February 27, 2025 • 62 mins
Kevin & Nate dive into the question of Why, When, & How in regards to fitness as a dad. Moments that solidify the Why, the discipline of the When & How. Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Boom Dad Pod episode six.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think it's five. I think it's five.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I was we were both adamantly sure that the last
one was five, and then I looked at the list
and was like, no, ship, that's that's four. You know,
we lied, We lied to you guys on the last five. Whatever. Yeah,
man today, big Man getting back into fitness or starting
(00:33):
your fitness journey after fatherhood and how to maintain that
or how do we even start that?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Like how do you.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Create time in a schedule that seldom feels like there's
time to do anything other than work full children's laundry, dishes,
you know, all of that. And Yeah, it's been It's
kind of cool because this dot has been coming up
a lot lately with the open Yeah, with the with
(01:09):
the open that we got tomorrow of realizing that majority
of the men at our gym our fathers.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Older fathers.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know, that came from not really training, you know,
or or training in a sense that it's negotiable, you know,
like if I have time, if I can do this,
if I can do that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And it's been fun to see people.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Buy into the idea that it's not just about them,
you know, like it's bigger than them, you know, Like
I'm sure you feel it when you when you miss
your six thirty class. It's like, man, I wonder what
someone says doing you know what I mean, I wonder
what time or wait or I just I mean, I
(02:09):
wonder what they were doing, you know, because it's it's
so much more than that, and which rolls back into
how important it is to just be something other, like
to be yourself and to not just have that identity
of being dad, you know, And it's I don't want
to say it's easy, but it becomes.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Easier the more that you do it and the more
that you just.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Make sure that you do that, you know, like understand
that this is this is good for me and and
by proxy it's good for my family and it's good
for my wife.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Were you training when you were had your first kids?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah? Yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I was training, But I wasn't training. No, I wasn't training.
I was working out. Yeah, you know, I was working
out garage.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Would you tell us the difference of that for you,
because you I've heard you say this before, the.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Difference between working out and training.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, the biggest difference difference that I that I feel
is between working out and training is working out you're just.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Training.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You are training for something, right, you were training for
a sport or an activity or for me. I look
at it as I'm just training for life, like I
want to no matter what happens, Like I want to
be an asset.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't want to be part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And when you're working out, a lot of the times
you see people in the gym and they're just walking,
not walking around, but they're aimlessly do a set, check
their phone, sit down, do a set.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Right, But there's no there's no program, there's.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No like progressively programmed itinerary to follow, where with training
you you accept the fact that you don't know everything,
and that you're going to allow someone that knows even.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
A little bit more than you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Right, and even that's not even having like a coach, right,
Like you can buy programming online and follow programming as
an individual, but someone else is writing the programming, right,
so that person is spending time and energy on making
this programming. Where if it's up to most people myself
(04:43):
included when I started, before I started training, when I
was just working out, I would it was all negotiable, right,
There was no like I'm doing this. It was like
I had my standard. Monday was chess day, right, then
it would be legs, which was was not legs right,
like you just didn't do them right, or you do
(05:06):
them on a Smith machine, or you do a few caphraises,
you do a couple of leg extensions, you know what
I mean, but never like adamantly like yo, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Crush the legs. I need to do the legs, and you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Just kind of like float around, you know, and became
like if I would if I did one day, if
I worked out one day, it would be chess day,
like whether it was Monday or if I missed Monday,
Tuesday Wednesday, and I can get to the gym on Thursday.
Thursday is chest right, Where when you have a programming
(05:40):
and a goal that you're working towards, it becomes non negotiable,
like real quick, right, because you're you're held accountable like
not to yourself, but like to this programming right and again,
whether it's in a class setting or a coach, like,
it's a programming. So for those get a programming. If
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you don't want to come to class, cool, follow a
programming or else As a guy, who's been training five
to six days.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
A week or.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
A while now, right, probably I think seventeen eighteen years. Like,
programming helps, and it will keep you honest, it will
keep you coming back to the gym and keep you
training for whatever you're trying to do, you know, and
to bring it back to being a father, Like that's
what I'm training for. That's what we train for, you know,
is I want to train for my children to not
(06:37):
only have a delusion that I'm a superhero, but do
maybe try to look the part on occasion, right, you
know what I mean, And training to be the object
of desire for my wife.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't training then. I was
just working out. I was just We had a gym
at the prison that used to be an old Chicken coop, right,
I mean it was like Rocky Bubboa stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean there was no heat, there was no air.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I mean, it was just like but it was awesome,
you know, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We'd go in there and it would be the same.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I worked with a it was called a quick reaction team, right.
We were the guys that would respond if things got
squarely in the prison and the coolest thing was all
before shift, we.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Would all be at the gym, all of.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Us would be at the gym, you know, and we
would just bullshit and lift weights and then go to
work and just be this little group, this tight knit
group of guys that like, really.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We really bonded.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Not necessarily in the gym, right, but it was really
nice to know that the guys that I was working with,
if something happened like these guys, these guys are taking
measures to give themselves a better opportunity to do their
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job correctly and to not be part of that problem,
you know, of like you respond to something and it's
like you're out of breath or you can't mentally check
the box of just like, yo, this is hard, this
is challenging.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Throw your back out trying?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh man, totally And that's like it's funny, man. I
was just I just left the gym and was talking
to one of our athletes, Brandy, about you know, with
the open.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It was like, no, how did you get into it?
What did you? How did you get into CrossFit? You know?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And it was like I thought CrossFit was stupid, you know,
I thought all the things that everyone thinks of CrossFit,
just like many what are they doing, man, It's like
they're doing weird pull ups and they just do cardio
all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Because I was a I was a meathead. Man. It
was it was.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It was bench in climb, branch flies rows, I mean
all the that working out strength five by fives like that.
That was it, man, That was all that there was
to it. And then I got into a physical altercation
at work with It was in the big yard and
there was man, there was probably.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It was during movement, so there was probably one hundred
and fifty dudes in the yard another one hundred trying
to get in through this turnstyle, right, and it was
the day.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It was bus day. Man, it was chain day.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So like you know that on chain day, people are
gonna people are going to go to SEG. Right, Like
you get out the bus. What kind of paperwork do
you got? Good paperwork? Bad paperwork? Bad paperwork meaning you're
a child molester, you're a sex offender, like you beat
up women.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like guys don't like that.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So if you have bad paper work, a lot of
guys will either ask to go to SEG or not.
And we we knew that something was gonna happen because
we knew that this guy was coming.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
In and he was to drop out for the which
is a.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Northern Mexican gang that that really hold court and they
they they do their thing. And at that time it
was it was on site for then and Ernos and yeah, long.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Story short back to training.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He we knew he was gonna go to seg Like
we knew that he made a choice. The the inmate
made a choice to go into the yard then to
stay in his cell, because he knew if he stayed
in his cell, there's no cameras in there, like visiting. Well,
it's totally like real talk, like people are just gonna
go up in there, give him the business, walk out
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and no one knows nothing where if you go out
into the yard. I mean the cops are around cameras,
you know what I mean, Like it's everywhere. And yeah,
so I these guys were, these guys were fighting, and
I it's funny, man, I remember from that moment I
had a ship had to go, man, and it was
(11:09):
movement time, so he can't can't just leave when the
breaks none right, And I remember just thinking the whole time,
like man, I got shit I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And then I saw this.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I saw a ceo up on the catwalk just start instant,
like you could see it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
His body language changed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
He fucking popped smoke and he started like walking in
a direction to go down the stairs to get into
the yard.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I look over into the yard.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And it's like on, yeah, like it's on right there
by the gate, right by the the tables, and there
was four uh gosh, three three to five actively engaged
in combat. And my thought process on it was get
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in there, stop it before it becomes something, because like
if you have guys that are usually combative, like that's
one thing, but like if they teeter off and like
run into a table of another another group of guys,
then you that three to five could really pop off
into like ten eleven thirty real quick, you know. And yeah,
(12:19):
so I I utilized a in my report, I called
it a tactical power bomb. It was great, you know,
And and you just racked up my shoulder bad, you know.
I had to get surgery. And from that moment it
was like, man, but I'm strong, I work out.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You know what if I can't do this, so I
can't really.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Do you grab them around the waist and yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So they were, Yeah, so they were.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
They were engaged, and I remember creeping, not creeping, but
I remember kind of sorting through because the bigger one
for that is like crowd control, right, like you're sorting yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean to get in there.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I had to get through I don't know eighty dudes, right,
And that alone is one of those moments where it's like,
if you think about it for for a little bit,
like you're not.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Going to do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's like I got to get in here, boom boom,
then get into the turnstyle, get in there. And I
remember thinking while I was coming up to these guys
coming up from behind them, I just remember thinking to myself, like,
don't spray them. Nobody spray them, right, because I didn't
want to deal with the secondhand exposure from the pepper spray.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So I remember thinking like.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Nobody SPRAMU spram And then just kind of got up
behind them, waited for them to separate, grab a dude
from the waist kind of and just kind of like
Judo threw them over the shoulder, got on the ground,
kind of hemmed him up, held him there and I
look up and the seven CEOs that were there staring
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at me while I'm on the ground with this offender,
you know, and I'm yelling crowd control, you know, people
people hands like look at everybody else, man, Like I
got this guy like sort out the other hundred that
are watching.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
That, like most likely think that it is excessive force.
What I just did, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And yeah, so no one sprayed him, and it was
it was great.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But that was my moment after that of like I've
got to change.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I gotta change the way I work out, and I
gotta change. I gotta I gotta do something else.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And was it a moment of like that that thing
of functional strength, Like if.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I can't use my body with the weight of someone
else's body on me and not get injured by just
a you know, a violent action, like I should be
doing something else, Like I should be able to do
that and not get injured against circumstances of like how
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you fall and this and that like whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But like it totally changed everything.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
And then I was dating this woman who was doing
CrossFit after and I thought I was fit, you know
what I mean, Like I did some rehabs and I
was you know, I was back strong and doing my
incline presses and you know, all all the things. And
so I went into a gym with her and got
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fucking smoked by everyone. Every single person in there cooked me,
Like I remember box jumps being the first, Like I
remember that movement from my first time and being deathly
afraid of jumping, like, man, I don't know, I can't jump.
I don't know when the last time. I Like, this
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is scary, you know. And then after that, after being
humbled in that, in that light of like yo, man,
like there's levels to all of this, you know, like Okay, cool,
you can bench two twenty five a whole bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Great? Can you bench one point fifteen thirty times?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You know, and then do ten calories on the road,
you know what I mean? Like just have that full
circle of fitness. And I was hooked. I was absolutely
like this is this is what I'm doing, you know,
like this there's no coming back from it for me,
Like it just became I don't know, it became my thing,
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you know, like all aspects of it, you know, the community.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Part of it, the training part of it, the way.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You could see progress like every week, every month, right,
because like you could do I don't know, five box
jumps before having to like catch your breath, you know
what I mean. And then it's like you come back
a month later and it's like, oh man, I can
do ten like all day long. You know, wall balls,
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same thing, Like yeah, dude, Like those are the ones
where like wall balls will make you a coward. They
will remind you like yo, this is fourteen pounds or
twenty pounds, but like yeah, get your shit together, you know.
And so it was like you have that measure that again,
it goes back to just training, you know where like
with when you're when you're working out, you don't have
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that right and like you hear me say it at
the gym of like you know these are championship rounds,
right when you get into rounds five, six, seven, like
hard is round three, right, like most people are done
at round three. You're like okay, I'm i'm I'm I'm
adamantly very yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I feel done.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, And then it's like yeah, well you're halfway there. Yeah,
you know, and that's where deep water yeah man, And
you get to see that and you get to see
it in yourself that like oh man, round three, my
time was X but I was done?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
How did round five? How did I get faster? Know?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
How was that round faster than this other round where
I was just like done, you know, And you get
to find that those extra gears in you, and then
it becomes for me, It makes it, It has made
it very glaring to myself that like I can check
that box of like, Okay, this is not going to
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be fun in a sense that like it's going to
be challenging, but then that is kind of the fun.
And then when you get to train alongside people that
are also thinking like that, and you get to put
your training side by side up against someone else's training.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Man, it just it's it's why people do it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's why people love CrossFit, or that's why they love
high rocks, you know what I mean, That's why they
love Olympic weightlifting because there's a measure, there's something that
like your training to meet this or it's just going
to be obvious that like you're not you're not training right,
like you're going into the gym and just kind of
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like doing the things that you want to do or
the things that like.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Develop easy for you.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And then yeah, so I've been training for pretty much
all of my children's lives, right, going through seasons of it,
and then it's it's now. It's just it's been at
a point where it's just what it's just what it is,
you know, Like did.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You have a moment of pre or post first kids
or whatever. Did you have the moment of like, oh,
I kind of conceptualized the idea of training for fatherhood
or being fit to show my kids or like do
the literal things like if I had to pick both
my kids up, and.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I still do that, you know, I still do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Still, It's like I want to be like I can.
I know I could pick my kids up and I
could run five miles with them, Like I know that,
And I always think of that, like especially during like
COVID time when like gyms were closed and there's lots
of training outside where it's like yeah, you know, and
again it was that vibe, right, it was that like
the world's ending vibe.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And it's like I'm gonna fucking carry my kids twenty miles.
No one's gonna be able to catch us, dude, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Like it's it's kind of always like that, which I like, yeah,
I like to be able to get into my imagination
like that and just like play around and use my
body as that tool to like be able to do this.
And it's been it's been fun to see the shift
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in the training now, even from like I don't know,
like before COVID of like total CrossFit, you know, like
before COVID, I was like, well, a little bit before COVID,
I changed to a kettle bill gym, shadowed him, shadow
Zach Filer. But it was like now, it's just like
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it's it's just totally different, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Still a mainstay.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
It is a it is a pillar in which I've
built my life and one that I wish that one
that my hope is my family is built on. Right,
Like I don't want to push my little guys Cato
and Remy to do it or even be there like
I did with my older my older sons, because my
older sons, I was a divorced dad. So it's like, yo,
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we're at the gym. You're at the gym, you know
what I mean. We had the we were doing the
split split time, like they would be a week with
their mom and they'd be a week with me, all
in the same neighborhood, so it was like awesome, but
it was like, Yo, we're we're at the gym, Like
we are at the gym at four o'clock Monday through Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Saturday morning, we're.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
At the gym at eight am, like, and you guys
are there, Like that's just kind of the deal. And
now the idea of getting them into the gym, they're
just like, oh, Dad, that's fucking dumb. I'm not doing that,
you know, like because it was forced on them. Yeah,
but what has been cool is to see that side,
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the strength training side, might be in a downward you know,
on a down season right now, a valley, right but
they just went and did a twenty five mile hike
out in the peninsula, you know what I mean, A
seniors in high school with two buddies. You know, they
just went and bopped around the peninsula for the long weekend.
And it's like, yeah, you know what I mean, part
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of the deal, that's fitness, you know. But I don't know,
it's never really I've always kind of been and like,
I mean, we've talked about it. Man, It's like I
wasn't very self aware of that like most people don't
think of fitness the way I do. I thought everybody
did up until probably like a year ago. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like, no joke, man, Like I
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thought everybody everybody thought about it the way I did, right,
even to people that train like frequently. And so it's
been kind of it's been kind of a fun one
to to sort unpacking on why that is, and you
know what I mean of like, well, fucking what what
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does make you do this shit every day? You know,
like especially when gyms were closed and it was like
five am wake up calls at the gym at the
farm every day, right, just a dark gym, nice gym,
dark gym, no heat, you know what I mean. And
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when it's like there's a mirror in there and you're
just staring at myself.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
In the mirror, like, yeah, what the fuck are you
doing here? Man?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like it's five to fifteen in the morning, Like you're
by yourself, where's your you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And just kind of finding that like that's just part
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, you know, you got to latch onto that why,
and you've got to really believe it. Yeah, if your
why is your family and your kids, then it's pretty
easy to believe.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, that's and that's what it was, man, And that's
kind of to go back to, like doing this for
my kids, you know, and for my wife, because that's
what it is, especially as a dad, Like that's what
the whole deal is, you know, Like everything that we
do is for them, you know, in one way or
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the other. And even even the time that we take
to train with ourselves, like it's for our kids, it's
for our wife, it's for our family, Like we want
to be around for as long as we can, and
everybody knows that, Like if you prioritize health and fitness
at any point in your life, you are giving yourself
a better opportunity to to have quality years in your
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twilight where you're not at the hospital all the time
and missing out and causing added stress to your children
and grandchildren. Like I want to be able to run,
jump and climb with my grandkids, you know, and I
have to do that now. Which has been fun on
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this side to meet the younger dads or even the
guys that don't even have kids yet, but they're just
like newly married that are serious about this training or
just serious about training, right and not just not CrossFit
training right, but just training right, like for triathlons or
for cycling.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Cycling is a big one here on the island.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
People people get on those bikes and they rip, and
talking to them about the inevitable pitfalls that come with
prioritizing your fitness, even with your family, even with your spouse,
you know, because like there's gonna be a point that
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you have that that you have to set a boundary,
even with your spouse, you know, like, man, I have
to do this, Like I know that you don't want
me to do this. I know that there's these other
things that you feel that I've got to do.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But if I don't do this, I know that I'm not.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I know that this helps me be the best partner, husband,
father that I can be because when I don't do this,
the waters up upstairs get get rough. Yeah, and it
really and you have to set that boundary, like with
with your partner and with with your family and the
people that don't agree with the way that you that
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you that you train, or the level of you train
or the frequency in which you train, right, because I'm
sure you you're hearing it now from people like yeah,
you go every day man, Like that's have you heard
of overtraining?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know, people were like, oh, you're that You're a
crossbit guy.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now yeah, all right, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe cool man.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm trying to work on discipline and I'm trying to
work on consistently being uncomfortable for long term gain, you know,
and that's that's the that's that's the foundation for everything.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So what got what got you?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Did you have a moment where there was like, no,
I gotta I gotta get I got to get back
in here, or I.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Got to you know what I mean, like that at
that moment that made you.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Want to have that that consistency, that discipline, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I'm I mean I'm still like I'm still working
on that, you know, that journey. But fitness specifically wise,
like you know, I was an athlete growing up, and
and so was my wife. You know, we were varsity sports,
did all that, went to college and did almost nothing
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and felt it like yeah, put on a bunch of
weight ate like I was still an athlete, yeah, and
smoke weed instead of athleting. Yeah, So I put on
you know, I was probably like two to oh eight,
which was the heaviest I've been one eighty five since
I was like twelve, you know, like six five, solid
fight and like, yeah, you know, and like I was
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so then I I was like, ooh, this has got
to change somehow. And I didn't really I didn't have
a plan. I didn't like pick up program because I
have a problem with self motivation. And then eventually Quinn
and I moved into an apartment that was down the
block from Acrossfit gym called Ogre Shout out Ogre in Seattle.
It was a south a union and we knew enough
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about CrossFit that we're like, we would probably like this,
you know. Yeah, so we showed up.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well what made what made you think that? What?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Because we knew that the Olympic lifts were involved, and
we knew that like hard cardio, and like we liked
the idea of just that that feeling, that primal feeling
of moving big weight, Ye feels fucking good. Yeah, And
we both knew that cardio was a weak point. So
we're like, we're gonna if we're gonna do it, we
should do it hard and do it, you know. And
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we did know that like the the you know, the
joke back of the back then was like crossfits are
like vegans, you know, like they won't shut up about
it and they'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Or Christians, Yeah, yeah, they proselytize. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And we'd heard it. We'd heard it, you know, around
and we're like, we can get down with that. So
we showed up, tried it, loved it. I remember that
that moment for me of like, you know, the first
I don't know, the first month or so is just pain.
It's just like I'm fucking weak and I'm out of
shape and I don't like it. And then you have
that moment where you do something, and for me it
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was a I did a Turkish get up with a
forty five and two tens on it. Yeah, and I
was like, like one, I felt myself doing that. I
was like, ooh, that's that feels.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I've made it real good, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And then you know, just trying to incrementally work up
the prs and get like you know, twenty five's on
the forty five and you know. And then we moved
up here and there was no CrossFit.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And then over the years since we were here, like
you know, we try different stuff. I've got a Barbelle
in different weights at the house. I got we got
kettlebells at the house. I got punching bags at the house.
But like it's that that accountability, that community is. I
need it. You know, we were both team sports players.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We all need it. Man, every everybody does.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Like the whole lone wolf mentality, especially when it comes
to the training, is like look.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Man, cool, but do it with people.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like no matter who
you are, Like you got to have a you got
to have a road dog, you know, like to go
into that primal feeling, like you have to have partner.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, like because you got to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Sleep no matter you know what I mean, Like you
can't do everything all the time, Like you have to
have a partner. And when you when you step in
there and you you see.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That like everyone in there is trying to do the same.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Thing, and everyone's digging deep, everyone's pushing themselves to that.
Like it doesn't matter if I'm lifting one eighty five
and she's lifting forty five, you know what I mean,
Like the amount of effort expended is the same, you know,
Like she's pushing it one hundred and ten percent and
I'm doing the same, and it's like, okay, we're accountable
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for each other.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
And then.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I actually worked at Extreme Island Strength when it was
Extreme Fitness Nice, and I like really got into move
nat stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So I was doing a lot of like balance appropriate eception,
a lot of bear crawls, a lot of animal walks,
a lot of like I would set up a two
by four and do like I would call like archer lunges,
So I'd hold one of those weighted bars on the
balance beam, like lunge down and pivot one eighty and
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then stand up and just try to keep balance. And
and then like stuff like jumping off the box over
a bar on landing on the two by four, you know. Yeah.
And then and I did that mostly because I was like,
I'm gonna be out in nature with the kids, Like
we're gonna be climbing trees and balancing on logs and
like these are the foundations of movement.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And then h yeah, and then you just let you know,
you just let stuff laps. I had another kid, I'm like,
you know, but now when I I've had a couple
of those moments of functional prs in my life, you know,
like I I was just you can look around at
the Lovely Waterworks Gallery. I had to empty out the
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storage room and I was hopping off the box truck
with an armload full of stuff and like stepped down
from the box truck to the curb and like expected
my need a buckle a little because I'm used to like, yeah,
you know, you know, So I stepped down and like boom.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I was like, oh, that's solid locked all these fucking.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Lunches and wall balls. And then my kid busted. Like
we got to the gravel pit and he was running
down the first ten yards and stepped on a big
rock and like must have fractured his little footbone or
something because he immediately hit the ground and started ah.
And so I picked him up and I was like
it's cool, man, We'll just like you know, walked him
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down there and set him down, and he like took
a step and crunched crunched again and was like and
I was like shit. So I was like, okay, word, well,
I'll just pick you back up and walk you all
the way back up this fucking hill, you know, and
like that. And I was just I was like, this
is why daddy goes to the gym. You know, like it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Feels good, feels good, it feels good. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I was capable of doing that. And I you know,
if I carry both kids the stairs are from the car,
you know, it's like ninety pounds, yeah, you know, and
I'm like, I can do this, and then I can
lift them up into their bunk bed and you know,
it's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And that's like the very simple day to day like
I'm in there.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
And and then just looking forward, I knew. I mean
I've known since you know, my wife and I are
both physically capable and physically aware, and like, I'm like, man,
my kids are gonna eat me alive if I don't
stay yeah, a few steps ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And I'm about to have three boys, and it's got
to be Daddy's.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Got to be oh yeah, I mean you're going to
set the tone.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, you know, And that's part of that responsibility of
being the dad, especially you know, father father of sons
like too, to not just tell them to be fit
or to go to the gym, but like you you.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Actually live it.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You know, you actually embody what you're saying to them,
which sets a whole nother level of trust into into
your into our kids that maybe I mean, hopefully we
see as we get older, right like as they get older,
you know, of not being so hypocritical of them, of
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like do this, don't do that, do that. But it's
like yo, that you're you're on your phone, what do
you mean I've got to go do this?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Like you don't do that, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
And I think it's I think that's just part of
the part of the experience of it, that that we
lack with the way that we live just in general,
you know, like it's not we don't really live in
an environment that really encourages a physical activity. And then
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especially like any sort of challenging and ever that you
that you go on, you know, like it's not everything
is made so easily, Like everything that we do is
made for convenience, and it's made to like solve the
problem right now, to get it right now.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And training is not that like it's it's not that
at all. Man.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
There's days where like it's challenged to get in there,
you know, like to get in there and do the
work like it's I mean, and people will ask me like, well, dude,
you're here every day, man, like you love it like
I hear it in your voice, like you're passionate, like
this is your thing.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's like yeah, man, But like.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
There's a lot of times where like I don't want
to train, yeah, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Because it's not comfortable.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's not and it's like I'd rather do man, I'd
rather go. I'd rather go to the bakery and get
a nice little uh a nice little treat.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
With my wife and you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
But like, but then I know I have all I
have all you guys at the gym that that hold
me accountable. You know that I watch you guys all day,
Like all morning, I'm watching I'm watching you guys just
like do cool ship and it's inspiring to be And
so then I just had to remind us, like you
just go do what's on the board.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Just do what's on the board.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Just go, you know what I mean, Like you set
the timer, just go and do what's on the board.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Well that's that. That's that's that piece too that I
appreciate is like I don't have to do extra thinking.
I know that it's an hour long of my day.
I show up. I don't I don't look at you know,
like I'm not as some people try to like look
and see what the workout is and decide. I'm like,
I just need to get in the door. Yeah, and
whatever it is, it's gonna be some degree of.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Uncomfortable and then I'm gonna feel great afterwards, exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
And that's the part that like, it's really.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I think it's really missed with with with some people
that don't think of training in the way that we
do right. And again, it's not there's not like one
way to train, you know, there's there's multiple different ways
to like get what you're looking for out of your training,
and it's just it's what what kind of build are
you looking for? And build, when I mean build is
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like of your body, like of your life, of your
of your mind. Right, like dudes that like Justice Mack
shout out Justice Mac at the wreck that.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Boy has put on probably like muscles dude.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We I was wrapping with him today and totally I've
been because I always hit the big dudes up.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
If I ever if I ever see like an older
like jacked dude at the gym, CrossFit or not, it's like, yo.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
What do you want? You know what I'm saying, Like
what what do you do? What's going on? Man? How
old are you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
And like, and the dudes is cooler in the fan,
you know what I'm saying. He's coming to the open tomorrow. Yeah,
He's like, well, I ain't competing, but I'm gonna come
and number bring the kids. And it's like, dude, man,
please do because he used to dude that. Like I'll
see him going to work early early morning and he's
just like, dude, you guys are out here, like I've
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seen you guys running down the street. I hear the
music bumping, I see you know what I mean. And
it's like, well, dude, come check it out. Like yeah,
I'm not saying you come do crossbit, but like, come
check it out man, Like you obviously.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Are into strength.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, he clearly cares about it. Yeah, and he's made huge,
Like he was just kind of a normal build, Like
he's he's always been fit since, like you know, I
met him when I moved up here, and like I know,
he used to do some MMA training and different stuff,
so he's always been fit. But like, yeah, I saw
him walking around the corner in the gym the other
day and he looked like a professional wrestler.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Months. I was like, whoa dude, Yeah, well you got
you brought. Your name is Justice Mac, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Like you're in the WWE or a linebacker for Florida State.
You know, like he's looking the part, yeah for him,
And so it's like, yeah, those dudes, man, it's just
getting getting more dads in there that like whatever, Man,
it's just respect.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Like it is just like you know, you're grinding it out.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Like the work that he puts in and the discipline
that he has to build out his body like that
is not easy, Like it's not you know, it's one
thing we you know, a lot of fools avoid cardio.
They should not come through guys, but they still the
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discipline it takes to come in and your nutrition has
to be on point. I mean, it just has to
like to put on muscle like that. Your nutrition is
part of the work, right, And so it's like there's
dudes that do that. And then you've got the people
that build out with the triathlon. We've got the triathlon
trainings that's going on.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
At the wreck.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
That is a different type of build right as an athlete,
Like your body is going to develop differently athletes totally
different body type than say a crossfitter, right, and then
you've got your calisthenics guys, totally different build out than
your crossfitter and bodybuilders. And then these are the rock
climbers in there, right.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Like it's all.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
If you are are training for something, like you're programming
is going to reflect that. And because it's like, I
don't want to say it doesn't matter for the rock
climbers too to be able to push big weight on
the squad right front squad backswater deadlift, but like they
better be able to their their upper body strength better
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be fucking dialed.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, you know, it's just that's what they train for.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
And I'm sure that there's a whole training protocol that
high level rock climbers follow, right, because I mean some
of the dudes that that are climb rock climb San Juan,
Like those dudes are jacked, Yeah, like straight up like
jacked dudes.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And what's that wiry? Yeah, the monkey stuff, they're connective
tissue is thicker, their muscles on their fingers are developed,
you know, like their fingers have biceps.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
And but again, it's just discipline for those guys, you know.
And it's just as.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
A as a dad and a little bit of an
older dad to see all of these different types.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Of training like under one roof, man is like wild,
you know.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Because like I didn't I went. I spent most of
my time working out at a prison gym, right, and
then it went into CrossFit, which crossfitters call their gym
a box. I'm not sure where that came from or
I've never really liked that term, but like not the
big gym, not the globo gym, you know. And so
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now like having the gym inside of a a facility
that has a fucking rock climbing gym that has.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
A way cool a pool in a weight room, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Like, you see so many different types of people training, right,
and you can.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Tell like from the people that are.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
To circle back to the difference between training and working out,
you can see the people that are training opposed to
just working out. Like when you're with people that are training,
they conduct themselves in and around a weight room differently
than the people that are just in there like working out,
you know. And I I love it, man, like I
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really It's been one of my It has been a
great blessing to to be there and be able to
watch these guys every day. You know, there's a couple
old dudes and old is in like eighties that come
in every day.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, and they and borrow and they get it on. Man.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Like they it's the same three guys and they just
go in there and they and they got their.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Routine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Like they come in there and they and they use
the machines and it's just like, man, I want to
be like that discipline dude, and it just because it
becomes part of who you are and.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
You can see that generational push of like you know,
like I see dads with older dads than me, Like
like Barrett and his kid are in the gym, and
Kenny brings his kids sometimes and Mike Long brings his
fresh baby.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I brought you on Saturday, man.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
And he was fucking stoked, like he he I gave
my little kettlebell a little smash ball and he was
doing pull ups and like jogging around and he would
come over and like one point, I had the shirt
off because I was dying, yea, Like he was like
took his little shirt off and ran around and you know,
and he got to that point where he was like,
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this is hard.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I want to go home.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
And I'm like, yeah, dude, I want to go home too, man,
and like this is the point where you know, this
is our discipline practice because it is hard, and I
do want to go home and snuggle with you on
the couch and we're gonna work until that timer goes off,
you know, and like this is just the time that we.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, you know, oh dude, I love that man, I
And it's been it's fun. I remember talk with Mike
at the beginning first opened the gym about him bringing
the baby in, you know, and I coached a class
holding the baby until it fell asleep, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
He was he was a little bugged out about it at.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
First, like bringing the baby into the gym where in
the CrossFit community, like and people bring babies pretty normal,
you know, super normal. Yeah, like we I mean, every
every gym I've been a part of, there's always been
a few rando like sure thing babies you know that
just are there.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
You know, there's usually like.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
A dedicated childcare area where you kind of put your
kids while you train, and there'll be an adult in
there to supervise them. Or just a TV and some
toys and things like that. And I told them, I
was like, dude, this is the whole deal.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Like you bringing your daughter in here, like me bringing
my kids in here.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Like the goal is to have our families in here
with us.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Like I don't I really.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Like the idea of our family and our children watching
us as in athletes at the gym do challenging things,
you know.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Because normalize it.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, because you don't get to see it, right, Our
children don't ever get to see us do hard things
and and physically hard things, right, Like they they'll see this,
you know.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Chores break down mentally every day, yeah right, or like
they'll see you do like, you know, yeah, lose our shit,
like they see us lose our ship.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Or they'll see us like do some choring in the backyard.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
But it's like they know that we're doing that because
of this or this happened because of that. Where in
the gym they get to just see like, oh, they're
just doing this because they want to, you know. And
then the conversation start from like man, I don't really
want to.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's just like.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Why do you want to look so uncomfortable? And like yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Know, like what, why, why, what benefit do you have
from doing this? And then those conversations.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Start, oh, well, we do it for this.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I do it because I want to be able to
to help, Like I want to not only.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Not be a problem, but I want to I want
to help.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
And then secondary, I want to be that dude for
my wife. Straight up, I got there's no shame in
my game. I want my wife to look at me
for as long as I possibly can and be like,
that's one sexy motherfucker right there.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I mean, this is yeah, that's just what it is. Man.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
And I and I told that to a dad the
other day, which, like I was, I'm not a big
small talk guy. No no, yeah, no, like yeah, like
at the gym, for sure, the gym, that's my pulpit, man,
Like this rapping here with you, man, we'll fucking I'll
do this all day.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
But when it comes to just like.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Chit chatting, you know with just like single serving people,
you know, like, I'm just not it's not my thing, man,
because a lot of people just like hit you with
that negative shit all the time. And this dad did
it man, and it was like, dude, I don't you
know the conversation was about kids and having kids and
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stress and no sleep and wife and this and man,
you know, not not having sex with your wife, and
it's like, bro, what are you doing to make your
wife want to be with you? Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, you can. You can flip that
switch and put it all on her. But like, dude, yeah,
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I can assure you that when she sees you at
home drinking beers, playing video games, watching fucking sports, I can.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I can assure you that that's not what's saying.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
That's not happening, right, And then it's just like, well,
do fucking do something?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
You know, Well, it's that, it's that, it's I was there.
There was an interesting guest on Rogan the other day
of a dude who studies like like the brain and
he studies neuroscience and human behavior, and he was talking
about it in the context of like salesmen or just
trying to I think they started on the subject of
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cults and like how to how to cults do it?
How do you like train the Manchurian candidate he worked
for like the Syop division in the army, all this
different stuff, and he was saying he was like it
comes down to confidence and connection, and like you can
have like confidence, you know, there's symptoms of confidence, and
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our culture really likes the symptoms of things these days.
Like the symptoms of wealth is like the car and
the jewelry and the clothes, and the symptoms of confidence
is like you know, the presentable handshake, eye contact, using
someone's name, et cetera. But like if you're if if
you're waking up and you're faking the funk, people into
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it that on a like a very unconscious level. So
like the best way to do any of that is
to practice self discipline because if you know that you're
you know, you're getting up and you're putting on your clothes,
but like the bill collectors are hounding you, your your
house is a mess, like your kids are not your
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your ship is not handled like those that's disharmony, and
that comes through subconsciously, you know. And I don't know
why I thought about that, but I think it's just
like you get like the best thing you can do
for anyone else if you're trying to sell a lifestyle
or or teach someone or inspire someone, like you got
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to have your own stuff in order.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's bullshit, Yeah man, it's I was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
We A was talking with dude today about that exact
same thing of like how wanting getting to a point
where it's not about wanting others to think and.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Live the way that like I do or you do,
you know, anybody and not.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Judging or feeling bad for someone who who hasn't gotten
there yet, right, and then realizing that like you can
only do you do you like, you can only do
what you're going to do, and if people like that,
cool there, but that's the only thing that you can
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do is try to be the example, like for your family.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know, like that's the.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
That is the most important thing that we can do,
and to do that like not just at the gym,
but just how we conduct ourselves, like emotionally, how you know,
do I freak out?
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Do I say? Do I apologize when I freak out? Right?
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Which is like a you know, a really hard one
for a lot of people, is especially to like your kids,
you know, like, man, I fucking went nuts together. We're
going to you saw my eye on Saturday? Yeah, fucking Cato, man,
like melon to me with this were wrestling and Remy
flanked me, so I turned to address that threat, Kato
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saw an opportunity. He grabbed his jacket with his buckle
and just man, he cracked me right in the temple
man like and I I fucking saw red and then
like I scared him, you know, like legit, like I
saw the fear in his face and had to come back.
And after you know, I calm down, was like, hey, dude,
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I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
You know, like you have nothing to ever be afraid of.
It just fucking shit hurt, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Like this, Yeah, it was just like but it's hard,
you know, like it's hard to it's hard to do
that when like.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
You have you're already on.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
To the there's this you know, all these things adding
up and it's just like okay, do I do I
even think about that again? Or we're just pushing on.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Well, if we didn't if we didn't see repair as kids,
or if we didn't get the process the closed loop
of like, yo, something happened that sparked off like some
fucking hedgehog urchin spikes and people got hurt, whether it
(54:20):
was physically emotionally whatever, like and then the next step
of like let's come back together and like process, like,
hey man, I mean I do this probably every day
because something happens where I fucking I lose my shit. Yeah,
I'm like, you know, I'm yelling at him, and I'm
sounding like my dad and I'm hearing it in my
head and I'm like, like, I know my dad loves me,
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you know, like I have a solid relationship with my pops.
Like I respect a lot of the things that he
is about and does, and like there was not a
ton of processing or like repairing, you know, because he
had a temper growing up, and you know that step
of like hey, I lost my temper. I yelled at you.
(55:03):
I shouldn't have done that, you know, I said some
things out of anger, you know, like I'm sorry, and
you know, on part of my journey is like learning
how to not do that, how to control those feelings,
just like you are. You know, you're you're this is
your first time like feeling big feelings and figuring out
where the boundaries and what's acceptable and all this stuff.
(55:23):
And like I've had forty years and I'm still not
good at it. Yeah, so like we're learning this together together.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Did you did you see that as a as a kid,
did your parents was that or do you do you
remember that like kind of.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Being my mom did a lot of My mom has
a lot of like therapy language on deck and like
did a lot of you know a lot of like
the verbiage and and you know, she it was important
for her to like keep the focus on the relationship.
So like my pops didn't necessarily like I mean, he
(56:00):
would apologize for stuff, but like you know, he kind
of had that older school feeling of like you just
fucking do it because I said it, like I don't
want to have to.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Give you the everything's got to be as you.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Know, and and you know, he'd get mad and he'd
get keyed up and he'd get you know, I think
he you know, no, I feel like the the repairing
and the processing is an important step at our generation,
you know, and like, but there was lots of times
that my dad would be like, you know, your mom,
(56:35):
like shout out your mom because she made sure that
I remember to put the the focus on keeping the relationship,
not being correct or like not agreeing with you, like
because we butt it had plenty you know, like you.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Know, as you should as a father and son should.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
And like he you know, we got we had physical
like we never punched each other, but like we would scrap,
you know, like wrestle and like out of anger and
like we're tussling, we're going you know, Like you know,
I remember clearly like a lot of those times of
like he's just way bigger and stronger than me, you.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Know, and like but I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Like I respected that. Yeah, I as a kid needed
that feedback of like I am not pop dog here,
like you know, in my mind, I'm I'm the ship.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
But like there's a pecking order.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
There's a pecking order, and it has to be established
and at times re established every time.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, because over the years.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Yeah, because young boys, and again I can only speak
from from the perspective of being being a son and
then being.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
A father of sons. Is that's our role.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
I think that's to reference the blue job pink job
from the first episode, that's a blue job. A blue
job is to one remind our children, like, yo, there's
a time for questions, and I'm gonna make time when
there's time for questions, but this ain't that time.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Like this is because I'm telling you to do this.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Well, that's what I yelled at my kid the other
day because he was like, he spased on me about
he wanted to go get his Pokemon binder from his
his friend was supposed to bring it over because he
left it there. He came up to me hot, like
where's my binder? Like, yeah, she didn't come over and
bring it to me, Like why didn't you? Why didn't
you call her and tell her do it? And I
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was like whoa man, Like yeah, first of all, hold on, yeah, yeah,
hold on, yeah, you know. And then he I was like,
it's probably not going to work because it's five thirty,
it's dinner time. We're not going to be worrying about
that mission. Yeah, we're be down, and he lost it.
Spaz started screaming at me and like, well, you're not
going to get cooperation if you don't help me, if
(58:50):
you don't give me a yes, and you're not gonna
go like and he's saying all these things that I
say to them, like about how to get cooperation and
work as a team, and I'm like, I'm like, you're
not You're missing a point here, like you are not
in charge of the schedule of the day, like I
am captain of this team, and it is my responsibility
to get the schedule and get us where we need
to be for this day to be successful in any
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sort of way. And of course he's not trying to
hear that in the moment, so he's you know, he's like,
he's like, don't talk to me, and I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, well, I got it, Like, let's let's figure
out a solution. I'm willing to be flexible and doubt
talk to me. And I'm like and I finally I
was like, hey man, you don't fucking tell me not
to talk to you. Yeakay, Like I'm talking to you
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and you can listen to me. You don't tell me
not to talk to you. Like I'm trying to give
you a solution to this thing we're having, So calm
down and maybe we'll find a solution. And like, you know,
he cried about it, and he sat on the couch
about it, and like ten minutes later, he was like,
is it too late to repair? And I was like, no, dude,
it's never too late to Like he's like, can we
please go get my binder? And I was like, yes,
(59:54):
we can. You know, like you guys like I'm like,
let me put this buck in the ovens at the timer.
We'll drive over, we'll get it, we'll come back.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You know, you're way better man than me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
And he like he took that second to calm down
and come back and be like, here's what I want.
Here's what you said that that set me off, and like,
is there a way that we can find something.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
About it to you rereward that behavior?
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, I was like, I will go. I will drive
over and grab it with you instead of calling her
and telling her to bring it to us coming through.
That messes up their schedule, you know, like just we
got to think about all the things.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Oh man, I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
And then I came to the gym and worked out
all that frustration.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, man, that's what it is. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
We're we're good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, we're good. Man. Shut up the open tomorrow, Yeah, man,
come through. I don't it might be it'll be posted
up before tomorrow. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Again, and not just for members of the gym, any
of the gym's man the wreck, shout out the wreck, man,
you got hold it down.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Just anybody. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
If you're looking for something to do on a Friday
night with people that you know, like, you know these
people and.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
You've seeing them in a slightly different context, which bel
woil would be cool. When you've heard about it, you
have you have one, we are talking about it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, you have heard about the open from these people
that you know or work with, and yeah, it'll be
a good time where we have a little nacho bar
there bringing kids.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
And they're bringing their kids and my wife and kids
are coming. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Man, it'll it'll be fun. It'll be I'm excited to
just see this.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
It's the first.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Time, man, the Island's never there's never been a CrossFit
open on the island, so it's fun to be a
part of and to see just man, just see all
the people that signed up.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Man, it was a trip. Man. I still kind of
trip out.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
I look about that board and it's like, Yo, there's
twenty one people that are like like ready to rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
So yeah, hopefully your baby doesn't come to night and
we'll get it in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Oh man, Yeah, we will get it in tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah, come through, come check it out, man, and yeah,
be the light boom h
Boom Dad Pod episode six.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I think it's five. I think it's five.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I was we were both adamantly sure that the last
one was five, and then I looked at the list
and was like, no, ship, that's that's four. You know,
we lied, We lied to you guys on the last five. Whatever. Yeah,
man today, big Man getting back into fitness or starting
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your fitness journey after fatherhood and how to maintain that
or how do we even start that?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Like how do you.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Create time in a schedule that seldom feels like there's
time to do anything other than work full children's laundry, dishes,
you know, all of that. And Yeah, it's been It's
kind of cool because this dot has been coming up
a lot lately with the open Yeah, with the with
(01:09):
the open that we got tomorrow of realizing that majority
of the men at our gym our fathers.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Older fathers.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
You know, that came from not really training, you know,
or or training in a sense that it's negotiable, you know,
like if I have time, if I can do this,
if I can do that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And it's been fun to see people.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Buy into the idea that it's not just about them,
you know, like it's bigger than them, you know, Like
I'm sure you feel it when you when you miss
your six thirty class. It's like, man, I wonder what
someone says doing you know what I mean, I wonder
what time or wait or I just I mean, I
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wonder what they were doing, you know, because it's it's
so much more than that, and which rolls back into
how important it is to just be something other, like
to be yourself and to not just have that identity
of being dad, you know, And it's I don't want
to say it's easy, but it becomes.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Easier the more that you do it and the more
that you just.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Make sure that you do that, you know, like understand
that this is this is good for me and and
by proxy it's good for my family and it's good
for my wife.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Were you training when you were had your first kids?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah? Yeah I was.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I was training, But I wasn't training. No, I wasn't training.
I was working out. Yeah, you know, I was working
out garage.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Would you tell us the difference of that for you,
because you I've heard you say this before, the.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Difference between working out and training.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, the biggest difference difference that I that I feel
is between working out and training is working out you're just.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Training.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You are training for something, right, you were training for
a sport or an activity or for me. I look
at it as I'm just training for life, like I
want to no matter what happens, Like I want to
be an asset.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't want to be part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
And when you're working out, a lot of the times
you see people in the gym and they're just walking,
not walking around, but they're aimlessly do a set, check
their phone, sit down, do a set.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Right, But there's no there's no program, there's.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No like progressively programmed itinerary to follow, where with training
you you accept the fact that you don't know everything,
and that you're going to allow someone that knows even.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
A little bit more than you.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Right, and even that's not even having like a coach, right,
Like you can buy programming online and follow programming as
an individual, but someone else is writing the programming, right,
so that person is spending time and energy on making
this programming. Where if it's up to most people myself
(04:43):
included when I started, before I started training, when I
was just working out, I would it was all negotiable, right,
There was no like I'm doing this. It was like
I had my standard. Monday was chess day, right, then
it would be legs, which was was not legs right,
like you just didn't do them right, or you do
(05:06):
them on a Smith machine, or you do a few caphraises,
you do a couple of leg extensions, you know what
I mean, but never like adamantly like yo, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Crush the legs. I need to do the legs, and you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Just kind of like float around, you know, and became
like if I would if I did one day, if
I worked out one day, it would be chess day,
like whether it was Monday or if I missed Monday,
Tuesday Wednesday, and I can get to the gym on Thursday.
Thursday is chest right, Where when you have a programming
(05:40):
and a goal that you're working towards, it becomes non negotiable,
like real quick, right, because you're you're held accountable like
not to yourself, but like to this programming right and again,
whether it's in a class setting or a coach, like,
it's a programming. So for those get a programming. If
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you don't want to come to class, cool, follow a
programming or else As a guy, who's been training five
to six days.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
A week or.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
A while now, right, probably I think seventeen eighteen years. Like,
programming helps, and it will keep you honest, it will
keep you coming back to the gym and keep you
training for whatever you're trying to do, you know, and
to bring it back to being a father, Like that's
what I'm training for. That's what we train for, you know,
is I want to train for my children to not
(06:37):
only have a delusion that I'm a superhero, but do
maybe try to look the part on occasion, right, you
know what I mean, And training to be the object
of desire for my wife.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't training then. I was
just working out. I was just We had a gym
at the prison that used to be an old Chicken coop, right,
I mean it was like Rocky Bubboa stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I mean there was no heat, there was no air.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I mean, it was just like but it was awesome,
you know, it was so cool.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We'd go in there and it would be the same.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I worked with a it was called a quick reaction team, right.
We were the guys that would respond if things got
squarely in the prison and the coolest thing was all
before shift, we.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Would all be at the gym, all of.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Us would be at the gym, you know, and we
would just bullshit and lift weights and then go to
work and just be this little group, this tight knit
group of guys that like, really.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We really bonded.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Not necessarily in the gym, right, but it was really
nice to know that the guys that I was working with,
if something happened like these guys, these guys are taking
measures to give themselves a better opportunity to do their
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job correctly and to not be part of that problem,
you know, of like you respond to something and it's
like you're out of breath or you can't mentally check
the box of just like, yo, this is hard, this
is challenging.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Throw your back out trying?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Oh man, totally And that's like it's funny, man. I
was just I just left the gym and was talking
to one of our athletes, Brandy, about you know, with
the open.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
It was like, no, how did you get into it?
What did you? How did you get into CrossFit? You know?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And it was like I thought CrossFit was stupid, you know,
I thought all the things that everyone thinks of CrossFit,
just like many what are they doing, man, It's like
they're doing weird pull ups and they just do cardio
all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Because I was a I was a meathead. Man. It
was it was.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
It was bench in climb, branch flies rows, I mean
all the that working out strength five by fives like that.
That was it, man, That was all that there was
to it. And then I got into a physical altercation
at work with It was in the big yard and
there was man, there was probably.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It was during movement, so there was probably one hundred
and fifty dudes in the yard another one hundred trying
to get in through this turnstyle, right, and it was
the day.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It was bus day. Man, it was chain day.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
So like you know that on chain day, people are
gonna people are going to go to SEG. Right, Like
you get out the bus. What kind of paperwork do
you got? Good paperwork? Bad paperwork? Bad paperwork meaning you're
a child molester, you're a sex offender, like you beat
up women.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like guys don't like that.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
So if you have bad paper work, a lot of
guys will either ask to go to SEG or not.
And we we knew that something was gonna happen because
we knew that this guy was coming.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
In and he was to drop out for the which
is a.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Northern Mexican gang that that really hold court and they
they they do their thing. And at that time it
was it was on site for then and Ernos and yeah, long.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Story short back to training.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He we knew he was gonna go to seg Like
we knew that he made a choice. The the inmate
made a choice to go into the yard then to
stay in his cell, because he knew if he stayed
in his cell, there's no cameras in there, like visiting. Well,
it's totally like real talk, like people are just gonna
go up in there, give him the business, walk out
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and no one knows nothing where if you go out
into the yard. I mean the cops are around cameras,
you know what I mean, Like it's everywhere. And yeah,
so I these guys were, these guys were fighting, and
I it's funny, man, I remember from that moment I
had a ship had to go, man, and it was
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movement time, so he can't can't just leave when the
breaks none right, And I remember just thinking the whole time,
like man, I got shit I gotta go.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
And then I saw this.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I saw a ceo up on the catwalk just start instant,
like you could see it.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
His body language changed.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
He fucking popped smoke and he started like walking in
a direction to go down the stairs to get into
the yard.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I look over into the yard.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
And it's like on, yeah, like it's on right there
by the gate, right by the the tables, and there
was four uh gosh, three three to five actively engaged
in combat. And my thought process on it was get
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in there, stop it before it becomes something, because like
if you have guys that are usually combative, like that's
one thing, but like if they teeter off and like
run into a table of another another group of guys,
then you that three to five could really pop off
into like ten eleven thirty real quick, you know. And yeah,
(12:19):
so I I utilized a in my report, I called
it a tactical power bomb. It was great, you know,
And and you just racked up my shoulder bad, you know.
I had to get surgery. And from that moment it
was like, man, but I'm strong, I work out.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You know what if I can't do this, so I
can't really.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Do you grab them around the waist and yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
So they were, Yeah, so they were.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
They were engaged, and I remember creeping, not creeping, but
I remember kind of sorting through because the bigger one
for that is like crowd control, right, like you're sorting yourself.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I mean to get in there.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I had to get through I don't know eighty dudes, right,
And that alone is one of those moments where it's like,
if you think about it for for a little bit,
like you're not.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Going to do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's like I got to get in here, boom boom,
then get into the turnstyle, get in there. And I
remember thinking while I was coming up to these guys
coming up from behind them, I just remember thinking to myself, like,
don't spray them. Nobody spray them, right, because I didn't
want to deal with the secondhand exposure from the pepper spray.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So I remember thinking like.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Nobody SPRAMU spram And then just kind of got up
behind them, waited for them to separate, grab a dude
from the waist kind of and just kind of like
Judo threw them over the shoulder, got on the ground,
kind of hemmed him up, held him there and I
look up and the seven CEOs that were there staring
(13:50):
at me while I'm on the ground with this offender,
you know, and I'm yelling crowd control, you know, people
people hands like look at everybody else, man, Like I
got this guy like sort out the other hundred that
are watching.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
That, like most likely think that it is excessive force.
What I just did, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And yeah, so no one sprayed him, and it was
it was great.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But that was my moment after that of like I've
got to change.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I gotta change the way I work out, and I
gotta change. I gotta I gotta do something else.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
And was it a moment of like that that thing
of functional strength, Like if.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I can't use my body with the weight of someone
else's body on me and not get injured by just
a you know, a violent action, like I should be
doing something else, Like I should be able to do
that and not get injured against circumstances of like how
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you fall and this and that like whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
But like it totally changed everything.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
And then I was dating this woman who was doing
CrossFit after and I thought I was fit, you know
what I mean, Like I did some rehabs and I
was you know, I was back strong and doing my
incline presses and you know, all all the things. And
so I went into a gym with her and got
(15:22):
fucking smoked by everyone. Every single person in there cooked me,
Like I remember box jumps being the first, Like I
remember that movement from my first time and being deathly
afraid of jumping, like, man, I don't know, I can't jump.
I don't know when the last time. I Like, this
(15:42):
is scary, you know. And then after that, after being
humbled in that, in that light of like yo, man,
like there's levels to all of this, you know, like Okay, cool,
you can bench two twenty five a whole bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Great? Can you bench one point fifteen thirty times?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You know, and then do ten calories on the road,
you know what I mean? Like just have that full
circle of fitness. And I was hooked. I was absolutely
like this is this is what I'm doing, you know,
like this there's no coming back from it for me,
Like it just became I don't know, it became my thing,
(16:28):
you know, like all aspects of it, you know, the community.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Part of it, the training part of it, the way.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You could see progress like every week, every month, right,
because like you could do I don't know, five box
jumps before having to like catch your breath, you know
what I mean. And then it's like you come back
a month later and it's like, oh man, I can
do ten like all day long. You know, wall balls,
(16:58):
same thing, Like yeah, dude, Like those are the ones
where like wall balls will make you a coward. They
will remind you like yo, this is fourteen pounds or
twenty pounds, but like yeah, get your shit together, you know.
And so it was like you have that measure that again,
it goes back to just training, you know where like
with when you're when you're working out, you don't have
(17:19):
that right and like you hear me say it at
the gym of like you know these are championship rounds,
right when you get into rounds five, six, seven, like
hard is round three, right, like most people are done
at round three. You're like okay, I'm i'm I'm I'm
adamantly very yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I feel done.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, And then it's like yeah, well you're halfway there. Yeah,
you know, and that's where deep water yeah man, And
you get to see that and you get to see
it in yourself that like oh man, round three, my
time was X but I was done?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
How did round five? How did I get faster? Know?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
How was that round faster than this other round where
I was just like done, you know, And you get
to find that those extra gears in you, and then
it becomes for me, It makes it, It has made
it very glaring to myself that like I can check
that box of like, Okay, this is not going to
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be fun in a sense that like it's going to
be challenging, but then that is kind of the fun.
And then when you get to train alongside people that
are also thinking like that, and you get to put
your training side by side up against someone else's training.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Man, it just it's it's why people do it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
It's why people love CrossFit, or that's why they love
high rocks, you know what I mean, That's why they
love Olympic weightlifting because there's a measure, there's something that
like your training to meet this or it's just going
to be obvious that like you're not you're not training right,
like you're going into the gym and just kind of
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like doing the things that you want to do or
the things that like.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Develop easy for you.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And then yeah, so I've been training for pretty much
all of my children's lives, right, going through seasons of it,
and then it's it's now. It's just it's been at
a point where it's just what it's just what it is,
you know, Like did.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You have a moment of pre or post first kids
or whatever. Did you have the moment of like, oh,
I kind of conceptualized the idea of training for fatherhood
or being fit to show my kids or like do
the literal things like if I had to pick both
my kids up, and.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I still do that, you know, I still do that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Still, It's like I want to be like I can.
I know I could pick my kids up and I
could run five miles with them, Like I know that,
And I always think of that, like especially during like
COVID time when like gyms were closed and there's lots
of training outside where it's like yeah, you know, and
again it was that vibe, right, it was that like
the world's ending vibe.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And it's like I'm gonna fucking carry my kids twenty miles.
No one's gonna be able to catch us, dude, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Like it's it's kind of always like that, which I like, yeah,
I like to be able to get into my imagination
like that and just like play around and use my
body as that tool to like be able to do this.
And it's been it's been fun to see the shift
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in the training now, even from like I don't know,
like before COVID of like total CrossFit, you know, like
before COVID, I was like, well, a little bit before COVID,
I changed to a kettle bill gym, shadowed him, shadow
Zach Filer. But it was like now, it's just like
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it's it's just totally different, right, It's.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Still a mainstay.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
It is a it is a pillar in which I've
built my life and one that I wish that one
that my hope is my family is built on. Right,
Like I don't want to push my little guys Cato
and Remy to do it or even be there like
I did with my older my older sons, because my
older sons, I was a divorced dad. So it's like, yo,
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we're at the gym. You're at the gym, you know
what I mean. We had the we were doing the
split split time, like they would be a week with
their mom and they'd be a week with me, all
in the same neighborhood, so it was like awesome, but
it was like, Yo, we're we're at the gym, Like
we are at the gym at four o'clock Monday through Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Saturday morning, we're.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
At the gym at eight am, like, and you guys
are there, Like that's just kind of the deal. And
now the idea of getting them into the gym, they're
just like, oh, Dad, that's fucking dumb. I'm not doing that,
you know, like because it was forced on them. Yeah,
but what has been cool is to see that side,
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the strength training side, might be in a downward you know,
on a down season right now, a valley, right but
they just went and did a twenty five mile hike
out in the peninsula, you know what I mean, A
seniors in high school with two buddies. You know, they
just went and bopped around the peninsula for the long weekend.
And it's like, yeah, you know what I mean, part
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of the deal, that's fitness, you know. But I don't know,
it's never really I've always kind of been and like,
I mean, we've talked about it. Man, It's like I
wasn't very self aware of that like most people don't
think of fitness the way I do. I thought everybody
did up until probably like a year ago. Yeah, you
know what I mean, Like, no joke, man, Like I
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thought everybody everybody thought about it the way I did, right,
even to people that train like frequently. And so it's
been kind of it's been kind of a fun one
to to sort unpacking on why that is, and you
know what I mean of like, well, fucking what what
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does make you do this shit every day? You know,
like especially when gyms were closed and it was like
five am wake up calls at the gym at the
farm every day, right, just a dark gym, nice gym,
dark gym, no heat, you know what I mean. And
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when it's like there's a mirror in there and you're
just staring at myself.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
In the mirror, like, yeah, what the fuck are you
doing here? Man?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like it's five to fifteen in the morning, Like you're
by yourself, where's your you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
And just kind of finding that like that's just part
of the deal.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, you know, you got to latch onto that why,
and you've got to really believe it. Yeah, if your
why is your family and your kids, then it's pretty
easy to believe.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, that's and that's what it was, man, And that's
kind of to go back to, like doing this for
my kids, you know, and for my wife, because that's
what it is, especially as a dad, Like that's what
the whole deal is, you know, Like everything that we
do is for them, you know, in one way or
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the other. And even even the time that we take
to train with ourselves, like it's for our kids, it's
for our wife, it's for our family, Like we want
to be around for as long as we can, and
everybody knows that, Like if you prioritize health and fitness
at any point in your life, you are giving yourself
a better opportunity to to have quality years in your
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twilight where you're not at the hospital all the time
and missing out and causing added stress to your children
and grandchildren. Like I want to be able to run,
jump and climb with my grandkids, you know, and I
have to do that now. Which has been fun on
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this side to meet the younger dads or even the
guys that don't even have kids yet, but they're just
like newly married that are serious about this training or
just serious about training, right and not just not CrossFit
training right, but just training right, like for triathlons or
for cycling.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Cycling is a big one here on the island.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
People people get on those bikes and they rip, and
talking to them about the inevitable pitfalls that come with
prioritizing your fitness, even with your family, even with your spouse,
you know, because like there's gonna be a point that
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you have that that you have to set a boundary,
even with your spouse, you know, like, man, I have
to do this, Like I know that you don't want
me to do this. I know that there's these other
things that you feel that I've got to do.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But if I don't do this, I know that I'm not.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I know that this helps me be the best partner, husband,
father that I can be because when I don't do this,
the waters up upstairs get get rough. Yeah, and it
really and you have to set that boundary, like with
with your partner and with with your family and the
people that don't agree with the way that you that
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you that you train, or the level of you train
or the frequency in which you train, right, because I'm
sure you you're hearing it now from people like yeah,
you go every day man, Like that's have you heard
of overtraining?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
You know, people were like, oh, you're that You're a
crossbit guy.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Now yeah, all right, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe cool man.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm trying to work on discipline and I'm trying to
work on consistently being uncomfortable for long term gain, you know,
and that's that's the that's that's the foundation for everything.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
So what got what got you?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Did you have a moment where there was like, no,
I gotta I gotta get I got to get back
in here, or I.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Got to you know what I mean, like that at
that moment that made you.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Want to have that that consistency, that discipline, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, I'm I mean I'm still like I'm still working
on that, you know, that journey. But fitness specifically wise,
like you know, I was an athlete growing up, and
and so was my wife. You know, we were varsity sports,
did all that, went to college and did almost nothing
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and felt it like yeah, put on a bunch of
weight ate like I was still an athlete, yeah, and
smoke weed instead of athleting. Yeah, So I put on
you know, I was probably like two to oh eight,
which was the heaviest I've been one eighty five since
I was like twelve, you know, like six five, solid
fight and like, yeah, you know, and like I was
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so then I I was like, ooh, this has got
to change somehow. And I didn't really I didn't have
a plan. I didn't like pick up program because I
have a problem with self motivation. And then eventually Quinn
and I moved into an apartment that was down the
block from Acrossfit gym called Ogre Shout out Ogre in Seattle.
It was a south a union and we knew enough
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about CrossFit that we're like, we would probably like this,
you know. Yeah, so we showed up.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Well what made what made you think that? What?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Because we knew that the Olympic lifts were involved, and
we knew that like hard cardio, and like we liked
the idea of just that that feeling, that primal feeling
of moving big weight, Ye feels fucking good. Yeah, And
we both knew that cardio was a weak point. So
we're like, we're gonna if we're gonna do it, we
should do it hard and do it, you know. And
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we did know that like the the you know, the
joke back of the back then was like crossfits are
like vegans, you know, like they won't shut up about
it and they'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Or Christians, Yeah, yeah, they proselytize. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
And we'd heard it. We'd heard it, you know, around
and we're like, we can get down with that. So
we showed up, tried it, loved it. I remember that
that moment for me of like, you know, the first
I don't know, the first month or so is just pain.
It's just like I'm fucking weak and I'm out of
shape and I don't like it. And then you have
that moment where you do something, and for me it
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was a I did a Turkish get up with a
forty five and two tens on it. Yeah, and I
was like, like one, I felt myself doing that. I
was like, ooh, that's that feels.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I've made it real good, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And then you know, just trying to incrementally work up
the prs and get like you know, twenty five's on
the forty five and you know. And then we moved
up here and there was no CrossFit.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
And then over the years since we were here, like
you know, we try different stuff. I've got a Barbelle
in different weights at the house. I got we got
kettlebells at the house. I got punching bags at the house.
But like it's that that accountability, that community is. I
need it. You know, we were both team sports players.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
We all need it. Man, every everybody does.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Like the whole lone wolf mentality, especially when it comes
to the training, is like look.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Man, cool, but do it with people.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Like no matter who
you are, Like you got to have a you got
to have a road dog, you know, like to go
into that primal feeling, like you have to have partner.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, like because you got to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Sleep no matter you know what I mean, Like you
can't do everything all the time, Like you have to
have a partner. And when you when you step in
there and you you see.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
That like everyone in there is trying to do the same.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Thing, and everyone's digging deep, everyone's pushing themselves to that.
Like it doesn't matter if I'm lifting one eighty five
and she's lifting forty five, you know what I mean,
Like the amount of effort expended is the same, you know,
Like she's pushing it one hundred and ten percent and
I'm doing the same, and it's like, okay, we're accountable
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for each other.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
And then.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I actually worked at Extreme Island Strength when it was
Extreme Fitness Nice, and I like really got into move
nat stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So I was doing a lot of like balance appropriate eception,
a lot of bear crawls, a lot of animal walks,
a lot of like I would set up a two
by four and do like I would call like archer lunges,
So I'd hold one of those weighted bars on the
balance beam, like lunge down and pivot one eighty and
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then stand up and just try to keep balance. And
and then like stuff like jumping off the box over
a bar on landing on the two by four, you know. Yeah.
And then and I did that mostly because I was like,
I'm gonna be out in nature with the kids, Like
we're gonna be climbing trees and balancing on logs and
like these are the foundations of movement.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
And then h yeah, and then you just let you know,
you just let stuff laps. I had another kid, I'm like,
you know, but now when I I've had a couple
of those moments of functional prs in my life, you know,
like I I was just you can look around at
the Lovely Waterworks Gallery. I had to empty out the
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storage room and I was hopping off the box truck
with an armload full of stuff and like stepped down
from the box truck to the curb and like expected
my need a buckle a little because I'm used to like, yeah,
you know, you know, So I stepped down and like boom.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I was like, oh, that's solid locked all these fucking.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Lunches and wall balls. And then my kid busted. Like
we got to the gravel pit and he was running
down the first ten yards and stepped on a big
rock and like must have fractured his little footbone or
something because he immediately hit the ground and started ah.
And so I picked him up and I was like
it's cool, man, We'll just like you know, walked him
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down there and set him down, and he like took
a step and crunched crunched again and was like and
I was like shit. So I was like, okay, word, well,
I'll just pick you back up and walk you all
the way back up this fucking hill, you know, and
like that. And I was just I was like, this
is why daddy goes to the gym. You know, like it.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Feels good, feels good, it feels good. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I was capable of doing that. And I you know,
if I carry both kids the stairs are from the car,
you know, it's like ninety pounds, yeah, you know, and
I'm like, I can do this, and then I can
lift them up into their bunk bed and you know,
it's not a problem.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And that's like the very simple day to day like
I'm in there.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
And and then just looking forward, I knew. I mean
I've known since you know, my wife and I are
both physically capable and physically aware, and like, I'm like, man,
my kids are gonna eat me alive if I don't
stay yeah, a few steps ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And I'm about to have three boys, and it's got
to be Daddy's.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Got to be oh yeah, I mean you're going to
set the tone.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, you know, And that's part of that responsibility of
being the dad, especially you know, father father of sons
like too, to not just tell them to be fit
or to go to the gym, but like you you.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Actually live it.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You know, you actually embody what you're saying to them,
which sets a whole nother level of trust into into
your into our kids that maybe I mean, hopefully we
see as we get older, right like as they get older,
you know, of not being so hypocritical of them, of
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like do this, don't do that, do that. But it's
like yo, that you're you're on your phone, what do
you mean I've got to go do this?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Like you don't do that, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
And I think it's I think that's just part of
the part of the experience of it, that that we
lack with the way that we live just in general,
you know, like it's not we don't really live in
an environment that really encourages a physical activity. And then
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especially like any sort of challenging and ever that you
that you go on, you know, like it's not everything
is made so easily, Like everything that we do is
made for convenience, and it's made to like solve the
problem right now, to get it right now.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
And training is not that like it's it's not that
at all. Man.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
There's days where like it's challenged to get in there,
you know, like to get in there and do the
work like it's I mean, and people will ask me like, well, dude,
you're here every day, man, like you love it like
I hear it in your voice, like you're passionate, like
this is your thing.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
It's like yeah, man, But like.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
There's a lot of times where like I don't want
to train, yeah, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Because it's not comfortable.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
It's not and it's like I'd rather do man, I'd
rather go. I'd rather go to the bakery and get
a nice little uh a nice little treat.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
With my wife and you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
But like, but then I know I have all I
have all you guys at the gym that that hold
me accountable. You know that I watch you guys all day,
Like all morning, I'm watching I'm watching you guys just
like do cool ship and it's inspiring to be And
so then I just had to remind us, like you
just go do what's on the board.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Just do what's on the board.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Just go, you know what I mean, Like you set
the timer, just go and do what's on the board.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Well that's that. That's that's that piece too that I
appreciate is like I don't have to do extra thinking.
I know that it's an hour long of my day.
I show up. I don't I don't look at you know,
like I'm not as some people try to like look
and see what the workout is and decide. I'm like,
I just need to get in the door. Yeah, and
whatever it is, it's gonna be some degree of.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Uncomfortable and then I'm gonna feel great afterwards, exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
And that's the part that like, it's really.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I think it's really missed with with with some people
that don't think of training in the way that we
do right. And again, it's not there's not like one
way to train, you know, there's there's multiple different ways
to like get what you're looking for out of your training,
and it's just it's what what kind of build are
you looking for? And build, when I mean build is
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like of your body, like of your life, of your
of your mind. Right, like dudes that like Justice Mack
shout out Justice Mac at the wreck that.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Boy has put on probably like muscles dude.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
We I was wrapping with him today and totally I've
been because I always hit the big dudes up.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
If I ever if I ever see like an older
like jacked dude at the gym, CrossFit or not, it's like, yo.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
What do you want? You know what I'm saying, Like
what what do you do? What's going on? Man? How
old are you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
And like, and the dudes is cooler in the fan,
you know what I'm saying. He's coming to the open tomorrow. Yeah,
He's like, well, I ain't competing, but I'm gonna come
and number bring the kids. And it's like, dude, man,
please do because he used to dude that. Like I'll
see him going to work early early morning and he's
just like, dude, you guys are out here, like I've
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seen you guys running down the street. I hear the
music bumping, I see you know what I mean. And
it's like, well, dude, come check it out. Like yeah,
I'm not saying you come do crossbit, but like, come
check it out man, Like you obviously.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Are into strength.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah, he clearly cares about it. Yeah, and he's made huge,
Like he was just kind of a normal build, Like
he's he's always been fit since, like you know, I
met him when I moved up here, and like I know,
he used to do some MMA training and different stuff,
so he's always been fit. But like, yeah, I saw
him walking around the corner in the gym the other
day and he looked like a professional wrestler.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Months. I was like, whoa dude, Yeah, well you got
you brought. Your name is Justice Mac, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Like you're in the WWE or a linebacker for Florida State.
You know, like he's looking the part, yeah for him,
And so it's like, yeah, those dudes, man, it's just
getting getting more dads in there that like whatever, Man,
it's just respect.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Like it is just like you know, you're grinding it out.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Like the work that he puts in and the discipline
that he has to build out his body like that
is not easy, Like it's not you know, it's one
thing we you know, a lot of fools avoid cardio.
They should not come through guys, but they still the
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discipline it takes to come in and your nutrition has
to be on point. I mean, it just has to
like to put on muscle like that. Your nutrition is
part of the work, right, And so it's like there's
dudes that do that. And then you've got the people
that build out with the triathlon. We've got the triathlon
trainings that's going on.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
At the wreck.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
That is a different type of build right as an athlete,
Like your body is going to develop differently athletes totally
different body type than say a crossfitter, right, and then
you've got your calisthenics guys, totally different build out than
your crossfitter and bodybuilders. And then these are the rock
climbers in there, right.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Like it's all.
Speaker 3 (41:16):
If you are are training for something, like you're programming
is going to reflect that. And because it's like, I
don't want to say it doesn't matter for the rock
climbers too to be able to push big weight on
the squad right front squad backswater deadlift, but like they
better be able to their their upper body strength better
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be fucking dialed.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, you know, it's just that's what they train for.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
And I'm sure that there's a whole training protocol that
high level rock climbers follow, right, because I mean some
of the dudes that that are climb rock climb San Juan,
Like those dudes are jacked, Yeah, like straight up like
jacked dudes.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
And what's that wiry? Yeah, the monkey stuff, they're connective
tissue is thicker, their muscles on their fingers are developed,
you know, like their fingers have biceps.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
And but again, it's just discipline for those guys, you know.
And it's just as.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
A as a dad and a little bit of an
older dad to see all of these different types.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Of training like under one roof, man is like wild,
you know.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Because like I didn't I went. I spent most of
my time working out at a prison gym, right, and
then it went into CrossFit, which crossfitters call their gym
a box. I'm not sure where that came from or
I've never really liked that term, but like not the
big gym, not the globo gym, you know. And so
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now like having the gym inside of a a facility
that has a fucking rock climbing gym that has.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
A way cool a pool in a weight room, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Like, you see so many different types of people training, right,
and you can.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Tell like from the people that are.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
To circle back to the difference between training and working out,
you can see the people that are training opposed to
just working out. Like when you're with people that are training,
they conduct themselves in and around a weight room differently
than the people that are just in there like working out,
you know. And I I love it, man, like I
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really It's been one of my It has been a
great blessing to to be there and be able to
watch these guys every day. You know, there's a couple
old dudes and old is in like eighties that come
in every day.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, and they and borrow and they get it on. Man.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Like they it's the same three guys and they just
go in there and they and they got their.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Routine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Like they come in there and they and they use
the machines and it's just like, man, I want to
be like that discipline dude, and it just because it
becomes part of who you are and.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
You can see that generational push of like you know,
like I see dads with older dads than me, Like
like Barrett and his kid are in the gym, and
Kenny brings his kids sometimes and Mike Long brings his
fresh baby.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I brought you on Saturday, man.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
And he was fucking stoked, like he he I gave
my little kettlebell a little smash ball and he was
doing pull ups and like jogging around and he would
come over and like one point, I had the shirt
off because I was dying, yea, Like he was like
took his little shirt off and ran around and you know,
and he got to that point where he was like,
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this is hard.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I want to go home.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
And I'm like, yeah, dude, I want to go home too, man,
and like this is the point where you know, this
is our discipline practice because it is hard, and I
do want to go home and snuggle with you on
the couch and we're gonna work until that timer goes off,
you know, and like this is just the time that we.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, you know, oh dude, I love that man, I
And it's been it's fun. I remember talk with Mike
at the beginning first opened the gym about him bringing
the baby in, you know, and I coached a class
holding the baby until it fell asleep, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
He was he was a little bugged out about it at.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
First, like bringing the baby into the gym where in
the CrossFit community, like and people bring babies pretty normal,
you know, super normal. Yeah, like we I mean, every
every gym I've been a part of, there's always been
a few rando like sure thing babies you know that
just are there.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
You know, there's usually like.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
A dedicated childcare area where you kind of put your
kids while you train, and there'll be an adult in
there to supervise them. Or just a TV and some
toys and things like that. And I told them, I
was like, dude, this is the whole deal.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Like you bringing your daughter in here, like me bringing
my kids in here.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Like the goal is to have our families in here
with us.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Like I don't I really.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
Like the idea of our family and our children watching
us as in athletes at the gym do challenging things,
you know.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Because normalize it.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, because you don't get to see it, right, Our
children don't ever get to see us do hard things
and and physically hard things, right, Like they they'll see this,
you know.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Chores break down mentally every day, yeah right, or like
they'll see you do like, you know, yeah, lose our shit,
like they see us lose our ship.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Or they'll see us like do some choring in the backyard.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
But it's like they know that we're doing that because
of this or this happened because of that. Where in
the gym they get to just see like, oh, they're
just doing this because they want to, you know. And
then the conversation start from like man, I don't really
want to.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
It's just like.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Why do you want to look so uncomfortable? And like yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Know, like what, why, why, what benefit do you have
from doing this? And then those conversations.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Start, oh, well, we do it for this.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I do it because I want to be able to
to help, Like I want to not only.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Not be a problem, but I want to I want
to help.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
And then secondary, I want to be that dude for
my wife. Straight up, I got there's no shame in
my game. I want my wife to look at me
for as long as I possibly can and be like,
that's one sexy motherfucker right there.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I mean, this is yeah, that's just what it is. Man.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
And I and I told that to a dad the
other day, which, like I was, I'm not a big
small talk guy. No no, yeah, no, like yeah, like
at the gym, for sure, the gym, that's my pulpit, man,
Like this rapping here with you, man, we'll fucking I'll
do this all day.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
But when it comes to just like.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
Chit chatting, you know with just like single serving people,
you know, like, I'm just not it's not my thing, man,
because a lot of people just like hit you with
that negative shit all the time. And this dad did
it man, and it was like, dude, I don't you
know the conversation was about kids and having kids and
(48:57):
stress and no sleep and wife and this and man,
you know, not not having sex with your wife, and
it's like, bro, what are you doing to make your
wife want to be with you? Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, Like, yeah, you can. You can flip that
switch and put it all on her. But like, dude, yeah,
(49:19):
I can assure you that when she sees you at
home drinking beers, playing video games, watching fucking sports, I can.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I can assure you that that's not what's saying.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
That's not happening, right, And then it's just like, well,
do fucking do something?
Speaker 1 (49:35):
You know, Well, it's that, it's that, it's I was there.
There was an interesting guest on Rogan the other day
of a dude who studies like like the brain and
he studies neuroscience and human behavior, and he was talking
about it in the context of like salesmen or just
trying to I think they started on the subject of
(49:57):
cults and like how to how to cults do it?
How do you like train the Manchurian candidate he worked
for like the Syop division in the army, all this
different stuff, and he was saying he was like it
comes down to confidence and connection, and like you can
have like confidence, you know, there's symptoms of confidence, and
(50:19):
our culture really likes the symptoms of things these days.
Like the symptoms of wealth is like the car and
the jewelry and the clothes, and the symptoms of confidence
is like you know, the presentable handshake, eye contact, using
someone's name, et cetera. But like if you're if if
you're waking up and you're faking the funk, people into
(50:40):
it that on a like a very unconscious level. So
like the best way to do any of that is
to practice self discipline because if you know that you're
you know, you're getting up and you're putting on your clothes,
but like the bill collectors are hounding you, your your
house is a mess, like your kids are not your
(51:02):
your ship is not handled like those that's disharmony, and
that comes through subconsciously, you know. And I don't know
why I thought about that, but I think it's just
like you get like the best thing you can do
for anyone else if you're trying to sell a lifestyle
or or teach someone or inspire someone, like you got
(51:25):
to have your own stuff in order.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's bullshit, Yeah man, it's I was. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
We A was talking with dude today about that exact
same thing of like how wanting getting to a point
where it's not about wanting others to think and.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Live the way that like I do or you do,
you know, anybody and not.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
Judging or feeling bad for someone who who hasn't gotten
there yet, right, and then realizing that like you can
only do you do you like, you can only do
what you're going to do, and if people like that,
cool there, but that's the only thing that you can
(52:23):
do is try to be the example, like for your family.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You know, like that's the.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
That is the most important thing that we can do,
and to do that like not just at the gym,
but just how we conduct ourselves, like emotionally, how you know,
do I freak out?
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Do I say? Do I apologize when I freak out? Right?
Speaker 3 (52:44):
Which is like a you know, a really hard one
for a lot of people, is especially to like your kids,
you know, like, man, I fucking went nuts together. We're
going to you saw my eye on Saturday? Yeah, fucking Cato, man,
like melon to me with this were wrestling and Remy
flanked me, so I turned to address that threat, Kato
(53:07):
saw an opportunity. He grabbed his jacket with his buckle
and just man, he cracked me right in the temple
man like and I I fucking saw red and then
like I scared him, you know, like legit, like I
saw the fear in his face and had to come back.
And after you know, I calm down, was like, hey, dude,
(53:28):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (53:29):
You know, like you have nothing to ever be afraid of.
It just fucking shit hurt, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Like this, Yeah, it was just like but it's hard,
you know, like it's hard to it's hard to do
that when like.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
You have you're already on.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
To the there's this you know, all these things adding
up and it's just like okay, do I do I
even think about that again? Or we're just pushing on.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Well, if we didn't if we didn't see repair as kids,
or if we didn't get the process the closed loop
of like, yo, something happened that sparked off like some
fucking hedgehog urchin spikes and people got hurt, whether it
(54:20):
was physically emotionally whatever, like and then the next step
of like let's come back together and like process, like,
hey man, I mean I do this probably every day
because something happens where I fucking I lose my shit. Yeah,
I'm like, you know, I'm yelling at him, and I'm
sounding like my dad and I'm hearing it in my
head and I'm like, like, I know my dad loves me,
(54:41):
you know, like I have a solid relationship with my pops.
Like I respect a lot of the things that he
is about and does, and like there was not a
ton of processing or like repairing, you know, because he
had a temper growing up, and you know that step
of like hey, I lost my temper. I yelled at you.
(55:03):
I shouldn't have done that, you know, I said some
things out of anger, you know, like I'm sorry, and
you know, on part of my journey is like learning
how to not do that, how to control those feelings,
just like you are. You know, you're you're this is
your first time like feeling big feelings and figuring out
where the boundaries and what's acceptable and all this stuff.
(55:23):
And like I've had forty years and I'm still not
good at it. Yeah, so like we're learning this together together.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Did you did you see that as a as a kid,
did your parents was that or do you do you
remember that like kind of.
Speaker 1 (55:37):
Being my mom did a lot of My mom has
a lot of like therapy language on deck and like
did a lot of you know a lot of like
the verbiage and and you know, she it was important
for her to like keep the focus on the relationship.
So like my pops didn't necessarily like I mean, he
(56:00):
would apologize for stuff, but like you know, he kind
of had that older school feeling of like you just
fucking do it because I said it, like I don't
want to have to.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Give you the everything's got to be as you.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Know, and and you know, he'd get mad and he'd
get keyed up and he'd get you know, I think
he you know, no, I feel like the the repairing
and the processing is an important step at our generation,
you know, and like, but there was lots of times
that my dad would be like, you know, your mom,
(56:35):
like shout out your mom because she made sure that
I remember to put the the focus on keeping the relationship,
not being correct or like not agreeing with you, like
because we butt it had plenty you know, like you.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Know, as you should as a father and son should.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
And like he you know, we got we had physical
like we never punched each other, but like we would scrap,
you know, like wrestle and like out of anger and
like we're tussling, we're going you know, Like you know,
I remember clearly like a lot of those times of
like he's just way bigger and stronger than me, you.
Speaker 2 (57:09):
Know, and like but I'm gonna give it.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
Like I respected that. Yeah, I as a kid needed
that feedback of like I am not pop dog here,
like you know, in my mind, I'm I'm the ship.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
But like there's a pecking order.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
There's a pecking order, and it has to be established
and at times re established every time.
Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yeah, because over the years.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Yeah, because young boys, and again I can only speak
from from the perspective of being being a son and
then being.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
A father of sons. Is that's our role.
Speaker 3 (57:43):
I think that's to reference the blue job pink job
from the first episode, that's a blue job. A blue
job is to one remind our children, like, yo, there's
a time for questions, and I'm gonna make time when
there's time for questions, but this ain't that time.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Like this is because I'm telling you to do this.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
Well, that's what I yelled at my kid the other
day because he was like, he spased on me about
he wanted to go get his Pokemon binder from his
his friend was supposed to bring it over because he
left it there. He came up to me hot, like
where's my binder? Like, yeah, she didn't come over and
bring it to me, Like why didn't you? Why didn't
you call her and tell her do it? And I
(58:30):
was like whoa man, Like yeah, first of all, hold on, yeah, yeah,
hold on, yeah, you know. And then he I was like,
it's probably not going to work because it's five thirty,
it's dinner time. We're not going to be worrying about
that mission. Yeah, we're be down, and he lost it.
Spaz started screaming at me and like, well, you're not
going to get cooperation if you don't help me, if
(58:50):
you don't give me a yes, and you're not gonna
go like and he's saying all these things that I
say to them, like about how to get cooperation and
work as a team, and I'm like, I'm like, you're
not You're missing a point here, like you are not
in charge of the schedule of the day, like I
am captain of this team, and it is my responsibility
to get the schedule and get us where we need
to be for this day to be successful in any
(59:12):
sort of way. And of course he's not trying to
hear that in the moment, so he's you know, he's like,
he's like, don't talk to me, and I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, well, I got it, Like, let's let's figure
out a solution. I'm willing to be flexible and doubt
talk to me. And I'm like and I finally I
was like, hey man, you don't fucking tell me not
to talk to you. Yeakay, Like I'm talking to you
(59:32):
and you can listen to me. You don't tell me
not to talk to you. Like I'm trying to give
you a solution to this thing we're having, So calm
down and maybe we'll find a solution. And like, you know,
he cried about it, and he sat on the couch
about it, and like ten minutes later, he was like,
is it too late to repair? And I was like, no, dude,
it's never too late to Like he's like, can we
please go get my binder? And I was like, yes,
(59:54):
we can. You know, like you guys like I'm like,
let me put this buck in the ovens at the timer.
We'll drive over, we'll get it, we'll come back.
Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
You know, you're way better man than me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
And he like he took that second to calm down
and come back and be like, here's what I want.
Here's what you said that that set me off, and like,
is there a way that we can find something.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
About it to you rereward that behavior?
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Yeah, I was like, I will go. I will drive
over and grab it with you instead of calling her
and telling her to bring it to us coming through.
That messes up their schedule, you know, like just we
got to think about all the things.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Oh man, I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
And then I came to the gym and worked out
all that frustration.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, man, that's what it is. Man.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
We're we're good.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, we're good. Man. Shut up the open tomorrow, Yeah, man,
come through. I don't it might be it'll be posted
up before tomorrow. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Again, and not just for members of the gym, any
of the gym's man the wreck, shout out the wreck, man,
you got hold it down.
Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Just anybody. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
If you're looking for something to do on a Friday
night with people that you know, like, you know these
people and.
Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
You've seeing them in a slightly different context, which bel
woil would be cool. When you've heard about it, you
have you have one, we are talking about it.
Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, you have heard about the open from these people
that you know or work with, and yeah, it'll be
a good time where we have a little nacho bar
there bringing kids.
Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
And they're bringing their kids and my wife and kids
are coming. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
Man, it'll it'll be fun. It'll be I'm excited to
just see this.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
It's the first.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Time, man, the Island's never there's never been a CrossFit
open on the island, so it's fun to be a
part of and to see just man, just see all
the people that signed up.
Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Man, it was a trip. Man. I still kind of
trip out.
Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
I look about that board and it's like, Yo, there's
twenty one people that are like like ready to rock
and roll.
Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
So yeah, hopefully your baby doesn't come to night and
we'll get it in tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Oh man, Yeah, we will get it in tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yeah, come through, come check it out, man, and yeah,
be the light boom h
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