September 9, 2025 • 38 mins
We're gonna chat about strange world of paypigging and FinDom. Firstly - big thanks to my pal Fergal Darcy for lending his voice to the paypig’s messages - I think you have a calling there hun!
I start by sharing the story of my own on/off seven-month communication with a paypig which was aided by both my fella and the girls. The PayPiggy himself was meant to be a guest on this pod before suddenly cutting it off and blocking me.
Then I’m joined by Niamh, who took to being a financial dominator like a duck to water. Between my weird little saga and her first-hand experience, we'll be covering a few bases here. Would you take some free money in exchange for calling someone a Pig?
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I start by sharing the story of my own on/off seven-month communication with a paypig which was aided by both my fella and the girls. The PayPiggy himself was meant to be a guest on this pod before suddenly cutting it off and blocking me.
Then I’m joined by Niamh, who took to being a financial dominator like a duck to water. Between my weird little saga and her first-hand experience, we'll be covering a few bases here. Would you take some free money in exchange for calling someone a Pig?
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-dating-orange-podcast--5898530/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So this week we are getting into the world of
pay pigging, which honestly is probably one of the weird,
weirdest experiences that I've had so far. So at the
start of the episode, I'm going to bring you through
some of the conversations I had with the pay pig
that I was talking to for about seven months, just
to set the scene, and you'll hear straight away that
I wasn't exactly comfortable with it. In half the time,
(00:33):
I didn't know if I was talking to a pervert
or if I was actually taking advantage of somebody who
was not mentally well. And I kicked off last October.
Me and my boyfriend were in Tenerief when I got
this message, and two of us were like, what the
fuck is this. Then we were like, you know, fuck it.
If he wants to send messages, I'm not going to
do anything. You know, I'm not going to send him
(00:54):
voice notes or abuse the shout out of him, because
that's kind of what they wanted to be, like put
into their place. And as it went on, I was like,
oh my god, this would be a really interesting podcast
episode because he was so keen and he was all
for it. And then out of nowhere, he ends it
and blocks me, so that's that that's gone anyway, And
(01:18):
I was thinking, right again, this has all gone on
a bit too long. Now I'll get him on the podcast,
you know. That will make for a very interesting listening,
and then the whole sorry thing will be put to bed.
But no, he got there first. So after that then
I will be joined by Nive, who got into financial
domination herself, and she took to it like a duck
(01:39):
to water, as she took to it about fucking better
than I did anyway, So between my strange little saga
and her first hand experience, you will get the full
picture of how mad this whole thing can be. At
the time, I was on the fence, so I put
a pole up on my Instagram store and I asked people,
(02:00):
if you were in a situation where a paypig is
approached to and wanted to give you money, what would
you do? And it was resounding yes, absolutely, I would
take it if somebody wanted to give me free money.
So I said, yeah, fuck it. If you know I
don't have to do anything except fucking say thanks pig,
(02:21):
and my boyfriend is involved, then sure that's grant but
anyway things went on, and anyway you can see for
yourself from the conversation here and for anybody who does
not know what a paypig is or finnam financial domination.
So in the realm of BDSM this is According to
(02:43):
Urban Dictionary, a paypig is a submissive, almost always male,
who has consented to financial servitude towards his mistress. Term
used in a derogatory slash humiliating light, usually by mistresses.
Another one is a paypig is typically a male who
pays a woman, not always a professional, to financially dominate him.
(03:05):
He has no worth aside from pleasing his finndom. The
paypig or money slave is often rationed by his findom
as to how much of his own money he can
have access to, in some cases handing over his bank
information and leases to property. So obviously you can see
from that they did not go that fucking far.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But anyway, enjoy, Can I send you money on PayPal?
Please paypig here?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Why not? My PayPal email is the Dayton Orange at
gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Thank you will send immediately and address you as Goddess
Send got it? Thanks very much, You're welcome. Could I
send more at some point.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You can, of course, no problem, excellent, I will do.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Could I ever send you money to send a voice note?
Send more goddess?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh cheers, and it's a probably not to the voice note.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm afraid that's no worries. Would you like me to
send you something every week? I don't want to be
two forward. I expect nothing in return.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That is totally up to you. It's cool with me
if it makes you happy.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, perfect, I'm happy to do. You like having that power.
Not sure if you commonly get men sending you money,
But you're hilarious and have a lovely voice. I'll send
more next week.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I got a few offers before all right. Oh cheers.
Glad you enjoyed the page.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You're very welcome. Enjoy your day. If you make a
wish list, I can buy some items for you too.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think that would involve you having my address, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh okay, Well maybe if you told me what the
items cost, I could just send the money because I
respect your privacy.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Ah yeah, okay, that could work. How long are you
at this pay pigging?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I've been doing it for three years now. I'd like
to give back some of what I earn to remain humble.
I also like to send money to one woman at
a time because I think a lot of women deserve
to be spoiled or treated well.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's an interesting concept.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I also love the power dynamic that I'd send money
whenever the person asked for it. I like that feeling
of submission.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I see, Well, surely you'd get sick of the same
woman after a while and move on to another one
to keep it interesting. How do you decide on your
new recipient or pay piglet?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, I'd like to keep sending you money anyways. I
do love your voice and humor and content. If I
stumble upon them and I find them attractive, I would ask.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Them interesting, well, thanks? Every day is a school day.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Paypig slash finndom is in common in Ireland mostly the UK.
How many men have sent you money before? And what
amounts would they have sent? What would you like me
to address you as?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't mind. I will leave it up to you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'll be happy with the approach of sending you the
money and saying it's done, as I understand you wouldn't
want to go any further than that. I would like
if you addressed me as bitch, but you don't have
to do that. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, don't worry.
You won't have that from me.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't think that I can call you bitch anyway.
I've got to run chat you again.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No worries. Enjoy your day, Goddess, Pig for now, then,
can I send more today please? Goddess? Yeah, no problem, okay,
right away, send Goddess. I will send more soon. You've
got me whiped now sent more?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh Jesus, you didn't have to send me anymore. Cheers though.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Okay, oh wait till next week? Then? Sorry? Could I
send you more tomorrow? Goddess?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, of course, send away, Pig.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I love when you call me pig. It instantly puts
me in my place, Pig. I love it. Send Goddess.
I'll send whenever you say.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Got it there? Thanks a million, Pig. I wonder would
you be interested in chatting about pay piged them on
a podcast episode.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You're very welcome. Yes, I'd love to. I'm going to
send more later, Goddess. I could wear a mask to
protect my identity. You do podcasts? I love the blind
Boy one I'll give yours a listen.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's audio only, so not to worry. I'm starting season
two shortly. I think this would be a very interesting topic.
I'll get back to you about it in the next
few weeks. I'm glad you're interested on your.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Perfect That sounds good. That would be amazing to talk about,
and I'd really appreciate the platform to speak about it
because I think in Ireland especially, we are very traditional
and we don't like anything different or you it's definitely
unheard of in this country. Still goes on a fair bit,
but not as much as the likes of the UK.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think people would like to hear about it too.
How would you know how much it goes on or
doesn't go on? Is there a forum where do you know?
People who do it?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well? On Twitter, the hashtag findom if you typed in
will show all of the accounts of people who are
into it, and I can gauge from that where it's popular.
I always love finding new trends and ways to break
out of my shell. Expression of submission is so exhilarating,
and it's nice to submit yourself when you're always in
(08:52):
control of your life. Some people also dress up like
a pig and walk around on a leash.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jenny, I suppose it is a spectrum. I'll get back
to you with a few questions that I plan to ask,
so you can prepare a bit and maybe just have
a think about things that you would like to bring
up as well.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, perfect, sounds good. Can I send you more later?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, please do pig?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yes, Goddess, send more? Am I a good slave? I
will send more later too. I love serving you. Can
I trot to the eight and m again?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes? Boss? On the way over there now?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Can't wait? Pig?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
How much should I send for Halloween? I will dress
up as a pig?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Does anyone know that you do this? Friends? Or anything?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They do? I love the feeling of humiliation. I love
the feeling of humiliation. If I was to dress up
as one, send.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Go for a pig and cheers?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Should I write pig and my four right? You're welcome,
Goddess going to send you more soon? How much would
you like gods writing pig on my forehead? I did it?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, And how was that received?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I felt really good, really humiliated, and was laughed So
it was great, crack. It was liberating I'll send what
I can now and send more on Thursday. You should
have seen it, no hussle.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thanks about You're.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Most welcome and we'll let you know as soon as
it's sent. Sent. Happy to write a pig on my
forward now after sending it? How long should I leave
it on for? I'll send more later on too. I
do love the idea of you being superior, Goddess being
from Dublin and I'm a pig. I will definitely impress
(10:50):
you with my next sent. I'll try to send the most.
If you have any other pigs.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sounds good, Piggy looking forward to us.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I will be saying it to you and kneeling. Goddess.
Do you prefer godss or Boss? And I can't wait either.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think we can move on to Boss now. That
suits me?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Okay, that's perfect. Send you a good amount.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
There, boss, h Jenny, thanks a million?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Can I send more? Boss?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Absolutely? Pig send away?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Will do? And should I write pig on my forehead afterwards?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You should do whatever makes you happy. And if that's
writing on your forehead then.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yes, yes, Boss, we'll do that immediately. I will eave
it on for two hours and walk around in.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Public fair play, making sure lots of people see you.
No messing with you pig.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, I will and I'll do whatever it takes to
you maniate myself. Happy to send more to everyone is
looking at me. It's so liberating. I'd send more soon.
I wish I could hear a voice note from you.
Just send fifty Could you please call me a filthy peasant.
I'm a pay pig.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Would you be free Monday evening to do thirty minutes
call for the podcast?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Thank you God this? Yes, I would be What would
the podcast entail?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You could stay anonymous completely obviously. I would just ask
you questions like why do you do it, how did
you get into it, how does it work, why do
you think you do it? Etc? And do your friends
know it's a half an hour zoom call camera off?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Okay perfect. I'd be up from that definitely. And also
I will send you more money soon. I would like
to send whatever. I can love being a peasant.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
What time tomorrow? Suits would seven thirty work?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I can't do it. I'm sorry. My head's not with
it lately and I was blocked.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And the if you have dabbled in a bit of
pay pigan, is that right, Yeah, my stories.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And where do I starts?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Do you want me? I think, like, I just think
it's mad how you even met the fella in the
first place. So like when you told me that you
were whatever, you were, the opposite of the pig you were.
It was what's the name for it, But you were
doing dominant. I think you were financial dominator. You were
(13:25):
the dominator in that situation. But yes, so tell us,
tell us how you met the fella.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Anyway, I met him on and knight OL. We got
chatting and he was pretty flirty with me and there
was nothing kind of gone back or forth, and then
he was slaty with me, but no, there was no
kissing or anything that night, but I thought it was
gone that way. But anyways, we exchanged numbers or whatever,
and then he was kind of blown hot and cold
(13:51):
hot and cold hot, and called was talking about going
on a date then, wouldn't you know. But then I
was like I don't understand. I was like I don't
get this, like you know, So then followed me on Instagram,
follow them back, same thing like me, pictures react into
certain things. Then radio silence, and I was just like,
what the fuck's going on? Like, I just didn't understand this.
(14:11):
So after a while I was kind of I said
it once or twice about going for a coffee, and
then it was kind of like yeah, yeah, but then nothing.
So I was kind of like, look, do you want
to go where a coffee or not? Do you know
what I mean? And then yeah, I was like it's
yes or no. Like so anyways, he was like, oh,
I'm just kind of doing my own thing. At the minute,
(14:33):
I was like, that's kill whatever. So then what happened
was I put something funny on my story and it
was like talking about it was like you know that
and video clip of Donald Trump, and it's like I
haven't done it, but I thought about it. I might
do it, like it's saying that and it was like
basically talking with seven feet pictures. So I was like
but he responded thening people pay for that, you know,
(14:55):
like I had it up as a joke and I
was like, oh, yeah, I know, like blah blah blah.
So then and he was like no, I'm serious, you know.
So we were having an escape back and forth and
I was like, yeah, like you know, I'm well aware,
blah blah blah. So then he was just like no, like,
I'd absolutely pay, and I was like, still, he's a
bit of a wind up. So I thought he was
(15:16):
joking at this point. Yeah, well yeah, yes, because he's
very funny. So I was like, no, he's clearly messing,
you know. So anyways, so then he anyway with the
conversation went on and he said no, I'd gladly pay,
and I said, well, I didn't see a pain from
MacDonald's breakfast this morning. Ahhh jokes. You know, next all
(15:39):
I get notification such and such, I sent you twenty
or one revelue. And at this point I was still
corrective because I was like, he's trying to be funny obviously,
you know, he thinks he's so funny or whatever. And
he was like, no, that's like what I'm into it.
And I was like, what do you mean. That's such
an inn't it. I was like, what are you talking about?
(16:00):
And he was like have you ever heard a findom?
But I just thought it was like an authopract, was
like your main fendom And he was like no, no,
now bindom. He was like, gurgle this, So I gurgled it, obviously,
and it was like talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Nial domination, But what was the other one you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Thought it was, which is just female domination as in
like someone who liked to dominate brix as in sexually,
you know what I mean? So like, well, I don't
I wouldn't like be too raised on it bout my
idea of like female domination. It's like they like being
dominated sexually. They like being the submissive, say the men like.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Being the submissive of the female, being dominated by a
female basically yeah, yeah, and then what finndom is financial domination.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Being dominated, being dam is financial domination. So it's just
domination through your finances, nothing sexual much. Was like, you know,
I was like, so you don't want like I was
kind of like, nah, there has to be a cat,
you know, because you hear you know, these messages you
get off lat like men and they're like, hi, honey,
(17:04):
would you like a sugar Like yeah? So I was
like and he was I was like, so like a
sugar daddy. I was getting him to explain, and he
was like, no, no, it's not it's not a sugar daddy.
Like a sugar daddy like like that they want things
in exchange, Like I don't want anything in exchange. I
was like nothing. He was like no. So I was like,
(17:25):
he was like, like would you be into it? And
I was like I would not be into it. I
was like you know what, why not? Like you know,
I was like, what's the what's the harm? So then
obviously I went looking down more into it. Then and
there's a there's a show and it's a boy that
girl Olivia what's her name? And what is it? That
(17:47):
three girl from I Want Them? Yeah, I think she's
off of violence. I've never watched it, so I'm brute
up bo and she's a blonde girl anyway, but she'd
on a shower on it apparently, and it's obviously based
in the UK, and she's talking to people who do
it like as a full time it's full time thing.
(18:09):
And he was like you should watch that show, like
and this girl was talking to a lot and she
was like she was talking to him. It was like
on zoom. But I don't know if he could say
her or if he couldn't say her, but she basically
drained him of like seven hundred pounds in this space
like ten minutes. Oh my gosh. So we were obviously
(18:30):
chatting back and forth, having a laugh and I was like,
so out, why do you want this to work? You know,
because I was like, it's new to me, so I
don't really know, you know what.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, like you you set out what you want here, Yeah, away,
you've never been doing anything like this before now, so.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Obviously you're supposed to make the real doesn't me? Oh
obviously I don't know. So when I was obviously looking
into it more, there's people that deal it obviously as
a full time job. So the type of people they
would like, say, there was one girl in particular and
apparently TikTok is full of it and sells Twitter. Oh,
(19:08):
there's one girl in particular, say, I think she was American,
and she was saying like, if you want to even
show your interests, you have to have to tip her
twenty dollars to even be like hello. And then if
she gets back to you, she basically sends it this
form where it's like you have to fill out like
your outgoings, you know, like you're so she can say
(19:31):
how much disposible income you have, like say at the
end of the week, at the end of the month,
whatever way you get paid, or so she knows how
much to take. But then obviously that's a bit more like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
She won't see if she doesn't want to do too
much yet. Yeah, it's definitely while.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
There would be some people that wouldn't think about like
how much money they have left dail dostrain it full
stop and that's it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's tough shit, Like do you think it's a mental issue.
So I had this, I would feel I would feel bad.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know, I was kind of because I just find
people fascinating in general, like and say especially with like
say kinks and different things that people are into, like
because they would never kink shame anybody, you know what
I mean. I'd be pretty open minded on to sex.
But to him, that to him is like having an
orb of them, like like having X.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So he's is he winking off to this to get this?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah yeah, so like and but basically obviously the people
are different. But for him, he his favoriting was like
to get ignored, to get insulted, which would be out
of my character completely. Like so there was funny things
that he'd asked me to charge him for so and
(20:45):
one it would be like a compax. So like if
I if he say, had to have a wink and
he came, I'd have to charge him money, like a
tax on it. How much?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
How much is the winks these days? Depends?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Like I think I might have charged twenty euro one.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Twenty euro wink? And was he fly out with the
wink and or just to just.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He sometimes and he wouldn't do it unless I told him,
Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, So that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Of powers in your hands there, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So I was just like, you knows being called a loser.
Wanted me to change his name to loser on my phone, right,
And he'd so say, for argument's sake, if we were
having a conversation, he'd ask for like a couple of
minutes of my time. So I was kind of just
winging it to be honest. So I was like, well,
(21:34):
will you have to pay? You know? Like I was
like time is money. I was like, he was like
money loser, Yeah, literally a loser. He was like if
I send you like ten euro like can I I
was like a eurown minute? I was like you can
get ten minutes for ten year old? You know, because
I was just like what was to be saying? No,
like like how far can I stretches? Obviously? You know,
(21:57):
he because then at the end of the day, I
was kind of like, well, I obviously don't want to
take like hundreds on this on this man because I
have a conscience as well. But then at the same time,
I was like, look, he's a content and adult. At
the end of the day, nobody's getting hurt and not
obviously Robin Tellson's on him either, you know what I mean.
It was kind of little and often the way he
(22:18):
done it with me.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Do you know what job he has? Did he have
much money or.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
He had an okay job? Yeah, he had an okay job.
And he did say to me at a few times
that he was gonna like go into his savings, and
I was like no, no, no, no, Like that's when I
was aboart. Oh god, the girls. Yeah, so he wants
(22:46):
to warn probably I'm trying to think now, probably a
year ish on and off, you know. Yeah. Yeah, So
like the way he wanted to do or was he
wanted to give me a weekly a leftnce just for
being there, basically for doing nothing else. It was for
being you a weekly allowance, and then he wanted me
(23:08):
to do a spreadsheet basically like other stuff. So say,
there'd be times where I like, I could just message him.
I remember I sent him a picture of my Petro gage,
you know, and it was on empty, so I sent her.
I just sent him a picture and I was like,
I need Petro, bitch. He sent and he sent it
(23:34):
and he was like, that's the fucking hottest thing I've
ever done. But he he basically said to me, when
I met you straight away, I knew you would be
good at And I was like, hell you mean? And
he was like, you're just you're very like I suppose
I am a very dumb like i'd have a dominant personality.
I think i'd be it's a lot of loud, it's
the right word. But I'm very like, I'm certain in myself,
(23:56):
you know that way. I'm like, I'm quite comfortable in
young skin. And he was like I knew, but he
was like, I was gonna you'd say it to you
before and then I kind of chickened out. And then
we said when you put that post up, I said
to this, so fuck it all chances, you know, and
what the what are the.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Worst things you said to him? Can you can you
think about like luck in your messages with him?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah? Yeah, as well? Actually he his favorite team was
to see me slagging him to other people. Oh fuck,
so he would pay. He would pay to see this screenehot.
Now nobody knew who he was. But I would just
send the chat, you know what I mean, and block
out whatever. You'd be in.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What a group chat with girls saying this fucking smelly
bastards over here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Man? If they joined in and it was even better?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And what did your friends think about this?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They were a bit shocked first, but they were like, no,
you're fucking lying. And I was like, I'm promise it,
I'm not lying. I remember there was one night. There
was one particular night right, I was out with my friends,
but it was a group there was kind of lad
dan girls and we were chatting away and they don't
how I had told one of my friends and they
were like, tell tell them, tell them about your pigure
(25:13):
And I was like, they were like excuse me, what like?
And I said like, I have a pay pick and
they were like what do you mean? And I said,
sends me money and they were like sugar daddy. I
was like, no, it doesn't like you know. I was like,
that's not what it is. Actually, yeah, yeah, And I
was telling one of my friend's husbands, and he was like,
pithought even like, there's no there's no a And I
was like, I'm telling you and he was like, no, no,
(25:34):
I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I said,
have a look like that. I just let him have
a look because like the name and all this different,
so he couldn't say anything, you know. So I was like,
have a look there, and I said, I'm going to
the bar. I said, leave the chat open, I said,
and he can see, you know, the message is coming
through so ivery, like so there's one there's one card here,
so it's like there either all one after the other. Right,
(25:57):
if I pay, I can chat a little. I'm only
like plase On begging, begging hard. I'm desperate, Jesus on
the sad act place. I'm weak. And then the little
emoji on the knees and the praying plays let these
tics go blue. I will sit on this chat, of course,
I'll pay. You're on left on saying damn, what would
(26:18):
I have to what would I have to send to chat?
Like a loser?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So what is he just looking for? Like a few
minutes of your time just for you? To degrade him
a little bit, send him a few insults or something.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, so probably like I remember the words online felt
like sitting sorry as because I know, you know obviously
that real stuff the board, like, you know, I just said,
oh my god, you're so desperate. Don't be asked me
stupid questions. Can I pay for every reply I get
off you? And I said that could get expensive? And
(26:53):
he was like, could I pay exit and descent per reply?
And I said, scent, come on now. And then then say,
there was that particular night he was like, I'd love
to buy you and your friends a drink and I
was like, yeah, we're drinking cocktails. And he was like,
can I send you Let's just say fifty euro And
I was like, do you know how much a fucking
(27:14):
whiskey seller is? And he was like how much is it?
And I was let's just say it was fifteen euro.
I was like fifteen by five and he sent it
for the drink. So I was asking him. I was like,
where did this come about? You know? Because I was like,
I'm not judging you. I was like, I'm just genuinely curious.
And he was like he's like he's very an open book,
you know what I mean. And he was basically like,
(27:36):
I've always been kind of like inky, say, into kinky stuff,
he said. And then I don't know how he basically
stumbled across this one day and he was like, no,
this is actually this is what I want. So he happened.
He was a bit of me. Yeah, and then he
had he had another one before me, but I think
she was like an online person so like didn't know her. Yeah,
(27:59):
he didn't know mind the.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Fact that he met you in real life. He like
as opposed to keeping that kind of his se you know,
separate to his real life personality where he goes out
and meet people. You know, I'll be thinking like, yeah,
I'll keep that kink privates and just to these random
internet women that do not fucking know me. But he's
no issue with that. He's no issue met you in
(28:21):
a bar, like it was looking like potentially going towards dating,
but no.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I was genuinely curious because I was like, you're
not interested then in women, or like he's just not
interested at the minute, or you know, like because he
was chatting all age me because like that he's a
lovely guy, so I have a lot of respect for him,
you know what I mean, because he's quite open, like
I said, And he was basically just saying that like
he at the moment now like he doesn't have any
(28:47):
interest he's interested in women both that this is kind
of what he enjoys and.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Start looking at like getting married, having children or whatever.
All he wants is to get his rocks off by
being insulted integrated by women and pretty much.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But then I think that's possibly why he might have
wanted to stop, you know, because he said, like, do
know what I mean, he's very cleared in like he's
very much head screwed on. Because he was telling me
that he like he spoke to like a terrapist and
you know, stuff like that. And I was like, what
did they say, you know what, what was their comment
on it? And he was saying basically that once it's
(29:25):
not like an unhealthy kind of obsession or whatever, and
like that she didn't seem to have a problem with it.
Put it that way, like you know, like I suppose
like people and all people smoke, people drink, like I
don't know, you spend your money on what like it
is mad Like obviously they've never encountered it before, but
the more I started looking into it, I was like,
(29:46):
this is actually he said, it's really really popular.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sorry, how did it end? Who ended us? Who put
it forward that it was?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He was basically like he had said to me, well
he wanted to give like a certain announced and blah blah.
But then it was kind of dropping off, you know.
So I was like, I'm not going to chase something like.
I was like, you want you asked me for this,
like do you know what I mean? And he was
basically saying he just had a few bits going on,
and I was like, yeah, look now hassle like you know.
I was like, at the end of the day, you
(30:15):
asked me so like I was like, if you want
to pull the cord on this, there's no there's no problem,
like you know. And and because I was like we're
killed anyway, I was like, so dumb, I don't think
it'll be awkward or aren't like that nobody nobody knows,
you know what I mean. It was just between me and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Hen So I must you think you got off him
in the end.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
One hundred, I'd say, yeah, probably more trying to think
I know, I got a hundreds no, A couple of hundred,
A couple of hundred. Ye yeah, probably was less than here.
I'm trying to think now, because it wasn't solid, you know,
like every it was kind of in and out. But
I'd say probably like to no, I would have got
more because I think I gotta go two hundred euro
off from over a weekend period, right, all like little
(31:02):
little tanks, like little small amounts, you know, Like he
was asked and say for money for the for a
picture of the money for a picture of the conversation.
Then he wanted money of a picture of may stick
my finger up, but nothing like not naked, not like that,
just like one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Did you send any feed picks?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Did I send them a feed picture? I think I
might have sent them one in a pair of boots
but no face.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He loves the fucking the financial domination and the feet.
That's the two kings in one there.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, so yeah, I think he is like a submissive,
like in the bedroom as well. Normally if you're normally,
if you are financially it would be the other way.
I actually think most men are submissive, but they don't
want to admit it.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I don't know, then I look at all those fucking
weirdos that you come across on dating apps with them
and they're saying like that they're looking for a submissive woman.
I think you're just actually a woman beater basically. You
want to.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well that as well? Then you know what I did
think as well. I'm like most of them are all
talk and then actually comes down to it, you're your
deal one. No, I remember now because they give you
an example. Even want to be like, I've had this
conversation with friends before and I remember whose one fella
and he was full of it, you know, he was like, yeah,
I want to do this, and I want to do
that and all this carry on and I was like, loefully, yeah,
(32:21):
can't wait, so lady, I was like, grant perfect, but.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
He just laid there.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Princess, yeah, fellow prindcess, little may Fane. I was like, here,
I'm the worst to dominate, right possible.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like he'd be like, jump me through this. I'm like,
if that makes you happy, go for it, like hands.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I doesn't. I don't have it in me to be
fucking brutal, because I'd be thinking, then am I a
bad bastard? Am I a bad bastard that I have
this this person. Are they are they?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Like, are they well? I don't know. But then there's
so many people like you, you know, all these people
who are like, don't kink shame. People are into what
they're into, and I'm like, okay, well if what they're
into is fucking sending me money where I say, tanks, pig, cheers,
pig grand that'll get me and the.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Girls who drinks their pick crying over well, exactly when
I tell me friends like that, they were like, fuck
off and they were like, where can I get one?
That was I would say ninety five percent of people's reactions.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
The girls are saying that to me as well. They
were hunting. One of the girls straight at her and
her boyfriend fly looking up how to get paid pig.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
From mayor do you know where this this guy was from?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
He's Irish. Have you looked into doing it? Maybe professionally?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
So I haven't looked into they on a refresh because
I don't think I'd have the time to put into it,
because it does, like if you're doing a full whack,
it does take a lot of time. And because even
when I was watching these girls, like the hat can
fuck he can sayous so me. Maroni said to me
the other day something was on the terrible people selling
(34:05):
their town al clippers and I was laughing. Not she
didn't know that I was doing that, Like I was my.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Feet into slices of bread, do you know? Yeah, let's
start making an imprint.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That by full finder is it me and me friendly?
I had that one day to the crack and have
a look, and those people mash from the datas at
their feet. Now we were crying and I was like, no,
this is what's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's a mad business. But you haven't seen him since
run thing. There's been no like that part of it
fizzled out and the yeah there was no coffee dates
anyway after that, I tell.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You there was no coffee dates now and but yeah,
just mad mad He'll set up all the time.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
The girl there like fuck it, you know, it's like
why not? But sorry, Yeah, I've got a few messages
obviously when I followed certain pages on TikTok, either girls
doing it. I started getting messages down off men because
obviously they're probably looking into who's following him or might
like you know, people you may know or whatever. And
I don't really know how the whole algorithm and TikTok works,
(35:08):
but I got a couple of messages and I actually
screenshot them and sent them to him, and I was like,
what he seems like a time waister, and he was like, yeah,
he's not legit.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right, Okay, No he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, because he was like, no, they're that's that's bollocks,
like you know, And because like that, a lot of
them were like, oh, do you want to know? So
a few people have sent me messages saying like, hey, honey,
you know, I'd like to fund your lifestyle, and I'll
tend text them back and be like, hey, sweetheart, yeah,
that's no problem. I only deal with paypigs, so so
that's something you're interested in, let me know. And a
(35:47):
lot of the time they'll come back and they'll say
either they don't they're not too sure what. I'm sure
they know the paypig is, but like they won't kind
of engage and they're just like, oh, I'm looking for
a companion. I'm like, nah, like.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You know, that's just some gammer.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
That's some of the picture of some American I would add,
you know, usually yeah, but Jesus very exciting anyway, and
you know, hopefully hopefully another one, another legit one finds
you gives you a few bugs.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Because like that, Yeah, he wanted to kind of fizzle
it out. And I was like, look, that's that's what
he liked us now. And but he has said to
me once or twice, ah, like you know, he'd be
like all relappositely hot, like about like doing it again.
Because I actually I actually sent him when you had
it up on your story, I sent it to him
and he wrote back saying interesting, and I was like, yeah,
(36:35):
we were having the chaff. She has one as well,
and he was like pissed off. I was like, yeah, yeah,
now she has one. And then he was like no.
But we were talking about that film Baby Girl, and
I was like, did you watch it? And he was
I can't remember if you'd watched it, and I was
saying it was good. They said like I was like
a few people would say, oh, to be fucked up,
but I was like they're probably just a bit sheltered
(36:55):
or whatever. But we were laughing. But I said it
actually would have been more interested. I think if I
had have been the other way around, and the man
had been a submissive obviously, who is it? That's yeah, yeah, yeah,
so basically, yeah, you should look at it. But basically
(37:18):
she's like the CEO of a company and he comes in.
He's an intern. I think he's an intern, and they
start having this relationship, but she like that. He kind
of tells her what to you, gets on her knees,
all this carry on, which is grand like. But I
thought obviously she was the powerful one, which is normally
a man's say, for example. But I think it would
(37:41):
have been a better plot and more impested.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
There was the other way around.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, and then that the woman was dominating him, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, no, I get you.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I suppose that's what we're used to and maybe they
just wanted to change it up. But I may watch now.
I didn't know that was the fucking plot of that film.
I'll definitely want it. Thanks so much. That was very interesting.
You're the only You're the only dominatrix I've gotten so July.
It m
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
So this week we are getting into the world of
pay pigging, which honestly is probably one of the weird,
weirdest experiences that I've had so far. So at the
start of the episode, I'm going to bring you through
some of the conversations I had with the pay pig
that I was talking to for about seven months, just
to set the scene, and you'll hear straight away that
I wasn't exactly comfortable with it. In half the time,
(00:33):
I didn't know if I was talking to a pervert
or if I was actually taking advantage of somebody who
was not mentally well. And I kicked off last October.
Me and my boyfriend were in Tenerief when I got
this message, and two of us were like, what the
fuck is this. Then we were like, you know, fuck it.
If he wants to send messages, I'm not going to
do anything. You know, I'm not going to send him
(00:54):
voice notes or abuse the shout out of him, because
that's kind of what they wanted to be, like put
into their place. And as it went on, I was like,
oh my god, this would be a really interesting podcast
episode because he was so keen and he was all
for it. And then out of nowhere, he ends it
and blocks me, so that's that that's gone anyway, And
(01:18):
I was thinking, right again, this has all gone on
a bit too long. Now I'll get him on the podcast,
you know. That will make for a very interesting listening,
and then the whole sorry thing will be put to bed.
But no, he got there first. So after that then
I will be joined by Nive, who got into financial
domination herself, and she took to it like a duck
(01:39):
to water, as she took to it about fucking better
than I did anyway, So between my strange little saga
and her first hand experience, you will get the full
picture of how mad this whole thing can be. At
the time, I was on the fence, so I put
a pole up on my Instagram store and I asked people,
(02:00):
if you were in a situation where a paypig is
approached to and wanted to give you money, what would
you do? And it was resounding yes, absolutely, I would
take it if somebody wanted to give me free money.
So I said, yeah, fuck it. If you know I
don't have to do anything except fucking say thanks pig,
(02:21):
and my boyfriend is involved, then sure that's grant but
anyway things went on, and anyway you can see for
yourself from the conversation here and for anybody who does
not know what a paypig is or finnam financial domination.
So in the realm of BDSM this is According to
(02:43):
Urban Dictionary, a paypig is a submissive, almost always male,
who has consented to financial servitude towards his mistress. Term
used in a derogatory slash humiliating light, usually by mistresses.
Another one is a paypig is typically a male who
pays a woman, not always a professional, to financially dominate him.
(03:05):
He has no worth aside from pleasing his finndom. The
paypig or money slave is often rationed by his findom
as to how much of his own money he can
have access to, in some cases handing over his bank
information and leases to property. So obviously you can see
from that they did not go that fucking far.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But anyway, enjoy, Can I send you money on PayPal?
Please paypig here?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Why not? My PayPal email is the Dayton Orange at
gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Thank you will send immediately and address you as Goddess
Send got it? Thanks very much, You're welcome. Could I
send more at some point.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You can, of course, no problem, excellent, I will do.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Could I ever send you money to send a voice note?
Send more goddess?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh cheers, and it's a probably not to the voice note.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I'm afraid that's no worries. Would you like me to
send you something every week? I don't want to be
two forward. I expect nothing in return.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That is totally up to you. It's cool with me
if it makes you happy.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, perfect, I'm happy to do. You like having that power.
Not sure if you commonly get men sending you money,
But you're hilarious and have a lovely voice. I'll send
more next week.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I got a few offers before all right. Oh cheers.
Glad you enjoyed the page.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You're very welcome. Enjoy your day. If you make a
wish list, I can buy some items for you too.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think that would involve you having my address, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh okay, Well maybe if you told me what the
items cost, I could just send the money because I
respect your privacy.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Ah yeah, okay, that could work. How long are you
at this pay pigging?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I've been doing it for three years now. I'd like
to give back some of what I earn to remain humble.
I also like to send money to one woman at
a time because I think a lot of women deserve
to be spoiled or treated well.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's an interesting concept.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I also love the power dynamic that I'd send money
whenever the person asked for it. I like that feeling
of submission.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I see, Well, surely you'd get sick of the same
woman after a while and move on to another one
to keep it interesting. How do you decide on your
new recipient or pay piglet?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, I'd like to keep sending you money anyways. I
do love your voice and humor and content. If I
stumble upon them and I find them attractive, I would ask.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Them interesting, well, thanks? Every day is a school day.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Paypig slash finndom is in common in Ireland mostly the UK.
How many men have sent you money before? And what
amounts would they have sent? What would you like me
to address you as?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I don't mind. I will leave it up to you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'll be happy with the approach of sending you the
money and saying it's done, as I understand you wouldn't
want to go any further than that. I would like
if you addressed me as bitch, but you don't have
to do that. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, don't worry.
You won't have that from me.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't think that I can call you bitch anyway.
I've got to run chat you again.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No worries. Enjoy your day, Goddess, Pig for now, then,
can I send more today please? Goddess? Yeah, no problem, okay,
right away, send Goddess. I will send more soon. You've
got me whiped now sent more?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh Jesus, you didn't have to send me anymore. Cheers though.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Okay, oh wait till next week? Then? Sorry? Could I
send you more tomorrow? Goddess?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, of course, send away, Pig.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I love when you call me pig. It instantly puts
me in my place, Pig. I love it. Send Goddess.
I'll send whenever you say.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Got it there? Thanks a million, Pig. I wonder would
you be interested in chatting about pay piged them on
a podcast episode.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You're very welcome. Yes, I'd love to. I'm going to
send more later, Goddess. I could wear a mask to
protect my identity. You do podcasts? I love the blind
Boy one I'll give yours a listen.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's audio only, so not to worry. I'm starting season
two shortly. I think this would be a very interesting topic.
I'll get back to you about it in the next
few weeks. I'm glad you're interested on your.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Perfect That sounds good. That would be amazing to talk about,
and I'd really appreciate the platform to speak about it
because I think in Ireland especially, we are very traditional
and we don't like anything different or you it's definitely
unheard of in this country. Still goes on a fair bit,
but not as much as the likes of the UK.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think people would like to hear about it too.
How would you know how much it goes on or
doesn't go on? Is there a forum where do you know?
People who do it?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well? On Twitter, the hashtag findom if you typed in
will show all of the accounts of people who are
into it, and I can gauge from that where it's popular.
I always love finding new trends and ways to break
out of my shell. Expression of submission is so exhilarating,
and it's nice to submit yourself when you're always in
(08:52):
control of your life. Some people also dress up like
a pig and walk around on a leash.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Jenny, I suppose it is a spectrum. I'll get back
to you with a few questions that I plan to ask,
so you can prepare a bit and maybe just have
a think about things that you would like to bring
up as well.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, perfect, sounds good. Can I send you more later?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, please do pig?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yes, Goddess, send more? Am I a good slave? I
will send more later too. I love serving you. Can
I trot to the eight and m again?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yes? Boss? On the way over there now?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Can't wait? Pig?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
How much should I send for Halloween? I will dress
up as a pig?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Does anyone know that you do this? Friends? Or anything?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
They do? I love the feeling of humiliation. I love
the feeling of humiliation. If I was to dress up
as one, send.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Go for a pig and cheers?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Should I write pig and my four right? You're welcome,
Goddess going to send you more soon? How much would
you like gods writing pig on my forehead? I did it?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, And how was that received?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I felt really good, really humiliated, and was laughed So
it was great, crack. It was liberating I'll send what
I can now and send more on Thursday. You should
have seen it, no hussle.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thanks about You're.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Most welcome and we'll let you know as soon as
it's sent. Sent. Happy to write a pig on my
forward now after sending it? How long should I leave
it on for? I'll send more later on too. I
do love the idea of you being superior, Goddess being
from Dublin and I'm a pig. I will definitely impress
(10:50):
you with my next sent. I'll try to send the most.
If you have any other pigs.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sounds good, Piggy looking forward to us.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I will be saying it to you and kneeling. Goddess.
Do you prefer godss or Boss? And I can't wait either.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think we can move on to Boss now. That
suits me?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Okay, that's perfect. Send you a good amount.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
There, boss, h Jenny, thanks a million?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Can I send more? Boss?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Absolutely? Pig send away?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Will do? And should I write pig on my forehead afterwards?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You should do whatever makes you happy. And if that's
writing on your forehead then.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yes, yes, Boss, we'll do that immediately. I will eave
it on for two hours and walk around in.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Public fair play, making sure lots of people see you.
No messing with you pig.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, I will and I'll do whatever it takes to
you maniate myself. Happy to send more to everyone is
looking at me. It's so liberating. I'd send more soon.
I wish I could hear a voice note from you.
Just send fifty Could you please call me a filthy peasant.
I'm a pay pig.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Would you be free Monday evening to do thirty minutes
call for the podcast?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Thank you God this? Yes, I would be What would
the podcast entail?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You could stay anonymous completely obviously. I would just ask
you questions like why do you do it, how did
you get into it, how does it work, why do
you think you do it? Etc? And do your friends
know it's a half an hour zoom call camera off?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Okay perfect. I'd be up from that definitely. And also
I will send you more money soon. I would like
to send whatever. I can love being a peasant.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
What time tomorrow? Suits would seven thirty work?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I can't do it. I'm sorry. My head's not with
it lately and I was blocked.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And the if you have dabbled in a bit of
pay pigan, is that right, Yeah, my stories.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And where do I starts?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Do you want me? I think, like, I just think
it's mad how you even met the fella in the
first place. So like when you told me that you
were whatever, you were, the opposite of the pig you were.
It was what's the name for it, But you were
doing dominant. I think you were financial dominator. You were
(13:25):
the dominator in that situation. But yes, so tell us,
tell us how you met the fella.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Anyway, I met him on and knight OL. We got
chatting and he was pretty flirty with me and there
was nothing kind of gone back or forth, and then
he was slaty with me, but no, there was no
kissing or anything that night, but I thought it was
gone that way. But anyways, we exchanged numbers or whatever,
and then he was kind of blown hot and cold
(13:51):
hot and cold hot, and called was talking about going
on a date then, wouldn't you know. But then I
was like I don't understand. I was like I don't
get this, like you know, So then followed me on Instagram,
follow them back, same thing like me, pictures react into
certain things. Then radio silence, and I was just like,
what the fuck's going on? Like, I just didn't understand this.
(14:11):
So after a while I was kind of I said
it once or twice about going for a coffee, and
then it was kind of like yeah, yeah, but then nothing.
So I was kind of like, look, do you want
to go where a coffee or not? Do you know
what I mean? And then yeah, I was like it's
yes or no. Like so anyways, he was like, oh,
I'm just kind of doing my own thing. At the minute,
(14:33):
I was like, that's kill whatever. So then what happened
was I put something funny on my story and it
was like talking about it was like you know that
and video clip of Donald Trump, and it's like I
haven't done it, but I thought about it. I might
do it, like it's saying that and it was like
basically talking with seven feet pictures. So I was like
but he responded thening people pay for that, you know,
(14:55):
like I had it up as a joke and I
was like, oh, yeah, I know, like blah blah blah.
So then and he was like no, I'm serious, you know.
So we were having an escape back and forth and
I was like, yeah, like you know, I'm well aware,
blah blah blah. So then he was just like no, like,
I'd absolutely pay, and I was like, still, he's a
bit of a wind up. So I thought he was
(15:16):
joking at this point. Yeah, well yeah, yes, because he's
very funny. So I was like, no, he's clearly messing,
you know. So anyways, so then he anyway with the
conversation went on and he said no, I'd gladly pay,
and I said, well, I didn't see a pain from
MacDonald's breakfast this morning. Ahhh jokes. You know, next all
(15:39):
I get notification such and such, I sent you twenty
or one revelue. And at this point I was still
corrective because I was like, he's trying to be funny obviously,
you know, he thinks he's so funny or whatever. And
he was like, no, that's like what I'm into it.
And I was like, what do you mean. That's such
an inn't it. I was like, what are you talking about?
(16:00):
And he was like have you ever heard a findom?
But I just thought it was like an authopract, was
like your main fendom And he was like no, no,
now bindom. He was like, gurgle this, So I gurgled it, obviously,
and it was like talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Nial domination, But what was the other one you.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Thought it was, which is just female domination as in
like someone who liked to dominate brix as in sexually,
you know what I mean? So like, well, I don't
I wouldn't like be too raised on it bout my
idea of like female domination. It's like they like being
dominated sexually. They like being the submissive, say the men like.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Being the submissive of the female, being dominated by a
female basically yeah, yeah, and then what finndom is financial domination.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Being dominated, being dam is financial domination. So it's just
domination through your finances, nothing sexual much. Was like, you know,
I was like, so you don't want like I was
kind of like, nah, there has to be a cat,
you know, because you hear you know, these messages you
get off lat like men and they're like, hi, honey,
(17:04):
would you like a sugar Like yeah? So I was
like and he was I was like, so like a
sugar daddy. I was getting him to explain, and he
was like, no, no, it's not it's not a sugar daddy.
Like a sugar daddy like like that they want things
in exchange, Like I don't want anything in exchange. I
was like nothing. He was like no. So I was like,
(17:25):
he was like, like would you be into it? And
I was like I would not be into it. I
was like you know what, why not? Like you know,
I was like, what's the what's the harm? So then
obviously I went looking down more into it. Then and
there's a there's a show and it's a boy that
girl Olivia what's her name? And what is it? That
(17:47):
three girl from I Want Them? Yeah, I think she's
off of violence. I've never watched it, so I'm brute
up bo and she's a blonde girl anyway, but she'd
on a shower on it apparently, and it's obviously based
in the UK, and she's talking to people who do
it like as a full time it's full time thing.
(18:09):
And he was like you should watch that show, like
and this girl was talking to a lot and she
was like she was talking to him. It was like
on zoom. But I don't know if he could say
her or if he couldn't say her, but she basically
drained him of like seven hundred pounds in this space
like ten minutes. Oh my gosh. So we were obviously
(18:30):
chatting back and forth, having a laugh and I was like,
so out, why do you want this to work? You know,
because I was like, it's new to me, so I
don't really know, you know what.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, like you you set out what you want here, Yeah, away,
you've never been doing anything like this before now, so.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Obviously you're supposed to make the real doesn't me? Oh
obviously I don't know. So when I was obviously looking
into it more, there's people that deal it obviously as
a full time job. So the type of people they
would like, say, there was one girl in particular and
apparently TikTok is full of it and sells Twitter. Oh,
(19:08):
there's one girl in particular, say, I think she was American,
and she was saying like, if you want to even
show your interests, you have to have to tip her
twenty dollars to even be like hello. And then if
she gets back to you, she basically sends it this
form where it's like you have to fill out like
your outgoings, you know, like you're so she can say
(19:31):
how much disposible income you have, like say at the
end of the week, at the end of the month,
whatever way you get paid, or so she knows how
much to take. But then obviously that's a bit more like.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
She won't see if she doesn't want to do too
much yet. Yeah, it's definitely while.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
There would be some people that wouldn't think about like
how much money they have left dail dostrain it full
stop and that's it.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That's tough shit, Like do you think it's a mental issue.
So I had this, I would feel I would feel bad.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know, I was kind of because I just find
people fascinating in general, like and say especially with like
say kinks and different things that people are into, like
because they would never kink shame anybody, you know what
I mean. I'd be pretty open minded on to sex.
But to him, that to him is like having an
orb of them, like like having X.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So he's is he winking off to this to get this?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah yeah, so like and but basically obviously the people
are different. But for him, he his favoriting was like
to get ignored, to get insulted, which would be out
of my character completely. Like so there was funny things
that he'd asked me to charge him for so and
(20:45):
one it would be like a compax. So like if
I if he say, had to have a wink and
he came, I'd have to charge him money, like a
tax on it. How much?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
How much is the winks these days? Depends?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Like I think I might have charged twenty euro one.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Twenty euro wink? And was he fly out with the
wink and or just to just.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He sometimes and he wouldn't do it unless I told him,
Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, So that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Of powers in your hands there, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So I was just like, you knows being called a loser.
Wanted me to change his name to loser on my phone, right,
And he'd so say, for argument's sake, if we were
having a conversation, he'd ask for like a couple of
minutes of my time. So I was kind of just
winging it to be honest. So I was like, well,
(21:34):
will you have to pay? You know? Like I was
like time is money. I was like, he was like
money loser, Yeah, literally a loser. He was like if
I send you like ten euro like can I I
was like a eurown minute? I was like you can
get ten minutes for ten year old? You know, because
I was just like what was to be saying? No,
like like how far can I stretches? Obviously? You know,
(21:57):
he because then at the end of the day, I
was kind of like, well, I obviously don't want to
take like hundreds on this on this man because I
have a conscience as well. But then at the same time,
I was like, look, he's a content and adult. At
the end of the day, nobody's getting hurt and not
obviously Robin Tellson's on him either, you know what I mean.
It was kind of little and often the way he
(22:18):
done it with me.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Do you know what job he has? Did he have
much money or.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
He had an okay job? Yeah, he had an okay job.
And he did say to me at a few times
that he was gonna like go into his savings, and
I was like no, no, no, no, Like that's when I
was aboart. Oh god, the girls. Yeah, so he wants
(22:46):
to warn probably I'm trying to think now, probably a
year ish on and off, you know. Yeah. Yeah, So
like the way he wanted to do or was he
wanted to give me a weekly a leftnce just for
being there, basically for doing nothing else. It was for
being you a weekly allowance, and then he wanted me
(23:08):
to do a spreadsheet basically like other stuff. So say,
there'd be times where I like, I could just message him.
I remember I sent him a picture of my Petro gage,
you know, and it was on empty, so I sent her.
I just sent him a picture and I was like,
I need Petro, bitch. He sent and he sent it
(23:34):
and he was like, that's the fucking hottest thing I've
ever done. But he he basically said to me, when
I met you straight away, I knew you would be
good at And I was like, hell you mean? And
he was like, you're just you're very like I suppose
I am a very dumb like i'd have a dominant personality.
I think i'd be it's a lot of loud, it's
the right word. But I'm very like, I'm certain in myself,
(23:56):
you know that way. I'm like, I'm quite comfortable in
young skin. And he was like I knew, but he
was like, I was gonna you'd say it to you
before and then I kind of chickened out. And then
we said when you put that post up, I said
to this, so fuck it all chances, you know, and
what the what are the.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Worst things you said to him? Can you can you
think about like luck in your messages with him?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah? Yeah, as well? Actually he his favorite team was
to see me slagging him to other people. Oh fuck,
so he would pay. He would pay to see this screenehot.
Now nobody knew who he was. But I would just
send the chat, you know what I mean, and block
out whatever. You'd be in.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
What a group chat with girls saying this fucking smelly
bastards over here? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Man? If they joined in and it was even better?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And what did your friends think about this?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They were a bit shocked first, but they were like, no,
you're fucking lying. And I was like, I'm promise it,
I'm not lying. I remember there was one night. There
was one particular night right, I was out with my friends,
but it was a group there was kind of lad
dan girls and we were chatting away and they don't
how I had told one of my friends and they
were like, tell tell them, tell them about your pigure
(25:13):
And I was like, they were like excuse me, what like?
And I said like, I have a pay pick and
they were like what do you mean? And I said,
sends me money and they were like sugar daddy. I
was like, no, it doesn't like you know. I was like,
that's not what it is. Actually, yeah, yeah, And I
was telling one of my friend's husbands, and he was like,
pithought even like, there's no there's no a And I
was like, I'm telling you and he was like, no, no,
(25:34):
I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I said,
have a look like that. I just let him have
a look because like the name and all this different,
so he couldn't say anything, you know. So I was like,
have a look there, and I said, I'm going to
the bar. I said, leave the chat open, I said,
and he can see, you know, the message is coming
through so ivery, like so there's one there's one card here,
so it's like there either all one after the other. Right,
(25:57):
if I pay, I can chat a little. I'm only
like plase On begging, begging hard. I'm desperate, Jesus on
the sad act place. I'm weak. And then the little
emoji on the knees and the praying plays let these
tics go blue. I will sit on this chat, of course,
I'll pay. You're on left on saying damn, what would
(26:18):
I have to what would I have to send to chat?
Like a loser?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So what is he just looking for? Like a few
minutes of your time just for you? To degrade him
a little bit, send him a few insults or something.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, so probably like I remember the words online felt
like sitting sorry as because I know, you know obviously
that real stuff the board, like, you know, I just said,
oh my god, you're so desperate. Don't be asked me
stupid questions. Can I pay for every reply I get
off you? And I said that could get expensive? And
(26:53):
he was like, could I pay exit and descent per reply?
And I said, scent, come on now. And then then say,
there was that particular night he was like, I'd love
to buy you and your friends a drink and I
was like, yeah, we're drinking cocktails. And he was like,
can I send you Let's just say fifty euro And
I was like, do you know how much a fucking
(27:14):
whiskey seller is? And he was like how much is it?
And I was let's just say it was fifteen euro.
I was like fifteen by five and he sent it
for the drink. So I was asking him. I was like,
where did this come about? You know? Because I was like,
I'm not judging you. I was like, I'm just genuinely curious.
And he was like he's like he's very an open book,
you know what I mean. And he was basically like,
(27:36):
I've always been kind of like inky, say, into kinky stuff,
he said. And then I don't know how he basically
stumbled across this one day and he was like, no,
this is actually this is what I want. So he happened.
He was a bit of me. Yeah, and then he
had he had another one before me, but I think
she was like an online person so like didn't know her. Yeah,
(27:59):
he didn't know mind the.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Fact that he met you in real life. He like
as opposed to keeping that kind of his se you know,
separate to his real life personality where he goes out
and meet people. You know, I'll be thinking like, yeah,
I'll keep that kink privates and just to these random
internet women that do not fucking know me. But he's
no issue with that. He's no issue met you in
(28:21):
a bar, like it was looking like potentially going towards dating,
but no.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I was genuinely curious because I was like, you're
not interested then in women, or like he's just not
interested at the minute, or you know, like because he
was chatting all age me because like that he's a
lovely guy, so I have a lot of respect for him,
you know what I mean, because he's quite open, like
I said, And he was basically just saying that like
he at the moment now like he doesn't have any
(28:47):
interest he's interested in women both that this is kind
of what he enjoys and.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Start looking at like getting married, having children or whatever.
All he wants is to get his rocks off by
being insulted integrated by women and pretty much.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
But then I think that's possibly why he might have
wanted to stop, you know, because he said, like, do
know what I mean, he's very cleared in like he's
very much head screwed on. Because he was telling me
that he like he spoke to like a terrapist and
you know, stuff like that. And I was like, what
did they say, you know what, what was their comment
on it? And he was saying basically that once it's
(29:25):
not like an unhealthy kind of obsession or whatever, and
like that she didn't seem to have a problem with it.
Put it that way, like you know, like I suppose
like people and all people smoke, people drink, like I
don't know, you spend your money on what like it
is mad Like obviously they've never encountered it before, but
the more I started looking into it, I was like,
(29:46):
this is actually he said, it's really really popular.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sorry, how did it end? Who ended us? Who put
it forward that it was?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
He was basically like he had said to me, well
he wanted to give like a certain announced and blah blah.
But then it was kind of dropping off, you know.
So I was like, I'm not going to chase something like.
I was like, you want you asked me for this,
like do you know what I mean? And he was
basically saying he just had a few bits going on,
and I was like, yeah, look now hassle like you know.
I was like, at the end of the day, you
(30:15):
asked me so like I was like, if you want
to pull the cord on this, there's no there's no problem,
like you know. And and because I was like we're
killed anyway, I was like, so dumb, I don't think
it'll be awkward or aren't like that nobody nobody knows,
you know what I mean. It was just between me and.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Hen So I must you think you got off him
in the end.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
One hundred, I'd say, yeah, probably more trying to think
I know, I got a hundreds no, A couple of hundred,
A couple of hundred. Ye yeah, probably was less than here.
I'm trying to think now, because it wasn't solid, you know,
like every it was kind of in and out. But
I'd say probably like to no, I would have got
more because I think I gotta go two hundred euro
off from over a weekend period, right, all like little
(31:02):
little tanks, like little small amounts, you know, Like he
was asked and say for money for the for a
picture of the money for a picture of the conversation.
Then he wanted money of a picture of may stick
my finger up, but nothing like not naked, not like that,
just like one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Did you send any feed picks?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Did I send them a feed picture? I think I
might have sent them one in a pair of boots
but no face.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He loves the fucking the financial domination and the feet.
That's the two kings in one there.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, so yeah, I think he is like a submissive,
like in the bedroom as well. Normally if you're normally,
if you are financially it would be the other way.
I actually think most men are submissive, but they don't
want to admit it.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I don't know, then I look at all those fucking
weirdos that you come across on dating apps with them
and they're saying like that they're looking for a submissive woman.
I think you're just actually a woman beater basically. You
want to.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Well that as well? Then you know what I did
think as well. I'm like most of them are all
talk and then actually comes down to it, you're your
deal one. No, I remember now because they give you
an example. Even want to be like, I've had this
conversation with friends before and I remember whose one fella
and he was full of it, you know, he was like, yeah,
I want to do this, and I want to do
that and all this carry on and I was like, loefully, yeah,
(32:21):
can't wait, so lady, I was like, grant perfect, but.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
He just laid there.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Princess, yeah, fellow prindcess, little may Fane. I was like, here,
I'm the worst to dominate, right possible.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like he'd be like, jump me through this. I'm like,
if that makes you happy, go for it, like hands.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
I doesn't. I don't have it in me to be
fucking brutal, because I'd be thinking, then am I a
bad bastard? Am I a bad bastard that I have
this this person. Are they are they?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Well?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Like, are they well? I don't know. But then there's
so many people like you, you know, all these people
who are like, don't kink shame. People are into what
they're into, and I'm like, okay, well if what they're
into is fucking sending me money where I say, tanks, pig, cheers,
pig grand that'll get me and the.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Girls who drinks their pick crying over well, exactly when
I tell me friends like that, they were like, fuck
off and they were like, where can I get one?
That was I would say ninety five percent of people's reactions.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
The girls are saying that to me as well. They
were hunting. One of the girls straight at her and
her boyfriend fly looking up how to get paid pig.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
From mayor do you know where this this guy was from?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
He's Irish. Have you looked into doing it? Maybe professionally?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
So I haven't looked into they on a refresh because
I don't think I'd have the time to put into it,
because it does, like if you're doing a full whack,
it does take a lot of time. And because even
when I was watching these girls, like the hat can
fuck he can sayous so me. Maroni said to me
the other day something was on the terrible people selling
(34:05):
their town al clippers and I was laughing. Not she
didn't know that I was doing that, Like I was my.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Feet into slices of bread, do you know? Yeah, let's
start making an imprint.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
That by full finder is it me and me friendly?
I had that one day to the crack and have
a look, and those people mash from the datas at
their feet. Now we were crying and I was like, no,
this is what's going on.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's a mad business. But you haven't seen him since
run thing. There's been no like that part of it
fizzled out and the yeah there was no coffee dates
anyway after that, I tell.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You there was no coffee dates now and but yeah,
just mad mad He'll set up all the time.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Jesus.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
The girl there like fuck it, you know, it's like
why not? But sorry, Yeah, I've got a few messages
obviously when I followed certain pages on TikTok, either girls
doing it. I started getting messages down off men because
obviously they're probably looking into who's following him or might
like you know, people you may know or whatever. And
I don't really know how the whole algorithm and TikTok works,
(35:08):
but I got a couple of messages and I actually
screenshot them and sent them to him, and I was like,
what he seems like a time waister, and he was like, yeah,
he's not legit.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
All right, Okay, No he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, because he was like, no, they're that's that's bollocks,
like you know, And because like that, a lot of
them were like, oh, do you want to know? So
a few people have sent me messages saying like, hey, honey,
you know, I'd like to fund your lifestyle, and I'll
tend text them back and be like, hey, sweetheart, yeah,
that's no problem. I only deal with paypigs, so so
that's something you're interested in, let me know. And a
(35:47):
lot of the time they'll come back and they'll say
either they don't they're not too sure what. I'm sure
they know the paypig is, but like they won't kind
of engage and they're just like, oh, I'm looking for
a companion. I'm like, nah, like.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
You know, that's just some gammer.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
That's some of the picture of some American I would add,
you know, usually yeah, but Jesus very exciting anyway, and
you know, hopefully hopefully another one, another legit one finds
you gives you a few bugs.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Because like that, Yeah, he wanted to kind of fizzle
it out. And I was like, look, that's that's what
he liked us now. And but he has said to
me once or twice, ah, like you know, he'd be
like all relappositely hot, like about like doing it again.
Because I actually I actually sent him when you had
it up on your story, I sent it to him
and he wrote back saying interesting, and I was like, yeah,
(36:35):
we were having the chaff. She has one as well,
and he was like pissed off. I was like, yeah, yeah,
now she has one. And then he was like no.
But we were talking about that film Baby Girl, and
I was like, did you watch it? And he was
I can't remember if you'd watched it, and I was
saying it was good. They said like I was like
a few people would say, oh, to be fucked up,
but I was like they're probably just a bit sheltered
(36:55):
or whatever. But we were laughing. But I said it
actually would have been more interested. I think if I
had have been the other way around, and the man
had been a submissive obviously, who is it? That's yeah, yeah, yeah,
so basically, yeah, you should look at it. But basically
(37:18):
she's like the CEO of a company and he comes in.
He's an intern. I think he's an intern, and they
start having this relationship, but she like that. He kind
of tells her what to you, gets on her knees,
all this carry on, which is grand like. But I
thought obviously she was the powerful one, which is normally
a man's say, for example. But I think it would
(37:41):
have been a better plot and more impested.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
There was the other way around.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, and then that the woman was dominating him, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, no, I get you.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I suppose that's what we're used to and maybe they
just wanted to change it up. But I may watch now.
I didn't know that was the fucking plot of that film.
I'll definitely want it. Thanks so much. That was very interesting.
You're the only You're the only dominatrix I've gotten so July.
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