The Ones Who Live Episode 3 LIVE Recap

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Hello, Hello, what's up everybody? Happy Monday morning? How are you
done? I'm doing okay, lot'sbetter than it was. I thank you.
How are you doing? Kelly?Oh? I'm tired, man,
I did not sleep. That's That'snot why I'm wearing the sunglasses. I'm

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my eyes are my eyes are botheringme again? I'm I'm glad that.
I'm glad. We're into March,so hopefully they'll settle down very soon tonight.
I won't have to put these thingson again for like another year,
for another nine months. But I'mjust realizing it's morning and we're Don and

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Kelly. It's the new Regius inredis in Philbin? Was it not Kelly
and Ryan or Kelly and oh yeah, well yeah now it's now it's Kelly
and Don. We're your break forshow host exactly. I uh yeah,

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this is actually this is It's kindof funny because we we went live last
night, but it's like everyone waswatching the askers, even people in our
chat room here. Yeah. Idon't really watch those anymore, but so

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what did you? So? Whatdid you think of this episode? Do
you know? I am The firsttime I watched it, I found it
so confusing. However, I havesince reached out to a friend of mine
net If you're watching net, hi, thank you, who watched The World
Beyond and remembered it all and wasable to fill me in a bit more

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on the CRM of what their purposeis. So the next time I watched
it, because I watched it threetimes now, I was like, oh,
yeah, I'm getting it now.It's a very It's a difficult episode
because Rick and Mashone are odd,so much of it makes it hard to
watch. Nobody wants to see themfighting, and you know, so it's

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you know, it's this halfway pointin the season, and it's like,
when you get to the halfway point, this is where we realized Rick is
in a very different place than maShone and it's causing them to butt heads.
So hopefully you know, this isthe this is the depth, and
then we'll come good again at theend. What about you? What did

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you think? I? You know, it's funny, because for some reason,
it didn't the first time I watchedit. It didn't really grab me
very much, and I when Irewatch. When I watched it again,
I really enjoyed it a whole lotmore the second and third time around.

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And it's interesting because I'm I'm reallylike, I never thought I would say
this. I mean, Pollyanna Macintoshis a great actress, but I never
thought I like, I always hatedJadis. I mean, she's just an
annoying character. Yeah, but I'mI'm just I'm loving her right now.

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Yeah. Yeah, she's I meanshe's electric one screen. Yeah, yeah,
she's. She's just she's so she'sso interesting to me now, I
mean, she's she's a great actor. But I just don't think they I
mean, first of all, thegarbage people never should have existed in the

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first place. But i mean theyafter they got rid of everybody and they
killed her whole group, and theykept her around. She was she was
a little interesting as Anne somewhat,but still I just always found her really

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annoying and badly written character. Yeah, not annoying in the way she should
be annoying, but yeah, yeah, she was just always really poorly written.
And I just I'm really really enjoyingher right now. I'm I'm impressed.
I never thought I would. Inever thought i'd say that, But

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so it's great to see. It'sgreat to see Pollyanna Macintosh in a role
that you know that I'm actually enjoying. Like she's intimidating, she's scary,
and she's she's you know, she'sstill funny too at times. Yes,
and she's still flirting the trick.Yes, I love that. I love
she's still she she is not awoman to give up on. Yes.

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Yeah, our motives make sense aswell. You know, they clearly explained
it in this episode, because alot of times when you have this,
somebody obsessed with someone else and theyalways give some weird, oh you know,
vague reason that's why it's so importantto them. But here is super
super clear. It's all on her. She brought Ricken and if he leaves,

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it will be on her, andso she has to stop it and
she will do everything she can tostop it. She's all about herself.
So it makes total sense and itworks really well. Yeah, yeah,
for sure. So before we getinto it, here, in case you

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guys didn't realize it, we arelive, but you can, you know,
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live every Sunday. Don's not withme on Sunday nights because John's in Scotland,

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I will definitely. I was actuallya week last night, but I was
in no fit state to go tolive, so I should have joined you.
It was a short one anyway,but uh yeah, we're live every
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That really helps us out with thealgorithm, and leave a comment.
So so YouTube knows that that we'relive and well and people should be watching
us. Yes, but so thisuh so, this episode it's called Bye

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just I don't know, it's it'sso weird that I have some grapes about
the episode title I get what I'mtrying to do, but yeah, individually,
I know, I know it,just it individually it just sounds silly
without the context. It was directedby Michael Slovis and written by Gabe Giannis.

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We open up with again this likeI'm just laughing at at the super
vague timeline here. We opened upand this screen says years ago, years
ago, it could be two years, could be twenty years now. It
wasn't twenty years. But we heara voice introducing people to the city that

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the CRM is, you know,protecting, And we see a close up
of Rick's boots so he still gothis boots on at this point, and
his consignee jacket and he's entering thecity for the first time. He walks

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in and is checking it out.And we then see Jadis at the five
dollars fries stand palyptic times. Man, I mean, okay, that's cool
that they're still using money, butyeah, five dollar fries post in post
apocalyptic times looks yeah, yeah itis, And I agree with her.

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I I might spend five dollars ononion rings, but yeah, not the
fries. I would kill them onfor fries. So yeah, yeah,
that's that's that's my I know thisis one of the most controversial scenes in
the episode, because all I've seenonline is people saying JADUs throw away a

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whole portion of fries. No,I know, I couldn't believe. She
just like shut them in the truth. She's a doing rings most controversial scene
since they killed Buttons. That's whyshe's That's why she's a villain. That's

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why she's a villain. That makesher a villain. Okay, that's true,
that's villain. You're right there throwingaway good, perfectly good fries.
Yeah, exactly, and plus justlike putting all the ketchup right on top
of it. But that's another story. I'm I'm I'm a condiment hater.
But she, you know, she'sgot her She basically looks like like Anne.

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You know, she's got like herlong hair, and she she seems
very friendly and uh. She approachesRick and she kind of explains. She
quickly gets into explaining the deal withthe CRM that she made heard her people

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got supplies for in exchange for losssouls that needed saving, as well as
anybody who could be a threat thatthey would want to take out. She
tells Rick that she's been there fora month so that she could be there
for his orientation, and she reallywants him to talk to her because,

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you know, she's like, shedoesn't really like they're trying to figure him
out, and she doesn't know whatto tell them, and she's trying to
basically just trying to get him toopen up to her so they can have
a conversation because they don't operate withinthe city, so she said, it's

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a safe place to talk. Idon't understand that. Why don't they operate
in the city, She said theycan't. Yeah, I don't understand that.
Thought they were like controlling everything.Yeah, now I don't understand.
That remains a bit of a mystery, even though I understand them a bit

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more now, I didn't understand why, as as Jada says, you know,
they want her to bring in lostsouls, And I'm like, if
they're so protective of their city andthe secret and stuff, why are they
wanting more people. But apparently,as a wielding world beyond, the CRM
does experiments on healthy people to dowith finding a cure or you know,

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to do with walkers, so theywant cannon fodder. Basically, and and
you know, and as you say, but also to take out threats.
So that makes a bit of sense. I guess. Yeah, they're just
they're outside the city, and Iguess they couldn't do all their experiments and

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dodge things as we see in Britainshady behavior in the city because there's too
many people who could overrun them,I guess, overrule them. Yeah,
yeah, true, yeah. Sheuh. She basically just tells him that
she wants him. She wants himto say that he's looking for someone to

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follow. He asks her why she'snot working. Okay, by the way,
I just have to I want tointerject and interrupt myself here. I
was really distracted during this scene byColleanna Macintosh is great of an actor as
she is man. She was havinga hard time keeping her American accent during

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this scene. Yeah, I wasreally distracted by it, and I'm not
her wig. Yeah. Having seenpictures from filming this scene, it was
because it was a public filming location. There was a few photographs of this,

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and I thought it looked She lookedawful in the photograph, but on
screen it looked much more believable,so it wasn't as bad. As I
expected, but yeah, I agreewith you. And then she's not the
only one. I noticed. Laterin the episode there was a line which
I think was dubbed on later byLeslie an Brandt, where she just completely
lost her South Africa the accent,which I know she really has, but

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she just sounded super American in it. So and held on to his great
well done. But by the way, I don't know if it's Donna,
Donnie you probably know this. Idon't know. Maybe you don't even,
But just a bit of a funlittle trivia bit for you guys. Andrew

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Lincoln has always has has always beenpretty pretty good with like not slipping in
his accent. But there was onehilarious moment in season three. It was
the episode where they were going intothe prison and they were in the tombs
and herschel got bit and do youknow about this? No, I don't

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know. Oh my god, ifyou, if you you have to go
and watch this scene back. It'shilarious. So Rick is Rick is cutting
off his leg. Yeah, he'scutting off Herschel's leg and he yells,
put pressure on it pod and hegoes, but then he goes, but

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then he goes He immediately says itagain with a hard r. Put the
picture on it hard, hard,hard, get that, Carl, arguing
Carl, it was a hilarious Iwas like, he corrected himself. It
was so funny. I need togo and check that. Definitely. Yeah,

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but uh but yeah. So anyway, so Rick asks Jadis why she's
not working assignment, and he suddenlyrealizes it's it's because she gave him to
them, which confuses me. Imean, by them, it must mean

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Oka four, That's all I canfigure because must have just figured him out
right away. Yeah, it doesn'tmake sense. Why is he a prized
position if he's they can see he'san A and needs to be killed.
Three. Yeah, this whole iskilling the A thing just so seems to

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go back and forth either important orno, they're not. They're going to
be all killed. You know.There seems to be a bit of an
inconsistency with that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just I'm just assuming that they
means Oka four and Oka four justfigured him out right away and saw him
as valuable, so you know,he rewarded he rewarded her. But uh,

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she she reminds him that she couldhave let him die in the river
bed, which which is true?I mean he would have died. She
did save his life, but youknow, she took a chance on him
because she owed him which uh,you know, which which is true?
I mean he could have left herbehind, but he brought her in,

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He brought her into the group.She she tells him that she completely believes
in the CRM and she's planning onenlisting, and he just, you know,
he insists he's going home, andhe just walks off. Then we
see a sign that said then wesee the screen says hours ago. It's

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just it's so confusing. But Rickshows up at Thorne's apartment. She's in
tears, so she clearly heard abouteveryone that got killed. And he tells
her that there's a woman who savedhim and she's currently in designation intake,
meaning Micheawon. He tells her she'sa a but he wants to make sure

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that she stays, and he tellsher that she needs to be the one
to argue for her because he can'tbecause they'll think he's emotionally invested somehow.
He tells her he's doing it forfor okafor and he tells her she needs
to bring her along because they trusther. Then we see then this green

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says now and it flashes to Rickand jadis where we left off with them
in Rick's apartment, and he tellsher that he will kill her, just
not today. She then tells himthat if they leave, they'll never stop
looking for them, and she wouldhave to get there first to beat all

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of them to the punch and killeverybody back home so that their arrangement wasn't
discovered, and she knows she knowswhere Alexandria is obviously, so she knows
how to get there. She alsotells him that in the event of her
death, she has placed a filecontaining everything that she knows about him and

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everybody back home. She promises thatshe'll kill everybody if they leave, and
she also says that they already suspectMason's name, but that they still let
her in because of Thorn, andyou know, she realizes that Rick got
Thorn to step up for her,and he says, you you didn't threaten

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me before, so so why areyou threatening me now? And she said
that basically he wasn't really a threatbefore. But the two of them together,
Rick and mashone, they can doanything, and that ends the cold
open and we see so we don'tsee Michone working consignment, and we're getting

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a narration from her, like youknow, she's writing in her journal.
She is talking to to show Too'sJudith's code name rights show Yeah, which
means short sword, which is shownmeans long sword, and she's talking to

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Shoto. She says that she foundthe Brave Man, but she's still trying
to figure out this community and thepeople that he's with, and she doesn't
understand how someone would be how theywere able to keep somebody like the Brave
Man for so long. She saysthat he's been trying to come home all

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of this time, but they keptstopping him, but they can't stop us.
We then see Grime sixty eight paintedon a wall, so I'm guessing
that's where he lives. Maybe Ithink that's his kill kite, like he's
got the highest kill of walker throughthe wall. Oh okay, okay,

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I didn't understand what that was.Okay, gotcha. So Micheone slash Dana
Uh, who's the last name she'sgoing by is is a tune. Micheonan
and a woman named Cleo are workingtogether. And uh. Cleo refers to

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it as the doorsteps Paradise, andSeoan's like, is it paradise for everybody?
They hear bomb shopping and Cleo saysthat they're disruption charges that get dropped
if too many of the dead pileup in one place, and Cleo tells

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shown she's glad to be with somebodywho knows their ship, and Sean's like,
you don't know if I know myship. Stop not trying to blow
my cover man. And I loveCleo's line here, she says. She
tells Michew, you radiate shit knowing. That is my title to be.
But yes, yeah, she says, you radiate shit knowing. And just

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then a couple of live Walkers arespotted in the in the among the dead
ones that they're trying to get ridof, and the soldiers tell them to
clear out. They're about to handleit, but Mishone takes care of one
of them and staves Cleo, probablynot the move, you know, she
probably should be a little more lowkey. Yeah, a little, but

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there's There's then an announcement over thePA for Bethune in Clifton, so Micheone
and Cleo to check in for anincident report, and uh mishone walks right
past Rick who's there, and theyjust, you know, obviously pretend not
to know each other. We thensee a funeral for okafor and Major General

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Beale is is, you know,kind of talking about how Okah could have
seen his wife again if he hadstayed on his mission when you know,
back when he killed all those marines. But he recognized that their enemies can
be their salvation if we look atthem differently. He then pulls out a

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sword that he said he found atthe Battle of Fittler Square. It belonged
to General Hugh Mercer, who foughton different sides in different wars, but
he landed on the right side againstthe British. And he says you can
draw a straight line between his sacrificeand Oak of war sacrifice. I just
I thought this was interesting because,you know, I'm still trying to figure

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out Beale. He's just such amysterious guy. You know. Yeah,
he's obviously quite full of himself.He's like, this is my sword,
I mean, you know, comparinghimself to a general and from the Revolution.
I think, well, it's likethat line about the you know your

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enemies could become your salvation. Andobviously we see Rick there thinking about that
and thinking how can the CRM helphim or help other people, you know,
And it's interesting that it's building upBeale to possibly be the one to
be saying to Rick, you know, we can do good here, you

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know, trying to keep him onside. But or is he just going
to be full JADUs. It reallydoes feel like Jadis is the villain in
this season rather than Beale. Soit's interesting to see if that's going to
come by the end of it,if if Beal is going to be full
villain or if he is somebody morelike Oka for who can be persuaded that

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you know, there is a goodyou could do good, there's a good
purpose, you can change side anddo something to help people. So it's
like, is that hint of itthat Beale can change side, that he
can become like ol Caporn and seesomething good to come from the if they
do things differently, So we'll see. Yeah, he's so mysterious, isn't

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he. Yeah. Oh, bythe way, I just saw a comment
from Kaiwan. Hey Kaiwan, thanksfor popping in. He he said he
can't watch it right now, butI'm but I'm I'm glad to see you
in here, thanks for popping inand saying hi. But yeah, he's
just he's so he's just so mysterious, and you know, I keep comparing

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him to I keep comparing him toCommander Lawrence from from Handmaid's Tail. But
I am it's like you just youjust can't quite figure him out. But
I just I love Terry O'Quinn somuch. I just think he's so great.
He's perfect general material. He hasthat steely ness and the you know,

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the it's almost like he's you know, it's a coldness that you know,
he's mysterious. We don't we can'tsee anything behind the face, and
that is giving nothing away, whichis brilliant. It is it really is.
He He nails that like charming charismaticintimidation. Yeah, you know,

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he's he's intimidating without he's very intimidatingwithout being scary, like because he seems
kind of charming and charismatic but veryintimidating, Yeah, which is hard to
pull off. It is, Yeah, he is. But Greek casting,
yeah for sure. So we wesee Pearl and Rick walking out and she's

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telling him that she had climbed aboardthis this ghost cruise ship that was totally
empty of supplies. Do we thinkthat's the same cruise ship that we saw
that in the last episode. Yeah, I'm assuming so, yeah, terminal,
Yes, yeah, probably. Shesaid she was she was outside when

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a helicopter found her and Okafour gotout. He told her he figured out
quickly that she was an A andshe could come with him to save the
world or he would have to killher. She tried to kill him,
and he still didn't kill her.As they're talking about this, Speel comes

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along and he says that he tellsthem that he didn't think either of them
were worth the trouble, but Okahsaw potential in them, and Biel says
his perspective is still changing, andwhenever he looks at Rick, he keeps
thinking pharmicon, which is an ancientGreek word that means both poison and the

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cure. So that was that wasvery interesting. It's just like I love
this character. I love him.He's just so interesting. Yea, what
what if? I mean? Youwould have to be an idiot not to
see that Rick is an A.You know, he's just exudes it.

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Exudes it, and obviously he cantell that. I think Real is smart
enough to know that. But he'sreserving and judgment on Rick because he obviously
sayes, well, there may besomething we can use here, or is
Rick just going to be permanently tryingto escape and wanting to go back and
not want to be part of it? And you know that that's such a

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good idea, a good phrase,the poison and the cure that that Rick
could destroy. He's acknowledging that Rickcould destroy the CRM. He knows Rick
has that potential, but yet he'skeeping him around because he believes he has
the or the Ciram at least hasthe power to convince Rick to join them

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and be a part of it.But Rick's still hovering on the ages.
And then he gives them a book, doesn't he a martial arts book?
Yeah? Yeah, it's a martialarts the Book of Family Traditions by Yagyu
Mean and Nourri, which is whichhe had previously given to okafor and he's

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giving it to Rick now. Uh. But he asks Thorn to take a
ride with him because he wants tospeak to her privately. The next scene
is her showing her being meaning Thornshowing up at Rick's place and she tells
him she's now command Sergeant Thorn feelpromoted her and he gave her the complete

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echelon Brewfing. She tells him,yeah, she knows everything. She tells
Rick that she needs him to takeover logistics for one of the bases,
and she says that Bill asked himasked her about Consiny Bethune, which is

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a big deal because you know,out of seventeen thousand people, she's on
his radar somehow, and so shenow reflects on her. She's like,
you know, I'm moving up andI can't have her pulling down. And
he's like, don't worry, I'llmake sure she doesn't. And she looks
at him very seriously, and shesays, you didn't see what I saw.

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You didn't hear what I heard,So that's very curious. I'm I'm
really interested in what that means.Yeah, So she leaves, and then
we see Rick pull out some mapsand papers out of a couch cushion.

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He then hears some disruption charges goingoff in the background and he jots him
down in a notebook. The nextday, Michean is eating lunch and Rick
walks by her. I don't knowif it's the next day. Later that
day, I'm not sure, butmicheone's eating lunch outside and Rick walks by

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her and very subtly passes her note, and the note says that they're leaving
tonight and they need to move fastbecause disruption charges are going to keep bringing
out even more of the dead.Later that night, we then see Rick

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and Machone separately in the tunnels andRick is Ricky sees some writing in the
dirt that says tell them I'm sorry, I lied, and the voiceover to
Michone in this note says that heleft a key in a locker along with

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a map and some instructions. Hetells her to look for the red canoe
in the brush, and he tellsher he also left or something. So
we're so clearly we're seeing them inthe tunnels at different times here, Yeah,
And so Macheone gets there, shefinds the red canoe, and we

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just saw Rick in that spot,but he's not there now, and she
sees a dead body in the waterwith a consignee jacket. On This scene
confused me at first because Micheon becauseof the look on Michaud's face. Me

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too, yeah, yeah, Likeshe seemed to understand what was going on
just by looking at this dead body. Yeah, and and here when I
first saw it, I just thoughtit was you know, I just thought
it was like somebody who tried toescape. Yeah, me too, Yeah,
and there they got the significance.Yeah, yeah. And but she

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she seems to think that there's moreto it, and she then finds bag
and opens it to find a notefrom Rick saying that he's not coming and
the only way that she can everget back to Judith is if he stays
there, and if she loves him, she'll go so big, big bummer,

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yeah big, Sure it was welldone, you know, because we
saw them at different times. Youthought you're going to meet up at this
point and then you realize, hno, Rick was just saying it up
and he's long gone, and it'ssuch a difficult thing. And this is
like the rest of the episode isthe same theme, but this idea that

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Rick knows what's going on, heknows that if they both go, he
will die, well, they willboth die, chances are, and he
is much happier be come more comfortablewith the idea that Michean is out there
with Judith and they're safe. Hewould rather that than them all be together.

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But there's a very high chance ofthem dying and everybody else dying.
He's making a calculated choice here,but I don't think Micheon is fully aware
of the risk. Basically, he'snot made it clear how big this risk
is. And that's why I don'tthink she gets it so much. Yeah,

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yeah, for sure. And thenwhy don't you, why don't you
take us through the rest of theepisode? Yeah? Sure, So they
next morning, Rick finds Jadis totell her you don't have to worry.
Dana has gone. He covered itup. He set it up, so

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there's this body in the water thatthey'll he said, I've torn it up
so they you know, I can'tidentify it, but it'll be good enough.
But you have to make sure you'reon the investigation team. And Jadas
is not impressed. And anyway,she's going to this this other base.
She's going up in the world.She's been promoted, and she is still

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saying, I don't want it tocome back on me. If if shit
rains down, it's going to hitme. And they have this really face
to face nose to know his moment, and she's saying to Rick, just
kill me. You know they're they'rethere are two of them have this amazing
chemistry and this scene. I loveit, and I know people are like,

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oh, you don't want to mentionchemistry was wrecking a woman, but
it's not sexual chemistry, but it'sit's lively and and then electric and just
you can just feel how much youjust watched the puncher, you know for
sure. But instead he gives anabsolute blow to the soul where he says

(39:23):
you're, oh, yeah, you'rehere with a ship here cut yay.
I love that line so much.It's really like, it's definitely the line
of the season. Love it.Love that the saucy Rick is back.
Yeah, I saw it. Isaw a comment from from Sarah from Sarah

(39:47):
rowan, oh yeah who she saidher her kids said, I hope the
barber said, is it one ofthe ones schools? Excuse me? Yeah?
I don't know what it is withthat here I would say here do,

(40:09):
but it's not as a here don't. And I love that Jendis is
still trying to flirt with Rick.She's like, is there not something else
keeping you here like, I'll giveit up women. Yeah, it's a

(40:29):
really good scene. It's you know, not very long, but miche macheone,
it is still there. And thatis comes to light immediately after that
when Rick goes to where they're allstill out of the wall doing killers and
there's macheone and she's now not doinga good job of pretending she's not an

(40:51):
a. She is going full tillkill walker walk walker and everybody's looking at
her and Thorne's like, oh man, you're you're in trouble now, because
yeah, she is is not hiding, she's putting herself out there and she
is well, she's pissed. Shejust pissed the Rick for what she did
to him. And Rick gets beshown alone after this and they have it

(41:16):
out. This is the you know, the scene that I think probably as
well as the end, but thisis the scene that people find hard to
watch, you know, because they'rethey really need marriage counsely being open in
your communication. Rick grinds he needsto tell her why what you know everything?

(41:40):
And she hasn't told him about rJ. So there's all these they're
keeping so much back from each otherand it's leading to this argument. He's
saying, you know, I'm onlyhere because Oka for saved my life,
and he kept saving my life.If you want to get out of here,
you you need someone here in theCRM that's going to cover up for

(42:04):
you and make sure you get away. That's me. I'm the only one
that can do that for you.But Michean is not impressed, takes his
helmet off and I love that,say you and I wrote down. Michean
looks at him like he's an idiot, because he is. I mean,
they're both being like he is nottelling her, Look, I'm doing this

(42:28):
because everyone will die, and Iwould rather. You know, we know
Judith and is safe and everybody elseis safe, and we the two of
them could be together, or Micheancan leave. I mean, Jadis had
said that, you know, she'dsaid to Rick, why don't the two
of you just live here together andyou can be happy? Which is a
valid, a valid point, youknow. But Michean will not give it

(42:52):
up. And Seon is furious thathe is putting this idea that they could
be separated, that she could go, And so the next scene we see
we again hear her with her hervoice over to Judith. She's saying,

(43:15):
you know, I'm worried that hehas been affected by the CRM, that
in this time we've been apart,he's replaced us, or he's just been
drawn into their ambition and their power. And we see that Machaune is on
her orientation date in the city andshe's walking around, but she says,

(43:35):
you know, then I saw somethingthat changed my mind. And she sees
the stand of the guy who doesthe drawings, and I still don't understand
why he's doing drawings on TV screensAnd anyway, it's very cumbersome. Yeah,
lots carry around think that there areif there are you know, good

(44:01):
engineers and tech people around, youwould think that there's probably stuff inside those
TVs that maybe they could use.Yeah, yeah, exactly. And like,
you know, the printing press isa very very old invention. I'm
pretty sure they could have have printedexcuse me, printing presses to make stuff

(44:22):
if if you're doing drawings, andI just don't understand it. And it's
so such simple lines. I hadassumed when we first saw that phone that
Rick had done it himself, youknow, he just carved it into a
phone as best he could. Simplelines like it almost like a kid's drawing.
But no, anyway, this guyis an artist and as soon as

(44:45):
he sees Michew and he knows whoshe is because Rick had come to him
on such a regular basis every fewmonths. He wanted to draw you and
the girl and he says, andthere was a boy too, but I
could never get him right. Andmichell And says, oh that was Carl
and and you know he he hesays, oh, you're much more open

(45:06):
than Ricord. Took Rick a longtime to tell me names. And he
gives Misson the little bit of hopethat she needs because he says Rick would
come and he would say, thisis just until I see them again.
Rick always believed he was going tosee them again and he and he said
until he stopped saying that. Andobviously that was the point we saw in

(45:30):
the first episode where Rick was completelyhad lost all hope and he thought,
no, he was to end hislife. And this guy said to him,
just believe a little bit longer.And yeah, I know what you
said to him, because obviously that'swhat's on the on the phone that she
saw, you know. So Idon't want to get I don't want to

(45:51):
get into spoiler's territory here. Yeah, but the you know when he he
told her that, when he toldher that, you know, he he
described that he said that there wasa boy and he could never quite get
him right. It makes me thinkof something in the next episode. Yeah,

(46:15):
yeah, and it's I I got. I got very emotional when Carl
came up in the scene. Yeah. I think I noticed last night on
the official Twitter account for The WalkingDead that the tweets where they, you
know, did this this gift orlittle clip where you said, you know,

(46:37):
when she says Carl's name got themost response, and it totally you
know, you totally understand why becauseCarl is is the the has been later
from the start, and we youknow, we kind of feel like we
lost Carl that we rickon ma shonon. Did. I think it was really
nice And think in the first episodeI didn't like there wasn't enough talk of

(47:00):
Judith. In this episode there isa lot more Judith, and I love
that that Carl is mentioned, andas you see in the next episode,
he's significant as well. So yeah, I definitely want people to remember to
remember what the guy said about Carlin this episode. Yeah, because I
gets I think it's significant him sayingthat, you know, he can never

(47:22):
quite get him right. And somethingthat we talked about last night was in
in the after show is we wewere both kind of curious, actually,
Trisia brought it up. We areboth kind of curious if this guy is
gonna come up again, if yeah, we're going to see him again in

(47:47):
in a not so positive light,like if if he's going to be approached
by somebody mhm, who you knowwants more information. Yeah, yeah,
because I thought that when I waswatching the scene that hang on he now
knows this is Micheau and this isRick's wife. Yeah, very useful information.

(48:15):
So if someone else is to findthat out, then that could be
very dangerous. Yeah. So yeah, it's definitely for sure. If they
have spies or you know, peoplethat just keep a watch out in the
city for the CRM and for forthings that might seem a little bit suspicious,

(48:36):
then this could be this guy couldbe Oh he doesn't die, lots
too many good people I know,you know, but he could be in
a position to have some information thatcould change things. For which is like,
sure, come, people be abit more careful with your if you're

(48:57):
undercover. Let's just say Macheone isnot good at going undercover, you know,
now, she's not she's not thethe the expert that she's just like,
no, I'm done with this.I'm not going to pretend I'm incapable
when I I'm really good. Andalso, yeah, I'll tell people I'm
Michualing. Sure. Yeah she reallyshe really blew her cover there, oh

(49:24):
man. Yeah, yeah, itwas just It's funny because I wasn't even
thinking about that at the time,and I'm like, your your your name
is Dana, Dana, Dana.But I'm still bothered by the fact that
she said she was from Georgia,because yeah, just because of bricks accent,

(49:46):
she should have said that she wasfrom somewhere other than the South.
Yeah, because you know, she'snot quite so strong and not saying and
yeah, did you notice that whenshe walked into the city, they had

(50:07):
the same shot of her looking atthe Yeah. I was thinking about what
I've written down. What is thesignificance of them other than the fact there's
three in the of course, theCRM as the three cities and the three
circles at Lobo. I was like, because Rick was we saw a lot
of Rick looking at them in thefirst episode, you know, when he

(50:29):
was he was contemplating suicide, Sowhat what is the significance of that?
And when he and he looked atthem when he walked into the city in
this episode and we got the exactsame shot of the shown. So yeah,
it's interesting because I mean, isit to do with the fact that

(50:50):
you know, I don't know Rickwas shown in Judith, you know,
the family, or is it todo with the CRM and they, you
know, the circle of turning,the the their mascinations going on. I
just I don't know what the significanceis. Normally I'm pride to myself,
I'm being quite good and understanding theyou know, for the Jasper Stone,

(51:14):
let's talk about that these things thatseems significant. But I don't I don't
quite. Maybe I'll become clear asthe episodes go on, as we see
more episodes. What the significance ofthose turbines is. All I'm thinking,
honestly, is that they're just they'relooking at them, just realizing how much

(51:39):
how much potential there is there,how much power there is. Yeah,
and you know this is this isthe ultimate and civilization reborn. Yeah,
essentially, and you know it's there'sit. I'm sure that they they're both

(52:04):
thinking, like, you know,this, this is the the ultimate,
this is the ideal, but youknow, unfortunately it's it's not ideal for
people like that, there's always anegative. And that's the next scene is
is Thorn, Rick and Thorn calledDana over and and Thorn asks Micheau,

(52:28):
you know, did you enjoy yourtrip to the city, And she's like,
well, I saw some nice artworkwork, which is clever. But
Thorn' is like, oh, youdon't seem impressed. Is that not the
wife for you? Come with us? So they take well, Thorn takes
Micheawn to the same spot that toRick and Thorn to talk about their secret

(52:52):
mission in the in the c Nand what his plans for them. I
get so nervous during this. Yeah. Yeah, it was a highly tense
scene, and especially because Thorn startsit by saying, you know, Rick,
friendship is such a term that doesn'twork in this world. Rick is

(53:12):
my family, you know, Andshe's like being possessive and this isn't like
a romantic Oh he's mine. Getaway you know, it's not like that.
It's this sense of I will protecthim. You're putting us in danger,
so we're you know, you aretherefore on an opposite side to us.

(53:36):
She questions, Michaun, you know, so who are you? And
she tries to play it off.I'm just a survivor, that's all.
And she's saying, you know,why did you say Rick when you know
these are soldiers and the helicopters.You know, she knows, Thorn knows

(53:58):
what they seem does now she's she'shad the eeschelong briefing. She knows everything,
so she's even more suspicious. Whyon earth would you a person out
there in the wild save Rick?And and she keeps saying, well,
you seemed helpless, Rick, Rickhelpless, And Michure's like, well he
seemed it, you know. AndI just want people to live. I

(54:21):
want I don't want anyone to die, and I and he seemed helpless.
And Thorn clearly isn't buying it.And this whole time she's she reaches behind
her and she's about to take outher weapon, and conveniently Rick comes behind
her and he pulls his gun andputs on Thorn. So that if she

(54:42):
takes one step towards Micheau and he'sgoing to he's going to take Thorn out.
But it's okay because Thorn says,he you know, I could,
I could show you something. ButI can see that you're a leader,
and and if you are just leftto go into the city and where you

(55:04):
won't just settle down and live,You will look for answers, You will
want to know stuff. Well,I can give you all that, And
what would you say to that,and thanctfully Michelle says, well I would
say yes. So it's all good. And now Micheon is brought into the
little the Oka for special group andshe says, Thorn says, you know,

(55:29):
you can join us at the Cascadiabase, and Micheane leaves and Thorn
confronts wrecord. She's like, oh, you do your firearm. He's like,
well, you do your I wasbacking you up. Yes, yeah,
I say, yeah, yeah,I was really sure just in case,
you know, they explained that though, because I, like I was

(55:53):
so nervous that like, I wasso nervous when this was going on,
because I was like, if isshe gonna think he's backing her up when
like if she sees him pulling hispulling his gun out like like this is
this is like I was waiting forthis to go really wrong. Yeah,

(56:15):
and it's again Rick is not verygood at keeping his cover either, you
know, like oh yeah, no, no, it's fine, honest honestly
you yeah, they're they're just theyyou know, they keep bringing up this
idea of the two of you togetheryou can do anything, but they're also
putting each other in danger constantly becausethey can't hide their selves and their true

(56:37):
selves and hide their connection. They'restruggling to you anyway. So the Thorne
says something then which is really reallysignificant. She says, I see all
now and I'm not ok for andthat is some bad news that she's starting

(57:00):
to get into the CRM mindset andnot into okaforce idea of you know,
totally changing the CRM from the inside. She is becoming a bit of a
company man, company woman. Sheis beginning to go on to that side,

(57:21):
you know, like Bale was talkingabout the changing sides and maybe that
she unfortunately is going to be gofrom an ally to someone who is very
dangerous for Rick and Rachawon. So, which is a nice some nice traveling
lovely shots of America. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, very nice. Yeah

(57:44):
it was really there. Yeah no, it was beautiful. No, It's
what I was going to say,is I And I think that's fitting for
Thorn. Like I think that's kindof what we've been seeing of her,
which is why it confuses me somuch much that she was labeled as an
A. Yeah, you know,I I don't I think that she's she's

(58:07):
definitely very strong, and she's definitelya bad ass. Yeah, but she's
also somebody who, like I,I don't think she seems a material at
all. I mean, a materialisn't just about being being a strong badass.
It's about like you know, beingwilling to defect. Yeah, and

(58:31):
and and she's she's We've never seenthat from her. So, like,
I'm really confused about why she waslabeled an A because she just she just
seems like very much a bee whocould be a huge asset to them.
Yeah. Yeah, And I thinkfrom the start the talk of the A

(58:52):
and b's that has been my thoughtas well, is that yeah, you
don't want trades, but you alsoneed people like that in and our me
to lead. You need to haveleaders because you have section leaders, you
have command leaders, you know,and so they need people who have that
potential, but who will go alongwith everything, and that is what she

(59:14):
is. She was in the militarybefore, which suggests she is willing to
just do what she is told andunderstand that without seeing the bigger picture.
She's doing something for the greater good, you know, which is what you
do if you if you're in themilitary, you have to accept that your
leaders know what they're doing. Becauseof the secrecy, You're never going to

(59:37):
be clear on why you're doing certainthings. You just have to do them
because you're told. That's what you'retaught is to behave, not behave that's
not the word, and act withoutquestions. Just do what you're told.
So it is interesting, you're You'reright, she is more of a bee

(59:58):
because she is someone who will dothat, who will just say, look,
we need to do what we needto get done. I'm not going
to ask questions where and where.She's recognizing that Micheaon is someone who would
ask questions constantly, why are wedoing this, what's the bigger picture of
what's the purpose of this? So, yeah, she is is not an
a is not necessarily just someone whois strong and powerful. It's it's someone

(01:00:23):
who will is a threat. AndI don't think she's a threat. She
has a threat to Rick and Rashaan, but I don't think she's a threat
to the CRM. So yes,so they're they're in the helicopter and they're
going to the west coast to makesure nicely, which I really appreciated.

(01:00:45):
Thank you for doing this saying weneed to stop for fuel five times.
I was like, thank you.Let's acknowledge that it's yeah, helicopters can't
travel that far. Yeah, sheisn't. Yeah, let's let's have some
realism in the talk of even thoughyou know, fuel would be useless after

(01:01:07):
twelve years or whatever, it's spotto be. So they basically Thorne is
giving it an overview of what thisarea is. It used to be a
university. It's now a major basefor the CRM, and they have to
go and clear it. And wesee her giving a briefing to the small
group because she says, she says, to be shown. You know,

(01:01:29):
you're really lucky to know about this. Very few people do this. There's
I still don't know the word sheuses for the dead. It does sound
like doults to mediums. I needto have the subtitles on so I can
see what word they use. Butshe says, we've got a problem because
they're in this valley and the destructioncharges are just bouncing off the walls,

(01:01:51):
and you know it's not working.So we need to go in there,
and I'm going to lead. She'ssomeone who's going to go and do that.
She's going to have the run withthe ball, which it turns out
is this. It's like some weirddoctor who contraption. It really made me
think of doctor who. It justtotally looks like a doctor who think does

(01:02:15):
it. It's this like armored contraptionthat they push through to clear walkers.
But then it's got a self destructthing on it. It's got a noise,
it makes a noise so it attractswalker and then it blows up.
And she's going to lead with it. And she gives them all their positions

(01:02:36):
and she says, to be shown. You fall to the back. You're
just there to pick up any nonkills. And of course, once again
with Sean, can't just do whatshe's told and keep undercover. She has
to just be the amazing the showand she is. So when they're in
the midst of this trying to killthese like two hundred walkers and Thorn,

(01:03:00):
the machine gets stuck and Thorn struggleswith it and she just runs off and
no, just starts killing them byhand. So we're showing's like I could
do that, and then she does. She starts pushing it through the walkers,
and of course Thorn is furious,you've broken your position, and but
Rick joins. Shown inside by sidethey're pushing this thing and they get into

(01:03:22):
the position, they set it offand they go and run behind a tree
to be shielded from the explosion,and of course, like they're not angry
with each other anymore, they havea bit of a kissing, a bit
of a smooch, like, youknow, not the not the greatest idea
when Thorn's right there, you know, like, what are you guys doing

(01:03:45):
again? No spoilers. That comesback again in episode four. This pair
do not know the time that thereis a time and a place for kissing.
Let's just say that, and there'sa time replace not to be kissing.
So yeah, yeah, they're totallyit's you know, it's it is

(01:04:09):
proof of this. The fact that, and it makes sense. They've been
apart for all these years, andthey they thought, well Micheon thought he
was dead and you know, tobe reunited. And they're just like,
I can't you know, they can'tkeep their hands off each other. She
wants to leave. Micheauan is like, come on, let's go now,
we've got a chance. This disruptionabout. Rick's like no, no,

(01:04:30):
not like this. He knows that, you know, they need a lot
more preparation. They can't just takeoff running. It's not going to be
good enough. Yeah, but asthey are killing, they go, so
they go back into the free andare killing the rest of the Walkers that
I haven't been taken out and thought, I was like, this is a
extreme. Thorn raises her gun toMicheon and is about to shoot her,

(01:04:56):
and but Rick puts himself in thefiring line and and so she doesn't.
And I was a bit I'm abit confused by that. I mean,
I understand that she's you know,broken her possession, and she's clearly a
bit of a live wire. Andthen a but could she just because I
don't understand why Thorn saw her assuch a personal threat at that moment that

(01:05:20):
she was just going to kill her. A bit extreme to me, but
she's not out of for ye,that's true. Yeah, yeah, she's
like I think Thorn is now thatnow that Thorn's moved up, I think
she's picked aside and I think she'sI think she's very dangerous at this point.

(01:05:41):
Yeah, yeah, I agree withthat. Absolutely be interesting to see
if her Jada's team up. Whata what a threat that could be because
Jedas has all this knowledge, ButI don't think Jadas is as as you
know, Jadas isn't a fighter.Jedas is a manipulator. But Thorn is
a is a leader and a fighter. So I think the two of them

(01:06:03):
together could make it. Let's writesome fan fiction. Yeah, just in't
Thorn. So Thorn is you know, she doesn't shoot Micheau, but she's
furious, and she says to Rickshe has to go take her back to
the base. And Rick plays off, Oh, she was running and I

(01:06:25):
was just you know, she neededhelp and we need to keep her.
But Thorn isn't buying it, andand and he says, you know,
maybe she is just too early forher. We'll just we'll take her back
and we'll go back, and she'slike, no, no, no,
we need to take care of this. You take her back. Bill wants
to be few. You're going tobe going on up as well. So

(01:06:47):
Rick is getting what he wants interms of getting into the higher echelons of
the the CRM so he can havegreater access, so he can do good.
It's there, it's within touching distancenow, and Macheon is putting it
at risk. And again Rick justtell her, tell her that's what you're

(01:07:10):
doing, you know, m Buthe doesn't. And so he's walking away
and there's there's Jada this and shesays, hey, this is my new
headquarters. Now I'm going to behere all the time. And he's,
you know, he's looking over atmy shore like oops, here's Jade and
she's no, the words, shedoesn't seen me, but then she does.

(01:07:32):
Sure it's like oh dear, whoops. And so that's it. You
know. Rick has to make achoice at that point, and he makes
the wrong one. Let's just belet's be clear. He should just say,
hey, got some stuff to tellyou, let me explain what's going
on here, but no, it'sRick. So he instead goes no,

(01:07:58):
shut down, says to Seon.It's over. Everything we had is broken.
We're done because and we understand he'strying to protect her, but it's
it's awful to see and and youknow he doesn't mean it. Of course
he doesn't mean it, but Micheonand Michean would know he doesn't mean that.
But she doesn't know what's going on. She doesn't know why he's trying

(01:08:23):
to protect her so much, andwhy he is so keen to stay in
the CRM. He just needs totell her. It's like in soaps,
you know, and soaps when it'slike, oh, I think my husband's
having an affair, but it turnsout he's just planning a surprise birthday party.
You know, this this idea,if you just talk to each other,

(01:08:45):
it would be much much simpler,but obviously there would be no drama.
Then Shone in a way as beingas irrational as rickets, I mean,
it's rational, but she's being asnot thinking things through as much as
he is, because she's the helook, I'm here, I don't.

(01:09:08):
She's butting her heads against her,trying to get through, trying to get
through and not realizing, Look,he's trying to protect not just you,
but Judith as well. He wantsJudas to have you in his life,
and she said, no, no, I'm staying here with you. I'm
staying here with you until we getyou know, we can escape together.
And Rick has taken a calculated choicethat it's better to have one parent than

(01:09:31):
to have none. But Micheon isan all or nothing kind of woman,
and she's like, no, no, that's we'll all be together or you
know, and that's the only optionfor her. And so when we next
see them in the helicopter, they'retaking her back to base and Mischeon we
see to hear the mashon void overto Juris and she says, I'm sorry,

(01:09:55):
I don't know if we'll be back, and Micheon takes off herron Sie
belt, grabs Rick and throws themboth out of the helicopter. She's made
that decision that, you know,Judith has a family, has Darryl and
Carol and everybody there, and Rickonly has her. And she's trying to
save Rick from whatever but whatever itis that's going on, she doesn't know

(01:10:21):
what it is, but she knowsthis isn't This isn't Rick, this isn't
his mindset, and she's willing totake that risk. I mean she's left
Judith for like a year or twoyears at this point anyway, so she's
made it this far. She's obviouslythinking, look, I'm just going to

(01:10:41):
take a chance and say, youknow, this is this is the only
way it can be is all ofus are none of us. And that's
totally Micheon all through, isn't it? All the way through? Her mentality
is always not or nothing. Yeah, well, you know, and it
makes sense though too, because Imean, if you think about it,

(01:11:04):
you know, she's she's there withhim. Yeah, she could go back
on her own, which you know, which Rick is you know, making
I mean, he makes sense whenhe tells her to do that. But
she also realizes that as strong asas she is and as capable as she

(01:11:25):
is, anything can happen on herway back home. So she might if
she takes off by herself, shemight she might not make it back home,
you know. So I so ina way, I kind of I
kind of agree with her with herrefusal to to leave, because it's just

(01:11:49):
it's whether the CRM is coming afterher or not, it's still dangerous and
you know, she's almost she likethey dropped they dropped bombs when in the
last episode on them, and youknow, basically killed killed a bunch of
their people. So she just narrowlyescaped them before. So I I so,

(01:12:14):
I kinda so, I kind ofget that. I think it makes
sense that she that she doesn't wantto leave him, and she figures that
either they're gonna either she's not goingto take that chance of leaving him and
then not making him back home.Yeah. So I think her her thing

(01:12:38):
is she's resigned to, like,you know that that last sentence, you
know, I don't know if we'regoing to make it back. I think
that last sentence kind of explains thatperfectly, like either we're coming back together
or we're not, or neither oneof us is coming back at all.
But Trisha brought up a great comment. She's like, you know, they

(01:13:00):
had just taken out the she shouldhave just taken out the pilot, perfectly
good helic after. Yeah exactly.I'm sure you can figure out how fire
rick notes now come on. Yeah, but but they would attract them back
home, yes, exactly. Yeah. I see the comments from m hi
am thank you for my pink hair. I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah,

(01:13:27):
doesn't actually watch the show. Sheshows up for moral support, which
which which I greatly appreciate, Thankyou very much. Yeah, and how
is Scotland. Scotland is the wordsof a Scottish word is Greek? Today
is great and reading and miserable.Ah, thanks for showing up for us,

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not not fun. Yes, that'sthe episode three, so we're yeah
more than well we are halfway throughthe season now, Yeah, yeah,
for sure. I mean do youthink that, I mean, they were
in a pretty bad storm. Imean do you think that, Like,

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do you think that she was fullytaking a chance there and was like,
yeah, we might die doing this. Yeah, I think so. I
think you know what you said.I think she was totally prepared to die
there, like, yeah, we'lldie together and we'll go out together.
But I am not leaving you.You know, I'm not taking the chance

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and I'm not and you know,it goes back to that conversation they had
in the last week in the whenthey were in between the trucks, when
she's saying, you know, wecan take them down, we can do
something in Rixite. No, no, no, no, no, you
don't understand, you know, andshe's she's not letting this go. She

(01:14:56):
literally goog you know, she's takingher with her. She will not let
him just say Okay, look they'retoo big, we can't do anything.
And she's like, no, wewill die or we will do something.
And so I think, you know, jumping out that helicopter, I have
no idea where they are. I'massuming they're She knew they were over water

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at least, but you know,she's prepared because if if the helicopter goes
down or you know whatever there theycould be in the middle of no place
with nothing other than you know,she doesn't have a pack or whatever.
So but she knows that the twoof them, you know, is the

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line is the two of them together, we can do anything. And she'd
rather take that chance. Yeah.I wouldn't be doing that, not my
personal choice. I'd just be like, yeah, okay, bye, I'm
going home. Yeah, but youknow, I understand what she's thinking.
She's saying, No, this isnot the way it's going to be the

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it's it's the two of us andand or we die. Yes, I
think it was a I think itwas a brilliant move, honestly, Yeah,
I really do. I mean,it was just the ultimate power move.
She was like, this is over. I'm putting an end to it.
Yeah, like we're we're we're eitherwe're either dying or we're getting out,

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and I don't care which one happens. Hopefully will survive, but I'm
I'm but I'm willing to I'm willingto risk both of our lives. I
think it was a brilliant move.And the thing. The thing is because
as they said to us, youknow, this is a long journey from
Philly to the west coast. Therecould be a huge expanse of area where

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they could get lost, and itis their only chance. They are not
close to the base, to theCram base. They could be out there
in the middle of nowhere and there'sno crum for hundreds of miles, so
it could be the best chance forthem to get away. So she is
right in that sense, you know, the it's their best opportunity to be

(01:17:15):
as far from the crum as possible. Yeah, you know it, it
kind of it was. It kindof reminded. It kind of made me
think of the move of you know, pushing them both out of helicopter.
Kind of remind me, mirind thatI can't speak today kind of was reminiscent
for me of of Carol leaving thethe herd off the cliff, you know.

(01:17:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it'slike except except that Carol was a
little more unconcerned about her life.Yes, like she I don't think Carol
was hoping that she was going tosurvive at that moment. Yeah, whereas

(01:17:59):
you know, I, you know, Micheone clearly wanted them both to survive.
But yeah, but she was willingto and it was just her putting
an end to it. Yeah,but uh yeah, I I kind of
hated that when I was watching it. It's so funny though, because we
got the first four episodes together,and when I first watched this and it

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ended, even though I could immediatelygo to the next episode, I hated
it. Yeah, I still hatedit because I still felt like I was
on a cliffhanger, even though Icould immediately go to the next episode.
It halfway through the season. Weknow they're not both gonna die at this
point. Let's three more episodes,but they're not in it. You know,

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there's you know, sensibly, irrationally, you know, Okay, this
is the middle point this season,this is the down point. Things will
get better, will improve, andyou know, but it's still has that
emotional wrench when you're left with thatcliffhanger. And Rick's been so angry to

(01:19:06):
Ma shown and you know, uncommunicativeand just and she's so lost and knowing
what's going on with them, youkind of feel like that's how you feel.
You know, You're like, it'sthe frustration. Come on, just
you'll be together, do do thingsthe way you know you can do things

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together. You can do anything together, So work together instead of like you
know, as I say, they'reboth at fault, and I'm not saying
it's at fault, but you knowwhat I mean, they're both contributing here,
and that Rick is not talking toshowing about all his reasoning and Mi
Shone is being stubborn and didn't helphim by staying undercover, staying a bee.

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You know, she made things moredifficult, and he's making things more
difficult because of who they are,because of the people they are. They
just can't stop being themselves no matterwhat, and even though it's causing them
problems. And so that's what ledthem to this climax of going you know,

(01:20:14):
when Michaud's like, come on,the two of us together, let's
sort this out away from the crembut it is they will sort it out
eventually, but it is a tenseending. Yeah, yeah for sure.
So I'm her has A has aninteresting question here, don do you have

(01:20:38):
any ideas for Walking Dead spin offs? Oh? Now, do you know?
I do? And I'm all youknow, I'm going to say it
publicly and copyright it. I've alwayswanted to see something that they touched on
in the very first season, andthat was the vast vasas the old people.

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And that sounds counterintuitive, like,oh, what you want to see
old people's home? No, Iwant to see older people. I love
the older characters like Herschel and Dale, and I would love to see a
spin off that centers on them andthey're because they are, you know,
more infirm, but they have thesmarts, they have the survival. You

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know, older people who have beenthrough things, you know, been through
either you know, maybe the war, one of the wars in the US,
you know, being to Vietnam orsomething where they are and they work
together and they're you know, Ijust love this idea that all these zombie

(01:21:47):
shows tend to focus on the young, fit men and I understand why.
But let's let's have something that's that'sreally different. Let's focus on a completely
different kind of people. And Iwould love to see, you know,
more people just living, you know, not in the city like in the

(01:22:09):
c because it's they're just living theirlives, but living as if they were
Alexandria or or someplace like that smallcommunity where they're just living and come across
everyday problems of how they survive andhow they rebuild. And no big bods.
I don't want to I don't needa big bod. The big god

(01:22:30):
is the apocalypse, you know.So hire me and I'll make an interesting
tool for you. And you knowwhat what makes me so mad? And
and you know, and this issomething on my mind. That's on my
mind because it's it's a topic thatI've been trying to get my you know,
my disability and Mental Health show started, but I kind of put a

(01:22:54):
pause on it for for personal reasons. But I have decided I'm going to
get it started soon. And oneof the things that I plan on talking
about on there is disability versus disabilityidentity. And when I brought this up

(01:23:15):
to my husband, he was like, what, what do you mean by
that. I'm like, well,I told my husband, I'm like,
you are technically disabled because you wearglasses, but you don't, like,
you don't identify as disabled. Youhave no reason to because you are,

(01:23:36):
you have accommodations, you you areable to live your life normally. But
the apocalypse happens tomorrow and our houseburns down and you can't get to your
glasses and you've got your contacts in. Yeah, you're fucked. Yeah,
yeah exactly, And I like,I it really bothers me that we've never

(01:23:56):
seen that be an issue on theWalk. I'm dead, like, okay,
So, for example, Milton inseason three, it makes sense that
Milton didn't have any issues because Woodburywas very protected since the beginning. He
didn't really go out very much.But then you see somebody like like Heath,

(01:24:20):
who was somebody who went on supplyruns and stuff, and he should
not have been leaving Alexandria. No, no, because if he lost his
glasses. Yeah, I mean that'sa permanent disability, and that's a permanent
severe disability in the zombie Apocalypsey exactly, So, I mean the Heath should

(01:24:45):
have always been behind the walls.Yeah, you know it. It annoys
me that we've never seen that bean issue on the show. It would
be a huge issue, like peoplewho who rely on on glasses who have
vision issues. Yeah, you know, it would be a huge It would

(01:25:10):
be a huge problem. Yes,I mean, obviously we had in The
Walking Dead, the main show,we had Kelly and Connie who both had
hearing loss and that you know,they, especially with Kelly, they did
show how that would affect them becauseyou know so much you're lying on the
sound of the Walkers, the growling, the stepping to keep you safe.

(01:25:31):
And you know, these things whichin our world are easily accommodated, easily
got over and even you know whenthey briefly touched on I think it was
in season six or possibly season seven, is it. Tina was her name,
that dwightist a lot. Yeah,and she had diabetes and that you

(01:25:53):
know how how many people would diefrom these very simple things that we overcome
badely. We have medication. Youknow, if you can't get your medication,
how are you going to live atall? Some people it would kill
them in something, but other thingsthat just make life very very difficult for

(01:26:14):
you, you know, and allthe mental health all the people who are
on meds for mental health and adhdayand things, so there would be much
more extremes of behavior because people don'thave the same regulation, the same medication.
Yeah, I love all that stuff. I find all that every day

(01:26:36):
stuff really interesting as much as Ido. You know, action and cool
killed and big people, the leadersgoing to megalomaniacs as the Order was looking
for. But I find that dayto day stuff fascinating. And you know,
one of my favorite things, eventhough season nine was the writer off

(01:26:57):
for me, it's when they goto the museum and stealed, as you
know, the all the farming equipmentand things from the museum. I love
that stuff, like, yeah,they've got to go back to that time,
to almost medieval times, to theirthe how they discovered farming and how
farming was became expanded and and youknow, I would love to see lots

(01:27:23):
more se me of that stuff withthe excuse me, with the interpersonal interactions,
but in terms of you know,we know that it's all over the
world. We know that now we'veseen you know, we've seen France.
I would love to see some reallydifferent countries like like Japan. You know,

(01:27:45):
or someplace in North Africa, evenyou know, Morocco or something like
that, like that. How arethese countries which have a completely different you
know, Japan is the most hightech country in the world quite probably,
how are they dealing with it?Do they have this very high tech way
of living living with it? Andthen countries which are much more based on

(01:28:11):
the ground. You know, theylive from farming and they live hunting.
They're much in the essence better quipto deal with this post apocalyptic world.
So are they feeling like it's justanother problem? You know? I'd love
to Yeah, yeah, or likeor Switzerland. Switzerland would be really fascinating
because of all of the underground bunkers, you know, like Switzerland is basically

(01:28:39):
like Switzerland basically has enough underground bunkersto to inhabit all of Switzerland everybody living
in Switzerland plus some. So itwould be that would be really interesting.
I would love to. I wouldlove to see something in Switzerland making use

(01:29:01):
of, like beginning use of theirbunkers. We'll see Carol and Daryl go
through all of Europe. You know, Yes, you can find that they
can go up to to sorts ofland and go to Norway, and yeah,
I'd love to see the extremes tosee how these are completely different countries

(01:29:21):
who are our western eyes and haveall the same creature comforts and you know
the lines on electricity and things,but how they very different terrains, you
know, the very mountainous ranges.How do you have do you have walkers
on top of Mount Everest? Arethey are they just frozen halfway up?

(01:29:42):
And that kind of stuff fascinates me. I'd love to love to see more
of that. Yeah, very likesmall islands. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
if you're a small island, youknow, if if they're enough survivors,
you're going to if you if getset up pretty quickly, then they're
safe and they're on an island andthey you know, they can just thrive.

(01:30:06):
Yeah, let's all go to theCaribbean island. Seriously, it's the
best place to be because like Imean, you're you're protected by water.
Yeah, and you know, youcould figure out a way to probably like

(01:30:27):
you know, funnel all of allof the dead into the water somehow.
Yeah. Yeah, you've got fish. Yeah, You've got an endless supply
of food. So I mean itwould be yeah, it would be idea.
I would love to see something like, you know, in the Caribbean
islands. Yeah, that would bethat would be fascinating to me, or

(01:30:51):
you know, or Hawaii or youknow, somewhere somewhere like that would be
really really interesting. I can't rememberwhich northern Europe is. I think it's
Finland that has something like twenty fivethousand islands of its coast. Oh my
gosh, so yeah, humongous number. I saw on it a quiz show.

(01:31:13):
So can you imagine you could havepeople living on all these islands?
You could have a huge population onlots and lots of small islands. And
also, why aren't they e walkingthis? Why aren't they all living in
the trees? You know? Yeah, he house structures that connect to other
trees. You know, you've gotyou pull your stuff up, you take

(01:31:36):
it down, your funnel water fromthis guy's Oh yeah, that could be
amazing. I'm like, go on, let's have people who live. I
don't think we've seen that in TheWalking Dead. I don't think we've seen
you know, we've seen lots ofdifferent sort of structures in different groups.
I don't think we've ever seen atree based one. I don't think so,

(01:31:58):
and it's you know, I alwaysthought like back in we bought our
house in twenty fifteen, and beforethat, we were living in a really
cute, a really cute attic apartmentin Chicago. I mean it was a

(01:32:21):
large attic apartment. It was atwo bedroom, big bedrooms. It was
a very large attic apartment. Soit was kind of like a house that
was converted into into three units,like the basement unit and the main floor
unit and then the attic. Itwas a great apartment. I loved that
apartment. But it was such agreat I always joked that it was a

(01:32:45):
great zombie apocalypse apartment because if thatever happened, Because the way that we
got into our apartment, well,there were two entrances. There was a
door. There was there a dooron the main floor where that opened up
into our private staircase. That ourprivate internal staircase that walked up into our

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part. But you know, Ijoked that it. And then the other
entrance was our back door directly connectedto our apartment, which led out to
our back deck. And I jokedthat it was a great it was a
great zombie apocalypse apartment because we wouldjust like burn down the we would just
burn like you know, or justnot burned down because then every you know,

(01:33:34):
the whole deck would burn. Butwe just get rid of basically get
rid of the the outside stairs,feel off the weather entrance, and just
like have a rope ladder or somethingthat we would like throw over the side
to get up and down only protectedfrom zombies. It's amazing. Yeah,

(01:33:57):
yeah, so many different ways thatpeople could live that I don't think they've
explored it enough. That would bejust cool to see, whether you know,
whether or not there the central playtheme, more central characters just to
touch on would be would be interestingsee lots of different ways of people protecting

(01:34:17):
themselves. Yeah, for sure.You know one thing that it's I know,
Tales of the Walking Dead is over. They're not bringing it back,
and it's it's a shame because Imean, first of all, I never
watched a single episode of Tales becauseI'm not I'm not interested in it.

(01:34:44):
But I was really interested in theinitial concept because they were talking about,
you know, bringing back the charactersthat we know and doing like what if
scenarios and stuff like that and backstoriesand if Tales would have been what they
had been planning on. Yes,it would have been a great series.
And one thing that I really wouldhave liked is I would have loved to

(01:35:14):
see I would have loved to haveseen something with Aaron and Jesus. Oh
yeah, yeah, like as acouple, because we didn't get that in
the show. That was in thecomics. They were a couple in the
comics, and it was you know, kind of hinted at They kind of
hinted at it in the show,but that's it. Yeah, I would

(01:35:38):
love that. I would have lovedto have seen something with Aaron and this.
I also would love to see theI would have loved to have seen
them cover the Uh. I'd loveto have seen them adapt the the Woodbury

(01:35:58):
graphic novels. Yeah, yeah,that would have been great because the backstory
behind that is really interesting. Doyou know much about the backstory? I
don't know. No, I don'tknow what about it. I mean,
he basically took over his brother's identity. Oh yes, yeah, yeah,

(01:36:21):
like he was Brian, the governorwas Brian, and his brother's name was
Philip Blake. And Penny was Philip'sdaughter. Yeah, so she was the
governor's niece and his brother died,and after he died, you know,

(01:36:46):
he basically Penny basically became his adopteddaughter. Yeah, and he took out
his brother's name, and his brother, like Brian, the governor's real past
identity was nothing like the kind ofperson who would turn into the governor.

(01:37:09):
Yeah. That it was a bitsort of Milton like a bit. Yeah.
Yeah, but Philip was his brotherwas and when Philip died, he
basically became his brother. And soI would have it was really interesting and

(01:37:30):
I really would have I would haveliked to have seen that. Yeah,
I think. I think there's alwaysa chance, and I'm sure I saw
some talk about that about the ideaof them going back and starting again with
a much more literal translation of thegraphic novel, something that stays much more
true to them, possibly even ananimated ceries. You know, we've seen

(01:37:55):
that with Star Trek, and thatwould be so interesting to see the same
starting place. But this this muchmore traditional arcs of of what happens with
the characters. So we would haveRick and Andrea, and you know,
in in the comics, Connie andKelly are not sister of their girlfriend I

(01:38:17):
think, and Kelly is the guyKelly the guy. Yeah, there a
couple, so yeah, there wouldbe a lot, you know, so
much interesting to see how they woulddo it when we've seen this version of
events, because there are you know, people are some people just want a

(01:38:38):
literal translation of the of the graphicnovels. So one thing that was brilliant.
I'm sorry, I'm just going tosay that, you know, and
you never know, it might stillhave Yeah, one thing that I would
have loved to have seen. Soyou know, in the show, Nise

(01:39:00):
and Tara obviously were together, andI'm wondering if they put them together because
at that point they knew that CoreyHawkins wasn't going to be sticking around as
Heath because in the comics, Denisewas a much bigger character as was Heath.

(01:39:21):
I loved and I loved both Deniseand Heath and the comics they were
sub tray characters and they were acouple, and they had one of the
most heartbreaking moments in the entire comicseries. And do you know, do

(01:39:41):
you have you heard? Okay,so yeah, if anybody plans on reading
the comics and hasn't, just tonot right now, but basically, Heath
and Denise were a couple and bothamazing characters, and they were both bit

(01:40:03):
I think Denise, Denise's arm wasbit and Heath's leg was bit, and
she made the decision to Like,she could have had her arm cut off
to save her, but she madethe decision to take care of Heath,

(01:40:26):
to tend Heath, to cut offhis leg and let herself die because she
needed her arm to save him andif they cut off her arm, she
wouldn't be able to help him.Yeah, and so she made she made
that decision. It was just itwas so heartbreaking. It was such a
heartbreaking moment. Yes, and theywere such a great couple, like I

(01:40:51):
would have absolutely. I mean,it was great that, you know,
we got it. It was greatthat we got another another same sex relationship
on the show. But personally,I sorry for those of you who might
love her. I never cared forTara and I I just I I was

(01:41:12):
really looking forward to seeing to NathanHeath Denise and Heath, but because it
was just they were just so greattogether, so that that would be nice
to see too. I wouldn't mindseeing like some kind of Freeboot two with
younger with with younger actors playing thesecharacters and backstories. Yeah, Like I

(01:41:39):
would love to see Darryl and Merlebefore like for the Apocalypse. That would
be really interesting. And uh,Charlie Heaton would absolutely have to play.
Uh, I would have to playyeah you ye, yes, yeah,

(01:41:59):
they can't. It can't be anybody, but it could not be anybody but
Charlie Heaton. It has to beCharlie Heaton. But that would be really
cool to see, you know,to see them like just breaking the law
and you know, doing what theydo and and you know, up to
the point where they come across thegroup and plan to rob them you know,

(01:42:21):
yes, yes, yeah, likethat would be that would be really
interesting. I would I would liketo see that. And uh, because
you know it's it's because it's funny. Like there was a scene in Darald
Dixon where they were there was thatscene in Darald Dixon where they were at
the Demimond and they were they werebringing them stuff to in exchange for getting

(01:42:50):
to to a boat. Yeah,and my husband was watching it with me
and and Ryl is you know,Darryl's being really smart about the whole thing,
and and my husband's like, likethey a drug deal, like no
he does. Yeah, yeah,yeah he does. Yeah yeah, no

(01:43:14):
he no he this is this ishis pastoright here. Yeah yeah, so
yeah, that would you know,stuff like that would would just be really
interesting. I don't ever want tosee a backstory on Carrol ever ever.
We don't need to see that becauseit was nothing. There's nothing good there,

(01:43:39):
nothing good there. But uh butyeah it would uh. I there's
a lot that I would have likedto have seen, you know, having
Laurie still alive, with Michone andRick together, it would be really cool,
you know it just yeah, itwould be interesting. There's like I

(01:44:00):
would like to redo season six.Thanks, Yeah, I've read, I've
write it down how I would doit, because there was so much in
season six that made been really angry, and I would I would completely like
a redo on that, thank youvery much. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
I would like to throw out allof season seven and eight plays.

(01:44:20):
Yeah, well exactly that follows onyeah, six, seven and eight.
Yeah, yeah, from five rightinto in the season it ran into season
nine. Yeah, I agree,that's fine. Yeah, but we've got
three. I just saw an interviewyesterday, I think because with Scott Gimble

(01:44:44):
saying there are several other things potentiallybeing developed, but they don't, you
know, they haven't had the greenlight on anything. So there are so
many different things that might come outof this world because let's be honest,
AMC at the moment only has theinterview with the Vampire and Walking Dead as

(01:45:04):
their ips. That's the only twothey have really, So I think they
want to keep the Walking Dead universegoing and building on it. And if
this is you know, the OnesWho Live is just a limited season series
and this is the only season they'regoing to need to come up with something
new because they've only got these twoshows, Dead City and Darld Dixon,

(01:45:27):
which are six episodes long each twelvetwelve weeks of the year. They need
to get something else going. Sowho knows what next might appears as a
spin off for a world in theuniverse. Yeah, you know, m
Kara Kara made the comment last nightthat like about them overstaying they're welcome.

(01:45:56):
I'm like, no, you don'tunderstand that. That's the walking Chill Tea
is over welcome. Yeah, exactly, that's a finding feature. Yeah,
Now, I'm Karl Kelly. Kellyis actually a female character in the main
series, so they just they basicallygender swapped Kelly, and Kelly was a

(01:46:19):
great ricter. I love, Iabsolutely loved Kelly. I feel so bad
for so many of those characters inseason ten and eleven that just got such
short shrift because and I understand whathappened. They had planned that, you
know, the producer Scott Gimpoll andCole had planned the show was going to

(01:46:41):
go on without Rick of the showand without Daryl and Carol. Daryl Carroll
were going to leave, and theirspin off was going to run alongside the
main show, so all these characterswould have their chance to get their stories
sold. But MC felt that withoutCarol and Daryl and Rick and show it
didn't have the steam power. AndI understand this. So characters like Caley

(01:47:03):
and Lydia and Prince sss that youknow that we met in those last couple
of seasons just didn't have the fullfleshed out story that they deserved, and
it really sucked. You know,there's a law in season seven. I
love Eugene, I really do,but there was so much focus on him

(01:47:23):
and focus on all these other storieswhich were started and then didn't go any
place. Yeah, yeah, toomuch. Yeah, I'm kind of correct
me. I thought she was talkingabout she made the joke you don't want
a story about a woman named Kellys, That's how I read it, But

(01:47:44):
she actually met She was actually talkingabout Carol. No, Carol. Actually,
the reason we don't want a backstoryon Carol is because it's nothing good.
And Carol's our favorite character and shejust she had ish, shitty life,
yeah before the apocalypse, and weyeah, we don't want to see

(01:48:05):
that. But I know she hadthis potential to be amazing, but we
wouldn't be seeing it in the inher past, we wouldn't be seeing We
would just see someone who was victimizedand abused and powerless. And yeah,
the greatness of Carol is that we'vegot to see her journey from that to

(01:48:30):
the most powerful woman, never mindwomen, the most powerful person. Yeah,
we don't want to long period withher like that wouldn't one. Yeah,
yeah, no, we do notwant to see her getting beat up
by her husband. That's not fun. But uh but yeah, I you

(01:48:53):
know, there's there's a lot thatI wish that they had done. I
you know, I still think musicalepisode would have been funny, It would
be great we've we've seen that Melissalikes to have a bond in her house.
There's a little video from social mediaand we see Klie Peyton and yeah

(01:49:15):
just plays yeah yeah, and youknow they're all, you know, playing
playing in a bond in Melissa's house. This melissam right, please Carol,
So there there is a bond there. Let's just get on screen. Yeah,
yeah for sure. And and GregDekataro plays guitar. He could playing

(01:49:38):
he could be a zombie ye youknow, yeah, he could be a
zombie and play guitar. But guys, thank you so much for joining us
live today. Usually our recaps areyou know, they they they're usually posted

(01:49:59):
it nine am on Mondays. Buttoday we kind of we kind of had
a timing, a scheduling issue,so we just decided to go live today
and uh, but usually you'll findour recaps uh every Monday morning at nine.
We've got three more to go anduh and then Book of Carol is

(01:50:20):
going to be starting up not longafter that. When did they go back
for filming, Well, there's different. There was some talk that some of
the crew are going back in April, but I think they start properly in
June. Okay, gotcha. Andwe don't have a date and air date

(01:50:42):
yet for when Book of Carol isstarting, but they did say summer summer,
so yeah, so I'm hope earlier. I think it'll be August because
I think they're going to have they'regoing to want to use Sandy Ugo Comic
Con to launch the second season.Do some pool point may be all good

(01:51:05):
point, I know the base forrock, but that's my assumption with August.
Yeah, yeah, good point.Yeah, it's uh, I I
didn't think about that, So thatthat'll that'll be that'll be cool. I
uh maybe maybe I'll maybe I'll tryto get tickets to San Diego or go

(01:51:31):
like or try to Yeah, Idon't know, but uh yeah, thank
you for joining us. Every Sundaynight, we do a live after show
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third host or hosting a show ontop of that, then that's something we

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who can help us build up oursubreddit. So anyway, that's all of
our house cleaning stuff. But weappreciate you being here with us today and
thanks so much for stuff, andbye, and if we don't see you

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tonight or tomorrow, we will seeyou hopefully Sunday night or for our non
live re cap next Monday. Foran amazing episode. If you have watched
Anny, watch the next one.The next episode of The Ones Who Live
is amazing, so make sure youdon't miss it. Yes, Episode four

(01:55:25):
is fantastic, and like I said, I just I really want everybody to
just keep in mind that comment thatthe artist made about Carl for the next
episode and because it will, itwill make it that much more interesting.
All right, guys, that's itfor today and we will see you guys

(01:55:47):
soon. Bye bye,

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