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December 21, 2025 139 mins
Missouri Dogman & Werecat Shapeshifters in National Parks

On this episode, Jessica goes "On the Hunt" with researcher and author E.D. Testerman to discuss Dogman sightings and encounters across the Midwest and recent reports of bi-pedal feline creatures, most likely shapeshifting werecats.

E.D. Testerman is a Disabled Veteran and single Father of two amazing daughters. He loves to write and express his dreams and love in his writing. He writes to help others to be able to go on adventures, live in a different time, and escape day-to-day life. He lives in the country, loves riding motorcycles, and spends his free time writing and coming up with new book ideas. E.D. has a Norwegian background, incorporating it into his writing. He incorporates his love of history, SIFI, Superheroes, Cryptids, and mythology into his works.

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Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, good even everybody. It's the Cryptied Huntress. Welcome into
on the Hunt tonight where we are going on the
hunt for some Midwest cryptids tonight. And uh and I
have my good buddy, author Ed Testerman aka Eric here
with me tonight, and gosh, we were just talking before
the show, and I am so excited for these topics tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know when when Robbie Rains came on a couple
about a week ago? Was that a week ago? A
little over where you go? Uh? He He actually kind
of informed me about some feeline six and a half
seven foot tall creatures out of Missouri and that we're
at a national park and we're going to talk about
those tonight a little bit with Eric. Eric is from Missouri,

(01:45):
he lives there, and uh, we're going to talk about
those tonight. We're also going to talk about some dogman reports.
We're going to talk about maybe some historical dog man
encounters and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
We're going to get into all sorts of interesting stuff tonight.
So you guys go get you popcorn. We've got a
lot to unpack this evening, and I am so glad
you guys are here with me. Tonight. I know it
is the holidays. I hope you guys are all ready
to go for your family Christmas stuff if you are

(02:16):
celebrating Christmas. Of course, I know I have a lot
to do between now and then. But however, we're gonna
forget about all that right now and we're just gonna
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(02:37):
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(03:00):
To everybody who has bought stuff out of my shop,
especially over the holidays at Warwoman Goods, thank y'all so
much for that as well. Okay, well let's get to
our show today. Okay, all right, So on this episode
we have author and researcher Ed Testament here to discuss
dog man sightings and encounters across the Midwest in recent

(03:22):
reports of bipedal feline creatures and some black budget cryptid programs.
I'm going to be getting into that as well with
Eric and ask him what he thinks. He is a veteran,
you guys. He's a disabled veteran and a single father
of two amazing daughters. He loves to write. He has
several books out as well, so please go over to
Amazon and purchase his books under Ed Testament. He has

(03:46):
a Norwegian background, incorporating it into his writing, and of
course he loves history, sci fi, superhero's, cryptids, mythology and more.
And he rides motorcycles and stuff too. Okay, so you
can find him on his weekly shows over on his
YouTube channel that is The Bizarre and the Unknown, and
also with our good friend mister William Nighthawk over on

(04:08):
nighthawk High Strangeness podcast channel. All Right, you guys, please
help me. Welcome to the show, mister Eric Tescherman.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Hey everybody, Hey, Hey, you doing today?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I'm doing excellent. Thank you so much for being here tonight.
Hey you been Oh my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I had to change shirts because I did my show earlier.
I forgot I was still in the work shirt when
I was out cutting wood and Roxanne was giving me
a hard time. So I was like, well, I gotta
look kind of kind of party for being on Jesky show.
So I went and changed my shirt.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, I appreciate you getting all fancy for me tonight.
I appreciate that makes me feel good. I know it's such.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
A this is pretty high fluting for me.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
High faluting. Oh my god, well, durn tooting and it's
high faluting. Of course you're over here at the Cryptanal
hundred channel where we celebrate with vanginas, sausages, chicken fangers,
and tater logs. Okay, and uh you can ask my
audience about that. But uh, oh my gosh. I've really
enjoyed watching your shows today. Thank you so much. I

(05:18):
know this a lot on Saturdays to ask you to
come on my show when you have your own You
have your own shows with William and over on your
channel and H and I have thoroughly enjoyed watching y'all.
I always learned so much from you and William both.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Thank you so yeah. Pretty good topics we like to
we like to chatter up and learn a thing or two.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
You do, I learn a lot. I be learning. Okay, Uh,
but well I was thinking about you. Uh and uh
when when when Robbie started talking about a week or
so ago about these strange six and a half to
seven foot feeline creatures out of Mark Twain National Park,
I think it or State Art Adam, Missouri. I could

(06:02):
not believe.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I was.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I was flabberg acid. Well when he was talking about that,
and I was wondering. I wanted to talk about that
a little bit with you tonight because you're from there,
and uh, and I've been getting listen, if you knew
the amount of people who contact me on the regular
saying that they have either encountered feline humanoids or they

(06:24):
think that they are a feline humanoid, which is I
know it sounds a little out there, y'all, but you'd
be surprised. You know, you probably be a surprised. While
the people who believe that they are actually I don't
know if they're shape shifters or extraterrestrials, but they believe
that they have a connection to the LERI ends maybe,
but but this is okay. So we talked about dog

(06:45):
man a lot. We talked about Bigfoot all the time,
but now we're talking about feline humanoids. Eric, what do
you know about it?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
So that's actually, uh, A lot of people get this
very much mistaken, and people get sot on sw's get
stuck stuck on Celtic ware beests, so they forget that
it's not just in them locations. That type of dark
magic has been throughout our history all over the world.
Meso America is very well known for these wearcats, very

(07:16):
very well known for them, panthers, jaguars and stuff like this.
This is very common for him. You know, we know
of different types as in berserkers, open are Celtic ware bees,
skin walkers, rugaroo, stuff like that. We know these things
through that, but we forget that even meso America has

(07:36):
this stuff. So these feline creatures that they're talking about
very much could be these wear felines from meso America
because think about how the borders have been opened up
and all these people from South America came up here.
So if they're coming up here, they're bringing that dark
magic with them. It's not staying in meso America, it's
coming with them. So the fact that they're seeing this

(07:59):
type of stuff. Is that what we're dealing with that?
Are we dealing with dark magic from from South America?
Are we dealing with the the fee lines types from
outer space? Who knows? I mean, it's all possible. Definitely.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Oh my gosh, Eric, that's a great point. You know,
I had not thought about that. And uh. And there's
there's been a whole lot of cryptic connections to some
of the I want to say, Uh, I guess immigrants
that are that have been coming into our country for
the past I'm going to say, like ten years, let's
just put a big let's just give it a decade, okay.

(08:33):
And uh And that's either legally or not legally, okay,
And uh and I have covered you and I have
talked about several on several occasions about uh people who
are crossing the Mexico United States border who were allegedly attacked,
mauled by dog men and uh and I've gotten multiple reports.

(08:55):
I've got multiple reports of that, Eric. So there's a
lot of I mean, there's multiple a lot of cryptid
connections to like that. But now the idea of like
some of the culture, I guess the culture of like
voodoo or something or some kind of Santa Rio or
some some kind of black magic I guess, uh coming

(09:19):
with them. And then like the shape shifter aspect, the
s walker y'all know what s walker's are. We don't
have to repeat it, right, Yeah, the s walker aspect,
but just a shape shifting aspect with some of this.
Is this what's what's causing people to encounter these beings
out there? That's interesting?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So interesting, yeah, because I mean this is this is
nothing new. I mean, like I said, I mean every
culture and history has this type of dark magic in there,
and it's it's let's let's you know, call oranges oranges
and apple apple folks. I mean dark magic. That's what's
used to create this stuff. Even with my ancestors, with
the bearserkers, the open Are, the raven plans, the boarheads,

(10:01):
I mean, all this type of stuff that was dark
magic you used to create those type of people. So
it's it's all over. I mean, the Romans have talked
about it, the Greeks have talked about it then and
Nake with ancient Smerians, they talked about it. It's all
through there. I mean, look at all these reports and

(10:22):
it tells you about that. Now there is some feline
where bees in Celtic mythology, but well it's predominant South America,
and so they're going to bring that up. I mean,
it's not going to go it's not border it's not
based on the borders. I'm sorry. Supernatural and and black

(10:42):
magic does not follow borders. That's a human concept. They're
gonna be wherever it's at, so that when you practice this,
when you when you take this type of stuff on,
it travels where you go. Prime example, when the offinar
and and the Bears are workers came with the other
uh you know Danes in Norse and Swedes and all them.

(11:06):
When they came in and attacked different cultures in their
different countries, they transformed before battle. They wasn't just there
in their homeland. They came to a different location and transformed.
Celtic wear Beast is the same thing. Look at all
different countries that the Celts have ever been. You have
them stories about them wear Beast. It's not isolated to

(11:29):
one area. It is literally spread out. It's they go.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It is oh my gosh. Well, I remember when I
was a kid, and and I was I was very
musical and into dance and theater and musicals and stuff
and uh and cats, what the cats? The musical was
like a big production Okay, and that was real big
back in the nineteen eighties, y'all. That is how damn

(11:55):
I still get to see that. Yeah, Cats, I remember
Beauty and the Beast as well with what was that
actor's name? I forgot that it was a TV show.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah he was. He played hell Boy.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah whatever that guy's name is.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Uh, he's played a lot of stuff. He was the
actor to play the Beast. Okay, it must have been me,
am I back, y'all.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, you're here, You're here, all right.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Uh, you know, he played a lot of them parts,
you know. But you know that is that's a prime
example of another type of dark magic used to do something.
I mean, he was cursed by a.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Witch ron plan.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Take the form of the beast.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's right, black magic ron Ron Perlman, Pearlman, I think
I think it is Pearlman, Is that right?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Somebody said his name and lately yeah yeah, he uh
he was. He was a human cat hybrid basically. And
you know something else, Eric is I was I'm actually
going to be doing a show on New Year's Day. Okay,

(13:13):
so January first, you guys, please tune it. It's going
to be on a Thursday night. Jimmy Paine's coming back, y'all. Uh,
And Jimmy was very good friends with our good friend
James Rink who just passed away recently. And uh, and
Jimmy is coming on to do a show that we
were all going to do together with us and James
on the island of Doctor Moreau. All right, now, Uh,

(13:35):
Jimmy actually knows the person that that movie. He said
it was based off a real person. And uh, and
he said that he knows all of course, he knows
all about it. Okay, but but but he's going to
come on and uh, and he and I are going
to be watching that movie together before the show that
we do together. But there are the the premise of everything.
It's like a mad scientist that goes to some kind

(13:57):
of you know, island and out in the middle of
nowhere that's isolated, and he's doing all these animal human
hybrid experiments and stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Eric.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's it's really odd.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't Yeah, there's actually multiple movies about doctor Monroe.
You know. Doctor Monroe was first in a book before
they created movies. One of my favorite ones is with
Val Kilmer. But there's many different movies, in many different
types of movies based off of that Doctor Monroe. And

(14:31):
I've heard schuttle, but that you know, it's based off
a real guy. I've never seen enough evidence for me
to suggest that that's possible. I'm not saying it's not.
It's just I've heard of it, and it's not out
of the realm of possibility for that being being a
true thing. Because let's face it, it's not just America
dabbles in this stuff. Every other country dabbles in this
stuff too. They're always trying to make a one up

(14:53):
on the next Oh.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, Ken dismut And it's uh, it's our it's our militaries,
our government. I mean, it goes back a long ways. Okay,
and uh, and I covered first of all, I want
to think before I go further, Thank you Larry Sharp
for gifting that crypti Hunter's membership to the Hunt Club.
Thank you for being here, Larry, I appreciate you. And
Merry Christmas. Okay, So, so we covered the Billy Whack

(15:17):
Monster all right, Now, that is a that was actually
a goat man. The Billy Whack Dairy is associated with
the Billy Whack Dairy. There's all these billy whack monsters
which are goat men probably goat women too, but they
are out in southern California. And the Billy Whack Dairy
was actually from I think it was around the World

(15:38):
War one era. I want to say World War one,
maybe world War two, but I think it's World War
one era. And UH, and there was a it was
basically a scientist who came over from uh. It was
either the Czech Republic. It was not Germany. I thought
it was Germany, but it was it was somewhere like
the Czech Republic or something, or Belgium. He may have
been Belgium. And and he came over and had a

(16:00):
dairy farm where he actually had a prize bull actually
and would show this bull. Made lots of money doing that.
But secretly there was a government laboratory underneath this dairy
Eric and he was rumored to he worked for the
OSS and he was rumored to be doing human animal
hybrid experiments underneath this dairy. The Billy Whack Dairy, y'all

(16:25):
look it up. I've done a full show on if
you guys want to go check out my I think
it was on a Glitch in the Matrix maybe or
my remote viewing show. I can't remember, but this was.
You know, they talk about the Project paper Clip and
all those scientists coming over here from Germany. They've been
doing all sorts of weird experiments on humans for a
long time, and the black magic's involved.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
The couple weeks ago, I did a show on the
Hauska Castle. Huska Castle, and that is out of the
Czech Republic, and that's where they had the hole in
the ground that was like the gateway to Hell, they said,
and the Germans took this area over Eric back in
the World War two to harness the power of Hell
for experiments. Okay, so we know these these mugs are

(17:12):
doing this stuff. We know it. It's documented, okay ye.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
So yeah, so you know my book series, yeahan you
are book series did I write?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I got the first one, which is called House of Battle,
which takes place there in World War Two. That's focused
on the occult side of the Nazi Party. For a reason,
they were creating this type of stuff. They were creating werewolves,
they were creating minotaurs, they were creating giants, they were
creating all this type of stuff. Yeah, for purposes like

(17:52):
we were just talking about. So whenever they came and
get brought over here, the select few that was selected
to come over here got out over here, that stuff
came with them here. You know, we're gonna go, hey,
we want that technology to or we want that that
that you know, super Soldier program as well, So bring
it with you. You do it, we'll give you sanctuary.

(18:15):
That's how it happens. I mean, this is this is something.
It don't happen just in the United States, like I
said earlier, this is anywhere around the world. They're always
going to go, hey, man, you've done some bad stuff,
but we'll give you sanctuary if you do this.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, if you'll come over here and harness the power
of Hell, we'll bring you over for free and pay you. Okay. Yeah,
that's why you know they did. They took they did
confiscate that land where Mel from Mel's hole. Uh, you know,
the government came in and took all that over. And
he had two holes one and I think one was

(18:48):
in New Mexico or Nevada, I think, and the other
one was in Washington State and and he you know,
they ended up he ended up dead, okay, because they
paid him to go to like Australia go start his
wombat farm and he couldn't help but come back here.
They told him not to never come back, and he
came back and ended up dead. Okay. So I don't know,

(19:11):
you can't say they're not doing all these experiments and stuff.
I mean, like I said, we have documentation of all
a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So yeah, yeah, I've seen too much weird stuff my
time in the military for me to be able to
not say theah, they doing this, and yeah, they're doing
this crap. This is nothing new Man since the dawn
of war, man has always tried to get a better
weapon than their enemy has. That's it's never changed. It's

(19:40):
never changed. They're constantly evolving and upgrading their weaponry and
it's been the occult side of it for years as well.
I mean, it's just that's nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
New, Yeah exactly. I mean I was told that even
at the Exorcist house. You know that now some new
information has come into that. Okay, I've actually heard that
that was a syop. Okay, the Linda Blair movie, you know,
what I'm talking about Eric right where her head spins
around and she vomits out pea soup in the movie. Okay,

(20:15):
that exercist house. I've heard. I don't know the validity
did this, but I heard recently that was all a
big syop and it was to get people to embrace
Christianity more or something. That's what I heard. I'm not
saying that's true. That's what I heard, okay, And Lord
knows we're always being syoped, okay, and.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
That's nothing new. I mean, the Church has always been
doing that. You know. I'm probably going to ruffle a
few few others here, and I apologize if I do,
but I'm sorry. Christmas wasn't never a Christian holiday. It was.
It was the Yule Time festival and other different ones
that they just claimed and made Hey, this is going
to be what we're calling today of the Bird of Christ,

(21:00):
and this is when we're celebrated because they wanted to
bring people into it. That's something that's been going on
for generations. It's nothing new. We've done it even before then,
even before Christianity was doing that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Well exactly. It also I was told, well I was
told by somebody that a while back that, uh, the
furniture if now, if that it might it might be
real and it probably may happen. Okay, so there's different size.
I mean, there's syps in sight of syops all the time.
But I was told a while back that actually the
furniture from that house was confiscated and put into a

(21:36):
warehouse by our government to be studied, and which I
find interesting.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
How honors the power the power of Hell.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I mean, that's what the Germans did, you know back
in World War Two? With that house could castle.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
The super Soldier program is nothing new. Mankind has been
trying to figure out how to upgrade themselves for years
upon years upon years upon years. Nowadays, the super Soldier
programs focused on the outer space travels. I don't know
how much is true to that. I've had dreams that
fit very much what these people talk about. I don't know.

(22:17):
I don't know enough about it to say, yeah, that
happens or not. I do know, stuff like Captain America,
the Incredible Hawk, all that type of stuff is something
that's not new. It's been going on a long time.
The Germans were probably the best at it at one
point in time until Operation paper clip. They were able
to do that to enhance humans strength, speed, rejuven ability.

(22:45):
That's nothing new. I mean we've been doing it since
the days of you know, Sparta and on. They're always
trying to find something to do. Prime example, what we
talked about beginning the show, these wear beasts. That's where
they come from. That's where this dark magic comes from.
We want to make we want to enhance ourselves, make
ourselves stronger to defeat our enemies.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, well, is that where some of these dog men,
the dog man programs? Is that what that is? I
mean we've talked about it before a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Dog man programs, not so much as super Soldier program
as in maybe werewolves. Dog Man is a natural thing.
It's it's an elder big brother. It was here before
humans were here, just like the Gin, just like Bigfoot,
just like a lot of these other things. These things
were here before humans were here. Now, the werewolf side

(23:41):
of it, for as goes the super Soldier program, yes,
I would say definitely. And and there's several reports coming from
you know, whistleblowers talking about, hey, it's easier to control
a werewolf than it is a dog man, because a
werewolf still retains a lot of humanity where there's none
in a dog man.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's what I hear. That is what I hear. And
uh and yeah, I mean the rabbit the rabbit hole
goes deep on all of this, Okay. And uh And
I don't know if you're familiar with this or you've
heard about this, Eric, but uh, this past week I
did a show where I actually was talking about some
interesting information, uh that just came out recently of some

(24:26):
intelligence officers who were claiming that they claimed that they
were doing some super secret UFO projects over in Nevada.
And uh, and they're working on some kind of big
I don't I don't want to say. I'm going to
say a black budget type of a thing. You know,
they're studying UFOs. And and they said they went home.

(24:46):
One of them went home to d C, to the
DC area in Washington over here on the East coast.
And when they got home, he said that he had
a bipedal wolf like creature in his backyard and he
called it a hitchhiker. And I know I've had my
personal life, I've had a hitchhikers that came with me

(25:08):
home from the meadow, potentially in the form of orbs
in my home, dancing around my son. I have it
on video. I have it on video, okay. And it
was the same night that the portal showed up in
the meadow. You know, so because there's that. But but
to me, Eric, that was like governed. To me, that's
the government disclosure of dogmen and were wolves potentially. I

(25:31):
don't know, what do you think could be?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I mean, it's it's possible. I mean these things have
been talked about throughout history. So I mean the military
or government getting their hands on that stuff for their
own breeding purposes and super soldier program purposes. Yeah, yeah,
I'll tell you now, there is I've seen some weird
crap on military basis. I spent thirteen years in the

(25:56):
military or deployments. I've been all over this for al
I've seen some weird crap on military basis, to the
point that I can't dispute that we're doing it. I did.
I can't. There's there's why you have such a high
concentration of supernatural encryptid activity on military basis when you
don't have that much around the different parts of the

(26:18):
world where it's more spread out. The only way you
would have that high amount of concentration of that type
of activity on military basis is if we're doing it exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I know, I talk about that all the time. It's
always it's always a on the military basis, you know.
You know, I lived not too far from Fort Benning
and I went to college near Fort Stuart in Georgia,
and and lots of dog men and mostly bigfoot sightings, honestly,
but a lot of a lot of dog man saightnings
as well. And of course my good friend Martin me

(26:52):
Jack was on the show. He took a rapport out
of Kentucky near Fort Knox actually, or somewhere some around
that area. I think it was around that. But he
said that there was a dog man wearing a suit
of spiked armor. Seeing I mean, this is really he
took he I believe he took this report actually, but

(27:13):
it was it was somewhere up around Kentucky and he
said that this thing had spikes on it's like an
armored suit.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
On weirdness, there's reports out of India talking about the
dog Headed people, the dog Headed tribe. They live up
in the mountains and they're feared because they're they're some
of the best warriors that they've ever been known. They
are known to carry weapons and armor. So hearing a
report like that, I kind of believe it's possible, especially

(27:41):
if we're doing it to them and we're putting it
on them. But you get reports, you know, out of
India like that in other places, you know, I mean,
the Romans are not the Romans, I can't remember. There's
another country that talked about it in their history too,
of these dog headed people that had weapons and armors
as well. So I mean, this is nothing new. So

(28:01):
if they were doing it back then, and we're the
ones that's breeding them and creating these these weapons made
weaponizing them, it's not far fetch for us to put
armor on them as well.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Well, I mean all the way back to I don't
know if this is the thirteen hundreds or fourteen hundreds
we had that Perry Reese map, and maybe it's fifteen
sixty four. I don't know. I'm never I'm never right,
I don't know, but it's it is a long time ago. Okay,
this this map, it has all sorts of creatures on

(28:35):
it that don't exist today, are not supposed to exist
today from you know, Sea servants to dog headed civilizations
of dog headed people and Blimmy's dragons. You damn it.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Look at Antarctica. They're on the lower left corner. You
got dog men and bigfoot together.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh yeah, full civilizations of beings that aren't supposed to
exist today. However, we are getting reports and seeing them ourselves, okay,
of dog headed beings. And I'm not so sure these
are like dog human hybrids. I think there's something all
different all I think there's something totally different. Okay, I

(29:21):
don't think they're like an experiment of humans and dogs.
I think that there's something all on their own.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, you know, someone just been in the comment best
Saint Christopher, and yeah, supposedly Saint Christopher was known. He's
known as the dog headed Saint, right, and supposedly he
was cured. Well, if he was cured and made human again,
then that tells me he was a were wolf and
he was cursed with the curse of the were wolf,
and then they cured him. And that's the thing. And

(29:51):
I hate to ruffle some more feathers, but I'm going
to the truth is the truth, and don't matter if
you like it or not. Apologize ahead of time. But
the Catholic Church has hidden so much of this stuff.
Not the Catholic Church of the Vatican. The Vatican has
hidden so much of this stuff from us. Look at exorcisms.
The Vatican has taken everything on exorcism and keeps it

(30:13):
within their crips and in their in their libraries, and
only a select few are allowed to do this. Is
this what happened to Saint Christopher? Was he exercised and
the were wolf curse was taken from him and now
he became human again. There's plenty of stories of being
able to cure were wolf stuff, so it's definitely, definitely

(30:37):
possible that that's what happened. You know, there's too many
were beasts and too many cultures dealing with dark magic
that you there. If you can create it, you can
uncreate it. You know. It's like your mama used to
say in your daddy used to tell you when you
use a when you use knee high to a grasshoppers.
Ass boy, I made you, and I can I can
take you out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I'm not gonna say I ever said my kid, but yeah,
I brought you into this world, I can take you out.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Same concept o. Man, they're created, so if they are created,
they can be uncreated.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh my god, that's so funny. That's true. Well, I've
got this up on the I've got this up on
the screen now, says in Welsh folklore, King author Arthur
battles an army of dog heads near Edinburgh. His champion
Bedward lost a hand, unliving their leader Geir. Ye. I
can't say it. It says dog. It stands for man

(31:33):
dog rough gray. It says it's debated whether these beings
are meant to be were wolves or a species of
dog headed men. Uh so, I mean this is throughout history.
You mentioned Saint Christopher. We've got you know, uh, King
Arthur fighting an entire army of dog headed men at Edinburgh.

(31:53):
I mean this is well documented, and I mean we
all know that our history is not what we've been taught. Hey,
and mythological creatures have been made into fairy tales. Okay,
but they're probably not just fairy tales. Okay, probably not.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
No, if you actually study the true true myth behind
King King Arthur, not not what were not what Christianity
turned King Arthur into the actual story of King Arthur
pre Christianity, King Arthur, you study that you'll be surprised

(32:30):
to how much supernatural and mythological stuff that King Arthur
and his knights fought. They fought a lot and then
and that's a big misconception. Everybody thinks King Arthur was
a was a king of God. No he wasn't. That
was brought in by the Catholic Church. That was redirected,
repurpose to fit their narrative. King Arthur predates Christianity. King

(32:55):
Arthur comes back from the days of the Saxons and
the Anglos, and that you know, he was a true
brit pre Saxon and he fought Saxons and Anglos. He
was a Briton. He was post Roman era, way before Christianity.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Well, Eric, okay, I've heard stories of like armies of
soldiers going out that were specifically tasked with unliving all
the mythological creatures at some point, have you heard of that.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
That was very big in the medieval days because the
Church wanted to get rid of it, because that did
not fit with the Church's narrative. So the Church purposely
created people to go out and hunt these these supernatural,
supernatural life forms, these mythological life forms, these cryptids. I mean,
this was their job was to eradicate it so there

(33:51):
would nothing remain but the Christian Christian narrative. This is
and I'm not trying to bash nothing. I'm a Christian too,
I'm nor saying I'm christ I accept both. I have
nothing against it. But this is how people. This is
how humans operate. I hate to be that way, but
that's just human nature. We eradicate what doesn't fit our narrative. Right,

(34:15):
I've always done that throughout since war has been brought
to mankind by the Nephelum, the giants. This is how
it's been.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Oh yeah, I've had some I've had some ops trying
to eradicate me because I didn't fit in their narrative.
Just kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, Okay, thank you, Margaret.
Margaret has a good point. Some bloodline families keep these
for protection of the family. Now you're talking about were wolves,
and I know there's a gentleman named Nathan Reynolds that's

(34:46):
been on my buddy Tony Merple show, and he has
his own YouTube channel, y'all, Nathan Reynolds, and he's very
candid about his experiences and he is of a some
sort of a blue blood family. I believe the Renals family.
I remember him talking about how his family owns pig
farms and stuff, and he's like, never eat pork because

(35:09):
they feed they feed the people to the pigs, you know,
and all that kind of stuff. It's some interesting stuff,
y'all check it out.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I do like bacon though, I do.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Sorry, Yeah, I all I could say, there's a reason
why a lot of us come country folks had hog farms,
not just for oh food on hooks.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
There's complicating yourself or anything.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, my area where I live at now was way
different before I left for the military in ninety nine.
You didn't see you didn't see a ten star of
any kind in this area. Before I left. We pleased
our own and you didn't come in here and started crap.
But yes, all I could say is I've heard the

(35:58):
scene rumor he's talking about. I'll never confirm or deny.
I just say there's a reason why a lot of
us country folk had hog farms, had.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Been old hogs. Yeah, Oh my gosh, man, you remember
the Dukes of Hazzard Boss Hog. Wonder what I don't know?
Or there's some kind of implication with that there.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
The mafia mayor may not had ties with people in
the country that had hog farms too, That's all I'm
going to say.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh lord, well, you know up at Brown Springs in Oklahoma.
I know our good friend Gary Spike Sr. He's usually
in the chat with us. And and Gary lives up
there and not too far from Brown Spring Brown Springs,
and uh and I remember text telling me a long
time ago he said that the mob used to have

(36:54):
I don't know if the mob had a hog farm
out there or somebody had a hog farm and they
would like take people there. Let's just say they just
take people there, if you'll know what I mean. And
uh and and dispose of bodies out there. Okay, so yeah,
and also yeah, thank you Bigfoot Dwarf. The parasite port

(37:14):
connection people's attitude was super interesting on Merkel show. Yes, uh,
you know there is a big parasite port connection as well,
for sure. Actually, I haven't really bought. I used to
eat pork all the time, and now I have completely
almost cut it out completely except for some bacon occasionally.
Oh yeah, yeah, well I've grown up on I grew

(37:38):
up on pork. Okay, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I can give up a lot of stuff. I can't
give up bacon.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I know. That's the hardest thing is giving up bacon. Okay.
So uh, but there is that connection. It just cooked
real good, okay, make it real crispy. But my mom
will not eat pork at all. She's never eat pork.
She hates it. If I if I have bacon, she gets.
I mean, it'll like make her gag just to have
any kind of pork in the house. Yeah, my mother

(38:08):
of all people. Yeah, she's known forever. She loves pigs.
She's always thought me. She's like, well, the picture picture
is so smart. She's like there's something to it. She's like,
I cannot bring myself to eat one.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
And I'll put it on a piece of bread. I'll
put it on a salad.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Voina sausages. I think that's what Vaina sausages are.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I think, yeah, you ain't that like good old ground
up sausage with some sage, you know.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
I reckon I put some messures on my biscuits.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Okay, anyways, oh man, okay, it does it does well. Okay,
So this is this is this is wild. I forgot.
I don't even know how we got off on this
pork conversation just now, I guess speaking of speaking of
pigs being like human animal hybrids too, I know this

(39:00):
kind of grows if your discretion advice. Hey, I'm about
to say this. I have been told that domesticated pigs
like the pink pigs. We had the pink pig at
Macy's when I was a kid. You can go ride
the pink pig around at Christmas time. Anyways, pink pigs,
the kind of eat are actually a mix of human

(39:22):
and wild bore. Okay, I don't know what do you
know about that? Eric, is that true? What do you think?

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, we've domesticated them. So there's a lot of people
don't understand about the hole. You know, the hog. That
theory behind the hog was date back to the ancient
times where they didn't have a way to properly maintain
and store pork. Pork has got a lot of parasites
in it. So if you don't store it right, you
don't maintain it right, you don't cook it right. Yeah,

(39:50):
you're going to get sick. It's bad for you. You know,
it is I mean it's it was called a kettle black.
That's just exactly how it is. But things are for nowadays.
But yes, I mean everybody's right. They are probably one
of the closest things related to us. There's a reason
why human meat is called long pork. That is, there's
a reason for it. I mean, genetically we're very, very

(40:14):
very similar. You know, Hey, it is what it is.
I'm still gonna have me a bacon sandwich.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Well, here's my question. Could a pig become a wear pig? Eric? Could?
I never could it, But that'd be that'd be something
to fear. I would think, yeah, they've got like, yeah, not.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Pig becoming one, but I know if humans becoming them,
I mean you got your wear bares. Yeah, I mean
that's in Celtic mythology, that's in Norse mythology. I mean
the foreheads. That was a type of the what we
call nowadays berserkers. But it's not true. It's not berserkers.
There was bearserkers, Opinar, wolfhead, raven clan. There was different types.

(41:07):
They would put up on the upon them the skin
of the boar and take in the essence of the
boar for battle, just like the wolf Glenar did, just
like the bearserkers did, just like the ravens did. That is, yes,
that's been documented in Celtic Norse and other different cultures
as well. But a boar doing it, I don't know,
that'd be interesting.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
It would be, it would be I mean pretty much
any any animal can become a ware animal like w
E like a ware wolf a where hyena? Right, a
ware cat and uh and I I never really even
thought about that before, but I mean that that would
basically mean that they are an s walker? Am I

(41:49):
rioters or something different? Is that something?

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah? It's okay. So your sw's are called that from
the Navajo nation. Yes, that's how they're known. People read
that and don't read everything else. They just think, oh,
this is a setting. No, it's the same process to
create an sw is the same process used in all
other cultures to create the same exact thing. You got

(42:13):
to have the right postions, the right chance, the right
frequency is the right everything. Everything has to be done right.
It's a certain process, a certain way of doing it.
It's not just with the sw's that's any of it's
it's dark magic and it's it's huge all over the world.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Eric, I never in a millionaires knew how prevalent dark
magic was and how widespread it is. It is. It
is concerning. Actually it was quite concerning. I mean I
knew that it was. It had like infiltrated our military
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
A while back.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
You know, we talked about like, what's that guy Michael Aquino,
And we got all the my friends that are you know,
survivors of the secret Space programs and mon Talk Project
and stuff. They were very much into like just like
dark magic and Satanism and stuff, you know, and so
and the German scientists that the Schmazis as well, we're

(43:10):
doing that.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yeah, dark magic was brought down. I can't remember if
it was pre Fallen. I can't remember if there's the
Watchers that taught the dark magic or if it was
the Fallen that taught the dark magic. But dark magic
predates humans. I mean, the angels knew of dark magic,
but I can't remember off the top of my head
if it was the Watchers that talked to humans. Because

(43:33):
the Watchers are the ones that breeded with the women
of the Earth to create the Nephilim. People get that mistake,
and Nephlim is actually Hebrew for giant, So when you
say nephilim, you're just saying giants. I mean, that's what
they are, They're giants. So I don't remember if it
was the Watchers who passed the dark magic to humans
or if it was the fallen after they fell that

(43:55):
taught the dark magic to humans. But that's how it
came about, was during that time. Now every culture is
wanna call it different. The Native Americans will talk about
the dark spirits that taught it to them. You know,
the Greeks will talk about, you know, the people from
Hell that taught it to them. You know, every culture
has a new way of saying it. But if you
if you actually study it, it's the same. It's you know,

(44:17):
I was talking to somebody I was talking today. I
believe it's all my life. I was talking about it.
I was like, people don't stop and think. You know,
when we talk about the creation of man, and if
you read every ancient culture, it's the same thing. The
Creator created man. Now the creator can have a different name.
You know, Norse mythology it's it's it's Oden, and in

(44:40):
Greek it's Zeus. In in Native American it's it's the
great Mystery, the Great Grandfather, the great Creator in Christianity.
It's yahooa. But if you if you listen to it
and you read it, it's it's all the same, every
bit of it's the same. And it's the same way
with the dark magic. It's just said differently.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Just packaged differently.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Huh oh, thank you George. So it was the Watchers,
That's what I was thinking. I just couldn't remember. Thank you, George. Now,
the Watchers taught humans a lot of stuff and then
breeded with humans, which caused them to be basically disowned,
not allowed to go back to heaven, cursed. Then the
pall it is something different. Falling is different.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Well to see, Mother Goo says, six out of ten
human families use dark magic.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, there's the side of my family it does. That's
why I won't practice it. There's a side of my
family that practices dark magic, and I've seen what happened
to them. I never partake of it. I will never
partake of it because I've seen what it did to them,
you know. And I guess I could say it because
this is why I spread it by it's the Smith's
side of my family who practiced the dark magic and

(45:53):
what I've seen happen to them and the gruesome stuff happened,
I will never partake in dark magic. No, hell no.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Wow. Well, I mean, when it comes down to it,
we have said repeatedly that words are spells, and we're
constantly basically you know, like don't curse yourself by speaking
down on yourself and things like that, and you know,
just stuff that's kind of like not I wouldn't consider
that like black magic and stuff. But I don't know

(46:20):
they say that gossiping is black magic, Okay, I mean
I've you know, sometimes you just kind of change your
perspective a little bit when you when you learn better,
you know better, right or or I guess that's what
the saying is. But it's it's like even even I
don't know, I'm not gonna go there tonight. I mean,
there's some things I could say, okay about a lot

(46:42):
of a lot of people who are present themselves as
being like super you know, they're quoting scriptures and things
like that all the time, but actually they're kind of
cursing people, okay. And and so just because someone is
like quoting biblical scripture doesn't mean that they're being a
good person. Sometimes they're cursing people with that. And I know,

(47:02):
I think I'm I'm not trying to offend anybody.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
When when you're doing a curse on someone, what do
you do? You speak it correct? Yes, you speak it
so what you say can manifest meaningfully or unmeaningfully. What
you say can manifest that. You know, It's like y'ahua says,

(47:26):
you have the power of life and death in your tongue.
Be careful of how you speak. And that's in every culture.
That's not just Christianity, that's every culture is going to
tell you that be careful how you speak, be careful
how you think.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
And I always say exactly, especially to yourself. You know,
you got to be really careful about what the things
that you even think. You know, like at this point
in this time and our in humanity's awakening, uh, depending
upon what where you are on your your journey, your
spiritual journey, and where you are are, and like how
advanced you are. And I'm not saying anybody's more advancing, aybody,

(48:04):
but some people are like as far as like tapping
into their you know, different dimension dimensions and you know,
just being awakened and some people if you just think
about something, it'll manifest immediately. Sometimes you gotta be really careful. Yeah,
I think that was my kid. My kids, My kids

(48:26):
asleep by the way, And yeah he's talking. He's talking
in his sleep a little bit, okay, but anyways, yeah,
he's okay, he'll be all right. But it just it's
kind of startled me because we're talking about, you know,
not speaking curses on yourself. And also I get hear
this like girbled noise over here. I'm like, what the
heck is that? But yeah, yeah, we we have to

(48:48):
we have to be very careful about the things that
we say and the intentions that we have towards people
because those things can manifest into our lives and and
there's and if you say something bad about somebody, it
could manifest as karma into your bad garma and stuff. Okay,
So I don't know, that's a whole other show, y'all, Eric,
that could I could do a whole show on that, Okay, but.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
A couple shows, yeah we could.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Well, you know, I really wanted to get into you know,
these these feline creatures and stuff tonight of course, and
also into like even it's the dog man that we've
been talking about, because I'm trying to figure out, like,
where where are these things coming from? I think you've
answered it very eloquently tonight. Actually, in speaking on.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I want to try to pull something up on where cats.
I'll have to open up my other deal over here
real quick, but I'll kind of give you a look
into it. But this is if you study study ancient
Meso American religion, they talk about this stuff all time.
They had warriors that wore jaguar firs in the battle,

(49:56):
that wore panther firs in the battle, and stuff like this.
This is very my norsees. I'm sorry when I write
I listened to Norse folk music and I had that plan.
It automatically started playing. I apologize to anybody that a uh,

(50:17):
but if you, if you study a lot of that culture,
you're going to see this very very common amongst them.
I want to try to pull this up real quick.
I may have to. I don't know if I'll send
it to I think I can. Oh, right there, there's
images of it right there of them doing that.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
But uh, Margaret is reminding us. Margaret is reminding us
that words like cursive, Yes, why why? Why is the
way like? And that's really interesting because like when I am,
when I was learning like remote viewing and stuff, and
we were learning about the subconscious mind and about how
our dreams, the importance are of dreaming when we go

(50:59):
to leap at night, right, and how it's important to like,
if you want to have something answered, if you want
the answer to something you want to you want to
get it. Let's just see an answer and you can
write it down incursive. You write it in cursive writing
on a little notebook by your bed at night, You
write down the question that you have and then you'll

(51:20):
go to sleep, and a lot of most of the
time you will have that question answered it while you're
dreaming that night. And I find it interesting that it's
important that it has to be incursive. You know, why
do they name that cursive?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
You know? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
There's just a lot to it. Okay, there's a lot
to it, y'all. And I don't know, you can what
do we always say when we were talking about like
the Indian burial mounds, and like all the cryptis being
around these burial mounds, these earthen mounds, like William nighthawk,
who's in the chat. Hey, William, thank you for being here.
He said that, you know a lot of there's some

(51:56):
of these creatures are some in there basically by curses
and blessings, depending upon how you look at it. It's
about your perspective, right, It's all about perspective, and perspective
is everything.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Even I remember my grandma. My grandmother used to tell
me that all the time. She was a prolific speaker,
and she loved to go around and give speeches and
talk about you know, leadership and all sorts of different things.
And she had a speech that she used to talk
about all the time. I almost had it memorize some
of the stuff. But she was talking about the power

(52:32):
of perception. Okay, And I don't know while you're while
you're pulling that up, I'll just ramble on about my
perception speech over here. So but yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
The the thing people need to realize it's not just
how you speak it, but what's in your heart as well,
your heart, your soul, your mind, your hoogar as Norse
called your hoogar. When all that is is combined and
comes together, that's what makes it powerful and strong. So
not only do you have to be careful what you

(53:07):
speak coming from your mouth, you know the words from
your mouth you speak, but what's in your heart, your soul,
in your mind, your hooker, You got to be careful
with that as well. No, you can't have taken that
sight down. It's an encyclopedia. How does you take that
site down?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Oh stensored?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I'm wonder if my internet. But I was trying to
get into the encyclopedia that it has all this about
the wear Beast, but it's not letting me in it.
That's odd, all right?

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Let me try. William says, your first brain is your heart. Yep,
that's good to know. Yes, you say, to make head
over heart decisions. Sometimes, sometimes you gotta make hard overhead decisions.
Thank you, William.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Well, I apologize, folks, but for some reason, it's not
letting me access the encyclopedia about the where where fee
lines of meso America.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Let's see, I've.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Got I got a little bit of information here, but
it's not not what I'm wanted. But I mean it's
something that helps. But yeah, you got it, so let's
go off for that.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I do I have on the wear cat Okay, so
I had this, and I want to say, probably I'm
seeing that that Marting Park Missuri, the sixth seven foot
tall feeling bipedal creatures, like maybe I'm thinking and I

(54:46):
thought this was interesting because that kind of looks like
a medicated care cat says in European for the gesture.
That's right. So wear cats did as in two domestic
cats sunder pen were cats became I cats panthers. There's

(55:10):
the general labeled, you know, the more magical ability other
than self intraformation were sent you hedonistic. I took the
guys of wild cats, such as a loss perform genoid

(55:30):
with you cat's face the other feeline for so it's
kind of like something out of the cats.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, some reason why you're sharing it. It's just jacking
your audio. I thought it was me at first. Oh what.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Okay now he and still.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
You're choppy.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
Okay, well.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Okay, I'm taking that. Hopefully it'll be better now. I'm sorry, y'all.
My computer sucks' sorryal it's not actually actually probably not
my computer. I think it's my internet. It's the internet
kind of sucks. So anyways, I'm sorry. Yes, I just

(56:29):
can't win, man, I tell you, it's always something. It's
always something. Just can't get it right. I can get one.
I have good audio, I can have good video, but
I can't have both. So but anyways, so so these
things go all the way back. Let's talk about even
the ancient Egyptians had like Bastet and Segment as well.

(56:51):
Those were both human women like female women, felines, feline
human women hybrids basically, And Segment is one of my
favorite stories. Actually, she got she just went crazy one
night and decided to I guess she was gonna go
slaughter a bunch of people, you know, in vengeance. She

(57:11):
was taking her vengeance out and uh, and they got
They ended up getting her drunk or something, and she
ended up drinking. They flooded the I think it was
like the river, maybe with wine instead of blood, I
don't know, and they got her drunk. I think it's
an interesting story.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
That you look up.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Segment.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I believe that is where the basis of the movie
Queen of the Damn is from.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
As segment with Aliyah. Yes, she has a vampire and uh,
and so I'm assuming like Segment was a vampire as well.
She was out for blood.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
If I'm thinking about the same one. I could have
my I could have them deepies mixed up. But I
believe if memory sirs correctly, that's what that's based off of.
She was one of the earliest known vampires besides Lilith.
Lilith is the oldest vampire known throughout any type of culture,
but there's been many other ones in different cultures.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Oh yeah, mother Goose said, I sounded like Emily Blunt
of Disclosure Day. Oh yeah, she was like making those
noises like a reptilian, y'all. I'm just trying to I'm
just trying to sound like her, y'all. Okay, sorry, my computer,
you know what, it's really bad because like the internet
is so bad sometimes that like my eyes look like
they're glitching out, and so people are like, oh, yeah,

(58:33):
I'm sure she's a reptilian or something. I guess. I
think it's kind of funny, But.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
You're a g I see my eyes.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Do you see my eyes? They're not natural? You know, Oh, glit,
it's funny. Rights is glitching out, y'all. Tune in, y'all,
tune in to watch my eyes glitch out from my
bad internet connection. But h but anyways, yeah, yeah, that's

(59:04):
gonna be a good movie too that comes out the
Disclosure Day. I think that's going to be interesting. And
I wonder why it's coming out in June, Like what
what is the significance of the release date? Heeric.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
So, all I can say is keep an eye for
out on January first is going to start and happen
from January first on.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Okay, can you elaborate.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
More of a Rumble topic. Let's say there's changes amongst
certain things in our lives that's going to start taking
place from January first on. I'm not sure what I
could say without getting you in trouble. Okay, A lot
of stuff I've talked about on Rumble is getting ready

(59:53):
to start happening from January first on.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Okay, Well, that's that's actually cool. I mean, we've got
a lot of disclosure. We just had three eye outlass
passed by us on Thursday night, Okay, late Thursday night,
early Friday morning. Uh, we had three eye outlets passed
by and nothing really happened. Uh. Of course I've heard
people that are like, we've all gotten upgrades, you know,

(01:00:17):
and uh, and I think maybe we maybe we did.
I mean I think maybe we did a weeken humanity
more just from the fact that the mainstream news was
talking about it, you know, open people up. But I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I don't know it it was just a meteor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
You think. You don't think there were like reptilians and
aliens on board?

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
No, No, I think it was just an asteroid.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I bet it was full of dog men.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
At least it wasn't full of people like me. We'd
be boned.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
It might have been. I've actually been told I was
told a long time ago when this first like got popular,
before before it went like super mainstream. A friend of
mine was like, those are our, that's ours, Like I
was full of humans on board, Like it was like
space force, is what I was told by my insider friend.
But like, I don't know. My remote viewing data was

(01:01:14):
weird because it changed. I was tasked at target three
times eric and the first two times it was like
reptilian overlord takeover. And then the last time I was
given that is another blind target. It was like love
and light. It saw love and light and it's here
to awaken humanity. So I don't know. It's that was

(01:01:35):
kind of weird. There was a flip.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
A certain group of people trying to maintain power over
the We can say it, oh you can, like I
didn't want to get in. They were trying to get
control of us. And one other means was a fake
alien invasion, which coincidently was supposed to take place around

(01:02:00):
the time of three Iye Atlas.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yes, they were going to use it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I've actually we talked about that on Thursday night with
Jane and Garrel about how they were actually planning to
use They h they never let a good you know,
tragedy go to waste or of any kind of event
like that, and that's what they were planning to do.
I informed the audience about that before, so we know, yeah,

(01:02:26):
uh that is so, that is so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, that's what. And I said the whole time is
like there ain't nothing to this three Iye at List
and everybody's like, yeah there is. Okay, I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Well it could have been it could have been way worse.
And you know, and it's like we say, like our
words are important and the way we speak about things,
and that's why they pump all this negativity in the
news and like broadcasts all over the world like lostyle
alien spaceship headed towards Earth, you know, and uh, and
then you got the majority of like a lot of

(01:03:02):
us are like, it's probably not probably not that bad,
you know, don't don't buy into the hype.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I got something for you for your remote viewing, and
make would be what caused it to throw off. This
is something that people do not consider at all. Think
how many planets have been destroyed that creates meteors and asteroids.
Correct on these meteors and mears and asteroids is DNAs

(01:03:29):
of different life forms. Even our DNA is found amongst
the stars and these asteroids and meteors. So when your
remote unit, you very well could have been picked up
on some DNA trace that was left on it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Some DNA traces, Yeah, could have been I mean, there
were some people that were saying it was actually full
of reptilians and they were coming to I don't want
to say kidnamp. They were coming to take all the
star seeds off the planet, which is kind of weird
because I know a lot of people who consider themselves
star seeds and are here to help awaken humanity and stuff.
You know, I've spoken at several star seed events myself just.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Saying, yeah, I don't know enough about that topic to
have an edumicated guess on it. You know, like I said,
my realistic dreams, I've heard people talking about having the
same stuff. You know, I've had realistic dreams where you know,
I got shot in a chest and woke up and
had a big old red bruise mark on my chest
from exactly where I got shot at my dream. I mean,

(01:04:28):
I've had way several dreams of that. Yeah, I mean,
I've done videos on them because I was like, I
want to get these out there. That was my way
of telling people about my dreams that I've had these
realistic dreams that I've had that I've woke up with
red mark scratches and places that I can't reach with myself,
so I couldn't have done it in my sleep. I
mean I remember one of them. I got shot in

(01:04:49):
the back right and I square my back when I
was a old Lakota man running through the through the
prairie and got shot in the back by the cavalry
and I woke up and I I had a red
spot about the size of a bullet in the middle
of my back. I mean, I had dreams where I
fought aliens, where I fought demons, where I felt fought
other dimensions, where certain where a Nazi's actually one World

(01:05:12):
War two and you know they control the world. I mean,
I have all these weird dreams, and every time something
happened to me in that dream, I woke up and
had a mark lift on me from that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Whoa, you know what? That makes me wonder our dreams
like us? I mean, wait, like you ever see that
show Quantum Leap, You know what I mean? That show
and the guy like wakes up and he always like
ends up in another body and another dimension. Basically you're
like another and another timeline, I guess you could say.

(01:05:43):
And I remember watching, Yeah, that was a great show.
That was one of my favorite shows to watch when
I was a kid. And it makes you wonder now,
Like I just feel like me personally, I don't feel
like my life is linear, Okay, I don't. I feel
like I've probably have died many times this lifetime and
I'm just like quantum shifting into other timelines, do you

(01:06:06):
know what I mean? Like, I just there's no way,
there's no reason I should still be alive right now, y'all,
from all the things that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
I Dreams are a pathway. Dreams have meaning, have purpose.
Dreams truly are a pathway. Now depending on what that
pathways telling you in that dream depends on what type
of pathway it is. But dreams are definitely a pathway.

(01:06:33):
And you know, sometimes it shows you in another life
that you're living in another area. Sometimes it's a past life,
sometimes it's a future life. Sometimes it's a message that
the gods are trying to give to you, but you
can only interpret it through dream. It's like I talk
about on my show all the time. It's like when
I have an animal from nature come to me, you know,

(01:06:53):
say who can the moun come and talk to me?
Or a deer or a rabbit or a squirrel, whatever
it is. When they come and talk to me, and
and they lock eyes with me, and and they communicate
to me directly, they're close by. Always say thank you
my brother and sister for visiting me. If you have
a message for me, please deliver it to me. And
they dream and a language that I understand. The key

(01:07:15):
word is dream. That is what you're supposed to do
because we forgot to have to talk to them. So
the only way we could communicate is through dream. The
key word dream.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Okay, well, some some people would say that what we're
we're in right now is a dream. And uh, and
my friend doctor Ram came on the show, Richard Alan
Miller came on and uh and he said, he said,
this life is all just a dream. We can change it.
We can manifest whatever we want, and we can. I love, Well,

(01:07:48):
I mean, you just gotta you gotta, you gotta learn
how to manifest it, you know what I mean, and like,
get on that get on that vibe and and and
just change it. Like it's not like we're in a
simulation or a video game kind of like you can
look at it like that, you could and like just
just experiment, you know what I mean. And uh, but
he said, he said, what do you think happens when
we die? He said, we wake up? That's what you

(01:08:08):
told me. And I was like, dang, that is deep,
Like I really had to think about that. That's really
it's I still think about that all the time at
this point. I think about that a lot, because yeah,
this what I mean, what we're in right now could
could be a dream.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Maybe we are just like Timeline jumping all the time.
And you know, uh, depending upon our frequency in our
vibration is like what the next timeline we jump onto?
Just like that movie, that show Quantum Leap. It was
a TV show, And I don't know, I don't know.
I feel like I live in crazy town half half
the time. I choose to jump into these worlds where

(01:08:50):
I'm chasing bigfoot dog men and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Why not keep like, do you't realize I hunt monsters
on the weekend for fun?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I'm like, are you really trying to come at me?
And I go out and I sleep in a hammock
in the middle of dog man country, and you think
I'm worried about you? Really? I know, it's funny, Eric,
people don't. I don't think some people get it, you
know what I mean. And we're all a little crazy. Okay,
We're all a little crazy because we got to be.
We got to be to do the things that we do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
I'm just a normal one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
I know, we're the norm. We're normal, normal, normal with
air quotes. Yeah, I mean, what is normal anymore? I
don't even know what normal? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Oh man?

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, oh hey, Andrew Andrew says in the TV show
Quantum Leap he tried to fix the lives of the
people to have positive effects.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Man, well that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
And knowing knowing some of my friends that I that
i've you know, brought all my shows that have are
part of some of these secret space programs. And like
my friend Archie he claims to be a time traveling
time cop and stuff. And I know some of the
some of the things that a lot of my friends,
like James Reake even would talk about like it's so
out there to the normal, to the normis the real normies, okay,

(01:10:24):
and uh, but but it's not. It's not that far fetched,
you know what I mean, These things are not that
far fetched and uh. And these are things like you know,
you you you spend a lot of time in the military.
You spent a lot of time overseas, uh in you know,
in the Middle East and stuff, and you know all
about stargates and time travel. I know you've you've heard
about it. I don't know if you had any kind

(01:10:46):
of involvement or anything like that. I'm not going to
ask you that, but I do know that you are
familiar with it because we talked about it on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Time travel was actually is something that predates humans without
a doubt. The person that refined it far as humans
go is Nikola Tesla. Nikola Tesla is the one that
kind of really brought it for human purposes when it
comes to like stargates. Yeah, I mean there's too many

(01:11:15):
stuff out there, even with the old old Yeah, exactly, Susie, exactly.
I wasn't. Yeah, and I got both of them books,
audio and paperback. But yeah, you want to know about
time travel. But she's talking about right there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Uh yes, let me read it for the audience. Okay.
It says, uh, let's see, Susie Marshall, Thank you, Susie.
It says Baron Trump is supposed to be a time traveler.
And that's not Baron, it's the whole It's the whole
Trump family.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, it's not that one. I thought it was that one.
I must have the other one in my room. But
I'm telling you, you will crap your pants when you
read it and you go, holy shit, that's happening today.
I mean it's yeah, yeah, I need to read that.
This is the first one here. This is the first

(01:12:10):
of the Baron Trump series. This one here. I've got
the other one in my bedroom. That's why it's not
holding up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Let me, let me let me make your your hold
it back up. Eric, I'm making your picture bigger so
you can see it. Baron Trump's marvelous under what does
that say?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Under drown Journey. This is the first of the series
right here, And this was written by Ingalls or Ingersoll
Lockwood in eighteen was it eighteen? Where to Go eighteen something?

(01:12:48):
It was kind of late eighteen hundreds is when this
was written. But the other one I'd have to go
to my bedroom to find it. It is. Uh. It
talks about time traveling to the future, and everything he
talks about is actually here today.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
They well, they say that the Trump family. I guess
Donald Trump's uncle was supposed to have been friends with
Nikola Tesla. I believe either his uncle.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
He's the one that got part of Tesla's journals for
a good reason.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
Yes, there was a trunk I heard there was a
trunk of papers that he took at his death or
before or after his death, I think. And it didn't
involve the time travel technology and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
So yeah, another lot of stuff you want to talk
about is John F. Kennedy Junior's magazine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
Oh yeah, that's right. Yes, Oh okay, so that see
where you're going with this. That's what you're talking about
around January first, it's got to do with the seventeenth
letter of the alphabet. I know what you're talking about.
I thought that's what you're talking about. But that is
a logical conversation, right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Yeah, a lot of things are fixing the things.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Yeah, I'm here for it, man, I'm excited about it.
I've actually been following that from the beginning. Okay, even
when people are like it's a psyop and stuff, I'm
still following it. I don't care. It's still interesting if
it's a syop or not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Okay, So I pose a question to you and your
your subscribers, and I talked about this on William's show
Friday night. We talk about the veil being opened, right,
being thinned out and open. Yes, our ancestors communicated and
dealt with these things that we are now talking about

(01:14:45):
today on this show that we have very little evidence
of correct. Right. My theory, just mine. This is not
had nothing to do with the Kypter hunters anything. It's
my my theory, opinion, my hypothesis, through my research and
my understanding and my research is we are fixing to

(01:15:08):
jump into a higher dimensional way of being. We'll be
jumping into the fourth and fifth dimensional way of being
of thinking, seeing, knowing everything. What if that's what our
ancestors were before we were brainwashed, And it's so called
veil that we're talking about, is actually reopening our eyes
to what's out there that our ancestors knew about.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean it's just it's connecting
all the dots too. It's like, I think that humans
were much different, were definitely on a different vibrational frequency
back in the day. I mean when it came to
having all the bills and that the cathedrals which were
healing centers, and they're always actually like why were there

(01:15:51):
no bathrooms in there and stuff? Well, maybe our bodies
didn't have to produce all that waste back in the day,
you know what I mean, I don't know half what what.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
What happens to your body, your waist, whenever you discrete
it and let it biodegrade, it turns into top soil.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Top soil. Oh yes, humous, I guess right, Yes, I
know what you're talking about. That's interesting. Yeah, things were
much different at some point and after one of the
last resets or before one of the last resets, I guess,
so this is for entertainment purposes only as always, But yeah,

(01:16:34):
I mean, uh, there's been an there's been an uptick
in a lot of sightings of interest dimensional creatures and beings.
I believe, like these rakes or the pell crawlers that
I've been covering a lot lately, and you know, we're
kind of putting it out there, like, well, maybe the
floods that were happening were causing all of these pell

(01:16:54):
crawlers to come out of the caves and the mines
that they're living in, and that's why we're seeing so
many more right now. Or also maybe it also has
something to do with us being on a different frequency.
Maybe we are changing as far as our planet goes,
changing the frequency of the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Here, here's another thing riddled me this. We were talking
about this in beginning of the show. You your words
create things, right, Yes, something that some things felled off
of fear. Correct, that's actually live is live off your fear.
If you say something is something when it's not, misidentificate,

(01:17:33):
misidentify it, and many more people start believing in the
same thing you have just now manifested that your words
have power. Have you seen the movie Death in your Tongue?
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Have you seen Lucy, that movie with Scarlett Johansson. You
gotta see it. It's probably my favorite movie. Actually, it's
one of my top thank you, top movie.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
And Mauriel wanted me to ask you that, and I
forgot thank you, Amuriel. He wants to know is it
possible to astro project yourself to a living person that
is awake and not in their dreams? Because I didn't know.
All I know is you can ask to project from
one dream to someone else's dream. Can somebody actually project
astro project themselves to somebody that's awake?

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
H That's an interesting question, Amariel. And uh, you know,
I I've seen it in different forms actually, and uh,
I do have a lot of people who try to
monitor me, okay, And I know that I got a
lot of nosy folks that I've had to banish, okay.
And uh it actually, as a matter of fact, when
my team was learning remote viewing a long, long long

(01:18:48):
time ago, we would we would get people would drop
in and spy on us and stuff, and we could
actually see them I saw them in a form of
like a go let the go ghost, kind of like
a hologram a little bit like I would see that.
But I do think the orbs could be that as well. Okay,
I think orbs could do be that. You know, when

(01:19:09):
I was I woke up one night when I lived
and I had an apartment in Atlanta, and and I
was I think it was definitely around the time I
was learning remote viewing, but I woke up to like
orbs in my bedroom one night, sparkly lights in the
corner of my room, and I didn't know what they were.
And then in the future, let's fast forward a few years,

(01:19:31):
I decided to remote view that, like what were those orbs?
And then in the process of doing it, I realized,
oh my god, I I was those sparkly lights and
it was actually me that I was seeing in the future,
coming back to find out what those sparkly lights were
in the past. Okay, so that's weird too, Eric, Okay,

(01:19:53):
that's weird, but it is what it is. So but yeah,
that's that's interesting. Yeah, they probably could show up as
orbs tho astral projective. I don't know. Protect your home band,
Eric all I want to tell the audience tonight, you guys,
protect your home from people who are trying to energetically intrude. Okay,

(01:20:16):
we can, we can protect our homes okay from that.
And and no one has a right to come in
your house and like invade your privacy like that, okay,
and uh. And it's all about the intent. It's all
about the intent. And there are a lot of really
crappy people out there that would try to do that, okay.
And uh. And Chicky Blue says through mirrors and stuff, Yeah,

(01:20:37):
a lot of people will will put blankets over their mirrors.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
I just actually had a really great show with Sherry
Divvan and Tyler Kwala last week, and we got into
this conversation about how demonic entities and like dark entities
could come into your home through mirrors and cell phones
and television screens and stuff. And uh, and you can
prevent that from happening. What is that? Eric?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Protection? Protection? Old the Norse ruins of protection, their names
and their meetings. I got to put them up around
my doorways and entrances to my home.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Yes, well we need we've got to put up protection.
You know, you don't always have to cover your mirrors.
You just have the intention of like not letting anything
come through that mirror. Okay, do your mirrors, yeah, yeah,
stuff like that. I mean, you know, we're in an
age and time where we're aware of these things at

(01:21:35):
this point. And uh, and there are people that are
that are just have bad intentions, that are out there
that do stuff like that, who are just a bunch
of creeps. Okay, So protect yourselves and your families all.
Don't live in fear, but set up the intention of
protecting energetically protecting your home, your room, your child, your property.
Every night, okay and every day put on that full

(01:21:58):
armor of God. And that includes protecting your home as
well from energetic astral projectors and stuff. So yeah, I
never knew how creepy people could be till I started
talking about remote viewing. People are like, oh, I'm going
to remote view you, and I'm like, no, you're not. Okay,
So yeah, things get weird, y'all. But in this like

(01:22:19):
I said, this day and age, like we're having these
pell crawler sightings, We're having dog men's sightings, Like it
is outrageous the amount of cryptid sightings people are having
today and I think it's because we're just shifting in
the frequencies. Okay, that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Yeah, shout out to Muriel. Dude, you're a badass. Thank you, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Let's see. Oh, thank you. Thank you Mario. You're faster
than me on these comments tonight. Eric, thank you, e
Muriel Dark Flame, thank you You're awesome. Thank you Emiel.
That's so sweet of you. Thank you for that supersticker.
I appreciate that so much.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
No, I mean, I mean, we do have to protect
ourselves in many ways, not only just words, but we
got to protect ourselves because you got to think. Okay,
so we're talking about you know, wear cats, and we're
talking about dog Man, and we're talking about you know,
some other stuff on the show tonight. A lot of
these things have to do with supernatural just as much
as it does cryptid. So you have to protect your
home from these things. That's why I started, not the

(01:23:22):
main reason, but one of the reasons why I started
getting you know, my family's Norse, So I started getting
Norse ruins of protection to start putting up around my home.
Of course, there's something not here good now, It's why
I grab something and put it on real quick. That's
why I was looking around because felt something unpleasant. So

(01:23:43):
I had to grab my protection and put it on.
I mean, this is stuff you got to do. You
go with the words, You got to text yourself with symbols,
with with with energy, with thought. You have to protect yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Yes, protection is key at all times. And and so
we got to do that. And a lot of these
things that we're experiencing out here, we've kind of established
that not all these like cryptiscitings we're seeing. It's not
all I'm not seeing. It's not all flesh and bone,
but there's something spiritual about it, especially if some of
these creatures are being created. I guess you could say

(01:24:18):
through black magic. Okay, that's that's very concerning to me.
Very Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Well, you got to think you can bring this curse
upon you by asking for it. Somebody can put that
on you as well. So I mean, you have to
do this. This is something that's important. You don't have
to ask for this to be put on you. Somebody
can put it on you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Somebody, Wait, somebody can make you into an s walker
without you knowing. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Look at look at who doing voodoo? You know, voodoo
talks about it all the time. You know. They somebody
will go to a voodoo you know, which, a priest,
whatever you want to call them, Well, we'll take you
go to them. It's like, hey, I want this curse
put upon this person, and all of a sudden they're
now cursed with the rugaru or whatever it is they want,

(01:25:17):
or made into a zombie or or this. They just
need an essence of you, something that is you. That's
all they need.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
I do not consent. I do not consent. Okay, none
of us should. What the heck? That's wild, that's really wild.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Yeah, curses, same thing. Curses are done the same way.
I mean. Yeah, that's why I'm not saying that word. Bro,
I'm not saying that word. U s w baby, I'm
not saying that word.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Man. You know what we actually so last last Saturday night,
my good friend Long Island Bigfoot might who's who's in
the chat tonight? He came on the show with me
and he told us about He told us a bunch
of different encounters that he's had up in New York,
right the Catskill Mountains and the Adirondacks, and one of
them was about the big dou wu. I know you

(01:26:18):
don't ever say the W word, but it was what
he saw, what he was projected to him. At least
he saw the typical big W with the with the
horns and all. And that's actually I've been told that
that's not usually what they look like. They actually looked
more like a pell crawler, like a zombie pell crawler

(01:26:38):
kind of. But that's what he saw, and I know
William was in the chat. William said, well, that was
probably a trickster spirit that was kind of projecting that
onto you like that, that's what you what you saw.
I don't know what what do you think about that?
When you, you know, think about the big W, which
you probably don't think about it often. I know you
don't want to, but they can you describe that way?

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Yeah? There I actually made. They've pictured as very very
very close to what a big W is. Let me
find it. But yes, it what people think of. Why
are you starting to do this again? I'm trying to

(01:27:23):
do this in the dark, all right, y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
That's not my dog this time, that's my kid. Okay,
he doesn't feel good, so he's snoring tonight, y'all. Hear
that he's right behind me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
It's a hurt. Yeah, Bro, there's a reason why I
grab what I grab and why I keep looking at
my window.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
Bro, why are you looking out your window?

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Eric?

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Is there something out there? M hm see Eric, You
guys Eric, If y'all will remember, if you're new to
the channel, Eric actually has a clan or a family
of bigfoots that live on his property.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
For this, ain't it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
This ain't thing something else?

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Eric?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
You got your your freedom fries next to you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
No, but I've got I've got I got my pigstickers.
But I had to grab something to put on here
to because it's something. Yeah, I'm gonna show you two
pictures here and uh, I'm trying to get him set
up here. Uh this, I'm going to show you what

(01:28:37):
people think a big W is and I'm going to
show you what a big w looks like. So I'm
getting the first one ready, I think. Okay, I wonder
if it's better if I send it to you and
you download it. Well, we'll try. We'll try screens share
screen don't work, I can send it to you, okay,
and then we can go that route. Let me move

(01:28:59):
it over here to my other screen real quick. I'm
waiting on it to finish loading. Thank you, bro. Yeah
you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I just came
up quick. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Marie says, stay strapped or get clapped. That's my motto marine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Okay, there's this is the one that that people most
commonly associate the big deb you. Yes, that is the
most common depiction. Okay, Okay, that's false. That is false.
I'll let you drop that down and I'll find the

(01:29:45):
other one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Okay, Yeah, that's that's what That's what Mike described what
he saw actually for like a fleeting moment.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Yeah, that's something el well.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
That's that's why William said, Well, that was probably a trickster,
like you know, like we have spear Finger out there
in the Appalachians and she's she's a they say she's
a shape shifting demon actually, but she's some sort of
a witch and she can look like just about anything,
but she's normally in the form of an old lady,

(01:30:21):
an old woman rooming through the woods. All right, tell
me when you're ready and I'll pull it up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I hate the wrong one. Okay, there
it is, So let me open this one up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Steve said, pew pew pew if needed.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
This is what they're going to look like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Only is the last resort. Steve. Yeah, that looks like
a pell crawler zombie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
That's why I think people are misidentifying what they actually are.
But they're gaunt, skin ripped away from their mouths, the
red eyes, I mean, they're just they're very gaunt and emaciated. Okay,
we're all stop.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
Dang it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
But yeah, that's that's what they actually look like.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Okay, So I have a question for you, Eric, I
have a question for you. What exactly is a pel
crawler in your opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Of what the big w Yeah, I think it's a trickster.
I think it's something that somebody manifested with the words
of their mouth. I think it's a misidnification. I could
be wrong. That's what I think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Okay. Well, I was joking around about how skinny they were,
and I was like, I could totally take one on, right,
And I was joking around, and then of course Corey
was in the chat and was like, oh no, he was.
He let me know. He was like, no, they've been
known to take on dog men and uh and mall
them and stuff. I'm like, I don't know, I had

(01:32:11):
not I don't know if I had heard that before.
They don't look like they'd be a formidable opponent. Okay,
but you don't want to mess with the trickster, okay you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Trickster is known by many, many names, different forms throughout
different cultures. In most of your native cultures, trickster is
coyote in in Norse mythology, trickster is looky fox, is
known as some. Owl's known as some. I mean, these
things are known by different names through different cultures. Every
culture has yeah, every every culture is known to have

(01:32:50):
a type of trick trickster spirit. Beware of trickster, strickster.
They're not good. And I think it's a lot of
stuff that people are seeing that they're coming up that
you don't hear about in history. You're only hearing about
them in recent years. I think that's either a that's
a demon manifesting itself in that in that form to

(01:33:11):
feed off of your fear, or B it's a trickster
missing with you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
Well, I would I would assume. I mean, if they're
if they're you know, a big threat, then they've got
to be a trickster, okay, because they just they don't
look when you see them. We have I've shown some
videos of them on Thursday Night and they're just tall, lanky,
they walk on four legs sometimes two, and they're just
kind of hunched over. They just look like they don't

(01:33:40):
look like a whole lot. Like you could close line
them and they'd be cool. Do a little d DT
to them, you know what I mean. See I am
out there, I have to know, I have to know
how to protect myself. So I'm always looking to see,
like how I can take one down bad to but
apparently I probably can't. I don't know. I just I
think they run in like groups too sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
So you know, I go out, I look for cryptives,
I look for supernatural, I look for paranormal, depending on
what I'm dealing with. It's a type of protection I'm
taking with me, usually cryptids and supernatural. What I got
under my shirt, what I just put on a little
bit of go that is one of my big protections

(01:34:22):
is and that's why I put it on a little
bit ago. This is one of my protections against these
type of things. And I don't I can show what
it is. I can't show the contents. If I show
the contents, it loses its power. But this is why
I grab this, and this is something I take on

(01:34:42):
me when I go crypted or not crypted. Yeah, some
cryptids and mostly supernatural. When I'm going out investigating them,
I've got this with me. I try not to put
it on. Hey, okay, bro, take it easy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Thank you, William. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Is that is that?

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
It's like a protection some protection items. Is that what
that is? Yeah? Is very spiritual, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Yeah. You also have to be careful with this too,
because wearing this while doing it can also keep it
from coming to you where you won't find the evidence
that you're looking for. So it's it's a dice game
when I mean, this stuff ain't nothing to play with.
This is uh, this is nothing to play with, and

(01:35:34):
I urge you guys to take that cold heartily. Yes.
Is it fun? Is it's exciting? Absolutely it is, folks.
I learned the very hard way. This is not something
you go out and do unless you know what you're doing,
because bad things happen. There's a reason why I carry
certain things with me when I'm doing this stuff, because

(01:35:58):
I learned the hard way. What happens if you don't.
So I encourage you guys. That's what I was wondering, William,
thank you. Uh, that's kind of what I felt too.
I was. I think that's what's been messed with me

(01:36:19):
for the last couple of weeks. This for some reason,
it's back today. That's what I thought, Bro. Thank you.
You confirm something for me. And I appreciate that. Bro.
You know, William, William will tell you the same thing.
This is no joke, man, I mean, is it? Is it? No?
It's not fairies. And I need to get to thank you, bro.

(01:36:43):
I need to get some here. I can't even find
my sage. I think my daughter took my sage bundle.
But cleansing yourself, your home, your your stuff. There. There's
reasons why I have certain practices I do when I
go out on the investigation. And it's not the click
for clickbait. I know a lot of people do it

(01:37:04):
for clickbait. That is not This is actual ceremonies that
you're supposed to do to protect yourself from this. You
can't just go out and go will and nearly do
this and think, oh, there's nothing going to happen to
me and then all of a sudden, you're black as
shit because you got something that messes with you. There's
a reason why when I was on that Werewolf investigation,

(01:37:26):
I left early. I was unprepared. I didn't have everything
I thought I needed, and I knew something bad what's
going to happen. You have to be smart when you're
dealing with this stuff. This is no joke. These things
we're talking about on tonight's show, they're no joke. This
is nothing to play around with. These things can unlive you.

(01:37:48):
These things can wreak havoc on your life. Upsetting the
fae can mess with your life. Unseting cryptigs can mess
with your life, unset you know, just anything, just they supernatural, cryptids,
all this stuff, even the paranormal, paranormal's light compared to

(01:38:08):
supernatural encryptids, even paranormal can reac havoc on your life.
Because if you got to do the right thing, and
this is what I want people to understand. We go
out and do this stuff, absolutely, but you have to
be smart. And I did. I learned a lot of
things the hard way, the very very hard way, you know,

(01:38:30):
And and I encourage people not to do it. That
when I took my daughter on her first paranormal investigation.
I didn't bring her with me on an initial investigation.
I do initial investigation for a reason. I want to
know what I'm dealing with when I come into this place,
because I know I want to know how I act.
Wanted to protect myself from this, Okay, And yes, supernatural

(01:38:54):
pin fool you. I've had an incident where I thought
I was this was just a normal typical light needs
paranormal hunt, no big deal. In the middle of my
investigation of this place, it turned south quick. That can happen.
It absolutely can happen. And yeah, and I'm in touch

(01:39:18):
with my gift and discernment very well. I can sense
these things coming on very easily. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Uh, yeah, I wanted to mention something real quick, Eric,
because somebody in the chat had said, we need the
spiritual and the physical protection. We also had to put
up psychic protection as well, especially to people who are
open open to that. Okay, And I know we're all
psychic now everybody, not everybody utilizes that as much as

(01:39:50):
some of us do. And so you've got to put
up all the protection, okay, And that includes psychic protection
as well. Because and and that's really wild because in
this in this day, like we have all these frequency
weapons and things that are actually they can affect us
physically spiritually and psychically spiritually, Okay, And so that's like

(01:40:14):
artificial stuff that's not just like the paranormal. That stuff
that's like directed weapons and stuff, if y'all know what
I mean at us these days, and some of it
could come through our frequencies in our it's for entertainment
purposes only, but our TVs, ur wifis, our cell phones
and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
So be careful. Even like when I gave you remote
viewing targets, and there's some of us said I don't
want to give you because the level of what's going
on here, because I'm always in fear of what can
happen to you because some of these things are very strong,
they're very ancient, and I know that because I can
feel it. So you go in there with your remote

(01:40:54):
viewing abilities, which I don't know much about it. I'm
still learning. And you're turning me into a pert good
believer because you've been pretty dang accurate on the couple
for me, So farget, Yeah, you've been pretty pretty spot
on on target. But uh, when you go into that,

(01:41:16):
you're going into another You're going into their dimension, You're
going into their frequency, their waveley where they're more powerful.
So that's why I'm always cautious. Like, man, I really
like this, but this is something that you don't mess with.
And that that's me being me. I'm very protective and

(01:41:36):
that's why I do this stuff. And this is I
learned this the hard way.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Oh yeah, we all learned the hard way. Eric, That's
the only way for me. I've always learned the hard way. Yeah,
a lot of us do the hard way. Yeah, but
there's a lot more to this, you know, uh than
just going out and I mean even when we're out
there looking for bigfoot and stuff. I mean, and see,

(01:42:04):
here's the problem with what's going on with you right
now is you're at your house, you know what I mean,
Like you're at home, and we don't want things to
to bug us and we're at our house. You know
that's not optimal.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
Okay, using one method of putting some protection, some protection,
it's not as good as I needed to be, but
it'll do good for now. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Good, Well, we we can, we can, we can shut
the show down here pretty soon we can kind of
bring it to a close because I know you've got
a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Either way, I'm good either way. It's it's backed off.
But that's why I'm putting this stuff up. Okay, uh,
but yeah, I mean, it's it's all, you know. I
love this stuff. I love learning about the stuff. I
love writing about the stuff. But I also love to
inform you about this stuff. And now I want everybody
to learn. You may think I'm a quack. Hey whatever,

(01:43:00):
float your boat. Man. You know I can give you
the tools. It's it's up to you to use those tools.
I ain't going to force you to use them tools.
I just don't. I'll give you the tools, I'll tell
you how to use them tools. I can't force you
to use them tools. So I mean, if you don't,
you don't believe what I got to say, don't believe
we got to say. Man, I'm sorry, that's luck to you. Yeah,

(01:43:23):
it's all I'm gonna say. I'm not trying to be mean,
but it's just how it is. And I learned this
from from being taught by elders. I've learned this from
being taught by friends and brothers. I've learned this from
learning my by myself, because I made stupid mistakes when
I was younger. I mean, I'm not afraid I was stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Eric, that's you know, that's where wisdom. That's where wisdom
comes from comes from. It's from all the bad decisions
we made throughout our lives and learning the hard way. Yeah,
I learned the hard way. I am a very eyes
woman for my age. Okay, you're you're you're.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
That's why I love being on with you. I love
having me on because you've got some intelligence there. I mean,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
I was kidding, but I do appreciate that you do.
You know, yes, you know, in dumb my whole life
for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
So you know, Yeah, my late grandpa, I love the
man to death and I miss him. Uh. He was
more of a father to me and my own sperm donor.
You know, I've never met my sperm donor. He left
when I was two months old. You know, my great
grandpa was a huge male figure in my life. He

(01:44:41):
was I looked up to him like a father figure
and something he taught me that I will never forget.
He goes. Boy, you learn until the day you die,
and even on the day that you die, you still
are learning something new. So we're always lying here, We're

(01:45:02):
always involved.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
Man, I like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
I strive to learn something new every single day. I
really do. And uh, and I always learn it. I
think I said that in the beginning of the show tonight.
I was like, every time I watch you and your
show and you and William together too, I always learned something. Yeah,
it never.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
He is he is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Yeah, So are you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Like you? I'm still I'm still edumacating myself.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Yeah, well meet you. And well you have a lot
of wisdom yourself, Eric, you have a lot of wisdom.
I can tell you've had an interesting life just like
I have. Oh, man, I know, Well, I don't know.
I think this has been a pretty fantastic discussion tonight, Eric.

(01:45:55):
And and I know you've got to You've got a
lot of stuff going on over there, and uh and
so and I've got it. I've got a kid that
I need to probably go go nurse a little bit tonight.
He is not feeling so great. And so, yeah, I
don't know, I've really enjoyed this. I mean, we really
really took a nice deep dive into those feline creatures. Actually,

(01:46:16):
and I think that I some questions that I had
were definitely answered tonight as far as like the origins
of them. Of course, we also have the extraterrestrial feline
felines as well. End up before we go tonight. Actually,
I'll pull up this. I have a website. It's on
the Lyrins. I believe it's the Lyrins.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
That's what I was trying to think of.

Speaker 1 (01:46:36):
Yes, let's see, let's pull this up. Galactic warriors. Okay,
I actually have friends who believe they are Lyrian.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
Uh well, all right, I don't wishee anything.

Speaker 2 (01:47:04):
Yeah, that's messing with it again.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Yeah, all right, that's not it. All right, never mind,
We're just gonna take that down because I don't know
what that is, all right, Yeah, my computer is about
Oh yeah, let's see. Oh oh, thank you Michelle for
the supersticker. I appreciate that so much. That's so sweet
of you. Thank you for your support. It means the

(01:47:30):
world to me. Okay, I was going to show the
website with the lyrics, but it's not will come up.
So uh But but they are like lion headed humanoids.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Okay, I've heard of those type of it. Ain't there
different ones too, if memory serves me correctly, because I
think I've heard reports of different style, not just the
lion ones, but leopard styles very similar, not house domesticated,
but similar to domesticated cheetah doll. I could be wrong.

(01:48:02):
I don't know enough about it to have a good
guess this is the stuff I kind of heard.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Oh yeah, there's probably all sorts of them. The majority
of the ones that I've actually seen depicted are lion
headed humans, So.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
I don't know. I do know.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
There was one time that I was given a remote
viewing target and it turned out to be an anomalous
creature like a camp like somewhere were there all being held,
like some kind of like a facility where anomalists creatures
were being held. It's supposed to be some kind of
top secret place. And Barry had given me this target

(01:48:42):
and it was one of those blind targets where like
I got into this target and I immediately made contact
with a lion headed humanoid and I was I mean,
it was a direct connection to whatever. And it may
have been a leerin I'm not sure, but whatever it was,
it just wanted to connect with me, and it was
in this facility and it wanted me to know that

(01:49:02):
it was there and didn't want to be there. Okay,
it didn't want to be there. And this is somewhere
on Earth. This was on Earth, and uh, so I
do believe they do exist. I mean maybe, I mean
I could have been making contact with something in another dimension,
but I don't think so, because the target was here
on Earth, in this three dimensional reality that we live in.
So I do believe they do exist and us. Matter

(01:49:25):
of fact, I had a friend of mine that reached
out to me today and said something about like how
she believes that she might be Leran and uh and
she's she's seen herself as a Learan before, she said,
and it was she was like, she was like, well,
I just want to let you know I watch your
I watch your shows and stuff, and I just wanted
to thank you because you say things that make me

(01:49:47):
feel like I'm not crazy, you know, for for you know,
knowing what I know and knowing you know. And actually
my platform here like allows people to come in and
see that like that wor some of us are having
the same experiences. And she was thanking me for that,
So I thought that was really cool. So shout out
to my anonymous friend. She shall remain anonymous. Okay, but

(01:50:10):
but I thought that was really cool. So, I mean,
what are the what are the odds that a lot
of a lot of people that are here right now
are from other planets? And I'm not gonna say shapes,
but maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
No human humans are not from this planet. I'm sorry.
I mean the the science alone proves that. I mean,
we can go on to science level, if you want
to go onto science level. Science alone, physic physics alone
proves that we're not from this planet. We sunburn, we're

(01:50:42):
not covered in hair. We don't adapt when we don't
adapt well to this planet like everything else on this
planet does. We really don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
So I've done a little bit of dabbling in the
the oh Lirian.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
Hill billy. So he says, I'm approved. I'm approved company
in cat circles. I reckon, maybe I have a little
lyric in my genetics.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Cats like monsters are hiding out there, freaking wear cats.
I got.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Wear cats.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Oh my gosh, I got my dog men and I
got my wear cats out there them things been up my.
You know, my youngest daughter's gone again. She's doing that
traveling wagon thing where she travels around the country and
a wagon. Oh yeah, yeah, the animals are up my
butt again.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Oh no, oh my gosh. Oh man. You know, getting
back to the the wear cats that were out of
the Mark Twain National Forest that Robbie was telling us about.
Should we be worried about this? I mean, I'm out
in the woods quite a bit a lot, actually, and

(01:52:03):
at national and state parks and stuff. Should I be
worried about these cats? I mean they say that the
park readers actually shot them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
From from what I'm understanding, it depends on which type
you run across. Some. I mean they're they're just like
dog men or just like Bigfoot. There's, like a lot
of other things. You're gonna have good ones, you're gonna
have bad ones. Depends if they're sent to come after
you or not. They can be sent to come after you,

(01:52:36):
much like these other things. I mean, they absolutely can. Oh,
thank you, I'm gonna mess it up and I apologize, Hanne,
So forgive me needed, I think, is how.

Speaker 1 (01:52:50):
You say that nineteen seventy one. Thank you so much
for that. She says, I recently found both your channels,
which I love you guys cover other cryptos besides just
dog men.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
We do love dog Man, but we love other ones
too because we've experienced all that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
One. You know, I got Bigfoot clan that lives here.
You know, family, you know they living, you know, Shiah Konka,
Elder Brick Brother, the first Beans. You know, I've got
them here. I think I've had some dog Man activity
out here and I yet to be able to catch
my proof on it. Sadly, I'm kind of, hey, Boon,

(01:53:25):
how's it going. Sadly, I'm kind of, you know, hemmed
up with injuries. I'm getting ready to have knee surgery
and then I've got some other stuff going on too,
so I can't get out there as much as I
want to. And the one day that I thought I
was going to get good evidence, something told me to
come inside and I was like, man, I really want

(01:53:45):
to get this, but all my investigative equipment was in
the back seat of my car and right on the
other side of my back seat of my cars where
this thing was thumping around, and I was like shit,
I just turned around, came inside. I was like, Nope,
somethings down again. Inside. My butt's going inside.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Ye your guts, your gut, it's not your butt.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, I know it's it's uh hey, krypton.
You know, these things are very real, you know. And
and it was like I've seen a minute ago before.
I got distracted and apologized. But you know, these things
can be sent to come after you. Some of the
things that got good good attitude, some of them's got

(01:54:28):
bad attitude. It really depends on who they are. Yeah,
I know how that is needed, but uh so yeah,
I would say keep the same level protection that you
normally would do. You know the energy, you you can

(01:54:49):
sense the energy just as much as I can. You're
a little bit more in tune with stuff than I am, Jessica.
So I mean you you've got a far more experience
than I do. I just know the energies and what's
lying around. I can tell when they're coming up on me.
I could tell what kind of what mentality they're in,
and that's a huge help. You also can be fooled,

(01:55:09):
like I was talking about earlier, So just be careful.
You're mute, and.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Sweetie, I just realized that a little thinking about sounds
like it said you're muted. That's what it said. So yes, uh,
thank goodness for Streamer. They do have some good features
on there, so uh. But anyways, yeah, yeah, there's a
lot of there are trickstures out there for sure, and
we never know truly what we're dealing with. That's why

(01:55:40):
I'm not a huge fan of doing the ghost hunting
and doing the ghost box and stuff, because we just
don't know. It's cool getting the responses, but like, if
you think you're going to be talking to your relative,
you're probably not. Okay. There's a lot of things like
I've done. I've done ghost box sessions a long time
ago with a fellow who I thought I was communicating

(01:56:01):
with like my family and stuff, and I might have been.
I think I was, but we just don't know, you
know what I mean. You just never know what you're
really dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
You know. If you guys watched the Springfield Commercial Club
paranormal investigation, I did. It's it's on my YouTube. I
had an answer or a question that was answered that
I've been trying to get an answer to for a
very long time, and it's it's all there. It's all
on audio. You can hear every bit of it. And
it was it was talking about, you know, my son

(01:56:32):
and stuff like this, and I asked, are you my relative?
And it said yes, and it said can you speak
to my relatives and my loved ones? And it said
sometimes so. And this is something I've always knew about that,
And this is part of why I got into investigation,
because I wanted to be able to, oh, thank you,

(01:56:58):
Maureen this. I wanted to get some answers to these questions,
and I finally got it on that investigation.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Yeah, hey, dude, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Blackie you can Eric.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Eric has dogs and cats, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
Yeah, blackies black black or no, you're not Blackie. Near mind. Sorry,
I thought it was Blackie. Blackie loves to get up
here and hit my power switch and cut my power off.
Everything hanging right when I'm in alive or before I
go live. This one was sitting on top of my
space heater, switching it on and off.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
I'm like, come on, dude, Oh no, I heard some buttons,
heard some beeps going off. Oh, they just want to
be a party, want to be included, or they want
your attention. That's what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:57:45):
Yeah, yeah, they think they're starving, even though they eat
more than I do.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh my dog, she's always want treats.
She learned how to manipulate me during shows too. She's
a wine and stuff and she knew that I was
stuck between a rock and a hard place when I
was live on my shows, and I had to give
her dreams to keep her quiet. I do not I
do not negotiate with terrorists, by the way, unless it's

(01:58:12):
my dog. So, oh man, that's how that works.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
With terrorsts. Oh man, sorry, now they're all coming in.
Are he's talking to us?

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
Of course? Yeah, but that you know, going back to this,
we really didn't know. Uh really don't know all the time,
Like what you're you know, if you hear a voice
out in the woods or whatever, we don't know what
that is, you know. So uh, you gotta always keep
an open mind, is what I'm trying to say. Okay,
keep an open mind about everything. Hello, Kitty, is that

(01:59:00):
a learn? We have a small learn in the in
the house tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Yeah, I heard you. He ain't seen me. So he
came over.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
He's like, oh, well, Eric, this has been this has
been a really great show tonight, and I think it's
a great time. I guess we can kind of wrap
things up because it's getting late over here on the

(01:59:36):
East Coast. And uh and I have thoroughly enjoyed this
one tonight. And yeah, I think I think that feline
humanoids are going to be a bigger topic in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
I think it's going to be more common. And I
know the big topic right now is dog men and
of course wear wolves, but I do believe that these
feline I mean, I just feel like every every day,
every week, we're gonna get more more reports of different
types of humanoid animal hybrids from here on out.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:00:08):
The vell is gone mm hmmm. And also the black
the black magic is rampant as well. Yeah, speaking of
black magic, we got black cats on the screen.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
That's the trouble maker Blackie. What do you doing my mouth?

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Yeah, he's the one that likes to shut the power
off to my computer while I'm on live.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Oh my gosh. That's a smart cat. It's a smart
cat needs all your attention, it does. Oh man. Well, Eric,
like I said, thank you so much for being here tonight.
Where where can everybody find you? And uh, well, first
of all, thank you William William said, do your prayers
and protections tonight, Jessica. Here we will we always know.
I will definitely do that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
Yeah. Yeah. You can find me at the bizarready unknown
on YouTube. I'm also one Rumble uh, Instagram, Tiki Talk, Facebook, Facebook, Ye,
my author I've got to I've got a personal Facebook,

(02:01:15):
which I'm rarely on anymore, and I got my author's
author one too that you can find me on there.
I'm also on with William okay good yeah. Uh you
know that uh weim Nighthawk Hoish Strangeness podcast on YouTube,
so you can find me there as well with him. Uh.

(02:01:37):
We have a great time. We talk about a lot
of different stuff. It's a lot of fun I produce.
Like I've been starting to put out excuse me, uh,
some of my sci fi romance short stories. I'm starting
to put those out now. I've got to get back
and gear do more military versus monsters because people don't

(02:02:01):
realize how many times military runs into these creatures. Uh.
So I need to get another one of those videos
done up here soon too. I haven't done one of
those in a while. I go live sometimes when I'm
working on my book. Yeah, yeah, You can find my
books on Amazon under E dot d dot testament. You know,

(02:02:22):
go there, follow my author's fan page, comment rate my books,
you know, share them. So I mean, I'm I'm doing
all kinds of stuff. It's it's fun. It's I work
seven days a week, I really do. I got I
work four tens Monday through Thursday at my regular job,
and then Friday, Saturday and Sunday I'm doing podcast. I'm writing,

(02:02:45):
I'm researching, I'm investigating. I've got two investigations and paranormal
investigations I'm supposed to go on, but I kind of
had to put them on hold because of you know,
with recent injuries and things happening. Uh, but I'll be
doing one on the Union Can't Cemetery here soon, and
I'll be doing one at the Charity Schoolhouse here soon

(02:03:06):
as well, So I'll have some more paranormal videos to
come up here soon. And then then of course I'm
trying to catch what's going on out here as well.
If you guys like good Bigfoot vocals, I actually caught them.
I can't remember what episode it is. I think it's
like fifty nine or sixty. It's with William Nighthawk. I

(02:03:27):
believe it's label Bigfoot Vocals. I actually caught them speaking
Lakota and we thank to also Cherokee female and two
males speaking along with some other stuff. So, I mean,
everything I find I put out there, I'm not trying
to try to turn you into a believer. I'm just
going to give you what I find and it's up
to you to believe it or not. And that's about it.

(02:03:49):
I'm working on some books right now too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
Oh yeah, fair enough, man. Yes, I love. That's some
really good recordings that you have of those voices. You
can clearly hear uh male and female voices for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
Oh yeah, I've heard it. It's very intriguing, very compelling
for sure. And it's right there on your property for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
It is. Yep, that was right off my front porch. Yeah.
I mean I've had dealings with them all the time,
and and you know, I've talked about how they tap
on my window when I'm working or watching me through
the windows, and you know, people a lot of people
are like, oh whatever. I literally caught them doing that
stuff on recording. So it's fun, you know, like the females,
she said, Shawn day, which is Lakota for calm yourself.

(02:04:42):
You know you can hear it clear as day seawan day,
so it can. It's fun. I love doing this stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:04:50):
Oh yeah, I do too.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
I would like to get up there and you need there.
I'm uh Missouri. I live in Missouri. I'm said up
to retire in about nine years if everything plays out right,
and when I retire, I am going to be traveling
around doing investigations all over the United States, in the
in the world. I'm also got to be getting with

(02:05:13):
Jesus Peon Junior, the actor. I'm a good friend of
both of ours, amazing, amazing actor. He's gonna be doing
another I've been in one documentary called Byways a Bigfoot.
Most of the evidence was caught here on my place.
He's wanting me to be a documentary with him as
one of his lead investigators. So I mean, I've got

(02:05:34):
to get down there and do some investigating with with
Jesus Payon and so up North Maureen, they are called
momo growing up. That's what I know in Bigfoot, as
was momo because that's what we knew it up there
in North Missouri. Down here, they're called boogers. We even
got Booker County. Yeah, they are Brandon, So.

Speaker 1 (02:05:59):
Yeah, needed to Booger County, the county, Booger County.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
Yeah, Booger County. Southwest Missouri, right southeast Missouri. Sorry, southeast Missouri.
Yeah it's spelling, but yeah, b O O G E R. Booker. Yeah,
that's what they're called down here. They call Booger. And uh,
you know, I learned that actually from farmers when I
was young, when we first moved down here thirty three

(02:06:26):
years ago, I worked as a farm hend on several
different farms, you know, mucking, mucking hog stalls, marking, mucking
cattle stalls, mucking a bunch of other stuff, chickens, turkeys, dogs, cow.
I mean, I just worked the farms, earning a little
bit of money, bucking hay and everything else. And I
remember the old timers they were sitting there just laughing.

(02:06:48):
By god, we've seen a bugger the other day, that thing,
and just going on and on. I'm like, why are
you talking about a bugger? You know, because I'm thinking,
bugger out of your nose, booger. And they are laughing
at me. Man, they were they were pulling my leg
yarning me something fearsome because they thought it was the
funniest thing in the world. And they finally broke down
and said, no, man, you know it is the Bigfoot.
You know mo Booger. I was like, no, yeah, I

(02:07:11):
never knew they were called Booger's towp moved down here.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Well that's pretty cool. That's where. That's how you know
about them hog farms, isn't it? Isn't it?

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
I had we used to have a hog farm right here.
In fact, I'll probably haven't known before too long. Oh yeah,
now we had the hogs. We had people from fifteen
different counties that came down and bought hogs from us
instead of going to a sewborn because we had we
raised some good hogs.

Speaker 1 (02:07:36):
Oh my gosh. For bacon. For bacon purposes only.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
Just that's it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
Nothing else, bacon purposes only, don't get me wrong, idea.

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
That's sorry. H Yeah. Still Billy was asking a question,
I'm sorry, is Booger a take on the Boggy Man?
The boggy Man is something different? Oh, I'm sorry, Well, there's.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
The Boggie Creek, Monster Creek Bigfoot too.

Speaker 2 (02:08:08):
But automatically went to Boggy because we was thinking about Bigfoot.
Now Booger is is a big Foot? Yeah? Here?

Speaker 1 (02:08:19):
Oh yeah, he's a boogie Oh my god, what's going
on here? Okay, Oh my gosh, yes man, what a
great what a great Saturday night though for sure this
is this is the last Saturday before Christmas too. So
I want to just say Merry Christmas, Eric, and happy
holidays everybody. Uh that's watching the show tonight, and uh,

(02:08:42):
I hope everybody has a very blessed week and uh, yeah,
you've got me plans for the holidays, Eric.

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
Uh, your time for me? Now that my kids are gone,
my mom's passed away, I haven't done a whole lot.
I don't know what I'm going to do. Usually I'm
working on something, you know. But yeah, it's your time
for us. You know. It's Happy Yule to everybody out there.
Happy ill to you, Jessica did I don't know what's

(02:09:10):
going to go on. Honestly, I'm my birthdays and holidays
don't seem to exist anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:09:17):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
I'm always working on something.

Speaker 1 (02:09:24):
Yeah, you know, I guess it's it's it's kind of
more prominent having a small kid still here at the house.
And so yeah, I get it, you know, when when
Ben's off to college or he wants to be a marine,
just like you.

Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
Eric.

Speaker 1 (02:09:38):
Okay, so I don't know he's he's only eleven. But
one day he wants to be a marine. He said.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
So I'm man, I tell you I'm a proud uncle. Oh,
proud proud uncle. So I was at my little little
brother's house for for Thanksgiving and my nephew, I mean
the couple of weeks before my little nephew my brother
were up here. They were deer hunting. My nephew got
to help me carry that day point. Now the woods man,
he was just grinted from here to hear because he's

(02:10:07):
opening his uncle Eric carry a deer out of the woods.
You know, He's so happy and he goes, Uncle Eric,
I want to be a marine. I was like, you
want to be a marine? My boy? He's like, yeah,
Uncle Eric, I want to be a marine. I was like, dude,
you know that's awesome. I said, if you're smart, be
an officer. Don't be like me, ye know, be an officer,
you know, make something of your life and your future.

(02:10:29):
And now he's gun ho, he's going to be a marine.
He wants to be like his uncle Eric. He wants
to be a marine. So I'm like, oh my boy. Yeah,
I don't have noo sons. I got daughters. So you know,
my nephew is like a little boy to me. He's
like my boy. You know. It's I love the shit
out my little nephew. Yeah, Uncle Eric is the favored uncle.
I have all my nephews and nieces. You know, they're

(02:10:51):
all of them love her Uncleleric because I get down
and play with them and do all kinds of stuff.
We have fun.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Oh my god, I love that. So I should encourage
Ben to be an office certain right, I kind of
already have a little bit, yes, but I figured he'll
probably change his mind several times before he turns eighteen.

Speaker 2 (02:11:08):
Proudly, I know, I know, I'm not I'm not Leo.
You know. I just spent thirteen years in the military.
I was Marine Corps, Special Forces, I was marsk M
SC Scott Snipers, Yankee Whites, NBC, and I was No.
Three thirty one. I spent most of my career hunting

(02:11:30):
drug cartels pirates for a living up until nine to
eleven happened, and then we focused on that is. But
no I'm not Leo by any means. I just you know,
I'm just an old old marine grunt. N c O. Oh,
thank you, Susan.

Speaker 1 (02:11:46):
Oh, she says, you're die. You're a great uncle.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
I know. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:11:51):
Well, thank you for your service, Eric, thank you for
your service.

Speaker 2 (02:11:56):
Oh yeah, no, no, you're not going over there, because
I know exactly what you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
Oh my gosh. And I'm glad that we have to
see your pets tonight too. I always love seeing your pets.
Usually you've got your little dog on your on your chest. Okay,
ghosts ghost, he's.

Speaker 2 (02:12:13):
Guarding his pillow because punkin dog here thinks he wants
to take over his pillow. So if he gets off
his pillow, skunk dog on it and he don't want
skunk dog and call him boor skunk dog right now
because he got sprayed by a skunk. Oh god, and
I didn't have my Uh, I didn't have my Usually
I take baking soda peroxide and don diss so open.

(02:12:35):
I make a shampoo to get the cunk skunk smell
off of him, which you got to wait a day
or two before you can do it, because you got
to let it dry. Uh. But you wait a day
two and you mix that together and you make a shampoo.
He gets rid of that skunk smell. I'm out of
all that stuff. All I got, said don dis so,
So now we have to suffer with the skunk smell.
He's at my feet, and he's also got houracious farts

(02:12:56):
going on right now. That's why sometimes in the show,
I'm like spraying as he's sitting there and got the
skunk smell and farting too. But now, uh, yeah, it's
he's this little failure here. If I go live and
mysteriously disappear and get shut downs because he shut my
power off, he's a sorry. Yeah, that's like I got

(02:13:21):
the old Kentucky Rebel bottle sitting next to the pire switched.
Hope you waited him from walking on it. Uh, you
spent years hunting this. Yeah, I didn't hunt. Uh you know,
I didn't hunt the c I A but I've may
or may not have decided to see I A a
time or two. Yeah, I mean I worked a lot

(02:13:45):
with the Navy seals. I was basically a glorified Navy
seal guard. When I was MARSK we had a seal
team that we was attached to. So when there's a
seal mission that came up, we went with them on
that mission. If they were on something else in the
in the balloon popped up, then we went on it. So,
I mean, I've done everything from ship takedown with pirates
to you know, the MSc. We go into a a

(02:14:10):
embassy that's being overrun by hostiles, we go in, we
evacuate the citizens out of the embassy, and we diffuse
the situation. By it, he means possible nine times out
of ten, he cut the head off the snake and
the snake dies, and do what you gotta take. Cut
the head off snake. It's all I want to say.
But that's what I did. I loved it. I was

(02:14:33):
actually remember nine to eleven very well because I just
got off a twenty four hour due to the NCO
shift and down to fifth of Wild Turkey one to
one and climbed to my rack when we got hit.
So I was stuck in the Hawaii on the rip
with a sniper rifle, miserable. Zeill just got buried. My
first wife, I mean, was trying to get her out there.
Couldn't talk to them for a couple of weeks. When

(02:14:54):
I got to talk to him, it was a thirty
second phone call saying I'm fine, I love you, I'll
talk to you when I can. You know, of course
they're been back here is freaking out and I was
like all I say is I love you, I'm fine,
I'll talk to you and again, and that was pretty
much it. That was a conversation for three weeks? Was
it that? So it was an interesting time?

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
Whoa, Oh my gosh, I knew you you like I said,
you're a very wise man. You've been through some stuff
and You've a lot of a lot of interesting things.

Speaker 2 (02:15:29):
I'm not at that wise stage yet, but I'm still learning,
but I got some knowledge under my belt.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
Yeah you do, Hey, you do. I appreciate it, and
it's always fun having you here with me on these shows,
and especially on a fun Saturday night. I do appreciate
it so much and you're welcome, of course. Well you
guys go check out The Bizarre and the Unknown. Please
subscribe over on YouTube to Eric's channel and also tonight

(02:15:54):
Hawk High Strangers. William has been in the chat with
us as well, and you can find Eric and William
on HOWK High Strangers podcast. On the weekends and and
throughout the week sometimes to Eric right and and of
course Eric's channel, The Bizarre and the Unknown. Uh he
does live shows as well. So y'all please go and
subscribe over there, and if you haven't already subscribed to
my channel, The crypt Huntress and and I would so

(02:16:18):
much appreciated.

Speaker 5 (02:16:21):
He had to follow this young little lady over there
that game hold on nine and you'll beat them book now, thanks, Yes,
we have stuff like that I'm gonna do. I'll give
your boom goodness.

Speaker 1 (02:16:41):
On that note. I hope you'll have a merry Christmas.

Speaker 2 (02:16:48):
Blessing.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
Yes, and seasons greetings. That's right, that's this. You're so funny.
Uh yeah, I forgot what I was saying, but uh yeah,
I will y'all. I'll be back here on Monday. Okay,
I'll be back on Monday. We're gonna have another live
show on Monday for you guys, so please come and
see me then. And oh, by the way, share the

(02:17:10):
video out, hit the light button, subscribe to my channel,
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I do appreciate it, y'all. From the bottom of my heart.
I want to thank everybody who gave superstickers tonight. Let's see, Oh,

(02:17:31):
Larry Sharp gifted a membership. Thank you so much, Larry
and Amuriel, thank you for the supersticker, and Michelle thank
you for that supersticker as well. And thank you to
all my moderators for being here tonight, and all my
Hunt club members, all my Patreon members. I love you guys,
and thanks again. I hope you guys all learn something.
Please stay safe out there, y'all. And is that cat

(02:17:53):
on your head, Eric.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
See on my shoulder, on your shoulder to keep him
from showing us a little starfished everybody you'd like to
show us? Butt everybody softer.

Speaker 1 (02:18:04):
Way, We're gonna have to blur that. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (02:18:08):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (02:18:08):
Well, you guys have a wonderful night. I will see
y'all back here on Monday at one pm Eastern. Please
say say about there. Keep your head on a swivel, y'all,
don't live in fear and have a wonderful, wonderful holiday.
If I don't see you again until the holiday. All right, y'all,
have a great night, see it Eric, see you, Thanksgim
for being here. All right, bye, Y'all's it's it's so,

(02:19:15):
it's so, it's so, it's so
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The Burden

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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

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