September 2, 2025 • 47 mins
Another catch up day with the fellas...DMT, work/life harmony, community, and some good shit that got cut off because our SD card was full! Enjoy what you can, Mic 1 seems quiet but we will keep learning and growing!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Boom dad Pod lucky number thirteen. That's been my lucky
number since I was a kid. It was always the
number I chose for sports jerseys. And then my five
year old had his first kindergarten meeting with his teacher
today and he's number thirteen on the roster.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Wow, Yeah, Man, back at it with keV.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Back at it. Yeah, what's up man, it's it's been
It seems like it's been a little bit, but not
too long, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's been a couple of weeks. Yeah. We had some
you know, schedule up and.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Downs having babies and whatnot. Oh bro IDUs into I
hate to be that guy. But the new normal, you know,
how is uh is the baby sleeping through the night?
Have you heard that one before? There, Nate, have you
heard that house the baby sleeping?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, babies don't really like to sleep,
so sometimes, you know, like they either do that all
the time or or not.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He's pretty he's pretty consistent unless he's he's had like
a pretty sensitive stomach, as they do because they don't
have a fucking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Microbiome or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They're like I've heard I think my wife told me
too that c section. Babies have like a different gut
bacteria too, because they don't pass through the really like
they miss a lot of critical bacteria from the mom. Yeah,
so he's had a little bit of tummy stuff, but
(01:32):
I mean he sleeps like three four hour chunks pretty good.
Like I had him last night, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
When did I go to bed.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I was downstairs in the living room with him, and
I probably went to bed.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
At like twelve thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, me and the wife stay out, yes night owls.
I think about that sometimes, man. I saw, Yeah, they're slanging.
The slanging at the urchin. I'm like, man, that dude
is like doing all up at all hours and you're
at the gym at six thirty. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well that's why I haven't been there that often.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I've dropped it like three days.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
A week still. I mean, as you know, consistency is
really really the whole deal, man, it's the hardest part. Yeah,
it's been I don't know, man, it's like summer, and
so everyone everyone here on the island knows that it's summer.
It's kind of winding down. It feels like fallin. You know,
we've been we've been moving and shaking. I got the
hell I've been up too, man. I went on a
(02:31):
crazy cool hike with one of my eighteen year old sons.
Yeah yeah, we were planning it, me and me and
my boy Ben. Shout out, Ben wild. Like this dude,
other than my family, I'm just gonna gush on my
boy Bend right now. Other than my family and my
relationship and my with my family, my friendship with him
(02:51):
is like my most cherished thing in life, right. Like
he's just like the dopest dude, you know what I mean, always, always,
just like a hard working dude. Like and it's kind
of set his life up to be in the mountains,
you know what I mean. Like he's he's forty, dude,
worked at RII for like fifteen years just to get
(03:12):
a discount, you know what I mean. And like it's
literally set his life up to like be in the
mountains and backpacking and just like just bat dude. And
so I got to go and h and me and
him have been tight. We our story is kind of weird.
We we know each other, we're from the same neighborhood,
but never knew we like didn't know each other. Kind
(03:33):
of knew of one another. And then when he he
went to Wazoo with my younger brother and and those
dhos used to run cocaine back and forth from from
Seattle to Pullman and back running, running fucking jugs man
moving moving cocaine and pills. And then you know, did
that whole thing together, you know. And then just like somehow,
(03:55):
like we convened with our friendship when my older boys
were really young, and like the one vacation that we
would do the year as we would go to Fort
Flagliff State Park in Port Townsend and his parents would
let us borrow their motor home, and like I talked
to him probably once a year, and it'd be like
(04:15):
the month before Memorial that we can be like, hey, bro,
we're still good with the motorhome. Yep, whenever come get it,
you know, And it was just like, yo, these people
are just like hellaku. And then kind of like reconvene
back with COVID and like I'd always see him on Facebook,
always posting just like dopest pictures of like being up
in the mountains, and it's like I'm like married with kids,
(04:38):
not able to do. I don't want to say not
able to do anything like that. But my life wasn't
set up for me to to prioritize and enjoy things
like that, where he's just like out there fucking living
and kind of like just reorbited together. We're like, I
messaged him about a hike. No, he messaged me because
we were both members of the puge Down my Cology Society, right,
(05:03):
and he saw that and he hit me up and
then it just then we started talking like mushrooms, and
that turned into talking about psychedelics, and that turned into
talking about d MT and like he just like came
to the crib. He was like, yeah, d MT man,
I've been wanting to do that for like a minute.
I was like, we'll come to my house. You know,
I'm not going to sell you ship. I'm not. I'm
(05:24):
not that dude, but like, if you want to experience
this this trip, man, just come to the house. And
were you doing that regularly? Not regularly, but I was.
I think by that time at that point, I'd probably
done it, I don't know, four or five times, like
four or five nights, you know, like whatever experiences if
(05:47):
you will. I was microdosing and taking money and then
macro dosing on occasion pretty pretty regularly then just because
the world was going crazy. This was COVID. This was
like right kind of when I was exiting out or
working for DC. Yeah, and it was like, dude, came
to the crib, you know, did some DMT together, and
(06:09):
then it was just like, yeah, we're best friends.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Did you always have good experiences with the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
D always Yeah, Yeah, it's scary as ship, dude, it's
it is terrifying like that I will I will, or
one time with Ben and then my homegirl shout out
Heather Balanzuel though we had just met Heather. Heather went
to the gym that Sarah and I met at and
we were like we didn't really know each other, but
we kind of orbited at the gym. But then when
(06:36):
the gym closed for COVID, we would just like bring
people to our backyard and be like, Yo, we're gonna
we're gonna train, Like if you want to come through,
come train, and and she kind of took she took
Sarah up on that. And then that was probably on
like a Tuesday or Wednesday, and like, Yo, we're going
camping this weekend. You want to come And she's like yeah, yeah, sure,
we're gonna do DMT. Okay, And so we go out
(06:59):
to the campsite out in like Stafford Creek, Tianaway Ridge
or somewhere up there, and the whole wilderness is closed
down because there's a dude out there that just murdered
two people. And so yeah, so like yeah, so like
there's all of these bolos, Like a bolo is like
if you think of like you know, an old the
western of like bolo stands for be on the lookout, right,
(07:22):
And so there are all these pictures of this like
burnt out little Mexican dude, like, and I'm looking at
that like, Okay, that guy's got a serious drug problem.
There's no way he's hiding out in the woods, right, Like,
you can't get drugs in the woods. So we're safe,
right like, and there's and Heather and Sarah are just
(07:44):
like do what what are we really going to do this?
I'm like, yeah, what why not? So we get there,
we're pat We're driving around all of these like you know,
road blockage, you know, road clothes kind of things, and
then we just like set up camp and we got
little catos there with us. Long story short, back to
the DMT we're by this river like or creek. I
(08:06):
think it was like Stafford Creek and fucking scariest thing
I've ever experienced. I mean, like, if you've never done
d MT, we've all heard about it and like kind
of the lift off and all that, but like the
magic is when your eyes are closed, right, Like when
(08:26):
your eyes are open, everything looks like what the vampires
on Twilight look like when they're in the sun. So
it's like just like diamonds and shiny. But bro, when
you when you keep your eyes closed, that's when it's
like holy holy shit, right, And so I'm like, you know,
(08:47):
on this one, hit, two, hit three, hit, and then
I can feel the like the creek like moving, like
I can feel it in my brain and it's like
rattling my brain. It's like so loud and terrifying. And
then I feel my energy like hella scared, you know,
like holy shit, man, this is like I got nothing
(09:09):
compared to that. And then all of a sudden they
just kind of like linked oh and it was due.
It was so terrifying. And my buddy, you've been after
it was like, dude, I swear when I looked at
you because I opened my eyes. I looked at you
and I saw something leaving your body, Like I saw
like some thing out of there, and it was just like, yeah, terrifying,
(09:32):
but also like satan. I don't know. I mean, it
was just no idea because it wasn't. It's not terrifying,
it's not it's not scary like a like a bad
acid trip or a bad mushroom trip, but scary because
it's like, yo, this is like you you get put
in your place of like what you really are, scary,
(09:53):
like grabbing onto a bullet train like and like and
this is and you're gone and you realize like, yo,
I'm I'm literally just like a bag of meat and water,
and like everything else around me is like you know
what I mean, like made of something but also has
like some sort of energy in it as well. And
you realize like, yo, you're not You're we're just not
(10:15):
the top of the food chain, you know, we're just
like part of the system, which is scary. You were
smoking it, you're smoking it. Yeah. So we got a
little a little pin, a little I mean it's a
little bake pin man, and like, oh yeah, I tried to.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know, back in the in the music days there
were like d MT hit the scene and like everybody
was like you gotta blast off, man, lock it into
the oneness. And like I was like, yeah, word, it
sounds good. I got some from somewhere. And like me
and the wife or me and my back then my girlfriend,
(10:51):
we were like cool, so we'll just like put it
in the weed pipe and hit it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So we we're.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Just in our living room and put it in the
weed hype and light it up and hit it, and
like immediately stuff starts pixelating and like melting, and like
all I can like the most powerful sensation was that
burnt plastic sensation and like my fear brain was just
(11:19):
telling me, like the apartments on fire, like and you're
tripping and the apartments on fire, and like everything is melting, melting.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And like whoa, whoa, whah, woah what kind of like
a you know, like a like a whippet or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But it was it was got the nyangangs and like
the smell of burnt plastic and ozone and like I
just never I never left that place. Yeah, and like
I would, I would look around and stuff was just
like pixelated melting, and I was.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Like this fuck, it's just not fun. This is terrible.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, And like you know, I don't even know what
time passed, not a lot of time. I like got
in the shower and tried to like focus on the
water and try to clear it out.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You know. Yeah, I kind of do when I do it.
I mean, man, I smoke joints, you know, but like
if I know that I'm going to take take a trip, like, man,
I don't I don't smoke, I don't do nothing, you
know what I mean. Like it's it really is like
kind of ritualistic, you know, like it's kind of its
kind of a process where like because you you are
(12:21):
immediately not here, Like if you open your eyes, you're here,
you know what I mean. Like we could do it
right here and be like, oh shit, man, like damn,
Maria's statue looks fucking wild, you know, Like but when
you close your eyes, it's like I'm not again not
to be like corny or like cliche, but like you
see how everything is working, you know, Like I did
(12:42):
one of them. I did a nice little experience up
on Mount Constitution one time with my boy Ben. We
went up there, We hiked up there, got to the
top cut off into this little valley, and that is
where for me, no one will ever be able to
can convinced me that the creator is not of feminine
(13:05):
origin like you. I mean you interact. I interacted with
this like really funny, really kind of witty, like you're
thinking something and then all of a sudden, like as
soon as you think it, it's like he know, you
know what I mean, Like it's super intense and great
(13:26):
and a fun time. Is energy, totally totally trickster energy.
It has to be you know, like you and again
like as as an artist and as to another artist,
like that's where art is made, you know what I mean,
Like you can't just be some lame like who's completely
black and or white and and and and and dig
(13:49):
into that right totally.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The last In the last week, three different times, in
completely different contexts, the word trickster mischief has been brought
up in terms of what people are feeling right now
or like trying to lean into or not lean into. Yeah,
I don't know what that means. But the first ones
were my kids, you know, they were writing down you know,
(14:13):
at school, They're like, tell us about yourself, what do
you want to be? What you, and my five year
old wrote I want to be a trickster, you know,
like I want to do mischief. Yeah, And my seven
year old has said similar things recently. And then some
young kid when I was setting up at the bar
the other day popped in and was like, Hey, have
you had any like very weird, abstract like visions come
(14:36):
into your head recently? And I was like, I don't
think so, man, yeah, not that.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I can recall, yeah, elaborate and he was like, well,
I've just you know, I've just been really feeling this
strong like trickster energy vibe, like mischief energy, and I'm
trying to decipher how to like balance it and where
to apply it and you know.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And like went on on this long, like it was
a really cool conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
He's he's a trippy kid.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I like him. And then another couple I just met
who popped in and we're like immediately like, oh, this
is this is the vibe, you know, they kind of
unprompted said the same thing, and I was like, well,
maybe there's just a frequency right now that yeah, and
if you're and if you're feeling like that's connected with
larger deity stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh, for I mean for me anyway, that was my experience, right,
and I think with everybody with all of it, it's
kind of personal. But then again, it's like it's interesting
when you talk to people that that have done DMT
and they've they've gotten they've gotten to that place, if
you will. It's kind of all people kind of meet
or see kind of like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, right, I've heard that about ayahuasca.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, well ayahuasca is a is the natural d MT
where And I guess that one takes like a long time.
It'll be like four six eight hours or something like that,
and you shit your pants. You know. I don't want
to do that, you know, like I want to if
I can do it and like go to work the
(16:06):
next day, you know what I mean, like just kind
of like still kind of function for a while, Like, yeah,
that's what I want to do. Your brain produces upon
death right and burrow. Yeah. Yeah, it's wild, man, It
really is interesting. Yeah, so I gotta do that with
it with my boy Ben, and I almost brought it
up when we went up on this hike. We went
up to Baker and we did I don't know, some
(16:30):
thirty miles of like eleven thousand feet elevation, Like it
was me Ben and one of my eighteen year old
boys who now, like right now he's in Nepaul just
hiking with his buddy before he comes back and moves
to bellying him to go to college. But it was
it was so much fun to just like kind of
be the spectator on that hike because I'm like, I mean,
(16:54):
one my boy's eighteen, so like this fit. You know.
My dude, Ben's like a fucking mountain goat, you know,
like it's what he does. So he's just like cruising,
you know, I mean you know what I mean, like whatever,
He's just kind of joking and smoking, and I'm just
like fucking not having not having a good time like
at all. You know, like every step is like not fun.
(17:18):
But to watch them and to watch their interaction and
to watch their relationship develop is just like it was
so special and I just I again, man, it's one
of those moments where like I got to spend seventy
two hours with my eighteen year old son, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
He he got to see.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And was cool because he got to see or he
looks at me as someone who's really physically capable, right,
and he was like, Dad, I thought you were. He's like,
I was expecting you to like blah blah blah. You know,
I wasn't gonna be able to keep up. And I
was like, dude, man, like, y's your turn now, you
know what I mean, Like I'm a passenger in your ride.
(18:01):
Like and so it's so cool for him to like
see that firsthand that like yo, man, like I'm I'm
more advanced or I I have this on my dad now,
you know what I mean, And like as a father,
it's like cool, man, take that energy into the world,
you know what I mean, Like now you have somewhat
(18:21):
of a somewhat of a kind of a kind of
a ritual a boyhood to manhood. Right, you getta go
up in the mountains, you gotta do hard shit, you
gotta spend time with other men and just like just talking,
you know, Like, so I'm incredibly grateful for that, and
that was Yeah, it was just wild man like. And
then again speaking like on the on the DMT, like
(18:43):
after we did all of that, we got back to
camp and I've never seen the clouds the way that
they were when we were up there, like ever, like
and I one of my couple of my friends are
they believe that the Earth is flat. And I don't
say that sparingly, Like I love these people. I love
(19:05):
that they believe these things. I've never really given that
much thought until that day. Yeah, like it looked you know,
I just got done reading the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The Book of Enoch is a book from the Bible
that was removed. I don't know when it was removed,
but I could see why it was removed because Enoch,
who in any like theology people will will let me know, please,
he is the great grandfather of either Moses or Noah. Right,
(19:41):
pretty prominent figures in the Bible. It's got Enoch gets
brought up in what I read as essentially a spaceship,
and he's been flown around and he's looking at these tunnels.
And these tunnels are where the sun and the moon
come in and out of the winds come in and
out of these tunnels, the stars come in and out
(20:02):
of these tunnels. And it was like I'm up there
like looking at these clouds. I'm like, yo, man, Like
that's I could totally see how people think this. And
my boy Ben was like, dude, I feel like it
kind of looks like a d MT trip, you know,
and like haven't been able to get it out of
my mind. Actually texted in like two days ago and
it's like, dude, I can't get that out of my mind.
(20:24):
Like I don't know if there was like a break
in the fabric of our reality or what, but it
was like or we were just fucking tapped because we
had just hiked a whole bunch and eight smoked salmon
and dried mangos. But either way, like, yeah, what's going on,
you know? But it was, Yeah, it was just ship man.
It was it was a good time. And then yeah,
(20:46):
I worry about like.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Sometimes I worry that I'm not I don't have access
to those type of experiences because even you know, the
mushrooms and the acid I've done and in my life,
like I never really had those like big breakthrough moments,
and I can't I don't. I can never tell if
like I'm holding myself back in some way or if
(21:09):
I'm I just you know, I'm like I've never really
had that, Like, oh yeah, I've had like glimpses of it,
and I've had most most of my psychedelic trips have
have been more like therapy, like yeah, oh shit, like
here's some shit I need to look at more, or
like here's something that keeps recurring, or here's a feeling
that keeps getting brought up that's uncomfortable, and like it's
(21:33):
rarely my trip's like fun.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, totally. And that's I'm kind of the same way
except for DMT, because I don't think DMT is meant
I don't think any psychedelic is meant for like recreation,
you know, like I don't. It's not one of those
ones where like I don't think you should be taking
it when you're in high school. I don't think you should,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, no, it's just
(21:58):
not going to be a good time, you know. And
my older boys who were now eighteen, I remember when
they were going through high school and I talked super
open with him, always have like and they would call
me and talk to me about mushrooms, you know what
I mean. They would hear me and Ben be talking
about mushroom you know what I mean, like, and I
would just talk to him like, dude, you guys n man,
(22:20):
like you don't don't do it if you do, right, like,
if you do, you don't need to take four grams
telling you right now. Like if one of your friends like, yo,
let's just just you eat an eighth and I eat
an eighth, I'm like, dude, you will not have a
good time. It just won't happen, you know, Like and
(22:40):
then sure, shit, you know, they eat an eighth. They
eat an eighth and they freak out and they call me.
They're like, dad, so and so punched our mom in
the face. I was like, oh shit, uh is she okay?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But he was gonna die And I was like, oh no, man,
you guys be laughing about it in like a year,
you know, like he was just fucking curving out. But
I don't know. Yeah, it's just it's a fun one. Man.
I've been really it's been on my mind lately, like
to to kind of re explore that data. Yeah, because
(23:18):
it's just one of those ones where, like, you know,
you get sew For me, I get so caught up
in just like my life and my shit, shit, I
gotta do, you know what I mean, Like trying to
find the balance between and not I hate the word balance,
trying to find the harmony between business and family, you know,
trying to find like how it all works is it can't.
(23:39):
There cannot be a balanced, right unless unless you want
to work. You know, you're a shift, right you work,
you know, eight to four Monday through Friday or whatever,
then you can have a balance, because that's just where
you're at. But if you don't have that, you're you're
always working unless you set kind of your your parameters
(23:59):
on when you want to do X, Y and z,
And usually it becomes very easy to like prioritize that
instead of like, oh shit, yeah, remy, show me that,
you know, like show me Kato, show me this, you know, like,
but yeah, so I've been really oh totally totally man.
(24:23):
And it's like if I got to find a setting
and a time and a place like, that's the whole
that's the whole deal, you know what I mean is
finding a place where like you can just go and
and kick back. And luckily we got a lot of woods,
oh man. And that's and that's where I think I'm
gonna go. So I think I'm going to go somewhere
on the coast here. A friend of mine just told
me about some little cove near Granny's that's like a
(24:48):
single occupant cove. Yeah, like and I was like, oh, man,
like I could do that, you know what I mean,
Like sounds better than taking mushrooms and going to Eagles
on a Saturday. Done that you catch old keV in
the corner, just like talking to nobody the hermit. Yeah,
or you know, I remember one time we moved up here
(25:10):
and we're we're at False Bay and took some mushrooms
and it was like, dude, I could walk. I could
walk to the mounta right near Hey, Kato, let's walk
all the way out there, you know what I mean,
because it was like a king tide or oh yeah,
I think that's what it's called, right. I would wait
the fuck out there, man. And but yeah, yeah, so
(25:33):
maybe when my boy band comes up here again.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, I checked in. I was feeling that feeling.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
God, it must have been last summer because I had
taken like ten years off. Yeah, you know, because the
last four trips I had we're just at like that.
All of it was the same feeling of like stuck,
like the next levels there and I'm trying to break through,
and I'm trying to like dig my way through the
sun and it does work, and it just feels like frustrating.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And uh so I took you know, I took solid
ten years off. And then last year I was feeling
feeling that poll too, and uh my family happened to
go out of town and I was like, word, I
got I got seven grams.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Of this This penis envy.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
From that, my friend's brother collected like one of the
youngest my collegists in the country or whatever, and I
was like, boom, I'm gonna set my intentions. I'm gonna
like write down what I'm asking. I'm gonna I'm gonna
be I'm gonna have music ready.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Outside first set the tongue.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I fucking diced them up, put him in a like
with a pesto and a broth with yoki, and just
like had a meal, just like leisurely comfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I was like, we're going heroically, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And then I went outside into the woods and like
immediately was like the bugs are trying to fly up
my nose.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
So I dip back inside and like, you know, I was,
you know, the paintings started doing the thing and the stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And the you know, the music, and uh, it just
basically I just ended up dying, you know, having that
that death experience of like all I can do is
know that my spirit mind is trying to leave this body.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Like so you know, like you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Lay down, you have that that feeling of like sick
and like trying to squeeze out and like tremors and
and like in my head, all I'm I'm I'm doing
is like.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You just gotta breathe and let go through this, like
you have to did this to yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, and like even if this is.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Death or dying, like you know, you're letting go into
what you know is like a larger thing. And but
the grief is leaving the specifics like I could go
into the larger energy and like we're all the oneness,
but like the very specific pieces of my kids and
(28:13):
my wife, you know, like and my friends, like those
are pieces that I enjoy, you know, and like I
I I was feeling grief of like you know, not
getting to experience them in those in their forms as individuals.
And of course at that point it's too late to rewind.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
So yeah, just you got to just hunker down, breathe.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And release and it just you know it basically it
felt what I imagine like dying feels like, and it you know,
I woke up the next morning like grateful to be
back with the individuals and with the pieces and also
knowing that like, Okay, the hole is out there, you know,
and it's you probably would know them as as energy pieces,
(29:00):
but like I'm glad I'm doing this right now and
I don't need to.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But it basically showed me like I don't need to
try to get out there.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I need to fucking dial in on being me with
them as me and them. And but it also helped
me my my one of our family friends, my mom's
best friend, who was like my aunt babysitter or whatever,
but as a kid, was dying of cancer. And I,
you know, like the week after I flew out and
sat with her and like very much recognized that feeling
(29:33):
that she was feeling of like know and you gotta
and like the people around her, like her partner, and
it was just you know, they were not about the
let it go, like just let go, like they were
like hold on and fight for every second. And I'm
like trying to give her like it's cool, man, just
like let go.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You know, yeah, you don't have control of this. Yeah, yeah,
you know That's what I've I've gotten with mainly from
my adult psychedelic experiences. Just like that reminder of like, yo,
are you not You're not in control? Yeah, you know,
like you can, you can try to set things up
as much as you want, but like you you were
(30:18):
just a passenger, you know, Like and for me, it's
gonna helped me knowing that of like, Okay, if I'm
just this isn't my world, if I am a part
of everyone's world, I'm just gonna be cool. I'm just
going to try to be cool and be kind, you
know what I mean. We're like before, you know, and
(30:39):
partially probably be oh yeah, I mean working working in
in prison, we'll set battle lines, you know what I mean.
You can't just like turn those off. And so I
think coming out of prison and then taking these experiences
and legitimately trying to learn from them and trying to
(31:03):
become a different person, like it all just kind of
culminates culminated into like a really positive experience, you know,
Like where I mean I would go, I would go
to work and be like, man, you guys, I don't
know what you I don't know what you should be doing.
But I know you should not be drinking liquor every night,
and maybe you should take like a little bit of
mushrooms or maybe hit the weed, you know, like, and
(31:26):
people would look at me like I was fucking insane,
insane because these are like, you know, it's the law.
You know, these are dudes that like their job is
to like keep and maintain order and structure. And it's like,
but it's like, bro, you're.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
And go with the socially prescribed.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, but it's like Joe, it's one o'clock in the
in the afternoon and like you're shaking because you haven't
had a drink, but you're talking shit to me because
I had half a joint last night. Wait a second,
I don't Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like for me, man,
you know what I mean, Like it's legal here, but yeah,
I don't know. So, yeah, it's been good man. It
(32:07):
was Yeah, shut up, DMTA. That's a whole it's a
whole rabbit hole to go down. Man. I remember remember
the first time I did it. I was with Sarah.
We're at her house, and I had no idea what
to expect. I was just like, babe, whatever, happens. Don't
let me go outside, you know, like I don't know,
you know what I mean, because you hear, you hear
(32:29):
the stories you hear. Yeah, just you don't know. I
had no idea, and I was like, yo, just don't
just don't want to go outside. And the first time
I did it, I kept my eyes open. The whole time.
I was like, ooh, this is kind of stupid. It's
not and it's like fifteen minutes, you know, like maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That's where I went wrong. Maybe I kept my eyes open.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It that's the magic, the magic. And every time I've
been I've worn I used to wear a fit bit
like a little heart rate round and air tracker. Every
time I've done DMT, I've had to take it off
like mid mid time because like I could feel it.
I could feel the energy and like the electric electricity
(33:11):
from the fitbit and like I gotta get this plan off,
you know what I mean, Like get it out of here,
you know, because it's just like it puts you in
a place of like I don't know, man, I mean,
you talk to you talk to the things that you
can't talk to regularly, you know, and you see where
(33:31):
for me is seeing where it all comes from, seeing
how it's all kind of orchestrated, you know, like and
that was the big one that I had when I
when I was up at Constitution, was seeing we were
in this little valley like off the trail, kind of
in this mossy beautiful field and lack of a better word,
(33:53):
but not a field because it's in the woods. Meadow. Yeah, meadow, Yeah,
that's it. And it was just like I could my
eyes were closed, but I could see like the energies
of where of everything around me, you know, think of
like the matrix kind of where you got all the
like this, but it wasn't all green and black. It
was just like beautiful hues of red and orange and
(34:18):
pink and yellow. And then you'd had these like didn't
look topographical totally totally, and you could have and and
then you had you had the feminine energy that was
like show, this is what are you doing over there?
You know, and it's like as soon as you as
soon as I would like have the courage if you will,
to interact with it, no, no, no, and it would like
(34:40):
pop over here, you know, and it's like, oh shit, okay,
it's kind of fun, you know, and like, oh, yeah
it was. It was a blast. It was a blast.
But yeah, so there was that. Yeah, so I gotta
spend time on the on the mountain with those dudes
and like, yeah it was, Yeah, it was a great time.
(35:01):
And then that's really been what's up man really, And
then the gym and then football team. You know, like, man,
that's uh, that's been really fun, man like being the
strength and conditioning coach for those guys, like it's pretty fun,
man like. And and the water boy and like officially
(35:22):
the water Boy. Yeah, I think they do love it.
I think I think they are understanding that there is
a need for structure, there is a need for a
way of doing things when it comes to training. Were
(35:43):
they just kind of hitting Yeah, I think so. I
mean I mean high school, Yeah, I mean five y
five's a bench deadlift squad. Do some bicyp curls, do
some lap pull downs, you do some tricep extensions, you know,
you do some sit ups, all the all the things.
And then I just kind of had them do mentally
(36:07):
hard training sessions ones where it's like, dude, the movements
are not difficult, but you just have to do it,
you know, like Bear crawl for thirty minutes, let's go,
you know, and like and I did it with them,
you know, and then we did god, we did some
grinders of bear crawls, and then we did some grind
(36:28):
like Burbie broad jump, just like things that they don't do,
you know. And then yesterday we had our first actual
time in the weight room. So yesterday was the first one.
And during the season, I'm establishing the mobility Monday. So
like Monday's kind of like film day, where like they
(36:49):
watch film with the coaches and they break them up
into like linemen skilled positions, right or you know, the
speedy guys. And so when the linemen are watching film,
I get all the speedy guys, you know, and I
get him in the weight room for like an hour.
So it's like, all right, we're gonna do mobility for
twenty minutes and then we're gonna do some sort of
(37:11):
like active recovery. Maybe later on we'll like actually do
some weightlifting, but not really, you know, I just want
to kind of help these kids understand that, like there's
rules and there's etiquette when you're training, you know, it's
not like who can lift the heaviest, like no one,
no one cares really yeah, you know. And then one
(37:34):
of the kids asked me. He's like, man, do you bench?
And I was like no. He's like really, He's like, well,
how'd you get how'd you get a chest He's like,
I don't know, man, I just I do you know
all these other things. He's like, when was the last
time you benched? I was like, I've benched one time
in the last fifteen years, straight up. And he's like,
(37:55):
what'd you bench? I was like, I did two twenty
five for three and he's like, really, but you don't bench.
I was like no, man, Like, there's so many other
things out there to do, and just being honest with them,
I was like, I don't see the value in the
bench press personally, Like I don't see when or where
you would ever need to do that, that movement in
life that would like we'd be like, oh, I'm so
(38:18):
glad that i'd bench heavy, you know, and like, but
then again, I do understand that it's fun, you know,
it's then fun to get the chesticles all swolled up,
you know what I mean, banging them out with your buddies.
But I want to really try to break that the
concept for the young athletes, you know, And right now
(38:39):
it's just with the football team. Ideally, I want it
to be for all the kids. Man, because we we
donated we as in we asn't Me, and the nonprofit
that I'm starting, the Fitness Fellowship, donated like thirty something
kettlebells a bunch of slam balls to the high school gym,
(39:00):
right just like, man, you guys need these a bunch
of different pairs. So that way, like no matter what team,
no matter what athlete or staff wants to use it,
like they're there, you know, Like I don't care about
any sort of ownership of them, you know what I mean.
Like if I can go there and I can I
can help people or show people like what I know
(39:23):
from them and they can benefit. Cool if someone else
has knowledge and experience that they can use with that
and they can help their team, awesome, you know. And
so it's been fun to kind of god like really
get swan dive into the community, you know. And I
kind of got tripped out the other day about that
of how like yeah, I mean Friday night, it's like
(39:47):
a big deal, you know what I mean, And like yeah,
and so it's like gonna be there on the field.
Will be kind of interesting because like now I just
kind of like pop into the gym. I'm at the
gym where I'm at home. You know, I'm at the gym,
I'm at the farm, or I'm at home, you know
what I mean. Like, I don't don't really mingle too much,
you know, other than with the people that I train
(40:08):
with the kids that I coach. And now it's like,
so it'll be interesting to to kind of hop up
in there and see see what it's like in a
small town for football, because I can imagine that it's great,
you know.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Like I've never been to a game, but I've heard
it's popping.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, And like we have the jamboree on Saturday, and
I'm on the field and I look up at the stands.
My family came with me, is in Bellingham. I look
up in the stands far top left, I see Sarah
Sochi and Cato and Remy Kato and Remy got their
shirts off, you know what I mean. And they're just
like fighting, hitting in each other with shirts and trying
(40:47):
to like wrap them around each other. And so I
told some of the players are like, yo, man, see
those dudes up there. They've been tail getting since six
thirty this morning. If you guys aren't going to bring
the energy, I'm gonna bring them down here, you know.
And so the idea of them running around the stadium
with other kids on a Friday night like totally safe,
(41:08):
totally just like being a kid having fun. Like yeah,
it's just like it was as warm as my heart
to know, you know what I mean. And like, and
Sarah and I talked about it because she's like, I
don't know, you know, I might be putting it on
a blast a little bit, but whatever, like I don't
really know if this is like my my thing, you know.
And I was like, oh, it's all good, Like it
(41:28):
doesn't have to be your thing, you know, but like
you got to show up, you know what I mean,
Like if our dudes want to play ball, like you
have to show up, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
She's like there is something to that that feeling of
like it may not be your thing, but it's a thing, yeah,
you know, and it could be our thing.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah it could be. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My wife is similar.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
She's like I'm cool on anywhere other people are. But
then as you know, it's like, well when you come
to watch a like you know, the kids have done
they've done wrestling, and they've done that pretty much. It's
pretty much that coated t ball once and like, you know,
I had to coach t ball. So like showing up
(42:10):
and you know, bringing snacks and being with all the people,
there's there's something you know, and I don't know if
that's just like that's America baby, Yeah, that's just classic stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
But yeah, to see the kids.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Moving around.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
In pacts, doing their own thing, parents checking in, looking
at each other's kids.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Like, it's just it's cool. It feels good.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
It's part of the reason why we live in a
small town.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, and that's what we talk about. It's like, man,
this is why we've moved here. Yeah, you know, because
I'm kind of the same way. Man, Like I like,
I'm not a big I like, I like people. I'm
not a huge fan of people when they group, you know,
larger groups of people, and so yeah, it'll be interesting
(42:54):
because like I don't yeah, I don't. I don't get
involved and all the all the things, you know what
I mean. Like I'm here for one reason, and that's
to like legitimately build these young athletes into into better people,
you know, and like I don't care about I don't
(43:15):
care about a lot of things that get talked that
get talked about, you know what I mean. Like it's
just I'm here for kids, you know, I'm here to
I'm here to help these these players like get better
at whatever I can help them them be with, you know,
and understanding that like my role on the team. And
I think it seems like moving forwards in the community
(43:38):
is to be just kind of that dude, that that
instills a work ethic of training into them, of discipline
and dedication and like a craftsmanship for for training, you know.
And that's what we talked about yesterday on our first day.
It was like, man, we're in the weight room, Like
there's rules in here. Like if I'm not in here,
(44:00):
I expect y'all to still follow these rules and establish
this culture in this weight room, whether you're at PE,
whether you're in here with your baseball team or whoever, Like,
this is how we do things. This is how you
conduct yourself when you're in this weight room. And I
think they like, I mean, every young man wants to
(44:21):
be challenged, and so when you challenge them with like, yo,
this is what you do, you're gonna get the ones
that immediately are gonna be like, no, fuck you, I'm out. Okay,
then you're out, you know. And that's what I told
them yesterday. I was like, man, if you don't want
to follow these rules, that's fine, go home. I'm not here.
I'm not going to beg you to stay. I'm not
going to say please be with your team. Like, if
(44:43):
you don't want to be with your team, then go like,
I'm not your dad, I'm not I'm not your teacher.
Like I'm here for this reason only if you want
to be a part of it. Cool. If not, man,
that's that's cool too. But we're going to do this,
and god, man, when you see the lights go on,
you know, for some of these boys, man, it's just
like you can't. You can't not for me, I can't
(45:08):
not turn it down, you know what I mean, Like,
I just I can't. We've got we got a couple
of young guys. One of them specifically shout out Henry Pope. Man, Like,
Henry Pope has been coming into the gym at five
thirty am. He's looking bro, He's uh, he's doing his thing. Man,
He's very dedicated. I mean five thirty am Monday through Friday.
(45:30):
Like he's he's pulling up. And you could see it
with all the with the other players during training during
the summer, like we saw during the break, you know,
you saw who was training and who wasn't. And with him, man,
it's just been really fun to to get him in
a place where like, hey, man, like you need this,
(45:56):
Like you may not know that you need this, but
we do, you know what I mean, Like the men
of this community know that you need this, Like you
need to be around as many people because he's gonna
get he's going to get the nurturing loving. All the
women on the island are going to do that for him,
you know, but you have you have a group of
(46:20):
men that are there purely just to support him, purely
to build him up and to let him know that
like yo, man, like like it's all good, you know
what I mean, Like you can you can have a
bad day, like you can be sad. Yeah, and like
and he just like man, he gets that look, you know,
and then that kind of just like trickles down because
(46:41):
there's a couple other kids on the team that that
look look towards him, you know, and it's like, man,
you get three, four or five of them up in
the gym at one time, man, and it like they're
all just kind of snowballs from there.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
And Mama too, yeah about her business. Yeah, And I
remember I remember working out with them ship I don't know,
a couple of years ago now, you know. It was
over at Extreme.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I would go to a class and it was Katie
and Henry, and you know, Henry was younger and pudgi
er like you know he was. He was always working hard,
even though it was like I can.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Tell this is not he does not want to be here.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, and he was, Yeah, he just he was pushing.
And Katie was way fitter than anyone there.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
You know, I never met her. I mean I met
her at the brewery, just you know, as a
Boom dad Pod lucky number thirteen. That's been my lucky
number since I was a kid. It was always the
number I chose for sports jerseys. And then my five
year old had his first kindergarten meeting with his teacher
today and he's number thirteen on the roster.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Wow, Yeah, Man, back at it with keV.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Back at it. Yeah, what's up man, it's it's been
It seems like it's been a little bit, but not
too long, you know, like.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
It's been a couple of weeks. Yeah. We had some
you know, schedule up and.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Downs having babies and whatnot. Oh bro IDUs into I
hate to be that guy. But the new normal, you know,
how is uh is the baby sleeping through the night?
Have you heard that one before? There, Nate, have you
heard that house the baby sleeping?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, babies don't really like to sleep,
so sometimes, you know, like they either do that all
the time or or not.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
He's pretty he's pretty consistent unless he's he's had like
a pretty sensitive stomach, as they do because they don't
have a fucking.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Microbiome or anything.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
They're like I've heard I think my wife told me
too that c section. Babies have like a different gut
bacteria too, because they don't pass through the really like
they miss a lot of critical bacteria from the mom. Yeah,
so he's had a little bit of tummy stuff, but
(01:32):
I mean he sleeps like three four hour chunks pretty good.
Like I had him last night, and I.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
When did I go to bed.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I was downstairs in the living room with him, and
I probably went to bed.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
At like twelve thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, me and the wife stay out, yes night owls.
I think about that sometimes, man. I saw, Yeah, they're slanging.
The slanging at the urchin. I'm like, man, that dude
is like doing all up at all hours and you're
at the gym at six thirty. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well that's why I haven't been there that often.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I've dropped it like three days.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
A week still. I mean, as you know, consistency is
really really the whole deal, man, it's the hardest part. Yeah,
it's been I don't know, man, it's like summer, and
so everyone everyone here on the island knows that it's summer.
It's kind of winding down. It feels like fallin. You know,
we've been we've been moving and shaking. I got the
hell I've been up too, man. I went on a
(02:31):
crazy cool hike with one of my eighteen year old sons.
Yeah yeah, we were planning it, me and me and
my boy Ben. Shout out, Ben wild. Like this dude,
other than my family, I'm just gonna gush on my
boy Bend right now. Other than my family and my
relationship and my with my family, my friendship with him
(02:51):
is like my most cherished thing in life, right. Like
he's just like the dopest dude, you know what I mean, always, always,
just like a hard working dude. Like and it's kind
of set his life up to be in the mountains,
you know what I mean. Like he's he's forty, dude,
worked at RII for like fifteen years just to get
(03:12):
a discount, you know what I mean. And like it's
literally set his life up to like be in the
mountains and backpacking and just like just bat dude. And
so I got to go and h and me and
him have been tight. We our story is kind of weird.
We we know each other, we're from the same neighborhood,
but never knew we like didn't know each other. Kind
(03:33):
of knew of one another. And then when he he
went to Wazoo with my younger brother and and those
dhos used to run cocaine back and forth from from
Seattle to Pullman and back running, running fucking jugs man
moving moving cocaine and pills. And then you know, did
that whole thing together, you know. And then just like somehow,
(03:55):
like we convened with our friendship when my older boys
were really young, and like the one vacation that we
would do the year as we would go to Fort
Flagliff State Park in Port Townsend and his parents would
let us borrow their motor home, and like I talked
to him probably once a year, and it'd be like
(04:15):
the month before Memorial that we can be like, hey, bro,
we're still good with the motorhome. Yep, whenever come get it,
you know, And it was just like, yo, these people
are just like hellaku. And then kind of like reconvene
back with COVID and like I'd always see him on Facebook,
always posting just like dopest pictures of like being up
in the mountains, and it's like I'm like married with kids,
(04:38):
not able to do. I don't want to say not
able to do anything like that. But my life wasn't
set up for me to to prioritize and enjoy things
like that, where he's just like out there fucking living
and kind of like just reorbited together. We're like, I
messaged him about a hike. No, he messaged me because
we were both members of the puge Down my Cology Society, right,
(05:03):
and he saw that and he hit me up and
then it just then we started talking like mushrooms, and
that turned into talking about psychedelics, and that turned into
talking about d MT and like he just like came
to the crib. He was like, yeah, d MT man,
I've been wanting to do that for like a minute.
I was like, we'll come to my house. You know,
I'm not going to sell you ship. I'm not. I'm
(05:24):
not that dude, but like, if you want to experience
this this trip, man, just come to the house. And
were you doing that regularly? Not regularly, but I was.
I think by that time at that point, I'd probably
done it, I don't know, four or five times, like
four or five nights, you know, like whatever experiences if
(05:47):
you will. I was microdosing and taking money and then
macro dosing on occasion pretty pretty regularly then just because
the world was going crazy. This was COVID. This was
like right kind of when I was exiting out or
working for DC. Yeah, and it was like, dude, came
to the crib, you know, did some DMT together, and
(06:09):
then it was just like, yeah, we're best friends.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Did you always have good experiences with the.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
D always Yeah, Yeah, it's scary as ship, dude, it's
it is terrifying like that I will I will, or
one time with Ben and then my homegirl shout out
Heather Balanzuel though we had just met Heather. Heather went
to the gym that Sarah and I met at and
we were like we didn't really know each other, but
we kind of orbited at the gym. But then when
(06:36):
the gym closed for COVID, we would just like bring
people to our backyard and be like, Yo, we're gonna
we're gonna train, Like if you want to come through,
come train, and and she kind of took she took
Sarah up on that. And then that was probably on
like a Tuesday or Wednesday, and like, Yo, we're going
camping this weekend. You want to come And she's like yeah, yeah, sure,
we're gonna do DMT. Okay, And so we go out
(06:59):
to the campsite out in like Stafford Creek, Tianaway Ridge
or somewhere up there, and the whole wilderness is closed
down because there's a dude out there that just murdered
two people. And so yeah, so like yeah, so like
there's all of these bolos, Like a bolo is like
if you think of like you know, an old the
western of like bolo stands for be on the lookout, right,
(07:22):
And so there are all these pictures of this like
burnt out little Mexican dude, like, and I'm looking at
that like, Okay, that guy's got a serious drug problem.
There's no way he's hiding out in the woods, right, Like,
you can't get drugs in the woods. So we're safe,
right like, and there's and Heather and Sarah are just
(07:44):
like do what what are we really going to do this?
I'm like, yeah, what why not? So we get there,
we're pat We're driving around all of these like you know,
road blockage, you know, road clothes kind of things, and
then we just like set up camp and we got
little catos there with us. Long story short, back to
the DMT we're by this river like or creek. I
(08:06):
think it was like Stafford Creek and fucking scariest thing
I've ever experienced. I mean, like, if you've never done
d MT, we've all heard about it and like kind
of the lift off and all that, but like the
magic is when your eyes are closed, right, Like when
(08:26):
your eyes are open, everything looks like what the vampires
on Twilight look like when they're in the sun. So
it's like just like diamonds and shiny. But bro, when
you when you keep your eyes closed, that's when it's
like holy holy shit, right, And so I'm like, you know,
(08:47):
on this one, hit, two, hit three, hit, and then
I can feel the like the creek like moving, like
I can feel it in my brain and it's like
rattling my brain. It's like so loud and terrifying. And
then I feel my energy like hella scared, you know,
like holy shit, man, this is like I got nothing
(09:09):
compared to that. And then all of a sudden they
just kind of like linked oh and it was due.
It was so terrifying. And my buddy, you've been after
it was like, dude, I swear when I looked at
you because I opened my eyes. I looked at you
and I saw something leaving your body, Like I saw
like some thing out of there, and it was just like, yeah, terrifying,
(09:32):
but also like satan. I don't know. I mean, it
was just no idea because it wasn't. It's not terrifying,
it's not it's not scary like a like a bad
acid trip or a bad mushroom trip, but scary because
it's like, yo, this is like you you get put
in your place of like what you really are, scary,
(09:53):
like grabbing onto a bullet train like and like and
this is and you're gone and you realize like, yo,
I'm I'm literally just like a bag of meat and water,
and like everything else around me is like you know
what I mean, like made of something but also has
like some sort of energy in it as well. And
you realize like, yo, you're not You're we're just not
(10:15):
the top of the food chain, you know, we're just
like part of the system, which is scary. You were
smoking it, you're smoking it. Yeah. So we got a
little a little pin, a little I mean it's a
little bake pin man, and like, oh yeah, I tried to.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know, back in the in the music days there
were like d MT hit the scene and like everybody
was like you gotta blast off, man, lock it into
the oneness. And like I was like, yeah, word, it
sounds good. I got some from somewhere. And like me
and the wife or me and my back then my girlfriend,
(10:51):
we were like cool, so we'll just like put it
in the weed pipe and hit it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So we we're.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Just in our living room and put it in the
weed hype and light it up and hit it, and
like immediately stuff starts pixelating and like melting, and like
all I can like the most powerful sensation was that
burnt plastic sensation and like my fear brain was just
(11:19):
telling me, like the apartments on fire, like and you're
tripping and the apartments on fire, and like everything is melting, melting.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And like whoa, whoa, whah, woah what kind of like
a you know, like a like a whippet or whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
But it was it was got the nyangangs and like
the smell of burnt plastic and ozone and like I
just never I never left that place. Yeah, and like
I would, I would look around and stuff was just
like pixelated melting, and I was.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Like this fuck, it's just not fun. This is terrible.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, And like you know, I don't even know what
time passed, not a lot of time. I like got
in the shower and tried to like focus on the
water and try to clear it out.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You know. Yeah, I kind of do when I do it.
I mean, man, I smoke joints, you know, but like
if I know that I'm going to take take a trip, like, man,
I don't I don't smoke, I don't do nothing, you
know what I mean. Like it's it really is like
kind of ritualistic, you know, like it's kind of its
kind of a process where like because you you are
(12:21):
immediately not here, Like if you open your eyes, you're here,
you know what I mean. Like we could do it
right here and be like, oh shit, man, like damn,
Maria's statue looks fucking wild, you know, Like but when
you close your eyes, it's like I'm not again not
to be like corny or like cliche, but like you
see how everything is working, you know, Like I did
(12:42):
one of them. I did a nice little experience up
on Mount Constitution one time with my boy Ben. We
went up there, We hiked up there, got to the
top cut off into this little valley, and that is
where for me, no one will ever be able to
can convinced me that the creator is not of feminine
(13:05):
origin like you. I mean you interact. I interacted with
this like really funny, really kind of witty, like you're
thinking something and then all of a sudden, like as
soon as you think it, it's like he know, you
know what I mean, Like it's super intense and great
(13:26):
and a fun time. Is energy, totally totally trickster energy.
It has to be you know, like you and again
like as as an artist and as to another artist,
like that's where art is made, you know what I mean,
Like you can't just be some lame like who's completely
black and or white and and and and and dig
(13:49):
into that right totally.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
The last In the last week, three different times, in
completely different contexts, the word trickster mischief has been brought
up in terms of what people are feeling right now
or like trying to lean into or not lean into. Yeah,
I don't know what that means. But the first ones
were my kids, you know, they were writing down you know,
(14:13):
at school, They're like, tell us about yourself, what do
you want to be? What you, and my five year
old wrote I want to be a trickster, you know,
like I want to do mischief. Yeah, And my seven
year old has said similar things recently. And then some
young kid when I was setting up at the bar
the other day popped in and was like, Hey, have
you had any like very weird, abstract like visions come
(14:36):
into your head recently? And I was like, I don't
think so, man, yeah, not that.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I can recall, yeah, elaborate and he was like, well,
I've just you know, I've just been really feeling this
strong like trickster energy vibe, like mischief energy, and I'm
trying to decipher how to like balance it and where
to apply it and you know.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
And like went on on this long, like it was
a really cool conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
He's he's a trippy kid.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I like him. And then another couple I just met
who popped in and we're like immediately like, oh, this
is this is the vibe, you know, they kind of
unprompted said the same thing, and I was like, well,
maybe there's just a frequency right now that yeah, and
if you're and if you're feeling like that's connected with
larger deity stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Oh, for I mean for me anyway, that was my experience, right,
and I think with everybody with all of it, it's
kind of personal. But then again, it's like it's interesting
when you talk to people that that have done DMT
and they've they've gotten they've gotten to that place, if
you will. It's kind of all people kind of meet
or see kind of like the same thing.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, right, I've heard that about ayahuasca.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, well ayahuasca is a is the natural d MT
where And I guess that one takes like a long time.
It'll be like four six eight hours or something like that,
and you shit your pants. You know. I don't want
to do that, you know, like I want to if
I can do it and like go to work the
(16:06):
next day, you know what I mean, like just kind
of like still kind of function for a while, Like, yeah,
that's what I want to do. Your brain produces upon
death right and burrow. Yeah. Yeah, it's wild, man, It
really is interesting. Yeah, so I gotta do that with
it with my boy Ben, and I almost brought it
up when we went up on this hike. We went
up to Baker and we did I don't know, some
(16:30):
thirty miles of like eleven thousand feet elevation, Like it
was me Ben and one of my eighteen year old
boys who now, like right now he's in Nepaul just
hiking with his buddy before he comes back and moves
to bellying him to go to college. But it was
it was so much fun to just like kind of
be the spectator on that hike because I'm like, I mean,
(16:54):
one my boy's eighteen, so like this fit. You know.
My dude, Ben's like a fucking mountain goat, you know,
like it's what he does. So he's just like cruising,
you know, I mean you know what I mean, like whatever,
He's just kind of joking and smoking, and I'm just
like fucking not having not having a good time like
at all. You know, like every step is like not fun.
(17:18):
But to watch them and to watch their interaction and
to watch their relationship develop is just like it was
so special and I just I again, man, it's one
of those moments where like I got to spend seventy
two hours with my eighteen year old son, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
He he got to see.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
And was cool because he got to see or he
looks at me as someone who's really physically capable, right,
and he was like, Dad, I thought you were. He's like,
I was expecting you to like blah blah blah. You know,
I wasn't gonna be able to keep up. And I
was like, dude, man, like, y's your turn now, you
know what I mean, Like I'm a passenger in your ride.
(18:01):
Like and so it's so cool for him to like
see that firsthand that like yo, man, like I'm I'm
more advanced or I I have this on my dad now,
you know what I mean, And like as a father,
it's like cool, man, take that energy into the world,
you know what I mean, Like now you have somewhat
(18:21):
of a somewhat of a kind of a kind of
a ritual a boyhood to manhood. Right, you getta go
up in the mountains, you gotta do hard shit, you
gotta spend time with other men and just like just talking,
you know, Like, so I'm incredibly grateful for that, and
that was Yeah, it was just wild man like. And
then again speaking like on the on the DMT, like
(18:43):
after we did all of that, we got back to
camp and I've never seen the clouds the way that
they were when we were up there, like ever, like
and I one of my couple of my friends are
they believe that the Earth is flat. And I don't
say that sparingly, Like I love these people. I love
(19:05):
that they believe these things. I've never really given that
much thought until that day. Yeah, like it looked you know,
I just got done reading the Book of Enoch.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
The Book of Enoch is a book from the Bible
that was removed. I don't know when it was removed,
but I could see why it was removed because Enoch,
who in any like theology people will will let me know, please,
he is the great grandfather of either Moses or Noah. Right,
(19:41):
pretty prominent figures in the Bible. It's got Enoch gets
brought up in what I read as essentially a spaceship,
and he's been flown around and he's looking at these tunnels.
And these tunnels are where the sun and the moon
come in and out of the winds come in and
out of these tunnels, the stars come in and out
(20:02):
of these tunnels. And it was like I'm up there
like looking at these clouds. I'm like, yo, man, Like
that's I could totally see how people think this. And
my boy Ben was like, dude, I feel like it
kind of looks like a d MT trip, you know,
and like haven't been able to get it out of
my mind. Actually texted in like two days ago and
it's like, dude, I can't get that out of my mind.
(20:24):
Like I don't know if there was like a break
in the fabric of our reality or what, but it
was like or we were just fucking tapped because we
had just hiked a whole bunch and eight smoked salmon
and dried mangos. But either way, like, yeah, what's going on,
you know? But it was, Yeah, it was just ship man.
It was it was a good time. And then yeah,
(20:46):
I worry about like.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Sometimes I worry that I'm not I don't have access
to those type of experiences because even you know, the
mushrooms and the acid I've done and in my life,
like I never really had those like big breakthrough moments,
and I can't I don't. I can never tell if
like I'm holding myself back in some way or if
(21:09):
I'm I just you know, I'm like I've never really
had that, Like, oh yeah, I've had like glimpses of it,
and I've had most most of my psychedelic trips have
have been more like therapy, like yeah, oh shit, like
here's some shit I need to look at more, or
like here's something that keeps recurring, or here's a feeling
that keeps getting brought up that's uncomfortable, and like it's
(21:33):
rarely my trip's like fun.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, totally. And that's I'm kind of the same way
except for DMT, because I don't think DMT is meant
I don't think any psychedelic is meant for like recreation,
you know, like I don't. It's not one of those
ones where like I don't think you should be taking
it when you're in high school. I don't think you should,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, no, it's just
(21:58):
not going to be a good time, you know. And
my older boys who were now eighteen, I remember when
they were going through high school and I talked super
open with him, always have like and they would call
me and talk to me about mushrooms, you know what
I mean. They would hear me and Ben be talking
about mushroom you know what I mean, like, and I
would just talk to him like, dude, you guys n man,
(22:20):
like you don't don't do it if you do, right, like,
if you do, you don't need to take four grams
telling you right now. Like if one of your friends like, yo,
let's just just you eat an eighth and I eat
an eighth, I'm like, dude, you will not have a
good time. It just won't happen, you know, Like and
(22:40):
then sure, shit, you know, they eat an eighth. They
eat an eighth and they freak out and they call me.
They're like, dad, so and so punched our mom in
the face. I was like, oh shit, uh is she okay?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But he was gonna die And I was like, oh no, man,
you guys be laughing about it in like a year,
you know, like he was just fucking curving out. But
I don't know. Yeah, it's just it's a fun one. Man.
I've been really it's been on my mind lately, like
to to kind of re explore that data. Yeah, because
(23:18):
it's just one of those ones where, like, you know,
you get sew For me, I get so caught up
in just like my life and my shit, shit, I
gotta do, you know what I mean, Like trying to
find the balance between and not I hate the word balance,
trying to find the harmony between business and family, you know,
trying to find like how it all works is it can't.
(23:39):
There cannot be a balanced, right unless unless you want
to work. You know, you're a shift, right you work,
you know, eight to four Monday through Friday or whatever,
then you can have a balance, because that's just where
you're at. But if you don't have that, you're you're
always working unless you set kind of your your parameters
(23:59):
on when you want to do X, Y and z,
And usually it becomes very easy to like prioritize that
instead of like, oh shit, yeah, remy, show me that,
you know, like show me Kato, show me this, you know, like,
but yeah, so I've been really oh totally totally man.
(24:23):
And it's like if I got to find a setting
and a time and a place like, that's the whole
that's the whole deal, you know what I mean is
finding a place where like you can just go and
and kick back. And luckily we got a lot of woods,
oh man. And that's and that's where I think I'm
gonna go. So I think I'm going to go somewhere
on the coast here. A friend of mine just told
me about some little cove near Granny's that's like a
(24:48):
single occupant cove. Yeah, like and I was like, oh, man,
like I could do that, you know what I mean,
Like sounds better than taking mushrooms and going to Eagles
on a Saturday. Done that you catch old keV in
the corner, just like talking to nobody the hermit. Yeah,
or you know, I remember one time we moved up here
(25:10):
and we're we're at False Bay and took some mushrooms
and it was like, dude, I could walk. I could
walk to the mounta right near Hey, Kato, let's walk
all the way out there, you know what I mean,
because it was like a king tide or oh yeah,
I think that's what it's called, right. I would wait
the fuck out there, man. And but yeah, yeah, so
(25:33):
maybe when my boy band comes up here again.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, I checked in. I was feeling that feeling.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
God, it must have been last summer because I had
taken like ten years off. Yeah, you know, because the
last four trips I had we're just at like that.
All of it was the same feeling of like stuck,
like the next levels there and I'm trying to break through,
and I'm trying to like dig my way through the
sun and it does work, and it just feels like frustrating.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
And uh so I took you know, I took solid
ten years off. And then last year I was feeling
feeling that poll too, and uh my family happened to
go out of town and I was like, word, I
got I got seven grams.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Of this This penis envy.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
From that, my friend's brother collected like one of the
youngest my collegists in the country or whatever, and I
was like, boom, I'm gonna set my intentions. I'm gonna
like write down what I'm asking. I'm gonna I'm gonna
be I'm gonna have music ready.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Outside first set the tongue.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I fucking diced them up, put him in a like
with a pesto and a broth with yoki, and just
like had a meal, just like leisurely comfortable.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I was like, we're going heroically, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
And then I went outside into the woods and like
immediately was like the bugs are trying to fly up
my nose.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
So I dip back inside and like, you know, I was,
you know, the paintings started doing the thing and the stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And the you know, the music, and uh, it just
basically I just ended up dying, you know, having that
that death experience of like all I can do is
know that my spirit mind is trying to leave this body.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Like so you know, like you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Lay down, you have that that feeling of like sick
and like trying to squeeze out and like tremors and
and like in my head, all I'm I'm I'm doing
is like.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You just gotta breathe and let go through this, like
you have to did this to yourself.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yeah, and like even if this is.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Death or dying, like you know, you're letting go into
what you know is like a larger thing. And but
the grief is leaving the specifics like I could go
into the larger energy and like we're all the oneness,
but like the very specific pieces of my kids and
(28:13):
my wife, you know, like and my friends, like those
are pieces that I enjoy, you know, and like I
I I was feeling grief of like you know, not
getting to experience them in those in their forms as individuals.
And of course at that point it's too late to rewind.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
So yeah, just you got to just hunker down, breathe.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And release and it just you know it basically it
felt what I imagine like dying feels like, and it you know,
I woke up the next morning like grateful to be
back with the individuals and with the pieces and also
knowing that like, Okay, the hole is out there, you know,
and it's you probably would know them as as energy pieces,
(29:00):
but like I'm glad I'm doing this right now and
I don't need to.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But it basically showed me like I don't need to
try to get out there.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I need to fucking dial in on being me with
them as me and them. And but it also helped
me my my one of our family friends, my mom's
best friend, who was like my aunt babysitter or whatever,
but as a kid, was dying of cancer. And I,
you know, like the week after I flew out and
sat with her and like very much recognized that feeling
(29:33):
that she was feeling of like know and you gotta
and like the people around her, like her partner, and
it was just you know, they were not about the
let it go, like just let go, like they were
like hold on and fight for every second. And I'm
like trying to give her like it's cool, man, just
like let go.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You know, yeah, you don't have control of this. Yeah, yeah,
you know That's what I've I've gotten with mainly from
my adult psychedelic experiences. Just like that reminder of like, yo,
are you not You're not in control? Yeah, you know,
like you can, you can try to set things up
as much as you want, but like you you were
(30:18):
just a passenger, you know, Like and for me, it's
gonna helped me knowing that of like, Okay, if I'm
just this isn't my world, if I am a part
of everyone's world, I'm just gonna be cool. I'm just
going to try to be cool and be kind, you
know what I mean. We're like before, you know, and
(30:39):
partially probably be oh yeah, I mean working working in
in prison, we'll set battle lines, you know what I mean.
You can't just like turn those off. And so I
think coming out of prison and then taking these experiences
and legitimately trying to learn from them and trying to
(31:03):
become a different person, like it all just kind of
culminates culminated into like a really positive experience, you know,
Like where I mean I would go, I would go
to work and be like, man, you guys, I don't
know what you I don't know what you should be doing.
But I know you should not be drinking liquor every night,
and maybe you should take like a little bit of
mushrooms or maybe hit the weed, you know, like, and
(31:26):
people would look at me like I was fucking insane,
insane because these are like, you know, it's the law.
You know, these are dudes that like their job is
to like keep and maintain order and structure. And it's like,
but it's like, bro, you're.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
And go with the socially prescribed.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, but it's like Joe, it's one o'clock in the
in the afternoon and like you're shaking because you haven't
had a drink, but you're talking shit to me because
I had half a joint last night. Wait a second,
I don't Yeah, yeah, I mean it's like for me, man,
you know what I mean, Like it's legal here, but yeah,
I don't know. So, yeah, it's been good man. It
(32:07):
was Yeah, shut up, DMTA. That's a whole it's a
whole rabbit hole to go down. Man. I remember remember
the first time I did it. I was with Sarah.
We're at her house, and I had no idea what
to expect. I was just like, babe, whatever, happens. Don't
let me go outside, you know, like I don't know,
you know what I mean, because you hear, you hear
(32:29):
the stories you hear. Yeah, just you don't know. I
had no idea, and I was like, yo, just don't
just don't want to go outside. And the first time
I did it, I kept my eyes open. The whole time.
I was like, ooh, this is kind of stupid. It's
not and it's like fifteen minutes, you know, like maybe.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
That's where I went wrong. Maybe I kept my eyes open.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It that's the magic, the magic. And every time I've
been I've worn I used to wear a fit bit
like a little heart rate round and air tracker. Every
time I've done DMT, I've had to take it off
like mid mid time because like I could feel it.
I could feel the energy and like the electric electricity
(33:11):
from the fitbit and like I gotta get this plan off,
you know what I mean, Like get it out of here,
you know, because it's just like it puts you in
a place of like I don't know, man, I mean,
you talk to you talk to the things that you
can't talk to regularly, you know, and you see where
(33:31):
for me is seeing where it all comes from, seeing
how it's all kind of orchestrated, you know, like and
that was the big one that I had when I
when I was up at Constitution, was seeing we were
in this little valley like off the trail, kind of
in this mossy beautiful field and lack of a better word,
(33:53):
but not a field because it's in the woods. Meadow. Yeah, meadow, Yeah,
that's it. And it was just like I could my
eyes were closed, but I could see like the energies
of where of everything around me, you know, think of
like the matrix kind of where you got all the
like this, but it wasn't all green and black. It
was just like beautiful hues of red and orange and
(34:18):
pink and yellow. And then you'd had these like didn't
look topographical totally totally, and you could have and and
then you had you had the feminine energy that was
like show, this is what are you doing over there?
You know, and it's like as soon as you as
soon as I would like have the courage if you will,
to interact with it, no, no, no, and it would like
(34:40):
pop over here, you know, and it's like, oh shit, okay,
it's kind of fun, you know, and like, oh, yeah
it was. It was a blast. It was a blast.
But yeah, so there was that. Yeah, so I gotta
spend time on the on the mountain with those dudes
and like, yeah it was, Yeah, it was a great time.
(35:01):
And then that's really been what's up man really, And
then the gym and then football team. You know, like, man,
that's uh, that's been really fun, man like being the
strength and conditioning coach for those guys, like it's pretty fun,
man like. And and the water boy and like officially
(35:22):
the water Boy. Yeah, I think they do love it.
I think I think they are understanding that there is
a need for structure, there is a need for a
way of doing things when it comes to training. Were
(35:43):
they just kind of hitting Yeah, I think so. I
mean I mean high school, Yeah, I mean five y
five's a bench deadlift squad. Do some bicyp curls, do
some lap pull downs, you do some tricep extensions, you know,
you do some sit ups, all the all the things.
And then I just kind of had them do mentally
(36:07):
hard training sessions ones where it's like, dude, the movements
are not difficult, but you just have to do it,
you know, like Bear crawl for thirty minutes, let's go,
you know, and like and I did it with them,
you know, and then we did god, we did some
grinders of bear crawls, and then we did some grind
(36:28):
like Burbie broad jump, just like things that they don't do,
you know. And then yesterday we had our first actual
time in the weight room. So yesterday was the first one.
And during the season, I'm establishing the mobility Monday. So
like Monday's kind of like film day, where like they
(36:49):
watch film with the coaches and they break them up
into like linemen skilled positions, right or you know, the
speedy guys. And so when the linemen are watching film,
I get all the speedy guys, you know, and I
get him in the weight room for like an hour.
So it's like, all right, we're gonna do mobility for
twenty minutes and then we're gonna do some sort of
(37:11):
like active recovery. Maybe later on we'll like actually do
some weightlifting, but not really, you know, I just want
to kind of help these kids understand that, like there's
rules and there's etiquette when you're training, you know, it's
not like who can lift the heaviest, like no one,
no one cares really yeah, you know. And then one
(37:34):
of the kids asked me. He's like, man, do you bench?
And I was like no. He's like really, He's like, well,
how'd you get how'd you get a chest He's like,
I don't know, man, I just I do you know
all these other things. He's like, when was the last
time you benched? I was like, I've benched one time
in the last fifteen years, straight up. And he's like,
(37:55):
what'd you bench? I was like, I did two twenty
five for three and he's like, really, but you don't bench.
I was like no, man, Like, there's so many other
things out there to do, and just being honest with them,
I was like, I don't see the value in the
bench press personally, Like I don't see when or where
you would ever need to do that, that movement in
life that would like we'd be like, oh, I'm so
(38:18):
glad that i'd bench heavy, you know, and like, but
then again, I do understand that it's fun, you know,
it's then fun to get the chesticles all swolled up,
you know what I mean, banging them out with your buddies.
But I want to really try to break that the
concept for the young athletes, you know, And right now
(38:39):
it's just with the football team. Ideally, I want it
to be for all the kids. Man, because we we
donated we as in we asn't Me, and the nonprofit
that I'm starting, the Fitness Fellowship, donated like thirty something
kettlebells a bunch of slam balls to the high school gym,
(39:00):
right just like, man, you guys need these a bunch
of different pairs. So that way, like no matter what team,
no matter what athlete or staff wants to use it,
like they're there, you know, Like I don't care about
any sort of ownership of them, you know what I mean.
Like if I can go there and I can I
can help people or show people like what I know
(39:23):
from them and they can benefit. Cool if someone else
has knowledge and experience that they can use with that
and they can help their team, awesome, you know. And
so it's been fun to kind of god like really
get swan dive into the community, you know. And I
kind of got tripped out the other day about that
of how like yeah, I mean Friday night, it's like
(39:47):
a big deal, you know what I mean, And like yeah,
and so it's like gonna be there on the field.
Will be kind of interesting because like now I just
kind of like pop into the gym. I'm at the
gym where I'm at home. You know, I'm at the gym,
I'm at the farm, or I'm at home, you know
what I mean. Like, I don't don't really mingle too much,
you know, other than with the people that I train
(40:08):
with the kids that I coach. And now it's like,
so it'll be interesting to to kind of hop up
in there and see see what it's like in a
small town for football, because I can imagine that it's great,
you know.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Like I've never been to a game, but I've heard
it's popping.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, And like we have the jamboree on Saturday, and
I'm on the field and I look up at the stands.
My family came with me, is in Bellingham. I look
up in the stands far top left, I see Sarah
Sochi and Cato and Remy Kato and Remy got their
shirts off, you know what I mean. And they're just
like fighting, hitting in each other with shirts and trying
(40:47):
to like wrap them around each other. And so I
told some of the players are like, yo, man, see
those dudes up there. They've been tail getting since six
thirty this morning. If you guys aren't going to bring
the energy, I'm gonna bring them down here, you know.
And so the idea of them running around the stadium
with other kids on a Friday night like totally safe,
(41:08):
totally just like being a kid having fun. Like yeah,
it's just like it was as warm as my heart
to know, you know what I mean. And like, and
Sarah and I talked about it because she's like, I
don't know, you know, I might be putting it on
a blast a little bit, but whatever, like I don't
really know if this is like my my thing, you know.
And I was like, oh, it's all good, Like it
(41:28):
doesn't have to be your thing, you know, but like
you got to show up, you know what I mean,
Like if our dudes want to play ball, like you
have to show up, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
She's like there is something to that that feeling of
like it may not be your thing, but it's a thing, yeah,
you know, and it could be our thing.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah it could be. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My wife is similar.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
She's like I'm cool on anywhere other people are. But
then as you know, it's like, well when you come
to watch a like you know, the kids have done
they've done wrestling, and they've done that pretty much. It's
pretty much that coated t ball once and like, you know,
I had to coach t ball. So like showing up
(42:10):
and you know, bringing snacks and being with all the people,
there's there's something you know, and I don't know if
that's just like that's America baby, Yeah, that's just classic stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
But yeah, to see the kids.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Moving around.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
In pacts, doing their own thing, parents checking in, looking
at each other's kids.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Like, it's just it's cool. It feels good.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
It's part of the reason why we live in a
small town.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yeah, and that's what we talk about. It's like, man,
this is why we've moved here. Yeah, you know, because
I'm kind of the same way. Man, Like I like,
I'm not a big I like, I like people. I'm
not a huge fan of people when they group, you know,
larger groups of people, and so yeah, it'll be interesting
(42:54):
because like I don't yeah, I don't. I don't get
involved and all the all the things, you know what
I mean. Like I'm here for one reason, and that's
to like legitimately build these young athletes into into better people,
you know, and like I don't care about I don't
(43:15):
care about a lot of things that get talked that
get talked about, you know what I mean. Like it's
just I'm here for kids, you know, I'm here to
I'm here to help these these players like get better
at whatever I can help them them be with, you know,
and understanding that like my role on the team. And
I think it seems like moving forwards in the community
(43:38):
is to be just kind of that dude, that that
instills a work ethic of training into them, of discipline
and dedication and like a craftsmanship for for training, you know.
And that's what we talked about yesterday on our first day.
It was like, man, we're in the weight room, Like
there's rules in here. Like if I'm not in here,
(44:00):
I expect y'all to still follow these rules and establish
this culture in this weight room, whether you're at PE,
whether you're in here with your baseball team or whoever, Like,
this is how we do things. This is how you
conduct yourself when you're in this weight room. And I
think they like, I mean, every young man wants to
(44:21):
be challenged, and so when you challenge them with like, yo,
this is what you do, you're gonna get the ones
that immediately are gonna be like, no, fuck you, I'm out. Okay,
then you're out, you know. And that's what I told
them yesterday. I was like, man, if you don't want
to follow these rules, that's fine, go home. I'm not here.
I'm not going to beg you to stay. I'm not
going to say please be with your team. Like, if
(44:43):
you don't want to be with your team, then go like,
I'm not your dad, I'm not I'm not your teacher.
Like I'm here for this reason only if you want
to be a part of it. Cool. If not, man,
that's that's cool too. But we're going to do this,
and god, man, when you see the lights go on,
you know, for some of these boys, man, it's just
like you can't. You can't not for me, I can't
(45:08):
not turn it down, you know what I mean, Like,
I just I can't. We've got we got a couple
of young guys. One of them specifically shout out Henry Pope. Man, Like,
Henry Pope has been coming into the gym at five
thirty am. He's looking bro, He's uh, he's doing his thing. Man,
He's very dedicated. I mean five thirty am Monday through Friday.
(45:30):
Like he's he's pulling up. And you could see it
with all the with the other players during training during
the summer, like we saw during the break, you know,
you saw who was training and who wasn't. And with him, man,
it's just been really fun to to get him in
a place where like, hey, man, like you need this,
(45:56):
Like you may not know that you need this, but
we do, you know what I mean, Like the men
of this community know that you need this, Like you
need to be around as many people because he's gonna
get he's going to get the nurturing loving. All the
women on the island are going to do that for him,
you know, but you have you have a group of
(46:20):
men that are there purely just to support him, purely
to build him up and to let him know that
like yo, man, like like it's all good, you know
what I mean, Like you can you can have a
bad day, like you can be sad. Yeah, and like
and he just like man, he gets that look, you know,
and then that kind of just like trickles down because
(46:41):
there's a couple other kids on the team that that
look look towards him, you know, and it's like, man,
you get three, four or five of them up in
the gym at one time, man, and it like they're
all just kind of snowballs from there.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
And Mama too, yeah about her business. Yeah, And I
remember I remember working out with them ship I don't know,
a couple of years ago now, you know. It was
over at Extreme.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I would go to a class and it was Katie
and Henry, and you know, Henry was younger and pudgi
er like you know he was. He was always working hard,
even though it was like I can.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Tell this is not he does not want to be here.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah, and he was, Yeah, he just he was pushing.
And Katie was way fitter than anyone there.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
You know, I never met her. I mean I met
her at the brewery, just you know, as a
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