La Paradis Pour Toi

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hey, everyone, what is that? I am Kelly's sex on
the tongue Keene.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And I am done? Maybe you're too much Glenne.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Definitely the best line in the in the episode.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
I loved it the whole What fight was just hilarious.
That that's the kind of that's the kind of like
like Carol fighting that I want to see.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes, absolutely, that's what we're here for.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
So this is We are now at episode four and
that which means we only have two episodes left after this.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, this is our favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, desolutely, absolutely, by far my favorite episode, and I
mean we all know why, but.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, but you know, but it also had Ddie and
THEO and yes, I just I mean, how do you
not fall in love with completely?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yes? And that's that whole I mean we just said
it is literally half the episode, and that half the
episode is totally how I will imagine or how I
imagine the spin off was originally going to be. You know,
then it's Daryn Carol traveling. They meet people, they have
little inter reactions that are relevant to them or relevant

(01:44):
to the people. Then eventually they move on. And that's
so it's exactly what I imagine this this spinoff would be,
so I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Do you think this was kind of a Do you
think this episode was kind of a preview of the
rest of the series.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, I think so. I really think that this is
going to be more I mean, I think it's going
to be a bit different in that they're going to
stay in one country every whatever two seasons, if that's
on the day. But I think this the feel of
it and the amount of comedy that's in it in
this one and in episode three, I think that's it's

(02:20):
really setting up the style of how these how it's
going to go forward.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, I mean back in you know, in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one, when they were first you know, in
the early stages planning it, they said it was going
to it was going to be a much lighter tone,
and you know, it's going to be like just a
revolving cast with Carol and.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Darryl as the main fiction in essential Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, so yeah, I do think it was a I
do think it was a good preview as long as
they're still sticking to that plan, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes exactly, we don't know for sure, but I think
I think if EMC doing marketing research, which they must do,
you know, and they see exactly the kind of stuff
that just goes down so well with fans. And it's
not just particularly Daryl and Carroll fans, but all general
fans just seem to love that Carol and Daryl bickering,

(03:18):
winding each other up in a kind of you know,
cutesy way, but working together as a team, like without
even having to speak to each other kind of thing.
That stuff that goes on in the back half of
this episode, I think is what most people enjoy watching,
and I think MC will lean into it if they're wise,

(03:39):
which yes, I.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Mean we saw a little bit of that in early
season ten too, you know, yes, we.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Did, Yes, exactly that. The first half of season ten
was like the most perfect Daryn Carroll interactions. Although they
were arguing over Carol's like an insistence of focusing on Alpha,
but the actual interactions were exactly what I want to
see from Carol and Darryl. That mixture of emotional stuff

(04:06):
and like stuff about how they connect with each other,
but also the teasing and the silliness, and then the
also the tension, which is, you know, sometimes there's good
tough tension. I don't want tension all the time, but
it's good to have that dynamic.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Any major highlights that you want to share about the
New York Comic Con panel or anything.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, I think there's only one thing to talk about,
and that is why Norman Readers crying, which I have
never never seen Norman Readers like that ever? Ever did
we saw it?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I can only think of one time I've seen Norman
Readers cry, and it was in the Walking definale, because
that was not that was.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Not Daryl, that was Norman Reader.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yes, yes, exactly, but his eyes were like glazed over
you could tell you yes, yes, And I.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Mean that was what For those who haven't seen it,
they played the first forty minutes of this episode to
the crowd in Your Comic God, ending with the Daryn
Carroll's reunion, and they were talking about it, and Norman
Readers was talking about the connection between Daryn Carroll and
and all the same phrase as he uses all the time,

(05:30):
but he was talking about you know when when Meliss, well,
when Carol tears up, I tear up kind of thing.
But then he was sort of he was talking about
Darryl's mindset in that moment when he's fighting through all
the walkers and clears the path. There's nobody left, and
there's Carol standing there, and and Norman, as he said,

(05:51):
was trying to say, it's the one person Darryl needs
most in the world. It's standing right there, and he
couldn't speak for tearing up and crying. Gosh. Yeah. And
Melissa like Rubbs's back and it's like, oh, because she
was crying. She basically cried that from that point on.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
That's what I love about her because if I was, like,
if I was in a show and playing a character
with all these emotional moments, I just I wouldn't be
crying the whole time talking about it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean I would. I'm not
a crier at all. But I have to say Norman
showing that vulnerability there and how much he feels as
Darryl in that moment. You know, he said that in
San Diego. He said when he they filmed the reunion,
he had powers going off in the side of it

(06:45):
because he was feeling what Daryl felt. And just him
describing that that that swell of emotion that this is
the one person, you know and all the world he
would most want to see and she's right there, and
he's just so overcomes emotion talking about it, and it's

(07:07):
it's undone. A lot of this sort of negative stuff
that's going on with the people behind the scenes talking
about the show, and it doesn't correlate with what we're
seeing on screen, and you know, a lot of the
sort of negative stuff about Parlors. And honestly, if Norman
was that emotionally vulnerable and open in every interview, he's

(07:31):
got everyone inside, you know, you he wins everybody back
with that kind of of realness, you know, and really
it makes it There's a lot of times that people,
people who don't ship Daryln Carol are convinced Norman doesn't
want that, Norman would never want that, whatever. But when

(07:52):
you see him being that viterally emotional about it, it
really shows that he cares so much about the Daryn
Carroll relationship and how important it is to him as
a person. Is really lovely to see. So hopefully that
bodes well for the future.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Oh that's sweet.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, there was also I was just gonna say, there's
also about the title. David Zabel said Season three will
not have a subtitle, and he said because I've received
so much fun for the length of the title, But
I hope that doesn't mean it returns to just Daryl
Dix and I hope you change it to something more

(08:32):
equitable for me.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yes, yes, please. I noticed in the credits for the
first time. This is the first time I ever. I
just happened to notice it accidentally that she is in
front of him for Executive Producers. But I think they're
in alphabetical order.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Ah, right, yes, yeah, David Alpher yeah, probably.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, because I think Angela hang is before her, and
then yeah, and then David Table is last. Yeah, so
I think it's At first I was like, oh, okay,
so maybe he got killing like she got for EP,
But yeah, I think they're just a corner.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah. Melissa also said about being EP that she didn't
have a lot of input in this season. She said,
I sort of sat back and I let the men
do their things, the boys and the big boys in
the room.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Which was very interesting that she said.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was interesting being in those meetings and hearing about
the stuff that happened before I was there, and you
know how she might have done things differently kind of things.
So I was like, oh, yeah, don't blame me.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Very cool, all right, So is there was there any
any other major tidbits that you found for I think
I think.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's the There was an adorable little boy called Mattel
who was maker Wish, the kid that they brought up
on stage to sit on the panel, and Norman asked
him about his opinion, and then probably wished he hadn't
because she said because he's said, like, what did you think?

(10:23):
And Matteo was like, well, you know about the show
about the Then she kisses him, and Norman was like,
don't get me in trouble, and he goes, He goes,
I just have to ask, what is this reality? I
don't know ten I think I'm not so funny. And

(10:49):
then and then when he asked him about the reunion,
he was like, shouldn't ever happened? So Mattel is us.
He's a void something of yours job the tale, I
love it.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Before we get started, I wanted to let everybody know
in case you're in case you are, just if you
just watch us for the Book of Carol, you know,
Walking Dead Universe coverage, or if you just listen to
the Daryl Dixon podcast, we actually have quite a few
other podcasts as well.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
We uh we have the there.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
We're covering a couple of shows actually that just debuted.
Death Crunch is our hysteria podcast, and we cover that here.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's It's a binge.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's a peacock binge, but it's on USA weekly, so
we're sticking to a weekly format as far as covering it.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Bruce Campbell is in it.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
It's it's about the satanic panic of the eighties and
it is fantastic. The first episode was it was it
was so great. I loved it. I just absolutely love it.
Couldn't get enough. And it's hard for me to get
into a show that's not like horror or like just
really messed up in some way or a thriller, and

(12:09):
this is like kind of this has its like it's
also kind of a puzzle box show. There's stuff going
on that you don't really understand, but it's mostly lighthearted
and funny and I loved it. We are also covering
Teacup with Teacup TV podcast. You can find that wherever
you listen to podcasts, as well as our weekly coverage here,

(12:35):
and of course we are also currently covering From with
From Series podcast, and we also In addition to our
weekly podcast, we have Sunday night after shows immediately following
the new episodes, and for the after show in episode ten,
we will be giving away a cameo from David Alpay,

(12:58):
who plays Jade on the show. He's very funny. His
uh go check out his intro is cameo intro. It's
hilarious and like everybody who has gotten cameos from him
says that, like it was almost like he knew them,
so apparently he gives really good cameos.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's good and uh and of course we have the
Antler Queens our Yellow Jackets podcast, and.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
We're actually going to be putting out some bonus content
once once all of those podcasts and this one wraps up,
we're going to be putting out some Antler Queens bonus
coverage for Yellow Jackets, and we're going to be starting
our Severence podcast, the Severed Floor, so look forward to that.

(13:44):
They actually just moved up the premier date for season two,
so we've we've got to kind of bust and move
on on our season one coverage.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
For that, and.

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Then we're also going to be covering Welcome to Darry
in early twenty twenty five with Dairy Queen's Podcast and
that and that is going to be it for now. Okay, yeah, exactly,
or I'm getting divorced.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
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Speaker 3 (14:25):
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have to do to win is be present at the
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(14:48):
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
It right And now I'm trying to think, but the
very last shot of it was Carol. Wasn't it about
to get walkerd a term for super walker? She was
with Jenny's people outside the nest and was Jenny revealed

(16:31):
she was planning to kill Carol along with these other
people in tournament super Walkers. So when we come back,
we are with Daryl in his cell alone while he
hears lots of noise outside and in the distance you
pans through. We're really nice shot actually pans out the
window above him and we can see just lights in
the distance and this is Jenny's people. She brings out

(16:55):
opens the back of a truck and brings out a
massive a machine gun type thing. I don't know what
we call them, gattling gun?

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Is that what we call I'm sorry to interrupt you.
I just I just realized that one thing that I
don't think I hit on that I was that I
was kind of and if you hit on that and
I don't remember, then then you.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Know, but you know, I was.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
I was complaining about like I was complaining about how
I felt like Carol the first scene with Carol and Jane,
how I felt Carol was just like, you know, not
really being were very smart, and it seemed like Janee
wasn't being very smart either, because you know, I mean
she did the same thing with Cadrone and look what happened.
But you know, it's it's nice that they actually explained

(17:45):
at the end that no, she knew what she was doing.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, she was like, yeah she was. She was playing
cattle the week caddle was playing hard, yes, because she
was contained ing, yeah, okay, i'll take you to your friend.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
But what she was going with killer at the end
of it study.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I've got the pick up work today. Sorry. But also
I was thinking that when Carol, because yeah, we didn't
really go into this, but I thought about it afterwards.
When Carol says to Janny, I I'm here to kill him,
and we were like, why is Carol being so stupid?
Because she knows that what Remy is told her, which

(18:27):
presumably is Darrel is her partner or something like that.
But it makes sense now and that's why Jenny, even
though Carol doesn't explain anymore, Janny just says, oh, he
must have done something terrible to you, and men hurt
us so badly, don't they, and then like you know,
a heartbreak, like a woman's scorn kind of thing. And

(18:49):
it's only afterwards I thought, Oh, that's why Jenny says that,
because she thinks Carol has said to Remy, oh he's
my husband or ex husband or something, and she's saying,
I'm here to kill him. And Jenny understands that thought
because she's like, yeah, yeah, you're you know, yeah man
are man? Are scump? Basically?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
So so basically Jane either Jane either really believes that
that Carol does want to kill him because he broke
her heart or whatever, yes, or she's just playing Carol
because you know, Carol's telling her that she wants to
kill him, and here Remy's has already told her that, Like,
that's not you know that.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
They're that they're close.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
And so at the end of episode three, says you're
going to get your wish, You're going to kill your friend, Yeah,
which you know I mean because Carol didn't tell her
that that.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
He was her friend or anything.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
No, exactly. So yeah, it does make sense, but it
is one of those things. Yeah, she is brilliant.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
So I really hate the idea of like of them
screwing that, screwing that up.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, So the Jenny's soldiers shoot the crowd, Carol being
Carol Man just to hide in the crowd behind the
big guy, hid by the big man. That's what I'll
do and is not shot the all plot of the
ground and then Jurays, the doctor and others go around
shooting them with the see them and Carol's maroone and

(20:18):
leather jacket saves her.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yes, like that, Like I am okay you even even
still even still with her leather jacket, you still really
had to suspend disbelief in this.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Yeah, that scene I wrote if you For those who don't.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Know, I write a review of dald Dixon before Winters
Coming dot it and I said Carol wears a lot wears.
You know, Carol's leather jacket saves her, but she's also
wearing a lot of plot armor.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
A lot she's covered in it. I mean, she's basically
in a pile of super walkers.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Nobody you know, they turned towards her because she pulls
out the darts. They immediately so you were forced to
believe it didn't actually pay for her skin. And then
she gets up and the walkers turned towards her, but
no one grabs her, and she just manages to go,
oh away, and nothing stops her.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
She's not she's not shot, No, no, no, she had.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
A force field of poor armor this whole scene. But
as I say, you know, considering the amount of poor
armor Donald has had over the years, we shall forgive it.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, I mean it really was over the top though,
because you know, coming up in the you know, in
the transition here, like she seems to have she seems
to have had a little esp too.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Oh yes, yes, exactly. She's psychic, she's invincible. She's basically
a superhero, yes, and that's why they had to make
her manipulative, so she wasn't too really too, oh dear, Yes,
So she you know, escapes from this and they have

(22:18):
brought out a buggy with Couldron tied to the back
of it, which I really liked it. I thought they
was clever and that, you know the way they often
do the tree get a herd to follow you, you know,
using music, as they did, and at the end of
season ten, things like that, let's just have a human bait,

(22:39):
you know, poor Caudron is it. So he's on the
back of the buddy buggy and Carol flings the driver,
which I really love that like, and she takes over
driving and it's you know, the wind in her hair,
and she's driving towards the door and the walkers are
chasing them could point of view, of course horrific.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
And he's screaming and she stops the buggy and.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
He's like, why are you stopping barking going? But she
stopped the Jenny's men for reasons best known to themselves.
And then and she opened the door for her. It's
nice of them that they opened the door.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's what she was waiting for. She that was going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I knew that was gonna have ill just wait here.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I have to ask I have to ask if I
love when this. I don't know if this has come
up before in either of the season or actually in
all three of the seasons the Walkington universe that we've
covered that I think this might be the first time
that I've noticed a.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
A like a forage difference. Is it is it's buggy
like the typical.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, I don't know what would.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
You what word you we would call that a dolly dolly?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Okay, yeah, that is total that is a that is
a UK American difference. Yeah, we would call we would
call that a beat buggy or you know, it's a
it's a the car, Yes.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Yes, I thought you were talking about that.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about because it
looks like he was strapped to U.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, it was like yeah, or like a gardeny or something.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
The car, Yeah, the car.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
That that's like, yeah, that that's like, you know, either
cheap or a buggy.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
It's kind of that. So, yeah, I guess the really
difference there.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I just thought you were talking.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
About something else.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I think I'm trying to think there's a something terrain
vehicle to call them as the proper long you know,
like we use them on farms and things like that,
that sort of with the open top and them anyway.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Call those trailers tractors.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Irish love the tractors.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yes, yes we did. Scotland as well. Actually a big thing.
There is a famous story about an MP you know,
a member of Permanent Attractor FORN. Just google it. But
you know, if only if it's safe to do so.
So yeah, Carol's driving up the winding streets of the

(25:28):
nest and the walkers are chasing. Deny's men are chasing
they She stopped and she lets She gets Cardron off
and he says you go, and he's going to, you know,
fight back, and she says, well what about you? And
he says, no, on, you go tell Dixon I did
it for the boy. And they go their separate ways.

(25:49):
He tells Carol to go up the mountain pill he
goes back down to who knows what. So Carol is
now in the nest and we know Daryl's in the nest.
It's like yeah, but we go from there into the
room where Lusang is holding Isabelle. He has are tied
up in a chair and he's saying to you need

(26:12):
to tell us where Laurent is and of course Isabelle's
not giving it up, and he starts waxing lyrical about
you know, he first met Laurent when he was six,
and the Union of Hope evaluated Laurent and found, yes,
he was special the way that Isabelle had told them
they were. So it's all Isabelle's fault, which is yeah,

(26:35):
I just this is really bugs me because in episode
two we never got her addressing that at all, and
it should have before this scene her realizing, look, I've
done this. I've told these people he's special, and now
he's at risk because of them. And Lusang is saying,

(26:55):
your you know you had this faith and blah blah blah,
and it's a bit.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I was saying, now, no, no, I's it's wrong.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
You're using your faith because you're awake and you're trying
to control people. And Lisa says, oh, that sounds like garryl.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
And she says, no, no, he this is me. But
this is what he.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Awakened me that I'd been sleeping for. And I was like,
but that makes no sense because even it wasn't until
the moment that you heard from a meal that they
were going to kill bite Laurn. That was the only
moment you were aware of it because you were still
fully on board this is Laurent's faith and fate and

(27:37):
you know earlier in the episode, don't make no sense,
you're lying. It wasn't walking up on you by darn.
I was walking up on you when a meal went
by the way they're going to kill Laurent. So it
feels like there's whole chunks of dialogue missing.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Really, no, it absolutely does, because I think it actually
makes sense for her character to feel that way to.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
More common sense.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Than to be you know, not even and that's not
even taking into account her like her life before the outbreak, you.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Know, yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, even not taking that into account, I think we
kind of got a hint that she was maybe not
as invested in all of that, yes, as she wanted
to be, you know what I mean, And she was
still trying to hang on to it.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, when she said, you know, when Daryl invited her
to come to America, and she was like, no, it's
impossible because this is his fate and this is his
destiny and blah blah blah. But obviously it just wasn't enough.
We haven't had enough of that.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So she the song reiterates and says, you know, Laurent
has is something special, and isabel says, no, he's just
the way he looks at the world is special. But
he'll still believe and die. And I thought, And then
she invoked Jesus and Buddham. You know they all blod

(29:02):
and and that, you know, they all were human in
form and it doesn't work on Lusan.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
He's completely unimpressed. And she says, you know, that's what we.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Need to survive, is the way that that Laurent looks
at people. But Lussang says, no, we need to proof
is what we need. So tell me where Lauren is.
But just then a guard enters and says there's been
a breach, and and then Isabelle there's a Beth and

(29:38):
she lashes Lassan cuts his face with the shower drain
things a bit of metal.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
That was smart at least that was like, yes, yeah,
that was a clever, a clever little tool that she made, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
But like go for the jugular.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
A woman that knew how to get how to easily
get get watches and money at a guy's pocket, you know,
like she could do better than that.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And when you know when she was when she was
with Quinn, remember in season one, and she had her
in her house and she was trying to come up
with weapons to and she was going to kill Quinn
and then changed her mind, like yeah, she can do that,
she can do better that. But all it does is
enraged Lussan who takes a knife and stabs her in
the stomach. And I really loved.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Joel Twenty's Villa Twenty's.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Acting in that moment because you see he's like horrified
and like what what have I done? What have I become?
But he's too caught up in it all and they
all flee. Just sim to drags him and they all
flee from the room, leaving Isabelle bleeding on the floor.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I have to say, like bravo to to Clements because.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
She her acting is very.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
It's it's very I kind of compare her to in
a way, to monstro Hofsky. Yeah, yes, her acting is
very it's very subtle, you know she understated. Yeah, yeah,
but she she knows like she's really good at evoking
that emotion. Like they created a character that we were

(31:22):
supposed to care about, and then watched her yes, and
made it so we really didn't care about her. But
yet I genuinely was heartbroken when when he stabbed her.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I was like, I had a visceral reaction to it.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I like the fact that it was not a plant thing.
It was two people in a moment, you know. And
I thought that was very realistic that all of them,
including her, have been caught up in this religious fervor
about Laurent and she's come out of it and and

(32:03):
that's different, you know. I did like that they pleaded
with that dynamic. I just wish we would have seen
her with Laurent war.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I know, that's that's really heartbreaking that she never like
she didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, there's no dialogue between them this season at all.
I think, oh no, there was in the baseball scene,
but that was you.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
That was it. But yeah, I'm glad that there was that.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
There was a reason that she was in the last
episode staring at that roach that was coming out of
the drain.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Because I was like, what is she? Why are this
on that? What is going on there?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That was that was very very crafty, So good for her.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I would have never thought about doing something like that.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I know either. So we see the streets of the nest.
Carol is doing her caroling, she's lurking around, and the
guard walking. Oh, it's just so funny. She kills one

(33:10):
with a knife and she shoots the other one, and
we go back and we discovered Isabelle isn't dead. She's
she's still alive, and she starts to call her way out.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Of the of the room and try to get outside.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
This this is speaking of poor armor. It's not solor
arm cattle high kicking the guard was just I laughed outlined,
I'm sorry, Yes, changing buildings so we don't see anything
but the leg.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
She was like, you know, because I'm watching because if
my fate my current obsession is from I'm I'm constantly referencing,
like using jiffs and stuff to reference Harold Parano as mercutio.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh yeah, like you know.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
His little his little drag number, like she was thrown
up like level kicks.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Okay, that was something that the holy would have been
found up. It was funny, good place that stunt. Personally, man,
just like yeah, I'm like, okay, I can I can
appreciate the Melissa McBride might not be able to kick

(34:31):
him on in the name.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, And I don't think Carol Parano would probably be
able to do that today either.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
No, probably not. So we see Isabelle struggling to make
her way outside, you know, there's chaos surround her, people fighting, gunshots, screaming,
and she gets actually to the outside leans of the
of the nest and she's struggling to walk and this

(35:01):
fast walker starts coming at her, coming straight for her,
and then boom, he's dead, and of course it is
Carol has shot the walker that was heading for Isabelle.
And I love the way they had this interaction. That
Carol is so soft as Isabelle. There's no idea who
she is. She just sees she immediately seems she's been stabbed,

(35:24):
and Carl, oh, let me look after you, and gets
her to sit down, and she has a look at
the wound and oh, it's clean, you're you know, you'll
be okay, and gets her to press you'll press something
on it and oh, you're shivering, and puts a blanket
or something around her. And I just loved that that
was their interaction. I had seen people speculating because people

(35:44):
hate Carol, and they were like, oh, I bet she
kills Isabelle accidentally and then you know how awful? What why? No?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Yeah, it doesn't one little thing that I that I
I love.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I absolutely loved.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
How Carol was with her in the scene. I one
thing that I picked up on that I really liked.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I loved. It sounds so weird to point out, but
I loved.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I loved Isabelle's like little whimpers, like she actually sounded
realistic and she wasn't just like putting on it, you know,
because so many times in TV shows when somebody gets
hurt like that, it's you know, they're not really they're
trying to you know, they're trying to cope with it.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
They're trying to be a little too strong.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
And she and she is, she's like, try and hold
it together, but she's still like whimpering in pain.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
When Carol presses on it, she's like, you know, as
you would do, you can't help it.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, and she says Carol says her own name.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
First, she says, cause who are you Carol? I'm Carol,
And it doesn't at that moment click for as well
who she is. And then she says, what you doing here?
I'm looking for my friends he's an American, and I
loved Klemons is acting in that moment. Looks there like what,

(37:04):
oh my god, you're that Carol. It's a lovely little minute.
And inside the nest we see a young chap and
a nest person running for his life from walkers. And
he's running through the building towards where the self where
Daryl's kept, and he lets himself in to protect himself

(37:27):
from the walkers outside. And I just love that. I mean,
it's in all the trailers, but I love the way
normally just did that way, just like hello, if you
release me, I'll help you. But so he lives Daryl out,
and we see that this it is basically a long corridor,

(37:55):
but it's like a long corridor room so quick is
full of walkers, and Daryl has a morning Star, his
stuff is sitting on a table just outside the cell,
and he starts swinging his morning Star, taking out walker,
taking at walker, and after about two or three, you
can hear, because I've watched the scene a few times now,
you hear the gunshots coming from me every time he

(38:17):
feels the walker. Oh there's another gunshot there. And you
can't actually see Carol because I was like, I'm going
to look and seeing you can't see her getting to
But of course he's oblivious. He's just focused on the
walker in front of his face. And eventually he kills
the last one and there's Carol standing ten feet and

(38:38):
the Norman read is absolutely applause for that he's acting
in this moment where he looks her in total confusion,
like what what's happening? And then dawning realization and this
releaf on his face as he runs to her and
embraces her, and and then she he pulls back. It's

(39:10):
basically the same as the the Terminus Reunion in the
dynamic of it, in him running and the cry, but
instead in the in Terminus, Carol pulls back and holds
his face. But in this one it's the opposite. Daryl
holds perfect and I love that because he's like.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Saying, is it you?

Speaker 2 (39:28):
You really hear? Is this real? And then he crumbles again,
sobbing into and embracing, and the camera pulls away and
we just leave them embracing. I loved the sub The
closed caption says, Carol whimpers sobs, and I'm like it
said Carol whimpers and sobs because.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
She's like, I have to say something. I did not
feel this way the first time that I watched it. No,
but and I need to remind everybody that I am
a Carolyn Daryl shipper. But I am so not the

(40:11):
romantic type. I will pick apart like Carol and Daryl
could be making out, and I'll be like, I really
want to be making out. I don't know, I can't tell.
I'll pick apart everything.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yes, that did not.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
I don't know how you feel, but that did not
look like a platonic hugtomy.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Nope, the plan he goes back into it again. The
vibe I go is like it's it's like he just
wants it's a total abandonment of any monliness. And you know,
I don't mean that in a derogatory week, but like

(40:53):
he's just overflowing with relief that she's here, the sheer
happiness that she's there and she's he's holding her, you know.
And and as as Normany just said, and in this
the panel yesterday, the one person in the world he
needs he whenever anything's going bad for him, and he

(41:16):
feels really low. And you know this is aside from
Isabelle he doesn't know what's happened to Isabelle, but just in.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
His situation and the one person he knows will make
him feel.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Better, We'll get him through this, will be by his side,
will help him. It is there, and these Yeah, I
would look. I'll be honest, I would have liked I
would have liked some face touching more, you know, like
some like I know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I actually I actually kind of kind of preferred the
just like like burying their faces that there was a
lot of that, and there was ly like dway Carrol
did it.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
It was really yes, yeah, And I just like that
they're both completely I don't like that they cut away
from it and then we don't get any of the conversation.
And I realized they're not going to have a lot.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Of conversations in the situation they're in.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
But I would have liked to have just a bit
of after that moment to go, how are you here?
What what's happening? You know, that kind of thing. I
would have liked to see that. I think our friend
Miler pointed out that as the camera angle changes, Darl's

(42:38):
arms are under Carl's code. One of the texts he's
gone right, like a dot snuggy thing. But yeah, I
did like that the camera pulls out and leaves us.
It's like, we'll leave them to their primacy permot, which

(42:59):
I thought was kind of a cute directorial thing, look
to do it that way rather than be resumed right
in on them. But then we see them immediately rushing outside.
Carl's obviously said I've met this person as a Belle
and she's just U And Daryl runs up to Isabelle
and no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Isabelle's now lying down and he tries to get her
to move.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
We'll get help for you, but she recognizes it's too late,
this is too far gone. So Daryl gets down on
his knees and Isabelle says, you know, just let Laurent
know that I did everything to protect him and that
I'm always with him, and please make sure it was
there was the way she said, you know, make sure

(43:43):
he's almost safe, always safe. And he's like, okay, okay, okay,
which is a bit like the conversation with Carol and
I did. I'm still not liking the whole I know
she's on her deathbed, but I'm not a fan of

(44:04):
what Daryl says, we can do that together, because he's still,
you know, planning a future with her even today. I
know he's just saying it, but still, and she says,
in her dying words, she says, I can see them,
the fireflies. They're beautiful. And that's she passes away in
that moment. And it was really nice, sort of tabloa

(44:28):
the way it's set up. That Isabelle's lying down and
Darrel was kneeling over her. He doesn't like put his
head on her. He just sort of puts his head out,
and Carol comes with chands with her hands on his shoulder.
And only in the last time I watched it did
I notice he takes a knife out She's going to
put down as a bell so he doesn't have to Wow.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, I did not notice that.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
No, you know several This is the thing that I
was like sitting on my hands about last week that
I wanted to talk about when I was talking about
like just complete ridiculousness. Yeah, he seemed more upset when

(45:13):
she got taken away, yes, than when she actually died.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yes, yes, yes, like what what what? What is what
is this?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
It's yeah, it's it's very like he it's more like
he's resigned to the oh, well, of course she's died,
you know, rather than oh, no, this person I was
going to have a future with, you know what I mean.
So it fits in with what Norman Readius has been
saying that it wasn't it wasn't a love much, it

(45:49):
was his experimenting kind of thing. He definitely has seemed more.
I mean, if we think about when Beth died and
he's carrying her body and he's in it, you know
that's that's not this. This is just But I also
I wanted to comment on the fact that they had
those two scenes straight after each each other, the re

(46:12):
union and Isabell's death. I do not like that because
these are the two emotional beats of the episode, high
and a low, and have them all take place in
under three minutes straight after each other, with no no,
not even a buffer scene in between of you know,
the sang or Janny or somebody. It takes away the

(46:36):
impact of both scenes because you're just you can't get
lost in the happiness from the re union because you're
immediately oh, no, Isabel's dead, and you don't feel Isabelle's
dead to the full extent, because you've just beenishing a
happy moment.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
And I think, unfortunately, I think that the scene that
was hurt the most by that was Isabelle's death, and
it's it's just, you know, I hate to say, like
I'm glad we don't have to talk about her anymore,
because I just, yeah, I have a lot of rage
over that, like just about how her character was treated

(47:16):
and the fact that they don't even talk about her
in like promotion, you know, on the panels or anything.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's like, I.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Just justice for Clement's Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I hate that she was built up to be an interesting,
complex person in the first season, you know, when she
is awful to Donal and manipulates Hi minialize to him.
Although that's bad, that's an interesting character treat's. You know,
she is becoming so determined to have this destiny path

(47:55):
for BT Laurent. She stops considering Daryl's feelings sintes cruel
to him. That was interesting to have that completely be ignored,
that it never happened, and then on top of that,
to not have her discussing how her face shift, discussing
how she feels about realizing that her.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Belief in Lauren's specialness has put him in this position to.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Not have her talking about throwing away her vows to
kiss Darryl. Nothing. She doesn't get to talk about anything
other than Ohio and fireflies.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, because it honestly feels like they couldn't get rid
of her fast enough and I hate that.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
No, Yeah, yeah, And I said I said this to
Kelly before, I think probably off camera, but we talked
about it before we saw this season that I had
this thought that maybe Isabelle was like an angel, not
a literal idol, but a figure sent to protect and
keep Daryl safe until Carol's got him. And the fact

(49:03):
that it literally is Carol's there as well there in
seconds is like, and that's a bit too on the nose.
She exists only to fill the gap, and as soon
as Carol's back, she's Gone's just there. The misogyny of that,
that you can only have one woman, big, important leading

(49:27):
women on screen at once is not good. And both
nuns were killed off after kissing guys. There's some hideous
misogynistic religious undertone there.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, it's like, you know, the it's like the virgin
final girl.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
And y the horror thing is like Yep. As soon
as soon as you have sex in a horror film,
you're going to die and that. Yeah, so but yeah,
we can talk about that for hours, of which the
next scene doesn't get much better. Yeah. Yeah, I have

(50:05):
just written in my notes I hate this scene. So
to explain, we see Darren Carol fleeing the nest, which
is burning and obviously completely destroyed, and they're fleeing and
Carol is chasing that and she's trying to keep up
with them, and she's trying desperately to engage with him,
and he's completely ignoring her. She tries so much. She says,

(50:29):
you know, I've got a plane, I've got somebody waiting.
Twice it's back home. Nothing. So you can see the
desperation that she says, Judith and Connie will be so
happy to see you. She's trying to link him to
the two people he thinks he'll react most to, he
cares most about. Still nothing, and he's angry, he's irritated,

(50:51):
he's brusque, and he just said let's go. It is
like he's and she even says to him, you know,
are you hearing this? And all he says is is
this way that's it. And she even asked tries to
ask him about Isabelle. She says, Oh, I know you
must have cared about her. Who is she? You know,
who's the kid?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
The woman flew like across an ocean.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, and and yeah, and then this is what we get.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Like, I I don't know why, you know what? Why
is the I know he's desperate to get to Lauren,
and I know he's his mind is not on the
Why is he acting like Carol's telling him he has
to come in from playing out with his friends?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You know exactly what it seems like.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, it's like she's ruining his fun and he's like,
oh come on, yeah when she's sorry, there's something massive
going on in my building.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Oh no, some kind of violence everything.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'll sure somebody's shouting him. You need to pause, yeah,
pause for a second.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Okay, we're gonna pause. Okay, sorry guys, we had to.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Uh yeah, we had a situation. Yeah, we're Yes, we
were talking about why darl is to Carl because I
don't there's no I don't understand the motivation to write
him like that. I don't understand why he would be

(52:32):
like that, you.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Know, yeah, yeah, especially like, you know, And I was
telling Don when she got back before we jumped in
again that I, you know, I was kind of scrolling
my phone. Well, uh, well she was away and I
opened up I opened up Twitter, and the first thing
I saw was the clip that John was talking about

(52:54):
where he, you know, Norman Reda's got all choked up
and everything, and he just described like he couldn't even
get the words out, and he was saying like he
was talking about the reunion, and he was saying, you know,
the one person that he needs was standing right there
and like and okay, so so why are you dis

(53:17):
grunting at her right now?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yes, it's the one person you need. You're so happy
to see her. Why are you angry? Yeah, exactly. I
don't know. Yeah, I think I have.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
I can share more feelings on this later in the episode. Yes, yeah,
but it was still it was really annoying.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, yes, it was. It was like a cold shower,
you know, a kind of cold like like, oh, okay,
so uh inside the Nestless song is fighting, but it
doesn't matter because Jenny walks in and says, we want
you have to leave your weapons down. It's over, and

(54:01):
the nest is ours. Meanwhile, back Daryl and Carol reached
the cave where they were meant to be meeting Laurent,
and it's empty. Darryl grabs some of the ash from
the fires. No, it's cold, they've gone, and he's furious,
and but he looks and there's a little hidden nook

(54:22):
in the wall where there's a stone covering it.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
He removes it and finds Laurent's rescue.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
So Lawrence has left him there to let him know
that they were there. So Dark's oh, okay, and I
did love the way they had this that Carol grabs
him and he's like, okay, look i'm here, I'm here.
We will do this together. And he's like yeah, okay,
and he sort of cams down. You know. She manages
to get that moment of connection with them. So it's

(54:49):
obviously sometime has passed because it's now that this all
happened at night and it's now daylight and they're walking
through some fields together and ARLs says, you know, they
must have come this way. We can't be too far
behind them, and but they're not rushing, they're just walking
and Carol now starts to get the conversation and she says,

(55:11):
so Isabelle and Darl says, yeah, we helped each other out.
I wouldn't have made it this far without her. And
I was like, yes because she's thinker bell And he says,
so that you've got a pilot, so you know, he
did hunt taken into what she'd said he would, just

(55:31):
not dealing with it in the moment. And he says,
what did you do? Did you just load up a
plane in flat and he said, it's a mistake. I
don't know if you noticed this. He says, he just
loaded up a plane and flew to me.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, I didn't notice that.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yes you will, yeah, okay, nobody else, nobody on the
editing And he said, you know what, want made to
go and she it was just a hunch, and Carol's
just like yeah, she left everybody for a hunch. She's

(56:07):
like yeah. And at that point Carol says, she stops
and she sees in the distance there's a chateau just.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
You know, beautiful trees and beautiful vista and she says.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Well, one thing, so for sure we're not in Ohio anymore.
And at this point I was still going, Hi, why
is everybody talking about what I didn't hunt collicked, know how,
And Daryl says, yeah, depas and Carol's like, what this
is you? There is a French word that means a

(56:42):
change of a change can make you look at things differently,
and Carol looks up and smiles. You get Carol's smile,
brod smile. And he's like what It's like, it's just
crazy you that you're speaking French. I'm here, you're here.
This is just crazy. And I was like, no, stupid,

(57:05):
that was very Darrell thing to say. And she tells
him about Cadron, that Cadron helped her, and he said
that to do it for the point, I was like okay,
because he doesn't know what Cadron has been through. So
he's just like okay. And then back in the nest,
now it's it's revolving who's tied to a chair because

(57:29):
the simns, yeah, it's about time. He's had enough, and
he he is Jenny. He's now in the receiving end
of the same questions of where's little Laurent. Janny wants

(57:51):
to know where Laurent is and and he's like, okay,
she's She has a really good line where she says, oh,
I can see.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Now how you lured in the sheep and oh that's
very good.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yes, she can see what la Sang is. And Lasag said, no,
we should. We shouldn't fighting with each other. We should
be fighting the dead. And you know we both need Lauren.
And I like the exchange as well. About Isabelle. He said, oh,
Isabelle won't tell you anything, and she's like, nope, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
There were something so skummy about the sang saying that, yes, like.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
It was just yeah, I know that I thought that
that moment, you know, that moment he stabs as a
Belle is the moment where he's just gone fool boddie.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
He's just like, yeah, pretense of anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
And I called it first people, you did from the
first moment he was on screen.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
You said that before that, before that, yeses just a name.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
So dear, well, we'll we'll make sure that that's that's
in your credit, dear, And she Jenay says, oh, you know,
here here my being relying on the truth that now
I realized the best way was to get people is
to do what your fool's confidence, you know, And and

(59:22):
Lasan says, he he fears for the future, and he
fears for all the people. And he said, when Laurent escaped,
he thought he began to doubt his faith, and he
thought God was on Laurent's side, but now he realizes
that it was so that this would happen. And Jacinta,

(59:42):
who's also being he looked on it. I'm like, oh,
he's losing his faith. And she's not impressed by that,
and don't impress her much. So Jenay says, so, so
if I find the boy, it will prove God is
on my side then, and and she tells the guards
to go and search the countryside firm and that's when

(01:00:04):
she says the line from the trailer, which they made
it look like she was saying it to darl but listen,
stop worrying about the future, because you're not going to
have one. Yeah, okay. We go back back to Carol
and are walking through the woods, and I thought, you know,
this short scene, which doesn't have a huge amount, I

(01:00:26):
don't know how long it is, but it's very short,
tells us more about Carol than in her past than
we've had in like ten years on The Walking Dead.
I was like, this is what we want. We want
them to be sharing these kind of little anecdotes about
their lives that show why their friends, show how deeply

(01:00:48):
connected they are that they're talking to each other about
this stuff. So Carol says her one French phrase the garden,
which we were currently enough, we were talking about last week.
She should have known lima American. Yeah, And she speaks
about her her French teacher, and that she used to
get wrapped on the knuckles and she wasn't very good

(01:01:09):
at maths either, which you know, gives us all this
little insider that Carol was not good at school and
she went through her life feeling not good at everything
until now she's discovered she's really good at surviving. And
she says, I I've never really been any place. She talks.

(01:01:31):
She talks about her her dad had a globe and
you know, she would look at it and think about the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
World, and I've never really been any place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
And Darryl sounds like a husband when he says we've
been places like she's accusing him of not taking her
on a cruise. Was so funny, and you know, she
says she always wanted to travel in Darrel last quite

(01:02:02):
not and a beautiful line. She says I became a
mom and that was my world. So they reached a
sort of muddy area and he spots that there's more
than two people at this point in the traps, that
somebody caught up with Laurent, and he yes, so he's worried.

(01:02:29):
And he also says, I remember to ask her about
the conversation on the radio where she said came back
and he said, oh, who was that? And she says, Oh,
it wasn't a person, it was a thing. It was
just a bad feeling. And I shouted boo, Yeah, I know.

(01:02:50):
It's just such sneaky writing. It's like what they did
with the Glen fake death.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
You don't need to trick your audience like that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
It's true, well, you know, not for me because I'm
watching it anyway, but for the Rick Fonds who are
desperately hoping.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
For it's The Walking Dead has done this so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
It's ridiculous, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Like, my my my PTSD is kind of my Walking
Dead PTSD is kind of getting the best to me,
because there is, and I apologize for bringing it from again,
but there is a major major answer revealed in this
season that that the audience hasn't seen yet. That I've
seen it, major thing revealed and the reason, like the

(01:03:36):
explanation of it is actually very meaningful, but it's so
it's not anything that would have been expected, and the
audience is going to go crazy with it, like just
tearing it apart.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I know it already, like it's really that's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
It, and it's it's like maybe I'm wrong, but it's
like The Walking Dead has done this so many times
and like, okay, another another great, another great example, probably
possibly the worst one ever, that was just so ridiculous
is it? Season yeah, season five, after Carol got taken

(01:04:20):
and Darryl came back to the church and like, I
think somebody, I think he ran into somebody outside and
they asked a few was alone and he said, bunch,
come on out, like talking to somebody like off camera,
and everyone was like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Who was he talking to? Like whata? What's so? What's
so surprising about this? And it was like nothing, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Yeah, and nobody cared that point.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yes, they just love to lead you down the garden
cross And I understand suspense and all that, but when
it keeps being this disappointing reveal, then you just stop caring,
So it's not a good thing long term because you
just go, oh, yeah, very clever, aren't you wonderful?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Anyway, so they they are walking through the the this
area and following the the tracks and it's like, I
don't even know how to describe it. It's like a
walkway with walkers on either side, sort of impaled on

(01:05:35):
and I couldn't it's because it was so dark, I
couldn't really see what it was like farm farm equipment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
And then at first, to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Me, honestly, if I first thought when I saw it
was that it almost looked like medieval torture device. Yes, yeah, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
It's very strange. But they walk through and they're in
a village. They find this this farmhouse. They break in,
guns drawn, and you can hear music playing very gently
in the background, and the song is La Paradise, which
is the title of this episode, which is Heaven for

(01:06:18):
You basically, and they break in and guns drawn, and
there's this lovely old couple sitting at the table and
they originally put their hands up and say, mister Dixon
and sister Isabelle.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Oh my god, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Once okay, so down looked up the Don's actually got
the lyrics for the song, and I I think it's
you know, when you were going through it to night
and I actually looked it up while you were well,
you were taking care of what you're taking care of.
My thoughts on it were I think the lyrics to

(01:07:05):
the song are important because it kind of is like
it's almost like a theme of kind of like what
the Carolyn Darryl spinoff is supposed to be about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah, totally so the lyrics the artists is Jillian Hill's,
and the lyrics are saying, one day, far from the
noise of the cities, I saw under a blue sky,
the sea surrounded an island where happy people lived. I
found paradise for you, a country where happiness is king.
In a corner of Tahibi. Obviously, life ain't hard. We're

(01:07:39):
more or less fishermen. We don't have a home. We
speak here or elsewhere. I found paradise for you, a
country work happiness is king. It's always Sunday. There flowers
we see them everywhere. The fruits make the branches bend.
Just raise your arm.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
I found paradise to you, a country where happiness is king.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
I found paradise, believe me. So yeah, I think this
is talking about Norman Redus has given a couple of interviews,
I think with European outlets recently where he talks about
that Darryl. First of all, he sort of said this
with Daryl, but then he said, Daryl and Carol are
looking at their lives and thinking, we're only reacting to

(01:08:19):
things where it's always fighting, fighting, fighting. Maybe there's a
different way to live. Maybe there's a quality of life
that we're missing, and I think we're meant to see
it in dB and F this old couple, that that
is the life they're leading. They're leaving Carol and Darrel.
Obviously they're leading a really nice life. They have you know,

(01:08:44):
fruits and vegetables. They have a little farm, they have chickens,
they have their their friends who have died are around
as walkers, and they just have happiness in the moment.
And I think that's why that's the song and the
title of the episode is it's about looking at the

(01:09:06):
world like that. Yes, the chances are we could get killed,
excuse me, any moment, but isn't that all the more
reasons to enjoy the minute you're in and to just
paradise in that moment. And I think that's that's really lovely, lovely,

(01:09:28):
you know that all the talk of happy ending, that's
a lovely vision of it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Yeah, for sure. And and it's I think everything about
this couple.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Was really important, hugely important.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Yeah, and that and oh my god, how lovable like
oh so, I mean, yeah, it goes a little, you know,
the goes a little unhinged at the other, but I mean,
but they're just both so lovable. Like in general, I
I loved both of these actors. They were just they

(01:10:02):
were fantastic. Yeah, I couldn't love them like I would
love if they just joined Carolyn Daryl and just followed them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I have the reveal bit of information, and this is
public information, so it's not I'm not revealing anything secret.
But when the pasting call went out for this couple,
they asked for a couple. So I don't know if
they really are a couple or not, but they wanted
a couple who were, you know, sixty five to eighty
each sort of thing had skills in the kitchen, which

(01:10:33):
there was an interesting request. But the skills in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
But the other thing that it said was the woman
would have to be open to having her hair.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Cutt Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
So yeah, I thought it applied to the couple at
the end of in season one, but the timing was wrong.
In season two, you know, the couple that Daryl saw
and abobcan but this and if we to go back
to thinking about that, it's very similar. He looks up
and he sees a couple enjoying breakfast together and just

(01:11:10):
enjoying each to this company and Daryl's blown away. Norman
mentioned it recently, Darl's blown away that people can still
live like this, and that's what d D and C
you are doing so very obviously with the short here,
they were saying, trying to draw parallel daryld and.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Call Yeah, yeah, for sure, and you know, and we'll
go we'll go through all of it, like there were
so many there were so many parallels to their lives
and it was just yeah, crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
So it's that that's the point I hand over to you,
I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Yeah, So we see them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
It's nighttime and Carolyn Darrell are eating dinner with the
couple and the guy said that he was out forging
for mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
And THEO is his name. I kept writing the I
in my notes because I didn't know his name. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Yeah, so THEO said he was out forging for mushrooms
and h and Carol says me, which means thank you,
it's good. But you couldn't say, where's the American? The uh,

(01:12:29):
the guy, you know, the guy praised flu and Laurent
said really nice things about them and and he, uh,
he told them that he gave them a car, and
Darryl asks if he can get them a car, and
he says that he has many and he can look
in the morning and they can see if they can
get one to work, and Daryl seems Daryl seems like

(01:12:53):
ready to go right then and there, and uh, but
Carol's like, yeah, let's let's just leave in the morning.
And he says, sister Isabelle knows best, smiling at Carol.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah. Yeah, I just have to say, you know, there
is no plot necessity for them to continue this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Yeah, why why wouldn't they just go, oh, no, this
is my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
In the morning, Darryl and Daryl and THEO are are
taking a look at the car and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
The guy I thought this was interesting. I thought this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Part was really interesting. He mentioned that he's fourth generation French. Yes,
and he said that we sold carrots to the Germans
in the First World War, Nazis in the second, and
American soldiers after that, and armies come and go and
and but you know they're they're still there and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Can we could we can we wave your red flog?

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Yes, sorry, I meant I actually put a note in
here to put my red flag up there, and I
totally forgot.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Yeah red flag.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Time, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's yeah, it's
a very interesting line there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
He mentions that he's got some ethanol in the garage,
and you know, Darryl finds a car that doesn't look
like it's in too bad a shape, but it needs
a battery and some houses and can.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I just interject there he says one of the trucks dolops.
People says, oh, I learned to drive in that truck
and learn a lot more like if you know what
I mean. And I was like, he seems obsessed with sex. Yeah,
so long, which I just thought, again, there's no need

(01:14:55):
for that to be there. But they thought, no, let's
just make.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Up a yeah, yeah, exactly, Sorry, Carl, I didn't even
catch that. I don't know how, but yeah, he said
he knows where to get some some of the parts
that they need. And and he says he can take
Darryl with him. Carol and Dede are chopping up vegetables

(01:15:21):
in the kitchen. I loved this scene so much.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
She did.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Says that that Laurent is very fond of of Darryl
and uh and of his aunt Isabelle. And and Carol
said that, you know, mentions that Darryl's a really good influence,
and Dede said that, you know the way he talked
about you two and uh. And Carol says, why do
I get the feeling you're trying to tell me something?

(01:15:48):
And she tells Carol that Laurent told her that he
thinks that Darryl loves Isabelle, but he won't say it
because if he does, he won't be able to leave, which.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Which is interesting because he did not say it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
No, he did not, but he.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Told Carol that he loved her.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
So doesn't quite work, but you know, Carol says, it's
it's more complicated than that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I really really hope that there's some post interview. By
the time this comes out, there's some post interview post
episode interviews with Melissa. I would love to know what
she thinks Carol was thinking at that moment. She does
stop for a second, and obviously she's like surprised that Okay,
Darnald's in love with this woman. Okay, but there felt

(01:16:49):
like there was so much more going on as well,
when she said, it's more complicated than that, Like what
is she thinking there, Carol? Or is she being is
a bit? You know, it's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Yeah, and she she almost like the look on her face,
I mean she almost looks uncomfortable. Yeah, and it's like,
you know, she's this woman is clearly thinking that that
that Carol and Daryl are in love.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
And you know, she says Abell, And meanwhile.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Carol's like, Carol looks very uncomfortable with the information that
that Daryl could possibly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Be in love with this Bell.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Yeah, yes, yes, and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
So yeah, she Carol said.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Carol asked DEDI how long she and THEO have been married,
and she said THEO she said they aren't married, and
that her husband died years ago, and she said her
children and grandchildren, everybody is gone, and Carol said, you
seem so happy, and Dedee said she wasn't happy for
a long time and that like Darryl, she was torn

(01:18:03):
between the world she lost and the one she found.
But one must look for a way to keep living,
which is just like basically exactly what what Norman Ritas
has been saying in a lot of these interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, I don't like I don't like the fact that
d d is saying that she, you know, she was
torn between her old and are new, but they embraced
to new and moved on. So it's like saying, so
Donald to take it that's well, no, it wasn't. It's
a very it's a very mixed message we're getting about

(01:18:34):
that whole aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
And Carol said, you know, it's it's not so easy
sometimes and and d ed said that reasons are everywhere,
And just then.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
I've just realized, sorry, like just came to me. That's
what the mother superior said to Darnald's when she was dying.
She said, yeah, or what's that effect? Signs are everywhere,
but something the same kind of thing. Reasons are everywhere,
exactly what it works.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Wow, that is really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Wow. Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
So so just then Darryl and THEO come through the door,
and yeah, they're listening to uh to Paradise for You again.
Carol and Dede were listening to it, and they and
THEO and d d start dancing, and Carolyn Daryl just
kind of watch them smiling.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
They're very cute and that is such a cute scene.
And he says, a couple of different people, you know,
who also have seen this episode, as you said the
whole I have said, oh, are we meant to just think?
Because she says, well, I'm not my to feel Are
we meant to think he's just platonic? Was like, no,

(01:19:56):
he says when he comes in, he says, my love
our song. So yeah, it's definitely a love thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
And you know, and and I I thought that I
thought the.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Mention of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
You know, my husband died years ago, and like, you know,
Carol's husband died, her second husband isn't dead, but she
left him.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
It's just it's it's interesting. Yeah. So the next.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Scene I love so much next to the reunion that this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Is probably my favorite scene.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
So funny, it's, uh, we see Carol and Darryl and
and THEO. And earlier when when THEO and I'm sorry
I forgot to mention this, when THEO told Darryl that
he knew where to get some stuff and he could
take him. You know, he mentioned, let me just get
my walking shoes. And so we see Carol and Daryl

(01:20:56):
and THEO, and Darryl is pushing THEO in a wheel barrow.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
He says, glad he put on his blocking boots.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
This is the comedy we want. This is the word
we love. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
It was still great, and he's a and THEO is
is waving at the at the walkers and saying hi
to them as they go past them.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
He's like, you know, hey, that's my Dennis day.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
And and he explains to them, you know, Darryl will
THEO first tells him that, you know, the whole street
everyone's dead, basically, and Daryl asks why they didn't just
bury them, and and he said, it's, you know it,
they're mostly old people, and it's too hard for old
people to bury old people, so they so they honored

(01:21:46):
them by locking their gates and paying their respects as
they walk by, which reminded me. It was very it
was very reminiscent of Princess.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Yes, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Finally they arrive at their destination and THEO tells them
to stay there and he'll go in first. Carol tells it,
tells Daryl that SETI said that Laurent idolizes him, and
Carol said that, you know, he thinks he'll do really
well in Commonwealth. And it's interesting that she didn't say

(01:22:24):
anything about about Isabelle, you know, yeah, yeah cool.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
But.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Carol thinks he'll do Carol says she thinks Lauren will
do really well in Commonwealth. And Darryl says, you know, well,
he's got friends in Paris. In Paris, you know, maybe
you could just stay here and you know, and Judith,
like Carol was like, what about the kids back home,
like Judith and and everyone, and and he's like that's different,

(01:22:54):
and he basically says he doesn't he doesn't want to
lose him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
And and Carol said.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Carol asks him if he's afraid of ending up like her,
and he just like he just gets this look on
his face, like the stunned look on his face. He's like, no, no,
I'm afraid of that. And then THEO comes in and
grabs them. But what were your what were your thoughts
on this?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
It's a very it's very difficult seemed to read because
it's like Daryl's saying he doesn't want the responsibility of Lauren,
and then Carol cuts through it and is like, well,
you're responsible for kids. He's like you no, I don't
want to lose him, and he I don't know what

(01:23:42):
that obviously, Carol. We know Carol hates herself and think
she's broken and unlovable, and obviously she's like, oh, okay, you
don't want to be like me, you don't want to
have lost kids and you're but I don't know what
Darald's meant to think. In response to that, he's like stunned,
like no, of course up. But he stepped towards her
as if he's about to have a conversation and say

(01:24:04):
something else, you know, come towards her and be more
not confrontational, but more direct, and they're interrupted, and I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
I can't get a handle on whear was going.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
And when I was watching this again last night, I
I was kind of heartbroken because I remembered that Darryl
basically feels responsible for both Sophia and Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Oh yeah, and that's a great call, great call.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Yeah, And to hear her say that, just it's like
I think it probably just kind of just kind of
shocked him. You know, he just like he didn't he
didn't know how to respond, like because he does.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I don't think he necessarily.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
I don't think he thinks that Carol blames him, but
he blames himself. Yeah, yeah, and you know he's like,
and I think her saying that really hurt him, not
not like Carol was hurting him, but like really noted
his guilt, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and maybe it's sort of made him
more aware that Carol blames herself that he's like, hang on,
you know what I mean, because he's like, I'm a
terrible person. I've lost two kids. And he's like, wait,
are you bringing yourself? Wait? Why it's my fault? Who
can blame their stund themselves more?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Right? Exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Yeah, I think that kind of just yeah, I think
that kind of caught him by surprise. And yeah, he
just and I don't think he's ever told her that
he feels responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
No, No, I think you're right. You need to have
a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Yeah, but we but we know that he does because
of you know, Norman Readers has talked about that an interview, Yeah,
about how he feels responsible for that. And you know,
he even said that when Henry died it was like
like his worst nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
That yeah, you know that he let her down again.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
But so yeah, THEO comes out and brings them in
and they're checking out this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Gorgeous oh yeah car in the garage. Oh my god.
I was just ruling over this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I didn't catch the I didn't catch what kind of
car it was.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
No, I don't know. My knowledge of cars is not
such that I could recognize it from from that kind
of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
No, yeah, but yeah, it was just a beautiful Vinage car,
luxury car.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
And they there's a new guy. I missed his name.
I know, we got I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Didn't catch his name either, Mafid. I think he only
says it, you know, in passing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Well, he he asks if they're Americans, and they said yes,
and he said he likes the US and his brother
lives in Florida, And THEO like kind of pats his
back patronizingly and and says says that THEO says that
the guy and his wife go every year and stay
at at the Fountain Blue, and so you know, the

(01:27:24):
guy's really, you know, not very with it. And Carol says,
Florida is really nice. And the guy asks if they
stay at the Fountain Blue, and Daryl says it's on
their bucket list.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
They've done all funny lines.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
It's so good, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Hilarious, so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:27:46):
And the guy says, to uh, to tell them he
sent them and to ask for room twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
It's the best that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Comes up a game in future, I know, you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
Know he uh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
He then shot off and says he's got to have
the car working by Monday so he can get to work,
and THEO says he forgets everything, even the hungry ones.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Carol and Darryl are then, you know, back back home.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Working or at the couple's place, working on the car,
when Dede brings them some tea and Daryl's asking for
some ethanol, and Dede mentions it's in the barn, and
Carol offers to go help her, which I thought was
interesting because she already had. I mean, do you think

(01:28:38):
that she was trying to like, do you think she
was trying to kind of face her fears again and
try to like, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Think maybe she wasn't taking it through. I think she
was just in a minute going yeah, because Carol has
been in Barnes before and not reacted, so she maybe thought,
in this circumstance, that's going to be fine waiting, which
I loved. I don't know why it's only seen to
bring in beloved, yes, yeah, and I think she just

(01:29:05):
doesn't want Dede to be lugging ethanol about you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
Yeah, yeah, Well she she offers to go help her,
and they approach the barn and Carol starts having another
flashback and panics. It's it's not as strong of a
flashback this time, like she's not seeing Sophia right there
with her, and we hear mostly voices and just like

(01:29:29):
one quick scene of like Sophia's feet shuffling along and
then that's it, and uh so it's it's not as severe.
But Dede kind of snaps her out of it and
asks her to talk to her, and Carol said she
has she had a little girl, and DEDI said that

(01:29:51):
she got through it and she will too, and they
share a hug and meanwhile, like Darryl is just is
kind of watching them, and I'm just like, I'm wondering
what what's going through his mind? Is he's watching Carol
crying to this woman.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
You know, I'm so glad, you know, somebody is there
to comfort Carol. It's just too nice, like a mother figure.
Just it's just lovely to see.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
And I I'll share more of my thoughts on that
in a second, but.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
We then see Carol.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Oh, yeah, this is this is you know, one of
the other best scenes of the episode. Carol is rubbing
the engine trying to trying to get it going, and
Darryl says, you know, just just give it a little gas,
not not too much, and she, uh, she gets it
some gas and he tells her that she's she's giving
it too much and he said just a little, and

(01:30:56):
she says that was a little, and he says it's
too much, and she's like, maybe you're too much, and
then he says what She's like, what what?

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
What? What? Back and forth, and it's so funny. I
loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
They are such children, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
THEO approaches them and tells them that, you know, don't stop.
It's a good show. You're like an old married couple.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Yes, And I want to say that he's saying that
in response to dear dynamic, to what he's seen. It's
not because he knows about Isabelle and what Laurent says.
We don't know if he's told him. It's purely in
response to dear dynamic that he's witnessing, which is like
an old n couple, which.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
One half of an old married couple exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
He recognizes. Yes, game, you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Know this all started.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
This, this little bickering started because Darryl was just being
snippy with Carol. And I'm kind of wondering because we
just saw him watching as she was like crying and hugging.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I'm wondering if he is, if.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
He's upset because like he's always had a problem with
her getting her to talk to him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Yeah, yeah, that could be. And I like the fact
that Carol says, maybe you're too much this hard like
getting out this stuff that she's like, Oh, okay, he's
in love with a woman that he's met for two
months and he's not mention that. He All he said
to me was, oh she was you know, she helped
me get you know, she helped me, that was it.

(01:32:46):
So I think they're both saying the same thing. They're
both annoyed about the same thing, like why aren't you
talking to me right there? You know, he's annoyed and
she's annoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
I yeah, So what happens? Yeah, so just then a
jeep approaches and THEO tells them to hide. So they
get in the car, and you know, Carol, Carol thinks
that they're going to kill him, but they're apparently just
picking up like some veggies or something, you know, putting

(01:33:20):
up my red flag hair.

Speaker 1 (01:33:22):
Yes, And.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
So later that night, Carol and uh, they you know,
they gave Carol and Darryl a couple of bedrooms and
and they're they're hanging out in the room where Darryl's sleeping,
and and Carol's going through some of of the couple's
photos and she says, I guess Janey won the battle.
And she said, I know you had people there, and

(01:33:48):
and Darryl said, Isabelle and Laurent. And Carol then hands
him something that Judith made for him.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
I couldn't figure out what it was exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Yeah, well, figurine. It looks like it's where the helmet
and going yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
He asks how she is, which was nice because when
she brought her up before, you know, he.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Said nothing, he remembered she give bue yes, and heyes,
how she is?

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
And Carol says that, you know, she she didn't want
Carol to go, but hardbr knew she had to. And
Carol said that she's just surprised that he got so
close to people there, and he said it's hard to explain,
and she said, well, if you ever want to try,
and then she goes to leave, and she's about to

(01:34:39):
close the door and Darryl stops her and tells her
he's glad, He's glad she came.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
And then she says, I am too, and then walks out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Yeah too little, too late, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Yeah right, And it was, yeah, my heart kind of
broke a little in the scene because it was like
Carol was like, you know, acknowledging that she's not entirely
sure that Daryl wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
To come home. Yeah, you know, it's really really sad.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Yes, But.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
In the morning, Carol and Darryl are packing up and
THEO tells them that they should have some of Deedie's
truffle eggs before they go. He said, they're like sex
on the tongue and then he said, sorry, sister, putting
up the red flag again. Do you know how hard

(01:35:40):
it is, Like truffles are so expensive because they're so
hard to find.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Yeah, you need a pig to find them, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Yeah, yeah you yeah, yeah, pigs are used to find them.
And it's and they're just offering them truffle eggs like
like it's no big deal. It's yeah, red flag and
but but of course, you know, Dede was making the

(01:36:09):
truffle eggs and you know d D d D was pure, so.

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Yes, but they're they're eating. This was so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
They're eating they're eating the truffle eggs, and Carol says,
Carol lets out a Jesus the couple.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
She's like, I'm like, sorry, these are the best eggs
I've ever had.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
And uh, Carol and Darryl, you know, they thank them
for for everything, and Dede asks them what their plans
are after they find Laurent it they'll stay in Harris that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
That was a great moment of tension because they just
look at each other like, yeah, we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Know what yeah, pretty much, and uh, you know, Daryl
said they're still working it out. They then hear a
car approach, and Carol and Darrell run to the window
to check out the situation, and when they turn around,
THEO is pointing a shotgun at ben No but like

(01:37:10):
we like you fel what the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Hell you're ruin?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Day oh man? And uh, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
D d of course is shocked, like she's clearly not
in on this, and Darryl immediately asks him what what
they offered him? And Dedi asks him why, and he said,
for for you, my love for us, and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I found paradise for you. He wants paradise. He doesn't
want some.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Carol asks if if he knows who they are, that
the people that are coming, and he said, armies come
and go. You don't survive by picking the losing side. Yes,
And Dedie gets up and and tells Carol and Darryl
to come with her, and then she just takes the
gun really easily from theo's hands and calls him a fool.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
I know. She clearly runs things around there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
And so they run to another window to check out
the situation, and I think they're in the basement and yeah,
Jane walks in and they you know, Daryl mentions that
it's like Jane Janey in four or five of her guys,
and uh, Dedie gives Daryl the shotgun and tells them
where to hide.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Janey walks in.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
And says, you know why I'm here, and Dede tells
her that they left, and THEO says they they tried
to assure them, but they were suspicious. Meanwhile, Carol and
Daryl are kind of hiding and surveying the situation, and
she says they're going to search. She says they're going
to search the barn, and then Darryl says cover me

(01:38:59):
and heads outside to get to the car. And then
Janey Shane sees the egg sitting on the on the
table and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
Just really smart move.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Yeah, uh you know, asks her, may I and she
takes a you know, she takes a mouthful of some
eggs and and comments on how good they are.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
And here, I'm I'm just thinking, you know, she's she's
just trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Be an asshole, and uh, Darryl is attempting to sneak
over to the car and motions Carol over, and Janee
tells the couple that the people she's looking for are
very dangerous and they're at war, and she asked if
they know who she is, which is funny because you
know Daryl had just asked the same thing. And Dede

(01:39:49):
says that her father warned her about people like Janee
who came to their village looking for children to put
on trains, basically comparing her to the Nazis, and they
looks offended by this.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
Carol and Daryl are still sneaking around outside.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Darryl tries to grab his weapons from the car, that's
what it looks like he's trying to do. Then he
sees one of the scarios scary is and he ducks
behind a wall and alerts Carol and grabs a pipe.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Inside.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Dedie says, I is telling Janey, I told you they
left hours ago. And Jana says, then, why are these
eggs still warm? Those damn eggs they just.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
She uh.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
She says they're there somewhere, and one of her guys says,
we'll find them, and then Jana says, is so god.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Damn smart, like this woman is just brilliant, yes, and
then says, no, let them do it. You know, at
first they know who she was referring to.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
And and she said, if there's one thing, the dead
are good for sniffing out the living.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
So she was talking about the couple.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Y and the Yeah, they would find them.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
Yeah, and then uh yeah, so the guy gets ready
to shoot them, and then Carol does.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Carol busts in and just starts blasting, I need to
get time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
I need to get one of those clips of Danny DeVito.
And it's always sunny in Philadelphia, so I just start blasting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Boston.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Yeah. And she starts blasting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
She hits one of the guys, and Jane and the
rest flee and you know, she's just taken dudes out
one at a time, and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Dedie and THEO are still crouching behind the kitchen island.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
She's looking around and then gets cornered by Jane and
two of her guys, and you know, all their guns
are drawn on her, and so she's pretty much helpless
in that moment. And Jane looks at her and says
that she sees judgment in Carol's eyes, and Carol says,
more like confusion as to how someone like her could

(01:42:21):
turn into this, and Na says, you know what else
I've seen? And she starts talking about the outbreak, and
she said the art was protected and the wealthy and
powerful got to safety, and you know, while all the
little people died, and that she saw her husband devoured
five feet away from her.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Through the glass.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
And she asks Carol if she's ever known that kind
of loss, and Carol, just like Carol just laughs indignantly.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
The closed proption says lost humorously should say exactly, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Yeah, now my life' is Alvin ben Rose's yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Darrow just then Darryl busts in and kills Shane's guys,
and Carol grabs one of the guy's serum shooters and
shoots Hine right in the back with an arrow and
she can't pull it out.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
She's trying to pull it out and she can't get
to it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
And she basically just quickly starts changing into a superwalker.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
It's almost she's been wearing a leather jacket.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Yes, but it is gross. I mean, this is like
kind of exploding.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
And it reminded me of them the fly, you know, yes, fly,
that kind of posturally looking face.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Yeah, yeah, her face is coming off, yeah pretty much,
but you know, she but she just dies.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
She doesn't actually turn.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
So I thought that was interesting that, like, so if
you shoot a person that's alive, then they just die.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Yeah, they have to be gay first.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Yeah, yeah, that was that was interesting. I didn't quite
understand that. And then they go into the kitchen and
see that Jane's guys killed Deti, which was heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Yeah, she was one of one of the most likable
one episode characters for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Definitely. Yeah, but you know, it's the law. We've got
to kill them all. Yeah, and you can't leave anybody alive.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
Yeah, And uh, THEO is is, you know, just huddled
over her crying, and Carol and Daryl are burying Dedi
as you know, because THEO is not going to lock
her up. Carol and Darrell are bearing beds as Theo's

(01:44:54):
kneeling by her grave, and uh, and then they just
they take off and that night they're packing up stuff
and then Darryl finally decides to open up to Carol
a little bit and says that when when he first
met Isabel, he didn't think much of her, and he

(01:45:14):
they just they basically just needed something from each other.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
She needed his help and he needed a way home.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
So they made a deal and he said, Laurent became
the glue that held them together.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Sound familiar, yes, he said, you know, and Carol says, yes,
I do. Perhaps that was that wasn't the tone, but
that's what I rand. She's like, that's unfamiliar. Yes, I'm
watching this.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, they're they're they're comparing this
to the Kingdom and and Henry.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
Yeah, and I think that's very deliberate. I don't think
that's like over reading into it or so. I think
that's a very real comparison.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Yeah, yeah, I do too. And and this is.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
I thought this was very interesting because he said, you know,
very He looked at her and just very seriously said,
I never ever stopped trying to get home to you.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
But the longer that I stayed, the harder it got.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
And that immediately took me back to Carol visiting him
in the woods. Yeah, and you know, telling him that
she wasn't going to be able to visit him as much,
and you know that that Ezekiel and Henry needed her more.
And yeah, and yeah, so I thought, is that was that?

(01:46:39):
Were you kind of thinking about that too?

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
No, No, I wasn't. I was I like that He
specifically said to you because all the other times you're
talking about my people and whatever when he's talking to Isabelle.
But when he's talking to Carol, he can be open
enough to say, I was coming home to you. Yeah,
was in my mind the whole time, which I really like.
But then you know he's admitting that, and that's what

(01:47:04):
Carol said to him. You know, I was surprised that
he's got so close to people, and he's saying, you know,
it got it got harder because he had when he
thought this is where he was going to be. So
he well, Okay, I'm developing relationships with these people, then
maybe this is where I should say.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
I don't like that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Darryl really thinking that, but that's obviously what they're they're
trying to say is that Daryl was conflicted and started
to think that maybe he should stay there. Yeah, and
I felt like they were.

Speaker 3 (01:47:42):
Really trying to draw a parallel between between that, you know,
Henry and Carol and definitely rant Daryl and Isabelle.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Yes, yes, that draw of a child that you start
to see as your own and become as a package
deal kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and uh, you know it, so he says,
it's just the longer he's I say, the harder gut
and Carol says you loved her, and he doesn't really
say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
No, I watched this very intensely because this week someone
said to me that Daryl nodded. I watched it several times.
He doesn't, you give nothing away, just like by you know,
doesn't doesn't indicate anything yet.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
And you know, we also never heard we heard Ezekiel
tell Carol that he loved her, but she know we
never heard her say it back.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
And I think that's a very deliberate choice.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Yeah, Daryl and Carol are the only two people they
have said to whose two people? You know, I mean
the only person each other has said, I want you too?
And I think that's a very deliberate writing choice to meet. Yeah,
and you know, there was no reason why Daryl wouldn't
have said it to it about you know, you could
given if you took this scene on its own, you

(01:49:11):
could say, oh, well, maybe he didn't want to hurt
Carl's feelings or he didn't want to admit it, but
he was alone with Isabelle and he still didn't see it. Then, Yeah,
if he was going to he would or even on
her death base he might have said it feel to
make her feel better, even but he never died.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
But then he uh he says, you know, Laurn's coming
home with us, right, and then Carol smiles and says, yeah,
I know, so Darryl's changed his mind. Yeah, and uh
so back at the nest, Sabine and uh and that
was that scientist guy, right, yes, yeah, okay, they Yeah,

(01:49:52):
they tell a sign that Jane is dead, and what
was saying says she went after the boy and now
she's dead. So that's base proof that God is on
their side. Yes, and Sabine says Marian's way was not enough,
but neither is yours, and Sinda says, so now what
And then we see the four of them walking into uh,

(01:50:15):
into a gathering crowd at the nest, and was saying,
approaches everyone, and he says, all is forgiven, my friends,
and he then says, poufois de vivant, and and I
was I was very proud of myself that I that
I that I actually understood a lot of this French. Yeah,

(01:50:36):
I didn't need to translate it, but you know, he
basically welcomes them to the Union, and he says, let
us merge our dreams for a better, stronger future, and
Head is the promised Land, and Laurent will take us there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
And then he says in French, let's find the child.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Ah, because they never there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Exactly. Well, the saying is a big bad.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
He's a big bad, He's one. It's I do love that.
It's a very sort of Game of Thrones revolving big
bad who is the true you know? You know, and
like we said, you know, Jinny was super clever, but
that doesn't she hasn't right, so you know, being clever
is not enough to get to keep you going. There

(01:51:26):
has to be something else, and there's an element of
luck and and it's like the real life you know,
dictators or whatever. There's dictators and they're overthrown and it's
a dictator and they're overthrown in you know. I like
that they were sort of echoing that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, it was an
interesting ending for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean I thought it was a
great episode in general.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
I really, I really. I had spoken before about feeling
that there was previous sept we had two different those
that were competing against each other and then and in
here they literally sort of meet. At the moment Daryl
and Carroll are reunited, it's like there, that's the that's

(01:52:12):
the previous half, and then this is the you have.
But it feels like Darryl was trapped in the old
half for a bit. When he's being rude to Carol,
he's still this version of Daryl and it takes him
a while to come back to the real Daryl we know,
which is interesting. But I loved that the way they

(01:52:35):
used d D and THEO is very obviously a parallel
for Darryl and Carroll and a foreshadowing a sort of
this is what the life they could have is, and
what they're fighting for really is to be able to
have a life of a peace for the Although interestingly
Carol had piece that's commonwealth, she didn't like it and

(01:52:58):
she left, so it's real only.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Well she wasn't totally she didn't have a lot of
internal peace because.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
No, she didn't have internal piece. That's intact, she had
external there was nothing chasing her. So maybe it's about
them dealing with this stuff that's giving them internal turll moil.
And you speak internal turmoil, I say that see time
and once that's resolved, they can have peace and you know,

(01:53:25):
enjoy a life, enjoy life's little moments more.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
You know. I thought, oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
I was just going to say. In the scene where
they're eating the truffle eggs, there was a bit of
a dialogue and I thought, why are they having this dialogue?
And I thought, is this another sort of multi layered
where they were talking about truffles and they're how hard
they are fine? And they said it takes patience and
a keen eye and patience, and DEDI says, oh, yes,

(01:53:56):
only for special occasions, and I was like, that is
something I was wondering if basically they were talking about
what Dane talked about about the rareness of love, like
rare love is so rare you have to be patient
and wait for it and keep an eye and don't
lose it when you find it. Kind of like I'm
maybe doing too much into that, But it was just
a weird couple of saying this.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
I thought, yeah, I'm I'm just I'm still amazed that
they thought it was a special enough occasion to make
trouble eggs for Carol and Daryl.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Maybe it's been a while since they had visitors. Yeah,
maybe that's.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
That's a good point, but it's what were we just
talking about before that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Because I had a sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Kind you had a thought okay, yeah, no I remember. Okay,
so I know I had talked about to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
You and and and uh a couple of our friends
and our group chat about this before.

Speaker 1 (01:54:57):
But you know, as much as.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
I absolutely hate that, Carol and Daryl's dynamic remind is
it's almost reminiscent of Season eleven, which was terrible. But
you know, the more I thought about it, I feel like,

(01:55:21):
as much as it sucks, I almost felt like it
was necessary in a way. Yeah, because Carol basically flew
there to find Darryl because she doesn't have peace without him. Yes,
and all of this stuff came up while he was gone,

(01:55:42):
and she he can't be the one to heal that
in her. She needs to heal that herself.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
It's if they were all like you know, if if
they were all like lovey dovey and everything was perfect
and you know, then I think she would be relying
on him to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
That's a great point, yes, because it's always the same.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
You know, when people talk about ships and stuff about
you know, they save each other. That was one of
the taglines. But you shouldn't. You shouldn't be relying on
somebody else to say that. You have to save yourself
and they have to settle the things that are inside
of them. They asked for questions for the panels this

(01:56:30):
week at the New York Comiccord, and one of the
questions I submitted was internally standing in the way of
Daryl's happy ending.

Speaker 4 (01:56:39):
And it's the same for Carol, that it's not each other.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
It's not that people keep dying and whatever. It's something
inside themselves that is stopping them. And it's exactly what
we said in that moment where they're bickering at the car.
They both want the other to open up to them
and that will be a way to heal things within themselves,
like tell me your problems and that will help you,
but they try to still trying to solve them on

(01:57:05):
their own instead of going to look be open with
each other, tell each other exactly what you're thinking, what
you're going through, what you're feeling, and then you yourself
will start to process it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:16):
And they're not processing their trauma.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
That's very psychological.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
But yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:57:23):
It's you know, because obviously Carol, Carol is there with Darryl, Like,
she's not going to just be like, we're not friends anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
I'm going to go home.

Speaker 3 (01:57:32):
You know, it's not like that she loves him, whether
you want to argue that it's platonic love or romantic love.
She you know, she loves him and he's the most
important person in the world to her.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
Yes, so he could.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
Be like, you know, calling her every name in the
book and she's still not going to leave him. No, yeh,
he's But so I think like she needed to find
him in a way. I think she needed to find
him and then get kind of a reality check, like.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Just seeing him is going to fix everything.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
No, yeah, yeah, it's uh so yeah, I kind of
you know, And that's not me trying to like make
make myself feel better about you know, him.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
Dumb. But I really think that that that's the case
that she just has.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
I still think there should have been a scene of
Darld just expressing not necessarily his gratitude, but his wonder
how you did this? How do you know? It's incredible?
And I would also have liked to have seen them
both acknowledge that, and Carol slightly does it. But this

(01:58:53):
is a this is a miracle, the fact that we
found each other again. Something in this universe wants to
stick together, and you know we should listen to that.
I believe each other. It's not working. I would have
liked to have seen that more more verbalized, but that's
that's how I always feel with the walking days, that

(01:59:13):
I want more stuff crely verbalized, and they're doing better
at that in this because obviously Carol is is really
starting to deal with herself. But I would like to
see more of it from Darryl side. I think that
he will say, you know, the fact you came here
and as you said, you would say this if it
was platonic as well, you would just be astounded and

(01:59:36):
blown away a that she managed it and be that
she was willing to do that to risk that only
on the idea that he might not be okay, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
There's hopefully that they'll talk about a lot more of
this stuff, you know, come see.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
I have a feeling they will.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
So who who's getting your angel wings and suspenders this week?

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
Well? Angel wings has to go for d D. She's
the just absolute the business giving Carol a hug. Carol's
needed that hug. Jerry, Jerry, you know, Jerry gave her
had the hug. And then is it Magna gave her
a hug that she needed as well. And Season a
Living That was a good one. But yeah, I just

(02:00:27):
think d d is a sweetheart who saw a possibility
even though she thought Darryl Carol was Isabelle. I think
she just saw two people with the chance of grabbing
onto something beautiful and she wanted that for them, even
though they were strangers. So that's lovely. And I'm afraid
I'm afraid the Suspenders are going to have to go

(02:00:48):
to de and his walking boots. You just don't do that, man, Yes, Andy,
and you got he's come up and see because he's
what he's beloved that but still, dude, Yeah, yeah, with
the Nazis. Never signed with the Nazis. It's a simple

(02:01:09):
rule in life.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
I I want to give Carol the angel Wings, but
you know it's it's.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
Hard to give either Carol or Daryl.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
Yeah, either the angel Wings or the Suspenders, because you
know they're they're the main focus. But I so I'll
go ahead and give them to both Carol and and
Todd m h. And I'll give the uh yeah and
and yeah, the the suspenders are growing at you. Yeah,

(02:01:49):
he loved you at first, should be round in the
wheelchair and you were talking about you know, sex on
the tongue.

Speaker 1 (02:01:56):
And then he had to then he had to.

Speaker 5 (02:02:00):
Go all like, yeah, yeah, we do know that whenever
Darald Carl turned up with something nice people are going
to die within the d So it wasn't inevitability with
Ginny turning up, but he could have done it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
It could have hopped without him betraying these nice people.

Speaker 1 (02:02:20):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And he betrayed a non Yeah,
I mean at.

Speaker 3 (02:02:26):
Least it wasn't at least it wasn't as fast as
with with Nat.

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
And and Rick.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
Oh the second he lays eyes on him.

Speaker 1 (02:02:39):
Man, that Rick Grimes death curse is strong.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
Someone posted in one of the front groups a picture
of Rick and Daryl and they're like, what what would
happen if they showed up in town? And like everybody
would immediately die, So.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
All of everything everybody did. The worst one for me
is the hobby that Donald was there, d every single
person in the abby dying except for the two people
that escape, like, wow.

Speaker 3 (02:03:06):
Yeah exactly, you know it's it's somebody else posted like
a picture of Megan and they're like, won't happen if
you showed up? I'm like, he would die immediately because
Victor would take him into the monster tunnels where the
monsters sleep, and he would not shut the fuck up,

(02:03:27):
and he would get he would get he would get
got by the monsters real fast. But uh yeah, I yeah,
great episode, definitely are I think it's our favorite, both
of our favorites.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
Interesting how episode four seemed to always be a good
one for series for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, of course it was. In the
Ones who Live it was fantastic one.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
We just a reminder you can, uh, I'm gonna flash
them really fast if you're watching us on if you're
watching us on YouTube, there's our little logo in the
corner there, the Darryl Dixon Podcast. You can find us
on your favorite podcast app, and of course if you're
listening to us, you can find us on YouTube at

(02:04:19):
YouTube dot com, slash at Cyborg Queen Media and as
a reminder, we some of our the other podcasts that
we're currently that we currently have going on right now
are the Teacup TV podcast, Death Crunch, our Hysteria podcast,
and of course From From Series podcast and that one.

(02:04:41):
We have an after show for right now on Sunday
nights as well, and if you come to our after
show you can enter to win a cameo giveaway from
Dave Alpay And I've got another giveaway actually involving kind
of related to David.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
I'll pay its character Jade that I'm really excited.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
It's not as big, but I'm I'm really excited about it,
So I'll be announcing that shortly too, and I'm super
super pumped.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
But don did you have any other thoughts to.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
I'm all good, yeap for you. Well, let's hopefully yes.

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
And as a reminder, I think I explained this before,
but with the with this show, because this errors at
the same time is From and with with From, it's
it's a little bit more competitive. So if if I
don't get the if I don't get the from recap
up like right as soon as the episode drops that night,

(02:05:44):
it's never going to get seen. So I kind of
have to wait to uh, I kind of have to
wait and put up the uh this recap kind of
later in the day on Sunday, and then the podcast
recap on Monday and so this. So there's always gonna
be a little bit of a delay unfortunately, but you know,
that's what we're stuck with. So but thanks everyone for

(02:06:09):
joining us. We only have a couple more weeks left.
Thanks for hanging in there, and we'll see you soon.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Bye bye.

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