April 13, 2025 • 50 mins
Just your average day aboard Enterprise—until the Temporal Cold War crashes the party. We’re rewatching Cold Front!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
We've come.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, trekkies and trekkers. Welcome
to another watch party episode of the dcon Chamber. As always,
I am assisted with my co host and best friend
in Los Angeles, Dominic Keating. I'm Connor treneer.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
America, all of it, all of it. I'll give you
the consonant.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, listen, America's America is apparently a lot right now,
a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
This might include Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's in Mexico. We're going to watch Cold Front today,
which was written by Stephen Beck and Tim Finch, directed
by for the first time we met him, Robbie Duncan McNeil,
who did wound up doing I believe five versus six
episodes with us and it introduces Daniels and the temporal
(02:06):
Cold War. So oh, also, I want to thank four
fifty five films. I also want to thank Dave tab
Without you, we couldn't be here. No, we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thank you, Dave.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thank you Dave. Yeah, so listen, I watched this this morning.
Oh yeah, and I think it's a very good episode.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's a big episode. And clearly this is the one
that this is episode eleven, I think, is it? Yeah,
but this was this was the one that they mid season,
as it were almost mid season that they decided they
were they were going to go all out on and
uh spent a lot of money, A lot of CGI here.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
A lot of CGI. I want to start by just
sort of like a I don't know a general overview
of how I thought of this. It was very interesting
because it's very classic sci fi drama, but you also
have the innocence of Flocks having the experiences. We learned
a lot about Flocks in this episode in the sense
(03:10):
that he is someone who is open for any experience,
a seeker, a seeker exactly. And then you have Travis
sitting in the captain's chair, and there's there's a lot
of like, you know, nuances about the balance between you know,
a Star Trek show and then the reality of what
(03:32):
we were in reality, which was new to this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes, and suddenly thrown in right at the deep end
of space travel. We had no idea what we were
getting into here, right, And some lovely guest performances. John
Fleck makes a reappearance as Cilic. He's always good value.
And Matt Winston, who plays Daniels, is just to refer
(04:02):
not to give a little a little easter egg here
because we've recently watched Galaxy Quest and and he's in that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I don't know, Yes, he is the son or grandson
of Stan Winston.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Is that right? I did not know that? Terribly good
as Loyalty film, right, I should. I should because it's
been brought to my attention when I complained about Discovery
saying that that chat at the end of Discovery was
(04:37):
Daniels when they do the homage to the legacy shows
and they they the camera wanders over some baseballs for
Deep Space nine and I'm trying to think what they
did for Next Gen Anyway, turns out that the guy
on Discovery with the dark glasses that's always been a
bit of an enigma, he's Daniels. And I was like,
(04:59):
who us? And I didn't mean apparently, you know, you know,
God knows you have to be so careful what you say.
I only said that because, you know, I was jealous
of dear Matt because he got really good, juicy episodes
when he came on the social media of vitriol that
you must have come yeh know, I did. I got
apparently there's some social media like you know, oh do you?
(05:23):
And I just want to clear that up that this
was not a you know, an affront Discovery, and I actually,
when you pass it around your head for longer than
two minutes, a nice way to pay on Marche to
enterprise if you weren't going to pick the captain as
your focus to to to pay your respects. This was
(05:45):
a very good character to do it with. And if
you will enigmatic and came out of left field, you know,
should have been me. But there it is, and if
you have been eventually, so I just want to clear
that up. I thought, yes, it was a good conceit
(06:06):
and uh and whatever I said was said in jest
with my tongue slightly in my cheek.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And and gentlemen, Dominic's tongue in cheek is similar to mine.
And it's constant.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's constant, and it is it's and it's a very
subtle British tongue in cheek. It is which a lot
of you yas might not get again anyway. Yes, some
lovely guest stars, not least from him. And and I
really liked what's his name, Michael o'hagen, who played the
(06:44):
the Captain of the Captain Fraddock, who's delivering these He's brilliant.
He's like, whatever, come over, I don't care. Yeah, exactly know.
He literally is the he's the tour bus operator. He's
a salty dog tour bus. What tall bus operator? That really?
You know? If these mugs want to come and see this,
(07:05):
you know, electron Field plume thing and say it's the
start of their creation. Whatever you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Have rum like rum.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Sheep Sheepnluvian rum. I'm serving.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I have to say though, that in the beginning of
the episode, read looks like he's woken up on the
wrong side of the bed.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now, okay, what's my first scene? Well, the first scene
you have is you're oh, that's the first you know,
that's the I was watching this the other day with Sarah.
It's the first, I think the first and maybe only
time I left my console and went to my right
to go off stage. We never used that entrance, I
(07:53):
mean maybe one other time in four years. Good yeah,
and uh and I went off. I went off stage
as it were, well stage left if you're looking at it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But the first scene you're kind of like, no, what, okay, fine,
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, well, I've probably read the scripts and when I'm
not in this one, that bloody little did I know that? Yeah,
Matt the Daniels Winston was going to use my anyway. Well,
I didn't mean to play it that way. I'm trying
to think, but it works.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean it was there's no reason why, you know,
everybody's supposed to be, you know, white teeth and grinning
every moment where you know things are happening. It's it's
a job, it's a there's a it's a slog it
is yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So I mean, let's think of this through so so
we we welcome these pilgrims aboard. Uh And Joseph Hindy
plays the main pilgrim prom mantous and he's rather lovely
in it. And they really are burning men, aren't they.
They're all burning man, you know. And then hidden amongst
(09:09):
their number is is silic given away by the fact
that he's the one with the frightening spiky face exactly.
I love that last scene where like they sit on
him in the line up, madam, which one would you pick? That?
(09:32):
And they're all going to see what is it now?
It's the the plume of.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The plume of Agasauria.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Uh, Agasauria, Agasauria. Well done, mate, which is their creation story.
And and there's a lot of c g I here,
I mean, uh, you know, and it looks good. I
mean they must have spent because siege, you know. I
back in those days was very expensive and uh, you
(10:04):
know there was no small, no small amount of money
they spent on this. Yes, what else did I write
down here? So? Yeah, and then we meet future Guy
properly for the second time. Yeah, which I'm understanding. I
(10:25):
understand from doing a little bit of reading. And you
one never knows whether they're telling the truth here. That
the Brannon and Rick and the creatives hands on fire
apparently you know, they had it in mind that that
ultimately future Guy was going to be Scott, that they
(10:46):
were going to somehow turn that story around, that Scott
was going back to Let me get me what did
I write here? That the future Guy is Archer trying
to connect with history and repair a corrupt future by
influencing his past self and Silik trying to kill Archer
(11:13):
in an earlier episode, but maybe this was to prevent
present Archer from doing something bad.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, yeah, let's get into this dynamic of the episode,
which is still it comes in and when we've got
the whole sort of burning Man group coming into engineering,
he breaks the.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Wire, which is helpful, which is helpful. It looks it
looks like it's going to be an act of sabotage. Initially, and.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
The ship would have blown to pieces.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You should have gone. And we're walking, and we're walking.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Okay, So I've got a couple of stories in this episode.
Ah souh as you might have recognized there's a lot
of gobbly good being spoken in that first scene. Yeah,
and this was what are we in episode? Early on?
And so I'm walking with everybody and I'm describing the
(12:15):
warp core. Now. Connor had no idea how this damn
thing worked. This is my first time I get any
information about how things go from here to here to
hear to hear, and shockingly, I was not very good
at getting those lines right. I called I had them
(12:39):
bring in the Akudas to describe this to me. I
had to say, listen, I need to know this. I
need to know exactly how it goes from the core
to this to that to the other thing.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well the lot or did you get them out of bed?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No? They were on the lot, Yeah they were there.
I mean I might have even requested it previous to this,
you know, knowing the scene that was coming on, because
I was like, you guys, hang on a second, you
know this, but I don't. So somebody explained this to me.
So they come down and then this is one of
my probably season one blooper scenes where oh man, I
(13:17):
couldn't get this.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You just couldn't get it. And you're in front of
all those extras, all those yeah going and they're going off,
how do these people get these jobs? You know?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It was one of those days where it was like
the DiCaprio moment where in uh, the Hollywood, Hollywood, Yeah,
where I went back to my tent and was like, you.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Couldn't just have seven whiskey sours, you had to have eight.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. So that was that was the first time that
ever really happened to me. And then also the other
story is that and I've brought this up before. I
thought was much later in our show, but it happened
in this episode where he speaking with Daniels and he says, hey, listen,
we have a bet going on here about how far
the ship will go.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's quite cute.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, well, as as written in the original script was
we have a bet going on how far the ship
will go? And I've lost for thirty straight days. And
I read that and I didn't. I didn't really call
very often to say something, but I called the office,
and I'm sure. I spoke to Brannon and I was like, listen,
(14:35):
you want to make him a dummy. It's what you're doing,
all right, Right, If you don't, you should change this.
And so that part of it was eliminated, all right,
which I appreciated very very much.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I was excuter that you just there's a bet going on,
and you know, hey, I know a good thing when
I see it coming, So tell me, yeah, you got
any clues? Yeah, having seen the nice of the Killer
Androids is the movie, it was a nice, a nice
little moment. I like that, that's two hours of my
(15:10):
life I'll never get back, or something exactly. Pretty cute.
That scene between Anthony and Linda's rather nice when she,
you know, sort of persuades him to take the chair.
You're you're you're in charge. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was very subtle. It was nice.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It was nice, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, And then he locks up the little pad and
then you walk in and he's like, oh oh.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
No, yes, that was actually very that was very cute.
Actually yeah, because apparently you're still in a bad mood. Yes,
And I loved that. I had a little button at
the end where I look over and roll my eyes
before I sit down and continue my very important work
exactly exactly. So, yes, we figure out that that someone
(15:55):
sabotaged the warp core as it were, but to our advantage,
so that we wouldn't blow up because we were near meltdown.
And uh, so we begin we need to tell our story,
we we need we need to carry on.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And in terms of you know, looking in the past
into the future, this scenario could not occur.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right, Yeah. And Daniels of course, as we've seen him
at the beginnings waiting on Scott in the Captain's dining
room and then all of a sudden he appears and
peaks the Captain's interest quite quickly with scene. Yeah, and
(16:47):
all of a sudden this you know, it's like the
Minority report comes up. Very cool, it was very very cool,
and you know it's all timeline temporal history stuff and
you know, you were here and I'm from over here,
and uh, he's just he's a very good actor, Matt Winston,
(17:08):
and he has that everyman face that you can you know, slip,
you know, just plug in. But he's got the chops,
you know, never overplays it. H Yeah, just is uh
it's very watchable in some ways. He reminds me of
Steve Culp in that respect. Yeah, you know, that's sort
(17:31):
of just good solid you know. Uh, you know when
someone's just in command of their tool, as it were,
their their craft, and they they and they know their
place in the scene of it, and they don't Yeah,
you feel safe with them. They don't over gild the lily.
(17:51):
They don't try and steal a scene. They just deliver
the information. And it's it's a it's you know that
that's half the task being a good actor, is Gilgod
used to say, You know, you act accordingly to the
style of the thing that you're in. And if you
once you get that tone right, the rest is as
(18:12):
long as you've got the experience. It's it's plain sailing
and don't and I love the way in many ways
he throws quite a lot of it away, you know.
And I know this is a lot for you to
keep up with, Captain, but here it is.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I like your eggs soft.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yes, so that's a lovely that's a Have I ever
Have I ever jipped you? Yes? Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What else I'm going to have to say, just as
a general comment, you know, we had John fleck on
in our previous iteration, and every time I now having
talked to him and learned of his experience, every time
I see him, I was like, he hates.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This, I know. Can you imagine that opening teaser scene
when he's lying on the bed with Wise coming out
of his head and it's all pretty creepy that first
teaser scene, and James Horan, who plays Future Guy, apparently
he knew nothing of what he was saying. It was
a voice over. They wouldn't tell him anything, and you know,
(19:25):
he just literally made it up on the spot. But
it's rather well done.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And also I love the childlike wonder that Flox carries. Yes, yeah,
it really sort of solidifies somewhat his role on the show.
I wish we'd had more of that. You know, he's
(19:55):
he's so intrigued by the idea of going to visit
these things, and he comes back and says, you know,
you know, I did a I went to a Buddhist
temple and this that and the other thing, and he's
got this just just this sort of childlike wondering glow
about the experience.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yes, and uh, and you know, the engagement with other
cultures is uh, beliefs and belief systems.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, almost like Fox figured out that, you know what,
we might blow up. It might not work, but I'm
going to get everything out of this that I possibly can.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. I mean, he totally
lives in the present, doesn't he. And there's no concern
about you know, I recently, you know, I've recently read
that book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving an f
U c K. And you know, the main the main
tenets at the end of that book is, you know,
(20:59):
and I give two f's about far too much. Is
we're all going to die. And you know, you don't
get that many days on this wonderful bable called planet Earth.
And I don't know the rest of the country maybe,
but today in southern California is absolutely pristine and it's
(21:21):
the most glorious day out there, and you know, really
embrace it. I mean it's who knows what tomorrow might
not bring? Deeply, yeah, think about it. And I really
take a minute to smell the roses. And that's what
(21:44):
Flocks represents, particularly in this episode, absolutely is the smelling
of the roses.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And yeah, one of the things I really, really liked
about this episode. In fact, you know, I didn't remember
it very well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, I know I didn't because I wasn't it much.
And I dare say I was at the beach quite
a bit that week. I wouldn't be surprised, mind you.
In those early days of the show, I was moving
into that. I think by now I was just about
to maybe move into the house, and I was very
grateful of the days off. I had to sort of,
(22:24):
you know, get the house straight, and you know, ghost
furniture shopping, Ikea and the like, and you know, nothing
ever took one trip. It always took three. I don't
know how that happens, but it does.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't have like three inch Phillips head screws.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, God knows. Whenever I got you know, the out
out of its box to put up you know, an
Ikea table, Yeah, and it was like you just stare
(23:05):
at this, like, oh my god, You've got three alum
keys and like a bag for the bolts, and then
one bolt left, one bolt left where you're like, oh, no,
I made a necklace out of all of them.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, But I will say that that I think that
I mean, this is this is classic sci fi this
is this is a classic episode. You know, there's I
think we spent a lot of time early on, which
is appropriate for a new show developing characters. You know,
(23:41):
people people get episodes, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
That we know who they are.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
This was just straight good storytelling.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It was, yeah, with some great visuals. I mean, let's
say at the beginning they spared no expense. There was
a lot. I mean there was a lot of Suliban
hand going in going walls, the whole timeline, Temple, cold War,
that Daniel shows him, the early the teaser scene with
(24:10):
his future man, that all cost Yeah, no, back in
those days, cost of fortune.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Not only that, I will say that.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And Robbie, I mean he had to undertake all that.
This was a big episode.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And very well done. I will also say that, you
know that that kind of technology that we now take
for granted was so very new.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, god, cutting edge at that time. Yeah, no kidding.
What did you think about I mean, I'm trying to
sort of think of of Robbie's direction. I mean he
told the story earnestly with a good pace.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I thought it was I thought it was seamless.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, good TV direction. Yeah, he got all the shots.
Some interesting shots too, you know, I think that stuff.
Some good close ups in the scene with Daniels and
Archer where they're weighing each other up, I noticed that
that was well done. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
One thing I will say about about Robbie's direction is
that to me, it was seamless, and that is not
an easy task.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, And.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Also in terms of working with directors, this didn't happen
often to us, but it happened occasionally where we would
have an episode with someone and I think as a
cast would kind of be like, what's going on? You know,
he was He's very good. He's very good at telling
(25:48):
the story as the helmsman, also incorporating our feelings, wants
and desires. I'll circle this back to me saying Robbie,
I don't think this is appropriate for me to not
know how far.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This ship goes every day, right, Like, totally agree we.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Should make the call.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, kidding, Yeah, that's I had not noticed. I
didn't if I did read it in the script. Initially,
I didn't notice it. But you know, you're absolutely right.
Something just crossed my mind. Uh what was it about Robbie?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I do you remember he was the first director that
brought music onto the set. Yeah, I had never experienced
that in my uh and then David Straiton was the
next one that brought and created a vibe. And Robbie
had these. I bought them all. They were Starbucks CDs
(26:51):
of you know, sort of various genre and rock and whatever,
but similar genre stuff. And I've still got them in
the cover there, and I have to say, they're great CDs.
And there was about half a dozen of them, and
I went out and got the lot and they were
it was a really nice vibe that this this, this
this soundtrack he decided to play well in between setup.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's funny you say that, because I really recognized, I
think maybe for the first time, uh, the sound of
our show. It was so very well done. I was
thinking about this watching and I was like, man, this,
you know, you've got the because there's so much tension involved,
you've got the you know, the the low doses of
(27:35):
tension happening. And I thought it was extraordinary. And also
I want to say about Robbie, I think it was
the first time well, no, we'd had ro Sane before,
but we had Roxanne and we'd had Robbie and uh me,
you and Anthony were in the program to direct, and
(27:56):
I continually so excited about the idea that we could
possibly do this and watch.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
These you know, Caslum doing it themselves, you're actually doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And you know, as we all know, that that fell
by the wayside as a result of not being allowed
to have new directors on our show. But I mean,
I remember being so excited about the possibility of what
we could do those who were interested in directing.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I know. It's the one regret I have taken
away from those years is that we didn't get that
chance to take it all the way because we put
the homework in, that's for sure. And look, in many ways,
it's certainly furthered my fluency of filmmaking, and I have
(28:47):
no regrets about that. Whenever I go onto a film
set now, I know exactly where we are in the
day and yeah, and I know what I know what's
expected of me in this shot now, rather than giving
it all all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I also think that it gave us an awareness of
the totality and the eyes of what the whole thing
was because you know, as our audience hopefully knows, you know,
it's so split in terms of production needs versus story needs.
(29:25):
You know that we'll do page three through nine, forty
seven through fifty six through ninety.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, we're in this space now and six different scenes
eight pages apart in the spirit all happened here, but
we're doing more today.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, you have to really know, well, how's that feed?
What does this feed into this? And yeah, otherwise it
sticks out like a sore thumb that you got the
tone wrong. You know, you got the you know you
didn't come in with the run. You know that old
adage about act You know, when you come on set
on stage, where have you come from? What are you
(30:05):
doing here? And where are you going after?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's right, because that's how we all live, right, Yeah,
and you know theatrically that has an organic evolution, but
in filmmaking it doesn't. That evolution gets created by the
editor and the director posts our work.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But you have to you have to be aware of
it on set.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You have That's exactly. Yeah, what you're saying that that's
your job is to recognize what the whole arc of
this thing is and then remember where you're at. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I love it when I watch TV stuff now or
movies and I know that they shot out a sequence,
but it's seamless, the the the the cutting together. And
I really respect that when an actor knows exactly the
time they took that sip of drink, put the glass down,
and then and now it's it's cut into them and
(31:09):
then and it's just seamless, And I go, that's professional acting, man,
that's craftsmanship. That's craftsmanship. Yeah. It makes it look, you know,
like it's just real, like it just happened, and you
were a fire on the wall watching that scene, and
you know that it wasn't the fight between Cilic and Archer.
(31:30):
I thought it was rather good. And the idea that
Silic is there to help him and that Daniels can't
be trusted. I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's the wonder of a good science fiction hour of television.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I really think that this was again, you know, Stephen
Beck and Tim Finch. I don't remember them.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't remember them, and I don't think they stayed
beyond the first season.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
They brought a very very good episode of very dramatic television.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I did, uh to. Paul remains skeptical about it
all in her usual fashion, And uh, I mean, I
quite like Joe Lene's place in all of this that
you know she is the actually's not Debbie down is
(32:22):
not quite the right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You have the dichotomy between uh to Paul and Flox
and Flops is childlike in his desire to just experience everything,
and to Paul is like you know what did she say?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Their religion is basically, uh, clarity and truth and knowledge.
There was this, Yes, she has a line where she says,
you know, well we believe in.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's not so much facts, but it's it is something
like that, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, yeah, they're you know, the Vulcans truly are kind
of just pragmatists.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, they really are. There's no emotion attached to anything. No,
it is what it is. Yeah, I remember, do you
know the one part of the episode I remember is
when I put the lock on on Daniels's door. I
remember why I remember that so vividly? Do you know?
There were some things in life you just go. You
don't know why you choose to viscerally remember that moment,
(33:30):
but I remember doing that lock. I don't know why
I've never forgotten doing it. I remember being quite impressed
by the lock itself and the way it fitted on
the door, and it was an easy prop to work with.
And I as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah,
I remember that. That was cool. That was cool.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I speaking of you know, the technological things about
the show. Listen, so Archer has this thing on his hand.
M yes, and he goes through the wall. Yeah. And
the willingness and belief that that's just going to be okay, yes,
(34:13):
kind of extraordinary yeah yeah, and proper captain stuff. Yeah.
I love the scene where they get in the fight
and then John Fleck as Silic.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Just dives down to their pod.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Brilliant, just beaut almost right, wasn't he any And God
knows when you you go back to and say again,
remember how much he hated being in that suit and.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Uh it was claustrophobic, which yeah, man, I mean you
had you had you had lie you had this whole
thing up to your eyelids. Yeah, both ends and you're
completely covered. And if you suffer from that, man, it
must have been he I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It's a lot day. Did you never did it? Did you?
You never did full? You never went full, You never
went you never went full. Sylaban, I went for it's
it's it's it's it's a long day, man, it is.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And when they take that back piece off and a
waterfall of sweat trickles down your back at now three
in the morning, and it stinks a bit. And uh, yeah,
I've said many a time I'd stare in the mirror
as they were starting this solvent and I just looked
like this ravage drag queen. Ah. That was there were
(35:43):
those were a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That was a long week, you know, and he knew
every time he was coming into work that he was
going to have to go to a place that he's
not comfortable in.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You do you have to? It is it's you go
to a zen place where you literally breathe and you're
kind of on your own the whole day. As much
as you can, you know, interact with other people, but
you're still there's this wall up that you're behind. And yeah,
(36:15):
and it's like it's almost as if you're in the
tropics talking to someone who's in you know, sixty eight
degree temperature, but you're in the tropics.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing to play a part.
That's that's that's sort of counterintuitive to who you are
as a person. That's what we do as actors. It's
a whole other thing to have somewhat of a condition.
I guess you'd say where it doesn't matter what the
(36:45):
part is that you're playing, you are suffering from class
and I mean suffering.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, yeah, the tempor accord. I thought that was quite
an interesting concept, you know, some of akin to like
a nuclear treaty. I guess that the way we're keeping
the peace is, you know, everyone plays nice and doesn't
(37:13):
doesn't go back and forth, you know, sodding it up
for other for for other ages to come. And I
thought that was quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well, and also on that note, we find out later,
but I was a little confused about you know, Silic
has been sent there for this reason to make sure
that we don't blow up, and and how that manifests
(37:44):
later we find you know, we do find out, but
you know, at the moment, this is what I liked
so much about the episode is that I don't need
I don't need my hour of television to tell me everything.
I don't need to have it wrapped up and tied
in the bow. I do not. I am much like
law in Order, Yeah exactly, I'm much more interested in
(38:09):
in in the questions that come up versus a solution.
And I like that about this episode.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
It leaves a lot of loose ends, and I guess
intentionally so because they knew that this was going to
be somewhat of a you know, at least one avenue
of our show was going to go down this road,
and this was going to be a returnee.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, but they didn't do it as much as we
thought they were going to.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
No, they didn't. I don't know why. I mean I either,
they just didn't. You know, Brannon has tweeted in the
past that they knew exactly where this was going to go,
and you kind of go, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I mean how that works for audience. You know,
you should know that anytime runners, executive producers, creators of
a show, they come up with a thing called a Bible, right,
and this Bible is the arc of the entire series.
And I think that in this instance, the this might
(39:18):
have been intentional. This might have been thought of as
more of the Bible than it was actually played.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Right in our series, I think you're right, yeah, yeah.
And you know, as we know, by the end of
that first season and we got to shuttle pod one
which was meant to be the money saver because they
spent so much money and if they were going back
to this temporal Cold War, they were like, that's a
lot of Moneys four and a half million dollars. And
(39:45):
apparently the fans didn't understand the word of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It right because it was I mean, it's the temporal
Cold War. It's not a new thing to our Is
it a new thing to our series?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't know if that was that was a part
of the I.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Think initial word is it was unique to our shirt?
Yeah right, believe Yeah, So don't shoot me if I'm wrong,
and I like daniels I. We got that cleared up.
Apparently there's subreddit pages of just trashing me if I did.
I an older man. It's not nice to be trashed
(40:26):
on subreddit. I can tell you hurt your feelings. It does, Yeah, yeah,
it does. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You know, Look, we're look dom. What we're trying to
do here is to uh show and share with our
fans our love for what we've done and.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Kidding we're going to get stuff wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We did do it, but we are not we are
not students of.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
What we're becoming students and yes, but we were there.
But we were there, We were there, and we're giving
you a unique perspective of what it was like to
be there and shoot this show at the time, and
in real world terms, you know, as actors who got
(41:16):
a really good gig and then thirty years twenty five
years later, you know now really understand just what a
lucky break this was. You know, if you weren't going
to go on to become just an utterly working actor,
you know, going from show to show, and so few
(41:39):
of those do. What a shows we have gotten on
and my appreciation of this just deepens literally months to month,
year to year. Now I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I you know again, I watched this episode this morning,
and it's nice to be.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Surprised at being impressed.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
With something I was.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I was.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I really liked this episode.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, me too. It was the proper sci fi and
it was you know, the the high jinks technically were
well done, because they can often look hokey and and
take you out of the you know, the reality, and
they didn't. They actually they actually really sucked you in.
I mean that one scene between Daniels and Archer was Wow,
(42:29):
that that was it was like I said, it was,
that was minority report standard. Man. I mean, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Then there's that scene like Trip goes like what's this
boom and its little scream?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
What else? Uh? How does it end? I'm just trying
to think. So with you locking lock I lock up
Daniels' door future reference.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, and you know it's it's it's it's again.
It's one of those I I'm really impressed by this
episode because it doesn't answer anything, but it does move
the story forward.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah. Yeah, because I mean we know that, you know,
he's already Arch has already met Sarren in the Broken
Bow episode. So we know that there's this this subplot
to our entire you know, journey into space that we
have no idea what we're what we're getting into. And
(43:29):
now this is the episode that that it's far I'm aware,
not everyone other than you. I don't think Malcolm sort
of has an idea but doesn't really know, you know,
he's not he's not privy to the The whole stuff
that Arch has been shown is he brings in to
Paul and Tripp to have that scene in. Yeah, so
(43:52):
this is still some of it's under wraps, and I
have to say that. I mean, you know, I did
watch the episode go howcome should be? You know, you
really should have been.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Malcolm was that character in uh Apocalypse now thinking this
episode dominics the dominic's for the latrine, the one who
was like, yeah, man, there's surfing left off of there
on the on the Maykong River.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
If you don't mind the smell of napalm, that's right,
it's a it's a it's a good barrel.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It's yeah, there's a good waves coming next week, mate,
So you won't see me Thursday through Sunday next weeks.
Off you're in and it looks like it's gonna be
like four to five, the odd six seven. It's yeah,
it's about.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
For the fans here. Early on, one of our camera operators,
Gary was really esful, I think professional surfer before he
became a camera.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well, I don't know about pro, but he hung out
with the dogtown Boys. Dogtown Boys, yeahah, the Teeth legended
that movie about and then then there was a documentary.
I wanted to tell them not alive anymore, and a
couple of mons went to jail, but he was part
of that crew. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah. So I talked to Gary about surfing early on,
and he's like, I've got a shaper.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
He's going to make you a board.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And so I did all this research and I wanted
to have World War two nose cone art. Yeah, And
I gave him the design and his shaper made the
board and it took a while, and there was a
long board and it had this sort of Betty Page
kind of yeah flowy. Do you still have it? I
(45:51):
do this black flowy thing all down the bottom of
the board. And I lived too far away. I really
wasn't too keen on surfing, but I try to remember.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I remember your first wife, Ariana kind of give it
an ultimating. You can't golf and surf. I'll be a widow,
right and you you've got to choose one. So you
you chose golf because it was around the corner exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And then I also remember being on this surfboard when
I was still doing it and thinking to myself.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Hmmm, it looks like a seal, looks like black flowy
on the bottom, And I thought right and again, and
then I said, I want to buy it.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
You still have it? I still have it? It's I've
taken it out once or twice. It's a beautiful board.
It's a beautiful board. I'll take a picture of it
and we'll put it up so the fans can see it. Definitely,
it's a beauty's very pretty bored. It's a little big
for me, but yeah, I took it out to Fiji
once and took Themoto's left is an amazing left and
(46:55):
I've got a good few lefts on that board.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah it's six or something or seven.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Nine. It's a big.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
It's a nine. Oh, it's a big. Yeah, it's a nine. Yeah.
You an elephant could get up on that thing, not me.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you enjoyed our watch party
of Cold Front. I think it's one of our early
on best episodes about moving our show forward, and everybody
was fantastic in it.
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we need your support as Patreon members. We we I
know we keep banging on, but if you're about that,
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(47:51):
are making no money doing this. We're making no money
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(48:11):
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Speaker 2 (48:32):
It's a wonderful experience to do this with you, and
it is so yeah, and I think it's got great value.
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Yeah, No, honestly, it's it's given me a shot in
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(49:02):
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I hope you had a good time. We've got a
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this episode. Some of you might see it. Yeah yeah,
oh yeah, yeah yeah there was. He's not too bright
that one, that's right. I love him all right, mate,
(49:26):
Well listen, have a great weekend now now new guys,
See y'all later
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
We've come.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, trekkies and trekkers. Welcome
to another watch party episode of the dcon Chamber. As always,
I am assisted with my co host and best friend
in Los Angeles, Dominic Keating. I'm Connor treneer.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
America, all of it, all of it. I'll give you
the consonant.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, listen, America's America is apparently a lot right now,
a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
This might include Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It's in Mexico. We're going to watch Cold Front today,
which was written by Stephen Beck and Tim Finch, directed
by for the first time we met him, Robbie Duncan McNeil,
who did wound up doing I believe five versus six
episodes with us and it introduces Daniels and the temporal
(02:06):
Cold War. So oh, also, I want to thank four
fifty five films. I also want to thank Dave tab
Without you, we couldn't be here. No, we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thank you, Dave.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thank you Dave. Yeah, so listen, I watched this this morning.
Oh yeah, and I think it's a very good episode.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's a big episode. And clearly this is the one
that this is episode eleven, I think, is it? Yeah,
but this was this was the one that they mid season,
as it were almost mid season that they decided they
were they were going to go all out on and
uh spent a lot of money, A lot of CGI here.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
A lot of CGI. I want to start by just
sort of like a I don't know a general overview
of how I thought of this. It was very interesting
because it's very classic sci fi drama, but you also
have the innocence of Flocks having the experiences. We learned
a lot about Flocks in this episode in the sense
(03:10):
that he is someone who is open for any experience,
a seeker, a seeker exactly. And then you have Travis
sitting in the captain's chair, and there's there's a lot
of like, you know, nuances about the balance between you know,
a Star Trek show and then the reality of what
(03:32):
we were in reality, which was new to this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes, and suddenly thrown in right at the deep end
of space travel. We had no idea what we were
getting into here, right, And some lovely guest performances. John
Fleck makes a reappearance as Cilic. He's always good value.
And Matt Winston, who plays Daniels, is just to refer
(04:02):
not to give a little a little easter egg here
because we've recently watched Galaxy Quest and and he's in that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I don't know, Yes, he is the son or grandson
of Stan Winston.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Is that right? I did not know that? Terribly good
as Loyalty film, right, I should. I should because it's
been brought to my attention when I complained about Discovery
saying that that chat at the end of Discovery was
(04:37):
Daniels when they do the homage to the legacy shows
and they they the camera wanders over some baseballs for
Deep Space nine and I'm trying to think what they
did for Next Gen Anyway, turns out that the guy
on Discovery with the dark glasses that's always been a
bit of an enigma, he's Daniels. And I was like,
(04:59):
who us? And I didn't mean apparently, you know, you know,
God knows you have to be so careful what you say.
I only said that because, you know, I was jealous
of dear Matt because he got really good, juicy episodes
when he came on the social media of vitriol that
you must have come yeh know, I did. I got
apparently there's some social media like you know, oh do you?
(05:23):
And I just want to clear that up that this
was not a you know, an affront Discovery, and I actually,
when you pass it around your head for longer than
two minutes, a nice way to pay on Marche to
enterprise if you weren't going to pick the captain as
your focus to to to pay your respects. This was
(05:45):
a very good character to do it with. And if
you will enigmatic and came out of left field, you know,
should have been me. But there it is, and if
you have been eventually, so I just want to clear
that up. I thought, yes, it was a good conceit
(06:06):
and uh and whatever I said was said in jest
with my tongue slightly in my cheek.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And and gentlemen, Dominic's tongue in cheek is similar to mine.
And it's constant.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's constant, and it is it's and it's a very
subtle British tongue in cheek. It is which a lot
of you yas might not get again anyway. Yes, some
lovely guest stars, not least from him. And and I
really liked what's his name, Michael o'hagen, who played the
(06:44):
the Captain of the Captain Fraddock, who's delivering these He's brilliant.
He's like, whatever, come over, I don't care. Yeah, exactly know.
He literally is the he's the tour bus operator. He's
a salty dog tour bus. What tall bus operator? That really?
You know? If these mugs want to come and see this,
(07:05):
you know, electron Field plume thing and say it's the
start of their creation. Whatever you guys.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Have rum like rum.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Sheep Sheepnluvian rum. I'm serving.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I have to say though, that in the beginning of
the episode, read looks like he's woken up on the
wrong side of the bed.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Now, okay, what's my first scene? Well, the first scene
you have is you're oh, that's the first you know,
that's the I was watching this the other day with Sarah.
It's the first, I think the first and maybe only
time I left my console and went to my right
to go off stage. We never used that entrance, I
(07:53):
mean maybe one other time in four years. Good yeah,
and uh and I went off. I went off stage
as it were, well stage left if you're looking at it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
But the first scene you're kind of like, no, what, okay, fine,
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, well, I've probably read the scripts and when I'm
not in this one, that bloody little did I know that? Yeah,
Matt the Daniels Winston was going to use my anyway. Well,
I didn't mean to play it that way. I'm trying
to think, but it works.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I mean it was there's no reason why, you know,
everybody's supposed to be, you know, white teeth and grinning
every moment where you know things are happening. It's it's
a job, it's a there's a it's a slog it
is yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So I mean, let's think of this through so so
we we welcome these pilgrims aboard. Uh And Joseph Hindy
plays the main pilgrim prom mantous and he's rather lovely
in it. And they really are burning men, aren't they.
They're all burning man, you know. And then hidden amongst
(09:09):
their number is is silic given away by the fact
that he's the one with the frightening spiky face exactly.
I love that last scene where like they sit on
him in the line up, madam, which one would you pick? That?
(09:32):
And they're all going to see what is it now?
It's the the plume of.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The plume of Agasauria.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Uh, Agasauria, Agasauria. Well done, mate, which is their creation story.
And and there's a lot of c g I here,
I mean, uh, you know, and it looks good. I
mean they must have spent because siege, you know. I
back in those days was very expensive and uh, you
(10:04):
know there was no small, no small amount of money
they spent on this. Yes, what else did I write
down here? So? Yeah, and then we meet future Guy
properly for the second time. Yeah, which I'm understanding. I
(10:25):
understand from doing a little bit of reading. And you
one never knows whether they're telling the truth here. That
the Brannon and Rick and the creatives hands on fire
apparently you know, they had it in mind that that
ultimately future Guy was going to be Scott, that they
(10:46):
were going to somehow turn that story around, that Scott
was going back to Let me get me what did
I write here? That the future Guy is Archer trying
to connect with history and repair a corrupt future by
influencing his past self and Silik trying to kill Archer
(11:13):
in an earlier episode, but maybe this was to prevent
present Archer from doing something bad.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, yeah, let's get into this dynamic of the episode,
which is still it comes in and when we've got
the whole sort of burning Man group coming into engineering,
he breaks the.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Wire, which is helpful, which is helpful. It looks it
looks like it's going to be an act of sabotage. Initially, and.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
The ship would have blown to pieces.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You should have gone. And we're walking, and we're walking.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Okay, So I've got a couple of stories in this episode.
Ah souh as you might have recognized there's a lot
of gobbly good being spoken in that first scene. Yeah,
and this was what are we in episode? Early on?
And so I'm walking with everybody and I'm describing the
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warp core. Now. Connor had no idea how this damn
thing worked. This is my first time I get any
information about how things go from here to here to
hear to hear, and shockingly, I was not very good
at getting those lines right. I called I had them
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bring in the Akudas to describe this to me. I
had to say, listen, I need to know this. I
need to know exactly how it goes from the core
to this to that to the other thing.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well the lot or did you get them out of bed?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
No? They were on the lot, Yeah they were there.
I mean I might have even requested it previous to this,
you know, knowing the scene that was coming on, because
I was like, you guys, hang on a second, you
know this, but I don't. So somebody explained this to me.
So they come down and then this is one of
my probably season one blooper scenes where oh man, I
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couldn't get this.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You just couldn't get it. And you're in front of
all those extras, all those yeah going and they're going off,
how do these people get these jobs? You know?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
It was one of those days where it was like
the DiCaprio moment where in uh, the Hollywood, Hollywood, Yeah,
where I went back to my tent and was like, you.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Couldn't just have seven whiskey sours, you had to have eight.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. So that was that was the first time that
ever really happened to me. And then also the other
story is that and I've brought this up before. I
thought was much later in our show, but it happened
in this episode where he speaking with Daniels and he says, hey, listen,
we have a bet going on here about how far
the ship will go.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's quite cute.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, well, as as written in the original script was
we have a bet going on how far the ship
will go? And I've lost for thirty straight days. And
I read that and I didn't. I didn't really call
very often to say something, but I called the office,
and I'm sure. I spoke to Brannon and I was like, listen,
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you want to make him a dummy. It's what you're doing,
all right, Right, If you don't, you should change this.
And so that part of it was eliminated, all right,
which I appreciated very very much.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I was excuter that you just there's a bet going on,
and you know, hey, I know a good thing when
I see it coming, So tell me, yeah, you got
any clues? Yeah, having seen the nice of the Killer
Androids is the movie, it was a nice, a nice
little moment. I like that, that's two hours of my
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life I'll never get back, or something exactly. Pretty cute.
That scene between Anthony and Linda's rather nice when she,
you know, sort of persuades him to take the chair.
You're you're you're in charge. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was very subtle. It was nice.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It was nice, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, And then he locks up the little pad and
then you walk in and he's like, oh oh.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
No, yes, that was actually very that was very cute.
Actually yeah, because apparently you're still in a bad mood. Yes,
And I loved that. I had a little button at
the end where I look over and roll my eyes
before I sit down and continue my very important work
exactly exactly. So, yes, we figure out that that someone
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sabotaged the warp core as it were, but to our advantage,
so that we wouldn't blow up because we were near meltdown.
And uh, so we begin we need to tell our story,
we we need we need to carry on.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And in terms of you know, looking in the past
into the future, this scenario could not occur.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Right, Yeah. And Daniels of course, as we've seen him
at the beginnings waiting on Scott in the Captain's dining
room and then all of a sudden he appears and
peaks the Captain's interest quite quickly with scene. Yeah, and
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all of a sudden this you know, it's like the
Minority report comes up. Very cool, it was very very cool,
and you know it's all timeline temporal history stuff and
you know, you were here and I'm from over here,
and uh, he's just he's a very good actor, Matt Winston,
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and he has that everyman face that you can you know, slip,
you know, just plug in. But he's got the chops,
you know, never overplays it. H Yeah, just is uh
it's very watchable in some ways. He reminds me of
Steve Culp in that respect. Yeah, you know, that's sort
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of just good solid you know. Uh, you know when
someone's just in command of their tool, as it were,
their their craft, and they they and they know their
place in the scene of it, and they don't Yeah,
you feel safe with them. They don't over gild the lily.
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They don't try and steal a scene. They just deliver
the information. And it's it's a it's you know that
that's half the task being a good actor, is Gilgod
used to say, You know, you act accordingly to the
style of the thing that you're in. And if you
once you get that tone right, the rest is as
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long as you've got the experience. It's it's plain sailing
and don't and I love the way in many ways
he throws quite a lot of it away, you know.
And I know this is a lot for you to
keep up with, Captain, but here it is.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
And I like your eggs soft.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yes, so that's a lovely that's a Have I ever
Have I ever jipped you? Yes? Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What else I'm going to have to say, just as
a general comment, you know, we had John fleck on
in our previous iteration, and every time I now having
talked to him and learned of his experience, every time
I see him, I was like, he hates.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
This, I know. Can you imagine that opening teaser scene
when he's lying on the bed with Wise coming out
of his head and it's all pretty creepy that first
teaser scene, and James Horan, who plays Future Guy, apparently
he knew nothing of what he was saying. It was
a voice over. They wouldn't tell him anything, and you know,
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he just literally made it up on the spot. But
it's rather well done.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And also I love the childlike wonder that Flox carries. Yes, yeah,
it really sort of solidifies somewhat his role on the show.
I wish we'd had more of that. You know, he's
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he's so intrigued by the idea of going to visit
these things, and he comes back and says, you know,
you know, I did a I went to a Buddhist
temple and this that and the other thing, and he's
got this just just this sort of childlike wondering glow
about the experience.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yes, and uh, and you know, the engagement with other
cultures is uh, beliefs and belief systems.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, almost like Fox figured out that, you know what,
we might blow up. It might not work, but I'm
going to get everything out of this that I possibly can.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. I mean, he totally
lives in the present, doesn't he. And there's no concern
about you know, I recently, you know, I've recently read
that book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving an f
U c K. And you know, the main the main
tenets at the end of that book is, you know,
(20:59):
and I give two f's about far too much. Is
we're all going to die. And you know, you don't
get that many days on this wonderful bable called planet Earth.
And I don't know the rest of the country maybe,
but today in southern California is absolutely pristine and it's
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the most glorious day out there, and you know, really
embrace it. I mean it's who knows what tomorrow might
not bring? Deeply, yeah, think about it. And I really
take a minute to smell the roses. And that's what
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Flocks represents, particularly in this episode, absolutely is the smelling
of the roses.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And yeah, one of the things I really, really liked
about this episode. In fact, you know, I didn't remember
it very well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, I know I didn't because I wasn't it much.
And I dare say I was at the beach quite
a bit that week. I wouldn't be surprised, mind you.
In those early days of the show, I was moving
into that. I think by now I was just about
to maybe move into the house, and I was very
grateful of the days off. I had to sort of,
(22:24):
you know, get the house straight, and you know, ghost
furniture shopping, Ikea and the like, and you know, nothing
ever took one trip. It always took three. I don't
know how that happens, but it does.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't have like three inch Phillips head screws.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, God knows. Whenever I got you know, the out
out of its box to put up you know, an
Ikea table, Yeah, and it was like you just stare
(23:05):
at this, like, oh my god, You've got three alum
keys and like a bag for the bolts, and then
one bolt left, one bolt left where you're like, oh, no,
I made a necklace out of all of them.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, But I will say that that I think that
I mean, this is this is classic sci fi this
is this is a classic episode. You know, there's I
think we spent a lot of time early on, which
is appropriate for a new show developing characters. You know,
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people people get episodes, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
That we know who they are.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
This was just straight good storytelling.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It was, yeah, with some great visuals. I mean, let's
say at the beginning they spared no expense. There was
a lot. I mean there was a lot of Suliban
hand going in going walls, the whole timeline, Temple, cold War,
that Daniel shows him, the early the teaser scene with
(24:10):
his future man, that all cost Yeah, no, back in
those days, cost of fortune.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Not only that, I will say that.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
And Robbie, I mean he had to undertake all that.
This was a big episode.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And very well done. I will also say that, you
know that that kind of technology that we now take
for granted was so very new.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, god, cutting edge at that time. Yeah, no kidding.
What did you think about I mean, I'm trying to
sort of think of of Robbie's direction. I mean he
told the story earnestly with a good pace.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I thought it was I thought it was seamless.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, good TV direction. Yeah, he got all the shots.
Some interesting shots too, you know, I think that stuff.
Some good close ups in the scene with Daniels and
Archer where they're weighing each other up, I noticed that
that was well done. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
One thing I will say about about Robbie's direction is
that to me, it was seamless, and that is not
an easy task.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, And.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Also in terms of working with directors, this didn't happen
often to us, but it happened occasionally where we would
have an episode with someone and I think as a
cast would kind of be like, what's going on? You know,
he was He's very good. He's very good at telling
(25:48):
the story as the helmsman, also incorporating our feelings, wants
and desires. I'll circle this back to me saying Robbie,
I don't think this is appropriate for me to not
know how far.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This ship goes every day, right, Like, totally agree we.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Should make the call.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, kidding, Yeah, that's I had not noticed. I
didn't if I did read it in the script. Initially,
I didn't notice it. But you know, you're absolutely right.
Something just crossed my mind. Uh what was it about Robbie?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I do you remember he was the first director that
brought music onto the set. Yeah, I had never experienced
that in my uh and then David Straiton was the
next one that brought and created a vibe. And Robbie
had these. I bought them all. They were Starbucks CDs
(26:51):
of you know, sort of various genre and rock and whatever,
but similar genre stuff. And I've still got them in
the cover there, and I have to say, they're great CDs.
And there was about half a dozen of them, and
I went out and got the lot and they were
it was a really nice vibe that this this, this
this soundtrack he decided to play well in between setup.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
It's funny you say that, because I really recognized, I
think maybe for the first time, uh, the sound of
our show. It was so very well done. I was
thinking about this watching and I was like, man, this,
you know, you've got the because there's so much tension involved,
you've got the you know, the the low doses of
(27:35):
tension happening. And I thought it was extraordinary. And also
I want to say about Robbie, I think it was
the first time well, no, we'd had ro Sane before,
but we had Roxanne and we'd had Robbie and uh me,
you and Anthony were in the program to direct, and
(27:56):
I continually so excited about the idea that we could
possibly do this and watch.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
These you know, Caslum doing it themselves, you're actually doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And you know, as we all know, that that fell
by the wayside as a result of not being allowed
to have new directors on our show. But I mean,
I remember being so excited about the possibility of what
we could do those who were interested in directing.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yeah, I know. It's the one regret I have taken
away from those years is that we didn't get that
chance to take it all the way because we put
the homework in, that's for sure. And look, in many ways,
it's certainly furthered my fluency of filmmaking, and I have
(28:47):
no regrets about that. Whenever I go onto a film
set now, I know exactly where we are in the
day and yeah, and I know what I know what's
expected of me in this shot now, rather than giving
it all all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I also think that it gave us an awareness of
the totality and the eyes of what the whole thing
was because you know, as our audience hopefully knows, you know,
it's so split in terms of production needs versus story needs.
(29:25):
You know that we'll do page three through nine, forty
seven through fifty six through ninety.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, we're in this space now and six different scenes
eight pages apart in the spirit all happened here, but
we're doing more today.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, you have to really know, well, how's that feed?
What does this feed into this? And yeah, otherwise it
sticks out like a sore thumb that you got the
tone wrong. You know, you got the you know you
didn't come in with the run. You know that old
adage about act You know, when you come on set
on stage, where have you come from? What are you
(30:05):
doing here? And where are you going after?
Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's right, because that's how we all live, right, Yeah,
and you know theatrically that has an organic evolution, but
in filmmaking it doesn't. That evolution gets created by the
editor and the director posts our work.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
But you have to you have to be aware of
it on set.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You have That's exactly. Yeah, what you're saying that that's
your job is to recognize what the whole arc of
this thing is and then remember where you're at. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
I love it when I watch TV stuff now or
movies and I know that they shot out a sequence,
but it's seamless, the the the the cutting together. And
I really respect that when an actor knows exactly the
time they took that sip of drink, put the glass down,
and then and now it's it's cut into them and
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then and it's just seamless, And I go, that's professional acting, man,
that's craftsmanship. That's craftsmanship. Yeah. It makes it look, you know,
like it's just real, like it just happened, and you
were a fire on the wall watching that scene, and
you know that it wasn't the fight between Cilic and Archer.
(31:30):
I thought it was rather good. And the idea that
Silic is there to help him and that Daniels can't
be trusted. I like that.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's the wonder of a good science fiction hour of television.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I really think that this was again, you know, Stephen
Beck and Tim Finch. I don't remember them.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
I don't remember them, and I don't think they stayed
beyond the first season.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
They brought a very very good episode of very dramatic television.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, I did, uh to. Paul remains skeptical about it
all in her usual fashion, And uh, I mean, I
quite like Joe Lene's place in all of this that
you know she is the actually's not Debbie down is
(32:22):
not quite the right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
You have the dichotomy between uh to Paul and Flox
and Flops is childlike in his desire to just experience everything,
and to Paul is like you know what did she say?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Their religion is basically, uh, clarity and truth and knowledge.
There was this, Yes, she has a line where she says,
you know, well we believe in.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's not so much facts, but it's it is something
like that, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Well, yeah, they're you know, the Vulcans truly are kind
of just pragmatists.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, they really are. There's no emotion attached to anything. No,
it is what it is. Yeah, I remember, do you
know the one part of the episode I remember is
when I put the lock on on Daniels's door. I
remember why I remember that so vividly? Do you know?
There were some things in life you just go. You
don't know why you choose to viscerally remember that moment,
(33:30):
but I remember doing that lock. I don't know why
I've never forgotten doing it. I remember being quite impressed
by the lock itself and the way it fitted on
the door, and it was an easy prop to work with.
And I as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, yeah,
I remember that. That was cool. That was cool.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, I speaking of you know, the technological things about
the show. Listen, so Archer has this thing on his hand.
M yes, and he goes through the wall. Yeah. And
the willingness and belief that that's just going to be okay, yes,
(34:13):
kind of extraordinary yeah yeah, and proper captain stuff. Yeah.
I love the scene where they get in the fight
and then John Fleck as Silic.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Just dives down to their pod.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Brilliant, just beaut almost right, wasn't he any And God
knows when you you go back to and say again,
remember how much he hated being in that suit and.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Uh it was claustrophobic, which yeah, man, I mean you
had you had you had lie you had this whole
thing up to your eyelids. Yeah, both ends and you're
completely covered. And if you suffer from that, man, it
must have been he I can't.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It's a lot day. Did you never did it? Did you?
You never did full? You never went full, You never
went you never went full. Sylaban, I went for it's
it's it's it's it's a long day, man, it is.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
And when they take that back piece off and a
waterfall of sweat trickles down your back at now three
in the morning, and it stinks a bit. And uh, yeah,
I've said many a time I'd stare in the mirror
as they were starting this solvent and I just looked
like this ravage drag queen. Ah. That was there were
(35:43):
those were a lot.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
That was a long week, you know, and he knew
every time he was coming into work that he was
going to have to go to a place that he's
not comfortable in.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
You do you have to? It is it's you go
to a zen place where you literally breathe and you're
kind of on your own the whole day. As much
as you can, you know, interact with other people, but
you're still there's this wall up that you're behind. And yeah,
(36:15):
and it's like it's almost as if you're in the
tropics talking to someone who's in you know, sixty eight
degree temperature, but you're in the tropics.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's one thing to play a part.
That's that's that's sort of counterintuitive to who you are
as a person. That's what we do as actors. It's
a whole other thing to have somewhat of a condition.
I guess you'd say where it doesn't matter what the
(36:45):
part is that you're playing, you are suffering from class
and I mean suffering.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, yeah, the tempor accord. I thought that was quite
an interesting concept, you know, some of akin to like
a nuclear treaty. I guess that the way we're keeping
the peace is, you know, everyone plays nice and doesn't
(37:13):
doesn't go back and forth, you know, sodding it up
for other for for other ages to come. And I
thought that was quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well, and also on that note, we find out later,
but I was a little confused about you know, Silic
has been sent there for this reason to make sure
that we don't blow up, and and how that manifests
(37:44):
later we find you know, we do find out, but
you know, at the moment, this is what I liked
so much about the episode is that I don't need
I don't need my hour of television to tell me everything.
I don't need to have it wrapped up and tied
in the bow. I do not. I am much like
law in Order, Yeah exactly, I'm much more interested in
(38:09):
in in the questions that come up versus a solution.
And I like that about this episode.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
It leaves a lot of loose ends, and I guess
intentionally so because they knew that this was going to
be somewhat of a you know, at least one avenue
of our show was going to go down this road,
and this was going to be a returnee.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, but they didn't do it as much as we
thought they were going to.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
No, they didn't. I don't know why. I mean I either,
they just didn't. You know, Brannon has tweeted in the
past that they knew exactly where this was going to go,
and you kind of go, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I mean how that works for audience. You know,
you should know that anytime runners, executive producers, creators of
a show, they come up with a thing called a Bible, right,
and this Bible is the arc of the entire series.
And I think that in this instance, the this might
(39:18):
have been intentional. This might have been thought of as
more of the Bible than it was actually played.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Right in our series, I think you're right, yeah, yeah.
And you know, as we know, by the end of
that first season and we got to shuttle pod one
which was meant to be the money saver because they
spent so much money and if they were going back
to this temporal Cold War, they were like, that's a
lot of Moneys four and a half million dollars. And
(39:45):
apparently the fans didn't understand the word of.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
It right because it was I mean, it's the temporal
Cold War. It's not a new thing to our Is
it a new thing to our series?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't know if that was that was a part
of the I.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Think initial word is it was unique to our shirt?
Yeah right, believe Yeah, So don't shoot me if I'm wrong,
and I like daniels I. We got that cleared up.
Apparently there's subreddit pages of just trashing me if I did.
I an older man. It's not nice to be trashed
(40:26):
on subreddit. I can tell you hurt your feelings. It does, Yeah, yeah,
it does. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
You know, Look, we're look dom. What we're trying to
do here is to uh show and share with our
fans our love for what we've done and.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Kidding we're going to get stuff wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
We did do it, but we are not we are
not students of.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
What we're becoming students and yes, but we were there.
But we were there, We were there, and we're giving
you a unique perspective of what it was like to
be there and shoot this show at the time, and
in real world terms, you know, as actors who got
(41:16):
a really good gig and then thirty years twenty five
years later, you know now really understand just what a
lucky break this was. You know, if you weren't going
to go on to become just an utterly working actor,
you know, going from show to show, and so few
(41:39):
of those do. What a shows we have gotten on
and my appreciation of this just deepens literally months to month,
year to year. Now I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I you know again, I watched this episode this morning,
and it's nice to be.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Surprised at being impressed.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
With something I was.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
I was.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I really liked this episode.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, me too. It was the proper sci fi and
it was you know, the the high jinks technically were
well done, because they can often look hokey and and
take you out of the you know, the reality, and
they didn't. They actually they actually really sucked you in.
I mean that one scene between Daniels and Archer was Wow,
(42:29):
that that was it was like I said, it was,
that was minority report standard. Man. I mean, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Then there's that scene like Trip goes like what's this
boom and its little scream?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
What else? Uh? How does it end? I'm just trying
to think. So with you locking lock I lock up
Daniels' door future reference.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, and you know it's it's it's it's again.
It's one of those I I'm really impressed by this
episode because it doesn't answer anything, but it does move
the story forward.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Yeah. Yeah, because I mean we know that, you know,
he's already Arch has already met Sarren in the Broken
Bow episode. So we know that there's this this subplot
to our entire you know, journey into space that we
have no idea what we're what we're getting into. And
(43:29):
now this is the episode that that it's far I'm aware,
not everyone other than you. I don't think Malcolm sort
of has an idea but doesn't really know, you know,
he's not he's not privy to the The whole stuff
that Arch has been shown is he brings in to
Paul and Tripp to have that scene in. Yeah, so
(43:52):
this is still some of it's under wraps, and I
have to say that. I mean, you know, I did
watch the episode go howcome should be? You know, you
really should have been.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Malcolm was that character in uh Apocalypse now thinking this
episode dominics the dominic's for the latrine, the one who
was like, yeah, man, there's surfing left off of there
on the on the Maykong River.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
If you don't mind the smell of napalm, that's right,
it's a it's a it's a good barrel.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
It's yeah, there's a good waves coming next week, mate,
So you won't see me Thursday through Sunday next weeks.
Off you're in and it looks like it's gonna be
like four to five, the odd six seven. It's yeah,
it's about.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
For the fans here. Early on, one of our camera operators,
Gary was really esful, I think professional surfer before he
became a camera.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Well, I don't know about pro, but he hung out
with the dogtown Boys. Dogtown Boys, yeahah, the Teeth legended
that movie about and then then there was a documentary.
I wanted to tell them not alive anymore, and a
couple of mons went to jail, but he was part
of that crew. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah. So I talked to Gary about surfing early on,
and he's like, I've got a shaper.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
He's going to make you a board.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
And so I did all this research and I wanted
to have World War two nose cone art. Yeah, And
I gave him the design and his shaper made the
board and it took a while, and there was a
long board and it had this sort of Betty Page
kind of yeah flowy. Do you still have it? I
(45:51):
do this black flowy thing all down the bottom of
the board. And I lived too far away. I really
wasn't too keen on surfing, but I try to remember.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I remember your first wife, Ariana kind of give it
an ultimating. You can't golf and surf. I'll be a widow,
right and you you've got to choose one. So you
you chose golf because it was around the corner exactly.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And then I also remember being on this surfboard when
I was still doing it and thinking to myself.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Hmmm, it looks like a seal, looks like black flowy
on the bottom, And I thought right and again, and
then I said, I want to buy it.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
You still have it? I still have it? It's I've
taken it out once or twice. It's a beautiful board.
It's a beautiful board. I'll take a picture of it
and we'll put it up so the fans can see it. Definitely,
it's a beauty's very pretty bored. It's a little big
for me, but yeah, I took it out to Fiji
once and took Themoto's left is an amazing left and
(46:55):
I've got a good few lefts on that board.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah it's six or something or seven.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Nine. It's a big.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
It's a nine. Oh, it's a big. Yeah, it's a nine. Yeah.
You an elephant could get up on that thing, not me.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Ladies and gentlemen, I hope you enjoyed our watch party
of Cold Front. I think it's one of our early
on best episodes about moving our show forward, and everybody
was fantastic in it.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, thank you guys, thanks for watching. Please
we need your support as Patreon members. We we I
know we keep banging on, but if you're about that,
no we can't because if you want us to shoot
live in the studio with good guests, I'm afraid it
costs money. And look, I can't say Connor and I
(47:51):
are making no money doing this. We're making no money
doing this, mate. It's you know, we're doing this out
of love and we hope we're building something. And I
just can't impress upon you, we can't impress upon you
enough how much we need your assistance. And it's it's
not a lot. I'll even say this if you if
(48:11):
we if we put out a poll and say, look,
we'll take down the lowest Patreon membership to five dollars,
would that make a difference a month because art will
do it. You know, we just need your help. We
want to carry on doing this, but we're reminding on the.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
It's a wonderful experience to do this with you, and
it is so yeah, and I think it's got great value.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, No, honestly, it's it's given me a shot in
the arm at this point in my career, my life
to to come back together with you konn and and
it's brought us closer together. And you know, you know,
we talk about community a lot in this day and age,
and if you want to be part of the community
(49:02):
and and be please support us. There we go. Thank you.
I hope you had a good time. We've got a
really good guest coming. There was an Easter egg in
this episode. Some of you might see it. Yeah yeah,
oh yeah, yeah yeah there was. He's not too bright
that one, that's right. I love him all right, mate,
(49:26):
Well listen, have a great weekend now now new guys,
See y'all later
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