectory TV shows were interrupted

(16:42):
and President Johnson got on TV and he said that
we had been attacked and that we were, you know,
going to a you we will return fire. He was
no find the country that the United States had been attacked. Well,

(17:04):
what happened then was instead of those two hundred advisors,
it went up to around about about eight hundred advisors,
and we were already in Vietnam, you know, after John F.

(17:25):
Kennedy got killed. But we weren't fighting. We were just
you know, in there observing the government. So the Gulph
of Tonkin instant is what got us into the war.
Now you need to know what the Vietnam was like,

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we have a country that has no electricity in it.
Whatever electricity they had was by generators, and there was
and the only buildings that were there were worth what
the French built. They did have a railroad at the
French uh constructed in there, so there was a railroad.

(18:15):
There were no paved roads in the entire country. No
paved roads. Now, when General Westmoreland landed troops in Vietnam,
he built Highway one. This is a coin. This is

(18:38):
a road that runs from Damn near from the dmz
z on all the way to the as far south
as runs a good little ways. That's what they call
thunder Thunder road. And the theory was was that he
was going to put the equipment on it, tanks and

(19:00):
in artillery equipment, that he was just going to show
up and down this highway in fight this war. The
problem was was that when you got a tank off
the road into the soil, it sunk. See Vietnam is
the ground is real soft. Now we're going to now

(19:22):
talk about hydraulics. The river system. All the water in
China from the great snow capped Mountains of China to
be all that has to drain, water's going to drain
to the lowest point of resistance. Okay, so all the

(19:45):
water out of Japan drained down into the Vietnam. Now
Vietnam has I want to say, it has five thousand,
seven hundred miles of streams. If you took all the

(20:06):
creeks and the rivers and the little streams, you have
five thousand, seven hundred miles of nothing but streams. And
the whole country is jungle. Okay, it's real, heavily jungled.
So they have a need. The only way you can

(20:27):
really fight that is to get a patrol boat, a
PBR patrol boat river to run these canals. Now that's
what I did in Vietnam. I did. I was basically
I was a courier. I'm a scout. See, I'm too
young to fight in Vietnam. But Cambodia and Lyles we're

(20:52):
not at war, and Cambodia loos. But as a scout, hey,
I can go in those countries. Now Vietnam. The first
lady of Vietnam, she got with the agricultural administer and

(21:13):
she would go around to the different villages and they wanted,
they wanted to have to prepare their young boys to
one day become soldiers. So they introduced they copied the

(21:35):
Boy Scouts of America. What they had was the Boy
Scouts of Vietnam. These little boys were age about seven
years old up to about seventeen. Now eighteen, you're required

(21:55):
to join the Vietnam Army, the South Vietnam Army. H
So Clark Air Force Base over in the Philippines had
Boy Scouts of America. Well, they wanted to know, well, look,
why don't we get some of our boy Scouts from

(22:15):
Clark Clark Air Force Base and send them over to Vietnam,
you know, and kind of like an exchange students. You
know what I mean, You know what a exchange student is.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yes, we used to have at my house, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, well that's what I was. Kind of like an
exchange student. Now I can remember. They would take cracker jacks,
you know, cracker jacks. You get a prize in a
box caramel candy. They had to bring in by the
paltloads and so. But in in everybody, every box of

(23:03):
cracker jacks, you get a prize. Now in those crackerjack
boxes was a compass and a whistle. Now you need
a whistle because you need to signal somebody and you
need a compass to navigate. So I had a good

(23:26):
friend old there, Kim Lee. He lived he lived in Kayson,
So I grew up. I grew up, you know, in
lys and uh coming over to Kayson, you know, with
my friend Kim Lee. And he was a boy scout,
and I was a boy scout. I'm an American boy scout.

(23:47):
He's a Dipmenese boy scout. But you know, I was
a courier because when I was like about six years old,
I'd go over to the Palace of South Vietnam, the
first Lady of South Vietnam, and we go in there.

(24:07):
I have bring my coloring book. I'm six years old.
And they had crayons, and they had these crayons that
were that were numbered and you and you take and
you take your coloring book. Had it had pictures in there,
and you had to and it had numbers on the pictures.
So if the if the if the grass is green,

(24:28):
you get the number two green crayon and you put
and you and you you know, you you color the
number two uh part of the picture and then like
number three would be blue. So you take take number
three and you you know color the sky blue. That

(24:49):
was a enigma. It's it's numbers. So I would you know,
I use my coloring book as a Enigma machine, a
coated message. Now I did this for about two years,
carrying messages from the Palace of South Vietnam to the
Palace of Loss, and then I would double back to

(25:14):
the White House and have the meet up with President
Johnson and me and President Johnson, we would have a
big jar of Oreo cookies and I would eat my
Oreo and he'd eat his Oreo. And they would take
my coloring book and they would open safe up and

(25:35):
they would get the codes out and look at the
the codes in in in the in the coloring book,
and that would you know atone where where the longitude
or latitude of the enemy was at.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
You know you were a spy back when you were
a kid. Jimmy, Well, I wouldn't say a spot.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I'm just so young. I'm just m I beef.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
You were intel.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I was in jail.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Intel that's a better word.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
So I started off at six years old carrying messages.
I'm a little diplomatic couriers. See, So the thing is
at area fifty one. We didn't know this, General Westmoreland.
One thing we know is that when airplane lands, we

(26:28):
have body bags unload. So the resistance, the war resistance
did not start in the streets of America. It started
at Nellis Air Force Base and Holomon Air Force Base
because when they saw those young boys coming home in
those body bags being unloaded off those planes, it hit.

(26:52):
It made the people at the base very sad to
see that young boys were being killed for useless war. War.
So I can remember the Joint chiefs of Staff saying, oh,
we lost the war because the them kids, those kids, uh,

(27:16):
they keep bypassing us. I didn't do anything. They lost
the war because they didn't know how to fight the war.
But I knew how to go around the Joint chiefs
of Staff. I knew, I knew how to Uh I
had I had. We were taken out enemy faster than

(27:38):
the Joint chiefs of Staff were. No. The the coloring
book that I had as a child kept many people
alive because when the Joint chiese staff, by the time
they the mission came down that the enemy knew it.
The enemy knew it, so they but the enemy didn't know.

(28:01):
But I was, you know, running around for a coloring
book with longitudes and latitudes in there of the targets. Now,
I'm going to go on now because I've covered that,
and we've covered the part about the river system that
it would flood. In Vietnam, it flood real bad and

(28:26):
there was trees everywhere. Now, there's some other things we're
going to talk about before we go into Doctor Moreau. Here. Okay,
Now in Vietnam, in Vietnam, you have malaria, you have

(28:52):
dingy fever, you have poisonous snakes, you have leeches in
the water. Now and hot. As much as forty percent
of the South Fitmanese army got malarial. We don't know
how many of the Fifth com got malarial. We don't

(29:15):
know how many North fit Mainese got malary. We can
only go by the statistics on the South Manese Army
that as many as forty percent had malaria. So when
you have malaria, you know you can't fight. You know
you're burned up with fever, and malaria can kill you.

(29:37):
Just look at the Panama Canal. How many French died
trying to build a Panama Canal. So when the when
the American troops went in, we're subject to malaria. Now,
it wasn't as bad with the American soldiers. It was

(29:57):
only twenty percent of a American soldiers got malaria compared
to forty percent of the South Man these soldiers. Now
two thirds of the population of Vietnam. South Vietnam lived

(30:21):
by the Mecan River. Two thirds of the population lived
by the Mecan River. And all the fickal matter, millions
of people fickal matter. There was no drunk there was
no sewer systems over there, so all the fecal matter
and that, and and also you had the animals, the

(30:45):
water buffalo. All that fecal matter got into the water.
So you had you know, skin uh infections, you know,
getting on the skin. You had open sores on your skin.
We had leeches on us. Okay, now we're gonna go

(31:08):
into about the year nineteen seventy one, I think, and
I'm coming from Loos. I was up in lys up
there at Lima eighty one. You may know that is Apocalypse.

(31:30):
Now you know where Marlon Brando played Colonel Kurtz. I
knew Marlon Brando personally, so he did one of my
movies Apocalypse. Now, I was known as Lands on the

(31:50):
patrol boat that the hippie Okay, but we're not talking
about apocalypse now. But when we get down, when we
get down to South Vietnam, it's all marsh down there.

(32:12):
It's it's it's real muddy, and there is covered none
of the timber has been harvested. Okay, Well, these pt boats,
patrol boat rivers PBRs, they get shot up a lot.
They also because of all the mud and the drift

(32:35):
wood floating in the rivers, it messes up the impellers
of these ships, these vessels, so you had to have
a place to repair them. Now, the most isolated base
in Vietnam was a base called Entron. It's a thousand
miles from Saigon and it is very very close to Cambodia.

(33:03):
In fact, I could I've actually stepped over into Vietnam.
There's you know, I'm right on the border there. But
if you go out of the on the south coast
of Vietnam, you know, several miles out you come to Antron. Okay,

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Now we're going to go to the year now, nineteen
seventy three. Now, in nineteen seventy three, the Paris Piece
of Cords are going on and the North Vietnam and

(33:50):
the United States have set down in Paris and they're saying, well,
we're gonna hold elections in Vietnam, but we have to
get all the troops out of Vietnam. That meant that
the North fit Manese couldn't be in there, nor could
the Americans be in there. So we go from over

(34:14):
five hundred and sixty three thousand I believe of US
troops being withdrawn from Vietnam. Now all the troops are
out except fifty soldiers. Now ten of those fifty soldiers

(34:38):
were Marines. They stayed they guarded the embassy in South Vietnam.
So you had you had ten soldiers. They had guns,
and they could only stay inside the embassy the grounds
of the embassy. They can't go beyond the fens of

(34:59):
the embassy. Good they're there to guard the embassy. So
we only have ten soldiers that has rifles inside the compound.
Outside the compound, we have forty soldiers in there. They
don't have rifles, but they're they're there because if they're there,

(35:27):
as they're they're they're kind of like an attache office. Okay,
if if the government of South Vietnam needs something from
the United states. They can go in there, submit their paperwork.
Say you see they need supplies. Okay, of course they

(35:48):
didn't need supplies because we filled up the warehouses before
we pulled out. But say they need some medicine or something.
They can go in there, turn their paperwork in uh
and uh to the to the to the to the
officers inside that attache office and get what they need. Now,

(36:16):
at about that time this was going on, we're starting
to get suspicious. We think the North fit Mainese are
not honoring the agreement. Okay, we think we think there
still might be sneaking around in the jungle. All right,

(36:36):
so we can't send any soldiers back in there, because
it'll be, you know, breaking the peace of cord. Well
here i am, I'm a scout, I'm I just turned
sixteen years old, and I'm exchange student. You know, I'm paramilitary.

(37:01):
So mhm, I'm sent. I was, I was, I was
sent to a tron I need. I'd been to the
base before. And when the US Navy pulled out, they
left it in charge of the South Manse Navy. So

(37:24):
the South vian These Navy is down there, and all
the Americans are have left out of and tron except one,
and that's me, all right. So I'm seeing traffic in
the waterways there, I'm seeing boats. I believe they're smuggling weapons,

(37:50):
all right, So I gotta go in. I gotta I
gotta find out if they're breaking the the root of
the piece of cord. I need to get evidence. So
I got I got the south of them, and these

(38:15):
navy to you know, drop me off, you know, and
I'm gonna go by foot into the canal system. Now,
not only do you have five thousand, seven hundred miles
of natural streams in Vietnam, you also have handug canals

(38:39):
that's too small for a PBR to get into. And
there's over two thousand and three hundred of them that
we knew of. So you have two thousand, three hundred
handug canals. They're not very wide. You can't get a
boat in there, but you can get a canoe in
there along with you know, the natural streams. So I

(39:04):
went ahead and went on up in there, you know,
went landed on the southern tip of Vietnam. I'm very
close to Cambodian border, and got in there and I'm
I'm seeing tracks, so I'm pretty sure I'm seeing discarded cases,

(39:24):
wooden cases. I know that they had guns in the
wooden cases, but I hadn't really caught them yet, you know.
So I go on up maybe about ten twelve miles.
I'm on foot. I'm on foot, and it's very swampy,

(39:48):
and I'm running low on my anti malaria appeals. Okay,
now that part the very south that next to Cambodia,
the highest concentration of malaria in the world, is right there.

(40:09):
It had it had the Panama Canal. As many people
got ill built in the Panama Canal, it's nothing compared
to the cases in that area down there, next to Cambodia.
It's heavily infested with malaria. So when I got in there,

(40:30):
I'm running real low on my anti malaria appeals. But
you know, when you're you're young, you know, you think
you're you know, you're tough, you're hard hited, and I
don't want to turn back. I want to keep pushing on,
you know. So I ain't it up making contact. And

(40:53):
there was a firefight in there, and when I got
ready to to, you know, search the bodies, I thought
they had malaria pills, anti malary pills on them because
you know, they wouldn't be in there either without anti
malary pills. Guess what they had rent out of anti

(41:15):
malary pills like me. So yeah, yeah, so I didn't
you know, by the time that I made it back out,
I'm starting to get sick. I'm running a fever and
I'm burning up with fever, you know. So by the

(41:37):
time that I did make it out that area, there's
you know a lot of junk boats up in that area,
you know, junks we call them. And that's a heavy
drug trade. That's where your pirates come from. There are pirates.

(41:59):
When we think of rates, you think of Somaya pires, Well,
there are pirates in the waterways down there, and uh
there are also mercenaries that you know, run up and
down there as well, you know. So I run across

(42:22):
two merks, two mercenaries, you know, and they know that
I've got malaria, and they say, well, look, we know
whether we know where there's a doctor, and the doctor

(42:42):
is about well, the nearest doctor other than him is
three hundred and fifty miles. I'm not gonna make it
three hundred and fifty miles, so I've got to get
to his doctor. The one that they're talking about. So
I get with them and I'm in a uh, you know,

(43:06):
a little vessel, and they get to fighting in the vessel,
and I'm thinking, what happened was they uh, they didn't
want to go back to the island. They were they
were Moro's technicians, Okay, Doctor Moreau's technicians. And when they

(43:30):
were fighting, I took the boat paddle and you know,
knock knock, knock knock, knocked them over. You know, shark
got them. But I floated for a couple of days.
The tide the winds blew me out real far, Okay,

(43:50):
I have, like I said, I'm I'm real disoriented. I'm
I'm dehydrated. I'm in now at consciousness. And a junk
pulled up next to me, you know. And I was
in the Sea of Thailand, and that's where I met Montgomery.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
This is where the movie starts, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
This is where the movie starts.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
For anyone who has watched this movie, I hope you've
all watched it. The Island of Doctor Moreau with Val Kilmer, Okay,
the nineteen eighties version. This is where the movie starts.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Now, when I woke up, I'm in a car. I'm
in the bottom of a ship and Montgomery's in there,
and you know, I've got an ivy hooked up to me,
and yeah, I'm very dehydrated, and I hear him talking.

(44:57):
But I woke up when he was talking, and apparently
he had a radio there. He just hid it from me,
you know. But he told me said, well, yeah, in
a day or two, they were going to be at

(45:19):
a location and that he's gonna get off and then
and that they had they were going to send me
on further to my location where I can get you know,
a regular doctor. Now, Montgomery, I asked him. I said, well,
you know, he had medical supplies. He said, well, he

(45:42):
was sort of a doctor.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
But.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
He's really a neural uh neurologist, you know. Uh, that's
what that's what he specialized in, is is neurology.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Now, Jimmy, I want to I want to let the
audience know Montgomery is the kilmer character in this movie.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but I ain't up going with him
because he didn't think he didn't trust the pilot the pirates.
I mean, you know, but when I got to the island,

(46:24):
you know, we he unloaded the rabbits and we went
to where the cages were at. Now, these rabbits were
experimental rabbits. I didn't understand it at the time. I
just thought, you know, that's just what they eat. But

(46:44):
they were using the rabbits uh for experiments. And but
he killed one of the rabbits when we had the
cage open. And I'm thinking that when he killed the rabbit, Lomar,
which is a cheatah part human part Cheetah was in

(47:09):
was in the the tall grass watching us. But when
he had and took me to the main compound and
Uh I walked in, I'm seeing certificates on the wall,

(47:30):
and those were doctor Moreau's UH certificates. And he tells
me doctor Moreau UH invented bell crow, but he did
help develop it, but he was cheated out of his
Nobel prize the other chemist in their turn on him.

(47:57):
But he actually invented bell crow, but he's not giving
credit for it. The other three signists were given credit.
This happened many many years when he was a young man,
about you know, about eleven or twelve years earlier. And
so Montgomery locked me in the room and I eventually

(48:25):
got out of the room, you know, and and that
night when I was, you know, looking around the compound,
I'm trying to figure out why he locked me in
the room, you know, he said it was for my
own good. And I walked in on open one of
the sheds. I heard some noise and went in there,

(48:46):
and I'm seeing a lima apart female Himan and part
loma hybrid giving birth. And I, you know, immediately, you know,
got out of there, you know. And and I met

(49:07):
doctor Rose. I had met Docman Rose daughter earlier that day,
and she told me, she said that, she told me,
she said that if I wanted off island, I had
to go with her. And uh so she took me

(49:28):
to see Sayer of the Law. Now this is another
hybrid human. That's he's he's part Ram. He's got the
horns of a ram and Sayer of the Law. Uh
he's blind. I met him and I also met well,

(49:56):
right before I met him, I met I met uh
another I'm trying to think of his name. He's he's
a bad boon. I don't think of his name for
a second there just one moment, what I think, Yeah,

(50:24):
I met like a bad boom there and and then
he had five fingers and they call he put his
fingers over my fingers and apparently if you have five fingers,
you know, you're considered human. And that's uh, that's how

(50:50):
I met the Bad Boom. Okay, but it was, like
I said, I would say, at least I went down
into the underground bunker where Sarah the Law was at.
I asked, himate maybe two hundred and fifty hybrid humans

(51:13):
that I saw, and it stunk really really bad. They
they defecate on themselves. They they're just all messed up
their own drugs. Montgomery was giving them a drugs, you know,

(51:33):
to calm them down. And yeah, and Montgomery. I think
Montgomery might have been having sex with the Big Lady.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
They actually kind of referred to that in that movie.
And that was a little disturbing. Okay, he was like
kissing on the pig leadies. Okay. Yeah, and so I'm assuming,
I mean, people are sick. Okay, people are sicks. Could
be pretty gross, but that's really sad. Now, Jimmy, this
actually kind of not to interrupt you, but this kind
of reminds me of like Dulcet Bass. I mean we've

(52:10):
actually covered here on the Channel the Billy Whack dairy
and like the experiments that that OSS officer was doing
underneath the in a lab underneath that dairy back in
the nineteen twenties. Okay, they've been doing human animal hybrid
experiments for long long time.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Well, going back to do say, New Mexico, I've been
in that underground base and the scientists that are down
there are forced to work with the alien scientists. And
if you ever watched the movie A Resident Evil, well

(52:51):
that's that's based off of a true event. I've been
to Raccoon City and uh and there is a train
down underneath Douceve, New Mexico. I've been all down in there.
I was there when Thomas Costello came missing. You know,
there was a big, a big uproar when Thomas Costella

(53:16):
uh went missing. But getting back, getting back to the island,
doctor Moreau. Now, when I did meet doctor Moreau, uh,
he was being carried. He had a he was in
a chair and they had taken two poles and uh

(53:37):
attached to the chair, you know, and was carrying him
like you know, you would like an emperor, like like
you see like Egyptians carrying an emperor, you know.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
And he was their god.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Well he was their god, he was their father. And
he had on uh he was covered in white uh
lotion you know, uh you know sontan Uh you know
keeping you know, like you have.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
He's got some kind of kind of allergy that's like
sp F one hundred or something. Right.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Well, yeah, he put it on and and like I said, uh,
whoever did the movie did a real good job of it,
because Marlon Brando did a hell of a good job

(54:41):
uh imitating doctor Moreau. You know, see I advise uh
Marlon Brando on Apocalypse now you know about Colonel Kirks,
but I did not advise him on the Island doctor Moreau.
So yeah, yeah, I didn't advise him on that one.

(55:04):
But he he did a very good a very good
character portrayed of doctor Moreau. And Doctor Moreau was very
highly religious. He was a bumble a Bible thumper. You know,
he could see he could sit there and quote the Bible.

(55:26):
And how do you when you sit when I sat
down with doctor Moreau, uh in his in his home
with his servants and everything, and he steeps sit there
and quote scripture. Wow, yeah, Holly, he was highly intelligent,

(55:48):
highly intelligent.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
H Well, he had. He had to be pretty intelligent
to do. I mean the things that he did were
kind of sick, right, making these hybrid experiments. I mean,
how did this scientist end up there on this island
first of all doing these experiments? Was he part of
the government, was this part of Area fifty one? Was

(56:12):
this private like a privatized doctor and he was just
doing his own thing?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Well, let me tell you what I've I know some
information about him, but it's very limited. Now. You have
to remember when I came to Area fifty one, I
was only like six six years old. Okay, Now, about

(56:40):
the time that I came to Area fifty one, I
think he got some kind of trouble and he left
Area fifty one. He got in some kind of trouble.
And when I talked to Montgomery, they said Montgomery told
me that he got rant. He got he got ran

(57:01):
out of the States because the animal rights people, you know,
because you know, he couldn't he couldn't cage a rat
without reading the rats rights. Yeah. Well, I don't know
if if it was that organization, but it was probably,
you know, some type of animal rights organization.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
You know, probably human rights organizations too. Jimmy, I would think.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
So it's illegal. Uh. I mean, there's international agreements with
United Nations. You can't do that kind of kind of research. Now. Interestingly,
uh going back on our last show, we did about
the wherewolves being able to withstand the radiation of you know,

(57:51):
the uh van Allen radiation bell. So maybe he was,
you know, getting some type of money to try to make,
you know, some type of a super soldier. And another
thing is that if you can enhance a soldier like Lomar,

(58:14):
you know, like the cheetah, you know, Lomar can run
very quick on all four and climb a tree and everything.
So I do know that they, like the Chinese, like
you know, they're trying to uh tinker with the DNA

(58:38):
of their soldiers to make them super soldiers. But I'm
thinking in the back of my mind that, yeah, doctrorm
Monroe's formal UH area fifty one. But he was run
he was run off back in the early sixties when

(59:00):
I was a child. But he he was using my blood.
He was trying to give it to his daughter to
keep her from regressing. Because when I went into the lab,
all the paperwork was scattered. Montgomery had destroyed the serm,

(59:24):
you know. And Montgomery, you know, of course he was
he was a dope hit. I mean, you know, I
met a lot of guys in Vietnam it was on dope.
But Montgomery was way out there, you know. And you
know here in the end, you know, he was shot

(59:47):
by the US, by the butler. You know. But you know,
can you imagine two hundred and fifty or so hybrid
human and they're coming off their drugs and their hor
hormones all mixed up, and they they get a hold

(01:00:08):
the armory where their weapons are stored, and they arm themselves.
I mean, they were very dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah, that's next level actually as a matter of fact,
So in the in the movie, because Jimmy and I
got to watch that movie together the other night. That
was fun. And uh, but they actually show the hyena man, who,
by the way, I just want to let the audience
probably knows this because they've watched my Show's probably a
lot of a lot of regulars in a here tonight,
I hope. And uh, and we know about the hyena

(01:00:40):
type dogmen as we call them, and uh, and it's
actually one of the most common commonly reported types of dogmen.
There's all sorts of different types of dogmen. Now we
can't say they're dog men because hyenas are not from
the dog family. Okay, they're not kenine. But if you
look down at this chart, if the audience look down
this chart on the bottom, the canine variant two that's

(01:01:01):
been classified by the North American dog Man Project and
others as a type of dog man. But it's really
just some sort of a hybrid. We don't really know
what these things are, Okay, But but from what we're
seeing in this movie and from your testimony, Jimmy, we're
seeing in all the research we've been doing and doing
shows about. We know there's a lot of these weird

(01:01:22):
hybrid experiments going on. But these things are prevalent today today.
People are seeing those things. And it makes me wonder,
have these experiments been going on? Second? And some of
them may be natural to this earth. I don't know,
some of them may not be. And if we're dealing
with military, what's the connection here? Okay, Like, what's the

(01:01:44):
is there a connection? Is my question? I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Well, we take those underground bases, this being this being built,
you know, like I was telling you about my good
friend Phil Snyder before he was murdered. He used to
build underground basis. And we also have with the guy
that for one one that goes to the national parks

(01:02:09):
that investigate missing people. David Politis, Yeah, David, it could
be that this program has started back up or or
and that they've gone possibly to these remote uh uh
forest and you know, you may have some of these

(01:02:31):
hybrid humans that are coming out, you know, at certain
times of the night in roam in the forest and
you might be getting I'm not saying it you are.
I'm saying it may be that it's possibly that that
that might be what what people are seeing and reporting,

(01:02:53):
you know, these hybrid humans. Uh. But mhm, it's it's something,
you know. I would say the only word that what
I did with the Hyaena when they when I was

(01:03:15):
at the house when doctor Moreau was attacked, I had
just come out of my room and uh, they had
attacked him, and I took my gun. The reason I

(01:03:37):
didn't fire it because I was scared I would hit
Dtor Monroe, but he was fatally wounded.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
And.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
So I just shot a shot. I shot one round
off up in the air to scare him. Off, and
but the Hyaena grabbed the neck us. You know that
he wore around Doctor Moreau wore around his you know,
his collar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Can we can we tell the audience about this necklace,
Jimmy a little bit, because I actually meant to. I
was kind of getting I forgot, I kind of lost
track of my thoughts while ago I was going to
get into the fact that they had chips in them.
They had some sort of a device which controlled these
beasts and uh and so doctor Moreau had a necklace
with like a remote control and it was connected to

(01:04:29):
all of the different hybrid animal humans that were out there,
and he would just hit a button and it would
disable them like they it would it was like a
shot collar inside their body. Basically, Yeah, he did do that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
He pulled he was in playing out mm hm. When
Montgomery started freaking out when he realized that he had
pulled his in plan out and we both ran after
any you know, with dark guns, we could catch oh

(01:05:05):
any you know. But see when I was at Area
fifty one, we never did shot the werewolves. Okay, the
werewolves are stable. You know, there's no implants in the

(01:05:27):
werewolves other than just you know, just a bar code
and maybe, uh, if there aren't implant, it would be
just for tracking, you know what I mean. Uh, you
know that the animals were extremely dangerous. The were wolves
were much easier to work with. We never shot the

(01:05:49):
werewolves because there never was a need for it, but
he would do that to keep them under control. And
see you had Sayer of the Law and Sayer of
the Law after my room's death. Uh, it was Sarah
of the raw of the law and the bad Boon
that I got, well, you know, to get to get

(01:06:14):
things under control. But I ended up, like I said,
when the Hyaeni guy, when they got into the armory,
he got the weapons. The only way I got I
was able to get to get it under control was
because I told the Hyaeni that he had You know,

(01:06:37):
they had eaten the flesh of the father, and the
Hyaeni was obsessed with wanting to be called a god,
so I called him a guide. But I said, well, hey,
the other ones I ate the flesh as well, So
who's guy number one? You know? Well, well that that

(01:06:57):
was all that I needed because once one he realized
that could only be one god. That's when he turned
on the other ones with with the automatic weapon. Yeah,
so that's saying about you know him, uh killing other
animals and then retreating back into the buildings. Very very true.

(01:07:21):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Sarah, the law is what who
who told after I left? I think, sayah, the law
is the one that told other research is what it happened.
But everything on the island, even the rats, were genetically modified.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah the rat. That was an interesting scene, Jimmy, when
the when the character played that was your that portrays
you was trained to leave the island. I guess trying
to get on a boat. The rats prevented that. They
were they they were mutants for real.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Well, the rats had teeth, had had a canines like
a dunk. Yeah, I mean if that rat had bit me. Uh.
I mean we're talking a good inch long teeth, sharp

(01:08:23):
as as a dog. And and it jumped even though
it was a rat. I mean it it walked upright,
It could stand on its hind legs. It could it
would run on all four but it could stand up

(01:08:45):
on its hind legs like it could walk.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Do you think the rats were also chipped where they
were controlled with the remote.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
I don't know, I don't know. I know that everything
even the snakes were modified genetically modified on the island,
any animal was modified. Now, I never saw any birds.

(01:09:16):
That was unusual, I'm thinking because see, they didn't want
them to eat any kind of meat. I think the
birds were either poisoned. But you have to remember if
the bird got off the island, and let's say it
it did make it to the main land, you know,

(01:09:39):
the whole island was quarantined. No ship would would go
near the island. The island was restricted. Okay, I'm thinking
that the radio set up when I went into the
radio shack, it was so that up similar to the

(01:10:01):
radio shack that I had up and lost, you know,
so apparently they used it to report uh you know, traffic,
you know, like maybe enemy patrols and that in that

(01:10:23):
part of the ocean. You know, he was just stuck
out there, just so far out, so far off the
coast there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Jimmy, I have a question when when everything got burned
to the ground. Basically that that one featful night everything
got burned down. I mean, there were some survivors of
all of this, including the ram Man as we can
I'm gonna call him, and uh, I know in the
movie they were they were asking your character not to leave.

(01:10:56):
They wanted you to stay there, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Uh yeah they what what was the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Outcome with them with all these hybrid animals that were
in humans that were on that island.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
When when I was getting ready to leave, the bad
being uh huh, I say, I think his name was,
he didn't want me to leave. You know, he wept. Uh,
I had five fingers. You know, I'm five fingers. I'm

(01:11:28):
five finger man. He has five fingers. Yeah, five finger
guy down here, don't we Yeah, well, he didn't want
me to leave, and sayah the law When I talked
with him, yeah, I was thinking maybe some people that

(01:11:52):
area fifty one could help him, and he didn't. He
just he just told me. He said that he didn't
want nobody else, you know, poking on them anymore. You know,
he's probably been jabbed by Montgomery, you know, hyper Dirk Needles,
stuff like that. He just he just didn't want any

(01:12:14):
more of it. He said, what if if he reverted
back to all four then so bent hm hm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Jimmy, do you think that there are were are and
were other war lambs like this where there were doing
these experiments and maybe if they're that they're still in
use today.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Well, I do know about the one in do say,
New Mexico. That one I've been in. I have seen
it when I was Another lab I know of is
if you go back into the Alien movies that uh

(01:12:59):
that I did with James Rink mm hmm. I never
did cover the lab where they were cloning uh Ripley.
Ripley was cloned uh part him and I part something else.
I don't want of the creatures on my on the

(01:13:21):
alien h babies I did, but I'm thinking that the
Chinese are doing it. I'm thinking the well, I wouldn't
be surprised if I wouldn't be surprised. If the Ukrainians

(01:13:45):
are done it to win the war, I just wouldn't
be surprised. But I do think that, Yeah, I think
they're they're probably what you've seen or reports coming in
about strange creatures. It is possible that this research is

(01:14:05):
going on underground in some of these underground bases, you know,
particular in the remote areas of the country, by some
of the national parks, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Jimmy, Okay, we have discussed on my channel before where
wolves used in wartime in battle and I am curious
what your thoughts are on where wolves being used during Vietnam.
I have discussed there are some reports out there of
were wolves being used by handlers like US military. Let's

(01:14:47):
say US military, just as an example. It's just I'm
just thinking out loud, Okay, it's theoretical using were wolves
to go down into the tunnels to wipe out some
of the Vietnamese. What do you know about that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
If anything, Well, I've done that, or you know, get
a get a pistol and in a flashlight and go
down into the into the tunnel and uh, that's probably
one of the worst jobs. You can get a tunnel ramp,
you know, to go down and and shoot whoever he

(01:15:24):
is in the tunnel. It's either going to be you're him.
It's real dangerous. But this is my question to you.
You keep talking about handlers. You have to remember, if
you have a soldier trained in combat, what does he

(01:15:45):
need a handler for? If he's aware wolf, if he
if he's if he is a trained as a soldier
and he's aware wolf, what does he need a handler for?
As long as he has rank, he could be any rank,
he could be any rank and go in there and

(01:16:08):
do the job themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
You know, that's a good point, you know what, Jimmy, Well,
see see that's the thing of like normal normal, normal
minds who like don't believe were wolves are even real,
you know what I mean a lot of people don't
don't know where wolves exist. They think they're fairy tales.
But I mean I have people who are probably in
the chat right now who are watching our show live,

(01:16:30):
people who are watching who have contacted me to let
me know that they actually are were wolves. And there
are other people that change into other forms. Let's just say,
and and they're they're just humans basically.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Are they chipped? Are they chipped too? I'm just curious,
would they be chipped, Like Jimmy said, the other animals
were chipped. We'll think, well, in the military maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
First of all, Era fifty one never shocked any of
the werewolves. They were not None of them were never. Look,
if it's anything, we helped them, Okay, like when we
did the the show on wolfs, you know, were Angel

(01:17:17):
the last one, me and you did Micha. I mean, Jessica,
we gave her, you know, she could go to the
doctor every fifty one We got her sold. Security started up,
you know where she had some money coming in, you
know what I mean, every fifty one is pretty good

(01:17:42):
for somebody that's that's a werewolf because they're cared after.
You know, I can't see I can't see them wasting
the werewolves on a war because one, they're more needed
and to do space missions, all right, they're the only

(01:18:05):
ones that can go past the van Allen radiation belt.
Why would you take what if you were wolves you
have and waste them in a war while they're more
needed in the space program. Now I'm not saying that
they're not where wolves in the military. I think they are,

(01:18:28):
but they're more needed. They're more needed in the space
program than they would be on a battlefield.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Gosh, that makes a lot of sense. And Jimmy, I've
actually had whistleblowers who have been on my show discussing
how they have seen were wolves and interacted with them
in the secret space programs and they've been on spacecraft
with them before.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Well, I'm like this, Uh, Jessica, there's just not that
many of them. And just like you were talking about, uh,
breeders and handlers and all that, Uh, they the werewolves

(01:19:20):
themselves look down on people like that. You know, they
don't need that. Okay. What they need is it's like
a social program, you know, Uh, social services like you know,
proper medical care, counseling, stuff like that. Uh, they don't need.

(01:19:42):
They don't need to be exploited, is what I'm trying
to say. Now, I never had a problem with the werewolves.
I got along with the werewolves. What I had a
problem with or are the hybrids on on the island,
doctor Row? And let me tell you how I found out.

(01:20:05):
If you ever get in trouble and you get chased
by one of them, one of these, one of these hybrids.
If you see some feckal matter, step in it, take
the fickle matter, rub it on your arms, rub it
on your face, rub it on your cheeks, because if
you smell like one of them, he can't track you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Okay, So I gotta ask you something because I go
looking for I go dog men investigating quite often. I'm
in the woods all the time. So you're saying I
should pick up some poop and just slatter it and
I'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Well, let me let me ask you this now. Okay,
let's turn it. So let's turn the tide around here,
Let's say you is on an island, doctor Moroe, and
you heard a commotion and you walked into doctor Moreau's
porch there and you saw doctor Moreau mauled to death.

(01:21:07):
They mauled them and they was eating his flesh. Yeah, now,
and they got after you. Would you not take if
you saw fickle matter? Would you not take it and
rub it on your arms, your legs and your face
to hide, to hide your scent, to to get to

(01:21:28):
escape them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Now, that's what I need to do. Absolutely, I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Yeah. Well, that's that's what I did. And that's how
so they can't their sense of smell. They're thinking, there,
it's one of the other friends that you know, See,
I covered my scent. Now. I learned that when I
you know, like when we did the uh well we

(01:21:55):
we didn't. But when me and James did the Predator movies,
how I got the mud on me, you know, and uh,
when I realized that preditor couldn't see me. You know,
I used to put the mud on mud on me
because when I was up in a loss with the
Harmon tribe, I would always mud down, you know, with

(01:22:18):
the mud because of the insects and another thing, I
didn't want a tiger to smell that, smell me and
eat me, so I would always use the mud. And uh,
I never did get eight. Well, I've been around tigers,
you know what I mean. But but I'm just letting

(01:22:40):
you know about the fickle matter. If you go into
these forests and you see these creatures that, now, don't
don't don't go around and oh there's some rabbit poop
and rub rabbit poop on you, because no, they eat rabbits.
Now they'll chase the rabbit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
That's most important to know your poop, y'all know the
different types of poop. And I'm not kidding, this is
for real. That's what we were teaching my son, my
friend David Pardue. I don't know if David's in the
chat tonight. He's up out of North Carolina, a longtime
big Foot field researcher and uh and he he took
my son and I out in the woods one day.
We were on an expedition, and uh, he was teaching

(01:23:15):
my son about the different types of poop out there,
and I remember my son got so mad. He goes,
I came to look for Bigfoot, not learn about poop.
He was so mad. But you know, it's actually very important.
You got to know what's what. So you know what
predators are in the area, what food's in the area,
you know the migration all that. You know, it's really important.

(01:23:35):
Well now we have another reason to know it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yeah, well but yeah, but the butler liked a good hunt.
The servant, the dog and rose butler.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
I thought that was a son. He called him father.
They all called him father though didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Well, yeah, he called all of his sons and daughters
and he was the father. He was the father, okay.
But when father was killed, the social order started breaking down.
The social order started to break down. That's what was

(01:24:11):
so dangerous about it. And and like I said, once
the power went out, the electricity went out from the generators.
I'm on an island with these creatures and they can,
you know, smell you your sense, you know. And that's
what I did to stay alive because I didn't want
to get mild to death like doctor Moreau did.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
It was quite still there. H oops, sorry, y'all. I
had my micro commuted for the audience. This is uh,
this is the character that was portrayed by Jim Orton.
That or trade Jimmy Paine, y'all. Uh, this is Edward
and Douglas Douglas aka Jimmy Payne. And uh and this

(01:25:09):
is this is actually looking at one of these well they.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Call it it? And what what is the word?

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
And uh, I wren't what you what is that word?

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
A camera? Yes, there's actually my question, Jimmy, I was
going to ask you about this because this has been
kind of boggling my mind a little bit. Now, doctor
Moreau had a mini me. Okay, he had what I
call a mini me. Now, I did a couple of
shows last year on the unculous, okay, and I was

(01:25:43):
just curious. I'm not I have no idea if this
is what this is or not. But could he have
been dealing with homunculi as well? Do you know what
a homunculus is, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I know what gibbons are. The gibbons are a little monkeys.
But if you look at his hand, he's got a claw.
See his hand on hand? His claw?

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Okay, interesting, he does have claws. So he was actually
a human animal hybrid too. Then they're all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
I thought he might have been an army dealer, armadiller.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Armadaler and that's what we call him down here in
the South. We actually just had a possum drop last
night down the road from where I live. And uh, anyways,
long story, you might be a redneck if you go
to the possible broad Okay, just saying I love it, y'all.
But uh, but yeah, that's a good point. Jimmy could
have been or maybe even like a hate to say this,

(01:26:41):
like a rodent or something. I mean, with his little
claw hands. I don't know. It's it's all. It's all strange,
all very strange. Can that's a quick question.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Yeah, I just wanted to I just curious for the
timeline with the work with Airy fifty one, the Dull
space and the time with doctor Moreau.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Uh what for you?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
What timeline is like first, second, third type thing?

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
Will order? I was just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Well, I grew up in Area fifty one and when
I when I got into does Do Say, New Mexico
is about the time Thomas Costello was trying to break
you know, break the information out. And Thomas Costello worked

(01:27:32):
security at Do Say, New Mexico, and he had been
doing some filming and he was going to expose it
to the world. What was going on underneath? Do you
say New Mexico? And I was supposed to go out
in the desert and get and get the films because
he had buried him and he ended up coming up

(01:27:55):
missing when when nobody's seen him since Okay, now that
was back in the seventies. I'm thinking, I'm thinking that's
pretty good, pretty good question. Did the did hop did

(01:28:19):
the Moreau hop in first? Or Thomas Costella coming up missing?
How hopping first? I don't recall. I know, I know
that they're close together because it's right around about that
same time period, because but I don't what I saw

(01:28:40):
at Douce, New Mexico was was, uh, it was more
human and alien hybrids than than this. This was clearly
just animals at on Doctor Morose Island. But see animals
breed quicker. Okay, animals breed quicker. So if you had,

(01:29:05):
you know, breed a bunch of soldiers real quick. Now,
when he went down to the bunker, when Montgomery was
down there, there was having orgies down there, you know,
drug drug fuel orgies. You saw that, You saw the
animals screwing down there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Oh God, for entertainment purposes only, yeah, that movie though,
actually they do okay, well.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
Yeah, well you know Montgomery was Montgomery was handing out
the drugs. He was kissing on the pig lady. Yeah
he was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
He liked ladies, yeah he did. But piggy party, it
was kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
I saw he uh. Now, another thing I want to
point out the junk, that's what we call them junks.
The ship, the ship that picked me up with Montgomery
on it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
In the beginning of the movie and the beginning of
the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
He had a radio on that ship. Now that I
think about it, I'm thinking that ship might be like
a you know, if you think about international waters, if
you had a a laboratory on the ship, like some

(01:30:42):
of the some of the work that the smaller work,
like in test tubes. All right, I'm thinking that ship
might have been a lap ship. See, you had to
have when supplies are dropped off at the island, Doctor Moreau,

(01:31:06):
you had to have a ship. And I'm thinking now,
I'm thinking that part of the research took the test
heap stuff took place on the ship, but you had
to have a place to let the animals grow, you know,
on an island. And that was that was phase one

(01:31:28):
of the experiment. The island was But I'm I'm thinking
to get around international law. Why couldn't you have a
vibratory ship, you know, Uh, you know, a lab on
the ship? Why because Montgomery was on there, you know.

(01:31:49):
But I could have swore it. He was talking on
radio when I woke up and he hit it. H.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Well, there were he was almost kind of tricking you
a little bit, Jimmy, because once he got you on
the island, he puts you into your your living quarters
for the evening and he locked the door behind you,
and there were bars on the windows.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Yeah. Now when I went into the room, the curtains
were pulled and uh. And then when he closed the door,
he locked it. And if I wanted out, I could
have kicked the door. I mean. It's the point that
what he did, I didn't understand it, you see what
I'm saying. And then you had to remember I was

(01:32:31):
still kind of weak from the fever and everything. U
when I got got to the uh to the island,
you know, and I'm I knew how dangerous the animals were. Now,
Doctor Moreaue didn't see the danger in it, and he

(01:32:52):
ended up, like I said, he was mauled to death
by his his children, his.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Children, right, his songs and go ahead, speaking of excuse me,
his children, Oh, excuse me, okay, speaking of his children.
I'm sorry, so sorry, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
His daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
She was his perfection or something like that from what
the I remember the movie. In the movie, they were saying, well,
he'd almost hit like perfection with her or something, because
she did not look like a human animal hybrid at
all at first.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
And when she first entered the scene on the movie,
when when your character walked up to on the on
the deck she was dancing, she just looked like a
normal human. I'm thinking, well, oh, she must have come
over as a little girl with the scientist. But no,
actually she was a like a cat woman or something
like a feline. Not not to ruin the movie if

(01:33:56):
you hadn't seen it, but y'all need to go watch
the movie. Ye like at a feline human. And she
would shape shift and uh, and she shapshifted because she
didn't have the right hormones or had the right injection.
There was something that she was missing and uh, and
it would cause her to sheep shift. But she did
it when she got upset at the very end of
the movie. She got it, you know, right before she

(01:34:18):
got you know, she got she got dead as you
could say, uh she was, she started a sep shift,
almost like she was protecting you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Well, well, I look I looked at her, and when
I raised up her lips, her cane ines had started
to grow. Her her teeth was not I mean apparently

(01:34:52):
when they when they when they change, it doesn't take
long form to change. Maybe not immediately, but a matter
of days, you know, they could change. And her eyes
started her her pupils went from round to slit. You

(01:35:13):
could see their pupils were. They were still round, but
they were starting to you know, you know, get get thinner,
you know, kind of a split like. And when I
looked at her her ears or pulled her hair back
and looked at her hair, her ears started to, uh

(01:35:36):
you know, turn that turn back into the cat. But
when I went into the lab, I looked when Montgomery
had tore toward the lab up. I went in there
and you know, looked around in the lab. There was
no serve for her, so she was she was near him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
And gave blood too. Is that the one you gave
blood to?

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Well? What they did when I was unconscious on on
the on the ship, they had taken samples of my
blood when I was unconscious, and they were uh mixing
it with the medicine, and and something about my blood. Uh,

(01:36:26):
she was, she was she could tolerate it better with
my blood. See, I'm genetically modified myself. I'm I'm a
clone human. But her blood, the shape of her blood cells,

(01:36:49):
when it was mixed with my blood, Uh, it was
stabilizing her.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Okay mm hm so so Jimmy. So when when father,
when father was saying that he had was his daughter
was pretty much perfection or perfected. Whatever his experiments were.
Was his ultimate goal? Do you believe to make sheep
shifting human hybrids or was it just to make hybrids?

(01:37:16):
I mean, I guess, I guess it was all of it.
I guess according to the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
But ultimately, now this is I've had a lot of
years to think about this. It's been over fifty years,
and now look back at it and I reflect on it.
I'm thinking that there's two things that we're at here.

(01:37:44):
One to get past the Van Allen radiation bailt they
can take the animals can take the radiation better than humans,
you know, like the werewolves can take the radiation by well,
the animals can take the radiation better, all right. So

(01:38:08):
suppose you have Hyaeni you know he's in a secret
space program, all right, or the cat Woman, the cat
Woman on spacecraft. Okay. Now, I think Monroe, when I

(01:38:31):
would listen to him quote the Bible and everything, he
thought that he could breed out violence out of people.
He can. Other words, he could he could, you know,
if you could stop us from warring. You know what

(01:38:53):
I mean. You have to remember the wars going on.
People are being killed, and he's seeing that. I you know,
look at all the soldiers that had died in Vietnam,
and all of a sudden, there's no soldiers in South Vietnam.
He couldn't get the blood that he needed was for
his lap and here comes Jimmy Pine. You say what

(01:39:17):
I'm saying, All of a sudden, you have five hundred
and sixty something thousand troops in Vietnam and they all
get pulled out. And then I'm just, you know, one
of one of the very few left. And that's when
he took notice of money.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
So at the time they did not know that you
were connected to Area fifty one.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
When well, when I was on the vessel, no, I
don't think he knew I was Area fifty one. But
when I got too to the island and I realized
what he was doing, and then I started talking to Montgomery,
and Montgomery told me that, you know, they had been

(01:40:06):
in the States, that he had been run out of
the States, and but that kind of research. If you
go back to do Sayne, New Mexico, I think that's
where doctor Moreau comes from, is from the the from
do Say New Mexico. He just simply left and he

(01:40:28):
went over into a war to a war zone because
he knew that there was a lot of blood and
there was a lot of people, you know, getting killed,
and what better place to hide a war lap is
is in a war zone.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
And the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
You had to have a place to carry these experiments out.
You can't let you couldn't let these creatures out in
the national forest in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
What kind of jim Jimmy, that's that's I don't mean
to interrupt you there, but that's something that we talk
about a lot on my channel, is that we do
there there are people getting attacked, there's a lot of
people going missing at these national parks, Jimmy, and we're
talking about thousands upon thousands of people that go just
without a trace out of our national parks. And so

(01:41:17):
one of the theories is that some of these hybrid animals,
so it's human hybrids and some of these dog men
even bigfoot, are taking some of these people.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Well, I agree with you, uh, Jessica, But what I'm
saying is I think it. I think it started at
do say, New Mexico, and then it, yes, it ended
up it ended up on the island, you know, off
of Vietnam and that, and then when doctor Moreau died,

(01:41:49):
it's entered into another phase and the the doctor may
be dead, but the research is not. It's gone on.
And now the the research is focusing on on American
soul at these underground basis in these national parks.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Oh man, I mean, do you do you do you
believe that maybe some of these missing people are getting
snatched out because you know, my team actually has documented
a portal. I believe it's something human made. Portal was
like alien technology. Maybe I don't know, that's what I think,
you know, and taking people and putting them into these

(01:42:29):
programs and making them into human animal hybrids and stuff.
I mean that's what I think.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Yeah. Well, well I know this for a fact is
that I've seen you know, Charlie my best friend at
area at what greech Air Force Base. Charlie my best friend.
He's he's a white male and he's been he's spliced
with a with a tall gray uh. And he's just

(01:42:56):
a I mean, he's a likable guy, but uh, he's
part tall gray you know. And so I know that's
going on, that they're experimenting with humans and uh and aliens. Uh,

(01:43:16):
that's going on real big time. And do say New Mexico,
now see you have the aliens. You know, they want
to mix with us because there's other planets they see.
Not only can we go to their planets, but they
can come to our planet. Okay, I ah, some are

(01:43:41):
excuse me, some aliens don't do well on on our
on our Earth. It's either too much sunlight or it's uh,
you know, not it's it's too cool, you know. You know,
so the weather's getting hotter and hotter. That's what they like.
They like hot weather. Now with the animals, uh, suppose

(01:44:09):
you got high any you crossed them with a tall
gray are you are you? You know what I'm saying?
You have a high aening. Instead of cross a high
ana with a human, you cross the high ana with
tall gray.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
You'd have a great high any hyena, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
So so when you start talking, you know we're having
trouble tonight me and you're having trouble. We can't say
it was. We can't explain the animal. But what I'm
trying to say is, instead of a human high any,
why can't you have a high any tall gray? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
I like, I like the way you think, Jimmy outside
the box.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
Here a high any smile or smile ah greg or
a hyena reptilian what I'm yeah. Other words, we're not
we're splicing humans with aliens. We're splicing aliens with animals.

(01:45:19):
So that might be why we can't we we we
can't explain it. You can't. You're having trouble to not
try and tell me what your the reports are.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Mm hm, that's right. I wonder if hyenies eat vienis
you know what Jimmy, my audience likes to make get
me to say vienas sausages. I don't know if you
call them vienas or vennas. Okay, down where I live,
we call them vienasi. Thank you. It's it's my my

(01:45:53):
southern brethren over here. Yeah, we call them vienas. Yes,
we said it tonight, y'all. Okay, And I said chicken fingers,
tater logs, and vina sausages, Melissa. I, but you don't
call them vienas, do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:46:07):
I'm no. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
I says things I say differently than you guys do.
It's kind of fun. Yeah, I'm Canadian. Yeah, say that
in American accent. I'm Canadian. We're basically practically two separate
languages right there.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
Oh man, Jimmy and I love it you. That is
a wonderful point, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
I've not looked at it that way before, you know,
because we're always thinking, I mean, we're just always busting
outside this box and busting outside the box, and like,
you know, it's like animal human hybrids, Well why are
they not animal et hybrids? Exactly? I just I had not, really,
I had not gone down that route yet.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
So I tell you something. Interestingly, I got a call
one time that there had been a underwater object, you know,
and some kids were playing on a beach and they

(01:47:14):
walked up where they thought was a pile of seaweeds,
you know, on the beach, and they saw it moving
and uh so they called, uh there, uh them, I
b's all rushed down there. And it was, I want
to say, kind of like a gild Man was in

(01:47:39):
the seaweeds. It was an alien. It was reptilian, but
it's kind of like the creature from the Black Lagoon,
you know what I mean. And we ended up putting
in a tank because it could I mean, it could
live outside the water, but it only to live so long,

(01:47:59):
you know, And we put it in a tank with
with uh we could look through a little pane of
glass and look at it. But it was a guild
man or what we would call a gil Man. But
it was exterrestrial.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
That's like an immerman.

Speaker 5 (01:48:18):
Was it amphibious or was it leg Well, the it
was similar to the u if you watch the old
black and white movie, the sci fi movie the Creature
from the Black Lagoon.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
It was a gil Man. I've seen actually I've seen
gil men in North Vietnam. Well, right right about where
the DMZ zone is, I found a cave.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
And uh.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
What we were doing we were trying to figure out
how the the north these were getting past the d
ZZ on. You know, we thought they were using this cave.
And when I went into the cave, it was it
was blocked up. It had well you could put your
hand on the wall and it was slightly cool, you know,

(01:49:18):
like like a refrigerator cool. And you could take your
flashlight and shine on the wall and evid exorbed the
light and it had it had a vibration to it,
like like machines running behind it. Well, the story doesne

(01:49:43):
end there. It had strange writing on the on the wall.
Now that I look back at it, it was extrarestrial writing.
But we had gone out on patrol one night in
the pet boat and they had dropped us off in

(01:50:06):
one of the canals and we was walking through the
jungle and we had stopped. You know, every once in
a while you stop and be quiet and you listen,
you know, see if you could hear the enemy movement.
But sure enough I heard noise and I looked looked over,

(01:50:31):
you know, uh in the tree line, and I seen
these creatures. They were glowing. They were like a bluish white,
but they looked like a light bulb. You know, like
a like a twenty watt light bulb, you know, just

(01:50:55):
a real low power light bulb. And they and they
were it was a gil Man and it had it
had web web hands. There was like I saw four
of them at first, and I squatted down me and

(01:51:18):
other guy did it was extrarestrial? It was. It was
in the It was in the jungle. Now what happened
after that passed through a few minutes later, three or
four more of them passed through. So I cut on,

(01:51:40):
I cut I cut around, and we went back to
the canal and the p T boat pulled up and
we jumped on the PET boat and by that time
it might have been about eighty or ninety of them. Extrarestrials.
They were. They were lined up on the the canal

(01:52:03):
mm hmm and uh, and we opened up gun fire
on them. We were we were firing back at them,
and uh they started to return fire with some type
of laser weapon. And the p the PT boat, the uh,
the patrol riverboat that I was on. You know, we

(01:52:26):
got two one hundred and eighty horsepower Detroit Diesel engines
on them, and uh, the guy you know, pushed all
the way up. You know that that that bottle reared up. Yeah,
huddle to the metal, and we were shooting everything off,
all the rifles, all the machine guns, the deck guns,

(01:52:49):
yeah yeah. And floodlight. Well, hell, we didn't need the floodlight.
They were like light bobs up on the side of
the canal. We could see them.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Jimmy, I got I wanted to ask you something real quick.
I don't mean to interrupt you, but I had just
covered this week the frog men. Okay, there's something there's
like frogmen. There's all these videos going around of these
will look like frog reptilian humanoids, and they're like in Mexico.
It's hard to decipher what's AI and what's real at
this point. Okay, but I do know that historically we

(01:53:21):
have had reports of frog men across the United States,
across the world. You know, I was tasked with that.
You know, I'm a remote viewer trained in remote viewing
the military style, and I was given the Loveland frogmen
as a blind. I had got like four targets of
the Loveland frogmen out of Ohio, and part of my
data included mon talk time travel. Okay, these frogmen were

(01:53:46):
seen with what people described as magic wands kind of
like what you're talking about, something that had sparks coming
out of it, like a little wand.

Speaker 3 (01:53:55):
Okay, well, let me tell you if I've been countered
one and he's had and it's not a want, it's
a weapon. This hopping up in I believe it was Kentucky,
and this is back in the late I want to
say it might have been the early seventies, nineteen seventy

(01:54:19):
maybe there had been reports of a frogman down by
a creek, and I went down there and I saw him,
and he had a gun, a little ray gun, and
it looked like a sparkler, like you ever seen a

(01:54:40):
child they get a sparkler. He lighted up and it sparkles.

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
That's how these were described that they saw on the
front men.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Well, it looked kind of like one of the phases
we had we used on the Enterprise start Track Enterprise,
because I used to have a phaser when I was
on the Enterprise. But it was a little different looking
it had it was a little bit smaller for his

(01:55:10):
hand because the creature's hand was wept, and but it sparkled. Now,
the ones on on the Enterprise never sparkled. They just
shoot a beam out you know, but this one sparkled
and it was a weapon, and but he saw me

(01:55:32):
and he took his gun and he fired at me.
He missed, and then he ran. He jumped into the
to the water and was gone. But he was about
four foot tall, I say, way about maybe about eighty

(01:55:52):
five pounds, maybe seventy eighty five pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:55:57):
That's exactly how they were described, Jimmy h by other people.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
Yeah, I've I've I've encountered one, uh up in Kentucky
on a creep bank.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Jimmy, what do you think there could have been a
connection to mon talk with these frogs or these kind
of these type of creator critters creatures.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
Yeah, Uh, let's le let me back up here. I'm
gonna tell you a story I've never half covered. Uh,
the Amityville Horror very well. I was supposed to do
that with Misa Johnson. Uh, I was going to do

(01:56:42):
the amity Bill Horror with her and James Rink And
then I want to say, Masha got sick and James
and me got bogged down doing something else. But I'm
gonna go I'm gonna uh Butched, well, not Butch, I
call him, butch Ronald Defray. Now Ronald Defray is uh,

(01:57:09):
he's the one that uh the Amityville hard you know
where the all the p the family got shot while
they were in their beds, you know, which was.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
In Montalk by the way. Isn't like I passed. We
passed by where that house was. We went to Camp
Hero and we stayed at Montalk. Jimmy, Yeah, well Ronald
I knew Ronald.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
Me and him were good friends. Uh he was a
he was a Montalk boy. A lot of people didn't
know that. And yeah, yeah, and now don was a
Montak girl. I have never got said I want to
do a show on the Montauk girls. Uh. I got
a lot of people, uh, a lot of females or

(01:57:53):
you know, talking about time travel and all types of
uh you know, strange things happening to them. And uh,
the only way that I can do it is to
do a show on Mtyville Horror. But what I'm trying
to say is Butch, Well, Ronald, I call him Butch.

(01:58:16):
That that's what he liked being called around Montalk. Butcher
called the base one day says, look, we've got some
kind of a creature that's looking in the house. So
we went down to his house. It had been snowing
that day. And I went into the the kitchen, the

(01:58:40):
kitchens in the back of the house, and sat down
at the table and I was talking with butch Uh
and he said, well, the creature came up to the
window and we and we saw the eyes of the creature.
So you know when when you watch the movie about
the creature, you know, uh, the Amityville creature. But anyway,

(01:59:07):
I went out in the backyard and sure enough, I'm
seeing three toes of footprints. Whatever the creature was, it
had three toes to it, and you can see where
it was standing around by the window. And then it
turned around and went back and walked back towards the

(01:59:27):
boat house and got into the into the into the
the canal. There. Well comes around comes summertime and down
down at Lake Montalk now Lake Montalk. A lot of

(01:59:49):
people don't know this, but if you watch the movie Jaws,
Jaws one where uh, the the police chief is and
it's the fourth of July, and he's got to go
down to the to the marina, you know, and there's
a lot of tourists coming in. Well, the month the

(02:00:10):
the Jiles movie was filmed at Lake Montauk.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
That's where the creature is, isn't it. Jimmy, I actually
told him to stick my toes in that water or
the Montape mantra would get me.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
Well, I told James that. But what happened was we
had a We had a Montape boy that drowned in
in that lake. And uh, about a couple of weeks later,
we had another boy drowned. We had about three guys

(02:00:41):
I think it was three or either four had drowned
within like four months. All right, so we're seeing a pattern.
See the first the first couple of them, we thought, well,
maybe it was drug related, you know, or or maybe
you know, maybe somebody was killing them. But what got

(02:01:03):
things rolling was one of the boys had a had
a Rolex watch on. And this Rolex watch was very
important because you could turn the down on it and
you could teleport. You ever watch the movie they they live, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
That's it quite often. Actually, yes, well, well.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
Well I had I had, they say, they sent me
down to the lake to get the watch. So I
got the scuba gear, you know, and and I'm I'm
experiencing that. Okay, I'm not the type of guy that
sees a good scuba tank and puts it on and

(02:01:51):
don't know what's going on. You know, I'm I'm qualified
in that. So went down there and I've got my
my gear on, I you know, went off into the
water and I'm down there and after a little while

(02:02:14):
to see the watch, and I grabbed it. And as
I was coming up with the watch, I know that
you know, you know, when someone grabs you, you can
feel their hand on you.

Speaker 5 (02:02:29):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
I could feel hands grabbing by both my ancles. Oh gosh,
and it pulled me down. It was trying to drown me.
And I was fighting. I was fighting for my life.
I was being drowned. I was gonna be victim number five.

(02:02:53):
And what happened was I had a light and I
turned the light on, and apparently the bright light might
have blinded the creature. That's only that's the only explanation
I could think of, okay, because the light I had
a loop, you know, when I when I had that

(02:03:14):
the floodlight. You know, you it's got a little loop
that you put on your wrists. You know, if you
let go of it, still you still it's still attached
to you because it's it's it's a little core that
wraps around your wrists and you hold the light as
you search the bottom of the of whatever you're doing
down there. So I think I blinded the creature, but

(02:03:37):
I broke loose and the one of the one of
the other guys from Montak had a pike pole and
he threw it. He ran, he grabbed it and he uh,

(02:03:57):
he stuck it in the water, and I grabbed it
and he pulled me out. And it was, like I said,
he grabbed he got me out of the water. And
see it had tore the hose off my air tunk,
so I was, you know, I couldn't get air because

(02:04:18):
my hose was tore off my air tunk, but it
was trying to drown me. Well, coup A couple of
years pass and some some researchers down there and they
get a picture of the creature sitting on a rock,
and I'm thinking that that was the same creatures using

(02:04:43):
the canals, you know, uh, like I said, where the
phrase used to live that old boat house back there,
It goes out to sea, but he's using the that
canal back there, coming in from the sea, and apparently,

(02:05:05):
you know, mon talk like ain't but about seventeen foot deep.
It's not deep. But the highest death right, the highest
drownings in the United States if you and you can
do a Google search on it. But the highest drownings
of any like in the United States is mont Talk like.

(02:05:25):
More people have drowned in Mott Yeah, more people have
drowned in mon talk like any like in the United States.
There's statistical figures on it. Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
There's also a lake out in Nevada called Pyramid Lake.

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
Yell about that one.

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
And Pyramid Lake has a high rate of drownings and
it's surely Caucasian men by the way, but they but
they are said to be pulled down by the legend
is you know, because you're you're you are of pyu
background yourself, Jimmy, Right, And they talk about how a
spiteful mermaid lives in that lake, but it grabs people

(02:06:04):
by their feet and pulls them down along with the
water babies as well, and so many people end up
like bodies end up in Lake Tahoe because they have
these under underground aquifers or some kind of connection between
Lake Tahoe and Pyramid Lake and where bodies are like
surfacing in the other lake. Like somebody will drown in
Lakes Tahoe and they end up in pyramid and they

(02:06:25):
drown and pyramid end up in Lake Tahoe. It's really weird.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
Well I got I got a good one for you, Okay,
a sustener playing went down in one like it and
it came up in another like I don't doubt that. Yeah, yeah,
there's there's We had a report and it came up
in pyramidlike. It crashed in one like and came up
in another like, came up in pyramidlike because people saw

(02:06:52):
it crash. Yeah, yeah, it just you know what I mean,
How does you a desert? I mean, how do you
crash a cuss or plane in one lake but it
floats up in another?

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:07:09):
Same as the bodies though, I guess.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
But but getting back getting back to uh to those
reports of those creatures and those lakes, Yeah, I've investigated.
Uh there have been creatures that migrate in and now
those lakes. I'm thinking they go in during the night

(02:07:34):
and they stay all for a while and then whenever
the fish or resources are exhausted, they move on to another.
Like you know most likes is some type of exterrestrial
that is skipping around.

Speaker 1 (02:07:52):
Could there be portals Jimmy, some kind of portal underneath
the water.

Speaker 3 (02:07:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Let me tell you something.
We had a submarine that uh back in the the
threshold I believe the name of submarine was or either Stingray,
I forget which one it was. Uh one came up

(02:08:20):
missing it and they never found. But what was going
on out by Malibu there's an underground cavern and you
can get that submarine in it, and damn near go
all the way up our east California and you know,

(02:08:45):
come up damn near uh to Nevada. Well, not in Nevada,
but close to Nevada.

Speaker 1 (02:08:53):
There's submarine bases in Nevada.

Speaker 3 (02:08:55):
Jimmy, No, no, what I'm saying, yeah, well yeah, yeah,
yeah there is. But what I'm trying to say is
the natural cavern not the man made, but the natural caverns.
You have all the earthquakes, O case, open up. It's
opened up caverns up underneath lost of Nevada, not Las Vegas,

(02:09:18):
but Nevada Long Beach in particular. All right, these underground
caverns has been opened up we could get in a submarine,
and we've traveled damn near to uh to Nevada. Now,
now I believe they have been boring it with a

(02:09:38):
boring machine, but I do know we we could go
from the Pacific Ocean damn near to the Nevada line
with the natural caverns. Because I've been in the submarine. Yeah,
I've been in the submarine.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
It's really uh huh channel I going to bring this
comment up. Uh Surface Planet Radio says China leak. I
heard a lot about China leak too.

Speaker 3 (02:10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
Yeah, all these places are checking by some You can
submarine take a submarine to some of these places. I've heard.

Speaker 3 (02:10:12):
I don't know. Yeah, yeah I was. I was at China,
like you know, uh yeah, I've been known about that
since I was a kid, you know. But like I said,
you know, when you when you start trying to tell
people about this, they don't believe it. And so that's
the reason I don't well, I don't have a reason.

(02:10:35):
Well I don't have well, I don't have a reason
to go out and try to tell tell people in
the public because one, I'm not getting anything out of it.
I mean, it's nothing new to me. You know, it's
nothing new to me.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
Well, we talk about it a lot here on my channel,
Jimmy about the all the underground caverns and even even
the submarine bases in the middle of the desert, which
don't make any sense to us normies, okay to I'm
not calling to us normies, but to the normies, and
it doesn't make any sense. But you know, it helps
to have friends who are whistleblowers and people who have

(02:11:16):
worked in these bases. And I'm not for companies, not you,
I'm talking about other people. I have other other other
people who've been on my shows who are whistleblowers and
uh and uh, and so we have people that had
come on just to tell their experiences, and so we
there's a pattern. Okay, there's a pattern of of I
believe this. I do believe the testimony, Okay from people

(02:11:36):
who called shows.

Speaker 3 (02:11:38):
Well, you know when I was a ride in the
boat with Oscar Snyder, Captain Snyder O U boat. You
know where you know where we would go to in
the U boat where Well up on our nieth mon
talk MISSUS submarine base. I could yeah, we can yet

(02:12:02):
to go out in the Atlantic. But I'm come up
underneath Long Island and I'm on the Long Island. Uh,
there's a submarine base underneath Montalk I would not doubt that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:17):
Well, there's also plum Plumb Island and brook Heven Lambs
right there too. I don't know how, I don't know
how long they've been there, but compared to montau well.

Speaker 3 (02:12:25):
Well I've been. I've been to brook Haven. Now. Preston
Nicholas used to work at brook Haven hit an office
down there.

Speaker 4 (02:12:34):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:12:34):
Now a lot of people say they keep talking about
Montauk girls. Mhm, that was the Fort Sheilden girls going
to brook Haven and then from brook Haven they'll drive
by van to Camp he Rode and they do the
time job. Uh. The girls never did stay at Camp

(02:12:58):
he rot We have we have a lot of women
that are going around talking that they're mon talk and
that is so uh so it's so backwards, you know
what I mean? Those those women worse housed at brook
Haven and they drove them by van to Camp Hero.

(02:13:24):
They never were Camp Hero. They're Fort Tilden. They're Fort Tilden.
They come from Fort Tilden.

Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
Which is not very far from there.

Speaker 3 (02:13:35):
What's on the side a Long Island you see. But
see I haven't, I haven't. I haven't done a show
on on the Fort Tilden. Well, I guess we could
just start calling Camp Hero girls. Uh, but they're actually
a Fort Tilden girls. So we have we have we
have females that are running around, uh and they're calm themselves,

(02:13:59):
Montauk girls. The only time they're considered Montalk is one
of the Camp Hero boys went down to Fort Tilden
and they you know, psychologically, you have to work, you
have to have personalities that you know, don't conflict with

(02:14:19):
one another. So they're very well screened. And when and
when the when the Fort Tilden girl is matched with
a Montauk boy, then she's considered a Montauk girl herself.
It's kind of like you're from Camp Hero, but you're
gonna go down Fort Tilden to pick your date up,

(02:14:42):
you know what I mean. But when you pick your
date up, she's Montauk at that point. She's she's trained,
she's trained for counter espionage. Okay, that's what those girls
were trained as. And I'm seeing I'm seeing just the
very opposite. I'm seeing girls that are are are total wrecks.

(02:15:03):
They can't. These women are high or high high, eye cute,
high their beauty. They're picked for their beauty and they're
picked for their high cute just cause you might be pretty,
don't you don't. They don't cut it. You got to

(02:15:24):
be high cute and pretty, okay, because we like we
like presidential models, presidential and uh. Our our females are
our beauty queens, and they're strictly high cute, and they're

(02:15:49):
trained in all sorts of stuff. They're not the I
mean they're high, they're they're highly trained. I've got uh,
I've got guys little uh See that was a problem.
James meant well, and James was a good James Rink

(02:16:09):
was a good hearted person. And anybody can go up
to James and say, well, I was doing this and
that and that this. James would listen to him, and
some were telling the truth. There There there are people
in his organization that that were that did do time travel.

(02:16:29):
I've already confirmed it, but I quite a few of
them have not. And see that's the that that is.
There's there's one issue here. I can take them to
Area fifty one Shick. There are money for bar code
scanner and they'll tell me who who? Who is the
real man taught boy? Who is the real man taught girl?

Speaker 1 (02:16:54):
And Jimmy's got the tea tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:16:56):
I like that. That's what. That's what.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
So, so they're basically chipped two.

Speaker 3 (02:17:04):
The people that are inside the Super Soldiers program that
James Rink, you know, gather together. There are some that
are trying travelers, but I would say about forty percent
of them or not forty percent of the people in

(02:17:26):
the Super Soldiers or not or not, maybe between thirty
five and forty percent are And I'm not saying they're lying.
They may be you know, some mental issues involved in it.
You know, people have got brain fogged and what have
you know, but the vast majority of them have had

(02:17:49):
paranormal experiences. I will say that for James. But it's flawed,
like any organization's gonna have. It's gonna have some flaws
in it. But some of those girls that are claiming
to be you know, my to be mon talk or there,
they're telling the truth. Yeah, and some of and some

(02:18:12):
of the boys, but not not all of them.

Speaker 1 (02:18:15):
Oh my goodness, Melissa, I actually met you at the
Super Soldier Activation conference. It was James's conference just recently,
and U we there's there are a lot of I mean,
the testimonies that were given out there were fantastic and stuff.
What is your opinion on this?

Speaker 2 (02:18:33):
I to me, it's it's once God like I listen
to everybody me too, and so it's it's do I
go by certain feelings and senses of people? Yes, but
for the most part, like I do believe what most
people are saying for the most part from where they're
coming from. There's the odd one where I would question

(02:18:55):
certain things. I'll say that I won't name any names,
but for the most part I do. Yeah, but there's
the idea they won't say any names. But of course no,
don't drop names.

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
No, Jimmy is spilling the tea though I appreciate always
so candide is important to be candid.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
To me, I'm more like that too, Like if I'm
come to say, just my oops, that came out, Yes
I did so, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:19:21):
Look, look, I want to say this. The Mond type
boys were bred for for for violence. Okay. They're the
closest thing to June or the language that you can get.
They they've been in jail reform schools. You name it.

(02:19:43):
In fact, the prison with the movie that Shawshank Redemption
was was filmed at You remember, you know that movie
will will.

Speaker 1 (02:19:56):
Yes, wonderful movie.

Speaker 3 (02:19:57):
Okay, that used to be a boy's reform school at
one time before it was a prison. Okay, some of
the Montauk boys were sent to the Shawshank Reform School
before it was made into a prison. So when what

(02:20:21):
I'm trying to say is this, you got guys that
are down there that have the that's wandered in too
super soldier's talk, you know, talking about their sexually like

(02:20:42):
male prostitutes, you know, people that are bisexual and such. Now,
Preston Nichols did molest some of these boys when I
was at camp. He wrote every kid down there had
had a knife or some type of weapon on because

(02:21:04):
they were used to reform schools. Okay, So Presston didn't
screw around with any of the Montauk boys when I
was there, because we were very violent. It was only
after we were all sent off to Vietnam and Montalt
closed down briefly. And when it was closed down a

(02:21:28):
couple of years. At it was closed down, Air Force
colonel came to uh pressed and talked to Press and
asked him. He said, do you think you can get
the tire back up running? Press said yes, and he
and Press said, if if I get running, I want

(02:21:49):
control of it. So the colonel, the Air Force colonel,
from what I understand of it, said okay. So Preston
was down there along Albelic. Al Bulic was a company man,
and Albelic knew that Preston was molesting those those young

(02:22:15):
boys down there. So we have we have we have
two different types of Montague boys. We have the Montape
boys from the Vietnam era MHM back and then you

(02:22:36):
have this group of boys that came in after Vietnam.
After Vietnam was over, there's no war, and Preston was
down there running it. Okay. So the ones that were

(02:23:00):
down there was just basically being molested by Preston. Those
boys were not trained to go to war. There's no war.
I was trained. I was trained out to go to war. Okay.
So only a very few. Now there's one down there.

(02:23:23):
I'm not gonna mention his name. Him missed that, you know,
Preston molested him. All right, He's only one I recognize.
That's only one I don't recognize any the other ones,
and I would say that the vast majority of are lion.

(02:23:52):
I've only found one since I left when when Preston
was there running it. That's done a time jump. The
rest of the boys are just male prostitutes.

Speaker 1 (02:24:09):
They didn't, you know, unwilling one.

Speaker 3 (02:24:13):
I undersume, Yeah, they were just they were just male lovers.
It's all what they were. I've only met one and
I don't want to give his name out. I have
to talk to him first. But when you when you start,
we've we've got and I'm not going to name her name.

(02:24:34):
We've got people going around forming mind talks of ivory groups,
and they're talking about all this and that when you
go to war you have a tendency not to talk.
These people are talking about all their personal ailments, all
their their their their their personal lives. Who gives a

(02:24:57):
damn you know that's not a mon hot boy. Okay,
a mon tap boy is tough. Now, going back to
the Fort Tilden girls, I've seen a lot of females
going around talking about time travel and space travel. Now

(02:25:22):
the females are used for two things. They're using the
communications and they're used in navigation. Okay, they can they
can run the computers. Okay, that frees the men up
to get on and off the craft to go explore.

(02:25:43):
All right, So you got to remember they pick them
for their beauty and their intelligence. There's very few females
that I There are some, but I was sixty percent
of them don't cut it? Oh my goodness, forty percent do?

(02:26:11):
I would say around about forty percent of the females
do cut it in the Super Space program M.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
Jimmy, what do you think about that? It's much more
I want to say pop culture, which is a terrible
way to put this, but way more popular now to
discuss things like the Montalk Project. Because we've had this huge,
brand new season of the show called Stranger Things just
came out and it was actually based off the Montalk Project,

(02:26:40):
and they just released the last episodes last night. I'm
actually going to be doing a show with Sherry Devban
and Tyler Koala next week, y'all. We're gonna talk about
it over on Sherry Channel. But this is it's bringing
it to the collective consciousness now, to all the masses. Okay,
people are just a lot of the what I call
normies or just learning about the Montark project, and what

(02:27:03):
do you think about that? Why is there a shift
right now? Do you have any kind of explanation like
what is your theory is to why there's such a
shift universally with the collective consciousness on learning about these things.

Speaker 3 (02:27:16):
Well, you have to remember when Preston and al Blick
did their did their interviews, they didn't have the internet,
you know, they had VCR cameras, you know what I mean.
And they went to conferences they didn't they didn't have

(02:27:38):
they didn't not everybody had a computer in the house.
And by the time that see, they weren't making any money.
Our Bulick broke. Our Bulick died penniless. I talked to
a researcher, had to buy him a seat just so

(02:28:00):
that he could go to a conference and talk. He
didn't have any money. Okay, it's a sad thing, but
he didn't have any money. And the money that Preston
had is what he earned being a sound engineer. Uh
he worked uh for you know a movie company, h Stephen, Oh,

(02:28:31):
the guy did Star Wars. Uh yeah, yeah, he worked
with Steven Spielberg.

Speaker 1 (02:28:38):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:28:39):
So by the time that they did all these tours,
their age and everything. You know, it was kind of
like an after I mean, it did make an effect,
you know, It's kind of like throwing a rock in
a pond. It did make a ripple. I And I

(02:29:02):
think when James came along and this, and I have
to give James Rink credit for something here. James used
the internet, he used the podcast and he picked up
he went and he found uh, Preston Nichols, He found Albelic,

(02:29:23):
He eventually found me, you know, and we all started talking.
And from there, you know, it just kept growing and growing.
But he had already had super soldiers talk. And I
will say one good thing about James Ring. I like James,

(02:29:45):
and I am very sad that James, you know, passed away.
Uh but James, what James did is what al Beelic
and Pres Nicholas couldn't do. He did it with the computers.

Speaker 5 (02:30:05):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:30:06):
Now, going back to stranger things in everything the public knows,
they're just not ready to accept it. You don't have
any more free elections. All your elections, your presidents are picked, okay,

(02:30:29):
your world leaders are picked. And eventually people are going
to start saying, hey, Jessica Jones, she's talking this guy
named Jimmy Payne, and we're watching this movie Stranger Things.
I wanted there's something to it. Say. It's like James

(02:30:52):
threw the first stone in the pond and that was
a ripple. James is no longer here. Jessica has thrown
a stone into into the pond, and there's another ripple
coming up. If you keep throwing stones in the pond,
you're gonna keep getting ripples until people take notice. And

(02:31:15):
that's what's occurring right now. Okay, No, I didn't go
on the line. I didn't go on the circuit with
Albelic or Pressting because I saw the writing on the wall.
And as I said earlier, Albelic, a researcher, had to

(02:31:37):
buy him a suit just so that he could stand
up in front of a conference, which is kind of sad,
but he never made any money off of it. Now
pressed into him, you know scheme they was going to
sell a device, you know, like like people used to

(02:31:57):
hunt for ghosts and such, you know, radio frequencies devices,
you know and all that. Yeah, and uh we saw
all that went. And you know with me, I don't

(02:32:17):
need I don't need a group. I don't need healing
so survivors, if there's any time I needed somebody's When
I came out of Vietnam. If you watch the first
Rainbow movie, uh where I go across the bridge and
the cop arrested me. Yeah, I couldn't hold a john

(02:32:39):
when I got out of Vietnam. You know. But when
I looked up and I'm on and I see myself
on a movie screen, I started thinking, well, that's me.
What why am I doing? What do they do this
to me? You know what I mean? I went to
Vietnam h and and I came back. I could fly

(02:33:05):
a helicopter, a gunship. I could you know, drive a tank.
I couldn't even hold a job working at a car wash.
But I you know, I healed myself. You know. You
know time heals you, and you know, so I kind

(02:33:28):
of reach out and and I tell people, yeah, so
you had a bad time. You know, you don't need to,
you know, go out and do it like al Builick
and pressed and did you know you don't need to

(02:33:48):
do that.

Speaker 1 (02:33:54):
Well, Jimmy, I'm glad that you have spoken up and
share your encounters with us and and share your your
story and it connects a lot of dots for us.
And that's that's what I am here to do, is
to connect the dots.

Speaker 2 (02:34:11):
And I felt that today too, lots of connections and
dots being Yeah, that was so cool.

Speaker 3 (02:34:16):
Well, you know the most happiest time in my life
is when I was on the enterprise, and you know,
I com managed the enterprise. James was just you know,
he really wanted me to, you know, take him on

(02:34:38):
the enterprise. I believe if I had, if I if
I could have done it, I probably would have taken
him own there. But but James, uh, he he's surrounding
himself with these writers from from a Star Trek, you know,

(02:34:59):
and and uh and they were talking about all the
nee Star Trek movies. Well, I don't know anything about
the new Star Trek movies. It's just the old Star
Trek movies, you know, the original star track when I
commanded it, you know, and they I guess they called
themselves trying to catch men alive. But you know what

(02:35:23):
what really woke them all up is when I said,
do you know how much money the the how much
money the Star Trek Enterprise made. I said, it's eleven
point two billion. And I said, you know, at that
convention when they put the sleeping gas in the building

(02:35:47):
and they knocked all y'all out, y'all all you writers out,
and they pulled an eighteen wheeler up. In the back
of eighteen wheler was a Montac chair, and they's after
every one of those writers. And then they put them
back into the chairs and they woke up and see

(02:36:08):
they thought they were going to get three percent of
eleven billion dollars. That was a contract. They didn't get left,
they didn't get three percent each each each Star Trek
rider would have got over three hundred million dollars. Three
hundred and thirty million dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:36:28):
I think Jerry would have liked that. Jim Jimmy Jerry
in the chat used to be a writer on the
old Star Trek and uh and Jerry's in the chat
pretty often. But he's but Jerry says, but unpaid and
unhired must say a contractor you didn't have a part
in that. Huh. I'm sorry, Jerry.

Speaker 3 (02:36:45):
They when I saw that, how they screwed the writers
out of three hundred and thirty million dollars. Dang and
and and and yeah and they and they and they
you know, taste them and the Montac chair had it. Yeah, yeah,
and they put them back in there, and and and

(02:37:09):
now you look at them and they pull up on
the set, and and and the car be leaking ann
and freeze or dripping all and they say, well, could
you park it across the street? We don't want oil
or and and freeze aren't a lot. And you know,
and they don't have no use for them now because
they got a I they can write the scenes for them,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:37:29):
God, yes, but but the devil but but but what
I'm what I'm getting at is that.

Speaker 3 (02:37:40):
Uh they got when they are all writing their stories,
you know, they missed. They missed. The best part mhm
is that some of it was true. But they but
they can't figure out the only one that can do

(02:38:01):
that is me. I'm going to old Star Trek movies
and say, well, this this and that hypen you know,
but that they lost the truth, you know, and had
they Like I said, that was a sight to behold,
you know. Uh, But I don't go to the Star

(02:38:22):
Trek conventions, you know. Uh, I keep to myself, you know,
but I like I like Commanding the Enterprise. I really
liked it. I like my girl girlfriend too.

Speaker 1 (02:38:39):
Who was your girlfriend?

Speaker 3 (02:38:41):
I had quite a few girl friends. Oh she was
she was special.

Speaker 1 (02:38:47):
You know you had a girlfriend at one point.

Speaker 3 (02:38:50):
Yeah, I had a werewof girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (02:38:52):
You have lived it up this lifetime, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (02:38:54):
Yeah. But but like like like, like I said, when
you really, when you really look for the truth, you
can't find it because it's covered up so much. You know.
But I really miss Spark. I missed his brother, say Bach,

(02:39:18):
you know, I miss both of the Balkans. I knew
you all. I gave a Spark's mother a venice fly
trap when a flower, you know. When Spark died, you know,
and I liked her. But I wish that things would

(02:39:39):
have been different. You know. Maybe I will return one day,
but I never could. Uh, I could never report to
a politician. I'm a Navy I'm a Navy guy. I'm

(02:39:59):
old Navy guy, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:40:01):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:40:01):
When I was out in the Dazzer, out in the
battle outer space is kind of my navy, you know,
that's kind of you know. If I had to pick
between the waters of Vietnam, the canals, the Brown Water Navy,
or the Navy out in space, I believe I would

(02:40:25):
pick the Star Trek Enterprise because I've had so many
bad experiences in the canals in Vietnam, but that was
just one of them. With the Island Doctor Moreae, I'm
letting you know that's true. I can't figure out which
sloper got a hold of, you know, the intelligence foul

(02:40:47):
and took a time drunk time jump back and maybe
one hundred years ago. I guess somebody lived back there
or like that era. And you know, do you have
the Island of Doctor Moree book's been outbout one hundred years,
So apparently we have a looper that likes that timeline
brought the story back.

Speaker 1 (02:41:07):
That's what I was going to ask you about too,
because the HG. Wells book was from the eighteen hundreds,
eighteen ninety six, I think. And I was wondering and
knew before I brought you on the show tonight. I
was like, you know, Jimmy's a time traveler. There's the
Montaig projects involved. Nothing's off the table at this point
when it comes to you know something, loopers?

Speaker 3 (02:41:28):
Is that what you call it?

Speaker 1 (02:41:29):
Loopers? Time travelers? People that go back?

Speaker 3 (02:41:32):
Looper looper, Well, I've done it. I've done it, go
back and put stuff in the library. You know, the
Wreck of the titan That was Oh, that was a
book wrote about seventeen maybe nineteen years before the Titanic.

(02:41:53):
And we had we had a technician down in Area
fifty one. He was reading a book and my slip
fives walked in one day. He said, hey, what you're
reading there? My man? He said, I'm reading a book
about reck of the tight He said, what's it about.
It's about a ship that its iceberg and it sinks,

(02:42:13):
and uh, and the and the and the and the
technician said, damn. You know, my granddaddy had a bunch
of money in the White Star Line and went bankrupt.
We lost everything. And supervisor he paused a moment. He says,

(02:42:34):
he said, uh, can you get off? Can you get
an inventory of what's on the Titanic, because said, they
need they travel with money. Back then, everybody travel with money.
And so he went and got a computer print out,

(02:42:56):
you know of what was in the cargo home on
the maiden voice, you know, the Maiden Voice of the Titanic,
you know, and it had a bunch of stuff that
was it was in the cargo hale and a lot
of money in the safe, you know, and hell, we

(02:43:17):
was running low on money, so we did a time
jump and we robbed the safes of the Titanic, you know.
But actually that's not the Titanic that sunk. That's the Olympic.
The Olympic had had been hit on its side by
a Royal Navy submarine pierced the side of the ship,
broke I bean and they you know, rivet it back together.

(02:43:40):
But I being kept, you know, getting vibrated. The ReBs
kept knocking out of the I being from the motor vibration,
you know. So they went ahead and changed stuff around,
you know, the signs on the Olympic and Titanic, you know,
see one ship had one ship had one ship had

(02:44:01):
red primer and one had black, and Titanic had red
and the Olympic had had black.

Speaker 1 (02:44:12):
The windows were different too.

Speaker 3 (02:44:14):
Well, there's a few more port wonders. But they're pulling up,
they're pulling up the the black primer. They can't, I
can't explain it. Why ain't the red primer there? You know,
but it's it's common knowledge. And uh, you know over
in London, you know England that you know, they teach

(02:44:35):
you in the schools that they tell the school kids, well,
that wasn't the Titanic that sunk. That was Olympic. Oh
my gosh, so jeh.

Speaker 1 (02:44:44):
A lot of things that we have as like pinnacles
of like our in our history books were like had
something to do with some time travel and people going
back in time and switching things up, and man, it
is just mind blowing. Jimmy, I love this. We can
talk all night. We could, I know, but it's getting late.
I know for a lot of it right this is

(02:45:05):
this has been one of my favorite shows I've done
with you, so we've all my shows are my favorite. Jimmy, Melissa.
I'm so glad that you were here with us tonight. Yes,
thank you for bringing me in again. This is so
much fun, aren't they? I love I love having Jimmy on.
Bring me back anytime?

Speaker 3 (02:45:21):
Yes, please do one next month? You know you want
to do one? We can.

Speaker 1 (02:45:26):
We can start doing these once a month at least.

Speaker 3 (02:45:29):
How would you like to do? How would you like
to do? Texans Chainsaw mask?

Speaker 1 (02:45:33):
Oh god, I don't know that one sounds risky. I
don't know what do you mean? I don't know about
that one either?

Speaker 3 (02:45:41):
Maybe?

Speaker 1 (02:45:43):
Yeah, what what is going on with that is that
that has something to do with mon talk or time traveling?

Speaker 2 (02:45:49):
What?

Speaker 3 (02:45:49):
No, No, we it was a bunch of cattle that
kept being skinned. Oh me delighted and plus corpse. This
would being you know, disturbed from the grapes. We thought
it was UFO situation, but it wasn't. It turned out
to be a you know, a bunch of cannibals but animals.

Speaker 1 (02:46:11):
Oh yeah, it takes a chainsaw mask.

Speaker 3 (02:46:13):
I could tell you the truth, the too true ending
two scarface how he died.

Speaker 1 (02:46:20):
Uh, well, maybe we just don't. Don't tell us now,
Let's hold off until we do a show on it.

Speaker 3 (02:46:26):
No, I wouldn't want to tell it now, but I'm
just saying it breaks it the reason I thought it
would be good. It breaks the routine from all the
space stuff and the and the and the the animal stuff,
you know, the the hybrid animals and such. It it
breaks you can do too too many hybrid animals, and
we do too much time travel. You know.

Speaker 1 (02:46:48):
That would be a good one. Listen, we'll plan on it. Okay,
we'll plan on doing that one next and uh and
so yes, thank you so much Jimmy for being here
and for for sharing everything with us tonight. And yes
I was gonna ask a well, Melissa, thank you so
much for being here. Tell everybody where they can find

(02:47:09):
you and uh and tell us about your organization and
what you have going on.

Speaker 3 (02:47:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:47:13):
Yes, yeah, True Being was again True Beings of Light,
Tude of Healing.

Speaker 2 (02:47:17):
I'm a spiritual channeler and tuot of healer, Reiki master,
psyching medium, high bunotherapist, and I do come with a
nursing background as well.

Speaker 1 (02:47:26):
In emergency.

Speaker 2 (02:47:27):
Gave it up in twenty twenty something, twenty twenty, I think,
But yeah, I'm You can find me on my website
www dot True Beings of Light dot com. And I
have my membership which I have out now called the
Intuitive Experience. We get I get together, I channel all
my meditations, all the move meditations and slash lital events
and meditation Monday and intuition practice nights. So I just

(02:47:49):
love teaching as well and everybody. We all have this
innate using our intuition, and it's just love sharing that
we all need to use this in our everyday lives.

Speaker 1 (02:47:58):
For forever, so many, so many purposes.

Speaker 3 (02:48:01):
We have this.

Speaker 2 (02:48:03):
This actually call it a human trade. It's not a gift,
it's a trade. We all have a Neil Glan, we
all have this. Yeah, so yeah, look check me up.
I do all my meditations. I channeled the message last
night actually too for New Year's I got that out
last night. I'm having issues with Facebook though, it's not
letting me share certain pages, but I shared it out mostly.
But anyways, that's I love channeling, bringing through intel whatever

(02:48:23):
we can bring in.

Speaker 1 (02:48:24):
And I'd love to do more stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:48:26):
I'm sitting here tonight actually listening to something and I thought,
should I win and see what comes up? And said, no,
I'm too engage.

Speaker 1 (02:48:31):
I got to watch this. So I would love to
do something like that one day too. Oh yeah, we
need to bring you on the remote Viewing show one
night too. I would love that. I do remote viewing
targets every Thursday night. I actually switched it up. We
didn't do remote viewing tonight. Yeah we have Thursday night.
We have a remote viewing show here on my channel. Okay, well,
sure to invite me on. We talk about it. We'll
talk about it after the show. How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:48:52):
Great?

Speaker 1 (02:48:53):
Well, and you're also you post a lot on Super
Soldier Talk as well on Facebook and you and James
were also very good friends too, and so yeah, please
go over you guys. I don't know why my stream
yard is only showing it for ten seconds, but true
Beings of Light dot com, True Beings of Light dot com, yep,
I will say, yep. Wonderful. Okay, well, Melissa, thank you

(02:49:13):
again so much for being here tonight. I do appreciate
you co hosting with me, and of course thank you
and Jimmy. Where can people find you if they want
to get in touch with you?

Speaker 3 (02:49:24):
Well, that's a good question because now that James is
not here on how do you feel about if somebody
needs to get a hold of me, they just get
a hold of you, now, don't. I don't do one
on one lectures, So if you're having a personal problem
or you're doing some research, I don't. I don't do

(02:49:47):
one on one. I just when I do something, it's
like what I do tonight. Now I'm not affiliated with Jessica,
but uh if if somebody wants some organization, I am
looking for a corporate sponsor. I'm looking for a corporate sponsor.

(02:50:11):
And uh so, if somebody you know is interested in
sponsoring me, just get a hold of Jessica and Jessica
you know, you can just let me know and I'll
talk with them. But I just want to kind of
point that out.

Speaker 1 (02:50:32):
Wonderful. You guys can contact me if you need to
get in touch with Jimmy, but no personal problem, y'all. Okay,
And you gotta have five fingers like that if you
contact if you contact Jimmy, you gotta have five fingers,
right Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (02:50:47):
The sayer of the law law five finger man.

Speaker 1 (02:50:53):
Said, you have five fingers, you know, That's how they
used to what what I was told, the Native America
would say, uh, hold up their hand and they would distinguish,
they say, you know, when they would do a greeting
to have people show if they had five fingers on
their end because of the the Nephilon hour now or
if they would say something like that, yeah, yeah, because
there were giants they had six fingers and stuff. They

(02:51:15):
wanted to know if you had five or six fingers
on your hand.

Speaker 3 (02:51:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:51:19):
So I've heard that before. Yeah, but but yeah, well, Jimmy,
thank you so much again for being here. Gosh, like
I said, this has been one of my favorite shows
we've done thus far. Okay, and uh, wonderful information. We're
gonna have Jimmy back. We're gonna come back next month, y'all.
And uh and and yeah. I want to thank everybody
for being here before we go tonight. I want to
thank everybody who gave superstickers. I know I was trying

(02:51:42):
to be quiet during the show so Jimmy could talk,
so I didn't say thank you during the show. But
Lisia Fox, thank you so much. Margaret, thank you so much, Engenebb,
thank you so much for the supersticker. Marien and Gus,
thank you for the supersticker. And also a LEAs Tanner,
thank you so much for the superstickers, and for all
your y'all. It means the world to me. And thank

(02:52:02):
y'all for sticking with us for almost three hours. Tonight.
We've gone this little lunch show. It was so good
we lost track of time. And so please come back
and see me on Saturday night. I'll be here on
the hunt, y'all. Come see me ten pm Eastern with
another fantastic show for you guys. All right, well, I

(02:52:23):
guess everybody please stay safe out there. This has been
a wonderful you know. I guess we just learned all
about Vietnam. Tonight, we learned about the war. We learned
about the canal, we learned about the boats. We learned
about the human animal hybrid experiments. It connects some dots.
I hope y'all enjoyed it, and we will see you
guys back here on Saturday night. Y'all have a wonderful night.

(02:52:44):
Please be safe out there. Happy New Year, everybody. Happy
New Year, Jimmy, Happy New Year, Melissa. Here's to a
wonderful twenty twenty six. All Right, y'all, have a wonderful night,
and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 4 (02:52:58):
By y'alls, it's

Speaker 3 (02:53:44):
So, it's

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