Ep 2

Fatherhood & Fitness! How they inform each other, whats the big idea with Crossfit, what it can mean in your life...

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
H Okay Episode two, The Dad Pod Yo, Kevin Stalker,

(00:46):
Nate Finn, Waterworks Gallery.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Man, we're gonna pick up where we left off, and yeah,
kind of keep the train. You had asked me the
other day if there was any follow up things from
that episode, because we both listen to it back, and
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
My answer was just wanting to hear more about how.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Your relationship with your pops shaped your parenting and the
struggles and like, pick the things that is the hardest
for you as a dad right now and the things
that you're like, I fucking have to grind this down
and change this or else it's gonna be a problem.
And you can kind of work that in as we want.
But uh, that's just what my brain was thinking of.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, man, it was. It's kind of been, and like,
you know, I'm pretty I'm pretty organized in a sense
of my time that I in my morning, you know,
like I get up at three forty five every day,

(01:49):
I get my coffee and I write for half hour
forty five minutes every day and they've been doing it
every day for six years now. And like in that
I've kind of found a bunch of things that I've
like avoided and like have done that time of like yo,

(02:12):
how do I how do I switch this up? You know?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
So that time has been pretty meditative.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
It's changed everything in my life, Like I will not
I will do that every day until I die. Wow,
it's just it just it sucks getting up early, but
like it's one of those ones and kind of I
was talking to somebody last night at the gym about, like, yo,
remember doing a second episode. It's going to be about

(02:40):
fitness and routines. And I go pretty hard on that,
you know, Like my uh my thought on it is
if you tell me or you say to me that, like, y,
I'll do anything for my kids, but you won't get
up thirty minutes earlier then you know normally do or

(03:01):
you won't do. You know these things that like are
not fun, you know, Like I don't. I don't enjoy
getting up at three forty five in the morning, you
know what I mean? Like if there's times where I
do want to just lay in bed. But I know,
I know now I've seen the changes in my life

(03:22):
that have happened from those moments where I'm sitting there
thinking and then consciously making that decision to like yeah,
I have to stop doing this. I have to start
doing this. And if I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have
taken that time in the morning to to kind of
figure that out. It just would have been hamster Wheel continued,

(03:44):
Hamster Wheel of like, oh, I'm so stressed, I'm so work,
I've got kids and I've got a job, and say, yeah,
fuck man, everybody does you know, stop complaining. Just kind
of figure your things out and with it. My dad
it was I mean, to be honest, there's not a
lot of things that like I remember that I took

(04:06):
from him, except that he coached sports. Like that was
like his that was his thing, you know, like he
he worked and he coached. And at the time, as
a as a kid, it's just like, man, this is
you know, like no one likes their dad being their
coach or their dad being the coach of other kids.
But then when I started having kids and I started

(04:29):
coaching them, you realize, like, whoa man, this is like
a whole deal, Like this is a whole commitment that
like as a kid, I'm just unaware of, you know,
just like you're in your little world and then you
start doing it and what sorts did you play, and
I played. I played all the baseball, basketball, football, you know.

(04:50):
We mess around. Had a friend that when I went
to Shattucks Saint Mary's in Minnesota. It's the school that
were they filmed Mighty Ducks two Shout up, Marty. And
so we do like street hockey every now and then.
You know. Being in Seattle, the hydroplanes were a big
deal there in Seafair. We'd cut out little cardboard hydroplanes.

(05:13):
We put batteries on them for the little cockpit right
to weigh them down. We put them on the back
of our bikes and just race them. We had a
little track that we'd race them around. Man, we had
like a it was weird. We had like a little
man like a little a little market, like a little
lack of a better word I think everyone will know,
is like a little bodega, like in the middle of
the neighborhood, not on any sort of like main road.

(05:37):
We just had the Kenyan Street market. And it was
this Asian dude who had man cigarettes, beer, porn, candy,
you know what I mean. It was just like this
weird little market in the middle of town and we
would just like hang out there, like you know, we'd
sell cards and just like that would be like our
meetup and then we would just like figure out what

(05:58):
sports and what we would play there, you know, and
we had the hoop in front of the house, and
we were just always active always yeah, I mean because
I'm one of three brothers, you know, right in the middle.
And then we had a couple of neighbor kids that yeah,
we would just all meet up and just like reak havoc,
you know, in the neighborhood. But to bring the fitness

(06:19):
part into with my dad was I realized that a
big drive in my need to to train and to
be strong and to be physically able as my dad
had MS, like he got diagnosed with MS and and
he took that diagnosis as a as a death sentence,

(06:42):
like just my life is over. And I remember being
like seventeen and asking my dad like, you know, man,
like you're not you know, you're not dead, you know
what I mean, Like what if you think it's already over?
Like what's the point. And I remember, as as I

(07:03):
got older, realizing that like how much that just kind
of like sets you up to like be be down,
down and out you.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Know, your mindset, you mean, oh totally yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Use And then you know, in in my previous career,
they called it a fatalistic mindset right when where you've
already lost, you know, and it's like how can you
win if you can't think that it's even possible. And
so with that being with him having being diagnosed with
that mass, it's like, man, is that me? That can
happen to me? And so it really just drives me

(07:38):
to continually like want to I don't want to say
outtrain it or outwork it, because whatever's going to happen
is going to happen. But like I'm going to try
to do what I can for as long as I
can and and give give my body the ability to
do this. Right, if I just sit and not do anything,

(08:01):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be sick. Yeah, you know.
I mean it's just like you we see it. You know,
we're in our forties, man, Like the people that we know,
most of them like aren't doing too well. You know.
It's always like the ailments and there's this and there's that,
and it's like we'll do you don't do anything, Like

(08:23):
what do you expect to happen? Like if you don't
do anything, like you don't ask your body for it
to do anything, Like you can't be sharp, you know
what I mean, your brain's gonna start shutting down. I
mean there's for me, there's a there's a direct connection
between that point of physical exertion and clarity in in

(08:43):
your your mental thought process. Right, Like you when you
get deep into a training session or just doing something strenuous,
like your your brain kind of goes onto that auto
auto mode of like we don't have time to waste, right,
We're not just gonna have frivolous things popping there. And
then you know, for for some I mean I can

(09:05):
speak only for myself, but yeah, there's moments where like, yeah,
when you're training hard, like boom, I mean, something that
you've been struggling with just like comes to you. It's like,
oh shit, okay, done, I'm gonna do that. You know.
Like like the perfect example for me was like before
I moved up here, you know, like the big transition

(09:28):
of moving up here. You know, I got a I
got an offer for a job to move up here,
and I was like, oh man, I'm gonna I'm gonna
think about it. Blah blah blah, blah blah, and then
I did a ridiculously hard workout, like it was like
an hour and a half of just probably burpies and
kettlebell swings and row. We're just like a just a stupid,

(09:51):
really hard workout. And in that workout, I was like, dude,
you know what to do. Do it. Don't wait, don't wait.
And then literally like got got done training, picked up
my phone, called the HR department and was like, man,
I'd like to start the process for for my retirement.
It was like are you sure? Ye click, you know, yeah.

(10:15):
It's just one of those things where like.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Just burns away the noise, oh, all of it.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Man. And then now as a as a coach of
training people, just on Tuesday, man, we started this kettlebell
conditioning class at the across Friday in Cross with Friday
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(10:41):
But this woman came up after the after the programming
and was like, man, I didn't think of anything else there.
There was nothing else, you know, And it was just
it was just one of those ones and where were like,
it's cool to see it in other people, you know,
like that they that they're they figured it out, you

(11:03):
know what I mean, like it it just takes one
time and then you kind of get get hooked right
and like you, you find that connection that like you,
I don't know, man, Like I think I think we
need it, you know, as humans and then especially as fathers,

(11:25):
I think we need it. I mean we it's we
don't really live in a world that is conducive to
producing a strong men, you know, like we don't really
we don't live in that world anymore where, Like I mean,
we're built to work, like that's everything that we are

(11:48):
designed to do is to is to work and to
move our body. And then when we don't, and then
we start adding the food that that most of us eat,
you know what I mean, the medications that most of us,
the substances. I mean, it's just like no wonder we're
not happy, whender we're sick. Now we don't feel well,
you know, and the first thing is just to start

(12:10):
training and start start working hard doing things that you
that you don't want to do. And I mean, you know,
like today today's workout that we did wasn't gnarly. Yeah,
you know, like it was onemost. Yeah, it's not fun,
but you get done with it and you're like, okay,
all right, cool now whatever. Man, it's fifteen minutes. Yeah,
that was it, you know what I mean. And you

(12:32):
get to I don't know, you get to appreciate the
work that you do, you know, right there in the moment,
and it's like, all right, man, it's just that gut
check every day, like and so, I don't know, man,
it's just kind of I think a big part of it,
to bring it back to my dad was like learning

(12:54):
taking that from him, like from his experience of like
I don't want to be like that now if things happen,
Like I can't control that, but I can control the
way I look at it and the way that I'm
going to be in the world with that information. You know,
like I could I could well with me and complain

(13:17):
and you know, do do the easy thing, which is
to feel bad for yourself, but like no one gives
a fuck. Yeah, no one cares, you know what I mean.
Like it's everyone's got their own thing going on and
then and so it's like I don't know, man, I
just gotta I just like to train you know what
I mean, Like I just I like to I like

(13:39):
to get it on. And it's a thing that like
I don't really understand now, like when I hear when
I hear Dad say that, like I may not do
anything anything for my kids, but it's like, well yeah,
like yeah, be the example for him, you know, like

(14:01):
if you if you don't want your kid to be
it's I mean not just fitness, but like if you
don't want your kid to be the kid who's just
like on his phone or watching TV or playing video
games all the time. Like if they see you doing that, like,
they're going to do it, and if you tell them
not to do it, like everything that you stand for,

(14:21):
they're not going to believe. I mean they they will
call you on your shit man. And that's what the
greatest thing about having kids is like they you see
instantly like when you're full of shit, you know, like
they because they'll give you that look of like wait
a second, d what are you talking about? Like I

(14:42):
can't do that? But you can? Why?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
So did you did you find yourself? Was there a
moment where you looked at your dad and you were
you had that feeling of like I mean I think
every kid gets to the point especially sons and dads,
get to that point of like, oh, you're not a
mythical figure or a superhero or a big scary you
know what I mean, You're a.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Person, You're a human.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Did you have that feeling of like, oh, I'm seeing
a weakness in you that I don't know what this
Maybe you couldn't identify the feeling as like disdain or
like this is not something I respect or I want
to model myself after. Was there a moment of that
or was it just kind of a feeling of like
I just don't want to have that mindset?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
And it was I think it was when he got
diagnosed with MS, and it was seen just like yo, man,
what do you why? Yeah, you know, And I remember
I remember like Barry Bivly being being seventeen years old.
I mean like that's lamp.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Were you conscious of a feeling of like if you're
giving up on yourself, you're giving up on us.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
No, it was it was more of just like yo,
like fucking week, yeah, you know, and like not knowing,
you know, being seventeen, not knowing anything. But it was
just like, dude, how how would you expect to how
do you expect people to respond to that? You know,
like because you you know people like everybody knows someone

(16:21):
who's had a diagnosis like that. There's one of two
ways you're gonna take it, you know what I mean.
Like you see people that take it and like, man,
they're on it. You know, they change everything. They change
their diet, they change their lifestyle, they change all of
these things. And then you see the people that are
just like Matt whatever, Man, I already go one foot
in the door, you know, like this is just what
it is now. And I got to watch it from

(16:44):
a distance of just not just giving out. Yeah, you know,
like just totally. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
That's such an interesting cultural because as I mean, America
right as a young country, so culturally we kind of
have a pretty or at least we had a good
sense of what it meant to be American and what
we were founded on and all this. And I don't
mean politically or any of that ideology stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I just mean, like, you know, the.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
People that moved here were all risk takers and hard workers.
They got on a boat you had to suffer, you
know what I mean, Like you got on a fucking
boat with like hey, come to this new land and
will give you land and you can make some and
you can make something of it. Right like that, The
idea of doing that is crazy. It's like on a

(17:37):
very smaller scus, like moving to a little island, like
you can come up here and make a move, right,
there's opportunity here. You just have to do it. You
just have to leave everything that you know. Right. But
from there it was like you had people coming from
every all over the world that we're coming here to
do it, and then yeah, sorry and no.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Everything that they had in common was that culture of
was resilience, struggle, pushing yourself.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Beyond, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And I think that's where the American dream or that
hope factor comes in as far as like you have
to see something better for yourself and your family than
what you were prescribed or diagnosed or born into.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
And then you got to you gotta grind past.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
It to get into that zone of now we've created
something better and it's it's lifted us all up and
we have time is so slippery, like you know, we
kind of were in that and you alluded to this earlier.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
We're in that pendulum swing of from.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Where it was in maybe the I don't know, fifties forties,
like very patriarchal, toxic man shit like compress all your
feelings down, drink about.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
It, beat your wife about it, beat your kids about it.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Don't hug your kids, don't tell them you love.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Them, don't do any of that like we swung to,
you know, maybe eighties nineties it started. Ah, you know
that that kind of Doctor Spock revolution of like oh no,
like your kids have.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Enriching, intense emotional landscapes and.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Lives that you have an effect on, you know, and
and you figure it out as a family unit. You
work on your own self. You you know, coddle them
a lot. We got into that like participation trophy vibe, and.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
That didn't really do it. You know.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
You end up it's that classic saying everyone is, you know, uh,
hard times make strong men strong men.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Make easy times easy times make weak men, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
And I think there is a lot of truth to that,
only in this the and we can kind of zoom
back out to fitness and zoom into what. Yeah, you know,
it's it's putting yourself under stress. It's putting your muscle
fibers under stress.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
You have to tear them, you have to break them
down for them to build up stronger.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
And everyone to look at it, it's like it's just
like voluntary discomfort, right we as a as a species,
we're not meant to be comfortable, right, I mean, we're
not the way that we live now in just the
way that things are. Like I don't know, I have

(20:21):
this conversation with my with my older sons on occasion
when they when they humor me with you know, not
just laughing at me for being crazy, but it's like,
we're not meant to live like this, Like it's just
not We're not meant to be so comfortable. We're not
meant to be like so entertained, like you are meant

(20:43):
to be bored. You are meant to explore like you
are meant to go. I mean not long ago, right,
like two hundred years ago, like everybody, everybody was working
their ass off all day long, like if you wanted
to live, I mean you're working like physically sun up

(21:04):
to sundown, you know, and to not have that in
our life, like I really I feel like it takes
a mental toll on a lot of people, you know,
and you you see people that I was talking to
someone at the gym about it today. Of people that

(21:24):
don't prioritize their their fitness are the first ones to
tell you shouldn't do that mm that you're that's overtraining right,
like you need rest days, you need X, Y and Z.
And it's like, Yo, where the fuck do you get

(21:48):
off telling me what to do with fitness? Yeah, you
know what I mean? Like, yeah, like you're not like
there's nothing that you can tell me. And I'm not
the fittest dude, right, Like I I'm not fit than others,
not as fit as some. But like to tell people that, like, yo,
you don't No, man, just because you don't do it

(22:08):
doesn't mean that I can't or that I shouldn't do it,
because I know for me, I take two or three
days off in a row of just like not doing anything,
like the waters get a little disturbed up there, you know,
like I need this to help calm myself and to

(22:29):
be my best best version of myself. But like so
I can be a better partner to my wife, I
can be the best dad to my sons. Like if
I can be you know, a good friend, if I'm
not doing these things. Then I'm just I get wrapped
up and consumed do what I gotta do and what
I think I need to do, and like, man if

(22:50):
I can just check this box done, get it done
in the early morning, and then it just kind of
all sorts itself out. Man. And like I said, we
were talking, uh, we're talking at the gym the other day.
I'm just like, I didn't know until like pretty recently,
they're like not everybody is as intense and thinks about

(23:11):
training the way I do. I thought everybody was just
like about it, you know, because those those are the
people that I'm around. Those are the people that I
want to be, Like, I need to be around those
kind of people. And and opening up the gym, getting
to watch people be around like consistently hard working people

(23:34):
every single day, Like it's really hard to not like
take a little bit of that from from each from
each class, right Like each hour we got a class,
every class got a different vibe, you know what I mean.
Like these dudes are coming at five thirty then you

(23:55):
know those fire breathers, I mean they're there, They're they're
ready to go. It's five thirty in the morning, you know,
I'm I mean, six thirty a little bit of different vibe,
you know what I mean. You get a little bit
more of a get a little bit more of a
I don't want to say, a passive crowd. But that's
changing because the six thirty, you know, you guys are
you guys are calling you guys are going hard. Five

(24:17):
thirty for sure, but the six thirty, man, what's what's
cool with watching you guys is there's there's been a shift,
like there's been a shift in the entire group of
like I don't know, intensity or of just an understanding
or comfort maybe you know what I mean. Because no one,

(24:38):
no one had done CrossFit before we open this gym. Really,
you know what I mean. There's a few people like yourself.
There was another Ashley Henderson, she had she had some
experience at a gym AND's homish, but for the most part,
it was like nobody, you know. So it was like
starting from zero with everyone and now we're we're about
six months in and and you can see it, you know,

(25:01):
you can see in people like when they understand like yo,
I need this too, yeah, like I need this. And
it's not just dads. I'm talking about this is like
you know, because like you hold it down in the
six thirty, Like you're one of the two fellas that
come in there, man, you and Shadow Owen holding it down,
you know what I mean. It's like and then you've
got just this. It's such a cool thing to just have. Man,

(25:23):
you have all these different kinds of people, all different
kinds of walks of life. I mean, from twenty two
years old to fifty six year old, works retired but
now it's working on saving endangered species. And he's yeah,
I don't know, Kathleen Lewis, Yeah, yeah, but you know
what I mean. And then it's like and you have

(25:44):
just all these different people in there. But then it's
like once it's time to go, man, it's all is
game time.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Everybody's at the same starting.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Line, everybody, man. And it's the cool.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Thing about CrossFit is that we're all at the same
starting line, but we're not getting to the same and
like we we are in the general sense, like are
that the end goal is working your hardest, beating your
previous records, et cetera, et cetera, but.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like we're not doing the same.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Like Janey is a big inspiration for me, in that
class because she's she's a beast.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
She fit and she's working hard beast.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, and like I know that I'm not gonna do
the same numbers as Janay, but like if she's.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Going, then I'm going.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
I'm like all right, Like.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
You know, here, we we're gonna push it.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
And and that's what's cool because she's twenty two, yeah,
you know what I mean, Like twenty two.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
She's like probably one hundred and forty pounds, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
And you're forty. And it's like, yo, we're going, you know,
like at the end of this training cycle, we're gonna
have we're gonna both feel the same way, you know.
And and that's been a kind of a wild, wild
part about introducing CrossFit to to the Island. Right there

(27:00):
is a huge misconception of CrossFit. And I say this
as someone who who loves CrossFit but didn't do CrossFit
for five years until I opened a gym. I started
doing CrossFit again literally a week before I opened the gym.
Like there, it's not the only system, but what it

(27:22):
does do is it gives you everything that you need
in an hour, right, and then it exposes you to
to being an athlete again right, like you get a run,
jump and climb, you get to have a measure of
what you're doing, you know, and and you get to
be around people that are going to push you, like
they're going to make you better. And and that's been

(27:46):
that's been my favorite part about it, is just watching
that and just having a knowing that I have a
I have a part in your guys's journey to try
to be your best self. Right. And it's like I
now I talk about the kettlebell conditioning programming and I

(28:09):
put on Tuesday. We started it two weeks ago. It's
about Tuesday. There was like six people in there and
I had a moment where I'm watching these people do
this programming and no joke, man, I got teary eyed
in the gym, Like I'm getting emotional thinking about it
right now, because like when I moved here, I went

(28:33):
to every gym on the island and was like, Yo,
you guys need me, you know what I mean, not
in like a not in like a shitty way, but like, hey, man,
like I can help you know what I mean, Like
that I know I can do, Like I'm I can help.
And you guys don't even got to pay me, you know,
you just give me a free membership. You give my wife

(28:53):
a free membership. Let me come up in here and
I'll and I'll bang it out, man, and we'll see
what happens and then to see it, to watch these
people doing it and then come back and then be like, yeah, man,
this is awesome. You know what I mean, Like this
is really cool. It's just yeah, having a having a
little a little bit of I want to say influence,

(29:16):
but just being a part of it, man, Like it
really is just like the most humbling thing that I
can do, because this is like I.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Think it's I would call it inspiration more than like
influence is a funny term in these days, but yeah,
you're You're.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Definitely an inspiring figure out there.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And people realized it pretty quickly, and like all I
heard was like, oh, like the CrossFit, Kevin a CrossFit
and I'm like, yeah, like I'm glad that there's CrossFit.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
You know, well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Definitely come in, you know, And because I told you,
I saw Michael Long out on a walk with.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
The kids and he was like, I'm in there, five thirty.
I'm I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
You should come yeah, and I you know, I'm at
the point in my life where I'm this is a
new all. This discipline is a new journey for me,
and it's directly related to being a dad.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I knew, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Knew I was not in my top physical form for
a long time now. My whole life, I've been an
athlete just by proxy, Like I just that's what we do,
you know, like.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
School or friends or whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
And did sports in college, but did diving.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I chose diving over soccer because I was a soccer
player my whole life. And then college came and I
was like, I could probably play forum, but it's going
to be one hundred and ten degrees, you know, and
I don't want to do that. So diving like platform
like those like one like one meter regular and then
three meter high dive regular high.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Dive, and that's what the bouncy not the bouncy board.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
It just said, just just div yeah, just the normal shit.
I go for Roosevelt as a kid in high school.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I grew up in the North end right above Wedgwood Pool,
and diving board was where I got a lot of
my you know, us, I'm just throwing wild stuff. I'm
I'm doing gnarly tricks all the time. And that was
just like, oh, Nate's Nate's dope on the diving board.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Then in high school I was like, oh I could dive,
like for real, like there's coaches about it.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Yeah, so I did. I dove in high school and
it was fun.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Dove in college kind of more just to like hang
out at the pool and do stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
And that was there was no like physical requirement or
like cardio or any of that.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I wasn't swimming, So.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Basically college was like smoke a ton of weed, eat
a ton of food.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
I put on.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I've been one five my whole life, like since middle school.
I was six foot one eighty five. Uh, and then
college I got up to like two o seven two.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Eight of just fat, just food I'm just eating.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Kind of got that under control somehow, I'm not really sure.
Did CrossFit in Seattle back in the day with my wife,
who's a was an incredible athlete growing up and like
a beast, like of just a warhorse, like she loves
oh she loves moving heavyweights.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
When she like this this pregnancy, She's like, man, I
think crossfits too intense.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I'm gonna I'm gonna do my own.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Like she's been doing some walk out and or like
walking programs and squats and she's like, but one of
the things when we found it together, it's that feeling
of like, Okay, we can get the.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Excess vented off.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
We we go in first thing and just blow out
the circuitry. And so you know, we're not yelling at
the kids as much, we're not as impatient, we're not
as frustrated because we've you've released it, We've burnt ourselves
down to the ashes, and we're like, okay, I can
read build and like, you know, the first I'd say,
I've been coming for like maybe four months now, and like.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
The first couple of months was like.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
This is really a grind and it feels not good.
You know, I feel weak, I feel you know, slow,
I feel like you know what I mean, this is
not how I'm used to performing, and just having to
humble myself to be like, well, this is the point,
Like you're in here, you're doing it, You're trying, and
I'm still like I'm taking it pretty I'm like trying

(33:31):
to be pretty gentle with myself as far as like,
get up, get there, do what you can.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
You know, that's it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I've never I've never in my life woken up early
on purpose.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, I've always been.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I've always been the kid who, like I mean, my
I was always carpool, was always late because of me.
My parents had to pry me out of the bed.
My whole life, I would sleep in. But you say
as late as you.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Say an alarm because you're at the six thirty on
the regular, Ia, what what's that morning look like?

Speaker 3 (34:03):
My alarm goes off at six ten?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I wake up because we live in town right now,
I'm slightly we're trying to get back to our property,
and I'm slightly worried about how far away I'll be
from everything. But I wake up at six ' ten,
brush my teeth, get on my clothes, and then just
just get in the car. Like I don't do pre

(34:26):
workout or eat or coffee or none of that. I
just get into the gym and then afterwards I'm like, Okay,
I'll get my coffee, I'll get some stuff going, take
a shower, and like for the last probably three or
four weeks, I've hit that point of just like Man,
I feel so good.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
I feel so good, like after the workout.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
After the work even if I'm even if I'm wreckedep,
like probably an hour afterwards after I get home, I'm
like every muscle in my body is humming. I feel capable,
I feel strong, I feel energized, I feel clear minded,
you know. And that's really really been helping me with
this general stress of running businesses and fatherhood and trying

(35:11):
to hold myself accountable on those levels.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
So yeah, it's really been incredible for me.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
To get this this discipline and consistency as a new
piece of what I'm trying to do, because like I said, man,
I spent a lot of my life just kind of
like I was called lazy a lot as a kid.
Looking back with the kind of therapeutic lens that I
have now, you know, I think it's a lot of

(35:39):
it was trauma disassociation and like the fear of starting
something and failing if already my baseline is like I'm
not good enough, period, like I don't want to try. Yeah,
Like I never tried extra hard at things unless I
really loved them, you know. And being able to show

(36:00):
my kids, like, you know, my my six year old
woke up as I was getting dressed this morning and
he's like.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
What are you doing.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I was like, I'm going to gym. Man, He's like
in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I was like, I was like, baby, it's the morning,
but yeah it's not. Daddy's I gotta go. Ye when
I come back, I'll wake you up.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
And yeah we'll hang out. Yeah. I can't wait till
our kids are up in there, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
we get I feel incredibly incredibly grateful that I get
to have my son's in there with me. They hold
it down. They helped me assistant coach the evening class.
You know, they're both up in there. But and then

(36:38):
on occasion Tuesday, Thursday, Saturdays, Cato and five year old
he'll be in there with moms and mom's up in
there training and yeah we got to pull up bar
coming for the little guys. You know. I remember able
to hook that one up for the kids. And because
they want to do it, you know, like they're it man.

(37:00):
They see it, and like they want to they want
to be a part of it. They want to do
what we do and to bring it, to bring it back. Man,
Like that's why it's so important for us as as
fathers and especially fathers to sons. Man, like they I
want my sons to know that, Like, yo, this is

(37:21):
just what you do. It's not We're not the exception.
We're not. This is just what you do. This is
just how you are.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
This is how you set yourself up for success.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, and we as your dad's, believe that you deserve
that success and you have.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
To do it. You got to do it. You have
to do it, man. And like I don't know, I
don't know anything about a daughter, but then it I
mean having a daughter, it's like I can I can
imagine that. It's it's flipped where like you, you do
it because you want your daughter to see that, Hey,

(37:57):
this this is what you're This is what you want.
You want someone who is disciplined and hard working and
knows that, like, this is hard. I don't want to
do this, but a year from now it'll be worth it. Yeah,
ten years from now, it'll be worth it. Like you
prioritize your fitness at any point in your life, it

(38:20):
will help you when you're in the twilight of your life,
Like you, you have to use your body and to
be to be the one that, like my kids look
at as superhero. And then adding to the fact that

(38:41):
sometimes after some workouts and the light is just right
and I fasted a little bit, the motherfucker looks like
a superhero. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, on occasion.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
And that feels good.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
It feels good. Yeah, oh man. Like and when I know,
and we talked about it, is like I want my family,
in whatever I do and wherever I'm at, is to
make them proud, right and not to say that like, oh,

(39:13):
he's he's disciplined in his training or whatever, you know
what I mean, Like that's not necessarily make them proud.
But I know that when I got my shit on,
my wife looks at me a certain way, you know
what I mean, And that I want my wife to
look at me like that all the time, you know,
like I want her to look across the room and

(39:35):
know what she's thinking, and how like, man, that's my
that's my man right there, that is my dude. That
that is the guy that is here to help me,
to protect me, to support me, to love me. Like
that's and when I don't do that, when I don't
train in the way that I know, I should that

(39:58):
goes away, right, And like you we've all been and
seeing we're all you and I are both old enough
to have seen that transition of people who got married
in their twenties and divorced, you know what I mean,
I've seen that whole thing. And you it's gone. You
see it in relationships and marriages where it's just like

(40:19):
it's gone. People like there there's no connection there anymore.
There's no intensity, there's no passion, there's none of that there.
And and again, I feel very fortunate to to share
my passion of fitness and training with my wife, you know,
like we met at a Crossfait jam, like we met

(40:39):
doing like we met being like training partners, you know,
and now we're you know, we were got to have
those moments where like I'm coaching her at a gym
that we're that we're running, you know what I.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Mean, Just like and she's very pregnant.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
She's very pregnant. Yeah, she babies do early March, like
right in the heart of the CrossFit open, you know,
which is kind of a big deal in the CrossFit community.
I'm trying to make it a big deal on the
island in a sense of like if people are looking

(41:18):
for something to do on a Friday night, like come
watch people, you know, do a sport that you probably
have no idea like what it's really about, you know,
like it's just a fun time, and she's gonna do it,
man like she but she also and we were talking today,
I had to We were doing those handstamp push ups

(41:39):
today in today's training, and I see her grabbing a
couple a couple of ab mats to put her head
down so she could do some handstand push ups. And
I was like, oh man, you know, I don't know
if you could do that, you know, but she did it,
Like with kto I mean she was doing handstand push
ups at eight and a half months pregnant, you know. Like,

(42:01):
but she's just she's got hype up my wife a
little bit and try not to cry. But she just
has that that warrior princess in her, you know what
I mean. Like she's feminine, no doubt, but like she'll
fuck somebody up. Oh man. She she got the grit

(42:25):
you know you can do yeah, and you can. And
she's just a hard worker, you know, and so it's hard.
It's hard as her as her coach, and as her husband,
as a as her training partner, you know, to to
navigate all of that. But like because I want her
to do all of it. You know, she is the
canary in the coal mine, Like she is the example

(42:47):
for the women on the island of Like yo, you
can do these things pregnant postpartum, Like obviously you ain't
gonna be doing you know, doing the things of the
the twenty two year olds, you know what I mean,
Like the weight, the movements, all these things are going
to be different, but like you can still get that

(43:10):
stimulus that you're looking for safely. And it goes back
to that that misconception of of of CrossFit and what
people think that it is and how it's supposed to be,
you know, like we you.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Came from that kind of fad.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
It started with that pop of like trendy, you know,
and like I think people capitalized on the trend. A
lot of gyms open up a lot of people who
maybe weren't quite ready to be coaches, they were just
fit people.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
What's that pay to play? Man? If you have the money,
If you have the money, you can you can get
a CrossFit Level one certification and with that you can
open a gym, like when I went to get certified,
because I'm not a big you know, I'm not a
big certificate guy, you know, Like I yeah, I'm just

(44:05):
not big on them, man Like because if you've got
the money, you can have all the fucking certificates in
the world. But like that one, that don't mean you've
got the experience, And don't you can coach? Like not
not everybody can coach. You know, you can, you can
be a high level athlete, but like, can you articulate
what you're trying to teach someone where they understand it,

(44:28):
you know, and not to be corny with the meet
them where they're at. But like you got to hold court,
you know what I mean. Like you're the guy, you
know what I mean, Like you're the person. Like these
people are paying money too to have you show them
how to do this safely. And when all you need

(44:49):
is a big bank account to collect these certificates to
then open these gyms. Yeah, it's it can be dangerous, right,
like you're I mean, anything any sport that you do,
you know you can there's risk for injury. And you
start adding in a couple of Olympic sports and gymnastics
and weightlifting specifically, Like yeah, if you're not taking the

(45:12):
time to do these things correctly, or if you're if
your coach is more concerned about people r rex in
a movement, right And for those that don't know cross
like with CrossFit, like the RX version of a workout.

(45:33):
It's like if you watch the CrossFit games or you
see all those insanely jacked people on the internet, like
those are all professionals, Like those are those are the
NFL players of CrossFit. What I tell the people that
we are is we are Sunday, third Sunday of every

(45:53):
month plag football, you know what I mean, Like we're
rec league, Like we're just trying to move our bodies
and learn some things, maybe acquire a new skill or two.
Like we're not doing all that and when you we're
not going to do the weights prescribed for them. No,
not at all.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
But it's a good I like that you posted because
it's a good benchmark of like somebody's out there doing that.
I'm not doing that or like or maybe even in
the cool thing about CrossFit is some of the workouts
you can do it, you know if if for some reason.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Like you know, I'm great at this movement. I can
RX that.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Pull ups right like rx r XL is like a motherfucker. Man.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
I'm sure that Mike Long is in there doing some
RX weight.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Man, that dude, he comes back, Yeah, Mike Long. Man,
shout out Mike Long again in the second episode.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Get him.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
We got to get him off for sure. Man. I
posted a video. He brought the baby in there the
other day and he was doing the kettlebell conditioning, and man,
I posted this video of him looking at the little
baby and then training and it was just like, oh man,
it's too good. Man, you know it's too good. He'll
come on there and he's just a gorilla. Yeah. Like
if if we're doing deadlifts at two seventy five and

(47:09):
a bunch of them all day, Mike's got it right.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
We were firefighters together and he was. I remember one
day we had a push up competition.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I did a I did.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Push ups are hard for me. I've always been like
bench and push up. I got no chest at all.
But like watching him go, it was like, oh yeah,
this this guy's doing something else, Like this is is
a different, different thing.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
He's doing things on his beast.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, he's out there.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yeah. But that's where you know, because some at some
point we will have athletes at our gym that are
doing r REX weights right.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Like it's I can shout out.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I mean I feel like those morning guys, Like I
feel like Brady moves weight.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Brady, Yeah, Brady, Brady moves weight. I mean there's a
bunch of guys mass Sawyer, shout out Sawyer. Anderson. Man,
he's not he's not on Instagram. He's not going to
listen to this. But like that dude is a technician, right,
Like I've never met someone who wants to learn a
movement more. I mean, like he obsesses over him and

(48:18):
as a coach and as a training partner, it's great.
It seems like.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
One of those like scientist type brands who applies it
to fitness and like ends up just being Jack because
he's so obsessively detailed on the he does.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
He does the mobility, I mean, his mobility is on point,
is hydrations on point, his supplements around point. Like that dude,
in a year, he'll be our Rex way, you know
what I mean. Like that's and that's where the consistency
comes in. And because a lot of it with even
like the big fellows that are moving away. Like the
thing that is being developed now is the endurance, the

(49:00):
muscular endurance. Right, Like a bunch of people in the
gym can deadlift two twenty five for five, but can
you do two twenty five for ten and then do
ten burpies and then do ten deadlifts at two twenty
five and do that ten times? Right? Yeah, in fifteen minutes. Yeah,

(49:23):
you know what I mean. And that's where that's where
as a coach it kind of comes in of like, yeah,
I mean you probably could do that, but you shouldn't,
right because eventually you're I mean, I'll go go off
on the movements. But like with the deadlift specifically, like
everybody loves deadlifting because it is the most weight that

(49:47):
someone can move just pure strength. Like you will not
be able to lift and move more weight than a deadlift,
so people love them. You start adding in that fatig
tigue factor of everything else and that two twenty five
that you can move really well, it starts taking its toll, right,

(50:12):
And it's one of those again, it's one of those
movements that like if you're not if you're not smart
with it, and you're not sound in your technique like
you're you're gonna get hurt, man, Like, It's just it's
it's inevitable, I say, forms the first thing to go
and you're exhausted, oh for sure. And that's where I
try to That's where I try to help people understand

(50:40):
that concept of CrossFit. Like they may under they may
have like a rudimentary understanding of a movement like oh,
I know what an am rap is, I know what
these are. But just because you have a little understanding
of it doesn't doesn't mean that you got it offured out.
And I don't have it all figured out, you know.

(51:02):
I've just I've just obsessed over training for fifteen years,
like it's been. It's just I that is my I
love it, all of it, you know, I love all
sorts of times, you know what I mean. Like, it's
just I like the discipline that that it has, even

(51:23):
the dudes that the wreck man that are going there
and the power lifters and the body builders like yo, man,
like I see you every day, you know, Like, hats
off to you, man. The discipline that it takes to
do that is crazy, right to go in there and
just put your headphones on and and hopefully you know,

(51:43):
be following a programming, right, like, because a lot of them,
the dudes that are serious, Like you can tell the
ones that follow a programming, and then you can tell
the people that are just in there doing the things
that they like, right or the things that they know
develop up easier for them. Yeah, And so it's been

(52:03):
because I hadn't been in a I haven't been in
a big gym, if you will, like a non CrossFit
type gym in a long time. And so it was
fun to go back up and they're like, oh, Okay, it's
still all the same. You know, it's still you got
the high school kids still still swarming around the bench,
still swarming around the cable flies, you know what I mean.

(52:25):
Like it's just it's just what they do, man. And
then trying to be open enough. But then also like
kind of kind of been a fine line of like yo, man,
like that's cute and all you know what you're doing
over there, Like it's cute, but like she come over

(52:46):
and train, come train, you know what I mean. Like
working out's cool, like it's fun, you know, but like
let's like train, you know what I mean. Especially still
like the guys that are like just getting out of
high school. We're like, what's if you want to play
a sport like man CrossFit? It's it's a sport, you know,
like it's it really is, like not for everybody, Not

(53:06):
everybody looks at it as a sport. And that's what'll
be interesting about the open coming up. It's like people
are going to see that sport side of CrossFit, right
where this is kind of why we train the way
that we train, right, because it has that that standard

(53:27):
that that comes down from on high. Right, they put
the workouts out. All the gyms around the world do it.
You've got x amount of time to you know, it's
Thursday at three pm to Monday at something, to get
your scores in. They're all judged, you know what I mean.
Like at our gym, it doesn't really it doesn't really

(53:49):
matter because we're not sending anyone to the games yet, right,
But like if people are, that's where the judging really
comes in comes in place, because there are people, sadly,
sadly to admit, even at our gym, there are people
that that don't do all of their reps right, like
it says to do twelve tens good on this round,

(54:12):
you know, because they want to cut time right, like,
they want to get done. They want to they want
to have their place on the on the leader board,
or just even just to themselves, like I want to
get done before so and so and so in the
in the open, it's all judged. You have. You have
someone there counting your reps, you know, because it's a

(54:34):
it's a sport man, it's serious business. Like some people,
this is what they do for a job, you know.
And and we don't do that, you know, We're just
gonna have a good time and and uh and party
at the wreck.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I like.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I like that idea of making it a place people
can come and spend some time, you know, not everything
has to be let's go out and get drunk in town,
you know, Like, let's do something that's based on fitness
and health these people. I'm gonna sign up for it
and I'm set it. I'm trying to scrape up some scratch.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
To do the judging thing. Oh yeah, I think that'll
be fun.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I'm like, maybe I need to add some sort of
element to it for myself, Like I'm gonna I'm gonna
wear my wife's workout pants. And try to get some
of the fellas to do it, you know, or something
some extra thing that'll you know, my kids will come
and you.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Know, it really is a good time man, because it's
it's just a time where and again be new to
a small community. Like everybody knows all these people yep,
you know, like everybody knows.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
And it's cool to see him.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Yeah, see him as an athlete, you know what I mean,
Like Ken McCutchen, man, like this dude, he he's a rabbit.
I mean he's forty I don't know, forty five, but
like you see the athlete, right, Like you get to
see people be not you know, can from work or

(56:09):
can from church, you know what I mean, Like you
get to see these people like yo, he's like moving.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Man.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I was.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I was driving by a cavalry cavalry church the other
day and I saw him out in the parking lot
and he was standing tall.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I was like, I was like, man, four months ago,
like you did not look the same, you know.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
Oh, I had a cat called him one time in
front of the cavalry. Man we were driving by, he
was walking with his wife. Man rolled by, rolled down
the window and.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Just like yeah, yeah, like, man, good for you.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
I'm with my wife and she's like, ah, you're so dumb.
What what are you doing.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
It's like, bro, he's good.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
One of those guys man that like I met that dude.
He was uh he was sitting on the back of
an excavator picking up these shipping containers at this farm
that I'm at and during the summertime. It was like
literally I think it was a week before opening the
gym and uh, and we're just we're talking, man, We're
talking this talking dad stuff talking, you know, being fitness

(57:06):
and this and that and being someone who trains a
lot and being a dad talking to other dads. Sometimes
sometimes men get weird, you know, like they they it
because it immediately becomes aware to them what they're not doing.
So it's like this weird kind of like yeah, it
can be a weird vibe, you know. And Ken was

(57:30):
just like, oh, you know, I gotta I gotta come
in there, man. You know, I did cross it like
fourteen years ago in California. And I'm thinking, all right, dude,
you know how many how many times has someone told me, oh, man,
I'm we'll come train, We're gonna come through blah blah
blah blah blah, and and the dude came through. Dude
came through like I think day two, he came through

(57:51):
at five thirty in the morning and has missed one
day maybe two, maybe maybe two days of recent because
uh yeah, they're doing some weird kids. Basketball practice is
like six thirty in the morning or something like that Friday.
So really it really jacks up as training time. But
you know, it's just like you get to see dudes
like that, and it's like, man, if I don't want

(58:12):
to train, how do I not? How do I not train?
Knowing that like all of these people that I see
every single morning that come in and like they just
let it go. They just I mean, it's it's consistencies
the biggest element in it. And so when you get
to see it like throughout the classes, right, like when

(58:36):
you go as an athlete, you go to your class
and you see kind of the same people. Like there's
people like when you come into the six thirty, you
know that you're gonna see at least one like you're
gonna see Jenne in there. That's that's you know what
I mean, there's a big influx of people that come
three or four times a week, but you know, you

(58:57):
go up in there six thirty Jenay's gonna be a
been there. Like that's that's what it is. Where watching
all the classes, it's like that for all of them.
Like there's people. It's just like so even when there's
days when like I'm not trying to train, you know
what I mean, Like when I'm done coaching for the morning,
it's like, fuck, dude, just do what's on the board.

(59:19):
And I got to tell myself that, man, I literally
I have to have those moments, right, dude, just do
what's on the board. Go over there and do what's
on the board. Do what's on the board. And like
and before man, I was talking with the cole who
started he started training with us about a month ago.
And he's a nut. He's an athlete, you know what
I mean. He's a freak like us. He wants to
he wants to train, right, And we were talking about

(59:42):
here shout out Cole. We were talking about I think
it was yesterday, yesterday or today. I forgot what was
ha lost my train of thought.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
You said, you get up and do what's on the
board sometimes.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Oh yeah, we're just talking about how like you gotta
there's always going to be that voice of not wanting
to train. Don't matter who you are, It does not
matter who you are and how long you've been doing it.
Like it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
That's that Joe Rogan right, Conquer your inner bitch. It
is something to that voice.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
You have to man, I think of and I was
so cold about it? Man, is I so I practice stoicism.
That's like I wake up every morning and I try
to embody this philosophy and Marcus Abilius obviously everyone knows
of Marcus Abilius and the biggest one man. And I

(01:00:42):
hear it in my head when I'm in my bed,
my alarm clock goes off. I don't want to get up.
I hear Marcus Ablius, Like is this what you're built for?
Is this what you were built to do? To lay
under the covers? And it's like nope, I'm not you

(01:01:02):
know what I mean? And it's just like it happens,
you know, like it doesn't matter how much you you
want to do it, Like there's times where you don't
want to do it, and finding people and being around
people that keep those fires lit? Is it really is?

(01:01:23):
It's a special thing, you know, and finding a group
of people here on the island that also want to
do it, like it just it makes the other elements
of life a little bit easier, you know, because we
get to meet people and talk with people that like
are all going through the same thing. Man. And like

(01:01:45):
most of the people, most of the men at our gym,
our dads, we're all older cats. Man. We got a
few a few young guys that that will probably have
kids soon, you know what I mean, like freshly married,
and we got a few like young young cats, but
like most of us are like older guys, you know.
And it's just for me as one of those older guys,

(01:02:10):
like I just I love it, man. I love seeing
everybody in there every day and knowing that like we're
going to be in here, our kids are going to
be in here, like we're just like it really, yeah,
just it really is a special a special place in
a special environment to be in that that not everyone

(01:02:31):
gets to gets to enjoy, you know, because like if
you go up in the gym with your your headphones
and you're just gonna run through your own workout, like
you don't get that, like you don't get that bond
that comes from physically working through something challenging with people,
you know, like call it trauma, bonding, call it whatever you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Want, but like they're building community.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Yeah, it's something when like you're on there with with
people and it's like, yo, this sucks. It sucks for
you too. I know it sucks, but you're doing it
and so I'm gonna do it. And then I'm you know,
and then knowing your spot in that, you know what
I mean, knowing that like you know, you're you have
to be the one that that is pushing people, right,

(01:03:18):
Like even if it's just for you, like you to
bring it back to our kids, Like we're the ones
that are carrying the torch for our kids, Like we
want to be the ones that they that they see
and that they follow, right, And it's and if all
it takes is like two, I don't know, go to
the gym, you know, Like it sounds so simple, make

(01:03:41):
it fun. Yeah, it sounds so simple to do. But then.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, it just it's the hard. It's it's not it's
it sounds simple because it in theory, it is simple.
In practice, there's so many layers, you know, Like that
that voice for me of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Like don't you know, just be comfortable. Voice is loud.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah, it is hard for me every time, but like
you know, seeing the like I didn't come yesterday because
I was like, I think I'm getting sick, Like I
didn't sleep good. I'm gonna just take this extra couple
hours to sleep instead of sweating.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
It out, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
And you know, I look at the posts, i look
at the video of the six thirty class, I'm like, man,
I feel I feel that not jealousy, but that feeling
of like I missed out on the doing those movements
and pushing it with Michelle and Jena and the homies,
and like, you know, like I was like, man, so,
so your your consistency for building that community and being

(01:04:45):
that inspiration is is appreciated. And uh you know, it's
like I'm gonna, I'm gonna wrap us up on the
I've been trying to think of the gym as the
altar to the day, and you have to go and
leave a piece of yourself, you know, to get the
results you want. And uh, so, thank you for holding
space for that. It's really changed my life for sure.

(01:05:06):
And uh I think we got a lot of good threads.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
To pick up on and yeah, man, well it's my privilege.
It's a it's a privilege of mine. Man, I am,
it really is. I just feel grateful to be a
part of everyone's journey, you know what I mean. It's
just really yeah, it's it's a good time. Oh yeah, yeah,
baby on that one. Be the light.