Ep 10!

The fellas chop it up, mix it up, serve it up. A smattering of topics, and our usual #shittalk. Enjoy! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Boom Dad Pot Episode ten, Episode ten, we made it
the dimesack officially made it to uh ten.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
We've been here like pamp hare ten.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
To one hundred.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Yeah man, it's yeah, we're back.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Took a break for like a week, yeah, after after
having Onen on, which was pretty intense.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
It was an intense conversation.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, shut out on.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah for him coming out and they shout out Owen
for whooping that ass. And the uh the half marathon
this past weekend, we had a we had a few people.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Come from the gym and like represent out.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
There and I saw he killed it, killed it.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Jane won her division.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Owen gotten third in his division, but prd every every
measurable in the half marathon except for his first or
like his four hundred meter, which like.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, well and that morning he was or whatever the
day before he was fucking squatting damn near what I was.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Scoring fifty five pr at back squad of two fifty
five and he's probably one hundred forty five pounds, you know,
maybe yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, but yeah, shout out that one. That was that
was cool.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
But yeah, we were just before we clicked on here,
we were talking about art and the island, and.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You were just about to start talking.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Going on an interview that you were doing for kind
of rebranding, looking at marketing the islands more more as
an art destination for people to come and check things out.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
And I just want to know about Yeah, I know
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
It was my my friend Christina writes for the journal
and she's talking about a you know, visitor's guide, and
she asked for a quote, and we kind of have
you know, it's it's been in the zeitgeist for a minute,
but like everyone knows San Juan Island's and eco tourism place,
but the amount, the richness, the density of artists and talents,

(02:05):
like it should be equally as as much an art destination. Yeah,
you know, and like we get kind of hamstrung by
the town and the port. Not really like there's not
a lot of art in our town. You know, Like
there's a handful of murals that have been up for
a while.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
And they all portray like the tour not the tourism,
but the like salmon fishing and the canneries and just
like more of that of that vibe, which which is cool,
but yeah, having a modern take.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
On some of these would be dope.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I mean any major city, any art town, like paint
up the electrical boxes, paint up free wall space.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Let the businesses decide.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
You know, we have to go through the arts council
to put a mural up because the Legion did that
American flag out front, and people were like, we should
block this really from being so easy? Yeah, like that's
the American Legion. Of course they're gonna you know what.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I have a huge American play. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and it's not like the coolest, but it's cool
to them. So yeah, And like it's the same as
the censorship thing, you know, like you don't get anywhere
by blocking people. You just drown it out with better shit,
like yeah, if people don't have good ideas, then talk
more about better ideas, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Or come forward with a better idea of your own. Yeah,
you know, don't just question what other people are doing, Like, nah,
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
That, this is stupid. I'd rather have a salmon, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Or yeah and shout out. You know.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
The murals on the side of Ace that Annie outam
Annie hal Adams, did you know, are amazing. She's a
great painter. They capture a very specific vibe.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
That's her life. She was a fisherman for many years.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know, Like that's awesome and let's you know, let's
let's freshen it up, let's get some just some vibrancy.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah. How long have you been on that?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Only eleven years?

Speaker 4 (03:56):
So have you in your eleven years have you seen
the the art culture on the island change?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I think I got here like right when Alchemy
Art Center started. I think they're ten years old. So
to watch them grow, like they're the kind of lifeblood
of multidisciplinary accessible art all over the place.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, that's a wild campus. I've only been there twice
for my Cato's done a few, a few little activities there,
Sarah's done a couple of them, and I've just gone
for like pickups, you know, and like I finally was
able to like park and kind of not even walk around.
But it's I go into one of the ceramic studios
and it's like holy shit, man, Like this is huge.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I mean it's a huge.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
They got all, they got everything in there that you
could possibly want to do, and like it's fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
There's art everywhere.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, Like you get out of your car and they
got I like those those head planters, those huge head planters,
Like I know, they just had a class on doing
them that.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like me and my wife are like, man, we.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Should fucking do that, you know, like chalk it up whatever,
we're gonna be up late, you know, we're gonna be
out of the house past seven thirty. But just yeah,
let's just make it happen and have a good time
and like kind of do that.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
But yeah, yeah, so you know, I mean like when
I when I moved up here, everything was real dead
in the winter.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
It was a ghost town.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Everybody closed up shop and took off to sunnier places
and there was like open mics and live music, but
kind of more of the older heads, you know, like
the guys who have been doing it for forty years. Yeah,
which was cool, but you know, yeah, and then definitely
in the last I mean, pre COVID, we started seeing

(05:55):
more kind of our age people who were looking for
sustainable living and like an artistic community and all that stuff.
And yeah, it's it's I mean, it's it feels active.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Yeah, you know, it does, man, And that's what Well,
what was I talking talking to somebody the other day?
And it was like I was we're talking about it
was Friday night, I was walking, we went out to
Tenth House, had dinner for Mother's Day. Sarah had her
mom up to a little Mother's Day ship. Maybe that
was Saturday. It was when you were hosting a comedic

(06:32):
poetry Dan Derek Derek Brown Saturday, and I've got angels
and demons on my mind, so it went Dan Brown.
But yeah, I saw Peter Peter walking by and I
was like, Oh, you're gonna go check it out this thing,
and then it just turned into this like event calendar
kind of like breakdown.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
And then like Sarah and I were.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Talking, I was like, Yo, there's like a lot of
things happening here in town, like with the beginning of
the season, and just like, yeah, man, it's it's it
does seem very active, like every day of the week, right,
and like especially on the weekends, it seems like there's
going to be I mean, there has to be something

(07:13):
for people to do when they come here, you know,
like you can't just get a little scoop cart and.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Just drive that around all day long, like you have
to That's.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
What people have done up until now, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say the past few years for sure,
it's been like we finally and last year I kind
of really tried to address it, like the amount of
availability of programming was like, oh shit, we should kind
of all talk as a arts community about who's doing
what on what day because we all have the same

(07:45):
group of.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
The same people.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh that's awesome, So.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
If we can kind of be mindful of what hotspots
people want to make sure enough folks get to. I
was kind of worried about that on Saturday because I
was like, you know, nobody up here really knows Derek
Brown outside of the people in our collective and our
poetry groups, and and mostly because that's Danny's og, you know,

(08:11):
Danny's mentor, and.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
So I was like, fuck, like, are people gonna want
to come to this?

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Like?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
You know?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
And he did some free workshops.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I missed the first one and caught well, I caught
the tail end of it and it looked sounded amazing.
He touched on like performance after that, and yeah, we
had probably forty forty forty forty five maybe in the
in the building for his show, and it like forty
forty feels you know.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's a packed out that feels good.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
He had one hundred for Danny h and that was like,
oh shit, everyone's in here, and forty is like all
of the seeding intimate.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Everyone's paying attention.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
It was good vibes. Yeah, I mean successful. But like
there was two other things going on that night, Like
the Fold had their DIY Bike Day, Like you could
in your bike in and learn how to make the
fold is dope.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
The Fold shout out the Fold.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's Kyle and JC of Shadow Basket and the homie
Danny Blue built out a folding stage. It's it's in
Serena Business Park in the like if you come in,
it's like the left corner and it's a kind of
a rentable DIY space. You can throw shows there. You
can rent it for band practice, you can do meetings,

(09:26):
you can do basically the stages fold down in segments,
so you can fold it all down for like a stage,
or you can fold them down for tables.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
They do. Yeah, they got some cool.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
They did a plant swap the other day they did
they just did bike week, so they had like people
teaching you how to maintenance your bike. And then like
Katana Boy was doing a DJ set and a barbecue
because they can open their patio doors and have that
whole little courtyard.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's really really cool. Yeah yeah, I don't I don't
go back there that much.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
It's kind of off the beaten path, but yeah, I
know there's like, what is that sushi?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
There's a sushi spot out there there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, there's a Melissa Wicki has Wayfinder Wellness. She does
like taichi and acupuncture. Uh, the kids do karate in
one of those little units.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, there's you know, things and stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
And then yeah, and and so like between it's feasible
that like the brewery has something, then the fold has something.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
And then when you know, forbid an island or you.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Know, like I guess it's going to be called the
restaurant's going to be Chadswick's. But Jason Sewell's tiki spot
opens up, like there.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Could be a nice little pass.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
He's he's right on Malcolm, so the next block or
like when you go past the entrance to Serena to
two drives down.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
He's got a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It was it's where green Man Landscaping is located, but
he bought the lot next door and he's building out
like a tiki Americana restaurant and are and it's like, damn,
it's like fully, I mean, he's aesthetically like vision wise,
he's a savant. So it's like he's going He's going ham.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's like this is like his dream that I've been.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
I've known him since I moved here, and I've heard
him talk about this stuff for a decade now, and
he's like he's.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Building it up slowly and it's. Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
He's got a little motor lodge that looks just like
you're in Palm Springs. He's got palm trees, he's got
high tiki fifty sixties the core.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's fucking sweet, dude. Cool.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, So like, you know, I think the next as
we look at what the next few years of island
living in island culture is, and then you know who's
going to be, you know, shout out Emilio running for mayor, Yeah,
Pam Hokee running.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
For Yeah, how was that you had?

Speaker 4 (11:45):
You had an Emilio on talking about mayor. Not to
get too too into it or rehash it, but what like, yeah,
what's his driver?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Like what? Yeah, Well he's a younger dude, right, He's
like our age.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
He's younger than us, but definitely closer than you know, candidates.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah I didn't.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I don't, you know.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I know him through like he's a passionate cocktail enthusiast,
so we we talk a lot about cocktails.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
We've done a pop up here and there.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
So I was like, damn, Like I don't really know
what he would be into as mayor. But he works
for the Park Service. He's he's been coming up here
doing that for a long time. His main points that
he was hitting were like transparency between constituents and whoever
is he he's he's dealing with as mayor. You know,

(12:38):
He's like, I'll open office hours. I want to hear
what everyone is feels is important and be able to
relate to you like concrete steps of like what can
happen to that end? And yeah, exactly, you know, I
don't even know what the mayor does, like yeah, you
know he gets.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I want to know about the land Bank. That's what
I want to know about. I want to know what's
up with them, man, Like what? Yeah, yeah, just like.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
What it is? You know, like what?

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Because I understand kind of like a I don't know
a dummies version of like Okay, they have resources that
they use to maintain. So that way, if our property
comes up for sale, like they can buy it.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
So that way a developer doesn't come in and just build.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Whatever it is they they want to build, right, and
they can kind of protect that vibe that the island
has of, you know, being this beautiful little rock that
has I don't know, I mean a substantial ament of
art agriculture, and we also have the arts community. And
then it's just like every direction you look on a
sunny day, I mean it's absolutely beautiful, you know, and

(13:43):
have someone come in and spend whatever they want or
have to like create their own little lowatis. I like
that there's kind of a safeguard for that. But then
also yeah, I just want to, you know, learn more
about that little branch of our local government that yeah,
that seems to have a little sway and how things

(14:03):
are done and like, yeah, the paint job that you
can have on a building or like in town specifically,
you know, because we're talking like with the with the
wreck and at the gym, it's like you can only
have like certain signage based on like square footage or
how much visible like how visible your building is on

(14:26):
the street, like a sign can only be whatever whatever
that ship is.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Yeah, which is weird because they have that legislation for
the town, but there's no like you know, the town
looks kind of bummy, like you know, like yeah, refresh shit. Yeah,
like I think businesses have had to do it themselves,
like you know, like, oh.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Then I've heard that, like you can't. Not that you can't,
but it's very yeah, I mean you can't. Just like
if I want to, you want to paint the building,
like I don't know, whatever color you want to paint it,
like the landbank can say no that that doesn't that
doesn't fit with the lambbanks. Yeah, that's this is from

(15:11):
my understanding again, like I don't know shit, So if
anybody does know.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, we can get some LAMB bank, you know, or just.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Like put that in the comment or something, you know,
like come find me at the gym and I'm not
hard to find, you know, and just like hit me.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
On little games. I don't sound like an idiot on here,
you know, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'm trying to think I know people who work for
the Preservation Trust in the Park Service. I don't know
about lambank, but no, yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
He wants transparency, and he wants transparency.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
He wants, you know, talking about what sustainable tourism models
look like. He wants to he wants to look into
like small towns that have sustainable tourism models that we
could base stuff off.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Of because we don't have to reinvent the wheel.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, affordable housing, you know, like all this all the
issues that.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Are important here. Yeah, and he's an eloquent dude. He's
he's you can tell he's.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Smart, he's you know, he's knows this stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, and I think he he's the type of guy
that like.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
He'll get real zoomed in, hyper focused and like thoroughly
get in there.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah. Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
I I don't live in town, so you know, I
vote for him spiritually.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Do you only get a vote if you live in town?

Speaker 2 (16:36):
I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I think I think you live outside of the Friday Harbor,
Like I think I technically live in Roach.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Harbor and you can't, but then you can't vote for
I don't.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, I think I'm not a town constituent, but yeah,
shout out Amelia, and you know, I'm more what I've
decided recently, not recently, I've kind of reignited.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Is like after COVID. You know, COVID really fucked.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Up my sense of community, and like I was like, oh,
I can't trust anyone, and like all of you people
are fake, and all of you people.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Are because you were you were, you were more, you
were one of the more.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Outspoken individuals, not against.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
It, but skepticism.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
And then like, yo, yeah, let's stop and think about
this because I did just I moved up.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
During COVID, and then I didn't.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
I didn't fucking know anybody, you know what I mean,
Like we just kind of, yeah, stayed at home, you know,
not stayed at home to stay safe, you know what
I mean. But we just I mean my job didn't change,
you know. I mean my job changed entirely when we
moved up here. But like my job wasn't impacted, you know,
I fucking was.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I ran a farm. So like we're outside.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I remember we had this young this young girl came
to like interview for the job, and she got out
of the car and she had the mask on, and I.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Was like, hey, we don't do that here. You can,
but like, don't feel like you.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Need to have that, like we're fucking outside, you know
what I mean, And just like kind of stayed and
that was like my whole mindset through the whole thing
was just like yeah, kind of like trying to find
my people about it. And I didn't have any people
up here, so I could imagine having a community up
here and then being one of the few people that

(18:27):
you know, is I don't say, thinking for themselves, but
like it was just not it.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Was like it just felt it felt it smacked to
me of like purposeful brainwashed division, like propaganda is based
on repetition and like the same messaging over and over
with not enough substantiation for me, you know, and like

(18:57):
just this like.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
The fear, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
And I understood it, like I said before, plenty of times,
Like when it first was popping.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Off, I was like, oh shit, this is it, Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
People are dying in the streets in China, Like this
is finally.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
The this is it the thing, you know, the of
our society.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
So we stayed in, sprayed off the mail with the
fucking lysol, which is like so much more poison than
anything else that you're you know what I mean, Like
it's just it was so dumb. It was like, let's
douse our hands in hand sanitizer, which is terrible for us.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Let's put on these.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Masks that keep us respirating, you know, bacteria and like
aren't really made for you know, Like sure, it makes
sense to me that it'll block spit particles to a point,
but like, you know, before.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Putting them on, taking them off, city down, standing up.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Before cod spitting in each other's faces, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Like, yeah, man, it was just crat and like once
we saw where things were going, like it was like, okay,
there is I understand the arguments of like be my
and full of elderly folk or sick amino suppressed people,
and like all of that.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Makes we talked about it with our kids.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Was like some people are a little bit more COVID
sensitive than others, right, and like you still want to
have empathy, you still want to have understanding for people
that are that might be a little bit more sensitive
to things than you are. But then it got to
the yeah, it's got to the point where like it's yo, man,

(20:27):
like I'm fucking living my life.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Don't tell me, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Like, yeah, for sure, don't stand there and be like,
you guys should die. Yeah, yeah, and we've covered this.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
But so anyway, that impacted my sense of community to
a point where I was like, Okay, like if a
community is this easily fractured by like outside forces of
propaganda and fear, like the fuck are we doing?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
You know?

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I guess it is just us against the world. And
that's not a good feeling, because if that's all the plan,
then they win anyway, you know, if the plans division
and fear and like it's easier to rule people who
are divided, like if we're squabbling against each other.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So when I started open mic, it was purely out
of like I need to gather with people and share
art and vulnerability and positivity and like not talk about
fucking politics and all this other shit and like, you know,
just let it out. And so like, you know, doing
that built some stuff up, and now this push for

(21:30):
you know, there's a lot of people in the twenty
something thirty something age who are like, oh yeah, and
like preparation and resilience and community community preparedness, and people
like Nate Donnelly who are like that's been their vibe
for ever. It is like learn your hard skills. So
if you have to rely on you.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Is that the dude that was alone? Yeah, man, we
should get him on the pod.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh definitely, that would be Hell's He's all about it.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
He lives out here, right, he lives on it. Or
is Lopez He.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Was a lopusion, but he lives here.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
He just he got the care take a job over
at the Lavender Farm for alchemy. He runs a second
Sunday survival school, so every second Sunday he meets up
and teaches people, whether like how to make a fire
from driftwood, how to find water?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
How does that?

Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's by donation?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Shit?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, okay yeah, And it's like he's focused on like
last Sunday was bug out bag, Like here's what to
put in a bag if shit happens and you need
to grab.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
It and go, Like here's what you want to have
in it.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
That'd be interesting because being on an island.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
We're already bugged.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
We're already yeah, we're already like where are we going?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Like we're yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Still like I think more as like if we leave
the island, well.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Just having your car, like you go off island like
it's good to have a little bit of preparations on
you in case. Yeah, I mean especially like, man, if
you're I don't know, driving to eastern Washington and something
happens on the side of the road at night, you're
on the past, like you want to have something, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And he was talking about the rule of threes, which
was interesting and I don't know if I remember it,
but it was like you can last three minutes without air,
three hours without I don't know it was, you know,
it's one of those like three days without water, three
weeks without food, three months without another person.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, some mantra to just have in mind.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, it's basically just preparation.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
And like he's touching base with San Juan Islands Prepared,
which is a new nonprofit, and they're they're like one
of the things they're working on is like, how do
we get a bunch of radios out here and pass
them out to people and train them how to use
them in case the grid goes down? Yeah, like that's
that's like logical ship, Yeah, like reasonable. Yeah, they went

(23:56):
to they I went to a meeting and they had
some old white ladies with like dogs that were like
these are trauma dogs, and like I was like, what
are they trained to do? And they're like nothing, but
you can pet them in case of an emergency. And
I was like, I don't give a fuck about this idea,
Like this sounds stupid. If your dog was able to
like pull someone out of a fire, like bet, let's
talk about.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
It, or forage like know how to sniff out some
like either good or really bad things like that would
that would be awesome. Or you can haul gear, you know,
put a sledge behind it.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
But I think but they were you know, they're like
in an emergency, like these dogs can come and people
can get comfort from them. And I was like cool, great,
like that's fine, but also not my I'm not going
to spend any time thinking about that.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
No, and or like if things are really if we're
at that point, yeah, like we're not going to need
uh a little trauma circle. We're going to be actively
we're gonna be figuring some ship out.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
You know, yeah, so shout out.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Like so basically I want to work in this idea
of resilience, preparedness and awareness into the community gathering that
I already do like open mic, Like yeah, and I
don't know if you know what that looks like for me,
is I want Nate Donnelly to come and give like
little mini Ted talks or assignments or like here's something
to think about in terms of survival or or life skills,

(25:19):
or like hey, next month, the EMS people are training
people on like wound care.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like for free, go check it out.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
So I did a little mini TED talk on the
Green Initiative and weather modification at open mic and like
I get, you know, bummed a couple of people out
changed the vibele a little, but like that's the kind
you know, it's it's it's when we're not aware of
what the powers that be are doing that we're easily
swayed to believe that they're looking out for us, and
especially if it's stuff like Green Initiative sounds like of.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Course, we just care about the Earth.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
We should worry about carbon emissions, we should do all
this stuff. And like my little power point to myself
was like I tried to frame it as like here's
the ideal, here's what they're telling you, like carbon emissions
taxes do, and like here's the danger you know, and
it and of course it always goes back to like
three companies are going to be in charge of setting

(26:13):
what that is charging for carbon points, like like it's
just a monopoly and a centralization of control and resources.
And then there's surveillance tied in, so like they're going
to be tracking your emissions and your car and your
house and your and your smart meters. Like all of
that is all rivers that lead to the sea of
one world government centralized control that we're just like slowly

(26:38):
not that slowly rolling towards yea.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
And you know, I think it's.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
People either are like you sound paranoid, you know, or
it's like, oh, yeah, everything is really about it making money,
you know, because is it you know I neurodivergent brains
ADHD any of that shit.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Like we're good pattern recognizers, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
So if the pattern is clearly in front of a
small group of people is making a ship ton of
money and most of us are fucking drowning, Yeah, what
are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
You know, so so working that stuff in you know,
he's there's yeah, and like what are we what are
we gonna do if if you know, the FEDS deputize
our police force and tell them to round up illegals,
you know, like, are you gonna they can't.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Do that here?

Speaker 4 (27:34):
I was thinking about when all that, when all the
the mass deportations were happening, I was thinking about up here, how.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
They could not do that.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
If you got rid of the illegal immigrants on the island,
nothing would happen. All the people that have these second
third homes and properties like.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
But they're not here, they don't they don't live here.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
They're not here.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
But the people that doing the jobs to keep them
running and maintained are here. And so I don't care
how much money you have, I mean, the immigrant population,
they'll put four or five dudes into a one bedroom trailer, yeah,
in twenty five bucks an hour, where like if you
go away from that, it's like fifty five an hour

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for general labor.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
And it's like, so there's that weird there's that balance where.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Like it's I don't know, you can't you just you
think there's just no way that they would be able
to get deport everyone from especially our community here and
then like expect things to happen.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Well, I don't think the FEDS would care about what happens.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Like I think if they were to do that, it
would be a part of whatever this like political messaging
is or like a destabilization like you know, nonlinear warfare
type shit where like you know, there there was some
sort of act past where the Feds can deputize local

(29:04):
police forces under like keep America Free from Criminal Aliens Act,
you know whatever, and like order them Like okay, so
you guys now are in charge. You are federal wing
in your place, and your job is to round up
illegal aliens.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
And if you want some federal cash, you have to
do it.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, if you want some cool toys, if you want
some gear, you know. So like then it falls to
the level of human in community, like will our police
Will the human beings who make up our police force
comply with that? Will they be like no, this is
fucked up, not going to do it, Like the rich
people who benefit from labor are not going to be

(29:47):
the one standing in front of ice or like locking
arms in front of the trailer park or wherever people
might happen to live, Like that's going to be down
to the normal people in the community who like just
decide that's not it's not right, it's not just, and
like it's not going to happen. You know, and there's
probably not. Well, maybe there is more than I would expect,

(30:09):
like people who are into doing that.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
See I had hope of that, but then bringing like
to bring back.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
To COVID, COVID fucking exposed man, like all the you know,
it's like you want to give you want to give grace,
and you want to think that people are going to
stand up to an authority, whatever that authority is.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Like to stand up to it and not even like
I'm not talking stand up like throw a fucking molotop cocktail,
but just like hey a little bit more information please.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Or or even lower bar is like hey, the hommie
doesn't want to do that. That's his choice, his body,
his choice, yes, what like yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Guys, we're just screaming about all of that for years.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
My body, my choice, you know, like believe minorities, believe
black people, believe brown people like okay, disproportionately black and
brown communities were distrustful of that vaccine, whycause the government
has experimented on them with sterilization and poison.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Like you know, it's like, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Hope more people would stand up, but then it's like.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
My fox hall got real real small.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah you just have me and my wife billions. Yeah, example,
but that also is good, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Like you, you and your wife, probably your guys' relation
probably got bucking solid.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean because of it, you.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Know, same with mine, Like me and my wife, I
mean we, I mean we moved to this little island
and became you know, not just a family, but like
it really made us rely on each other because we
were taking arrows from everybody around us, you know, our family,
our friends. You know, there's still people that we don't
sadly talk to anymore because we And it's not like

(32:01):
it was like, yo, there's a battle line that was drawn.
It was just like, hey, we we're gonna you know,
this way. But people took a bunch of offense to it.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
And my hope, my hope is now that.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
More people after COVID are more open to the idea
of like, yo, they're fucking lying to us.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
They've been lying to us this entire time.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
It's just now we can see it because we all
have fucking infinite knowledge with our phones.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Everything is recorded. But then it's like or before you.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Know, you'd have random people that would like, you know,
have information, but it was easier to discourage those people
and say, oh, they're they're fucking crazy, you know.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
And now it's like, yo, but how's it crazy? If
like it's right here, I.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Can see it with my eyes, I can read it
on documents that have been really like, it's not just
like getting news or you know, your information from like
five different people or fucking five organizations. It is that
people have have been They're more aware of that now, right,
because there's always been a population of people that have
been skeptical, skeptical of the government and just in authority

(33:18):
in general. Like, yo, I'm not I'm not about that.
I don't give a fuck who you are, Like, no,
I'm just not gonna do that. And I think that's
good for people. I think definitely.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
I think that's basically people who are gonna help you
if you know shit is And that's why this this
right and left puppet show divide is like so insidious,
because you know, the the people who are gonna teach
you how to handle weapons if if shit goes down are.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Not Democrats for the most part, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
And like the people who are gonna yeah, it's just
everybody needs to evaluate skill sets and and value the
skill sets.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
And like, if you're.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Living in a small town or a community, you don't
have to fucking agree wholeheartedly with your butcher. You know,
you don't have to agree with your car mechanic, you
know what I mean. But you do need their skill
set and you do need to have some basic respect
and courtesy as far as like we all coexist here,
and like we're gonna give grace.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
We're gonna not be right.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Every time, we're not going to be correct, but we're
going to be civil. You know, Yeah, we're gonna be civil,
and we're gonna be looking long term, you know, like
this goofy old dude with the maga hat. Like if
you get broke down on the side of the road,
like that dude's got all the tools in his car
and he's gonna come help you because it's the right

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thing to do.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Like, yeah, he's not gonna give a ship what you
who you voted for.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
And like if if if you're real loud about it,
then like those you know people or less inclined to
to help you. If you've picked a team and are
vociferous about like this is my line in the sand.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
This is what I do.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And like I think the basic tenets that we all
know are true.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Are you know, like is it just is it right?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Is it is it?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Does it have some angle of compassion or understanding for
other people?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Like cool?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
You know if it checks those boxes I'm in.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, And like are you willing to stand up if
you know shit is going down that's dangerous or or
life threatening or you know, like that's that's what's important
and that's who you identify. As far as small community,
it's still a trip being in a small community, you know,

(35:46):
like and you need it more.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Thinking back about being raised in this, you know, in
the city and then coming here, like the city convinces
you that you.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
That you don't need a.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Community because you can get anything that you want, all
of the time, anytime you want.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Twenty four to seven, we're here in a community.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Like you have to be reliant on people, yeah, I
mean it's just like and that's hard, you know, it's
hard to be reliant on other people.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Because to do that, you've got to you got to
check the box that.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Like you can't do it all, you know, And again
like as as men and as fathers, like we're we've
been told, you know, like you can. You have to
do it all as a man. You you carry the
load and you are the you know, the beast of
burden for your family and you don't ask for help
and blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
And it's just like, yeah, that's cool and all, but like.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
You need something, You need people, you know what I mean,
even on that like to make it on that back
to the preparation and like I don't say doomsday scenario,
but like in that world where like a bug out
bag is necessary and and whatnot, like you still need
another dude because you got to sleep, Like and if

(37:06):
it's your family and my family, like I have to
sleep at some point, right, so I need another able
bodied individual to come and like make sure that my
family is safe yeah when I sleep, or to be
able to wake me up, you know.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
And that's someone that you trust to be capable and
like make the decisions that need to be made that
are not pretty not good, like you know, like we
had to talk about that with the kids last summer
because the lady in front of us hit a deer
and the deer is lying in the road flopping around
screaming and bleeding and like I'm like, fellas, like Daddy

(37:44):
has to go put that deer out.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Of its misery.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
This is not something that I want to do. I
don't enjoy this. This is not fun for me. And
it's the right thing to do because that's in pain, suffering,
and it's going to lie there for hours, you know,
and like having to process those that conversation of like
the right thing to do is rarely the easy thing
to do, and like often it's the hardest choice. Yeah,

(38:10):
And that's why we practice discipline, and that's why we
practice you know, all these family values we try to
give them, and.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
You just got out of the car and fucking stuck it.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Just like and I keep a little a little twenty
two allegedly, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, just for that, Yeah, things like that.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
And the other thing the city does is it because
even in a city, you live in a small community,
Like you got your friends, you got your family. But
what the city does is it it overloads your capacity
for compassion. Like there's so many people that you just
don't I think, what do you have like a limit
of like fifty sixty people that you can like know

(38:51):
the names of and have compassion for their story, you know,
and like beyond that, it's just like NPCs, you know,
faceless nameless humans walking around, and like in a city
like New York, it's like you feel alone in a
street of hundreds of people, you know, because nobody has

(39:13):
the bandwidth to look you in the eyes or greet
you or pay attention to you because A it's dangerous
and B it's like there's just too many people to
do that, you know, Whereas here, like you walk around,
you're looking you know, it's like I'll probably know six
people walking from here to the store. Yeah, And I
like it that way because you know, if I let

(39:34):
my seven year old, you know, pack a little backpack
and walk from here home, then like I know that
at least six people are going to see him and
know him and like take note of it.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, or send you a text and be like, yoya,
the coole were walking around.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
He's on a mission. But yeah he's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And that's you know, that's why a lot of people
chose to live out here. And yeah, man, I think
that community, I think the same the same, whether the
community is meeting at the gym and going through something
hard together or meeting for open mic or meeting for
whatever it is, as long as people are in the

(40:16):
habit of meeting up and talking to each other and
understanding where people are at, like, you know, should something happen,
we're all.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
And that's what's kind of cool.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I'm sure with for sure with the gym, but I
can imagine it's similar to the events and the gallery
and the open mics and all the things you got
going on. It's like you get a wide broad stroke
of different types of people, types of background, types of
political and religious and emotional beliefs, you know, spiritual beliefs,
story like that, come in and it's like you kind

(40:52):
of just leave that out on the street or in
the you know what I mean. Like you come in
here and like, yeah, I can't imagine that the group
that comes in here was like holds it against you,
whether whatever their political beliefs are. They're like, oh, man,
I don't fuck with Nate because he he fucking didn't

(41:13):
get the jab, you know what I mean, or like
he was outspoken about it where it's like I don't
even fuck with him no more.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
But then it's like, yeah, well, my head. What fucks
my head up? Is like.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
A lot of them probably would have at that time.
Yeah you feel me Like, yeah, that's where I feel
like I have to do that. I have to like
dig the poison stinger out is like yeah, like you
know because a lot of these a lot of the
people that I move around with now are like newer friends,
you know, because my friend group was based on where
I worked at and like I worked at Friday Harbor House.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
That was my friend group that stopped.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
I worked at Duck Soup and that's in Duck Soup
was like, oh no, we're you have to get the
shot to work here, and so I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Word, I'm not working here. Yeah you know.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
So, like friend group usually has to do with who
you work with because you spend a lot of time
and like for me to feel like, okay, if this
happened again tomorrow, like ninety percent of these people are
going to do the same thing, and that sucks for
me because it feels like, you know, like you can

(42:24):
real easily teeter into that, like well what's the point
you know, and like, but I think that is the
part where if I am gonna try to take on
any sort of role of like you know, like teaching
or I don't know, offering and offering some sort of
perspective that like, hey, you guys know that, Like I

(42:47):
don't believe the official story no matter what it is,
and like you guys know that, like I'm going to
stand up and say what I think, even if everyone
else is saying something different, Like you can trust me
to do that, Like it may not be correct, but.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
I ain't gonna lie to you. And you hang your
head on that. And that's where I think most people
And I don't know why. I think about it pretty
pretty often of why people don't why that doesn't matter
to people, Like if you say something and it's your opinion,
you know, it's your your opinion, your belief that that

(43:25):
people take it personal like that you're like personally attacking them,
and it's like, man, I don't. I just don't think that,
you know, And like some people get like legitimately like
they just take shit personal, and I don't know if
they want they're like trying to get upset about something
or like it's easier to be to get mad than

(43:46):
to like have empathy, you know, or like to see
someone's other perspective, Like the easy thing to do is
is I fuck them. They're wrong, you know, or I don't.
I don't understand that, so they're wrong.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know. I think a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Is part of this siop of social media, you know,
like I don't think people have.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Time to like really concretize or coalesce like values or
things that they stand for.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
A because there's so much shit going on in front
of them and b because like we're in the fucking
safest country in the world at the best time of life,
Like everything is fine, We're not in danger every day.
We're like, we're cool, Like we're we're we're picking fights
to feel that sense of fight or flight or standing

(44:41):
up for something that righteous indignation or that like strength of.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Like I stood up for what I believed in.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
But like, okay, you know, are you standing on the
corner with a bunch of your friends holding signs that
you guys drew like for what you know, that's virtue signaling,
that's making each other feel good, that you're we believe
the same thing together and we're all saying the same
thing together, and like great, you.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Know we must be right, you must be right. Yeah,
and like.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
COVID could have never happened without social media, you know,
like you can't, you can't disseminate that much shit that
quickly and like hit it, hit it, hit it, you know.
I feel like that was the sigh off of like
how much can we get away with by like the
repetition of the algorithms, you know.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Because we were on it, man, we were as a
whole man, as a whole world.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
We were. We were on them, man.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I know for me, I was, I kind of looked
forward to Insley's He's like Friday, Friday afternoon. He would
have like a I don't know, governor debrief every Friday
to like tell us if we could go outside and
play or not, you know, and it was I remember
like waiting to hear it just to be like yeah,
this fucking guy, because like it didn't.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
I don't know, man, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
It was just one of those things man, where like
like you said, if you if you had any bit
of skepticism in the narratives that we've been been told
and raised on, like this was kind of the one
where it's like, oh I get this, I see what's happening,
you know, Like it was like it became very very obvious.

(46:26):
But then you battle the fear, you fear, like you
battle that like fuck man, what if.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
It's not Yeah, what if it's not, Like but.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Then it's like, yo, if you die, then we die. Yeah, right,
Like we're all gonna go. We're all gonna go.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
And old people are always susceptible, and people who are unhealthy,
out of shape and unhealthy are always susceptible. And they
know this, and that's the stuff that they weren't saying
was was also as telling as what they were saying,
like nowhere were they like well maybe some places, but
like the narrative was not we will subsidize gym membership immediately, we.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Will subsidize healthy local food. We will. Instead it was
like get.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
A free donut, you get the jab, like proof of jab,
get a cheeseburger. Yeah, oh, like you're clearly fucking with me. Yeah,
you know this is has nothing to do with public health.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
There was no subsidies for therapy that were pushed about,
like we're gonna be quarantined, and it's not. It's not
healthy to be away from everyone. And like the shift
from losing the routine of going to work is gonna
fuck with people's brain.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
And you know, it's like none of that.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
It was like learn how to make soured oat bread
and drink a lot, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
That was it people people did, you know. And now
it's like and.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Some people took it upon themselves to like, oh, I'm
gonna get fucking jack yeah, a skill. I'm gonna learn
a language like some people did. Yeah, and and like
that is a measure of resilience that people can still
feel proud of today. Is like even in a society
where like people don't often go through shit that puts
the rubber to the road for them, Like those people

(48:04):
can know like, Okay, I took a situation and I
made the best of it for myself and my family,
Like you know, I can I can feel good that
like I stood on what I believed in and what
I said. Yeah, and like lots of times in my
life I haven't done that.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I've hurt people by lying.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I've hurt people by being you know, not true to myself,
you know, and like.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
This wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
These are these are things that.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
You know, everybody should get the chance to do, and
like should it happen again? Hopefully it's more of that
vibe because even now the Democrat you know, or like
the left whatever, you know, there's a lot more chatter
about like fuck the Democratic Party and like the institutions,
like we're worried about real, actual what's happening to human beings,

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you know, and like what's happening to our community? So
you know, I don't know, maybe maybe it, maybe it.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I'm hope, I'm hopeful, man, I to be honest with you,
I'm hopeful more people are are open to to doing that,
being more reliant upon themselves, like you said, like and
not even on a a fucking extreme, not just be
the best use so your whole community people got to
figure that out. I think you've got to figure out

(49:17):
what is your best you because again, most most of
us are so consumed with the with your work list,
your kid list, your life list, sports, you know, all
all of the things that keep you from actually stopping

(49:38):
and thinking of your you know, to yourself of like, man,
what what do I fucking believe?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
What is my non You know, people know it's like
is my am I am?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I fit?

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Is my body capable of doing what I wanted to do?

Speaker 2 (49:53):
If I need it to.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Do something extreme to save my family or myself. Like
am I eating a bunch of bullshit?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Most you know, I'm in the gym, you know, watching people,
talking with people all the time, and like.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
The amount of.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
People that have a unrealistic idea of their ability both
ways on the fitness spectrum, right, because once you start training,
you you're you're not fit, you're not strong, So it
goes the other way of like oh I can't do that,

(50:31):
where if you don't train at all, it's like, oh.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Man, I yeah I could do that. I don't want to.
I used to be able to do that, and it's
like yo, but like yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Or those dudes are like icye Red, like yeah, I
don't need to.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
Train, yeah kid, Yeah, sure, man, that's great. Like when
when you've got to carry you.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Know something, or just like.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Anything, man, you just have to have that ability and
those people.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Around you that like.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
That, you know, we're capable, right, And that's like one
of the funnest parts about about training and this community
that we're building here is like it's all walks of life.
But then it's like everyone's kind of there for their
own reason.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
But then we all get to like watch each other grow,
We get to learn.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
New things, we get to do new things, and I
think a lot of people don't do that, you know,
I think we and I mean I can speak for
myself only, is I was that way for a long time.
You know, I thought I had it all figured out,
like I don't need to I don't need to do that.
I don't need to do that. I don't I don't

(51:45):
even care about that. I got my things that I
do and blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
But then like once you get out of your your routine,
right and however you get out of your routine whatever
you know, thing that has to happen, you realize like,
oh man, there's a whole there's a bunch of shit
out here that I don't know that now I want
to know or I'm curious about. And it's like, you know,
how do we you know, just keep that momentum going

(52:10):
of of learning and evolving and not getting back getting
stuck back into that that hamster wheel of work, sleep, work, sleep, work, sleep,
fucking vacation per a week or two, you know what
I mean, And then like try to try to just
build off of that with other people that are kind

(52:32):
of doing the same. And that's where again with with
the the shift in the world, you know, after COVID,
it was like you saw that with people. You know,
you saw like there are people that that took that
and and and launched Yeah, and then there's people that
like took that and it's I don't know, man, it's

(52:58):
I don't ruined their life, but like it's definitely taken
years off of their life.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
You know, I've got a cousin that.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
I mean, it's it's it's actually kind of funny because
he was like that shit starter on the internet of
like pro Trump, pro mega fuck the woke, you know,
the left, fucking retarded bob.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
You know, that dude like purposely would get on there
just to.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Spin people up, and then got him since COVID, I mean,
has turned into that welfare loving give me the government
check I got long COVID so I can't work type
of deal, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
And it's like yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
And it's like, yeah, what a I do.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Like you you were the guy that like was against
the mothering of America and the welfare state, and now like.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Now you just want all the handouts because you because
he got him.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
He was getting the fucking the STEM checks and he
was getting the unemployment and it's like, yo, this is
kind of nice. Oh I got long COVID now you know,
let me keep getting these checks, right, like I can't
go back to work, you know, And it's like, yeah,
you fucking lame.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Well that's that fucking long that's that nonlinear warfare of
like keep switching the goalposts and like subverting everything that
people think they know until nobody knows which way is up.
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
It's just it's like three years.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Ago people were on Elon's nuts, like everyone get a Tesla,
care for the Earth or else you're a bad person.
And now it's you know, they're vandalizing Tesla's because they
don't like how close he is with Trump. And it's like, man,
you guys are too easily swayed by words, you know,
like you're if you're disarmed by words. What happens when

(54:51):
someone really gets on your shit, like if you're falling
apart now.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Like what happens happened?

Speaker 4 (55:00):
But it's God forbid, the National Guard or what some
some force comes in and it's like, hey, you're doing
this now or else? Like oh ship yes, sir, Yeah,
you know yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
They were like.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
The you know, ship goes down and it's like, hey,
give me your ship.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, I'm here for your ship. Yeah, you know. I
was talking with a friend of mine on that on
that Tesla. Note is they live in Seattle.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
You know they got they got Tesla's and I was asking, like, yo, man,
you're getting any ship for driving that Tesla around. He's
like yeah, he's like, man, and he pulled up the
video from the Tesla like a little road rage incident
where this dude like blocked in his wife on the Tesla,
got out of the car and like legitimately scared the
ship out of out of my friend's wife. And it's like, man,

(55:52):
what happens if you do that? And like that person
in the car has a gun and they feel threatened.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
For their life?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Like for what? Because you don't like a Tesla no more?
You fucking idiot, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Like, shut the fuck up, Like whether you support the
Teslas or whatever it is, man, Like, are you honestly
willing to get into a physical altercation with another human
for that? I'm gonna tell you right now most of
you are not. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, exactly your

(56:27):
should you?

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Like I was talking with I had a football coach.
I'm coming on, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Help the high school football team with their strength and
conditioning programming program or And so I met with all
the other coaches and they were telling me a story
I'm not gonna say the coaches names of recent where
these coaches work together and one of them punched the
other one in the face. Not at it like a
team event or whatever, but like they got into a disagreement,

(56:55):
and I was like, whoa wait a second, are we
talking about adults here? Are we talking about like grown men,
like of recent time and of like an age of mind.
They're like yeah, And I was like, you gotta be
fucking kidding me, you know what I mean? There is
nothing someone can say to me where I'm gonna punch

(57:15):
him in the face. Yeah, where it's like, yeah, man,
you're think of an insult. And it's like, yep, you're right, Yeah,
you're probably right dude. Well yeah, man, yeah you're fucking jacked. Yeah,
you're fucking you're yeah, you're stronger than me. You fucking
got it. You're probably packing fucking twelve inches too. Bud
Good on you like congrass sweet, you know, and it's
just like, but people get so fucking worked up about it, man,

(57:38):
like and with the Tesla one to go back. Yeah,
it's just interesting because like, yeah, not long ago, having
a Tesla was your signal to the world that you were,
you know, a progressive Democrat that you cared about the environment,
that you were on the screen initiative and why not?
And then and then now he Elon is is close

(58:03):
with Trump and is kind of doing doing what we
all think or a couple of years ago thought needed
to be done with the government, you know, like, yo, tell.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Me, would have trusted him?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Yeah, they would have trust him.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Like yeah, bring in the smartest guy around. Yeah do that. Yeah,
we trust him.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Bring him in because he's he's gonna look at the
numbers and he's going to see if it makes sense.
And it's like, oh wait a second, wait, we we
when our tax dollars are begetting spent on on bullshit crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I would never have thought that, but.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, well you know again, I think it.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
And the homie the other day I was talking to
was like, look, those are the people that are going
to die first. Yeah, you know, the people who are
unable to be aware and pivot and make decisions based
on what's in front of them, like they're gonna get
eaten by the machine or the monster, you know. Like
it's just it's you know, it sucks, but like not
everyone's fit for.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Survival.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, but man, anyway, on that note, it's like, you know,
I think, I think again, and and I I said
it before, and I stand on it. Like the the
discipline and consistency I've found with CrossFit has it's the
only thing that's.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Keeping me out of the cave.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
You know, I would be I'm extremely, extremely stressed about
almost every every.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Aspect of life right now.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
And like getting in the gym and like feeling my
body getting stronger.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Is like boom.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
You know, it's it's the only thing, and like it's
it's stuff that I know, like hypothetically have known is true.
Like I know that if my body's not fit and capable,
I'm not my brain's not working great, and like I'm not,
you know, not functioning to the best of my ability.
And like people know these things and we're getting distracted

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and we're getting confused, and we're getting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
It's cool to see the mental side of it as a.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
As a coach because you see you know this morning,
you know, but yourself, it's like you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I'm watching watching.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
You like this is fucking hard Man twenty fifteen nine rep.
Scheme of heavy deadlifts and burpie pull ups.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah hard, I was done it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yeah, But you get to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
You get to see fucking humans be humans and check
the box of like yo, I'm going forward, I'm going
to finish this, like this is this sucks, this is
really hard. The easy thing to do would be to
just stop. But you get to see it every day,
you know. I get to see it every day in people,
and as not even as a coach, but as a

(01:00:49):
as someone who who trains in that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
In that way, it's one of the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Greatest things that I've gotten from this type of training,
is I know, for me, like I'll do hard shite.
I will put my head down and I will work
harder than anybody that I know, or or I'll try
my hardest to do it, you know. And I think
that kind of piggybacks on the benefit of training and

(01:01:16):
working out that like a lot of people don't know exists,
right that Like yo, when you start like voluntarily doing
hard things, like those hard things become less hard and
you and you just kind of find like your people
in again in that community, you know, and it's been
a yeah, man, it's been really been really fun, you know.

(01:01:41):
And we had our yeah you know, me and I'll
talk training all you know what I mean, like all
day and I love it now because we got now
with the season starting, I mean, we've got people, we
have drop.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
In athletes now that are coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
We've got a couple of return regulars from last season,
like you know, and it's been cool to see and
the feedback that people have given the gym of like, man,
look at this place, like it's I was here last
summer when you guys first took over, and like, man,
look at look at all this, you know, like and
it's it's hard because everybody has a different idea of

(01:02:21):
fitness and you know, hobbies and physical activities, and when
you're trying to accommodate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
A large group of people, right because.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
It's not just a CrossFit gym, you know, like you
want we want to we want everybody who wants to
train in this building. Like it's going to it's going
to ruffle some feathers you know, like and so it's
been fun to kind of navigate that and then also
like try to try to give people an understanding of like, man,

(01:02:53):
this is just kind of what has to happen to
have a space.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Where we can all utilize all of them, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
And we got that weight room coming out that that
they're almost done with, man, Like they we got got
a significant amount of new equipment coming in to where
there there's gonna be I think it's gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
A twelve hundred foot footprint of just a weight room, nice.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Like you know, of getting just more updated equipment and things,
you know, just try to make it so like obviously
people that come here, you know, we have a place
for him, but then like guys like us, like we're
here all the time, you know, and then build off
of that and get more more people to like, I

(01:03:42):
don't know, turn the light on if you will of
like physical activity, mental clarity, how it's all it's all connected,
you know. And I was talking with my buddy Ken
McCutcheon and I saw him some on Sunday. Hadn't seen
him man, And like, you know, his dad passed a
couple of weeks ago, and it was. I just was

(01:04:03):
talking with him about I came in, like my dad
passed two years ago, you know, and it was like
just talking about, well what did you do? And I
was like, man, I just I did what I do
every day, right, like I trained, you know. And a
friend of mine told me, like when my dad passed,
he was like, Kevin, your training in the morning, with

(01:04:27):
your writing, with your training like in the gym, like
all of that is for right now. All of that
is for this moment, because you can take this moment.
And it's sad, right your dad passed. It's a big
one as a man, when your dad passes, you know,
it's the big deal, right, Like, it's it it directly Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
I'm next. I am next, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
And to have the disciplines in order, it just made
it easier, right because it takes out some of that
thinking of like oh this is just where I'm going, right,
and then you have that those moments of training or.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Whatever your hobby is, whatever you do to like keep your.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
Brain moving, right, like whether it's walking or drawing or
painting or writing or you know what I mean, Like
you have to be doing something or you're just gonnaet
swallowed up by the grief and by life, I mean,
And so it was just like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
You know, express this to Can in a way of like, man,
I don't give a shit if you come back to
the gym, really, I mean, I enjoy seeing you, like
you're a good dude, but like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
You got to do something.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
You got to do something, you know, because you now
have to live, right, Like your family is relying on you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Your children are looking to you, and if.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
They if they see you take a dip, right, they're
going to take notice of that dip, right, and then
they take notice. You're gonna notice that, and then it's
gonna be a fucking a quick descent back down into
into where you were before you started.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
And I think I think he'll be back. I hope
he comes back.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
And just like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
You know, just if I can be there, or if
our gym can be there, our community can be there,
like it's like the least we can do, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
I think just those small like you know, like when
I see Can out, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Like, you know, it's like what's up? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Like yeah, because he was a clear like when I
when he first started class to where he is now
just physically and like energy wise.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Was like, oh man, this is working for people.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
You know, there's a few people that I can.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Clearly visually see their body chemistry changing, their composition changing,
like Andrea is looking fucking strong right now, you know,
and like, uh, Julie, you know I can tell people
are like the consistency is working for him and uh yeah, man,
it's just that. And that that kid who uh he's

(01:07:10):
like kind of skinnier, he's got glasses, he lifts on
his own in the morning. He's always there, a Mexican kid.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Yep, I know his name from the check ins, but
I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Like he's noticeably thickening up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Yeah, Like part of.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Me wants to be like, bro, I see you every morning,
like good, good on you ma, Like it's inspiring. Yeah,
like not on some creepy like I've noticed your body changing,
you know, but like real shit, like I can tell
that your your consistency is working for you and you
should be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
People need and people need to hear that. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
I mean, I got no shame in my game. If
I see a dude in there who's jacked or a
woman in whose jack who's putting in the work. It's like, man,
I see you. Yeah, good on you. You know what
I mean, because like weather, I mean, discipline is disciplined
getting to the gym. Like man, there's a lot of
other things that people can be doing other than going
to the gym.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Yeah, you know, Like I mean, I told you yesterday,
I fucking you know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I'm yeah, I'm I'm not sick right now, but I'm
not one hundred percent. Yeah, Like young boys stayed home
from school the past two days, and I'm like, yesterday
I woke up and I was like, man, I feel
like shit, Like I'm just going to sleep and then
I feel like shit, yeah anyway, and I'm like, well,
I could at least go to the gym and then
feel like shit.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
You know that was funny. Man, Cole he did the
same thing yesterday. Man.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
He uh, he wasn't at the six thirty. I'm like, shit, man,
this Monday. It's kind of wild. And then he texted
me later on the day and he was like, Hey,
what time do you get to the gym for the
evening at at four thirty? And I was like, oh,
brought you got to get there today. I'm gonna get
there like three because I got to finish my training
and then you know, he comes in and we did
some kettlebell stuff and same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
He was like, man, I.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
Didn't come today and just all day long, all day long,
I'm like disorganized, you know what I mean, And like.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
It just puts get sold.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Yeah, just like you get to kind of put off
the schedule that you know, right and like because once
you have it, there ain't no coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
Man, you know what I mean? Like you you you learn.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
That, Like, man, this is this helps my body, This
helps my mind, This.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Helps with like every element of my life.

Speaker 4 (01:09:22):
Like this simple act of just showing up is like
the hardest.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Thing to do.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
And then if we can get more people up in there, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Then that makes the community better. And that was my point.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Was like when I got into this small argument about
the climbing gym, I was like, I was like, you guys,
do we know that it's not a net positive for
the community, Like because what the gym's programming has done
already since they took over is like dramatically increase the
health of our community, you know, and like, so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Are we sure it's not that? While you don't we
don't like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Right now because it's the homie like, yeah, you know,
and you probably know this Socrates quote. You're a Socrates guy, right, Yeah,
the quote it's a shame for a man to grow
old without seeing the beauty and strength.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Of which his body is capable. Yeah, and it's real.
It's like if you if you, if you never.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Trust yourself just to the highest points you can, you
don't have to be like I'm not going to be
a fucking bodybuilder. I'm not going to be you know,
like maybe maybe I could still do American Ninja Warrior,
but you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Like you ain't going to the CrossFit games, No, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
But I'm going across fit every day.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
But that's and you get that, you know what I mean.
It's not new, you know what I'm saying. People have
been talking about this for a long time, and like
I'll bring it. I'll bring it to the Bible of
like the first thing that God told Adam and you
can take this, I mean, however you want.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
The first thing he told him to do is like
now you've got to work your job, to work the land.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
It's like the first thing that we were designed and
told Okay, now you have to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
And it's like the amount of the amount.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Of satisfaction you get from that, like you can't express
I can't explain it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
I was talking to someone today about farming. I was like,
never in my life would I ever have thought that
I missed farming. But then the more I think about it,
I was like, why wanted I I get to be
outside all day, I get to use my body, I
get a problem solve, I get to learn, you know,
well this works here, get you know what I mean,
like fucking really fun. And my wife tells me like, well,

(01:11:40):
you know they say that farmers are you know, the
most happiest people in their profession of those measured And
I was like, I could totally see that because you
get to do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
What you put in is what you're going to get out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Yeah, super clearly too, Like if you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Don't fucking work, you can't expect the earth to give
you anything. Like you have to put in the hours
of labor to do these things.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
And the care, the intention.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
The intention, And that's probably why agricultural humans were religious
or spirituals, because like and sometimes shit comes out of
left field and all you can do is be like,
I pray to whatever's bigger than me that we get
through this and it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Give me some water, like yeah, give me some God,
get rid of these bugs, you know for real?

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
Oh yeah, well shit man, that was uh yeah, boom,
yeah that's it man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
We're in the Waterworks Gallery Island Versus Studios. We got
the graffiti show that shout out you for connecting me
with Tyler and uh time.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Yeah, man, it looks good in here. Those have to
come check it out. Come check it out. Pambos in here. Yep,
what do you guys got going on?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
The June show is abstract Green.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
So I've got two No, I've got four ladies from
my from the gallery's longtime roster who are like you know, veteran,
have won Jon Stewart Ross has won many awards for
like women in Painting and women in you know, like
the arts, and Cappy Trigg has been signed to the gallery.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Rebecca Woodhouse.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
And then I'm introducing Angela Navarro and Ellie Camaro and
they are all just they have super distinct styles different
from each other. The theme is green, and uh, we're
gonna pack it out with all all women, all verdant,
lush green Junes and it's gonna be awesome. Yeah, first

(01:13:49):
Friday of June whatever that is, same story. We're gonna
have music, art and.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Community CrossFit side memorial of the weekend Saturday the twenty fourth,
seven thirty at Finlansen am Am Jacob Jackal's Lagoon parking
Lot seven thirty. We're gonna start. It's gonna be Rida
Harbor Run Club is gonna be there as well running.

(01:14:17):
We're gonna bring, yeah, if you got something heavy, rocket kettlebells,
and we're gonna kind of go back to how the gym,
the whole crossman gym started because me and a bunch
of dudes we just fucking carry logs on Finlessen and
we're gonna do it every third Saturday through the summer.
So like, come through. You don't got to run it,

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you don't gotta ruck it, but just come through. And
it's seven thirty in the morning on this island. Man,
it's beautiful. It's a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
And shout out.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
Yeah, come say what's up?

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Oh, come say what's up to our little community of
savages that we're got.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
We got there with that guy. Oh yeah, I had
him carrying around my on it mace.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
The other day around the block and oh yeah, he
was feeling strong.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Yeah. I think my little guys are going to be
there too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Okay, I think Cole will not come, but Rio will
be there. Word until then, decolonize your mind, treat your
body like your favorite instrument, practice with your tools, and
be the light.