The Catch Up! Back from Baby...

Nate comes back after a few weeks off to welcome his third son into the world, the fellas catch up and go over the birth story and the joys/struggles of being a father and a partner in the maelstrom of the miracle of labor and birth. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boom Episode twelve, The catch Up.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Here we are. It's been I think it's been like
a month, right, it's been. It's been a couple of weeks.
Things have happened. At least three things have happened. Yeah, man,
congrat start off, congratulations baby, Felix is on island, Felix
Ivy is, and Felix Ivy is here is in the world. Man,

(00:24):
I want to hear about it. Yeah, I want to
hear about it because you were gone. They were gone,
and then you came back for a day, hit the gym,
and then went back off because family was still out there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, so we so our plan while rewind the first
two kids, we're a c sections. First one was emergency,
second one was more like, let's schedule it for you know,
Quinn was finishing up her doctorate, she had her licensing exams.
She was like, Okay, let's just schedule it in between

(00:57):
my tests so I know exactly what's going on. And
since the hospital is gonna tell us, we have to
do that anyway. And so she did. And you know,
c sections are major surgery, so it's not great like
the recovery.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Did you see it? Did you you?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
They don't let me watch like they put this, Like
I'm at her head and they put the curtain, but
I can see him getting yanked out like like like
it's not gentle. They like grab him in their and
like he's you know, covered in blood and all this stuff.
So like and like I peaked a little, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
But that's major surgery, right, I mean you got to
cut through that, through.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
It the whole abdominal wall, and it separates her lower
half from her upper half. As far as recovery, like
you know, she can't do anything that flexes the core,
which is like everything everything you do. So the first
recovery was really brutal, and I think because it was
more emergency, the second one was easier because I think

(02:00):
she chose it and that that makes a difference. So
this one we were like, okay, you know, she's like
I think I want to try v back, you know,
vaginal birth after cesarean. And I was like, yeah, absolutely,
that's a that's a choice that I will get behind
any day. You know. It's it's the miracle of literally everything, yeah,

(02:22):
in life is the miracle of birth. And like I
want that for you, I want that for the baby.
You know, that's great. So she like found some midwives who,
you know, because birth centers won't let you do it,
hospitals won't let you do it.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
They won't if you've had a c section before. There
no shit, I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And that's insurance shit, you know, that's like insurance liability nonsense,
which the midwives are like, sure, let me see your history,
let me see your birth story. Let's talk about what
happened like and nothing in nothing in that story, nothing
in that story means you can't do it. You know.

(02:58):
She like went into labor for Rio. She she kind
of went into labor for Kobe, but it was you know,
it was that was a different thing. But for Rio,
she went into labor and and we had the C
section scheduled anyway. So yeah, they were like, yeah, you
can do it. Our midwife herself did a vaginal laster.

(03:19):
Two cesarean, so we're confident.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
She like.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Downloaded these birth story meditations that she listened to every
night for you know, four months, five months, like preparing herself,
getting her you know, the journey for her is like
connecting to her body and listening to it and trusting
in the process and so she did all that work.
She stayed on her fitness, like she got like five

(03:48):
thousand steps a day, did her stretches, did her hip
opening stuff. So we're like, boom, this is gonna go great.
We'll rent an airbnb because we live on an island.
We don't do birth here, so we'll you know, go
around June nineteen to July nineteen birth.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Date somewhere in the middle all there.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, like the due date was July fourth, so we're
like that should be fine. And then on the fourteenth
or something, maybe the night of the fourteenth, she started
having like pretty strong contractions that got pretty regular, and
we're like, okay, this is in the window. This is

(04:29):
regular enough that like it could happen. So we need
to decide now, like what we do because our airbnb
is not ready but this is going down. And the
only option was, okay, we'll need to rent another Airbnb,
but it has to be by a hospital, you know.
So we looked around the original ones in Marysville next

(04:50):
to Everett because Providence Everitt has a great surgery, birth,
birth whatever program. But there's nothing around there that's not
like two grand I. You know. It's like we can't
do that. So we found a little a little house
up in Blaine, Washington. I don't know if you've ever
been to Blaine. It's a tiny town, like right near

(05:10):
the Canadian border. Dope little town. Fell in love with Blaine.
Shout out Blaine. Ah, yeah, it was. It was awesome.
It was a little house and that's like half an
hour from the Bellingham Hospital.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Cool you make that work.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Went out to Blaine, posted up. She was contracting regularly
and like really feeling it, like and she's still working.
She's still seeing clients. So she's like in the room
seeing clients and then laying down and like breathing through
these contractions and then seeing clients. And I've got the kids.
The kids are, the kids are. The kids had been
like sick, you know, like they have the snuffily coffee

(05:49):
throat hurt, and like that's kind of normal, you know,
kids be passing ship back and forth, and we're like, okay,
that's you know, that's okay, like not not super concerned.
And then I started feeling like it up there and
I was like, oh, like this doesn't feel like normal cold,
Like this feels similar to COVID, like not not as bad,
but like not, I want to sleep, like yeah, I

(06:11):
want to lie down. And that lasted about two days
and then I was like, all right, I'm good, you
know I'm better, and so we.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So then I came back to the island with Coha
because I had to handle some you know, package up
some heart and handle some ship here and it's hard
for me to ask people for help. So I had
already reached the limit of like asking people to comfort,
like I'm just gonna.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Come back your comfort level of help.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
And so I came back, handled that, hit the gym,
and then went down to meet Quinn was packing up
the other house, and then we she came to the
ferry landing swooped us and we went down to the
big House, the original bed room in Marysville. We're like,

(07:02):
let's get the big ones. So Grandma's or friends or whatever.
And our friend Christina had been like, let me know
when you guys go down, I want to come help,
and we're like, okay, you know, like your life is
so busy, like we understand, like don't put yourself out
like she's going through a ton and we're not. Again,
we're not used to relying on anyone like We're like
we got this, and we let her know and we're

(07:24):
like we're going down. It's getting real. And she's like, okay, boom,
I'm coming down. Got on the ferry with her kids.
Came well. Quinn's water broke the morning of the nineteenth
or the twentieth, so we check in the nineteenth wake
up her water breaks. I text Christina. Christina's like bam,
I'm on the way, and she gets there a few

(07:45):
hours later, takes the kids. Quinn's like, you know, she's
She's like, all right, I'm definitely contracting. Called the midwives.
Midwives come talk to her, set up the birth pool,
you know. They get that big inflatable, set it up
in the bedroom. She's been in the bathtub for for
most of the time now, So they set this pool

(08:05):
up and uh. Christina takes the kids and she's like
gotten a hotel, she's made. She's like, we're gonna go
to the trampoline park. We're gonna go do all the
ship and so I'm like, okay, I don't have to
worry about them, which is huge, an incredible gift to
wait off. So I'm focusing on Quinn. The midwives are
checking in and we're like, okay, let's let's get this

(08:28):
baby out, Like it can't be long now, you know,
contractions are getting stronger. I'm watching her like, really have
to go to that place, go to that place. Yeah,
you've seen it. Yeah, it's it's real deal. It's extremely impressive.
Oh my god. Yeah. And so she's doing this and
I'm like, I'm like, all right, we're like gotta be close.

(08:52):
But she's getting to that point where she's like, I
don't know how much longer I can do this, you know,
like I feel like I want to be done with this.
And I'm like, yeah, man, that probably means we're close. Yeah,
And that's like ten hours.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
In, you know. And then.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
And then she's you know, we're then we're at twelve hours,
and then we're like okay, like let's keep this moving.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And then you know, what are the midwives saying during this?
Were they where they can not always concerns kind of
a kind of a wild one, but like, yeah, what
were they saying? But just like oh this is normal,
You've got this, Like.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Basically yeah, they they kind of the sense that I
get is they judge their level of involvement based on
like the like how me and Quinn are doing. You know,
Like I imagine that some partners are less bonded. Maybe
some dudes don't know get out of like I imagine

(09:50):
it's dependent on the couple. But Quinn and I were
super soill. That was like the silver lining of the
whole process was like it was such a deep bonding
for us, know, to be for her to you know,
I've done some you know, like we have different levels
of We've been together for seventeen years, you know, so
like physical intimacy is not always our main priority.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Well, there's just those phases of relationships where like it's
not it's not always a honeymoon, it's not always a peak,
you know, it's like y like, yeah, it's a relationship
like like any other relationship, Like it needs constant work
and it's seldom always the ship, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And so the ability for her to find comfort and
solace in my physical proximity was like really here for
both of us. Yeah, So the midwives kind of just
stayed on the fringe, like they would check in, they
would check her her pulse, you know, her heart rate
every now and then they would doppler the baby, check

(10:53):
his heart rate, they would like refill the pool and
the hot with the hot water. And then like you know,
we're like twenty four hours in and they're like this
is not uncommon, Like it's you know, it's twenty four
to thirty.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Did she sleep at all during that twenty four hour
maybe pass out for.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Like a tiny bit here and there, Like all told,
she probably got an hour or so of sleep, but like, yeah,
you know, she's she's like contacting in it, you know,
So she's she's passing out when she can and then
waking up to go through another round and passing out
when she can, and and that goes on for you know,

(11:37):
probably at about twenty four hours, she's like I'm done,
Like I can't, I can't do this anymore. And I'm like,
you know you can, you are, you are doing it.
So whatever you're doing, just wait for that next wave
and ride it and then it's done. And like that's
one step closer to the baby, you know, and just
keep keep getting through that wave and knowing that it's

(11:57):
one step closer. So she like marshaled her resources and
found a new level of locking in and and then
then we hit like thirty six hours and it's like, okay,
this is like really long. Now. Yeah, you know, she's tired,
she's not eating much. I can't get her to eat much.

(12:18):
She like got these little protein balls and she's like,
fuck this this is gross.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Have some ice chips?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah right, and uh yeah, just trying to get her
to drink, trying to get her to eat little things
here and there, made her a castor oil smoothie. Yet
probably around thirty six hours because that's supposed to Yeah,
she fucking chugged that thing. It did nothing make a dent.
So we're like all right, you know, and and she's

(12:48):
hit two or three points of like I'm done. I
can't do this anymore. And like boom found another layer.
Boom found another layer. And I'm like, you know, I've
gotten a little more sleep than her at this point.
And I'm making sure, you know, her mom's there helping her.

(13:09):
Mom is like boiling pots of water and refreshing the pool.
And you know, at a certain point, we're in this
pool and I'm like, man, this is kind of gnarly.
Like she's got like blood and mucus and like it's
not a you know, she's peeing in there. This is
not a I don't like how this is feeling being
in this stew. Of they're taking pots out of the

(13:30):
pool and putting the fucking heater in the pot and
just like boiling this stew and then putting it back in.
I'm like, it's not cool, but I don't know, Like
I'm not a fun I don't know. And the midwives
are like, we can't. We don't want to check her
her dilation that much because her membranes ruptured the water broke,

(13:52):
so there's increased risk of infection, you know if we
check her a bunch. And I'm like whatever, like do
it you know, and Quinn's like do it please? Like
I want to know, and they're like, okay, what are
you going to do with this information? Like say you're
at say you're two, is that going to change how

(14:12):
you want to proceed? Like if versus if you're at eight,
And she's like, I don't know. I just want to know,
Like if I am at eight, then I'll feel better.
They're like, okay, but if you're at two, you're going
to feel worse and it doesn't matter because you could
go from two to eight very quickly. So she's like,
I just want to know. So they check her and
they check her in the pool and I'm.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Like, that seems infections odd. It's her, it's their deal, man.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's like they know and you know, and and we
just keep keep pushing on, man, and nothing is happening,
and people are checking in and my you know, co
my my seven year old is like at this point,
they've been away from us for a night plus, you know,
or two nights maybe, and like they're not away from
us that long. So he's calling me crying, you know,

(15:03):
he's like in in the bedroom, like he's just he's
he's like, I'm like, you know, we can talk him down,
and he's cool and and he's fine. He just wants
to touch in. But it's like, you know, I'm I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like, yeah, no, it hurts, man, because the little guy
they know what's they don't know what's going on, like,
but they know, you know what I mean, they know
something something big, and they know that they're separate.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, and that wasn't really our plan or planers like
have them around, yeah, but it just became like.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Too much, I mean, because yeah, you have them there
for thirty six hours and it's like, yo, guys, get
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, you know, they're like, what the fuck is Mom's
a zombie?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And uh And then on top of this, we're like
in this nice house, but like it's a it's a
fucking cul de sac suburb type vibe. So like the
neighbors are right here, yeah, and the midwife keeps opening
the window and Quinn's like screaming through these contractions and
I'm like, oh, yeah, dog, when does the neighbors call
the police or call the host? Like I'm sure they

(16:02):
know the host, And so I asked the midwife. I
was like, what's the protocol if neighbors if the police
show up? And they're like, we tell them we're having
a home birth and they can fuck off.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I was like, yes, perfect, great answer.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
And they're like and like, there's nothing in Airbnb contracts
about giving birth in the house yet, so yeah, there's
nothing they can really do. They'll they'll give you a
bad review for having a baby.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Maybe maybe if you leave a huge mess and don't
clean it up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
The midwives are like art like, we will like this
place will be spotless, like it's not gonna be a problem.
And I was like, okay, but that's that extra layer
of stress, you know, like and Quinn feels it too,
So she's like trying to hold back, and I'm like,
you don't hold back. Yeah, you scream. I'll deal with
whatever's going on. And then yeah, we get we get

(16:52):
to that forty you know, forty five, forty six, so
like probably are like forty three hours. She's I'm like,
let's get her out of the tub. Don't let her
get back in the tub. Like it's it's it's cozier
for her. But I think in the midwives are like, yeah,
I think it's I think it's I think comfort is
not what we want right now. I think we want
to lean into the discomfort and find that. Like they're like,

(17:13):
you need to squat down and put everything down to
your pelvis and like wait for that push response. And
like so she would, she would. She tried all the positions,
she tried everything. The push response never really came. She
found a position that she liked where I was because
like she we were, you know, we were trying to

(17:34):
walk her around and then she'd have a contraction. So
I would drop and like plank hold but on my
knees and my elbows, and like she would drape over
my back. So I'm like, A, I'm like an autumn,
you know. Yeah, and like she likes that position because
I'm there, she's close and she's not standing. So we
do that like walk and then get into that position

(17:56):
for from forty three to forty eight, you know, and
like I was fucking I mean, shout out CrossFit again.
I was like, there's nowhere my body could have done this.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
A and B.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I will not be the one to quit physically here
because she's been doing this for yeah. So I'm like
shake in, sweating, and I'm like trying to get into
like a ball and like my muscles are screaming and
all this, but like I'm like, we will do this
as long as we have to. And then the midwivet

(18:30):
are like, I don't know, man, you like I think
you're exhausted. Like they've been feeding her spoonfuls of honey
to get some energy, and like, you know, they're like,
I think, like you just need to sleep. I think
your body's exhausted. Like you can't really you're not getting
much more out of it because you're fucking wasted. Yeah,
So they're like try to try to lie down and
sleep and like you know, but of course.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
She can't sleep through these connections.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So like she's like at probably forty eight forty seven hours,
she's like it's like I'm I don't think I can
do anymore, Like I cannot continue this. And they're like,
baby's heart rate is starting to respond to your contractions,
which means that he's getting tired too, and so like
now would be a time where you guys talk about

(19:16):
the next step and what you want to do, and
they're like you can you know, it's it's not a
failure to go to the hospital, And like I'm in
that space of like we've we've come this far. Now
if we go to the hospital, it's.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Gonna be it's gonna feel like a failure.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's gonna it's gonna feel it's gonna feel like a
failure based on our plan. Yeah, it's gonna be another
fucking type of championship round. Like we'll have to go
sign the paper, be in the thing, get hooked up
to the stuff, deal with the providers, you know, like
the judgment and the suggestions, and like we know if
we go in that door, we're having a C section.
Like the midwife was like maybe they'll just give you

(19:56):
an epidural and let you sleep and then let you
push the baby out. And she was like, yeah, they
will and I was like, and they won't. And they
definitely won't.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, but we could try. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
So I like tried to remind her because one of
the things we'd agreed before was like She's like, don't
let me quit, you know, And I'm like, okay, man,
like I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hold you to that. That's my job.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah. So I'm like I'm like kind of giving her.
I'm like, this is not what we want to do. Man,
Like you're tired, and you're I understand you're exhausted, but like,
you know, push through, like get down and push this
kid out. And you know, she's like I cannot, I
can't do anymore. Yeah, And you know, I like looked

(20:36):
into her eyes. I was like, okay, you're yeah, I
believe you. Yeah, you know, and like now is the
point where we switched to switch gears. So I was like,
all right, bet, I'll go put the fucking layers of
blankets in the back of the expedition and we'll roll
you in there and and drive thirty minutes to the hospital.
So like be prepared that you're we're doing this now.

(20:59):
So oh we yeah, like get her in the in
the truck and she's she's found another level of contraction
because she's like knowing that there's something else. So she's
she's not even making a sound now, she's like.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
She's in there.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
She's in there.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, that's a wild moment when you see that, when
you see your partner go completely out of this world
where they're like, yo, they're you're not here, you're not
hearing me, you're not feeling anything, like yeah, it's yeah
again man, it's just a humbling thing. And then they're
just they're just chilling, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's it's incredible, incredible to be part of. So we
get to the hospital. The midwife calls ahead. The midwife's
like they might give you some ship because they don't
like this. But but we got there and they checked
us in with no attitude, Like there was no derision,

(21:55):
there was no scorn, there.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Was no judgment.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Judgment man good and like through out the whole thing,
everybody there shout out Providence, Everet, women and children, Pavilion.
I was like, I don't know if it's because like
maybe they're very religious, so like the compassion is like.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Or maybe they probably like it, you know what I mean,
because they're coming to save the day, you know what
I mean. It's like you guys tried this and now
we're going to come in and we're going to execute
the plan. You know. But but then also like people
that are in that business, like I think naturally are
more geared to being healers, right, Like especially when you

(22:38):
see you see a mother like in that zone, it's
like whatever you think or believe or like yeah, your
stance on whatever, like oh that shit goes out the window. Yeah,
I would hope ideally, you know, like I would hope
that you walk in there some like old crotchety old

(22:58):
bitches in there just like well, I'm glad the voo
dude didn't work. You know now you hear what you
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Like, bro, but that happens.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, there are people like that.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Why it kind of we noted like okay, everybody here
has been amazing. Yeah, so they were, Yeah, they were cool.
They hooked her up like and I'm like I'm dead,
Like I'm like I have to shut my eyes so
I don't even really remember past check in, Like they
they hooked her up and monitored her and they talked
to her about heart rate and this and that, and

(23:26):
I'm like, I'm passed out. I don't even like they
wake me up at some point because they're like, hey,
you know, the baby's heart rate is is his baseline
is going down, and like it's we're at the point
where we're worried about it and like you know, you
guys have this higher risk of infection and the longer

(23:48):
the membranes are ruptured, the more likely blah blah blah.
So Quinn's like, okay, like let's just you know, let's
get him out.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I was like, okay, fine, you know, like I know
what we're doing here.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, yeah you did. You you kind of saw that coming.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
There's just no other way. Yeah, there's no chance that
And it's and it's not it's not like malicious, it's
not just when you when you enter into that system.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
They will there's a timeline.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
They will tell you things very confidently that they believe,
and the things that they say all lead to an intervention,
and that intervention is surgery because there's too many risks
and unknowns involved in anything else, like they're like, well,
like this is what this means, and this is what
this means, and this is what this means, and this

(24:39):
is the end goal. And you know they're not they're
not wrong in their in their system. You know, like
that that is correct for them. And thank god we
have that ability to go.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Get there's your surgery done quickly.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
So so we we get her into into surgery. She
her body doesn't respond well to like pay meds and
different stuff. So she but she's like a she's a
medical professional, so she's and she's smarter than all of
those doctors anyway, so she knows what to say. Yeah,
she knows what to ask for. She's like, I need
I need the latted and I need an anti nausea

(25:15):
and I need the anti naja push now because once
I get the pain meds it'll be too late. Like
I don't want to be puking during this surgery like
I was with my last kid. And like, so she's
on point through all of this. You know, they get
her into surgery and zip them out, pull them up.
She's like, got this blood pressure cuff on right, the

(25:38):
big cuff that checks the blood pressure, and she's like
she's like this cuff is like absurdly tight, and they're like,
we have to monitor you. And she's like I know,
but it's like cutting off my circulation and they're like
we have to monitor you. So there, they pull the
baby out and I'm like cool, hand them to me,
and they got them over on the little table and
they're like I noticed their movements are getting a little.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
More like.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Serious, and I'm like okay, and I walk over there.
Quinn's like go over there. So I walk over there
and they're like he's not like he's he's breathing very shallowly.
We're like just trying to get him that cry response.
They're rubbing his little chest and they're holding his arms
up and they're sitting him up and patting him and
like that was probably like maybe six or seven minutes.

(26:24):
You know, it feels really long.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And they come out of a different color, like dark purple.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, they're fucking gnarly looking. And Quinn's over here. She
can't really see what's going on. So she's crying, like
what's wrong with it? And I'm just like he's fine, babe,
Like he's doing good. They're just they're they're doing their thing.
He's okay, we're gonna bring him to you as soon
as we can. And she's like, I can't feel my
fucking arms, Like if you hand me the baby, I cannot, like,

(26:51):
get this fucking cuff off me. And she doesn't. She
doesn't yell at nurses and doctors like she's very but
like she's like, get this fucking thing off me now.
And I'm like, I'm about to take.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
It off, yo. If you guys don't, I am.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'm taking this off if you don't. And they're like, okay,
we'll just put it on her leg. And I was like,
why don't you do that? Yeah, fifteen minutes ago. Yeah,
So they did, and she's, you know, she's feeling loopy
because the the you know, like she can feel the medicines.
She's like, I need you to fucking dial down whatever
you're doing back there because it's fucking me up. And
I need to hold this baby and try to feed

(27:27):
him so he like starts breathing better. They give him
to me, I give him to her, and uh yeah, boom.
It's like, you know, she she feeds him a little,
she calms down, they start closing her up. They give
him back to me, and you know, we had opted

(27:47):
for a zero, Like we're not doing the heel stick,
we're not doing blood work, we're not doing anything that
involves poking or stabbing the baby.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, we decline that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
So yeah, I took them and wheel her back into
the room after they sew her up, and she takes
them and she's you know, she's like a pro breastfeeder.
So baby latches quick bam and and they're off to
the races.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
And oh, that's kind of huge. That's probably gotta be huge.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
And there's that finally, that sigh of relief, like once
we're in the recovery room and the baby's eating. Because
during the surgery, I'm like, I never know. I'm like,
is Quinn gonna die from this surgery?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah? Maybe?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Like is the baby gonna die during this maybe?

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Well that's why they don't have the surgery. That's why
they don't deliver babies here on the island. From my
understanding is they don't have the they don't have the
capabilities to perform two life saving procedures. So they're just
like yo, yeah, go off, go off island. But that's real,
especially with that surgery. I mean anytime we're we've been,
so we just kind of assume that, like a pregnancy

(28:57):
is just like a sure thing, like oh, once we
get past the first trimester or semester trimester, it's just
all good. Where it's like, oh man, there's like an
infinite amount of things that can happen to both mom
and baby and like who knows, you know, and then
you start adding a human element into it, like you

(29:18):
were saying with with the intervention.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Like yeah, who knows are these surgeons?

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Were they all a Were they all A students when
they went to med school, you know what I mean?
Or do like are they hydrated and they have good
balance nutrition to so their brain is cognitively running at
a high speed to perform the surgery? Or did they
have a couple of drinks? You know what I mean.
Like there's all these things that like yeah, and you
kind of freak out about it as to dad, because

(29:47):
you have no control zero.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
So yeah, So I'm sitting there, I'm like, Okay, I
either lose mom and baby, or I lose mom or
I lose baby, yeah you know, or I get both.
And I'm like, you know, like, so as I'm holding baby,
I kind of have to let go of like, you know,
I'm like, Quinn is gonna pull through.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
This or not?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
As they're stitching her up and she's, you know, crying,
and I'm like I have to focus on this baby.
And then when Quinn's sewed up and looking all right,
I'm like, Okay, now I got to give this baby
to her so she can feed him and like they
can get that life yeah going, and then yeah, finally
that like relief of being in the recovery room. Everybody

(30:34):
can sleep. I don't even remember, like her parents came,
My parents came, my my bio mom and her husband came,
and like I barely remember it. I'm like drifting in
and out, you know, and ah, yeah, she's just she's.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
How long were you How long were you guys in
the at the hospital?

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Well we have to be in there forty eight hours
minimal after that surgery. So like my kids are like,
we didn't really plan them for C section because you
were so sure like we're not going to be doing that.
So there with Christina, and.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Are they at the airbnb that you guys? So they
got space, they got.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Room space Christina's hotel. I was like, you guys, go
to the AIRBN. We paid for that, so she's she's
holding it down. Koe is like Koe was melting like
he was he would as far as I could tell,
he was just in his bedroom like alone till two am,

(31:39):
crying because like and then when I talked to him,
he's like, I'm like, bro, are you okay? Like what
were you doing? And he was like, I was just
trying to talk to you. He's like I was saying,
like I would rather have a hundred infections than be
separated from you anymore, and like like where are you?
Please come get me? Like I don't want to be

(32:01):
you know, like and I'm just like I'm dying.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm like crying. Make me crist it, Yeah, dude. I
was like, man, your sweet boy.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I was like, you made it, you know, yeah, we
all made it. And you had to be resilient, you
had to be brave, you had to do all the
things that we talk about, and like you did it.
And the little guy was slightly more regulated, you know,
like he's he's facetiming us, like talking about like Christine's
not taking good care of us, Like as he's eating

(32:29):
a bowl of like warm mac and cheese watching his
little show. Yeah, like yeah, all right, dude, like, yeah,
we'll cut it out. We're almost done. And then you know,
we bring them to the hospital to meet baby and
see mama, and I go back to it. Like the
first night, I went back and like put him to
bed and then went back to the hospital and then yeah,

(32:51):
like just finally getting out of there and going home
to the Airbnb was like all right, this is fucking
we got this. You know, we can do this. And meanwhile,
Christina's made like food for a week and made like
prepackaged snack packs and like bought her a fucking she
went out and bought a recliner on Facebook Marketplace and
had her boyfriend like move it up into the bedroom

(33:12):
because she's like, you're not going to sleep on a.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Bed at Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, she got snacks, her comfy pajamas.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Shout out Christina, Christina, Christina. Yeah I met her, but
shout out her.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Man, that's awesome an incredible, Like Quinn and I were like,
I don't know that anyone's ever done anything this nice
for us that we can ever remember, Like I mean,
you know, family's family's family, but like, yeah, it was
just the different level, the level of competent support was
like holy shit, yeah this is and like Quinn's recovering

(33:46):
amazingly well and like who knows how much that had
to do with it, like her not having distress about
the kids.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And kids and man.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, and like we never had a meal train, you know,
so like some friends brought us food for rio, you know,
and like, but you know, to have like this this,
I mean, we got a meal train until like the
end of this month.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I'm like me and Sarah were hell of dumb when
we when we had sochi. It's like someone brought up
a meal chain. Was like, nah, yeah, we don't need that.
We got this ship, you know what I mean, Like
we don't want you know, it's okay. But then like
that first night came where someone like straight up and
we tried to dead drop it last night too. I like, yo,

(34:26):
just drop it off on the porch and bounce like
we're in the boys. We want to go, we want
to say. I was like, no, guys, we're running an
op right now. The op is don't get seen, don't
get heard, drop it on the porch, hit the text message.
All good, you know, like because dude, it helps man.
And that's where, like, and we talked about it a bunch,
is that community of those people that just like fucking

(34:49):
show up, man and help it so you and your
family and your wife can like kind of get reacclimated
to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, been huge, And like I mean, shout out all
of our friends who are amazing cooks. Like I mean,
you guys are another level. But like jewels, salmon berry
jewels set it up, and her food's always bomb. And
our friend Robin gave us some bomb stew and noodles
and fried rice. Oh yeah, Sophie gave it.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's like I mean, really, I'm like this feels almost
like I feel like slightly guilty about this because I
can fucking make food now, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Like I'm yeah, But it also it's important for you
as as Papa Bear to have a little bit of time,
right because like if you were to just like try
to pick up the slack for the things that Quinn
do at the house, then it's like your tank gets empty,
and then it's like you don't get to appreciate just
watching your family, you know what I mean, because you're

(35:48):
fucking doing the dishes and cooking and cleaning and do
you know what I mean, doing all the things that
like other people can do.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, you know, a tag team Yeah yeah yeah. And
coming back, you know, trying to get in the gym
as quick as I could. Felt good because my body,
I mean I was off for what two weeks, and
like eating like shit, yeah if I you know, I
did a lot of fast food, comfort food, like late
night like you know, endorphin food.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh yeah, you're off island. So it's like, yo, I'm
gonna hit this fuck.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Working out, yeah, fucking so the first and like and
and I guess I was, Oh. The other element to
this is like the Midwives like got COVID almost immediately,
and so they were like, you guys might have had
COVID this whole time. Yeah, And they're like, did you
feel bad? And I was like, I mean I felt
bad for a few days. Quinn didn't seem like Quinn

(36:42):
was already feeling away. So and the kid, you know,
like and they're like, well, you know, like what could
have happened because their original thought was maybe the baby
had been in a weird position and ruptured the membrane early,
you know, and like he wasn't really ready to come out,
but the water broke because like maybe he ground against
the hip bone or something, because when he came out,

(37:03):
his ear was all fucked up, like and Quinn, she's
like I can feel him. He's off center and he
keeps trying to drop in center and then like keeps going, Oh,
I don't know if there's some like scar tissue from
the previous ones that made her you know, like who
knows he was out of position And they're like, well,
another thing that could have happened is like when when
women have COVID during pregnancy or birth, like their body

(37:25):
is fighting this and so like you don't have any energy,
and like COVID can cause early early labor, COVID can
cause all sorts of weird complications with the fuck knows,
So like maybe that happened.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I don't know, did you get tested.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
For COVID, like because what's it gonna tell me? Yeah? Yeah,
So like they they were like, yeah, I mean that
was unusual that like you would be nine centimeters dilated
and having regular contractions and you weren't getting.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Like it wasn't is that what she was when you
guys got to.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Nine for like hell a long time? Yeah, like long enough,
there was like there should be any moment now, you know,
they can feel the baby's head like he's he's coming,
but like is he just he just felt like he
kept like clicking off center and then like trying to
drop in wasn't. Yeah, so and like it's funny when

(38:26):
you know Quinn when she's pregnant, she's like, I can
feel like his head is here, his butt's here, and
his fucking leg is stretched out into my lung. You know,
you feel him. And now that he's out and he's
doing the same like he likes to keep one leg
up and one leg out, She's like, that's the fucking
that's what that's what he's doing. So like if he
was doing that a lot, then like maybe he's just

(38:48):
sideways cocked and who knows, you know, but you know,
long story short, he's out, he's healthy, he's uh eating
a ton. He like you know, when they to come
and they talk about breastfeeding and all that, and they're like,
do you want toctation specialist? Do you want some formula?
And no, you know, luckily Quinn is like no, we

(39:09):
got this part.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Like this part we got Yeah, I'm a machine now.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, which is like such a huge blessing because we've
heard lots of horror stories about breastfeeding not being smooth
or is not working, and like to watch to be
able to watch her feed all that kid wants to
just feed for sure and sleep, And I'm like.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
That's it, that's life, man. And as a dad, that's
like the whole deal, man, Like, because we've had we
had the opposite way with essentially all all three of
our kids. Is like Sarah's really struggled with breastfeeding, Like
she's had to work really fucking hard to breastfeed, Like Cato,

(39:53):
it was a whole, that's a whole, that's a that's
a whole other conversation like for another time. But like
Remy was like, I mean, you gotta work for it,
you know. And as a as a dude, as a
you know, and it's like, yeah, as a fucking man,
like you don't I just assume, like, yo, breastweding's easy. Yeah,

(40:14):
you know what I mean, Like it's made for that.
It's like it's only purpose really is for that. But
then like you learn quickly like no, it's a skill,
Like it's a skill between mom and baby that they
have to develop, you know, and then it's like, yeah,
milk supply, and how does the environment impact when the

(40:36):
milk arrives and how frequently you know, my fat cap
on my milk is baba baba, all of these things
where it's like, yo, but that milk is made for
that baby, yeah, specifically, Like and then you get.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
That fucking magic biology of like when the baby latches,
some of the the milk because and saliva of the
baby is sucked back into the nipples or mom's body
knows what's going on, so mom's body can pump the right.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Hand and the DNA is in, you know, and like he's.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Rio had an eye infection at the blainehouse, so we're like,
get him some drops so he doesn't give it to
the baby. Of course he gave it to the baby. Uh,
And yeah we couldn't just in his eyes, rubbing it
on his little face and it works.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Yeah, it works man. Oh that's so cool man. Yeah,
that moment of watching watching your your wife feed your
child is like I wasn't ready for it to stop
with remy Yeah you know what I mean, because like
I would just I love it. You know. It's like
one of those things that just like prime Prime primarily
scratches an itch that like only that can It.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Feels so right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
It's like, yo, what they are at peace, They are
doing what they need to do. All I need to
do is stand here and make sure nothing happens to
him exactly. This is easy money here, you know, like, yeah,
it's so cool.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Oh yeah, how long did she nurse ren me?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
For? Three years? Man? Yea three years? And so she's
on it now, so shei I mean yeah, I mean
if Sarah could she breast me to like ten yeah right,
I mean she.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Well, culturally we're the only one of the only places
that they them off, you know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, because we got to a point where with Remy,
it was like okay, man, like he's three, he's like
asking for milk, you know what I mean, Like you
can like you're the dude, you know. But then it's
like naturally they're gonna not do it, you know what
I mean, Like you get to it, like you get

(42:44):
to an age where like the kids just like yo,
I'm not that's for babies and.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
If they're just doing it for comfort, like they'll eventually yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, I mean they totally would do it for comfort.
I mean even now, Sochi will like, I mean that's
how they breathe. I mean, that's there's no I mean,
they don't know that they're a separate unit from mom, right,
you know, it's just like part of the part of
the deal. Man. But yeah, the breast beaning thing's so crazy, Like, yeah,

(43:13):
the Midwives are a trip to man. I never you know,
with my older boy, my twins twins are O R.
So it's a surgery. You know. We were we were young,
and we went that whole Western medicine route. We didn't
I think there was another way, yeah, you know. And
then with Cato kind of the same thing. We just
kind of went with what I had known, you know,

(43:37):
and then like what Sarah had known from her parents.
And then we got up in there and it was like, yeah,
this is kind of weird, you know what I mean,
Like these people can't really answer the questions that we have.
You know, they would just show us graphs and data
and like things, and it's like, yeah, but where do
these come from? You know? Like because I just had

(44:00):
a conversation with our primary care out in Mount Vernon,
who super cool place. Mount Vernon Birthing Center. They were
showing the growth, the chart, the percentages of like yo,
you're blah blah blah. And I was like, where do
these numbers come from? Just cures, you know what I mean?
Not trying to like whatever, but like do these baby

(44:24):
percentages come from like international data or is it just
the United States? Like do you show the same amount
of concern for a baby who's in the ninety nine
percentile as you do for a baby who's maybe in
the five percentile, right, like maybe a small baby opposed
to like an abnormally obviously huge baby, Like is there

(44:46):
any concern for that or is it just like good
healthy baby on formula, you know what I mean. Like,
And it was interesting to talk to them because the
Mount Vernon one she could answer all the questions like
oh yeah, this comes and boom uh CDC who blah
blah blah blah blah. And I was like, okay, cool whatever.
When we would ask Cato these questions, Kato's at this

(45:09):
is that children's hospital in Seattle. Nothing, I mean, there
was no there was no answer to the question.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
It's like, well wait a second, what do we do?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Yeah, And it's like, well, you're telling me that, like
there's things wrong with my child, which then like obviously
is going to make mom feel a type of way.
But the baby's like all good, you know what I mean.
It was just some one of those moments where it's
like I.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Think it's saying, we have a healthy baby that's right
here in front of us.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, but you're telling me that, like there's something wrong
with it because he's not like a big dude, And.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
How does like and how does these how does how
does the information you're giving me impact the care plan
we're supposed to do for this? Like that was one
of the things Quinn kept saying. We went in because
we had to go back in because we didn't you know,
we didn't do any they he had high billy Ruben
so he that's when like jaundice, Like he's he's a
little yellow. His eyes are a little yellow and and

(46:10):
there's risk for that being a problem. So like we
had to go back in and get his billy Ruben
levels checked and each time they're like seems high, like
we should we should like draw his blood so we
know and we're like okay, like if you stick him
and draw his blood, like and his Billy Ruben levels
are high. Is that going to impact the care plan

(46:31):
differently or is the care plan still going to be
make sure he's nursing, make sure he's having diapers filled,
like make sure like try to get him some sun. Yeah,
And they're like no, and okay, We're like all right,
well then we're not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, we're not gonna there's no need.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
And so you know, Quinn was we just he kept eating,
took him outside in the sun for a little bit.
Levels were going the direction they wanted, and they're like okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, but then think about how many people don't ask
that question. Yeah, you know what I mean. They're just
like okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, people don't ask the questions for the vaccine schedule. Yeah.
I mean, so there's vitamin K, right, that's a shot
that we accepted, you know, because that has to do
with like brain bleeds, Like if he bunks his little head,
he's more susceptible to bleeding and having seizures. Like, so
we got vitamin K and his little thigh and like
the midwife did it at the house, Mom was nursing him.

(47:33):
He like barely even pinched. Yeah, you know, and like boom,
then that's like okay, we don't have to worry about.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Were they when when you birthed at Providence and Everett
and you told him like you know, we're gonna we're
gonna hold on on basically all of the vaccinations. Were
they cool about it? Pretty chill, just like okay.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
They did not give us any they they you know,
We're like like we we are opting out of the
traditional schedule, you know, and like and here's why, you know,
and like you know, I've said this before, I think
on the pod, but when Koe came, Quinn was deep

(48:15):
in the research, you know. I mean she's got access
to different stuff because she's a healthcare professional, but like
she was doing deep dives into the vaccine schedule for
kids and everything got her to the same answer, which was,
like the schedule is loaded like this because people are
less likely to come back consistently. So if we put

(48:38):
it all in one day and one appointment, then we
don't have to bother trying to get them to come
back and do them in succession. And that was the
only reason, like you know, and you got things like
at b like you know, baby's noting raves. You know,
he's not doing drugs, Like, yeah, it's just yeah, so

(48:59):
the schedule, we're like, we will amend this and we
will do the things that makes sense to us.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
That's cool though, that they're chill about it, you know
what I mean, because like there was a time where
I got mean, it's my personal experience where like it
it was not very chill, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's become it's become more socially acceptable that people are like, yo,

(49:28):
you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe hold off
on that, you know, because I think also that people
are a little bit more, a little bit more knowledgeable,
you know what I mean, Like with with the access
to essentially all of the data from the world out
there at your fingertip, Like you can make an informed
decision yourself, right, Like you don't have to go to

(49:49):
med school to like, yeah, learn all of that data,
especially now with chat GBT, you know.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, Like I'm but yeah, I'm an idiot, you know,
I'm fucking said. I go by my intuition, yeah, and
my instincts, and I'm not super intelligent, you know, whereas
I can trust that my wife is like if she
says something in this realm, I'm like, Okay, I know

(50:19):
that you have exhausted every possible search and analysis, and like,
you know, she's you're.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Just talking out of the side of your neck for
some like just to be contrarian of like, no, I'm
not doing that. Like there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, And not only is she super smart, she's fucking
anxiety and OCD. Like, so she's gonna make sure that
she is has all the information that assessment will be complete.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yeah, triple checked.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Triple checked, and like yeah, and so it's hard to
kind of do that stuff in the face of the system.
And back in the twenty twenties with real when it
was like you know that that COVID propaganda of like
you blindly have to trust what we're telling you and
you have to accept it and like if you ask

(51:10):
questions about it, you're a terrorist.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
That that shit doesn't work anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Yeah, Like, which is great, which I think is a
win for our our culture and society as a whole.
You know what I mean that more people are are
open to the idea that just because someone has has
spent more time in a certain field where it's like yo,

(51:35):
this is law, right, like you must do this, and
then you start exposing. You not exposing, but things start
coming out about the amount of amount of money that
is being made because of this, and people are like, yeah,
I don't I don't want to be a part of that,
especially when it comes to my baby. Yeah, you know
what I mean, my my baby that like has gone

(51:56):
through this like insanely miraculous. I mean it is a miracle,
Like the childbirth is a miracle, how it happens and
the development of it, and like it really is like
you know, we don't really know, you know, like we
we really don't. And then to all of a sudden
just be like, Okay, now that it's out, I know,

(52:19):
I know what's best for you and your baby and
your family. Were like oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, And it's about it's a balance of appreciating like
you know, I mean obviously without without fucking modern medicine
and surgeries and all the stuff, like I might not
have any kids or a wife.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Yeah, So like.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
To I think the difference from a few years ago
was like we're not going to be painted as like
anti science, anti medicine, anti you know. It's just like
I have questions, man, yeah. And my questions are based
on pattern recognition and thirty plus years of seeing exactly

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how the government operates. And you know, like is there
a lot of money involved? Yes? Should that inform how
we're accepting the information? I think so, you know, and
like we fucking we beat this horse to death. Yeah,
it really, and.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
As we should, I will go I will go on
record that as we should, that we should not forget
the bullshit and all the fucking nonsense that you people
told us that we're skeptical about the COVID vaccine. I'll
never forget that ship you may want us too, but
I'm gonna keep it real and I'll never forget. And
people need to talk about it because legitimately, all of
you people, and I'm gonna say this to to anyone

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that was in the government, Democratic or Republican, fuck you,
the people that stood by either side, leave me alone.
I won't say fuck you because you're a human too,
and people do. People do wild shit when they're scared.
I have empathy for you, know that. Like I'm never
going to forget that you wanted me to eat outside
with my family because we didn't have paperwork to come

(54:05):
inside and eat with y'all.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Right, So not only that, but you called us fucking
you know, you called us terrorists. Yeah you know, you
said we were killers. Yeah you know, like yeah, it's
it goes deep, it goes real deep. And no, we
will not forget that. Yeah, And it's funny now to
see the same people who are doing that up in

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arms about like fight tyranny and fight fascism and fight
the king blah blah blah, and it's like, okay, cool.
You guys immediately folded under the last decree, you know
what I mean. And you guys immediately became foot soldiers
for the empire. Yeah, you know, and like you didn't
even think twice about it. You cut off family, you
cut off friends. You fucking good luck, good luck.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
All that being said, all that.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Being said, yeah, shout out the surgeons, extremely capable team
of I think it was all women too in that
surgery room who were competent and kind and knowledgeable, and
they crushed it. And I have a healthy baby and
my wife because people are read recovering.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
People are bad man, and they're and they're gonna do
They're gonna do the best. For the most part, you
especially high achievers that are like people in that field.
They want to do a good job. They don't want
to just go to work and and and be some
fucking shlub.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Individual. Totally, us are usually solid.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, you just do what you're told.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
The system is nefarious. The system takes on a life
of its own, and its first priority is self containment.
You know, like I fucking I feel like I've said
this before also and I'll say it again. I joined
a frat in college. It was based on activism and

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like racial equality, and you know, we were like rah
rah activism. And then as soon as the university stopped
fighting against us and said, okay, we'll recognize you as
a proper organization, we'll give you a house on campus,
we'll give you all the all the same treatment as
the Greeks, We're like, dope, we won. But then immediately

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the first priority of the organization as well, let's not
we can't do this because they'll take away the house
or they'll take away the charter. We can't. We have
to get all these like the rules. We have to
play by the rules. Yeah, our our our brothers are
telling us, like your mission is to fucking pick a
like a rebel activist and like get the quotes that

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mean something to you, that are relevant to society and
print those out and post them up so people can
be aware and learn. But then like first you got
to go get them stamped by the like student body,
like to let them know that you're okay to put stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, make sure it's make sure it's an approved quote.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I never got a stamped or approved.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
This is the rilla market in here.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Antithesism, we're talking exactly. But that's just becomes like without
you know, because if then it's like okay, they'll take
the charter and they'll take the house, so.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
What Yeah, then we're then we're back here.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Back being people who stand for something.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Yeah, which is what we want to be, which is
what we want to be, which is a goal. Oh yeah, man,
well it's I don't know, that's we'll just keep rambling
on about this if we had time, you know what
I mean. But it's good, man. I just I wanted
to get together because like it's been a minute, dude,
and like I'm excited to meet little Felix.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Come to bring them to the gym, man, I will.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Yeah, I keep thinking I am and I'm like, you know,
I was up. We were up four to whatever five
point thirty today and I'm like, we alarm is about
to go off in half an hour and I'm not gonna.
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, that's a wrap not doing it.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
But you know, uh, maybe I go to the four
thirty now maybe Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Oh the nine o'clock is a hot one that's heard.
The nine o'clock's a fun one.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Man.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
We Uh, I coach with a baby in on that
one too most of the time, man, you know either
so she comes in so because Sarah will do the nine. Yeah,
on occasion, I'll do the nine and oh yeah, man,
I'll hold babies all you know.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yeah, you're holding young young.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
That's all day. Yeah. Shout out Lizzie Meyer for coming
through the CrossFit with via Maria Michaelson man who like
she she has really jumped in both feet man to
this CrossFit thing. Man. Yeah, it's rad, dude. And now
Lizzie's like I think she's been every day. This is
her third week of every day, you know. And it's

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fun with her because she's she's postpartum. So like for
me as a coach, it's like I gotta I gotta
do a little tinkering, you know what I mean, because
she can't I wants they can't. She physically could do
a lot of the movements, but as a boy that
needs to be rebuilt internally, we have to make adjustments.
And so it's fun to, like, you know, really like

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I talk with Sarah about it, because she's been on
this like three phase fucking twelve week postpartum pregnancy training
cycle to like rebuild the innerds, you know what I mean,
and like and so it's like, yo, Sarah, what do
I What can I mob this out for? Like why
why would I do this? Why would I do? You

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know what I mean? Because like she knows why more
than I do about that. I mean, I've got some
train you know, training in it in a sense of
like I know what certain muscle groups do and blah
blah blah buth like when it comes to the female
body recovering after a birth, Yeah, no, idea, yea, no,
you know what I mean. And so like that part
has been fun to to kind of hit up on

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her of like, well, what can Lizzy do here? And
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Like, yeah, yeah, but yeah, shut out the moms man.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah, it's because what's up here? Just real quick? Anything?
What you got going on here at the gallery?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, it's July. I came back and scrambled to get
with Gretchen and Allison to open her show on the
fourth because the first Friday fell on the fourth. So
we hung Gretchen's work and I opened like four to
seven on the fourth of July and had a ton
more people than I expected, mostly tourists I think, just

(01:00:25):
from walking around. But the feedback was great. Gretchen is
an awesome painter, she's a local, and her work's gonna
hang July. And then I gotta figure out. Of course,
I wrote down on a piece of paper my show
schedule and then lost that paper before I took a

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picture of it with my fucking pocket computer. So I'm like,
what was August again?

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Because August, Yeah, July, August, September is when the collector
base returns and the tourism is high, so I kind
of gotta be in here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
You gotta have some things happening.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
I gotta make it happen. Still operating the iv LC,
the poetry nonprofit, We've got some dope. Actually, we're having
a meeting in here tonight to like touch base about
you know, we got an arts wall grant. We got
in touch with the new Washington state poet. Laureate's gonna
come out and do a thing with us at the
end of September. We're gonna link him with the schools.

(01:01:27):
We got a local showcase we need to tie in.
We've got a piece of this arts music festival over
on Lopez. I was telling you, yeah, yeah, big festival.
It's called Resonation. We're supporting the Beer Garden, so it's
kind of a fundraiser for us, and we'll be doing

(01:01:49):
some spoken word on the stages. My band will be playing.
Mud Bath will be playing Rare Bird Committee.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
You know I saw at the parade shout out Mudbath.
I've never I haven't heard I know Trinity from the
gym and just around town, I've never heard. I've never
heard them play Yopstars. Yeah for real? Like that was
that was such a that was so cool to see

(01:02:16):
because it was just this is her up there with
the guitar. She had the sugar skull painted face on,
and they had the big wings going and oh bro,
that ship was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
So dopey, shout out hating on the drums and my
boy Jimmy Adams on the base. Oh that look cool.
That float is the coolest one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yeah, is that their float? Where did they?

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
That's the pirate float that's in there every year. That's
run by Michael and Rowe. I think her name is
Winter Rose Siebert. Really dope couple, super like artist creator,
burning man type.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I thought that was an alchemy thing. I was like, no,
that's Michael and of Alchemy. If you don't have anything
going on, you should have a float in the parade.
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I'm surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I don't. Yeah, you know, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
They just bought that little bus you can turn the show.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah man, And they just bought that fucking farm. You know.
Like so if you got nothing going on, Maria, why
don't you, yeah, add that to the plate for next
year to get a float going on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Well, let me get my little teeny van, my Japanese
van fixed up and I can be the alchemy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
And dude, you gotta what did I see? You got?
You and Gee are doing doing a show at Tenth House.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Not Gee? Uh uh katana boy? Okay, Yeah, I mean
if he's around, he's he's always well, just Eddie's out
of town my drum So Brandon Katana Boy, who is
a DJ, but then he drums for Shadow Basket. He's
putting on Tenth House's two year anniversary Part twelfth, so
live music. Yeah, yeah, shout out this weekend, Shout out

(01:03:46):
this weekend. Yeah, shout out Nicole in tenth House. But yeah,
so Eddie's out of town. But Brandon was like, because
he had hit me up, he was like this open eye,
want to play. I was like, of course. And then
I was like, Eddie's out of town, we can't do it,
and he's like, well, I can drum. I'm a drummer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I was like, oh all right, Well then dope. So
you're gonna be You're gonna be at that, not at
that six o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
If Peter's around, he'll play piano. I haven't. I don't
think I've even talked to him about it, so it
might just be beats and samples and rhymes. And then
Depth one seventy five is a DJ from Seattle who
comes up and plays with Brendan and he's dope. And
then Old Man of the Woods is headlining and she's awesome.
She came up and played last summer. She's like, A,

(01:04:30):
I don't I'm not really good with those genre names.
But maybe she's like goth electro.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Some ship. Yeah, I don't even know, dude, I just
it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, she's she's got a she's got a vibe, and
she's she's dope. And then who else is playing? There's
there's kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
A there's kind of a list man. Yeah, there's like
there's like five or six like bands, groups, people perform,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Yeah, well shout out check out that. That'll be the twelfth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Yeah, it'll be fun. There's ship happening around town, dude. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
And then July twenty fifth, I've got a the Nathaniel
Talbot Trio playing in here. He's like American folk, kind
of pop infusion, different, super super great musicians. I checked
out some of their stuff. Give them a Spotify Nathaniel Talbot.
They're coming up and playing in the Gallery of the
twenty fifth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, I see you got to set up in here, man.
It Uh, that's turn it into a little let's turn
it into a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, yeah, we'll open mic set up. I didn't want
to bother breaking down. Keep it up man, Yeah, yeah,
well we'll do it till we do it surely. Man boom,
we're at a minute in five or an hour and five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Oh yeah, we're gonna keep it ship man. Any anything else?
N not?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Well let me see, No, I don't think so. Rent
the gallery space for a party, higher the bartending services
for a party.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Uh yeah, Come do CrossFit, do cross come to the gym,
come do jiujitsu. Oh yeah, that's uh you see.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, I've been I've been doing it pretty regularly and
it's fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
And they're expanding. Yeah, Adam days, Yeah more than it'll be.
It should be pretty sick.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
He's a good he's a good teacher. The kids that
it's like mostly young kids. It's me and a couple
of older dudes and we stick together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Yeah, stay stay in the shallows, put it on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
We'll put it on the young us if they call
us out. But other than that, I'm trying to stay uninjured.
But he's been doing this like tournament bracket style, so
like you just go against whoever, and that's been really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Cool man. Well, shout out the dad pod, welcome back,
and yeah, until next time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Let's go

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
The