Uwharrie: Bigfoot, Dogman, Little People, UFOs & More with Matt Hooper

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Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, good afternoon, everybody. It's the Cryptied Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones.
Thank y'all so much for being here today. Man, We've
got a banger of a show this afternoon. I cannot
wait to get Matt Hooper up here on the screen.
He is in the studio right now. He is with
Carolina Cryptid Field Research Team. He has good buddies with

(01:18):
some of our buddies, David Pardue, Terry Wendell Donard, all
those all those wonderful men over there in the Carolinas.
And uh and Matt was just featured on the Proof
is out there if you guys watched the History Channel
and and heart most of his stopping rounds. I think
when it comes to Bigfoot is around the Uari National Forest,

(01:41):
and so he's got a lot of amazing information and
wonderful evidence and stuff. And we're going to get into
all that today. So y'all buckle up, man, We've got
we've got lots to discuss. And and I wanted to
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to our show today. Now, let's bring Mad up, all right.

(03:54):
Matt Hooper is a Bigfoot encrypted field researcher based out
of North Carolina. He's a member of the Care Carolina
Cryptid Filled Research Team or CCFR. He conducts field investigations
and research throughout the South southeastern US, and Matt was
recently featured on the History Channels. The Proof is out
There with recorded howls and vocalizations in the Ui National Forests.

(04:18):
Probably bigfoot, I would assume, because there's a lot of
bigfoots in Uari. This is a place where I have
not been yet. Uh oh, I forgot to turn that
phone off, y'all. This is the place where I have
not been yet, but we have Matt here. I saw

(04:41):
are y'all. It's always something. I'm gonna wed that ring. Hello, Hello,
and as soon as it finishes, all pull mat up
out of respect for Matt. Y'all. This is my life.
Welcome to the show, mister Matt Hooper.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Hey Matt, I got all dressed up and wearing my
grass squatch bigfoot playing holding a banjo shirt to get
all appropriate considering my line of work.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
You're blue? Is that a bluegrass bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I reckon. My boss buys me these shirts like every
couple of months. I'm like, thanks, but you don't get you.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
We're easy to buy for because just give us some
big foot stuff. I love everything I'm covering. I'm surrounded
by bigfoot in my house right here, my office.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Hilarious. It's either fiddle or bigfoot, because that's you know,
I play my I'm a musician by trade bluegrass and
country music. So yeah, the banjo is appropriate.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I love that. Yeah, you are very musical.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Huh, try to be you know. I teach well, it's
slow right now, but I teach a lot. I do
session work. I play with Little Lorraine Jordan, country grass
out of Raleigh. Uh, and I've been working with her
for several years, which I'm making notes here. I got
a great side note. I need to tell you about something. Uh.

(06:04):
We'll get into when it comes to encounters and other
people telling me that, Oh yeah, people I've known for
years that they find out I'm looking for this thing
and they're like, Matt, I've never told anybody this story.
I got a few of those.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh that's what I want to hear about, too. Well.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
People I've known for years that never told us all
until they found out I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, feel they know they can trust you.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
That's why I'm already getting goosebumps because I can. We
got so much that's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, we do. I'm super excited too. Well, man, I'm
super duper excited. I know we have we have one
of your teammates, David Pardue, who's a good friend of
mine of course, has been on the show many times,
and in my goodness, he's got some fantastic evidence. I
don't know if we talked exactly about it being out
of UI. A lot of it is, not all of it,

(06:51):
but some of it is, and and so I know
you've been there for some of that.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Okay, I'll tell you this story about how I met Purdue.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, tell me I got to hear this.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, this is great. Well, the whole reason I got
in this to begin was about back in twenty seventeen.
I had a really particular low part in my life,
and I was always into science fiction. You know, I
grew up on X Files. My mom made me grow
up on the X Files, so Star Trek things like that.
You know. I was always big into the Locknest Monster
when I was a kid, and UFOs and we were

(07:23):
talking just before about Fort Bragg and what was going
on back then, you know, back in the seventies. So anyways,
I started off as an armchair guy. I think we
all do armchair researcher. You sit there and you read
and you type, and you yeah, expert armchair experts. Yeah,
I was one of those starting off. So I was

(07:43):
just I don't know how I found this. I was
looking around. I found a video by a guy named
Lloyd Pie, researcher out of Florida who passed away from
a very very very fast growing cancer at a young age.
H Tucker, what's that man? So it's Johnny, Yeah, well
he's one. I'll talk about him too that you know that.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know this crazy fella. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
He is legit like out theory at three am in
the morning, like he's awesome himself. But uh no, Lloyd
Pie had an interesting theory about the hominoids. The hominoids,
you know, as far as he goes back to the
australiapithescenes and the Homo heilbergensis. I love the history of man,
the evolution, the evolution versus creation and all that stuff.

(08:29):
Lloyd had a theory called intervention theory, which is basically
aliens made us.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I've heard, I've heard that come from.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That comes from it comes from seeching to one degree,
you know, and the Sumerian if you if you go
with that route, and uh and uh. But in his
books that he wrote, he posted a lot of genetic stuff.
But that's that goes to something else beside this. But anyways,
his explanation of the hominoids and Bigfoot made a lot
of sense to me, and I'm like, that makes okay cool.

(08:58):
So I started reading. I started, you know, I didn't
really know where to go obviously for squatching that comes later,
but reading Ivan Sanderson's The Abominable Snowman book, that's great.
Jeff Melgrim's book, Oh gosh, Lauren Coleman. Does that sound
for me?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Lauren? Yes, I guess I don't know Lauren personally, but one.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Or two of that person's books. Anyways, just reading, and
then on Facebook, you know, I'm doing the keyboard commando
my opinion all this well, so I fell out of
Charlotte invited me to join his private group. So I
joined his group. And you know, on Facebook, you know,
you obviously you got your private groups and nothing gets shared.
And in the Bigfoot world, obviously you don't share people's

(09:40):
stuff without permission. You know, it's like you don't really
give away. Yeah, you don't really give away you know,
your exact spots and things like that. So he's like, hey, man,
so what do you do? I said, Well, I can
I can clean up audio you know, I've got the
time I had sown on in a decent studio setup.
He said, okay, i'll send you some stuff. So he
sends me some stuff. I'm up to four o'clock in

(10:01):
the morning wondering what in the sam Hill am I
listening to? Because it sounds like a monster and if
he watches it, he'll know me who he is. I
won't say his name, but that got me started on
the audio front, because these guys would go out and
leave recorders in the woods for through two or three
weeks at a time, go home, you know, old school,
just listen for hours. Well, you know I've got spectrograph.

(10:23):
I've got an isotope spectrograph software, so I can take
right now, I can take up the six hours, drop
it into my screen, and I can look and see
everything that happens audibly. So say, for example, if I
leave my gifting spot, Oh there's me driving away. Okay,
dead quiet, dead quiet, Okay, there's this, and on the
way form you see spikes. And I don't get too detailed,

(10:45):
but I can see, Okay, something's happening here. Let me
jump to this that's more obvious. But then when I'm
looking at the screen. I know what I want as
far as vocalizations between three hundred and one thousand herts,
that's what I want. I can just look and see
any white spots and I can just go right through.
I can go through six hours of audio in twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Man, that's you're you know what you're the man, dude,
you know, because you know how important that is to
have people that do the audio for all the Bigfoot recordings.
I mean, that is that is very special and I
have so you're going to be in high demand.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
After the show today, well, I started doing a lot
of breakdowns for other people. It just got not tedious,
it just got you know, keeping hard drives. I've got
seven hard drives on my computer of stuff. So I
started doing that for a while, and then I started
working on my own material because okay, and to David.
So these guys took me to some places out in Uari,

(11:36):
in a couple of other spots. So one group we
went up to this one area. We were out at
three o'clock in the morning. That's where I think I
saw the thing on thermal. Myself and two other guys.
We were not going to leave and drive out of
there because of the deer. So this one fella, he's
got a thermal flear, not a scout, a better quality

(11:57):
one than the scout. And we're just kind of sitting
there at which eventually become the gifting site that I use.
And we're just sitting there in the dark, cold. No,
I don't remember. The moon was out, and he's, guys,
I think I got something. Okay, he says, what are
you thinking? You know, I don't know. I think it's
head and shoulders. It's doing this number from a tree. Okay.

(12:18):
So I'm both media and the other fella are sitting down.
This guy's standing up. I stand up. It drops he said,
well it just dropped down, like okay. So after a minute,
stands back up and then I get a hold of thermal.
I'm seeing it, and from if memory serves me, it's
like this, like here's a tree and it's doing the
classic this thing. So and then the other fellah, he

(12:42):
looks through it. He sees it too, and it's probably
two hundred feet back. I think I know where it was,
back behind this one camping area. So we're like, well,
let's rush it. We got it. Let's just run at
the thing. So we go around to try and we
couldn't get through there. Anyways, it backed off and just disappeared.
So that was a cool thing for me, one of
my first trips out. So the very next week, me

(13:04):
and some of the other guys that we call ourselves
the B Squad. We're so green. Yeah, we go out
there and we get a we get a camp site,
you know, this one spot, and then it's myself and
I'll say his first name, Jason, Jason, his brother and
their dog. He brought a pit bull with it. Well

(13:25):
there's a reason for this. This is great. So you know,
we're we're sitting around there at this one spot. It's
I'm wearing all black. We're going to go up to
this one area that people talk about. We're gonna go
at ten o'clock at night. So I'm walking around this
little road up to one of the you know, the
Portagon area, you know, do my business? Come back down,
and David is walking up towards me. I'm like, who's

(13:47):
this guy? So he starts. I forget what he said.
He said, how are you doing? You know, you know
how he talks. I said, oh doing good, sir, how
are you Okay, what you what you guys up to?
And I said, we're gonna go for a hike, he
says at night. Yeah. He goes, you're looking for bigfoot,
aren't you. And I'm saying, great, yeah, okay, obviously. Well anyways,

(14:08):
so he introduces himself and he's like, you want to
see bigfoot, I'll show you bigfoot. So he's what's out
his phone going through stuff and I don't know this guy,
and Terry's with it, Terry and Terry's wife. They were Terry,
he's been on the show to see Terry and I.
I like talking to Terry because he's a video guy.

(14:28):
He's he's more technical sighted too, so he helps He's
helped me out in the past. Anyway. So we're talking
and he's he's showing us some pretty wild stuff, you know,
and and and and he's not even shown me at
the time of the really good stuff, right, obviously met him.
So anyways, he said, he said, and he don't mind
me saying this. He said, I'll tell you what I'll

(14:49):
show you. I'll teach you guys everything I know, as
long as you don't go blab about it on social media. Anyways,
we're sitting around the campfire, and he tells me to
do this one thing or you know, a few little
little tricks or whatever. Anyways about and I recorded all this.
By the way, I have an audio recorder going, So
that recorder is sitting right here on the table and

(15:10):
we're just sitting around the fire and David's standing there
like this to you know, my nine o'clock. We're just
he goes, there's your boy. We're like, what he says,
don't move? There's one right there, and we're like, huh,
I see its eyes reflecting. It's low crawling, it's right
behind you that way. He says, do not point your fingers,

(15:31):
don't do anything, don't react, and we're like, what's this guy?
Who is this guy? Ten seconds later, you start hearing
something moving over here. I'm like, that's interesting. Okay, here's
where it gets weird. The dog. The dog, this massive
pit bull which we never met, is sitting there like that,

(15:51):
squatted facing the fire. He stands up, turns around and
just walks under the picnic table and is just looking
in that direction. Dave it immediately says, watching about ten
seconds that dogs want to give you up that alert.
Ten seconds later, that dog locks up, it starts you know,
you know that that when they're really irritated. He starts growling.

(16:13):
He locks up, and then Jason is like, I think
his name was Dozer the dog hey man. And then
David says that dog sees dog knows it's there. And
we're like, okay, I'm getting goosebumps again because now we're
hearing something moving to all right, we just can't see
anything and we don't have any gear. I didn't know
any gear at the time. David didn't bring any of
his gear. Uh. So the dog is locked there, growling,

(16:35):
and we're just like, this is getting kind of weird.
So he says, Matt, get up with me, don't pluck,
don't flow your flashlight, just follow me to my truck.
So he did have his night vision, his first gen
night vision. So we go over there to this other site.
Terry walks up and I've already talked to Terry briefly
and he's like, man, we got we got something breaking
sticks back behind here. And I'm like, okay, okay, what's

(16:57):
going on. I don't know what's happening. So I'm over
at David's truck. I think the old big old giant
F two fifty he had, and he's showing me just
the equinox and we could talk about some of the
tech stuff too. This his first basic first shin night
vision with a eight to fifty nimeter LED. So we're
doing that for about ten minutes and then the dog
goes ballistic, absolutely and they Jason and his brothers jump up.

(17:21):
They start shining lights at that point, Okay, you three
your light on him. That's at least that's the theory.
Then the back off.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Well and the dog too. Though. Was the dog on
a leash.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Or like, yes, he wasn't a leash. He wasn't. He
did not. Okay, you know when you walk up on
the doll, we walk back over there. I put my
arm down and smelled me buddy, because he smelled me.
You know, he's cool. As soon as David puts his
arm down, this dog lunges at David and Jason ripped
the you know, I'm like, what the Heck's going on?
And David is like, I know this was going to happen.
I knew this was going to happen. That dog is

(17:54):
like anyways, So things started to die down and we
heard some tree crashes that could be anything. And in
the morning I get up and David and I have
talked a lot about some other techniques I've been working on.
For example, I made a hornet cam out of paper mache,
a big old hornets camouflage that I would put a
camera inside.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
You know that is so smart?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, you know it was. My weird thought was, well,
here's what I would do. I would take it out there,
leave it, make sure it's waterproof, let it sit there
for a couple of weeks, then put a camera in it,
you know, cover it with the fish glue or hide
glue that make sure you hide any of the epoxy smell,
you know, using fish well, you know, in.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
A bigfoot doesn't want to go mess around. Nobody wants
to mess around with the hornet's nest.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, but you see here And without getting too off subject,
but yeah, So I met David. We exchanged numbers, and
then he started taking me out to these different places
and everything he has told me to do to a
degree in the woods, has something has happened. Basically I've

(18:57):
had a response or I've had something happen. Can talk
about that, and that's going to be the subject of
some videos I need to do for the channel, but
we'll get into that. I'm sure he may have mentioned
the fern bouquet to you. I don't know if he
did the fern bouquet.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
He has I've heard, I've heard that. I don't know
if we talked about it on the show before, but
I've definitely talked to about the fern bougue.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Everything I was doing at this one particular place and
you wore starting in twenty eighteen culminated. I guess with
that bouquet being left right next to my tent at
eight o'clock in the morning, do.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
You want to tell the audience what the fern bouquet was?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay, okay, okay, long story. Yeah, well we can get
to that. We got time because there's a lot here.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Uh oh yeah, but basically anytime.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
So the audio thing for me was, Okay, I can
break down audio, you know, I can. I can review it.
I've got time. I'm self employed. Basically, I can do
what I want to do, which is why I squatched
during the week. I don't go out there on weekends.
I mean I will, but through the week.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Isn't that full of like tourists and people that want
to go, oh, knock on trees and.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Woo, yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get gosh.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm sorry, R I p too.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
It is funny. It's funny people doing wood knocks and stuff,
and of what I got thoughts on that too, But
it's just you know. But so what I started doing
with the audio was just leaving audio recorders out there
in this one or two areas and get a baseline
figure out is there a rooster nearby? Is there a cow?
Is there a farm to the north? And then I

(20:28):
do that enough that when some odds shows up, Oh
this is different. What is this? Whether it be a footsteps,
rock clacks treat, I've got a recording that I'll put
on the channel of it. At first I didn't think
it was anything. It's probably the third thing that happened.
I went out there to the site. Nothing had changed.
I was like, okay, look, nothing showed up. I was

(20:49):
going to delete the audio. I dropped it. I just
dropped it into the spectrograph for the heck of it.
And about two hours after I left on when I
left the recorder, what was going on? And I'm watching
I see all the spikes on the spectrograph on the
wayfarm side of zoom in and it's like, what is
this and it's here's what it is. Snap snap, whack, whack, snap,

(21:13):
snap on my tent for about fifteen minutes on your tent.
You can hear my tent's got the recorder inside of
it with the LED light. It's my task can wherever
it's at. Something was breaking sticks and smacking my tent.
You can hear the tent wall shaking and it goes on.
You can clearly see it on the spectrograph. It's not

(21:33):
weather related, it's it's snap and it keeps going on.
At the very end of the first section is one
big smash and that tent just goes you know that,
the sound of the fabric shaking, and then it goes
dead quiet. Ten minutes later, snap snap, but not as intense,
and then it just faded out. So nothing was there

(21:57):
out of place, but the audio something was clearly going on.
That's that's one of four things that have happened. But anyways,
if I don't get on a tangent, where do you
want to? Where do you want to?

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, okay, so that started off in twenty eighteen. You said,
is that when you started to go down.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Started, I started getting into the armchair stuff. Twenty seventeen.
I met David in spring of twenty eighteen, I think,
or early it may have been late fall, because I
went up to one spot and you are with him
and a bunch of the guys, Grumpy and those guys.
In twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Of course, you know, I was, you know, we're friends
on Facebook and social media and stuff. I saw your mom.
Your mom is out there camp in too.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
My mom's crazy.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Is your mom into like Bigfoot and stuff? Because will
she inspire you at all to do all this?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I think I inspired her to get to the woods,
but she, well she's been on a health kick for
a couple of years now, trying to you know, because
of everything. And so yeah, she's she goes to the woods.
I mean, she doesn't take any gears, she's not necessarily squatching.
She just camps. But she's out there at Marra Mountain
State Park right now. It's twenty degrees last night.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
She's tough. He's very tough. My gosh.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, Well she's an inspiration then, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, she won't let me saying this pushing seventy and
being in the woods by herself. Oh no, oh, she's gonna.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Hey, that's that's admirable for people like me, will she she?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Oh, it's great. I mean yeah, but uh, you know,
as far as you worry, you know the the I've
learned a lot from the guys before David and then David,
especially the history because you've known him longer than I have.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Speaking. Look, who's in the chat.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I'm sure hold on, let me go to this request.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's David here, and and Don Tart's in the chat
as well. Hey Don, Hey, David, I.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Need to get back down there and smoke a cigar
with Don. Yeh, but yeah, so so yeah, Don's another
one of these guys. When you know I'm still green.
You know, I've only been at this in twenty seventeen.
I've learned. I think I've learned a lot. I've got
a lot of different opinions and stuff has changed.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
But uh, as far as the bone, I'm sorry. I
didn't mean to interrupt you. Are you in the Flesh
and Bone camp or do you believe there's something more
to Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
That's that's a good good way to go. I'm I
originally was like ninety percent flesh and blood. I'm more
down to like seventy just because of the stuff that's
happened when I, you know, met Chris and some of
these other interviews I've done and other audio that I've caught.
You know, well, David's got some stuff he mentioned he

(24:41):
mentioned the lizard Man to you, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
The reptilian. Well, I talk about reptilians all the time
over on my channel. And when you said Chris, you're
referring to Chris Bledsoe. Yeah, yes, And he's the UFO whistleblower.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Because he's he's from twenty minutes south of me.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
So you're you're you're actually friends you know him.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm not friends with him. We've met a few times.
When he has he responds, I've sent him some pictures
and a few things I sent him. I had permission
from David. I sent him an image of the lizard Man. Say, hey,
is this something like what you've been seeing? Because we'll
talk about that too, about the the emblem of the
chest that said his book. We'll get to that. But yeah, yeah,

(25:25):
I'm because of the data that I do as far
as audio, you know, EVPs, I've had to even from
working in recording studios. I'm still having to learn a
lot about frequency resonance, parallax. Well that's that's a video,
all this stuff. So I'm still working the kinks out.
But I like the methods so far because it's it's

(25:46):
unobtrusive as far as you know. That's what Ivan Sanderson
said back in nineteen sixty seven. He says, this is
why I like about David's approach and a lot of
guys is you know, you have the hunter and you
have the observer. The hunter goes out, he's in the woods,
he's got a flashlight and a gun. Any animal will run.
If you're the observer, you sit and stay put, and
eventually it's gonna get curious enough to see what you're doing.

(26:09):
That's exactly what I've been doing, and I've got the data.
Weird crap is that. Yeah. And I had a piece
of wood thrown at me at three thirty in the
morning and I watched it fly up at me. You know,
it's like, okay, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, that's what we always do with all with pretty
much all of my teams. I'm on a bunch of
different I go out with a bunch of different teams
and researchers and stuff, and the best method is just
to go sit there and observe.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
It makes perfect sense. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. And
even he made a few other notes in the book too.
No oils, no, no, nothing. It smells unusual. So whenever
I go to the woods, you know, I'll they I'll
smoke maybe a cigar or something. You know, if we
go to they're used to campsite smells and all this stuff,
so a little bit of cigar smoke won't hurt.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
But yeah, they light the tobacco.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I think it was the tobacco bacon in my case,
cinnamon buns.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Cinnamon buns. I want to I want you to tell
the audience about that, because because because you are is
actually very well known for is it Mike Green? Was
that David's friend that was out there that left the
candy bar that so famously is on video, like in
a night vision video or something that's just bigfoot grabbing it.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, that's Green. I never got to meet Green. He
passed away several years ago, I believe, but uh, you know, yeah,
I've seen that that was a thermal, very expensive thermal
which something else, get something else? We'll get into you now.
Because these things are getting so cheap now, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
They're still expensive for some of us.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Some of us find a payment plan, That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Right, But I mean, you know, the night vision we have, nay.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
The a GM, the precursor to this little guy. He's
only three hundred and fifty bucks and it's actually really good.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
At least I need to know what you got.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
It's still making Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
What is that exactly?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Okay, what do you mean my thermal?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
The three hundred dollars one you just showed.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I think it's the a GM ten. I'll look it up.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, okay, Well, well, the the audience. We have an
audience full of bigfoot field researchers too right now, and
and also dog Manory just cryptid field researchers. And I
know that a lot of people would love to know.
It's Christmas and somebody might Santa Claus might bring one.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I know, Well, the History Channel helped pay for this
thing that I got. I've got a little bit of
money for you know, just for using my property. Basically.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh that's amazing. Yeah, you're just on The proof is
out there on History Channel. That's pretty huge. I did
put a link to the video that you were in
on that show. It's down in the description box. If
anybody wants to watch that, y'all go check that out.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
They did appreciate they did a good job of the
hour and a half interview I did for them, you know,
obviously for the show reasons that take a thirty second clip,
but that's fine. But yeah, as far as as far
as the gear that I use, and you know, I'll
probably bounce around all over the place, you know, and
and I take two recorders to task him d G

(29:15):
I think five X and a little Olympus wherever it's at,
and those little little cheap ones they will record for
twenty four to thirty six hours on two triple A batteries. Really,
so just put it out there, you know, Okay, we're
at so and so's place at ten thirty, you know,
and leave it and go come back the next year

(29:35):
or two days later, download it, look at everything.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
But have the time to do that too.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, it's a lot of gas because for me, it's
a lot of driving back and forth to you are,
which is an hour and fifteen the other places I go,
which we can talk a little bit about and they
did preface this in the show about the state parks,
because I've had a lot of people sending me stuff
for you know, from from state parks, either recordings they've

(30:03):
got or just something that's happened even around here that's
some other local parks.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
That David's got to go back to work. He said, bye, David,
thank you. We're behaving, David, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yeah, but I just got this will be the thing.
You know. This is a gm TM fifteen fifty six.
Just a little guy is great for what I need.
You know, I have worked with higher quality ones of
the AGM and the Flair to three four thousand dollars ones.
They're great, but I'm not going to spend three grand
on the thermal.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But that's good for three hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Or this one here was around six hundred and seven.
This is the first gen. They just released a new
line of the version twos and I think they've got
even a smaller version of this, but this would be
like the second one out of the budget from the
first gin. Anyways, the frame rate, it's what's great about
these your Fleer scouts. The frame waits too slow, so

(31:01):
everything's jittery. This is smooth. Even if I can't see,
you know, half a mile down the road. I don't
need to see half a mile down the road. I
need to see what's around me in the woods, you know,
outside of the campfire. Exactly crazy zoom the default zoom
on this one point five, so I can get pretty close.
I don't have to I don't have to back away

(31:23):
to be able to see something that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's perfect. Well, let's let's go. So I was asking
you about the cinnamon bun, about the and the Mike
Green stuff with with the candy bar. I guess did
that inspire you him having that video and putting that
was it a zagnut bar some kind of.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
It was aaglar bar. And I'm trying to I wonder
if I even knew about Green then, because I jumped
into it, you know, headfirst, into all this people are
talking about gifting and glyphs and bacon leading peanut butter
jars and you know, in the woods and all this stuff.
I'm like, okay, So yeah, when when David explained what
happened to Green, and I was like, okay, let me

(32:01):
try something similar at my place. You know where I'm going.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh honey, huh honey, honeybun action.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well, I was thinking of this. Okay, if if it's
squeaky like sugar, zagnut zagnut sugar, pure sugar. Sugar is
addicted by itself, it's like cocaine. So anything sugar sugary
will be, you will want it. So I was saying, okay,
let's do that and bring some natural apples. So what
I would do is, you know, I would go out

(32:29):
to my spot, set up my whole camp site, make
it look like a campsite, not like it's something odd
that way. If anybody does pass by, they're like, oh,
he's squatching. So no one can tell what I'm doing. So,
you know, see they little experiments. Uh, I go to
the picnic table, put a couple of apples out. I
put you know, for example, if I take two sticks,

(32:50):
make a little X shape, I'll put the apple like
right here, just you know, just to make just see
what happens. So I took a cinnamon bun. I've done
it a few times. Took a cinnamon bun, you know
the wrapper off, took a stick, laid the stick down
on the table, squish the cinnamon butt on top of it.
Squish that thing down. Then I took it. It's silly,

(33:11):
but it's what happened is really interesting. And then I
took two more sticks and made an a shape like this,
squished it all together. Right. My thought was, well, some
people think they say these things love puzzles, or you know,
you're hearing all sorts of ideas. And I said, well,
if the critter comes up, you know it'll be destroy it.
So I'm not sure how many times I did that,

(33:33):
but the night that this walk up happened, so I
set up camp and all that did spectrograph. I didn't
have my night vision. So that night I left and
there's no one there period correction. Actually the night I
set that up, there was a father and son that
could come in. They had never been to this area before.

(33:55):
They were way down here on the other side near
the road, so you could see them, but you could
see the smoke. They couldn't see me. This is important.
They had never been there. They have a dog with them.
So the when I went back and I saw what
had happened, the apple was one apple was totally gone,
The cinnamon bun was gone, but the sticks were pretty

(34:18):
much put back in the same place. I'll tell you what,
and I got I got pictures of this. So the
stick that it was sitting on, I took pictures before
and after. It did not budge right. It was an
exact same spot. This guy was picked up and laid
over like this. This guy was picked up something had
to take a hand push it down and then peel

(34:39):
off the cinnamon bun because the stick it was on
didn't move, which you know, okay, and then it put
this one back in this place and it left the
other one, so it almost like it reformed it kind
of like halfway. I was like, this is kind of weird.
The audio is what's scary. Two hours after i'd leave,

(35:01):
there's nothing, nothing completely quiet except for the what you
heard a little while ago. That audio. This audio was
going off for about ten minutes on the spectrograph. I
look at it, and nine huge steps walking right up
to my table my campsite. Nine steps. Here's the reason why.
It's nine heavy steps. Yes, and he must have covered

(35:26):
I don't know how many yards because you can hear
me walking from two hundred yards away. I'm a big
clumsy thing, and you can tell how far away. I
am so this thing just crunch, crunch, crunch, walks right
out of the table. Never hear it hit gravel. It
picks up and drops an apple, and it starts playing
around with rocks. It starts bouncing rocks off the table.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I'm probably trying to figure out which one is gonna
hit you with. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
It was just like anyways, their dog goes ballistic. That
dog is going nuts. So I'm listening to this, I'm like,
what it's bouncing because remember there's a recorder mounted under
the table on to the four by four two by four,
so yeah, it's picking that table as a perfect conduit.
So you literally hear just playing with rocks. Could be

(36:19):
a person, could not be. The kicker is he does
this for about ten minutes and it never walked away,
no footsteps. WHOA That I can't figure out because the
only way I can do that is if I tiptoe barefoot,
because your shoes on that gravel, your shoes. Same thing
in the leaves, because you could hear it walk up

(36:40):
in the dry leaves, but you couldn't hear it on gravel.
So WHOA. I even did a little experiment. I took
my shir because I was a big guy house three
hundred and fifteen pounds at the time. So I took
my shoes off. I was like, I did a little test.
I walked around, then took my shoes off and just
walked barefoot. You couldn't hear me. So my thought was, well,
something somebody walked up out of their barefoot. Why are

(37:01):
they doing that in the middle of October we got
out there.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh yeah, see.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Where I'm going with this. It's like I can't say
the squatch. It's just the behavior is really strange, and
it didn't go away. It didn't that's me. That's almost
impossible because if us we you have to hear us
walking away, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh man, yeah, well that you know. It's it's kind
of typical bigfoot behavior actually, because we've had instances at night,
like up in the North Georgia Mountains before. I remember this,
where there's been like a flash of light and only
the person like Keith. You know Keith, right, you probably
know Keith. I'm not sure if you've met him or not,
but maybe he'll be sleeping in his hammock. You know.

(37:43):
I always joke around about how I used to always
and I still do put my tent near him because
he sleeps in a hammock. So he's the bigfoot burrito. Okay,
so they'll go get him first before try to get
into my tent. Okay, but uh, but anyways, but he
you know, like there'll be like a fly flash of
light and there'll be a couple of footsteps and that's
all you hear, and all you see are a couple

(38:05):
of footsteps in a flash of light.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
That is So that was the first thing, the first
really interesting thing that happened to me there. Now I've
had night vision out there. I call him George Jones.
Apossum likes to show up, so I know where he's at. Okay,
let's fast forward to met myself and another friend. We're
out there at the same spot, and the campground area
was full. There's campgrounds all over you are. This particular

(38:29):
area is full. But I'm at my normal plate sorry,
normal spot, and nothing is happen. There's people around the
college kids. You know. It's like, okay, we're just going
to hang out. Ain't nothing going to happen to night.
So at three o'clock in the morning, three o'clock in
the morning, myself and my friend. We're the only ones up.
We got our fire going. She's on her phone. I'm

(38:49):
kind of just you know whatever, and I look up. Well,
first I stand up to look around. Everybody's asleep, nobody's up,
it's cold, everybody's wrapped up. Said down my chair and
my tent is to my left. My Paula is behind that,
and there's a drop off here behind you know, this
this piccular area. So I am just sitting there and

(39:11):
this is okay. I look up three times, just at
the foliage, and the third time I look up, a
piece of wood about this big flies over me from
my left side. Oh no, at a high arc and
lands on the right side of the picnic table. I
watched it. When that third time I looked up, I

(39:32):
was like, okay, what is this? So my friend she goes,
she does I said, did you see that? I thought
it was a pine cone at first till I went
and looked at it. I didn't keep it, but yeah,
and then I know. And then then the uh so
that happened, and I'm like, don't move, don't do anything.
And then within ten seconds it sounds like rocks are

(39:53):
getting thrown to the trees. No one's up. I even
stood up after this and look, nobody's up. Just a
piece of wood flying over that. But it came from
the other side of the car. My car. Oh and
I do remember this now, I did have my night
vision on this way. So my theory on night vision
is if you look at a night vision either the
eight fifty or the nine to forty, you can plainly

(40:15):
see it if you have an IR cut filter I think,
or if you remove the cut filter. Well, I'll get
too technical. So anyways, if that was one of them,
it came from the office side, so he probably just
see the light.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, those IR lights. Yeah, it kind kind of gives
things a way. That's why it's really good that you're
you're camouflaging your cameras and stuff and those hornets ness.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
See, that's why Thermal to me is gonna be the
way to go. I mean, we talked about David's lizard Man.
That thing's invisible except on Thermal, and we released a
rough version of it on the channel. We're gonna I
the video is made. I got to get his monologue
because he's got to explain everything. Oh yeah, it's ready
for us to post. I just got to get over

(40:57):
there and get him to record it.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
A lot a lot of these things are only visible
through thermal. A lot of stuff like the portal. We
had that portal incident, David. David was the first one
to notice the portal actually at at the meadow.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Oh yeah, okay, in the meadow.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Okay, that's the undisclosed location meadow.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Make sure there's one of the two meadows that okay,
but yeah, so yeah, it was like I had a
funny thing. Oh oh, did David tell you? And this
is one thing that's interesting too about observation. David, I
didn't know this. He's a I hope you don't mind
me saying this. He's got a degree of color blindness.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
He does. He's talked about it on the show before
we are Fully he said that everything is gray.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
A lot of stuff is great. That is interesting because
I've been in the woods with him and he's seeing crap.
How'd you see that? How'd you see?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
He got? Yeah, he has built in a night vision.
I think it's it is.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Crazy like we were, you know, we're going down a
trail somewhere and you worry just walking up marble, marble,
there's marbles stuck down in the bark of trees. How'd
you see the marble?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yes, a superpower.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
We went to an area, another air in Charlotte, another spot,
and we're walking to the field and he's like, oh look,
I was like, what there's a somebody had hung their
dog's green collar off the tree right above our heads.
You see that? But yeah, and then David's just David
is just interesting all around. But he's probably.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Laughing right now. No, he's back, he's back at work.
He'll watch this later.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah. So where were we.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, we were talking about the I R. We were
talking about the wood getting logged over your head that morning.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yep. Okay, that was that was two or three yep.
And then okay, so we culminated, let me go ahead
and see if I can send you this or screen share.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
That's right, yeah, screen Sharet, I think sure.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I can do this right hold on screen and this
is just one of the let me do this share
a screen.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
That I want. While while you're pulling that up, I
do have one question in the chat from Amber. I
have a bunch of questions actually, but I just saw
Amber because she put it in all case. Sorry, has
anybody tried music. If so, how does Bigfoot respond to it?
If you guys played music out there before.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I've tried, multiple times, I've recorded, I've gone out there
and played guitar and fiddle in the dark, just just
to you know, see if anything, what happened. This is
a side note. There's another park some of my guys
and I go to, or not my guys. They're teaching
me where. They've got a Civil War soldier on thermal.

(43:42):
What looks like a Civil War soldier on thermal. He's
standing there, the hat, the gun, the upper body. It's
a cool looking picture, cool thermal show. So I thought
maybe I should go out there in the middle of
the night and play some old Civil War tunes and
just put a recorder out and just see if any
any weird vote comes out, set up.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Your thermals and get it from every angle. That would
be so cool. Thank you, Amber. That was a great question.
She was asking about drums. Drums drums be interesting. Matt
is more of a string instrument. Fella, y'all, okay, right,
you probably do drums to if you're beautiful.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
I don't have that much rhythm.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Oh my gosh, I love that, and I want to
say thank you to Marine and Gus. Thank you, she says,
get some big foot burrito for me and Gus, thank
you for that supersticker. Marine. That's so sweet.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Appreciate sounds great. It does all right. Now once again
you know the story behind this. So I was out
there on a Friday. Terry Wendell was there. Uh, there
was a bunch of other other squatchers that were new
to the area, and they're like, we're going to run

(44:53):
and they're being all hoot and holler and only they're
gonna run out the woods and look for bigfoot. I
was like, guys, you don't really have anyways, this is interesting.
But so we were out there for five days. I
rented a cabin near this area. For two of those days,
I was out there with a friend and we were
just doing un normal thing, you know, recording, hiking all this.

(45:13):
So Sunday, everybody heads out, Okay, okay except for me
and my junk, all my stuff. So so that Sunday Monday,
so everybody's gone. I've cataloged, I've reset everything. I've got
my car, yes, I've got mine. Paula far away, so
there's no one there. I'm okay with leaving it far away.

(45:35):
I've got my first gen night vision on an armature
inside the car, mounted to the visor. It's sticking out
of the window like this. I've got it connected to
a TV so I can kind of tune it because
you know, a big guy can't move aroundside the car,
so it's recording all night. Those equinoxes will record all
night on a battery pack. I've done it all right,

(45:55):
so it's staring right there. Okay, So she and I
leave probably about ten o'clock. Oh, I did this first.
I did this first. This was a former relationship, so
this is important. And I went down to the near
the bottom of the kind of a creek bed area
in the dark, and I just kind of held her
like this. I said, because you know, according to the
people in u Are, they know where you are just

(46:17):
about anytime. You're out there for about thirty minutes in
the dark, and she started to get creeped out. I said, good.
So so we checked everything. I said, all right, no
one's here. Everything since good to go. Went to the cabin.
Come back seven o'clock in the morning. Let's see nothing
looks out of place. Right. I go to my car

(46:38):
the impaula. I get the night vision. I double check everything.
I'm like, okay, I grabbed the quarters, but I left
everything else as it would be. I mind you, I'm
also checking for tire tracks and everything else, you know.
Go back to the cabin. I go through the video.
A possum came up. Got one apple. I may have
got an ORB because it's due in this. It's pure

(47:02):
white see through and it goes out of frame and
then back in the frame like.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
This just turns on.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
But I haven't done much with that yet, so okay,
so I'm seeing everything. Okay, nothing has happened. So I
pack up the car, but all my gear is still there.
We're gonna come right back. We're gonna do some photography
stuff because we're both into photography. So I go out there,
I drive in and she's over here. I'm walking and
she goes, watch out, and I said what And I
tripped over it and it was this bouquet and I

(47:32):
have more pictures than this, but that's the best one.
And it was laying next to my tent, between the
tent and the camper, on the sorry table near the
camping table, and I kicked it over. I flipped it,
so this is it flip back, but you can see
it's all twisted up and it's laying there on nothing
but gravel and old dry leaves. There's no reason for

(47:54):
this to be there, and it was not there because
I have video of the spot it was at. It
wasn't there. So this was placed between the hours of like,
I think I have to go back, about eight o'clock
and nine o'clock we left, something dropped this and we
come back. I'm like, what's going on here? So I
called David and Terry and they're like, naturally, David's going

(48:17):
to second what You've been going there a lot? Man,
It probably knows who you are.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
You know, and that Bigfoot is a mister. Take your girl.
Bigfoot is what that is. They're trying to grid.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Because I've looked at this. I looked at it heavily
that day. I probably should have would have fallen apart
by now, but broken off it and twisted together. It's
I don't know, it's fascinating up there. When I left
and nobody was in.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
There, that's awesome. You know. Bigfoot Dwarf was in the chat.
That's my friend out of he lives in California. Actually
he's a bigfoot out on the West coast. He said
that he found a bouquet like that as well, when
it had a ribbon wrapped around it.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Really, he said, see these are you can see how
these are twisted in that center part. It would not
fall apart. I can make it up with by one
strand it wouldn't fall apart.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
It was, Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's fantastic. Did you
take it home?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Now? I probably hindsight, I probably could have vacuum sealed
it or something.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But you could have used him by now I've got
I've got this.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I got this photo and several others of it on
the ground before even picked it up, you know, so
and I don't. That was just strange, very strange. And
now that I've done this enough, I'm not scared to
go out there anymore by myself. You know. I'll be
in the woods to sit there as long as a
cat or bear don't walk up. But that's that's where

(49:38):
it's culminated. So far. I've yet to really since COVID happened,
I've had yet to really get back out there and
do what I've been doing. But I've got some other
stuff that's been happening as far as other areas.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Uh, so that's Uari. So you you go to other
places too, right? Or do you mean like other places
in Ui?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Other places? You know several places in Uari? Uh, some
local state parks. I've matter of fact, my friend who's listening,
she was telling me I mentioned the dog man she
wanted to So, okay, okay, this is more synchronicity. This
is more things being caught in. Okay. So you know
the Parker's Parker's bigfoot, Yeah right, Sam Parker. That's over

(50:19):
at Coume Knock right, twenty five minutes from my house.
I did not know this. I did not know that
there was supposedly a bigfoot, been there for thirty years. Okay, Okay,
So what David tells me, I'm like, what I've been there?
I know, I've kayak there. Okay. So you know, did
he tell you the story what happened to him there?
Him and Johnny the other Johnny?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
He probably did, but I don't know on his.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Truck door and swiped his door. Yeah, tell you that story. Well,
he sent me that audio, you know, you know, and
it's it's rough because he had to his computer was dying,
so he had to send a rough second gin copy
of it. Anyways, it's clear, Yeah, you can hear this
thing on his door and it's playing his day and
then it's dead quiet, and then or like a And

(51:06):
then David got a picture of the hand right there,
the mark the condensation on the door, so that's right
down the road. And then my friend Deanna, who's listening,
she starts telling me about one of her friends who've
been seeing dog Man six miles away past three years,
really not even six miles away, and they know nothing

(51:28):
about Parker's they know nothing about it. And him and
her friend and several others have said, we've seen a
seven eight foot tall thing picking pulling peaches off a tree.
Dogs nag, Yeah, yeah, the peaches, apples, apples, she sings, apples.
Did it run through and it would just tear down everything?

(51:49):
You know? And they don't know anything about Parker. So
I'm thinking, WHOA, Because I've already looked on the map.
I said, Okay, the railroad track runs through there, deep
river runs through there, what does that mean? And you
run into a lot of this, You run into a
lot of this stuff. For example, I was speaking of
you know Uar. I played a show, a gospel show

(52:12):
the other side of Charlotte. I forget exactly where it
was at now, but we were doing our last song
and I got to drive back through u Are to
get home, you know, two o'clock in the morning. So
we were doing a cappella song. I don't sing. I
was backstage talking to the host of the host of
which is a preacher. He was the pastor of the
church we were at, and we're just chit chatting. You know.
He doesn't know I do anything about Bigfoot. He didn't

(52:33):
know my name, really, and I'm like, yeah, man, I
gotta drive home. Then I got to go through yu
Warre and all those deer, and I was just like this,
I gotta worry about deer. And he goes yeah, and
other things like what do you mean UFOs? I said
UFOs and he just said no, no, no, he said
Matt he said or whatever he said. He said no.
Me and some buddies were hunting out there a couple
of years ago. We were driving back through u war

(52:56):
and this thing walked out in front of us, and
he had he was eight foot tall and black hair,
and we all saw it and it looked at us.
We threw its lights on it. Yeah, we are lights
on its face. And this guy doesn't know me from
Adam funny enough, he's a preacher and he's I'm like okay,
and he said, we've never gone back. He said, they
saw it. It scared him. They drove home. They never

(53:16):
going back to you worry And this guy doesn't like
I said. Another example of this, I was at a
recording studio in Virginia near actually just north of Mount Airy,
and the recording engineer is very cool guy. We're talking
about bigfoot and he goes, you're looking for bigfoot. I'm
like yeah. He goes, I have a story for you.

(53:37):
So he starts telling me about a friend of another preacher.
He said, I got this buddy, I think is he
thinks he's got bigfoot on his property, but he can't
tell anybody because he's a pastor. And I asked, I
asked the guy, so what what he's he's giving me
this information. I'm not even asking for it. And he goes,
he said, he said, there it's bay. It's throwing rocks
at his house and is taking grain and stuff out

(53:59):
of this horse barn. But leaving piles of rocks there
on the.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Steps for payment exchange.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
And he says he's finding these huge footprints. Well, I
found this pastor who's also a musician and this couple
of years ago, and we chatted about he sent me
the audio that he cut from his living room of
this thing. I mean, like a it's like a classic
Ohio yell and the dog. His little dog is just
going nuts. It's right outside his house. And he's like, man,

(54:28):
I'm just used to it at this point.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Oh wow, I run into that all the.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Time in my field of work, because you know, okay,
another example, uh, one of my one of my bandmates Alan, Yeah,
he's gonna let me do an interview with him. When
I told the band I was doing this years ago
at we were at the Willow Oak Festival in you know, Roxburgh.
I'm sitting around a campfire, you know, I'm like, I
want to tell my friends I'm looking for bigfoot. So
I start talking about this one area. Alan, who's sitting

(54:56):
across from me, goes. He sits up and he's like, Matt,
you're talking about so and so I'm like yeah. He's like,
I've never told anybody this Alan starts, Allan's a straight,
straight Christian place, dude. He will not know. He goes,
We're out, me and a buddy. We're in the horse
ranch of this particular state park area, all right, November

(55:19):
twenty sixteen, and uh actually has more recent than that.
But he he said, Matt, I was in my camp
in the back of the trailer. The horses were in
the corral, you know they have the big mellow corrals
and some of the state parks or the horse of
the equestrian side, And so him and his buddy were
in their sleeping bags in the back of the horse trailer.

(55:41):
Four o'clock in the morning. He's laying there. He just
wakes up. He just wakes up, staring at the ceiling.
He said, Matt, something on two legs walked right out
of the woods up to our trailer, he said, with intent.
He stood up and he mimicked. He said, crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch,
And it paced his trailer for about ten minutes so
he could hear it walking around, no flashlights, nothing, And

(56:04):
he wakes his buddy up. They don't have any guns.
Wakes his buddy up and say, hey, man, I think
something's here. So they both listened to this thing walking
around he said, clearly by people, clearly, almost stomping heavy,
and then he goes away. They never walked away, he
just went quiet. First light, they threw open the door.
Nothing's there. And that's at another spot. I know, I

(56:27):
know where a lot of stuff has happened. It's just it.
It's the same area. This was at the North Park.
This was that is that a state park. But this
is at auquestrian side compared to another side. But it's
all part of it. Yeah, and he didn't know.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Well, man, it's almost like they were expecting something to
still be out there when there was nothing there because
they never heard it walk off. That is that's got
to be totally just mind blowing to Stormy.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
And that's what blows my mind. As far as the
audio stuff is. I've tried tiptoeing away. I've tried measuring
my own distances because at my six foot at three
hundred pounds at the time, you know, I had to
try all these different cross references of audio. So when
the thing walked up whatever it was, walked up to
me to my side, he covered some ground and nine

(57:17):
steps I can't do because you can I can simply
compare the volumes, you know, if there's anything in my size,
he's covering a lot more ground than I did. It
takes me thirty steps to do nine of his because
I tried it, tried duplicating it.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, well, you you're you have to pay attention to
stuff like that too, because when you're analyzing the audio
like you do, you gotta know links and measurements and
all that kind of stuff and like.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
And all that, and that leads us into the wood knox. Okay,
so uh, I don't think they're necessarily wood knocks. I
think there's something in here, just because when I was
studying Neanderthals and whatnot, and howler monkeys, particularly howler monkeys,
studying the ioid bone, you know, and and the lungs

(58:06):
and the and the sacks and the lungs for grill.
It's little things like that. And the knocks that I've heard,
I've never at where I go, and you were never
recorded a knock unless people were doing it. I've seen
people other campers get wake till they're fire around and
they go bang on a tree. Right. So the knocks
I heard at this one area traveled probably a good

(58:29):
quarter mile, but clear as a bell, like wood on wood.
But there's nothing there. It's thirty degrees that night, it's dead.
Nothing's there. So what happened was when me and my
friend from Charlotte went out there. We're carrying equipment battery,
a big old marine battery and stuff into the field.
There's a field rat and about eight o'clock we both

(58:52):
walk in. I hear a knock. Well I thought was
a knock, just a just a you know, you know,
two pieces of wood being hit together. I was like,
did did you hear that? He's like, what I think
I heard? Knock? Okay, We walk out of the field,
walk back into the field. Another knock. He heard it.
He's like, yeah, dude, that's one of them. Oh, because
they've got that at that time, they had already recorded

(59:12):
these knocks, and I've got a lot of those recordings.
So we sit there. He's got a thermal, I've got
four thousand looms, I got a big flashlight, and we're
just going to sit and chill, you know. So the
night starts at ten o'clock. There's two knocks back to back.
One of my twelve o'clock, one of my seven o'clock.
That's when I thought, oh, these are not gonna be

(59:33):
these are this is something up here because I won't
get the two D detail why, but that's what I'm thinking.
So it's all quiet except for the normal you know,
Fox out there, here, Kat out there, you know, gunshot.
And then at four forty five in the morning, around
four point thirty, I think we hear what sounds like
a bulldozer coming through the tree line for about ten seconds,

(59:58):
followed by se knock. We're like, okay, and it's that
directly the north side of where we're sitting. I can
almost hear where I think it's going. Ten minutes later,
like just coming closer, followed by a knock. It does
this three or four times. Okay, and at the very

(01:00:20):
end it sounds like it's right there. I said, I said,
I told him, I said, why don't you do a
yell and I'll I'll throw on my light. I got
four thousand lumins. It'll light up the whole thing. So
he stands up and goes a whoop. You know, within
five seconds you hear crunch, crunch, crunch, and we're sitting
there like, what the F is this? Light it up?

(01:00:43):
I put four thousand lumins on it. He's got his thermal.
Nothing's there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
It's like you're like the sun out there. It's like
that's a lot of lumins.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
It is. And I've got I've got something three times
its powerful that other hobby is buying. But nothing's there.
And we walk right up to the tree line and
there's nothing. And this is this isn't the winner. Everything's dead.
You can see all the what you can see hundred
yards back in there on thermal. There's nothing, nothing moves,

(01:01:14):
no deer. But you know, I've got recordings of these knocks,
and I've got a theory. I can't go into it
because I haven't tested it yet.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
So but it's like they went invisible. I mean, is
this where you were kind of thinking, well, okay, I
thought these were flesh and bone, but now there may
be a fact.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
It's the fact that these things, how do I describe it?
The weird stuff that's happened to me. Like I was
sitting at my gifting site one time, I'm just sitting there.
This is actually the day I met Grumpying. Those guys.
I'm over at my place. They're over there at the
other place and I'm just sitting there literally eating a
bold egg and my left ear picks up like four

(01:01:55):
foot stomps like that. I'm like this, what was that? Okay, nothing,
I'm just sitting there wait for a text from David,
and then right here to my left ear and stereoscopes,
you know, you can tell when something's coming from one
Saturday there right here, bam bam bam bam. I'm like
something stomping. I jumped up out of my chair. I

(01:02:15):
look around. I'm like, what the heck was that. I'm
the other one here and it's twelve o'clock in the afternoon.
That was weird. I didn't have any recorders going or
nothing but plain this day. Just a weird stomping right
here to my left, and I'm like, the sucker is
not visible. See That's where I get a little off,
you know, them going in visible. But I'm not gonna
knock it. I just I've not seen anything like that.

(01:02:37):
I'm not obviously, I've not really seen it. My whole
purpose is to once I see the thing, Oh, I
don't know what's going to happen. I'll probably just disappear
and just get a real job. Part of my life
is done. But but anyways, it's been really interesting. I

(01:02:58):
see a lot of guys send me recordings of knocks.
Some are legit sound like what I believe in knocks.
Some are gunshots, door slams. You got to take all
that stuff into account. Oh, you know, but the knocks
that I've heard, they do sound like and recorded they
sound like wood on wood.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
It does to me, though I've heard so many. I've
heard a lot of knocks in the woods in all
my days and in all my years out there. But
I think that it's a tongue click. I am convinced
it's a tongue click or something. Somebody in the chat
said hand a hand clap. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I mean that's what I thought of too. But yeah,
I can't. I can't explain my theory yet because I can't,
I can't do it until we actually got to field
test this. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
David Pardue and I we've had this conversation because I
asked him, you know, we're talking about some things and
we're like, well, we're you know, he's ninety nine point
eight percent sure that it's a big foot. And in
some cases, like when we're having a conversation about something,
and so that's kind of what it is. With like
the tongue clicks, I think it's a tongue click. But however,
I've never seen a bigfoot click their tongue like that

(01:04:04):
with me watching their mouth, you know what I mean.
So I don't know. I don't think any of us
will ever. I don't know. It's not that we never know,
but we just theorize it, you know what I mean.
It's just a theory.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Okay, Well, here's here's what I'll leak this a little bit,
so I leak it my theory about the knocks. I'll
just say this, the ones I heard are all the
same pitch every.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Time every time. Wouldn't they have to be a little
bit different depending upon how big the trees are if
they're hitting a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
No, right, But I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Mean everybody's going to have a different sound in their
mouths because everybody's mouths are different.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Right, true, unless it's the alpha.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Unless it's always the alpha.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Uh, well, well we're getting we're getting out of a tangent.
I have yet to test this, and I can't say
too much because I don't have the permission to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
That's cool though, Well, but it's but it's interesting, you know,
and and you, being an audio specialist, I can't wait
to hear whenever you finish your research on that. If
you ever finish it, it's always all going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I know, if I had if I had the gear
that I need, and I went to this area, and
if those well, if what happened I think would happen,
it would be flipping awesome. But I'll probably never happen
again because I think I think there are a lot
of people out here. I think there's a lot of
places where I'm saying it like it's real. I've never

(01:05:30):
seen it. I can't bone if I say, you know,
come on, but me too. Crap. I lost my train
of thought. Uh, where was that going?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Well, you were talking about well, you don't really have
permission to talk about what could be, but you might
want to go out and do if you had the
right equipment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yes, because because I think there are places that they know,
they don't know we're looking for them. I've been sent audio.
I'll go ahead and say this one. This is another
audio I was sent uh from from the some of
the same group of guys. I don't think he might
be talking about it where he left a recorder was
left in the tree mounted inside of PVC pipe right right.

(01:06:10):
Long story short, this thing walks up after they leave,
huffing and puffing and mad. You can hear it. It
takes the stick, shoves the stick through the chicken wire
because it's chicken wire on the end right, so the
rain water and all that will call it. And it's
is kind of at an angle, so it's raining, and

(01:06:32):
it walks up and it starts shoving the stick through
the chicken wire, trying to pry out the recorder. And
his mouth is right here. It's grip, growling and mad.
After about two minutes of this, you hear it smacking
the recorder and everything. It gives up. He goes, let's
go of the stick, steps back. You hear a tree

(01:06:53):
lamb sh because all the water falls off. He just
huffs and puffs and walks away. So when this person
went to get the recorder, the stick was still shoved
in there. How are you going to do that unless
you yeah, yeah, and his they're that that that huge nostril.

(01:07:14):
I can't even do it well, shooting boogers everywhere, mad,
mad and growling, and it's the record is seven foot
off the ground. I think so, because that's how he's
doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Oh my god, that's fascinating that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
See those guys I don't go out that, don't go
out there much because they're they're doing a great job.
They've got it, you know. But that's that's a wild spot.
But I won't I won't talk about it. But that's
one of the thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Yeah, that's a great piece of evidence.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Okay, as far as evidence, here's something else I talked
about on the History Channel. You know, as far as
social media. AI.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Oh god, it's ruining everything, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I know it's going to be so hard. I mean,
look like David's lizard Man video. He's that ten years
you know before AI. So I mean, you know, people
going to try and say, oh this is no, it's not.
But a lot of this other stuff you get on
Facebook and these silly influencers are making these you know,
night vision you know, videos of trolls and oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
I saw I saw one of Somebody sent me a
big foot in a dog man tussling and said tussling.
Somebody last week didn't know what tussling meant. Who was that?
I was on somebody show tussling. What is that? They
were you know what tussling is. They were tussling and
they started rolling down a hill and I was like,
that is so fake. But it's cool. It's still cool,
but it's still kind of it's fake, and people are

(01:08:37):
believing it's real and they're sending this stuff to me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Well, can you let me see if you can play
this because I know you've got to leave.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Oh oh yeah, oh yeah, okay, no, no, that's sorry. Okay,
I'll tell that back down.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I try this woman. Okay, that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
We can hear it from here here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Well, you might just be bleeding over. Let me do this. Well,
see this is the this is one audio clip. I
don't know what the heck it is. I've compared to
compot Coytes, deer Bear well bear aren't very vocal. But
let me see here. Oh oh, I am sharing my screen. Okay, okay,
here we go. So this this was going on ten

(01:09:17):
minutes before whatever it was walked up to my tent.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
I think I still have the fern up here? Is
it the fern? Oh? You are you just going to
play it? Your fern was still up there?

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I got you? Here we go, Yeah, wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
That's right, Corey is wrestling. Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
I missed those days.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Of wrestling and tussling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I try this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Here we go, Yes, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
This is this is on the channel. This is just
one I got h I forgot how good this is.

(01:10:24):
Keeps going on and then within five minutes of that
audio ending, something walks up to my tent. Oh really,
see that keeps going. That's one minute and a half.
But it kept going. I don't know that's I've heard
this before.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
That's not a code. It's not a bear, it's not
a fox. I don't know what it is. That's I mean,
that's all I can say. It's just it's interesting that
this has happened. This isn't this happened right the night
of the walk up. Let me in this here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I'll take that down.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
But you know, there's I got a lot of stuff. Okay,
here's something else. The people in you are it might
be interested in this. So you know, I've caught this yell.
Not this yell. There is a howl I've caught three
times at four am in the morning on the dot,
just one one long howl by itself, followed by a
callback way off in the distance, but only at four o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Well, that's probably what the parents calling their kids, all
the children.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Because it's not a coul be. We have red wolves
that are dire wolves, not dire wolves. It's just one
howl and I've got it two or three times consistently,
and another response behind it, and then everything dies. Everything
dies at four o'clock. Yes, it's weird. That is that

(01:11:47):
is really I got to find that because it is
just one howl, but it's and see it's never any
other time of the night, only four. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Yeah, there's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
That's sorry, there's I got guys sending me stuff from
other places is very similar. And as matter of fact,
one of the guys on here early you know, Tucker,
you know Stephen Barcela, he got the one on thermal,
the whole body that's at the museum up there Littleton.
Uh huh have you seen that one?

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
He got the it's it's they got it twenty twenty.
I think I think it was. No, it's up there.
It's a it's a fleer shot. The story was that
they were at their area and they hear something, but
it was the cheap Fleer. So he was just doing
single shots like this, went out looking just kind of
doing this number and bam, the whole side profile, The
whole body's right there up a cliff from them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Man, that's awesome. You know, before we go today, before
we went live, I'm always fashionably late to start my
shows because I get I get to talking with my guests. Okay, y'all,
So I apologize for being two or three four minutes later.
Sometimes we were talking about, uh, you know, I lived
pretty close to Fort Benning and I used to live
down it. I went to I went to Georgia Southern
University down by Hinesville where Fort Stewart is, and we

(01:13:05):
have a lot of cryptid sightings and reports. I have
people I personally know who have had encounters with bigfoots
on these military installments, military bases. Well you you're up
there at Fort Bragg and I've had a lot people
tell me there's a lot of bigfoot and other crypted
maybe dog man activity around around that area. Do you
do you think there's some kind of connection to the

(01:13:27):
military in our government with some of these cryptids.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Yeah, Well, so the whole thing that I talked to
you earlier about with Camp La June and Brag. So
the UFO thing is what my mom, my mom was
into back in the day when they had all these
sightings in Fort Bragg, Fayevel spring Light back in the seventies,
they were in the newspapers, so my mom kept all those.

(01:13:53):
Now Camp Lajune, you know, reading about encounter sasquatch encounters.
I mean, that's old stuff, like I haven't looked at
it a while. But see, with Bragg, we've got I'm
so used to seeing all these planes fly over. I've
got five C one thirties F sixteen's, we got the
war dogs now, I've got them all. I got them
on thermal. So you know, we're talking about the UFO stuff,

(01:14:15):
which that was what we were talking about with the
orbs and whatnot, because I know you got to go.
But well we were disgusting. Was these whatever these things
are that I've been seeing over here at her property
and over off the Cape Fear River. They don't show
up on thermal planes do I can literally see. I've

(01:14:35):
already I've recorded planes, a bunch of them on thermal.
And then there's this blue thing and it's it disappears
when the flame flies over and comes back and keeps going. Yeah,
and I've seen them on binocular so they're clearly not
that high. But they don't show up on thermal, not
even a cold weird because else everything else up there
is going to generate heat. Even a drone those electric

(01:14:56):
motors generate.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Do you think it's some kind of technology? I mean,
because listen, I am like such a skeptic. I've seen
so many UFOs, I've from UFOs, cryptids, whatever, I've experienced
it all right, I've even seen ET's up close before. Okay,
but I just I'm so skeptical, especially being over like
a military base. I'm thinking, like it's gotta be some
kind of like human government project or something.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I've looked at that brag because Braggs never had any
kind of history, you know, like Dulls or Area fifty one.
Braggs never really had a cool story attached to it.
I don't think I like bab Lazaar in Area fifty one, you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Know, yeah, exactly, I don't know. But North Carolina, the
mountains up there, we got the brown mountain lights, all
sorts of I mean, you're you're in the right in
the heart of the Appalachians. Okay, so up there, so
I don't know. I have thoroughly enjoyed this today. By
the way, Matt, thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
There's so much more stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
But yeah, I mean, you're just gonna have to come back, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I've got some I want to head up to Jefferson National.
I got some clinic connections up there for a few days.
I think after January we're gonna go up there and squatch.
Uh just I got a place to stay, go up
there for about three days, then we come around, do
a loop, come back down to Charlotte, come back through,
go to your take like a two week run, and
just record everything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Oh yeah, take your thermal, take your fiddle out there the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
Whole nine yards. All I need is a few other
little things for gear for call blasting. But that's it.
But I've got everything, you know, everything I need. I
think as far as I've whittle all my junk down
to a small set of set of equipment, so I'm
not crying everything with me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Oh my gosh, that's like me too. The longer you
do this stuff, the less the less you're gonna take
with you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Probably, Yeah, all I take now is two recorders, thermal
battery pack, flashlights. I don't need to take radios and
you know, solar panels and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I know that's like me too. I am I am
the tool out there. I know that sounds weird, but well,
go okay, no good okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
And I'm just thinking I need to sit down and
get these videos because I'm going to do a review
on the thermal. Uh you know, the thermal that I've
got for what I use. Uh you know, as far
as our mythology or method methodology, yeah, you know. And
uh and and I need to do a video of
the breakdown of what happened there with the fern. That's
just gonna take a while because it's a lot of details.

(01:17:26):
There's people people send me stuff that I can't share,
which is great. It's just twenty years from now what
it's going to be like. You know, I'm gonna have
all this stuff and like just lock it away in
a lock box somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Oh, you got to do something with it too, I
don't know, or pass it down to the just keep it,
keep it with something. Yeah, you need to make a
documentary for sure. Uh, well you know what I mean.
I've had people that have asked me, I know you're
I know you're busy, okay, but I know I've had
I've had several friends of mine that are like, hey,
do you know anybody that can break down this audio

(01:17:58):
or clean this up? And I'm like, I don't know.
I think I do know Matt Hooper, but I don't.
I've never seen you anything. But but do you do
that kind of stuff for people sometimes? Or do you
just kind of keep it heres?

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Send me a lot of stuff because I kind of
know his area, so I know, okay what I'm listening for.
If it's not like forever long. But the longer the
file is, though, is usually better. Some people will just
send me a three second clip of a knock. There's
no I don't know what this is supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
There's no context here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
People do is there? Get rid of the bugs in
the rain and get rid of some of the frequencies
and boost the game. That's really all you do is
just you know, you got cicadas or whatever to ten
thousand hurts or something. I can just erase those and
clear it up so you can hear what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Man, I need to send you this this video so
you can take out that phone ringing in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
It was a funny side note. I did this a
long time ago. You know Mark Lincolnship from Cascade Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
No, I don't think was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
The one he got pretty well known. When he was
walking he had the big red truck behind him and
the doors open. The squatch was standing next to the tree.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
No, I haven't seen this. Check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Disappear from YouTube. I've messaged him a few times. I
broke down one an entire video of his once really
and yeah, he's hearing something. I mean, I look at
it on spectrograph. I'm like, right there, there's something. Oh
another thing I have not yet encountered in for sound.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Don't Oh I have, you don't want to?

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Well, I mean as far as seeing it, because if
infra sound is twenty hurts some down my recorders will
pick that up. Oh on audio.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
I've been hit with him for a sound and I
got really sick.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, you see blanket Ship. There was one video he
did where the he was he walked to a new
area and he got hit with it and he was like,
He's like I hit. I felt a thumping my chest. Well.
I looked at the video and you can see it.
It starts. You can see the pounding and it was
two hundred hurts down, so it's like that's what he

(01:19:56):
was hearing. You can see it. He gets back in
his truck, the truck absorbs it and you can still
see it more weekly, but it's still there. He does
it again, he says, I can hear it again, but
you can see it. So that's the closest thing actual
infrasound was this low thumping and it starts off slow
and speeds up twice on blanket Ship, but he's disappeared.

(01:20:16):
Don't know where you went.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Oh my gosh. The man who knew too much?

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Okay, he was a military, that big guy. He had
problems with his legs, diabetes I think, and he was
talking about surgery. I hope he's okay because he's getting
some good stuff out there, hope.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
So if anybody knows, you'll put it down the comments today. Okay,
he fell nowhere? His whereabouts?

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Okay, Mark Blankenship, he was Cascade Bigfoot. I haven't looked.
I haven't seen him in a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
We've got some internet sluice in here. We'll find him. Okay,
but Matt, tell everybody where they can find you. I
know you're with Carolina Cryptic Field Research, but promote whatever
you'd like right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Yeah, I mean Carolina Crypto Field Research. Obviously on Facebook
you can find me, Matt Hooper. Not much else I
can say. I mean, I worked with If you always
need some country bands or bluegrass or any player wedding
or something, I'll come play a wedding, you know. But yeah,
that would be great, So go to the channel and

(01:21:12):
uh subscribe, that'd be great. And that's the other thing
I was. I also told the History Channel, we don't
do this for money. We don't do this for fame.
We do I do this for discovery, you know. So
we don't have a ton of videos because I will
not post garbage. Too many other YouTubers post garbage. You know,
I'm not going to post a ten second video of

(01:21:34):
a light in the sky and say it's UFO with
no context, and that's not research. So when I put
videos up, they're usually pretty decent. I mean, the review
on this will be you know, there's thousands of reviews,
but my stuff is, you know, it's very specific, like
the alien, the gray the reptilian. Yes like that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
No, David's brought both those videos from the little person
in Uari along with also the reptilian in his backyard
with that portal and everything. He shouted to the audience.
It is amazing. If you guys want to go see
those videos, they are up on their website, Carolina cryptid
Field Research of at least snippets.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
That's the snippet that's just a little bit of the
guy watching him and it looks all the world like
a gray. I've had the footage for years. I've been
dissecting it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Gosh, I love that the I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
I sent this picture to Bloodsoe because in one of
his books he talks about the lady. She's got a
shape right here in her chest. This image, this thing
watching David and David there's two David's. When it peeks out,
it's got a cold spot on its chest, big head,
right arm, shoulder cold spots. So I'm either thinking it's
wearing a suit. I don't know, but it's it looks

(01:22:46):
like a gray. Turns its head to the right and
it's flat faced and turns back and there's a few
frames where you can see its eyes just watching him
from thirty feet away and I've been there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
That is so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
And it's like, dude, you're sitting on something that he's
worried that you know he's going to have a knock
on the door.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Yeah, well too late now. Well, you know, the good
thing is he has shown it to the world already,
and so there's not a whole lot of people can do.
It's already out there in the public, and that's actually
the good thing to do, you know. I've learned that
from watching like Alex Jones and stuff. If you've got
good information, put it out there before. Don't hold on
to it, because that's when they'll get you. Okay, just
saying and on that note, y'all, man, thank you so

(01:23:28):
much so much for being here. Did I thoroughly enjoyed this.
This has been really fun today, and thank you for
sharing your encounters with us and all your information and
everything you gave us today was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
So again, I want to get on the Woo stuff
because there's interesting, plenty of it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
There's plenty of the wo stuff we can get into
the next time. We'll save it for next time. And
I wanted to thank everybody for being here today. Thank
you to all my moderators. Thank you to Mareene and
Gus for the super sticker today. Y'all are so sweet,
and I want to tell you guys, please come back
and see me on what is today tomorrow night. Come
back tomorrow night at eight o'clock Eastern. I will have
a remote viewing show for you guys. We will be

(01:24:07):
live at eight o'clock tomorrow night. And and Matt, we'll
come see you over on your website, over on YouTube
and Facebook. Okay, I'm already a remember and I'm subscribed
to both. But hopefully yeah, y'all, y'all go over there
and subscribe, and please stay safe out there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
I'm sure i'll run into you in the woods one day.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Oh yeah, well we'll yeah, we'll get out there. I
gotta figure this thing out. It's gonna drive me crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
Oh yeah, we'll do it. Okay, Well, thank you again
for being here. You guys, have a wonderful day, and
I will see you all tomorrow night. All right, see it, Matt. Bye, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
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