Bonus Episode: Interview with Orphan Prodigy

Today I had the honor of interviewing Orphan Prodigy, and the conversation left me so inspired. We dove into what it really takes to build a music career today, and at the core of it all was one thing: connection.

We talked about the power of virtual streaming and how it allows artists to reach fans across the world from the comfort of their home. For Orphan Prodigy, it’s not just about putting on a show — it’s about creating experiences that break through borders and bring people together.They also emphasized the importance of building the right team. Having people around you who truly get your vision and support your journey makes all the difference. It’s something I see over and over again with artists — the right collaborators can elevate everything.

One of my favorite parts of our talk was about the role of PR. It’s not just about getting press for the sake of it — it’s about credibility, awareness, and storytelling.  They shared such a beautiful example of a fan in Germany who discovered them through an article in Brazil and later joined one of their live streams. That’s the ripple effect of good PR — it travels further than you think.

We also got into how powerful it is to think about the angles behind your story. It’s not enough to say, “here’s my new song” — the deeper meaning matters. We touched on themes like mental health, and it was a reminder of how music can heal, connect, and resonate in ways beyond just sound.

Another key point was the importance of relationships — with fans, with collaborators, with your audience at large. People don’t just want music, they want to feel part of your journey. That’s where things like Patreon and subscriptions come in. They allow artists to give their biggest supporters something special while building sustainable careers.

Finally, we talked about the role of analytics — looking at what’s working, what isn’t, and using that insight to grow smarter and stronger. Creativity is the heartbeat, but strategy is the structure that keeps it moving forward.

Walking away from this interview, I felt so inspired by Orphan Prodigy’s journey. They’re proof that success today isn’t just about talent — it’s about story, community, and consistency. When you combine strategy with authenticity, you create something truly unforgettable.

 If you’re an artist ready to define your story, grow your audience, and take your career to the next level, I’d love to support you. You can book a call with me to explore how we can work together. And if you haven’t yet, go check out my full interview with Orphan Prodigy — you don’t want to miss this one!

https://calendly.com/danifeltcall/discovery-call?

Learn about Orphan Prodigy here: https://orphanprodigy.com/

Watch the full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUCs7EU46yY

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:32):
It is live. Yes, this is so exciting. This is
my first I think my first interview I've ever done live,
so this is kind of cool. Welcome to the Danny
Felt Interview Show today. I'm going to bring on Ripen Prodigy.
They're an amazing rock band. I'm super excited for you
guys to meet them, and here we go. Yes, I

(00:56):
think it's live.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Let me see you are live.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I can see comments. Okay, cool, okay, awesome. Great. Does
it show on Facebook that it's live.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I would think it would be if it's going to your.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Page, so it should be working.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
As long as yeah. Cool, good sign.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I'll just have to keep checking the chat to see
people are showing up. But I know it's like weird time,
so I'll get Okay, let's get started. So hi everyone.
My name is Danny Felt, CEO and founder, Music Industry
Mastery PR, branding and marketing agency for creatives and small businesses.

(01:48):
I'm here today with the incredible Orphan Prodigy, husband and
wife Duo Ian and Danielle Keller. I've been working with
them as their publosist, helping share their story, their music,
and even brainstorming ideas for their Patreon. So i wanted
to hop on live and chat with them about their
journey and all the exciting things happening. So welcome to

(02:10):
this show or fan Prodigy.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Thank thanks for having us.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, hello, hello.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Absolutely so yeah, for those of you who don't know
about Orphan Prodigy, tell everyone a little bit about yourselves
and your music.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah. So we're an electronic rock duo from Queens, New York,
Long Island, Ish and we're now based in Connecticut as
of two years ago. So yeah, the whole thing came
about during the pandemic. I started writing stuff. I had

(02:47):
a previous rock band and that kind of went on
a hiatus in twenty nineteen and the pandemic hit, and yeah,
there wasn't much touring to be done, so I had
to find a way to, you know, start start playing again.
And so I started doing these live streams in Danielle's cottage,

(03:08):
and you know, just it was just it just kind
of built from there. Like it started with just me
and an acoustic guitar, and then I started writing songs
for the album and I'd use backing tracks and incorporate that,
and it just slowly built from there and now we
have like a giant soundstage in the basement.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah. It started off as Ian's Passion project, and you know,
out of necessity to continue work during the pandemic, it
became more of a home bass and our home base
turned into a studio and I've been helping sort of

(03:47):
in the background, doing some things. And one day he's like,
why don't we just bring you up front, put you
in the put you in the band. And I was like, okay,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah. It was just like, yeah, we're in the band
now and we have a show coming up. And their
first show was in Brooklyn.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah. Yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
So that's awesome. Shout out to New York. I know,
that's where we met, Like New York. It was like
so long ago.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I met you at some event some some some.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Like like book launch party.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
No, it was no, because I was I was involved.
I was involved with kind of like an open mic
type person and she kind of facilitated all these like
like networking events. So it was one of those events
that we met.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Cool. I know, I used to do open mic networking events.
I was like, was it the events?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
It was like something like that, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, it was so long ago. It's so funny how
like you meet people like years ago and then you
still like reconnect like years later. I've had that with
so many people, even in LA. Like there's all all
these people that I've met in New York and I'm
like still in touch with to this day. So it's
like the relationships are so important these days in the
music industry and with just everything we do. So yeah,

(05:12):
that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's funny. It's funny how like you know the people
that stick around for it and the people that are
really passionate about it, like you know, ten years later,
fifteen years later, whatever, you know. That's that's how you
know who's in it for the long haul and stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And so like you, I mean, you have fans dating
back to you know, when you started.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we're very fortunate to have
people that leave in us and you know, working with
working with you Danny has been tremendous as of this year,
I mean in just you know, five or I think
it's like five months. We've been working together six months
since March, right, so not that long when you really
think about it, and like since launched the album in April,

(05:59):
and like I think about it, sometimes I'm like, wow,
it feels like we've done like a year or two,
like a full album cycle worth of promotions and stuff,
and like it hasn't been that long. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, And it's interesting we've been focused on like one
single for like months. You know a lot of artists
like they release like a single every four to six weeks,
but no, we've been like promoting Trader for like months
and months and months. But it's like also when you're
indie artists, like there's always like something new, Like the
song's always new to someone, so it's like there's always

(06:34):
another audience to like explore the music with, so it's
never really old anyway.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that's the cool thing about being an indie
artist is you don't have to follow the same structure
as you know, a mainstream you know, calendar type thing
where it's like yeah, like you know, the three months
from now, we're gonna have this single. Three months the
single and touring It is like, you know, it's a
very different kind of way of operating, and I like
that freedom. You know, we pushed the material that is

(07:02):
resonating with people, and like you said before, like you know,
it catches on you know, it might hit somebody in Europe,
you know, three three months later or whatever. You know,
so it's really just about you know, building on the momentum.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, it's also so cool. You guys have built like
a virtual audience, like virtual fans like all over the world,
and like are doing all these live streaming shows and
like making a living doing that. I think that's so cool.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, it's been like a long art not our duist process,
but like you know, kind of it's just been natural.
It's been very like, you know, everything's with this project.
There's been like baby steps, and you know, the pandemic
I think really, as as terrible as it was for
a lot of people, for you and I, it was

(07:55):
like it was really fun. It was just like a
never ending sleep over and we just kind of created
and eights and had margarite.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
A little bit of the personal side.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
That's when we really started dating. Actually, the pandemic was
year two, so we you know, we were we were quarantined, right,
I mean at that time it was a sleepover. Like
Ian basically moved in with me and we you know,
we're just sort of hold up, Yeah, we were, we

(08:31):
were hold up. You were not homeless. I mean we
we were comfy. We had my three cats at the time.
We you know, he introduced me to to cod which
is a huge part of our life. Now Yeah, sorry,
I'm sorry, right, is that a pet?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Like I just have no idea that a gamer.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Could have been but yeah, but that was that was
back when you could like walk up to main stream,
we get like a pint of your like favorite frozen
dackery and you know, not just to go and you know,
walk home and again like out of necessity, my job
became you know telehealth you were doing.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, I was building or from prodect.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Building proget from the house.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I didn't even I didn't. I don't think when I
started streaming, I wasn't even streaming as or from Prodigy.
I didn't develop that name until a few months later.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, well you I don't think you released it because
I know exactly when you came up with it, but
it didn't really Again, like this was born out of
a passion project that we could not had no idea
where we would go with it. And I think we've
been really blessed with with how far it's it's come.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
We are and you know, Danny used, you use the
word manifests a lot, and I think that you know,
this has been you know, and as you said, as
as you said, it's like, you know, it's been a
passion project. And I think the most you know the
projects and you know, whether it's whether it's acting, it's
music or whatever it is, I think the you know,

(10:10):
the more passionate you are about something, the more you
manifest energy around that project, and the more you don't
you don't treat it as a job. Like I've never
treated or from Prodigy as a job. It's always been
just fun. And whereas my other band, it was always
just like pulling teeth with you know, whether it was
with the other members or with the studio with the producer.

(10:31):
You know, it's just like crazy, crazy hours, you know,
you know, playing six six nights a week or on
the road. You know, it's just nuts. But now like
you know, being like in our thirties, it's it's just
much like it's just much more on our terms. And
that's what this whole project is about, is just doing

(10:52):
it like our way, on our terms, making the music
as good as possible and as just just just as
much us as possible, I think.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, I mean it's so important with like being creative
to do what aligns with you and to work with
people that also align with you. And like, I think
the best part about being like an indie artist is
that you can just like have total creative freedom to

(11:25):
do what you want. You know, like you choose your hours,
and you choose your rates, and you choose what you
want to do, and you choose who you want to
who your who you want your fans to be, and
you know, of course you have to resonate with like
who you are, but it's just all about alignment. Aligning
with team, aligning with the right people, aligning with the
right vision, like all.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Of that absolutely, I mean, alignment is the key word,
I think. And I also think as an indie artist,
there's a responsibility to push the boundaries of things. I
think with Orphan Prodigy, know, I really wanted to marry
dance and rock, like really really obviously, and yeah it's

(12:07):
been you know, there's like bands like Franz Ferdinand, like
very guitar driven bands that kind of go into that territory.
Moby goes into that territory. But but for me, like
there's never been like a band that's really kind of
just put like dance beats with like soundscape hard rock,

(12:27):
you know, And I really really wanted to be psychedelic,
you know, rock whatever. I really wanted to make an
album that was like dance rock, and I feel like
we achieved that with this record.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Oh yeah, it's very dance rock. It's so catchy, like
I love it. Like it also makes you think of
like all the like emo pop bands I listened to
and like high school and stuff. You know, it's like
that passion, Like I feel like that's not as present
these days with music or modern music, Like I dis
missed like the passion, and like in your music video

(13:02):
for Trader, like there's just so much passion even like
feel the emotions and like what you're saying and like
it's just so powerful and authentic and awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, that was a fun one to make. Daniel's been
She's been there from day one with the video part
of Orphan Prodigy. You know, she was there for Getaway,
she was there for Trader, and then we have another
single coming out called Deep Bass in November, and yeah,
I don't know I even think I don't think we've

(13:35):
had that conversation.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I know it's funny, but.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, yeah, I used to trader, but yeah, I know
it's funny because when we're editing the videos because Danielle
wasn't in the first two, but I always we brought
the footage back, she was there on set and she
was there like saying this. You know, she's very omni
present in the room, very fly on the wall and
saying no, that has to be redone or I'm not

(14:04):
shy to no, like the editing, like I dread. I
dread I dread editing videos because she's always right and
like there are some times where you can't go back
and reshoot things and it's just like you have to
work with what you have. But like she's not shy
to say like no, like like no, fuck that that's awful,

(14:26):
and like like or like.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
You'll make an edit right and then like you ask
for the edit and it comes back and like something else,
something else is like missing that was there and you're
like wait a minute, like why is that gone? That
was that was part of it? What happened there? Yeah,
So there's it's been fun and for me, it's been fun.
This is like my my first exposure ever my first

(14:51):
and only exposure to you know, this, this industry. So
I get to live I pariously, you know, through Ian
and and out being a part of or from Prodigy.
I think, you know, like we said, it's just made
sense for me to kind of come to the forefront
with it. But I've I've grown up around music, and
music's been like something I don't I don't know how

(15:16):
to describe it. Like my my father was a deadhead.
So for me, from like when I was very little,
I grew up around music and good music and exposure
and festivals and shows and concerts. So it's it's been
part of my life forever. I actually, I think this
is kind of cute. My little cousin when we first

(15:38):
started dating, was like, it makes so much sense that
you're dating a musician, and she was she was so right,
And so here we are and I love it. I
love being able to like give my my you know, opinion,
and and see it hit with so many people behind
the scenes and then and then see it come to

(15:59):
fruition and on camera on screen. Is it's it's very cool,
very cool.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think, no, sorry, you go no, no, I was
just going to say, you're always kind of there and
like it, you know, just circling back. You know, I'm
just repeating myself, but like you you really were always
kind of there in the background, whether it was the branding,
you know, just kind of even going back to the

(16:25):
editing stuff, like you're always there in some fashion. You know.
It was like designing the stickers or figuring out the
logo with me and stuff like that with merch and
like the ideas that are on that. You know, she
was always there, so just always. It was just like
and we're best friends, so it's like it's just like,
of course I want my best friend in the bands, you.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Know, yeah, of course. And I'm sure it's like so
hopeful having that perspective and like just like sometimes artists
just want to be creative and they need that person
that can like be the logical one and like the
detail oriented.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
One and like yeah, yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, Okay, let's see. I'm like, I feel like we
skipped around a little bit, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I find the best conversations are the natural ones.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
That's yeah. This is my first time, so I'm like
I'm so used to being on the other side, so
it's interesting it goes by. I can't believe it's been
like seventeen minutes. I'm like, we had one question, so shit, sorry, Welcome.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
To the Orphan Pragy format.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
So since I started working with you on pr it's
been very exciting to see your music and your story
reach a lot more people. What's been the most surprising
or exciting moment for you so far?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Oh, I think it just happened for me personally last night,
because it's you know, it's a lot of these things happen,
and they all feel like, you know, pieces of a puzzle,
like you know, like when we hit the chart numbers,
it felt like, Okay, that's great, that's like that's moving,
that's like, you know, there's can there's like you know,

(18:13):
it's a big deal, and it's it's it's hard because
there's so much happening and there's still I'm still performing,
you know, seven shows in a day and stuff like
that virtually, so like you know, or more whatever, you know,
but like there's just so many parts to the to
the puzzle of of being a musician and making it
your living, and so like when the charting stuff started happening,

(18:37):
like that's a big deal. It's like but again it
feels like, yes, it's just another piece of the puzzle.
It's like we're playing a gig to promote the song
and then that, you know, vice versa. But yesterday I
feel like, you know, I got reached out to you
by an editor from from Wikipedia, and that was a
big deal. Yeah. Like I felt like like in my

(19:00):
twenties in my first apartment when I was just struggling,
I didn't have any money, I was like I couldn't
afford food. I could, I could, like the electricity would
go off, you know. It was just it was just
a bad time. But I always was.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
I was.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I was obsessed with like the idea that musicians, my
heroes had these Wikipedia pages like, and so I'd just
be on them constantly and just seeing what age they
were when they did this or that and without you know,
what album came out when they were, how old whatever.
And so I finally feel like like that's it's come

(19:37):
full circle and I can actually just like see like
my entire career on one page, and it's just really
it's really just like whoa, Like, you know, it just
like going back to my childhood and how I was,
you know, raised and all that stuff, and just from
this like completely neutral perspective, it's really really it's like

(19:58):
it's like a breathing moment. It's like a okay, like
I can breathe and wow, this is what I've accomplished.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, it's also like a you made it moment, you know,
and like it's it's no. It's funny though, because I
think you made it in twenty twenty five is so
different ten years ago, right, Like we're talking about Wikipedia
at the Internet, Like the facets are different, right, So

(20:27):
a Wikipedia page is a big deal. I mean like,
oh yeah, everybody googles and goes to Wikipedia and that's
how you find out the information. So it is a
big moment, you know. I know he doesn't want to
say it, but like, yeah, it's a it's a you
made it moment, like when you can google yourself and
like you know, here you are, You're you know, no.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I'm proud of It's like it's really absolutely you know,
I really do. It's like the one That's what I'm
trying to say, is like it's it's the it's the
moment throughout this whole process since we launched the record
that I feel like, Wow, like I really did a
lot in my life. You know, it's like it's it's
cool to see it all on one page like a
resume almost, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I also think like since we've you know, been working
with you, Danny too, like these last six months, and
I think what you were saying earlier, like they feel
so long because that we've squshed so much stuff into
these last six months. We've done so much and we've
grown so much over these just by working with you

(21:32):
in all this exposure that we've gotten and climbing the charts.
I mean, like all this is like really big, and
it's been.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
It's hard to like it's hard to fit it into
your brain at times, you know, it's hard to understand
the scope of it all. But yeah, like Danielle said,
I mean working with you has been tremendous and squeezing
so much content through the interviews, through the podcast, through
the know just through all the opportunities that you know,

(22:02):
the charting, just just everything. You know, like every day
there's another article or a playlist or you know whatever.
It's just it's just been so it's you know, it's
gotten to the point where I can't keep track of
it and she can't keep track of it. We can't
keep track of it. And it's just like, Okay, you
gotta just you gotta just take you gotta you gotta
just take care of it for us, you know, because I.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Swear I wanted to keep like like like a buying
like I grew up in this era where I like
tangible things, right, I wanted to do a binder of
all the interviews, and I'm like, I can't keep up.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, we can't keep up anymore, like shut.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Them all out or find them all It's so funny,
but that's but that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's a good thing to have and and it speaks
to Dan and you know, I want to, you know,
I just want to, you know, give Danny props and
just you know, say, like go back to giving artists
advice and just say, you know, you need to find
people that believe in what they're what you're doing, and
people who support your vision and have the resources like

(23:06):
like you, Danny, to facilitate that vision and get it
to the places it needs to be. And without that,
I mean, you could have the greatest song in the world,
or the greatest album in the world or whatever. But
without the right help and the right support, the right people,
the right publicists, you know, it could be dead in

(23:27):
the water.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know, thank you guys so much. That's so nice
of you guys. I love working with you guys too,
because you guys are such easy clients to work with. Try,
Like I always say, like I want to work with
artists that are really talented, but also like do the work.

(23:48):
You know, you guys are live streaming like all the time.
You guys are constantly building your fan base. It's not
like you're just hiring me to do pr and you're
just like sitting there and doing nothing, you know what
I mean. Like it's such a team effort when it
comes to like being an artist is day and age,
Like you have to post on social media and connect
with your fans and send email us out and it's

(24:10):
it's such a team process. So you guys make my
job so much easier by showing up to the interviews
on time and like, you know, not being like, oh
this is a small interview. I don't want to be
on this one. It's like not a million people. You know,
you guys are just such humble and appreciative clients that
just makes it so much easier.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, I mean, I would never. I think it's also
you know, just going back to that indie mentality of
like just why say no. It's exciting, it's fun, it's
it's promoting, it helps everybody. It's about getting the message across,
you know, Like I don't I don't really know how
to say no. We're people pleasers.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
I'm recovering people pleaser, but I'll not identify as to
people pleaser recovering.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like, yeah, at some point we need to get on
your level. We need to manifest that.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Oh my gosh. Okay, So tell tell everyone, like more
about your story, you know, as orphan prodigy, Like how
the name orphan prodigy? What does it mean? What do
you stand for? What do you believe? Like just talk
about your overall brand.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, so I think you know orphan prodigies. You know.
I I'm adopted. So I've I've kind of had a
very unique experience when I you know, when I talk
to people, they you know, it's just a very different
experience that comes across that I've had from other people. Yeah,
And and I think I've always kind of, you know,

(25:40):
as a kid, I embraced the idea that I was
different and that I was kind of a reject, you know,
and my first band name was The Rejects, and I
really felt a connection to that for so long, and
then we got to a point where we signed an
indie deal and that the studio was like, yeah, you
got to change you name because we don't want to
get sued the Civillion bands, yeah them. And then there

(26:04):
was also just like like so many other bands called
the Rejects at the time, So you know, I was
like really really gutted about that because I really felt
so passionate about that, and there was a lot of people,
there were a lot of people in the underground that
felt passionate about us, and we're upset to see our
name change. But anyway, like I I, we ended up

(26:26):
changing our name, and it's something that you know, it
was all right, but like I never truly it never
truly resonated with me. So when Orphan Prodigy came about,
I wanted to I had just turned like, I had
just turned thirty, and I really wanted to kind of
retain the element of feeling like a reject, but in

(26:47):
a more positive light because I felt I felt like
when I turned thirty like a lights which flipped on.
I I met Danielle, everything just kind of clicked. I
felt better about myself. I had just kind of come
out of this agoraphobic phase where I couldn't leave my
apartment and stuff, so I was I just felt on
top of the world. But I still felt like I

(27:10):
should represent my humble, my humble beginning, so feeling different,
feeling like a reject, and feeling just different. And so
I wanted orphan two. I wanted orphan to represent the
reject part, you know, because as an orphan, you're you're alone, right,
You're alone, You're it's a singular position to be in,

(27:32):
and prodigy is like the complete is It's just like
you know, taking a very alone. It's being alone, but
it's also being highly gifted and intelligent or you know,
and being able to just you know, kind of rise
and and so pairing those two together, for me, it

(27:54):
was creating a color, the color of passion, positivity, embracing
the difference, not shying away from it, you know, just
being able to accept yourself for who you are inside
and out, through and through and go with it. Just

(28:15):
go with it. Don't let anybody stop you. That's what
are from Prodigy stands for. I think.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I think when you say reject, I feel like creatives
feel like I feel like creatives are the rejects of society,
you know, Like I feel like they're the ones that
are so unique and stand out and like they don't
usually fit in with like normal society mainstream usually. Like

(28:41):
I feel like it's like the creatives are the reject
like you know what I mean. But it's like a
good thing. It's like I must rather be unique than
just like everyone else, like being an artist.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
And like being a machine ground.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, like creativity is like a gift and a blessing,
and being different it's also a gift and a blessing
them We're all here for a reason, for different reasons,
on different paths. I was reading this post from my
coach yesterday, and she talked about how like we should
view our life like a book and how everyone's chapters

(29:16):
are different because we're all on different chapters of our
own book. And so when we try to compare ourselves
to like other people where they're at, like, oh, that
person has one hundred thousand followers, Oh that person's on tour,
Like it's like we all have our own learning lessons
on our own path and like our own gifts, and
we progress in different ways in different paces. So I'd

(29:39):
just love that perspective because it's like we are all unique,
and we all have our own chapters that we're in,
and we shouldn't compare ourselves to other people. But what
is important is building a really strong brand so that
you can attract your ideal clients that do resonate with
who you are.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Like you, Yeah, I think you summed it up perfectly,
especially you know, you know everybody being on different chapters
and things and that that really that that speaks to
you know, us and you know, the clientele that we
are trying to attract is you know, people that are

(30:20):
that can relate to us and and and and feel
different maybe they feel on the outside, maybe they they
you know, we have people that come to our streams
and you know, they've been to they've attended our streams
maybe like twenty times, and they haven't said one word
in the chat or on voice whatever. But then one
day they'll they'll type something and they'll it's kind of

(30:40):
like a revelation for them, you know, and it's it's
a victory for them, and we're just happy to be
able to be the platform to allow that to happen.
And that's a really cool thing to see in real time,
you know, somebody just kind of watching us, hanging out
with us, and then they type something and then somebody

(31:01):
responds to them, and they get all excited and they
they come back and they're all, you know, it just
it just builds confidence and.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Sorry, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I think this also ties into like our mental health
side too, and the support that we have for mental health.
I think, you know, everybody is different and unique and
I and that should be celebrated, right. I think if
if you're the same as the other person, Like if
you think about that, if we had an entire world
or society and we were all the same, it would

(31:32):
be so boring. And and so here we are, here
you are. Everyone is different and unique and that's fun
and exciting. And you know, I just hope that we
can help people embrace that, learn to embrace who they are.

(31:54):
And you know, if if our music helps people become
more entered and more in one with themselves, than then
we're we're doing good things.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
That's that's such a beautiful thing, and like, I feel
like musicians are like also I know I said rejects,
but also like I meant just like unique, right, not
like in a bad way. But also they're also heroes
because like your music can literally change someone's life. It
can like save someone from jumping off a building, like,
it can help someone get through loss. Like music has

(32:30):
such potential to transform and heal and help people so
much so it's like it's such a beautiful thing, especially
that you guys are utilizing your gifts for mental health
and like helping people because that I can tell like
feel like they belong and just like embracing people and
just like yeah, just just just being like just like

(32:56):
loving everyone.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
And yeah mm hmmm, absolutely, yeah, I mean I think Trader.
You know, the reason you know, you, Danny, you and
I have and you know, have pushed it so so
much is because it's resonated with so many people, and
it keeps growing, it keeps growing and growing, you know,
even love it. You know, just just the reception to

(33:20):
it has been incredible, and you know the fact that
people have found their own meaning with it. It's just
it's just it's just it speaks to what you you're
saying about kind of you know, resonating with the clientele
you want to attract. And it's not even intentional. It's
not like I wrote that song saying like I want
to attract me. I wrote that song because I was
feeling shitty, you know what I mean. Like so, but

(33:44):
and now people are kind of like taking that on
as as an outlet for themselves and finding their own
their own meaning in it, which is great.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Oh yeah, I think the best songs do that, or
people can like interpret it their own way, and you know,
it helps them how they want to perceive it. I
think that's the beautiful thing about music in general. Would
you say, like working with me and PR and stuff
has helped you guys with like engagement. Have you seen

(34:12):
a difference in like your fans being engaged with you,
or new followers, or like, what are some things you've
seen happened since? Just to give people an idea of
what can happen when you two take PR seriously and
you do start being more visible and building your story.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, I think you know, the immediate effects are just
you know, excuse me, just you know, having articles and
stuff and being in the press and doing doing these
podcasts and things. You're opening yourself up to a much
broader audience, and you need that to grow your numbers
on social media, you need that, to create hardcore fans.

(34:50):
You need because ultimately, at the end of the day,
you'd rather have I, you know, I'd much rather have
you know, twenty hardcore fans than you know, one hundred bots.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
You know, and that up.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
No, No, they're not real people. And and I meant
bots as I was being I was being I was
being derogatory. I was just using bots as the term
for you know, like fans that are kind of like
come and go or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
But bos don't really buy or merse so well.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Either or either or at this point. But yeah, I
mean that's the thing is like, when you're working with
somebody who knows what they're doing, who can put you
in the right places and gets you onto, you know,
into bigger platforms, you know, that's when you start to
see the numbers increase. That's when you start to see
the views go up, the view counts go up.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
And it's it's just you start to see what's working too. Right,
Like again, like these last six months, we've we've been
able to see which platforms, which where to put our
energy into and and where we're getting received from. And

(36:09):
I think as a whole, that's really helped us to
learn what or proprie is all about, what our brand
really is. I think that's really that's that's been the big.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Realization.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, yeah, for us, we were getting to know ourselves
better through this process and and you know what everybody
wants from us and to give out right, and.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
We wouldn't have and we wouldn't We wouldn't have that
if it wasn't for the work that we're doing with.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
You, right Exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
It's helped you kind of be able to analyze things
or kind of break down what's working, what's not working,
what platforms people are resonant on, what people engage with,
what interviews people like, if they like watching you more
on podcasts or interviews or playlists or whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah, exactly, especially with the mental health thing. I think
I didn't see that one coming at all. Oh wow, yeah,
and I you know, you were booking you were booking
me a lot of mental health stuff, and I was like,
we did want we did the first one. I was like, okay,
this is it feels really good, like it's just a
natural conversation. I'm an open book anyway, I don't you know,

(37:29):
I don't care if people know about me. And so yeah,
that's just kind of worked. Like, you know, it's just
like and people like that, people like honesty and being authentic,
and you know, we're like just we're just like open books,
like to a fault, I think, so.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
No, I think that's a great thing. You know. I
also think I'm trying to remember what I was gonna say,
but I can't remember it the second so it's okay.
I think something about confidence. I feel like your confidence
has grown since we started working together. Like I feel

(38:06):
like you're more confident, like doing the interviews and just
like being being on podcasts and like I feel like
you're getting your story down more and more and more.
And I was gonna, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Sorry, you go No, I wasn't no, I was just
gonna agree with you. I mean, I think you're right.
You're absolutely right, you know, from the first interview till now. Yeah,
I'm telling the same story, but I've refined it and
I've gotten it to a point where it's like you know,
point A. You know, it's like there's like seven points

(38:37):
I want to hit and now it's not so meandering
because I'm like, I like I meander all the time.
It's like so far we.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Were kind of our streams. They were like Danielle stopped
meandering like literally, and I.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Like going from topic to topic just like I could
do that too. Yeah, I get it, but.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Like sometimes people want just like a cut and dry
answer and like you, I got called the king of
meandering one time. Yeah, I know, I embrace it. That's
how the music said. I mean, when you listen to
the album, that's what it sounds like. It sounds like
just a songwriter who's meandering through a soundscape of many

(39:21):
many ideas to not so as to not be bored, right,
I mean total, So no, I get that.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I was actually gonna say it's important to pick an
angle when it comes to r and I feel like
mental health is a really big angle for you, you know,
because I always say it with my friend Evan, because
we do a lot of branding with artists, Like we
tell people all the time, like a song is not
it's not enough to just say you have a song out,
Like you have to have a story and a message

(39:50):
and stamp for something. And I think for you, Like
the mental health piece is like a really big part
of that.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, and you and you know Daniel also comes from
a background and mental health, so it just it just adds,
you know to that whole idea.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
It's a natural fit.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, that's yeah, that is she's a license psychology.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, I'm a trained license psychologist. Oh so yeah on
uh I I live two lives literally, which is like
a quote from a song of our songs. Yeah, but
it's but that's what's been so fun too, is being
able to merge our worlds together, you know, as a

(40:35):
as a married couple, but also as a brand. And
it's it's just it's fun because of that, right, Like
we're just as it's kind of like just hanging out.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Together, effortless piece to it.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I think that's such a beautiful embarra thing these days,
Like it's okay to like meet people that actually support
each other and like each other and like help each
other and like are in alignment with each other and
people respect and I love that.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, we're very we're very what do they say that,
we're very blessed?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I think it's rare these days, Like I think it's amazing.
It gives you hope, gives me hope. Also, like speaking
about brands like I know that you're one of the
strategies you're using is also like thinking about like what
brands then connect with your music. So talk a little
bit more about that too.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Comfort, Yeah, our first partnership is with Comfort. It's an
awesome company, the clothes. So it's a it's a clothing company.
Their main product was a sweatshirt and sweatpants set and
it's a little like it's like made very well. It's

(41:58):
a little weighted. So their like mission statement is all
about mental health as well, so they they're selling this
set that it's it's for comfort, it's for.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Also the nature of having weighted like it's having it's.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
For wellness, right like when you put on like a weight,
it's like a weight to blanket. Right that we all
know about it. It's it's comforting. It actually resembles being
in the womb, like being in that kind of like
credle position. So the brand has sweat sets, it has
t shirt sets, but everything is super comfortable, super soft.

(42:41):
I have I should I mean I have one.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Of like every we talked about doing a show.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Literally I have wanted every every type. I'm like, that's
everything that they get. I get him in black and
he's like.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Developing.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, we have a lot of comfort in our house,
so definitely in support of it. We love their mission,
we love their stuff. We're also you know, currently waiting
to hear back from a few different companies we like
to you know, we're we tried to partner with lifestyle
brands right, like like ones that fit into our lifestyle.

(43:24):
We did something with Rise, which is like a mushroom
coffee company.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
I see.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, like one of these hydration companies we're waiting to
hear back from. We we you know, use it daily,
love it for like healthy electrolytes. What else I think? No, no, no,
I'm like thinking at the same time, there's a brand

(43:51):
that we love for dinner that comes it comes cooked
and it's healthy and it's you know, protein Dents because
we're on also like a wellness journey ourselves, so we've
reached out to them as well as a partner. So yeah,
we're just looking for for companies, for companies that like
are already in our life totally that we use, so

(44:15):
you know, we want to be authentic.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
What yeah, we're passionate about them. So you know, it's
just great to be keep being authentic and being passionate
about brands that we that are aligned with us.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I think when it comes to finding brands, it's like
finding brands, like you said, that align with your lifestylee
already you're not just like oh, like I just want
to make money, Like let me just reach out to
like all these random brands. It's like okay, but like
what actually like makes sense for you?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, there needs to be a central focus because if
there's not a focus, then you're just selling. You're just
kind of like again, it's all over the place demandering.
It's like there's no there's nothing for people to grab onto,
you know.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, no, totally. I think that's really starts to about
like the mental health clothing company and like the coffee
and like, I mean, wellness is like a billion dollar industry,
so you'll be able to find so many different brands
you know that that are into like the wellness space,
whether it's like like fitness clothing for like the gym,

(45:17):
or like coffee companies. Stop them in companies like they're
buy all the biohacking tools like it's never ending. So yeah, yes,
that's an awesome niche. Let's talk a little bit about Patreon.
That's another thing that I'm really passionate about is like
helping artists build offers on Patreon or other subscription platforms

(45:39):
so that you know, I'm a big believer it's really
important to make money with your gifts and to monetize
with your fan base other people that will support you.
And sometimes people can't support you because you're not really
giving them or artists aren't like giving them a way
to do that. So I feel like a platform like
Patreon or other subscription platforms are a really good opportunity

(46:01):
to help it make it easier for people to pay
you that do want to support you if they can't
come to your live stream, you know, maybe they're paying
five dollars a month or something. So talk a little
bit about what that process was like with me helping
you with the Patreon brainstorming and what your thoughts were.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
And yeah, yeah, I mean you had like two hundred
ideas off the off the bat, so which I love.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
By the way, because I've been trying to get him
on Patreon forever.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, I know, she's been she's been begging me to
do Patreon. So when when when I told her, when
I told her about that, she was really excited and
I told her about all your ideas, and I think
you made a good point. You know. The thing. The
great thing about Patreon is that, yeah, there are there
are a lot of fans that you know, maybe they
can't afford to attend the show or or they can't

(46:51):
do it because of scheduling or whatever. They want to
find some other way to support and having that option
to give somebody like a five or you know, even
less than that, you know, just something to kind of contribute.
It's about finding that balance. It's about finding something that
they can contribute to that they feel passionate about, that

(47:13):
you also feel passionate about too.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I think it's fun too, just like from a fan perspective,
you know, if if my favorite artist was doing something
like that, it's a way to like like stay in
it with them, you know, and stay stay in the know, right, yeah, exactly,
Like you become like a VIP fan and you get
all like the special stuff like I would totally have

(47:37):
done that, you know if growing up and like you know,
being around I don't know, why I'm like relating into
like me when I was younger, because I feel like
that's when I was like the most fangirl for like
bands and artists, right.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I think also like not all our super bands are
our best friends or are musicians, you know, Like sometimes
I think we forget because I feel like as musicians,
we kind of can take it for granted that we
do music or that we know about live shows. But
I feel like some of the big super fans like

(48:13):
aren't even musicians at all, Like they just love your
music and they I think sometimes people that aren't musicians
can appreciate other people's music a lot more because they're
not necessarily artists. So it's like they those people might
be your super fans, so it's not always even like
you're best friends or like people in the same genre
as you.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
You know, No, You're absolutely right. I mean some of
some of my biggest supporters and fans have been people
that haven't touched a guitar or haven't touched a piano.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
The first person that believed in me way, you know,
like ten years ago, he's like, why aren't you charging
people to see you play? Why are you playing for free?
And it was like a revelation for me because I
was like, really think I can make money at this,
Like yeah, and then I walked out like a month
later with one hundred dollars in my pocket. I was
like that was like that was like the big like

(49:08):
introduction into the industry, you know, from being a professional standpoint.
But you know, yeah, just you know, going off of
what you're saying, I mean, the biggest fans don't always
have to be musicians at all.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Oh yeah, let's go to virtual shows and then we're
hitting a lot of points. You've been putting a lot
of energy into your online and virtual shows. Can you
kind of talk about that process, what it's been like,
what have you been thinking about REACHO and growing your
virtual audience? Yeah, and as and has PR helped with

(49:43):
that at all? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, I mean the PR has definitely helped first first
and foremost just mentioning it in the articles expanding the
reach you know, I got I got an email a
couple of days ago for some random person in Germany
was like, oh, I just read an article about you
from from I read it. They were in Germany, but

(50:07):
they read an article or they got somehow they found
an article from Brazil.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
So many Brazil articles.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, there's a lot of Brazil stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
And it's like they all love you guys.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
South America loves rock and roll and we hope you
get there.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
So cool.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You know, it would be great to play in Brazil
Rock and Rio. It's just an amazing festival. But yeah, so,
uh what was the virtual shows? Yeah, so yeah, it
really has helped because you know, then they're like, oh,
well this guy puts on virtual shows, this band puts
on virtual shows, let me go and attend the stream.

(50:46):
Sure enough, that person was in the stream the next day.
So yeah, no, no, I kid you not. And it's
just an amazing thing to see.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Just I think it gives fans an opportun tunity to
also attend, right. I mean, you know, in person shows
are there's nothing like them. It's a very awesome. It
can be spiritual experience, right, like being in person and
seeing your artist and play. But this virtual platform, which

(51:21):
I have to say was born out out of out
of the pandemic that you can the outreach is incredible
of the fan base, and I think it gives the
fans who you know, can't attend in person for whatever reason,
whether it's financial or logistical or even you know, like

(51:43):
emotional and personal. Right it allows them to see you
play live in the comfort of their own home. I mean,
I think I think that's incredible.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
It is. And you know, we're really working towards you know,
every every every couple of months, we try and see
what we can do better, whether it's like you know,
getting more bandwidths so the audio sounds better and more crispy,
you know, getting more you know, just getting better mixes,
getting up the stage. You know, we want to we
want to The next big thing we want to do

(52:14):
is incorporate like visuals and like green screen and like
you know, just really have like album you know, visuals
that are kind of like ty into the album artwork
and stuff. So we have we have a we have
a bunch of ideas kind of in the background that
we want to implement.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Wah.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah. And it's just you know, it's just a matter
of execution and getting getting the time and you know,
building the new setup. And it's a lot of work
because you know, at the same time that we're thinking
of these ideas, we still have a schedule to keep.
We have a streaming schedule to keep with the live shows.
We have a streaming schedule to keep with the gaming stuff,

(52:54):
and we have a streaming schedule to keep with the
podcasts and the interviews and the mental health stuff. So
it's just in our home.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
We have logistical stuff too in our basement to figure
out our.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Entire seven shows a day, how many shows a week?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I mean, back when we were on Long Island, it
was every day. It was every day, and we were
I was doing maybe at least I was probably doing
I was averaging probably about six, eight or nine show. No,
it was more like eight or nine shows per.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Day, but they each show.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, So that's the thing. It varies in format. So
sometimes it's like just me and an acoustic guitar for
three songs or whatever on some radio station or or
online station. But then other times it's more there's a
whole like you know, virtual festival kind of scene that
goes down, right, So there's like, you know, hundreds, if

(53:55):
not thousands of people attending the same stream and watching
artists kind of rotate the same way you would watch
artists rotate on a stage at a festival. And it's
that's it's a really cool and it's a really fun
thing to do. It's kind of nerve wracking because a
lot of guys can go wrong.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
But waiting for someone to end, so you jump in
and then yeah you're ending and someone else jumps in, and.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
You know, sometimes it's like other artists too.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, yeah, and sometimes there's there's always a lot of
technical hiccups. But now it's got you know, now that
people have kind of understood how to do it and
you know, figured out the format and figure out the
equipment necessary and the bandwidth right necessary because there's never
enough bandwidth. So uh like right now, I think I
think we're using the same camera that we use for

(54:43):
the stream downstairs. But we always try to give like
the best visuals possible. So we try to stream at
four k thirty frames per second, which is like a
pretty good resolution to stream at. That's pretty crispy. You
could see our you could see our pores and stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
You know, he's nerding out.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah, I tend to I geek out. You know, I'm
a tech guy, so I like I like technology.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
So, oh, I was.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Gonna ask you. So with these shows, you do like
seven shows a day, like like average, and then it's
like at least three songs per show, and then it's like,
how do you do people pay virtual tickets it gets
to a whole stream or yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
So we sell yeah, so it's by the show. You
can get the tickets directly on our website at a
unlisted link. You have to sign up to our million
list to get it. But once you do that, I believe,
you get like a like a code to a to
a to an unlisted page that's on our website and

(55:50):
that's where the like there's just basically like a big
play button, a black screen and a play button, and
so if we're having a show and you press the
play button, that the show will art right in real time.
So uh, it's uh, it's it's it's really cool. I
mean essentially you could pretty much catch us. We also

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do other packages, like I think there's like a three
show a day package, so like if you miss one,
you can kind of jump in and see another three.
Depending there's a there's a lot of benefits to it
because we try to you know, we don't play the
same set the same the songs in the same.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
If it's like the same songs each time, or it's
like covers.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Or so right now we have four formats. Two of
them are the main set and we sort of switch
up the songs, maybe add one, take one away, that
kind of thing. The other format is more of an
acoustic format where it's just me, and the fourth format
is an acoustic format, but it's kind of more of

(56:57):
an unplugged where it's with the band. So there's like
drums and bass and acoustic guitar. So four formats total.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Wow, that's a lot. I mean, it's cool because it
makes you think, like for artists that don't want to tour,
like this could be a really great viable option to
like start getting into like the virtual live streaming gain
virtual tours essentially.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, I think I should
also mention I mean, you know, coinciding with the mental
health peace. I mean, there is a part you know,
we do the hybrid model because you know, I personally
do struggle with panic disorder, and that's also kind of
part of why the hybrid model works for us so well,

(57:41):
I think, because if it wasn't for having this ability
to do the virtual stuff, you know, we wouldn't be
able to get ourselves out there as much, you know,
so it's a big deal. For us to put a
lot of effort into it and make it as as
good as possible and engage.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah. I mean, I think people can make money a
lot of different ways these days online and they don't
have to necessarily be on tour. You know. It just
gives people a whole other option. And that's a beautiful
thing that it lets you guys do that, and you know,
let's be able to connect with people from all over
the world, you know, and I even just the US, Like,
like you said, that person like found your article in

(58:23):
Brazil from Germany and then like joined your life. Like
that's like the power of like connecting with a fan.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah, that was sick. That was fucking sick. We have
a sign downstairs that says, uh our keyhole. It's above
our like the keys to leave the house, and it's
like it says it says sweet home. It says it
says home, sweet home. And then below that it says
let's stay let's stay in, or let's let's stay home.
Let's stay home. We don't like to We don't like

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to travel. We don't really like to travel so much.
We every time we travel, we like instantly feel like
we want to go home a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Of energy, Like it's a lot of mental energy. Like,
ever since I moved to La, I haven't wanted to
travel as much. I've just been like I just like
being here and not having to like travel as much.
I don't know, maybe I'm just being easy.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
But I just like like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
It's like it's just like, yeah, we like comfort, and
you know, it's it's very like, you know, I talk
about bandwidth for the Internet and stuff in the streams,
but like there's a mental bandwidth that kind of just
you know, it's not we don't have a very high
bandwidth for for social interaction. A lot.

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Of people require social interaction.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I think ever since the pandemic, people don't have as
much bandwidth for social interaction in general. Like I think
it's like more mentally draining to like sometimes I have
to like force myself to just like leave my house
and like Danny, like go out and be social and
just like go talk to people and just like sit
in your apartment and work all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
I think it's it's society wise too. I think it's
also become socially acceptable two to express that right to
express your your your emotional bandwidth your you know, the
that mental health piece, the you know, I can't come
out tonight, you know, like my my batteries from low

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you know, like that's more common now, I think than
than ever before, which, you know, which is also a
nice thing that we feel comfortable to be able to
express ourselves in that way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah, and so you know, it also you know, lends
itself to the fact that when we do actually play
in person, people are excited, you know, because it's like
a special it's special for everyone, special for us and
special for the audience.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
So you know, or that will come. We we are
planning live shows.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, we have, we have, Yeah, we have November twenty first,
the Patreon slash Deep based release party.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Back first in Brooklyn, back in Brooklyn, back in Brooklyn.
Did I say the date? November twenty first, twenty first, Yeah,
So that's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Thanksgiving, yeah, yeah, week the week before, week before.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
So that that's going to be fun and that actually
it's really funny that that's the first show because the
venue itself, yes, it's in person and people can show
up and we welcome that, but the venue itself is
created to stream, to live stream.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Basically a better Yeah, it's basically a better version of
of what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
It's equipped with all the stuff that you need.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Yeah, no, they're sick love. I love First Live. That's
like my favorite, my new favorite venue. It's it's like
it's like this little it's like a very it's like
a small like coffeehouse, but then there's like a rock
vibe to it too. It's like it's a really cool
spot in Bushwick really just like awesome spot. And Rachel
the promoter is awesome. She's she's so cool, really really

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really good to us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
We met a lot of cool people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yeah, we're looking forward to We're looking forward to it,
we really are.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
And your Patreon you're launching your Patreon that that same day. Yeah.
I think that's so smart, you know, because you're gonna
already have all the people there, so like why not
launch everything the same time, you know. It's it's so
important to think about like your launch strategy, and I
think that's a really good way to do it. Cool.
So this has been awesome. Where's the best plan? Where's

(01:02:43):
the best place for fans to follow you? Check out
your music, support your Patreon, tell us all the things.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah, www dot or from producty dot com. That's kind
of the hub for everything, as it should be. But
we're really active on Instagram at at orphan Prodigy, Facebook
at orphan Prodigy. Music Yeah, YouTube at orphan Prodigy, all
the things Twitch sorry Twitch, I forgot twitch Twitch from Prodigy,

(01:03:14):
that's where we do a lot streaming.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Well, this has been awesome. Thank you guys so much
for coming on the show and it's just having Yeah. Absolutely.
I hope you guys have the rest of a really
great day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Thanks you too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Bye.